Speaker 1: This is later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly and his writing partner Martin Duggart have done
Speaker 2: it again, and this time they're not killing anybody. Bill,
Speaker 2: You're confronting the presidents. No spin assessments from Washington to Biden.
Speaker 2: I got to believe in all the research you've done
Speaker 2: with your writing partner, in all the Killing series of books,
Speaker 2: you've come across a lot of rabbit holes to go down,
Speaker 2: and this was one of them.
Speaker 3: Well, what we wanted to do, Lee, and thanks for
Speaker 3: having me on a program is give the reader an
Speaker 3: honest appraisal of all forty five men who have held
Speaker 3: the presidency. And we also wanted to humanize them, make
Speaker 3: them real people, because America has a tendency to mythologize
Speaker 3: presidents and public schools don't even teach history anymore. So
Speaker 3: have you go outside and say, hey, hey, what about
Speaker 3: that Chester a Arthur?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that a rapper?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think I know Chester a Arthur. And we do
Speaker 3: it in an entertaining way, the same style we use
Speaker 3: on the Killing books. And we our task is to
Speaker 3: uncover things that even the historians don't know. So there's
Speaker 3: a review on Amazon just popped up by the head
Speaker 3: of a historical society who says, look, I've been doing
Speaker 3: this my whole life, and I didn't know many of
Speaker 3: the things that o'reiley and Dugard came up with in
Speaker 3: confronting the presidents. For example, George Washington's mother didn't like
Speaker 3: him and wrote letters to the Virginia newspaper saying, my son,
Speaker 3: George's starving me to debt. And it drove General Washington,
Speaker 3: who's in the middle of the Revolutionary War at the time, crazy.
Speaker 3: He didn't even go to his mother's funeral. Stuff like
Speaker 3: that is all throughout the book. And then the final
Speaker 3: thing is that I tried to make confronting the presidents
Speaker 3: relevant to today. So there was one president who won
Speaker 3: in a landslide who used the same campaign techniques that
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is using. You know who that guy was.
Speaker 2: I do not. I can't even guess.
Speaker 3: Warren Hardy nineteen twenty. So Harding was not a smart man,
Speaker 3: but he was smart enough to know that he wasn't
Speaker 3: a smart man. Republicans dominated him. The country is fed
Speaker 3: up with eight years of Democrats in Woodrow Wilson. That
Speaker 3: was World War One and they would have elected a
Speaker 3: chimpanze and Warren was the chimp. So Warren basically says
Speaker 3: the republic body, I'm not campaigning. I'm gonna sit here
Speaker 3: and marry in Ohio on my fortune wave the people.
Speaker 3: That's it. And no interviews ever. Who does that remind
Speaker 3: you of? Uh huh, no interviews? Okay. So Harding wins
Speaker 3: in a landslide and then gets into the White House
Speaker 3: and is one of the worst presidents ever, spends his
Speaker 3: time playing cards all night with his corrupt pronies, getting
Speaker 3: drunk and chasing his mistress around the building. That's what
Speaker 3: he did for three years before he died in San
Speaker 3: Francisco under fairly suspicious circumstances. So this is the kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. And I can almost assure you that the
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris campaign has no idea what Laaren Hardy to do,
Speaker 3: but it's almost identical the way they're campaign. They're running
Speaker 3: their campaign.
Speaker 2: Confronting the president's no spin assessments from Washington to Biden.
Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly is with us a bill one of the
Speaker 2: I think more under researched and undercredited presidents for his
Speaker 2: role in American history as James Buchanan. You seldom hear
Speaker 2: or see what he did that directly caused the Civil War.
Speaker 3: The worst president by far. And when Donald Trump gets
Speaker 3: up and says Joe Biden's the worst president, he's wrong.
Speaker 3: Buchanan was, by father worse. Biden was, in my opinion
Speaker 3: based on research, the second worst. Because Biden brought problems
Speaker 3: onto the country. Biden created the open border, he created
Speaker 3: the massive inflation, Not Congress, nobody else, Biden did it.
Speaker 3: And that's very, very angel. Most of the failed presidents
Speaker 3: inherited the problems, like Herbert Hoover the Great Depression, and
Speaker 3: they couldn't solve them. Biden, he came in and he
Speaker 3: caused them. Now, James Buchanan coward number one coward. So
Speaker 3: he gets elected eighteen fifty six and he does absolutely nothing,
Speaker 3: nothing to stop the sow from arming itself, from murdering
Speaker 3: Union officials. I mean, it was outrageous. I have a
Speaker 3: letter in my private collection league from Marry Truman saying
Speaker 3: that Andrew Jackson had been president in eighteen fifty six,
Speaker 3: there would not have been a Civil War. But because
Speaker 3: Buchanan was too afraid to do anything. The South rose
Speaker 3: up in ferocity, and the war was a fate of
Speaker 3: complete When Abraham Lincoln was elected more than a million Americans.
Speaker 3: Guy from wounds and from diseased. So you can't cop Buchanan.
Speaker 3: The guy was a fop f op. What do you
Speaker 3: read about this guy? Unbelievable And you're right, nobody knows
Speaker 3: who he is. Yeah, nobody knows, and that's why the
Speaker 3: book has gotten off for such a fair start.
Speaker 2: Specifically, I was referring to I want to say his
Speaker 2: what they used to call the Address to Congress. It's
Speaker 2: now the State of the Union Address, But in it
Speaker 2: he acknowledges the South's right to exist on its own, which,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, lit the views that was headed to
Speaker 2: the powder keg.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, this guy was irresponsible. Some might call him a trader.
Speaker 3: I think Tyler John Tyler took over when William Henry
Speaker 3: Harrison died. Tyler was a trader. I mean, people go
Speaker 3: what a president of the United States was a trader? Absolutely,
Speaker 3: Tyler served in a Confederate Congress after they booted him
Speaker 3: out of the presidency. But most of these guys in
Speaker 3: the nineteenth century before Lincoln where slavers themselves, they had
Speaker 3: no problem with it. And that's why Abraham Lincoln is
Speaker 3: the best president because he was a very decent, kind
Speaker 3: man and you know, he wanted to work lost.
Speaker 2: It highly highly, highly intelligent.
Speaker 3: Lincoln, and he had so much to deal with his
Speaker 3: dun Ton die, his mother, his wife is a nut.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like no relief. And the deterioration
Speaker 3: of him physically, you see when he took off his
Speaker 3: dinate four years later before he was assassinated. The physical
Speaker 3: deterioration of the man, it's just stunning. And that brings
Speaker 3: us to the Trump shooting or attempted shooting over the weekend.
Speaker 3: Set of be nine assassination attempts on US presidents. I
Speaker 3: write about seven of them in confronting the presidents, because
Speaker 3: obviously the Trump situation was after the book was published,
Speaker 3: and all of them have one thing in common. All
Speaker 3: of the assassins were mentally ill people. And you'll find
Speaker 3: that the guy in Butler, Pennsylvania who's dead, and the
Speaker 3: guy in Florida who'll never see the light of day again,
Speaker 3: are mentally ill as well. And that's a problem here.
Speaker 3: So everybody else tres a Matho and it and certainly
Speaker 3: the hateful rhetoric on both sides in this campaign does
Speaker 3: not help the level of violence that we have in
Speaker 3: our country. But it's mentally ill people who are doing this,
Speaker 3: and I don't know any society you can protect people
Speaker 3: against those kinds.
Speaker 2: Of folks confronting the presidents no spin assessments from Washington
Speaker 2: to Biden and Bill O'Reilly along with his writing partner
Speaker 2: Martin de guard, has the presidency changed that much? I
Speaker 2: mean it sounds to me like we have seen so
Speaker 2: many parallels throughout history. It's just a different of maybe
Speaker 2: the power the press has had over the years, or
Speaker 2: the amount of money spent to elect a president, but
Speaker 2: a lot of it's still the same the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's always been contentious. I
Speaker 3: mean John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. The only president got
Speaker 3: to pass was Washington because Washington had very very few critics,
Speaker 3: you know, population a doored him. But once he left,
Speaker 3: and then Adams ran against Jefferson, then of vitriol came in.
Speaker 3: But now it's social media and irresponsible corporate media, which
Speaker 3: is a big theme of bond on Bill O'Reilly dot com,
Speaker 3: on my note's been news broadcasts. You know, they heightened us.
Speaker 3: They promote this for their own reasons. They want to
Speaker 3: make money, and hatred does make money. So it's worse
Speaker 3: now it's ever been except for the Civil War. So
Speaker 3: the political hatred in the USA is worse today ever before,
Speaker 3: other than the war between the Sticks.
Speaker 2: Confronting the presidents. No spin assessments from Washington to Biden
Speaker 2: by Bill. O'Reilly, Bill, you've done it again. I only
Speaker 2: have begun the book, but I'm looking forward to it
Speaker 2: cover to cover, and thank you for joining us.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you adding me in. I'll best everybody in OKLAHOLM.
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