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Speaker 1: Sophia Cruz, my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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where you can find her at. Sophia Cruise links to

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all of her social media in the episode description below.

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Make sure you support the content creators that come on

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the show. Bare minimum you could do is at least

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follow these folks on social media. That way, the numbers

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get a little higher, we get some more opportunities, and

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then they end up on your favorite site, you know

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the other links. That's when payday rolls around and your

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kid is like, I need to make a tuition payment.

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You go look, daddy's got other expenses right now. Ladies

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and gentlemen, My guest for the evening, Sophia Cruz. Sophia,

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thanks so much for coming on with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you so much for having me.

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I really appreciate it. I'm so excited to be here. Sorry,

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no Willie Nelson over here.

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Speaker 1: Your dog's name is Willie Nelson. My cat's name is David.

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My wife was like, we need a cool, interesting name,

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and for this one eyed cat we got and I

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go call him David. She was, what's cool and interesting

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about that? Igo? Have you ever met a fucking cat

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named David, like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: It's a good point, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you. This is an odd question

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to begin with, Sophia, But if you if the industry

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were to go away tomorrow, bye, goodbye, it's gone, it's banned,

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it's whatever, what would you put on your resume as

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your job title that you did over the last X

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amount of years.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: I guess that would depend sort of on the political

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climate or where I'm living. I have thought about relocating

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to Europe several times, so I feel like there I

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can easily put I was adult talent. I was in

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the adult film industry, you know, because that's a skill

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set flavored or not.

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Speaker 1: Totally is I just I think about it even more

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than that though. It's just your job is not just

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hot porn star girl. It is social media manager. It's

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I'm not sure you know of your team behind you,

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but at some point.

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Speaker 3: It's a do everything by myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, admin manager, social media manager, editor, adult film star

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doesn't just cover all of the work you do, right,

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It seems like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a huge it's a dynamic position, you know,

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and it goes based on like what your flavor of

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sex work is too. I know girls that are only

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content creators, you know, they have their own battles compared

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to girls that do strictly studio work. You know, we

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and do you know the fact that we can actually

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pivot and know how to navigate each kind of sector

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of sex work I think is really interesting. You know,

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we all go getters. You know, we're hustlers. We're trying

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to We're trying to do it, you know literally. Hah.

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Speaker 1: That's what's so cool about this. It's the job itself.

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The industry itself is not like I guess maybe there

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are different types of welders. I was going to use

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that as a thing. You can do underwater welding. You

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do this and that, But there's no like one defined

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path for any girl in this industry. You can play

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it slow and maybe not make as much as you want.

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for fun. You know, there's just you could go full mainstream,

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your faces out there, you're doing everything. I think it's

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great and it creates a lot of great opportunities. Let

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me ask you, how did you Let's start with the

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boring one here that I'm sure everyone asked you, how

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did you initially decide to get into the adult entertainment

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industry in whatever field that was, camming, dancing, you know,

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whatever it was, when you go, I can't do vanilla shit,

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I have to step over this line.

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Speaker 3: That was in college.

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Speaker 2: I was in nursing school at the time in Denver,

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and I remember I was just like, you know what,

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I kind of always wanted to try stripping, and at

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that point, I was like, you know what, if I'm

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going to do it, I'm going to do it now.

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You know, there's plenty of research out there online. You know,

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as I could. There weren't a lot of strippers back

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then as there are now. And I try it to

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date myself because this was well over ten years ago,

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but so it's kind of hard to meet us in

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person or connect on social media because you know, we

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I was just, you know what, I was

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nineteen at the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm hot, I'm young, I got energy, like I want

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to try sex, workout, and I remember since that day,

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I'm like, oh my god, I love.

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Speaker 3: This, this is fantastic. I want to keep going with this.

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Speaker 1: D Okay, did that fit? It sounds like it did,

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but correct me if I'm wrong. Did that fit your

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personality up to that point? Like I could tell my

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wife right now I'm going to try and be a

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hit man, and she'd go, well, you're a fucking pussy,

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had told some parent in the high school you went to, like, oh,

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you know, Sofia went on to become a stripper, would

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they be like, yeah, that makes sense or would they

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be like no, not Sophia.

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Speaker 2: Really, I think there's always been a kind of weirdness

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to me, you know. So I'm actually like telling childhood

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friends of mine like, oh, yeah, you know, this is

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what I ended up doing.

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Speaker 3: They actually weren't surprised at all.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: I guess I kind of fit.

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Speaker 2: I think people realized before I did, you know, kind

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of what my path would be.

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Speaker 1: Sure, what was the biggest surprise when you started stripping? Like,

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was there anything where you had this impression in your mind,

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either from like watching Late night HBO back in fucking

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early two thousands or the internet in general, where you

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were like, strip club will be like this, the strippers

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will be like this. The owners and whatever will be

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like this. And you said you did your research, but

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they vary by club, the club and everything else. What

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like caught you off guard where you went, oh fuck,

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the whole equation.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that shocked me the most was

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because when I did my research, I knew enough, you know,

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to be you know, kind of watch yourself around girls,

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don't give up personal information, make sure you're working at

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a safe club. Do your research, see if it's a

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safe environment in general. Try to see which manager is

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creepy or not. But I think the thing that threw

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me off the most was actually the sexual contact in

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the level, because I remember I was nineteen at the

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time when I started dancing, so which is a little

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fairly young now that I think about it. And I

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hadn't had a lot of sexual partners either before I

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started dancing too, So I think that kind of threw

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me off. Was just the barrage of just sexual energy.

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I enjoyed it. I was like, oh my god, this

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is awesome. Yeah, we're all having fun, We're all turned

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on Its hot hot girls everywhere guys having fun.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask have you always been a hot girl?

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And have you always known you were a hot girl?

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Because I would never walk into any kind of room

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with that kind of energy. I've never have once in

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my life, Like I could walk into a fucking meeting, alcoholics,

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anonymous meeting and be like, everyone hates me here, I'm

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fucking loser. I'm the worst person here. No one likes me.

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What gave you that confidence to be able to do that? Uh?

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Speaker 2: I just I've always been told that I have an

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amazing body. But I will preface this with that I

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was an ugly ducking growing up. Yes, I had braces

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up until college, so I battled with acne when I

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was younger too. I wasn't always blond as brunette, so

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I was an ugly duckling. And then when I hit college,

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I was like, oh man, you know what, I got

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some stuff going on, like I can do this, okay,

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were just like, oh my god, your body's fucking killer.

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And I'm like, you know what, you are right, I'm

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gonna put this to the test.

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Speaker 3: And I did.

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Speaker 1: There you go, did you have a what was the

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longest time you were at one club? Like, did you

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ever jump or do you like stay at the same place?

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Speaker 2: Uh? I tend to jump once in a while, depending

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where I'm living. But the longest I believe has been

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six years so far?

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Speaker 1: Did you or do you? Did you? Do you have

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a song? There? This is just Sophia's. No one else

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touches the song except for her.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I don't know if I can say, because

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it's kind of a what is it? It's called marijuana

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or pussy by Brazilian girls and it's literally just going.

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Speaker 3: Pussy, pussy, pussy, marijuana, pussy, pussy, pussy, you say my song?

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Speaker 2: No one was allowed to touch it otherwise the rath

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Speaker 1: Okay, down, very fair. I have this question because I

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one time, after I don't know, college graduation or something,

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I took all my friends out. We went to Philly

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in Jersey. We went to Philly to a strip club

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and it was all these people who had never gone.

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Speaker 3: Before, right, like I'm interesting.

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Speaker 1: I brought like Best Buy workers that I used to

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work with over there, and you know, these guys were

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making twelve bucks an hour at the time, and I go,

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all right, let's go. So I'm, you know, tipping all

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the way you're supposed to tip. At the one in

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Philly it was full nude, but it's you know, you

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a dollar when they come around, or a tip when

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they come around and ask if they want if you

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want them to turn around, you give another tip. I'm

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watching my friends. Just hi, Hi, nice to meet you,

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and not tipping. The end of the night, we did account.

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This person was down it's gonna sound smaller, thirty four dollars.

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This person was down forty two dollars.

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Speaker 3: Max is ma some people you know, Max.

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Speaker 1: Was down three seventy five at the end of the night.

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After buying, everyone dances and this and that ip. There

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you go exactly. I tell you this long, boring story

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so that I can answer this question. How can a

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broke guy go to a party at a strip club respectfully?

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Like I have no money right now, I got fifteen

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bucks to my name. I want to be respectful. There's

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this bachelor party going on, whatever it is, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, obligated to attend.

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Speaker 1: How do I do this respectfully to not insult the performers.

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Speaker 2: There cool a couple things that you can do. First,

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as I like to say, if well, one, you're probably

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gonna have a girl approach you first. So I always

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like to say, hey, tell her right off the bat,

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you know, and just be like, hey, I'm here attending

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a bachelor birthday, whatever the occasion is, I'm here's my boss.

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I am flat broke right now. I can't spend any dollars.

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You're beautiful. Always follow up the compliment, and if you

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don't mean it, because it makes it, it makes it

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go down easier. And then if you can just be like, okay,

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that guy is your vibe, you know, like he might

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spend money or that guy, but just let him know

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off the bat.

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Speaker 3: That way, they're not you know, wasting their time.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, I've had guys been like oh you know,

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I don't like strip clubs, or you're not my type,

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you know, excuses like that. We'll try to you know,

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work around, you know, but if you just say, hey,

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I can't afford it right now, I literally can't, that's

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the most respectful way. And really, if she gets mad

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at you after that point, that's that's.

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Speaker 3: That's her problem.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, if you.

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Speaker 2: Lead with that, lead with that, don't sit there for

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an hour and be like, oh, hey, I can't afford

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the forty dollars dance.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's kind of a dick move. You just

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go right off with.

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Speaker 1: It totally for sure. And and I've been the guy

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with money at the club, and I've been the guy

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hitting the ATM twice, going yo, that's not going to

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clear tomorrow. I don't know what it is. So you

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always have to find a way to be respectful and remember,

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anyone out there, this is a job. Like treat these

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people the way you would want to be treated if

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someone came into your job. Would I grab your dick

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if you were working at Subway? No, I might, but

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I probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Well, I can't say well, don't get me in shruble

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because I do that in the clubs. But that's my job,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this last one about

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strip clubs here only because I always find the environment

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and atmosphere so interesting. I always make this comparison to

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how how's the back room at your strip club? I

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do have one more after this, now that I think

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about it, but how's the best level strip clup?

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Speaker 3: Questions?

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Speaker 2: Keep it rolling?

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Speaker 1: How's the back room at the club? You either currently

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do work at or you know, stop in on or

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anytime you do it. Because on Twitter at least, do

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you see porn stars kind of like friendly and like

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there's the occasional someone will say something nasty and there's

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a dog pile, but everyone seems like kind of nice

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and kind of this and that. And then I've heard

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the opposite about strip clubs, where it's cutthroat. It's a

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little bit like you're not getting some sweet mentor mommy there.

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It's everyone's looking for dances and you're going to steal

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it from me. How about you? What kind of back

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rooms at clubs have you seen and been a part of.

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Speaker 2: I will say there are two different kinds of strip clubs.

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That's management run and it's stripper run. So it's either

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run by the strippers or it's run by management. Both

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of those clubs have completely different dynamics. Usually when it's

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heavy on management, there isn't exactly room for drama. They'll

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be like, no, listen, you know you have an issue

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with her, stay away. But if it's a stripper run

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strip club, I will say it is kind of a

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free for all you kind of it's I hate to

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say it's not necessarily like a hazing, but it's almost

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just like you got to learn your chops, you know,

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like we all came into this with, you know, a

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pair of heels that weren't stripper heels and a cocktail dress.

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Speaker 3: You know, just trying to do it.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it is a different environment of sex

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work are it is technically a competition. You are competing

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against different girls, you know, in the same night, and

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I like to put it at every night or day

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is a different battle, so you know, you never know

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what you're walking in with. And I go, that's also

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based on your style too. I know girls that are

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super aggressive, they don't care about friends, they don't care

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about drama, and then there's girls that care about keeping

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the peace. You know. It's kind of what you go

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into the club with that attitude?

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Speaker 1: Gotcha last week? And you didn't spoil it with that

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last answer, but you almost kind of made it. So

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there's two parts to it. What about hierarchies? Are there

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hierarchies like these women have been here the longest, so

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we respect them, or this one's the manager's girlfriend, like

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have you ever seen any kind of hierarchy? And then

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how do you deal with that. Also. The second part

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of that is there any have you ever been in

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a club where there's a girl that just everyone doesn't like,

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like all the people who work there, like yo Joan

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is such an idiot? Why do we even keep her here?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, I apologize, Well, I'll do that last one quickly,

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because that's an easy answer. That's just money. If she's

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a sucking or making a shit ton of money for everybody,

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bad attitudes will eventually get weeded out. But it's you know,

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you're only good as your last envelope in a strip club.

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You know we're all there to make money. You know,

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sometimes you're not there to make friends. No, so sorry,

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can you remind me of the first part of the.

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Speaker 1: Question, hierarchy? Have you ever seen or been involved in

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a hierarchy where you're like, oh, I should be friends

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with her because she's close with this guy, Like, have

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you ever had to do any of that behind the scenes?

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I can't believe how much of that shit is in

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office work, So I just wonder if it applies towards

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that as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, except it's a whole nother animal

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because we're all drinking too there's girls that are on drugs,

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party atmosphere. So it's it's really you have to learn

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the vibe of the club when you show up, and

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that's something that you usually get with the experience. You

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notice who's making money, who's friends with management, who's fucking

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the managers, you know, who doesn't like you so and

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it's also something that if you're kind of a more

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seasoned stripper too, that a habit is is that you

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usually keep to yourself, you know, for the most part,

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until you understand the environment that you're working in. So

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you're kind of a little slow to make friends for

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interaction because you don't know where this girl's coming from.

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She could be trying to rob you, she could be

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trying to be a friend she you know. So you know,

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that is kind of something that girls do to kind

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of get a basis of the hierarchy because there obviously

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is one. You know, veterans are usually you know, top

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of the pyramid and you kind of just trickle down there.

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But they set the vibe with management too, so you

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kind of just react based on that. And again, it's territorial.

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Every clubs different, every state's different, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was I read an interview you had done.

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I always like to try and do as much research

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and dig through stuff. I won't say it because you

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skipped it earlier, but you got into the industry later.

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I was, by the way, I was blown away. I

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thought twenty two twenty three, so that's just me.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it benefited you getting into this industry

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after having real world? By the way, she's not like

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fifty or anything, folks, She's just not twenty two?

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Speaker 3: Okay, thanks for giving that that shut up?

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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, well they have to see your picture and

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go like, oh, she can't be. You'd be the hottest

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fifty year old anyone's ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Right, are you joking? I put that on a T shirt.

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I'm fucking fifty.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Do you think it benefited you getting in a

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little bit late? Like? Have you heard horror stories that

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girls have gone through in the porn industry and go

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I didn't necessarily have to go through that. Some of

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the startup stuff where you have now you do your

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own self booking as well, so I guess that you

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deal with that as well. But scammers and this people,

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do you think it was beneficial to get in not

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eighteen nineteen years old.

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Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, absolutely, And it kind of blows

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my mind that I was stripping, because I'd actually find

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stripping much more dangerous than porn, So it kind of

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blows my mind that I started that early. But no,

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I do say I am fortunate that I started adult

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film when I did. I was a bit older as

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twenty seven, and this is actually post only fans, and

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so from my understanding, again, I wasn't in the industry

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that there was kind of a renaissance period after only fans,

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and that there was a big shift in power from

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studios to performers and talent. So I think that was

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a huge help as well. I was actually pretty fortunate too.

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I was picked up. My first agent wasn't exactly the best. One,

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wasn't a great experience. My first shoot was a fantastic experience.

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But no, after that I got picked up. You know,

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I was pretty fortunate by Ama Brian, you know, so

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I you know, he really kind of snowballed my career

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from there, and he kind of just put a good

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taste in my mouth. I was like, you know what,

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this is professional porn, and I do hear the horror stories.

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I do know what women have gone through with in

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men in the industry, so and I do think I

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did dodge a little bit of that too, based on

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my age, even though I did look fairly younger when

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I started. People read the idea, They're like, oh, you're

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twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: You know you're not easily.

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Speaker 2: Influenced, you know as a girl who was in a

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teeny sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I never really considered that before. Yeah, they'll look

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at you and maybe even bring you in and then

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when they see that or whatever, they might go, oh,

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we can't no offense to the work the guys out there,

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but the thumbbags, I will say, they'll look at you

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and go like, oh, we can't get one over on

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this girl, like she's not going to be tricked. Okay,

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good yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: So I have experienced that before. Or someone will try

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to book me and they'll see my ID and they'll

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be like, oh, ghosted.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: It's also an interesting experience.

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Speaker 1: I want to do a thing called stat check. We

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use the Internet Adult Film database. These numbers are inaccurate.

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They are not going to be right. I say this

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to every female performer I have on the show. They

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all go Okay, good, nice. I give the numbers. They

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then go like this, those numbers are off. I go, yeah,

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I know, I know, I know these are these are

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going to be wrong. They don't update it often enough.

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So the amount of scenes that I have recorded, not

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recorded that I read you did the one hundred and

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twenty scenes male performers, you've worked with fifty nine female performers.

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You've worked with seventeen one AVN NOM Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: That is correct?

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Speaker 1: Yes, didn't win though, right, No, No.

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Speaker 2: No tripter this year. But there's always next year.

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Speaker 1: There's always next year. There's always next year. So do

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you think you have a definitive scene so far? Like

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if I were to say, Sophie Cruise, nice to meet you.

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Your poets are great. What would I watch to get

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all of you, to get you know what the essence

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of what the Sophia Cruz brand is.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a really tough question. It's a really good one, huh.

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I would say.

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Speaker 2: My DP Diva films by my show Claudio and then

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now is actually my first DP scene too, that was

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with Donnie Sims and Milan Panjevitch, and I just think

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the energy that I carried my esthetic, I really pride

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myself on taking Dick really well so and for me,

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I feel like my personality shined and Claudio somehow got

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it on camera chat.

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Speaker 1: Have you no names, but that sounds like the work

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of a good director. Have you also worked with bad directors?

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And what separates the difference between that? Is it an

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on set vibe? Is it how they work?

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Speaker 2: I would feel it's mostly effort and what they're doing.

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You know, when you show up and it are just

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just like, all right, I don't care, that's just another day.

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It's just like, you know, you're not there to make magic.

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You're there because you just you know, you get a

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film the scene, you know, But that's usually that's just

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based on vibe whatever they're they're trying to do. Some directors,

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you know, they just want to go out and make

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the best possible content that they can in that day.

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And then some people are just like, you know, just

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burn them midnight oil.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you said earlier, like these guys couldn't trick

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me into it, And then I was looking, I was like,

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what are some of my favorite scenes of you?

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Speaker 2: DP?

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Speaker 1: Diva love that obviously Glory Whole Cream Pie. I mean

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one so they didn't have to talk into the group stuff.

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It seems like that was kind of a choice you

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made where there was no one in your ear going

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like what about six guys?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Oh, no way, that was all me too.

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Speaker 2: I think there was supposed to be less too, and

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I was just like, yeah, just go just do more.

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Speaker 3: You can do more.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, I actually think more we're supposed to show

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up to.

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Speaker 1: It kept changing, so again, no one necessarily had to

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coax you into that. Is that just something you were

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excited to do. Had you done that previously in your life,

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had been in group situations before?

473
00:23:38,759 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: No, I was actually saving that for on camera, So yeah,

474
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,640
and I was really excited to do about too, and

475
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,079
I did plan that as well.

476
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 3: I kind of held off.

477
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: I know some girls don't exactly care about timing, but

478
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,359
I kind of made sure to space out, you know

479
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,440
what I was doing, because my first scene was anal

480
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,400
so I couldn't exactly say that when so I saved

481
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,000
the gang bang for you know, my next big you know,

482
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,160
oh my god moment.

483
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, I know. It's the hottest thing I've

484
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:05,960
ever done.

485
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,039
Speaker 2: And I'm so happy I started getting into gang bangs

486
00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:10,319
because I was missing out.

487
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: Now let me as do you like both sides as

488
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,519
far as domination goes on it? Because I always see

489
00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:19,759
gang bangs as one of two things. It's the rag

490
00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,680
dog girl getting you know, not not violent at all,

491
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,039
but tossed around kind of and you over here, and

492
00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:29,680
then there's the woman that's like you here, you and me?

493
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,200
What do you prefer? Do you prefer either of those?

494
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: I've been told, Uh, I've been referred to as a

495
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:44,680
power bottom. Okay, So I am submissive. I am not.

496
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,119
I don't have a dominant personality. I mean I can

497
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,440
do it obviously for work, but my preference is to

498
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,920
be a sub But I do like to please on

499
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,640
an aggressive level. I don't know if that makes sense

500
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,680
at all, but uh, I just want to be like, yep,

501
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,279
please use my pussy milkyr cock, Yeah, do it?

502
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, no, I get that. I I kind of

503
00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:10,640
like that too, and I try and talk my wife

504
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,000
into that, but we've been together so long it just

505
00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:16,160
kind of gets cynical and like sarcastic, and we've been

506
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:21,079
working on that. Just tell me almost angrily what you

507
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,640
want from me, okay, and let not aggressive, not like

508
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:27,960
dominant at all but just you know, that's what I

509
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:30,960
don't know. Now, I'm just getting into my own shit here, Okay, I.

510
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: Apologize to It's gonna make me come so hard.

511
00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:39,599
Speaker 1: What's what's the craziest week you've ever had of shooting? Now?

512
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,759
You said a second ago, you know you built up,

513
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:44,640
You've saved off this and that. Have you ever had

514
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,559
a week that was just like at the end of it,

515
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:48,680
you go like frozen. P's is what I'm gonna be

516
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,960
sitting on for the weekend because this was fucking intense.

517
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I.

518
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,319
Speaker 2: Don't know if you're familiar with Angela Godshak in a

519
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,680
progue in Czech Republic.

520
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've seen his work, Yes.

521
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: Yes, well, he is known for doing hardcore and his

522
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,839
one hundred percent hell sets are truly one hundred percent hell.

523
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:14,640
But there you are such masterpieces. It's just such beautiful

524
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,640
stuff that he does. But every shoot is anal and

525
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:22,440
they're all hardcore shoots. And when you're there, it's not

526
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,920
like I'm there for a couple of months. You know,

527
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,319
I'm only there for about a week or so, so

528
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,319
I'm filming every day while i'm there. So first day

529
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,640
is going to be DP second day might be break.

530
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,000
It might just be boy girl anal. Fourth day might

531
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:39,720
be five. It's usually like five guys gang bang. Fourth

532
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:42,759
day it might be two girl DP gang bang. Every

533
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:48,440
day's dpe if it's not anal, Yeah, that is certainly okay,

534
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,119
all right, don't give me any numbers obviously at all.

535
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: But do you leave that trip going, I'm gonna buy

536
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,759
a house, now buy another one, like do you?

537
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,279
Speaker 3: No, No, you do it for the content. European rates

538
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:00,839
are half the race in the US.

539
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: Oh. I didn't know that because I had always heard,

540
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:06,000
you know, the prog and this and that they shoot

541
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,920
hard over there. So I just figured, I don't know,

542
00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:12,720
week dollar conversion rate, maybe it might work out. No,

543
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,319
no good, huh No, I.

544
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: Actually do it for less money.

545
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: I do it just for the honor and just amazing shit.

546
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:23,319
Come out and have me look like that. You know

547
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,119
it's arc and I.

548
00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: Can't get that in the US.

549
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,799
Speaker 2: So I go out to Czech Republic.

550
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, come back home and buy a matchbox car.

551
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:31,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

552
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,279
Speaker 3: You don't do it for the content, you don't do

553
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:34,000
it for the money.

554
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: Totally get it, totally get it. How does it feel

555
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:40,119
to be the center of one of those scenes, a

556
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,039
group scene with a bunch of guys, does it get

557
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,799
overwhelming at all? Do you feel that at all during

558
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:48,400
the course of it. Do you feel any anxiety at

559
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,720
the beginning or is it just all excitement pure all

560
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,160
the way through.

561
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: I will say when it's a group setting like that,

562
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,279
I can't get some anxiety if it is anal simply

563
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,759
because it's like your pussy is easy. You know you

564
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,519
can manage that, but with anally, you know it can

565
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,119
require some more planning. So for me, my biggest stress

566
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,319
is just making sure I have a nice, easy day

567
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,440
for everybody. We don't want to do multiple cuts, you know,

568
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:20,160
stuff like that. You know, you want to show up

569
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,799
and make everyone's life a little easier. So now once

570
00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:26,960
I get in it and I'm performing, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

571
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,559
that is just like there's no worry at all, But

572
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,920
like in anticipation for the scene, yeah, that's probably like

573
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,960
my only anxiety.

574
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Okay, do you uh? I don't know how to It's

575
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,119
so funny. This is the first time in like almost

576
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:43,359
two hundred episodes I felt a little shy asking a question,

577
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,920
but it leads it leads into another question. Do you

578
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,200
come during your scenes, oh all the time. Okay, So

579
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:53,400
during a gang bang scene, do you eventually just kind

580
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,880
of numb out or are you still able to like

581
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,319
finish towards the end of it.

582
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: No, I'm blessed. I'm very sensitive down there. So for me,

583
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,400
like I've had instances where I've like just had to

584
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,759
pee really bad and I'll have an orgasm just sitting

585
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:11,200
in a chair. Yeah, So so for me if anything,

586
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:13,559
like I can get a little over stimulated, but at

587
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:15,960
that point, like I just feels so good.

588
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: It's like one of the best sensations.

589
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,079
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Okay, all right, if you were to look back

590
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:26,279
at some of your first scenes, do you still feel

591
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:29,039
good about them? Not like morally or anything like that,

592
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,200
but just like quality your performance. I can't go back

593
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,279
and listen to any of my early shows. I will

594
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:39,079
have trouble listening to this one, okay, because I don't

595
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:40,599
want to see myself. I don't want to hear myself.

596
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,319
I don't want to do any of that. If you

597
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,119
go back to your early stuff, do you have any

598
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,279
of that feeling or are you proud? Right off the bat?

599
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:48,480
And both are acceptable obviously.

600
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm I'm proud right off the bat. But then

601
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,400
the performer in me likes to look and likes to

602
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,680
critique myself too. So if like, for instance, and I'm like, oh, well,

603
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,559
you know in that scene he was over there, I'm

604
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:05,720
going to make sure to pay special attention when I'm

605
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,599
watching it so I can go, you know what, that's

606
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,319
what I look like from his position, Like, now I

607
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:12,480
see why he wanted me to open up in this angle.

608
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,559
Now I see why he wanted me to do this,

609
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:17,720
you know. And that's just something I just do just

610
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,079
to im proof. You know, that's my that's my thing.

611
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:24,480
And then I obviously watch it to get off too

612
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:24,880
as well.

613
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: But do you are you able to do that?

614
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,119
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

615
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's especially with my partner, you know, that's our

616
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:34,640
first thing to review, the review the city, see how

617
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,160
hot it is.

618
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:37,799
Speaker 1: If I saw myself naked, I'd throw up. I think

619
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:44,160
I'm pretty sure. So that congratulations on that one. Can

620
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,079
we how far can we talk about your partner at all?

621
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:50,079
I've seen you mentioned it in interviews and this and that.

622
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,960
I just don't know how comfortable I read you were

623
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:55,519
you've been with How do you refer to your partner?

624
00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:58,920
I'm Mary Okay, husband, okay, all right, all right, and

625
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,519
you never know it's a scene partner, it's this, it's

626
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:02,880
that I understand.

627
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,359
Speaker 2: Well, you never know. With porn industry, some people don't

628
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,480
like to label him as my partner instead of my husband, you.

629
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,599
Speaker 1: Know, totally, and I get that. I totally get that.

630
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,359
Do can I ask and again cut me off anywhere

631
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,079
you want? Was this dynamic? It seems like, did you

632
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:21,400
get in this relationship before entering the porn industry?

633
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: Yes? I did?

634
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So was there ever any discussion or was it

635
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,720
always like cool, this is our relationship, this is our

636
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,680
Was there ever anything like, you know, I don't know

637
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,480
if you should do this, Sophia, Well, I'm really leaning

638
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,920
towards doing this. Or was it always just encouragement all

639
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,359
the way through?

640
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: Oh? A total encouragement. He's been my biggest advocate. And

641
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:44,200
the reason, uh, we even thought about it was because

642
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,039
we would just pose dirty videos of us fucking online

643
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:50,440
for fun. Sure, not even going for for content. We

644
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,279
weren't even making money off of it. We just you know,

645
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:55,839
wanted to show people how are we are fucking? And

646
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,559
he was just like you know what, honey, like you

647
00:31:58,599 --> 00:32:00,799
would be a great porn star and I was just

648
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,079
like yeah, I was like, show me some stuff, like

649
00:32:03,079 --> 00:32:06,000
what do you think? And then I was just like, huh,

650
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,039
I can fuck like that.

651
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: I can do that.

652
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I was already been a stripper for

653
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,319
a while, and I was like, you know what, why

654
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:13,440
not let's do it?

655
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,079
Speaker 1: So then can I was that the first time we

656
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:19,960
had opened the idea of this relationship being open or

657
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,279
were you guys always kind of party and.

658
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: We were always been cool like that.

659
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: I would never wear that jealous type or anything like that. Yeah,

660
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,960
I'm extremely fortunate to be in such an amazing marriage.

661
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha. I just always find that dynamic interesting. And

662
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,440
I always wonder if there's boundaries set up? Do you

663
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,119
and this is the last question I asked about that,

664
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,039
do you have shooting and you don't even have to

665
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:42,559
tell me what they are if you choose not to,

666
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:46,559
do you have shooting boundaries set up like your husband's, Like,

667
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000
you know, I will fully support you this thing or

668
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:53,079
working with this person or you know, doing this type

669
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:55,759
and it's not me. I really would prefer not And

670
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:57,599
then you have a discussion about it or is it

671
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,160
just all whatever you were comfortable with we're running with.

672
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: We always have discussions about it.

673
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: So there's nothing that I don't do that he doesn't

674
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:08,799
know about or approves because it's it's a partnership.

675
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 3: At least that's how we are.

676
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: I know different couples have different boundaries, but there's nothing

677
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,519
that I don't do.

678
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,279
Speaker 3: I have no secrets for my husband.

679
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,279
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha?

680
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:20,359
Speaker 2: I literally said the moment he walks in the door,

681
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,920
blah blah blah bla blah blah blah blah.

682
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:27,319
Speaker 1: Blah, no offense. I just thought of your husband, goes,

683
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:29,119
I wish you would keep more secrets from me.

684
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never honey.

685
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,599
Speaker 2: When I was prepping for my anal scene today, this

686
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,519
is what happened. He was like, I love you.

687
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,279
Speaker 1: Uh okay, this is an odd question, and I have

688
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,119
a couple more odd ones coming up towards the end.

689
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,720
But let me ask, is there anything that you find

690
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,640
And I'll clarify this too. It is not a It

691
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,799
is not an indictment of anyone that does any of

692
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,039
this stuff. It is not saying this person's bad because

693
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:58,160
they do this. I'm saying, is there anything that you

694
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:03,079
find somewhat morally objectionable that the industry does where shoots

695
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,319
or a type of content it puts out where you're like,

696
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,480
it just kind of gives you the ick, and you're like,

697
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,199
I don't think I would do that.

698
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 3: I would say.

699
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:21,599
Speaker 2: Public facing kink play only because it's very difficult to

700
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,920
get strangers to consent to your play. And I know

701
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,039
we don't necessarily have this issue in the United States

702
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,960
because we you know, we have obscenity laws. You know,

703
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:36,400
you can't do this stuff in public. But I do know,

704
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,239
like when you say like slut walks or you know,

705
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,960
like kink walks, you know, like walking your sub you know,

706
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:46,000
walking your your your dog, you know, on a leash

707
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000
in public, you know, you don't know if you're exposing

708
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:49,920
children to that.

709
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: And so for me, that's just and I.

710
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,679
Speaker 2: Love public play too, like I've I would love to

711
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,840
walk down a street naked and have people take photos.

712
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,119
But again, it's hard to get people's consent to that.

713
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,719
So and you know, we're kind of have to be

714
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:11,320
stewards of you know, moral I don't know, sexually morals,

715
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,400
sexual morals.

716
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense.

717
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,559
Speaker 2: I don't know the phrase to put it, but we

718
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,320
almost have to be stewards. We're examples in the industry

719
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,480
and you know, and how sex should be done right.

720
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,039
So for me, that always kind of puts a sour

721
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,639
taste in my mouth, you know.

722
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: You know, I've had that. I've never discussed this on

723
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,840
the show, but I'm a big fan of cum walks.

724
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,639
I think they're interesting. I think it's a woman going

725
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:33,960
out there show look how slutty I am. I have

726
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,559
this being ah blah blah blah whatever it is. But then, like,

727
00:35:36,639 --> 00:35:39,880
could you imagine like your kid being like what's on

728
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,960
that lady's face? And you're like, oh.

729
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: Fuck, if you're walking through a mall, like that's not okay.

730
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're in an adult.

731
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: Only setting, that's you know what that's because you know,

732
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,719
but it's you know, when you're in a public setting,

733
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:55,639
it's like extremely public.

734
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,119
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's hard to.

735
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: Get people's consent or doing that because they might not

736
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,639
you no, they might have religious boundaries, you know, and

737
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,679
might be offensive to them orally. You know.

738
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never considered that. That's really that's very interesting.

739
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,960
So you don't have any problem with the step phase

740
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,280
that we're in this last decade. Have you been a

741
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,960
step sister, daughter mother yet?

742
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,599
Speaker 3: Oh? I have yes plenty of times.

743
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,559
Speaker 2: But my argument with that, though, is that if you

744
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:30,679
don't have it available, what's gonna happen? Sure, so people

745
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,000
are going to go out and get that fantasy no

746
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:37,280
matter what. So I find that porn is a safer

747
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,440
way for people to live out their fantasies.

748
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: Totally. Yeah, it's not my kink, but I have heard

749
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,159
other performers say, you know when you really hear it.

750
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:49,280
When you hear it is when the performers like I

751
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,920
was real close to my brother growing up, like I

752
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:55,320
can't shoot this kind of stuff now, And then I

753
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,840
accept that too. Again, no judge. My thing is as

754
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,000
long as there's no kids or dogs in the room,

755
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:01,239
a shit what anyone's doing?

756
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,519
Speaker 3: Just yeah, fun exactly, it should be. It should be

757
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:04,039
that easy.

758
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: But it goes into like the darker side of it too,

759
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,679
Like I've been shippers for so many years.

760
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,559
Speaker 3: I've had lap dance as a gentleman.

761
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you look like my niece, you look like

762
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,559
my daughter, you look like But you know what if

763
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:20,000
you don't have an outlet for people you know that

764
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,199
have those thoughts, you know, sexual violence happens. And I

765
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,599
hate to say it, but it has its place in society,

766
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,239
you know.

767
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:32,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Unfortunately it does. And I think you're

768
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,880
I think you're right. I think that line can probably

769
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,000
eventually be crossed. But you're giving them, you know, a

770
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:44,280
fantasy of what they want versus them getting it themselves.

771
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,079
I think at some point you have to go not

772
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,159
you and nothing you've said is you know, qualifies. But

773
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:52,800
if they're like, no, you shouldn't have that fantasy. Whatever

774
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,159
the push of that line is. And I don't think

775
00:37:55,199 --> 00:38:00,239
the step stuff necessarily crosses that, you know. Let me

776
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,360
ask you, what does success look like to you in

777
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,079
this industry? Is it numbers? Is it do you want

778
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,440
two million followers? Is it awards? Do you want to

779
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,679
be covered in the room back there? Is it enough

780
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,320
so you can retire by forty and never have to

781
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,639
do this again? What is success to you?

782
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a tough one. For me, it's recognition by

783
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,000
my peers, you Neil. I always value the fans, but

784
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:32,760
to have directors co talent, you know, to go, oh

785
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,559
my god, you killed it. You know. I don't necessarily

786
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:39,199
need awards or anything like that, but to get recognition

787
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,440
from peers, that for me is what does.

788
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: It really Okay, interesting, all right, do you have anything

789
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,679
that is still on your sexual bucket list, either on

790
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,400
camera or not on camera?

791
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: Yees?

792
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,079
Speaker 2: So I still have not done double anal penetration yet,

793
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,039
so I am planning on doing that this year though.

794
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: How do you?

795
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I could understand if it was a

796
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,880
bunch of like small dick guys like all of my friends. Okay,

797
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:10,519
you're you're.

798
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,119
Speaker 3: Working, well, do you know what their dicks look like?

799
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: Because I've sucked them?

800
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,119
Speaker 2: Uh?

801
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: This is no. Uh how do you how do you

802
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:21,199
even prep for that? Do you take like a Campbell

803
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,519
soup can and said on it? Like? What is how

804
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:25,119
do you? How does this work?

805
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:26,599
Speaker 2: Uh?

806
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:27,079
Speaker 1: For me?

807
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,159
Speaker 3: I have my own system.

808
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: Now I have stretched my ass to take you know,

809
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:35,079
the amount of size i'd be appropriate for double anal penetration,

810
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,480
But uh no, you just get you just work your

811
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:41,760
way up to you know, a little stretching toy that's

812
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,880
you know, that way just slides.

813
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: They slide right in.

814
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,639
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think people have any idea how

815
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,119
much side work performers have to do. You're doing trainings

816
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:54,000
on your off day.

817
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: It's muscle training. It's a muscle you know.

818
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,519
Speaker 1: They think you show up, you have sex for an hour,

819
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,800
you get paid twenty thousand dollars, you go home and

820
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:05,559
never have to do anything else.

821
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: And I've heard that so many times, especially at the

822
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,400
strip club.

823
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:11,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be so great. Yeah, wouldn't it be great?

824
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: Though?

825
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

826
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, then everyone would be doing it?

827
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:19,639
Speaker 1: Uh? Is there any person and this will this will

828
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:21,440
be the time to call you out on it? Is

829
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,519
there any person you're still wanting to work with? Male

830
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:28,519
female director? Is there anyone top of your head? Name wise?

831
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: Oh? Definitely Jules Jordan.

832
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,079
Speaker 2: I have yet to work with him, and I've seen

833
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:39,880
his work obviously, he's the legend. I do have some

834
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,280
more I do would like to work with Dread this year.

835
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,480
That would be very exciting. I'm always up for a

836
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:47,320
challenge because that certainly will be.

837
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: That they Dread. Dread looks like if I got the

838
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
death penalty, they would go, do you want the electric

839
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:56,599
chair or Dread? And I would go the electric chair?

840
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:57,199
Speaker 2: The chair?

841
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I saw on your your whatever X

842
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,480
I call it Twitter? Still I saw on your Twitter.

843
00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:09,199
You're right, yeah, it's it's cuter. Okay, you're a gamer too,

844
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,920
have you? Do you have a Twitch app? Do you

845
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:14,840
have a Twitch channel yet?

846
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 3: I do? Yes, I do Twitch.

847
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,199
Speaker 1: Is it just starting out? Are you growing it? What

848
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,360
are where are we at with it?

849
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:23,039
Speaker 3: I am growing.

850
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: It's kind of been hard to navigate and you know,

851
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:30,840
scheduling when it comes to filming. So but this year

852
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,920
I've actually kind of gone into the group with it

853
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,239
the past couple of months, which I'm pretty happy about.

854
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,119
And I do game freak consistently, so I figured, uh,

855
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:41,280
you know, it's better to be on and you know,

856
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,039
have fun with people and fans. You know, it is

857
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:46,960
a totally different vibe too. I'm usually in pajamas and

858
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,320
drinking coffee. People have no idea what I do during

859
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,880
the day. They're just like random Twitch people that found me.

860
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: Now, are you trying to keep these two worlds completely

861
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:01,840
separate or have you ever been? Like? The pajamas are nice,

862
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,360
but I bet I'll get a lot more viewers if

863
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,440
I throw on a bikini top or I don't know

864
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,880
what they hit you with. I don't know what the

865
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,320
laws are over there, the rules, all that shit. Are

866
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,960
you trying to keep them completely separate?

867
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 3: I'm trying to keep them somewhat separate.

868
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,559
Speaker 2: If you do dig far enough into my profile you

869
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:19,519
can see and you do see fans interacting me that

870
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:21,760
know me for my adult work. They'll be like, oh,

871
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,000
that's Sophia. You have no idea who she is or

872
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:28,280
what she does. And I do sex it up too,

873
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,920
like I'll do the sexy style and then I'll do pajuma.

874
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,760
So you know, it's just kind of what my mood

875
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,079
is for gaming in the day.

876
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,559
Speaker 1: Hypothetical, complete hypothetical. If I were to promise you the

877
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:43,559
same amount of money and the same amount of fame

878
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:46,360
and recognition everything else you're looking for at the end

879
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,760
of your life, and you can either continue being a

880
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,360
porn star or you would be a Twitch game streamer

881
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,239
and still receive the same accolades, the same you know

882
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,840
all that. Which would you prefer?

883
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:56,559
Speaker 2: Oh?

884
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: Porn? Okay, all right, adult?

885
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough. No.

886
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: I fucking love my job.

887
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:04,119
Speaker 1: See, and I do interviews with performers who are great

888
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,519
and do great job performing, and most of them it

889
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,440
feels like this is a job. Like in the same

890
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,800
way when I log on every morning my day job,

891
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,079
it's this is a job. Yeah, I get some joy

892
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:16,960
out of it, but it's a job. You seem like

893
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,400
you really do just kind of love this shit.

894
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: I do. Yeah, I'm very fulfilled at work literally literally

895
00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:25,519
and figuratively.

896
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,039
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, last question, and this is an odd one,

897
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,639
but I ask all performers this. There's no judgment, there's

898
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:39,599
no whatever. What is your opinion on what age females

899
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,400
should be able to get into the adult entertainment industry.

900
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,119
Speaker 3: I feel that twenty one is a good age.

901
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: I do think that lower than that, you're kind of

902
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,440
pressing it a little now. Again, I like to joe

903
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,559
porn as an entry level job. You know, we all

904
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:01,119
come from different walks of life. I've met girls who

905
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,039
are forty in the mind but they're eighteen years old.

906
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: Sure, you know so.

907
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:09,039
Speaker 2: But based on experience, I would say that twenty one

908
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:12,559
is probably the better age to go as opposed to eighteen.

909
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,800
But again, I do think it's situational.

910
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,119
Speaker 1: So that's the discussion we always have. And performers who

911
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:22,880
got in at eighteen tell me twenty one all the time. Yeah,

912
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,400
you don't. The one thing total anecdotal, you know example here,

913
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,840
but the sixteen year old girl who gets kicked out

914
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,679
of her house, she finally turns eighteen, she wants to

915
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,079
start something, you know, you can't be like, it's tough

916
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:40,000
to be like, no, you're not allowed to do that,

917
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:41,079
Like she probably has more.

918
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,679
Speaker 2: Much surel and centing adult right, you know, bodily autonomy.

919
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,119
Speaker 1: So now we thought maybe the other We kind of

920
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:50,639
came to a consensus and I talked it out. What

921
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,840
if it was eighteen to twenty one. You cannot shoot

922
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,159
anything other than solo scenes and only for yourself. You

923
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,679
can work in OnlyFans you can work or a Twitter,

924
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:03,239
you can whatever it is you're going to do to build.

925
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,199
And then over those three years, if you like this,

926
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,320
if you enjoy this job, if you want to stay

927
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,000
with it, if you've learned how to work the back

928
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,920
end of it, twenty one comes around. Here's your browsers,

929
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,519
here's your bang bros. Whoever it is. What do you

930
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:18,639
think of something like that? Well?

931
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: For me, yes, as a social idea, I think that

932
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:30,960
it has its place. But politically I see it as

933
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,239
an infringement of rights. Sure, because you're also limiting to

934
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,400
what because we're protected under the First Amendment. And I

935
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,320
do like to remind people that. And I believe once

936
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,639
you start putting restrictions, you know, it can start going

937
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:48,079
to different ways. And you know, and who's to say,

938
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,079
you know, God forbid that twenty year old wants to

939
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:54,719
bang five guys, you know, in a safe setting. At

940
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,199
least she's on a porn set as opposed to you know,

941
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,480
in a dungeon somewhere.

942
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:03,119
Speaker 1: Know, at that point, she and everyone else there should

943
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:06,800
be tested. She's being paid for it. There's yeah, witnesses

944
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,400
or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeahs if you listen, if you're going to get

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into porn and you're still in your teens or your

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young twenties, you're gonna go out and do these sexual

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activities no matter what. So for me, in my mind too,

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porn has its place because you know, we do have

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our horror stories. But at least you're providing, for the

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most part, a safe consensing environment for girls to do this.

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Speaker 1: You know, Sophia Cruz my guest for the evening. You

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know exactly where you can find her at Sophia Cruz.

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Please make sure you check out the links in the

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episode description. You have to, because the content she's putting

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out is insane. If you broke even just go to

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her Twitter. My god, the stuff on there is hot enough. Okay,

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I clicked the link.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna make me blush.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a link tree at the top

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your tiny url, and I clicked it, and I went, well,

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that is my first DP gang bang with four BBC's interesting. Okay,

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not quite a link tree. We'll be purchasing that later.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you be a good review, Sophia.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It was such

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a pleasure.