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Bez Telegate's welcome back to another edition of the PSO.

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I am the team, You're Telo Tom Fitzgerald, and I'm

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here with the Low and you Tilo Lorenzo. We love

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hus Bud. We're back. We're back. But if you're saying

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anything else, I just want to start off at the

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top of the show to uh acknowledge the wildfires in

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Los Angeles that are just devastating. Yes, I agree, uh

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and give our you know, our support and our thoughts

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to every anyone out there who's listening, who is dealing

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with that, and even if you're not listening. Uh, it's

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just a terrible thing. We're going to have a few

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thoughts on that further down the line in this episode

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and how they relate to basically our work. Not that

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we're making it about us, but now we are going

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to make it about us because I know some of you,

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at least some of you, are wondering about our absolutely

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massive epic trip to Europe for Christmas. We're going to

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talk a little bit about that, and then we have

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some pop culture stuff to get into, like Lively justin Baldoni,

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the Golden Globes, Zendeia getting engaged. We're going to touch

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on all that in a bit. But the trip. Lorenzo

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planned an amazing epic trip to Cologne, Germany, Amsterdam and Bruges, Belgium,

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which they don't say it like that, which I was like,

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I can't even get this right. Anyway, it was an

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amazing two weeks. It was the best Christmas of my life.

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And I've had a lot of great Christmas and I

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think I told you that through my life now, and yeah,

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it was just an amazing time. Lorenzo go to talk

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Speaker 2: It was really amazing. A lot of planning. We've talked

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about planning a trip and which is exciting. It's always overwhelming,

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especially when you go to a place you haven't been before.

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what are you going to see? But anyway, it's exciting also,

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and we did a lot of planning and everything went really,

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really well. We had the best time. Tommy's under the weather.

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Just so you guys know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to start off with a bunch I know,

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but his excuses, but we're taping this at five point

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thirty in the morning because of the construction going on

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next door. And I had been battling a cold since

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we got back from Europe. So I so you knew.

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If I sound a little funky, I'm sorry about that.

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I will not be fleming my way into the microphone.

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to get it done, all right, about me and my

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So the trip was amazing. Cologne was fantastic. Was

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nice to be in Germany. I love Germany and German

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people just love it. It was you know, I just

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loved the whole thing. Loved me, They loved Tom. They

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thought Tom was German, but he has to explain that

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that he's actually half German or.

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Speaker 1: Shorter German. And I don't want to say in all

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my travels as if I'm some sort of incredibly well

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traveled person, but I mean, we've been to several countries

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in Europe and this never happened. It didn't happen in Ireland.

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was always like middle aged or older German Man would

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just sort of looked me up and down and then

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not at me. And I was like, what is going

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looked like good German stock or something. I'm just this big,

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hearty looking dude. So we have fretz. And then we

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were in Amsterdam and in this crowded cafe and I

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the bathroom. And I stood up and I turned around

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and this table of again middle aged or older men

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up and down. And I was like, oh, are they gay?

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I just look like good German something stock. I always

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very Irish, but I don't know that that's necessarily true.

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dozins in the museum. It's a historical museum, so they

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am German, so I guess I'm not very Irish. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, it was absolutely fantastic. Uh. The plan was

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I'll get to Amsterdam and in the Netherlands and all

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that in a minute. But we had also planned to

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you know, trip extravagant eye extrava Christmas extravagan And it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, actually we do.

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Speaker 2: We just don't mention it a lot, but we do trade.

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Speaker 1: We landed in Amsterdam and trapped our major luggage off

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with his brother and his brother's girlfriend, and then we

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got right on a train to Germany, Uh, to Cologne

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in fact. And how long was that train ride? Oh god,

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and it's like, it's so funny because like the you know,

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just the bathrooms, like the bathrooms on those trains are

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Speaker 2: Sit and you have places to put everything.

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Speaker 1: Everything. They have like a little shell for your iPhone

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and a little button you push and it's a hook

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for your coat and I'll fly to adjust your I know,

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sublic such a pressent, I know. But anyway, alone Germany, Jesus.

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and I managed to get a hotel not too far

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modern plaza, and then the cathedrals right there, and it's

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of church. I mean it's not even like, oh it's

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fantastic time. I did my research trying to find the

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what seven Christmas market.

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about seven, correct, I think so. And it was incredible.

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Speaker 1: He is telling a version of the story that I

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do not entirely agree with, and as I'm just going

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to jump in here, we came home with a two

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rock load of stuff, half of which Lorenzo insisted upon buying. Yeah,

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it was not it was not this thing where it

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Speaker 2: But it was cute to see you go. You can't

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way you were prepared. I was prepared. It was funny

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the cathedral, the Cologne Cathedral market, which is right right

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outside the cathedral, and it was right near our hotel,

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and we literally walked in and the very first stall

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you know, bro dust, glass dust, so that you know,

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it sound. And in fact a good but I would

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well crafted wooden Christmas stuff. Anyway, one of the things

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the cookie cutters and you were like, oh, yes, I

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shape like a cat. And they're actually I didn't realize

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speaking of which, there's cats. They don't understand why we

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haven't a podcasted over three weeks and they're like, what

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Speaker 2: I know, we missed our babies, but they were actually fine.

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to Coloon. We they were the most amazing markets and

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Speaker 1: And Germany's manageable.

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Speaker 1: It has like thirty markets.

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to look like a train, which is adorable, durable and

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dangerous as fine. I know, seatbelt, I know, stuff like that.

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it drops you off at several markets.

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you can just keep getting out and off. Yeah, so

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that was helpful. That was very helpful. I if I'm

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this last night. The uh my number one would be

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the probably the Angel Market because it was so pretty

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and we went there in the daytime and it was

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pouring rain. I have to laugh. We let's say, our

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last four trips or our last several trips to Europe

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have been to London, Ireland, Germany and Amsterdam. I have

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not seen Belgium, and I haven't seen the sun in Europe.

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Speaker 2: I know, I love, I love.

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Speaker 1: I like that. It was so overcast and rainy the

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whole time we were there, and you know, we had

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prepared ourselves. We had read the reports and we knew

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it wasn't going to snow, and we were kind of

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disappointed about that, but we got that out of our

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systems ahead of time. You know, I love our photographs.

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and it's kind of exactly what you want those cities

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would have been disappointed if it was sunny, but it

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did not bother me at all that it was overcasting

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the entire time. It was German. I mean, if you

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go to Instagram and look at our pictures of Colonne Cathedral,

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you kind of want a stormy gray background for that.

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So anyway, no, I agree.

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Speaker 2: But about the markets and about in general, they are

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because I read a bunch of reviews and sits, and

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I highly recommend that you do the same if you

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want to go see them. Is that the number one?

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Speaker 1: It is true.

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Speaker 2: They are packed, they are there. It's a crowd.

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Speaker 1: Well go ahead, Oh no, you go ahead. I just

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want to note that we went We got there the twentieth,

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so we were going the week before Christmas in Germany,

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and these places were packed. And as I noted to

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Lorenzo lately later, I said, you know, my impression of

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all the German markets was that they were full of Germans.

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to Bruges and that felt completely international. That's just you

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heard every language walking down the street. But it was

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packed with Germans because it was Christmas week. They were

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all off. I think the I think the tourists must

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hit those markets earlier in the month. But this was

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kind of fun because the fast, the atmosphere was so festive.

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it was. Every market we went to was just packed

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with happy, drunk Germans. And so the atmosphere is really festive.

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you have to get If you can't deal with crowds

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and this is not your activity. I hate crowds.

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on what you're looking for. If you just want to

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go in, buy stuff and get out, go early. Because

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we went to the to the uh St Nicholas market

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and we went to the cathedral one very early in

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the morning when they had just opened and there was

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nobody there. Uh And when you shop, we actually got

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to see the stalls and everything. Could you know, the

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night before we could barely walk. So it depends. But

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like like Tom said, we went to the Angels Market

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in the afternoon and then we went at night, and

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the I mean, the atmosphere and the vibe is completely different.

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Speaker 1: You have to go to the Angel Market, right right.

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So we went in the early afternoon and it started

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pouring and I said, and I actually said that we

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could tell it's in this park with all these trees

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and and it had all these lights and starbursts hanging

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from the trees. And I was like, this is going

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to look amazing at night. Why don't we just go

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back to the how to? And we did. We waited

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it out for a couple hours. It was still raining

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when we went after dark, but it was gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: It was absolutely go if you see the pictures on

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our Instagram accomp I mean, it doesn't even look.

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Speaker 1: Real, it doesn't so so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: So if you like Christmas, if you want to, you know,

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go to the Christmas markets in Europe. It's not just Germany,

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They're everywhere. Do your research and you love it. I

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think you have a great time if you like Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get finished rating them Angel Market first. I

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wanted to do that. Oh, go ahead, you Angel markets first.

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I think the the Heinzelmannchen one, the Heinzel's market with

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all the yeah, the old town market. It's I had

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to look this up later. Cologne has a city sort

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of mythology that has to do with little gnomes running

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around the city at night doing all the housework for everyone.

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housewife put peas on the steps one night to try

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and catch them, and she caught them, and the gnomes

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were so mad about being caught that they stopped doing

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everyone's housework. So there's it's part. It's in the city's story.

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it's like drunk gnomes everywhere. But it's also just super

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a charge. Like I have to give the Germans credit.

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they know they know how to do it. And so

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it's gnomes everywhere, and it's just you know, all these

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like you know, Alpine looking or Bavarian looking houses and

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huts and everything, and every place you go you can

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get beer, you can get glue wine, and as we

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said in the daytime, it's more shopping, but when you

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get at night, it's just and the food. There's so

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much food. And we had such heavy ass food, but

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it was so damn good. And when I got there,

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I said I had never been to Germany, and I

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was like, you know what, I'm I'm not going to

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eat pizza while I'm here. I'm gonna really really Germany

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how we do it, that's how we do it.

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Speaker 2: We try our best to eat local food, just to

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try it and try different things. I mean, and we

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eat at the market.

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Speaker 1: Well I had a My list was all cliches. But

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I was like, I'm checking off the cliches. So I

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had Vanish ninsel, and I had apple strudle, and I

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had brought worst you know. I was like, I'm just

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going to check these off. No, it was great and

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it was fun. Yeah. They had those amazing potato papes.

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Oh the beef fried yeah, drenched and drenched in oil.

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And those cream puffs remember those? Yeah, yeah, amazing. So

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you know, it was just fun. It was festive. I

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have nothing but really happy memories going through those, even

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though you know, there were times that got really crowded,

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really wet. We got stuck in a hailstorm at one point.

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Speaker 2: But you just go with it. I mean, when you

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travel to another country, your face. I always we always

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joke you know, foreign objects, foreign things to do, like

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because they're all new, and you just have to go

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with it, right and and you know know that you

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know things are going to go wrong, or that you

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don't know what to do stuff like that, like I

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forgot so we we arrived back in Amsterdam and then

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we were just standing waiting for the train door to open.

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We forgot that you actually have to mainly open the door.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to get out. I was talking about that. I mean,

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the great thing about, the great humbling thing about traveling

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is how it it just teaches you, like, yeah, I

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know how toilets work everywhere in the world, I don't

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know how this shower works. Things are different, and it's

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kind of a humbling learning.

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Speaker 2: I always joke about that. I always say that when

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I come back from in and a trip, you know,

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you you you you're reminded again and again that the

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first of all, that you're just a dot, you know,

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in a very very big planet. Uh, and things are

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different and you just not that important, and you're not

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that important as America.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's nice to be like, you know what, you're

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not that big A.

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Speaker 2: No, you're not that important. But anyway, Uh, it was amazing.

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Cologne was amazing, The markets were amazing. I'd say my

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favorite is the Old Town one. I felt like a real,

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real Christmas village. I felt like I was in a

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in a The the Gnomes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my favorite.

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The second Nicholas was also ahead. My second favorite is

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the the cathedral actually, then the third d Angels and

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the fourth I'd go with the Saint Nicholas and Nicholas

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with cute and beautiful army, so charming. And one thing

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you can do is that it's kind of a tradition.

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You you have a drink, you have a glue wine,

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and you collect the mugs if you want each trump each.

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can get glue, wine or hot chocolate in them. Yeah.

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can return the mug and get your deposit back, or

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you just take the mug with you. And most people

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take the mug with them. So we did, we did,

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we have six mugs now, and which isn't all that much.

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First off, they're tiny, They're tiny, little leg you know,

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espresso size. They're not American, they're not big ass you

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know Starbucks mugs, but adorable, very charming. They each have

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a different design based on the market. Some have noomes

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on them, some have angels on them.

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Speaker 2: It's quite an experience. And then I highly recommend it

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to do with your friends, to do with your family,

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with your kids. Yeah, I mean it's fun. A Christmas

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market in another country is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: It is. It's just a lot of fun. You don't

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it doesn't have to be a shopping experience like it

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was for us that but that was something I knew

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I wanted to do. And in fact, I just said

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to Lorenzo yesterday, I don't actually think I'm done with

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Christmas markets. I would love to go to Munich because

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nik is supposed to have great Christmas markets, but I

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would not go to shop. I have done my shopping.

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We came back with an entire suitcase full of stuff.

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I don't need to do that. And when I say

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I just want to say about the stuff that we bought,

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I knew that there were some big ticket items on

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my list that I wanted to try and get while

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I was over there. One was a nutcracker, because you know,

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you're in Germany and they're going to have amazing nutcrackers.

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We in fact, did not buy any nutcrackers.

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Speaker 2: We have amazing nutcriers.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have a nice ones, and I have to

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admit I didn't see any that really right. I mean,

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I'm sure there were amazing ones that were probably three

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hundred euros, but I wasn't spending that kind of money.

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They have in Germany what are called Christmas pyramids. They're

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made out of wood. They're usually depict some sort of

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Christmas scene and then there's a propeller on the top

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of it, and if you light candles underneath it, the

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propeller spins and they are of various elaborate sizes. They

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have very very tall, tiered pyramids that you know, just

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massive pieces with like the Nativity and the three why

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just angel, everything stacked all throughout this thing. I never

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wanted something like that because I never wanted something that

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big and elaborate. And also, I believe it or not,

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I do have a limit and I'm not spending three

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hundred dollars or three hundred euros on a single piece

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for Christmas. It's Christmas, I don't It's only out for

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one month. I'm not going to spend that kind of money.

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But I also knew, having looked at these things in

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American Christmas markets for years, that I might be able

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to find something cheap, cheaper than in America. And we

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went to this one stall and he had them, and

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he had this one that was beautiful. It was a

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tabletop piece. It's not massive, like you could put it

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in the middle of a dining room table, and it's

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just a scene of a small German village and over

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it is Santa and a sleigh with reindeer, and when

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you light the candles, Santa spins around. It's very cute,

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but it was It's a very delicate piece that comes

472
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:14,480
in a lot of it comes in parts. The parts

473
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,559
of it are very thin, thin, thin pieces of wood.

474
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,440
There's a small glass cup in that's inserted in the

475
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,160
bottom for the thing to spin on it right, And

476
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,720
the guy was telling us, he's like, you have to

477
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,920
be very careful. So that basically was so delicate. It

478
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,119
took up most of a carry on and it's not

479
00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:32,720
that big a piece, but we had to wrap it well.

480
00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:35,720
We wanted to protect it. Yeah, and then what else.

481
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,640
I got what's known as a Schwabogan, which is another

482
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:41,319
German Christmas piece. You may have seen them if you

483
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,799
know this sort of thing. It almost looks like a manora.

484
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,880
It's an arch with candles inserted and it's usually no

485
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,319
more than four candles though, and then below the arch

486
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,559
again it depicts some sort of scene. This is a

487
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:57,079
I looked them up. It's a They originated in some

488
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,319
mining town in Germany. At the end of the year,

489
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,079
the miners would make these scenes out of metal, depicting

490
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,960
what happened in the town that year. I mean, charming

491
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,160
as shit. Now they're made out of wood and they

492
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:10,880
all depict like the one that I bought has like

493
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,319
Santa with some presence, and on either side of them

494
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,039
is two angels, which I actually think is kind of

495
00:25:16,079 --> 00:25:19,079
funny because it's sort of mixing up all of the iconography.

496
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,200
Very charming, and again, those things can get insanely elaborate

497
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:28,400
and in my opinion, a little gaudy, But this one

498
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,039
is small. It only has four candles. It's something you

499
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:33,079
can put on a sleep. It's really pretty. But again,

500
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,200
both of those they're not massive pieces, but because they are,

501
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:40,559
they're decent sized. They come in boxes and they are,

502
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,960
you know, somewhat delicate. They took up a lot of

503
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,559
space coming home, right.

504
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,559
Speaker 2: We tried to be very careful bringing all this stuff home,

505
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:48,720
and Tom's very good at that.

506
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: I have to say, nothing broke. Yeah for one little

507
00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:54,160
cat figuring, which I feel bad about. Yeah, you bought that.

508
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,319
Speaker 2: But everything else survive, which is America.

509
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,039
Speaker 1: If you look at the pieces.

510
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was great. It was a wonderful experience.

511
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:05,559
Speaker 1: I bought a bunch of Santas, yes, and this was

512
00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,519
something I was doing because of my mom. My mom

513
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,319
and my dad did a lot of traveling in their

514
00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:14,400
fifties and one of the things I did. My mom

515
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,039
did when she went to other countries was by Santa figures,

516
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:20,720
and she had this lovely Santa collection that my siblings

517
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,000
and I divided up when we when my mother passed,

518
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000
and I think I have the Croatian Santa. Anyway, I

519
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:28,319
was like, I want to go to Germany and get

520
00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:31,039
some Santas and beef up my own Santa collection, which

521
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:34,480
I did, and some of them are ceramics. Some of

522
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,240
them are wooden. I'm looking at them now because they're

523
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:41,039
all in our dining room. And I picked ones that

524
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,000
didn't look American because I was like, if I go

525
00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:46,640
to Germany and get some Coca Cola looking Santa Claues,

526
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:50,400
So there's like gnomes where they have like little weird hats,

527
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,720
or one of them's dressed all in gray. Like it's

528
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,799
just so I love it because now I have this

529
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,960
range of Santa Clauses. And then we bought a lot

530
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,519
of ornaments, but we bought on it's for people as

531
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:04,839
well as for us. He's having a hard time with

532
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,240
this conversation. But some people asked us to pick up ornaments. Yeah,

533
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,880
so I'm putting aside. But that also I went through

534
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,599
these markets and started snatching things because I was like,

535
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:17,680
you know what, these would be hostess gips. These would

536
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,720
be ornament exchange and we'll have these for a couple

537
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:23,400
of years, because who's not you show up at someone

538
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,480
house for Christmas and you're like, here, here's an ornament

539
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,720
from Germany. Come on, that's a great gift. It is

540
00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,680
a great gift. So yeah, there's a bunch of that stuff,

541
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,160
and that's it. We didn't. It really wasn't as elaborate

542
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,519
as you're making it out to be. It's just that

543
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:39,359
everything needed to be really well wrapped. So we we

544
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,759
bought an entire duffel.

545
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,759
Speaker 2: Bag and checked it in very large.

546
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,319
Speaker 1: We we bought a large stuffel bag, and we put

547
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,400
all our dirty clothes in the duffel bag and checked

548
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,839
that in, and then we divided up to stuff among

549
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,640
our harder bags and it was all very very well wrapped.

550
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,279
And no, you did a very good job and everything. Sorry,

551
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:00,839
let's talk about Brush.

552
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that that was the the Germany abortion. I

553
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,319
also wanted to go to Bruges. It's one of those

554
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,680
places that you know you dream of going someday, and

555
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:12,759
Bruce is one of them.

556
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: I kept walking around Brush going and people go to

557
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,400
Disney World instead of coming right now.

558
00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:21,079
Speaker 2: It is such a fairy tale. It is insane, fantastic

559
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,839
little town. It's exactly what you imagine, just beautiful, charming. Again,

560
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,359
people were extremely friendly. Uh, gets very crowded no matter

561
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,200
what time you go.

562
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,559
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to say tourist trap because

563
00:28:36,319 --> 00:28:39,319
but it's it's a tourist destination, fascination.

564
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: For a lot of people in putting Europeans in general,

565
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:46,200
so you will hear every language there and and it's packed.

566
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,599
But the funny thing is that we we get up

567
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,799
early because we like to have our breakfast early, and

568
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,559
you know, hit the road that see everything we can.

569
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:56,240
And we did that in Bruges.

570
00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:57,519
Speaker 1: Before everything was open.

571
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, the stores weren't even opening yet, and this streets

572
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,440
were empty, which was so lovely because we're.

573
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,359
Speaker 1: Walking around and it was so foggy.

574
00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: Yes, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful God. I highly recommended what a

575
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,039
lovely Dreamagical.

576
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,039
Speaker 1: I know it's such a cliche to say a magical place,

577
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:17,880
but it really is. It's just it's I mean, you

578
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,519
just want to dress up like a prince and a

579
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,799
princess walk through this town. It is so medieval looking.

580
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,119
It is so well preserved.

581
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:27,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this town we took the bus because it

582
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,759
to take the train would have to take two trains

583
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:31,359
and it would be a little more complicated. And I

584
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,880
was like, what again, why not take the bus and

585
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:37,200
just see them, you know, you know, go through all

586
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,359
these times and explain.

587
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,519
Speaker 1: We took the train back to Amsterdam after we went

588
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:45,480
to Cologne and spent Christmas in Harlem. With your family.

589
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,559
Right then the day after Christmas, we took the bus

590
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:50,839
to Brucees. I just want to explain. Yeah, And it

591
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,119
was funny because I didn't know. I had heard about it,

592
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,440
but I didn't know that in the Netherlands you celebrate

593
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:02,200
Christmas like three days. So I planned to go to

594
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,000
We planned to go to Bruges right on the twenty

595
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,440
fifth or something. I was like, all right, now the

596
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,440
twenty sixth. Sectually, I was like, all right, we'll spend

597
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,319
Christmas the family and then you know our host. You know,

598
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,079
my brother and.

599
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: His girlfriend were like, no, no, no, we also do the

600
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,160
twenty sixth, and I was like, oh shit, we were

601
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,359
going to Bruges. Anyway, we missed out on that, but anyway,

602
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,799
we still spend a lovely Christmas with my family. With

603
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,799
my mom and my brother hadn't done that in a

604
00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:33,359
long time, the three of us together celebrating something. So

605
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,799
we went to Bruges. We took the bus this time.

606
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,920
We took buses in island, and I'm I just love

607
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:43,640
taking buses and trains and all that because it's an experience.

608
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: You know.

609
00:30:44,319 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes you know, our bus was late, but buses are

610
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,440
always late, and it was, you know, a little stressful,

611
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:53,240
but still we had a great time. We got there

612
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,960
and we spent a lovely time in Bruges. Our hotel

613
00:30:57,079 --> 00:30:59,039
was very, very nice. To have great hotels.

614
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean they're ready, you're ready to make to take

615
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,119
your money. They're ready to take your money. And I

616
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,400
mean the chocolate, chocolate you can just every time he

617
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,960
turned around, there's another insane chocolate shop with world class chocolate.

618
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:16,480
Like just we were kind of overloaded. And when I

619
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,160
remember when we got home, I was like, I can't

620
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200
have any sweets. I've had Belgian waffles, I've had hot chocolate,

621
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:26,400
I've had Belgian chocolate. But yeah, it's just amazing. Everything

622
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:31,000
is gorgeous there. The the they're very friendly to turists

623
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,119
because they want your money. And the two hottest men

624
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:39,640
we saw in Europe were in Remember that waiter, the

625
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,359
hottest waiter in Europe who was like fifty, but he

626
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,319
was hot and gay and he knew he was hot.

627
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,079
And then we walked into this Belgian waffle place, just

628
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,279
this cute little Belgian waffle place to have and there

629
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,880
was now I want to be clear here, he was

630
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,240
like nineteen years old, so we were not lusting over

631
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:56,359
this guy. It was more like Jesus Christ. That guy

632
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,759
could be a model. Yeah, I mean walk in there's

633
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:03,960
this absolutely stunningly beautiful kid behind the counter, and I'm like, oh,

634
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,960
he could be. You are wasting your dime Felden Wopples kid. Anyway,

635
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:12,559
but they they have beautiful museums. Surprisingly, they have a

636
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,079
ton of museums in Bruges, you know for such a

637
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:18,599
small town. Chocolate museum, a beer museum, everything, a French

638
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,839
fries museum, French fries, oh yeah, you gotta get your

639
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:23,000
French fries in Belgium, and were amazing.

640
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,519
Speaker 2: And all the other great museums too, just lovely. I

641
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,599
highly recommend it if you want to go to Belgium,

642
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,359
if you want to try a small town, that would

643
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,400
be it. So then we went back to.

644
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,279
Speaker 1: Harlem sledsh like I want to say, yeah, I just

645
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,839
want to say real quick. In Belgium and also in

646
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,160
the Netherlands and in Germany, whenever we sat down to eat,

647
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:47,680
I just picked a local beer off the menu. I

648
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,599
didn't even question because you're in Germany, Amsterdam and Belgium

649
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,759
like best fricking beers in the world. And it was great.

650
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:59,480
I avoided every name brand beer that I saw. I'm

651
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,279
not having high in Germany. I'm going to have some

652
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:04,000
local beer. I'm you know, I'm not having Amstell or

653
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,680
Stella in Germany. In the Netherlands, I'm going to have

654
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,160
some you know, local. Cannot recommend that approach enough. I

655
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,599
had some amazing, amazing I remember the names of any

656
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,279
of them, but I had. I just had a great

657
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:18,559
beer tour. Anyway, go ahead.

658
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: It's nice to try local things. I mean, that's my

659
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,359
if you you know, we give it a shot, try

660
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,799
different things, and if you don't like them, at least

661
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:29,440
you know you you tried them. So we went back

662
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,039
to Amsterdam slash Harlem and spend the rest of the

663
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:34,880
time there. New Year's Eve also with my family, which

664
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,359
was lovely. We went to this Italian restaurant that had

665
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,000
a very very special New Year's Eve dinner. Uh, just

666
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,319
just phenomenal. And then we this time we decided to

667
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:49,319
do things that we hadn't done or seen, you know,

668
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,400
from our previous trip.

669
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: So that was it was nice.

670
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: We had a wonderful time, and then I wanted very

671
00:33:56,119 --> 00:34:00,359
much to go to a small town near to them

672
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,480
called us Us And I mean, I'm gonna pronounce it wrong,

673
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,559
uns and shuns, I believe.

674
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

675
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: It's a small town near Amsterdam where they have village.

676
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:11,760
It's a village. Yeah, and they have all these incredible

677
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:16,960
mills and barns and windmills and barns and workshops.

678
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's just lovely. I mean it looks I

679
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,239
had never seen a working windmill up close, like old

680
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,920
fashioned Dutch windmill. I had seen windmills in the Netherlands,

681
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,599
but they weren't working. And you go up to these

682
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,440
things while they're spinning, and it's it's kind of awesome

683
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:34,800
being up closed. They're a little they're more than a

684
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,880
little intimidating. First off, they make noise, loud banging, thumping noise,

685
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,559
and those blades are like, wow, that could take my

686
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,480
head off if I wandered too close to it. Not

687
00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:46,280
that I was ever in any danger. They make sure

688
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,840
you're not. But and we got to go inside one

689
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,760
of them, right right then you realize these are you know,

690
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,880
they're not quaint little buildings. They are massive, massive pieces

691
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,920
of machinery. Yeah.

692
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: Someone actually asked on Instagram they serve a purpose? And yeah,

693
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,519
and yes they did. They all did something.

694
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: They were for grinding and you know, mill and all

695
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,320
that sort of stuff, and what the town itself was

696
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,039
charming as hell. It was again, almost like a little

697
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,679
Disney village. We did find out later that it was reconstructed,

698
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,800
that the houses were moved there from other villages, but just,

699
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,000
oh my god.

700
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: For preservation, they moved all these historical houses and and

701
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:31,039
you know, to the town. Yeah, so that they could

702
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:32,719
be there.

703
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:35,159
Speaker 1: Now, just with all of these windmills on it and

704
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:38,760
all these like ducks and swans wandering around and little

705
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,199
hot chocolate shops and little oh there was a wooden

706
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,440
shoe museum which we went into. Just charming, charming, charming.

707
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:45,320
Had a great time.

708
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: We had the best time. I wanted to go there.

709
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,840
It's much more beautiful depending on what you define. It's

710
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,079
beautiful during summer time or springtime, because you know, you

711
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:56,320
get all that fun and life.

712
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

713
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my mom was there. My brother took my

714
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,440
mom there, I think summer or springtime. And she said this,

715
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,159
and she kept saying, all these places were covered with

716
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,639
flowers the last time I was here. Yeah, but we

717
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,280
still enjoyed it. It was beautiful, it was We took

718
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,239
beautiful pictures. Anyway, it was, in my opinion, one of

719
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,800
the best trips this time.

720
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank and thank you for your patience because there

721
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:22,559
was such a an interruption of service. We will not

722
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:27,239
be traveling again this year. We're taking a long break,

723
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,679
that is true. But it was a wonderful trip. And

724
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,559
now we've got to get down to business and talk

725
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:35,519
about all that pop style stuff that this I know

726
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,000
podcast is named after. But let's take a short break.

727
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:42,679
We're back and one of the first things I want

728
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,880
to do is address a story that we were sitting

729
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,840
on the couch in Amsterdam like Christmas week and I

730
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,400
turned to you and I said, oh, I know what

731
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,000
the next podcast is going to be about. We're a

732
00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:57,079
little late on this because of the holidays, but the

733
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,679
Justin Baldoni Blake Lively war has really heated up, and

734
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,320
I felt in the wake of new developments that we

735
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,840
really needed to revisit this because we talked about it

736
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,360
during the fall when the It Ends with Us tour

737
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,960
was going on. We devoted most of the half of

738
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,760
a podcast to it. And I panicked and we were

739
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,599
at your brother's South and I went upstairs into our

740
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,199
bedroom to listen to the I was like, shit, how bad.

741
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,320
Did we screw this up? Because you know, it was

742
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:32,920
a twist to recap. During the promo tour for It

743
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:37,320
Ends with Us, the director, star Justin Baldoni, and star

744
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:41,360
Blake Lively appeared not to be getting along with each other.

745
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,679
There was all kinds of rumors about stuff on set

746
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:48,960
and what what we were discussing at the time was

747
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:53,480
a lot of questionable behavior on Blake Lively's part that

748
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:57,760
was happening during this promotional tour and at the time

749
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,559
when we talked about this in the podcast, I did

750
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:05,039
say we did say that Justin Baldoni seemed to be

751
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,840
rather smoothly handling all of this, which is a little questionable.

752
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,840
And also we pointed out that he had hired Johnny

753
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,639
Depp's crisis PR team, which was very questionable, and Blake Lively.

754
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:23,199
Over the holidays, she dropped a lawsuit alleging sexual harassment.

755
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,920
She got hold of a bunch of text messages from

756
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,360
this PR team and it was all about how they

757
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,480
were planting stories to bury her, to quote unquote bury her.

758
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,679
Her stories about what happened on the set are pretty horrific.

759
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:44,480
He sounds like a complete asshole, and we'll see I

760
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:48,000
mean and now he has countersued. But again this is

761
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:51,960
sort of out of the depth. Johnny depp playbook is

762
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,760
you countersuit the person making the accusations against you, and

763
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,840
you try and paint them in the worst possible light.

764
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,199
And it worked with Amber Heard. And I'll say what

765
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,840
I said now, what I said back then when we

766
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,840
had all these Johnny Depp fans, you know, attacking Amber

767
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,360
Heard in our comments or whatever. It doesn't matter if

768
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,519
Blake Lily is an asshole. And part of our podcast

769
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:17,119
was about her being an asshole. We thought the the

770
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:19,960
promotional tour with all the flowers and everything, we thought

771
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,559
that was gross. We thought it was gross that she

772
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:26,679
was using it to promote her booze line and her

773
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,119
hair care line. This is a story about domestic violence.

774
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,960
If you want to say something, guy, I still.

775
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,599
Speaker 2: Think all that is gross, so do I. Yeah, I

776
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,079
don't want to take that away. I mean, my criticism

777
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,559
of the way she handled the red carpet about a

778
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:40,639
movie about.

779
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,599
Speaker 1: Abuse was still crass.

780
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: It's still horrible to me because, yeah, it but that celebrities,

781
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,039
they waited that that's Hollywood. It was a little what

782
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:50,280
was a little strange, And I remember and I mentioned

783
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,159
this in the in our podcast, was that I was

784
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:55,639
looking for pictures of them together because you know, there

785
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,480
weren't they weren't there were there were you know, they

786
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,800
didn't get any image. No place had photographs of them

787
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,039
together on the red carpet, and we wanted that for

788
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,679
the site. So I thought that was a little strange.

789
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:11,360
And that's when we started reading stuff about him avoiding

790
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,920
her on the red carpet and everybody else in the

791
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,480
movie avoiding him so.

792
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:19,039
Speaker 1: And he was like when she was promoting her booze line,

793
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:23,760
he was like, you know, donating to women's groups in

794
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,199
Los Angeles. And we noted this at the time where

795
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,840
it was like, well, that's very good on paper. You

796
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,800
have to look at that with a little bit of

797
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,639
a side eyes. So at least I'm glad we did

798
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,440
call that out at the time. It's not that we

799
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,199
bought into anything wholesale, but our discussion at the time

800
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,320
was mostly about Blake Lively's poor public facing behavior, and

801
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,719
this is just a return to that point about amber Heard.

802
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,480
It doesn't matter if Amberhard was an asshole, she still

803
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:51,800
shouldn't have been, you know, smacked around by her husband.

804
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,679
And it doesn't matter if Blake Lively is crass or

805
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,000
whatever he was, you know, making her shoot scenes, you know,

806
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:02,239
a burst scene naked, or complaining about her weight, or

807
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:06,320
showing her pictures of other naked women. And there were

808
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,320
so many examples of him acting very in a very crass,

809
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:13,960
bizarre manner that I don't think it's all that questionable

810
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,559
that she's probably in the right. This is all going

811
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:22,639
to hash out in the court. And you said before

812
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:24,360
we flipped on the mics, the lesson here is you

813
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,000
never really know.

814
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: You never you never know, You never know what really happened.

815
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:31,400
Hopefully you do, uh for you know, for her sake

816
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:34,000
in this case, but you don't know.

817
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: You don't know.

818
00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:39,119
Speaker 2: But it's interesting that at least you know, you learn

819
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,639
all the time, that every time that there's always more

820
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,360
to this story than than what's presented, Especially when it

821
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,280
comes to celebrities, you never know.

822
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: And when, and we also noted this at the time,

823
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:55,199
you should always stop a minute in question, why am

824
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,880
I suddenly hearing all of these bad stories about this

825
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,559
person at the same like suddenly that's PR that's what

826
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:02,159
PR people.

827
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,679
Speaker 2: Well, that's the saying a PR is a machine and

828
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,599
it will destroy you or elevate you. That's that's that

829
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:14,519
its job pretty much. It's to to you know, make

830
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:18,639
you a favor or a favorite, or maybe make make

831
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:19,320
people hate you.

832
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. So at the end of the day, I still

833
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,239
think black Lively is crass. I think she and her

834
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,519
husband are influencers more than they are actors. They are

835
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,480
far more interested in their companies than they are their performances.

836
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:36,719
But that does not make spechual erath correct or good

837
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,920
or something she deserved. So I hope she gets justice

838
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,880
for this, I really do. It sounds like he put

839
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,000
her through hell and then he literally tried to destroy

840
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:47,599
her career. Honestly, I think he was kind of stupid

841
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,239
for that because they are a power couple, the two

842
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,679
of them, and Ryan Reynolds did step in, and that's

843
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,840
part of the lawsuit is that, you know, his name

844
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,559
keeps coming up.

845
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're popular in the you know, Hollywood.

846
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,840
People like them.

847
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: He had the biggest movie, one of the biggest movies of.

848
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: The year, so I thought about that, But at the

849
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,079
same time, I felt it was strange that everybody else

850
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,320
in the movie started unfollowing him on social media. Justin

851
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,599
Baldoni yeah, and not talking to him at all the

852
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:18,719
red carpet and during the promoting the movie, and I

853
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,800
was like, that's strange. I mean why, so there you go,

854
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,360
now you know why.

855
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we just wanted to revisit that just because

856
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:29,800
we take the book some time to it and uh,

857
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,599
just lesson learned on my part is to always question

858
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:36,039
when these stories, why these stories are being planted, especially

859
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:40,480
if they're being planted against a woman, Because clearly he

860
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:43,159
and his PR team felt they could exploit the fact

861
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:46,239
that women that the public will turn on women on

862
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,800
a time. Women celebrities. Look at and I'm not saying

863
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,800
some of them deserved it, but look at how quickly

864
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,559
Ellen degener is tanked. Look At how quickly Jennifer Lopez tanked.

865
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,119
Look at how quickly Katy Perry this year She's put

866
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:02,079
out one bad album them and suddenly no one can

867
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:06,079
say a nice thing about Katy Perry. I'm not saying

868
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:09,119
all these are our PR campaigns, but I do note

869
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:12,360
that the public will turn on female celebrities very very,

870
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,440
very quickly, and I think Justin Baldoni knew that and

871
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,320
exploited it. I agree, And that's our lesson is to

872
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,360
make sure to keep our eyes open for that sort

873
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,559
of thing. Okay, we've done that. Now, what's the next

874
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:26,920
thing we want to do? Oh? The fires, the fires

875
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,559
in Los Angeles. It's so I put this. I sketed

876
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:35,039
this because we're not on I mean, we are on Twitter,

877
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:36,599
but if you want to follow us and here are

878
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:38,599
our thoughts on anything, we're on blue sky So please

879
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,239
follow us on blue Skype. And I skeed it on

880
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,920
blue sky the other day that it just feels stupid

881
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,000
and impotent to send your thoughts and prayers on social media.

882
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,199
But you can't let that go unacknowledged either. I reached

883
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:51,840
out to a couple of people we know out there

884
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,880
to see if they were okay, and they are. I mean,

885
00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:01,440
we have family there and we do. Yeah, your uncle right, well,

886
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,000
no he's not in Los Angeles.

887
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,559
Speaker 2: But he's in California. Yeah that's a.

888
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,639
Speaker 1: Big, big, big state. Yep. Sorry, you threw me off.

889
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:11,039
I was like, I don't have family in Los Angeles anyway.

890
00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:15,960
It's a terrible thing and the pictures are horrible, and

891
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:19,599
honestly it sounds so lame, but our thoughts and prayers

892
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:21,800
really do go out to everybody out there. Who's dealing

893
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,159
with it.

894
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: I feel terrible for everybody, and we tend to hear

895
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,960
about the big houses and the big people, which it's,

896
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:31,199
you know, also horrible. I mean, let's face it, they

897
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,960
deserve it. It's your home. But you know, we tend

898
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:37,679
to forget all the little people who will not have

899
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,760
the money or the resources to rebuild their lives and

900
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,519
their homes, and that is devastating.

901
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,679
Speaker 1: It is horrible. I mean, there's story communities no matter what.

902
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, these there are stories out there if you, if

903
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,960
you look for them of families who still haven't recovered

904
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:56,280
from the previous one, from the previous one. And that's

905
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,599
the thing that you know, breaks my heart and it

906
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,239
makes me anger, is that I don't want to make

907
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,519
this about politics, but you know, my entire life, I've

908
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:08,119
heard about this fire in California, and I cannot believe

909
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,440
that we haven't found a way to deal with those

910
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,519
far as in a better way. I'm not saying we're

911
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:15,840
going to get rid of them or or avoid them,

912
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,199
because we can't. But I can't. I can't imagine that.

913
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,039
I mean, there's there's a way that politics and people

914
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:25,920
with money can't make this a little more you know,

915
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:26,559
I don't know.

916
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's horrible. I don't I don't know

917
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,000
if I agree with you. No, I only because I

918
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,320
don't have them facts. I don't. I can't weigh in

919
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,000
on that, I know.

920
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:38,039
Speaker 2: But but there there's I don't know. I I think

921
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,920
that there could be I could be wrong, but I

922
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,679
think there could be a better system to deal with this.

923
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Not that you can't get rid of it or eliminate

924
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,000
it because it's you know, it's it's a natural disaster.

925
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:53,920
But I was actually listening to NPR, uh and then

926
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,920
you know, some some experts on fire and all that.

927
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,639
We're saying, Yeah, the first thing we think is it's

928
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,559
it's to blame, you know, I don't know, blame everybody,

929
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:07,960
Blame the politics, or blame blame it on you know,

930
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,800
the change, climate change and all that.

931
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,159
Speaker 1: You know.

932
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:15,159
Speaker 2: And he said, there is some truth to that that

933
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,079
these things contribute to, you know, a far worse situation.

934
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,320
It's not that the fires wouldn't happen anyway, right, I'm

935
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,400
not saying the fires wouldn't happen anyway. Let me just

936
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,119
put this very clear here, But I think that after

937
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:31,000
all these years, we haven't found.

938
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,039
Speaker 1: A way to deal with this a little better. I

939
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:34,440
don't know.

940
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: We we we certainly have the money.

941
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,079
Speaker 1: One of the things I wanted to address was the

942
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,679
question of what's going to happen with the wards season. Now,

943
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,960
obviously this is not the number one question I think,

944
00:47:49,519 --> 00:47:51,599
you know, arising out of these fires. There's a lot

945
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:56,880
of tragedy and terror going on right now. But this

946
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,079
affects us, and this is something for which we have,

947
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:03,559
you know, a few thoughts. The Critics Choice Awards were

948
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,920
supposed to air this Sunday, and they have been pushed

949
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,199
back by two weeks. The voting for the Oscars has

950
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,119
been pushed back by a couple of days. They're going

951
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,559
to announce the nominations on a Sunday now, which is

952
00:48:14,639 --> 00:48:20,639
kind of unprecedented, I know, Galleca. The LGBTQ Film Critics

953
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:25,280
Association to which we belong, has extended their voting by

954
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,760
several days. And you know, there's certain things that are

955
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,679
up in the air about things like the SAG Awards

956
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,159
and stuff like that. And now there's talk about either

957
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:39,159
postponing or for some bizarre reason, not televising the oscars,

958
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:41,440
like having them, but not televising them. Which honestly makes

959
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,360
no sense to me at all. And I don't argue,

960
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,039
you know, if Los Angeles is burning, like, I don't

961
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,039
know that that is the best time to be having

962
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:55,199
an award ceremony. Having said that, the Oscars aren't until

963
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:58,320
March second, I think, and I don't think the fires

964
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,519
will still be going on at that point. I don't know.

965
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:05,559
I feel some kind of way about this. When they

966
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:09,920
did delayed the Critics' Choice Awards, I broke the news

967
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,280
to Lorenzo, and I was like, Jesus, it's just one

968
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,679
thing after another with this job. Just to put this

969
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,719
in perspective, this period during award season, this two month

970
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,599
period is our It's our big financial period. It's where

971
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:27,079
we make a decent amount of our money, A decent

972
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:30,880
amount of our page views are coming during this period.

973
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,920
It's just our busy season. And if you take that

974
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,519
away from us, if it goes away, that's an enormous

975
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,280
chunk of change out of our yearly revenue. That's not

976
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,280
a complaint. This shit happens, But I've just been noting

977
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,679
how much shit has been up. But like the strike

978
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,639
did the same thing. The strike had a serious, serious,

979
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:53,079
serious dampening effect on our revenue. Lockdown did the same thing,

980
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:57,480
serious damping effect on our revenue. So I'm just throwing

981
00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,480
this out there because people may not realize that our

982
00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:03,599
jobs are are constantly, constantly, constantly buffeted by the events

983
00:50:03,679 --> 00:50:07,079
of the world. And it'll be interesting to see how

984
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:10,599
this plays out. But that is an argument for not canceling.

985
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,159
Not that we're losing money, but if we're losing money

986
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:15,719
all the way over here in Philadelphia and we're not

987
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,920
connected to this at all, imagine how much money would

988
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,840
be lost in Los Angeles if they canceled all of

989
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,000
these I mean, there's caterers, there's limousine drivers, there's hairstylists,

990
00:50:24,039 --> 00:50:29,280
there's publicists, there's caterers, there's waiters, there's all of those

991
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,039
people who make a ton of money off of these shows.

992
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:36,079
And I don't think it's right to cancel them. I

993
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:41,280
do think if as this devastation goes on, I do

994
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,760
think it might be a good idea for these award

995
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,719
shows to turn themselves into benefits or some to try

996
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,440
and raise money some way for the victims. That's how

997
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,719
you move forward. But canceling them completely, I don't see

998
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,840
the point at that At all anyway, No.

999
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: That's I agree with that. I think you know, Jean

1000
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,800
Smart came came out with a statement saying, you know,

1001
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,880
we should cancel all the uh you know.

1002
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: The oscars, And I'm like, team, how smart you got yours? Yeah?

1003
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:12,119
Speaker 2: I mean, and I think that's you know again, I

1004
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:15,239
feel like people say these things and they make these

1005
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,119
statements and stuff.

1006
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:16,519
Speaker 1: That's too.

1007
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: I think everything is very showy. Uh that that's how

1008
00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:22,559
That's how I feel. If you really want to help,

1009
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:26,920
I mean, you you celebrities, you actors have a zillion

1010
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,559
tons of money. Why don't you donate? Why don't you

1011
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:33,760
create an event? Like you said, that's what I'm yeah,

1012
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,400
why don't you start doing that? All of you same thing?

1013
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:41,639
You know, get together? Do I don't know, there's some benefits,

1014
00:51:41,639 --> 00:51:44,519
some sort of thing to benefit and make make the

1015
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:48,599
oscars will make something different, you know, it doesn't have

1016
00:51:48,679 --> 00:51:50,840
to be as showy. It doesn't have you know, there's

1017
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,599
this idea that Hollywood is all about you know, artificial,

1018
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:59,840
superficial things, and and I understand that's the idea. We

1019
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,760
have have a Hollywood of celebrities and and and glamour

1020
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,559
all that that that's not important but there's a whole industry.

1021
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Behind atry as well. There's a whole I mean many

1022
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:14,159
many movies and TV shows stop you know, shooting and

1023
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,559
stop because of the fire.

1024
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:17,639
Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on. People lose a lot

1025
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,800
of money. Yeah, I'm not saying that that that we

1026
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,280
shouldn't look at it. And what I'm trying to say

1027
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,039
is that we should take these these things that are

1028
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:30,639
happening and look at them in a different way. So

1029
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,119
if you have to move the oscars to I don't know,

1030
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:35,559
to New York or whatever and create a benefit, do

1031
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,280
a benefit, do whatever, you know, like some sort of

1032
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,760
like we are the world again with everybody singing, why

1033
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,119
don't you do something similar? But you know, to come

1034
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,639
out and say, well, we should have let's stop, let's

1035
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,760
let's let's you know, let's let's stop spinning the world

1036
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,280
and and and and let's just you know, stop doing

1037
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,159
everything we're doing. And that's the end of it now,

1038
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:58,239
I mean, come up with the solution. Do something different.

1039
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,840
So yeah, you people have you know, if I can

1040
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,679
donate fifty dollars one hundred dollars, you can donate millions

1041
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:08,280
of dollars. So why don't you do that instead.

1042
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,079
Speaker 1: Or like I said, use these shows to raise money, yes, yeah, yes, exactly,

1043
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:18,920
for the victims, to for the firefighters, whatever. But canceling

1044
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,679
it all out right, I really don't see the point

1045
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,840
of it. And it's just going to hurt a lot

1046
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,079
of working class people who rely on the money that

1047
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:29,239
these shows generate. It'll make a lot of celebrities feel

1048
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,079
better about themselves, but ultimately I don't agree with the

1049
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:37,840
idea of canceling them. But we'll see, We'll see how

1050
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,599
this progresses over the next week or two. Hopefully these

1051
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:42,559
fires will be under control over the next week or

1052
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:45,320
two and we'll see so And.

1053
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,119
Speaker 2: It goes back to what I said about, you know,

1054
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,920
find a solution, find a way to make the thing

1055
00:53:51,199 --> 00:53:52,119
you know less horrible.

1056
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: Great, all right, let's take another sharp break and we'll

1057
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,840
be right back. We're back, and we're going to wrap

1058
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,719
this up with some thoughts on the Golden Globes. But

1059
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,480
before we do that, I just wanted to, you know,

1060
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,280
check in on what will likely be the biggest fashion

1061
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,239
story of next year. I don't know when it's happening,

1062
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,320
but Sendaia showed up at the Golden Globe sporting a

1063
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,960
diamond ring on her left hand, which got everyone buzzing.

1064
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,840
And then within a day it was confirmed that she

1065
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,400
and Tom Holland are engaged.

1066
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:25,679
Speaker 2: What I think, I'm matching tattoos?

1067
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: Did they? Yeah? That I didn't know they're doing so

1068
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,880
I and I skeated this out almost immediately, and I

1069
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,239
stand by this law roads Her stylist is gonna come

1070
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,079
into his glory on this one. Let me tell you,

1071
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,280
I can't wait to see what this is going.

1072
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 2: To be now, the Princess Diana that sort of moment before.

1073
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: We Yeah, I want to I want to sort of

1074
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,440
speculate about where she's going with this, but let's address something,

1075
00:54:56,039 --> 00:54:58,400
the idea that maybe this would be a private, small

1076
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,800
sort of thing. Well, here's the thing. They're one of

1077
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,559
those interesting couples. And when I say interesting, I'm like,

1078
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:07,639
good luck to you two where one of them is

1079
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:10,360
a big, big star and likes the spotlight and the

1080
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,639
other one is a big big star and hates the spotlight.

1081
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,559
Just a sort of exactly exactly, this is a Ben

1082
00:55:16,679 --> 00:55:21,039
and Jen kind of situation. However, they are much younger

1083
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:24,159
and a lot less better than those two middle stars,

1084
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,280
and they've been together a long time and I actually

1085
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,199
do think they're navigating their their stardom fairly smartly. But

1086
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,440
I do wonder. I'm like, traditionally those couples just don't.

1087
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,880
They don't. They don't last. The ones who love the

1088
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,480
spotlight marrying the ones who hate it. That's not a

1089
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:39,920
good time.

1090
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 2: I've seen many videos with her talking and give me interviews,

1091
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,000
and I have to say she is a pro man.

1092
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:49,599
She's so young, like she knows how to deal with

1093
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:52,320
the public and the press. Yeah, really really will.

1094
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: He's got a little bit of a chip on his

1095
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,480
shoulder when it comes to that stuff. So we'll see,

1096
00:55:57,519 --> 00:55:58,760
we'll see. Yeah.

1097
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to brush off the fact that he

1098
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,599
is very, very uncomfortable. Uh yeah, he can't deal with

1099
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:05,599
social media.

1100
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: And he recently said that he would when he has kids.

1101
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:08,400
He's just going to.

1102
00:56:08,519 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: Retire, which I don't believe, and live in a farm

1103
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,960
and would and rage she's not doing that. I don't

1104
00:56:15,079 --> 00:56:18,199
raising chickens a format.

1105
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: Ye your tread wife. But I don't think this will

1106
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,719
be a private affair at all. I really don't. I

1107
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,039
think maybe Tom will probably not be you know, put

1108
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:33,760
it this way, I don't think the wedding itself will

1109
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,599
be a public affair. I do think we're going to

1110
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:37,440
get a ship ton of pictures. Whether it's like a

1111
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,960
People exclusive or whether it's just on social media, We're

1112
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,760
going to see whatever elaborate nashion fantasy has been created

1113
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,440
for her, And I feel that it's more than likely

1114
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:51,880
she's going to have more than one ensemble. Like, I

1115
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,079
just don't think she's doing what She doesn't even go

1116
00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:56,280
to the met Gala in one dress. You think she's

1117
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,320
only going to wear one dress on her wedding day.

1118
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:03,239
So yeah, it'll be multiple outfit changes. So whether Tom

1119
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,440
likes it or not, yes, this will be on some

1120
00:57:05,519 --> 00:57:08,159
level public and elaborate that. I just don't see it

1121
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,760
any other way. With her in law roachs, there's no

1122
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,920
way to a beautiful dress. He's hitting fashion houses right

1123
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,119
now taking offers as to who wants to dress her

1124
00:57:20,119 --> 00:57:23,360
for her wedding. Now I want to speculate about the dress.

1125
00:57:23,519 --> 00:57:31,840
She and Law Roach are huge, huge aficionados of vintage

1126
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:36,639
iconic fashion, and they quite often pay tribute or use

1127
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,639
vintage looks just at the globes. Her mid century inspired

1128
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:44,400
look was inspired by a lot of black mid century

1129
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,719
artists like Diane Carroll Earth, the kit she has dressed.

1130
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,440
You know, she made our Best Dress list or our

1131
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:54,719
Favorite Red Carpet lists this past year for wearing a

1132
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:58,679
Bob Mackie dress as a share homoge and she's done

1133
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,760
several other homoses Diana Ross, that sort of thing, Beyonce.

1134
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:07,719
So I feel that they are likely. And because he likes,

1135
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,360
he likes you know, costumes and and and you know cosplay,

1136
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:14,639
like as they when they did the Challenges tour, it

1137
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,360
was all tennis balls and stuff. I have a feeling

1138
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,719
he's going to want to recreate some iconic look. I

1139
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,159
think so.

1140
00:58:21,239 --> 00:58:24,039
Speaker 2: I think I think they always go for for history

1141
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,880
and and moments and fashion and and that's gonna help,

1142
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:30,800
I think. So. I mean, like take Pris's Diane for example,

1143
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,159
you know the lace and white and all that. I'm

1144
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:35,679
not saying it's gonna RaSE yeah, yeah, oh my god,

1145
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,119
yes absolutely. I mean, I mean they're gonna go for

1146
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:42,480
for some big iconic web iconic and and yeah that

1147
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:43,679
represents something.

1148
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily think they would pick because I

1149
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,360
also threw out names like Elizabeth Taylor's wedding dresses and

1150
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,159
Audrey Hepburn's and and you know there's famous on screen

1151
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:57,599
wedding gowns that could be recreated. I do think all

1152
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:00,480
these names we're tossing out are white women, and uh,

1153
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,000
Zendaya and law Roach have not shied away from paying

1154
00:59:05,079 --> 00:59:09,000
tribute to various looks worn by white women. But I

1155
00:59:09,039 --> 00:59:11,239
wouldn't be surprised if they didn't turn to someone like

1156
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,880
I don't know Diana Ross's wedding gown when she married

1157
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,000
that Swiss business. Yeah, that sort of thing. But I

1158
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:20,239
do think it'll be interesting. I think we're looking at

1159
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:25,400
multiple dresses. I think we're looking at callbacks and recreations

1160
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,960
of iconic looks. Oh absolutely, I could be wrong.

1161
00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: Now there's gonna be a lot of research, you know,

1162
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:32,960
a lot of image paid to.

1163
00:59:33,239 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: Don't you think every label wants to dress her for

1164
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,039
Thish my god? Yes, and Laws in his glory because

1165
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:41,760
he got fucked over by the fashion industry and she

1166
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:45,079
is his, you know, his golden ticket, and he will

1167
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:47,679
use that to wield He has used it to wield Brower,

1168
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:49,400
which I don't blame him, but.

1169
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,159
Speaker 2: It'll be an incredible moment, of course.

1170
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,599
Speaker 1: Because I can't wait to see what she does.

1171
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 2: She she's phenomenal, She wears clothes like very few people

1172
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,000
I think, and she's going to be fin.

1173
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: All right, wrapping this up. What do you have to

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say about the Golden Globes yet?

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Speaker 2: The Golden Globes was very interesting. As you pointed out,

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the Golden Globes is sort of an international association. Correct

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that it has a foreign foreign Press foreign press what

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foreign press association?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they're going to celebrate and nominate international movies.

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Speaker 1: Still, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, My point is that it was it was nice

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surprise to see people like Demi Moore and the Fernanda

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tour is you know, win right, uh, you know, for

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for stuff that most people probably wouldn't. I mean, I

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say so much about Demi Moore, but for nondaturs, for example,

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with the movie I'm Still here. I mean, most people

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don't even know what I'm talking about right now, but

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maybe they do now. But my point is that there

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are so many interesting things out there, international things that

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people don't watch or see because they're so focused in Hollywood.

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So it's nice to shine a little light on, you know,

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on something that interesting, especially for under too ses. She's

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the daughter of a very very famous actor in Brazil.

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Speaker 1: And Brenanda, Montenegra.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for another Monta Negra.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: And she made a fantastic movie called Central Station about

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what I forget how many years ago, so.

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Speaker 1: Almost a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: And she was also nominated the movie one for Best Movie,

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Best Foreign Movie. I considered one of the best movies

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ever made. I adore Central Station. Uh is a phenomenon

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movie about this woman and and and it's sort of

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a journey of a woman, a bitter old woman and

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a young orphan boy.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They go on a journey uh to find his father.

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And it's just one of the most beautiful movies I've

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ever seen in my life. You've have a chance to check.

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It's called Central Station. And her mother was nominated for

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an Oscar. The movie won Best Foreign Movie or Golden

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I mean want a Golden Globe. So here we have

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her daughter, also very talented, winning a Golden Globe for

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her movie called I'm Still Here.

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Speaker 1: So it's huge.

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Speaker 2: That's all they talk about in Brazil and internationally. It

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was all over everywhere in Europe. Everyone was talking about

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it because it is a big thing.

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Speaker 1: It was a nice upset. I think she's now entered

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into the conversation about Best Actress nominees for the Oscars.

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So we'll see how that goes. Same thing. But to

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me more I think that propelled her to the top

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of the discussion about Best Actress. I'm not sure that

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the substance is the kind of thing the Academy will

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rally behind. On the other hand, that was a beautiful speech,

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and the Academy freaking loves I mean, look at someone

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like Jamie Lee Curtis or Keihoid kwand they love these

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comeback stories. They love these stories about old pros who

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are suddenly getting recognition. And she is navigating those waters

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extreme adeptly. Right, It's so I wouldn't count to me

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more out.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a beautiful it was a beautiful speech. You know,

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she talks about being called a popcorn actor, right, movie

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popcorn movie actor.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I'm very happy for her, But I don't think

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to me, Moore is a great actress.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was just about to say, I don't think

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she's the greatest actor. So maybe that's why she hasn't

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won anything before. But again, you have people like Amy

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Adams never waiting anything, and she's a great actor. Yeah,

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it's popular and of course wait it's coming. Gwyneth Paltrow

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has an oscar, so yeah, I mean, and you can say, well,

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who cares about nominations and Winnie, you know a trophy,

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It does matter your career changes, Yeah, you get more

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parts or not.

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Speaker 1: I think it's notable that Honora did not pick up anything,

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and I was surprised, making that film's prospects like a

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little questionable. The Saga word nominations came out, and then

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I think it's notable that Angela and Jelly was not

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nominated for Maria, and Nicole Kinman was not nominated for Girl,

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so those two are in a questionable I don't think

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Maria is likely to pick up anything. The only reason

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Baby Girl might still have legs is, first off, it

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has been picking up other awards, and she won the

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Vulpy Cup at Can the Best Actress Awards, so I

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don't think it's completely outside the realm. But I'm not

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an awards prognosticator. I dabble in it. But there are

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people who their whole job is to do this sort

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of thing. So take what we're saying here with.

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Speaker 2: The Green Sea, you never know when, especially with I

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think so you know, it's not the public nominating someone

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and voting for someone, it's their peers. So there's a

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lot of bias I think, still right, and PR machine

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behind it. I mean, you see, I mean if you

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read Fernanda Torris, she did a lot of of you know, press,

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she did a lot of stuff so that people would

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find out about the movie and know about the movie.

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The director of Alti Saliz did the same and they

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were all over you promoting this movie.

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Speaker 1: You have to promote the movies.

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Speaker 2: You have to talk about the movies again, otherwise nobody

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knows about the movie. That's how it works. So it's

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a lot of work to promote a movie. So sometimes

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the movie deserves that type of promotion and pr sometimes

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they don't, and and but people you know will vote

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for them. So that's why. You know, sometimes you think

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a movie or an actor deserves you know, but sometimes

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they don't. They just had very good, very good PR

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machine behind them.

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Speaker 1: Yes, anything else about the Gloves, No, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear the nominations for the Oscars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a couple a week or two before

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that happens. I will say.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they need more, will be nominated again, who knows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll say that's it for this week. We'll be

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back next week with whatever crosses are across our desks,

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and hopefully we won't have to record this at five

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thirty in the morning. Until then, take care of yourselves,

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love you mean it. Bye bye bye