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<v Speaker 1>our guest coming up in just a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>preview tonight's National championship game. We're gonna say good night

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<v Speaker 1>in time for that, so at five point thirty. It's

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<v Speaker 1>signed for Notre Dame and Ohio State. But our next

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<v Speaker 1>guest good enough to join us from time to time

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<v Speaker 1>when he's not traveling the world or hanging out with kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You went to high school with it turned into serial killers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Mitchell on a Monday, Scott, Happy Monday. How are

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<v Speaker 1>we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing awesome. That's a great introduction right there. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>listening to that commercial, it's like, why would you ever

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<v Speaker 2>turn off ESPN seven hundred. I mean you could catch

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<v Speaker 2>all the games. You shouldn't listen all the time? You

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<v Speaker 2>get you get you, you get Sean O'Connell. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>people listen all the time. That's what I have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Mitchell, who apparently has been hired as our general

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<v Speaker 1>sales manager, joins the show today. You're not wrong, Scott.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the pub and of course everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>listen when you're on the show. But here's my question,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Mitchell, right out of the gates Detroit Lions fans

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<v Speaker 1>on a Monday after that loss where a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people thought they were going to be right in the

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<v Speaker 1>mix to win the entire thing. You played pro ball

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<v Speaker 1>for Detroit at a very high level. I just wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what you takes. And I love the Jade and Daniel story.

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<v Speaker 1>And Washington hasn't been in the conference champion title game

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty three years. But you know, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Lions fan, you finally had it. Everything was in place,

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<v Speaker 1>you were relatively healthy, and the wheels fell off, some

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<v Speaker 1>injuries defensively, But what do you think that community is

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<v Speaker 1>like on this Monday afternoon, Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>I just my heart goes out to all those people.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I want to see something in sports ever happen,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the Detroit Lions winning a Super Bowl simply

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<v Speaker 2>for their fans. They really are some of the best

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<v Speaker 2>fans in the world in the sense that they are

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<v Speaker 2>so loyal to this team. I mean, it seems not

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<v Speaker 2>any good and folks still show up and they're lifer.

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<v Speaker 2>These are life, life long Lions fans. They've worn the

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<v Speaker 2>badge of you know, futility for so long, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like it was going to be their time.

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<v Speaker 2>And love the coach and what he's doing, and and

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<v Speaker 2>just the nucleus of players you just pull for them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, pull for Jared Golf and and just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, want him to do well, and just so

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<v Speaker 2>many good things there. It was crushing, but it really

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<v Speaker 2>brings to light something that's a brutal truth about the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it's hard to win. It's hard to win

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs, it's hard to win a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he sees people like Tom Brady's do it

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<v Speaker 2>seven times. You you understand that a lot of luck

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<v Speaker 2>gets involved in that. But also, man, they're really good

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<v Speaker 2>and they're they're really good teams to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. You're seeing to some degree with the Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>City Chiefs, But it's just a hard thing, and part

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<v Speaker 2>of it that makes a hard expense is they only

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<v Speaker 2>have one game, like it's every week is do or die.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't get any you don't get a reset,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get a do over. It's it's a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>death elimination every week. And it's the brutal reality and

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<v Speaker 2>the harshness of professional football. But also what makes it

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<v Speaker 2>so compelling and so intriguing, you know, you tune in

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<v Speaker 2>because you just see how that pressure of having that

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<v Speaker 2>you're done in year out does to people, and it

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<v Speaker 2>impacts people in different ways, which is why Jaydon Daniels

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<v Speaker 2>is so freaking amazing. What that guy's do Like he

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<v Speaker 2>must have like some something in his brain that doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's that fear, it's that it's that pressure button

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<v Speaker 2>or something, because because a rookie should not be playing

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<v Speaker 2>like that, not only in the playoffs, all season long.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just been incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>He has And let me let me follow up because

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<v Speaker 1>Scott we had him out in this direction. Jade Daniels

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<v Speaker 1>was a Pac twelve kid, and I'll just speak for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'd watch him at ASU, I'm like, man, he's fun,

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<v Speaker 1>he's dynamic, he's talented, but I mean, come on, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the most ardent Jayden Daniels fans will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>they saw this coming. But I cheer, as I often

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<v Speaker 1>say when everybody whenever anybody asked me, like who do

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<v Speaker 1>you cheer for to win? I say all the local teams,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I just cheer for stories. And I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>for this Jade and Daniels story as they're taking on

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<v Speaker 1>Philly now coming up for the chance to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. What what are you most impressed about

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<v Speaker 1>the way Jade and Daniels has been able to traverse this,

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<v Speaker 1>this rookie experience in pro football.

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<v Speaker 2>He had committed to Utah. I mean he was he

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<v Speaker 2>was committed to Utah and her Edwards came in kind

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<v Speaker 2>of at a late date and and swooned him away.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think part of the intrigue, because this is

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<v Speaker 2>my this is part of my answer to your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the intrigue was I feel like her Edwards

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<v Speaker 2>can get me to the NFL. And I think Jade

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<v Speaker 2>and Daniels and he talks about it that he saw

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<v Speaker 2>himself as this kind of player when he was a

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<v Speaker 2>young kid and his whole thing was about playing and

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<v Speaker 2>playing great in the NFL. And he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I could go to Utah and and and how many

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how many you know, they're not a hotbed

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<v Speaker 2>for quarterback per se. But i could go to Arizona State,

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<v Speaker 2>where I've got a coach who did coach in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>who did play in the NFL. And then when that

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<v Speaker 2>fell apart, he goes, I'm going to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>big you know, he has a chance to go to LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's had this willingness to do whatever it took

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<v Speaker 2>to go wherever he needed to go to get himself

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<v Speaker 2>in the right position to be able to play at

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<v Speaker 2>a high level because he was he was exceptional at

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<v Speaker 2>at LSU. And I think that move to LSU was

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<v Speaker 2>that thing that really kind of put him over over

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<v Speaker 2>the top. And you know, and then and then on

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<v Speaker 2>top of it, and this is the biggest thing I

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<v Speaker 2>think of all spence of anyone, Like you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>pulls Sha dur Sanders and so does he go, Don?

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<v Speaker 2>Where does he go? Kind of thing? Jaydon Daniels went

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<v Speaker 2>to a coach, went to a system that was like

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<v Speaker 2>built for quarterbacks, and Cliff Kingsbury done a phenomenal job

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time. You know, if you're a young quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, I want to go where that guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to go any coach that's a defensive minded coach,

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't want to go there. Don't put me there,

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<v Speaker 2>don't let me go there. I'll retire before I ever

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<v Speaker 2>start kind of mindset. And Jadan Daniels really lucked into

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<v Speaker 2>the right coach at the right time to fit who

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<v Speaker 2>he is, and they've done a beautiful job of really

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<v Speaker 2>accentuating what he can really do. And I mean he's

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<v Speaker 2>consistently done it all season long.

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<v Speaker 1>He has all right, it was inevitable that the sports

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<v Speaker 1>media news cycle was going to contain a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Lamark just cannot do this come playoff time content, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to at some point turn it off because

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<v Speaker 1>it just gets so Scott. I do not think wins

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<v Speaker 1>and losses are a quarterback stat That's my opinion. But

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<v Speaker 1>having said that, the record is what it is. That

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a very cold and challenging place to try

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<v Speaker 1>to play quarterback, and the other team has Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>and they're pretty good, So what's fair to say today,

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<v Speaker 1>on this Monday after the Ravens and the Baltimore Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>and Lamar Jackson once again are ousted early on in

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<v Speaker 2>But when you have two players, you have two teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are competing at a high level. Every little play,

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<v Speaker 2>every moment matters, and with the turnovers and the drop

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<v Speaker 2>passes in the in the critical times, the teams that win,

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<v Speaker 2>they find a way to get it done. At the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the game, they find a way to close

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<v Speaker 2>it out and win it. And you have to It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's just a learned thing. I mean, Peyton Manning, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the first five years he was in the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>he really struggled. And you know, and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of guys have been really good that haven't been amazing

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs, and then you have some other guys that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of kind of do a better job.

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<v Speaker 2>So I agree with you, and the wins and losses

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<v Speaker 2>and playoffs and Super Bowls really shouldn't account for the

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<v Speaker 2>greatness of a quarterback, for sure. But because I love

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson and I think he put him in a

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<v Speaker 2>position in a tough environment, in tough playing conditions to

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<v Speaker 2>tie the game and you know, he throws a nice

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<v Speaker 2>touchdown pass late and the guy drops the ball. Guy

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<v Speaker 2>the same guy fumbles the ball earlier as they're moving

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<v Speaker 2>into score. And you know that's that's not on Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he was there. You know, he was a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that was present when the game was on the line.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't fold, he didn't crumble from it. He did

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<v Speaker 2>what he had to do to put him in a

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<v Speaker 2>position to win the game. If I'm a coach Spence

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<v Speaker 2>and I got a chance to have Lamar Jackson on

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<v Speaker 2>my team, I raised both hands. I said, yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the guy, and I think he's done an

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<v Speaker 2>exceptional job of becoming a multi dimensional player. He really

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<v Speaker 2>throws the ball a lot better than he did in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. And then but he's just this elite runner

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<v Speaker 2>it a lot. And he'll just keep playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll eventually get this off his back and and and whok.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a great talent. I don't know why people are

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<v Speaker 2>ragging on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott, as a Jets fan, I'd trade the Statue of

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<v Speaker 1>Liberty for Lamar Jackson. Kidding me, like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that would do for the Ravens. But no, to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, yeah, like you take him on your team

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<v Speaker 1>every time. All right, let's move over now. Actually, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you about Chiefs Texans. The narrative

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<v Speaker 2>Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 2>thing with Jaydan Daniels, you know. And I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go back to what I said in the be getting

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard to win. I remember one of the first

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<v Speaker 2>things that Dan Marino ever told me, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl my second year, and he goes, I had

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<v Speaker 2>this unbelievable see you know throw. I mean, he sent

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<v Speaker 2>this record back in nineteen ninety or nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just it was insane what he was doing

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<v Speaker 2>throwing the football then. And he and they just march

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<v Speaker 2>trounced by the forty nine ers. But he goes, we

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<v Speaker 2>year after that. Like I just I just and and

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<v Speaker 2>and every every year. He never ever got back again.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was a tremendous player. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>really liked CJ. Stroud. I've liked him. When he played

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<v Speaker 2>every season is just it's it's its own thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>You have to find a way to evolve your game.

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<v Speaker 2>Because coaches go, those coaches sit in those rooms, Spence,

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<v Speaker 2>they sit in the dark for hours and they go,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we beat this guy? What's his weakness? Where

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<v Speaker 2>what can we do to just really mess with him?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? And Bill Belichick is a master at all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. And then til you can adjust your game

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of figure it out and evolve, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and and things have to bounce right, It's it's really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not down on CJ. Stroud, not surprised that

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<v Speaker 2>this has happened. The NFL is cruel. It's just it

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<v Speaker 2>is a hard business to win and and and to

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<v Speaker 2>be consistently good for a long period of time. It

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<v Speaker 2>speaks volumes of a player and their ability, and of

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<v Speaker 1>We've got conference Championship Sunday coming up, and at this

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<v Speaker 1>point I'm not going to doubt Washington. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three years since their last NFC Championship appearance. Philly's

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<v Speaker 1>getting five and a half. As far as the spread goes,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really have an accurate forecast, but it's Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>in January, so I'm sure it won't be awesome. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it's hard to pick against him. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think this magical run continues or do you like Philly?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? What Here's one of the things that's really good

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<v Speaker 2>about Dad and Daniels and why he's having success is

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<v Speaker 2>mechanically he's really sound, so his throwing motion holds up

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<v Speaker 2>like in the pressure situations. Think of like a free

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<v Speaker 2>throw shooter. You know you got someone with just a

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<v Speaker 2>nice stroke and in pressure situations, you know it just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't crumble. But to get a guy who's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>got bad form and it's just accentuated when he's at

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<v Speaker 2>that mechanically sound motion allowed for him to be pretty

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<v Speaker 2>consistent throwing the football and especially in pressure situations. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just telling you, he's just got a demeanor, he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a mindset. It would be hard to bet against him.

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<v Speaker 2>But folks, you know, these two teams have played each

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<v Speaker 2>other twice this year. This will be the third time,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's not going to be unfamiliar to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the Philadelphia Eagles and vice versa. You know, these teams

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<v Speaker 2>know each other well, and they're gonna know probably better

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<v Speaker 2>than anyone, how to prepare for and how to eliminate,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of these successes or comfort, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to predict things when you've played each other,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, two or three times in a year.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the afternoon game, of course, everyone's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about this for the second straight year. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see the Bills and the Chiefs and Narrowhead

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<v Speaker 1>and the winner will advance to the super Bowl. It

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know, Scott. I'll see to you because

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<v Speaker 1>you played and you're the expert here. It just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's Josh's time to me. But I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>because Kansas City just finds a way to figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out week in week out, But who'd you like in

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's so it's so hard because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Kansas City has been living on borrow time

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<v Speaker 2>all this year. And there are kind of some there's

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<v Speaker 2>a statement or a thought process where it takes a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more time to win before you should and

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<v Speaker 2>then you win a little bit after you shouldn't, just

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<v Speaker 2>because you're so experienced and you're just so savvy as

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<v Speaker 2>City is right now. They feel like they're an injury

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<v Speaker 2>or just a bump and the bruise away from kind

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<v Speaker 2>of falling off the cliff. It's hard. No one's ever

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<v Speaker 2>like won three super Bowls in a row, which tells

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<v Speaker 2>you how hard that is. So I kind of tend

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<v Speaker 2>to agree with you. I just I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this is Josh Josh Allen's year. He's a guy that's

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<v Speaker 2>evolved and learned how to win and learned how to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of modify his game and and and manage you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of how much and when he runs, which is

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<v Speaker 2>I think a good thing because I think he's relatively

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<v Speaker 2>healthy at this time of year, and and he's a

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<v Speaker 2>He's been there before and and played well and so

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think the Buffalo Bills are unfamiliar with

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<v Speaker 2>that environment either. But you know, it feels like it's

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<v Speaker 2>his year. But man, don't don't don't count out Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not wrong there all right, before I set you

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<v Speaker 1>lose National Championship College Football, National Championship. It's on our

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<v Speaker 1>radio station. He kicks off in exactly one hour. At

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<v Speaker 1>eight minutes, Ohio State is getting nine points. Scott can

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<v Speaker 1>notre Day make this a fair fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really think so. Personally, I think Ohio State

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<v Speaker 2>is clearly the better team. I think they're a team

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<v Speaker 2>that's ready to win. H I think they're they're they

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<v Speaker 2>have more talent just to cross the board as as

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<v Speaker 2>a team, both on offense and defense. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think winning and having a playoff format like this

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<v Speaker 2>has kind of been a good thing for Ryan Day

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<v Speaker 2>where he doesn't have the pressure of winning the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve championship and and and so having an expanded playoff

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<v Speaker 2>I think gave them a little bit of a Mulligan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, because you and I think playing it appeared

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<v Speaker 2>the teams that played more and didn't have to buy

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<v Speaker 2>actually did better in the playoffs. And that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be that way. I think every year

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<v Speaker 2>it will be different. But I love the playoff format.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you know what what it's what it's brought

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, Scott. Thank you for your time today, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>have a great week, enjoy the game tonight, and then

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you can get you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, look forward tone, Thanks bitch, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Mitched one of the best to ever do it

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<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions and smother teams as well. Appreciate as

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<v Speaker 1>him