1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to k O v O Provo k U 2 00:00:03,359 --> 00:00:06,080 d d HD two one O three nine at ninety 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,640 eight three, ESPN The Fan, Utah's Home of. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: The l A Rams. 5 00:00:14,199 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: When Bench Riddlesen breaking out tobe some amounts of film 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,719 on his beloved Cougar football team, He's talking Cougar Sports 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,440 right here on one O three nine at ninety eight 8 00:00:24,519 --> 00:00:27,120 three ESPN Fan. 9 00:00:29,039 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 3: Welcome back Cougar Sports two three nine, ninety eight point three, 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:38,399 ESPN The Fan. 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I think he's gonna 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,519 shock the world, in my opinion, and really run get 23 00:01:09,599 --> 00:01:10,560 some great times. 24 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,159 Speaker 4: And so we're gonna break down a little bit of. 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: His NFL profile and get caught up with him and 26 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:20,840 see what he's saying about, you know, the NFL Combine 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,040 experience this week, Captain Jack on the microphone at the 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,560 NFL Combine, Go Cubs. This segment, though, is gonna be 29 00:01:29,599 --> 00:01:32,640 brought to you by Dental Pros of Utah Dentlprosoviutah dot com. 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,159 If you've been told you need a filling a ground 31 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:35,760 a rook can out get a sickon opinion at Dental 32 00:01:35,799 --> 00:01:38,359 Pros of Utah in an American fort. 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I think for his the combine, 44 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:10,639 he came in just a hair under six to two, 45 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,319 so he's coming at six to one two forty six. 46 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:17,719 Speaker 4: His athleticism score kind of pre combine. 47 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: He's seventy one, total score sixty five and production score 48 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:25,719 fifty seven, so not as much production as they wanted 49 00:02:25,719 --> 00:02:31,719 to see. This is Lance Zerlin's breakdown, NFL analyst, his overview. Okay, 50 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:33,439 this is his overview. Okay, so take it with a 51 00:02:33,439 --> 00:02:36,800 grain AsSalt. This is just Lance's opinion. Two time team 52 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,240 captain with four productive seasons between Weaver stayed in BYU. 53 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: Kelly is a burly. 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,879 Speaker 3: Linebacker with adequate play speed and desired aggression. His reaction 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,840 time is average, but his struggles to find his leverage 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,039 and fit as a run defender pop up too often 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,280 on tape. He has a strong punch but short arms 58 00:02:57,319 --> 00:03:00,560 and can get stuck to blockers who sink their hands in. 59 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,680 He's adequate in coverage but above average as a blitzer 60 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,240 and has some juice when he rushes. 61 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: Off the edge. 62 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:10,719 Speaker 3: Kelly might need to star on special teams to find 63 00:03:10,759 --> 00:03:16,400 a role as an even front linebacker with third down value, 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,080 so that's his overview. 65 00:03:18,439 --> 00:03:19,039 Speaker 4: Strengths. 66 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 3: Delivers firm punch on climbing blocks, adequate speed for most 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,599 sidelined to sideline pursuits. Possess his quality play strength, and 68 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,800 some nasty in his demeanor. Quick to close and pounds 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,319 on pass catcher from man to zone. Displays good feel 70 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:35,879 as a blitzer and is able to trim the corner 71 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,439 off the edge. Has plug and play traits as a 72 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:45,280 four phase special teamer. His weaknesses ber Lancerlin Nflanalyst NFL 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,800 dot Com, average eye quickness and reaction time to his keys, 74 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:53,560 will turn his pads and overrun his fits against wide runs. 75 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:56,319 Speaker 4: Needs to leverage his gaps through better. 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Positioning, inconsistent technique and execution to get rid of a block. 77 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,840 Has some trouble finishing tackles with consistency in space. Was 78 00:04:04,879 --> 00:04:08,159 a non factor against the Texas Tech running game. Is 79 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:12,680 what he pointed out is he evaluated the film as 80 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:14,800 he was checking tape. I think he's gonna be pleasantly 81 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:18,720 surprised with his athleticism, even though he does give him 82 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:20,079 a high athleticism grade. 83 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,399 Speaker 4: I think he could shock some people as well. 84 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: Prospect great overall five point eight two, he says he's 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,720 an average backup or special teamer. That's what a five 86 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:35,560 point eight two ranking would be. Okay, just below the 87 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,720 good backup with potential to develop into a starter. 88 00:04:37,879 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: I disagree with him. 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,199 Speaker 3: Think I think Jack Kelly is more of a like 90 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,040 a six point three. I think he's an eventual starter. 91 00:04:48,439 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 92 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: I think he's between a six foot six point three 93 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,680 and a six point one because of his pass rushing ability, 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,160 his linear ability, like he's going to get. His pass 95 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,560 rushing ability is his best stability. I'm telling you that's 96 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,560 what he's good. He's dangerous all the other things, but 97 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:13,639 he has the ability to be a good great I'm 98 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:17,040 not going to say elite pass rush, a good to 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,319 great pass rusher. He projects as a per NFL draft 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,519 scout as a four to six three forty at almost 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,000 two hundred and fifty pounds. 102 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: That's pretty good, and he could if. 103 00:05:30,879 --> 00:05:32,639 Speaker 3: He gets into the four or five to five range, 104 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:35,399 which I think is feasible I think as possible, then 105 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,040 watch out, guys, watch out. I think there's gonna be 106 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:41,879 some some individuals within these NFL organizations that want to 107 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:44,279 take a long, hard look at him and maybe take 108 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,360 him as a mid round pick, third, fourth, fifth. We'll 109 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,480 see how it plays out. Jack Kelly, let's get into it. 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,759 A couple soundbites here from Jack Kelly at the combine. 111 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Let's get into you want to get into the brotherhood first, 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,879 All right, let's talk Jack Kelly talking about the brotherhood. 113 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,399 Speaker 4: I guess, of B why you here? How do you 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,560 approach the game preparation. 115 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 5: Just by getting ready, watching an extra film throughout the week, 116 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:15,000 making sure my body is right. I think the biggest 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,560 thing is the brotherhood we had on the team. We 118 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,319 all got each other better throughout the week, and we 119 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:22,079 all made sure that we were all prepared our biggest things. 120 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,079 Speaker 3: There you go, Having a good good teammates help you 121 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,279 prepare at the highst of levels. And so that helped 122 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:32,199 him uh to be productive and to stand out amongst 123 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,399 some great football players within a great football team. Jack 124 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,639 Kelly giving a shout out to Chad k And why 125 00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:44,839 is this important? Remember Chad Kaha just got elevated from 126 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,600 analysts to outside edge coach. Kelly Papina joint is yesterday 127 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:50,879 he disgusted. He was fantastic and a great interview, and 128 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,680 he went into depth about why he was the right 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,279 decision and the right higher. This is Jack Kelly also 130 00:06:56,879 --> 00:07:00,680 expounding on the higher and how impactful Chad k us. 131 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 6: Five checks that ten sex last year, who was a 132 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:04,600 kid thinking? 133 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: I think Coach Chad, he does a who's our assistant 134 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,399 line metage coach? 135 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: Last year? He does a phenomenal job with pass rushing. 136 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 5: Again us in the film room understanding what keys we 137 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,680 need to see just going into that game. 138 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: With there you go given a lot of credit to 139 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,160 coach Chad k So if you want more pass rushing, 140 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,680 pass rushing technique, individual development, look no further. 141 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: Coach Chad k is the dude Chad. 142 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: Coach Chad k is the guy who's next up at 143 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,639 b YU to step up and be ballers for Brigham, who's. 144 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: Next to Byu that we're not talking about right now, 145 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,040 but a year. 146 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: From now we'll all be talking about. 147 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of guys, some guys you 148 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,199 probably already know, keanutnoboss Isa and Lasker, l J Martin, 149 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,519 Kidu Uava who just transferred into there. There's a bunch 150 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,879 of guys there that are gonna be ballers. 151 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,639 Speaker 4: What was like going up against LJA every day? 152 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,319 Speaker 5: He made it hard, which is a good thing. It 153 00:07:55,439 --> 00:07:59,439 was great competitive nature. He made me better, I got 154 00:07:59,519 --> 00:07:59,879 him better. 155 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: It was definitely great to have. 156 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: Practice, great day every day at practice. When you go 157 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,040 against the best, you become the best. 158 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: You. 159 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,199 Speaker 3: There's a fight or flight mechanism. Better to standard ground 160 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,480 and fight, and that's what Jack Kelly did against LJ. 161 00:08:15,839 --> 00:08:16,199 Speaker 4: Martin. 162 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:18,839 Speaker 3: So there's some sound bites from Jack Kelly at the 163 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,240 NFL Combine. Any thoughts, any commentary there, Ronnie, before I 164 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:24,600 move on to a couple other notes here. 165 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the of note the last clip band, 166 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 which is why I save that one for last. All 167 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,920 those guys that he mentioned I believe will get Combine invites. 168 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:32,519 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 169 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 7: You have to do the math and the data right 170 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,159 because you're a smarter man than me. That's why I 171 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:38,600 surround myself with you. But when was the last time 172 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:41,240 or the most I guess combine invites the BAU football 173 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:43,559 has gotten. I mentioned it like last month, I think, 174 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:45,879 or maybe earlier in the month. You're gonna have a 175 00:08:45,919 --> 00:08:48,759 lot next year. If FILA tasots all that decides if 176 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:50,759 he wants to go, he'll get one count a ton. 177 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: Of vas and no doubt. LG. 178 00:08:51,759 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 7: Martin, no doubt, Isaiah Glasker, no doubt. Kdu Lave, no doubt. 179 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,039 There's a bunch of guys been that I think will 180 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,799 get a combine invites on the defensive side and offensive side. 181 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: Of the ball. 182 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to say, let's see here. I want 183 00:09:06,759 --> 00:09:12,720 to say maybe the two thousand and thirteen I'll have 184 00:09:12,799 --> 00:09:13,559 to look that up. 185 00:09:14,399 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: Most recently, I want to say it was you know 186 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,399 that there is Danny Sorensen, Ethan Mana, Malauna Alani Fue. 187 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,080 It was that drafted may have been twenty fourteen. But 188 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,159 I want to say there's like five to seven guys 189 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,080 from BAU that got the invite, and that was the 190 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:35,519 most in recent history. So, but Chase Roberts and Jack Kelly, 191 00:09:36,039 --> 00:09:40,120 they're at the combine and I expect big things from Jack. Now, 192 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:42,039 I think Chase is going to test out well too. 193 00:09:42,159 --> 00:09:43,480 I think he's going to do really well in the 194 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,320 agility drills. I hope he does well in the vertical 195 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,879 and I'm intrigued to see how how he performs in 196 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:55,279 the forty time. But I don't look at at Chase 197 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,840 as like this overly like explosive, twitchy wide receiver. To 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:06,000 He's a big, strong, fairly fast, smooth operator, good catching radius, 199 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,799 good hands, and I think he'll show decently. 200 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: I want to be proven wrong, though. 201 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: I mean, like he comes in at what six three 202 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:18,320 two sixteen, he's projected per NFL draft scout to run 203 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,559 a four five four, which would which would be great. 204 00:10:21,159 --> 00:10:24,639 Remember I think Puka Nikua, if I'm not mistaken, was 205 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,120 around a four five six. So it's not like I mean, 206 00:10:30,159 --> 00:10:34,279 it's not like it's it's not slow, it's just you know, 207 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,759 Remember Puka was a value pick, one of the best 208 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,039 value picks, if not the best value pick in the draft. 209 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:47,639 He went fifth over He went fifth round, one hundred 210 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:51,080 and seventy seventh overall to the Los Angeles Rams, and 211 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:56,200 like McVeigh and his staff were like high fiving chess bumping. 212 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,519 Speaker 4: They knew they had a dude, they knew they had 213 00:10:58,519 --> 00:10:58,759 a dog. 214 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: And now he's argued the best wide receiver along with 215 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:07,279 Justin Jefferson and Jackson Smith and others at the top 216 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,919 of the food chain of that receiving receiving that elite 217 00:11:11,039 --> 00:11:15,360 core of receivers in the NFL. So I think if 218 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:16,960 he runs a mid four or five, that's great. That's 219 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:17,440 kind of what I. 220 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,519 Speaker 4: Project the matter as well. 221 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: So six three two sixteen, that's a big bodied wide 222 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,080 receiver and he can run I think where he's going 223 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,639 to be impressive though. I mean if he runs a 224 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:29,240 four to two or below pro agility, a three cone 225 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,320 below like six eight, uh, six point eight, that's really 226 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,600 good because he needs to be able to get use 227 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:43,600 his quickness and his big body take to to get 228 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:47,039 out of his brakes obviously, and then you know, come 229 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,480 back to the football and make plays that are contested. 230 00:11:49,919 --> 00:11:51,919 Speaker 4: A lah uh what. 231 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: Pook has been doing. And you can land up Chase 232 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,799 on the outside or inside. You could see him though, 233 00:11:56,879 --> 00:11:58,440 lined up a little bit more inside as a big 234 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,039 body slot. 235 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,639 Speaker 4: See how that lays out for Chase Robert. 236 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: So that's your Cougars in the pros, guys, Jack Kelly, 237 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:09,840 Chase Roberts getting ready for the NFL combine. 238 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:12,759 Speaker 4: We wish them well, we wish them luck. Go show 239 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:13,879 out for them, coups. 240 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,279 Speaker 3: That segment, ladies and gentlemen, was brought to you by 241 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Dental Prosa Utah Dentiprosovviewta dot com. Uh, if you've been 242 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:22,279 told you need a filling a crown at root Canal, 243 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,480 all I'm asking you do. 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I have to bring in 292 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,200 the most positive man in Kugarnation, the man that can 293 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:37,000 never say a bad word about Brigham. 294 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: Let's welcome him into the show. 295 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: Spencer Litton Coast and Bo Sports Nation, part of the 296 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,159 BYU TV network. 297 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,279 Speaker 4: What's up, Spencer? How are you? 298 00:14:46,559 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: Ben? 299 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 7: Good to be with you? 300 00:14:47,559 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: Brother? While I didn't say anything that could be perceived 301 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:54,399 as quote unquote bad, I'd be lying if I said 302 00:14:54,559 --> 00:14:59,399 I wasn't thinking bad right along with Kevin Young last night, 303 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,639 he actually said some hard things and I don't fault 304 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,320 him for that, But rough rough night for BYU, and 305 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,559 it feels super dramatic because it's juxtaposed against the best 306 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,759 performance of the season seventy two hours before. So it 307 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 just feels like the most dramatic high high and then 308 00:15:18,039 --> 00:15:19,120 an immediate low low. 309 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the vibe like at the at the arena, 310 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 what was the feel like on the core, what was 311 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,000 the vibe like from the players, the coaching staff like. 312 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: Throughout the game? And how would you just describe the 313 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,120 spectacle that was the lost versus U. See, they were 314 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:36,399 down thirty for most of the game. 315 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go ahead and start chronologically with the first 316 00:15:40,799 --> 00:15:44,480 frustration time out that Kevin Young took when BYU was 317 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,879 down fourteen to four. Before you could say UCF and 318 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,159 guys came over to the bench and immediately Tim Fanning, 319 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:58,480 who's essentially the defensive coordinator and one of Kevin Young's assistants, 320 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,120 started talking about effort and the game plan of you 321 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,720 know what UCF's gonna do. You've got to get back 322 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:08,399 on defense, guys, we know what they're going to try 323 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,639 and do, and it just kind of seems like BYU 324 00:16:13,039 --> 00:16:17,440 never engaged. They got punched super early, and where they 325 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,480 have been so good is at some point something clicks. 326 00:16:22,279 --> 00:16:25,440 Sometimes it's at halftime, sometimes it's late in the first half, 327 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:28,480 sometimes it's midway through the second half. But like typically 328 00:16:28,559 --> 00:16:30,639 they will re engage and then go on like this 329 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:34,080 crazy run, right, It just never happened last night. And 330 00:16:35,399 --> 00:16:38,639 Kevin Youong said he's been coaching basketball for a long time, 331 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,240 and he said, occasionally you just encountered these games where 332 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,480 it feels like absolutely nothing can go your way, and 333 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,559 it felt like it was a comedy of errors and 334 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:54,759 the perfect storm all combined into one. And then you 335 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,360 just like you want to keep playing hard, and it's 336 00:16:57,399 --> 00:17:00,320 not like the guys weren't still playing, but it just 337 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,840 felt like the details went out the window early and 338 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,920 it was like, well, what do he want us to do? 339 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,119 UCF has made eleven of sixteen three pointers in the 340 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,759 first half, were down by twenty four. We're not making layups, 341 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:16,000 we're not closing out on shooters. And not just the 342 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,799 team across the way making three pointers, but it was 343 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,559 the open shots. It was the quality of shots that 344 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,160 UCF was getting. Everything felt easy, and so felt like 345 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,079 no matter how many timeouts to be what you called, 346 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,720 the message was still the same, Like, you guys where's 347 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:35,279 the intensity, where is the effort you've got to get 348 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,480 out on shooters? I mean they're feeling it guard a 349 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:41,119 guy five feet behind the line, like you have to 350 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,480 be in his face. And so they tried a number 351 00:17:43,519 --> 00:17:45,279 of different things, tried to go to a zone just 352 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,680 to try and disrupt UCF a little bit, and then 353 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:53,640 started switching every pick one through five no matter what, 354 00:17:54,079 --> 00:17:56,200 and went with a bigger lineup to try and help 355 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,640 it there, and it just felt like nothing would work, 356 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,160 at least not consistently. So the vibe was defeat really. 357 00:18:05,279 --> 00:18:07,720 I mean at halftime, when BYU walked into the locker 358 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:10,519 room down twenty four, it felt very different than previous 359 00:18:10,599 --> 00:18:13,799 times when it was like, okay, well they'll make some 360 00:18:13,839 --> 00:18:15,759 adjustments and they'll come back and they'll be okay. And 361 00:18:16,279 --> 00:18:18,640 they were down by twenty one against Clemson at Madison 362 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,599 Square Garden, it was like what the heck was that? 363 00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:22,839 But they came out with a fury and a vengeance. 364 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,839 Just felt like BYU was tired and Kevin Young said 365 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,119 they were sleepwalking, which I think is an accurate depiction 366 00:18:31,319 --> 00:18:34,559 of what it felt like, and just a stunned crowd 367 00:18:35,079 --> 00:18:37,759 and didn't help that it was a nine pm tip, 368 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:43,240 and everyone's tired and impatient and wondering, how is this 369 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,920 the team that we saw beat Iowa State three days ago? 370 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,839 They just could not be more different. I'll add this though, 371 00:18:51,559 --> 00:18:54,160 the presence of Richie Saunders just even being on the 372 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,119 bench in that Iowa State game was an immediate mood 373 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,519 lift and such a boost for guys like k Cata 374 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,559 and some of the bench players like. His presence there 375 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,240 just kind of was like, yes, we need We're so 376 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,240 glad to have Richie back in any capacity were Richie's 377 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:13,359 doing his thing. He's having surgery this week, so he 378 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,440 couldn't be there last night, and I don't know that 379 00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:18,119 he all of a sudden would have been like this 380 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,599 magic potion for BYU. But my point is even him 381 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,799 being around the team as a true BYU guy brings 382 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,519 an immediate change in the atmosphere of the locker room, 383 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,960 the team dynamic, just because when he's around, he makes 384 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,400 everybody better. And I hope to get him back on 385 00:19:38,519 --> 00:19:40,920 the bench as soon as possible. Hope a surgery goes 386 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,680 super well to replaced or to rather repair his torn 387 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,599 ACL and we'll see. But yeah, I mean the vibe 388 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,759 that's a long answer for you, but there's a lot 389 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:57,039 there because they felt like dead man walking about four 390 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,039 minutes into the game and it was just like, man, 391 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,440 can we end the game? I when the last time 392 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,119 you remember Ben thinking like, oh, just end the game 393 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,920 and like let's get onto the next But that's kind 394 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,680 of how it felt last night when by was down 395 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,279 by thirty six at one point, absolutely unbelievable. 396 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,799 Speaker 3: Like you've been covering BYU for how long now, Spencer 397 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,359 at the basketball basketball specifically at the Merritt Center. 398 00:20:19,599 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is thirteen years. 399 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: Okay, So in those thirteen years, how many times has 400 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:30,599 BYU fans booed their team? 401 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,759 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that last night as the team 402 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:37,119 ran off the floor at halftime. 403 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought, wow, booze. 404 00:20:40,079 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: And again Kevin Young was like, look they I get it. 405 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:47,519 I'm not mad at our fans, like our team deserved it. 406 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:52,559 They played terrible. Yeah, And but I was thinking, like, 407 00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:57,720 I don't remember. I don't remember the Marriott Center. 408 00:20:57,839 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 409 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: I don't remember the last time, and I mean I've 410 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,400 been around since five is when I arrived at BYU, 411 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,240 Like I don't I don't remember from in the last 412 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,720 twenty years a BYU basketball team getting booed on their 413 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:17,039 home court. Like even when you lost by like thirty 414 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,759 to Gonzaga at home, they weren't getting booed because, like 415 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,200 the effort was good, It's just Gonzaga was that much 416 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,599 better and we weren't. Just we just weren't hitting shots right, 417 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,960 and so they were like, Okay, it wasn't an effort issue. 418 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:29,759 Speaker 4: Does that make sense? 419 00:21:29,839 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: Like, I don't remember the last twenty years BYU fans 420 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,519 going out of their way to boo their team. 421 00:21:35,599 --> 00:21:38,519 Speaker 2: Correct, especially not in the Marriott Center. I do not 422 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,400 remember a single time. 423 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 4: Like Edwards is different. 424 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: The fans there they boo about anything, right, But like 425 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,039 Merritt Center's different, they don't boo. So do you do 426 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:51,160 you think the fans are Do you think they're ticked 427 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,200 off about? Are they ticked off more at the coaches 428 00:21:54,319 --> 00:21:54,880 or the players? 429 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,559 Speaker 4: Right now? Oh? 430 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,599 Speaker 2: Man, I think it's kind of a a combination of everything. 431 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,200 I think there's frustration that there there are injuries and 432 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:10,599 BYU is I mean, I think all of the frustration 433 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:14,200 just boiled over for all of the reasons, injuries piling up, 434 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,359 inconsistent defense, and I mean, where's the you like to 435 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,480 use the will of accountability. Where is the where is 436 00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:24,079 the accountability in that? It's Is it on the coaches primarily? 437 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:24,960 Is it on the player? 438 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: Is it? 439 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: Or is it just like a perfect mix of both? 440 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,279 And I think the answer is probably closer to an 441 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:37,480 even draw on that blame. But BYU's defense, especially after 442 00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:40,559 playing better against Arizona and Iowa State, they were engaged, 443 00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:43,039 they were better, they executed the game plan. They this 444 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,319 never showed up last night. So I think it all 445 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,240 kind of culminated in this Dang it. We miss Richie, 446 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,079 we missed Austin Baker, like CABE's hand is injured, we 447 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,799 miss Nate Pickens, who's a good defender, and and he's 448 00:22:56,839 --> 00:23:00,559 happening to sit out like and you showed us that 449 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:06,119 you're still capable, So what the heck changed? And is 450 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,559 it on the coaches? Is it on the players? Probably both, 451 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:11,519 But I think it just all boiled over. And then 452 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,119 we saw them play the worst half of basketball we've 453 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,680 seen all season. Seventy two hours after they're two halves 454 00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:22,240 of the best basketball and the most complete game they've played. 455 00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:25,559 So understand the Booze still kind of shocked by it 456 00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:27,680 because it never happens at home, And I was trying 457 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,240 to think when it happened in general from like BYU fans, 458 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:34,160 and I thought of two occasions. Remember when by you 459 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,920 lost that absolute head scratcher at the Depth Center. I 460 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,519 think it was against South Dakota in twenty twenty one 461 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,640 or twenty twenty two, and it was like by you 462 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:46,079 just lost to a team that has a net ranking 463 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,640 of like two hundred and eighty in Salt Lake City, 464 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,880 and fans were they were a little disgruntled, and there 465 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,960 were some booze when BA you lost that game, or 466 00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:58,680 the game in the West Coast Conference Tournament against San 467 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,319 Diego in Day Roses last year when it was like 468 00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:05,920 four forty seven to nineteen at halftime or something, and 469 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,079 then there were some booze and a lot of frustration 470 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,079 BA fans. But gosh, those were both on neutral sites. Yeah, 471 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:16,839 this one, this one is unique. I know you probably 472 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,160 want me to answer the question, like where is more 473 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,640 of the accountability? Because I know how these coaches operate, 474 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,000 and I know them well, and I know how they 475 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,960 probably would answer. They're gonna say it's on them, like 476 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,880 they will take the blame. Kevin Young's gonna take the blame, like, hey, 477 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,480 I have got to figure it out. I got to 478 00:24:34,519 --> 00:24:37,480 find my core, my rotation. I don't know if he 479 00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:40,480 deserves it and if Tim Fanning deserves it, but he 480 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:43,480 is going to take the blame for his players about 481 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:48,160 not having them mentally right and then falling victim to 482 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,400 the whole big win hangover it fell last night. 483 00:24:53,079 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 3: Yep, No, Dad Spencer Lytton BYU Sports Nation here on 484 00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:59,960 your Utah ESPN Radio Network in a cougar beat. 485 00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:02,319 Speaker 4: Talking some Brigham basketball. 486 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,559 Speaker 3: So a couple other things that we've been broaching today 487 00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:09,319 is you know, best path forward? Obviously there were some 488 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,720 a couple of silver linings, Tylan Russ Lexi Costick. You 489 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,359 always like to talk about silver linings, But what what's 490 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,480 the best path forward right now? And where do you 491 00:25:17,519 --> 00:25:20,079 see this team going to end the regular season? 492 00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think the challenge for BIU is to find 493 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,839 the true ability to have that flush mentality where like, Okay, 494 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,480 this is a game where you watch film, you discuss 495 00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:40,400 basic consistent breakdowns in it and say we're never going 496 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:44,839 to do that again, Like this is absolutely unacceptable effort 497 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,880 and I don't care who's playing, Like, we will find 498 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,279 the five on the floor who will give maximum effort 499 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,880 for the whole game. Like that is that's the feeling 500 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,720 I got from Kevin Young last night. We got to 501 00:25:57,799 --> 00:25:59,880 find the five guys who were giving the most consistent 502 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,440 effort on both ends of the floor. So like locating 503 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:07,680 the core of who's going to do that. They thought 504 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,599 it was Mihaila Boskovich that could be the guy that 505 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,559 is the consistent starter, and he has been for the 506 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:17,119 past few games in place of Richie. But maybe it's 507 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,759 somebody else. Maybe maybe it's a Lexi Coostitch, or maybe 508 00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:24,319 it's a game where adem boop starts because they want 509 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,240 more They just want more energy on the floor immediately. 510 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:29,759 I don't know, but like they have to find the core. 511 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:34,839 And then the great thing about basketball is BYU doesn't 512 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,759 have to wait that long, Like they can just get 513 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:40,559 back to work and they got to go win a 514 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:46,559 road game at West Virginia, so rediscovering the winning formula 515 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,720 and getting right back after it. Like it's not like 516 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,799 football where you have to sometimes like you lose a 517 00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:55,200 game and you have a buy sometimes you got to 518 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,799 sit on the loss for two weeks. BYU doesn't have 519 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,240 to dwell on this for very long. It's like, Okay, 520 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,559 we're gonna be on a plane in Morgantown on Thursday, 521 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:06,599 and like we got we gotta go again. As far 522 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,920 as big picture for what was still available for BYU, 523 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,400 man the loss to UCF really hurts in the Big 524 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,400 Twelve standings because they only play once speaking of the 525 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,799 Knights and the Cougars, and now UCF has a full 526 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,279 game lead on BYU plus the tide breaker with only 527 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,119 three to play, which means BYU has to win out 528 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:29,000 and UCF has to drop two of three games for 529 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,000 BYU to regain that sixth position for the Big Twelve Tournament. 530 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,960 I don't think it's gonna happen because UCF's schedule includes 531 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,480 a home game against Baylor, a home game against Oklahoma State, 532 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,799 and then a road game against West Virginia. So maybe 533 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,640 they go two and one. BYU wins three. They finished tied, 534 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,839 but by is most likely going to be the seven 535 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,440 or gold the eight seed in Kansas City for the 536 00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:58,079 Big Twelve Tournament. Best course of action, Ben is just 537 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,400 beat West Virginia and and figure out how in the 538 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,319 world you're going to go to Cincinnati, a place you 539 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,000 got boat raced in last year and try and do 540 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,119 something that you're not expected to do, which is the 541 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,240 sweepest road trip before you come home and now have 542 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,559 to take on a resurgent Texas Tech team playing without JT. Toppin. 543 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,079 But they looked awesome. Christian Anderson's still awesome. And now 544 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,680 you've got to beat Texas Tech on your home four 545 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:25,720 on Senior night when you're honoring Richie's honors and Kava 546 00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:28,000 Cata and you don't want to send them off with 547 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,440 a loss. So gosh, just just beat West Virginia. Try 548 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:35,759 and write the ship a little bit, find your defensive 549 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,319 corps and start with the simple things. 550 00:28:39,519 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: Man. 551 00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: Just effort, consistent effort. That's what BA needs to find 552 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,000 right now, more than anything else. 553 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: BYU has suffered many season ending injuries. This is the 554 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,759 most season ending injuries I've ever seen in basketball, and 555 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,799 it's crazy. 556 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 4: I don't know why, I don't know how. 557 00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll try to diagnose and treat that particular 558 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,559 their issue in the off season, try to figure it 559 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:02,960 all out. 560 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: But uh, I want to ask you this question. 561 00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: So we've seen the jackal and hyd we've seen the ups, 562 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,319 and now we've seen the ceiling. We've kind of seen 563 00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:13,279 the floor of this team as it is currently constructed. 564 00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:17,839 How much grace will be what you fans have considering 565 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,680 the investment, considering the expectation of the preseason, considering everything 566 00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:28,480 that has gone into not only the personnel on the roster, 567 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,599 but the personnel and the resource allocation on this staff. Right, Like, 568 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:39,640 I wonder if our happiness as people as humans and 569 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,200 the fallen state that we're in okay is uh? It's 570 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:48,119 determined by expectations. Let's be honest, Like what our expectations 571 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,759 did we meet? 572 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: Right? What have we have we met? 573 00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: The have we met the expectation? Did we get the 574 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,279 roy we were looking for this year? And I know 575 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,759 that there have been expectations, maybe modified. I didn't change 576 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,359 all things considered right those season, any injuries, But what 577 00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:08,720 is what is the expectation now going forward from the 578 00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:12,960 the fan base, the donor base, the collectives, you know, 579 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,440 those individuals that have buoyed up this program to be 580 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,200 set up for a potential deep run in the NCAA tournament. 581 00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:26,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. The key to happiness in life really is managing expectations, 582 00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,319 isn't it. It's a simple concept, but it really. 583 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:34,279 Speaker 3: Is true and tell you gotta have low expectations with me. 584 00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:37,400 Just don't have high expectations. You're gonna be a lot happier. 585 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: And you'll be happy. 586 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 4: You're so happy, You're so happy. 587 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,839 Speaker 2: The question you ask is difficult because it's been such 588 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,000 a moving target based on who is available and when, 589 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,039 and the injury is no doubt about that factor in. 590 00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:59,200 I think once Dawson Baker and Nate Pickens went down, 591 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,000 it was like, Okay, well, we're good as long as 592 00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:04,359 nobody else gets injured, like this is still like an 593 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,119 Elite eight caliber team. And then when Richie went down, 594 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,960 it was like, oh, man, like can BYU win a 595 00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:16,680 tournament game? And I thought that was a little dramatic 596 00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,000 to think that It's like, okay, stop it aj is 597 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,720 still the best player in college basketball. He is now 598 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,680 at this point the expected number one pick in the 599 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,640 NBA draft. You still have Rob right the third, and 600 00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:29,880 you still have a great length on your team, like 601 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,000 you have athletes you as a long team. And they 602 00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:38,240 they showed what they are capable of in the games 603 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:41,160 against Arizona and Iowa State when they were playing elite 604 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,519 level competition and their backs were up against the wall. 605 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,119 So the AA fans got a taste of what it 606 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,559 could look like without Richie, and when they were close 607 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,160 at Arizona and then finally had the breakthrough against Iowa State. 608 00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:55,799 I think it went from man, can BYU win again? 609 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,039 They can? They can they even get out of the 610 00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:01,799 second round? Two? Okay, you're still sweet sixteen? Good, We're good, 611 00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,079 right bed Iowa State? Like yep, like DUI still sweet 612 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:09,759 sixteen team. But after last night, it's like, again, oh, man, well, 613 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:11,480 what if the OA gets like a seven seed in 614 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,519 the NCAA tournament and they're in a brutal seven to 615 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:15,839 ten matchup and it's not great? Like are they Are 616 00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,559 they gonna get upset in the first round? Like an 617 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,640 if they win the first round, is there any chance 618 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,759 they could beat a two seed and get to the 619 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:26,559 sweet sixteen? No way you can expect that that that 620 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400 BA is gonna all of a sudden magically rediscover what 621 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,759 they did against Iowall say it's all about matchups. In 622 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,200 March madness, it's all about the matchups, And the prospect 623 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,039 of BA being a seven and taking on a two 624 00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:42,680 is not great at the moment because you just you're 625 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:47,160 kind of floundering for consistency. So I would say that 626 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,000 right now the general expectation, and I would love to 627 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,880 hear if people feel differently about this. But I mean, 628 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,079 I've talked to a lot of people. I spent a 629 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,759 lot of time with BYU personnel, whether it's staff, coaches 630 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:07,880 and athletic administrators, school officials, and then obviously we're dialed 631 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,160 into the fan base through our social media interactions. But 632 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920 if I'm kind of combining all of that right now 633 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,599 for what Bya's expectation is this season in the moment, 634 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,839 it's it's probably okay, ba's probably a second round exit 635 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,559 from the NCAA Tournament, and that will feel disappointing because 636 00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:30,319 of everything that's gone into this, even with the injuries, 637 00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:34,799 even with the excuses, Like I think the expectation is, yeah, 638 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,720 probably win a game and then fingers crossed, like maybe 639 00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:39,880 they make you know, they do something that they haven't 640 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,400 done a lot of the season, They make a bunch 641 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,559 of threes, like they bring great effort, and then they 642 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,720 get out of the second round, they get back to 643 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,039 the sweet sixteen. But I don't see how it's fair 644 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,359 to expect this currently constituted team with who is available 645 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,960 to go farther than the Sweet sixteen. And maybe you 646 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,960 feel differently, Ben, but I feel like if BYU got 647 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,720 to the Sweet sixteen after everything that has happened, most 648 00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:06,759 people would feel like, gosh, you know, it was a 649 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,159 wild ride, a lot ups and downs, but boa got 650 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,440 to another Sweet sixteen, back to back Sweet sixteens for 651 00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,679 the first time ever. AJ was incredible. We'll call it good, 652 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,559 like get to the Sweet sixteen, We'll call it good. 653 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,679 But I think people are not saying the quiet part 654 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,840 out loud, which is this is probably a second round 655 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,440 exit team right now, and we're hoping it ends in 656 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,719 the Sweet sixteen at least. 657 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, quota expectations. They got to win it, well, at 658 00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:34,960 least one game. 659 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,119 Speaker 3: If they don't win one game in CUA tournament, bou 660 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,360 fans are gonna be to oed. 661 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 2: Then it's gonna be really weird. Absolutely, they're gonna be 662 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,239 to oed. 663 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 3: All right, Spencer Lynton, we appreciate you, We love you. 664 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,239 Thanks for hopping out for a Cougar beat. Let us 665 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,280 know if you need anything from us, Thanks for all 666 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:51,760 that you do. 667 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: You got it, brother. Just remember this DYU team. There's 668 00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:59,199 still twenty and eight, still twenty one in the net, 669 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,320 still still have rob right third, still have shown the 670 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,400 capability to be a competent team. So my word of 671 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,920 caution as I say goodbye to you guys, is do 672 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,559 not judge EYU on the pinnacle gaming as Iowa State. 673 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,039 Do not base your judgment of this team on the 674 00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:19,199 low point either. Rather look at the whole resume, which 675 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:24,360 is they've still beaten five Quad one teams and their 676 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,480 worst losses are against Oklahoma State and UCF, which are 677 00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:32,039 Quad two. BYU is the team that has played twenty 678 00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,480 eight games that they have been showing you consistently, especially 679 00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,920 over the last few weeks, which is, hey still top 680 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,119 twenty five calibers, still in the six seed range. Like 681 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,320 I think they're going to prove it again when they 682 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,119 go and win at least one of these two road games. 683 00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:47,840 And I think they're going to beat Texas Tech on 684 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,039 Senior Night, and we're all going to be saying, like, Okay, yeah, 685 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,719 there was a regression of the mean. This team is 686 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,000 still worthy of a six seed in the NCAA Tournament 687 00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:57,880 regardless of what happens in Kansas City. And that, my friends, 688 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,400 is how I will end that. But I appreciate you guys, 689 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,159 Thanks for having me on. 690 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,119 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, always a blessing. Talking ball with Spencer 691 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,360 Letton byu TV. 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I don't 746 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,559 want to give you a little breakdown from NFL dot 747 00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,119 Com Lance Zerlin. He's been doing this for a long 748 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:49,400 time NFL analysts. He's check tape, he's evaluated at the productivity, 749 00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:52,039 he's looked at that at the athleticism, and he has 750 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,599 waged Chase Roberts now Chase Roberts getting a higher grade 751 00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:59,800 than Jack Kelly per NFL dot com. Would you agree 752 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,360 or disagree with that? Is he a more highly rated 753 00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:07,360 talent than Jack Kelly? I mean it's not by much. 754 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,800 Remember I told you Jack was at like a five. 755 00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:13,920 Oh goodness, gracious, let me have to I have to 756 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,760 pull it up real quick. I think Jack was at 757 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,079 a five point eight two. Chase is at a five 758 00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:23,079 point nine to four. He's listed as an average backup 759 00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,360 or special team or the six foot three, twent sixteen pounder. 760 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,079 So agree or disagree with that? They're kind of like 761 00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,400 right on park. So they could be they could be 762 00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:35,000 mid to late round draft picks depending on or high 763 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,159 priority undrafted free agent depending on how they test out, 764 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,039 how they interview at the NFL Combine, Ronni, Who's the 765 00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:42,719 better NFL prospect in your opinion? 766 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 7: This is tough, right because, I mean it really depends 767 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,639 on fit men obviously. What is a team looking for? 768 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,639 You know, are you looking for a two deep guy 769 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,320 as a wide receiver, guy that's a big body, possession receiver. 770 00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:58,199 Do you go through a lot of injuries? Who's your quarterback? 771 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,039 What's your system? All that play as a factor but 772 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,079 it's so tough been on your great prospects. But I 773 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,039 have to believe that, uh, you know, Chase just based 774 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:12,280 on because the offensive player in my test a little 775 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,159 bit better. But Jack, I feel like it's right there. 776 00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 4: This is so close. 777 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 7: I hate that I have to pick these because I 778 00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:20,599 like Jack. I like, you know, the speed, the physicality 779 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,159 that he brings. But I think when you look at 780 00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,360 the production of what Chase has done over is BYU 781 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,800 career and you you saw it, Ben, We hadn't seen him, 782 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,119 but it was the West Virginia game, his top speed 783 00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:35,960 of what he got up to. He's gonna test well, Ben, 784 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,039 I think he is. So if I had to pick, 785 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,840 I think I leaned just a little bit Chase Roberts. 786 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,119 But this is like a fifty one forty nine. 787 00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 2: Ben. 788 00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be honest. 789 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 4: What do you got Vic? I know you want to 790 00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:49,079 chime in on this. 791 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 6: Hey, I just gotta go with my my guy Jack Kelly. 792 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,079 I mean just watching him, uh go after you know, 793 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,239 spy the quarterback. Watch him closed on some of those 794 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,360 guys with speed, and then how he got to the 795 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,920 quarterback it seemed like with ease and uh and then 796 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,400 when he came back from that injury. 797 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 4: How we played against Texas Tech, uh, and you know, 798 00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:17,480 he dominated. 799 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,039 Speaker 6: He dominated the number four team in the country, it seemed, 800 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,599 making plays all over the field when you know the 801 00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:26,639 rest of the team wasn't playing very well. 802 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,039 Speaker 4: Well his defense was. 803 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,119 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think there's an interesting like I think 804 00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:37,159 if Jack Kelly didn't have like hyper mobile shoulders, and 805 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:39,280 I know he got his like he's got his surgical 806 00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:41,039 procedure done. 807 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,639 Speaker 4: And so he's probably in good shape now. 808 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 3: But like if he didn't have like my hypermobile shoulders, 809 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,519 I was actually I would actually pick Jack, but just 810 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:50,760 because of like he's the juggernaut Jack, the juggernaut Kelly. 811 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 4: He's linear, he's physical, He's he's gonna test out well. 812 00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 3: I truly believe that. And I love his closing speed. 813 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,960 I love his off off the edge, and I think 814 00:42:02,039 --> 00:42:03,880 that kind of takes him over the edge as an 815 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,880 NFL prospect than that of Chase Roberts. But and the 816 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,119 other question I have too is from a competitive standpoint, Like. 817 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 4: I say this a lot on the show Missions Marriage. 818 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:27,039 Speaker 3: You know, our faith, it provides perspective, perspective can be 819 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,480 a a an element of our lives. That we revere, 820 00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:36,480 we love, we appreciate, because it's all about perspective in life. 821 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,800 But it can take the legs out from anddia as 822 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:48,119 far as like your hyper focused like transactionality of playing 823 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,880 high level football, fight or flight, sense of urgency. It's 824 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,760 all about ball. When you're a borderline late round you're 825 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,760 a late round draft pick, undrafted free agent type of player, 826 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,400 special teams. If these are accurate grades, average backup to 827 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,880 the special teamer, you got to be willing to like grind. 828 00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 4: For a minute. 829 00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:10,599 Speaker 3: You gotta find a way on the football for you. 830 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,440 You gotta be able to tackle, you gotta be able 831 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,039 to block. You gotta play football. You gotta be a 832 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,519 football player. You can't just be a wide receiver. You 833 00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:19,920 can't just be a linebacker. You got to be a 834 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:25,880 football player. Mitch means you're winning at everything. Chase has 835 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,559 to learn how to tackle, He's got to learn how 836 00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:29,639 to block, he's got to learn to run down a kickoff. 837 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,800 Because if you're a borderline guy and you don't have 838 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,360 any other specialty, Like I think Mitch Matthews was a 839 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,079 tremendous wide receiver athlete, big, strong, fast, I think he 840 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:46,199 just wasn't good at all those other things that because 841 00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,159 he was a borderline guy, and he wasn't a wide receiver, 842 00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,559 a tried and true wide receiver three or four. He's 843 00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:58,440 in that wide receiver five range, specialty wide receiver. I 844 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,360 kind of feel that way about Chase. I'm like, so 845 00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:06,159 I lean I'm leaning Jack Kelly, even though he's got 846 00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,599 some injury issues. I'm leaning Jack in that debate, not 847 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,599 taking anything away from Chase. I just wonder how much 848 00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:14,159 of a dog he is and how much of a 849 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,320 sense of urgency and a passion he has for competition. 850 00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:28,199 It is a transactional doggy dog dog just dog you 851 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,519 dog world like, that's what it is. It's crazy in 852 00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:36,480 the NFL. So, but this is what Lan Serland had 853 00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:37,280 to say about Chase. 854 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,079 Speaker 4: Okay. 855 00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 3: Roberts is a two time captain and has stare stepped 856 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,079 his production in each season at BUYU. He has good 857 00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:51,119 size and adequate speed, but won't be an NFL separator 858 00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:55,159 on deep throws. He runs routes with good disguise and 859 00:44:55,199 --> 00:45:00,400 above average technique. He lacks foot quickness for easy press release, 860 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,039 but has the footwork necessary to get in and out 861 00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:04,320 of breaks cleanly. 862 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 4: Over the first two levels. 863 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,039 Speaker 3: He plays tough through contact and is an above average 864 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:13,800 combat catch winner. He slowed to gain positioning on fifty 865 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,880 fifties downfield, though, Roberts is an older prospect, which could 866 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,239 impact his draft slotting, but has the size and talent 867 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,960 to make a roster. Strengths are good size with smooth 868 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,199 strides getting downfield, maintains discipline to disguise pattern intentions, breaks 869 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,599 off shorter routes at chrisp angles, rhythmic footwork getting in 870 00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:37,199 and out of intermediate breaks, keeps himself between the defender 871 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,159 of the ball, plays through contact and make contestant catches. 872 00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:45,320 Captures tight window throws with sudden hands. His weaknesses average 873 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,360 foot quickness when stemming his press release, lets his foot 874 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,760 off the gas when turning to locate the deep ball, 875 00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:57,519 has trouble making adjustments to off frame throws, tardian attempting 876 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:00,719 to gain top positioning on downfield fifty five fifties, and 877 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,360 then below average run blocker for his size. Those are 878 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,840 the strengths and weaknesses per NFL dot COM's Lance Zerlin 879 00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:11,920 overall production score seventy, athleticism score seventy three, and then 880 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,320 total score seventy three that would be number eighteen amongst 881 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,679 wide receivers in this NFL draft pack class per Lance 882 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:25,679 Zerlan within five point ninety four grade on the prospect 883 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:26,880 grade that he's given them. 884 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 4: So check that out. Let me know if you agree 885 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,400 or disagree. That's your inside or report. 886 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 3: Brought to you by Orthroprosfutah Orthroprosiutah dot com. If you're 887 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,639 an offensive defensive lineman, break up those knees, those ankles, 888 00:46:39,639 --> 00:46:42,760 those rists, those elbows. 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