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Speaker 1: H m hmmm, dire wave the scientific method.

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Speaker 2: You cannot justify the scientific method. All right? Welcome John,

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can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. This is Jay's analysis and I have author

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with me tonight. We are joined by John Claizek. Is

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that right? John?

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Speaker 3: Oh Man? You broke up for a second. I got

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a brand new, brand new computer with a bunch more

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gigs in the old one, and I didn't hear you.

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I'm sorry. You introduced me.

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Speaker 2: Can you hear me now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I can hear you now, So you know it's cool.

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Speaker 2: I just started. So John Klaizak joins me. Is that

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how you pronounce it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You got it?

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Speaker 2: Okay. And he is a young pup like me. I

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thought he was going to be an old, crusty dude,

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but he is a young guy like me. And he

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is going to talk about his book. And he wrote

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the book school World Order the Technocraticalization of Corporatized education.

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School World or the Technocraticalization of corporatize Education it almost rhymes.

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And he's going to talk about the occult academic history

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intertwined together, how this leads to transhumanism, the control of

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everybody through education, and you get into some really interesting

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philosophical theological concepts here at natural law, ten commandments, the logos.

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Where do you want to start with? By the way,

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I have the link to your Amazon pages, there is

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there a different pages rather me put in there.

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Speaker 3: You can go to my website and then that'll link

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to Trying Day to get the book. But you know,

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Amazon's fine with me. I mean, you know, you know

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that we make more.

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Speaker 2: Actually Trying Day would be better, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, you know that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, let me I'm sorry, let me find that,

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but I'll add that. What before we get into the book,

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why don't you tell us about how you came to

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write this book?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So how I came to write this book was basically,

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there was a little issue in Illinois where the governor

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basically I saw it as a ployee to privatize the

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education system. And this particular governor had money in privatized schooling,

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so through charge schools, vouchers and things like that, he

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actually has a charter school that he owns. And I

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also saw a bunch of buzzwords pop up. In addition

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to the privatization stuff, so that would be like the workforce, training,

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school to work, cradle to career or different terms they use,

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and then the terminology the buzzwords they use for public

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private partnership, so P twenty councils P sixteen council, which

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is another name for merging the private and the public,

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basically the corporate and the government. And it was basically

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all the stuff that Charlotte Israbet talked about in delivered

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Guming Down of America, and then she did an addendum

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to it where she got into the charter schooling mar

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at once, and I'm a teacher, didn't didn't ever really

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plan to write about education because you know it, didn't

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want to poo poo where I work, try to keep

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a buffer there. But since since one of the departments

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where I work got shut down, I said, well, hey,

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I guess I'll just voice my opinion here. Charlotte saw

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the art basically said you're right on, and then I

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just I just kept building on it and it became

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a book basically awesome.

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Speaker 2: So I've got the better link in there to trying

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today directly, So if youbody's interested to get the book there.

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And also I have stream labs that set up so

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you see the link. Therefore, stream labs if you guys

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want to send a super chat comment. But let's so,

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you dove into philosophy. You went down the route of

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the pheelosoph and you talk about the trivium. You talk

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about the philosophy of education. Right, so everything has a

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philosophy behind it. There's a philosophy of art, there's a

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philosophy of mechanics, there's a philosophy of everything. And you

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that it's the algorithm. They want the algorithm to be God. Okay,

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the measurement can only go so far, so you can't

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measure every single variable okay. So at that point you

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faith okay, into hopefully something that is what called the

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categorical imperative, right, something a priori that's there before you

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to be a priori right, so they have values are presuppositional.

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you to know that, you know, I should treat you

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with the same deference to the Bill of Rights as

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another human being. So you know, it was at that

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Speaker 2: And you're a long ruler if you're gonna measure me, dog.

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So I'm in a silly mood tonight. I hope you

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don't mind.

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Speaker 3: Don't have fun man.

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Speaker 2: Make money though here the audience here doesn't send any

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money unless you're act silly, So.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, you'll have to. And I'm long in the tooth,

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so if you can jump in with some jokes occasionally,

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will balance it all out here. Yeah. So the funny

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and you know what was funny was underneath it was

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that was interesting at the time, so I didn't have

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through this guy, Bruce Gore's lectures. He's a Presbyterian guy.

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History of Philosophy and Christianity together. And that was when

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you know that that that you know the first John right,

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the word, and it's like, so in the beginning was

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the book or the Bible, but you know, we know

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that that's right. We know that the tank commandments in

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the Bible, the Torah things came later. So I was

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like that always confused me. But then when I realized

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that the Greek interpretation had to do with this concept

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of the logos, which is this idea that there was

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a metaphysical principle that is the order to the universe.

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philosophy with revelation and the law. And that's yeah, and

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so that's what basically that's when you started popping up

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your stuff. But you know, for the sake of the book,

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at least trying to have have an agreement that we

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have to have some a priori metaphysics before we start

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using any algorithms, whether it be for learning or elsewise.

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to the trivial method as the means to do that.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I mean I don't think that, uh,

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there's anything inherently magically better about something being privatized or

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something being public, because you can have corruption and either

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to be better than the other the other, but definitely

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when something is completely controlled by either one, you know,

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it becomes kind of a an indoctrination system. So we

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becoming and doctrination system. And you're throwing an interesting angle

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Speaker 3: From start to finish for what un calls lifelong learning.

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so that corporate arm with sort of this collectivist or

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about corporate governance is going to help out, But in

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the communitarian philosophical language with basically using big corporations to

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facilitate it. As far as education goes, what we you

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have the actual privatization of the school itself through charter schools. Okay,

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but by the way, it's not that's let's say corporatization,

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because you could have a private school, like you said,

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we're like a parochial school, and you could have a

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church school. It's much different than a charter school. Charter

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school is a private corporation that also takes public dollars, right,

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so it's subsidized by the government, and there's this incestuous

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then the second layer is basically through the partnerships that

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and that goes all the way through the college level.

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through things like adaptive learning software, socio emotional learning, biofeedback, wearables.

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to scan your DNA. But these are always the private

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companies will basically blur the lines between a public, government

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, so this is like the new phase. Right,

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where they've where they've taken this stuff now, right, because

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she's writing about how skull and bones secret societies out

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of Yale, right, Cia, they had a big role in

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this stuff back in the day, and now it's moving

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private partnerships, and basically she found that it was a

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plan to privatize the schools through public private partnerships facilitated

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or at the time it was basically the skinner box. Okay,

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so operating conditioning stuff. So. And at the time THH.

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Bell was the Secretary of Education. Okay, well, he hands

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it off to somebody called Bill Bennett. Okay, Secretary of

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Education Bill benn.

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it's a virtual online charter school. It's one of the

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largest virtual online charter schools. There are the current Secretary

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of Education, Betsy de Vos. She also was a large

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investor in this company. Peter Field, who was Builderberg Group

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was the speech writer for Bill Bennett and Peter Fiel.

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with DeVos during her first education tour to discuss we

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version of Skinner's Skinner Box, and some of those companies

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the pre citations in my book. So basically, what you're

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in all of these companies are getting a big injection

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and people from Project Best, which which Charlotte. So I

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would say it's pretty much in line with what she

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talked about. If I updated something, it would be my

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look at the actual technology and the eugenics part and

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the transhumanist stuff. That would be the part that I

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Speaker 2: So go into that. What's your update in that in

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that arena?

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Speaker 3: So basically it's on a scale, you know, gradual scale.

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so the adaptive learning software is the first part. Okay.

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it's basically pav lobs dog stuff. It's fancy term for it.

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natural stimulus for Fido is salivation or I'm sorry, it's

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a natural response to the natural stimulus of the foo. Okay.

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If you associate something artificial with the food, it's like

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a bell. You can get the dog to salivate in

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response to the bell stimulus.

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complex algorithms, make the stimulus the lesson, make the response

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to student outcome, put it on a machine. Skinner had

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analog stuff, so he didn't have digital windows and computers.

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got some pictures in it, and you push this button

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and it turns the wheel and you see a different picture.

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a real tape. Might be multiple choice, might be short answer.

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you describe your answer response to the stimulus, and then

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based on how well you do, it might give you

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a more challenging curriculum next, or it might remediate you. Okay,

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you actually had some that were designed to dispense chocolate

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if you've got a correct answer, so that they actually

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wanted to add the reward and punishment system to it.

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You take that, you change the gears and the wheels

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and the tape and put it on digital windows. You

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got adaptive learning software. The idea is that it personalizes

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your learning by tracking your stimulus response algorithms. Right, and

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so in order to personalize that, it's basically data mining

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the thinking part of your brain. Well. To supplement that,

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they've got something called socio emotional learning. So this is

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where we're going to data mind the feeling part of you.

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funded by Bill Gates, or they're going to use something

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called Effectiva, which can use look at EEG's or facial

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recognition brain codes a Chinese company. It puts little headbands

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on you and it measures your EEG. This is telling

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the teachers are you paying attention? Do you like the lesson?

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that's the feeling part. Then the third part is what

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I mentioned is the precision education where they want to

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look at your DNA and then before you even get

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on the adaptive learning or the socio emotional learning, they

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want to say, well, your DNA says you're really gonna

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go X far. So you know, we're all gonna give

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you the remedial program to begin with. We're not gonna

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spend money on that other one, right because.

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running the short bus, but you're not gonna be riding

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the bus. Because is this all at home? Is this

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like I mean, is this for a class room or

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other classrooms going away?

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Speaker 3: The classrooms are going away, dude, because I know that

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they're not letting us go back anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And you know if we do like this is what

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I think that if they let us go back, you know,

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if we can't, we can't push back against all this stuff.

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to class basically for labs and things that you'd have

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to be hands on in person for. So anything else

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that you can read, write, or you know, any other

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exercises you can do, it would have been on paper

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and pan or digit otherwise digitally. They're going to do that,

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basically do what they call distance learning online.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I had a when I read Jacques Attalie

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and my Global Elite book series. He said in his

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book that there would be no more classrooms, but basically

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maybe not right now, but in the near future, there

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would be basically just a little bitchy robot rolling around

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your house bitching at you, and that little bitch bot

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would be teaching you everything as well as being your

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may and your butler and who knows what else, probably

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something worse. But it's gonna be educating your kids too,

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So you're gonna have a little bitch bot teaching your

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kids who knows what, brainwashing your kids. And I mean

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he was basically saying that there would be no more classrooms.

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You're not gonna go to some university or some school.

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You're just gonna be sitting in your home, you know,

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home learning, distance education for everybody. And I noticed when

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I was doing graduate work a few years ago, they

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were already implementing that in the university. They were like,

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you know, phasing out people actually going to classes, and

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they were constantly encouraging people just sign up online, just

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take this class online. Just do it online. Don't even

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do the you know, the traditional model of classes.

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based education. Okay, so the traditional model of school is basically, well,

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we largely use semesters. Okay, it might be sixteen weeks,

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you might be blocked, might be you know, eight periods whatever,

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but you had semesters, and by the time you get

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semester ended, you had to have all of your stuff

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completed and relatively mastered at an academic level. So competency

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based education says basically two things. One is that you know, uh,

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based on all the stuff I just told you about

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data mining and algorithms, right, some people just let them

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get competent. Don't worry about them getting really smarter. Or nothing.

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Just let them get good enough to pull some gears,

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push some buttons, you know, and do their you know,

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mop some floors, whatever it might be. The other one

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is that you know, some people require different amounts of

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time for their competence, right, and so what they want

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to do is eliminate the semester period, okay. And so

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what that means is maybe you take a little bit longer,

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maybe you take maybe you're faster, right, maybe you finish

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it quickly. And this is where they're talking about it's personalized.

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all of it. In addition to you know, the data

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mining of the other technologies, the CBE competency based education

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is saying that that basically, you know, take your time, okay.

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And so it's on something called subscription basis. Well, who

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can do a subscription basis? It's not a building because look,

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if we've got limited amounts of classes, you know, with

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limited amounts of seats, and you want to take three years,

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you can't be in here for we want to get

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a new thirty people in this room or whatever it

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might be. So the CBE facilitates that and the distance

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learning facilitates the CBE, and they're basically encouraging it now

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because look, I argued, I'm trying to you know, I'm

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a teacher and I'm trying to do what I can

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to at least slow this stuff down, you know, And

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I'm I'm trying to tell the department that, look, let's

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have let's have synchronous virtual if we if we have

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to do distance, let's have synchronous like me and you

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are doing right now, Jay, Like the students would have

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to all be logged in and I do get my

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let you know, I have hiteboard back here or something,

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questions and you know, same exact model, except you know,

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we're just through through a screen until hopefully until you

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get back. They say no, everybody wants to say no, no,

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just make it easier on the kids, let them, let

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them take their time, and let them just you know,

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they want to turn it in late, turning late. They

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want to turn it in early, turn in early. So

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the problem with that, though, is this, I can't keep

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up with that, like you know what I mean, Like,

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you know, if I had stuff turned in on time,

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I know, okay, I gotta get this many papers created

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by the end of the next two weeks before the

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next papers come in, and I can manage the flow.

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I got people turning it extra stuff. I got people

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turning it like, I mean, it's constant flow. And some kids,

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you know, they're night ourls. They want questions midnight. I

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can't answer questions at midnight. So the adaptive learning software

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is right, also goes along with it, because that's what's

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going to facilitate twenty four hour instant feedback at your.

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Speaker 2: Wow. But I'm sure they're selling that like that's a

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good thing, Like, oh, it's adaptive and so it's going

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to help you learn better and quicker and all this stuff.

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But I mean this is all just totally for control.

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I mean, that's the thing is that I think they

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had to they I think my view is that they

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did a public education thing for a long time so

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that then they could turn around and privatize everything. Right,

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you see this with pretty much everything else, Like they'll

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do a public phase quickly talks about this with the

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banking phases, they'll do like a phase of FDR socializing things,

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and then they'll privatize it and then they'll go back

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to the socializing and they'll privatize. It's like this back

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and forth step that they do for more and more control.

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So I'm not disagreeing with the thesis of your book, but

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why don't we step back a little bit and because

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you mentioned some interesting philosophy that I do take interest

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in here. You mentioned the natural law, metaphysics, Mortimer Adler's

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approach to the Great Books and C. S. Lewis uh

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And then we want to get to the Daoist stuff,

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because that's your that's your title you use is Dallas professor.

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How do you how was there connection to to Taoism

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and the logos here? There's actually a famous Orthodox book

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by saraphrom Rose, The Dow of Christ, where he connects

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the logos to the doll. But can you talk a

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little bit about that.

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Speaker 3: I can do my best, you could probably do better,

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but I doubt that. What thing is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you're good.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, I mean, I know the one is that

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you correct me if I'm wrong, you know, But in

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I believe the Chinese interpretation is in the beginning was

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the dow. So, I mean, that's one of the first

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literal ways. But you know I should say that before

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I went through different phases. Uh, I went through kind

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of a New Age fate. I went through a couple

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of New Age phases. Okay. And I was really into

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the e ching and that's not Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I right, I never went that route. So you can

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you can tell me about that stuff, okay.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So so with so so with Dallas and you know, okay,

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so with the eaching, you've got like show my tattoos.

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When I did this because I'm a martial artist as well.

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Speaker 2: I watched that show Lost, remember Lost, and they had

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the eaching that was the Dharma project.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen a lot of Lost.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you didn't miss anything, but go ahead.

475
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: Uh so. So so that's so, it's so yeah, So

476
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:31,880
the Dallas Professor is a couple of things. I had

477
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,880
a friend that used to say he was into Bruce

478
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,920
Lee and he was like, that's you. You're the Dallas

479
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,799
You're the Dallas Priest. And I was like, you know

480
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:39,480
that he's the one that got me into the ea ching.

481
00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:42,799
Uh And then I'm into martial arts still, and then

482
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,279
you know it worked for you know the Christian things.

483
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:46,680
I was like, okay, I like this, you know, and

484
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,400
then you know, the idea of the low the logie.

485
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:52,359
You know, there there is truth in the dow, in

486
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,480
the eaching, and and you know, even the New Age stuff,

487
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:57,720
you know it might come to a wrong conclusion. There's

488
00:28:57,759 --> 00:28:59,920
lots of truth in that. So so I also want

489
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,519
to use the Dallas Professor as a bridge. You know,

490
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,119
not each you medical like, you know, everything's the same,

491
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,039
but in building a bridge from the log yeah, and

492
00:29:11,119 --> 00:29:13,359
so so with the EA ching. You know, the idea

493
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:15,359
is this, if you ever seen the Yin yang, the

494
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,279
ideas you know that the universe is created of two

495
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:21,839
opposing forces is you know, kind of dialectical hegelion. It's

496
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,599
the idea of uh. You know, Yin is anything that's weak, soft, passive,

497
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,319
et cetera. Yang is anything it's hard, strong, active, Okay, right, uh.

498
00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:36,039
And in martial arts, you know there's soft styles based

499
00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:39,359
on yin and then there's hard styles based on yong. Okay.

500
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:42,079
And neither principle is necessarily right or wrong. You can

501
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:47,079
be using for different things, but underneath it all, there's

502
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,240
there is an understanding that there is an order to nature.

503
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:54,440
So around the yin yang you'll have eight elements. Okay,

504
00:29:54,519 --> 00:29:57,319
there's three side lines that's having three broken lines as Earth.

505
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,920
Then there's I won't explain that, the combinations, but it's

506
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,119
the rest is fire, water, uh, wind, thunder lake and mount.

507
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,839
Speaker 2: Right the magic, the gathering stuff right throwing down them

508
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,279
cards win fire, magic may just I'm just just you

509
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:15,720
know what's.

510
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,599
Speaker 3: Funny is I had a card system of it, like

511
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,000
it was. It was cool. I still have it. It's

512
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:24,640
it's so it had visual So so each of these you're.

513
00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: Like the only you're the only magic the gathering dude

514
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,279
who fights in the octagon. I can tell you that

515
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:29,720
right now.

516
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: Yea, no magic the gathering though, but uh and I

517
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:39,839
never no, it's all good. So so with those with

518
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,039
those cards or okay, so the cards have images and

519
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:46,920
they represent the symbol like what it means Heaven interacting

520
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,359
with Earth or water interest something like that. So it

521
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,400
helps you visualize and meditating stuff like that. But they

522
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,319
used to just cast these yarrow stocks to get like

523
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,680
what they call divination. So what's what's interesting about it

524
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,559
is there's a there's a rational component, there's an anti

525
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,400
rational component. So the rational component literally becomes a basis

526
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,960
for binary code. As a German mathematician by the name

527
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,799
of Ludwig Vond something I always forget it, but he

528
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,279
basically took the idea of broken lines and slide lines

529
00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,240
and just made zeros and ones. And that's the concept

530
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:20,839
of binary code, and that you can basically express anything

531
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,480
with bionary. That's the rational component. The non rational or

532
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:27,799
mystical component is you could cast those stalks, you could

533
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,559
get the symbol of whatever, the mountain and lake, and

534
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,160
you could sit there and there's a little oracle poem

535
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,400
that goes and that you meditate on that, you know,

536
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,279
based on what your question is, what should I do

537
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:39,680
with my marriage or my money or something, and then

538
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,359
it's supposed to give you this this on this this

539
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:43,319
secret massacre.

540
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, the characteristic universalis right. That's the lib Nets the

541
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:56,039
philosopher leib Nets looked to the I chain to help

542
00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,640
develop this idea of a universal characteristic language that would

543
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,279
later be influential on computers.

544
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, I sometimes think of you know,

545
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:07,759
because I teach rhetoric. I've I've tried to come up

546
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:11,720
with ways that it parallels, you know, Aristotelian logic, which

547
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:13,640
has to have a subject, you know, anything coherent has

548
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,680
to have a subject. In a predicit or it has

549
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,160
to have reasoning and evidence, it has to have general

550
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,960
and specific, it has to have right every otherwise it's

551
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,000
just an abstraction or it's just a data point, right,

552
00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:26,480
And so for for meaning to come there is so

553
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,559
you know, that's kind of a digression. Uh, but I

554
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,160
I've been I've wanted to, and one of these days,

555
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,799
I hope I will write an article called uh Bruce

556
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,680
Lee or a gee kund argument against post modernism, and

557
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,039
so brucely he wrote one of one of the most

558
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:48,319
famous things he wrote was the Dow of g kun do. Okay,

559
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720
what it means is the dow is the way and

560
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:54,920
then ge kuhn basically is the intercepting fish. It was

561
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,920
intercepting fist. It's a type of technique. It's a stop.

562
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,000
It's it's not important to what I want to make here.

563
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,880
The last word is dough, which is the way. So

564
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,240
if you take that literal transition to English, it's the

565
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:09,039
way of the intercepting fist of the way, or it's

566
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,119
the way of the way of the intercepting fists. And

567
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:13,880
it's like, why are there two ways in it? Because

568
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:18,880
dow is like logos, the order of the universe and

569
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,319
Doe is like your individual expression of it. Bruce was

570
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:26,400
all about saying breaking tradition and classical tradition with kung

571
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,880
fu and saying, look, you don't have to just do

572
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,039
it this one way. You could mix it with boxing.

573
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,720
And he was largely the founding father of mixed martial

574
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:38,640
arts because he was always mixing the style the people. Yeah,

575
00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:41,960
Bruce Lee, Yeah, you know, he never actually fought or anything,

576
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,799
but you know he was his philosophy, his Brusley's fighting

577
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:49,519
message was very influential, and he was a philosopher by

578
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,160
the way. He was into Spinoza Washington State. He was

579
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,799
like he was.

580
00:33:52,799 --> 00:34:01,079
Speaker 2: He was a yeah, yeah, interesting, see you're teaching me.

581
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: Okay, you would be interested just to read the philosophy section. No, no,

582
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,960
he's got a philosophy section. And you probably have just

583
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,960
wonder just reading that part. Oh dude, did I did

584
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,280
it go out?

585
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: Did you just for a second there, What were you

586
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,320
saying about philosophy?

587
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: I was I was just saying that, you know, you

588
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,760
would you would be interested to read his doll jeep

589
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,440
wundo if you can get your hands on it. It's

590
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,159
a quickly not necessarily there's a bunch of fighting uh

591
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,039
manuals in their diagnams. But the first small section is

592
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:34,280
his philosophy relates. But so what he's saying is this,

593
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,880
Bruce was all about you can do your own thing,

594
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,840
you know, and tall guys gonna do stuff different than

595
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,199
the short guy. And that makes sense. But it makes

596
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,599
sense because they're using the natural presuppositional order of their body.

597
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,039
There's a natural order to it. That's the doll part.

598
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,239
Bruce said, you can't just do whatever you want to

599
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,800
say that's my style because I made it up. It

600
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,239
should it has to actually align with the physics and

601
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,599
the geometry of the human body relative to leverage and

602
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,119
distancing and speed. Right, And so it's still as much

603
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,559
as he was, you know, very you know, I guess

604
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:11,000
in some ways you might say postmodern because he was

605
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:15,119
all about mixing everything together. He still was very classical

606
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,519
in the sense that there is and there is some

607
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,360
basic a priori metaphysical principles to fighting that everybody is

608
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,599
going to have to follow, regardless of how creative you

609
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:25,000
want to get.

610
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:29,519
Speaker 2: That's interesting. Yeah, I've never even thought about that. Uh

611
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:32,599
so is the five finger death punch that Beatrix Kiddo

612
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,920
does to kill Bill. Is that real or not?

613
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 3: I don't. You know, there might be some esoteric people

614
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,400
that will tell you, but I've never seen anything like that.

615
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: You see those YouTube videos of like shollling masters like

616
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,519
doing this and people fall over like Benny hen or something.

617
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: Oh man, some of that stuff just totally fake stuff.

618
00:35:55,639 --> 00:35:57,920
I want to say, it's the omen right, here's the

619
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,519
one thing. I can't remember the guy. But you know,

620
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,599
let's put it this way. Most of the people that

621
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:04,920
are really into that stuff, they don't spark a lot.

622
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:07,320
They don't like getting punched in the face, you know

623
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,320
what I mean. It's up a bunch of a bunch

624
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,719
of conn right, A little bit a little bit some

625
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,199
of them. You know, I don't want to say there's

626
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,960
nothing to cheat or my you know, over matter.

627
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: But well, I watched a bunch of videos talking about

628
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,679
how in the martial arts world there's a lot of conment.

629
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000
So I don't know, those videos made a good argument

630
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,840
that there's a lot of like, uh, the story of

631
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,320
Frank Duke's remember the story is that is that made up?

632
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,079
Do you think he's making all that stuff up?

633
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: It's pretty verifiable that he's making it all he's contradicted himself.

634
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,960
He said things about his Kuma te It was like

635
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,400
if he fought that many people's like that, you couldn't

636
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,519
fit it into that many days, like even the number

637
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:49,079
of times, you know, minutes in a day, and you

638
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,280
couldn't do it. Yeah.

639
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: I beat up as many dudes as there are minutes

640
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:54,920
in a day.

641
00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm not into beating people up or whatever,

642
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,480
but it is, uh, what you get out of getting

643
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,880
punched in the face and being in that is does

644
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,320
teach you about natural law?

645
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 3: Because you can't. I mean maybe some people do, but

646
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,199
I don't know how you can lie to yourself after

647
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,840
you get in the face. You know what, you know what?

648
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,559
You got punched in the face, right, so it teaches

649
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:21,559
you that, right.

650
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, let's bring it back to philosophy.

651
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: So now, sometimes what did you have to submit to?

652
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:35,639
Speaker 2: What got you looking at natural law? Ten Commandments, Old Testament?

653
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:37,840
How did that tie into this?

654
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: So I so natural law I kind of pulled in

655
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:53,599
as basically the government its expression in our constitutional government

656
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,559
read it didn't go natural law old testing necessarily, although

657
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:01,960
obviously those conds that do derived from that. But I

658
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:07,199
was largely trying to synthesize some system of a priori

659
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,400
metaphysics with or or grounded in how we see it

660
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,519
expressed in the Bill of Rights basically, right, and so

661
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:20,320
this idea of you know, property, self defense expression, right.

662
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:25,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, but and you see that that's tied to you

663
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,119
think the trust the trivium actually is intimately connected to that,

664
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,840
you think.

665
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: Well, I I found that it was the the method

666
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:43,280
that Christians used to teach not just the philosophy but

667
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,960
also the civics right during the time of the Apostolic

668
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:50,000
Fathers and things like that, or not that they wouldn't

669
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,159
call it the trivium yet, but you know, some people

670
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:56,440
would have said it goes back to Isocrates and play.

671
00:38:56,519 --> 00:38:59,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, ancient pedagogy, right.

672
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,199
Speaker 3: So well, but the idea of using grammar, logic and

673
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:10,239
rhetoric and that there is truth, that the names you

674
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,639
give to the categories of reality actually means something, right,

675
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:19,239
And so you know, I find that to be maybe

676
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,719
implicit in the trivian in the ways that it has

677
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,679
always been used, whether you know, before Christians after.

678
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, modern philosophy is all predicated on there being

679
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:36,639
no metaphysics. So for the most part, I mean ninety

680
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:39,360
five percent of it is predicated on that. So I

681
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,760
think you're stumbled onto one of the key components of

682
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,880
what I've tried to stress for a long time, which

683
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,159
is that there's absolutely a priori assumptions about metaphysics in

684
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:53,119
anybody's worldview, because it's impossible, it's impossible to have a view,

685
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:55,960
even if your view is anti metaphysics, that's still a

686
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:59,639
version of metaphysics. There's no way to have a completely neutral,

687
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,280
completely agnostic position. It's just not possible when people trick

688
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,119
themselves into thinking that they can have these kinds of views.

689
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:10,199
So you said in your email that you were curious

690
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,800
to hear my thoughts on your historical analysis, which is

691
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,559
why I'm asking those questions. And yeah, I think this

692
00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:19,719
is really this is fascinating what you're saying. I never

693
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,280
would have thought to tie it into the world of

694
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,960
martial arts and all that, but yeah, I mean what

695
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,119
we see is that all over this world, you know,

696
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:30,119
really operates at whatever branch or level of reality that

697
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:34,519
we're talking about, it all operates on consistent patterns and principles.

698
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,480
And that would be the true. That would be true

699
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:38,719
for warfare as much as for education, as much as

700
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,119
for debate, right, I do a lot of debates. Debate

701
00:40:41,159 --> 00:40:43,719
works on the same principles like you might find in

702
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,920
the octagon that's never been in the octagon. But I

703
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,880
do know how to win a debate. So what's next.

704
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,840
Let's see, let's talk about tell us about the what's

705
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,519
the argumentation of the book? Like, is it like a

706
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:01,679
giant book? Is it a short book. I've not read

707
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:03,679
the book, so I don't know what's in there yet.

708
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,440
I do look forward to reading the book. You piqued

709
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,840
my interest. But take us through the flow of the book,

710
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,199
if you would, Okay.

711
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: So I mean basically it is two components. One is

712
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,760
I guess you could say three or maybe you can

713
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,920
say four. Now I sound unclear. So there's two big components.

714
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,239
One is the privatization corporatization of education. We kind of

715
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,639
touched on that. And the second one is how big

716
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:29,320
tech is going to facilitate that and move us towards

717
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,840
something called transhumanism or posthumanism. Okay, And so it basically

718
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,519
walks through Well I should I should have mentioned, you know,

719
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:41,199
you said earlier about how they privatize. They go big

720
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:44,119
government first in order to privatize later. That was basically

721
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,960
what I had said about. I used the Hegeleyan dialectic

722
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,519
to say, you know, because the reason why my department

723
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:52,400
got shut down was it was ninety percent funded by

724
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,719
federal funds, and we couldn't get federal funds because we

725
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,360
can't get your federal funds if you don't pass a

726
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,000
state budget. Well, if we had had ninety percent of

727
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,679
our money come from thee we could have you know,

728
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:02,760
we could have done our own thing. So you know,

729
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,280
you make them dependent on the government, then later you

730
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,440
can go, oh you take that away. Yeah, and then

731
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,039
they come in right, uh, and then your idea about

732
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:13,360
you know how that's the cycle. You know, that's a

733
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,880
back and forth cycle. That's something else I talked about recently,

734
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,400
which is, you know, some people called disaster capitalism or

735
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:22,840
creative destruction, which Joseph Stumper called his idea of economics. Okay,

736
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:26,079
but I walked through that, and then I look at

737
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:31,039
how that is geared into changing academics to workforce training, okay,

738
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:34,400
and I talk about how the different technologies will facilitate

739
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,679
that through the data mining of the thinking with the

740
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,400
dept of Learning, software feeling with socio emotional learning, and

741
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,039
then basically the body, the genetics with precision education, and

742
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,119
you might find it interesting, and I see that that

743
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:49,039
has an analog with right your ethos, logos, pathhouse, right,

744
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:52,559
you're will, you're you're feeling, and you're thinking. Okay, And

745
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,280
then after that, basically they'll take all of that data,

746
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:58,960
feed it into machine learning and deep learning to build AI.

747
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,880
And when I can teach you and learn faster than

748
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,519
than the student and the teacher combined, then we'll have

749
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:09,519
to merge with it, like like Elon Musk says, you'll

750
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:11,079
have to get his neural link, you know. And that's

751
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:12,840
why he's doing it, because you know, he's trying to

752
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,840
take care of he doesn't, you know, don't just not

753
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,119
build the stuff that's gonna take over he's you know,

754
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,440
we'll build this other thing and it'll all be great

755
00:43:20,519 --> 00:43:23,519
as if it's not the goal. So that's that's where

756
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:25,880
the book ends. And then the solutions has to do

757
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,239
with well, there's five points. One is you know, local control,

758
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,440
public control. That means, you know, keep public separate from private,

759
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:36,239
keep corporate separate from government. You know. The second one

760
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,920
was abolished the psychological method of conditioning as a pedagogy

761
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,599
as a philosophy of education. The third was student data privacy,

762
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:47,159
to the extent that you have to actually use these

763
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:49,519
technologies or any kind. I mean, we're using TEX so

764
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:53,000
I'm not a lud height necessarily I might become one,

765
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:56,800
if you know, if they keep going in this other direction.

766
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Can be dressed so like an Amish dude.

767
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 3: I'll dig a dirt hole and sit in. And my

768
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,800
friend used to say, what do you want me to

769
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,159
live in a dirt hole? You know, if the option is,

770
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,119
you know, some of the stuff I talked about and

771
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:12,760
my book dirt hole, please, I'll take a dirt hole please.

772
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:16,320
So uh then then the last you have to do

773
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,559
with the metaphysics, so one is you know, actually looking

774
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:22,960
at the philosophy of metaphysics, you know, and you know,

775
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,119
I'm happy to have a debate about that in the

776
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:27,800
academic sphere. At least let's talk about it instead of

777
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:33,000
doing deconstructionism and skepticism and phenomenology and performance identity and

778
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,719
write everything. It's anti logos literally right when they call

779
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,760
the deconstruction and you know, they say you're logo centric,

780
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,280
like that's some kind of pejorative or something, and and

781
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,280
and then grounded and the method for that would be

782
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,320
classical trivium, right, because you know the trivian presupposed is

783
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,159
look that if you name something, that the logic follows

784
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:56,320
based on the name you gave it, Meaning there is

785
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,719
a real relationship between the name you give something, uh,

786
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,800
and what's that and the object that it refers to,

787
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,519
the thing in itself? Right, it's not just nominalism, right,

788
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:07,320
Otherwise you know the low the logic part can be

789
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,280
ad hoc. Okay, And so that that's that's how I

790
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:12,800
that's how I saw that go to air. But that's

791
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,440
that's the arc of the book. It's about three hundred

792
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,239
and fifty pages, and then there's another one hundred some

793
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,000
pages of citations, a couple of diagrams, stuff like that.

794
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: So let's back up to the genetics DNA part. How

795
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,800
does this gonna play This sounds like gatica. How is

796
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,920
this going to play into it?

797
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,559
Speaker 3: Okay? So obviously this is the eugenics part. This is

798
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,880
this is the beginning of the eugens you know, I

799
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,440
see you know, so eugenics used to have this part

800
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,960
would be called race hygiene. There was also mental hygiene,

801
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,199
and you could put that under the category of the

802
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,719
adaptive learning software and the social emotional learning stuff. Okay,

803
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:52,280
but it basically comes out of the Bell Curve stuff.

804
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,320
It largely refers to IQ. There's a guy named Robert Kloman,

805
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,760
and he wants to give you quote a learning chip

806
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,199
that basically tells you what your you know, IQ propensity

807
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,320
is maybe do you have learning disabilities? And he's gonna

808
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,000
cap you based on that. Well, Robert Kloman is just

809
00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:13,079
one of many people cited in the Bell Curve, Okay.

810
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,119
And you know, if you've ever actually read the Bell

811
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Curve or you ever just skimmed through the citation, there's

812
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,480
a big there's a big host of people there that

813
00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:26,159
not only basically cite the old eugenic statistics, but I

814
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,719
mean they basically say stuff like you should sterilize black people,

815
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,960
you should sterilize brown people, et cetera. Uh. And so

816
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,079
that's literally the data that the stuff is based on,

817
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,599
or it's certainly the philosophy that it's based on. So

818
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,880
h it ties it. So where's the corporate aspect come in?

819
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,159
How does the precision education come to? Well, the way

820
00:46:50,199 --> 00:46:53,840
that they're refining those algorithms is basically through companies like

821
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,280
twenty three in me, right, so when you go to

822
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,320
twenty three and me, you know, when you give them

823
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,119
your DNA, they do your little ethnic lineage or whatever.

824
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,280
They also have other things that if you've ever seen commercials,

825
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,639
they're like, oh, they've got new tests for this disease

826
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:12,960
and that disease, and one of them has to do

827
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,880
with IQ okay. And you know if you look at

828
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,639
if you actually look at what they find and what

829
00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:22,639
people you know, it's not the ratio or the correlation

830
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,039
or probability is not that high, okay. And what I

831
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:28,199
mean is this this gets us back to the problem

832
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:31,400
of empiricism. All this stuff is based on induction, which

833
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,280
is based basically correlation. If you look at stuff like

834
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,159
skin color and hair and eye color, you know that

835
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,000
stuff's pretty easy. There's almost you know, there's a very

836
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:45,440
high correlation between how you can predict it. You know.

837
00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:47,480
So like Mendel did this thing with the p's. You know,

838
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:49,639
if you ever remember the Punnett square, right, you had

839
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:52,119
a different little square with big letter, little letter the

840
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,159
different genes and oh, this is the this is the

841
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,480
percentage or the rate at which these genes will be

842
00:47:56,519 --> 00:48:00,480
passed with certain phenotypes. They can do that pretty accurate.

843
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:04,400
Okay with IQ, I A would get the number mixed up.

844
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,440
It's either fifty or five hundred. Either ones big to

845
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:13,280
me that they say refer to your genetic IQ. And

846
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,239
then the percentage of the efficacy it's not ninety percent,

847
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,119
like you know, some of that stuff is can be

848
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,119
upwards to ninety percent. Some of this other stuff is

849
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:24,599
in the fifties, sixties, forties, right, you know IQ was

850
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:27,239
in that range. So you know, I know there's some

851
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,960
people that have strong feelings, but I'm not saying that.

852
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,360
You know, there's no physiological capacity to intelligence. Obviously there's

853
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,760
people on the spectrum and you can have brain damage.

854
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,360
You're not saying that, But you know what they kind

855
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,320
of like with some of the other models we've been

856
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,599
seeing lately. I know you like to be careful about

857
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:48,119
what's your reference on your show. People know what I'm

858
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:51,480
talking about, right, Those models can be very inaccurate and

859
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:54,480
they might change right in the meantime, they've been treating

860
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,039
you based on an inaccurate model. So so that's that's

861
00:48:58,079 --> 00:48:59,679
the DNA precision ed park.

862
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:07,159
Speaker 2: Wow. So they would have basically uh stored in terms

863
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:12,119
of the data on you what your propensities and possibilities

864
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:15,800
and potentialities are from the outset, and that would determine

865
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,320
the specific feedback loop that they put you into. Is

866
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:19,960
that what you're saying.

867
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not just for you know, so it

868
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,400
was right for workforce training.

869
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 2: Oh, this is education for anything.

870
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also for pre crime and things like that.

871
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,480
So you know, they got to discipline you while you're

872
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,920
in school. So one of the things that you have.

873
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,679
Speaker 2: A propensity to be a damn thief?

874
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, you act up.

875
00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: Horses. You are going to be stealing crayons and.

876
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: Ship or jay. You're too much of a class clown.

877
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,960
You can't. We can't give you the academic route. You're

878
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,159
cracking too many jokes.

879
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: I was clown. I won. Yes, I was clown.

880
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,599
Speaker 3: I was too. I was also class uh, suspensions and

881
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:09,159
other stuff not good in school until I went to college.

882
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:10,079
Speaker 2: Interesting.

883
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was gonna mention real quick, was that?

884
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

885
00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: So with through the public private partnerships, what I saw

886
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,039
was when you see some of these counsels, it's like, well,

887
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:21,239
there was a mental health counselor on here, there was

888
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,960
a there was a health and Human services director, or

889
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,360
there's criminal justice person or you know, in addition to

890
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,559
work for the Chamber of Commerce. And you're going like, oh,

891
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,760
so they're going to take all the data from the

892
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,519
student learning and they're going to use it not just

893
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:39,480
for education meaning workforce training, they're going to use it

894
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:41,719
for health care, and they're going to use it for

895
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:47,400
criminal justice basically pre crime and uh, you know, eugenics, right,

896
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,599
I mean that's you know, you're talking about big data

897
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:54,599
controlling your health. Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Sorry, no.

898
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: It's okay. We got a statement from Conway. He sends

899
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,519
ten dollars. He says, if you could read only one

900
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:03,480
book on the new world order, technocracy, transhumanism, what would

901
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,159
you recommend. You can't just read one book. You gotta

902
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,159
read two. You gotta read John's book, and you got

903
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,400
to read my book because part two of my book

904
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:13,679
is all about transhumanism in Hollywood and how Hollywood has

905
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:17,840
promoted that. But aside from John's book, in my book,

906
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,960
is there a book that stands out to you that

907
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:23,639
really enlightened you to the transhumanist stuff.

908
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: To the transhumanists stuff, Ray kurthwell stuff, I all three intelligent,

909
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,599
age of intelligent machines, Age of spiritual machines and the

910
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:38,000
singularity is near. You can you can do it, you know,

911
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,719
you can just dig through the index. You know, they're

912
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,920
pretty thick books, I mean, and you can see though

913
00:51:42,199 --> 00:51:45,360
that it's a consistent message throughout and you can see

914
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,760
that most a lot of those predictions are pretty accurate.

915
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,960
I mean, as far as the timelines the game, right, yeah,

916
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,360
if as far as transhumanism, that's that's what I would

917
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,239
say for those.

918
00:51:57,679 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: Well, we've gone for a while. Do you want is

919
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,079
there any other aspects of the book you want to highlight?

920
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,559
We've gone for about an hour. I've been keeping my

921
00:52:04,639 --> 00:52:06,679
interviews to about an hour now, So is there anything

922
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:07,519
else you want to hit on?

923
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,039
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I think we hit everything pretty good. Yeah,

924
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:12,639
it's good.

925
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,199
Speaker 2: Well, education is key. I mean that's where they really

926
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,719
focus on, you know, younger age to brainwash them into

927
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,679
the system, I mean, from womb to tomb basically. So

928
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,760
you're not just talking about, like, you know, education at

929
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,239
a youth stage. You're talking about full on lifetime education,

930
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,199
which I think a lot of people don't understand and

931
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,880
that I totally forgot that was a u n things

932
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,840
to you know, lifelong education and all that and so

933
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,719
that's what we're looking at. Here is all the stuff

934
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,440
that I cover in the Global Elite book series. John

935
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:48,280
is looking at here in terms of his education background

936
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,760
and saying that this is what this is what's coming right,

937
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,679
it's literal brave, new world level stuff. So, do you

938
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,760
have a website you want me to direct people to

939
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,639
or is it just to get the book?

940
00:53:01,079 --> 00:53:04,599
Speaker 3: Oh? So so it's school World ordered dot info is

941
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my website, and okay, let me have that. It's got

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my interviews and links to my articles. Oh, it's got

943
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all my it's got basically my entire bibliography online. Uh,

944
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you know with all the links everything that I could

945
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link gotcha.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here it is. Let me add that. I'll add

947
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it to the show description and the here to the

948
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chat for everybody. So yeah, we got up to almost

949
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three hundred live tonight. So we had a good audience.

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Thank you everybody, and again the link is there to

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get the book. Uh to let me add his website

952
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and you guys can reach out to him if you

953
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want to ask him questions or if you want to

954
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do you have do you want to take some questions

955
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from the audience if we have any questions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be happy to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anybody we have one super chat, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: No, I was just gonna throw on my Twitter and

959
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we'll do it at the end. Go questions please, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You might have any questions. We'll let him field your questions.

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He's the Taoist professor and his book is School World Order,

962
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The Technocraticalization of Corporatized Education. It rolls off the tongue

963
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like molasses. Hey Jay, my grandma's cousin was Rosemary woodruff

964
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Leary's wife. Wow, well, I just covered Tim Leary in

965
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the last Elite book Talk. So I hope that y'all

966
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aren't offended. I hope that y'all still love me, because

967
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I love y'all. Don't get offended. Everybody gets so offended

968
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so easily. What's the quest? All right? So we got

969
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some questions coming in just at me. If you want

970
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to ask a question for me or John, y'all are

971
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cheap tonight. We only got one super chat from our

972
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friend what was his name, Conway Twitty's Conway Twittys Glider,

973
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and we gave him a book recommendation. So a bunch

974
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of cheap o's who don't want to ask no questions,

975
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what is wrong with you? I'm just kidding, you know.

976
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I love y'all. People saying stupid names in the chat.

977
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We love you too. I love y'all. I don't see

978
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any questions. Well, no questions, John, Thank you very much.

979
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It was an awesome interview. Well, here's a question. Do

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you mind some questions? Here's the rolling in.

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Speaker 3: Do you mind.

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Speaker 2: This guy says, are you a Christian?

983
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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, yes, sir. I mean I you know I

984
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this is not me trying to say, you know, I

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what happened was well, like I said, I went through

986
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some New Age phases, even a Christian new ag face.

987
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But at the end of this, yeah, I don't know

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if I'm kind of like sitting and I'd like to

989
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talk to you more about Orthodoxy because I'm sitting between

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that and I'm looking at the Roman Catholic stuff Charlotte's

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Charlotte recently went back to the traditional Catholic way. I

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just know that whatever whatever Christianity I want to officially

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name should be browned in the Apostolic fathers and all

994
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of that. So I like the idea. Well, mean, I

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don't know, me and you could talk more about Orthodoxy

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because I I do think that the Protestant Reformation. I mean,

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I mean the pope was.

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Speaker 5: Doing some right, some non Christian stuff. So it's like,

999
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you know, but I see that the Protestants kind of

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that kind of in some ways is the beginning of

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the move towards all this skepticism and things.

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Speaker 3: In some ways, you know, it's it's severed the philosophy

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from the devotionalism and so so I don't so you know,

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I'm kind of like, you don't think I want to

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be anything Protestant. So I'm looking at I'm leaning towards orthodoxy,

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but I want to talk to you about some of

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the principles that distinguish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I'd be glad to send you some

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you know, videos whatever on that. We got a lot

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of guys in the discord too. I got about two

1011
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thousand people in the Discord that are into that stuff.

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So you're welcome in there as well. Somebody talking about

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the I mean, there are superchats that you have to

1014
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go to stream labs, guys. I got Demonta's so superchats

1015
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are only through stream labs. There was another question where

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to go? Where can I take an online Hellenic philosophy. Course,

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I don't know, bro, but you could go to Father

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Deacon doctor Anonysis channel because he has extensive lectures on

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Aristotle and I have in my archives, of course, lectures

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throughout the entirety of play those republic and many of

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the dialogues. So that's the best that I could give

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you on Hellenic philosophy. I don't know any Hellenic experts,

1023
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so sorry, I can't be more help there. Yeah, so

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superchats are separate now, it's you have to go to

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stream labs. Stream labs is a separate service from YouTube.

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But anyway, well, all right, thanks John, everybody go to

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his website. Get that book. I'm sure it's going to

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be great. I will read it, and I'm sure that

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John and I will be talking in the future if

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he wants to. Would you like to do that, John?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Awesome? Man, Well, thank you very much and thank you

1033
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for coming on. And it was a great shot and

1034
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I'm glad to see the track that you're on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. And real quick, that Twitter handle is

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Dallas professor at professor Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, all right, let's say that again.

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Speaker 3: Dallas professor at Professor Dallas.

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Speaker 2: At Professor Dallas T A O I S T.

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Speaker 3: It's inverted like Begin and the Yang. Man.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, dude. So I'll add your

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Twitter to the show descriptions so people can follow you

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on Twitter too.

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Speaker 3: Very cool. Yeah, let's keep in touch, man.

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Speaker 2: I'm moving forward to absolutely have