WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:03.600 Welcome, dear listener, and thanks for joining us. 2 00:00:04.960 --> 00:00:07.559 And I'm Stephen and this is a podcast all about 3 00:00:07.559 --> 00:00:10.279 the weird and wonderful world of the Dark comedy anthology 4 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:12.119 series Inside number nine. 5 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:14.919 On each episode, we'll be diving into another one of 6 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:18.719 Steve Pemberton and Reese Shearsmith's twisted tales, putting it under 7 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:21.920 a lens and examining it within an inch of its life. 8 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:25.120 So make yourself comfortable, grab a cup of tea, and 9 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:33.039 join us for the ninth degree. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome back. 10 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:34.280 How are you doing? 11 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:36.640 I am okay, how are you doing? 12 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:41.280 I'm not bad long January mm, stretching out forever. But 13 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:43.240 I've got holidays look forward to you, So I'm excited. 14 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:44.079 That is good. 15 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:45.520 I might do this every year. 16 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:48.679 I've got the end of my job to look forward to. 17 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:50.560 Oh, of course, how long you've got a couple of 18 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:51.159 weeks left. 19 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:52.960 Now, is it? Yeah? Just over two weeks? 20 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:53.439 Nice? 21 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:57.520 Yeah, it can't come soon enough. If any of my 22 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.479 colleagues are listening to this, Love you really was purely 23 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:01.719 for the purposes of entertainment. 24 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:07.400 Yes, exaggerate for comedic effects. Yes, it's that thing that 25 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.239 when you when you've finished and you're working your notice 26 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:11.079 and it's just like I'm mentally. 27 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:13.359 Checked out of this. Oh absolutely, yeah, kind of hurry 28 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:15.239 up already, yeah, definitely. 29 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:20.319 Well, we are back for episode three of series five 30 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:21.959 Loves Great Adventure. 31 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:24.640 Whoop whoop, whoop whoop. 32 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:28.560 But before we get into that, there's the small matter 33 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:29.719 of the hair from last week. 34 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:36.120 Yes, it was Nine Lives cat. Yeah, there's a cat 35 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:37.400 that made me feel bad. I don't know what that 36 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:39.840 says about me. I mean, they are supposed to have 37 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:45.680 nine lives cats, aren't they. Yeah, convoluted. Sorry, then I'll 38 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:46.319 just get it in. 39 00:01:46.359 --> 00:01:48.640 But we all learned something. 40 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:49.439 It was worth it. 41 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.400 Yeah, so have a lookout for the one this week. 42 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:57.439 I will refer as now to instant number nine fandom 43 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:00.560 wiki for the plot of this episode, which is Trevor 44 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:02.840 and Juliet always want to make Christmas really special for 45 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:05.280 their family, but this year, with money so tight, things 46 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.359 aren't going to be easy. As each door of the 47 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.680 advent calendar opens, everyone will have to do their bit 48 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:10.639 to make Christmas happen. 49 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.879 You sounded so enthusiastic reading I'm really trying. 50 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:20.879 I don't know if I can put it off for 51 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.719 much longer. But this is not my favorite episode. I'm sorry. 52 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:26.000 Yeah, I could tell I'm really. 53 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:29.039 Worried about this week. I apologize if this is your favorite. 54 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:31.680 Yeah. So we were discussing earlier and I said that 55 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.520 it was funny because when we first started this, I 56 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:36.280 was saying, how I don't think it's a bad episode 57 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:38.840 of this show, and you were like, well, there might 58 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:40.759 be one flashback here. 59 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:44.199 Yeah, yeah, there's one or two. And I wouldn't say 60 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.080 it's bad exactly, It's just not my thing. 61 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:48.960 Yeah, I get that. I get that. 62 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:52.759 It just doesn't feel very inside number ninety. To me. No, 63 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.000 it feels like it's a very good episode of a 64 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:55.680 different program. 65 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:57.199 That's exactly what I was going to say. I was 66 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:58.800 going to say, I think as a piece of TV, 67 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:03.520 it's very good. It just feels very jarring as an 68 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:04.719 episode of in So number nine. 69 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:05.680 Yeah. 70 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.080 I mean, if you think about what I obviously you 71 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:10.479 know in So Numb nine does many different things. Yes, 72 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:14.240 but there is a core of I mean, what would 73 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.159 you say that core is that makes something in Insant 74 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:17.639 number nine episode. 75 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:22.280 The dark comedy. Yeah, it doesn't have to always have 76 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:23.800 these things, but it's got to have at least one 77 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:26.039 of them, like, it's got to have either some dark comedy, 78 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:30.240 it's got to have some big revelation flash twist of 79 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:36.000 some description, yeah, and or something supernatural or whatever, like 80 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:37.800 there's got to be one of them things in there. 81 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:39.879 Yeah, I feel I get that, and I don't really. 82 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:42.520 Think this has any of them. No, Like it has 83 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:46.120 the great character work, yeah, but to me that's sort 84 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:47.520 of always implied. 85 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:50.360 Yes, that always has to be there. You wouldn't expect 86 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:50.879 anything less. 87 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.719 Yeah, but equally we don't really have enough time with 88 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:55.560 any of the characters to really get to know them 89 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:56.039 all that well. 90 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.919 No, it's very slice of life, yeah, a little bit 91 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.639 yet tiny little vignettes. So yeah, I think Into Number 92 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:07.240 nine is a show where they could be experimental and 93 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:09.479 try different things, and I think this is obviously one 94 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.680 of those things. They tried something completely different, which you know, 95 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:13.639 I applaud them for that. 96 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:17.199 And they're halfway through the run. Obviously they wouldn't know 97 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:19.759 at the time. But so like, GE's about the time 98 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:22.839 when you do start doing things a bit differently, and yeah, 99 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:24.399 you do come up with other things to do. 100 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:27.439 I think, you know, some would say the twist is 101 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:30.040 that there isn't one there isn't really I mean, you know, 102 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.000 there is kind of yeah, but very hidden. Yeah, not 103 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:35.720 to the same degree of the usual episodes. 104 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:37.040 Yeah. 105 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:40.079 But having said that, starting on a fairly negative note, 106 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.800 like I think I like it more than you, right, Okay, 107 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.199 I wouldn't say I love it. Yeah, And again when 108 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:46.519 we come to rating it at the end, it's going 109 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:48.600 to be hard whether to rate it for what it 110 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:52.800 is or as an into number nine episode, yeah, because 111 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:54.439 I don't want to be too harsh. But at the 112 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:57.639 same time, you know, but I think for what it is, 113 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.279 it's actually pretty good and quite enjoy watching it. I 114 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.000 just because you've got the inside number nine title sequence, Yeah, 115 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:07.079 you expect it's going to be a certain thing and 116 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:07.920 it's kind of not. 117 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:10.839 Yeah, because I remember watching this when it came out 118 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:12.720 like there and then I was like, watched it that 119 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:14.759 Tuesday night when it first aired, thinking oh, I'm getting 120 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.879 another exciting thing of a thing I love, and then 121 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:21.959 you're expecting something big to happen and then nothing does. Yeah, 122 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:25.040 and it kind of falls really flat for me personally. 123 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:26.279 Yeah, I get that. 124 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.439 I get that, Like when if you can watch it 125 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.319 knowing that there's not going to be any big twist 126 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:32.360 to it. Then it's you can sort of enjoy it 127 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:33.360 for what it is a lot better. 128 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:37.360 Yeah. Oh well, I was going to ask if you 129 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:39.879 because obviously I presume you watched it once when it 130 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.399 aired and then you've not revisited it since then. 131 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:43.519 I think I have now. 132 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.240 Yeah, So was it was it as bad as you 133 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.959 thought it was going to be or was it better slightly. 134 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.439 Or probably it was probably slightly better. Yeah, And I 135 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:55.000 knew that I wasn't waiting for something big to happen, 136 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.639 so I didn't have that hanging over me the whole time. Yeah, 137 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:00.839 like I didn't. It didn't have anything to live up to. 138 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:03.839 I still didn't massively enjoy it. 139 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:07.480 No, I get that. But yeah, if you know what 140 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:10.920 the BBC's play for today was right where they used 141 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:12.639 to do I think it was in the seventies, there'd 142 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.639 be one off little dramas. And it's also a bit 143 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.000 like have you ever seen Moving On? No, So that's 144 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.120 another like anthology. Each one's an individual drama. Jimmy McGovern 145 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:25.199 wrote them, I think, yeah, And I used to watch 146 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.680 those and it really reminded me of that that kind 147 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:28.000 of thing. 148 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:30.279 Yeah, I'm not familiar. 149 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:32.639 If you didn't like this, I guess I wouldn't recommend it, 150 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:38.160 but yeah. 151 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:37.120 I've seen them say that they wanted it to be 152 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:40.040 a bit sort of ken Loach's style. Yes, and I've 153 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:41.399 not seen any of his stuff, but I've seen like 154 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:43.759 bits and pieces and it I get that. I understand 155 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:44.240 what they mean. 156 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:46.800 Well, I mean it's all set. It's literally all set 157 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:49.600 in that kitchen, yeah, which I don't think I twigged 158 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:52.160 until like a second or third watch. I think I 159 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:53.560 kind of assumed in the back of my head there 160 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.279 must be it must have been scenes in other rooms. 161 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.879 But yeah, it's literally all in that one kitchen. 162 00:06:58.040 --> 00:06:58.319 Yeah. 163 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:02.120 So it's I mean it's literally kitchen seeing. Yeah, drama, yeah, 164 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:03.959 And I just I think there's to be fair. I 165 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.600 think there's lots to like about this. I think the 166 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:07.839 fact the fact that they do the they tell it 167 00:07:07.879 --> 00:07:11.079 through these tiny little vignettes of one per day across 168 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.519 the advent calendar is a great idea. 169 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:16.199 Oh I like that as a concept. I just there 170 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.240 were so many things that I was expecting to happen 171 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:21.120 that didn't Like, I feel like this is setting up something, Oh, 172 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:23.360 this is going to happen that just never does. Yes, 173 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:25.720 a lot of it was improvised as well. 174 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:27.839 I believe it was. Yeah, which I was going to say, 175 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:29.879 is that's another thing I kind of really like about 176 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:32.879 this because the tone that that brings, Like when the 177 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.839 actors are able to just kind of use their own 178 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:38.720 words and not tied to the script, it really adds 179 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:42.000 to that. This is probably the most naturalistic episode true 180 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:42.600 that we've got. 181 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:45.399 Maybe that's why it feels so jarring to me because 182 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:46.519 it doesn't feel scripted. 183 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.680 It doesn't feel like they're because they're so sort of 184 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:51.199 crafted normally, aren't. 185 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:52.839 They Every word matters. 186 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:56.319 And yeah, obviously they've placed the story in sequence and 187 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:58.079 they knew what each scene had to do. 188 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:00.920 Yeah, but how it got there was to them. 189 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.279 Yeah, I mean what, I'd be interested because I know 190 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.519 you can buy the scripts for these. I'd be really 191 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:07.360 interested to see the script for this one and see 192 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:09.879 how much it differs from what actually happened. 193 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.360 Whether it is just a lot of stage directions of. 194 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.160 Well, Steve did say that they there was dialogue written 195 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:19.519 for every scene, right, but they didn't necessarily stick to it. 196 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.920 So yeah, it would be would be interesting to see that. Yeah, 197 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.120 but I do I do love the naturalistic feel of it, 198 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.319 Like the I think this is very well acted. 199 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:29.920 Oh, it's brilliantly acted. 200 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:32.480 All the cast are so good. Yeah, and they really 201 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:35.000 feel like a family. And apparently all the cast really 202 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:38.159 bonded and like they had a big meal together at 203 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:40.440 the beginning and we're sort of opening up to each 204 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:44.759 other about stuff, and yeah, sounds really like an intense experience. 205 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.000 Yeah, that's how you get the best out of it. Yeah, 206 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:49.360 out of the family sort of thing. 207 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:50.480 Yeah. 208 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.480 Yeah, I think they did a good job of that, definitely. 209 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.799 And the casting is brilliant. M I buy all of 210 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:59.080 them and even even the little kids very good. 211 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:02.399 I think it's great, which is really tough to do, Yeah. 212 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.120 Because I don't know how old he is, but he's 213 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:07.799 only young. Yeah, And I guess the improvising thing works 214 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.799 well there because he can just be like they just 215 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.399 have to tell you, I'll go and make your breakfast 216 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:13.120 or whatever. 217 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:16.120 And having a child in the scene as well, who's 218 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:19.720 improvising with you must make it kind of easier to 219 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.759 improvise along with as well that because he's not following 220 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.159 a script, So yeah, you've got to just respond to 221 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:25.759 what he's saying. 222 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:27.840 And yeah, you very much have to listen to him 223 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:31.759 rather than what's written. Yeah, and you're trying to follow. Yeah, definitely. 224 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:34.679 I do think there's a lot to commend this on 225 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:38.440 just a question of how much it feels like it 226 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:39.639 fits as part of the series. 227 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:43.159 But yeah, it's a bit like saying that you had, 228 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.639 you know, a murder mystery, like a Poiro or whatever, 229 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.919 and then one episode it's just randomly got vampires in it. 230 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.639 Even if it was really well done, it would just 231 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:53.879 be like, why are they here? 232 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.840 That's such a great comparison what is going on? Yeah? Yeah, 233 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.519 that really explains how you feel. 234 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.759 I think like, no matter how well you did it 235 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.120 and how many of the tropes you carried over from 236 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.120 Buiro and all that kind of stuff, like, yeah, it's 237 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.559 still wondering why we've done this. 238 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:15.639 This is brilliant, but why have you done it? Yeah? Yeah, 239 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:18.440 it's like they could have done this as a separate project. 240 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:19.799 Yeah, exactly exactly. 241 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:25.000 Apparently Debbie Rush, who played Julia, when they finished, she 242 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:26.360 was like, Oh, I wish we could do more of this. 243 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:29.360 I wish we could do a whole series of this. Ah. 244 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:31.919 Yeah, it feels like a series. 245 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:32.679 It does. 246 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:34.840 It's like that odd episode that you get in in 247 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:37.360 a program where it's clearly a backdoor pilot for a 248 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:41.279 spin off. Like I can almost see this as being 249 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.559 like a separate spinoff where they do little segments of 250 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:47.399 a month or whatever in this family. 251 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:52.799 But yeah, should we kind of go through interesting bits? 252 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.840 My notes are just what happens every day. Yeah, they 253 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:57.759 were on math lesson. 254 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.080 Yeah. Now I find this interesting as someone who works 255 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:04.399 in education. Hmmm, I'll be honest, I'd never heard of 256 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:05.360 traffic light method. 257 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.120 Well, how do you have a method of adding three 258 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:08.960 on to seven or whatever it was. I don't really 259 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:10.720 feel like there's a lot of method involved. 260 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.120 I think what he's doing because I did google traffic 261 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:14.840 light methods. I was like, is that a real thing? 262 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:19.440 And it is. It's a method for multiplication, right, because 263 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:23.039 at that age they don't do the column method, right, 264 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:26.039 but they do when they're slightly older. Okay, but I've 265 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:27.759 never heard of traffic light method. We do other things 266 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:28.360 at my school. 267 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:30.440 Part of me wonders, do they just make up new 268 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:32.919 methods of doing things so that the adults can't help 269 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.120 the children, so the children have to do it themselves. 270 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:37.639 That's a very cynical way of looking at it. 271 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.559 Or is it more positively that they go home than 272 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.279 their parents teach them in other methods, So they have 273 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:45.720 two methods of doing a thing and they only have 274 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:47.039 to teach them one of them. No. 275 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:50.120 I think it's because people are constantly reinventing the wheel 276 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:51.480 and thinking, you know, this is this is a better 277 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:52.639 way of helping them understand it. 278 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.759 We've been teaching math since like god knows what. Yeah, 279 00:11:57.799 --> 00:12:00.120 but yeah, in the last ten years, it has changed. 280 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.200 Yeah, it has, it does. I liked how Trevor said 281 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.279 about the unit's column, because that's what we called it 282 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:09.279 in my day, but these days it's we say the ones, 283 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:09.759 the ones. 284 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.799 Oh okay, I've always thought it felt weird to say, 285 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:14.120 but yeah, we always called it units. 286 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:17.320 Yeah, but yeah, I love that. I love the dynamic 287 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:20.000 of you know, he's such a like cheeky grandpa. Hmmm, 288 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:23.679 although you don't know he's the grandpa. At first, I think, true, yeah, 289 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:26.440 he's potentially, you think he could be the dad. Maybe 290 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:30.080 he's and he's a bit old, but it's it's deliberately vague, yes, 291 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.200 And then when they're shouting for mire and you think 292 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:34.200 maybe their siblings. 293 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.000 Yeah, I assumed first time it sort. 294 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:37.840 Of comes out gradually. 295 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.519 Yeah. I also like that they all like obviously have 296 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:44.080 the little fallouts occasionally, but they do actually genuinely really 297 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:45.440 like each other and love each other. 298 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:45.759 They do. 299 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.720 Yeah, it is a good family, nice bond, which is 300 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:52.120 nice to see every now and then, Like most families 301 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:55.480 see on TV all hate each other or plotting in 302 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:56.240 some way, shape or. 303 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.600 Form exactly, this is what I think, Like, it's I 304 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:01.960 think this episode is all about family really, It's about 305 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.000 like what you would do for your family in the 306 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:09.600 extreme circumstances. Yeah, and like also the fact that we're 307 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:12.399 seeing it over the span of best part of a month, 308 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.759 and also it's only tiny little snapshots. Each day you 309 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:18.679 might see these little disagreements and spats, but then the 310 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.559 next day you might see them having a really touching, 311 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:21.440 lovely moment together. 312 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:22.919 Yeah. 313 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:24.440 And that's just realistic, isn't it. 314 00:13:25.159 --> 00:13:27.720 Yeah, they do feel very rounded people. 315 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:32.039 Yeah, definitely. So Mia has her eye on a prom dress. 316 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.559 We'll skip over making breakfast. That was a fun day. 317 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.320 What was that? 318 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.360 That was day two? MIA's dress is day three? 319 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:46.639 All right, Sorry, we're doing every day. Nothing happened in 320 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:50.240 day No, not really, but that's what that was. When 321 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:55.600 we first realized that mir exists. Yeah. Yeah, so our 322 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:58.279 first real introduction to me is her asking for this 323 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:00.519 dress in this I mean, how old we think? If 324 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:02.440 she's prom she must be like year eleven, so. 325 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:06.159 You'd think so like sixteen Spanish? I can. I really 326 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:07.759 struggle to age her. I have no idea. 327 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:09.600 By the way, do you know who she is? 328 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:12.919 Gabby French? My screens telling me I'll. 329 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.279 Be friends who that is? Recognize her from anywhere? 330 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.960 I'm guessing I should. Yes, I assume I'm going to 331 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:21.360 assume she's in Doto now, but I don't know where. Oh, okay, 332 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:24.559 she wasn't in the play? Was she? 333 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:25.159 Yeah? 334 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:26.320 Was she? 335 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:29.480 She's Abby the usher? Was she? Yeah? 336 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:30.360 That's so weird. 337 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:31.919 I think she was in the West End one and 338 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:32.360 the tour. 339 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:35.080 Oh yeah, I can. It suddenly came to me that 340 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:36.159 it's like, yeah, she looks fake. 341 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.720 Yes, yeah. And we didn't mention it at the time 342 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.200 because I only found out after we'd recorded. But the 343 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.120 other young lady in the play, the one who played 344 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:47.000 the dope blond actress, Yeah, I think she was the 345 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:52.919 one who was Reese's girlfriend in Yeah really yeah, So 346 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:54.360 keeping it in the family. 347 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:56.679 If you know they're good and reliable. 348 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:04.080 Yeah, but yeah, she's very good, especially because she's Welsh. Yes, 349 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.840 and she's doing a fantastic accent and improving in it. 350 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:10.240 Yeah, improving a different accent must be really tough. 351 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:12.279 Yeah, you know, I to. 352 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:15.720 Consider how certain noise, certain vowel sounds work, or whatever 353 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:17.000 in that particular word. 354 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:19.600 Say that. I do that with my kids at work, 355 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:21.879 Like when I want to get their attention, I just 356 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:23.639 do a different accent and just start teaching in a 357 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:29.039 different accent. Fair enough, But then I don't know if 358 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:33.879 it's good enough to be on TV. So true? Whereabouts 359 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:35.679 up north is this set? Do you think? 360 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:40.879 I don't know. I am terrible with accents unless they're 361 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:43.559 very obvious ones. I'm very I'm terrible. I'm going to 362 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:46.519 guess some way over Leeds Way, but only really based 363 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.960 on that that's where sort of Steve's from, so I assumed. 364 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:52.320 I assume it'd be somewhere near where he grew up. 365 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.360 Mm hmm, because it feels sort of so family focused 366 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:57.559 that I guessed he would do that, but I don't know. 367 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.720 Again, listening to the podcast, they were saying that Debbie Rush, 368 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:03.639 she played the mum, was so northern herself, like she 369 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:06.360 had these phrases she kept coming out with that even 370 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:10.240 Steve had never heard used something like don't just stand 371 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:14.159 there like Piffy never heard. No, No, I've never heard that. 372 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.679 And he goes it must have been a very specific 373 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.639 area up north. Yeah, and Reese goes, yeah, someone's house. 374 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:26.679 But Granded has loads of those, like their equivalent is 375 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.399 that's done there? Like Bolco's monument. There's a statue of 376 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.279 a man called Bolco in Middlesbrough who doesn't obviously move 377 00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:38.279 because he's a statue. And a lot more pointless what 378 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.399 like his favorite is oh, I come before you stand 379 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:42.919 behind you to tell you something I known out about. 380 00:16:43.159 --> 00:16:45.879 I think that's a that's nick from somewhere I can't wear. 381 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:48.759 But atop a hill there stands a mill. If it 382 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:51.200 ain't gone tomorrow, it'll be there still. Oh my god, 383 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:52.559 I'm like, great, useful, Granded. 384 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.480 Thanks just reminded me of the you know, the Scottish 385 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:58.840 hotel here in little Britain. He just stams out with 386 00:16:58.879 --> 00:16:59.960 these random little riddles. 387 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:02.679 I've not seen that. I've never watched a lot of Britain. 388 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:07.640 Oh okay, but I believe you. Yeah, AnyWho, we were 389 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:09.920 on originally, we're on the prom dress, and I just 390 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.599 you know, she's so sort of eager to have it. 391 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.880 And it's like, because obviously we find out soon that money's. 392 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:17.079 Tight, money's very tight. 393 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.720 Yeah, and like she's at that age I guess where 394 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:23.000 she's coming to understand how that stuff works. 395 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:25.039 Food doesn't just appear. 396 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.680 Yeah. I like how the mum says it's forty pounds 397 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:29.559 and she's like, it's not forty pounds, it's thirty eight 398 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:37.160 ninety nine. Yeah. Yeah, Again, there's a nice arc with 399 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.720 that throughout the episode, which we'll cover, I'm sure as 400 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:40.160 we get to it. 401 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.599