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into college football inside a big twelve inchsider. Schehan Ja Rajah,

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National college football writer for CBS Sports. Schehan, how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great? Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I appreciate you joining me. What's been keeping you

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busy over the last week or so? What have you

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been cooking up over at CBS Sports?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a lot. You know, obviously there's been

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a lot of the transfer portal movement, so I wrote

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on Oklahoma State yesterday. I've got stories coming on Indiana

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as well, and old Myth and then of course the

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college football playoffs. You know, we're We're only a few

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days away from the national semifinals and in a couple

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of weeks I'll be going out to the national title

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game as well, out in Miami. So it's a busy

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finish to the season, but it's a good one.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about the final four in the

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college football playoff? Did you see it coming? Shahan?

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Speaker 4: Well, if you look at my bracket, I picked one

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of the four correctly. That was the number one seed

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Indiana and the other three to be frank not only

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did I not see coming, I wouldn't have thought that

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any of them had a chance. Oregon probably and I

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probably could have seen that coming. But the other two

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Miami and Ole Miss being in the national semi finals

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over by the way, Ohio State in Georgia, That's not

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something that I saw coming. You know, this has been

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such a fascinating year. You know, obviously people are going

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to talk about like the efficacy of the first round

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by I mean, obviously this was just a situation where

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those four teams or those three teams that beat the

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first round by teams just went out and beat them

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like we're just the better teams on that day. I

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got to see that. With Miami playing against Ohio State

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at AT and T Stadium, we got to see that.

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Of course, with Trinidad Schamblis leading Ole Miss against Georgia,

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Like it is just an unbelievable effort so far, and

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really I think what everybody hope hoped from the college

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is there an issue with the buys? Do you

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take issue with the buye? Do you take issue with

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maybe the neutral site for those games? What do you,

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what do you make of the lopsided record for those

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teams that are having to take those buys or I mean,

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initially you're excited about it, right, you get a buye,

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you know, you survive in advance, but you're playing on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that ultimately, like I think

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that's a lot of the impact on National Playoff itself

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is probably a little overstated. I don't necessarily know that

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they would have changed the results of these games, but

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really many places in sports where you take twenty five

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even for a scene that is really good and really focused.

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one of those first round by teams, you're kind of

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kicking yourself that you don't get a home playoff game.

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the past two years, and so they've never hosted a

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home playoff game, and they've lost their first round game

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as well. I think that that's something that's going to

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be not super palatable for them long term because they

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want that opportunity to host a big game at Sanford Stadium. So,

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much it necessarily mattered. But at the same time, I

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think that when you combine the competitive issues that have

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move to a sixteen team playoff so that the first

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group of teams gets a chance to get into rhythm

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Speaker 3: Final four teams. Right, Indiana, Oregon, olemess Miami has the

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new college fotball landscape allowed the likes of Indiana a

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bottom dweller, the likes of Ole Mesh a middling SEC program,

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and even like Oregon Miami to get into the final four.

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I don't know how many prognosticators experts out there in

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the college football world early on in the season, mid season,

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or even getting into their bracketology, predicted these four getting in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe that. I believe that somebody put out

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a suite that and they just tacked the ESPN that

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you know, this isn't the shot of Esknos doing great job.

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But like their writers, I think didn't get a single

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one of the four final teams in their preseason twelve

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year it's been, right, Like I mean, I know for me,

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like I had LSU before the season as my national champion.

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They end up firing their coach. Penn State was number

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two in the country coming into the year they fire

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their coach. I think that the big thing is obviously Indiana.

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they built with you know, half a roster coming over

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from James Madison and being ready made and having some

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good ideas and also I think having a roster left

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behind by Tom Allen that was maybe a little better

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than people realize. But you know, I think that when

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it creates is that I don't necessarily know that it

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just changes who the top teams are, but it changes

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the level of instability. I guess you could call it, right,

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the level of uncertainty in some of these games. There

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was a time when the best team in college football

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was like ten points better than the fifth team in

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college football. Well now they're like five points better. Maybe

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you know, maybe even less than that. In some cases,

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that's the biggest thing that's changed, right, because I mean,

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like George is still won the SEC Ohio State, still

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played for a big ten championship, but the difference is

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Miami as a ten seed was able to jump up

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and punch them, and that's different than it's been in

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previous years. So I think that when you look at

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the level of coach and player movements, I think that

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you're starting to see that the sport is just more

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uncertain than it's been in previous years. There isn't really

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an Alabama that can stand up and be head and

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shoulders of everybody else. We kind of thought maybe George

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would be that team. They're not, right like they've They've

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been beat these past couple of years. So I think

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that that's the biggest thing that's changed. And then I

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four of these teams, like these are teams that you know,

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to a large extent, built keep hearts of themselves through

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the transfer portal, and so I think that we are

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in a you know, again, Alabama set the standard of

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you recruit players and maybe you add one or two

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guys to fill in a gap, but like you really

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build your roster from the ground up. I think that

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the days of that being the primary and maybe the

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Texases and Georgias and Ohio States, that's becoming harder to

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pull off than ever before.

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Speaker 3: Want to get your thoughts on the Bruce Feldman article.

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I don't know if you've chimed in on this publicly,

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but Bruce Feldman received anonymous quotes from Power Conference coaches

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and one of the quotes is this hard to ignore

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the fact that when everyone got to pay players, it

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leveled the playing field immediately. They can deny all they want,

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but that's a fact. And he's alluding to the SEC

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paying players. You heard the Ed Ordron commentary about donors

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going through the back door. Now they're going through the

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front door. If he gets back into coaching again, it's

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kind of like this. I mean, it's a reality, right,

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building up their brands, building up the equity of those

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brands producing NFL talent over the last thirty years due

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to cheating and bagmen, and that's what the brand was

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built on. Now it's all coming to light that. Look,

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everyone can do it now, and look what's happened in

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to the SEC What do you make of it? How

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do you evaluate it, how do you process it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there are two pieces to this. I

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think one is yes, from the pure player acquisition perspective,

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I think that that's very legitimate, right. I mean you

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see Michigan swoop in at the last minute and take

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the number one recruit in the country Bryce Underwood from LSU,

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because it's no longer blase to do it, Like you

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just have the right to go out there and maximize

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your money. And you know, one thing that I don't

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think people take seriously enough is that there is a

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lot more money in the urban centers in the Midwest

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than there is in the rural South. Like there is

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one total billionaire in the state of Alabama and he's

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an Auburn fan, right, Like, it's it's just that, Like,

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those are dynamics that are going to be hard to

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parse for some of these programs. Also, by the way,

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schools in Texas are absolutely thriving right now because they

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have so much access to capital available to them now.

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is yes, you know, the paying player's piece is a

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huge part of the equation. I actually think though, that

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a coach once before and he said he had coached

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in the Big Ten, he had coached in the SEC,

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had coached in the Big Twelve, he had coached in

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the West Coast, all this sort of stuff. And one

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thing that he said was that he didn't really enjoy

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coaching in the SEC because the SEC is a player

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acquisition league. The Big Ten is a developmental league. Now,

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of course, the Big Ten is more player acquisitions driven

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than it has been in the past. But I think

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that what really has come through is that, like, if

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you are a five star recruit and you go to

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the Big Ten, you don't expect to be a starter

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two thirds of the way through your freshman year, you're leaving.

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the best of their guys, but the second tier of

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guys are just shifting every single year. Well in the

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like guys are staying at Ohio States, guys are staying

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at Penn State, guys are staying at Michigan obviously, you

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know Indiana. Of course, I think that the patience that

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the level that came into the SEC. The SEC, there

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you know, but like as a whole to me, Ryan

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higher like they have. I think that their patients in

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both roster and coaching is paying off, and I think

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that that's why you're starting to see some of these

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programs really elevate above their sec counterparts.

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Speaker 3: Crazy times, no doubt in the college football world. Shehanja

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Raja here on your Utah ESPN Radio network talking some

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college football, Big twelve football, and right now I feel

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like the Big twelve is on chalid footing. I think

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they've performed well in their bowl games. What Texas Tech

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kind of flopped? Does the Texas Tech loss undermine all

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of the good that maybe some of these other Big

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twelve teams have been able to accomplish in the ball season.

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Speaker 4: The short answer is yes. I mean it is definitely

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a damper. I think that it reinforces to a lot

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of people the idea that you know, when Big twelve

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teams get to the playoff, they get sixty five to

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seven like TCU did. Now, I think that again, like

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the game, obviously because of how good their defense was,

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was frankly very close until the fourth quarter. I don't

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think that by any means is you know, the level

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of disaster of some of the ones that we've seen before,

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even if you want to talk about, you know, in

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the old Big twelve with Oklahoma against Joe Burrow getting

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destroyed the way that they did. But I mean, I

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do think that it is real. I think that there

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is a perception that Big twelve teams cannot compete at

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a championship level that they you know, again, we talked

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about the idea of the gap between the number one

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and number five team being smaller than ever before. I

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think that people been in the case of a Tech

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Tech this year, also in the case of the b YU,

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also in the case of the Utah, also in the

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case of you know, I mean Arizona State kind of

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got closer last year. But like I think that people

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view these as being a tier below even the Miamis

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and you know, sort of the second tier Big tenant

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a city teams. And now again I think that that

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Tech was very unfortunate to get the matchup that they did.

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I think that Oregon is just a team that's able

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to really attack you in certain ways and kind of

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maximize their their differential against you, I guess you could say,

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but like the reality is like that doesn't matter, Like

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it doesn't matter if goes on wins the national Championship,

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you still lost that game that way. So I think that, yes,

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it absolutely does hurt. I think that it's will hang

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over this bullseason more than like you said, some of

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the goods that happened with TC beating USC, with YU

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beating Georgia Tech. But I do also think that, you know,

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we also, especially in the big don't need to necessarily

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make every single Bull season a referendum on the conference.

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And I think that long term it's going to be Okay,

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well what are we building towards, right, it's for BYU again,

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like after the investment, you expect to step up with Tech.

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I mean, they have another incredible portal class coming in

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right now. They should continue to be at the highest level.

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You know, people are really excited about the TC quarterbacks

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coming in Jade and Craig. Arizona State's still in good shape.

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Arizona's still in good shape. So like that's ultimately the

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biggest thing at the end of the day is I

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think keeping an eye on the trends. And even though

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I think that Tech Tech really hurt themselves with the

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way things finished, I do still think that the Big twelve,

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like you said, is in very good shape.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. It's something I've been debating

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with friends, some contemporaries, some colleagues of mine. We always

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talk about in college basketball, get old stale, that's maybe

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being undermine now with the college college you to transfer

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portal and now you can bring in like G League players,

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two way players, your league players. I mean, it's getting

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pretty insane, the good old, the get old, stay old mantra.

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I don't know if it's going to be as impactful

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as it has been in the NCAA basketball round. I

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wonder if it's transitioning over to college football. Though you

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mentioned developmental, you mentioned Big ten is still a developmental

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league or developmental conference. I think you said. I wonder

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if you know, you look at Indiana, like their roster

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ranking was like seventy second, and I know they went

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out and got some strategic additions, But did they just

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get old staled and retain somewhat somewhat of their roster?

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They build it off culture and development BYU's football team

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retains a lot of their football players. You're in and

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year out. They'll lose some, but not nearly as many

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as others. They had the seventieth best roster ranking, but

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they developed these guys through a system and had continuity

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in structure and not a whole lot of coaching staff attrition.

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Is that the way of the future for college football

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and not necessarily building via the transfer portal robustly? You know,

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you're talking thirty thirty five plus acquisitions. It's more about

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retention and development this day and age than than in

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other eras.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, so I think again, you know, it is

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a huge I think inefficiency in college football right now

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to have a roster for multiple years. And you know,

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I would say last year winning eleven games, that was

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also a version of it, right, I think the balance

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that you need to sort of have there, right because look,

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let's also be clear, like let's look at these four

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teams that are that are in the college football Playoff

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semi finals, Like they all have huge acquisitions through the

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transfer portal this year. Yes, but I think that also

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players who are able to stay for two or three years.

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That's also a huge part of it. You know, to

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go back to the college basketball comparison. I think about

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a program like Yukon, you know, Huon obviously consecutive national championships,

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and it wasn't that they portaled a team, It's that

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they portaled a team, kept a lot of those guys,

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and then the second year a lot of those guys

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came together. I think that, like in college basketball, there's

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sort of like a lot of conversation right now that

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like the second year transfers are really the ones that

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hit it big because like then they know the system,

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then you know that you're building around them, et cetera,

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et cetera. I think that's going to be the case

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in college football as well, where you know, yes, there's

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value to recruiting an eighteen year old and keeping them

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to win their twenty three. I think there's always going

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to be advantage to that. But I think that even

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if you recruit a guy who's twenty and keep them

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until he's twenty two, I think that there's advantage to

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that as well. And so you know, because again like Indiana,

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you know, again they've portled a lot of guys, a

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lot of those guys that were part of that twenty

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twenty four portal class, and they've been on campus for

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two years and played two full seasons of football, So

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I think it's going to be a balance. I don't

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think certainly that it's going away. The biggest key, though,

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especially and I'll say for Big twelve teams, is once

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you develop those players, you have to find ways to

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retain them, and I think the Big twelve did a

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really good job of that last year. I think that

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this year, for reasons that I think are more program

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driven than necessarily situation driven, it's been less the case.

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So I think that that's going to be long term

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sort of. The big question is when you are able

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to get these players, when you are able to develop

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these players, when you have these players playing at a

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high level, can you maximize by keeping them on campus

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as well?

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Speaker 2: It was really fun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we had a good time, just a bunch of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, seventy dollars bins from home deepot that have wheels

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on it, and the tree still had to go partially

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Speaker 2: The box still. So yeah it did work.

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Speaker 3: Getting ready for the week, man, getting ready for the week,

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getting ready to roll.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you're heading down to the Miami game.

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Speaker 5: I heard, I am yeah you q boys, Yeah, Kilan,

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Speaker 3: And uh, we love Keeling by the way. I love

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and hate him like I love him.

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Speaker 5: I love him, and he's is such a good, good

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individual as a person and and is really out just

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trying to make his mark and do the best he can.

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And you know, I feel for all the forty five

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hundred other people in the portal right now thinking that

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they're going to have a Keeling the year, you know it,

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because very few of them will have that opportunity. But

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but congratulations to killing was able to do that, you know,

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Jake was able to do it.

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Speaker 2: Uh, seeing was able to do it as well. Yeah,

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Josh had a great year.

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Speaker 3: Harrison did okay, He did okay at col but he's

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back in the portal by the way.

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00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,839
Speaker 2: But it doesn't surprise me, you know.

478
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Speaker 5: I mean that once you jump, the second jump is

479
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,200
easier at third jumps even even easier in the fourth one.

480
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: You're diving at first, you know.

481
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,279
Speaker 3: So it's got to be saying for that once you

482
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,000
go portaling.

483
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 5: Well, I did hear you know, I would love to

484
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,400
see some kind of a contractual agreement comes soon in

485
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the nit cuble a which would somewhat limits some of whatever.

486
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Speaker 2: Body's just able to do.

487
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 5: It's crazy, Yeah, it's I mean just every year renegotiating everywhere.

488
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,119
There's no commitment, you know. And and uh, I'll tell

489
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you what next year. I hope I don't have to see.

490
00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:49,480
After much reflection, I'm coming back, you know.

491
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

492
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Speaker 3: That being said, well, have fun down in Arizona.

493
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's gonna be a lot of fun.

494
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,880
I mean, I you know, and for me it works

495
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,640
out great. There's a new wave down in in Mesa.

496
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,559
Uh and so I'm gonna go hit the wave pull

497
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:05,359
real quick and get over to the game.

498
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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a lot of fun.

499
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 5: And I'm excited to just kind of feel that atmosphere

500
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,519
a little bit.

501
00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: I've never been to a game that.

502
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:14,559
Speaker 5: Big and and uh, yeah, it's gonna be.

503
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:15,079
Speaker 2: A lot of fun.

504
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Speaker 3: Do you think Keelan is like what if I would

505
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:19,599
have been at b y U? Or do you think

506
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:22,799
he's like no, not now? How much money do you

507
00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:25,480
think it would have taken take to excuse me to

508
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,839
uh to retain Keelan? Because I think I think he

509
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,200
was approximately I think this is me approximately right, not confirmed.

510
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,519
I thought he was probably like too fitty. I think

511
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:39,440
if we would have got the five hundo we could

512
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have retained him.

513
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Speaker 5: I think, I think probably because that would have put

514
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him in the same category at that point as LJ

515
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,640
and and some of the others at that So I

516
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,640
think at that time he probably would have knowing going

517
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into the season, you know.

518
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:56,039
Speaker 2: But the portal, it's crazy.

519
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,519
Speaker 3: It giveth and it taketh away ahead none of the wait,

520
00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:01,000
so go ahead?

521
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: Did you?

522
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: I was gonna say none of the coach? How many

523
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,359
coaches have portaled? J Hill portaled and then general portaled

524
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,559
offensively though it seems like we no news is good news, right.

525
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we haven't heard anything. I mean that Rod,

526
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:13,960
I'm coming back.

527
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,599
Speaker 3: I want a Leonardo DiCaprio, A Rod videos what I wanted,

528
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,559
like grenation.

529
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,559
Speaker 2: After much.

530
00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:24,839
Speaker 5: Much prayer and thought on us and meeting with some

531
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,799
guys that have bigger calculators, I'm coming back.

532
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,599
Speaker 2: That would be uh, that would be all.

533
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 5: But my assumption is, yeah, I find myself like I

534
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,279
talked to the air text back and forth with Aaron

535
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:41,839
a little bit, and and when he responds right away,

536
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,799
I know things are just being figured out. When he

537
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:46,759
doesn't respond, I feel like they're heavy in some negotiation.

538
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,400
I drove by Saturday and there were a couple of

539
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,240
range rovers parked out in front of that football of

540
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:50,759
the time.

541
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,319
Speaker 2: Who's negotiating what right now? You know?

542
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 5: So I think that because we haven't heard anything, I

543
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,160
think that's a positive.

544
00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: I would assume.

545
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,759
Speaker 5: Now I am an just to see what we are

546
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,079
or we aren't doing in the portal. You know, you

547
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,720
see so much going on in the news, and you

548
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:09,680
see you know, Klonie is always that guy that it

549
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:11,559
kind of tries to keep it tight lit.

550
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: But you know, I want to know what's going on

551
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,519
in the portal.

552
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 5: You know, I would like to see where we're going.

553
00:27:16,759 --> 00:27:18,839
We need to get a d C in there so that.

554
00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: If we can enter. I mean, what we just heard

555
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,039
glasger Glaser's coming back.

556
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,519
Speaker 3: He just great news. That's igh coming back, baby.

557
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:32,039
Speaker 5: So I'm excited about that. And I think, you know what,

558
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,160
I highly doubt that Bear feels like he has to

559
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,960
go online and announce he's coming back. I don't think

560
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:39,240
that that's going to become.

561
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: He hasn't made the announcement yet, but.

562
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:43,279
Speaker 2: I don't think he needs to. I think he's.

563
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: Doesn't need to. I mean everybody else the assumption is

564
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,279
gentry did it. I mean everyone's doing it right, It's

565
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:56,559
all bred at some point Kilani did it? I'm coming back, baby?

566
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm coming back.

567
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: I ain't going to Penn State.

568
00:27:59,839 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: I leave it.

569
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: He had a press conference.

570
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

571
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 5: I hope that it goes away that we have to

572
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:10,519
sit and listen to everybody say that coming back every year.

573
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:13,240
But for right now, the way that the NCAA draws

574
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,039
it up, that's where we're at, you know. And but yeah,

575
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,480
it My assumption is no announcement is a positive for

576
00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:22,279
most of these guys, you know, other than LJ hasn't

577
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,799
announced yet, and his is because of the the NFL,

578
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:30,880
you know. But I don't foresee us losing anybody else.

579
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,319
Speaker 2: You know, in that bad aspect.

580
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 5: So it should be a lot of fun to see

581
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,160
what the next couple of months old. But you know,

582
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,839
what are you thinking on the on the defensive coordinator?

583
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,519
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

584
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: I think this is this is an intriguing situation, right,

585
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:49,119
Like I lean towards Kelly Papinga right now, just because

586
00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:52,279
he's been a coordinator at a P four institution. Yeah,

587
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,839
at Virginia and that was multiple years now. Was he

588
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,599
the primary brake caller? No, but he was the coordinator,

589
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,920
So you're I can game planning, implementation, install. But he's

590
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,839
been on he's been on the field too, uh at

591
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,279
b YU so as he's the special teams coordinator and

592
00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:16,039
and therefore we're you brought a really good point off there.

593
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:17,839
It's like, well we got justin Eno there too, who's

594
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:18,359
been a d c.

595
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:19,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

596
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: He's had DC coordinating, uh you know these coordinating jobs

597
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,079
at Utah State. I think he also was the coordinator

598
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,240
at Utah Tech. So he's been a coordinator.

599
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

600
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 5: Well, and and and the thought I had initially, my

601
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,079
thought was give it to Gennaro, let's bring it. You know,

602
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,400
I don't know the internet. I texted with him a

603
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,319
minute about just congratulating him essentially.

604
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:42,559
Speaker 2: Uh. And I'm a general Gennaro Guildford guy.

605
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:45,799
Speaker 5: I will follow him wherever he goes and and will

606
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,519
love to watch Michigan football because of Gennaro and and

607
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:50,400
because of j so.

608
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:51,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

609
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 5: But but at any rate, I I I don't know

610
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:56,680
blest for train out there.

611
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,519
Speaker 3: No, but we're talking about the d C.

612
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's just so Yeah.

613
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: My thought on Justine it feels like it's going to

614
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:03,680
be an internal hire.

615
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: It should be.

616
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 5: I think I think that we have enough guys there

617
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,720
that could do that. My thought on Justin was that

618
00:30:09,759 --> 00:30:13,000
he's been in the booth with Jay. Ever since Jay's

619
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:13,839
been in the booth.

620
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: And Gary has been up there, he's retained. He's a

621
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,079
senior analyst.

622
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:19,319
Speaker 5: As long as Coloni has been planning for Jay to leave,

623
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,160
which I assume he has almost since day one, because

624
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,079
that's kind of the the way it's worked out.

625
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: And so why not have Justin if that.

626
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,759
Speaker 5: Was your potential go to be their hands on, sitting

627
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:32,480
next to him, listening to every play call and be

628
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:33,000
a part of that.

629
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: So and then maybe the court.

630
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: Where you have a guy, so you could see a

631
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,920
co DC situation occur where Kelly.

632
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,559
Speaker 5: Is on the field justin in the booth something like that.

633
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,880
I mean, there has to be something really cohesive about that.

634
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,759
Those two people, whoever they are, I don't know who

635
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:55,920
Jay would just talking to on the field per se.

636
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,799
But anyways, it's interesting to get everything out there. But

637
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:05,319
I think player wise, and if we are going after

638
00:31:05,359 --> 00:31:07,160
certain guys in the portal, we kind of need to

639
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,759
get that thing settled pretty quickly because you.

640
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,799
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know, maybe we're not after the top

641
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:12,359
five percent.

642
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 5: I don't know, but you know, those that were after

643
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,000
I feel like they probably have a strangle hold on

644
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:20,279
it's probably not the right word, but they probably have

645
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,599
good contact with and and and they probably all know

646
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,200
who the DC is before we will.

647
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,759
Speaker 3: You know, so you mentioned it should be an internal hire.

648
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,400
I've gone back and forth with this with BYU fans.

649
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:36,960
Many BYU fans say this, and what's your retort, what's

650
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,680
your uh, your your commentary to this? They're like, we're

651
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,279
in the we're P four institution worth year three and

652
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,119
going into year four. Why don't we go out and

653
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,200
get Justin Wilcox head Coaching Experience DC. He has been

654
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,119
at all these high level P four institutions. Why not

655
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:57,880
Justin Wilcox? Why not the former Texas DC. Why don't

656
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,480
we go pick off you have as d We can

657
00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:03,279
pay more than them. We were paying Jay more than

658
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:07,519
these other dcs. Let's go get a top twenty five

659
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,000
DC to combine forces with our top twenty five OC.

660
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,720
What's your response? Why internal rather than external?

661
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: Well, I think if you're you're keeping almost the same

662
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:21,920
team together that you had the same almost the same

663
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,559
defense coming back, you know, and so you've already got

664
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:27,920
the system in place, why change the entire system?

665
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: You bring in a new DC.

666
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:33,559
Speaker 5: He's bringing in everything that he does, which is one

667
00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:34,480
hundred percent is.

668
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,839
Speaker 2: Not the same thing that Jay Hill does.

669
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: Luckily, if they retain everybody other than Jay and Gennaro,

670
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,079
you have a whole bunch of staff that has now

671
00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:46,599
worked under that system and can easily transfer that system

672
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,680
and continue to coach, maybe with some twists and some

673
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:50,359
other things that.

674
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:51,279
Speaker 2: They want to add to that.

675
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 5: But there's not a lot of change, you know, with

676
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,279
what happened the first year as good as j Hill

677
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,640
is his first year at BYU, we went five to seven, right,

678
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,680
and so it does take time to implement and get

679
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,319
everybody bought in to that throught. So we want to

680
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:08,720
go in and win big this year with the guys

681
00:33:08,759 --> 00:33:11,440
we have right now. I think you don't change the system.

682
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:14,960
The system's working. The system's working. That's where retention comes in, right.

683
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: And it's the players, you know, And that's I believe.

684
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 5: The coaching has a lot to do with scheme and

685
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,559
getting things together, but in the end, the players have

686
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,119
to play, you know, And I know that it is

687
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,039
about the players, and these guys need to come ready

688
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:27,519
to play, no matter who's coaching them.

689
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: And but we'll get we'll get good coaches in there.

690
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:35,400
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714
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,800
do you think he's an NFL wide receiver? Do you

715
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,599
think he's a draft pick? Or and if he is

716
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:43,679
a draft pick, round would he go? How will he

717
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,519
tested out in a combine situation? Do you think give

718
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,599
me a few like his resume. I'll give it to you. Yeah,

719
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,920
I'll give you his resume six to four two ten,

720
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,599
one hundred and seventy receptions, two thousand five out or

721
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,639
eighty six yards fifteen point two yards per catch, eighteen touchdowns,

722
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:01,800
and you have proved every single year, right year, every year.

723
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,800
Saw that projected forty time per NFL draft scout is

724
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,320
a four to five to four, five to five. His

725
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,920
high school vertical was actually thirty six inches. That was

726
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,000
at the Spark Combine, and he ran a four point

727
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:19,360
zero seven pro agility laser. That's tremendously quick for a

728
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,519
big bodied wide receiver. So we know his route running

729
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:24,599
and his Spark score was one of the top wide

730
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:28,840
receivers in his class. That's his collective explosivity speed. He

731
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,519
ran like a four to seven to three laser in

732
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:33,480
high school, which is fast, right, It's not blazing, but

733
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,480
you know, his hand time probably would have been in

734
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:37,440
that four to six range, and so we imagine he's

735
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,480
got faster. That's that's where we stand. What do you

736
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:41,000
make of it?

737
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 5: Well, he's definitely got the size to compete, and uh,

738
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,920
you know, it'll be interesting to see what kind of

739
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,199
you know, he had hit such a different role this

740
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,639
year than he had even with Retslov because Retzoft would

741
00:35:56,639 --> 00:35:58,760
throw that deep ball a lot more and I think

742
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,239
he was that was kind of his go to a

743
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,480
lot of times, was that deep ball. And you know,

744
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,159
it's see how see how he works out with the

745
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:14,559
speed of the defenses and and I think he is

746
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:20,320
an incredible player as a better even better person. But yeah,

747
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,480
it I think the scheme is gonna be big for him.

748
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,960
He has to fit a scheme where he is. I

749
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,039
think he's a he's not your every down across the

750
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,400
middle guy, you know, but he's big, he's tall, he's

751
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,960
athletic on the outside, you know, and and you know,

752
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:39,320
with some of these guys that might be able to

753
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,559
throw a seventy yard bomb, it could change something for

754
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:43,960
him because he didn't get that this year.

755
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: You know, he got a little bit of that with Jake.

756
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:49,079
Speaker 5: But yeah, I know he's he I could also see

757
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:51,639
him going and not getting drafted and having some free

758
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,159
agent opportunities. You know, it could go either way depending

759
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:58,559
on on what a team's needs are. But they're getting

760
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:02,239
a great, hard worker and somebody that I think deserves

761
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,679
an opportunity for sure.

762
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:07,119
Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Anything else that you're concerned about,

763
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,880
as far as let me give it, I'm gonna I'm

764
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,000
gonna tell you what I'm concerned about. I think our

765
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:16,239
offense was limited because we didn't have a wide receiver

766
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,159
that was consistently capable of winning one on ones all

767
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:21,199
the time. Parker, I think was the closest thing that

768
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,599
we had to chase is a possession receiver. In my opinion,

769
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,440
you can line up ab outside inside, but he's more

770
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,880
of a possession guy. He's quick, not necessarily blazing fast.

771
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:33,480
Cody Kagan has the ability to be that guy. I

772
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:37,360
believe that wholeheartedly. When Cody, I just think he's a

773
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,000
bit discriminated against because he's not as good at stock blocking.

774
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:42,800
If you can't block in this offense, you maybe don't

775
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,760
see the field, you don't get as many targets. I

776
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,039
also think bears arm strength as far as his vertical

777
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:51,320
stuff is maybe a little bit limited, and that limits

778
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,119
Cody Hagen's ability. But do you have to go out

779
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:56,639
and get a couple of wide receivers in the portal?

780
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:58,320
Do you have to go find a keeling.

781
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:01,079
Speaker 2: I say yes, I think that we need Yeah.

782
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 5: So so my thoughts are if you if you look

783
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,199
back between the last two seasons, the we have great

784
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:09,519
receivers on both ears, but the athletic ability of the

785
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:14,679
receivers with with Retsof was higher, you know, and and

786
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,599
with with Darius and with Kewan. So yeah, it would

787
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:20,480
be be great to have another one or two to

788
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:23,000
come in and compete at that position because we're.

789
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: Gonna need it.

790
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 5: We need we need an active second running back that

791
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,960
is dynamic as well, that can catch the ball out

792
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,960
of the backfield and maybe more of a side to

793
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,320
side not a bruiser because we got that with l J.

794
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: Hill bruise and he'll go.

795
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 5: Side to side, but but a real kind of side

796
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,280
to side runner, real quick, uh you know, that can

797
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,599
catch those quick balls and get up field and give

798
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:42,840
l J.

799
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: Rest.

800
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think there's definitely stuff we need to

801
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,079
fill in the portal.

802
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,079
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would agree with you. I think that

803
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,360
getting a couple of receivers would be huge for you.

804
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,679
Speaker 3: You do you have Reggie Frishnet as well. Yeah, the

805
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,519
transfer from Weaver. Can he become a guy? Can he

806
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:58,159
become a dude?

807
00:38:58,199 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: I think he's he.

808
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,119
Speaker 5: I've watched him practice a lot, and I think he's

809
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:03,679
really good. He's got great hands, he's got good size

810
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,639
as well. But it's the thing, you know, I thought

811
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:09,159
Cody Hagen was gonna have a breakout year, and in

812
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:14,199
my opinion, he left something to desire for me. As

813
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,840
I look back on the year, I just feel like,

814
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,599
I don't know if it's getting used to the speed

815
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:21,320
of the defenses, if the physicality of some of this

816
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,679
is more than I don't.

817
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: Know, you know.

818
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 5: But in the end, I thought he would have a

819
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,079
bigger year than he had, and I expect him to

820
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:31,840
have a bigger impact this next year. So whatever those

821
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,079
hurdles are he needs to go through and jump. Hopefully

822
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,360
he figures those out here in the spring and it

823
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,440
becomes a bigger impact player. But we need dynamic guys

824
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960
that can make a double move and be how did

825
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,199
that guy get so wide open?

826
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 2: You know type stuff. We didn't have that this year,

827
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,000
you know.

828
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:50,599
Speaker 5: And although we have great possession receivers, we need.

829
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,599
Speaker 2: That one guy. You know, I would take two.

830
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,159
Speaker 3: But there's a player in the portal from Oregon, six

831
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:01,599
foot six, two hundred and twelve pound junior out of Gilbert,

832
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:04,599
Arizona who's got some connectivity to the program. Tracy Borge

833
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,880
played with this young man in high school, Kyler Casper,

834
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,840
number three. Now, his stats over his career maybe not

835
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,079
extremely impressive, right, he's only got six receptions seventy seven

836
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:21,920
yards twelve point eight yards per reception, But coming out

837
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:26,880
of high school was a four star wide receiver with

838
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,159
offers galore Tennessee, Arizona or is on a state cal

839
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,119
You know, is that what you're looking for? High upside?

840
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:38,000
With two years of eligibility, maybe you can get more reps.

841
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:40,320
But he wasn't able to really break the rotation at all,

842
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,760
break into the rotation at Oregon.

843
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,039
Speaker 2: Well, he's not going to break the bank, you know. Yeah,

844
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,000
you know, coming in, but he's looking at for PT right, he's.

845
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 3: Looking for power, for mid level power for to high

846
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,079
level power forward but with an opportunity.

847
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's not a guy that you would

848
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,480
expect to come in and have that time given to him. Yeah,

849
00:40:58,519 --> 00:40:59,880
you know, he'd have to come in and beat people

850
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:03,920
out in order to play. Yeah, but I think you

851
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,920
need a little bit more proven track record guy to

852
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,280
come in that that has played.

853
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,039
Speaker 3: Would you rather take a four star limited productivity at

854
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:15,320
the P four level with high upside or take a

855
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920
Darius Lasterer type that was at like Eastern Michigan but

856
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,480
had like forty to fifty catches for seven hundred yards

857
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:22,199
eight touchdown.

858
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 5: I'd rather take a Juco guy that had seventy five

859
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:30,519
catches really because that guy is coming off games playing, playing,

860
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,880
not just and and then being the best, you know,

861
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,480
at his spot. And so I buy into playing time

862
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,159
and and it kind of goes with with the whole

863
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:41,880
playoffs series that we just have.

864
00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:43,119
Speaker 2: We can't except for.

865
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:46,599
Speaker 5: Indiana, which a pretty incredible team, But you watch these

866
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:49,519
teams come in, they've been sitting for almost a month

867
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,039
and they come into play football. So imagine, you know,

868
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:53,920
you're kind of the practice guy and you're you're not

869
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,719
getting that game experience, that game time. These guys that

870
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,880
are playing and they have that kind of receptions and

871
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,440
they're in a good league, Uh, they're worth looking at it.

872
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:06,000
I think that they come in and compete just as hard,

873
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,840
if not harder, than some of the guys that are

874
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,880
transferring around like that.

875
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:11,599
Speaker 2: So I'm big on Juco guys.

876
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 5: If you can find good Juco guys that that are

877
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,199
have proven track record and good like our Southern California

878
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,679
junior college leagues are just phenomenal, you know, and there

879
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,360
are a lot of really good start came out of there.

880
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,639
Speaker 3: You know, just what about a bounce back. Duco Sioni

881
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,840
le Lao, who was at Orgon as well LDS four

882
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,920
star defensive back that struggled to break the rotation, was

883
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,960
a JUCO player College of San Matteo. He had offers

884
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,679
from pretty much everywhere. His first offer out of Juco

885
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,599
was actually b Yu. But he saw the glitz and

886
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:52,119
glamour of Phil Knight and the swoosh, and he said,

887
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,880
I want it, I want it all and uh and

888
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,280
now he's he's back in the portal. Should be an

889
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,079
opportunity for b Yu to, Hey, we because we could

890
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:05,719
lose some guys. Yeah, we could lose Evan. Do you

891
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,079
think what's the price possible?

892
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: You know, I thought about I know you're a.

893
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: Big fan of Gennaro and j those guys. They could

894
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,199
be knocking on Evan's door.

895
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: If I'm everyone's talking to Evan. I mean, Evan and

896
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:22,760
his brother are both I really really like this. These guys.

897
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 5: They come from a great family, great parents. I've spoken

898
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,960
to parents a number of times. They're just good people

899
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:31,079
and I would I would hate to lose them. On

900
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:33,079
the other hand, you know, it's hard, you know, if

901
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:36,480
you look at if he's if he's stepping in to

902
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,199
a potential starting role. And let's just say they offer

903
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,360
his brother a real job and he's no longer a GA.

904
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,239
You know, b YU hasn't offered him at least up

905
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,800
until I know, and so that could be a great question.

906
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Western, great dude. I hope we offer him, you know,

907
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:57,719
or I hope he gets offered positions something in the Defense.

908
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,079
I think.

909
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:00,519
Speaker 5: I mean, he's been, he's been the he's one of

910
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,880
the signal guys for the Defense now, and he's a

911
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,320
he's a great guy.

912
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:05,599
Speaker 2: Good guy to have around.

913
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: But yeah, I could wouldn't shock me if him and

914
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:11,000
Evan I took the opportunity and went to Michigan.

915
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: I just don't know Michigan's depth. I don't know what

916
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,599
they need, you know. Sure tough to say.

917
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,159
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Jay Raja Big Cougaroda, Aeron Torres, Chris Cartman, Kevin Young,

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Brent Hammer, Brandon Gerdy, of course Ronald the three Man Weaver,

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Fantastic Plastic Show as always here on your Utah ESPN Network.

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We bid you farewell, we bid you adieu, and we

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love you, we appreciate you, and from all of us

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here at ESPN the Fani, we wish you a very

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good night, have a very safe night with your friends,

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your family members. You've been listening to Cougar Sport