WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.440 Hello, and welcome to the show at Martin willis your host, 2 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:20.920 and to have a great guest this evening, Christy Newton. 3 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:23.440 She was on once before. She's come a long way. 4 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:25.679 I've done a lot of amazing things, a lot of 5 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:29.559 great work over at the Debrief, and she also does 6 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:33.560 a great podcast, interviews a lot of very interesting people. 7 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:37.679 So it's a pleasure to have her on. So for 8 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:40.479 those of you who followed this as a YouTube channel, 9 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:43.640 you'll know that I was at the press conference today 10 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:46.560 at the National Press Club. I'm currently in Washington, DC 11 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:50.159 from a hotel room right now, but so check that 12 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:52.240 out if you haven't seen it. It was supposed to 13 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.079 be two sessions and it kind of morphed into one, 14 00:00:55.479 --> 00:00:57.520 so it's just one session up there. It's over three 15 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:01.000 hours long. Check it out on our you tube channel. 16 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:04.719 I was right up front. I had everything. There was 17 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:08.560 only one glitch and it was my fault because when 18 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.079 I got there, I realized they didn't have any internet, 19 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.959 any Wi Fi that you could use, and so I 20 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:17.439 was using my phone and I was sitting next to 21 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:21.319 Sarah Graham, She's such a pleasure, and I said, Sarah, 22 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.719 hold my laptop here. I have to use the restroom. 23 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.159 So I walked in the restroom with my phone in 24 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:28.920 my pocket and the whole thing crashed for the whole time. 25 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:33.560 I came running back and I got this thing back together. 26 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:36.599 But anyway, check it out over there on the YouTube 27 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:39.120 and I will put that, I do believe sometime on Thursday, 28 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:41.359 i'll put the audio. Going to work on the audio 29 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:43.719 a little bit and I'll get that into the podcast feed. 30 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:49.480 So our blog this week from Charles Lear is another 31 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:53.719 great and interesting one and it's just the timing is 32 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:58.560 pretty quite amazing on this blog here because Charles was 33 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:04.959 writing this before Eric Londanakin passed away and this came 34 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.319 out and it's all about a lot of people don't 35 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.879 know this, but when Eric was writing this book, he 36 00:02:11.039 --> 00:02:16.000 was in bad trouble and the book basically bailed him 37 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.680 out and changed his whole life. This is the Chariots 38 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:20.919 of God and the story is all about that. It's 39 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:24.759 quite interesting really, But we lost him recently. He was 40 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:26.759 a guest on the show a couple of times. Very 41 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.639 interesting and fun character. So check out the blog from 42 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:34.599 Charles Lear, and I want to thank everyone that helps 43 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.680 out with the show. It's always appreciated and anyone can 44 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:41.039 support the show. If you want an AD free experience, 45 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.400 it's only two dollars or more a month. That's through Patreon. 46 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:48.319 You can see that through our website podcastufo dot com. 47 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.919 We also have T shirts and things merchandise. If you 48 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.560 are looking for anything like that, you can find that 49 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:59.199 over again podcastufo dot com. Without further ado, I am 50 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.199 bringing see into the show. Christy. Nice to see you again. 51 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:03.560 Good to see you too, Martin. 52 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:07.719 Always always fun to talk to you, and you have 53 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:10.120 I believe you and I I want to say you 54 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:15.039 and I first met through your your publicist company. 55 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:16.759 You yeah, through vo. 56 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:20.840 I remember it was I can't remember. It was someone's 57 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.840 movie or film or something like that, and that's how 58 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:24.639 we first met. 59 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:26.560 Yeah, it might have been. I've done PR. 60 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:28.919 I've been lucky enough to do PR with Jack La 61 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.439 and then along with Aero Phenomenon, I did all the 62 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:34.199 PR with Randall Nickerson on that film, and so I'm 63 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.800 and my one of my cannon favorite films that I 64 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:39.759 always recommend to everybody to watch. 65 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:41.560 There's like you two. 66 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.400 Yeah, it's just it's it's usually I say, just watched 67 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:45.080 that one first. 68 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:46.439 That's what I tell you it's such. 69 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.199 First of all, rand I love Randall. He's he's been 70 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.719 a good friend for a long time. And years ago 71 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.120 when I saw his wildlife photography in Africa, I said, 72 00:03:56.120 --> 00:04:01.759 oh my god, this man is. He's kind of an artist, genius, perfectionist. 73 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:05.520 And that's just what the film was. I mean just 74 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:08.240 and that film was all set to go to theaters 75 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.159 and then the pandemic COVID came and he had beautiful 76 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:16.720 music and beautiful scenery. I mean, what a show that is. 77 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:19.399 But as I say, if people ever ask me what's 78 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:24.360 my favorite of all cases, that is it right there, 79 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:29.920 because that will turn someone that's a non believer that 80 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.120 there is, that things are whatever it is visiting us 81 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:37.879 into someone that says, wow, you know that's really something. 82 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.600 Except my sister, my sister. I sat down and showed 83 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:44.839 my sister the movie and the whole thing. We go 84 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.879 through the whole thing, and she's, Okay, what's let's see 85 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.800 let's uh, why don't we have spaghetti tonight? You know 86 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:55.439 she's absolutely not. And her husband, who used to work 87 00:04:55.439 --> 00:05:00.199 at Los Alamos Labs, you know, he's a a as 88 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.439 a scientist, and he says, oh yeah, you know, we 89 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.560 very well could be you know. He's all like, yeah, 90 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:09.279 we could very well be visited by whatever, you know, 91 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.040 but she's just like not even not going to even 92 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.399 yeah's glad to do that. Yeah, she'll send me come 93 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:18.319 to the UF all things, sometimes an email or whatever, 94 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:21.480 but yeah, she has absolutely no interest. My other sister 95 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:24.680 was actually in the live stream I did today at 96 00:05:24.680 --> 00:05:29.000 the Press Club, so she's she's interested in it. But yeah, 97 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:32.399 but anyway, you've done so much since we last spoken, 98 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:36.560 and the I think has been a huge success and 99 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:38.000 you're part of that. What's it like? 100 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.199 Thank you? Sorry to hear the last part you ket 101 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:40.600 out there. 102 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:42.800 Oh, I'm sorry, and it might be you know, I'm 103 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:45.160 using this microphone. I'm not sure how it's working here. 104 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:47.959 How are you enjoying? 105 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:50.720 Oh, just life in general? I guess. 106 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:53.240 Yeah, I'm like I look at success like I guess 107 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:56.240 it is success, I guess, or just accolades of things 108 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:56.879 in my career. 109 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:59.279 But there's just so much more I want to do. 110 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:01.120 I'm just happy I get to do it, you know, 111 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.480 I'm happy I get to like participate in this, that 112 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:08.199 the strategies that I build in PR that they work 113 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:12.240 in UAP, like I just you know, there's so much 114 00:06:12.240 --> 00:06:17.560 more around public relations and just you know, the whole 115 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:22.000 mechanics of PR outside of just media around UFOs. So yeah, 116 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.560 I'm really happy that I've been able to contribute in it, 117 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.160 and I just keep wanting to do more and hopefully 118 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:29.879 working on stuff to do in the future too, So 119 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:32.240 you know, hopefully I'll be here and like the rest 120 00:06:32.240 --> 00:06:34.680 of us in this space to the day I die, 121 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.399 you know, probably a life for let's be honest, Martin. 122 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:39.879 So yeah, I feel some degree I. 123 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:41.040 Might not be in front of the camera. 124 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.560 It is my boot behind showing up to things and 125 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:46.079 being like, oh, these are all the new youngins that 126 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.079 have showed up in this space, you know that are 127 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:50.480 and I was a young ins in their thirties and 128 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:54.040 forties and twenties coming in right, because I think there's 129 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:58.600 like an each thing with UFOs. Apparently it's getting. 130 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:02.600 People today, younger people to the Oh the press conference 131 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:04.639 is very nice to see. And I had dinner with 132 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:08.199 several people tonight and Whitley Strieber was across from me, 133 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.639 and we're both talking about doing this a long time, 134 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:13.480 you know, and he says, well, I'm going to stop 135 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.680 when they put me in the ground, he said, otherwise 136 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:18.079 I'm going to just keep going, And I said, yeah, 137 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.120 I have no plans in stopping. I think, you know, 138 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:24.600 it's such a it's such a mind boggling topic, so 139 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.600 fascinating to me, and I don't know how it's kind 140 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:32.040 of hard to understand once you get interested in it, 141 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:35.000 why you weren't interested in why other people aren't interested 142 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:36.199 in it, oh for sure. 143 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:39.279 And then how everything kind of intersects together, you know, 144 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.839 once you and then all these rabbit holes that open up. 145 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.480 That's what really happened to me with UAP. You know, 146 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.600 I became really deeply interested in national security, which I 147 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:50.279 never thought would happened. But that's adjacent to it, obviously, 148 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:52.399 so you start to learn more about that, you know, 149 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.319 as a Canadian, I've learned way more about American politics 150 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:57.240 than I think I ever would have thought. I've learned 151 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:01.199 more about technology and science obviously working with the debrief, 152 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.680 but then looking at all the different types of propulsion 153 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.360 systems potentially that people talk about that UAP, you know, 154 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:10.199 could be based on, or what kind of propulsion hopefully 155 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.839 maybe it's using, if it is using any type of propulsion, 156 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.759 so like stuff to that degree, Like it's just it's 157 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:19.920 always been very interesting to learn consistently and you never stop. 158 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.160 And then sometimes I also get to a point where 159 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:24.800 it's too much, you know, we get into like little 160 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:27.959 bubbles where like everything's like at you at one time, 161 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.040 and then you're just trying to keep up with all 162 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:32.840 the information and all the news consistently, and that's really 163 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:33.399 hard too. 164 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:35.480 So we go through these ebbs and flows. 165 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.000 But what I've kind of realized with UFOs is usually 166 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.519 in the winter, you know, we usually get a lot 167 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:41.840 of stuff. 168 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:44.840 In the summertime, well that's. 169 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.360 You know, that's our evs and flows around August September, 170 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:50.480 you know, we get hits with stuff, if it's other 171 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.080 films or news pieces. I find that to be the 172 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:56.360 most consistent for us is throughout the summer. It's the 173 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:59.559 busiest in uIP people talking about it. It's probably because 174 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:02.080 people are out there now like hosting events or doing 175 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:05.080 films or doing other things, so that's why, and more 176 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:07.879 people are willing to travel during the summer months. 177 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:10.440 But yeah, it's just it's been fun and I'm just 178 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:10.879 so glad. 179 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.799 I started doing like looking at UFOs when I was 180 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:15.679 a little girl into now being alive. 181 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.679 Yes, you're I do remember when you were on last time, 182 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:20.720 which was quite quite a while ago. I can't remember. 183 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:23.240 I think it's been at least two or three years. 184 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:27.200 I think I think it's been longer than that. Actually, yeah, baby, Yeah, 185 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:31.159 But anyway, I do believe you said your father had 186 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:32.120 a UFO siting. 187 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:32.879 He did. 188 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:37.440 Yeah, and there was a flashlight involved. Does that did 189 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:38.879 he flash or something? 190 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.159 No, you are something? Yeah, No, you're close. Good memory though. 191 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.879 So it was in Pembroke, Ontario, in that region on 192 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:49.240 a highway. He was with a group of friends and 193 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:51.639 he saw a UFO with them and they The short 194 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:53.559 of it is that they pulled over and got out 195 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:54.559 of the car and. 196 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.000 Slashed their high beams at it. 197 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.720 My dad did a vehicle and then the UFO flashed 198 00:09:58.759 --> 00:09:59.399 back at them. 199 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:00.000 Yeah. 200 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.120 Yeah, I was intelligently piloted, which is wild. 201 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:05.879 And so my dad took a photo of it, and 202 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:07.960 when I was a little girl, he showed me that photo. 203 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.120 He still has like the negative in the space it's 204 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.159 sorry in his safe. So I'm one day I've said 205 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:16.440 to him, I was like, you got to take it 206 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:18.039 out of the safe, and he's like, I will I said, 207 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.679 because I want to. I want to develop it so 208 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:22.799 that I can make it into like a really big 209 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.639 piece of art and put it in my kitchen. So 210 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:29.840 he's like, all right, he's given me other stuff though 211 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:33.080 that He's had his documents and things that he's collected 212 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:34.879 over the years, and I start now, I have been 213 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:37.960 passed down some of that material, so, you know, and 214 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.799 I have it hanging on my wall now, laminated or 215 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:45.000 protected so that I can pass it down to maybe 216 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.360 my nephew or who knows, to somebody who really who 217 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:49.679 loves this topic as I get. 218 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:53.919 Older, right, and so I think that probably contributed to 219 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.519 your interests. Would you say that. 220 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:57.919 Oh immensely. 221 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:00.279 The funny thing is my dad and I have haven't 222 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:02.440 really talked to U of FOS so much in the past. 223 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:06.240 We talk a lot about world politics, you know. 224 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:06.799 Right now. 225 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:09.399 Every time we get together, there's a place called swish 226 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:13.159 La in Canada where it's like chicken and fries. It's 227 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.480 like it's a very known kind of like place that 228 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:17.120 people go, and my dad and I will He loves 229 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:19.120 swish La, so we will go to swish La together 230 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:19.720 and we will. 231 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:20.879 Talk about what's going on in China. 232 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.080 We talk about what's just happening on the world, and 233 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:27.080 then you know, good and bad. Talk heavily about Canadian politics, 234 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.480 American politics. But yeah, we talk a lot about world issues, 235 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:32.799 my dad and I, but my whole family does. To 236 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:36.320 be honest, we're one of those people. But we haven't 237 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:38.519 really in the past couple of months, have not talked 238 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:42.240 a lot about UFOs. He is reading Jacques Vallet's Trinity 239 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.480 right now, and so he'll call me sometimes and be like, 240 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:47.519 oh my gosh, or you know, I didn't know this, 241 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.200 or he'll just call me about certain things and we'll 242 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:53.039 kind of gab about that. But in most recent weeks 243 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:54.960 and months, it's been world politics. 244 00:11:55.320 --> 00:12:03.039 Yeah. My partner, producer Donna her, when she was a 245 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:07.000 little little girl, she basically saw like a UFO in 246 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.080 some magazine or whatever, and she said to her father, well, 247 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.879 what are they? What does the government know? What are 248 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:15.759 those things? What does the government know about him? And 249 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:19.679 father said, they don't know what they are? And that 250 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.600 is what created her curiosity on the subject, just just 251 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.360 because they didn't know, like and that adults don't know something, 252 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:31.639 you know, what could this be? You know? So it's 253 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:36.000 funny how different you know, people get influenced. I don't 254 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:39.600 know what my parents might. Both my parents passed by 255 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:41.919 the time, you know that I really got interested in 256 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.960 this topic, so I don't have any slaved idea what 257 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:47.200 they thought about the topic never came up. 258 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:47.799 Yeah, and I. 259 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:50.399 Should ask my dad if he was interested in UFOs 260 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:53.840 before his citing. I imagine he was. He's, you know, 261 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:57.600 pretty open minded. There's a quote that he said once 262 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:00.159 when I was driving. You know, he's like, Chrissy, I'm 263 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:02.519 not a local thinker. He's like, I'm not even a 264 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:06.279 worldly thinker. I'm an intergalactic thinker. I'm like, yes you are, 265 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.840 Yes you are dead, Like, yes you are. So I 266 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:12.440 wonder and I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking 267 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.120 into UFOs or you know, I know two thousand and 268 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.720 one Space Odyssey was one of his favorite films because 269 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.639 I think we were arriving and I said to him 270 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:22.519 when I was a little girl before, like or around 271 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:24.519 the same time, I think probably the UFO photo. I 272 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:28.399 forget when I watched it on HBO, you know, at 273 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.799 home watching satellite in the country after school and two 274 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:33.960 thousand and one Space Odyssey comes on, and I'm like, 275 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:37.399 what is this movie. It's on repeat on HBO, and 276 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.559 I'm just like watching it like every moment I could get, 277 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:43.960 And I remember just being enthralled by it. And I 278 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:45.879 told my dad that and he was like, that was 279 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.399 a movie that hooked me too. And then I forever 280 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:51.759 became a Stanley Kubrick like Netso fan of his. After that, 281 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:54.559 I realized all the movies I loved were Stanley Kubrick. 282 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:57.200 When I was a kid. Probably shouldn't be watching a 283 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:58.480 lot of all those when I was really. 284 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:02.360 Young, but well, you know, he was a genius. Pardon 285 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:05.120 he was a genius in a lot of ways because 286 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:08.600 originally he was going to have you know, the ending 287 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:13.120 is such a puzzle, and he was had that, like 288 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:17.440 there was a voiceover talking about what all these events, 289 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:19.600 what that meant with the man in the room, you know, 290 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:23.960 by himself and all the Louis fifteen decorations, and and 291 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.000 then the child, and then he took it out. He said, 292 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.240 let it all be silent, Let it all be silent 293 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:33.720 with no voiceover, and let the people make up their mind. 294 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:36.879 I mean, he's a genius like that. And then and 295 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:40.519 then in space, you know, anytime you watch anything in space, 296 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:44.120 you see this the capsule move and you hear like that, 297 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:46.519 Well there's no note, you can't hear any and so 298 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.000 he did that too. There was absolutely no sound in 299 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.399 these things, all things that you'd want to put special 300 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:55.360 effects into, but he wouldn't do it, you know. So 301 00:14:55.399 --> 00:14:56.679 he's that's a genius. 302 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:59.120 Yeah, he's such a genius when it comes to film. 303 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:02.039 And I remember, like some of the camera movements when 304 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:04.720 I forget the astronauts name, when he gets into the room, 305 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:08.120 he's consistently looking left, and when he looks left, he 306 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.519 watches himself age. And then in the end, yes, yea, 307 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:15.279 his reincarnation and Reworth back into like the system, the 308 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:16.120 or the universe. 309 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.600 You may call it a new start. I think it's 310 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:21.639 all about a new start yea. So now we're at 311 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.519 a really good place because we can talk about how 312 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:30.919 a little bit which I thought was character you know. 313 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:35.639 I mean, it's where we are kind of today in 314 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.759 a lot of ways, you know, with artificial intelligence and 315 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:42.440 where we're headed. And I know that our conversation, I 316 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.720 wanted to talk a bit about this because you've done 317 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:48.320 a lot of looking into AI and different things. One 318 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.519 of them is the neurolink I believe or whatever it's 319 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:56.000 called that Musk is involved in and you know, all 320 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.600 those things, but I want to of course talk about 321 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.360 it in the realm of UFOs because I do believe 322 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:07.039 that it plays a role in the possibility of you know, 323 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.200 we may find out quicker if we're going to find 324 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:14.720 out at all what's going on through the help of AI. 325 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.200 And what are your thoughts in general about that? 326 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:20.960 Yeah, so neuralink or synchron there's in brain. There's a 327 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.960 lot of these different companies around the world now that 328 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:29.039 focus on BCIs, which is considered brain computer interfaces. Brain 329 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.360 computer interfaces started in the nineteen sixties, like they're nothing new. 330 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:36.840 Synchron CEO Tom Oxley was funded by DARPA, and so 331 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:40.759 DARPA was building brain computer interfaces and we could we 332 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:42.279 can look at that, and we can get into this, 333 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:44.039 but we can look at it in many different ways. 334 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:48.480 But it's it's not a new technology. It's an older 335 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.120 well older if you want to consider the sixties older, 336 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:56.399 but more of a retro technology. And so it's and 337 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.720 now it's become real modern day. And you know, the 338 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:01.159 one thing if you're going to say anything about positive 339 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:05.240 about Elon Musk is that he did bring attention to 340 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:09.440 BCIs and it has put lots of investment in funding 341 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:12.359 into multiple different companies, so you know, I know they're 342 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.480 very thankful different CEOs or that because of the attention 343 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:18.440 that's been brought to it. And on the other positive side, 344 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.799 is BCIs have helped will help millions of people. It's 345 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.039 helped a lot of people. Right now, there's less than 346 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:27.079 two hundred people around the world or sorry, one hundred 347 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.599 people around the world that I BCIs, and that will 348 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.519 increase by the end of this year. And Neurlink is 349 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:35.599 looking to ramp up high volume production. They're saying, so 350 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:39.480 that could be thousands to ten the thousands BCIs by 351 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:40.319 the end of this year. 352 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:41.960 But people really do need them. 353 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.440 There's people that have als, or people that are you know, 354 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:48.799 have gone into major car accidents and have become quadriplegics 355 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.960 that need this type of BCI in their brain so 356 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:55.720 that they feel that they're contributing back to society meanfully. 357 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:57.920 And I've met lots of these people that have had 358 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:00.960 a BCI or then they've had it removed. Fortunately because 359 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:04.640 you know, a testing a period was ending. I've interviewed 360 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:07.759 Nolan Arbor from who has the first narrow link. And 361 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:10.039 you know, a lot of these people are so inspirational 362 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:13.160 because you see how much it's helped their lives. But 363 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.359 then you know, there's always the flip side to it, 364 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.279 and that's where I kind of I write about both 365 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:21.559 because we have to start having conversations about BCI now, 366 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.279 because if we don't, it can be a very scary future. 367 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:30.400 Yeah, you know, I mean, I my thoughts about AI 368 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:36.640 in general is the phrase that you hear often here 369 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:41.680 when you look into this topic, is that, well, there's 370 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.799 somewhere between ten and twenty percent chance that it will 371 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:50.720 be you know, an extinction vent event by the time 372 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:54.200 you know the future, will you know it's going to 373 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:57.119 kill us all it's a possibility that it can happen. 374 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:59.319 And they're saying, yeah, well, you know, so much good 375 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:02.400 can happen with you. True, But anything that has a 376 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:07.279 ten or twenty percent, you know, chance of you know, 377 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:12.680 us becoming extinct, it's scary to me because you know 378 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:14.559 what's going to happen is it's kind of if you 379 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.799 look at it, historically, anything that is a higher level 380 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:22.839 of intelligence usually dominates the lower intelligence. It's just you know, 381 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:27.480 human nature or whatever nature, it can be scary. And 382 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:31.000 if it gets to the point where it can self replicate, 383 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:36.480 AGI can self replicate and get you know, super intelligence, 384 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.319 and then it can just fly sky high, and then 385 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:41.319 I think we're screwed. 386 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.839 Yeah, I'm more I'm not so worried about AI individually personally. 387 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:48.279 I'm more worried about when we get to the singularity 388 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:51.799 and we have not figured out, you know, our own 389 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.960 difficulties and our own challenges on this planet without our 390 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.000 technology and artificial intelligence. And when we get to that 391 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.119 singularity and BCI will be part of that, AI will 392 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:06.200 be part of that, there will be I think it 393 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:08.880 could be horrible for us, right for the next generation. 394 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:10.880 We think it's bad now, but if we don't figure 395 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:12.920 things out and we get to the singularity, it could 396 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:15.920 be worse. We look at quantum computing to being you know, 397 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.359 one of those as well. You know, things will change 398 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:22.519 immensely fast. It will be you know, what we're doing now, 399 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:25.599 at least when quantum computing comes around and everything else, 400 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:29.039 this will be archaic how we are talking, how we 401 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:32.559