Speaker 1: So I've got a list of It's maybe curious after
Speaker 1: talking to Jeff Johnson last segment of the best high
Speaker 1: school basketball players from the state of Utah historically and
Speaker 1: how many of them went to the NBA.
Speaker 2: It is a short list.
Speaker 1: So we were talking about the dynamic of how Alex
Speaker 1: Jensen goes about the process of building this roster for
Speaker 1: the University of Utah. We'll get to this in a
Speaker 1: little bit, but let's welcome to our friend Sarah Todd
Speaker 1: from the des Red News, the two time Utah Sports
Speaker 1: Rider of the Year.
Speaker 2: On a Monday, Sarah, Happy Monday. How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm good? Justin Will practice today and so I've just
Speaker 3: been really lazy and continue to count down the hours
Speaker 3: and days until this season is over.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I tell you what I always feel. You know,
Speaker 1: you feel for a lot of people during the rebuild.
Speaker 1: You feel for the fans, you feel for a lot
Speaker 1: of the team employees.
Speaker 2: I feel really bad for Will Hardy.
Speaker 1: I think is a great coach, and I really hope
Speaker 1: before his contract is up we get to see him
Speaker 1: coach a team with decent NBA players. But it's gotta
Speaker 1: be wearing on the beat, right, Like you Andy TJ,
Speaker 1: whoever else is on the beat, I always lose track.
Speaker 1: But what what what's it like for somebody who's do
Speaker 1: you cover the Warriors? I mean, you're a beat writer
Speaker 1: for a rebuilding team.
Speaker 2: What's that like?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I think I I think I'm experiencing
Speaker 3: the same fatigue that the fans are. I think I
Speaker 3: do feel bad for the players because I feel like
Speaker 3: they have to be feeling what I'm feeling at such
Speaker 3: an exponential level, but also are constantly being asked by
Speaker 3: the coaching staff and like their competitive souls to still
Speaker 3: care every day. And I'm like sometimes, you know, I
Speaker 3: go into the arena to this like last stretch of
Speaker 3: the season, and I'm like, ugh, they're not gonna try.
Speaker 3: Why why do I need to try? Like I feel
Speaker 3: like throwing in the towel. But and there are a
Speaker 3: lot of times where I'm writing stories and I'm like, God,
Speaker 3: can I really write five more stories about how Isaiah
Speaker 3: Collier passes the ball? But can't choose, Like is that
Speaker 3: really what I'm writing today? Well? Yeah, it just sometimes
Speaker 3: feels like going through the motions. But I try to
Speaker 3: give myself a pep talk on game days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, ultimately, our jobs rule, so we will not complain.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that we are, but you know,
Speaker 1: I was down to my brother's house for dinner last
Speaker 1: week and he said, how many Jazz games have you
Speaker 1: been to this year? And I said, I think it's
Speaker 1: been like five or six. And the Celtics were going
Speaker 1: to roll into town. This is when before Boston came
Speaker 1: into town. He said, well, are you gonna go see
Speaker 1: the Celtics And I said, I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: like no, and I live. I can get to the
Speaker 1: arena in less than ten minutes with no traffic. I
Speaker 1: have a media credential, I could get a free meal.
Speaker 1: And it's just like hard and it's not part of
Speaker 1: my job, so I don't need to be there anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean, for seven years, I did preaff and post
Speaker 1: so I was there for every game, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: part of me not going as much as like, you know,
Speaker 1: for one hundred nights a year, I left that arena
Speaker 1: after midnight and I'm just not like into it anymore.
Speaker 2: But it is it is tough to like, certainly.
Speaker 1: If it's not part of your job, even if you
Speaker 1: can go for free, it's just it's tough to motivate
Speaker 1: yourself to go when there's just not a lot of
Speaker 1: seriousness on the other side about winning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, And like you said, I'm I'm never
Speaker 3: gonna like complain about the job, right, Like I get
Speaker 3: paid to watch basketball, so like I know that my
Speaker 3: life is good. So that is not what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: At all, but.
Speaker 3: It's my job to write about it. And so you know,
Speaker 3: we've got what ten eleven games left this season, and
Speaker 3: at this point, like, I don't think that there's like
Speaker 3: any juice that I'm gonna squeeze out of this team
Speaker 3: that the fans don't know about, the watchers don't know about.
Speaker 3: Like I don't think that there's anything that I'm gonna
Speaker 3: illuminate that like people don't know because truly, the story
Speaker 3: right now is like what lottery pick or the Jat's
Speaker 3: gonna get. And so I think that everyone fans me,
Speaker 3: including like I'm counting down the days so I can
Speaker 3: get to the combine in Chicago and the lottery drawing night.
Speaker 2: When is that, by the way, is that the first
Speaker 2: week of May.
Speaker 3: It's I think it's May twelfth is lottery night. So
Speaker 3: and then the combine follows that.
Speaker 1: So I do have to say thank you. And you
Speaker 1: probably don't know why, but when you or Andy or
Speaker 1: whoever writes a really compelling piece, it gives me topics
Speaker 1: and content on the show, because if we're honest to
Speaker 1: your earlier point, like hey, Kyle Philipowski's kind of like
Speaker 1: Kelly olynnok, like hey Isaiah call your can pass, but
Speaker 1: not you like how many how many times can we
Speaker 1: regurgitate the same old stuff and try to make it
Speaker 1: interesting for listeners? That and we have a very smart
Speaker 1: basketball fan based Jazz fans are smart. We've got high
Speaker 1: level basketball in this market for forty plus years. You
Speaker 1: can't fool them. But when you wrote the piece on
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just kind of reduce it down to, hey,
Speaker 1: this has been a tear down, and the rebuilt starts
Speaker 1: right now. I want to be clear, I am not
Speaker 1: knocking on you at all. I'm just knocking on that
Speaker 1: premise that, of course, is coming from the front office.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit silly, but I've been
Speaker 1: able to ask, like all my NBA guests directly crediting
Speaker 1: your piece about this whole idea that hey, guess what, fans,
Speaker 1: we have not been rebuilding. We have been tearing down
Speaker 1: and we're actually starting the rebuild. Now it's revisionist history.
Speaker 1: I don't buy it at all, but kind of take
Speaker 1: us into the background of this information and explain kind
Speaker 1: of this idea to a lot of fans who read
Speaker 1: your piece.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know. The point of the piece
Speaker 3: was like I'm being honest with the fans about like
Speaker 3: what could be coming up over the next couple of years,
Speaker 3: and like kind of letting people know that, you know,
Speaker 3: pie in the sky, like what if the Jazz get
Speaker 3: Cooper flag and everything feels like puppies and rainbows in June,
Speaker 3: Is that mean that the Jazz are about to be good? Like, No,
Speaker 3: that's actually like one of the first big pieces of
Speaker 3: the rebuild, Like the Jazz have this point, not gotten
Speaker 3: acquired created any of like the really big foundational pieces
Speaker 3: of what like the next era of Jazz basketball is
Speaker 3: going to be. And so like that's what they're still
Speaker 3: searching for. Lowry market In looks like a great piece
Speaker 3: to have and like could be a core piece of
Speaker 3: a team moving forward, but like, we don't even know
Speaker 3: if he's going to be a core piece of the
Speaker 3: team moving forward. We don't know what his future is
Speaker 3: going to hold. Walker Kessler looks like a very good
Speaker 3: young player. We also don't know if that's going to
Speaker 3: be here in three five years. Like, we just don't
Speaker 3: know at this point. And until the Jazz gets someone
Speaker 3: where it's very clear like this is the franchise player,
Speaker 3: this is the player that we're going to build everything around,
Speaker 3: then there is nothing to build, right And so that
Speaker 3: that's kind of the impetus on writing the story and yeah,
Speaker 3: like getting to that, you know, talking to executives around
Speaker 3: the league, talking to executives within the Jazz, talking to
Speaker 3: coaching staff, talking to players, like it doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: any of them feel like they're on necessarily the rise
Speaker 3: right now, but that they're getting ready to be on
Speaker 3: the rise. And so that that's kind of the lens
Speaker 3: through all of it is like, Yeah, they've been working
Speaker 3: towards what could happen this summer and then even next
Speaker 3: summer during two of like the most highly touted drafts
Speaker 3: of the last few years, and that's where they're hoping
Speaker 3: to find foundational pieces that can really take the Jazz
Speaker 3: into the next era.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this just reeks out of a Hey, we
Speaker 1: didn't do this the right way, because when you move
Speaker 1: on from your two stars and your coach walks away
Speaker 1: and your general manager walks away, call me old fashioned Sarah,
Speaker 1: that indicates you're starting a rebuild. And yes, a rebuild
Speaker 1: begins after you tear it down, but there's nothing more
Speaker 1: you know, indicative of a, hey, we're tearing this down,
Speaker 1: then moving on from two all stars that are in
Speaker 1: their prime and having your coach walk away and having
Speaker 1: your general manager walk away, doesn't that indicate that, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: we've we've started this process and now we've got to
Speaker 1: build it back up.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's my takeaway.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Like you know, the sort of reporter one
Speaker 3: oh one version of the article that like we're talking
Speaker 3: about from this right, that's just like, hey, these are
Speaker 3: the facts. This is how the teardown happened, and this
Speaker 3: is how fans can expect for the rebuild to go
Speaker 3: for the next few years. Now. The Sarah Todd column
Speaker 3: version of that is like, yeah, they messed up. They
Speaker 3: didn't get rid of Mike Conley fast enough. They had
Speaker 3: Kelly o Linnok on the team with Lowry Market and
Speaker 3: a Walker Castler, and that looked too good for too long.
Speaker 3: They should have been selling off parts faster than that.
Speaker 3: It's not like they didn't know that Mike Conley was
Speaker 3: good at basketball. Like it could have been worse, sooner
Speaker 3: for the better, right, Like not tanking to the absolute
Speaker 3: bottom to try during a Victor Wimbin Yama year was
Speaker 3: probably a failure. And so like, yeah, the column and
Speaker 3: Sarah tat opinion version of that is like the teardown
Speaker 3: took too long, and instead of trying to have one
Speaker 3: of the foundational pieces now and tanking really hard over
Speaker 3: the last couple three years rather than just last, the
Speaker 3: last year would have looked really good in terms of
Speaker 3: kind of the the in house assets you could have
Speaker 3: gotten through the draft, and that's just not where we
Speaker 3: are and it's not what happened.
Speaker 1: Let me kick the tires with you on this, because
Speaker 1: to your point about some of the good players, you know,
Speaker 1: like Lowry All starred two years ago, I was ryd people.
Speaker 1: He played the first portion of that season with Mike.
Speaker 1: You know, he had grown ups with him, and that's
Speaker 1: why he looked the way he looked then. Juck's opposed
Speaker 1: to the way he looks now. He's playing with kids.
Speaker 1: He's playing with children's It's completely understandable that Lowry has
Speaker 1: not been the same place he was two years ago,
Speaker 1: and I don't think any of it's his fault. But
Speaker 1: over the course of their semi competitive Conley olynic As
Speaker 1: you outlined some good NBA vets, I heard rumors. We
Speaker 1: all heard the Drew Holliday rumor. I mean, hell, Bobby
Speaker 1: Marks came on this radio show and said the Jazz
Speaker 1: had a deal in place for Drew Holliday, that Portland liked,
Speaker 1: Drew just wanted to play in Boston, which you understand
Speaker 1: because now he's an NBA champion.
Speaker 2: It might be again this year.
Speaker 1: I know that Ryan Smith has spoken publicly about the
Speaker 1: fact that he thought they had a deal for Christaps
Speaker 1: Porzingis from Dallas. There are other rumors that throughout the
Speaker 1: course of when they were just kind of semi competitive,
Speaker 1: they were making in roads to exhibide this growth with
Speaker 1: some very good players. Any insight as to whether or
Speaker 1: not they were close at all with any of those deals.
Speaker 3: I mean close is that's an interesting word, an operative word, right,
Speaker 3: like like sure, I think there were deals on the
Speaker 3: table that the Jazz could have said yes, or no
Speaker 3: to and then some of those deals they said no
Speaker 3: to them because they didn't like the offer that was
Speaker 3: on the table, and so like, I think that they
Speaker 3: were close and that if if the Jazz or the
Speaker 3: other teams involved would have said yes, that something would
Speaker 3: have happened. But it's I mean, that can be a
Speaker 3: little bit revision as history too, and then we could
Speaker 3: go down the road of like with Drew Holliday have
Speaker 3: actually been good for this team. I mean, like you're
Speaker 3: I think that part of the problem is when we're
Speaker 3: looking at like what all of all of possibilities and
Speaker 3: what could have been, Like the Jazz had uh put
Speaker 3: feelers out trying to go after mckail Bridges, the Jazz
Speaker 3: had put feelers out about to Holiday, about Paul George,
Speaker 3: about a number of players, and I don't think that
Speaker 3: if you survey the landscape of the NBA right now,
Speaker 3: if any of those players have actually come to Utah,
Speaker 3: that it would have fixed anything or even given the
Speaker 3: Jazz a team that could be competitive in the West.
Speaker 3: And so their failures on that are actually probably good
Speaker 3: for the longevity and future of the team. That being said,
Speaker 3: trying to make those deals and thinking that they could
Speaker 3: help is also probably a failure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well said, and I referenced earlier about you know,
Speaker 1: feeling bad for team employees, feeling bad for fans, feeling
Speaker 1: bad for beat riders, and then feeling bad for Will
Speaker 1: Hardy and you recently wrote a piece on Will choosing
Speaker 1: the Jazz as a result of Danny Ainge and his
Speaker 1: track record. And as I've said before, Danny doesn't need
Speaker 1: me to stand up for him. You can go look
Speaker 1: at his track record. As I mean, when you look
Speaker 1: at Danny Ainge and his resume in pro basketball, it's
Speaker 1: a really short list. It's guys like Pat Riley, and
Speaker 1: it's guys like Jerry West who have been great players,
Speaker 1: and they've coached, and they've been in front offices. He
Speaker 1: even did a little media and he was really good
Speaker 1: at it. And I he's often just wonder aloud where
Speaker 1: Will's head at is at here he has two years
Speaker 1: left on his deal. It's a very rare thing for
Speaker 1: head coach to have two separate options picked up. And
Speaker 1: that's where we're at because they obviously think very highly
Speaker 1: of him. But I do wonder if this plan does
Speaker 1: not come to fruition and the luck is not on
Speaker 1: the Jazz side. And we're sitting here in March of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven and the Jazz are once again spinning
Speaker 1: their wheels with no real positive tangible direction forward. What
Speaker 1: that means for this head coach? They could go get
Speaker 1: another job tomorrow. So illuminate us a little bit on
Speaker 1: this process and what Will said to you about why
Speaker 1: you chose Utah And do you think he's long for
Speaker 1: this job even if in two years they're not giving
Speaker 1: him the horses he enters Jim's most night just behind
Speaker 1: the eight ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, when Will Hardy took this job, he
Speaker 3: knew what the assignment was like. It wasn't going to
Speaker 3: be a secret. I think at that point they hadn't
Speaker 3: traded Donovan Mitchell yet when he took the job, but
Speaker 3: he knew that that was a possibility, a probability, and
Speaker 3: that he was probably going to be a coach of
Speaker 3: a team that was going to be going on a rebuild.
Speaker 3: And so it's not like I've used this comparison before.
Speaker 3: When Steven Silas took the job for the Houston Rocket,
Speaker 3: that was a James Harden team with some incoming young
Speaker 3: players that looked like they were going to be fresh
Speaker 3: and ready to help, and within a few weeks, I mean,
Speaker 3: Harden is forcing his way out, not showing up to
Speaker 3: training camp, and then you have a ton of young
Speaker 3: guys that have no direction. That is not the job
Speaker 3: that Steven Silas signed up for. And so that's that's
Speaker 3: kind of the opposite end of the spectrum here, where
Speaker 3: like Will Hardy knew that this is what was going
Speaker 3: to happen. And so I think that that's not to
Speaker 3: say that he is not fatigued, that he is not
Speaker 3: hoping to see a light at the end of the tunnel, right,
Speaker 3: but looking at a job where it's probably going to rebuild,
Speaker 3: it's probably going to take a lot of time and
Speaker 3: is going to be a lot of hard knights and
Speaker 3: struggles and fatigue, I think that that Will was ready
Speaker 3: for that and knew it and also looked across the
Speaker 3: table and was like understood the vision that Ryan, Danny
Speaker 3: Justin Zanik all had and trusted that they were going
Speaker 3: to be able to pull it off. And so then
Speaker 3: what we have to wonder is then at what point
Speaker 3: does he continue believing that they can pull it off
Speaker 3: or does he lose face that they can pull it off,
Speaker 3: and so I think that that's what we're talking about
Speaker 3: kind of in the two to three year stretch from now.
Speaker 3: And you're right, like Will Hardy is well respected. He's
Speaker 3: well regarded across the league, especially by a lot of
Speaker 3: the younger coaches in the league who are successful, and
Speaker 3: they look at Will and they think that he is
Speaker 3: one of the brightest coaches in the league. And so
Speaker 3: he could get a coach tomorrow, or he could get
Speaker 3: a coaching job somewhere else tomorrow. And you're right about that.
Speaker 3: And I think that that's one of the big questions
Speaker 3: going forward is how long is Will Hardy going to
Speaker 3: be able to stick with it? And I think that
Speaker 3: because he signed up for it, that there's probably a
Speaker 3: longer holding pattern there that he can hang on to.
Speaker 3: But it is something to pay attention to.
Speaker 2: So let's operate off a fun hypothetical.
Speaker 1: Let's say Sarah Todd is at the draft lottery on
Speaker 1: May twelfth and for the first time, Lady Luck shines
Speaker 1: on the Jazz and they grab number one, and Cooper
Speaker 1: Flagg suddenly is a jazz man. And I keep saying
Speaker 1: to the listeners, if you have not watched Cooper flag.
Speaker 1: You should because he's very good, and he's very exciting.
Speaker 1: He pops right off the screen and he will be
Speaker 1: good right away, even for a player that should be
Speaker 1: a senior in high school.
Speaker 2: He turned eighteen in December. It's wild.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if that happens, Sarah, as you outline in
Speaker 1: your piece, a couple of directions. Direction one is marketing
Speaker 1: Cooper flag your front court. All Right, we got something here,
Speaker 1: and you know, depending on what they do around them,
Speaker 1: that's a team that probably is not bottom three or
Speaker 1: bottom five next year. But it doesn't mean they're top
Speaker 1: three or five either. They're probably in the middle. So
Speaker 1: the other option is to say, all right, the rebuild
Speaker 1: starts now with his eighteen year old and this is
Speaker 1: our timeline starting with him, which means nobody's safe, including Walker.
Speaker 1: And it's wild to consider because Walker is really good
Speaker 1: and really young. But if the jazz land Cooper flag,
Speaker 1: what does next year look like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you're looking at the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: sixth draft, I'd say that next year is probably going
Speaker 3: to look a lot like this year. And if you
Speaker 3: think about other really young players, I think you know
Speaker 3: it's not a stretch. I don't think that this is
Speaker 3: a hot take to say that Cooper Flag is not
Speaker 3: as good as Victor Wimbinyama and the Spurs. It's not
Speaker 3: like they made the playoffs in Victor's first couple of years.
Speaker 3: And yes, Victor's out for the rest of the season
Speaker 3: and there was some health issue there. But we've also
Speaker 3: seen that you can very easily sit players a number
Speaker 3: of games and tank your way into another lottery situation.
Speaker 3: And so I would expect for the Jazz to continue
Speaker 3: to want either Ajda Banza, Darren Peterson, maybe Cameron Boozer
Speaker 3: if they can get into the top three of the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six drafts. That's what I fully expect. And
Speaker 3: if you have Cooper Lowry Walker on the same team
Speaker 3: and it looks like it's going to be too good,
Speaker 3: then you probably have to get rid of one of
Speaker 3: those players, and or you have to really really manage
Speaker 3: the injury report in even a more remarkable way than
Speaker 3: the Jazz have done this season. Right now, that's what
Speaker 3: I expect to happen. If the Jazz were to get
Speaker 3: Cooper Flag, I don't expect for them to try to
Speaker 3: start getting into the playoffs right away. Probably wouldn't be
Speaker 3: able to do that with Cooper Flag and this roster anyways,
Speaker 3: And so I would expect for more moves to be
Speaker 3: made and for the Jazz to try and get into
Speaker 3: the lottery again next year.
Speaker 1: Cody Williams is twenty years old, and you know he
Speaker 1: is a young player on a team that's not serious
Speaker 1: about winning. So I'm not trying to judge him too harshly.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be honest about what you would
Speaker 1: like to see from a player drafted where he was drafted,
Speaker 1: and he spent some time with the Stars and there
Speaker 1: were some bright moments, but not enough.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you have a top ten pick, if.
Speaker 1: You sent him down to the G League, you want
Speaker 1: like thirty and fifteen every night.
Speaker 2: You want him to dominate.
Speaker 1: And he's received more playing time as of late, and
Speaker 1: it just hasn't looked good. What's fair to say year one,
Speaker 1: twenty year old Cody Williams, and have you changed your
Speaker 1: calculus on who he can be in this league?
Speaker 3: I have. I was probably a lot higher on him
Speaker 3: before and during the draft process, and coming into this season,
Speaker 3: what I've seen is it's really rough, Like there's not
Speaker 3: really any way to Sugarcoat that it's been a really
Speaker 3: rough season for Cody, And I think that some of
Speaker 3: the things that you thought about him during the draft process, right, like,
Speaker 3: he's able to kind of disappear during a game, but
Speaker 3: not in a negative way, make an impact, do really
Speaker 3: smart things, still score and just look very smart and
Speaker 3: not look like he was trying to take over, but
Speaker 3: still making all of the right moves. That's kind of
Speaker 3: the player profile that he had coming into the season.
Speaker 3: And I think that the problem is that now Cody
Speaker 3: Williams disappears during a game and not in a positive way.
Speaker 3: He just like doesn't make an impact more often than not.
Speaker 3: And the shooting is concerning because of how inconsistent the
Speaker 3: shooting is, and there's a lot of air balls. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of times that he's you know, hitting out
Speaker 3: the backboard or front running. It's not like, you know,
Speaker 3: if he was consistently missing and he was hitting back
Speaker 3: room all the time, and you'd say, like, you know,
Speaker 3: you'd make some minor tweaks. But because the misses are
Speaker 3: so inconsistent, then that the shot is concerning. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it's I think that as it stands right now, I
Speaker 3: see Cody Williams. And like you said, it's a bad year,
Speaker 3: a down year, a bad team, and so you don't
Speaker 3: want to make it all about him, and so I
Speaker 3: want to give him benefit of the doubt and give
Speaker 3: him a little bit of grace in the situation. Say that, like,
Speaker 3: I really hope still that he can develop. And I
Speaker 3: think that an off season where he's really working on
Speaker 3: his body is really going to do him a lot
Speaker 3: of favors because probably his biggest flaw is that he
Speaker 3: lacks strength. But there needs to be a lot of
Speaker 3: work done in a lot of areas for Cody Williams.
Speaker 3: And right now he looks like a project, and I
Speaker 3: don't know where what the project looks like when it's completed.
Speaker 2: All right, Sarah, last thing for today.
Speaker 1: Since you and I last spoke, it became official Alex
Speaker 1: Jensen hired as the seventeenth head coach in Utah men's
Speaker 1: basketball history. As a media member that out of a
Speaker 1: front row seat during Alex's time with the Jazz, what
Speaker 1: would you say to you fans about what you witnessed
Speaker 1: as far as his ability to develop talent?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say his ability to connect with players is
Speaker 3: really impressive and that's that's probably one of the biggest
Speaker 3: attributes about Alex Jensen, not just players, his ability to
Speaker 3: connect with anyone. He was incredibly kind and generous with
Speaker 3: his time with me while he was with the Jazz
Speaker 3: and even after that, you know, seeing him in Dallas,
Speaker 3: he has continued to be kind and players love him
Speaker 3: and they gravitate towards him, and they appreciate the wealth
Speaker 3: of knowledge that he has. And I think that with
Speaker 3: any coach that's coming from the NBA ranks and going
Speaker 3: to the college ranks they can offer that is a
Speaker 3: really impressive package for any sort of recruit that's looking
Speaker 3: at where they can learn what it takes to get
Speaker 3: to the next level. Alex Jensen has that knowledge, and
Speaker 3: so I think he's going to do great job and
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of high hopes.
Speaker 1: Sarah, thanks for the time, enjoy the weather, and we'll
Speaker 1: get you back on soon. Okay, all right, talk soon, spent,
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