Speaker 1: Sophia Cruz, my guest for the evening. You know exactly
where you can find her at. Sophia Cruise links to
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You go look, daddy's got other expenses right now. Ladies
and gentlemen, My guest for the evening, Sophia Cruz. Sophia,
thanks so much for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you so much for having me.
I really appreciate it. I'm so excited to be here. Sorry,
no Willie Nelson over here.
Speaker 1: Your dog's name is Willie Nelson. My cat's name is David.
My wife was like, we need a cool, interesting name,
and for this one eyed cat we got and I
go call him David. She was, what's cool and interesting
about that? Igo? Have you ever met a fucking cat
named David, like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: It's a good point, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you. This is an odd question
to begin with, Sophia, But if you if the industry
were to go away tomorrow, bye, goodbye, it's gone, it's banned,
it's whatever, what would you put on your resume as
your job title that you did over the last X
amount of years.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's an interesting one.
Speaker 2: I guess that would depend sort of on the political
climate or where I'm living. I have thought about relocating
to Europe several times, so I feel like there I
can easily put I was adult talent. I was in
the adult film industry, you know, because that's a skill
set flavored or not.
Speaker 1: Totally is I just I think about it even more
than that though. It's just your job is not just
hot porn star girl. It is social media manager. It's
I'm not sure you know of your team behind you,
but at some point.
Speaker 3: It's a do everything by myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, admin manager, social media manager, editor, adult film star
doesn't just cover all of the work you do, right,
It seems like.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a huge it's a dynamic position, you know,
and it goes based on like what your flavor of
sex work is too. I know girls that are only
content creators, you know, they have their own battles compared
to girls that do strictly studio work. You know, we
and do you know the fact that we can actually
pivot and know how to navigate each kind of sector
of sex work I think is really interesting. You know,
we all go getters. You know, we're hustlers. We're trying
to We're trying to do it, you know literally. Hah.
Speaker 1: That's what's so cool about this. It's the job itself.
The industry itself is not like I guess maybe there
are different types of welders. I was going to use
that as a thing. You can do underwater welding. You
do this and that, But there's no like one defined
path for any girl in this industry. You can play
it slow and maybe not make as much as you want.
It could just be a side gig, it could be
for fun. You know, there's just you could go full mainstream,
your faces out there, you're doing everything. I think it's
great and it creates a lot of great opportunities. Let
me ask you, how did you Let's start with the
boring one here that I'm sure everyone asked you, how
did you initially decide to get into the adult entertainment
industry in whatever field that was, camming, dancing, you know,
whatever it was, when you go, I can't do vanilla shit,
I have to step over this line.
Speaker 3: That was in college.
Speaker 2: I was in nursing school at the time in Denver,
and I remember I was just like, you know what,
I kind of always wanted to try stripping, and at
that point, I was like, you know what, if I'm
going to do it, I'm going to do it now.
You know, there's plenty of research out there online. You know,
I went to all the forums. I read as much
as I could. There weren't a lot of strippers back
then as there are now. And I try it to
date myself because this was well over ten years ago,
but so it's kind of hard to meet us in
person or connect on social media because you know, we
weren't exactly that active.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was just, you know what, I was
nineteen at the time.
Speaker 2: I'm hot, I'm young, I got energy, like I want
to try sex, workout, and I remember since that day,
I'm like, oh my god, I love.
Speaker 3: This, this is fantastic. I want to keep going with this.
Speaker 1: D Okay, did that fit? It sounds like it did,
but correct me if I'm wrong. Did that fit your
personality up to that point? Like I could tell my
wife right now I'm going to try and be a
hit man, and she'd go, well, you're a fucking pussy,
Like you can't do anything? Did that Like if I
had told some parent in the high school you went to, like, oh,
you know, Sofia went on to become a stripper, would
they be like, yeah, that makes sense or would they
be like no, not Sophia.
Speaker 2: Really, I think there's always been a kind of weirdness
to me, you know. So I'm actually like telling childhood
friends of mine like, oh, yeah, you know, this is
what I ended up doing.
Speaker 3: They actually weren't surprised at all.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: I guess I kind of fit.
Speaker 2: I think people realized before I did, you know, kind
of what my path would be.
Speaker 1: Sure, what was the biggest surprise when you started stripping? Like,
was there anything where you had this impression in your mind,
either from like watching Late night HBO back in fucking
early two thousands or the internet in general, where you
were like, strip club will be like this, the strippers
will be like this. The owners and whatever will be
like this. And you said you did your research, but
they vary by club, the club and everything else. What
like caught you off guard where you went, oh fuck,
I didn't know this was, you know, in part of
the whole equation.
Speaker 2: I think the thing that shocked me the most was
because when I did my research, I knew enough, you know,
to be you know, kind of watch yourself around girls,
don't give up personal information, make sure you're working at
a safe club. Do your research, see if it's a
safe environment in general. Try to see which manager is
creepy or not. But I think the thing that threw
me off the most was actually the sexual contact in
the level, because I remember I was nineteen at the
time when I started dancing, so which is a little
fairly young now that I think about it. And I
hadn't had a lot of sexual partners either before I
started dancing too, So I think that kind of threw
me off. Was just the barrage of just sexual energy.
But at the same time, it threw me off, but
I enjoyed it. I was like, oh my god, this
is awesome. Yeah, we're all having fun, We're all turned
on Its hot hot girls everywhere guys having fun.
Speaker 1: Can I ask have you always been a hot girl?
And have you always known you were a hot girl?
Because I would never walk into any kind of room
with that kind of energy. I've never have once in
my life, Like I could walk into a fucking meeting, alcoholics,
anonymous meeting and be like, everyone hates me here, I'm
fucking loser. I'm the worst person here. No one likes me.
What gave you that confidence to be able to do that? Uh?
Speaker 2: I just I've always been told that I have an
amazing body. But I will preface this with that I
was an ugly ducking growing up. Yes, I had braces
up until college, so I battled with acne when I
was younger too. I wasn't always blond as brunette, so
I was an ugly duckling. And then when I hit college,
I was like, oh man, you know what, I got
some stuff going on, like I can do this, okay,
So yeah, and then what few sexual partners I had
were just like, oh my god, your body's fucking killer.
And I'm like, you know what, you are right, I'm
gonna put this to the test.
Speaker 3: And I did.
Speaker 1: There you go, did you have a what was the
longest time you were at one club? Like, did you
ever jump or do you like stay at the same place?
Speaker 2: Uh? I tend to jump once in a while, depending
where I'm living. But the longest I believe has been
six years so far?
Speaker 1: Did you or do you? Did you? Do you have
a song? There? This is just Sophia's. No one else
touches the song except for her.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I don't know if I can say, because
it's kind of a what is it? It's called marijuana
or pussy by Brazilian girls and it's literally just going.
Speaker 3: Pussy, pussy, pussy, marijuana, pussy, pussy, pussy, you say my song?
Speaker 2: No one was allowed to touch it otherwise the rath
is sofia.
Speaker 1: Okay, down, very fair. I have this question because I
one time, after I don't know, college graduation or something,
I took all my friends out. We went to Philly
in Jersey. We went to Philly to a strip club
and it was all these people who had never gone.
Speaker 3: Before, right, like I'm interesting.
Speaker 1: I brought like Best Buy workers that I used to
work with over there, and you know, these guys were
making twelve bucks an hour at the time, and I go,
all right, let's go. So I'm, you know, tipping all
the way you're supposed to tip. At the one in
Philly it was full nude, but it's you know, you
a dollar when they come around, or a tip when
they come around and ask if they want if you
want them to turn around, you give another tip. I'm
watching my friends. Just hi, Hi, nice to meet you,
and not tipping. The end of the night, we did account.
This person was down it's gonna sound smaller, thirty four dollars.
This person was down forty two dollars.
Speaker 3: Max is ma some people you know, Max.
Speaker 1: Was down three seventy five at the end of the night.
After buying, everyone dances and this and that ip. There
you go exactly. I tell you this long, boring story
so that I can answer this question. How can a
broke guy go to a party at a strip club respectfully?
Like I have no money right now, I got fifteen
bucks to my name. I want to be respectful. There's
this bachelor party going on, whatever it is, you.
Speaker 3: Know, obligated to attend.
Speaker 1: How do I do this respectfully to not insult the performers.
Speaker 2: There cool a couple things that you can do. First,
as I like to say, if well, one, you're probably
gonna have a girl approach you first. So I always
like to say, hey, tell her right off the bat,
you know, and just be like, hey, I'm here attending
a bachelor birthday, whatever the occasion is, I'm here's my boss.
I am flat broke right now. I can't spend any dollars.
You're beautiful. Always follow up the compliment, and if you
don't mean it, because it makes it, it makes it
go down easier. And then if you can just be like, okay,
that guy is your vibe, you know, like he might
spend money or that guy, but just let him know
off the bat.
Speaker 3: That way, they're not you know, wasting their time.
Speaker 2: Because you know, I've had guys been like oh you know,
I don't like strip clubs, or you're not my type,
you know, excuses like that. We'll try to you know,
work around, you know, but if you just say, hey,
I can't afford it right now, I literally can't, that's
the most respectful way. And really, if she gets mad
at you after that point, that's that's.
Speaker 3: That's her problem.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, if you.
Speaker 2: Lead with that, lead with that, don't sit there for
an hour and be like, oh, hey, I can't afford
the forty dollars dance.
Speaker 3: You know, that's kind of a dick move. You just
go right off with.
Speaker 1: It totally for sure. And and I've been the guy
with money at the club, and I've been the guy
hitting the ATM twice, going yo, that's not going to
clear tomorrow. I don't know what it is. So you
always have to find a way to be respectful and remember,
anyone out there, this is a job. Like treat these
people the way you would want to be treated if
someone came into your job. Would I grab your dick
if you were working at Subway? No, I might, but
I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Well, I can't say well, don't get me in shruble
because I do that in the clubs. But that's my job,
you know.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this last one about
strip clubs here only because I always find the environment
and atmosphere so interesting. I always make this comparison to
how how's the back room at your strip club? I
do have one more after this, now that I think
about it, but how's the best level strip clup?
Speaker 3: Questions?
Speaker 2: Keep it rolling?
Speaker 1: How's the back room at the club? You either currently
do work at or you know, stop in on or
anytime you do it. Because on Twitter at least, do
you see porn stars kind of like friendly and like
there's the occasional someone will say something nasty and there's
a dog pile, but everyone seems like kind of nice
and kind of this and that. And then I've heard
the opposite about strip clubs, where it's cutthroat. It's a
little bit like you're not getting some sweet mentor mommy there.
It's everyone's looking for dances and you're going to steal
it from me. How about you? What kind of back
rooms at clubs have you seen and been a part of.
Speaker 2: I will say there are two different kinds of strip clubs.
That's management run and it's stripper run. So it's either
run by the strippers or it's run by management. Both
of those clubs have completely different dynamics. Usually when it's
heavy on management, there isn't exactly room for drama. They'll
be like, no, listen, you know you have an issue
with her, stay away. But if it's a stripper run
strip club, I will say it is kind of a
free for all you kind of it's I hate to
say it's not necessarily like a hazing, but it's almost
just like you got to learn your chops, you know,
like we all came into this with, you know, a
pair of heels that weren't stripper heels and a cocktail dress.
Speaker 3: You know, just trying to do it.
Speaker 2: So you know, it is a different environment of sex
work are it is technically a competition. You are competing
against different girls, you know, in the same night, and
I like to put it at every night or day
is a different battle, so you know, you never know
what you're walking in with. And I go, that's also
based on your style too. I know girls that are
super aggressive, they don't care about friends, they don't care
about drama, and then there's girls that care about keeping
the peace. You know. It's kind of what you go
into the club with that attitude?
Speaker 1: Gotcha last week? And you didn't spoil it with that
last answer, but you almost kind of made it. So
there's two parts to it. What about hierarchies? Are there
hierarchies like these women have been here the longest, so
we respect them, or this one's the manager's girlfriend, like
have you ever seen any kind of hierarchy? And then
how do you deal with that. Also. The second part
of that is there any have you ever been in
a club where there's a girl that just everyone doesn't like,
like all the people who work there, like yo Joan
is such an idiot? Why do we even keep her here?
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I apologize, Well, I'll do that last one quickly,
because that's an easy answer. That's just money. If she's
a sucking or making a shit ton of money for everybody,
bad attitudes will eventually get weeded out. But it's you know,
you're only good as your last envelope in a strip club.
You know we're all there to make money. You know,
sometimes you're not there to make friends. No, so sorry,
can you remind me of the first part of the.
Speaker 1: Question, hierarchy? Have you ever seen or been involved in
a hierarchy where you're like, oh, I should be friends
with her because she's close with this guy, Like, have
you ever had to do any of that behind the scenes?
I can't believe how much of that shit is in
office work, So I just wonder if it applies towards
that as well.
Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, except it's a whole nother animal
because we're all drinking too there's girls that are on drugs,
party atmosphere. So it's it's really you have to learn
the vibe of the club when you show up, and
that's something that you usually get with the experience. You
notice who's making money, who's friends with management, who's fucking
the managers, you know, who doesn't like you so and
it's also something that if you're kind of a more
seasoned stripper too, that a habit is is that you
usually keep to yourself, you know, for the most part,
until you understand the environment that you're working in. So
you're kind of a little slow to make friends for
interaction because you don't know where this girl's coming from.
She could be trying to rob you, she could be
trying to be a friend she you know. So you know,
that is kind of something that girls do to kind
of get a basis of the hierarchy because there obviously
is one. You know, veterans are usually you know, top
of the pyramid and you kind of just trickle down there.
But they set the vibe with management too, so you
kind of just react based on that. And again, it's territorial.
Every clubs different, every state's different, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was I read an interview you had done.
I always like to try and do as much research
and dig through stuff. I won't say it because you
skipped it earlier, but you got into the industry later.
I was, by the way, I was blown away. I
thought twenty two twenty three, so that's just me.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Do you think it benefited you getting into this industry
after having real world? By the way, she's not like
fifty or anything, folks, She's just not twenty two?
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks for giving that that shut up?
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, well they have to see your picture and
go like, oh, she can't be. You'd be the hottest
fifty year old anyone's ever seen.
Speaker 2: Right, are you joking? I put that on a T shirt.
I'm fucking fifty.
Speaker 1: Uh. Do you think it benefited you getting in a
little bit late? Like? Have you heard horror stories that
girls have gone through in the porn industry and go
I didn't necessarily have to go through that. Some of
the startup stuff where you have now you do your
own self booking as well, so I guess that you
deal with that as well. But scammers and this people,
do you think it was beneficial to get in not
eighteen nineteen years old.
Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, absolutely, And it kind of blows
my mind that I was stripping, because I'd actually find
stripping much more dangerous than porn, So it kind of
blows my mind that I started that early. But no,
I do say I am fortunate that I started adult
film when I did. I was a bit older as
twenty seven, and this is actually post only fans, and
so from my understanding, again, I wasn't in the industry
that there was kind of a renaissance period after only fans,
and that there was a big shift in power from
studios to performers and talent. So I think that was
a huge help as well. I was actually pretty fortunate too.
I was picked up. My first agent wasn't exactly the best. One,
wasn't a great experience. My first shoot was a fantastic experience.
But no, after that I got picked up. You know,
I was pretty fortunate by Ama Brian, you know, so
I you know, he really kind of snowballed my career
from there, and he kind of just put a good
taste in my mouth. I was like, you know what,
this is professional porn, and I do hear the horror stories.
I do know what women have gone through with in
men in the industry, so and I do think I
did dodge a little bit of that too, based on
my age, even though I did look fairly younger when
I started. People read the idea, They're like, oh, you're
twenty seven.
Speaker 3: You know you're not easily.
Speaker 2: Influenced, you know as a girl who was in a
teeny sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never really considered that before. Yeah, they'll look
at you and maybe even bring you in and then
when they see that or whatever, they might go, oh,
we can't no offense to the work the guys out there,
but the thumbbags, I will say, they'll look at you
and go like, oh, we can't get one over on
this girl, like she's not going to be tricked. Okay,
good yep, yep.
Speaker 2: So I have experienced that before. Or someone will try
to book me and they'll see my ID and they'll
be like, oh, ghosted.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: It's also an interesting experience.
Speaker 1: I want to do a thing called stat check. We
use the Internet Adult Film database. These numbers are inaccurate.
They are not going to be right. I say this
to every female performer I have on the show. They
all go Okay, good, nice. I give the numbers. They
then go like this, those numbers are off. I go, yeah,
I know, I know, I know these are these are
going to be wrong. They don't update it often enough.
So the amount of scenes that I have recorded, not
recorded that I read you did the one hundred and
twenty scenes male performers, you've worked with fifty nine female performers.
You've worked with seventeen one AVN NOM Is that correct?
Speaker 3: That is correct?
Speaker 1: Yes, didn't win though, right, No, No.
Speaker 2: No tripter this year. But there's always next year.
Speaker 1: There's always next year. There's always next year. So do
you think you have a definitive scene so far? Like
if I were to say, Sophie Cruise, nice to meet you.
Your poets are great. What would I watch to get
all of you, to get you know what the essence
of what the Sophia Cruz brand is.
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a really tough question. It's a really good one, huh.
I would say.
Speaker 2: My DP Diva films by my show Claudio and then
now is actually my first DP scene too, that was
with Donnie Sims and Milan Panjevitch, and I just think
the energy that I carried my esthetic, I really pride
myself on taking Dick really well so and for me,
I feel like my personality shined and Claudio somehow got
it on camera chat.
Speaker 1: Have you no names, but that sounds like the work
of a good director. Have you also worked with bad directors?
And what separates the difference between that? Is it an
on set vibe? Is it how they work?
Speaker 2: I would feel it's mostly effort and what they're doing.
You know, when you show up and it are just
just like, all right, I don't care, that's just another day.
It's just like, you know, you're not there to make magic.
You're there because you just you know, you get a
film the scene, you know, But that's usually that's just
based on vibe whatever they're they're trying to do. Some directors,
you know, they just want to go out and make
the best possible content that they can in that day.
And then some people are just like, you know, just
burn them midnight oil.
Speaker 1: It's funny you said earlier, like these guys couldn't trick
me into it, And then I was looking, I was like,
what are some of my favorite scenes of you?
Speaker 2: DP?
Speaker 1: Diva love that obviously Glory Whole Cream Pie. I mean
one so they didn't have to talk into the group stuff.
It seems like that was kind of a choice you
made where there was no one in your ear going
like what about six guys?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Oh, no way, that was all me too.
Speaker 2: I think there was supposed to be less too, and
I was just like, yeah, just go just do more.
Speaker 3: You can do more.
Speaker 2: That's okay, I actually think more we're supposed to show
up to.
Speaker 1: It kept changing, so again, no one necessarily had to
coax you into that. Is that just something you were
excited to do. Had you done that previously in your life,
had been in group situations before?
Speaker 2: No, I was actually saving that for on camera, So yeah,
and I was really excited to do about too, and
I did plan that as well.
Speaker 3: I kind of held off.
Speaker 2: I know some girls don't exactly care about timing, but
I kind of made sure to space out, you know
what I was doing, because my first scene was anal
so I couldn't exactly say that when so I saved
the gang bang for you know, my next big you know,
oh my god moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, I know. It's the hottest thing I've
ever done.
Speaker 2: And I'm so happy I started getting into gang bangs
because I was missing out.
Speaker 1: Now let me as do you like both sides as
far as domination goes on it? Because I always see
gang bangs as one of two things. It's the rag
dog girl getting you know, not not violent at all,
but tossed around kind of and you over here, and
then there's the woman that's like you here, you and me?
What do you prefer? Do you prefer either of those?
Speaker 2: I've been told, Uh, I've been referred to as a
power bottom. Okay, So I am submissive. I am not.
I don't have a dominant personality. I mean I can
do it obviously for work, but my preference is to
be a sub But I do like to please on
an aggressive level. I don't know if that makes sense
at all, but uh, I just want to be like, yep,
please use my pussy milkyr cock, Yeah, do it?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, no, I get that. I I kind of
like that too, and I try and talk my wife
into that, but we've been together so long it just
kind of gets cynical and like sarcastic, and we've been
working on that. Just tell me almost angrily what you
want from me, okay, and let not aggressive, not like
dominant at all but just you know, that's what I
don't know. Now, I'm just getting into my own shit here, Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Apologize to It's gonna make me come so hard.
Speaker 1: What's what's the craziest week you've ever had of shooting? Now?
You said a second ago, you know you built up,
You've saved off this and that. Have you ever had
a week that was just like at the end of it,
you go like frozen. P's is what I'm gonna be
sitting on for the weekend because this was fucking intense.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if you're familiar with Angela Godshak in a
progue in Czech Republic.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've seen his work, Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, he is known for doing hardcore and his
one hundred percent hell sets are truly one hundred percent hell.
But there you are such masterpieces. It's just such beautiful
stuff that he does. But every shoot is anal and
they're all hardcore shoots. And when you're there, it's not
like I'm there for a couple of months. You know,
I'm only there for about a week or so, so
I'm filming every day while i'm there. So first day
is going to be DP second day might be break.
It might just be boy girl anal. Fourth day might
be five. It's usually like five guys gang bang. Fourth
day it might be two girl DP gang bang. Every
day's dpe if it's not anal, Yeah, that is certainly okay,
all right, don't give me any numbers obviously at all.
Speaker 1: But do you leave that trip going, I'm gonna buy
a house, now buy another one, like do you?
Speaker 3: No, No, you do it for the content. European rates
are half the race in the US.
Speaker 1: Oh. I didn't know that because I had always heard,
you know, the prog and this and that they shoot
hard over there. So I just figured, I don't know,
week dollar conversion rate, maybe it might work out. No,
no good, huh No, I.
Speaker 3: Actually do it for less money.
Speaker 2: I do it just for the honor and just amazing shit.
Come out and have me look like that. You know
it's arc and I.
Speaker 3: Can't get that in the US.
Speaker 2: So I go out to Czech Republic.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, come back home and buy a matchbox car.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You don't do it for the content, you don't do
it for the money.
Speaker 1: Totally get it, totally get it. How does it feel
to be the center of one of those scenes, a
group scene with a bunch of guys, does it get
overwhelming at all? Do you feel that at all during
the course of it. Do you feel any anxiety at
the beginning or is it just all excitement pure all
the way through.
Speaker 2: I will say when it's a group setting like that,
I can't get some anxiety if it is anal simply
because it's like your pussy is easy. You know you
can manage that, but with anally, you know it can
require some more planning. So for me, my biggest stress
is just making sure I have a nice, easy day
for everybody. We don't want to do multiple cuts, you know,
stuff like that. You know, you want to show up
and make everyone's life a little easier. So now once
I get in it and I'm performing, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
that is just like there's no worry at all, But
like in anticipation for the scene, yeah, that's probably like
my only anxiety.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you uh? I don't know how to It's
so funny. This is the first time in like almost
two hundred episodes I felt a little shy asking a question,
but it leads it leads into another question. Do you
come during your scenes, oh all the time. Okay, So
during a gang bang scene, do you eventually just kind
of numb out or are you still able to like
finish towards the end of it.
Speaker 2: No, I'm blessed. I'm very sensitive down there. So for me,
like I've had instances where I've like just had to
pee really bad and I'll have an orgasm just sitting
in a chair. Yeah, So so for me if anything,
like I can get a little over stimulated, but at
that point, like I just feels so good.
Speaker 3: It's like one of the best sensations.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Okay, all right, if you were to look back
at some of your first scenes, do you still feel
good about them? Not like morally or anything like that,
but just like quality your performance. I can't go back
and listen to any of my early shows. I will
have trouble listening to this one, okay, because I don't
want to see myself. I don't want to hear myself.
I don't want to do any of that. If you
go back to your early stuff, do you have any
of that feeling or are you proud? Right off the bat?
And both are acceptable obviously.
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm I'm proud right off the bat. But then
the performer in me likes to look and likes to
critique myself too. So if like, for instance, and I'm like, oh, well,
you know in that scene he was over there, I'm
going to make sure to pay special attention when I'm
watching it so I can go, you know what, that's
what I look like from his position, Like, now I
see why he wanted me to open up in this angle.
Now I see why he wanted me to do this,
you know. And that's just something I just do just
to im proof. You know, that's my that's my thing.
And then I obviously watch it to get off too
as well.
Speaker 1: But do you are you able to do that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's especially with my partner, you know, that's our
first thing to review, the review the city, see how
hot it is.
Speaker 1: If I saw myself naked, I'd throw up. I think
I'm pretty sure. So that congratulations on that one. Can
we how far can we talk about your partner at all?
I've seen you mentioned it in interviews and this and that.
I just don't know how comfortable I read you were
you've been with How do you refer to your partner?
I'm Mary Okay, husband, okay, all right, all right, and
you never know it's a scene partner, it's this, it's
that I understand.
Speaker 2: Well, you never know. With porn industry, some people don't
like to label him as my partner instead of my husband, you.
Speaker 1: Know, totally, and I get that. I totally get that.
Do can I ask and again cut me off anywhere
you want? Was this dynamic? It seems like, did you
get in this relationship before entering the porn industry?
Speaker 2: Yes? I did?
Speaker 1: Okay, So was there ever any discussion or was it
always like cool, this is our relationship, this is our
Was there ever anything like, you know, I don't know
if you should do this, Sophia, Well, I'm really leaning
towards doing this. Or was it always just encouragement all
the way through?
Speaker 2: Oh? A total encouragement. He's been my biggest advocate. And
the reason, uh, we even thought about it was because
we would just pose dirty videos of us fucking online
for fun. Sure, not even going for for content. We
weren't even making money off of it. We just you know,
wanted to show people how are we are fucking? And
he was just like you know what, honey, like you
would be a great porn star and I was just
like yeah, I was like, show me some stuff, like
what do you think? And then I was just like, huh,
I can fuck like that.
Speaker 3: I can do that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I was already been a stripper for
a while, and I was like, you know what, why
not let's do it?
Speaker 1: So then can I was that the first time we
had opened the idea of this relationship being open or
were you guys always kind of party and.
Speaker 3: We were always been cool like that.
Speaker 2: I would never wear that jealous type or anything like that. Yeah,
I'm extremely fortunate to be in such an amazing marriage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha. I just always find that dynamic interesting. And
I always wonder if there's boundaries set up? Do you
and this is the last question I asked about that,
do you have shooting and you don't even have to
tell me what they are if you choose not to,
do you have shooting boundaries set up like your husband's, Like,
you know, I will fully support you this thing or
working with this person or you know, doing this type
and it's not me. I really would prefer not And
then you have a discussion about it or is it
just all whatever you were comfortable with we're running with.
Speaker 3: We always have discussions about it.
Speaker 2: So there's nothing that I don't do that he doesn't
know about or approves because it's it's a partnership.
Speaker 3: At least that's how we are.
Speaker 2: I know different couples have different boundaries, but there's nothing
that I don't do.
Speaker 3: I have no secrets for my husband.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 2: I literally said the moment he walks in the door,
blah blah blah bla blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Blah, no offense. I just thought of your husband, goes,
I wish you would keep more secrets from me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never honey.
Speaker 2: When I was prepping for my anal scene today, this
is what happened. He was like, I love you.
Speaker 1: Uh okay, this is an odd question, and I have
a couple more odd ones coming up towards the end.
But let me ask, is there anything that you find
And I'll clarify this too. It is not a It
is not an indictment of anyone that does any of
this stuff. It is not saying this person's bad because
they do this. I'm saying, is there anything that you
find somewhat morally objectionable that the industry does where shoots
or a type of content it puts out where you're like,
it just kind of gives you the ick, and you're like,
I don't think I would do that.
Speaker 3: I would say.
Speaker 2: Public facing kink play only because it's very difficult to
get strangers to consent to your play. And I know
we don't necessarily have this issue in the United States
because we you know, we have obscenity laws. You know,
you can't do this stuff in public. But I do know,
like when you say like slut walks or you know,
like kink walks, you know, like walking your sub you know,
walking your your your dog, you know, on a leash
in public, you know, you don't know if you're exposing
children to that.
Speaker 3: And so for me, that's just and I.
Speaker 2: Love public play too, like I've I would love to
walk down a street naked and have people take photos.
But again, it's hard to get people's consent to that.
So and you know, we're kind of have to be
stewards of you know, moral I don't know, sexually morals,
sexual morals.
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I don't know the phrase to put it, but we
almost have to be stewards. We're examples in the industry
and you know, and how sex should be done right.
So for me, that always kind of puts a sour
taste in my mouth, you know.
Speaker 1: You know, I've had that. I've never discussed this on
the show, but I'm a big fan of cum walks.
I think they're interesting. I think it's a woman going
out there show look how slutty I am. I have
this being ah blah blah blah whatever it is. But then, like,
could you imagine like your kid being like what's on
that lady's face? And you're like, oh.
Speaker 2: Fuck, if you're walking through a mall, like that's not okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're in an adult.
Speaker 2: Only setting, that's you know what that's because you know,
but it's you know, when you're in a public setting,
it's like extremely public.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's hard to.
Speaker 2: Get people's consent or doing that because they might not
you no, they might have religious boundaries, you know, and
might be offensive to them orally. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never considered that. That's really that's very interesting.
So you don't have any problem with the step phase
that we're in this last decade. Have you been a
step sister, daughter mother yet?
Speaker 3: Oh? I have yes plenty of times.
Speaker 2: But my argument with that, though, is that if you
don't have it available, what's gonna happen? Sure, so people
are going to go out and get that fantasy no
matter what. So I find that porn is a safer
way for people to live out their fantasies.
Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, it's not my kink, but I have heard
other performers say, you know when you really hear it.
When you hear it is when the performers like I
was real close to my brother growing up, like I
can't shoot this kind of stuff now, And then I
accept that too. Again, no judge. My thing is as
long as there's no kids or dogs in the room,
a shit what anyone's doing?
Speaker 3: Just yeah, fun exactly, it should be. It should be
that easy.
Speaker 2: But it goes into like the darker side of it too,
Like I've been shippers for so many years.
Speaker 3: I've had lap dance as a gentleman.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you look like my niece, you look like
my daughter, you look like But you know what if
you don't have an outlet for people you know that
have those thoughts, you know, sexual violence happens. And I
hate to say it, but it has its place in society,
you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Unfortunately it does. And I think you're
I think you're right. I think that line can probably
eventually be crossed. But you're giving them, you know, a
fantasy of what they want versus them getting it themselves.
I think at some point you have to go not
you and nothing you've said is you know, qualifies. But
if they're like, no, you shouldn't have that fantasy. Whatever
the push of that line is. And I don't think
the step stuff necessarily crosses that, you know. Let me
ask you, what does success look like to you in
this industry? Is it numbers? Is it do you want
two million followers? Is it awards? Do you want to
be covered in the room back there? Is it enough
so you can retire by forty and never have to
do this again? What is success to you?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a tough one. For me, it's recognition by
my peers, you Neil. I always value the fans, but
to have directors co talent, you know, to go, oh
my god, you killed it. You know. I don't necessarily
need awards or anything like that, but to get recognition
from peers, that for me is what does.
Speaker 1: It really Okay, interesting, all right, do you have anything
that is still on your sexual bucket list, either on
camera or not on camera?
Speaker 3: Yees?
Speaker 2: So I still have not done double anal penetration yet,
so I am planning on doing that this year though.
Speaker 3: How do you?
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I could understand if it was a
bunch of like small dick guys like all of my friends. Okay,
you're you're.
Speaker 3: Working, well, do you know what their dicks look like?
Speaker 1: Because I've sucked them?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: This is no. Uh how do you how do you
even prep for that? Do you take like a Campbell
soup can and said on it? Like? What is how
do you? How does this work?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 3: I have my own system.
Speaker 2: Now I have stretched my ass to take you know,
the amount of size i'd be appropriate for double anal penetration,
But uh no, you just get you just work your
way up to you know, a little stretching toy that's
you know, that way just slides.
Speaker 3: They slide right in.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think people have any idea how
much side work performers have to do. You're doing trainings
on your off day.
Speaker 3: It's muscle training. It's a muscle you know.
Speaker 1: They think you show up, you have sex for an hour,
you get paid twenty thousand dollars, you go home and
never have to do anything else.
Speaker 3: And I've heard that so many times, especially at the
strip club.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be so great. Yeah, wouldn't it be great?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, then everyone would be doing it?
Speaker 1: Uh? Is there any person and this will this will
be the time to call you out on it? Is
there any person you're still wanting to work with? Male
female director? Is there anyone top of your head? Name wise?
Speaker 3: Oh? Definitely Jules Jordan.
Speaker 2: I have yet to work with him, and I've seen
his work obviously, he's the legend. I do have some
more I do would like to work with Dread this year.
That would be very exciting. I'm always up for a
challenge because that certainly will be.
Speaker 1: That they Dread. Dread looks like if I got the
death penalty, they would go, do you want the electric
chair or Dread? And I would go the electric chair?
Speaker 2: The chair?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I saw on your your whatever X
I call it Twitter? Still I saw on your Twitter.
You're right, yeah, it's it's cuter. Okay, you're a gamer too,
have you? Do you have a Twitch app? Do you
have a Twitch channel yet?
Speaker 3: I do? Yes, I do Twitch.
Speaker 1: Is it just starting out? Are you growing it? What
are where are we at with it?
Speaker 3: I am growing.
Speaker 2: It's kind of been hard to navigate and you know,
scheduling when it comes to filming. So but this year
I've actually kind of gone into the group with it
the past couple of months, which I'm pretty happy about.
And I do game freak consistently, so I figured, uh,
you know, it's better to be on and you know,
have fun with people and fans. You know, it is
a totally different vibe too. I'm usually in pajamas and
drinking coffee. People have no idea what I do during
the day. They're just like random Twitch people that found me.
Speaker 1: Now, are you trying to keep these two worlds completely
separate or have you ever been? Like? The pajamas are nice,
but I bet I'll get a lot more viewers if
I throw on a bikini top or I don't know
what they hit you with. I don't know what the
laws are over there, the rules, all that shit. Are
you trying to keep them completely separate?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to keep them somewhat separate.
Speaker 2: If you do dig far enough into my profile you
can see and you do see fans interacting me that
know me for my adult work. They'll be like, oh,
that's Sophia. You have no idea who she is or
what she does. And I do sex it up too,
like I'll do the sexy style and then I'll do pajuma.
So you know, it's just kind of what my mood
is for gaming in the day.
Speaker 1: Hypothetical, complete hypothetical. If I were to promise you the
same amount of money and the same amount of fame
and recognition everything else you're looking for at the end
of your life, and you can either continue being a
porn star or you would be a Twitch game streamer
and still receive the same accolades, the same you know
all that. Which would you prefer?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Porn? Okay, all right, adult?
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. No.
Speaker 3: I fucking love my job.
Speaker 1: See, and I do interviews with performers who are great
and do great job performing, and most of them it
feels like this is a job. Like in the same
way when I log on every morning my day job,
it's this is a job. Yeah, I get some joy
out of it, but it's a job. You seem like
you really do just kind of love this shit.
Speaker 2: I do. Yeah, I'm very fulfilled at work literally literally
and figuratively.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, last question, and this is an odd one,
but I ask all performers this. There's no judgment, there's
no whatever. What is your opinion on what age females
should be able to get into the adult entertainment industry.
Speaker 3: I feel that twenty one is a good age.
Speaker 2: I do think that lower than that, you're kind of
pressing it a little now. Again, I like to joe
porn as an entry level job. You know, we all
come from different walks of life. I've met girls who
are forty in the mind but they're eighteen years old.
Speaker 1: Sure, you know so.
Speaker 2: But based on experience, I would say that twenty one
is probably the better age to go as opposed to eighteen.
But again, I do think it's situational.
Speaker 1: So that's the discussion we always have. And performers who
got in at eighteen tell me twenty one all the time. Yeah,
you don't. The one thing total anecdotal, you know example here,
but the sixteen year old girl who gets kicked out
of her house, she finally turns eighteen, she wants to
start something, you know, you can't be like, it's tough
to be like, no, you're not allowed to do that,
Like she probably has more.
Speaker 2: Much surel and centing adult right, you know, bodily autonomy.
Speaker 1: So now we thought maybe the other We kind of
came to a consensus and I talked it out. What
if it was eighteen to twenty one. You cannot shoot
anything other than solo scenes and only for yourself. You
can work in OnlyFans you can work or a Twitter,
you can whatever it is you're going to do to build.
And then over those three years, if you like this,
if you enjoy this job, if you want to stay
with it, if you've learned how to work the back
end of it, twenty one comes around. Here's your browsers,
here's your bang bros. Whoever it is. What do you
think of something like that? Well?
Speaker 2: For me, yes, as a social idea, I think that
it has its place. But politically I see it as
an infringement of rights. Sure, because you're also limiting to
what because we're protected under the First Amendment. And I
do like to remind people that. And I believe once
you start putting restrictions, you know, it can start going
to different ways. And you know, and who's to say,
you know, God forbid that twenty year old wants to
bang five guys, you know, in a safe setting. At
least she's on a porn set as opposed to you know,
in a dungeon somewhere.
Speaker 1: Know, at that point, she and everyone else there should
be tested. She's being paid for it. There's yeah, witnesses
or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeahs if you listen, if you're going to get
into porn and you're still in your teens or your
young twenties, you're gonna go out and do these sexual
activities no matter what. So for me, in my mind too,
porn has its place because you know, we do have
our horror stories. But at least you're providing, for the
most part, a safe consensing environment for girls to do this.
Speaker 1: You know, Sophia Cruz my guest for the evening. You
know exactly where you can find her at Sophia Cruz.
Please make sure you check out the links in the
episode description. You have to, because the content she's putting
out is insane. If you broke even just go to
her Twitter. My god, the stuff on there is hot enough. Okay,
I clicked the link.
Speaker 3: You're gonna make me blush.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a link tree at the top
your tiny url, and I clicked it, and I went, well,
that is my first DP gang bang with four BBC's interesting. Okay,
not quite a link tree. We'll be purchasing that later.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you be a good review, Sophia.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It was such
a pleasure.