Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show here at Gie Versus. I'm your host
still most night with me, the clown Prince of podcasting, Travis. Now,
how's it going?
Speaker 2: Not too bad? I really can't, Like we have some topics,
but I didn't. There's nothing to go and flowing through
the brain. So I was like, you know what, probably
still suffering from the effects of the twenty four Hours Dream,
so I'll, yeah, just go throw on the pride and
classic clown prints of podcast ring about me, Batman or
DC related things, but just to go to But I'm
doing well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always a bit of mental damage that is done.
Oh yeah from the twenty four Hours Dream. It takes
a couple of days to bounce back. But big thank
you to everyone who tuned in or who you know,
out it out on social media or donated, because yeah,
we did our what it was the seventh or eighth,
eighth year, sixty year and eighth year. Yeah, that's so
crazy to me. We've been doing it for that long,
but yeah, it was so much fun to do that
against So yeah, thank you, A huge shout to everyone there.
That was such a great time. That's what we're talking
about a little bit today is just some of the
highlights from the games that we played on that stream,
of course, and then just some other games we've been playing,
a couple of news bits, so it should be a fun,
kind of more laid back mental damage episode.
Speaker 2: Of yeah, just hanging out and chilling something.
Speaker 1: Bounce back episode. Uh yeah, So let's just let's get
ready to do it. I want to talk just some
highlights from the stream, some games we played, and I
think starting with maybe just shouting out Marvel verst Capcom. Yes, God,
what the heck is the full title this game? Marvel
versus Capcom Arcade Classics Collection, Volume one something like.
Speaker 2: I think it's it might technically just be called because
there is another one. A.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did another another one, I believe, like maybe
before or announced the second one that has a different games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's problems. There's a lot of other collections. Okay,
so it's Marvel versus Capcom Fighting Collection Arcade. Hang on,
I'm gonna get the full print Arcade Classics. So really
you probably could just take I feel like you'd see
the artwork and you could take off the Arcade Classics
And no, that's what it is. But yeah, that's that
is a mouthful of a title.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but so this game came out in US.
I think early September was when it finally came out.
And yeah, this is this is a collection of I think,
what is it eight games, mostly Marvel Verus Capcom, but
then also like Marvel Vers Street Fighter and other X
Men fighting games, the Children of the so a bunch
of different old Marvel and Capcom games kind of thrown
into a bundle there. And yeah, this is a game
that I was very close to buying on multiple occasions
just watching like it's not really a series I've ever played,
like any of these games, so that's why I wanted
to check it out. The art style is so great
and just seemed like a lot of fun, and so
I'm glad that we finally got to the chance to
kind of play it on the stream. And I feel
like we at least booted up every one of the
games in the collection on the stream. Maybe we skipped
one of the fighting games or something, but we kind
of rolled that into our fighting game tournament, which never
really saw a conclusion. We started it with Marvelous, Capcom
and then we had multi Versus and then smashed. We
just did some fun TV two's Mortal Kombat. I guess
we did the Mortal Kombat part as well, but yeah,
it kind of trailed off, but it was fun to
jump into that collection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a messy stream year because
we had other things planned. We had twistered and that
didn't go. We had trades and then some people couldn't
make it. But funny enough, like I think it went well.
And yeah, we played that game I think for about
two hours because I had only clocked in in like
a couple round, Like I had played one round and
the girls played a couple so when I saw the playtime,
I saw two hours. We played that for about two hours.
And yeah, I wasn't sure because I'm not the biggest
fighting game guy. I don't know how much of it
I'm gonna go back to play like over and over.
But at least because I had said this on the discourse,
I guess and the stream if you hadn't watched all
update here that the girls had been playing it and
they had lots of fun. Then even tonight they're asked
while playing in the fighting game, which is it's kind
of like a good basic one because like even the
special tax it's like I could teach them the X movies, like, hey,
you just hit this, you know. Butnd in the left
there with we we joke about all the time, right
whenever we play Moral Kombat, it's like, we just wish
you would have an easy fatality. And then Kirklin informed us, oh,
some of these do you just have to pay for them,
which is just like the ridiculous thing. But I've I've
even thought that since I was a kid of I
love these fatality It's so cool animation, so much thought
put in, and I get it. But I always think
like there should be like a Moral Kombat for dummies mode,
you know, where it's just like, yeah, you hit X
and it does it for you when you get them
in that state. So that's the one thing about this
game where it's definitely Arcadie, but for them it's like
a good pickup because like you're just using the color
buttons or the you know, the shape buttons and then
it's the triggers, so it's it. For them. It's been
pretty fun and no, like I think it's one that
I guid I don't know how much I'll play I
had a good time. I think we all agreed that.
I think the highlight of it is probably like the
art style. I think it's just such a.
Speaker 1: Cool, so so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's colorful. It's that perfect combo of it's updated
and looks you know, new and fresh coat of paint.
Not like that sometimes when they remaster game and you
get it, it's like, oh, this is looking real rough.
But this looks nice but still has that old school feel.
And uh, I think we had lots of fun the stream.
So I think it's a game that I could see
nexture being brought out again, because that's a that's a
very easy because like we moral call him back Kirkland destroyed.
I think I got like one win over Kirkland, but
then he turned it on, Like that's a one where
it's like, okay, but this is that's a game, like
I'm sure you can master it, but there's some characters
and situations that are just so cheesy. It does feel like, Okay,
this is kind of anyone's ball game here, and it
was fun and uh, Punisher was fun for what it was.
You know, I said this before I could be wrong
because we would be the game that's gonna say yeah,
for eight years. I could be wrong, but I don't
think we've ever been a game live. During Extra Life,
we beat Marvel Atimpalliance three when we did a stream
for it, but I don't know if we've ever been
a game so that it was fun, and if you'll
listen to the X Men retro, we got to see
bone Breakers, so like, yeah, it ended up being fun
for what we were using. You know, it ended up
being a good time there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely, Yeah, It's I've talked about this before
on Sideqwuister Geek vers in general that man fighting games
like traditional two D fighters is like my one I
feel like it's like my one gaming genre that I
just don't have any touch points to where I've played
a bunch of these games but never really fallen in
love with one of them. Eyven other genres like like
beat them ups like Punisher game, like, that's also a
genre that I've not really loved much. But then you
know that Team and tea game I thought was great,
and so there are some places where I can find
some joy with fighting games. I kind of separate the
platform fighters like Smash and multiverses and stuff because they
do feel very different to me, and but so it
has been fun, especially in the last few years. Like
we played a lot of Morble Kombat last year on
the stream, then brought it out again this year, which
was really fun to kind of get into and like
learn a bit more about it. Yeah, but it's it's cool,
just like because I've never I don't think I've ever
played a Marble overs cap game in my life. Somehow
maybe at Scandia if they have one there, like put
in a couple of quarters or something like that, a
couple of tokens. But yeah, like just the absurdity of
it was really hard for me to get used to
because it's just so crazy, Like there are certain characters
like Iceman with his like insane hip boxes. He spawns
like a snowball from the sky. Yes, it's like the
hip box is huge. There's like no there's like no
man of bar seems like you can just spam it forever.
I'm like, I have no idea how you're supposed to
deal with this. We eventually just designed it as a
group like Iceman's band, like we can't allow him in here.
But then even like having a Juggernaut as like the
backup fighter, and he just has such huge He has
a huge body, obviously, his fists are the size of
some characters, and he just flies across the screen, and
that seemingly you can just kind of spam that I
could not. I cannot mash my way through a fighting game.
I seem to always lose when I do that, whereas
other people can sometimes have success. But it was it
was very fun, and yeah, it is one I'd like
to if we do it again extreme, I'd probably like
maybe watch a couple of videos of like tmorials or something,
or even just like one character figure out how they play,
or even if I just read some of the rules.
I didn't look at the controls at all when we
were playing, so that was part of it. But yeah,
I did find it really hard to parts compared to
some other fighting games, like even just compared to Mortal Kombat,
which like is a little bit slower pace and then
moves quite as you know. They're not like the whole screen,
whereas sometimes of this game you just use Storm's powers
and it just electrocutes the whole map. It's insane, very
city game like that.
Speaker 2: It feels like for most of them, there's a couple,
but most of them the matches can be over very quickly,
like at least with Moral Kombat, even back in day,
but especially and Net. We're comparing old games and new games,
but just even how fighting games have evolved. Usually you
get some sort of okay players doing poorly. Here you go.
But we found the two things. Of one, you could
win very easily without even though doing your special move,
like if you get the right situation, hit a bunch
of moves quickly, they got them in two. It was
like your special meter, or they had like an Infiniti
meter that was something more based on your hits, not
even like okay, the person in you know, second place,
we're gonna give them a little special tack to kind
of even the odds. So that's how you could lose this.
You'd begin your butt kicked and then there's special meters
filled up and it's just you're over. Like there's one
match I had with Kirkland I think I'm not even
joke more. I think it had to be on her
twenty five seconds, like I was Wolverine. I remember just
getting up and he's like, oh, that's it, like it
was done. Obviously it's a three round system, but some
of those matches went by very quick, so the momentum
can shift very fast, and like you're saying, a Juggernaut
and Icebant, it feels like and like you said, I'd
have to watch or play more, but I just wonder
because of how dated it is. It just feels like
there's no rhyme or reason with some of these choices,
and that kind of has like some like like that
kind of is like the specialty of it, where yeah,
with Iceman, some of these tacks like how do you
block this? Taylor kind of found some way to eventually,
like you know, use a shield, but he's still taking damage.
He can only do that so much. The Juggernaut size
proportion is crazy, like he is a massive, massive man
and what are you supposed to do with that? So
it was it was a it's interesting and just even
stuff like you're talking about, it's like a snapshot of
the era. Like having Blackhart in every game was such
a weird.
Speaker 1: Shoster for a while, the Spirals in multiple of these games, Yeah.
Speaker 2: War Machine big thing and yeah it.
Speaker 1: Was like a shoot Shu McGrath, who's in like multiple
of these as well, who I thought was a Capcom character,
but then he was in a Marvel game, so I
guess he is a Marvel character. There was a few
of those. They're like, man, it's a really fun snapshot
you have the era. I got to see like the
wacky rosters that they put in here along with you know,
of course Bidy and like whole crawl over the place,
but then you had to have those freaks in there,
and when there's only like an eight man roster.
Speaker 2: As well, even having Juggernaut, Like I get why he's big,
but I feel like that literally it's just like, well,
we need a really big guy, and like I love Juggernaut.
But you would think there's like other X Men. There's
because in the multiple versions of games, there's some games
where Cyclops is on the cover. He's not even in
some of the games. I can't even remember if he's
even in the X Men game. He might be, but there's.
Speaker 1: Somebody remember him being in one game. And that was
the one the one had just like a massive roster, yeah,
which was very cool.
Speaker 2: It was what was the NVC two was And that.
Speaker 1: Was, oh yeah, that game's roster is great.
Speaker 2: That was all that felt like the and it's funny
because all the fighting games they're similar, but they have
like little variations, whether it's characters or like Marvel superheroes,
like in Fiddy Stones dropped from the sky and I
felt like.
Speaker 1: That was such a cool mechanic. I really liked that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like it would almost only work
fifty percent of the time because I feel like you'd
hit that left trigger game For me, sometimes it's instant
charge of good to go, and I'm not sure if
it's supposed to be like a maybe three to five
seconds without getting hand doing it. I don't know, but
it's funny that that's why the Marlverlus CAPCN too. It
feels like they're kind of smashed altimate of that air
of like every characters and all those other fighting games
is there. We got other mechanics and even just like
very you know smash like Immortal Kombat does this too.
But it was so cool to see the alternate variants
and the costumes they have, like getting a pink omega red.
It was like, oh, this this is very cool. So
it was fun. The only thing I'd say, if anyone
is singing about getting this and you know, maybe during Christmas,
might draw just be aware. Luckily Dylan did some research.
The menu is awful, complete awful, and it's just crazy.
Like I get it's remasters some things that are older,
but just even the way you would boot up, there's
multiple times where we'd boot up and it would not
be like, oh, just butterfingers. It happened to Taylor, it
happened to me playing The Girls. They will just assign
you O character and you just go Unluckily we just
go okay, whatever, well have some fun but or stuff
like I can't remember which game it was. I think
it was Marvel Superheroes Mede where I was selected my
character and it selected doctor Doom, who wasn't even on
the wrong.
Speaker 1: Not even on the screen. That was insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it feels like maybe these were bugs that happened.
Maybe they thought that was like, oh, this is kind
of some love letter to the bugs that would happen
in o Arcade games. But to a point like that
you had to quick say load up every time. Very annoying,
which I'm happy I know because now I play the Girls.
That was the most frustrating thing of every time they
finished the match and go all the way back and
start over, so I would dock it may like a
few points because the menu was just awful for all
of it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's kind of insane how bad it is.
And there is that like small workaround, but even then
that's not great because you have to like reset it
per game within the collection, so you can't even just
set like that save point. And it's so weird that
you start a match, you fight your friend, and then
you progress through the campaign afterwards. It's funny, I was
like when I was looking it up a little bit,
like there have been so many rereleases of some of
these games, especially more like Marvelous Capcom and one and
two because those are really storied. Maybe not so much,
or some of these like Niche x Men games, but
some of the remasters or remakes or even just re
releases of those games have had like a traditional character
seleg screen, like traditional battles where you go back into
your lobby against your friend, you pick your new character,
and so it's interesting like when they choose to do
one of these remasters, sometimes they half asset. Sometimes they
go like all the way to make that stuff like
more modern what people expect. But it was it was
shocking too.
Speaker 2: This was more than half.
Speaker 1: The weirdest thing is like I listened to multiple podcast
reviews of people playing that game, Like no one mentioned that,
so I don't know, maybe, like to me, that's at
all of us. It seems so weird and backwards and
like inexcusable, but like I didn't hear anyone else talk
about it. Maybe they're just distracted by how much they
like the single player, or or maybe or by how
much like the games, or maybe they're just playing a
lot of single player and weren't really noticing that kind
of thing. Yeah, it's pretty pretty crazy to go back
and see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it led to some fun stuff and I'm
glad I go get got overallously, it's like a cheaper
game too, It's like sixty bucks, like an old school game.
Speaker 1: So definitely think that'll be a yearly one. That in
the way that I feel like Mortal Kombat tw years
in a row and I want to keep that going.
Smash Ultimate always makes an appearance. Yeah, I feel like
that one as well, Like just boot it up for
a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good boot up when hey this isn't working,
we're figuring out what's going on, Okay, we need you
need that rotation of boot up games.
Speaker 1: So and it's fun to do like best of threes
against people across different games, yes, in a collection makes
it pretty pretty wild, but very fun. I think. The
other big highlight for me on the stream game wise
was WWE two K twenty four, which was which was
really fun, and there's there was kind of two bouts
of this that showed up on the stream. The first
was like just playing I guess just like the standard mode,
like a versus match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the wrestling portion because everyone was eating. Everyone's eating,
So at one point it was just me on the stream,
so like, okay, well classic trast and I'll pull some
wrestling right now.
Speaker 1: But I got download it. What's good to go? And yeah,
I just playing like different battles, whether it was the
two v twov two ladder match that we did or
just I guess it was a it was a four
man free for all. I forget what the six man
the six men, right, but yeah, it was like that
part of it was was a pretty fun. I mean,
there's more highlight that happened later on in the stream
for me, Yeah, but that that section was really fun.
I just like how like it is very janky intentionally
to some extent, but just like the whole mechanic of
the ladder match made for like such a fun video
game thing. And I feel like half the time, like
the control that I'm trying to do is not what
my character does. Like I'm trying to just leave the
ring and then he'll climb up on the edge and
like jump off, or anytime gets hitty rolls out of
the room, I'm like, no, stop it. And it's frustrating,
but it adds to, you know, the very entertainment value
of it, like the scripted nonsense. It feels like to
some extent there are things that you can't control. You
just have to go with the flow. But yeah, that
was that part of it. I'm surprised how much I
liked that part of the game. I thought that was
a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun to actually play it because, as
I said on the stream, I'd actually never played the
wrestling portion of the game. I just got it for
the GM mode, which I'm sure we'll talk about. But yeah,
it's interesting because I remember it was a couple of
years ago where it was off. It was it was
like in the middle. It was in Your Baby. I
can't remember why. I think we're doing other Gauntlet stuff
back in the day, and it was just on my
PlayStation Xbox. I remember Briggs. Maybe it was on an
early charity stream, but it was Briggs and Kirk when
at some point they had a lot of actions and
it was like one of the funnest things I ever
say anything like this weekend and I remember the goal.
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna put this in there. And
I remember when I put it on a stand of
Kurkle and it was like the most nothing boring like
Kirkland just Beata, very easier, like oh that didn't work out.
So it's like it's that that sweet spot of sometimes
the rain ingredients happens when it's like okay, there's just
like in Sandy that goes on. It was funny with
Kyle and there and Sarah's was having a good time watching.
So uh yeah, though there's some hyjenks and also, like
you said, the controls, it's tough, like you do have
that bun the R three butN where you can change people,
but it's tough because if you get bumped into somebody,
your you know, the computer in your character's brain is
like locking onto them and it's the positioning is is
very tough. It's funny that the stream like muscle memory games,
that's a game for me that has that, except for
like the few things they change, but I always remember, Okay,
what's it like to run? Climb a rope and stuff?
But it took us I think about a good fifteen
minutes to figure out how to climb the ladder and
take it down for some reason, who.
Speaker 1: I know how to attack someone on the ladder and yeah,
do the thing you wanted to do.
Speaker 2: I don't know why because he had washed it. But
I don't think we've play an extensive amount of game
time together. Kyle was figuring out these things before me,
and I was like, I had to ask, like, how'd
you pick it up? How'd you do this? Because he
was climbing, And luckily he was a man of honor
and told me because at first when I asked, I
could see you and look in his eyes. He's like,
I don't know, I want to tell you, but uh no,
I'm glad it ended up being something entertaining.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like the ladder part of it
was funny because the whole mechanicron is that is that
around that is abe to climb the ladder, and then
there's like this timing mini game that you got to
do and it like brings up this wheel and there's
like six spokes on the wheel that you got to
fill out. But like that is a collective thing, even
though you're all on different teams. So at the very end,
I was able to sneak in there and just get
the last one. And since I was the last one,
it would like run to the w And I remember
that happened like man years ago. This wasn't a stream
and we were just playing a WWE game at your house,
like I think like three or four houses ago, like
very long time ago. And I remember winning a match
because like I forget if I was playing against you
or Taylor someone, but just like they left, they just
went slightly outside the bounds of the map and then
like got dequed for the game. Like that was the
w So yeah, it's like a very goofy game, which
is obviously very I feel like true to too wrestling. Yes,
so it feels very accurate in that way. Yeah, and
then yeah, and then the the GM mode, and I
think why I loved watching you do this is because
we've played so many games over the years, and we
talked about so many games on the podcast, a lot
of things like some of these Sony games are going through,
We get really deep. We talked about the mechanics, talk
about the story. You know, you're you're great at at
Strikers and you get Smash and mart Party like all
these things, and I, you know, I know you're a
talented gamer, but I feel like you were so in
your element in GM mode. I was just fascinated by
like this, like the way how well I know Smash
Melee and like all the mechanics, the timing, the frame data,
how these mechanics work. That's like you with GM mode,
and I just found it so entertained, just getting schooled
in how this thing worked, all the little mechanics. And
obviously got the wrestling background too, so I'm like lose this,
who's this person? Like who's this like Sky, Like here's
her whole BackStar, here's her whole story. But then like
how you know the mechanics and you're like spam through
the meno is so quick you know exactly what everything
is yeah, and then you were just popping off like
you were just making like everything you did was like
the seemingly right decision, and you're always like, ah, there's
this might not work, but I'm gonna go for it,
and then like, okay, this was it was worth the risk.
But here's why, and that's why. Man, Like I would
love someday, of course for geek first to be big
enough where we can be doing this full time and
like have a dedicated maybe each one of us does,
like a video game stream once a week, because I
would love to just have a Travis ww gm mode stream.
I'd love to get like a Kirkland Hitman stream because
that was yeah. But yeah, man, I like, hats off
to you, GM Mode. You were a fucking king at
that and it was so entertaining to watch. So props
on that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm glad you injured because, like I because Kirkland
he does that on like uh I know F one
half one. But I think me and him with the
sports games, I think we do like the sports game,
but I think we both leaned to all we like
doing the general manager stuff and doing that thing. And
he had kept asking about it. I'm like okay, same thing.
It was a downtime. You guys were doing some chess.
You and kirkl had your actual big matchup. Which congrats
you want that? You want both, Taylor. When we went
outside we had to film some stuff. Taylor was I think,
pretty confident you could beat you both. He's like, well,
here's how I see Kirkling play. Here's how I Sally done.
He was like GM and mowed me about the chess.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, well, he did much better than I
thought he would, just because I had never heard him
talk about chess in my life. And then he's like, oh,
I've been I've been studying. He's like just casually mentioned
that he's been practicing or something, and he had me
on the ropes for.
Speaker 2: A bit there.
Speaker 1: But then it all crumbled with a couple a couple moves.
But at both points, at some point in both those games,
I was definitely losing. But then you know, just kind
of held out, trying not to make any superd plays,
and then eventually someone just kind of missed a move
and it would out for me.
Speaker 2: And all this stuff, the Chess, the Marvel, the GMO,
and it's all on there because s pubs didn't watch
this live because this was late in the weads. I
think there was like two or three on We're doing
Chess and GMO, but he had a screenshot and in
the wrestling group chat he messaged me and said he's
watching like a masterclass video because he's a big player
of that. But he's sometimes I've seen his rosters and
I've seen his rankings and I've been like, what's going on?
Why aren't you still beating these people here? And he's
getting better and better. He's showed me his current show
right now. He's booking and he's learned some tricks, because
he even messaged me after He's like, oh, yeah, you
do this differently and this differently, but.
Speaker 1: You're also playing on the highest difficulty just to throw that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I played.
Speaker 1: I assume you are. You're on expert mode. I am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two expert modes, and I want them to
have a higher one. But no, I was glad I
showed off, and I wasn't for you. It is no,
it is because what happened was I've had to make
it that. I remember I showed you all these power
cards and people don't know you can unlock power cards.
So it's something like, let's say you have two wrestlers
and their stamina goes down. One gets injured and he's
out for three weeks, but you have a power card says, oh,
you can rehab them just like that. To make it easier,
I to do seasons where I don't even play at
the power cards because I just got that I got
that bug again, which was like you never lost about
I'm but I got the even more bug. I started
using the cards, so I started up a new season
after we played, and already in season two, I'm like
four hundred thousand past the people like it's one of
those things that when I play at the cards, it's
it's too easy for me. It's maybe like my smashing
weapons right go no no no cards and GMOs, because
I just like it just makes it too easy for me.
But I'm I'm giving it one last big playthrough because
I want to actually play other games. And also I
just I don't know what it's gonna be like when
the new game releases. If there's not many changes, I
won't buy them. Because, as you saw in your Top
of the Characters even s pubs, there's a bunch of
new wrestlers that came in and he showed me his ross,
like where I have to download, and that's like the
good thing and bad thing for the wrestling games with
that community, that community creation every time, like the people
work really hard there and when new restlers come and
they just make them. Where before the appeal was, Oh,
I want to buy this game because I want to
get new people in the game. But if people make
these high rest thing, yeah, sometimes the pictures they upload
for the wrestlers aren't the grace because you even said that,
You're like, what's going on with some of these photos?
You can get a four kick on Like I no, No,
that's the community creation. You know it's a little off,
but uh no, I I I'm glad you guys, because
at first, I'm sure if you're a memean or not.
When you're sitting you're having a good time watching, I'm like, oh,
and I wasn't sure if that was a because I
there's a show that I watch every week. They do
like an hour long street on GM mode. It's two
people versing each other and I enjoy that. But I
was like, oh, is everyone going to be bored by this?
Because it is like it's a you know, it is
just like a manager mode sort of thing. But I'm
glad you got to see an action because that's the
game that takes up most of my time this year
because it, as you've seen, that's a classic. Like you
can if you got half an hour kill, you can
log in book a week or two and then say.
That's why I love that game is at any point
you can back out, like a match book here and there,
you just back out and saved. I do like having
stopping points. It bugs me to I've had two before
and I go away and the show's not booked. I
hate coming back to that because when you come back
and you don't know what's going on, you break some promises.
Oh man, it sucks. So yeah, but yeah, I made
sure to get it because it was on I forgot.
I was on PS plus because Kirkle and that's so
he got it. So I put on my PS four
as well. It's in my bedroom, so now I got
in the in the two locations where that's a little dangerous.
So when the Twins have I got some Twins action
sleeping and I get to bust it open.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it does seem like a nice chill ish
game to have for that kind of thing. Yeah, that
was definitely a big highlight, and I've put those games
on my wishless now the last year's won in this one,
So at some point when they're the right price, I
want to. I don't. Yeah, I think I have much
interested in the other modes. I just want to check
out the GM mode and get into that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even though they get slashed the prices, they always do,
and they the those sports games with the yearly releases,
you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, even though I don't know much about wrestling,
but I feel like I actually kind of do at
this point. Just I've I've been around so much now
that like and half these people are in Marvel movies.
Speaker 2: Now, so I'm gonna say you've done that. You've commentary,
Plus you can go online download anybody. I'm sure there's
like dishonored characters on like you there's people that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's funny you mentioned that because I was thinking,
like man like Smash, they've always had like tournament tournament
melee in there, and there's like, you know, you could
just put in CPUs and do like these fictional brackets
and stuff, and then same thing. You can like simulate
the match or you can watch it. But it's like
it's it's not a GM mode. It's like the most halss.
It's it's just a way to have multiple mission or
multiple matches that kind of connect altogether. Yeah, I was thinking, like, man,
I would love if Smash had something like this, or
you could like have Rosco characters power them up, kind
of have some storyline. I'm like, I could probably do
it on paper. I could like write it, you know,
work it all out, and then just like have the
game simulate the battles. But it's very very different than
like a full on GM mode. But yeah, that'd be
fun to get some freaks in there, because I think
that was one of the highlights. Was just like, was
it Braid in the Dark, some random clown you never
put in a wrestling match, but we'd always just put
him in there for the promos, for a little bit
milk and for Ally's worth, just like Nickel and Diamondam,
just to get the value out of him and that
like that. That was great to have some some weird
freak shows in there.
Speaker 2: Plus a tight end, we got a character named Cedric.
If you go back once to stream, Kirklan was dropping
Harry Potter quotes almost every twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: So Kirklin was crazy. Yeah yeah, speaking of Harry Potter.
We did put up god, what is it called Quidditch
Quidditch Champion at some point, which Taylor was the only
one who actually played it. I think or Kirkland started it,
and then yeah, Taylor took over, and then I don't
think any of us really had interest to play it
after that. I wanted to just to say I did,
but then like, after watching Taylor play it for twenty
thirty mins, I was like, eh, I'm good. I don't
think I need to try this.
Speaker 2: I had interest until it was just that it was
no local to play. I was all in to try
because I didn't know if it was gonna be good
or not. But I was all down because, like, I
think we could have some fun stream moments of a
couple versus matches, some scores, but what And I know
that's the way gaming is, right, I know, I selling
an old man. I'm like, oh, it just kills it.
But that right there, I feel like we at least
would have done an hour and we would at least
had a couple of matches and played because like it
looked like like I think we were talking about, like
is it a good score? Not like it had like
a sixty six of Magram. For me, I was like,
that's actually higher than I thought it was gonna be.
In the way it played, I'm like, oh, this looks
like it plays like a quidditch match. And I was
very curious, like, Okay, how is this gonna work with
this screen and two people and such like, And I
guess there's online, so I guess, yeah, we could have
pulled out the extra TV, but I was not prepared
for that. So maybe next year. Maybe next year I'll
pull up the extra one because I'd like to see
the match go down. But it's just like, oh, that
seems like such a bummer and I get it with
that game, but uh yeah, so I was excited to
try it, but yeah, no local play, so that was
a that was out for us.
Speaker 1: So that was another randomly a theme of the stream
in general, it was just like, man, some modern games,
most modern games, I would wager, have such horrendous like
split screen call, like that's such a just half assed effort.
At this point, it feels like if you're not a
Nintendo game, that feature is gonna be really janky or
like multi versus. You can do it, but you need
to have separate accounts otherwise you're both going to control
the same player player one. It's like, that's ridiculous call
of duty. It's funny when we move back to some
older ones, easy you add a guest in there, you
do your zombies. But on the new one, because there's
like everything is stats are tracked and everything's alway is online,
you need to have a separate account. But then you
know it's such a hassled, like, oh, we gotta log
in on this other account. Maybe make an account like
for Rocket League as well. Rocket League should be the
most straightforward whatever, but because you need like you haven't
got these epic games accounts, you need multiple things. It's
so annoying. All these games these days make it so
hard to just play a co op thing. Even my
belove UFO fifty not it doesn't have all my multiplayer
gotta do, like weird Steam remote play stuff. It just
seems to be like a thing that gets kind of
pushed to the side a lot these days. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was superfressional, Like multi both of them.
I guess multi Versus was a pain where we actually
never end up trying it on the PlayStation just because
we just went on to other things. And with Xbox
it was one of these things where it's like, Okay,
had to do this, and then it was such a
bummer because like it would have been a fun matchup
and everything like that. So and call Duty, I thought
it was gonna be very easy. I just Okay Strass's
Xbox and then it's like easy to put it in
like Traass account, guest go.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah it used to be used to be
that way, but not an Yeah, yeah, I think my
last two highlight shout outs here one Mortal Kombat, I
didn't really explore any of the new characters because once again,
this is part of the tournament and I was trying
to win. So I was using Katana again. Well I
learned last year, and and by learn I mean I
literally have three moves. I do like the Torly blade,
I do like the range blade, and that's pretty much it.
I use like my cameo fighter. So I was like
the most basic play style, but I can at least
have a game plan with that, and it did go
well I beat Taylor, and I still lost to you
and Kirkland. But I don't know, I just I love
that new game. I think that's another one that when
it hits the right price, I canna pick it up
and kind of get into it because Mortal Kombat's always
been like I think the two D fighter that makes
the most sense to me. It's like a little bit simpler,
kind of not as crazy as like a Marvel Verus
capcom as an example, but it was I don't know,
I really love that game. What do you think of
the new characters?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there are tons of fun though I respect
the gameplay. That's why I do a little mac. I
have the block, the game anchor, and the run. You know,
it's like in those three moves they get me played.
Speaker 1: Whenever you have the charts smashed, I am just fearful.
Speaker 2: You just gotta go with the works, right So yeah, yeah,
for me, yeah, it was I love that game the
same thing as you that I wanted to get at
a time, and I remember that's when we had like
the Power Go and everything. I never got around to
and I still want to. I'm hoping they do like
a Game of the Year sort of addition, because even
those other characters that Kirkland didn't have, like ghost Face
and the Team one thousand, I want to try out,
but it's just such like a well oiled machine. But yeah,
I played with all three of the characters that have
been since the last time, Homeland or Peacemaker and an
Omni Man. Homelander was he He ended up being fun
because we had a lot of fun with him and
the Gorol pairing.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of theme of the stream.
Speaker 2: For sure, he was great, but it was something. It
was just I get it because homelanders he's supposed to
be like a superman. Him and Omni aren't like a
superman tight, but there was just something about the way
he It just felt very stop start, just emotion didn't
fel smooth. We're even like Omni Man. I felt like
when I was moving and kicking it thought like I
could get a flow. But Homelander. That's why I'd love
to play with them more and say like, Okay, maybe
he is almost what was like, he shoots lasers and
he's throwing like big stones, so maybe he's almost supposed
to be played like a projectile type of character. That's
just not what I thought of with like Superman type,
like you can have those, but I kind of thought
more of like a I Heavir scorpion, where okay, scorpion.
He knows mixed martial arts, but he throws a lot
of the you know the claw he transforms in the fire.
I wouldn't expect to be that fast, but yeah, Omniman,
he was tons of fun. He's how I got some
good wins. He just had a lot of good power moves,
Like he had this one move where he would stomp
and like bend down so it would always hit someone's
toe and it was hard to hit him. So he
was tons of fun. And then surprisingly I just tried
him because like, okay, new stuff, here we go. But
was peacemaker. I think that's actually what I beat Kirkland with.
Was peacemaker. Yeah, I remember it was him or omney Man.
But I was surprised by how funny was because he
is just a dude with like a helmet, has some power,
but they made him just very versa and I was like, Okay,
this is a character that like I could see if
I were to have the game, me being a go
to eventually. So no again, even then, the home Lewner
I only had one experience with and I can't remember
who I was playing, and I actually think it was
like the first game I did, like I want to
try Homelanders, so maybe I just didn't grease the wheels yet.
But again, it just like it looks great. It's always fun,
even a couple of matches with everyone with kirkling like,
there's still ways for you to you know, deek out
and get close with that to camera what is a brutality.
I think it is right and if you can hit that,
you can really you know, maybe get a lucky shot
and stuff. So and the environments are so great. So
uh and yeah, shout out to if Patreon Clay's listening to,
shout out to the Patreon Clay cop that was in
the game. We had a lot of fun with that too.
There was a cop that looked exactly like Patreon Clay
but just in some police skier but I was blue
and white for his lions, but no it.
Speaker 1: Was him or Goro were like the two cameos that
were being used in the Yeah, generally cross the board,
but again a fun time mm hmm. And then yeah,
my last shout out was just watching Kirklan play hit
Man was absolutely hilarious, and it was kind of like
giving him some tips and tricks because I know these
maps very well. But even then, like it's been a
long time since I've played the traditional maps. I'm mostly
just playing Freelancer mode these days, which randomizes the targets
and locations and a lot of other little mini changes
there along the way. But that was that was just
a total joy watching him go on a rampage through
the mansion in sat Pienza there. So yeah, that's another thing, man.
I would love to watch him. Just have a stream
of Hitman that I can tune into whenever I want
and just watch him get into this chaos. It was
such a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his opening, which I've done this before, I said
this many times I have, but on the first mission,
his opening statement was all I'm gonna go John Wick
on this thing. It's like, okay, well, I don't know
if that's uh, yeah, that's the way you want to
go about. But it ended up being a very fun
time to watch it him. Man's all, whether you play
it that way or you play it the strategic actually,
you know, being a hit man, you know, being quiet
it's such a great funny game to watch. I was
glad I was gonna make it apearance because it didn't.
And I always loved those wee hours because we talked
about that a couple of years ago, like Fellowship the
Ring made appearance, like it's always those wee hours when
because I moved, I didn't know where the game Cuba
remote was. I eventually apparently the Xbox remote, the other
ones in Ellie's room. So that's why you know, a
three year old kidnapped. Yeah, that was discovered, But that's
why it's one of these sings of Okay, we got
an hour and a half, what do we do? We'd
played The Punisher, which was tons of fun for a
little bit, but then it was one of these things
because it's pretty much just a bun masher, like you
were playing with your eyes closed, which led you to
almost falling asleep. It was this thing of like that
maybe we should have probably played when we weren't so tired,
but yeah, so it was. It was fun to that
was a good keep us awake, and Kirk was just
up to Hijing, so HITMN a fun time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's always we plan a ton of
games that we are excited to get into on the stream,
where then there are other ones that sneak in there,
just yeah, looking to fill the time, and then those
sometimes end up being the favorites and like, oh, we
should have spent more time on that Hitman and I
think GM Mode were like those two from from this
particular so I'm sure they'll make an appearance again next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh well, like I said, next year, what I
want to do in those wee hours is because there's
the local pay, I want to get somebody to be
some bosses. And I commentate that because I don't want
to play against anybody. Would love to see people put
some shows together.
Speaker 1: And you know, so definitely. Did you have any other
highlights from the stream, any games unmentioned?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what we if there's anything, jamberree, I,
I liked it, but I was disappointed that we didn't
get to do anything of the new things that I played.
So I almost want to do that again because I
know you're not reround, but one time, if Taylor brings
it over, something I'd like to try, because like the
Buddy system, and I can't remember whether there was another
system too, that oh even just like stuff like those
coin and star stickers. I was excited to see those
popp and no one landed on a single one. So
for me it was like felt like just a regular
game Mario part which is good. But I will say
that's almost all those mini mini games I think I enjoyed.
There was one I didn't because you and Taylor are
having a good time, a because we were tired. It
was that stupid the coin for you to jump on
the thing. I think I was too tired, like I
was not processing. And then Kirklaan is also messing up me.
He would just jump on ten times, and everyone knows
kirkle when he gets in a me mood. Kurla was
not even there to win. Kirkland sometimes in those mini
games was just there to mess around. But I guess
that's what I'd say, is that sold me of Okay,
I think that all. I'd say at least eighty five
percent of the mini games I played that were Sometimes
there are variations of the old ones, but there were funds,
especially if the new ones were fun, so I didn't
get to try many new features. But all the new
mini games like nah, after all this time, they're still
pulling out entertaining good stuff with you know, so I
will likely in the future that might be a you know,
Christmas purchase or something because the kids now, Gwen and Logan.
That's the only thing I was gonna say. Last week
went to the Marvel versus cap Con for the first time.
Last week they actually played Mario Party before we would
do the whole ghost controller thing. Oh yeah, you're playing
and stuff the stars that one. Yeah, superstars. So obviously
me and Emily don't go like ham on them, but
still they they find a way to you know, the
mini game is not their strengths, but this is a
good thing with Mario Party is lucky and both times
we've played them, Gwen one one and Logan one one,
and I still would like to win something. So it
was it was a good time there. And like I said,
I've I haven't told the listeners this, but I have
to buy a new microSD cart. But next thing, they're
gonna be introduced into Smash Ultimate because I showed them that.
I'm like, hey, would you like do this? And and
I think, like, you know, the good thing is we
can do a lot of those like me and them
on a team versus three CPUs on an easy computer, Like,
I think that's a good way to step up.
Speaker 1: And you say you did use a voucher on that, right,
you did?
Speaker 2: I did because you reminded me. Yeah, luckily you remind me.
The vouchers were coming up and I was like, okay,
I better, I better use it here.
Speaker 1: I game really goes on sales. I think that's good.
Speaker 2: That's why. Yeah, that's why I didn't. And there's other
games I all thought about, but I was like, I
just know I've been wanting to play that and I'm
happy to play on the stream. But other than that,
I think it'd been like a year probably since the
last stream, where like I said before, I never bought
it before because there's a time when you were in
the Custo dome I still planning. I think it's like
I felt like every week, like I'd walk into the
custom in the podcasts and smash. Oh. Even parties, I'd
be taking what was his name, Dante? What was your
friend's money that I can't remember. I took his money.
It was a good night. Yeah. Oh he had the
glasses I can't remember, but yeah, he was always playing
melee and he said, he bet mean like fifty bucks,
and then we did double or nothing. I remember getting
walking away almost one hundred bucks and I was like, yeah,
because you don't know the power of the little mac,
you know, So that was the prime. But no, I
think for them it'll be a fun that they've even
said like, oh, they'd be down to do the two
versus one scenario. But I'll you know, and then I
can go back to playing some characters that I haven't
really explored.
Speaker 1: Row because yeah, whenever we're playing, you're trying to put
the try hard pants on and get some ws you got, yeah,
get your best.
Speaker 2: I just feel like, even in the past, when I
was playing more consistently, I could play some different characters
and stay competitive. But when I go a whole year
without playing it, I'm like, man, if I play anybody else,
I'm you're just gonna get destroyed. So I'm excited to
get back in that roster and like fully dive into
like banjo kazoo and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think you know, Mario Party. Uh.
I feel like the new mechanics do tend to work
better in like a longer games, more turns, but I
do wish that the Buddy system, like I wish you
could maybe edit the settings on it. I wish that
they just stuck around more than three turns because certain
maps it's just hard to get to them, especially on
like bigger maps. That one's pretty small, but even then
we couldn't get to them in time. And that one
also had the freaking train going around hitting us back
to go a million.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the problem with that. When there was
like when did he popped over Donkey Kong, he was
like on the completely seem of all of us, like
no one's gonna get there, like unless a miracle happens,
but it's like, no one's gonna get there on three turns,
you know, And I wanted to see it play down.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like part of that is because
the there's like a lot of the criticism of Super
Mario Party and that Buddy system was that you just
got way too many buddies and it became overpowered. And
it was a very different system, but it was similar
where you're accruing characters, and so maybe they just were
trying to be cautious and like, okay, let's let's tone
it down a little bit. So there's only one at
a time. They're only there for a limited amount of time.
You can't have more than one at a time because
of the way the system's worked out. But there's just
not a lot of customization for the boards. There's a
couple little things you can do, but not a ton
of stuff. So that would be nice to be able
to adjust that. But once again, I think if you're
on a higher, uh higher turn count, you're naturally gonna
get more opportunities to get them and I don't know,
get more spread out and then that sort of thing.
But yeah, that was that was fun to play more
of that. I finally got to win because at home
here MUDs is destroying me and Mario party so far
the new one, so I was kind of I could
finally sneak a win at.
Speaker 2: My expense of two stars. Goodness.
Speaker 1: There was some brutality against for sure, with the boo
the boo stealing, but God, name the game, get it yeap?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: How about we take our first break and we will
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Any other shout outs, Any episodes dropping this week? What's
what's going on these days?
Speaker 2: No, we got the newscast later in the week. The
Superman Fantastic four retros are kind of dropping every month.
What I do is like one of each drops for
the If you're five, phase two and up, you get
them early. If you're you get them, and if you're
the producer phrase you get them like months and months
early and then the only thing shout in a couple
of weeks, we'll do and after nine, which will be
fun to call in, and that will be my last
episode will be after nine because I thought that's a
good way to go out as get patrons for a
couple couple hours and to just catch up with everybody,
and that I'll be right before and you guys, I
guess that's the thing you guys will be doing Gladiator,
since that's the only thing I'm big review coming up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited for that. That's gonna be a
new experience for me. So excited to check that one out. Okay,
let's talk a little bit about games we've been playing.
I just have two shout outs here because over the weekend,
of course, I was down in Kelowna, didn't have access
to everything, and all I wanted to play this week
and other you know, when I was not at the
stream playing things with you guys, was UFO fifty. I
just want to play UFO fifty, but I didn't have
my laptop. It's not on switch, so I was taken
away from my baby UFO fifty and I had to
find something else to do. And I found the perfect thing. So, uh, Travis,
I've ever heard of down Well. This is an indie
game that came out years and years and years ago.
Speaker 2: I think only by name because I feel like you've
mentioned it. But I don't think I've done a way
where it's like I walked in and you're playing it,
or like I've seen like something like I feel like
I've just heard you. I've heard that name. If it's
not even then must have been another game podcasts, then.
Speaker 1: I think it might have been a different one. But
I feel like it is one of those that gets
mentioned pretty often. But the reason I decided to pick
this up is that the developer of down Well is
one of the few people who worked on UFO fifty
as well. He's one of the group of collective indie
developers working on that project, and Downmo's kind of always
been one on my list. Never picked it up for
whatever reason, And funnily enough, one of the games in
UFO fifty people have described as like up Well, it's
kind of like the opposite of down Well. We're rather
going down this well forever. You're climbing up this this tower.
That one's called Velgress, which I've talked about in that
first UFO fifty episode with Kirkland, and so I was like, oh,
you know, this is the perfect opportunity. I'm just going
to pick up down well, because it kind of feels
like a UFO fifty game. It's kind of like the
fifty first YUOFO fifty game, and so this feels perfect. Also,
the game's like four dollars, and I had enough coins
on my switch account that it was just free, so
of course it was an easy decision to pick it up.
And but yeah, this I've heard a lot of good
things about this game. It seems pretty basic, but I
think that's intentional and it's meant to be. Like it's
a fairly simple game. There's a little bit going on
in terms of the mechanics. It's hard. It's like a roguelike,
so it's gonna be challenging. But I think the intention
of the game is it's really trying to get you
in that flow state where you're not even thinking anymore.
You're just like in the matrix, You're in the code
of the game and just like feeling it completely. So
the game is pretty sure forward. It's a roadway. As
I said, it's a two D platformer. It's kind of
vertical because I think it was originally a like mobile game,
so it meant to be played mobile resolution, right, and
then on the switch it's just that so it uses
like thirty percent of the screen and like the UI
stuff is on the outside of that, so it looks
looks a little silly on switch, but it's fine because
it's pretty simple. And yeah, you're just going down a well.
As you're going through, you're jumping around, you're dodging past enemies,
you're getting simple upgrades, getting through different areas. You're starting
like kind of cave like area and you go to
the catacombs and then kind of the areas below that,
and it's really smart, simple design where you know, you
run and you jump, you're going down, and then you
also have a you have a gun by default, and
at first it just shoots straight downwards and like kind
of like a pistol sort of cadence. And then as
you're going through, you're getting different upgrades. So you get
the shotguns, so it gives you a bigger blast, but
you have less that you can shoot at a time.
You get a machine gun, you get like triple shot,
all these different things and I feel like what's really
smart about the game is that your AMMO count it
regenerates whenever you land on the ground or if you
land on an enemy, so you're eventually once once I've
played a few hours and I'm getting to be better
at it, it's kind of about like, man, I don't
ever want to touch the ground. I just want to
land on enemies because that keeps your combo up, Like
you lose your combo and you hit the ground. So
it's kind of like I'm flying through this map, jumping
on the backs of enemies, shooting other ones that I
can't land on the back of, and just kind of
comboing doing all these crazy things and just trying to
keep that momentum going, trying to move at the maximum
speed one so I can get through the levels quicker,
but also you get like bonuses if you get these
like crazy combos, and yeah, like after like for the
first few hours, I was taking it kind of slow.
I'm looking down at what's blow me, I'm jumping down slowly.
But now I'm just like, you know what, I'm just
trying to fly through these levels as quick as possible
for the benefits that that give and because it's a rogue,
like it doesn't have like a huge amount of variety
in terms of the different like there's like five or
six weapon types. You know, there's like maybe ten fifteen upgrades.
I feel like I've seen all of them now, But
it's it's kind of about really getting intimately familiar with
all those things and just like mastering it. And I
still haven't beat it yet, but man, it is super
duper fun, pretty straightforward game. But man, I am just
like in love with it. It is a great flow
state game. And yeah, I can see why it kind
of got all the praise years and years ago when
it when it came out originally.
Speaker 2: Yeah nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's down well. And then thether one I
just wanted to quick the shout out is a game
called Overland, which I talked about. I did I think
a solo episode on this like years and years and years,
years before side Quest even existed on gig first, Like
this is this game been around for quite a few
years now, but it's funny because it kind of has
a new context to me now. So for anyone who
doesn't remember what this game is, which I don't blame you,
because the title Overland is not very memorable.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And I remember back in the day, like being anticipating
the game, and I'd always forget what it was called.
So I was like, I want to see if that
game's out yet, but I can't remember the name because
it's so generic. But it's pretty much like a tactics
strategy game. It's a road trip kind of survival post
apocalyptic thing where you're in your car, you're with your crew,
and you're traveling, traveling across the map. It's kind of desperating,
like you're going from like the east coast to the
west coast. Uh, and you're going through you know, you're
scavenging for fuel to fill up your car, health packs,
if you're if you took damage finding weapons. You're going
through and there's these kind of creatures that here's how
the new kind of context comes to it. This feels
very much like a quiet place game to me because
the enemy creatures are like kind of based off sound
and how much sound you're making. It's like, Okay, I
have to destroy this barricade, but if I do that,
it's gonna make a noise. In the end, they're gonna
kind of swarm around me. And that happens with all
sorts of things across the game, and if there's ever
an explosion, the enemies come flocking around and if you
hit one of them, they kind of screech out, and
then other enemies kind of swarm you. And so it's
interesting that this game came out like way before Quiet
Place the first movie had even come out, but it
feels like that now. And I know there was an
actual Quiet Place game that came out like a month ago,
like a first person horror one, but I really like
this as like a strategy element of that. It feels
like that kind of thing, and so it's really fun
to kind of have this game back up. I haven't
played it in a long time. They've done a few
updates to it since I last booted it up. And yeah,
it's just such a great strategy game that at the
core of it, it is pretty simple, but it gets
pretty complicated pretty quick as you get further into it.
And yeah, just a big recommend. I think this one
kind of flew under the radar even when it came out,
and especially now, a lot of people probably forgot about it.
But really really great game, great aesthetic, really great mechanics,
great little character building, Like each character kind of has
like just literally two sentences describe them, and it's like
randomly generated, but it's just enough to make you intrigued
enough with them. Yeah, Like one of them is like this,
this character is excited or actually likes what's happened to
this world in this post apocalypse, Like they're kind of
into it. Another one will just be like, you know
this this person, I don't know, was it a grade
A student in college or something like that. It's just
like little little story beats like that that give you
a bit of the character's backstory and you can kind
of fill in the gaps like dogs. You're gonna have
his companions too, so of course that's fun. And they
have slightly different mechanics. So yeah, big big show out
to Overland. I wanted to bring that one up again.
It's just been a really it was pretty much Overland
and down Well. It was like do I want a
quick twitch game or do I want a slower thinky
game over the weekend, and those are the two games
I was kind of swapping back and forth, keeping me
a company on the plane and in the airport and
all that. So yeah, big showed it to both those games. Nice,
I'm guessing you don't have much to show up because
all your stuff was from the stream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was all from the stream, like it said, lately,
the pastoral one's been moving and then on them trying
to think the even.
Speaker 1: I guess gym mode is probably what you've been playing
a lot, but we kind.
Speaker 2: Of yeah that's yeah, that's the quick like turn on
everything like that. And like I said, already discussed a
few play sessions I had with the girls and other games.
So yeah, no, not much, I gues said, I want
to get into something, but we'll see with the limited time.
I still look at all of them, and Alan Wake
is still like the one called me the most that
I want to get to eventually, so I think that's
still number one on the hit mass So yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, yeah, just a couple of quick news
hits then and then we'll talk. I want to talk
to you about a little game to your end of
the year stuff since you might not be on Side
Quest again for the rest of this year. But yeah,
first up, you know, in theme with the stream again
of Kirkland spamming his Harry Potter quotes, thout the whole
thing Hogwarts Legacy, which I think we kind of already
knew this, but it's officially confirmed that Hogwarts Legacy sequel
is in development now. So rather than expecting any sort
of bigger DLC other than like small updates, I think
they're officially kind of done with that first game and
they're working on that sequel now, which is not surprising
because that game sold amazingly well. It hit like ten million,
definitely within that first year. It's probably I don't know,
maybe closer to fifteen or maybe twenty I don't even
know now's it was.
Speaker 2: The top selling game of that year, I think, right.
Speaker 1: I actually think it was. I think it beat out
the Call of Duty because I think that was the
year like Call of Dude, Vanguard came out, like the
one that was kind of the worst performing of the series.
And so yeah, it was. It was huge. It was,
you know, as you just said, the biggest game of
the year. So no surprise that a sequel is coming out.
And then the kind of the weird tidbit with this
is that they're planning to have this as kind of
a companion or parable piece with the TV show that
is coming out, which I guess we did recently a
fan cast for who we want to see? Ye see
them cast as the new roster of like the Hair
because they're not doing any fantastic beat stuff. They're going
back to form, they're rebooting it is that? Is that
on the main feeder? Is that on Patreon right now?
Speaker 2: That's on Patreon right now? Yeah, because it's bread.
Speaker 1: Butter, I gus yea, So go to patroon film and
check out that episode. Yeah, for a little pairy in
action there. But yeah, I in the discord you had,
it kind of seems like maybe a negative reaction to
that parying idea. But what do you what do you
think about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I just hope that it's when they mean pairing,
it's literally just like, okay, let's say they do Hogwarts
Legacy too, and it's you're playing as you know, Serious
Black or James Potter or something like that, where okay,
it's connected just characters and name, even if it's similar
to that era. I just don't want to be like,
I don't I don't know how you can do a
connected to the show when the show is just remaking
the movies and doing the books again. Right. It'll be
different if they saying, hey, we're doing a Hogwarts show
and it said after Harry Potter's new characters, and I
can say, okay, you've got some new Wizards. You're gonna
put them in the game crossover. But at that point,
aren't you just not redoing what they did? You know,
we talked about this on the stream again like the
GameCube like Chamber of Secrets and Philosopher's Stone. So I
don't think it'll be that. My hope is that it
is something frequellly or I really don't even want, like
when they say tie to the show, like, I don't
even think I want. You're a student that like the
same time as Harry Potter, and so like, I just
feel like what I liked about, at least the story
aspect of Legacy, which you funny enough, I never finished
it still, but that's I guess another one that's on
the hit list. And maybe I'll wait till I get
more than Harry Potter mood, because we're about to watch
some of those movies. But for me, I enjoyed being
in a new world, and that's the thing where I
hope it's just in a sense of just smaller connections.
So hey, when the show comes out, we can sell
a few more copis this game and not really overall
to do with, you know, unless for some reason they
want it, like, hey, we're gonna make a Philosopher's Stone game,
but it's gonna be fully like Legacy, where it is okay,
obviously the gamekey one and PlayStation two and everything very limited.
It covers the movie, but it just gives you the feel.
But I don't know, it just it felt like an
all I'd thin because it just felt like it's Hogwarts
because he sold really well, and I don't think it
needs like the boost of the show. Like I think
it's it's fine to do its own thing, and I
feel like there's other ways you can go other characters,
other time periods. So I felt that was odd. So
I just hope it's just not that's just a kind
of some word fodder right now, and it's not really
really tied to the show, because I think they would
kind of take some of the specialty of what this second,
and I feel like you might just get more limited,
you know, because you've got to worry about breaking storylines
since that we liked is Oh this is so far
away from hairing all them you can kind of do
what you want. I don't have to worry about X,
Y and Z, so I hope it's something just small,
you know, tied to the small degree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it seems like a weird decision. Obviously,
we don't know the implementation of what that even looks
like yet, so it's really just speculation. But it does
seem weird because like, Okay, this game sold amazingly well.
I guess it's not GTA five or Minecraft or something,
but sold super duper well. So it's like, you don't
need to do that for any sort of marketing reason.
You're not pairing it with the shows that it sells better.
Of course that's going to happen. But I think regardless
of whether or not it's tied to the show in
any way, if you release, you know, when the show
comes out, Hogwarts Legacy is going to sell a bunch
more copies, and then the sequel is also going to
sell a bunch more copies because people are just in
that world. They want to play it, and it's like
a well made game.
Speaker 2: So it's like not gonna be like this game because
it's not connected to the.
Speaker 1: Show, you know, and like I don't think they're definitely
absolutely not gonna be doing like a quantum break situation
where you have to like watch an episode of the
show and then like play an hour of the game
to get the full story. So it's not gonna be
connected in that way. So it makes me curious, like
how is this gonna be connected to the show, but
not just like a retelling of what the movies did
or the books. Like it's interesting that they kind of
use some of that worrying of like specifically tying into
the show. So I feel like it's probably just like
a marketing thing. They can kind of both feed off
each other. People are gonna play the game the second game,
then they're gonna want to watch the show, even if
they were maybe against it, just because they're so used
to having that original cast and beloved. You know, those
movies are beloved, So are they gonna watch this new thing?
So I'm sure it's just like Rise and Tie Raises
All Boats sort of situation, but I'm curious to see
what they do there. I guess my other if I
had a theory, it would maybe be that they are
trying to build out this new game such that it's
gonna have like cause I don't know, I guess this series,
the TV show, What do you think a new new
season every year? Is that too bold?
Speaker 2: Every two years to make two years? Because that's what
happens with Us a Dragon, And I think if they
say it's gonna be the budget of that, I think
it's it's tough with those kids because you gotta you know,
obviously film with those kids quickly. But that's why I'll
go with the probably every two years, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like if you translate that to a game,
like are they gonna try and aim for a certain
thing where the game comes out and it's called Hogwarts
Legacy or maybe they just call it Harry Potter the
Game or something like that, and then it comes out
the first the game comes out and it has a
bunch of features, but it's mainly focused on that first year,
and then when the second season comes out, they have like,
like what would it be in a live servicey type
of way where you now you have the second year's
worth of content like that, because if it is following
the show and it's like two years, that feels like
maybe a long time like if we're if it is
two years per thing, we're talking about like ten for
like how many years, Like that's gonna be a long
time before that whole thing comes out, and that would
be like a weird kind of development for the game.
So I'm curious to see how that works. And I
think maybe I never thought they would do this, but
I was maybe hoping that for the sequel of this game,
the eventual sequel, that it would be us going to
a different one of the wizarding schools. And obviously it's
called Hogwarts Legacy, so you have to change the name
of it to whatever the other, just like the one
in Japan, whatever those are called. Just I think it'd
be cool to see like a new location. The developers
could really go crazy with all sorts of different ideas.
And it's like, I don't know a game like this,
Like I don't think I'm gonna really want to come
back for a sqel it's in the same location, yeah,
if it's for the story. It's like I don't think
I really need to play the game version of the story,
Like I'd rather just watch the show when it's coming out,
rewatch some of the movies. But I never really expected
them to actually do that, because you know that's not
going to sell nearly as well as just being back
at Hogwarts. But I'm curious what that looks like. It's
not many open world games go back to the same
open world. Yeahst of the Wild did it, but they
changed it as shit Ton with Tears of the Kingdom
of course, But even then I didn't really like Here's
the Kingdom as much because it felt so samey. So
obviously I'm an outlier in that one case. But it's
just not really done much in the open world genre,
so I don't know. Interesting to see how their implementation goes.
Speaker 2: Well, it's tough because it's kind of like what you
would talk about Spider Man, right if like it's all
that helps them a lot, Like a lot of those
builds like Hogwarts is already there for them, right I
would like to maybe I thought, oh, you call Hogwarts,
like see maybe start the school. Maybe it's even like
you make more towns you could go into, but that's
a sequel in general, Like even though I think like
you and me end up like enjoying it a lot
and then maybe petering off more and more we play
with it. If I remember on the review it still
is a game where I feel like it's kind of
perfect for a Harry Potter fan. And I just don't
know really what else you can add to that game
other than like quidditche but like, I don't know if
they do it, but I like take that out, like
you had all these classes.
Speaker 1: That is definitely an easy ad for sure, especially if
they're following the storyline and the movies. Obviously it's gonna
be a big part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But other than that, it's like you would have
all the classes. You even got to the point where
you could do the Ava Cadabra curse. It's like, true,
yeah you could.
Speaker 1: They're gonna take that away. Are they gonna remove features
that don't fit in line with what the characters are doing?
Or maybe you can just play his mouth for it.
I don't know, go around here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the only thing because it didn't end
up happening, The only thing I'd say is what I'd
want from this game is to hit more on the
RPG features. And I remember when we did this is
the first tray that came out for it leaked or
came out. I remember they were talking about like, oh,
you make your choices, and that's what got me really excited, like, oh,
if you're gonna make some choices and that would make
that would define why you're a Slytherin because maybe you
are a bit more dark or this and that where
we think we talked about that where it didn't really matter.
That's the only thing you can improve on. But uh, yeah,
I am curious with that game what they do with it.
But obviously sold lots of copies. Potter is still a
big thing, and I you know, I know people the
show is fifty to fifty with people. I think it's
gonna be big because there's a whole new generation, you know.
I think there's so you know, you gotta you gotta
have something alongside it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I think it's one of those
those few evergreen eyeps that people are always gonna be into.
And we haven't had a show before, so that's kind
of fresh and new, so we'll see what happens there.
And then just a couple things with Nintendo a little
bit of news today which I thought was very funny
the way this happened where there was a couple like
just Nintendo tweets came out. One of them was just
like the CEO being like, hey, it's the CEO here.
I forget his name off the top of my head,
but he's like, hey, yeah, we just did this investor
call and we're just gonna confirm two new features for
this new console. It's like a very weird thing. Like
normally you get a very pr you know, social media
account person writing a tweet, but this is a very
and I'm sure that still was the case, but it
felt very different. And he just confirmed two things about
the Switch console or the Switch sequel console. One is
that it will be backwards compatible with the current Switch
and that the Nintendo Switch Online is going to be
around on that new console as well. So I don't
think these things are surprising at all. They follow along
with a lot of the leaks that we've seen in
that Okay, the next Switch, it's very much going to
be the Switch plus the Switch pro switch to it's
gonna be the same thing. They're not gonna do some
crazy Nintendo thing like they did. We're like, here, we
had a success, now let's do some crazy pivot. And
I think a big deal or a big reason for
that is just because like it's different people running Nintendo
now in those big CEO roles, and they are more
I think, gonna make the right money decisions, not necessarily
the weirdest, creative, interesting decisions they can. And that's what
people want. People just want a switch to that is stronger,
that is better, that has you know, better load times,
sixty frames on more games, looks better, that sort of stuff,
and so I think they're just really doubling down on that.
So these couple of tidbits here not really surprising to me,
but it is nice to have confirmation of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess that's where I've fought some of
the leaks. But I did not hear about the backwards.
I think it hurt a little bit, but not to
the extent that it was maybe a non surprise. But
it is kind of funny because we're in this similar
situation where we sold very well, and you know, obviously
we I don't think they're doing that at all, where
they're doing a whole different change up and you know,
they're just using the name. But it's funny that other
than Bond Remastered or buying like Nintendo Online, to my knowledge,
we that was the only one that was backwards compatible, right,
it was always a change in cartridge console. So it
is kind of funny the history repeating itself, where biggest console,
let's make one. And that's great because I'm somebody that
I plan on buying a switch to and giving the
switch one of the girls. But that will this decision
will also make it probably make me purchase it faster,
because if it was a say goodbye all your games,
it's like, eh, we're not really in the like that's
not a at least for Xbox PlayStation. That's not really
a thing anymore. We talk about, ah, there's a few
games here and there, but for your major games that
you're gonna love, we're in that era of these transfer
over the same way. Like I got W two K
you know two KWW on the PS five. Now you're
on the PS four. I can play it both ways, right,
And it's just kind of a thing where we talk
about Nintendo makes some weird decisions, but maybe just somebody there,
it's kind of similar with the PS four PS five,
it's like it's just a smart move. It's I don't
think this is gonna to hurt their sales at all,
because people would be having those games. Sure, I guess
maybe they can't resell remaster five years from now Mario
Party Jamboree if people love that, I guess. But I
think they've been doing pretty well elsewise. And plus they
don't take their prices down, So I'm happy about that
because this actually for me employees me more to buy
it quicker, because it's like, Okay, I could play those
old games on this and maybe look a little bit better,
be a little bit more powerful. Who knows, but yeah,
it's kind of cool that they just con it was
a weird way to confirm it. It's it was a
weird time, you know, to break the fourth wall. It's like,
you know, it's the US election. If you look at
every type of company, you don't really break news right
now because like you don't get it covered. So it's
just weird, like yeah, let's just put that. It's like
someone's gonna break this report and like, oh, we gotta
we got to tell people that it's backwards compatible, hurry.
But I don't. That to me is just like another
win for the switch to or whatever it's gonna be called.
Speaker 1: So the switch you yeah, yeah, And I'm gonna think
another like I'm just gonna pick it up day one,
I think, pretty much without question, unless they really don't
have much improvements there with it, which I would find shocking.
But I think for a lot of people, they could
look at it and be like, Okay, the switch came
out in twenty seventeen. It's gonna be twenty twenty five
by the time it comes out, so that's eight years. Like,
that's a pretty decent amount of time to be like, Okay,
if I invest in this next generation of the Switch too,
it's gonna be with me for a long time. I'm
not gonna be like, I regret buying that, because four
years later the next thing came out, and this thing's
kind of obsolete, especially with them kind of doubling down
on this and making it kind of backwards compatible, which
is not a rare thing for Nintendo, right that They've
kind of always had that in phases, not all the
way across the board, but a lot of things with
like a lot of the game Boys, the newer ones
who play the older games, or of course, like the
wi you could play GameCube games on that and it
would kind of you know, the WEU could play Wii
games and so it's like not every generation of course
had that connectivity, but it seems like they kind of
do it in pairs a little bit, and so it
does make sense actually following history like that, the switch
is going to be doing that as well. But yeah,
I think for a lot of people like, Okay, if
they can expect that I'm gonna get the switch, I'm
gonna have it for eight years. Yes, they might release
a light version or the o LD version like they
did for the Switch, but you're not gonna regret buying
this thing at launch. And yeah, like I even just
saw today like nine looking at these numbers for the
switch sales, it's just insane still how well it is
selling it. It is finally slowing down, so that's probably
why they're just they've been waiting for that slowdown to
happen and then boom smack it with the with the
new one. But yeah, just insane. People just can't get
enough of this thing. And it makes sense. We you know,
have two on our TV stand at home here like
everyone you gotta have one or multiple per household, it
seems like.
Speaker 2: And it's like I don't think they're also like what
does a switch go for currently? Like even just like
a regular switch right now.
Speaker 1: It's three four hundred I think, yeah, and the light
is probably three hundred, I think yeah.
Speaker 2: And then so in America, that's like let's just say
round up for both and like around to the average
of three hundred. Like that's the thing that it's not
terribly out of the consoles if you're looking at the
I don't even know what the go for anymore.
Speaker 1: But I know I know I play should be hired.
The base switch would be higher than this series s cost,
but then lower than everything else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why I was gonna say, like, I
don't know where.
Speaker 1: They are switches for the price of one PS five
pro well I made that number probably knock far off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing where it's like just even then,
it's it's more capable for like you get more use
out of it, and it's it's well priced. It's it's
priced where consoles kind of used to be, like I
remember four hundred being like the norm, Like, okay, that's
that in the game. That's a lot. Now it's five
hundred and six hundred and seven hundred dollars, where Nintendo
is still in a very good price range, and it's
not where it was before with the Wii or the WEU,
where even the we obviously it's sold great, and that's
sold for different reasons, but it's like, Okay, I'm clearly
playing like the the lesser console, right. It doesn't feel
like that no ways as powerful as PS five and
the PC and Xbox, but it just feels like a
different route. It doesn't just feel like a complete step
down where playing Smash on weis like, oh, it's great,
play a new Smash, but this doesn't look great on
my now HDT, like it looked like something I'm old,
where this just looks like different than instead of lesser than.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, definitely. And then I think the last
thing for this is just I've seen some some rumors
and things swirling just today or this week where they
were talking about like, oh, it's looking unlikely that they're
going to announce this console this year at this point,
which I think a while ago would have surprised me.
But me and you did a cast probably about a
month ago now we were talking about the switch to
and some our wish list a little bit, and you
had a really good theory of like why they wouldn't
announce it now and instead of wait until next year
to announce it. So I think I was fully bought
into that and I didn't really expect them at this
point to announce it this year. But yeah, some of
the rumors kind of confirming that.
Speaker 2: It seems like they said, I think it was one
of the officials that said you'd hear about it in
the next five months. So that still goes into next
year though, So I'm I'm still banking on it's not
till not till too absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next year is definitely when that's when that's gonna
happen at this point, closer closer to the launch, which
which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, one exception could
be Game Wars, but we kind of debunked that when
we talked about it like a month ago. Anyway, Okay,
let's take our last break and we will be right back. Okay,
we are back. One news thing I almost forgot about,
which is telling for what the news item is is
that Concord n update on Concord that Sony officially.
Speaker 2: Almost forgot about.
Speaker 1: Yes, I almost read good in my notes. So here's
what happened. Concord came out, it did not sell a
lot of copies and there was not a lot of
concurrent players, which for a live service game is not good.
Uh So they turned it offline. They said we'll see
you later in you know, no no sort of detail,
but they just said, hey, yeah, we're gonna take this offline.
We're gonna work on this a little bit and come
back later. But no, Sony has decided to close the studio,
firing everyone there, and Concord is just dead forever now.
So really sad and shitty. Of course, Like this is
so many Sony layoffs, like in this year and the
last two three years in particular from you know, even
the likes of Naughty Dogs. So it's like you can
be the tier one developer and still get laid off here.
So I don't think this is this is not surprising, unfortunately,
but it's unfortunately just a trend that Yeah, Microsoft and
Sony have been going absolutely ham with the layoffs, and
so many other studios have as well. Nintendo is really
the only one who hasn't. And it's funny that like
last week there was like a rumor that was like
Nintendo is doing some layoffs at one studio, and then
like later that day they're like, oh, this is not
true that we're debunking this rumor like when there is
no layoffs happening, so maybe there is some things that
happened in Nintendo is just way quieter, which I hear
is just a thing with Japanese culture in general, but
at least from over here at Yeah, Sony and Microsoft
a ton of layoffs. It's really sad to see, and yeah,
it's bummer. I wanted to play Concord someday. I don't
have a PS five, so I'm not playing it now.
I was hoping to play it someday because I do
think it looks like a lot of fun. But it's
just gonna be gone now forever, and it sucks that
this studio is fired or probably what is I'm gonna say,
mostly Sony executive decisions and not the individual studios decisions
of how like what kind of game to make, or
the release method or the pricing on it. I'm sure
most of those decisions were Sony the executives, and those
are the people who get the golden parachutes on the
way out if they if they decided to leave, like
the Jim Ryans and stuff. So yeah, it's just this
whole it's been weird looking at Sony the last few
years of Sean Laden left and then Jim Ryan came
in that kind of spot really changed what their kind
of future plans were gonna be, really going deep in
this live service thing. Tons of that's where they we're
all going pretty much. And then that's just as the
months and years go by, like that's just falling by
the wayside, they're canceling games, they're closing studios. Concord is
the first, i'd say, really huge game to come out
from that ethos, and obviously it didn't do well. A
big part of that would probably be the forty dollars
price point rather than being a free to play, and
then who knows what would happen if it were. And unfortunately,
it's not easy to just oh yeah, let's just make
this a live service free game. Now. That takes a
lot of work, and so we decided we're not going
to put that work in. We're just gonna call it
a day, which, unfortunate, is probably the right idea for
the game of Concord. Like I don't think it would
have come back and been a big success, but still
firing the studio along the way is the shitty part
of it. Also, Yeah, any any thoughts on this news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just tough. I didn't think it was gonna
go down this route, but I do remember it was
Summer Games Fest when they did the big debut for this.
Wasn't or was it just the show? No, it was
this the Sony Showcase. Wasn't it one of those state
of plays?
Speaker 1: I mean it was for the last year. I feel
like it was getting That's where the marketing budget was going,
was like pumped this game up. And if I feel
like Hell Divers wasn't really advertised that much compared to Concord,
which is interesting to see, like the difference of success
versus marketing there.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's one thing where it shows like
I don't think Hell Divers wasn't anyone radar to be
that big, right, and it just happened where Concord. You
look at Astrobot, like Concord was getting controllers made after
it's in that Amazon series, right, they were pitches to
be the next bit.
Speaker 1: Crazy episode is gonna come out, I assume, So, yeah.
Speaker 2: That was gonna be the next big thing. You know,
they're hoping for and I do remember whenever they did,
like the first showing of it, it was that feeling
I didn't know if it was gonna go this bad,
but I think we all had that. I remember our
discord being like, oh, this looks cool, and then they
go into like and here's the game they start talking about.
Everyone's going like, oh, okay, this is this is what
it is. And we've talked about this before where it's
a very diluted market and now you kind of have
your big dogs and it's hard to break through that market.
Right of people they decide where they're gonna go, and
free to play maybe would have been better, but even
then you don't know how it would have been. And
it's a weird situation because this game was being made before.
It's not that Sony bought the studio and then told
to make this day were already making. But obviously, like
he said, the choice of not being free to play
some other things the roll out maybe, but at the
end of the day, it is it's a shitty situation
and that sucks for everybody. But it was not like
a I guess for me it was a surprise of
how fast it went, but the ultimate result unfortunate was
not I feel like we talked about like this was
gonna come out and probably not do well, and then
you're gonna see a studio close like we talked about
being and that's just like it is an unfortunate thing. Obviously,
I don't know the check books everybody, Like you said,
it's probably to cover the tails of the big guys.
But that's the sad situation is in game where it's
just like if you don't have a massive hit, it's
just it's just kind of over and it's just weird
that it's I can't remember. And they report that they
did lose a lot of money on when they released it,
of course, and that's why they're making these moves. But
it is kind of crazy where it's just a game
comes out, it's out for a week, and then it's
just wiped and it's gone forever. I think the team,
the most people I feel bad about is just the
worker bees that are doing it. Especially people are trying
to get hired and it is tough where they said
that game has been developing for eight years, eight years
of work and.
Speaker 1: It's super expensive game, which.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight years and has what seven to ten days
and it's just gone. It's not even like a game
where it comes out bombs and maybe finds an audience
or even then you can say like, oh, this is
the work I did. It's just like that's why I
feel bad for those people, like Oly. Of course they
still got paid, but like that wouldn't matter. It's like
if we're working on our film. Almost even if someone says, hey,
did you get paid this big amount but no one
will ever see this moviego, it's like, well, we were
pretty hard on them. I'd like to even, you know,
for myself, get that out there and just be proud
of the work I did. Now right now, it's like
a thing that's locked behind closer. But we've talked both
like back girl in Hollywood, like we've seen this hand
with movies now, like all these cut big companies are
finding ways just get any money back. So it's unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that secret level episode comes out
or do they just does Sony get them to just
cancel that? I think it seems like a very weird
thing to release in hindsay.
Speaker 2: I wonder they could, but I wonder if it's even
in their power where Amazon might be like, hey, we
paid for this and we're putting it out. Plus we
don't even know, like what does the we've talked about
this before that show, right, Like what is the even
the narrative of it? And does is it just an
episode that has multiple things and it also features things
from Concord? Is it a Concord dedicated episode that's the fact,
Like it feels like a cut scene. I don't know,
but I bet there's enough people that will just go, oh,
this is like some cool anime did show thing, Like
I think that it will see the light of day
and which is very odd.
Speaker 1: But and that's coming out soon. Actually that's coming out next,
I think. At this point, hey, yeah, December Stack, Damn,
I'm gonna have this alunky episode of a TV show
that's crazy crazy crazy. Okay, lastly, for this, I just
want to do a little year end close with you,
which feels early but as I as I was mentioning,
like you're about to go on pat leave here for
a couple of months, you this is likely your last
side Quest episode of the year, unless you know, I
say that, and then probably like tomorrow, Ka Jim is
gonna be like a death ranting two trailer out now,
and we're gonna do an emergency thing. So I'm sure
the next two weeks.
Speaker 2: There could be I could be back. But yeah, as
far as planned, right, yes.
Speaker 1: As far as plan of course, you're always welcome any
any weekend going on, but yeah, I want to do
like a year end thing with you a little bit here.
So one, I feel like you didn't play a ton
of no games this year, But what do you think
is gonna go down? Is you your game of the
year for the year twenty twenty four as of kind
of right now, or even just like projecting out what
you plan on kind of playing more of this year?
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, probably just by my GM mode sort of deal,
because I feel like that's.
Speaker 1: Like that of specific mode within one game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just that specific mode, because like you said, it's
been me trying to catch up, Like I still didn't
complete but I was putting hours again back in Elder
Ring or there's other games, so it's more like games
of the past been like Mario Wonder, so I'm like
a year behind, and even the games right now my bucket,
that's like I still want to play Astro and I
still want to play these things. But there's just other
games that I've been wanting to play first that are there,
so that that would probably just go to it for
the amount of time. Like I said, I think wonder
I gave it to last year as I played with
the girls and stuff, so and that's that's really that's
really it so far, because even then the same thing, I
jump back into Mad Max for a couple of weeks
back with you. So I feel like this year has
been a very big retro game year where it's like, Okay,
I'm gonna play this a little again, or like early
in the year when we did like Texas Chainsaw for
a little bit, they're all.
Speaker 1: You know what, actual trials that I was gonna take
it back.
Speaker 2: I would, I would give it outlast Trials because GMO
was fun. But I still had that last year and
it's still like the same thing, but some new editions
outlast Trials, which I was mad, we all were busy.
I'd like to even if it's not how we can
get back into it. I just still got to beat
that one house to keep us going. But I was
surprised how much fun I had because I remember when
they announced it being like, Okay, I'm an Outlast fan,
can't wait to see what they do with this. But like,
this could easily be like a mess of a game, right,
but I had we had tons of fun those moments
of trying to get out, Like just talking about right now,
I'm like, Okay, yeah, when I'm in the New Year,
when I got some time, I'd like to try and
run some of those backs, even if we just play
some of those harder ones and if we can't go
next one, just for a night, because I love the
level design, I love the updates. I loved, and I
do think it's one of these things that you have
to play. You don't have to, but to get the
full enjoyment, you got to play with the squad where
you're micd up, even if you find some random people online,
because that was the fun of just seeing these horrific things.
But then also here all you guys talk about stuff
and like the best moments of when someone's walking down
and like, oh, Dylan, can you hand this to me?
And Dale's like, oh, I'm over here, like oh my god.
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about the impostors. Yeah that was a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, like that's one of my favorite kind
of those type of games, it might be my favorite,
maybe next like what Fright the Thirteenth was, because unfortunately
that game got shut down, But those games like I
think I'm few and far because Texas changed, so I
had a lot of fun, but I didn't have as
much fun as out Last We'll out Last Trials. I'm
gonna look fondly back on that for years. So like
guess at the point where my, oh yeah, we got
we got to get there for a round or two again,
because that was that's some of the most fun I've
had with you guys in a game. So yeah, no,
that that would be my number one actually, because I
think it's more just a surprise factor because I thought, okay,
it's gonna be you know, good to bad, but I
never thought we'd be having that much fun. And uh
and wants to replayability too, And I think probably now
would be a good time for us to play again
because I feel like that we played it so much
at one point we were starting to remember all the
things now would be fun today. Okay were again.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they've added a few little like I like,
they had so many those like daily or weekly challenges
or whatever, and I'm sure we could cue up a
bunch of those and get just like slight variations on
something exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm curious to see where
that one ends up in my top rating at the
end of the year, because I haven't done like a
full breakdown of that yet, and I do There's a
lot of things I'm playing on playing this month, catch
up now that I'm back on game pass plays and
the other things that released, and Soccer two Indiana Jones
and things like that. So but I'm guessing know US
is gonna be easily my top ten, maybe even a
top five or because I still yeah, I love that.
And then I even went back and played one and
two this year as well, right, so really a big
out last year for me. And then I wanted to
ask you about this because it was always fun doing
predictions or doing covers of the game awards and you're
not gonna be around for that stuff, which is which
is sad. But yeah, like, what do you think the
game would I just in general, I guess a Game
of the Year winner for a lot of different outlets,
but like specifically the game awards, Like what do you
see as like the Game of the year winner or
even like the top norms. This year, I feel like
this year is much less like you know, like Balder's
Gate and Tears of the Kingdom last year before they
had like elden Rang, Like I feel like there's been
some big last years, but this year, I'm not so
sure what's going to be in there. So what do
you what are you thinking right now?
Speaker 2: I think, like, to me, it's not that it's a
heavy hitter the same way as like eld Ring anything,
but I think just because it's back to basics and
it took people by surprise, I think Astro kind of
wins in a land slide. Come Game of the Year.
I think because we've talked about before. I can't remember
what year it was there was an independent game that won,
and I can't remember what hayes And for me, it's
one of these things where in the years where they
don't have those big like not even triple A like
quadruple a big you know, like you said, zeld.
Speaker 1: Did win the overall game of the year, there's one.
Speaker 2: Year, there's one game. There's one year that an independent
game did win. I thought, because I thought we talked
about that, I made that point where it.
Speaker 1: Was just like, I know it, Celeste got a lot
of love, but I don't think that one he was
a nom but I don't think it won the actual game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even what was that year, like the fighting
game want, I can't remember what it was? It was?
Uh uh is it near? Not? What's the one? It's
like it's like another Soul's like type of game and
you're neo yeah, like that one. Like there's a couple
of years when you don't have those. It's an interesting race.
So I'm not saying, well, no, I was gonna say,
I'm not gonna say it's a showing, but I think
it is just because that that week just felt like
if you weren't playing ASHDREEAMSS and on everyone was playing it.
It felt I'm not saying it's gonna be as much
as that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got I got the list here, So okay,
last year bulls Gate three to one, the year before that,
Elden Ring. I'm skipping back two years Last of Us
Part two, one before that, Zecro of the year before,
God of War, Breath of the Wild, Overwatch, which are
three dragon Age but the one weird one in the
mix is twenty twenty one where it takes two won it.
That's the why I thing you were thinking of, yeh,
not quite an indie game, but still like whoa, that's
a that's out of left field pick for the Game
of the Year. Win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And for me, like I said, it didn't reach
the hype of that, but Astra bought that we could
release felt a lot like Zelda Breath of the Wild,
where that's the reason I bought that game because everyone
just had such high praise of gay I gotta see
what this is all about. This one I held back
on because I was doing other stuff, but I think
Astra will take it. I think there's things like Hell
Divers where it's like, yeah, it's one of those like
and I haven't played it and people have tons of fun,
but it's one of these things where it's just like,
because the amount of surprise success, how can you not.
Because there's the two things we always talk about, right,
There's like best game direction and then there's Game of
the Year, where I always think it's kind of like
best picture. We're game in the year kind of has
a fastitude of multiple things and like talk and hype
and things. I think that has something to do with that.
I don't think hell Divers would win, but that for
the first four months of the year, that was the conversation,
how well it did, how much of a surprise it was.
So I feel like to me that also signifies for
game of the year, Like if you are the talk
of the gaming culture for about three months, that takes
a lot because games we live in a society where
everything is quick. You know, that's out huge, and then
on the next thing, on the next thing. Hell Divers
it felt like every week it's like, oh, broke this
sales record, Oh broke this streaming record, Oh it did
this and that. So it was one of these things
where it was like and no one happened on the
Bengo card. It's not like even Astro I think once
it was those trailers got out. I think a lot
of hype built up, and I think it's still sold
better than I thought it was gonna But Hell Divers
had preview, like none of us thought it was gonna
be like that, So I feel like that. I feel
like you got like a didn't File seven or Final Fantasy.
They yeah, that'll probably take up a slot. I'm sure
there'll be some other independent game that I'm not sure
what would go there.
Speaker 1: But when that's gonna, I think is like the biggest
one of the year, but I don't I don't see
that in the norms for the Game of the Year.
I think it's gonna easily win debut Indie and Indie
Game of the Year, but I don't think as much
as I love UFO fifty, I think it's a bit
too niche. I could see it being a non for
best Indie game, but I think the Latro it maybe
has a chance at a norm for Game of the Year,
but I definitely don't think it would win that and the.
Speaker 2: Only other one I like feel strongly about making that
list because I was just looking at big games that
released this year, same kind of sense of I think
there's maybe people would say there's better games in that realm.
But the blackmth wukon that was another surprise, right, and
big kind of came out there, and I feel like
they always have a Soul's like game in there.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that one will be a little bit
overshadowed by the fact that it came out like just
after the elden Ring DLC and so people think back
on like their best from software type game of the year,
they're gonna think back on that DLC rather than that
game which kind of followed it a month or two later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or maybe they just have like great memories and
it's a Horizon Breath of wild right where it's like
I just spent two weeks playing both these great things,
and you can't nominate Elan Rings like yeah, and you
can't nominate Elan Ring for game the right like the DLC.
So it's like, I just feel like there's always a
Soul's like game in there. So that's why I feel
like that will go there another game that sold and
reviewed a lot better than I definitely thought it was
gonna be. So those would be the ones I feel
comfortable as hell Divers that I'm trying to think if
there's any big like I'm not sure, do you think
the Zelda game like does that qualify?
Speaker 1: I think that'll be in you know, best Family game,
like the best Nintendo game category. Uh, I don't think
anywhere else, Honestly, I don't. I don't think that one
Squeaking Through. It's a great game, but I don't think
I don't think it's game of the Year caliber for people.
Speaker 2: Do you have anything else that's like Nintendo was, They
feel like they always get in there. But I feel
like there's nothing this year that's like a would be
in Game of the Year that I think, oh, here's
a slot.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think like they had the they had
the paper Mario Thus in Your Door remake, which people
love that, but like that is a remake and it's
pretty it's not like a Residenteval remake, Like it's a
pretty bare bones one. So I don't think that would
have a chance. But I do think this is a
an off year for Nintendo in that sense. It's it's
the classic, It's the year before the new Switch comes out,
where like they're saving the heavy hitters for that new one.
So I don't I don't think it. I don't think
they're gonna have any a big presence in that way.
The only other game that I think is gonna be
I think it'll definitely be in the Nooms. I don't
know if it'll win, but I honestly, I'm I'm so
split on what's gonna win Between the games we've talked about.
I'm not so sure that Astrobot just like has its
way with the award there, I feel like it could
go to I think it could go to A Held
divers But the other one is Metaphor E Fantasia, which
came out like about three weeks ago now, which is
again that I've heard nothing but just like the highest
of praise of from absolutely everyone who has played it.
My only concern for it is like is it big enough?
Is it mainstream enough? And I do think because it's
pretty much like it's the It's it's not Persona six,
but it's pretty much Persona six, right, And I do
feel like Persona five was so big that I'm wondering
if it's big enough that like now the next game
that follows it is is mainstream enough? Yeah, So we'll
see what happens there, because I've just I've heard nothing
but like the highest praise for that game other than
like people's favorite like Indie Darlings of the Year. I
feel like that's like a lot of people like favorite
thing that they played, other than like a Ring DLC,
which I know is a big going for people with
that's definitely not gonna be a Game of the Year contender.
I don't think it's the Game Awards best like expansion
or ongoing game whatever, but not in that category. So
I think that one has a I think it will
definitely be in the noombs, but I do think it's
uphill battle for it to claim Game of the Year.
But since there isn't that clear front runner, I don't know,
maybe it does have a chance with and it. Like
I don't think recency bias is a thing for the
Game Awards. I don't think that's ever really affected any game.
I feel like it it's pretty split of like games
that come earlier in the year versus later. But that
could help that one a little bit, that it's like
fresh on people's minds and they might just be finishing
it right as the votes come through kind of things.
Speaker 2: I've heard.
Speaker 1: It's pretty long as well, like Persona, like one hundred
hour kind of game. So that's my that's my last
kind of maybe thought. And I don't think anything else
coming out this month or and obviously the cutoffs usually
like mid November, so I don't think anything coming on
in the next couple of weeks is gonna climb to
that tier.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, And like, obviously I don't
think this would be in the tier, but you have
stuff like Indiana Jones comes out after the window, right, Yeah,
like even for someone let's say it was like, oh surprise,
Like I think we all think it's gonna be like
like a seven, maybe eight out of ten. Maybe we
get like, oh no, actually this had the goods. I'm surprised,
but that's not gonna be in there, right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and there's always that weird thing too with
the Game Awards, where like technically anything from I guess
end of November to December of last year is eligible
for this year. But I don't think there was any
I can't think of any other top of my head
that are in that tier that are gonna climb in
and be kind of like late last year games that
make it into the Game.
Speaker 2: Of the Year would have been avowed, would have been avowed, but.
Speaker 1: Should have We'll see it.
Speaker 2: Could have been it could have it could have been
the game that came out later and blew people away,
and it had like you said, I agreed with in
the Reccy bias, but it would have been like maybe
the last one. So it's a bit more in the conversation.
But yeah, we'll see that. That's my I'm you know,
throw Trest told you on the ashra Bot that I
feel like it fits that crowd, the crowd of the
critics that vote. I feel like it fits with them, So.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah. The other one, I just thought, I
don't know that because it just came out last week,
because Dragon Age Vail Guard just came out, Mikes and
I surprise, Yeah, I need to see how that conversation
develops over the next week or two and when people
think about it in terms of whether or not it
cracks into that that top top tier, because it seems
like it's not quote I think a lot there's enough
till Battle where it's very balders Gate three like, but
it's not as good as Balderskate three because very few
games are. Is kind of where a lot of people are,
and that's where I kind of feel like a vout
would have been as well, where people like about is fun.
I like it. It's a bit shorter and easier than Baldersgate,
but it doesn't have the depth and it's not nearly
as good. I feel like that's kind of what the
conversation is gonna be around that game, and I feel
like that might be the same case for Dragon Age,
and we'll see how games that kind of are inspired
by Baldskate three and how they can succeed in the future,
because I'm sure that's gonna happen as well. Yeah, yeah,
Any any final thoughts here, Travis.
Speaker 2: No, the only thing I really hope because you know,
as I said, i won't be doing cast, but I'll
still be hanging around the Discords and stuff. I'm also gonna, yeah,
that's that's the place to find because I'm.
Speaker 1: Also you're not busy playing GM mode of.
Speaker 2: Course, yeah, I'm watching five kids. But my plan is, yeah,
i won't be on the cast. I'm gonna take a
Twitter blackout as well too. I'm gonna go off those
social medias, but with Discord, I'll still be in there.
So go on, touch touch say in touch touch me.
That's no, that's only Emily's job. But I what I'm
hoping for because I saw a lot of crackpot theories
this week because model IF they changed like some of
their website design, so people are like, oh, they're getting
ready for it. So that's all I'm hoping for. My
realistic pitch is I hope that we get a wonder
Woman announcements. I feel like that fits game Awards my
unrealistic pitches. I hope that we get something more of
Alliance for but that won't happen, But I just I wish.
But uh yeah, that's that's really the only one. I'm
really There's other franchises like of course, yeah, like a
new actual logis manched. Like you said, I feel like
a lot of those heavy hitters gonna be saved for
you know, next gen, next gen. Yeah, and I guess
my lasting, I guess, you know, move over the Marvel
lines four. What I really like is some sort of
Star Wars a Lot or Star Wars Night's will Republic
actual update. But yeah, but I think Wonder Him's actually
realistic to happen. Yeah, I think it's time and uh yeah,
that's what I'm hoping forward that one because I love
those Loither Rings games. I think that'd fit with the
Bonder Room stuff. And I hope it's I hope it's
a good show because we've had a couple just mantifying
Kielly hosted shows, so I hope it's. Hope it's a
banger want at least so hopefully cool.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. This is a very fun,
very fun episode, and thank you everyone for listening. We
will be back next week as we usually are, with
more side quests to see you then, bye bye