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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It is Friday. It's time for

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full court press, Robino. It took I guess, the threat

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of the storm of the century, but we finally have

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a respectable Friday slate. It didn't need to be this hard. NCAA,

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you could just give this to us every Friday. But

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we've got a bunch of weather cancel ate well not

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really cancelations, a bunch of weather rescheduled games moved up

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from Saturday to today. So we'll help you sort that out.

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Some games are not gonna have fans. I see that.

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Some are being played where they're gonna kind of do

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like Colorado did the other day, where it's like, hey,

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the roads are bad, we're gonna play this game.

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Speaker 2: You're not invited.

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Speaker 1: So there's a couple of those, so you know, gonna

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gonna have to do your due diligence and just see

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what the logistics are. But it should be a fun day,

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it feels, Robino. It feels like one of those early

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in the week nca conference tournament days where it's like

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the American is playing all day long and some of

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the other conferences. So welcome in, And I know your

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night went better than mine because I got my five percenter,

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daggered at the buzzer.

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Speaker 2: So how Thursday go for you?

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Speaker 3: Thursday went three and two in college hoop four and

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two overall, had an NBA winner with it. The college

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winners skimmed right by on the Denver North Dakota State

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full game total over one fifty eight and a half.

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Got to thank you for the half point win. The

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FIU team total went over the number, and there was something.

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Oh yes, the Texas State Coastal Carolina game I bet

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over one forty got to one. Texas States kind of

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under the radar putting up points this year. Adam took

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a shot with them against CCU, off a bad previous

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I the losers. Of course, you know it had to

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go wrong in the parlay Right Sacred Heart game total

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over one forty three, only one thirty nine, So that

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was bad, as was. I stayed up till I don't

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know midnight, little after midnight, which is the norm around here,

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but to watch Fullerton in Long Beach and attempt that

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game to get over, which it was never close. Some

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horrendously bad shooting by LBSU last night. So three and

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two again, another winning day. We'll take it in on

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the Friday we go.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I went straight to bed.

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Speaker 1: I didn't stay up to watch any of the West

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Coast games I had, so my I've made two five

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percent plays.

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Speaker 2: Across all sports in the month of January so far.

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Speaker 1: Those were Rams minus three and a half, which, of

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course was was lost on the Caleb Williams heave of

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the century thrown to the end zone.

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Speaker 2: And then I had Merrimack.

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Speaker 1: Last night at pick and an eighty six percent re

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throw shooter went to the line up to fourteen seconds

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to go. So that can only end one way, right,

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rob eighty six percent free throw shooter misses the front

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end of one and one and then sure enough down too.

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Speaker 2: I own it doesn't just tie it. They go for

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the corner three for the win.

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Speaker 1: Off air, I told you it looked like a very

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easy under it it was, of course, I was nowhere

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near the under. I was on Merrimac and so a

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split for me. Yesterday one and one I had Austin

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p which won easily. But yeah it listen, guys, I

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felt like the I felt like I deserved event for

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the first four minutes of the show. So without further ado, well,

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we're gonna try to get back.

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Speaker 2: We got to hit a parlay.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try to find winners, and this is a

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great slate to do so, Rob, because all of a

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sudden we have all these games, but I'm gonna start

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in the Big ten. We teased this earlier in the

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week on this show, maybe this being the better spot

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for Michigan. So the other night when we talked to Michigan,

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it was Indiana. I noted that Michigan, Man, they've really

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had some massive numbers inflated spreads. And that's, I guess,

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not the surprising part. But to me, the surprising part

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is they've now I believe, gone three or well, well

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they lost, they actually have gone like five straight. You

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would have to go back to that Friday night when

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I was in that random hotel doing the show Rob

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that I just walked in and hopped on their internet

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to find the last time Michigan covered a game. That

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was a Friday night game against usc Since then, a

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two point win to Penn State, they have their first

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and only loss of the season to Wisconsin in the

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game that they were heavily favored in.

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Speaker 2: They go out west.

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Speaker 1: They didn't cover against Washington, they didn't cover against Oregon

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still won both of those games by ten, so a

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couple double digit wins, but they don't cover. And then

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they come back against Indiana and they failed to cover

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that game. They were a fifteen and a half point favorite,

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they win by fourteen. So here I am Rob thinking, Okay,

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this is the spot, this is the night for Michigan.

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Yet the books won't budge. They're right back here at

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fifteen to fifteen and a half. So as much as

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I think Michigan's maybe due to sort of you know,

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lay into someone, the books I think are are kind

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of on that that sort of wavelength to so anything

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for year here Ohio State Michigan, and talk to me

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about the number being as high as it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might take some time, right, Adam. I mean

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they probably raised power ratings so high during the non

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conference season, and I know we had multiple discussions. I

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can even remember when BP was with us having a

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discussion about you know, some of these teams you just

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can't drop them enough, you can't raise them enough. And

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for the book makers Michigan, the way they were blowing

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people out and the way they were scoring points, all

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you could do was raise, raise, raised, raise, raise, until

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conference season hits, and they look good the other night

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and still couldn't cover. I mean, they played a good

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game eighty six seventy two plus twenty two with ten

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minutes to go in the game, kind of let off

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the gas at that point in time, only win by fourteen.

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So the underdog gets to cover. And I'm with you,

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it's a team that is you know, they came off

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that West Coast road swing, right, they played two up

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in the Pacific Northwest, came home, did the job, but

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overvalued still potentially against an Ohio State team that went

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overtime with Minnesota the other day picked up a win.

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I just this one would be hard for me where

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points bridge is concerned, because, like what happened to Michigan

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the other night with Indiana, Ohio State has as much

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backdoor potential offensively as does Indiana. So last six minutes

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it went wrong the other night for Michigan, got Doug

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to cover. Maybe it happens again, but their scoring seems

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to be back. The first thing I checked in this

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game because Ohio State not very good on the defensive

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end as far as conference play is concerned. Eighty nine

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and a half for Michigan. You still have to get

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to ninety. So when you were saying they won't budge

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on the number before, they won't budge on the total either.

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They're still gonna make you get to ninetysistantly in conference play.

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If you want to take the Michigan side over, this

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could be a game where the full game goes over

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one sixty four and a half. Eric, excuse me, one

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sixty five and a half. That one sixty four and

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a half is from earlier. It's been bet up four

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and a half points. I don't disagree with it, only

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because Ohio State's more app to get caught up in

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a high scoring game than Indiana was in the Indiana

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game got all the way to one fifty eight. So

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I don't love it, Adam, I don't love it from

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side perspective. I don't love it from totals perspective either,

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But I would lean towards this game being higher scoring,

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maybe above the one sixty five and a half. And

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we've seen early money push it down right sixteen down

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to fifteen and a half. So a lot of people

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out there making early morning decisions and overnight decisions the

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way we're doing right now seem to agree that maybe

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Michigan's just overpriced right now.

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Speaker 1: Still, yeah, I see fourteen as we speak, I see

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the board going to fourteen and a half some places.

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And you know, if you look through what Ohio State

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has done this year, it's really hard to make a

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case for them, like an actual, like really good case

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to say, hey, they're just gonna get destroyed in this game.

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They really haven't gotten killed yet. Their five losses were

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a one point loss with the buzzard to pit. They

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lost by eight to Illinois, who is you know that

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game was in Columbus, so I think that that's a

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you know, comparable type game.

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Speaker 2: They lost by one to North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: They lost by three to Nebraska, which maybe that's a

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comparable game as well. At this point, I don't think

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Nebraska is as good as Michigan. But they've been really

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really good this year, no question about it. And then

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they go on the road and lose by by seven

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at Washington, So you know they haven't they don't have

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a double digit loss yet. That being said, the path

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to a double digit loss, yere, they're gonna get.

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Speaker 2: Killed on the glass probably in this one.

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Speaker 1: Michigan as good of a rebounding teams you're going to find.

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So you know, if Michigan suddenly sort of feeds off

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the home crowd, they're getting a couple easy buckets, like

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they could definitely pull away. But like you said, if

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I think if you like the over, you've got to

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think that Ohio State probably covers like maybe a little

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bit of correlation there. Ohio State offensively, you know, they're

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they're hitting nearly fifty percent from the field as a team,

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they hit their file shots.

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Speaker 2: The one area you could really get them in.

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Speaker 1: The only way Michigan probably covers this game, Rob is

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if Ohio State comes out has a really cold night

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shooting the three, which they can if they get three happy,

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it's not in their best interest I think to just

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like be shooting a ton of threes because collectively as

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a team, I don't think they shoot the three great.

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And then it would be just Michigan getting second chance

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points and having like the ultra efficient game that sees

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them pull away and win by like seventeen or eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Just not enough wiggle room there for me.

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Speaker 1: As I said earlier this week, I thought this would

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be the spot I'd want to come back with Michigan.

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They're tempting me. Fourteen and a half certainly gets tempting

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right there. But that is where my number landed. I

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think that's literally what my number came out on this game,

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Michigan minus fourteen and a half. So Gut says, this

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is the spot that Michigan just goes off and ripped someone,

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and that someone is Ohio State who rob veno. Ohio

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State covered seven and a half last time out, but

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very deceiving. That was an overtime game. The dogs go

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to die overtime moment last time I believe was Minnesota

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who was a seven and a half point favorit and

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lost by eight to Ohio State and ot. So yeah,

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I think I lean Michigan, but definitely not going to

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be a play for me here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not in Ohio State's nature either, Adam to

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go just all out from beyond the ark. They're going

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to get or attempt to get to the rim inside

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the arc. They shoot it really well in there. The

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problem is Michigan's bigs defended so well in there unless

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they're fast break points or you know, at vantage numbers

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points three on two's, four on threes, etc. It's tough

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in the half court, so we'll see. I do agree though,

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I think that Michigan both side in total right now

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a little bit. And you talked about paying a premium

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tax on some of these teams. Exhibit A, Michigan, you're

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paying a premium tax on these guys right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were people that said Michigan had one of

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the best non conferences in like the history of the sport.

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So that's probably where you're you know, even not covering

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five straight like like you said, maybe they just still

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are are They're still being asked to lay a premium

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number with them, but that should be an interesting one.

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I think the books kind of nailed that one. Okay,

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real quick, Shane in the chats is, are you guys

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doing a show tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I believe we are.

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Speaker 1: We still Rob and I are trusted during the week,

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but on the weekend we will have our babysitter with us,

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Kelly Stewart, to keep us on task. I think we're

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doing the same format where Gianni was first, sort of

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get you all the sharp stuff that that's being played

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since there's a trillion games, although this week will be

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a little bit more manageable since they moved some of

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them to today and then Rob and I'll come on

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for like the last forty five minutes. Answer your questions.

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Try to hit the big games, you know, sneak a

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small game in there. You're not gonna get listen, you're

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not gonna get me for forty five minutes without finding

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my way to talk about some like random game that's

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on the board. So yeah, we'll be on tomorrow with

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you guys for an hour or the show will be

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an hour, Rob and I probably about forty five minutes.

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All right, let's head back to the chat. No Oh,

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I see Noah in there, says did anyone play the

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tous in under? It did get there, So props to Noah.

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I know he liked that yesterday. It did get there.

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Joey ches shouting out my buffalo hoodie. Great, great catch there.

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This is not the most in your face hoodie, very

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low key. You see the little bull icon there. Well,

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we can go there. Rob you know you know what,

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you know what, And and Garth I just saw yours

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come in, So we'll go Buffalo. You mass first get

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a little mac basketball and then we'll go to your

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your East Tennessee game. But Robino, you know what pisses

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me off. When they move conferences around is one thing. Okay,

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they ruin all the rivalries that I grew up with

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Syracuse getting to play Georgetown in conference they you know,

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all of that's fine, but do not don't just decide

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that something's going to be a rivalry.

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Speaker 2: That is what they have done with Buffalo, you Mass.

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Speaker 1: They they they basically decided, hey, you two are rivals.

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Now we're gonna call it the Flagship Cup or the

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Flagship Rivalry. And these two schools gotta be going what

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like U Mass has got to be like, why do

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I care about Buffalo and vice versa.

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Speaker 2: But they, you know, I know, it became a football

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team thing. This year. They made a trophy for it.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming they're gonna want to push these guys as

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rivals in the MAC Conference. I think that's ridiculous, but

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they are the two most Eastern MAC schools. So interesting

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game Alumni Arena tonight in Buffalo, New York.

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Speaker 2: The Bulls have played well.

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Speaker 1: Man, I thought they were gonna hand Miami of Ohio

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their first loss, but it looks like that team is

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just unbeatable.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo did get the cover in that game.

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Speaker 1: They took that one to Ot and then lost on

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a buzzer beater in ot So fell to the Team

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of Destiny, turned around and just didn't have anything against

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Akron the following game. Rob they have four straight losses,

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but Buffalo just faced Murderer's Row in the mac Ohio

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Kent State Miami of Ohio. Akron is a home game

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against UMass or the remedy for this Bulls team.

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Speaker 3: In your opinion, it better be because Bowling Green is

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on Dick, so the Murderer's Row continues for Buffalo. I

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think it's a good situational spot for Buffalo. Sickly based

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down I'll use Part A is what you just said.

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Played Kent extreme tough, played Miami into overtime. Those are

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exhausting games. Those are draining games. You come back, you

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play Acron a third straight big game. They just didn't

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have any gas in the tank. But they get to

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stay home, you know, Tuesday to Friday, a couple of

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days off, get to stay on their own home floor.

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Now they get you mass. The UMass three point defense

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could be an issue because they're pretty good and Buffalo

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likes to shoot it from three. They're very good at it.

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But Buffalo's been good all around offensively this season, number

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forty five in the country in effective field goal percentage.

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They don't turn it over. That's a good matchup for

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the Massachusetts squad, which I know. When I get done here,

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I would hope that you can go on your Massachusetts

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rant that I've heard two or three times so far

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this year, how Frank Martin should get out and U

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mass should be beating some of the weaker teams in

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this league, but they haven't done it right. U Mass

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comes up with a win over Toledo, a game where

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they could simply outscore a defense that you know, for

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a good team might be one of the three worst

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defenses in the league in Toledo. So you Mass got

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to eighty four at home, eighty four eighty two win,

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high possession game. I don't know that that happens here

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on the road, Adam, and I don't know how it

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is yet in Western New York for this matchup in Buffalo.

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But this weather and the situations that weather's going to

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create for travel for teams, probably more so tomorrow where

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we are on the East coast mid Atlantic than it

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will tonight. But I don't think Massachusetts can get it

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done here on the road against Buffalo. Like I say,

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good situational spot. You have a big game on deck

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with Bowling Green next week. You can't lose the winnable

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games if you're Buffalo. At this point in time, statistic

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or excuse me, records inside the MAC indicate that Buffalo

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can move up a couple of slots here just by

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winning games and become a higher seed in this tournament.

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but I think it's important when you have to win

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your winnable games. So for me, it would probably be Buffalo.

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I don't know that UMass and their three point defense

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will be enough to stop Buffalo, which can score at

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multiple levels on the floor, so that'd be my way

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to go here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just give a blanket statement about the weather

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up in our neck of the woods is a non factor.

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Speaker 2: This is just Friday here.

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Speaker 1: It is not a like what we aren't even getting,

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Like the snow and stuff that will get in the

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Buffalo in Central New York area is just standard.

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Speaker 2: It's not like anything crazy.

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Speaker 1: I know some guys going out to the Bonnies game today,

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there's just no there's just no worry of like a

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little bit of snow up here. The belt that's coming

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through that's going to affect a lot of these games

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is far more like mid Atlantic. So even though we

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might get some of that fringe snow from this storm,

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it's like nothing compared to like what a normal storm

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would be in this area. So yeah, I would the

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New York teams I don't think are going to be really.

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Speaker 2: Affected by whether.

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Speaker 1: Now, if a team is trying to travel from that

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from a from the mid Atlantic or the middle of

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the country up here, that's a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: But no, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Mass Buffalo game is anything to

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be concerned about with weather. I'll tell you what, Rob,

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I'd be concerned with trying to back you Mass on

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the road like they're not. That's not really a team

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I want to back in a road game. They lost

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in Northern Illinois a couple of weeks ago on the road.

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Speaker 2: That's a bad loss. I took a I learned my lesson.

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Speaker 1: I backed you Mass, got a good number on them

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on the road at Eastern Michigan earlier this year, and

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they choked that game away. Eastern Michigan and Northern Illinois

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are are far worst teams in Buffalo. In my opinion,

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losing at Ohio is not a big deal. Amazingly and

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I just have to double check this. Uh that may

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have been a neutral. Yeah, that was so U Mass

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somehow beat somehow beat Florida State earlier this year, and

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I believe they won another road game. I'm trying to

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figure out which one they actually want. Oh, Western Michigan,

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who's one of the worst teams in the league. So again,

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you got Buffalo coming in off four losses. You Mass

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is not a team I really want to back on

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the road. Like, here's the thing. This is now you

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Mass minus two and a half. Okay, so this opened

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like right around pick U Mass took the money to

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two and a half. I could only play back at that,

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just like kind of knowing the state of the UMass program.

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Frank Martin, you said you wanted me to talk about

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Frank Martin. I think he's been really a swing and

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miss here. He's injected no juice back into this program.

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Like there's no like I thought when he took over

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that might be, you know, maybe he would bring you

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Mass basketball back a little bit.

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Speaker 2: He hasn't. It's an undisciplined team.

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Speaker 1: They turned the ball over like all the things that

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you don't want out of a team playing it, like

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going on the road to play like a tightly contested game.

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So again, another one that's probably not gonna make my card.

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But after this move up to U Mass, mind is

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two and a half, We're getting into the territory where

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I'd be willing to punch back a little bit, I think,

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so I'll lean toward Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing the shirt, but it's not going to make

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my client card.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, this is, but Bayu's got a good point here,

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So I think U Mass gets Miami of Ohio next,

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and that is.

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Speaker 2: Now officially a huge look ahead spot.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's going to want to give their best to Miami

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of Ohio at this point.

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Speaker 3: Real quick, anybody looking at totals in that game, you

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Mass is six and one. Their games are six and

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one to the over last seven. Buffaloes are four and

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one to the over last five. Numbers high, rightfully so,

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but these teams have had a knack of getting up

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and over this particular number four U Mass three of

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the six that have gone over or for the six

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excuse me, all exceeded this total. So these teams aren't

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adverse to getting to one sixty in this game. For

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anybody looking at totals, you might want to look that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just one more thing on the total, which

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I very much agree with.

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Speaker 1: You know, Buffalo so thirteenth in the country three point

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shooting percentage, You mass will give you the three they don't.

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It's not like they're a great shot contesting team. And

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the other thing is there's probably three points here for Buffalo.

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You Mass three hundred and thirty seventh nationally in that

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turnover metric that I referenced earlier. You're just they don't

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take care of the ball, and I think that that

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ultimately probably cost them. Here, I'll lean toward Buffalo, all right, Garth,

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I see you in there with the donation. We appreciate

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all you, but we got to shout Garth out. He

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comes in here, hits us with a donation, hits us

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with a game to talk about.

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Speaker 2: It is a total.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna kind of set this one up

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quick and say, you know, the citadel has come up

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a couple of times on this show. I said earlier

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in the season that I thought they'd be one of

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the worst teams in college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Rob.

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta be honest, I kind of lost

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track of them for a minute, so quick Citadel sort

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of pulse check here they've they've started winning games. I

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knew they won one, That's where I was going with that.

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But the Citadel, who I said might not win a

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conference game this year, has now won three of their

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last four games, and I think that speaks to just

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how bad this conference is this year. This is as

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bad as I can remember the SoCon in a very

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long time. And I think that maybe Citadel is a

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little bit better than I expected, But I also.

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Speaker 2: Think the conference is really really down. Rob.

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Speaker 1: They come off the win over Firman, which has got

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to be the biggest win they've had in years now.

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They hit the road to East Tennessee State, but start

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me off with a total Garth likes the over How

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are you seeing this one?

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Speaker 3: Money has come the other way. Not to say that

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money's right, because in college basketball, totals money is wrong

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just as often as it is right. You got to

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learn that ahead of time. Not to be scared off

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of totals one way or the other by the money move.

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A lot of it's done on individual metrics, a lot

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of it's done on some sort of injury bias. In

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this case, Garth, I'm not going to talk you off

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of your full game total, but I do worry about

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the ETSU defense being too good for Citadel to score against.

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If I was gonna look here, I'd probably prefer to

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play the over where East Tennessee is concerned. That's seventy

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eight and a half their team total. I'd probably isolate here,

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not trusting Citadel to get their share of the work done.

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A team that does not shoot the ball well from

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anywhere on the floor, and a team that's going up

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against a defense that you know arguably is the best

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in the Southern Conference right now, home game for them.

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Citadel's a little bit dependent upon the three, and they

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don't even shoot the three that well this year. So

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I mean to me, I would think that the East

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Tennessee State I haven't played the game, but just general

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overview here for me would be isolate the game. Play

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East Tennessee State to get the seventy nine points. I

478
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,839
think that's the safer side. You've got to Swiss cheese

479
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,480
d defense. On the other end, it could be that

480
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,640
the game gets there because Etsu lets up in the end,

481
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,039
or it could be that the game gets there because

482
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,519
the Etsu gets to eighty five and at that point

483
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:13,599
all you need is fifty six out of the other side,

484
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,200
which isn't asking a lot. So again, I wouldn't talk

485
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,960
you off a full game. My preference would just be

486
00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:21,960
to isolate Etsu and play their team total.

487
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:27,279
Speaker 1: Over rob I like that. Look, let's talk little logistics here.

488
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,880
Citadel just one in overtime game with Furman got to

489
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,599
be the biggest win they've had in a really long

490
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,839
time on their home floor. A twelve point underdog, they

491
00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:40,400
go to ot with the You know, this is a

492
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,880
team that I don't believe won a conference game last year.

493
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,480
It's one thing to get a win over Western Carolina

494
00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:47,799
who's also struggling. It's another thing to get a win

495
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:50,440
over vm I, who's also been at the bottom of

496
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,279
this league. Those are those are games that, like Citadel

497
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,240
has a reasonable chance in. But to beat Furman, a

498
00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:58,839
team that's sort of been a powerhouse in this league

499
00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,720
for years.

500
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:01,759
Speaker 2: Is a a massive accomplishment.

501
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: And the reward for that is a road trip to

502
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:08,960
East Tennessee State, who's arguably.

503
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,279
Speaker 2: You know, I would say they're right up there. They're

504
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:11,880
six and one.

505
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: They're probably the best team in this league this year.

506
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,640
And the game getting moved up a day because I

507
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,920
believe this game was supposed to be tomorrow, and I

508
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,799
believe this is one of the games, even though it's

509
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:22,640
not a day game.

510
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:25,759
Speaker 2: I do believe because it's on the right in right.

511
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,519
Speaker 1: And board, I'm pretty sure this one got moved from

512
00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:29,480
Saturday to Friday.

513
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:34,039
Speaker 2: So for East Tennessee State, no big deal. They're at home.

514
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to come back from Chattanooga where they

515
00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:38,720
played on Wednesday, But no big deal. They're playing out.

516
00:25:38,759 --> 00:25:40,440
You know, they're back home. They're probably going to go

517
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,880
through their normal thing for Citadel. Now you come off

518
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,640
the OT game, now you probably have to scramble to

519
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,799
move your travel up a day, right, Like, I feel

520
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,519
like they're gonna get blasted here, so.

521
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: I would lean toward again.

522
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,799
Speaker 1: Numbers is somewhat right in range with like, let me

523
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:01,799
find what I was on. I think like seventeen point four,

524
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,920
seventeen point six something like that. I'm seeing seventeen seventeen

525
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,640
and a half across the board. Actually, it looks like

526
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,720
this one's pretty much seventeen just about everywhere, so i'd

527
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:12,640
lean towards East Tennessee. But I think I like your

528
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,319
look there, Rob. I think this is a good look

529
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,680
toward the team total over because listen, if Citadel doesn't

530
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,359
have it, or if they run out of gas because

531
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,039
they maxed out against Furman, it might be a layup

532
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:24,079
line for the Bucks here.

533
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,079
Speaker 2: So I think I'm with you. I like the team total.

534
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and real quick, Garth. Just when Adam referenced the

535
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,480
overtime game against Furman, it made me look real quick.

536
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:38,440
Full game results for the Citadel in their last four

537
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,960
show that they've gone all over this particular total tonight. However,

538
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,480
at the end of regulation, three of those games were overtime,

539
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:47,279
not just the one that Adam referenced. Three of their

540
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,039
last four of going ot those games ended regulation at

541
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:55,079
one thirty four, one twenty four, and one forty two,

542
00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:58,279
which is barely over what we're asked to get to tonight.

543
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:01,880
So they've been over time aided to get to this

544
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,759
particular number. The game in between, of course, is vm I,

545
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:08,160
where VMI is fairly defenseless as well. She would expect

546
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,960
that when to get better than one forty and a half. Again,

547
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,200
I'm not here to talk you off of what you like.

548
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,079
I just think I would prefer the ETSU side to

549
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:16,720
do their share.

550
00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: We got Ski profit in the chat right here. He's

551
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,680
I mean, this is he's up early. I mean maybe

552
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,160
he gets up at this time every day. I know

553
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,200
it's probably like seven am out where he is. He said,

554
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,680
he just realized there's early games today. Yeah, there's a

555
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,920
whole bunch of early games today because of the weather.

556
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,319
So shout out Ski. We'll have to get him to

557
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,680
the Northeast sometime. Rob, I don't know if he's ever been.

558
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:42,160
We got to get him to the Northeast, like when

559
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,359
it I want him to see snow, like kind of

560
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,079
like when I had Bayu up here and I just

561
00:27:46,079 --> 00:27:49,119
threw it in four wheel and was going seventy down

562
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,920
the highway when it was snowing out. Like That's what

563
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,559
we got to get him up here for that. But yeah,

564
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:55,440
a bunch of early games. I see you guys in

565
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,119
the chat now. This I believe Rob Bino was a

566
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,319
regularly eduled noon tip. I don't think there's any weather

567
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,960
affecting the New Haven Chargers today in their home game

568
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,599
against Mercyhurst, and I see a couple of people asking

569
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,079
about this. So Andy Lank says Ski, is Ski just

570
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,440
waking up or is he just getting home?

571
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: I don't know.

572
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: Thursday last when I hey, listen, when I used to

573
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:24,680
back in my twenties when I could like drink and

574
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,680
go out and not like be deceased the next day, Rob,

575
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:31,480
Thursdays was a great night, so you never know it

576
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:31,920
could be.

577
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,279
Speaker 2: But can't do that anymore.

578
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,319
Speaker 1: Ski says he's gonna come out one day, promises Colin.

579
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:39,799
We got this early Neon tip for you. I think

580
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,640
this was on the schedule as is, because I remember

581
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,039
when I was mapping out potential games, I was like, oh,

582
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:47,400
I could probably get over to get a day game

583
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,119
at New Haven.

584
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:49,839
Speaker 2: I'll see if I can get to something at night.

585
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,920
So I'm not going to do that.

586
00:28:51,519 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving the house for the foreseeable future, maybe

587
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:55,240
till next week.

588
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:55,599
Speaker 3: Rob.

589
00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: But New Haven the Chargers, we talked about them last time.

590
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,480
I'm being in maybe a tough spot having to go

591
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,920
all the way out to Chicago after back to back wins.

592
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,000
They played a great second half in that game, so

593
00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:12,119
that that game we talked about on Monday, New Haven

594
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,039
went out to Chicago. They trailed for about thirty minutes

595
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,319
and then they sort of locked in to win a

596
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,680
very ugly sixty two to fifty six game against Chicago State.

597
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: This is going to be a tougher game.

598
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: Mercy Hurst has been one of the more impressive teams

599
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,640
in this league, you know. And the interesting thing, Rob

600
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,759
is they're just they're only three and three, But if

601
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:35,079
you've watched mercy Hurst this year, they have some really

602
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:38,519
impressive results just in general. The win over Loyal in Chicago,

603
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,720
they played, you know, they played Miami of Ohio way

604
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,319
back when to a five point final in a game.

605
00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:47,440
I watched every possession of that game. It was a

606
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,559
very competitive, good game. I want to say that it was.

607
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,440
They were like a fifteen point underdog. They hung around

608
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,759
with Marshall, they hung around with Syracuse only lost by fourteen.

609
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,519
And then they got in the league play, knocked off Lemoyne,

610
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,960
who's been decent, and then most recently, the most impressive

611
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,799
result they've probably had all season, they destroyed Central Connecticut State.

612
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just better than New Haven.

613
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:19,079
Speaker 1: And you know, I think I gotta double check my

614
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,079
number here because some of these were popping up late.

615
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,079
I want to say they're a I gotta find the

616
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,039
number here I have lost there we go, Yeah, like

617
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,480
you mean to tell me we're gonna get mercy Hurst

618
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,559
at noon?

619
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: You know, kind of like a wide.

620
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that New Haven's got a bunch of

621
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,039
a huge crowd on hand.

622
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: Today and it's only a pick.

623
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: Like I think they're just such a better team than

624
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,480
New Haven, So you're gonna have to try to talk

625
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:46,599
me off mercy Hurst here.

626
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:48,359
Speaker 2: Might this might be one I actually play.

627
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be hard to do. And just to

628
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:58,160
reiterate something you said that mercy Hurst taking care of

629
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,079
the team from hard hitting New Britain is a big deal.

630
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,160
By the number that they did, right, They won by

631
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,440
eighteen points in that particular game. Mercyhurst in the league

632
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,920
is now five to one against the spread on a

633
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,720
six game roll through this particular league, the Northeastern Conference,

634
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:15,880
where New Haven sort of met some mets. Kudos to

635
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,960
them for going to Chicago State and winning. I think

636
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:22,160
in that game, Adam I had thought maybe Chicago State

637
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,079
would be a good team. Total play that was not

638
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,480
a good team. Total Play only scored fifty six against

639
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,960
New Haven. But the Mercyhurst defense extremely good, way better

640
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,319
than the Chicago State defense. Might be tough for new

641
00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:37,480
Haven to score as somebody who well, I don't know

642
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,519
if my opinion counts on how many people will be

643
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,400
in the gym today, because when I was in school

644
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,640
at the University of new Haven it was nineteen eighty,

645
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,960
so forty five years later, I don't know how many

646
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,400
will be in the gym, but I wouldn't imagine all

647
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,160
that many. You're not going to get a crowd that's

648
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,480
going to sort of sway Mercyhurst one way or the other.

649
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,799
I'm with you. I feel like mercy Hurst, just off

650
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:04,279
of the results in the league, has come off of

651
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:08,359
non conference and probably developed through non conference a lot

652
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,519
better than new Haven has remembered. This is new Haven's

653
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:15,759
first trip into and Mercyhurst as well into conference play

654
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:20,079
in Division one, so it's a little of the same

655
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,799
for both. But the mercy Hurst advantage here probably is

656
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:31,559
defensive takeaway percentage. They get the ball, and New Haven

657
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:35,400
doesn't handle the ball all that well. Aside from that,

658
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:38,359
I think you could find five other categories where they're

659
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,680
just enough better, especially on the defensive end. So I'm

660
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,640
looking at the total. Here will I try and talk

661
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,640
about the game itself to see if I want to

662
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,880
play under in this contest. I didn't look all that

663
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,240
hard at it because I played a different early game already.

664
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,000
But here, hey, you're looking at sixty and a half.

665
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:58,400
It's already been pushed down adam sixty one and a

666
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,839
half opener for new Haven pushed on to sixty and

667
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,079
a half. It's possible mercy Hurst could hold him under that,

668
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,279
but in modern day basketball, I don't like to do that,

669
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,759
so I wouldn't play that way. I think the best

670
00:33:08,839 --> 00:33:11,960
lean here would be mercy Hurst side play here against

671
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,400
new Haven, who again kudos to them for the Chicago

672
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,440
State win, but mercy Hurst is on an absolute role

673
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,680
through this conference right now.

674
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this will go.

675
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: So I'm doing the equivalent of trying to cure cancer

676
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,480
right now, which is put a play in on the

677
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,319
fly in the new back end of our system.

678
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,799
Speaker 2: It's just so much, it's just so much tougher.

679
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,519
Speaker 1: I used to be I could. I used to be

680
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:35,319
able to do this while I was driving pretty much.

681
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,039
And I don't contone. I do not condone texting and

682
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:41,079
driving by any means, But it was that simple. Now

683
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,599
I'm trying to get it in and I feel like

684
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:46,319
I need to go back and take like a three

685
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,079
credit course on how to do this, like properly, so

686
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,799
really quick, I'm just gonna quickly interrupt the show to

687
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:55,759
make sure that that went in. It looked like it did.

688
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:58,880
I'm gonna play mercy Hurst on the money line. Here

689
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:02,240
it's like minus one ten, minus one fifteen. It's kind

690
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,759
of all over the place. I see one book just

691
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,039
went to Mercyhurst minus one.

692
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,159
Speaker 2: Most of them are at pick. This will be my

693
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,000
leg of the parlay.

694
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll do a two team or

695
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,920
a three team or it is a noon tip, so

696
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:17,079
be careful of that. But for me, like listen, I

697
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:21,719
talked about this on Monday, new Haven is stringing some

698
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,719
wins together and that's great, Like I you know, they

699
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,159
knocked off this is now three straight wins, home wins

700
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,599
over Fairley Dickinson, home win over Wagner, and then the

701
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:36,159
win over Chicago State. But those are arguably the three worst.

702
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,480
Those are three of the worst teams in the league.

703
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,159
And this goes back to the thing I'll just say

704
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:45,239
blanket statement about the NEC is the books really just

705
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,440
they this is how they approach this conference. They say, Okay,

706
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,119
Long Island's the best team, right, like we're there, They're

707
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,079
by far the best team, and you know what, they're

708
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:57,599
probably right. They probably are. They're five and one, and

709
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,400
they are likely gonna this league this year. Central Connecticut

710
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,159
still gets a lot of respect. Pat sellers a good

711
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,599
basketball team. I don't think they are what they were

712
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:09,719
last year, but they're still a good ball club, and

713
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,559
they they tend to get.

714
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:13,039
Speaker 2: Love from the odds makers as well.

715
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: Chicago State has been a bottom option for a long time,

716
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,519
and then like New Haven was kind of like at

717
00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:23,480
the bottom because they were new But now everyone else

718
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:25,199
just sort of gets meshed in the middle where it's

719
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,119
like the books just look at all these teams like

720
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:30,400
they're the same, and New Haven, because they've won three

721
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,199
straight games, albeit against three of the worst teams in

722
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,360
the league, suddenly they're getting like thrown into that middle pack.

723
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,960
Rob And that's what I disagree with. I still think

724
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,559
New Haven is one of the worst teams in this league.

725
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,119
I think that they had the schedule fall in their

726
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:48,119
favor where they had a couple of the easier teams

727
00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:50,280
at home, and then they played the zero to six,

728
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:54,119
two and seventeen very dreadful Chicago State Cougar's on the

729
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:56,400
road and found a way to get a win for me,

730
00:35:56,639 --> 00:36:00,039
Like Mercy Hurst should be up. I think as the

731
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,079
season goes along, they're gonna play their way up to

732
00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:04,679
that top three or four. I think they'll be knocking

733
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,320
on the door for maybe that third or fourth spot,

734
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,159
which matters in this league because this is a campus

735
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,800
site league, so the NEEC still plays all their conference

736
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,039
tournament on campus site, so every game matters, seeding matters,

737
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:20,239
And I think you're gonna see Mercy Hurst start to

738
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,719
make a little run here. They already really started with

739
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,719
the win last time out over Central Connecticut State. You know,

740
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,360
they've got the I don't think there's a real look

741
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,719
ahead spot here. They've got Chicago State coming up on

742
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,199
Sunday at home. They can probably win that game with

743
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,360
their eyes closed. So it's like, I think you're gonna

744
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,599
get the best effort for Mercy Hurst here and the Lakers.

745
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:43,960
Robbino from Erie, Pennsylvania, I think get it done today.

746
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,840
That's gonna be my leg at a parlay right here.

747
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: You know I mentioned the five and one against the

748
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,639
spread in their last six games. Am. The only loss

749
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:54,320
in there is the stone Hill ot game. And in

750
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,480
that game, Mercyhurst was just ice cold shooting the basketball.

751
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,039
They go twenty four of sixty eight from the field

752
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:06,119
in that game. That's that's about twenty seven percent overall,

753
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,679
twenty seven to twenty eight percent from the floor, only

754
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,920
two of eleven from three missed almost half of their

755
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,760
free throws. I mean, they did everything wrong shooting the

756
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,880
basketball in that game in order to not be six

757
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,559
and oh against the spread in this conference right now.

758
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,679
So I think that probably you're onto something. They're a

759
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,840
little bit underrated. Unh. Probably a little overrated much. I

760
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,039
love the Chargers. Probably a little overrated and comes into

761
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:34,559
play here because you only have to lay one and

762
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:36,400
a half and it's given in your case money line,

763
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,400
so nice and easy. Just go win the game for us.

764
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, just just needed to win the game for us,

765
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,599
rob And like I said, I put it in for

766
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:47,320
three percent.

767
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,079
Speaker 2: It's probably where I'll keep it.

768
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: But it isn't new it's a I believe it's a

769
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,800
one pm game out in New Haven, Connecticut, and that'll

770
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,800
be the first leg of our parlay. So we will

771
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:04,079
move on here let's see, let's go over to here.

772
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:06,519
I'm gonna go in the chat. Well, I think this

773
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:08,639
is probably a good time. Do you have a oh,

774
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:12,000
here's one. We'll talk about this one because I saw

775
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,559
a couple of people mention it. It's another early game.

776
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,039
I have my super Chat starred still here, so they're

777
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,880
coming through, and I see Jose he likes East Carolina

778
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,119
team total under as one of his early ones. Now,

779
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,519
I took a loss the other night. It was not

780
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,159
a big play for me, but I took a loss

781
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,000
playing against North Texas because I really just don't think

782
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:39,519
North Texas is a team that's built to cover big,

783
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:45,360
big numbers. They are, They're not great offensively. I think

784
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,400
most of their offense comes from like the three point shot.

785
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,960
Really good defensive team. Again, even though it's not Ross

786
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,519
Hodge anymore, it's Danielle Robinson who comes over Cleveland from

787
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:58,320
Cleveland State and had a really good defensive team in

788
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,840
the Horizon during his years at Clear England State. So Robbino,

789
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:07,119
I'm tempted again to look toward the North Texas fade here,

790
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,199
but I got burned a couple of nights ago. That

791
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,960
being said, I think Texas San Antonio might be one

792
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,199
of the worst teams in all of college basketball. If

793
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,039
East Carolina is just a little bit better, can they

794
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,039
hang within the ten? And do you have anything on

795
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:21,360
the total for Jose Perez?

796
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 3: Well, where North Texas is concerned, you know you always

797
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,400
start with the under. That's the starting point here. Odds

798
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,920
makers know that this is two games in a row, though.

799
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,320
Where North Texas is total has been pushed up by money,

800
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,599
and we see a significant move here one thirty one

801
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:40,519
and a half all the way to one thirty five

802
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:43,119
and a half, and I see a stray where it

803
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:46,400
hasn't stopped there. It's going to one thirty six. Not

804
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:48,480
so sure that I agree with it at that price,

805
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:52,280
but I've way more agree with Even in their heyday,

806
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:58,079
North Texas laying double digits was an absolute fade. They're

807
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:01,880
far better suited to win games sixty five fifty eight,

808
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,360
which you know this could very well fall in that vicinity,

809
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,079
Way more suited to do that than to win sixty

810
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,760
nine to fifty five. I mean, East Carolina's not a

811
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,840
good shooting basketball team, They're not a good offensive basketball team.

812
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,039
But both of these teams play so slow that you're

813
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:21,440
gonna have limited possessions. ECU just needs to do enough

814
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:25,360
in this game. They're probably good enough Adam on the

815
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,039
boards to be able to get some second chance points

816
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:33,719
here offensive rebound wise against North Texas, because North Texas

817
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,880
doesn't defensive rebound at all, and sometimes it only takes

818
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,920
one or two of those to get you into a

819
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,360
spot where you can cover ten and a half. So

820
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,719
for me, and this has been long standing, it doesn't

821
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,199
change just because the head coach has changed and because

822
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,519
it's a different year North Texas, you could set it

823
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,400
in stone. They play a certain style, they score a

824
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
certain amount of points, and laying ten and a half

825
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:01,000
just is not a favorable situation this team taking ten

826
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000
and a half with ECU, I think would be the

827
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:07,880
right set. There's a little bit of a step down

828
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,800
in class, I would say as well, because ECU comes

829
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,400
off Wichita State, which absolutely hammers the boards where North

830
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,079
Texas doesn't. So maybe ECU, like I said earlier, gets

831
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:22,320
a few second chance opportunities here and gets themselves a cover.

832
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,280
That's the way I would lean total wise. Again, I'm

833
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,119
surprised at the folks that are playing these North Texas

834
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:33,880
games over but as you said earlier adam Utsa one

835
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920
of the worst defensive teams in the league. To get

836
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,920
to eighty one against them, no surprise. I think I

837
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,280
had mentioned earlier this week that I wanted to play

838
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,440
Memphis Utsa over the total on Sunday, but Memphis is

839
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,920
so sporadic scoring points. I shied away, and they got

840
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,079
to ninety five against San Antonio. So I'm not going

841
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:54,280
to take that eighty one put up by North Texas

842
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,280
that seriously. I would take ten and a half in

843
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:56,719
that game.

844
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll tell you about the eighty one they

845
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,480
put up, so of course, like they were up twenty,

846
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,679
I want to say they were up twenty two at

847
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,679
half on Texas San Antonio, and UTSA actually played a

848
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,480
pretty good second half. They had that down so I

849
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,159
was getting sixteen and a half with the road Runners.

850
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:18,320
They had that down to like thirteen at one point,

851
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,280
and North Texas really made it a point in like

852
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,360
the final five minutes to score as many points as

853
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,719
they possibly could. It really looked like I was headed

854
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,320
to like maybe backdoor. That spread had it down to

855
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:36,280
thirteen or twelve, and North Texas like forced a couple turnovers,

856
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,079
a couple steals, of course they hit a transition three

857
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,440
and suddenly they were back up, up twenty one points.

858
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,440
So they definitely, you know, in the final five minutes

859
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,400
sort of like ran that score up a little bit.

860
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,519
So yeah, I would say if this is a if

861
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:52,440
this is a closer game. As I was trying to

862
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,519
some of these, I didn't have my full projections done

863
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:59,400
for just yet, so you know, this is one that

864
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,719
to me, I could only play it one way.

865
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: It would have to be.

866
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,199
Speaker 1: East Carolina certainly haven't been I haven't fully trusted their

867
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,039
offense much this year, but just North Texas is just not,

868
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,079
in my opinion, built to cover big numbers, and maybe

869
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,760
they'll cover a big number against an outlier team like

870
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,639
Texas San Antonio's who's having a You know, they are

871
00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:23,199
easily the best team in that or the worst team

872
00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:24,719
in that conference, and one of the worst teams in

873
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,360
the league. But East Carolina, even though they're five and fourteen,

874
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,400
I think they're like better. I think they're like like

875
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:33,639
better than UTSA. I don't know what I would have

876
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:35,559
to like do the numbers, but I think I make

877
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:38,679
them a pretty like decent favorite. I'll try to do

878
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,320
it real quick on the fly right now, Like, yeah,

879
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,480
I would have them like it at least a couple

880
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:47,360
possession favorite on a neutral over Texas San Antonio. So again,

881
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,760
I lean toward the Pirates hanging around. Not sure if

882
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,000
it'll make my card, but I have to at least

883
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,920
look that way based on the fact that I faded

884
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:02,000
North Texas earlier this week is a big favorite. So okay, Robino,

885
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,239
it's ten forty four. Do you have an idea Do

886
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,639
you want to throw a game out there that you

887
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,480
might want to hit for the parlay?

888
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: Well, let's go ahead and use the parlay play right now, Adam,

889
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,239
I'll go to the Big Ten. Indiana is going to

890
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,400
travel to Rutgers play tonight. I think it's a good

891
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,280
spot for Indiana to cut loose offensively here in this game.

892
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,639
There's been some issues for Indiana. They're kind of in

893
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,679
over their heads in this conference. Tucker Devrees, who was

894
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,199
a star in the Missouri Valley, can't get untracked here

895
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,039
against these Big Ten teams right now. But a check

896
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:40,920
at their schedule the last four games and you find

897
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,679
that they've played a very good defensive team in Nebraska

898
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:47,800
and even better defensive team in Michigan. State, a defensive

899
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,880
minded team in Iowa, and then Michigan. So for Derees

900
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,719
to be going through a bit of a shooting spell

901
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,039
against those four teams, I'm gonna give him the benefit

902
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:58,199
of the doubt because we know he can shoot, and

903
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,239
in fact, his father, the head coach of the team,

904
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,960
Darien Derez, that said, listen, in practice, he keeps knocking

905
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,119
these things down, and so we're gonna live with it

906
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,440
and just call it a slump. At this point in time,

907
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:12,760
I would call it just a little bit in over

908
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,360
his head against the defensive competition that they've played in

909
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,159
the last four games, and the fact that as a

910
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,519
marksman shooter he probably enters the game as part of

911
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:26,480
the other side's game plan. There's no question they want

912
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,480
to check where he is on the floor and make

913
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:31,519
sure he doesn't get clean looks. Rutgers isn't that team

914
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:35,440
this year. Steve Pichel has that in his resume, likes

915
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,920
to be defensive minded, but they're just not that good

916
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,559
defensively this year whatsoever. Three hundred and eighteenth in the

917
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:45,679
nation against the three Indiana Despite the woes I just

918
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,840
talked about with Tucker Derees, they shoot the three very well,

919
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,800
they shoot the two very well. It's a good shooting

920
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,239
team overall. It's a chance for them to break out here.

921
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,599
A severe step down in class, especially on the defensive end.

922
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:01,880
I think for Indiana, nothing would feel better than to

923
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,119
win a game after those four losses. And if you

924
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:07,280
just go back prior to that and take teams that

925
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,480
are kind of in the Rutgers class, they're better than Rutgers,

926
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,519
but they're in the Rutgers class, bottom tier of the

927
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:17,000
Big Ten. This year Washington and Maryland. Indiana put up

928
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:20,119
ninety and eighty four against those two teams, beat them both.

929
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,239
They're only asked to get over seventy six and a

930
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,639
half in this game. I'm not so sure that I

931
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,679
trust them thoroughly on the road to cover a point spread,

932
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,079
but I think they're going to get to seventy seven here. Again,

933
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,159
I just wigh the defensive step down in class and

934
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,519
the way that they can shoot the basketball and say

935
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:39,639
to myself, you know, it's a team desperate for a win.

936
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:41,920
They're probably gonna get to seventy seven. So that'll be

937
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,559
our leg of the total. From this end. The Indiana

938
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:49,840
team total over seventy six and a half. I believe

939
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,480
Adam Well, in most spots you're asked to lay twenty

940
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,119
cent juice on this game. So and consensus line tells

941
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:00,960
us only ten cents, but a lot of places are

942
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,719
asking for twenty. So we could roll with twenty and

943
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,159
they're going to get the seventy seven.

944
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:09,079
Speaker 2: In my opinion, yeah, I'll put I'll put the twenty

945
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:09,719
cent juice in.

946
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,599
Speaker 1: I figure someone is either going to have to lay

947
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:14,880
twenty cents on the Mercyhurst money line or the team total,

948
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,760
so we'll put twenty cent juice on one of them.

949
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: We'll make it.

950
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: We'll just keep it a two team in for today

951
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,440
to try to see if we can get ourselves a

952
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:24,840
chance to hit one. As far as Rutgers is concerned,

953
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:28,920
pretty pretty much a year like zero type rebuild for them.

954
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:32,440
Of course, they sort of, you know, pikel sort of

955
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:34,480
like I don't want to say he sold his soul,

956
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:39,199
rob but he switched everything. He pretty much threw his

957
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,400
like principles out the window to have to accommodate Dylan

958
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,159
Harper and Ace Bailey last year. Which listen, if you're

959
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,360
Rutgers and you can get two guys that are probably

960
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,119
top ten NBA draft picks. You do whatever you have

961
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:56,320
to do. That's totally fine, but it obviously didn't really work.

962
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,239
They weren't very good last year. They didn't make a tournament.

963
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,559
They were you know, just basically two guys playing with

964
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,679
a bunch of cones on the floor. And so this

965
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,519
year he's got to go back to the you know,

966
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:09,800
pretty much back to the drawing board start over.

967
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,119
Speaker 2: It's not a very good team.

968
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: I do think they're probably trending in the right direction,

969
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:17,800
just like you know, it's starting to come together, maybe

970
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:18,360
a team that.

971
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: I you know, if he can give.

972
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: Of course, now that the battle rob is you got

973
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,960
to keep these players after a year. But if he can,

974
00:48:24,519 --> 00:48:26,440
you know, maybe he has got a little something going

975
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,920
next year. You know, on this floor, he has be

976
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,719
in Oregon and Northwestern, So I guess, you know, that's

977
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:35,840
somewhat notable to get a couple of wins. But I'm

978
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,920
kind of with you, like, if they you know, you

979
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,360
don't really want to foul Indiana, right, So if they're

980
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,760
over aggressive defensively and they start putting Indiana at the

981
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,760
free throw line, Indiana would love that they're an elite

982
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,760
free throw shooting team.

983
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: This season.

984
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I I could see Indiana sort of getting there,

985
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:54,800
getting their their number here. I does feel like a

986
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,920
game Indiana wins.

987
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:57,079
Speaker 2: I mean they kind of are do.

988
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: I hate just throwing the word do out and putting

989
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:02,960
into a handicap, but I think they're kind of due

990
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,800
to at least have a decent game, which in your

991
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,440
case wouldn't matter if they win or lose.

992
00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:12,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, well we'll roll with that team total over all.

993
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:15,199
Speaker 1: Right, Garth wants to head out west, so appreciate another

994
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,679
donation to the show. Right there from Garth, he says,

995
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:25,239
Utah State Colorado State total looks low, so let me

996
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,599
just double check this building. I want to see where

997
00:49:28,639 --> 00:49:32,159
this one is. There's more games than we had we

998
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:34,880
got thrown like. They's a bunch of extra games today,

999
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,000
so that this one's actually out in Fort Collins at

1000
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,320
the Moby Arena, great atmosphere. Got to go there a

1001
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,199
couple of years ago, Utah State, So you know, I'll

1002
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:46,440
give Colorado State the.

1003
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: Full marks for home court.

1004
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: I do what once the students are back there, that's

1005
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,920
a great building to see a game in and they're

1006
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,519
certainly going to be fired up for Utah State. Garth

1007
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,639
specifically wants to talk total. So I'll you sort of

1008
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,679
lead this one off. Utah State, Colorado State, how are

1009
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,159
you seeing it?

1010
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 3: Well? The Colorado State team, we know, excellent shooting team,

1011
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,880
slow paced team. Utah State a little bit methodical, but

1012
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,360
still a very good shooting team. This game to me,

1013
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:20,239
Adam real quick, because I watched the Utah State UNLV

1014
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,880
game the other night where Utah State lost their second

1015
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,760
in a row. They lost the Grand Canyon prior to that,

1016
00:50:26,199 --> 00:50:28,599
then they came back and lost both of them by ten.

1017
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:30,440
They're on their home floor the other night, and just

1018
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,239
UNLV in the first half of that game, it looked

1019
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,559
like Utah State had an opportunity to put that game

1020
00:50:36,599 --> 00:50:40,920
away early. They didn't. UNLV hung around with foul trouble

1021
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,079
all night long and found a way to get there.

1022
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,559
I had the total over in that game, for what

1023
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:51,480
it's worth, Garth, and I was not the most confident

1024
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:54,280
in the way that the ball was being shot by

1025
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,400
both teams. However, there were so many free throws. If

1026
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,599
I'm remembering right, there were a batch of free throws

1027
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:03,079
in that particular game. Yeah, fifty six foul shots in

1028
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:06,559
that game, and U toss State missed a zillion. There

1029
00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:08,880
were seventeen of thirty one from the free throw line

1030
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,519
in that game UNLV twenty one of twenty five came through,

1031
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,159
So that game still got to one sixty two with

1032
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:17,880
relatively poor shooting out of Utahs datea especially from three

1033
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,079
pretty good shooting out of UNLV off to four columns

1034
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,599
where they shoot it really well. I think one forty

1035
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:26,159
eight and a half is a really good price on

1036
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:31,199
this game. I really do matth in my head what

1037
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,679
the odds maker is telling us. In order to get there,

1038
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,119
we need seventy seven seventy three, is that right? Seventy

1039
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,039
four point game and a one forty and a half No,

1040
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:42,039
probably somewhere around seventy seven to seventy three. Not the

1041
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:44,639
hardest thing to do, but probably too little wiggle room

1042
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,880
for me to get involved. I do think utass State

1043
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,599
wins the game as good as Colorado State shoots the ball.

1044
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:54,719
I just think this bounce back effect off of two

1045
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,840
consecutive conference losses favors U toss date. I think they're

1046
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:06,480
the better team really quick where Utah State is concerned.

1047
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,280
The shooting just can't get any worse, I wouldn't think,

1048
00:52:11,199 --> 00:52:14,480
And so I feel like they're the better offensive team

1049
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:18,440
here with a little bit of motivation off of two losses.

1050
00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:22,239
The question I had to ask myself, Adam, is is

1051
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,760
Utah State just not as good as they I think

1052
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,880
they are and that's why they lost two games to

1053
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,880
Grand Canyon and UNLV. Remember, if you go back here

1054
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,519
real quick, I'll just close with this thought. Colorado State

1055
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:40,280
beat UNLV. Utah State lost to UNLV. However, Colorado State

1056
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,000
beat the UNLV team that had the virus running through

1057
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:45,039
their team at that time. Remember how sick they were.

1058
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:48,039
In back you mentioned Josh Passner a couple of times

1059
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:50,079
saying how sick he was at that point in time.

1060
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,840
That's the team CSU beat. Utah State lost to the

1061
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,119
healthy team. Maybe UNLV's a little better than previously thought

1062
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,000
because when they had all those guys out, they weren't

1063
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:02,360
playing very well. But they're playing well now. I kind

1064
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,280
of like Utah State totally. I think is too close

1065
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,480
for me to call, so I'll just offer no opinion.

1066
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,639
Speaker 1: Root for you, Garth, Yeah, this is this is a

1067
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,920
challenging game. My numbers kind of right on where the

1068
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,679
market is. You know, I was, I was right in

1069
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,400
that three and a half four and a half range.

1070
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,480
This opened Utah State three and a half. It's up

1071
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:27,199
to four and a half. I typically this is this

1072
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,679
is not a spot I'm dying to fade Colorado State

1073
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,880
at home. I understand maybe looking toward the Utah State side,

1074
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,760
because hey, they've lost too in a row. But I

1075
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,480
just bet against Utah State in a similar ish price

1076
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:43,960
range with Grand Canyon last week, and Grand Canyon kind

1077
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,920
of handled them in that game. The midweek loss to

1078
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:51,760
UNLV was somewhat shocking, just because Utah State typically doesn't

1079
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,239
lose those type of games at home.

1080
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: But I do think it's reasonable to.

1081
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,599
Speaker 1: Think that maybe they kind of played their way into

1082
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:00,440
being a little bit overvalued from a total stand point.

1083
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,800
Kyle Jorgenson being back certainly certainly helps here. He's you know,

1084
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,000
he was out for a few games. I think it

1085
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,639
hurts Colorado State's offense, their floor spacing, so on and

1086
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:16,400
so forth. And then of course it coincided with Colorado

1087
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,960
State's cold shooting, so you know that was that was

1088
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:22,519
kind of the so garth to speak to, like where

1089
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,079
you're looking in this game. I don't hate the overlook

1090
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:30,880
because Colorado State was working against regression that was probably coming.

1091
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,280
They had a They shot the ball insanely well during

1092
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,159
non conference play, so they get into conference where there's

1093
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:39,559
tougher travel, you have to go in and out of altitude,

1094
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:42,480
and so there was some natural regression there. But then

1095
00:54:42,519 --> 00:54:45,440
you take off Jorgensen, who's a forty eight point six

1096
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:48,880
three point shooter and hit sixty one point five percent

1097
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,360
of his shots from the field, arguably your most efficient

1098
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:52,199
offensive player.

1099
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,119
Speaker 2: Now he's back.

1100
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: Now he wasn't a huge factor in his first two

1101
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,000
games back, but last time out played twenty four minutes

1102
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,239
against air Force, so that's very encouraging.

1103
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,599
Speaker 2: To So, yeah, you could play. You could probably push back.

1104
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: At the market for an over here because like Rob said,

1105
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,360
Utah States probably do to shoot a little bit better

1106
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:07,760
as well.

1107
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,079
Speaker 2: All right, couple a couple of minutes left.

1108
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: I guess like maybe blanket here will throw out some

1109
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,960
thoughts on the Atlantic Sun.

1110
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,039
Speaker 2: Who's playing all the back to back.

1111
00:55:24,199 --> 00:55:28,079
Speaker 1: So the one that the one thought that someone asked,

1112
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:31,000
you know yesterday I hit with Austin p I pointed

1113
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:34,119
out that Koseesny was probably out for Florida Gulf Coast,

1114
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,039
and he was I would be very very surprised if

1115
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:41,199
he plays in this game. But I also think the

1116
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,679
market got to that really quick because I think Lipskimb

1117
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,440
opened like four and a half and it was quickly

1118
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,039
bet up to seven and a half. So again you

1119
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:53,039
have to ask yourself, and Rob, I'll just like any

1120
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:55,280
thoughts on any of these Atlantic Sun Games, you have

1121
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,400
to ask yourself, Like you know, you have to have Lipscomb.

1122
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,480
You would have Lipskamb playing and back to back after

1123
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:04,119
they just went in overtime yesterday with Stepson, So I

1124
00:56:04,159 --> 00:56:07,000
think these are going to be challenging games, even Austin P.

1125
00:56:07,199 --> 00:56:09,079
Someone was like, hey, do you like Austin P. Again,

1126
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:12,920
It's like, well, yeah, I guess so. But now now

1127
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,199
they're asking me to lay fourteen yesterday I only had

1128
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,000
to lay three and a half. So I don't have

1129
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:20,320
a play in any of the Atlantic Sun Games, but

1130
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,239
they are notable because they're back to backs, some of

1131
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,039
these teams of considerable travel.

1132
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: Did you find anything in any of those games? It's

1133
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:28,039
worth sharing.

1134
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 3: Rob. I was up early this morning and got to

1135
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,320
the number a little bit earlier, but I did take

1136
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,440
the lips come side against FGCU Kanesni means a ton

1137
00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:40,679
leading scorer, leading rebounder who you've got a game of

1138
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,800
history here already played this year. They play at FGCU

1139
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,760
and FGCU lost that game straight up and they lost

1140
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,480
eighty four to seventy seven. And Kanesni had twenty six

1141
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:54,760
points and ten boards in that game. He scored like

1142
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,440
a third of their points, led the team in rebounds.

1143
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:00,840
You don't have them now. They got past West Georgia

1144
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:02,880
a couple of games ago, but I think, you know,

1145
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,159
West Georgia, a team that wants to run up and down,

1146
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,599
not that great of a shooting team, kind of played

1147
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:11,280
into Florida Gulf Coast hands. They look lousy again yesterday.

1148
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,719
I don't see them. And travel, believe me, travel from

1149
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,360
Clarksville to Nashville is not a big deal, especially since

1150
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,719
they played yesterday afternoon. It's a bus ride, about a

1151
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,639
fifty mile bus ride. But I still think that losing

1152
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:25,000
that first game on their home floor by seven, not

1153
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:28,039
having they look like they're a little bit lost against

1154
00:57:28,119 --> 00:57:33,519
better teams without Kenesni in this lineup. And this is

1155
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:36,119
a really good team. I mean, Lipscomb's a really good

1156
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:39,039
team right now. And to the point of overtime, Adam,

1157
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,719
they're so deep that when I checked their minutes, nobody

1158
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,000
was really extended minutes wise for Lipscomb yesterday. Nothing where

1159
00:57:47,039 --> 00:57:49,119
you would see, you know, in one of the other games,

1160
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:51,760
you have guys that played forty thirty nine and now

1161
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,360
they have to play back to back. That's not the

1162
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,840
case with Lipscomb here, So I laid a better number.

1163
00:57:56,679 --> 00:58:01,440
You're right, you know. The line is definitely going a

1164
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,920
little bit north again, up higher and higher. So playing

1165
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,039
it right now maybe not, but I still wouldn't play

1166
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:11,079
the other side. I think I would still probably play

1167
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,519
Lipscomb at this price, just less wiggle them.

1168
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were I played Florida Golf Coast was awful yesterday.

1169
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,039
Speaker 1: I can't see how they just were right the ship

1170
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:23,159
in twenty four hours now staying on the road to

1171
00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:25,639
play another one of the best teams in this league,

1172
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,000
Austin p and of course Lipscomb. Really Austin p Lipscomb

1173
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:32,360
and Queens are the three best teams in this league.

1174
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,199
And if your FGCU you drew two of them in

1175
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:38,440
a twenty four period, both on the road, I think

1176
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,519
you got yourself a good one there. If you got

1177
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:43,679
in early on Lipscomb, we've reached the end of the hour.

1178
00:58:44,519 --> 00:58:46,880
The two team are today for Rob and I hopefully

1179
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,639
get us back in the win column here. Rob is

1180
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:52,119
going to go Indiana team total over seventy six and

1181
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:55,960
a half. I'm going Mercyhurst minus one ten. Just on

1182
00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:58,039
the money line, I made that a three percent play

1183
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:01,559
per clients. We will be better tomorrow as part of

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Last Call. Believe it's eleven am Eastern right here on

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the wager Talk YouTube channel, so check that out.

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Speaker 2: Good luck tonight, everyone, have a great weekend. We'll see

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you guys in the morning.