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<v Speaker 1>H m hmmm, dire wave the scientific method.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot justify the scientific method. All right? Welcome John,

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<v Speaker 2>can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome everybody. This is Jay's analysis and I have author

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<v Speaker 2>with me tonight. We are joined by John Claizek. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that right? John?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Man? You broke up for a second. I got

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<v Speaker 3>a brand new, brand new computer with a bunch more

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<v Speaker 3>gigs in the old one, and I didn't hear you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. You introduced me.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you hear me now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I can hear you now, So you know it's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I just started. So John Klaizak joins me. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>how you pronounce it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. And he is a young pup like me. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was going to be an old, crusty dude,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is a young guy like me. And he

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<v Speaker 2>is going to talk about his book. And he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>the book school World Order the Technocraticalization of Corporatized education.

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<v Speaker 2>School World or the Technocraticalization of corporatize Education it almost rhymes.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's going to talk about the occult academic history

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<v Speaker 2>intertwined together, how this leads to transhumanism, the control of

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<v Speaker 2>everybody through education, and you get into some really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>philosophical theological concepts here at natural law, ten commandments, the logos.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you want to start with? By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I have the link to your Amazon pages, there is

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<v Speaker 2>there a different pages rather me put in there.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go to my website and then that'll link

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<v Speaker 3>to Trying Day to get the book. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Amazon's fine with me. I mean, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that we make more.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually Trying Day would be better, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, yeah, you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, let me I'm sorry, let me find that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll add that. What before we get into the book,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you tell us about how you came to

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<v Speaker 2>write this book?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So how I came to write this book was basically,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a little issue in Illinois where the governor

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<v Speaker 3>was stalling on the budget UH several years ago, and

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<v Speaker 3>basically I saw it as a ployee to privatize the

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<v Speaker 3>education system. And this particular governor had money in privatized schooling,

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<v Speaker 3>so through charge schools, vouchers and things like that, he

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<v Speaker 3>actually has a charter school that he owns. And I

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<v Speaker 3>also saw a bunch of buzzwords pop up. In addition

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<v Speaker 3>to the privatization stuff, so that would be like the workforce, training,

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<v Speaker 3>school to work, cradle to career or different terms they use,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the terminology the buzzwords they use for public

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<v Speaker 3>private partnership, so P twenty councils P sixteen council, which

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<v Speaker 3>is another name for merging the private and the public,

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<v Speaker 3>basically the corporate and the government. And it was basically

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<v Speaker 3>all the stuff that Charlotte Israbet talked about in delivered

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<v Speaker 3>Guming Down of America, and then she did an addendum

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<v Speaker 3>to it where she got into the charter schooling mar

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<v Speaker 3>So basically, I saw all that stuff kind of happening

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<v Speaker 3>at once, and I'm a teacher, didn't didn't ever really

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<v Speaker 3>plan to write about education because you know it, didn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to poo poo where I work, try to keep

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<v Speaker 3>a buffer there. But since since one of the departments

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<v Speaker 3>where I work got shut down, I said, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'll just voice my opinion here. Charlotte saw

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<v Speaker 3>the art basically said you're right on, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>just I just kept building on it and it became

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<v Speaker 3>a book basically awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got the better link in there to trying

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<v Speaker 2>today directly, So if youbody's interested to get the book there.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I have stream labs that set up so

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<v Speaker 2>you see the link. Therefore, stream labs if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>want to send a super chat comment. But let's so,

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<v Speaker 2>you dove into philosophy. You went down the route of

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<v Speaker 2>the pheelosoph and you talk about the trivium. You talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the philosophy of education. Right, so everything has a

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<v Speaker 2>philosophy behind it. There's a philosophy of art, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>philosophy of mechanics, there's a philosophy of everything. And you

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<v Speaker 2>got into the philosophy of education and the presuppositions of education.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us about the trivium and the logic behind education.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so maybe maybe I'll tell you how I how

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<v Speaker 3>I even got to that, because you're probably way more

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<v Speaker 3>schooled officially in philosophy. I took a few undergrad courses. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know my background is in rhetoric in literary studies,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't have the same philosophical background. Actually delved

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<v Speaker 3>into a lot of it when I got to the

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<v Speaker 3>conclusion part, and that was partially thanks to Chris. I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna end it with just the problems laid out

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<v Speaker 3>and Chris is like, this is you know, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to give some solutions here, man, this is scary stuff, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what should we do to solve this? And

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<v Speaker 3>so basically what I it was it was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>stunt me. I hadn't thought about that. But but what

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<v Speaker 3>I basically sought the at the crux of everything was

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<v Speaker 3>that it's the algorithm. They want the algorithm to be God. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you could use that metaphorically or literally, uh, but basically

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<v Speaker 3>that means if you want the algorithm to God to

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<v Speaker 3>be God, you want empiricism to be God. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 3>there's two problems with that. One is that, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>measurements are only as good as is the categories or

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<v Speaker 3>the presuppositional categories that you start with, okay, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the measurement can only go so far, so you can't

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<v Speaker 3>measure every single variable okay. So at that point you

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<v Speaker 3>have to take what your reguard called the leap of

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<v Speaker 3>faith okay, into hopefully something that is what called the

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<v Speaker 3>categorical imperative, right, something a priori that's there before you

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<v Speaker 3>measure stuff. So this is where I started looking into metaphysics.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing is that you know, uh, some people

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<v Speaker 3>will tell you that morality can be empirical, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see how you can make that argument. Morality has

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<v Speaker 3>to be a priori right, so they have values are presuppositional.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't, you know, Jay, I don't have to measure

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<v Speaker 3>you to know that, you know, I should treat you

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<v Speaker 3>with the same deference to the Bill of Rights as

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<v Speaker 3>another human being. So you know, it was at that

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<v Speaker 3>point that I that I started digging into the to

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<v Speaker 3>the metaphysics.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're a long ruler if you're gonna measure me, dog.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm in a silly mood tonight. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't have fun man.

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<v Speaker 2>Make money though here the audience here doesn't send any

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<v Speaker 2>money unless you're act silly, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, you'll have to. And I'm long in the tooth,

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<v Speaker 3>so if you can jump in with some jokes occasionally,

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<v Speaker 3>will balance it all out here. Yeah. So the funny

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<v Speaker 3>thing was that when I, you know, when I looked

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<v Speaker 3>into cont I dug up metaphysics morals off my shelf,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what was funny was underneath it was

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<v Speaker 3>was at least Strobels case for christ C. S. Lewis

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<v Speaker 3>Mere Christianity and something by Saint Benedictine. I just thought

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<v Speaker 3>that was interesting at the time, so I didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>time to read all of it. So I started looking

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<v Speaker 3>through this guy, Bruce Gore's lectures. He's a Presbyterian guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He teaches high school. He's a lawyer and a psychologist,

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<v Speaker 3>but he teaches high school kids using the classical method.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's got a lecture series. If anyone wants to

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<v Speaker 3>see it, it's uh, just go Bruce Gore on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>History of Philosophy and Christianity together. And that was when

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<v Speaker 3>I stumbled on this idea of the logos, that it's

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<v Speaker 3>you know that that that you know the first John right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I always was like, in the beginning was

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<v Speaker 3>the word, and it's like, so in the beginning was

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<v Speaker 3>the book or the Bible, but you know, we know

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<v Speaker 3>that that's right. We know that the tank commandments in

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible, the Torah things came later. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>like that always confused me. But then when I realized

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<v Speaker 3>that the Greek interpretation had to do with this concept

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<v Speaker 3>of the logos, which is this idea that there was

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<v Speaker 3>a metaphysical principle that is the order to the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>I also realized that basically Christianity had you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't just about faith and the prophecies and the law.

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<v Speaker 3>It also won philosophical arguments, and it basically synthesized Greek

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<v Speaker 3>philosophy with revelation and the law. And that's yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>so that's what basically that's when you started popping up

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<v Speaker 3>on my feed and I started looking at more of

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<v Speaker 3>your stuff. But you know, for the sake of the book,

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to defend public education. You might have critiques

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<v Speaker 3>of this, uh, but so I tried to as best

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<v Speaker 3>as I could, steer everything back in the direction of

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<v Speaker 3>at least trying to have have an agreement that we

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<v Speaker 3>have to have some a priori metaphysics before we start

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<v Speaker 3>using any algorithms, whether it be for learning or elsewise.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that was that was where what led me

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<v Speaker 3>to the trivial method as the means to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's interesting. I mean I don't think that, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's anything inherently magically better about something being privatized or

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<v Speaker 2>something being public, because you can have corruption and either

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<v Speaker 2>either sphere. So I don't I don't necessarily think one

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<v Speaker 2>or the other is automatically, you know, prima facia going

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<v Speaker 2>to be better than the other the other, but definitely

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<v Speaker 2>when something is completely controlled by either one, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes kind of a an indoctrination system. So we

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<v Speaker 2>know that US education has gone down the route of

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<v Speaker 2>becoming and doctrination system. And you're throwing an interesting angle

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<v Speaker 2>on this and saying that it's not just like a

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<v Speaker 2>government to quote unquote problem that education is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be privatized in terms of the high school or also

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<v Speaker 2>grade school or everything, or what are you saying.

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<v Speaker 3>From start to finish for what un calls lifelong learning.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if you looked at it's a blend of

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<v Speaker 3>what I would call communitarian philosophy with basically techno fascism, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so that corporate arm with sort of this collectivist or

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<v Speaker 3>communist philosophy underneath it. So if you've looked at those

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<v Speaker 3>documents for the World Economic Forum just did the Great Reset,

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the things they tweeted was they're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about corporate governance is going to help out, But in

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<v Speaker 3>the same time they're talking about equity and they're using

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<v Speaker 3>all this communitarian language. So you have the merger of

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<v Speaker 3>the communitarian philosophical language with basically using big corporations to

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<v Speaker 3>facilitate it. As far as education goes, what we you

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<v Speaker 3>have the actual privatization of the school itself through charter schools. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but by the way, it's not that's let's say corporatization,

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<v Speaker 3>because you could have a private school, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>we're like a parochial school, and you could have a

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<v Speaker 3>church school. It's much different than a charter school. Charter

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<v Speaker 3>school is a private corporation that also takes public dollars, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's subsidized by the government, and there's this incestuous

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<v Speaker 3>relationship and so it so corporatized it is probably a

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<v Speaker 3>better yeah, and and so that's the first layer. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the second layer is basically through the partnerships that

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<v Speaker 3>all the schools are going to be conducting with big tech,

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<v Speaker 3>and that goes all the way through the college level.

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<v Speaker 3>And right now after the lockdown, you know, and everybody

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<v Speaker 3>can't go to school, that's that stuff is all accelerating.

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<v Speaker 3>So the other one is through the tech companies and

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<v Speaker 3>through things like adaptive learning software, socio emotional learning, biofeedback, wearables.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there's another movement called precision education. It wants

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<v Speaker 3>to scan your DNA. But these are always the private

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<v Speaker 3>companies will basically blur the lines between a public, government

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, so this is like the new phase. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So what Charlotte Iserbit wrote about was kind of dated

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<v Speaker 2>of Yale, right, Cia, they had a big role in

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff back in the day, and now it's moving

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But I would say that it actually is just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it wasn't part of the deliberate comming down,

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<v Speaker 3>but the updated reprint, she basically said, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>Basically she leaked the documents and Project Best was called

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<v Speaker 3>Better Education Skills through Technology. It was part of the

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<v Speaker 3>Reagan Private Sector Initiative, which was in charge of public

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<v Speaker 3>private partnerships, and basically she found that it was a

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<v Speaker 3>through technology companies that would use the adaptive learning software

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<v Speaker 3>or at the time it was basically the skinner box. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so operating conditioning stuff. So. And at the time THH.

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<v Speaker 3>Bell was the Secretary of Education. Okay, well, he hands

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<v Speaker 3>it off to somebody called Bill Bennett. Okay, Secretary of

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<v Speaker 3>Education Bill benn.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>He set up this company called K twelve, Inc. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's a virtual online charter school. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>with DeVos during her first education tour to discuss we

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<v Speaker 3>Learning software, which is a fancy name for the digital

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<v Speaker 3>version of Skinner's Skinner Box, and some of those companies

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<v Speaker 3>the pre citations in my book. So basically, what you're

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<v Speaker 3>of CARES money right now, that's basically the stimulus money.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you know it's a direct line of companies

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<v Speaker 3>and people from Project Best, which which Charlotte. So I

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<v Speaker 3>would say it's pretty much in line with what she

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<v Speaker 3>talked about. If I updated something, it would be my

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<v Speaker 3>look at the actual technology and the eugenics part and

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<v Speaker 2>So go into that. What's your update in that in

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<v Speaker 2>that arena?

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<v Speaker 3>So basically it's on a scale, you know, gradual scale.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh you know, incremental push towards brain computer interfaces. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so the adaptive learning software is the first part. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically with the adaptive learning software is it's based on

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, the Skinner box case of be of

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<v Speaker 3>Skinny is Harbard psychology professor, and you know he uses

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<v Speaker 3>He's got four quadrants instead of two, et cetera. Uh

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<v Speaker 3>So you know there's a stimulus and a response. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>natural stimulus for Fido is salivation or I'm sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a natural response to the natural stimulus of the foo. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>If you associate something artificial with the food, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a bell. You can get the dog to salivate in

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically take that concept and put it on more

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<v Speaker 3>complex algorithms, make the stimulus the lesson, make the response

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<v Speaker 3>to student outcome, put it on a machine. Skinner had

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<v Speaker 3>analog stuff, so he didn't have digital windows and computers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet what you had was you know, like years and wheels.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you remember the old view Masters when we were kids,

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<v Speaker 3>said the Disney stuff on it so you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>got some pictures in it, and you push this button

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<v Speaker 3>and it turns the wheel and you see a different picture.

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<v Speaker 3>So instead of pictures on a wheel, put questions on

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<v Speaker 3>a real tape. Might be multiple choice, might be short answer.

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<v Speaker 3>It can only go one way. You turn the gear,

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<v Speaker 3>you describe your answer response to the stimulus, and then

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<v Speaker 3>based on how well you do, it might give you

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<v Speaker 3>a more challenging curriculum next, or it might remediate you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you actually had some that were designed to dispense chocolate

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<v Speaker 3>if you've got a correct answer, so that they actually

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to add the reward and punishment system to it.

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<v Speaker 3>You take that, you change the gears and the wheels

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<v Speaker 3>and the tape and put it on digital windows. You

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<v Speaker 3>got adaptive learning software. The idea is that it personalizes

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<v Speaker 3>your learning by tracking your stimulus response algorithms. Right, and

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<v Speaker 3>so in order to personalize that, it's basically data mining

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<v Speaker 3>the thinking part of your brain. Well. To supplement that,

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<v Speaker 3>they've got something called socio emotional learning. So this is

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<v Speaker 3>where we're going to data mind the feeling part of you.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna use these galvanic skin response monitors that were

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<v Speaker 3>funded by Bill Gates, or they're going to use something

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<v Speaker 3>called Effectiva, which can use look at EEG's or facial

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<v Speaker 3>recognition brain codes a Chinese company. It puts little headbands

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<v Speaker 3>on you and it measures your EEG. This is telling

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<v Speaker 3>the teachers are you paying attention? Do you like the lesson?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you not like it? Things like that, and so

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<v Speaker 3>that's the feeling part. Then the third part is what

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned is the precision education where they want to

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<v Speaker 3>look at your DNA and then before you even get

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<v Speaker 3>on the adaptive learning or the socio emotional learning, they

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, well, your DNA says you're really gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go X far. So you know, we're all gonna give

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<v Speaker 3>you the remedial program to begin with. We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>spend money on that other one, right because.

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<v Speaker 2>You're stay in that short bus class. You're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>running the short bus, but you're not gonna be riding

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<v Speaker 2>the bus. Because is this all at home? Is this

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean, is this for a class room or

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<v Speaker 2>other classrooms going away?

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<v Speaker 3>The classrooms are going away, dude, because I know that

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<v Speaker 3>they're not letting us go back anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know if we do like this is what

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<v Speaker 3>I think that if they let us go back, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if we can't, we can't push back against all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>They're they're gonna basically alternate days and you'll only come

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<v Speaker 3>to class basically for labs and things that you'd have

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<v Speaker 3>to be hands on in person for. So anything else

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<v Speaker 3>that you can read, write, or you know, any other

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<v Speaker 3>exercises you can do, it would have been on paper

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<v Speaker 3>and pan or digit otherwise digitally. They're going to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>basically do what they call distance learning online.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I had a when I read Jacques Attalie

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<v Speaker 2>and my Global Elite book series. He said in his

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<v Speaker 2>book that there would be no more classrooms, but basically

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not right now, but in the near future, there

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<v Speaker 2>would be basically just a little bitchy robot rolling around

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<v Speaker 2>your house bitching at you, and that little bitch bot

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<v Speaker 2>would be teaching you everything as well as being your

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<v Speaker 2>may and your butler and who knows what else, probably

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<v Speaker 2>something worse. But it's gonna be educating your kids too,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're gonna have a little bitch bot teaching your

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<v Speaker 2>kids who knows what, brainwashing your kids. And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he was basically saying that there would be no more classrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna go to some university or some school.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just gonna be sitting in your home, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>home learning, distance education for everybody. And I noticed when

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing graduate work a few years ago, they

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<v Speaker 2>were already implementing that in the university. They were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, phasing out people actually going to classes, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were constantly encouraging people just sign up online, just

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<v Speaker 2>take this class online. Just do it online. Don't even

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<v Speaker 2>do the you know, the traditional model of classes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that that goes along with something called competency

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<v Speaker 3>based education. Okay, so the traditional model of school is basically, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we largely use semesters. Okay, it might be sixteen weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>but you had semesters, and by the time you get

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<v Speaker 3>semester ended, you had to have all of your stuff

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<v Speaker 3>completed and relatively mastered at an academic level. So competency

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<v Speaker 3>based education says basically two things. One is that you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>based on all the stuff I just told you about

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<v Speaker 3>data mining and algorithms, right, some people just let them

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<v Speaker 3>get competent. Don't worry about them getting really smarter. Or nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let them get good enough to pull some gears,

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<v Speaker 3>push some buttons, you know, and do their you know,

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<v Speaker 3>mop some floors, whatever it might be. The other one

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<v Speaker 3>is that you know, some people require different amounts of

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<v Speaker 3>time for their competence, right, and so what they want

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<v Speaker 3>what that means is maybe you take a little bit longer,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you take maybe you're faster, right, maybe you finish

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<v Speaker 3>it quickly. And this is where they're talking about it's personalized.

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<v Speaker 3>It's personalized. This is the pitch that they give for

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<v Speaker 3>all of it. In addition to you know, the data

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<v Speaker 3>mining of the other technologies, the CBE competency based education

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<v Speaker 3>is saying that that basically, you know, take your time, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's on something called subscription basis. Well, who

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<v Speaker 3>can do a subscription basis? It's not a building because look,

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<v Speaker 3>if we've got limited amounts of classes, you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>limited amounts of seats, and you want to take three years,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't be in here for we want to get

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<v Speaker 3>a new thirty people in this room or whatever it

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<v Speaker 3>might be. So the CBE facilitates that and the distance

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<v Speaker 3>learning facilitates the CBE, and they're basically encouraging it now

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<v Speaker 3>because look, I argued, I'm trying to you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>to at least slow this stuff down, you know, And

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<v Speaker 3>to do distance, let's have synchronous like me and you

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<v Speaker 3>are doing right now, Jay, Like the students would have

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<v Speaker 3>to all be logged in and I do get my

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<v Speaker 3>let you know, I have hiteboard back here or something,

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<v Speaker 3>questions and you know, same exact model, except you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're just through through a screen until hopefully until you

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<v Speaker 3>get back. They say no, everybody wants to say no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>just make it easier on the kids, let them, let

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<v Speaker 3>them take their time, and let them just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>want to turn it in early, turn in early. So

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<v Speaker 3>the problem with that, though, is this, I can't keep

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<v Speaker 3>up with that, like you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if I had stuff turned in on time,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, okay, I gotta get this many papers created

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<v Speaker 3>by the end of the next two weeks before the

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<v Speaker 3>next papers come in, and I can manage the flow.

422
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<v Speaker 3>I got people turning it extra stuff. I got people

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<v Speaker 3>turning it like, I mean, it's constant flow. And some kids,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're night ourls. They want questions midnight. I

425
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<v Speaker 3>can't answer questions at midnight. So the adaptive learning software

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<v Speaker 3>is right, also goes along with it, because that's what's

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<v Speaker 3>going to facilitate twenty four hour instant feedback at your.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. But I'm sure they're selling that like that's a

429
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<v Speaker 2>good thing, Like, oh, it's adaptive and so it's going

430
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<v Speaker 2>to help you learn better and quicker and all this stuff.

431
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<v Speaker 2>But I mean this is all just totally for control.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the thing is that I think they

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<v Speaker 2>had to they I think my view is that they

434
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<v Speaker 2>did a public education thing for a long time so

435
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<v Speaker 2>that then they could turn around and privatize everything. Right,

436
00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 2>you see this with pretty much everything else, Like they'll

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<v Speaker 2>do a public phase quickly talks about this with the

438
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<v Speaker 2>banking phases, they'll do like a phase of FDR socializing things,

439
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<v Speaker 2>and then they'll privatize it and then they'll go back

440
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<v Speaker 2>to the socializing and they'll privatize. It's like this back

441
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<v Speaker 2>and forth step that they do for more and more control.

442
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not disagreeing with the thesis of your book, but

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we step back a little bit and because

444
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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned some interesting philosophy that I do take interest

445
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<v Speaker 2>in here. You mentioned the natural law, metaphysics, Mortimer Adler's

446
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<v Speaker 2>approach to the Great Books and C. S. Lewis uh

447
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<v Speaker 2>And then we want to get to the Daoist stuff,

448
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<v Speaker 2>because that's your that's your title you use is Dallas professor.

449
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<v Speaker 2>How do you how was there connection to to Taoism

450
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<v Speaker 2>and the logos here? There's actually a famous Orthodox book

451
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<v Speaker 2>by saraphrom Rose, The Dow of Christ, where he connects

452
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<v Speaker 2>the logos to the doll. But can you talk a

453
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<v Speaker 2>little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can do my best, you could probably do better,

455
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<v Speaker 3>but I doubt that. What thing is?

456
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you're good.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh So, I mean, I know the one is that

458
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<v Speaker 3>you correct me if I'm wrong, you know, But in

459
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<v Speaker 3>I believe the Chinese interpretation is in the beginning was

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<v Speaker 3>the dow. So, I mean, that's one of the first

461
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<v Speaker 3>literal ways. But you know I should say that before

462
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<v Speaker 3>I went through different phases. Uh, I went through kind

463
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<v Speaker 3>of a New Age fate. I went through a couple

464
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<v Speaker 3>of New Age phases. Okay. And I was really into

465
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<v Speaker 3>the e ching and that's not Dallas.

466
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<v Speaker 2>I right, I never went that route. So you can

467
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<v Speaker 2>you can tell me about that stuff, okay.

468
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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So so with so so with Dallas and you know, okay,

469
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<v Speaker 3>so with the eaching, you've got like show my tattoos.

470
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<v Speaker 3>When I did this because I'm a martial artist as well.

471
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<v Speaker 2>I watched that show Lost, remember Lost, and they had

472
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<v Speaker 2>the eaching that was the Dharma project.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never seen a lot of Lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you didn't miss anything, but go ahead.

475
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<v Speaker 3>Uh so. So so that's so, it's so yeah, So

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<v Speaker 3>the Dallas Professor is a couple of things. I had

477
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<v Speaker 3>a friend that used to say he was into Bruce

478
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<v Speaker 3>Lee and he was like, that's you. You're the Dallas

479
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<v Speaker 3>You're the Dallas Priest. And I was like, you know

480
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<v Speaker 3>that he's the one that got me into the ea ching.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh And then I'm into martial arts still, and then

482
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<v Speaker 3>you know it worked for you know the Christian things.

483
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:46.680
<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, I like this, you know, and

484
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<v Speaker 3>then you know, the idea of the low the logie.

485
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<v Speaker 3>You know, there there is truth in the dow, in

486
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<v Speaker 3>the eaching, and and you know, even the New Age stuff,

487
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.720
<v Speaker 3>you know it might come to a wrong conclusion. There's

488
00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>lots of truth in that. So so I also want

489
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<v Speaker 3>to use the Dallas Professor as a bridge. You know,

490
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<v Speaker 3>not each you medical like, you know, everything's the same,

491
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<v Speaker 3>but in building a bridge from the log yeah, and

492
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:13.359
<v Speaker 3>so so with the EA ching. You know, the idea

493
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<v Speaker 3>is this, if you ever seen the Yin yang, the

494
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<v Speaker 3>ideas you know that the universe is created of two

495
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:21.839
<v Speaker 3>opposing forces is you know, kind of dialectical hegelion. It's

496
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<v Speaker 3>the idea of uh. You know, Yin is anything that's weak, soft, passive,

497
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<v Speaker 3>et cetera. Yang is anything it's hard, strong, active, Okay, right, uh.

498
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<v Speaker 3>And in martial arts, you know there's soft styles based

499
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<v Speaker 3>on yin and then there's hard styles based on yong. Okay.

500
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<v Speaker 3>And neither principle is necessarily right or wrong. You can

501
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<v Speaker 3>be using for different things, but underneath it all, there's

502
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<v Speaker 3>there is an understanding that there is an order to nature.

503
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<v Speaker 3>So around the yin yang you'll have eight elements. Okay,

504
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 3>there's three side lines that's having three broken lines as Earth.

505
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<v Speaker 3>Then there's I won't explain that, the combinations, but it's

506
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<v Speaker 3>the rest is fire, water, uh, wind, thunder lake and mount.

507
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<v Speaker 2>Right the magic, the gathering stuff right throwing down them

508
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<v Speaker 2>cards win fire, magic may just I'm just just you

509
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<v Speaker 2>know what's.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny is I had a card system of it, like

511
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<v Speaker 3>it was. It was cool. I still have it. It's

512
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<v Speaker 3>it's so it had visual So so each of these you're.

513
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<v Speaker 2>Like the only you're the only magic the gathering dude

514
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<v Speaker 2>who fights in the octagon. I can tell you that

515
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<v Speaker 2>right now.

516
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<v Speaker 3>Yea, no magic the gathering though, but uh and I

517
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<v Speaker 3>never no, it's all good. So so with those with

518
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<v Speaker 3>those cards or okay, so the cards have images and

519
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<v Speaker 3>they represent the symbol like what it means Heaven interacting

520
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.359
<v Speaker 3>with Earth or water interest something like that. So it

521
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:52.400
<v Speaker 3>helps you visualize and meditating stuff like that. But they

522
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<v Speaker 3>used to just cast these yarrow stocks to get like

523
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<v Speaker 3>what they call divination. So what's what's interesting about it

524
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<v Speaker 3>is there's a there's a rational component, there's an anti

525
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<v Speaker 3>rational component. So the rational component literally becomes a basis

526
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<v Speaker 3>for binary code. As a German mathematician by the name

527
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<v Speaker 3>of Ludwig Vond something I always forget it, but he

528
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<v Speaker 3>basically took the idea of broken lines and slide lines

529
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<v Speaker 3>and just made zeros and ones. And that's the concept

530
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<v Speaker 3>of binary code, and that you can basically express anything

531
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<v Speaker 3>with bionary. That's the rational component. The non rational or

532
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 3>mystical component is you could cast those stalks, you could

533
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<v Speaker 3>get the symbol of whatever, the mountain and lake, and

534
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 3>you could sit there and there's a little oracle poem

535
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<v Speaker 3>that goes and that you meditate on that, you know,

536
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<v Speaker 3>based on what your question is, what should I do

537
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<v Speaker 3>with my marriage or my money or something, and then

538
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<v Speaker 3>it's supposed to give you this this on this this

539
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<v Speaker 3>secret massacre.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the characteristic universalis right. That's the lib Nets the

541
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<v Speaker 2>philosopher leib Nets looked to the I chain to help

542
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<v Speaker 2>develop this idea of a universal characteristic language that would

543
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<v Speaker 2>later be influential on computers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, And you know, I sometimes think of you know,

545
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<v Speaker 3>because I teach rhetoric. I've I've tried to come up

546
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<v Speaker 3>with ways that it parallels, you know, Aristotelian logic, which

547
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<v Speaker 3>has to have a subject, you know, anything coherent has

548
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<v Speaker 3>to have a subject. In a predicit or it has

549
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 3>to have reasoning and evidence, it has to have general

550
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<v Speaker 3>and specific, it has to have right every otherwise it's

551
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<v Speaker 3>just an abstraction or it's just a data point, right,

552
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<v Speaker 3>And so for for meaning to come there is so

553
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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's kind of a digression. Uh, but I

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<v Speaker 3>I've been I've wanted to, and one of these days,

555
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<v Speaker 3>I hope I will write an article called uh Bruce

556
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Lee or a gee kund argument against post modernism, and

557
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<v Speaker 3>so brucely he wrote one of one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>famous things he wrote was the Dow of g kun do. Okay,

559
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<v Speaker 3>what it means is the dow is the way and

560
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<v Speaker 3>then ge kuhn basically is the intercepting fish. It was

561
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<v Speaker 3>intercepting fist. It's a type of technique. It's a stop.

562
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<v Speaker 3>It's it's not important to what I want to make here.

563
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<v Speaker 3>The last word is dough, which is the way. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you take that literal transition to English, it's the

565
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<v Speaker 3>way of the intercepting fist of the way, or it's

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<v Speaker 3>the way of the way of the intercepting fists. And

567
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 3>it's like, why are there two ways in it? Because

568
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 3>dow is like logos, the order of the universe and

569
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<v Speaker 3>Doe is like your individual expression of it. Bruce was

570
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<v Speaker 3>all about saying breaking tradition and classical tradition with kung

571
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<v Speaker 3>fu and saying, look, you don't have to just do

572
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 3>it this one way. You could mix it with boxing.

573
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>And he was largely the founding father of mixed martial

574
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<v Speaker 3>arts because he was always mixing the style the people. Yeah,

575
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Bruce Lee, Yeah, you know, he never actually fought or anything,

576
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.799
<v Speaker 3>but you know he was his philosophy, his Brusley's fighting

577
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 3>message was very influential, and he was a philosopher by

578
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<v Speaker 3>the way. He was into Spinoza Washington State. He was

579
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<v Speaker 3>like he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a yeah, yeah, interesting, see you're teaching me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you would be interested just to read the philosophy section. No, no,

582
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:10.960
<v Speaker 3>he's got a philosophy section. And you probably have just

583
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<v Speaker 3>wonder just reading that part. Oh dude, did I did

584
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<v Speaker 3>it go out?

585
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Did you just for a second there, What were you

586
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 2>saying about philosophy?

587
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<v Speaker 3>I was I was just saying that, you know, you

588
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<v Speaker 3>would you would be interested to read his doll jeep

589
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 3>wundo if you can get your hands on it. It's

590
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:26.159
<v Speaker 3>a quickly not necessarily there's a bunch of fighting uh

591
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 3>manuals in their diagnams. But the first small section is

592
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 3>his philosophy relates. But so what he's saying is this,

593
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<v Speaker 3>Bruce was all about you can do your own thing,

594
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<v Speaker 3>you know, and tall guys gonna do stuff different than

595
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<v Speaker 3>the short guy. And that makes sense. But it makes

596
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 3>sense because they're using the natural presuppositional order of their body.

597
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 3>There's a natural order to it. That's the doll part.

598
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Bruce said, you can't just do whatever you want to

599
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<v Speaker 3>say that's my style because I made it up. It

600
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 3>should it has to actually align with the physics and

601
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.599
<v Speaker 3>the geometry of the human body relative to leverage and

602
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 3>distancing and speed. Right, And so it's still as much

603
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 3>as he was, you know, very you know, I guess

604
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 3>in some ways you might say postmodern because he was

605
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 3>all about mixing everything together. He still was very classical

606
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:17.519
<v Speaker 3>in the sense that there is and there is some

607
00:35:17.719 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 3>basic a priori metaphysical principles to fighting that everybody is

608
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 3>going to have to follow, regardless of how creative you

609
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<v Speaker 3>want to get.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. Yeah, I've never even thought about that. Uh

611
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<v Speaker 2>so is the five finger death punch that Beatrix Kiddo

612
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>does to kill Bill. Is that real or not?

613
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<v Speaker 3>I don't. You know, there might be some esoteric people

614
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 3>that will tell you, but I've never seen anything like that.

615
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>You see those YouTube videos of like shollling masters like

616
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 2>doing this and people fall over like Benny hen or something.

617
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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, some of that stuff just totally fake stuff.

618
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<v Speaker 3>I want to say, it's the omen right, here's the

619
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<v Speaker 3>one thing. I can't remember the guy. But you know,

620
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<v Speaker 3>let's put it this way. Most of the people that

621
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<v Speaker 3>are really into that stuff, they don't spark a lot.

622
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 3>They don't like getting punched in the face, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. It's up a bunch of a bunch

624
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<v Speaker 3>of conn right, A little bit a little bit some

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<v Speaker 3>of them. You know, I don't want to say there's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to cheat or my you know, over matter.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, I watched a bunch of videos talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how in the martial arts world there's a lot of conment.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, those videos made a good argument

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a lot of like, uh, the story of

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<v Speaker 2>Frank Duke's remember the story is that is that made up?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think he's making all that stuff up?

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty verifiable that he's making it all he's contradicted himself.

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<v Speaker 3>He said things about his Kuma te It was like

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<v Speaker 3>if he fought that many people's like that, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>fit it into that many days, like even the number

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<v Speaker 3>of times, you know, minutes in a day, and you

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't do it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I beat up as many dudes as there are minutes

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<v Speaker 2>in a day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I'm not into beating people up or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is, uh, what you get out of getting

643
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<v Speaker 4>punched in the face and being in that is does

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<v Speaker 4>teach you about natural law?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you can't. I mean maybe some people do, but

646
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how you can lie to yourself after

647
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<v Speaker 3>you get in the face. You know what, you know what?

648
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<v Speaker 3>You got punched in the face, right, so it teaches

649
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<v Speaker 3>you that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's bring it back to philosophy.

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<v Speaker 3>So now, sometimes what did you have to submit to?

652
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<v Speaker 2>What got you looking at natural law? Ten Commandments, Old Testament?

653
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<v Speaker 2>How did that tie into this?

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<v Speaker 3>So I so natural law I kind of pulled in

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<v Speaker 3>as basically the government its expression in our constitutional government

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<v Speaker 3>read it didn't go natural law old testing necessarily, although

657
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<v Speaker 3>obviously those conds that do derived from that. But I

658
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<v Speaker 3>was largely trying to synthesize some system of a priori

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<v Speaker 3>metaphysics with or or grounded in how we see it

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<v Speaker 3>expressed in the Bill of Rights basically, right, and so

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<v Speaker 3>this idea of you know, property, self defense expression, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but and you see that that's tied to you

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<v Speaker 2>think the trust the trivium actually is intimately connected to that,

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<v Speaker 2>you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I I found that it was the the method

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<v Speaker 3>that Christians used to teach not just the philosophy but

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<v Speaker 3>also the civics right during the time of the Apostolic

668
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<v Speaker 3>Fathers and things like that, or not that they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>call it the trivium yet, but you know, some people

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<v Speaker 3>would have said it goes back to Isocrates and play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ancient pedagogy, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, but the idea of using grammar, logic and

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<v Speaker 3>rhetoric and that there is truth, that the names you

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<v Speaker 3>give to the categories of reality actually means something, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And so you know, I find that to be maybe

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<v Speaker 3>implicit in the trivian in the ways that it has

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<v Speaker 3>always been used, whether you know, before Christians after.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, modern philosophy is all predicated on there being

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<v Speaker 2>no metaphysics. So for the most part, I mean ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of it is predicated on that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're stumbled onto one of the key components of

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<v Speaker 2>what I've tried to stress for a long time, which

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<v Speaker 2>is that there's absolutely a priori assumptions about metaphysics in

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<v Speaker 2>anybody's worldview, because it's impossible, it's impossible to have a view,

685
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<v Speaker 2>even if your view is anti metaphysics, that's still a

686
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<v Speaker 2>version of metaphysics. There's no way to have a completely neutral,

687
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<v Speaker 2>completely agnostic position. It's just not possible when people trick

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<v Speaker 2>themselves into thinking that they can have these kinds of views.

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<v Speaker 2>So you said in your email that you were curious

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<v Speaker 2>to hear my thoughts on your historical analysis, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm asking those questions. And yeah, I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is really this is fascinating what you're saying. I never

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<v Speaker 2>would have thought to tie it into the world of

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<v Speaker 2>martial arts and all that, but yeah, I mean what

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<v Speaker 2>we see is that all over this world, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really operates at whatever branch or level of reality that

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, it all operates on consistent patterns and principles.

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<v Speaker 2>And that would be the true. That would be true

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<v Speaker 2>for warfare as much as for education, as much as

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<v Speaker 2>for debate, right, I do a lot of debates. Debate

701
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<v Speaker 2>works on the same principles like you might find in

702
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<v Speaker 2>the octagon that's never been in the octagon. But I

703
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<v Speaker 2>do know how to win a debate. So what's next.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, let's talk about tell us about the what's

705
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<v Speaker 2>the argumentation of the book? Like, is it like a

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<v Speaker 2>giant book? Is it a short book. I've not read

707
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<v Speaker 2>the book, so I don't know what's in there yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I do look forward to reading the book. You piqued

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<v Speaker 2>my interest. But take us through the flow of the book,

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<v Speaker 2>if you would, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean basically it is two components. One is

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you could say three or maybe you can

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<v Speaker 3>say four. Now I sound unclear. So there's two big components.

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<v Speaker 3>One is the privatization corporatization of education. We kind of

715
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<v Speaker 3>touched on that. And the second one is how big

716
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<v Speaker 3>tech is going to facilitate that and move us towards

717
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<v Speaker 3>something called transhumanism or posthumanism. Okay, And so it basically

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<v Speaker 3>walks through Well I should I should have mentioned, you know,

719
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<v Speaker 3>you said earlier about how they privatize. They go big

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<v Speaker 3>government first in order to privatize later. That was basically

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<v Speaker 3>what I had said about. I used the Hegeleyan dialectic

722
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<v Speaker 3>to say, you know, because the reason why my department

723
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<v Speaker 3>got shut down was it was ninety percent funded by

724
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<v Speaker 3>federal funds, and we couldn't get federal funds because we

725
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<v Speaker 3>can't get your federal funds if you don't pass a

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<v Speaker 3>state budget. Well, if we had had ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 3>our money come from thee we could have you know,

728
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<v Speaker 3>we could have done our own thing. So you know,

729
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<v Speaker 3>you make them dependent on the government, then later you

730
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<v Speaker 3>can go, oh you take that away. Yeah, and then

731
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<v Speaker 3>they come in right, uh, and then your idea about

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<v Speaker 3>you know how that's the cycle. You know, that's a

733
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<v Speaker 3>back and forth cycle. That's something else I talked about recently,

734
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<v Speaker 3>which is, you know, some people called disaster capitalism or

735
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<v Speaker 3>creative destruction, which Joseph Stumper called his idea of economics. Okay,

736
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<v Speaker 3>but I walked through that, and then I look at

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<v Speaker 3>how that is geared into changing academics to workforce training, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I talk about how the different technologies will facilitate

739
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<v Speaker 3>that through the data mining of the thinking with the

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<v Speaker 3>dept of Learning, software feeling with socio emotional learning, and

741
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<v Speaker 3>then basically the body, the genetics with precision education, and

742
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<v Speaker 3>you might find it interesting, and I see that that

743
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<v Speaker 3>has an analog with right your ethos, logos, pathhouse, right,

744
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<v Speaker 3>you're will, you're you're feeling, and you're thinking. Okay, And

745
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<v Speaker 3>then after that, basically they'll take all of that data,

746
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<v Speaker 3>feed it into machine learning and deep learning to build AI.

747
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.880
<v Speaker 3>And when I can teach you and learn faster than

748
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<v Speaker 3>than the student and the teacher combined, then we'll have

749
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<v Speaker 3>to merge with it, like like Elon Musk says, you'll

750
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<v Speaker 3>have to get his neural link, you know. And that's

751
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<v Speaker 3>why he's doing it, because you know, he's trying to

752
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<v Speaker 3>take care of he doesn't, you know, don't just not

753
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<v Speaker 3>build the stuff that's gonna take over he's you know,

754
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<v Speaker 3>we'll build this other thing and it'll all be great

755
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<v Speaker 3>as if it's not the goal. So that's that's where

756
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<v Speaker 3>the book ends. And then the solutions has to do

757
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 3>with well, there's five points. One is you know, local control,

758
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<v Speaker 3>public control. That means, you know, keep public separate from private,

759
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:36.239
<v Speaker 3>keep corporate separate from government. You know. The second one

760
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<v Speaker 3>was abolished the psychological method of conditioning as a pedagogy

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<v Speaker 3>as a philosophy of education. The third was student data privacy,

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<v Speaker 3>to the extent that you have to actually use these

763
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<v Speaker 3>technologies or any kind. I mean, we're using TEX so

764
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a lud height necessarily I might become one,

765
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<v Speaker 3>if you know, if they keep going in this other direction.

766
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<v Speaker 2>Can be dressed so like an Amish dude.

767
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<v Speaker 3>I'll dig a dirt hole and sit in. And my

768
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<v Speaker 3>friend used to say, what do you want me to

769
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<v Speaker 3>live in a dirt hole? You know, if the option is,

770
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<v Speaker 3>you know, some of the stuff I talked about and

771
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<v Speaker 3>my book dirt hole, please, I'll take a dirt hole please.

772
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<v Speaker 3>So uh then then the last you have to do

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<v Speaker 3>with the metaphysics, so one is you know, actually looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the philosophy of metaphysics, you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to have a debate about that in the

776
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<v Speaker 3>academic sphere. At least let's talk about it instead of

777
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<v Speaker 3>doing deconstructionism and skepticism and phenomenology and performance identity and

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<v Speaker 3>write everything. It's anti logos literally right when they call

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<v Speaker 3>the deconstruction and you know, they say you're logo centric,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's some kind of pejorative or something, and and

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<v Speaker 3>and then grounded and the method for that would be

782
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<v Speaker 3>classical trivium, right, because you know the trivian presupposed is

783
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<v Speaker 3>look that if you name something, that the logic follows

784
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<v Speaker 3>based on the name you gave it, Meaning there is

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<v Speaker 3>a real relationship between the name you give something, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and what's that and the object that it refers to,

787
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 3>the thing in itself? Right, it's not just nominalism, right,

788
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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise you know the low the logic part can be

789
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<v Speaker 3>ad hoc. Okay, And so that that's that's how I

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<v Speaker 3>that's how I saw that go to air. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the arc of the book. It's about three hundred

792
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<v Speaker 3>and fifty pages, and then there's another one hundred some

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<v Speaker 3>pages of citations, a couple of diagrams, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's back up to the genetics DNA part. How

795
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<v Speaker 2>does this gonna play This sounds like gatica. How is

796
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<v Speaker 2>this going to play into it?

797
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<v Speaker 3>Okay? So obviously this is the eugenics part. This is

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<v Speaker 3>this is the beginning of the eugens you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>see you know, so eugenics used to have this part

800
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<v Speaker 3>would be called race hygiene. There was also mental hygiene,

801
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<v Speaker 3>and you could put that under the category of the

802
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<v Speaker 3>adaptive learning software and the social emotional learning stuff. Okay,

803
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<v Speaker 3>but it basically comes out of the Bell Curve stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It largely refers to IQ. There's a guy named Robert Kloman,

805
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<v Speaker 3>and he wants to give you quote a learning chip

806
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<v Speaker 3>that basically tells you what your you know, IQ propensity

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<v Speaker 3>is maybe do you have learning disabilities? And he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>cap you based on that. Well, Robert Kloman is just

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<v Speaker 3>one of many people cited in the Bell Curve, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, if you've ever actually read the Bell

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<v Speaker 3>Curve or you ever just skimmed through the citation, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a big there's a big host of people there that

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<v Speaker 3>not only basically cite the old eugenic statistics, but I

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<v Speaker 3>mean they basically say stuff like you should sterilize black people,

815
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<v Speaker 3>you should sterilize brown people, et cetera. Uh. And so

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<v Speaker 3>that's literally the data that the stuff is based on,

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<v Speaker 3>or it's certainly the philosophy that it's based on. So

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<v Speaker 3>h it ties it. So where's the corporate aspect come in?

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<v Speaker 3>How does the precision education come to? Well, the way

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<v Speaker 3>that they're refining those algorithms is basically through companies like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three in me, right, so when you go to

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three and me, you know, when you give them

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<v Speaker 3>your DNA, they do your little ethnic lineage or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>They also have other things that if you've ever seen commercials,

825
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<v Speaker 3>they're like, oh, they've got new tests for this disease

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<v Speaker 3>and that disease, and one of them has to do

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<v Speaker 3>with IQ okay. And you know if you look at

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<v Speaker 3>if you actually look at what they find and what

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<v Speaker 3>people you know, it's not the ratio or the correlation

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<v Speaker 3>or probability is not that high, okay. And what I

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<v Speaker 3>mean is this this gets us back to the problem

832
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:31.400
<v Speaker 3>of empiricism. All this stuff is based on induction, which

833
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.280
<v Speaker 3>is based basically correlation. If you look at stuff like

834
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:38.159
<v Speaker 3>skin color and hair and eye color, you know that

835
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.000
<v Speaker 3>stuff's pretty easy. There's almost you know, there's a very

836
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.440
<v Speaker 3>high correlation between how you can predict it. You know.

837
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 3>So like Mendel did this thing with the p's. You know,

838
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 3>if you ever remember the Punnett square, right, you had

839
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:52.119
<v Speaker 3>a different little square with big letter, little letter the

840
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<v Speaker 3>different genes and oh, this is the this is the

841
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:56.480
<v Speaker 3>percentage or the rate at which these genes will be

842
00:47:56.519 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 3>passed with certain phenotypes. They can do that pretty accurate.

843
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay with IQ, I A would get the number mixed up.

844
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 3>It's either fifty or five hundred. Either ones big to

845
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 3>me that they say refer to your genetic IQ. And

846
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 3>then the percentage of the efficacy it's not ninety percent,

847
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:19.119
<v Speaker 3>like you know, some of that stuff is can be

848
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<v Speaker 3>upwards to ninety percent. Some of this other stuff is

849
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:24.599
<v Speaker 3>in the fifties, sixties, forties, right, you know IQ was

850
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:27.239
<v Speaker 3>in that range. So you know, I know there's some

851
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 3>people that have strong feelings, but I'm not saying that.

852
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's no physiological capacity to intelligence. Obviously there's

853
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 3>people on the spectrum and you can have brain damage.

854
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:41.360
<v Speaker 3>You're not saying that, But you know what they kind

855
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 3>of like with some of the other models we've been

856
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 3>seeing lately. I know you like to be careful about

857
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.119
<v Speaker 3>what's your reference on your show. People know what I'm

858
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:51.480
<v Speaker 3>talking about, right, Those models can be very inaccurate and

859
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 3>they might change right in the meantime, they've been treating

860
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.039
<v Speaker 3>you based on an inaccurate model. So so that's that's

861
00:48:58.079 --> 00:48:59.679
<v Speaker 3>the DNA precision ed park.

862
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So they would have basically uh stored in terms

863
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 2>of the data on you what your propensities and possibilities

864
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and potentialities are from the outset, and that would determine

865
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 2>the specific feedback loop that they put you into. Is

866
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that what you're saying.

867
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, not just for you know, so it

868
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:25.400
<v Speaker 3>was right for workforce training.

869
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is education for anything.

870
00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and also for pre crime and things like that.

871
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 3>So you know, they got to discipline you while you're

872
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 3>in school. So one of the things that you have.

873
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 2>A propensity to be a damn thief?

874
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:40.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you act up.

875
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Horses. You are going to be stealing crayons and.

876
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Ship or jay. You're too much of a class clown.

877
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.960
<v Speaker 3>You can't. We can't give you the academic route. You're

878
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.159
<v Speaker 3>cracking too many jokes.

879
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I was clown. I won. Yes, I was clown.

880
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:01.599
<v Speaker 3>I was too. I was also class uh, suspensions and

881
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:09.159
<v Speaker 3>other stuff not good in school until I went to college.

882
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

883
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I was gonna mention real quick, was that?

884
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

885
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 3>So with through the public private partnerships, what I saw

886
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 3>was when you see some of these counsels, it's like, well,

887
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 3>there was a mental health counselor on here, there was

888
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:23.960
<v Speaker 3>a there was a health and Human services director, or

889
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 3>there's criminal justice person or you know, in addition to

890
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.559
<v Speaker 3>work for the Chamber of Commerce. And you're going like, oh,

891
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 3>so they're going to take all the data from the

892
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.519
<v Speaker 3>student learning and they're going to use it not just

893
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.480
<v Speaker 3>for education meaning workforce training, they're going to use it

894
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.719
<v Speaker 3>for health care, and they're going to use it for

895
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:47.400
<v Speaker 3>criminal justice basically pre crime and uh, you know, eugenics, right,

896
00:50:47.480 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's you know, you're talking about big data

897
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:54.599
<v Speaker 3>controlling your health. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Sorry, no.

898
00:50:54.639 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 2>It's okay. We got a statement from Conway. He sends

899
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.519
<v Speaker 2>ten dollars. He says, if you could read only one

900
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 2>book on the new world order, technocracy, transhumanism, what would

901
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 2>you recommend. You can't just read one book. You gotta

902
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 2>read two. You gotta read John's book, and you got

903
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to read my book because part two of my book

904
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:13.679
<v Speaker 2>is all about transhumanism in Hollywood and how Hollywood has

905
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 2>promoted that. But aside from John's book, in my book,

906
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:19.960
<v Speaker 2>is there a book that stands out to you that

907
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:23.639
<v Speaker 2>really enlightened you to the transhumanist stuff.

908
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.880
<v Speaker 3>To the transhumanists stuff, Ray kurthwell stuff, I all three intelligent,

909
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 3>age of intelligent machines, Age of spiritual machines and the

910
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 3>singularity is near. You can you can do it, you know,

911
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:39.719
<v Speaker 3>you can just dig through the index. You know, they're

912
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:41.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty thick books, I mean, and you can see though

913
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.360
<v Speaker 3>that it's a consistent message throughout and you can see

914
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:48.760
<v Speaker 3>that most a lot of those predictions are pretty accurate.

915
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, as far as the timelines the game, right, yeah,

916
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 3>if as far as transhumanism, that's that's what I would

917
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 3>say for those.

918
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, we've gone for a while. Do you want is

919
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.079
<v Speaker 2>there any other aspects of the book you want to highlight?

920
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:04.559
<v Speaker 2>We've gone for about an hour. I've been keeping my

921
00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:06.679
<v Speaker 2>interviews to about an hour now, So is there anything

922
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:07.519
<v Speaker 2>else you want to hit on?

923
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Man, I think we hit everything pretty good. Yeah,

924
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 3>it's good.

925
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, education is key. I mean that's where they really

926
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.719
<v Speaker 2>focus on, you know, younger age to brainwash them into

927
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.679
<v Speaker 2>the system, I mean, from womb to tomb basically. So

928
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.760
<v Speaker 2>you're not just talking about, like, you know, education at

929
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:31.239
<v Speaker 2>a youth stage. You're talking about full on lifetime education,

930
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 2>which I think a lot of people don't understand and

931
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:36.880
<v Speaker 2>that I totally forgot that was a u n things

932
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.840
<v Speaker 2>to you know, lifelong education and all that and so

933
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:41.719
<v Speaker 2>that's what we're looking at. Here is all the stuff

934
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:45.440
<v Speaker 2>that I cover in the Global Elite book series. John

935
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 2>is looking at here in terms of his education background

936
00:52:48.360 --> 00:52:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and saying that this is what this is what's coming right,

937
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:54.679
<v Speaker 2>it's literal brave, new world level stuff. So, do you

938
00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:57.760
<v Speaker 2>have a website you want me to direct people to

939
00:52:58.000 --> 00:52:59.639
<v Speaker 2>or is it just to get the book?

940
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh? So so it's school World ordered dot info is

941
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 3>my website, and okay, let me have that. It's got

942
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.960
<v Speaker 3>my interviews and links to my articles. Oh, it's got

943
00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:17.679
<v Speaker 3>all my it's got basically my entire bibliography online. Uh,

944
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 3>you know with all the links everything that I could

945
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 3>link gotcha.

946
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here it is. Let me add that. I'll add

947
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.280
<v Speaker 2>it to the show description and the here to the

948
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 2>chat for everybody. So yeah, we got up to almost

949
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 2>three hundred live tonight. So we had a good audience.

950
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Thank you everybody, and again the link is there to

951
00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:36.920
<v Speaker 2>get the book. Uh to let me add his website

952
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.320
<v Speaker 2>and you guys can reach out to him if you

953
00:53:39.400 --> 00:53:41.920
<v Speaker 2>want to ask him questions or if you want to

954
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 2>do you have do you want to take some questions

955
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.039
<v Speaker 2>from the audience if we have any questions.

956
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll be happy to do that.

957
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, anybody we have one super chat, go ahead.

958
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:54.360
<v Speaker 3>No, I was just gonna throw on my Twitter and

959
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:57.639
<v Speaker 3>we'll do it at the end. Go questions please, Yeah.

960
00:53:57.239 --> 00:54:00.960
<v Speaker 2>You might have any questions. We'll let him field your questions.

961
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 2>He's the Taoist professor and his book is School World Order,

962
00:54:06.239 --> 00:54:10.239
<v Speaker 2>The Technocraticalization of Corporatized Education. It rolls off the tongue

963
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:16.320
<v Speaker 2>like molasses. Hey Jay, my grandma's cousin was Rosemary woodruff

964
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Leary's wife. Wow, well, I just covered Tim Leary in

965
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 2>the last Elite book Talk. So I hope that y'all

966
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:28.920
<v Speaker 2>aren't offended. I hope that y'all still love me, because

967
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I love y'all. Don't get offended. Everybody gets so offended

968
00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:35.960
<v Speaker 2>so easily. What's the quest? All right? So we got

969
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.480
<v Speaker 2>some questions coming in just at me. If you want

970
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:40.760
<v Speaker 2>to ask a question for me or John, y'all are

971
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 2>cheap tonight. We only got one super chat from our

972
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:51.199
<v Speaker 2>friend what was his name, Conway Twitty's Conway Twittys Glider,

973
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and we gave him a book recommendation. So a bunch

974
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.039
<v Speaker 2>of cheap o's who don't want to ask no questions,

975
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 2>what is wrong with you? I'm just kidding, you know.

976
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 2>I love y'all. People saying stupid names in the chat.

977
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:10.400
<v Speaker 2>We love you too. I love y'all. I don't see

978
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.480
<v Speaker 2>any questions. Well, no questions, John, Thank you very much.

979
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:17.480
<v Speaker 2>It was an awesome interview. Well, here's a question. Do

980
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:19.559
<v Speaker 2>you mind some questions? Here's the rolling in.

981
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Do you mind.

982
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:24.199
<v Speaker 2>This guy says, are you a Christian?

983
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, yes, sir. I mean I you know I

984
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:30.760
<v Speaker 3>this is not me trying to say, you know, I

985
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:35.159
<v Speaker 3>what happened was well, like I said, I went through

986
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:37.679
<v Speaker 3>some New Age phases, even a Christian new ag face.

987
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 3>But at the end of this, yeah, I don't know

988
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:42.760
<v Speaker 3>if I'm kind of like sitting and I'd like to

989
00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 3>talk to you more about Orthodoxy because I'm sitting between

990
00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:49.760
<v Speaker 3>that and I'm looking at the Roman Catholic stuff Charlotte's

991
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Charlotte recently went back to the traditional Catholic way. I

992
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:57.159
<v Speaker 3>just know that whatever whatever Christianity I want to officially

993
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:02.800
<v Speaker 3>name should be browned in the Apostolic fathers and all

994
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:06.239
<v Speaker 3>of that. So I like the idea. Well, mean, I

995
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know, me and you could talk more about Orthodoxy

996
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:12.440
<v Speaker 3>because I I do think that the Protestant Reformation. I mean,

997
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean the pope was.

998
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Doing some right, some non Christian stuff. So it's like,

999
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:20.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, but I see that the Protestants kind of

1000
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.280
<v Speaker 5>that kind of in some ways is the beginning of

1001
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 5>the move towards all this skepticism and things.

1002
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:31.280
<v Speaker 3>In some ways, you know, it's it's severed the philosophy

1003
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 3>from the devotionalism and so so I don't so you know,

1004
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of like, you don't think I want to

1005
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:41.519
<v Speaker 3>be anything Protestant. So I'm looking at I'm leaning towards orthodoxy,

1006
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 3>but I want to talk to you about some of

1007
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 3>the principles that distinguish.

1008
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, I'd be glad to send you some

1009
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, videos whatever on that. We got a lot

1010
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:53.400
<v Speaker 2>of guys in the discord too. I got about two

1011
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:56.400
<v Speaker 2>thousand people in the Discord that are into that stuff.

1012
00:56:56.440 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 2>So you're welcome in there as well. Somebody talking about

1013
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:04.239
<v Speaker 2>the I mean, there are superchats that you have to

1014
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.679
<v Speaker 2>go to stream labs, guys. I got Demonta's so superchats

1015
00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 2>are only through stream labs. There was another question where

1016
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 2>to go? Where can I take an online Hellenic philosophy. Course,

1017
00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, bro, but you could go to Father

1018
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:26.119
<v Speaker 2>Deacon doctor Anonysis channel because he has extensive lectures on

1019
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Aristotle and I have in my archives, of course, lectures

1020
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:31.880
<v Speaker 2>throughout the entirety of play those republic and many of

1021
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:34.639
<v Speaker 2>the dialogues. So that's the best that I could give

1022
00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 2>you on Hellenic philosophy. I don't know any Hellenic experts,

1023
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:43.639
<v Speaker 2>so sorry, I can't be more help there. Yeah, so

1024
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:46.000
<v Speaker 2>superchats are separate now, it's you have to go to

1025
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.760
<v Speaker 2>stream labs. Stream labs is a separate service from YouTube.

1026
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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, well, all right, thanks John, everybody go to

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00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:54.840
<v Speaker 2>his website. Get that book. I'm sure it's going to

1028
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<v Speaker 2>be great. I will read it, and I'm sure that

1029
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<v Speaker 2>John and I will be talking in the future if

1030
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<v Speaker 2>he wants to. Would you like to do that, John?

1031
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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

1032
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<v Speaker 2>Awesome? Man, Well, thank you very much and thank you

1033
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<v Speaker 2>for coming on. And it was a great shot and

1034
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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to see the track that you're on.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, sir. And real quick, that Twitter handle is

1036
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<v Speaker 3>Dallas professor at professor Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, all right, let's say that again.

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas professor at Professor Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>At Professor Dallas T A O I S T.

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<v Speaker 3>It's inverted like Begin and the Yang. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, dude. So I'll add your

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter to the show descriptions so people can follow you

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter too.

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<v Speaker 3>Very cool. Yeah, let's keep in touch, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm moving forward to absolutely have
