Speaker 1: We was there for business, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So you said, yeah, you never watched any of my movies.
Speaker 2: I'm just a podcast host to you.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: You know, were you intimidated by the fact when you
Speaker 2: heard that I was a previous.
Speaker 3: Adult film star.
Speaker 1: Nah, not at all. Intimidation would intimidated.
Speaker 2: But I mean some people not intimidated by me in
Speaker 2: general as a person, but some people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: what is she going to talk about as a just
Speaker 2: you know, the length or the description of my show.
Speaker 2: It's it's like for me, it's like it's not Yes.
Speaker 1: I guess you're right with how the internet's just just
Speaker 1: this ocean of space anything and people can flip things
Speaker 1: and make it whatever they want. Yeah, nah, I think
Speaker 1: I think. I think I'm good at controlling my narrative.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like, right, has some fun,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: For sure, you know, it's private talk, so it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, we don't know each other, Like we said,
Speaker 2: we were trying to get a little bit more intimate,
Speaker 2: so it's like, you know, we go to the level
Speaker 2: of your comfort level. It's nothing that it's crazy, it's
Speaker 2: nothing and it's not because I was who I was
Speaker 2: doesn't define that. I can't talk about what other things
Speaker 2: as well. So it's like, you know, there's more depth
Speaker 2: to this show than just those things. But we will
Speaker 2: little later get to truth. With Texas coming on the show,
Speaker 2: She's like, what show is that? So you're off the market?
Speaker 2: You're not, You're taken what she intimidated she could have
Speaker 2: came to I feel like she'd have to be a
Speaker 2: wrong independent woman to like let you be.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like we've known each other for years,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I feel
Speaker 1: like I got the coolest girl in the world, Like
Speaker 1: I've known that. We've been friends before we started. Like
Speaker 1: it's a different type of relationship when you're friends with
Speaker 1: someone and y'all know each other, y'all talk about everything.
Speaker 3: It's just how long have you guys been a couple?
Speaker 1: Let's keep all that, you know whatever. But it's it's
Speaker 1: so happy.
Speaker 2: So is it something new that the friendship just turned
Speaker 2: into I know you? You want to keep you some
Speaker 2: other private.
Speaker 1: I know each other for like ten years.
Speaker 2: But as far as like the relationship part, that kind
Speaker 2: of switched because you were friends for a long time,
Speaker 2: but like it was.
Speaker 1: A perfect transition, A perfect perfect transition.
Speaker 3: Is it? You know you're right about it? We're going
Speaker 3: to hear I.
Speaker 1: Definitely have for sure. I've written about Yes, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: she's a She's definitely my muse in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: She's beautiful, she's a strong woman. She's creative, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like she's like, I go play music for
Speaker 1: her when I leave the studio. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I might sneak a record in one of her playlists
Speaker 1: and like on her phone, like and just what I
Speaker 1: like that, I'm saying, See what she feel about it.
Speaker 1: She's very honest and just you know, do I like the.
Speaker 2: Way that you're you know, you're you're even though you're
Speaker 2: wearing shades of their mister mysterious.
Speaker 3: You can see your eyes.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to see them a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you but.
Speaker 2: They glimmer when you talk about her, and it seems
Speaker 2: very genuine love. So I am happy that you found
Speaker 2: someone that you know not only is the best friend,
Speaker 2: but you guys have gone through things obviously from knowing
Speaker 2: each other in the depths of who you are.
Speaker 3: The highs and lows.
Speaker 2: You know that, like you don't have to you know
Speaker 2: that that you could overcome those things when those were happening.
Speaker 1: So think about it.
Speaker 3: Very cool, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. The thing about being an artist and
Speaker 1: like traveling and being around something, it's like having someone
Speaker 1: that you're committed to and having like a foundation. It
Speaker 1: just gives you a sense of like control, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, not to say I will be
Speaker 1: going wild crazy, but there's a lot of temptation and
Speaker 1: so for me, it just gives it gives me a
Speaker 1: sense of like knowing, like I'm.
Speaker 3: Good, Like I got the home base, just like I.
Speaker 1: Have something that's solid, you know, something that's worth like
Speaker 1: me just focus and just it just gives me. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like I'm focused if it helps me to
Speaker 1: focus more?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you are not when you are
Speaker 2: not in a relationship, that you're not as focused because
Speaker 2: you like, I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to stay up all night and go from whatever
Speaker 1: I got going on straight to the airport, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get rest so that when I land in town,
Speaker 1: I could take my girl to lunch. I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: I'm gon stay up all night and party. Now.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, cool, your responsibility is a
Speaker 3: little bit different.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the spot.
Speaker 3: But are ye.
Speaker 2: Girls at that time when you were single, was it
Speaker 2: like always where it was like it had to be
Speaker 2: a thing or it was just to be being out
Speaker 2: and it didn't matter about.
Speaker 1: The girls both okay? Right?
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like the lifestyle like sometimes like why be
Speaker 2: home when it's like you can go hear noise and
Speaker 2: just be distracted.
Speaker 1: You know, I never was that person, like I never
Speaker 1: always let the person is like, yo, it's Saturday, is Friday,
Speaker 1: I gotta be outside. I was. It was more like
Speaker 1: I A is the homies going out? Did I meet
Speaker 1: somebody that I want to take out? And were just
Speaker 1: going out to have a good time? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I've always been like I've always been very
Speaker 1: much so I thought for myself, red mom, and this
Speaker 1: is I gotta be in a vibe to do it.
Speaker 1: I'll just do it just to do it because I'm
Speaker 1: more for you.
Speaker 3: Obviously, you picked a friend that you knew for a while,
Speaker 3: so was hi.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, but it's dating hard for me.
Speaker 2: Was it like as far as like you know, obviously
Speaker 2: you are a celebrity and you can't just be on
Speaker 2: dating apps or maybe you know those kind of things.
Speaker 2: So it's like, how authentic do people do you meet?
Speaker 3: How do you know it's genuine? How do you know
Speaker 3: how to like? You know?
Speaker 1: No way somebody tell you they know off top? Obviously,
Speaker 1: if you have a good discernment of people, you're not
Speaker 1: going to doate somebody that you can tell. It's just there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I think women are
Speaker 1: a lot smarter than these days, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like if you if a woman is out for something,
Speaker 1: it's like if she hasn't learned to be discreet about
Speaker 1: it and be patient and be like, then you might
Speaker 1: know off top, like what it is.
Speaker 3: Right as far as dating or trying to get you
Speaker 3: to like hurt your.
Speaker 1: Attention, what do you mean as far as dating? Because
Speaker 1: data is like you know, you spend more time. It's
Speaker 1: not like a one night stand like that that is
Speaker 1: what it is. But you said dating, So when dating somebody,
Speaker 1: you should be able to tell in time what the
Speaker 1: situation is. I feel like time always tells you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You might not never straight off top
Speaker 1: the time always tells I take your time with it.
Speaker 1: If you're trying to really date somebody, take it serious,
Speaker 1: if you're just having some fun, just had a communication.
Speaker 1: Know what y'all doing.
Speaker 2: Well, it seems like that's the formula that worked for you, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 2: But you know you now you know what it is.
Speaker 2: But that's you know, time is just time isn't really anything.
Speaker 2: That's what you make it it really is.
Speaker 1: I think I think that we calculate our experiences our
Speaker 1: time with experiences, you know what I'm saying. I think
Speaker 1: experiences is a great way to calculate time, which is
Speaker 1: why you should be selective about how you spend your
Speaker 1: time and what type of experiences you want to have
Speaker 1: with your time.
Speaker 2: So for sure, sure, how would you describe the current
Speaker 2: state of R and B?
Speaker 1: Experiment? Too experimental?
Speaker 3: Experimental?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I say that because I feel like hip hop
Speaker 1: R and B is an experimental side of R and B.
Speaker 3: Would you still categorize yourself in that genre?
Speaker 1: I'm an R and B singer, right, But I'm also
Speaker 1: if you listen to my catalog, you know I have
Speaker 1: records like Breakup that are a little bit more leaning
Speaker 1: towards like experimental R and B hip hop. Then I
Speaker 1: got records like Crying Out for Me, which aren't your
Speaker 1: normal R and B chords because it hit harder than
Speaker 1: some of my records like how Do I Breathe, but
Speaker 1: it's still got the R and B essence in it.
Speaker 1: So I would say that I'm a Yeah, I'm an
Speaker 1: experimental R and B artist, and that I experiment each
Speaker 1: project with a different sound of what I am. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say, yes, okay.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, what do you think music
Speaker 2: needs in twenty twenty two?
Speaker 1: What they need definitely more me. I feel like, no, seriously,
Speaker 1: I feel.
Speaker 3: Like, are you gonna give us more you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. It's on the way right now as
Speaker 1: we speak. You know. I've been cooking. Then in the studio,
Speaker 1: got a crazy summer record coming. Not sure what it's
Speaker 1: gonna drop, but it might be out when the record
Speaker 1: come out, So I'm excited about that. The project coming
Speaker 1: after the after summer spring. I'm gonna drop a project
Speaker 1: right now. I'm just drying sings, yeah, because it's gonna
Speaker 1: come pretty quick.
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly summer spring.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna try, like I want to make it
Speaker 1: feel like summer is longer than what it is this year,
Speaker 1: Like I want to make it like we had a
Speaker 1: crazy stress ye for what it is, I got you,
Speaker 1: I got you. But like I want to make it
Speaker 1: like with the music, I want to make it feel
Speaker 1: longer than what it is. Even my even my slower
Speaker 1: records that are more I still want them to feel
Speaker 1: more like a conversation and more like fun than depressing.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a vibe.
Speaker 1: It's definitely gonna be a vibe for sure.
Speaker 3: Do you think R and B singers get more pussy
Speaker 3: than rappers?
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 3: We only want the truth here.
Speaker 2: It's getting serious.
Speaker 1: For my I'm get serious when I take my glasses
Speaker 1: off like most people they get I'm taking off against it. Nah.
Speaker 1: But like I think, depending on what type of R
Speaker 1: and B singer you are, depending on what type of
Speaker 1: rapper you are, it's different type of pussy is a
Speaker 1: PC answer, Like what is who's getting what? Oh? Listen,
Speaker 1: it's different, Like I can. I'm in a relationship, So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like I could if I was single,
Speaker 1: I could fuck with ten girls and a rapper could
Speaker 1: fuck with ten girls, right, but the quality and the
Speaker 1: type could be different from what I've seen. It just
Speaker 1: depends on the person, because I've seen certain rappers get
Speaker 1: a certain quality of woman. When I say quality, I
Speaker 1: don't mean to judge anybody. I'm just saying, like the look, man,
Speaker 1: everybody know where the good restaurant is with good foods.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what where the
Speaker 1: fast food is? Right? So you're around this, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, quality? No quality? I would
Speaker 1: say me my quality is that I would say a
Speaker 1: different level than most R and B. I can't speak
Speaker 1: for every ARMB artist. I can't. I can't because I've
Speaker 1: seen some RMB artists like so not everybody.
Speaker 3: It's not everybody's panty droppers. Not everybody's Like.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying you can be a panty dropper,
Speaker 1: but what quality.
Speaker 3: Of who gets more? Like the person who is in
Speaker 3: pursuit quality pussy?
Speaker 2: For me, I feel like I would want quality pussy.
Speaker 2: Who's getting quality pussy.
Speaker 1: The one who pays for it with his time and energy.
Speaker 1: Time and energy which is not necessarily money or like physical,
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's the energy you put into it.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I'm saying, how you how
Speaker 1: you coming to women? Because a woman that's that's quality,
Speaker 1: she know her works right. Rather she she gonna choose
Speaker 1: who she want to she can dive with who she
Speaker 1: want to fuck with. But it's just like what you're
Speaker 1: gonna you know what you're gonna do to get it?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I know that you're currently in a real relationship.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about like earlier days and things going on
Speaker 2: and the whole like being an artist and like there's
Speaker 2: all these things of the groupies and have you ever
Speaker 2: had like a groupie story that was a crazy groupie story?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah? And you tell someone here and too many.
Speaker 2: That's good, tell us one of those ones that just
Speaker 2: stand out in your mind, Like asked you that there
Speaker 2: was probably two.
Speaker 1: Really, I did a tour in Australia and there was
Speaker 1: a group of beautiful.
Speaker 3: Girls aggressive in Australia, some of them, not all of
Speaker 3: them women in general.
Speaker 1: I feel like Australia, they played fifty in Australia, like
Speaker 1: they gonna go, but some of them played a fifty.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying Like that that it's like
Speaker 1: you might have to see him too nice in the row.
Speaker 3: Wanted to put in a little work.
Speaker 1: No, not like like say okay, say I go out
Speaker 1: and I have a show and I do it, have
Speaker 1: the part and I see a shorty She's like, oh
Speaker 1: you got too many girls. You already got this O.
Speaker 3: This is like is this like aiel, all right?
Speaker 1: You gone, I'm off you. Like the moment you come
Speaker 1: in me like that, It's like I ain't need it.
Speaker 1: You ain't my type. I'm off you. I'm on to
Speaker 1: the next flat out damn boom. She see how okay? Cool?
Speaker 1: I see it. She might be in the next city
Speaker 1: next day. Then it's like it's on, It's over like.
Speaker 3: That, so they would follow you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I had situations where
Speaker 1: girl girls will fly to the next city, come to
Speaker 1: the next show, turn up, but the first night is
Speaker 1: like nah, So what's the it's a psychological thing. I
Speaker 1: don't get it.
Speaker 2: What's the craziest what I mean, yes, flying to each thing?
Speaker 2: But like did one of those people who flew whatever
Speaker 2: stand out more like either like.
Speaker 1: Nah, she made her friends get down with whatever was
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 3: So you took advantage of what she was.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, why wouldn't because you wasted my time at first.
Speaker 3: I mean time is money times, and it's not even that.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like it's a psychological thing.
Speaker 1: I like the let women go through the psychological some women,
Speaker 1: not all women. Women go through the psychological part of
Speaker 1: deciding when and how they want to give you the pussy.
Speaker 2: It's like like but even at that time, like you're
Speaker 2: like you're blowing up, you're doing all these things. It's
Speaker 2: like you have access to whatever you want to do,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, like you're a good looking individual
Speaker 2: and so you have power you like to fuck. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you're young, You're not even all these things, so
Speaker 2: it's like why not. That's why it's like for me,
Speaker 2: it's like exciting to see the power that people use
Speaker 2: with that not in a bad way, but like you said,
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 3: How they want to give it to you. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like and like people are throwing it at you.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure your dms are crazy. I'm sure
Speaker 3: you could have like do you even answer your own DM?
Speaker 1: Not? No more? No more? Yeah. I think I think
Speaker 1: the energy I'm on right now, I think like girls
Speaker 1: kind of normal is not like to like pussy you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like straight off the top, it's
Speaker 1: more like hay king, how you doing or what's up.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, it was just like pussy titties
Speaker 1: this every day just it was crazy. Now it's more like,
Speaker 1: let me see if you even like that type of vibe,
Speaker 1: or some girls might be more mature, like they might.
Speaker 2: Make you How did you like I have all of that,
Speaker 2: all that craziness going on? How did you like kind
Speaker 2: of evade like allegations from any person being crazy? Like,
Speaker 2: because nowadays it's like girls could just say anything, make
Speaker 2: up things. You know, there's things in the news every
Speaker 2: other day like how do you how did you avoid it?
Speaker 2: Because you have never had to scandal anything.
Speaker 1: If I tell you, then I probably won't be able
Speaker 1: to do it again. So I'm not gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: But there's a secret cheek code.
Speaker 1: I'm very good at it. So you're just very good.
Speaker 3: I just slick with your words.
Speaker 1: Words is energy energy, And it's just like yo, like
Speaker 1: don't don't don't belaive me, You're not the one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't belaive me. Girls whoever like just my narratives.
Speaker 3: Mine, I don't you just give up that or like that.
Speaker 1: No, just like I don't play about my narratives like
Speaker 1: I don't care who youre was like, I didn't work
Speaker 1: this hard to fuck up mind. I'm not gonna do
Speaker 1: nothing crazy to do it. I'm always like, all right,
Speaker 1: you come around me like I need your phone. I'm
Speaker 1: you on video before you hear what you hear. You
Speaker 1: came on your own. Man, you feel good. All of
Speaker 1: that that has to get.
Speaker 3: Done off top so boundaries as you should, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like you have to protect your sofa
Speaker 3: that you just never know.
Speaker 1: You never know, you still roll in the dice. It
Speaker 1: don't matter. Mike can say you did something.
Speaker 2: And even now I think it's still just like years later,
Speaker 2: you know, It's just it's crazy. All the world has
Speaker 2: definitely changed in more ways than one. Yes, ma'am, how
Speaker 2: long before do you think NFTs completely take over the
Speaker 2: music industry?
Speaker 1: When you say completely take over, and which way do
Speaker 1: you may completely take over? You may completely influence the
Speaker 1: way that we do business creatively in the business, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't know the answer
Speaker 1: to that question.
Speaker 3: Are you currently in an NFT type of situation.
Speaker 1: Not musically, but I do have two projects I'm working
Speaker 1: on that are that are influenced by the NFT block
Speaker 1: chain and the creative part of it. But mine aren't
Speaker 1: quick money grabs. They're more of like build out, you know,
Speaker 1: real road maps and just you know, things that bring
Speaker 1: my fans, not just like quick money grabs. It's like
Speaker 1: this story behind this NFT. There's a story behind what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I want you to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: And you know, just because I feel like the NFT
Speaker 1: world is dope. Artists dope. But even with art that
Speaker 1: people buy, people buy it because of the story behind
Speaker 1: the art. You know, it could be the craziest story,
Speaker 1: it could be something simple, but I kind of want
Speaker 1: to take that same direction.
Speaker 3: Are you doing something with your music?
Speaker 1: It's arts, it's both, it's both art and music based.
Speaker 2: Okay, ye, Are you an artist yourself? Are you having
Speaker 2: an artist that kind of work with you said.
Speaker 1: I consider myself an artist, but I don't know how
Speaker 1: to do the graphics. So I have an artist that's
Speaker 1: working with a few artists that's working with me side
Speaker 1: by side.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: What would you say that are your short and long
Speaker 2: term goals right now for your career.
Speaker 1: Start with long term. They change often, but today where
Speaker 1: I'm at with it, it's really just about happiness and
Speaker 1: making sure that I can enjoy the fruit of my labor.
Speaker 1: So that also goes into protec and nervative. That goes
Speaker 1: into protecting you know, my craft, my music.
Speaker 2: Obviously making a pandemic situation going on, Like what kind
Speaker 2: of put everybody into perspective? Or was that the way
Speaker 2: you your narrative was always was in life?
Speaker 1: I think I've always been like that, but I think
Speaker 1: that situation, amongst others, defined it for me to whereas
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, all that really matters is
Speaker 1: being happy and enjoying the energy like you put into it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that means taking care
Speaker 1: of your health now, Like I like to go out,
Speaker 1: like to have fun, but I like to take care
Speaker 1: of myself so that I can enjoy later on ten
Speaker 1: years from now, I can enjoy all of the energy
Speaker 1: I put into making the money, into saving and flipping
Speaker 1: and doing this and that. When I got millions and
Speaker 1: millions and millions in the bank, and you know, I
Speaker 1: can really just sit and just let all my mon
Speaker 1: if I say something crazy happening to say, we have
Speaker 1: another pandemic and we got to sit down or things
Speaker 1: shit could be wicked, be wars. We never know what
Speaker 1: could happen. So what that situation did do is prepare
Speaker 1: me to think long term in a sense of security,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, getting there quicker, which means
Speaker 1: a different level of focus and so forth or so on.
Speaker 3: Are you still?
Speaker 1: And of course music, music, music, touring, publishing company, film TV,
Speaker 1: pitching projects, creating different projects, Signing artists maybe, but more
Speaker 1: so signing producers writers. I think signing artists is just
Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility and I want to see where
Speaker 1: the industry is going. Okay, yeah, and can continue to
Speaker 1: develop my independent label.
Speaker 3: So that's long term.
Speaker 1: Long term and family one day.
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's talk about short term short.
Speaker 1: Term goes touring, traveling, touring the world again. You know,
Speaker 1: there's been a while since I've performed outside of the US,
Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to touch and overseas.
Speaker 3: The announce your tour.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about going, you know, touring with
Speaker 2: you know Shawn te Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Shri is gonna be fun.
Speaker 3: Do you with the world opening back up?
Speaker 2: Do you feel love you kind of difference because they're
Speaker 2: gonna change how you perform because of COVID or is
Speaker 2: there any restrictions based off of it?
Speaker 1: Not as far as my team goes. But obviously we
Speaker 1: got to follow the guidelines of whoever's putting a production on.
Speaker 1: But once you get in the arena and the fans
Speaker 1: is there and the people's in the building, like nobody
Speaker 1: thinks about that. You are just there to just enjoy
Speaker 1: each other's energy and keep the energy, keep the flow going.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't even think about it, like
Speaker 1: I think they're loosening up on it obviously now you know,
Speaker 1: kind of disappeared a little bit in the media and
Speaker 1: this and that the US is kind of loosening up
Speaker 1: on it. Show. We'll see, we'll see what happens. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun regardless. That's gonna be lit.
Speaker 2: Can you describe the feeling of being in like a
Speaker 2: tour like that? Is it like the excitement of stepping
Speaker 2: on stage? Like do you how does that feel for you? You know,
Speaker 2: you said it's been a long time to be like
Speaker 2: how can you you have any preparations for that.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think different tours different energy.
Speaker 1: Like the longer the tour is, it's like it's like sex.
Speaker 1: When you first start, it's like the warm up or
Speaker 1: promo can be four play right you get on stage
Speaker 1: your first week. If you got forty eight shows my
Speaker 1: last big tours forty eight shows, the first week you're
Speaker 1: warming up, you're taking all everything you rehearse for and
Speaker 1: you're actually putting it to action. It's like you've been
Speaker 1: on a date with this girl and then now you
Speaker 1: along with the are in a space. How you it's
Speaker 1: the vibes all that's what you was talking on the phone.
Speaker 1: Let's go. You know what I'm saying. It's like that.
Speaker 1: And so I think like midway through tours when you
Speaker 1: really start to get your groove and like I really
Speaker 1: start to like become really comfortable with my show dancers band,
Speaker 1: and then it just becomes a different type of energy.
Speaker 1: It becomes like a whole moving because now you're in it,
Speaker 1: in it, yeah, you know everything. You don't got to
Speaker 1: think about the steps no more, and everything is just
Speaker 1: everything's into and then muscle memory, vocal memory, all that,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can relate to it.
Speaker 3: In a different ways.
Speaker 2: But you know, I say I'm a performer, I just
Speaker 2: don't sing, you know, I was on stage and a
Speaker 2: lot of different ways I dance and perform, but you're
Speaker 2: putting on a show.
Speaker 3: Like for me, it's way different.
Speaker 2: Again, but I felt that, you know, that rock star
Speaker 2: like kind of vibes, like the stadium they as you shows,
Speaker 2: and it's, uh, it's it's it's a cool feeling. It's
Speaker 2: you know, it's very definitely adrenaline rushing in a very
Speaker 2: satisfying way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super satisfying, especially if you're able to get
Speaker 1: lost in it. For sure, if you're able to get
Speaker 1: lost in any creation, it's like it's like you really
Speaker 1: get to see the other side of your spirit and
Speaker 1: the flesh, you know, doing shit like that, like whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's all a process.
Speaker 2: And that's why for me, it's all about energy and
Speaker 2: how you do the best things and how you like
Speaker 2: feel that vibe.
Speaker 1: That's how do you feel about what you're doing, like
Speaker 1: every moment we're creating, like how you feel about it
Speaker 1: or like you're really in it, like you really.
Speaker 2: You know, it's sometimes I think like being a creator.
Speaker 2: You don't realize some like the influence and things that
Speaker 2: you do because it's just something that's come second nature.
Speaker 2: So for me, it's like, you know, with this is,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I wanted to do a podcast,
Speaker 2: but when I did it, I loved it and it
Speaker 2: was just something very happened genuinely, And it's you know,
Speaker 2: I talk a lot.
Speaker 3: I like to know, I like people.
Speaker 2: I like the how to figure out why you are
Speaker 2: the way you are, like from where you're from.
Speaker 1: And so you like the psychology of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. You know, I minored in sociology.
Speaker 2: I'm very big and you know, the study of like
Speaker 2: people in their environments and like you know how like
Speaker 2: you know, even like your upbringing, how did that influence you.
Speaker 3: Being an artists?
Speaker 2: You know, how did that you know make you impacting
Speaker 2: like the you know, the hardships that happened back then,
Speaker 2: Like did that impact like the soulfulness and how you
Speaker 2: create music or you know, your song writing process, Like
Speaker 2: how does all those.
Speaker 3: Things pick for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I would definitely say like growing up in
Speaker 1: Baltimore and seeing so many different sizes of pros and
Speaker 1: cons and choices and how choices play affecting your future
Speaker 1: in your present life. So, you know, seeing my older cousins,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, selling drugs, Seeing my aunties
Speaker 1: and my uncles and my mom and them using it
Speaker 1: like you know, they came from the you know, the
Speaker 1: set in these eighties heroine pandemic bottom like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I got the chance to see
Speaker 1: all of these different sides of the human experience. But
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to see, you know, someone
Speaker 1: that was taking the creative virtue and applying it and
Speaker 1: having success with it. So I think we're not It's
Speaker 1: been a blessing, right, But if it wasn't for my mom,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here, you know what I'm saying. She
Speaker 1: saw my talent first. She saw it when I was
Speaker 1: four years old, singing Whitney Houston and boister Man and
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, in a living room with
Speaker 1: a mic and some diapers, like you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She saw it, and she just kept music around me
Speaker 1: because she didn't want me to get caught up into
Speaker 1: the other world. She kind of wanted to blind me
Speaker 1: by my love for music, and it was blinding until
Speaker 1: I got old enough to understand what was going on
Speaker 1: around me, and then it was just like all right,
Speaker 1: Like I had to make those choices, those personal choices
Speaker 1: throughout life, you know, even as a teenager doing music.
Speaker 1: It's like I do I dive deep into like this
Speaker 1: world that's just you know, Sam Sawder, and I can
Speaker 1: do whatever I want and get away with it. I've
Speaker 1: seen all of that already. I know what that leads to.
Speaker 1: So it kind of protected me in that sense. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't need to dive into certain shit.
Speaker 1: I'm cool.
Speaker 3: Do you still have stuff? Do you do you stuff
Speaker 3: with your foundation?
Speaker 1: I shut it down after four years of working on it.
Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of it by myself, finding
Speaker 1: it by myself. I left out of Baltimore. I let
Speaker 1: it run for like another year, and then it just
Speaker 1: kind of fell apart. So I'm looking forward to going
Speaker 1: back and doing some more things, but on a larger scale,
Speaker 1: more like kind of what we're talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: mental health, big thing. Writing a book right now actually
Speaker 1: about it and the process that I would like to
Speaker 1: use in the different tools that I would like to
Speaker 1: use to kind of get to a space of helping
Speaker 1: someone rearrange and change their whole outlook on their life,
Speaker 1: their environment, and if you're still in an environment, how
Speaker 1: to how to navigate that environment using certain tools because
Speaker 1: I've had to do it in this game, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it's powerful, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: For me, it's always like you know, again with the show,
Speaker 2: it's like talking like knowledge is power and things you
Speaker 2: know you don't know, and a lot of it's just
Speaker 2: like things that we don't realize applying. You know, we
Speaker 2: from fields of things that we do, different types of
Speaker 2: artistry or whatever, but there's so many similarities and things
Speaker 2: with very so many differences, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like it just walks the same thing, and it's
Speaker 2: just for me, it's always been about the energy and
Speaker 2: like what it is and not like where you're from
Speaker 2: or what it is. It's like, yeah, we vibe, we vibe.
Speaker 2: If we don't, we don't, and that's just you know
Speaker 2: how it is. But I think it's a beautiful thing
Speaker 2: to keep that going with like a platform that you
Speaker 2: have and like taking the tools that you've had and
Speaker 2: learned as the successful man that you are today and
Speaker 2: passing that on to other people because you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of people don't have those outlets or a lot
Speaker 2: of people. I don't think enough people talk about it,
Speaker 2: you know, like you know in our you know la
Speaker 2: there's so many things and that we have that self help,
Speaker 2: this on whatever and what you want to dabble in.
Speaker 2: But you know, the masses of the world don't have
Speaker 2: enough people advocating for that, you know. And with you
Speaker 2: having such a wide vass, like you said you'd pick
Speaker 2: a continent.
Speaker 3: You know, people know you everywhere. You know, that's a
Speaker 3: beautiful thing. You know.
Speaker 2: It's really crazy to have your songs like people you know,
Speaker 2: like I definitely guilty of buying CD of yours.
Speaker 3: You can, definitely you can. So back in.
Speaker 2: Those days, that's how we're all the I had on
Speaker 2: the CD like Watchman thing where you like actually have
Speaker 2: it with headphones, like I used to.
Speaker 1: Scratch my ship all the time, but mad as hell,
Speaker 1: like trying to let's move it out. That's dope.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's so it's it's just cool to
Speaker 2: have that the like the knowledge of now it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you are a real person. Things happen, you know,
Speaker 2: and it made you who you are today. But it
Speaker 2: could go both ways. It could go negative, it could
Speaker 2: go positive, but you took it in you know, a
Speaker 2: positive way, and now you're taking it and making it
Speaker 2: even more successful and being like, hey, I want to
Speaker 2: help other people as well.
Speaker 1: Well, it's that's really dope. And what you just said
Speaker 1: a lot of is true. More importantly, it's just like purpose.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. For me, it goes back
Speaker 1: to purpose. It all goes back to purpose, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And purpose have become has become more
Speaker 1: important to me over the past, even before the pending.
Speaker 1: I say, over the past, for years of my life.
Speaker 1: Like what am I doing it for? In the end?
Speaker 1: Like what else can I do to show people who
Speaker 1: I am? Music is one of things, Like It's only
Speaker 1: so much you can show with videos and music. It's
Speaker 1: only so much content about your real true self and
Speaker 1: about your purpose that you can put into that. Right.
Speaker 1: So I'm also a writer. I like writing, like I
Speaker 1: enjoy taking my thoughts, creating, creating solutions. Well from a
Speaker 1: subjective point.
Speaker 3: Of view, an take us through that process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean as best as I can. I think that.
Speaker 1: So Fantasys, we're having a conversation right now. So my
Speaker 1: mental process after I leave here, when I get in
Speaker 1: the car and I'm driving to the studio or wherever
Speaker 1: I gotta go, I'm thinking, I'm playing back in my head. Naturally,
Speaker 1: my subconscious mind is playing back everything that we talked
Speaker 1: about about, and I'm trying to find places in which
Speaker 1: certain things we spoke about fits with other goals that
Speaker 1: I have, Like whether it be in the book or whatever,
Speaker 1: what can I pull from all my experiences to apply
Speaker 1: it to what I'm doing, like, because it's all connected, right,
Speaker 1: and so that's how I do. So I'll have a
Speaker 1: conversation with one of my homies who's an exec in
Speaker 1: the industry. Maybe we might be talking about mental health
Speaker 1: and how you know, going from you know, being somebody's
Speaker 1: assistant to becoming an A and R. Like what the
Speaker 1: mental process of that was, Like what was his virtues
Speaker 1: before versus what they are now? And then I might
Speaker 1: apply that. So it's like that. My process is like
Speaker 1: a real time. It's taking from one experience and applying
Speaker 1: to the other end. Something you said earlier about negative
Speaker 1: and positive is the balance in it all. Wherever there's
Speaker 1: a negative, it's law there's an extreme positive. On the
Speaker 1: other end of it, it's all about how you look
Speaker 1: at it. And I think that learning that principle and
Speaker 1: applying that principle is what can help somebody that feels stuck,
Speaker 1: because most of the time that's what people feel because
Speaker 1: of the pressure and the magnetism of the environment around them,
Speaker 1: feels so heavy that they feel stuck in a certain place.
Speaker 1: And so the only thing that can get you out
Speaker 1: of your mindset, of course, trust and faith, But faith
Speaker 1: is deare without the works, right, So you have to
Speaker 1: continue to challenge yourself and challenge your mindset and challenge
Speaker 1: the way you look at the world around you, because
Speaker 1: that's what's ultimately going to give you the tools to
Speaker 1: push through whatever you're going through.
Speaker 3: Facts. So, with thop being said, what do you think?
Speaker 2: What do you want your lasting legacy and impact on
Speaker 2: music to be?
Speaker 1: Man? I mean, I just I hope that I continue
Speaker 1: to make music. That they sing on all of the
Speaker 1: talent shows, you know what I'm saying, That they sing
Speaker 1: on the big competition shows that they But it's like
Speaker 1: I want to continue to I want more of them.
Speaker 3: You feel me like like.
Speaker 1: A reason and reason but not like I really feel
Speaker 1: like that and just man just being able to go
Speaker 1: anywhere in the world and hear your music. You know,
Speaker 1: allow the music to travel, to take you on the road,
Speaker 1: allow the music to take you to places that you
Speaker 1: want to go. You know what I'm saying. I look
Speaker 1: at it as currency. Energy is currency, like or allow
Speaker 1: that currency to pay for your trip somewhere like you
Speaker 1: feel me. So I just want to continue to do
Speaker 1: international things and make moves, build relationships, and you know,
Speaker 1: continue to take the creativity to another level. I still
Speaker 1: feel like I'm I haven't even reached my highest potential,
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to music and performing. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people who have yet to
Speaker 1: experience me in the life that I want them to
Speaker 1: experience me and the potential. So it's a lot of
Speaker 1: work to be done. It's a lot of work to
Speaker 1: be done, but I'm excited about it.
Speaker 3: What is success to you?
Speaker 1: Success to me is.
Speaker 2: You have so many things going on, you know, like
Speaker 2: you do just to music. You know, you're a businessman,
Speaker 2: you act, you you know, done model, you dance, you
Speaker 2: do all kinds of you know, so what is what is.
Speaker 3: Success to you?
Speaker 1: Success to me is it has evolved. But success to
Speaker 1: me is being able to number one, be happy within
Speaker 1: the environment in your life and creativity, being happy enjoying it,
Speaker 1: genuinely happy, not on the ground happy, like genuinely like yo,
Speaker 1: I love what I'm doing, like the frequency of what
Speaker 1: you're doing, and get the team you're working with. Success
Speaker 1: to me is when you can look around your environment
Speaker 1: and it's the environment you wanted to create for yourself
Speaker 1: five years ago. When you will look at the people
Speaker 1: around you and you're actually helping them elevate, whether they
Speaker 1: ahead of you or below you. What someone ahead of
Speaker 1: you is helping you do what ch'all should also help
Speaker 1: elevate them even further, and it should help you elevate further.
Speaker 1: Are we all helping each other elevate? I can look
Speaker 1: around and see success. I can look around and see
Speaker 1: the people around me applying pressure to themselves and achieving
Speaker 1: their goals while I'm achieving my goals, like to meet
Speaker 1: that success. It's like, all right, this is success, Like
Speaker 1: we gues, I'm not sitting at the table by myself,
Speaker 1: and I'm also sitting at the table by with people
Speaker 1: who match my energy, match my outlook. We don't think
Speaker 1: all the same things, but we match each other's purpose
Speaker 1: in what we're doing. That's success to me. Success is
Speaker 1: also helping other people with successes. Me going back to Baltimore,
Speaker 1: being able to build a facility that's a mental health facility,
Speaker 1: but it's also helping people understand business and understand the
Speaker 1: other world. You know, So that like with fifteen hundred
Speaker 1: Academy is doing here, they're doing some amazing things here
Speaker 1: is incredible, very inspirational. Shout out to the homies over there.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's success. Success is when all of
Speaker 1: your virtues are like I say the word virtual a
Speaker 1: lot because it's one of my favorite words. But they're
Speaker 1: lining up, you know, from your philanthropic philanthropics, philanthropic side,
Speaker 1: business side, investments. Like that's success.
Speaker 2: But you're happy though, You're happy happy, buildac all right.
Speaker 3: Top three albums of all time.
Speaker 1: Wow, Thriller, Okay, Mmm, Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key
Speaker 1: of Life. Wow. This is a tough one. Third one
Speaker 1: is a tough one. I might have to say, No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Usher Confessions. Just as far as R
Speaker 1: and B goes, I feel like from when I was
Speaker 1: coming up and like, you know, as a as a
Speaker 1: as a teenager wanting to do like Usher, was that
Speaker 1: guy like really like holding it down and like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is how you can be a Brown King in
Speaker 1: his game. That's killing it across all platforms. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure you could.
Speaker 3: Change one thing career wise. What would it be.
Speaker 1: The ability earlier on to think like a businessman and
Speaker 1: an artist to be an executive mindset but also have
Speaker 1: a creative mindset. It's very hard to do, and I'm
Speaker 1: getting there. I'm perfecting it.
Speaker 3: How many years then?
Speaker 1: Right? Shit? I mean I feel like I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't never feel like I'm reaching one hundred percent because
Speaker 1: it's always right. But I feel like I'm like I started.
Speaker 1: I came in a game at twenty percent maybe, but
Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm like seventy five percent of
Speaker 1: that mindset of being an exact but also being an
Speaker 1: artist like that. If I could have changed that earlier,
Speaker 1: that's something I wish I could have changed his artists,
Speaker 1: because it's like it's a different it's a different mindset
Speaker 1: boss mindset.
Speaker 2: I see that you have an only fans account. I
Speaker 2: do is it only because you like.
Speaker 1: I have an only fans account.
Speaker 3: Looking at people or like, what are you doing on
Speaker 3: your own?
Speaker 1: I have an only fans account. I think it's a true.
Speaker 1: I think it's a hack. Somebody hacked my only y'all
Speaker 1: got to do better. Y'all got to do better with
Speaker 1: your screening. You know how many Marios is on Instagram,
Speaker 1: But there's so many people that somebody hack. Is a check,
Speaker 1: is a blue. I don't know how it is only
Speaker 1: fans work. It's yours while you are you on that
Speaker 1: you down? You got this ripscribed? You are Wow. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I believe the fifth.
Speaker 3: So what's your opinion on only fans?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's just people that doing things
Speaker 1: that they can't do on ig. We're getting paid for it.
Speaker 3: So you think it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know good bad? Who knows that it's it's
Speaker 1: Instagram good or bad? I mean, I think it's relative,
Speaker 1: and I think it's about you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like life is it isn't about I don't believe in
Speaker 1: good or bad. You know, I have this conversation with
Speaker 1: my girl. I'm like, I don't believe in good and evil,
Speaker 1: good or bad? This so that I believe in balance
Speaker 1: and contrast, you know what I'm saying. And I believe
Speaker 1: in that because what I seen in the game in
Speaker 1: my life so ain't the good or bad. It's how
Speaker 1: you use it. It's like, are you our only fans and
Speaker 1: you let and it completely is your whole identity based
Speaker 1: upon only fans? Or are you using it as a
Speaker 1: form of work because you was posting similar shit on
Speaker 1: ig but you want to getting paid? Who knows. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm a little different, but in the same respect though,
Speaker 2: And that's why I mean, it's like for me, it's
Speaker 2: the content creator.
Speaker 1: I should be actually you because you was like doing
Speaker 1: it in a real way in the porn industry, right,
Speaker 1: But these girls, know what I'm saying, these girls are
Speaker 1: doing less than what you were doing and making quicker money,
Speaker 1: right or wrong?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's not long term money, Okay.
Speaker 1: See, I don't know. That's why I'm saying. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the business side of me, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've been doing it for a long time
Speaker 2: and being in the game, I had only fans before
Speaker 2: only fans was like cool to everybody else, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 3: In the beginning, I will say I.
Speaker 2: Was like, huh, like a little like like salty, But
Speaker 2: then I was like, there's a lane for everybody.
Speaker 3: It doesn't hurt me either.
Speaker 2: Way, Like it is what it is because it's just
Speaker 2: another way for them to like do what they're doing
Speaker 2: on Instagram. And why not if you're going to be
Speaker 2: a boss about it, do what you want to. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's about trinity.
Speaker 1: I haven't honestly, I gotta go, like, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: It's probably so many girls on only fans that I've
Speaker 1: seen on Instagram. I don't even know they're only Fans's crazy.
Speaker 3: Deal breakers in a relationship.
Speaker 1: It's that category of like you just want me to
Speaker 1: go off the throom?
Speaker 2: Do you have any for you? Like in a relationship
Speaker 2: for you, is there a deal breaker?
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I don't even thinking about deal breakers. I'll
Speaker 1: just be going with just rolling dice and I just
Speaker 1: go if I love you, I love you. We're gonna
Speaker 1: figure it out as we go.
Speaker 3: So have somebody cheating on you?
Speaker 1: That's what I need help, Like that thing.
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because like if you cheat on me,
Speaker 1: I'm a competitive nigga. Are you going I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm not saying it. It's toxic, right, that's
Speaker 1: really toxic. That's bad. I don't know. I don't think
Speaker 1: I would leave.
Speaker 2: You should be if you were with your girl, then
Speaker 2: you should be doing all the things if you're competitive,
Speaker 2: so that another person wouldn't come inside and repose.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, it's only gonna make me
Speaker 1: level up more like, I don't get it, like if
Speaker 1: you cheat on me, Like, it's only gonna make me
Speaker 1: focus on my work more.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: That's not a deal break because you're still gonna be
Speaker 2: in the relationship.
Speaker 1: Possibly. It's just like I'm not gonna force myself and
Speaker 1: not to love somebody, Like you know what I'm saying. Shop,
Speaker 1: don't you think you.
Speaker 3: Can love somebody and not be with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. It's a process.
Speaker 3: Those different types.
Speaker 1: Y's different types of I'm just saying it's a process.
Speaker 1: It's easier said than done. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've never had a girl come to me and be like,
Speaker 1: cheated on you. I never caught a girl cheat, So
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that's like. But then my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, probably I don't know if I'm elad,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta see it, gotta happen, God forbid.
Speaker 3: But do you have sex to your own music?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: No, because I'm thinking about like the times that it
Speaker 1: just came on and the times that I put it
Speaker 1: on purposely. Do you have Yeah? I think I would. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have had sex on my own music before. So
Speaker 1: do you have some does it just come on the playlist?
Speaker 3: And what's on your sex playlist? Apparently you have a song.
Speaker 1: Like I go from like the the nineties all the
Speaker 1: way up to now.
Speaker 2: Okay, tell us your the first song that starts on
Speaker 2: on your sex playlist and you know it's about to
Speaker 2: go down.
Speaker 3: When your girl hears that song, she knows.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, like some people going to hate this,
Speaker 1: but the homie r Kelly body calling okay that that
Speaker 1: record is crazy.
Speaker 3: What's your closer?
Speaker 1: Closer? Me singing in her ear? Me sing like just
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I might say something.
Speaker 2: Sing like that you're coming. Do you say like like
Speaker 2: sing that to her?
Speaker 1: It depends on the girl. Some girls you like, you know,
Speaker 1: some girls are super nasty and just you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, and then I sing my favorite girl,
Speaker 1: I sing her songs like I know the song she likes.
Speaker 1: So I've done that before. But it's not no regular
Speaker 1: ship like it's just happens from time.
Speaker 3: So can anybody beat MJ and verses Michael Jackson?
Speaker 1: Mm hm? Who would? First of all? Who would even
Speaker 1: put in the verses with Mike? That's where you got
Speaker 1: to start at. You're that good Mike, And it would
Speaker 1: probably have to be somebody like before him or something like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I need help. What you think?
Speaker 1: Who you think could be Mike in the verses? Right?
Speaker 1: It's hard, It's it's a tough one.
Speaker 3: Would you do it versus?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 3: Do you have anybody that you want to do?
Speaker 1: Any like? You just gotta put them on the table.
Speaker 1: Anybody I would just Yeah, it's just be fun like whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, you probably have to pick somebody in my genre,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Who would you know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We're good? You you say, who do you? Who do
Speaker 1: you feel like?
Speaker 3: For you? I don't know, I don't know. That's a
Speaker 3: that's a tough one.
Speaker 1: That's a tough one.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that one that's not I'm not
Speaker 2: I don't know, I know, I'm not sure. I felt
Speaker 2: like you would give me a better consensus of like
Speaker 2: what who?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean probably.
Speaker 3: Something that you'd be lining up or if you.
Speaker 1: Want running okay, open running okay?
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll stop running one day, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 2: one day, I don't know. Do we have time to
Speaker 2: play truth with Texas?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: All right, I need a little moment. I need a
Speaker 2: shout out Tequila before I start this or.
Speaker 1: Can you still? No, it's not it's empty, that's ice
Speaker 1: is probably ice. I want that ship and can you
Speaker 1: give me just bring that right? Yeah? Who would you
Speaker 1: do a versus with me?
Speaker 3: If I did a verse? Oh?
Speaker 1: Is that even a sum in your world? I?
Speaker 3: Duh h? Would it be like Jadea? No, not Jada.
Speaker 3: Either'd be well because Jada is younger than me too.
Speaker 3: But what's the other one? Brianna love yo, Go go go?
Speaker 3: You never watched porn Andy Donna? She's older than me.
Speaker 3: Brianna loves older than me, like she's who I had
Speaker 3: my first girl girl experienced with, Like I she ate
Speaker 3: my pussy, I ate her pussy was very think it
Speaker 3: was magical. It was magical.
Speaker 1: It was magical.
Speaker 2: It was It was the first time because when I
Speaker 2: was in the I earned college, every girl like you
Speaker 2: made out when you were drunk, but they'd always deny it,
Speaker 2: and then like so I never.
Speaker 3: Did anything that was curious.
Speaker 2: So the first time I did was on a porn set.
Speaker 2: Because we were always we'd always work next to each other.
Speaker 2: We'd fucked the same person, but we never worked together.
Speaker 2: And then they're like, hey, do you want to do
Speaker 2: girl girl?
Speaker 3: I'm like, what's that?
Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, and she was really into girls. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was great, It's fun time.
Speaker 1: Were you into girls before that?
Speaker 2: I was curious, like I said, like with the kissing
Speaker 2: it with my like like, uh, roommates and notomates also
Speaker 2: roommates in college, but like I said, they didn't They
Speaker 2: just kissed, but they would be like, oh, that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's pictures.
Speaker 1: How do you like break it to your parents that
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, do.
Speaker 2: You want to like act like I had a phone
Speaker 2: call with you, like if I if you or my dad?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, like world.
Speaker 1: Player, Hello Alexis.
Speaker 3: Why does he sound like an old white man? My
Speaker 3: dad is not.
Speaker 1: He's I don't know how am I supposed to know?
Speaker 1: Your dad?
Speaker 3: That Puerto Rican man? Okay, what are your Puerto Rican? Yes,
Speaker 3: Puerto Rican, German, Norwegian. Yeah, I'm a nice mix of
Speaker 3: every little thing.
Speaker 1: Just keep yourself.
Speaker 3: So I called my dad and I told him. I
Speaker 3: was like, I have to tell you something.
Speaker 2: And he's like what, And I'm like, I did a
Speaker 2: porn and he's like, what do you mean? And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I did a porn and he was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, did you want to I'm like yeah,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I was like, I I think
Speaker 2: I told him. I was like, I have a sex
Speaker 2: triend like a man. I was like, it's zeerful because you.
Speaker 3: Know, Puerto Rican men are really horny men.
Speaker 2: This happened and he started laughing, and so then I
Speaker 2: ruined porn for my daddy never watched porn after that.
Speaker 1: Because you are a blessing to him. You probably changed
Speaker 1: like psychology.
Speaker 2: He's going to be a guest on the on the
Speaker 2: podcast one day all about it. But yeah, no, like
Speaker 2: he just because I like we like my stepmom has
Speaker 2: a big butt, and obviously he liked big booties and
Speaker 2: so he didn't want to ever like cross my path
Speaker 2: or any fucking raise, so he just stopped watching. Wow,
Speaker 2: it was just like I then, it wasn't like he
Speaker 2: was fucking like chronic porn watcher, Like you're making it
Speaker 2: seem like way worse, Mario, come down, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just saying you said it.
Speaker 2: Watching I compromise with him was like I never was
Speaker 2: gonna go on Howard's Durn Show because I used to,
Speaker 2: like he used to like that show back in the day.
Speaker 2: So because he was like if he ever did that
Speaker 2: or like talk to you that way, He's like, I'd
Speaker 2: be really upset and I can never watch him.
Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: So I how do you like all right, So have
Speaker 1: you ever been uncomfortable in the scene before, Like you
Speaker 1: ever been in a room and like being uncomfortable with
Speaker 1: someone but you still had to.
Speaker 2: I mean in the beginning in my career just because
Speaker 2: it was just like new But no, nothing that I like,
Speaker 2: I didn't do, nothing happened to me on set.
Speaker 3: There's no deep dark secret.
Speaker 1: Of that to me because like some girls like that
Speaker 1: like being you know what I'm saying in that space, Like.
Speaker 2: No, I mean for me, I'm pretty much like I'm
Speaker 2: an alpha. I like being dominated in the bedroom, but
Speaker 2: I liked it. What I loved about porn was like,
Speaker 2: you know, women have a lot to say of what
Speaker 2: we want to do. We have a yuest list, we
Speaker 2: have a no list, we talk about with the performer beforehand,
Speaker 2: what we want to do, what we don't like to do.
Speaker 2: And so it kind of really, for me at least,
Speaker 2: eliminated the room for air. But we don't know about
Speaker 2: it exactly, like eliminated room for air for me. Sorry,
Speaker 2: but that I didn't really have any of those encounters.
Speaker 3: Was every time great?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, not the best chemistry sometimes whatever, But
Speaker 2: it's work, you know, Like I say it all the time.
Speaker 3: It's like the.
Speaker 1: Seconds uncomfortable, like you still got to perform.
Speaker 3: No, it's like, damn, that's my job. I like to
Speaker 3: fuck and maybe like whatever, But like I.
Speaker 1: Was, can you date and be a porn star?
Speaker 3: I married a porn star? I was married.
Speaker 1: But do you feel like you had to marry a
Speaker 1: porn start, Like, you know, do you think it regularly.
Speaker 3: Do with the time. I think that had a lot
Speaker 3: to do with it.
Speaker 2: Not that I didn't love my ex husband and wanted
Speaker 2: to be more than what it was. But at that
Speaker 2: time I probably think yes because this controversy that lies
Speaker 2: around what people think about me this or whatever, when
Speaker 2: they really do this.
Speaker 1: That's crazy because I actually used to watch porns so much,
Speaker 1: and then when I got a relationship, I started watching it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying as much just from it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, But it's like the stuff
Speaker 1: I used to watch. I'm go into all details, but
Speaker 1: I'm just like, can.
Speaker 3: You tell us your porn your porn hub search?
Speaker 1: I can't, it's been so long, But if you.
Speaker 3: Have to know what you search, what you like, what's
Speaker 3: your fetish?
Speaker 1: Like I I'm gonna tell you I'm a fetish, but
Speaker 1: I would say that like like I man, I used
Speaker 1: to watch I like girls on girls, Like I like
Speaker 1: watching girls. You know what I'm saying, dude, But like
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you the rest stuff.
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna pray. All right, We're gonna play
Speaker 2: truth with Texas. Truth with Texas is We've got four
Speaker 2: cards here. Each all of them are aces. Each suit
Speaker 2: is a different type of question. We're gonna go through
Speaker 2: each one of them and we're to ask you a
Speaker 2: little bit more crazier questions we've been asking you.
Speaker 3: I gave you the hard ones. You know, now you
Speaker 3: don't have to think so much. Now it's just fun,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 2: So first card, Ace of Hearts, A romantic question. Would
Speaker 2: you consider yourself a romantic sometimes? What's the most romantic
Speaker 2: thing you've ever done.
Speaker 3: For a partner?
Speaker 1: The most romantic thing I've ever done? So I brought
Speaker 1: her it was like I guess you could say, it
Speaker 1: was like a promise ring type of thing. And we
Speaker 1: swam like we did a little schooler diamond situation, and
Speaker 1: I swam to where I buried it at, like under
Speaker 1: the water. And I'm like, I like, I'm a wild
Speaker 1: card when it comes to shit like that, Like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be if you tell me something you're scared to do,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like try to convince you to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you in a situation where you got
Speaker 1: to do it. So I like to help you, know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, push pristal limit. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that was the most romantic and scary probably for her.
Speaker 3: Have you ever sent a dick pic to your partner?
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Plenty of times, but only ones I trusted.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm back. I dropped all the cards.
Speaker 2: All right, you got to start over just you know.
Speaker 1: So it depends yeah, like like on a person, like yeah,
Speaker 1: if I can trust, like if I know morally I
Speaker 1: can trust this person. Like if some ship went down
Speaker 1: and gotta worry.
Speaker 3: About lingerie or naked?
Speaker 1: Both? I like both, Like I like to be surprised, Like,
Speaker 1: but do you.
Speaker 2: Like the whole, like for her to dress up and
Speaker 2: then the whole like reveal, or do you want her
Speaker 2: to like just show up naked on the bed?
Speaker 1: Sometimes depends what I'm saying. Both, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If we're on vacation somewhere lingerie, I like to take
Speaker 1: it off. I like to see it on, walk around
Speaker 1: with it on, like then.
Speaker 3: I lights on or lights off? Damn you like the
Speaker 3: mood lighting?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Favorite place to.
Speaker 1: Be unless we just sucking in the daytime. Then it's
Speaker 1: like like so on, it's on. We're both free right here,
Speaker 1: God's children.
Speaker 3: Favorite place to be kissed, my balls, fair and up.
Speaker 3: Favorite position.
Speaker 1: I don't have a favorite position, Okay, it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: that's whatever one is going to get you going space.
Speaker 1: This is an ace of ace of which is.
Speaker 3: A kinky question.
Speaker 2: Favorite time of day to have sex morning, afternoon or nighttime?
Speaker 1: It depends on where we're at, Like if we are
Speaker 1: on an island, that could be either one.
Speaker 3: You want to go to the island.
Speaker 2: You need a vacation, you need to go and have
Speaker 2: some islands.
Speaker 1: It's about to be crazy this summer. But yeah, like
Speaker 1: I would say, like right before sunset, okay, if we
Speaker 1: happen to be you.
Speaker 3: Know, the same bondage, yes or no?
Speaker 1: Do you have a full bond it for me and
Speaker 1: I fo I can't do have like some.
Speaker 3: Kind of like webs and chain a dungeon in your house.
Speaker 3: A dungeon, not a dungeon.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta give a s strawer. I got
Speaker 1: a sex closet, sex closet.
Speaker 3: What's in that closet.
Speaker 1: It's it's different size of it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like three different little categories of levels.
Speaker 1: It's three different levels. You got the four bonders level,
Speaker 1: then you got the level that's just like with the toys,
Speaker 1: and because everybody don't like toys, then you got you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the other side.
Speaker 3: But is on the other sorry said the other side.
Speaker 1: The other side. I can't say what the other side is.
Speaker 1: The other side is a specific it's a specific type
Speaker 1: of creation. I created it, okay, all right? Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Four play or sex if you could only.
Speaker 1: Have one for the rest of my life or crazy
Speaker 1: life sex.
Speaker 3: Okay, what about just for the day, just.
Speaker 1: For the day, four play, four play? I take four
Speaker 1: place for the day. But you said for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that was a lot.
Speaker 1: That was a lot because during sex you could also
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you could kiss, you.
Speaker 3: Could never what you crazy hypothetical? Come on, you know
Speaker 3: it's not like real life. It's never gonna really happen.
Speaker 3: Four if I had it for the rest of my life,
Speaker 3: palls and so I was.
Speaker 1: I was just saying some ship, but like four plague
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. Yeah, I do that
Speaker 1: because you're saying I can't kids doing Sex's out most of.
Speaker 3: Our times you've had sex in one day?
Speaker 1: Uh, I would say four four times?
Speaker 3: Yeah, same person. Yeah I have to do the button again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same person.
Speaker 2: That sounded very politically correct. What type of porn turns
Speaker 2: you on? Can we tell you what tell us what
Speaker 2: that one was?
Speaker 1: What type of what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Type of porn like the porn you know you wouldn't
Speaker 3: tell us earlier.
Speaker 1: Let's see, yo, I like when girls make the toys
Speaker 1: and do crazy ship to themselves, like when they take
Speaker 1: crazy stuff and put.
Speaker 3: It down, he said, girl girl. But then you said
Speaker 3: another one in there, like I can't tell you. This
Speaker 3: is your time for you to tell us.
Speaker 1: Why are you pass tripping right now? I'm not that's
Speaker 1: state present.
Speaker 3: No, that's because it's not here on the truth with taxes.
Speaker 1: But you just asked me a question I gave you aswer.
Speaker 1: You listen to what I said. What I say, I
Speaker 1: don't know anymore? Ask your questions again?
Speaker 3: What type of porn turns you on?
Speaker 1: I was saying that I like when the girls take
Speaker 1: the crazy like I don't know what all types of
Speaker 1: color objects and dose or like like.
Speaker 2: Food like things that look like like cucumber and planning
Speaker 2: those types of things.
Speaker 1: And she liked doing crazy.
Speaker 2: But that's why why I was saying the previous question.
Speaker 2: You said you liked girl girl porn, But isn't that
Speaker 2: kind of this around the same lines, and then no, it's.
Speaker 1: Not because she's just there by herself.
Speaker 3: Oh it's so low. Yeah, so you like food objects?
Speaker 3: Have you ever used that in your personal life? Food?
Speaker 3: What is the food?
Speaker 1: Different foods?
Speaker 3: It is your favorite, my favorite?
Speaker 1: I don't have a favorite.
Speaker 3: Have you been grapefruit?
Speaker 1: Is? I like? I like grapefruit now they like, you know,
Speaker 1: like the grape it just looked like you hurt.
Speaker 3: But why the grapefruit is soft and liquid.
Speaker 1: Like like if it get inside like burn grapefruit.
Speaker 3: You have a problem. It might burn, but I shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I never did it before.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I don't think it's just nuts. I've
Speaker 3: never done it before. People just talked about it. I'm
Speaker 3: not a big food grapefruit. I like to eat food.
Speaker 3: I'm not really into sexual food play.
Speaker 1: I like chocolate. I like shaked off for me, like syruppy,
Speaker 1: like grapefruits. Like I don't know, but you know it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm actually allergic to grapefruit. I just thought about it.
Speaker 1: I ate grape fruit years ago. Allergic, So I'm happy
Speaker 1: I never did it. Do it? That's crazy right now? Yeah?
Speaker 3: See it's fun.
Speaker 2: Spicy, which a little spicy all right, longest you've ever
Speaker 2: had gone with out sucks a year and a half.
Speaker 2: How many I don't think you're How many partners have
Speaker 2: you had in my life?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can't even think about it. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't I don't know.
Speaker 3: I asked the question earlier on my first episode.
Speaker 1: I really don't know.
Speaker 3: How many times?
Speaker 2: Not how many people? How many times do you think
Speaker 2: you've had sex in your lifetime?
Speaker 1: Including wet dreams? No, like physical because sometimes that feels
Speaker 1: really Oh yeah, I know, I don't know, oh, in
Speaker 1: my life, like in a lifetime, we are How do
Speaker 1: you calculate that? Probably?
Speaker 3: Like I mean, if you fuck a lot, if you don't,
Speaker 3: you know, it's a lot, hold.
Speaker 1: On, probably like it at least.
Speaker 3: Maybe five hundred five hundred. Yeah, was five hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: Times, five hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: Times, not people time, for surely five hundred tis that's
Speaker 3: how a lot of fucking Mario.
Speaker 1: It's not I gotta get my fucking up.
Speaker 3: And your girlfriend have worked to do on your vacation, not.
Speaker 1: Like a thousand or more for sure.
Speaker 3: Five hundred thousand times? Is that a problem?
Speaker 1: I lost a lot those two years of celibacy.
Speaker 3: I lost a lot, like why you went celibate?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was actually I was just going
Speaker 1: on some like a cleanse at the time I was
Speaker 1: dating I was no, yeah, and I was dating a
Speaker 1: girl with celibrate at the time, So.
Speaker 2: I was like, you being celibate, did you find something
Speaker 2: that you needed to find, like clarity or whatever through
Speaker 2: your celibacy.
Speaker 1: It was just more connection with myself and more mental stability,
Speaker 1: just like you'd be surprised, like most men can't go
Speaker 1: a month without having sex, like it's a big it's
Speaker 1: just a power trip. Then it's like more of just
Speaker 1: like a you know, a sacred thing. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, own the name of your power. This ain't
Speaker 1: no like ship. Me just trying to sound spiritual like
Speaker 1: it's real ship, Like it really is something that changed,
Speaker 1: just it affects your mind and bodies, bio spiritual things
Speaker 1: that happens in your body when you refrain from busting
Speaker 1: in that constantly have more energy, way.
Speaker 3: More energy, like any of that I feel.
Speaker 1: I mean you you already it's over for you. You've
Speaker 1: it's over, You've inspired.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: You said you admitted it. You just admitted it.
Speaker 2: Before I did, I could still stop, what does it mean?
Speaker 2: It's I would never want to, but I'm saying I could.
Speaker 1: You could.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the longest I've ever gone was.
Speaker 1: You seem like a very like like you will like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you know how to control
Speaker 1: your ship like whatever.
Speaker 3: For me, I can masturbate myself, so I don't.
Speaker 1: Need to like that's not that's not celibacy though, So
Speaker 1: I mean yes, but.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying as far as just like going as
Speaker 2: far as like fucking like that. So I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: thinking for you, you have like a porn stuff. For me,
Speaker 2: like so like I'm not like that crazy. If I
Speaker 2: had to do that, the longest all the way, I
Speaker 2: would probably say would be six months without like masturbating
Speaker 2: anything at all sexual contact eight But I could do
Speaker 2: it for me. It was not a reason too or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was just because I wasn't in a place that
Speaker 2: I was going af through other things yea, So it
Speaker 2: wasn't like I didn't have a desire to.
Speaker 1: Know what it is for me. I'm really obviously I'm
Speaker 1: really a freak. So it's like I have to be
Speaker 1: with a person that I love so I can explore
Speaker 1: as much as I want to explore. Obviously, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying everything show you feel me, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, when you're that person, you can't just
Speaker 1: be out here doing it with everybody and you can't
Speaker 1: do it. It's like you like you really want to
Speaker 1: unless you're with your person, really a person.
Speaker 3: But you've experimented before in the past. I mean you've
Speaker 3: had your.
Speaker 1: Time, definitely, but it was like it's a limit to it.
Speaker 1: It's like certain things I'm never not I'm having protected sex.
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that's definitely having protected sex every I
Speaker 1: if I'm single, it's no question. And I know some
Speaker 1: girl say it, they don't like it. They're like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm good, you got it, don't matter matter.
Speaker 2: Last card is Ace of Spades, which is a naughty question.
Speaker 2: Have you ever watched your partner masterman and get off
Speaker 2: without you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Does that turn you on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Of course? Absolutely, hearty talk, yes or no, all
Speaker 1: of the dirty talk. And it's just like it doesn't
Speaker 1: even matter what it is. It's just like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You can say ship now that you can't get to
Speaker 1: say when we're finished in an hour or two whatever.
Speaker 3: Do you have any fetishes and I know you do
Speaker 3: because you said you We're gonna tell me, and I'm upset.
Speaker 3: You know, what do you like like feet? Do you
Speaker 3: like you?
Speaker 1: I love feet?
Speaker 3: You have a like being smothered? Do you have an
Speaker 3: ass fetish? Do you have like? What is your fetish?
Speaker 3: Do you have?
Speaker 1: Like ass? Feet and nipples? And like I love a girl,
Speaker 1: like if a girl got a nice neck, Like it's
Speaker 1: like the symmetry is right, the shape of it, like
Speaker 1: the sexy is me, Like I'm devouring your neck.
Speaker 3: The whole time we haven't said, like I just look,
Speaker 3: you're leaving hickeys and all.
Speaker 1: I know how to do it without You're gonna think that,
Speaker 1: you're gonna think you're next fucked up. But then you
Speaker 1: look in the mirror like it's about pressure.
Speaker 3: You're a ninja.
Speaker 1: Ninja