WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:06.519 Bill Cunningham, The Great American Rights Baseball kicks off with 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:09.640 Lace about six oh five tonight. This is a critical 3 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:12.720 juncture in the season. They're getting very used to losing 4 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:15.039 baseball games. It becomes institutional. 5 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:15.720 At some point. 6 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:18.399 There was hope a week ago, now not so much. 7 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:20.559 Hope got to beat Milwaukee won eight in a row. 8 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:23.039 I think the red legs right now are zero and 9 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:26.800 twenty five. If losing after seven innings and that's a 10 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:29.239 negative zero in twenty five is not a good record. 11 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.799 And also the record one run games is the second 12 00:00:32.799 --> 00:00:35.359 worst in the league. But until then, more important things. 13 00:00:35.439 --> 00:00:37.880 Rob Sanders, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And 14 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:40.200 first of all, before we talk about the news story 15 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:44.560 from last night about using the Dark Web to purchase drugs, 16 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:48.079 which is really stupid, but nonetheless, I would note the 17 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:52.200 passing of Don Burring, your predecessor in title commonwealth attorney 18 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:53.759 in Kenton County. I had him on my show a 19 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:57.960 couple times. Wasn't as outgoing and personal as you, but 20 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.560 nonetheless he was competent, he was brilliant, and he changed 21 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.119 law enforcement. He got the work done. And then also 22 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:06.120 the passing of Phil Tolliver two giants and left the 23 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:08.959 scene in northern Kentucky. So, as far as Don Burring 24 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:11.799 is concerned, can you tell us your memories of him? 25 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:15.480 Oh, Willie, it's been a real rough week. As you 26 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:17.560 and I talked about a week ago about the passing 27 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.519 of Phil Tolliver, and I thought that was bad, and 28 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:23.560 lo and behold, just a couple of days later, my mentor, 29 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.079 my first boss, the guy that hired me gave me 30 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:29.040 the opportunity to be a prosecutor. Don Burn You know, 31 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:32.040 he did great things as a prosecutor. He also passed 32 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:34.439 away just a couple of days after Phil Tolliver did. 33 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:36.400 But I mean he was. 34 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.959 Crazy first of all, because he hired me fresh out 35 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.359 of law school, his Euro experience, went to court for 36 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:44.680 my first trial and didn't even know that I was 37 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.319 the one that had to start asking the jury questions first. 38 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:51.359 During board year, learned everything there was to know about 39 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:53.959 being a prosecutor from Don Burring and the other prosecutors 40 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:56.239 in the office at that time. But he ran just 41 00:01:56.280 --> 00:02:00.359 a fantastic office. But as you mentioned, Don was not 42 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:03.879 one to really seek out the media. He did not 43 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:07.239 like the spotlight. He didn't brag on himself or his office. 44 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.599 He was hardly ever in the newspaper if a reporter 45 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:11.159 got it to give him a quote and they were 46 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:14.319 really doing something. And ultimately, in two thousand, I think 47 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:17.680 that humility that Don always showed about just going about 48 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.360 his job and not seeking any attention or any praise 49 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:23.280 for the excellent work that he did caused him a 50 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:26.599 problem in the election because in two thousand all the 51 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.080 Republicans took on Democrats. Back then, before two thousand, he 52 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.400 had to be a Democrat to get elected in Kenton County. 53 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:34.319 In two thousand and that all changed, and when a 54 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:38.039 Republican came along and ran against him, nobody really knew 55 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:41.159 who Don Burrn was or what the Kamalalth Attorney's office was, 56 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:43.680 and I think it cost him the election. The voters 57 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.719 didn't realize that Don burn was the guy that had 58 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:50.000 put you know, killers like Fred Furnish and Gregory Wilson 59 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.800 on death row. They didn't realize that he was a 60 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:56.840 great prosecutor that put Shaunta Robertson in prison for manslaughter 61 00:02:57.319 --> 00:03:00.280 for causing the death of Michael Parton, the Covington police 62 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:04.000 officer tragically fell from the bridge on January fourth into 63 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.199 the frozen Ohio River fell to his death. Back then, 64 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.360 falling fleeing police was not a thing. That law only 65 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:14.360 came about because of Don's prosecution. Mister Robertson and Don 66 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.039 used a novel theory of prosecuting someone on what we 67 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:21.400 refer to as the butt Ford theory. In other words, 68 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:24.840 but for those criminal acts, that police officer would still 69 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:29.039 be alive, so that that criminal is liable as criminally 70 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.080 liable for that conduct and has to go to prison 71 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:31.879 for that conduct. 72 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:32.919 It changed the. 73 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:37.919 Law in both precedent before the Kentucky Supreme Court as 74 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:41.120 well as the statutes passed by our legislature to further 75 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:44.800 protect the police in Kentucky and protect the public from 76 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:48.840 dangerous criminals running from those police officers. But more importantly, 77 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:52.560 Don was just a fantastic boss. He didn't micromanage. He 78 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.520 was always around to help. He would stay if I 79 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.639 was in trial or one of the other prosecutors was 80 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.680 in trial, Willy. He would stay around until the trial 81 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:05.120 was over, whether that trial ended at five pm, seven pm, 82 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.319 even ten o'clock at night, Don would stick around to 83 00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.400 see what the outcome of the case was. 84 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:12.439 He was always there to cheer our victories. And on 85 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:12.919 the rare. 86 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.479 Occasions when we lost, he was there to help pick 87 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:17.759 us up and dust us off and get us back 88 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:18.839 into the courtroom again. 89 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:21.319 But bottom line is Don did a lot. 90 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:26.199 Of great prosecutions himself personally, trying all the major cases, 91 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:29.399 the homicides, a lot of rapes, robbery's, child molestings, you 92 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:31.439 name it, the worst of the worst. And he was 93 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:35.319 always there to train good prosecutors, hire good prosecutors, and 94 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:38.879 really give the taxpayers, the citizens, the law abiding citizens 95 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.120 of Kenton County, the prosecutor's office that they deserved. And 96 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.120 there's a lot of criminals in the world that are 97 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:50.120 still incarcerated that really were the unfortunate recipients of justice 98 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.120 at the hands of Don Burns, so that he could 99 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:56.839 bring just some little sense of justice from the criminal 100 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.839 justice system for the thousands of victims a violent crime 101 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.519 that Don dealt with over the years. And it's just 102 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.120 a sad day, it's a sad week around here. He 103 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:10.399 will have his visitation tomorrow, I'm sorry, Thursday. His funeral 104 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.040 is on Friday, and of course I'll be in attendance 105 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:16.040 as well. All the prosecutors and many of the law 106 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.399 enforcement that worked with Don over the years, but it's 107 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.759 just a tragic loss of a great prosecutor and a 108 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:22.319 good friend. 109 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:26.480 When you came out of law school, I would imagine 110 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.279 your salary as an assistant prosecutor in Kenton County was 111 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.439 like at fifteen to twenty thousand dollars a year, many 112 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:35.439 lawyers who were making a lot more money. Why did 113 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:38.639 Rob Sanders say, you know, having never tried a case, 114 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:42.879 why did you become a prosecutor? What was in your 115 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:43.920 heart your soul to do that? 116 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.720 Well, Willie, I grew up the son of a prosecutor. 117 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:51.079 My dad was an assistant common authitorney in the same 118 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.560 office that I now run in my earliest memories of 119 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:56.879 him in trial whereas of him as a prosecutor, and 120 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:00.800 the grandson of Lieutenant Colonel Jeff Sanders. She retired as 121 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.399 chief of Detectives an assistant chief of the Covington Police Department. 122 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:07.240 So law enforcement was just in my veins. Being a 123 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:10.480 trial attorneys in my blood. It was something I always 124 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:12.399 wanted to do when I went you know, first of all, 125 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:14.879 I came home to go to Chase College of Law 126 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.120 because I had learned enough for my dad to know 127 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:19.959 that getting a job in the local prosecutor's office was 128 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:22.319 as much about who you know as it was about 129 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:24.560 what your grade point average was, or what your class 130 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:26.360 rank was, or anything like that. So I have the 131 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.240 opportunity to go to some other law schools across the country, 132 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:31.800 but pass those up in order to come home and 133 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.199 go to the local law school so I could get 134 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:36.240 to know Don Bring and convince him to hire me 135 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.160 as a prosecutor, even though I had no experience, never 136 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:42.040 set foot as an attorney in a courtroom, and before 137 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:45.639 he hired me, you're right, it didn't pay well. 138 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.000 But here's the funny. 139 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:50.079 Story is when Don hired me, he didn't bother to 140 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:52.160 tell me how much the job paid. I didn't add 141 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:54.079 how much I wanted to be a prosecutor. That I 142 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.000 never told people I was going to law school to 143 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:57.439 be a lawyer. I always said I was going to 144 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:00.600 law school to be a prosecutor. And when the time 145 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:03.120 came that Don lost his election, I learned the hard, 146 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:07.079 harsh reality about working for an elected official, and that's 147 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:09.600 your jobs only as secure as your boss's job is. 148 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.360 The guy that took over for him came in, fired 149 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:14.720 the entire office, and I went to do six years 150 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.680 in private practice. It's fortunate the land with my father. 151 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.279 He had his own law office by then in private 152 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:21.959 practice here in Covington. 153 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:22.839 Went to work with him. 154 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:24.959 And if there was one thing that being in private 155 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:28.199 practice taught me, it was that prosecution was a much 156 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.600 better job. I loved what I did when I was 157 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:32.360 a prosecutor. I had no problem getting up in the 158 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:35.040 morning and going to work. When I was in private practice. 159 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.360 I literally lived right next door to my office, and 160 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:39.639 I was always late to work because being a lawyer 161 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:43.800 was a job. It didn't suck, but it wasn't great. 162 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:46.480 It wasn't the rewarding career that being a Kamal health 163 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:49.279 attorney is or an assistant kommalalth attorney is. And I 164 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.360 just missed it, and it built in the resolve that 165 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:52.720 I wanted to go back to It was the only 166 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:54.560 way I could be a prosecutor again. Was to run 167 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:57.199 against the guy, to beat my boss, and with the 168 00:07:57.240 --> 00:07:59.639 assistance of the voters, beat him. And I've been doing 169 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:02.439 it here ever since. And give you an idea of Willie. 170 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:05.040 I just realized this week, an idea how long I've 171 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:05.519 been doing this. 172 00:08:05.600 --> 00:08:05.800 Now. 173 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:10.000 I started noticing that I'm getting defendants whose birth dates 174 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.920 are after I took office in two thousand and seven. 175 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:15.519 So I took off at January first in two thousand 176 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.680 and seven. I got these kids getting prosecuted for felonies. 177 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:21.120 Now they weren't even born when I took office, but 178 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:24.800 now here I am prosecuting them. Hopefully don't have to 179 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.600 put all of them in prison. Some of them just 180 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:28.560 need some help, some correction, but a few of them 181 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:30.600 have already messed up so bad they'll be off to 182 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.519 go in no time because they've just got to go. 183 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:36.639 You know, at our power breakfast yesterday with Justice Joe 184 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:40.399 and you and me just having eggs and having conversation, 185 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:44.279 I brought up the fact to you that you're relatively young, 186 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:48.080 you have a perfect name for the Commonwealth, which is Sanders, 187 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.080 and you have a situation here where the state government's 188 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:55.440 going to flip over again. I guess next year there's 189 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:58.600 going to be everything's up for the AG's position. The governor, 190 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:02.639 Tom Massey, they say, is in trouble because Trump's gonna 191 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:05.399 target him, which I think that's a fool's aaron. 192 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:06.200 But that's a different thing. 193 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:07.919 If you thought about moving up, if you know a 194 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.279 lot of people say I don't want to move up 195 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:10.519 the ladder. I'm at the top of a lot of 196 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:12.919 right now. I love what I'm doing. I'm motivated by 197 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:15.799 what I'm doing, and I'm not seeking something else. I'm 198 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:20.679 seeking what I have, which is satisfaction. I'm not moving on. Well, 199 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:21.759 have you thought about that? 200 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.440 I wouldn't be lying if I said I never thought 201 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.879 about anything else, because a lot of people have pitched 202 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:29.600 a lot of other ideas to me. A lot of 203 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.759 people have encouraged me to run for anything from governor 204 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:36.519 to the United States Senator to Congress if Thomas Massey 205 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:39.480 ever steps down. Unlike President Trump, I would never go 206 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:40.559 against Thomas Massey. 207 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:41.759 I think he's doing a hell of job. 208 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:46.559 But yeah, I've been presented with other opportunities before, always 209 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.240 pass them up because I love what I do, and 210 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:51.279 I especially love this job as kamal At Attorney. And 211 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:53.879 if I retire, it's the longest serving kamal At attorney 212 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.159 in the history of Kenton County, which, by the way, 213 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:00.639 I'm approaching quickly that title. But nevertheless, if I retire 214 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.799 after a long career, is Kamalath the attorney in Kenton County? 215 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.480 I will retire happy, because I am perfectly happy here 216 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:09.639 doing what it is I'm doing. But the one thing 217 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:12.240 that has locked me into this job, at least until 218 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.240 twenty twenty seven, is the fact that Andy Basheer would 219 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:16.639 get to appoint my replacement. 220 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:19.240 And there is no way that I'm going to turn 221 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:19.879 this office. 222 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:23.519 In everything we've built here over the last eighteen going 223 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.480 on nineteen years, there's no way that I would turn 224 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:28.720 that over to an Andy Basheer appoint pee. So the 225 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.279 good citizens of Kenton County elected me to a six 226 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.279 year term. I'm one of two offices in Kentucky that 227 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:36.919 is not up the only two offices not up for 228 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.320 election next year or Kamalalth attorney in Circuit Court clerk. 229 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:42.679 This There might be a couple of judicial races too, 230 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.600 but all the two year and four year offices are 231 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:47.279 all up in twenty twenty six. 232 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:49.559 Fortunately I'm not one of them. 233 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:53.639 I'll be sticking around to at least twenty seven, probably 234 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.279 twenty thirty, probably going to run for reelection here and 235 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:57.200 just stick it out. 236 00:10:57.960 --> 00:10:59.360 Things could always change. 237 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.360 I'll consider any opportunity, but I'm not going anywhere anytime. 238 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:06.399 So you know, why seek what you have If you 239 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:09.639 have fulfillment, satisfaction, you're motivated by your work, You're doing 240 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:12.240 good things for the community. Why seek something else? 241 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:12.440 Now? 242 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:14.639 Secondly, I'm watching one of the TV channels last night, 243 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.320 I think it was Channel five, might have been Tricia 244 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.360 Macki and you were on about the dark web and 245 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.080 how individuals have such poor judgment about their own health 246 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.360 and others that the order pills pharmaceuticals on the dark 247 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.679 web often laced with fentanyl. And I'm thinking, do it 248 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:34.159 for Jack dot Org, who is the Maler High school 249 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:37.200 grad who died of an overdose of fentanyl unwittingly. I 250 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.840 think about those two girls at Ohio State who were 251 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.440 going out and wanted to get some quayludes or whatever, 252 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:45.360 and they popped in a quaylude that was laced with 253 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:47.720 fentanyl unbeknownst to them, and both are dead. 254 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:49.799 And this is something happening. 255 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:52.120 First of all, for those who may not be initiated, 256 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.799 what is the dark web and why not the order 257 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:58.279 drugs on the dark web and what are the criminal responsibilities? 258 00:11:59.200 --> 00:11:59.639 Well, first of. 259 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.120 All, will nobody should do any drugs that aren't prescribed 260 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:04.399 to them? You know, I certainly don't want to do 261 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:08.759 the illicit drugs like the met the fentanyl, the cocaine, 262 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.480 the heroin, all these drugs that are never prescribed to somebody. 263 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:16.159 But and what we were dealing with in this case 264 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:19.399 was an overdose victim was found by the Villa Hills 265 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:24.559 Police department. They had found a fellow, unfortunately deceased, right 266 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.200 next to some crushed up pills that were made to 267 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.519 look like they were oxy cotone pills, but they really weren't. 268 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.519 They could tell right away that these were not pharmaceutical 269 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:36.519 gray pills, but these were pressed pills that some drug 270 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:40.600 dealers somewhere had made. They had taken their elicit concoction 271 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:42.080 and drugs and they had put them in a pill 272 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:46.240 press and made them to look like prescription oxy cotones, 273 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.039 but they weren't. What they also found was the deceased 274 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.080 cell phone, and they got on that cell phone and 275 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.000 they could see text messages where the overdose victim had 276 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.320 ordered up these pills from a drug dealer across the 277 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:03.000 river in Cincinnati, who who the Billa Hill's police speculated 278 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.360 did not know that this victim was dead and then 279 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.360 died of an overdose. So they called up our friends 280 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:11.200 at the Northern Kentucky Drugs Strike Force who used that 281 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.000 victim's cell phone and pretended to be the dead drug 282 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:17.759 user and ordered up more pills from the same drug 283 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:21.559 dealer using the dead guy's phone. That drug dealer a 284 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:25.840 fellow by the name of Kiarosh Mazdapour. And I might 285 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:30.080 be mispronouncing that, but you know the common spelling common pronunciation. 286 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:30.639 I suppose. 287 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:34.720 Anyway, this fellow from Cincinnati came over to Kentucky in 288 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:37.000 order to sell ten more pills to this what he 289 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:41.320 thought was his drug purchaser. It turns out that purchaser 290 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:44.639 was an undercover Northern Kentucky Drug Strike Force agent. When 291 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:47.639 they found mister Massapoor showing up to do this drug deal, 292 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:51.600 he actually had more than thirty pills in his possession. 293 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:52.919 Those same press pills. 294 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:56.960 He was arrested for trafficking and fentanyl for importing fentanel 295 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:58.879 into the common Wealth of Kentucky. Both of those are 296 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:02.840 class felonies to ten years. And because it's ventyl, it's 297 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:06.039 violent offense, which means whatever sentence you gets to have 298 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.879 to serve an eighty five percent of that sentence. He's 299 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:13.080 in a lot of trouble, Willie. He's also potentially facing 300 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.320 some homicide charges. Once we get the autopsy report back 301 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:19.399 confirm that the death was in fact an overdose death 302 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:21.960 and was in fact from ventyl, he could be in 303 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.159 a lot more trouble here in the near future, depending 304 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.879 on how that scientific testing turns out. But to answer 305 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.159 your question, the dark Web is a part of the 306 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.480 Internet that exists, but that you have to have a 307 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.919 special type of web browser in order to access that. 308 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.080 You can't just dial up the dark Web on your 309 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.000 Google Chrome browser or your Internet. 310 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:42.919 Explorer browser or one of those. 311 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.679 And I'm not going to tell your listeners not what 312 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:47.159 that is because I don't know all out and trying 313 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:48.080 to get on the dark Web. 314 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:49.919 But on the dark Web you. 315 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:53.799 Can order up anything from sentinel to human beings and 316 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:56.320 anything in between. Whatever there is that you would not 317 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:59.320 want law enforcement to know that you were up to, 318 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:01.759 you can find that on the dark Web some corner 319 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:06.279 of the earth where some heathens or scoundrels or anything 320 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:10.240 from human traffickers to drug traffickers, you name it there 321 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:14.159 out there. You know, we bust people importing fentanel off 322 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.840 the dark Web. We bust people importing human beings off 323 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:21.559 the dark Web. Child pornography off the dark web, child 324 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.200 size sex dolls, you name it. It's out there. All 325 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.039 the stuff that when you see it in the paper 326 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:28.960 or when you see Court and King on Fox nineteen 327 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.519 doing another story about one of the crazy cases that 328 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.120 we have and go where does this stuff even come from? 329 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:37.919 It comes off the dark web. That's how most of 330 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.399 it ends up in the United States. 331 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.679 And those who know that should understand that many times 332 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:45.440 this happens to people between the ages of fifteen and 333 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:48.120 forty five or whatever the age is, that when you 334 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.879 give someone a drug and that person dies from it, 335 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.639 you're facing homicide charges. I had a distant relative in 336 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.000 Indianapolis going to school and she wanted to lose some weight, 337 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:01.240 and a girlfriend of hers gave her a couple of 338 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:04.519 diet pills that turned out lace with fentanyl. She went 339 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:07.399 to sleep and didn't wake up, and that person who 340 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:10.799 gave her the drug is facing criminal charges. And the 341 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:14.440 drug dealer that was identified in Indiana, they're serious about 342 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.440 crime like in Kentucky. And guess what, that drug dealer 343 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.679 is now facing thirty five years in prison for directly 344 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.200 causing the death of someone. But if you're a man 345 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:25.360 or a woman and someone says, hey, I need an 346 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:27.559 up or down or I need a dietary drug, and 347 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:31.120 that thing is lace with fentanyl. You're facing yourself criminal 348 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:33.600 charge as well. We got to run time up against 349 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:35.639 the clock. But I want to note the passing of 350 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:38.559 Don Burring who did great work and the Commonwealth. Along 351 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:40.720 with Phil Tollifer. He helped me quite a bit with 352 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:43.879 Willie's and Covington whatever had a problem in northern Kentucky. 353 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:46.639 Phil Tollifer was the go to guy. We will not 354 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:50.080 see their like again, both of them and once again 355 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.879 working people. Get information on the funeral of Don Burring. 356 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:54.080 Is it available where? 357 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:57.480 Yeah, the services are going to be at Linniman Funeral 358 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.639 Home Willie and then the funeral is going. 359 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:01.720 To be at Saint Barbe's Church. 360 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.920 If you google the Linomen Funeral Home's website you can 361 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:08.880 find the information in the specific times on his services 362 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.640 and then he'll be buried at Saint Mary's Catholic Cemetery 363 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.119 in Fort Mitchell on Friday. I know, but all the 364 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:18.440 times that they're on the Linimen Funeral Home website. 365 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:20.960 But I know the Burring family, they're all good people. 366 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:23.640 They could use your thoughts and prayers right now is 367 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:26.759 they laid arrest, their father, their grandfather. 368 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:27.359 Their husband. Good. 369 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:29.640 You know, it's a really sad time for all of 370 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:30.880 Don's family and friends. 371 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.240 And Don and Phil went before is marked with a 372 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:36.279 sign of faith. And once again, Rob Sanders, thanks for 373 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:38.240 coming on the Bill Cunningham shot. I'm sure we're going 374 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:39.960 to do it again. Thank you, my friend. 375 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:42.160 I'll look forward to it really, Thank you, God bless you. 376 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:45.640 Let's continue with more and Reds baseball kicks off tonight. 377 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.000 This is an important time in the season. They have 378 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:52.000 to start winning some baseball games, would you agree, Bill Cunningham, 379 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:58.079 News Radio seven hundred W WELDO by Billy Cunningham, the 380 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:01.400 Great American. We begin this broadcas yes excellence. I guess 381 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:04.440 again on this Tuesday afternoon. We'll see what happens with 382 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:08.039 Red's baseball starting about six oh five tonight. I think 383 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:11.039 my history in baseball is going to indicate the Reds 384 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:12.799 are in a funk right now from which they may 385 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:15.519 not soon exit. I can recall my good old days 386 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.519 playing ball in Deer Park with Rutters Pharmacy and Deer 387 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.880 Park Theater and Burnette Pontiac and Wilson's Freight Forwarding had 388 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:27.240 great teams. We had national championships, Class C Nothole, we 389 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.599 won the city title. All the kids played baseball. We anticipated, 390 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.519 when we show up, we're going to win. On the 391 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:35.799 mound was maybe Bill Bishop, who's now a great attorney 392 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:38.599 in Arkansas. There might have been a couple others like 393 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:41.759 Jim Wall would throw hardball at ninety miles an hour 394 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:43.839 every game we showed up, we thought we're going to win, 395 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:45.079 and we normally did. 396 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:47.119 Some seasons we went undefeed us. 397 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.720 Some other seasons we didn't, and then other players wanted 398 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:51.319 to come to play in our teams because we were 399 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:54.000 so good. Now, how does that apply to the Reds 400 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.519 in twenty twenty five. Here's the thing we anticipated when 401 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:00.799