Speaker 1: Years, I've been saying that calling Glaine Maxwell as socialite
in the legacy media is ridiculous, especially when you don't
go into context about what she is being accused of.
And the legacy media just continued and continued to call
her a socialite, never brought up the fact that she
was also accused of being involved in the actual abuse right. Instead,
we always got Jeffrey Epstein's Madam, Jeffrey Epstein's pimp socialite.
With that connotation, you are basically saying that these survivors
were prostitutes. And I've been bringing it up for quite
some time because isn't it the media that tells us
words matter? And then they have the audacity to hop
on to their computers or whatever it is they're pumping
their content out from and start yapping away about how
Gala Maxwell is a socialite. No, she's not a socialite.
She's a child abuser, a sex trafficker, a general all
around scuzbag, and quite possibly a bipedal serpent. So now
that she has been convicted, one of the first things
I tweeted out was that it's time for the legacy
media to start calling her what she is, and that
is not a socialite. Well, there's an article out today
from The Guardian and the author of that article, Joan Smith,
is picking up the rally and cry and she's saying
the same exact thing. Let's call Maxwell what she is,
a sex trafficker. And I'm very thankful that somebody like
Joan Smith is uh, you know, smelling the coffee if
you will. It's long time coming for the legacy media
to call these people what they are. And when you
talk about Les Wexner, he should also be talked about
in the same kind of light. Less Wexner, Victoria's secret founder.
No Less Wexner accused friend of Jeffrey Epstein, enabler of
Jeffrey Epstein, and accused of taking part in his sex
trafficking ring. How hard is that to put that down
in the newspaper? What are you all scared? I mean,
it's illogical almost that the legacy media was so gung
ho on calling this lady as socialite for so long,
even though there were mountains of evidence. Now, don't get
me wrong, there were some people in the print media
who called out Glen's nonsense for the whole entire run.
There were some people in the print media who were
I'm buying any of her bullshit. And one of those
outlets that has done a very good job throughout this
whole entire thing, even though I might not agree with
a lot of their positions on other topics, is The
Daily Beast. They did a fantastic job covering this as
far as the print media goes, and they have done
a phenomenal job of framing Glaine Maxwell as what she
is now there have been plenty of other outlets that
have refused to do it. Moving forward, I'm very interested
to see which ones of these outlets actually fall in
line here and call her what she is and not
a socialite, because again, it matters right when you're talking
about Glaine Maxwell. The way the legacy media has leading
up to all of this, they would frame it like
she was just some socialite or that this was some
kind of madam situation where she was just providing prostitutes
for Jeffrey Epstein. That's the way the legacy media framed
it for a very long time. And then you wonder
why people had no idea the true scope of what
was going on here. You wonder why I'm getting emails
at every single day from people who had no clue
the true scope, and it all goes back to the
legacy media not doing their job. And I know I
got rant about that here on the podcast, but it's
very important that you all understand that the legacy media,
this version of it anyway, is not there as an
ally for us, the people. Right the fourth Estate is
always supposed to be a bulwark between us and the
most powerful. They're the ones that are supposed to be
holding these people are responsible, not independent content creators who
are doing it out of their own pocket. Instead, the
legacy media would much rather yap about how your cousin
Tom hates you because he voted for Joe Biden, or
your mom is some crazy racist because she voted for
insert politician here. That's crazy stuff to me. Okay, the
legacy media gaslight everybody, getting everybody wound up with their
rage porn about how everybody should hate each other. Meanwhile,
they're not breaking it down, they're not giving you the details,
and they're not informing you of the real issues at hand,
such as Jeffrey Epstein, Glaine Maxwell, and the true scope
of what they were up to. The good news is
people are starting to wake up and just take a
look at how popular a lot of independent content creators
and investigative journalists have become as opposed to the legacy media.
I mean, they have no one to blame but themselves either.
By the way, all of these pearl clutching blue check
marks on Twitter and elsewhere who get up there and
preach down to everybody else well at the same time
providing cover for people like Epstein and Maxwell. So it's
about time that we stop calling Glaine max Well a socialite,
and it's time that we start calling her what she is,
a sex trafficker and a child abuser. And the author
of this article from the Guardian is doing exactly that.
This article is from the Guardian and the author is
Joan Smith. For years she was described as a socialite,
a word that conceals more than it explains. Socialites are
almost always women from a wealthy, if not aristocratic background,
and they're defining characteristic. Characteristic is being photographed with famous people.
Imagine these socialites and I'm using air quotes come from
some of the most powerful families in the world, scions
in the world of business and politics, and you name it.
And what are they known for? What do they use
their great power, their great influence. They're great well for
to become more famous, to get in more pictures, to
extend their social worth. Meanwhile, have any of you taken
a ride down a major thoroughfare in any major city
around the country and seen the absolute abject poverty that
these people are living in. Meanwhile, we have a socialite
class in this country who are basically getting paid millions
and millions of dollars to get picture to take pictures
places with people. And these are the people that others
are looking up to. Sorry, not me. I think all
of these people are weird. I think the whole entire
so called polite society is corrupt and polluted, and anyone
who's aspiring to be a quote unquote socialite should probably
have their brains checked. Glenn Maxwell fitted the bill, appearing
in photos with everyone from Donald Trump to Elon Musk
to Prince Andrew. But being a socialite is not a job,
and it was unclear how she financed her opulent lifestyle,
especially after the death of her father, Robert. Eh. It's
no shock to me. We all know the deal. She
was set up with Jeffrey Epstein for this express purpose,
for them to work hand in hand to provide compromise. Again,
the legacy media refuses to touch that, right. They refuse
to really go down the real rabbit holes that matter.
And for me, I'll just let my work speak for itself.
We're going on three years here now with over fifteen
hundred episodes in the catalog, and the proof is in
the pudding. The question is when's the legacy media going
to catch up to catch up to us about this.
It took them forever to catch up about a bunch
of other things, so I'm guessing it's going to take
forever for them to catch up here as well, because
they've been lapped right the stuff. The legacy media is
all shocked about things. People were Oh wow, I had
no idea about stuff we've been talking about for three years.
And I don't just mean me. I'm talking about people
who have been following this case closely. And when it
comes to Glene Maxwell's lifestyle and the way she got
her money, it's very obvious how she got her money.
She was working hand in hand with Jeffrey Epstein. He
was engaging in all kinds of financial malfeasance all over
the globe, and at the same time, Maxwell's role within
the enterprise was bringing her in a bunch of bucks
as well. So she wasn't a socialite as far as say,
like a Paris Hilton, right, somebody who's just going around
taking pictures, getting drunk and acting the fool. That wasn't
what Maxwell was doing. She was opening doors for Jeffrey
Epstein that would have never been opened for him. And
that all goes back to her upbringing generational wealth the
Old Boys Club of England, if you will. Over recent weeks,
during her trial on sex trafficking chart in a New
York courtroom, the answer became clear. Maxwell's wealth came from
her erstwhile boyfriend, See they still don't get it right,
from her business partner and partner in crime, Jeffrey Epstein,
who gave her at least thirty point seven million over
a period of eight years. Way more than that, folks. Now,
can I prove that to you with receipts? I can't, Okay,
But when you look at the hustle Epstein was up
to in the Virgin Islands and elsewhere, the gratz hustle,
the every other kind of IPO hustle, you can imagine
every kind of money stash. You can imagine it was
all occurring offshore. And I have a hard time believing
that the only money Jeffrey Epstein or Galayan Maxwell had
is what they told the federal government that they were holding.
You mean to tell me they didn't have a bag
in reserve, Stop it. These people always have a bag
in reserve all accounts. Maxwell went from being in love
with him to discovering that her usefulness lay elsewhere in
providing a steady stream of young girls to satisfy his
depraved sexual appetite. And this again is where they missed
the point. They get a little bit of it right,
But it wasn't just his sexual appetite that was being
addressed here. His proclivities were perfect for the intelligence services.
This is exactly what the intelligence services love. A guy
like Epstein in the financial sector who has proclivities such
as his. Get that guys involved in your schemes and
your plots and your honeypot operation and forget it. The
sky is the limit as we have seen here. And
for those of you who think that, come on, the
government will never be in bed with a guy like
Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, just off the top of my head.
A couple of people here that the government's been in
bed with in the past. Whitey Bulger, Sammy the Bulgravano,
both men burial killers, both men absolute murderers and scumbags,
and the government had no problem getting in bed with
them because the means justified the end. And if you
think the same didn't happen with Jeffrey Epstein, I don't
know what to tell you at this point. I know
we have certain people out there. Oh there's no intelligence
ties with Jeffrey Epstein, that's absurd. Those are the very
same people, folks, remember that were probably pitching you that
the weapons of mass destruction lion Iraq was right and
that the whole entire Russia Russia fiasco was legit. It's
all bs in political theater with these people. The girls
trusted her, thinking of her as an older sister, and
only realized later that they had been betrayed. The socialite,
co conspirator, general all around scuzbag, convicted sex trafficker, child
abuser was actually a procure a word with deservedly unpleasant connotations.
You see, she was more than that. As much as
I appreciate the author here, Joan Smith taking up the
mantle and talking about how she's not a socialite. Again,
she doesn't go far enough. Again, she's watching her words.
You notice they never watch their words when they're attacking
their political opponents. However, right it does not sit easily
with Maxwell's glamorous lifestyle, the planes, helicopters, and visits to
Epstein's private islands. Many well known people will surely be
regretting that they ever moved in the same circles as
Maxwell and Epstein, let alone appear in the aircraft logs
revealed in court. Indeed, Maxwell's conviction last week on five
charges seems to have created a kind of cognitive dissonance
in some circles, as those such things simply should not
happen to a woman with a degree from balliol I
mean again, this is the perception have of the so
called elite, and that's a perception that they have fostered
for years and years and years. But those of us
who know the deal, we understand that the so called elite,
they're more depraved than just about anybody else. I don't
care where you have your degree from, I don't care
what kind of charitable work you have done. If you're
running around with Jeffrey Epstein, Gallainne Maxwell and the rest
of them, You, my friend, are on the list as
a piece of shit. Well connected individuals who rarely display
an interest in America American penal policy have complained bitterly
about Maxwell's prison conditions, as though she is in a
different class from other inmates. See this is what I've
been talking about this for a while. Anyone who knows
people who have been to prison, anyone who has loved
ones who have been to prison, understand right away that
all of Maxwell's bullshit was exactly that bullshit. She wasn't
treated no different than anybody else, and she does not
want to be on the main line. And then all
of a sudden, all of these so called elite, all
of these people who were in Maxwell's circle or Epstein's circle,
whatever you want to call it, all of these people
all of a sudden care about how jail reforms going
or what's going on in the prison systems in the
United States. But the thing is, where were they before
Maxwell was arrested? Where were they when people like Khalif
Browder were rotting away in prison. Siblings have rallied around
insisting that they cannot accept the Jerry's guilty verdicts, although
that seems to be more of an expression of denial
than in any real expectation that she will win an appeal. Well,
you can't expect them to say anything else, right, there's
no way that she's winning any appeal, Folks. I don't
buy it zero chance. Just like I didn't think she'd
win her trial, I don't think she'll win any kind
of appeal here. She was not treated any differently, she
was not treated wrongly, and to be honest with you,
she got more of a fair shake than just about
anybody else. We know from rape chials that the public
imagination struggles to accommodate to individuals who challenge stereotypes about
sex offenders, whether it is the good looking date who
turns out to be a rapist or the socialite who
facilitates a pedophile. It's easier to believe terrible things about
Rosemary West, a don't be working class woman who helped
lure girls into her husband's car and joined in his
abuse of them, than an heiress who once rested her
boot on the thigh of an entranced Boris Johnson. See
for me, it's not and I hope that that's one
thing that all of you folks take from this podcast.
If you take nothing else from it, please take this.
Those who would rule over you despise you. Those who
would rule over you are not these great people. And
when I think about people like this, I don't think
about working class people. I think about people like Maxwell
and Epstein and John Luke Brunel and Darren Hindyke and
the rest of them. Fred and Rose West committed horrific
crimes together, torturing their victims as well as killing them.
But Fred West was already a murderer when he chose
fifteen year old Rosemary Letts, who had a horrendous history
of child sexual abuse, as his accomplice. Yeah, well that's
all fine and well, but Maxwell doesn't have that to
fall back on, that kind of armor to wrap herself in.
She was from great privilege, she was born into the
Maxwell family. You want to talk about having money, talk
about having dough and power and reach. It doesn't get
much more elite than that. So any kind of position
that's being taken that Maxwell's any kind ofvictim, or that
she couldn't stop Jeffrey Epstein if she wanted to is
bullshit in my opinion. She could have stopped him, she
could have rated on him, she could have went to
the authorities. Instead, she continued to do it with them
and continue to benefit from it. Predators have a sixth
sense when it comes to choosing co conspirators. Maxwell was
a grown woman when she met Epstein and fully responsible
for the choices she would go on to make. But
it is striking that their relationship seems to have begun
around the time of her father's fatal fall from the
yacht to be named after her, the Lady Golaine. That's
bs as well. Again the legacy media not knowing what
they're talking about, and with all respect to Joan Smith,
she could probably do with listening to the podcast for
a little while before her next article, because this has
nothing to do with that. Maxwell was never a victim.
Maxwell and Epstein met before Maxwell's dad died, in fact,
and the whole entire thing was a plot set up
for them to work in conjunction with each other. It's
no excuse to say that the discovery that her father
was a fraudster so soon after his death would have
shaken Maxwell to her foundations. But it may be that
Epstein recognized her weaknesses, seized his chance, and got access
to an address book that included the Queen's favorite son,
the Duke of York. Again, sorry, Joan Smith, that's not
gonna work, all right, your underhanded protection of Maxwell, You're
not gonna go over so well. She's a scumback. She
was not manipulated, She was very educated. At any time
she could have bounced. At any time, she could have
rated Jeffrey Epstein out, she chose not to. She chose
not to, and now it's time to reap the storm.
Maxwell's connections boosted his sense of an punity, which is
perhaps the single most important factor in allowing predators to
get away with their crimes. He would later describe Maxwell
in humiliating terms as an ex girlfriend who had fallen
on hard times, framing himself as the benefactor who had
allowed her to live the style to which she had
become accustomed. Again, all part of the plan, all part
of the plot. I urge you to watch the show
Americans if you want to see a better explanation of
how these kinds of people who work in the world
of spycraft or who are assets, how they conduct themselves.
They'll set it up as if there's a married couple
with kids, the whole thing, and it's all a plot.
That's how the intelligent services work. I know a lot
of us don't want to think about the intelligent services
too deeply because it's terrifying. But I'm here to tell
you everything that Edward Snowden was telling you, folks. He
wasn't lying, And Julian Assange he wasn't lying either. There's
a rea that the American government wants him so bad, folks.
The mystery surrounding the source of Epstein's wealth has led
to comparisons with Jay Gatsby, the enigmatic main character in
Scott Fitzgerald's novel, But such mythology lends a suspicious glamour
to assorted crimes. No, none of that either, folks. I
don't know who's calling him the great Gatsby, More like
the great Ratsby, more like the great Moron. The dude
was getting his money because he knew the hustle, he
knew the gratz hustle. He was getting IPOs from Goldman Sachs,
and he was on the team. Right when you're on
the team, you get the hookup, folks, You got the
gratz hustle going on, where you're basically guaranteed a buyback
of the stock purchases you make by the bank. It's
all a hustle for rich people to get richer. And
I've been talking about this for three years now. The
financial angle of this crime is never discus enough, and
nobody really dives in hard enough. It is a depressing
fact that women who identify with powerful men often share
their misogyny and reflect it back in a desperate quest
for approval. Profiles of Epstein remarked on the disturbing fact
that his homes were full of teenage girls. They're nothing,
these girls. Maxwell once told a confidant. They are trash.
And that's how Maxwell and Epstein thought about all of us,
not just the girls. We're all, pleads to them, folks,
our robber baron class, meaning our political class, and people
like Epstein and Maxwell. If you only understood the low
opinion they had of you, you would never ever again
carry water for these pieces of shit. You would never
ever again get on Twitter and talk shit about this
or that or the other thing, because in reality, the
real enemy, the real issue at hand, folks, are these
kinds of people. Maxwell Epstein and their friends. It's not
your uncle, it's not your aunt, it's not your friend
from high school. It must have occurred to Maxwell by
now that the two men she put absolute faith in,
her father and or ex lover, both left her to
face the music after their apparent suicides, and for what.
The columnist Barbara Amiel, who was married to the former
newspaper magnet Conrad Black, recalls a conversation that shows Maxwell
in an unexpected and highly unflattering light. I bet I'm
in charge of more laboratories and bathrooms than you are,
Maxwell suddenly said, as the two women were walking along
the beach. While Amiel thought about it, Maxwell reminded her
to include those on planes. Thirty nine, said Amiel, and
Maxwell's face lit up. I win, she exclaimed. Uh, well,
I don't even understand that line of thinking. I mean,
imagine being so rich or whatever that you're arguing about
who has more bathrooms under your thumb sounds like a
great argument to have. Questions about Maxwell's relationship with Epstein
have now been cleared up. She procured girls for him,
and it speaks volumes about our moral compass or lack
of it, that she evidently cared more about the number
of laboratories in his mansions than the vulnerable teenagers she
exposed to sexual assault and rape. Well, not only that,
not only that, she exposed that she took part in
Miss Smith, that she helped, that she had literally hands
on So when we talk about Maxwell, we need to
remember that as well. She's not just some procure. She's
not a madam, she's not a pimp. Okay, she is
a child abuser, a sex trafficker, and a scummy, pitiful
excuse for a human being. All Right, folks, that's gonna
wrap it up for this morning. Now. I'll be back
later on, obviously with more context episodes, and we'll see
about later on tonight. We might do a nighttime episode
tonight nighttime update. I have a couple of articles I
want to get to. But starting tomorrow, we're gonna be
hitting the ground running, folks. We'll be here every day.
We'll be back on Beyond the Horizon every day, and
uh yeah, we're gonna keep the story going because there
is a lot to get to, so help all of
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