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Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell on a Monday, Scott, Happy Monday. How are
Speaker 1: we doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing awesome. That's a great introduction right there. You know,
Speaker 2: listening to that commercial, it's like, why would you ever
Speaker 2: turn off ESPN seven hundred. I mean you could catch
Speaker 2: all the games. You shouldn't listen all the time? You
Speaker 2: get you get you, you get Sean O'Connell. Come on,
Speaker 2: people listen all the time. That's what I have to say.
Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell, who apparently has been hired as our general
Speaker 1: sales manager, joins the show today. You're not wrong, Scott.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the pub and of course everyone wants to
Speaker 1: listen when you're on the show. But here's my question,
Speaker 1: Scott Mitchell, right out of the gates Detroit Lions fans
Speaker 1: on a Monday after that loss where a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought they were going to be right in the
Speaker 1: mix to win the entire thing. You played pro ball
Speaker 1: for Detroit at a very high level. I just wonder
Speaker 1: what you takes. And I love the Jade and Daniel story.
Speaker 1: And Washington hasn't been in the conference champion title game
Speaker 1: in thirty three years. But you know, if you're a
Speaker 1: Lions fan, you finally had it. Everything was in place,
Speaker 1: you were relatively healthy, and the wheels fell off, some
Speaker 1: injuries defensively, But what do you think that community is
Speaker 1: like on this Monday afternoon, Scott.
Speaker 2: I just my heart goes out to all those people.
Speaker 2: And if I want to see something in sports ever happen,
Speaker 2: it was the Detroit Lions winning a Super Bowl simply
Speaker 2: for their fans. They really are some of the best
Speaker 2: fans in the world in the sense that they are
Speaker 2: so loyal to this team. I mean, it seems not
Speaker 2: any good and folks still show up and they're lifer.
Speaker 2: These are life, life long Lions fans. They've worn the
Speaker 2: badge of you know, futility for so long, and it
Speaker 2: just felt like it was going to be their time.
Speaker 2: And love the coach and what he's doing, and and
Speaker 2: just the nucleus of players you just pull for them,
Speaker 2: you know what, pull for Jared Golf and and just
Speaker 2: you know, want him to do well, and just so
Speaker 2: many good things there. It was crushing, but it really
Speaker 2: brings to light something that's a brutal truth about the NFL,
Speaker 2: and that's it's hard to win. It's hard to win
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, it's hard to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: And so he sees people like Tom Brady's do it
Speaker 2: seven times. You you understand that a lot of luck
Speaker 2: gets involved in that. But also, man, they're really good
Speaker 2: and they're they're really good teams to be able to
Speaker 2: do that. You're seeing to some degree with the Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs, But it's just a hard thing, and part
Speaker 2: of it that makes a hard expense is they only
Speaker 2: have one game, like it's every week is do or die.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't get any you don't get a reset,
Speaker 2: you don't get a do over. It's it's a sudden
Speaker 2: death elimination every week. And it's the brutal reality and
Speaker 2: the harshness of professional football. But also what makes it
Speaker 2: so compelling and so intriguing, you know, you tune in
Speaker 2: because you just see how that pressure of having that
Speaker 2: you're done in year out does to people, and it
Speaker 2: impacts people in different ways, which is why Jaydon Daniels
Speaker 2: is so freaking amazing. What that guy's do Like he
Speaker 2: must have like some something in his brain that doesn't work,
Speaker 2: and it's that fear, it's that it's that pressure button
Speaker 2: or something, because because a rookie should not be playing
Speaker 2: like that, not only in the playoffs, all season long.
Speaker 2: He's just been incredible.
Speaker 1: He has And let me let me follow up because
Speaker 1: Scott we had him out in this direction. Jade Daniels
Speaker 1: was a Pac twelve kid, and I'll just speak for myself.
Speaker 1: When I'd watch him at ASU, I'm like, man, he's fun,
Speaker 1: he's dynamic, he's talented, but I mean, come on, like,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: Even the most ardent Jayden Daniels fans will tell you
Speaker 1: they saw this coming. But I cheer, as I often
Speaker 1: say when everybody whenever anybody asked me, like who do
Speaker 1: you cheer for to win? I say all the local teams,
Speaker 1: And then I just cheer for stories. And I'm here
Speaker 1: for this Jade and Daniels story as they're taking on
Speaker 1: Philly now coming up for the chance to go to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. What what are you most impressed about
Speaker 1: the way Jade and Daniels has been able to traverse this,
Speaker 1: this rookie experience in pro football.
Speaker 2: He had committed to Utah. I mean he was he
Speaker 2: was committed to Utah and her Edwards came in kind
Speaker 2: of at a late date and and swooned him away.
Speaker 2: And I think part of the intrigue, because this is
Speaker 2: my this is part of my answer to your question.
Speaker 2: Part of the intrigue was I feel like her Edwards
Speaker 2: can get me to the NFL. And I think Jade
Speaker 2: and Daniels and he talks about it that he saw
Speaker 2: himself as this kind of player when he was a
Speaker 2: young kid and his whole thing was about playing and
Speaker 2: playing great in the NFL. And he said, you know,
Speaker 2: I could go to Utah and and and how many
Speaker 2: you know, how many you know, they're not a hotbed
Speaker 2: for quarterback per se. But i could go to Arizona State,
Speaker 2: where I've got a coach who did coach in the NFL,
Speaker 2: who did play in the NFL. And then when that
Speaker 2: fell apart, he goes, I'm going to go to the
Speaker 2: big you know, he has a chance to go to LSU.
Speaker 2: So he's had this willingness to do whatever it took
Speaker 2: to go wherever he needed to go to get himself
Speaker 2: in the right position to be able to play at
Speaker 2: a high level because he was he was exceptional at
Speaker 2: at LSU. And I think that move to LSU was
Speaker 2: that thing that really kind of put him over over
Speaker 2: the top. And you know, and then and then on
Speaker 2: top of it, and this is the biggest thing I
Speaker 2: think of all spence of anyone, Like you know, they
Speaker 2: pulls Sha dur Sanders and so does he go, Don?
Speaker 2: Where does he go? Kind of thing? Jaydon Daniels went
Speaker 2: to a coach, went to a system that was like
Speaker 2: built for quarterbacks, and Cliff Kingsbury done a phenomenal job
Speaker 2: for a long time. You know, if you're a young quarterback,
Speaker 2: it's like, I want to go where that guy. I
Speaker 2: don't want to go any coach that's a defensive minded coach,
Speaker 2: don't I don't want to go there. Don't put me there,
Speaker 2: don't let me go there. I'll retire before I ever
Speaker 2: start kind of mindset. And Jadan Daniels really lucked into
Speaker 2: the right coach at the right time to fit who
Speaker 2: he is, and they've done a beautiful job of really
Speaker 2: accentuating what he can really do. And I mean he's
Speaker 2: consistently done it all season long.
Speaker 1: He has all right, it was inevitable that the sports
Speaker 1: media news cycle was going to contain a lot of
Speaker 1: Lamark just cannot do this come playoff time content, and
Speaker 1: I had to at some point turn it off because
Speaker 1: it just gets so Scott. I do not think wins
Speaker 1: and losses are a quarterback stat That's my opinion. But
Speaker 1: having said that, the record is what it is. That
Speaker 1: looked like a very cold and challenging place to try
Speaker 1: to play quarterback, and the other team has Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and they're pretty good, So what's fair to say today,
Speaker 1: on this Monday after the Ravens and the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson once again are ousted early on in
Speaker 1: the postseason.
Speaker 2: But when you have two players, you have two teams
Speaker 2: that are competing at a high level. Every little play,
Speaker 2: every moment matters, and with the turnovers and the drop
Speaker 2: passes in the in the critical times, the teams that win,
Speaker 2: they find a way to get it done. At the
Speaker 2: end of the game, they find a way to close
Speaker 2: it out and win it. And you have to It's
Speaker 2: it's just a learned thing. I mean, Peyton Manning, I
Speaker 2: think the first five years he was in the playoffs
Speaker 2: he really struggled. And you know, and there's a lot
Speaker 2: of guys have been really good that haven't been amazing
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and then you have some other guys that,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of kind of do a better job.
Speaker 2: So I agree with you, and the wins and losses
Speaker 2: and playoffs and Super Bowls really shouldn't account for the
Speaker 2: greatness of a quarterback, for sure. But because I love
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and I think he put him in a
Speaker 2: position in a tough environment, in tough playing conditions to
Speaker 2: tie the game and you know, he throws a nice
Speaker 2: touchdown pass late and the guy drops the ball. Guy
Speaker 2: the same guy fumbles the ball earlier as they're moving
Speaker 2: into score. And you know that's that's not on Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: I mean he was there. You know, he was a
Speaker 2: guy that was present when the game was on the line.
Speaker 2: He didn't fold, he didn't crumble from it. He did
Speaker 2: what he had to do to put him in a
Speaker 2: position to win the game. If I'm a coach Spence
Speaker 2: and I got a chance to have Lamar Jackson on
Speaker 2: my team, I raised both hands. I said, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I love the guy, and I think he's done an
Speaker 2: exceptional job of becoming a multi dimensional player. He really
Speaker 2: throws the ball a lot better than he did in
Speaker 2: the past. And then but he's just this elite runner
Speaker 2: as well. And so I like his game. I like
Speaker 2: it a lot. And he'll just keep playing, you know,
Speaker 2: he'll eventually get this off his back and and and whok.
Speaker 2: He's a great talent. I don't know why people are
Speaker 2: ragging on him.
Speaker 1: Scott, as a Jets fan, I'd trade the Statue of
Speaker 1: Liberty for Lamar Jackson. Kidding me, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what that would do for the Ravens. But no, to
Speaker 1: your point, yeah, like you take him on your team
Speaker 1: every time. All right, let's move over now. Actually, no,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Chiefs Texans. The narrative
Speaker 1: seems to be after a really strong rookie season, c J.
Speaker 1: Stroud has kind of come back down to earth.
Speaker 2: Is that fair?
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean because he was you know, the same
Speaker 2: thing with Jaydan Daniels, you know. And I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: go back to what I said in the be getting
Speaker 2: it's hard to win. I remember one of the first
Speaker 2: things that Dan Marino ever told me, and it just
Speaker 2: really stuck with me. He said, I went to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl my second year, and he goes, I had
Speaker 2: this unbelievable see you know throw. I mean, he sent
Speaker 2: this record back in nineteen ninety or nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 2: you know, just it was insane what he was doing
Speaker 2: throwing the football then. And he and they just march
Speaker 2: through everyone go to the Super Bowl and they get
Speaker 2: trounced by the forty nine ers. But he goes, we
Speaker 2: thought we would be back to the super Bowl every
Speaker 2: year after that. Like I just I just and and
Speaker 2: and every every year. He never ever got back again.
Speaker 2: And he was a tremendous player. And you know, I
Speaker 2: really liked CJ. Stroud. I've liked him. When he played
Speaker 2: Utah in the Rose Bowl. I just was very impressed
Speaker 2: with how he threw the ball and and uh and
Speaker 2: I just really liked it, liked his game. But you know,
Speaker 2: every season is just it's it's its own thing. And
Speaker 2: and you can't live on what happened in the past.
Speaker 2: You have to find a way to evolve your game.
Speaker 2: Because coaches go, those coaches sit in those rooms, Spence,
Speaker 2: they sit in the dark for hours and they go,
Speaker 2: how do we beat this guy? What's his weakness? Where
Speaker 2: what can we do to just really mess with him?
Speaker 2: You know? And Bill Belichick is a master at all
Speaker 2: that stuff. And then til you can adjust your game
Speaker 2: and kind of figure it out and evolve, you know,
Speaker 2: and and things have to bounce right, It's it's really hard.
Speaker 2: So I'm not down on CJ. Stroud, not surprised that
Speaker 2: this has happened. The NFL is cruel. It's just it
Speaker 2: is a hard business to win and and and to
Speaker 2: be consistently good for a long period of time. It
Speaker 2: speaks volumes of a player and their ability, and of
Speaker 2: course the team that they're on.
Speaker 1: We've got conference Championship Sunday coming up, and at this
Speaker 1: point I'm not going to doubt Washington. Like I said,
Speaker 1: thirty three years since their last NFC Championship appearance. Philly's
Speaker 1: getting five and a half. As far as the spread goes,
Speaker 1: we don't really have an accurate forecast, but it's Philadelphia
Speaker 1: in January, so I'm sure it won't be awesome. Like
Speaker 1: I said, it's hard to pick against him. Do you
Speaker 1: think this magical run continues or do you like Philly?
Speaker 2: Well? What Here's one of the things that's really good
Speaker 2: about Dad and Daniels and why he's having success is
Speaker 2: mechanically he's really sound, so his throwing motion holds up
Speaker 2: like in the pressure situations. Think of like a free
Speaker 2: throw shooter. You know you got someone with just a
Speaker 2: nice stroke and in pressure situations, you know it just
Speaker 2: doesn't crumble. But to get a guy who's kind of
Speaker 2: got bad form and it's just accentuated when he's at
Speaker 2: the line and even if there's more pressure on So
Speaker 2: that mechanically sound motion allowed for him to be pretty
Speaker 2: consistent throwing the football and especially in pressure situations. I'm
Speaker 2: just telling you, he's just got a demeanor, he's got
Speaker 2: a mindset. It would be hard to bet against him.
Speaker 2: But folks, you know, these two teams have played each
Speaker 2: other twice this year. This will be the third time,
Speaker 2: so he's not going to be unfamiliar to the to
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles and vice versa. You know, these teams
Speaker 2: know each other well, and they're gonna know probably better
Speaker 2: than anyone, how to prepare for and how to eliminate,
Speaker 2: you know, some of these successes or comfort, you know,
Speaker 2: plays that he's had, and so it's a tough thing.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to predict things when you've played each other,
Speaker 2: you know, two or three times in a year.
Speaker 1: And then the afternoon game, of course, everyone's going to
Speaker 1: be talking about this for the second straight year. We're
Speaker 1: going to see the Bills and the Chiefs and Narrowhead
Speaker 1: and the winner will advance to the super Bowl. It
Speaker 1: just I don't know, Scott. I'll see to you because
Speaker 1: you played and you're the expert here. It just feels
Speaker 1: like it's Josh's time to me. But I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: because Kansas City just finds a way to figure it
Speaker 1: out week in week out, But who'd you like in
Speaker 1: the afternoon until at Arrowhead.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's so it's so hard because I
Speaker 2: feel like Kansas City has been living on borrow time
Speaker 2: all this year. And there are kind of some there's
Speaker 2: a statement or a thought process where it takes a
Speaker 2: little bit more time to win before you should and
Speaker 2: then you win a little bit after you shouldn't, just
Speaker 2: because you're so experienced and you're just so savvy as
Speaker 2: a team. And that kind of feels like where Kansas
Speaker 2: City is right now. They feel like they're an injury
Speaker 2: or just a bump and the bruise away from kind
Speaker 2: of falling off the cliff. It's hard. No one's ever
Speaker 2: like won three super Bowls in a row, which tells
Speaker 2: you how hard that is. So I kind of tend
Speaker 2: to agree with you. I just I just feel like
Speaker 2: this is Josh Josh Allen's year. He's a guy that's
Speaker 2: evolved and learned how to win and learned how to
Speaker 2: kind of modify his game and and and manage you know,
Speaker 2: kind of how much and when he runs, which is
Speaker 2: I think a good thing because I think he's relatively
Speaker 2: healthy at this time of year, and and he's a
Speaker 2: guy that's you know, not uncomfortable going into that environment.
Speaker 2: He's been there before and and played well and so
Speaker 2: and I don't think the Buffalo Bills are unfamiliar with
Speaker 2: that environment either. But you know, it feels like it's
Speaker 2: his year. But man, don't don't don't count out Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: You're not wrong there all right, before I set you
Speaker 1: lose National Championship College Football, National Championship. It's on our
Speaker 1: radio station. He kicks off in exactly one hour. At
Speaker 1: eight minutes, Ohio State is getting nine points. Scott can
Speaker 1: notre Day make this a fair fight.
Speaker 2: I don't really think so. Personally, I think Ohio State
Speaker 2: is clearly the better team. I think they're a team
Speaker 2: that's ready to win. H I think they're they're they
Speaker 2: have more talent just to cross the board as as
Speaker 2: a team, both on offense and defense. And I think
Speaker 2: I think winning and having a playoff format like this
Speaker 2: has kind of been a good thing for Ryan Day
Speaker 2: where he doesn't have the pressure of winning the Big
Speaker 2: Twelve championship and and and so having an expanded playoff
Speaker 2: I think gave them a little bit of a Mulligan.
Speaker 2: You know, because you and I think playing it appeared
Speaker 2: the teams that played more and didn't have to buy
Speaker 2: actually did better in the playoffs. And that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: it's going to be that way. I think every year
Speaker 2: it will be different. But I love the playoff format.
Speaker 2: I love you know what what it's what it's brought
Speaker 2: to the table. And I'm actually glad these two teams
Speaker 2: are playing. And but I just I think Ohio State
Speaker 2: is the better team.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Scott. Thank you for your time today, buddy,
Speaker 1: have a great week, enjoy the game tonight, and then
Speaker 1: hopefully you can get you soon.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, look forward tone, Thanks bitch, all right.
Speaker 1: Scott Mitched one of the best to ever do it
Speaker 1: at the University of Utah, played in the NFL for
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions and smother teams as well. Appreciate as
Speaker 1: him