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Speaker 3: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Hockey Live back once again. Jesse Severe, Fan Tracks,

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Speaker 4: How you doing, Victor, I'm doing awesome, Jesse. Yeah, definitely

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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, the whole hockey spirit has gone silent,

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Speaker 2: Be right back to talk some LA Kings. We welcome

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to the show. Back to the show, Dennis Bernstein, ready

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to talk to us about some LA Kings. Dennis, how

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you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great in the middle ofgitly talking hockey you kidd.

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I mean this as always great feating on the podcast.

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Two guys, I mean, we did it last year, happy

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to do it again this year.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we love it. We love you are a great

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resource on these LA Kings and they're a fascinating team. Boy.

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It had to be frustrating. Though I'm not going to

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bury the lead, it had to be a frustrated into

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the season. Only Connor Hellibuck's Jets were more stingy allowing

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goals in the regular season than the LA Kings. Only

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the Carolina Hurricanes allowed fewer shots on goald. This was

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a good defensive team, and while they're teams five on five,

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of course, it was fifth in the league. The power

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play was bottom ten, and our overall scoring fell in

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the middle of the pack. And we know how it ended.

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And as a Cap supporter who watched the NHL's playoff

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format put the Caps up against Pens all those years,

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I feel that pain. In the offseason, the team did

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not mess around. This team is ready to make some moves.

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on the East Coast, and they signed a lot of

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LA Kings, most of whom are probably not going to

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be big talks for today because they won't be fantasy relevant,

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but they could play a big role on the Kings.

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What do you make of this whirlwind year, and especially

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Speaker 3: Dennis, I don't know, not sure. There's a lot of

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ifs and maybes and bots. They should be one hundred

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point team like defenses of I assume Darcy. Maybe he

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won't get a VES nomination Kemper, but he should be

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pretty good. The systems still there, they still have quality players.

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I don't know. And look here's what Ken Holland did.

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He said it to me in the press conference when

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he was here. He wanted to improve this team on

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the margins. He says, I'm not going to uproot a

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and five point team. Yeah, there are one hundred and

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five point team and they're all for four in the

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playoffs against the Edmonton Olers. So he tried. What he

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the biggest issue I had with Jim Hiller? And if

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people saw the press conference after Game four, you probably

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would have heard that famous line. If that's my favorite line.

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He didn't trust the depth Jesse, simple as that. I

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wound up playing nine forwards and four defenseman against the

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Edmonton Odlers. I said, okay, we're gonna do rope, but

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the Muhammad Ali used to do. Let the Kings punch

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themselves out the last five to ten minutes of the game.

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that's what happens. So what did Kendem Holland do for

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a coach that didn't trust the fourth line? He brought

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in Corey Perry and Joel Armia for a coach that

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didn't trust the third pair. Now it's Brian Doomlan and

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Code CC And I know a lot of Kings fans

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are running for the exits because they signed Cody Cecy

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to that contract. But to you look at the depth chart,

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he's a six best defenseman if your six. If he's

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your six bests defenseman, that's fine. I remember this time

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last year when they signed Joel Edmonton and everybody rip

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Rob Blakeer. That was one of the best signings of

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the free agent period. Ken Holland is trying to improve

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this team on the margins. You're talking about the offense.

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for nothing. They did have two thirty five goal scorers

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on this team, so it's not like their devotive talent here.

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from a fairier. So they're a very good team. I

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don't think Jesse until we get to game eighty three

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where we have it a solve with the specter. Did

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these things move? You could certainly see they wanted more

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veteran presence and someone the coach can trust latent games

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in the playoffs. That's why these moves were made.

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Speaker 2: One of those thirty five goal scorers was Adrian Kempy,

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and he just continues to amaze me for the jump

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he took in scoring from his first four years in

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the pros to the second four seventy three points in

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eighty one games. Not quite the rate that he had

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the year before where he just had an amazing maybe

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career season, but still awesome. He's durable, he takes three

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shots a game, he throws more than a hit a game,

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and he's tops on the team in goals of of replacement.

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I have to think he's going to be up for

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a big rays next summer. He's only five and a

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half mil right now. Good news is he'll turn thirty

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next offseason, so maybe he'll be able to get paid

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as well. What did you see in kempy last year

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and is he at his peak or is there another

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think Adrian's a fifty goal scorer, but

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he's sure as hell as a thirty five goal scorer.

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couple of seasons ago. He's a leader. He is probably

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their most complete player right now. I think it's someday

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they'll be quitd in buyfield. But he does all the

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things that you asked to do, and he has physical

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and he has a mean streak about him, but he's

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smart with his mean streak. He doesn't think a lot

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of foolish penalties. I asked the Edmonton Oils about him

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in the playoffs. He's a killer in the playoffs. So

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point total was believed what it was last year. But

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I don't think he's a hundred point player either. I

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don't think his offense can carry or a matter of fact,

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one hundred point player, but I think he could get

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to eighty five. I at least they went forty and

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say forty five with a better power play, and that'll

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be functioning all the year. With Dowdy back, with expect

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more from Clark, and with Kuzmenko there, I think he

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could hit about maybe eighty five tops. But no, he's

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not going to be a top ten scorer this league.

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I just don't think that the offense allows her at

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Speaker 2: And Jacob Patar locked to Adrian Kempy's hip last season,

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a reliable veteran LA's second favorite Slovenian athlete these days.

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He'll turn thirty eight before the season. I did a

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query on stat head through a Hockey Reference He is

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forty third in NHL career scoring overall, and he should.

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going to get up to at least thirty second two

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seasons would put him on the edge of the top

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twenty scorers of all time, depending on how long Paddy

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kanean Up, Guinea Malkinn hang on there. So he's in

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no doubt Hall of Famer, Stanley Cups everything. Of course,

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the other part of that, you get to those numbers

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when you're very advanced in your career. He's on an

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expiring deal, but no doubt, not just a franchise legend

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hanging on, but still a positive force in this lineup,

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still a positive contributor, it seems. But I guess the

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question is when is father time coming? Are you expecting

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continued sixty seven points like you have last year? And

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will it be Onji's last for the Kings.

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Speaker 3: I bugged him about that last year because I know

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since he's been here for about eighteen years, and I

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thought he was going to go home after this coming season,

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go back to Slovenia. He's a beautiful house on the lake,

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the wife, the kids, they don't want to go back

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to Slovenia, but Ken Holland's trying to convince him to

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sign for another year. I think it'd be situation like

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a Joe Thornton or a Pavowski, you go year of

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the year. I think it depends on the fate of

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the team. If they actually do something in the playoffs.

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Let's say they get to a conference final or even

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a Cup final, which I don't expect, maybe that stems

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the tod front to come back. With respect to his production,

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we keep waiting for that word regression, and there's no regression.

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He's never been the fastest skating in the league, but

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he's certainly one of the top IQ guys in the league.

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Without question. Is seventy points again out of the question? No,

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absolutely not. He's playing on the top line, who's maker

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will be there all year. It should be an improved

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power play now with the specta goal and assist distribution.

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I think it's probably if you're looking at seventy, you're

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probably looking at twenty five and forty five. He's not

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going to score thirty goals again, right, He's not gonna

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look at the score thirty goals again. You want other

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players to score. I think that the high scoring goal

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center on this team will be Byfield this year, but

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it's not out of the question for him to replicate

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sixty seven or seventy points. North of that. I doubt

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it because he's probably going to be the two seed

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this year, But certainly I don't think it's a situation

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where he's going to go to fifty or forty five points.

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He's healthy, he wants to continue to play, He's playing

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with great linemates, so I think in and around what

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he got last year is what you're probably going to

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Speaker 4: Sounds good. All right, let's talk about Kevin Fiala next.

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So slightly down season for Fiala sixty one point pace

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back in twenty for twenty five with a one games

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played seventy three point pace previously, and then he had

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those two seasons that were above point per game, which

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was pretty awesome. His shooting percentage was a bit high

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this season. PDO was a little low, and the lines

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shuffled around quite a bit. First two quarters catered with

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the Nome and More and then La Farrier. In the

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second half it was Byfield La Farrier, which you know,

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certainly seems like a much better place for him in

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terms of producing. The goals and assists and power play

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points are all really nice. His bash is just above

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four per game black shots and hits, so he's ranked

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in that two hundred range in terms of that, and

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he's in year four of that seven year deal. So

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I guess the question is he cemented with Byfield and

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the Farrier on that line too, and will he continue

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to be a true top power play and point producer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he led the team power play goals with eleven

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or forty double digits. Right, So yeah, if they move

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him off of Byfield on La Faria, it's a mistake

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because if you look at the other it's not because

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he won't fit there. The other two top nine lines

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work really well. That's the spot. And what you mentioned

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with the specta Fiala and his point total. Last year

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he had thirty five goals. Where he really dropped off

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was an assist and to your point about why he did,

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they moved him around a lot. He wasn't didn't have

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two linemans, and players talk about out it doesn't really matter.

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I got to play my game. It does matter. And

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with Buyfield, who you assume going to merge this year

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produce more than he did. He was their leading scorer.

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I think from twenty five games to go and in

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he was their best player, their best scorer. So Byfield

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left farrier, I think he's going to get more assists.

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He'll still eat on the power play. So I got

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to think of the players to make a quantitative jump

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here or qualitative jump would be Fiala because of the

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assist total, I think Kevin is still the thirty goal scorer.

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and Cuzmenko is Fiala alike because he doesn't have the

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finish that Kevin does. But I would not be shocked

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if Kevin went thirty five and thirty five. I think

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there would be a jump of a maybe ten or

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fifteen points because I think his spots settled. The power

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play should be improved, and because of that, his goal

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total won't elevate more than thirty five. But I certainly

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think his assists total well nice. I love to hear that.

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Speaker 4: And you already mentioned Quinn Byfield, and he's been one

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of my favorite players for a long time, so let's

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talk about him now. It was definitely a good but

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different year for Buyfield twenty twenty three. He was more

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of the passenger with copeitar Kempe and then he centered

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his own line, usually the second line, sometimes the third line.

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It does it doesn't matter how you number them, but

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he was driving his own line this season, and the

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second half of the season he was with Fiela and

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Lafti Aer as I mentioned, and the power play time

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when ice went up this season, which was really nice.

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He actually went down a little bit, but it was

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more than he'd had previously. He had the twenty three goals,

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thirty one assists. The block shots and hits are a

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little lower than we would have maybe hoped for. We

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always liked those peripherals, but he's three point three six

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of those and only seven power play points, so we're

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hoping to get quite a bit more of that. He

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signed that five by six point twenty five before this season,

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which is going to look like such a gem for

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a few years now because it's going.

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Speaker 3: To be a minimum salary deal, like almost picked up with.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be like an entry level contract on most

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and you look at his underlyings and they're incredible, like

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across the board expected goals and goals against the goals

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for of course he all that looks great. I think

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the question is, we know sometimes bigger guys take longer,

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but it's two hundred and sixty games now for Byfield,

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and he seems maybe stuck at fifty five points pace.

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I think there's more than that. So the question for you, Dennis,

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is he gonna get time on that top power played?

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Can he reach those greater heights seventy plus points? What

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do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so if you look at his playoffs, right,

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six games, three goals, assist, twenty two minutes of ice time,

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Like they're gonna lean into him, and he has to

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become the number one center this year. It can't be

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Copeitar anymore. And because of that and late he scored late.

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His issue Victor like confidence in his shot, Like he's

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got a really good shot. And for the longest time,

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why he didn't elevate over fifty five or fifty four points,

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He didn't trust it a lot, like he was always deferential.

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What you saw in the last quarter of the season,

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Victor is an alpha dog, a guy who's willing to

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take the shot, willing to make the play. And you

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saw some highlight and when he does that, you see

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the highlight reel goals. I don't think there's any reason

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why this guy can't be a point of going player,

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and maybe challenge can't be for the team lead and scoring.

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He's that good, he's that hard to defend, he's getting smarter,

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he's got dedicated a lot mates who can finish for him. Right,

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So there's no reason why this should be the biggest jump.

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It has to be the biggest jump, because if there's

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any regression from Copaitar victory, then you're gonna have to

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have him fill in that point too. It's not going

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to be filled to out right. So expect big things

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from him this year. I really do. I saw the

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maturity of this player. And remember he's coming to the season,

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Victor with a chip on his shoulder, because as we

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go back to Game four, he doesn't make that clear

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but gets the tying goal. And I asked him the

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exit meetings about that, like how long you're going to

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think about that? And he said all summer. So he's

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the man on the mission. He's got all the tools,

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he's cutting in just coming into his prime. I expecting

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big things. So if you want to play this player,

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I'd be all for it because I really think he

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can get to a point of game shot.

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Speaker 2: Every time you say something nice about Quintin byfield, Victor's

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smile gets about half an inch wider because he's our

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number one by field stand. Over the years, he.

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Speaker 3: Really proved something Jesse in the last quarter season, he

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really did. He's become a leader and he's become an

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elite player. So it's going to be exciting season to

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see how.

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Speaker 2: He elevates outstanding Andre Kuzmenko. You've mentioned him on his

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fourth team in just his third NHL campaign, he really

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found a role in the top six of the Kings.

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You mentioned that he clicked when he got over there,

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scored seventeen points in twenty two games before going a

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point per game in the playoffs. Locked in with the

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affirmation the guitar and kempe is that three kse Do

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you have a three K line? It's probably you can't

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use they're all ak's okay, one of them needs to

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be forty seven. Anyway, he and the Kings were both

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very happy with the situation. Kuzmenko signed up for another

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year at a relative bargain price. Was this version of

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Kuzmenko for real? And is he going to stay in

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this top role for the team next year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no other spot to put him yet, so

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I got to think so, and it worked, and he

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had chemistry and he's going to make a good deal, right,

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He's allows to prove it right, And they got him.

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His cap pit was over five million yesterad. They got

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him for what four or five So look at a

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short time frame there seventeen points twenty two games, three goals,

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three assists in the playoffs, a point of game player,

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like almost a point of game player for the twenty

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eight games. Now, do I think he's going to get

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back to his rookie year in Vancouver where he scored

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thirty nine goals. I don't. He's not a finisher, he's

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a facilitator. But do I think he could get to

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I don't know, sixty points. I think they'd be thrilled

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with that, and I think it would be more twenty

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forty than thirty thirty. I don't think even see him

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as a thirty. He's going to have to have more

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of a shot mentality. See that. And the one thing

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about his playoffs early on as the team was they

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were great in the first couple of games. As the

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games got tougher in the playoffs, not so much. He

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was a little bit more invisible. He wasn't it because

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he's not a big guy, but he's shifty. He's got

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that right handed shots with this power play really needed

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with respec to why it was lacking all season. They

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really find that right handed presence. The fact they didn't

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go after it, they couldn't go after Marner and brock

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Besher came back. They Now, this is a guy who

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I think can get to sixty points, but that probably

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not more than that because his goal scoring isn't what

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I think it needs to be to get to elevate

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to a point a game player, but it's a smart ad.

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He's going to be a motivated player and the chemistry works.

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So I don't know where else, Jesse you would put

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him in the lineup. His spot is with Copeitar and

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Kempe and I think it will be successful because on

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what I saw late season and in the playoffs between

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those three.

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Speaker 2: Wow, all right, two of the more We're gonna throw

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a couple at a time here at you Warren Fogel,

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Trevor Moore, a couple of guys who were middle sixers.

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You talked about stacking up at the bottom more in Fogel.

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Both had productive, very productive seasons, both on a forty

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six point pace. Both of them will throw some hits

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and take a few shots to kind of the middle

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line type guys. Which one of you think is going

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to be more productive in the coming year.

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Speaker 3: That was a great question. When I read the rundown

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that you sent me, I think it might end in

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a tie. That's how close to these guys. I think

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what happened with with Trevor who I really love Trevor,

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got to know him. He's a really good but really

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like the middle six type of player you need to win.

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Trevor was hurt. He's banged a little banged up. I

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think he played seventy one games last year right and

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his shot came back to him. He's got a sneaky

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wrist shot that fools a lot of goaltenders. So I'd

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give a slight edge to More because I think it's

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a little bit more that's a great bad punt. A

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little bit more for More. I think with Fogel you're

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gonna get twenty goals. They're going to be all five

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on five. He's not a power play merchant, but he's

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a guy that's a lot of goals for a middle

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six guy to score five on five. So I think

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they're going to come in around forty five to fifty points.

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Flip a coin, I think the production will be almost

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the same. I lean a little bit more towards Trevor

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Moore because of his shot. I think that also Fogel

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again have the same level of production him. Denot and more,

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that's a really nice third line for this team.

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Speaker 2: And two others. These two are a little bit more different.

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All those size wise and production wise, very similar. Philip

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de know who've been there a few years, kind of

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a shutdown centerman, Alex Laferrier who's really been breaking out,

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and now people misspell Alexis Lepregnier. They're thinking of Alex

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Laferrier obviously the productive one of the two. So of

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those two, who do you like better?

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Speaker 3: Lafarier because he's playing upper, he's playing up in the lineup.

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Dano is, you're probably gonna get what. Look, I think

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the goal total for Denot was way low, and late

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in the season he started shooting in the park, so

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it got to what eight goals last year I got.

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I think he's a fifteen goal scorer, so that would

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if you think that, then with thirty goals fifteen thirty

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forty five, I think Alex has opportunity here to get

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to maybe upper twenties with the spectrum's goal total and

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no plan on line where he's going to get assists

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with Fiala and buyfield, So he think he's in a

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really nice spot. So so you got to hope because

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La Farrier is elevated in the lineup, one line above

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what Denau is, and I know that the players the

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coaches talk about, Oh it's just it's just three lone, No,

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it's not. Your second line is to buy field line.

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And because of that, I think the point total Lo

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Fario would be a little bit higher, probably closer maybe

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fifty five or sixty. I think to know, I think

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he's stuck in here because he's where he's now. Basically,

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for all intents and purposes, they're three set, right, So

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I think he's going to be stuck in that forty

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five to fifty range, so with ReSpectacle point total. So

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like the Ferry for La Farrier over the no next season.

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Speaker 2: Over on the blue line. The other major link to

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the Cup's legacy, the King's Cup Legacy teams Drew Dowdy.

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That really long contract that scared some of us for

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a long time is down to two years and he

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has pretty much held up except that an ankle injury

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cost him the majority of last season. It's unclear whether

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he was really recovered when he returned at the end

474
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,160
of January, but he still managed seventeen points and thirty

475
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,839
games and skated twenty four eight average time on ied.

476
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,400
Anybody else, that would be absurd ice time twenty four

477
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,200
h eight, But for Dowdy it was the lowest average

478
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,079
ice time since his rookie season. Twenty four h eight

479
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,079
was the bash rates the black Shots hits a little

480
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,319
bit down last year. Is Dowdy further maybe down the

481
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,000
inevitable decline phase that we're afraid Copaitar might hit, or

482
00:22:21,319 --> 00:22:23,559
could he have another vintage year or two at age

483
00:22:23,599 --> 00:22:26,480
thirty five, if he's recovered from last year's damage.

484
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 3: Just look, there's a high amount of hate for this player,

485
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,839
like he's watched out. They should buy him out, they

486
00:22:32,839 --> 00:22:34,920
should trade him. Look, he had a rough playoff. He

487
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,200
was a minus seven of the playoffs. He wasn't one

488
00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:39,519
hundred percent with the specter's ankle, So he's chasing around

489
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,680
Connor and Leon, even though Connor and Leon really didn't

490
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,720
score that much when they beat him, it was his

491
00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:46,079
other players time did more damage. I don't know why

492
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,079
they're off the Dowdy train, because if you go back

493
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,160
to before his injury last preseason, you could the last

494
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,119
two seasons he was a fifty point player. He had

495
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,079
a great season in twenty three twenty four, he had

496
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,640
fifteen goals fifty points. I don't know why if he's

497
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,359
one hundred percent of healthy and maybe you want to

498
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,079
wait on this player until you see what he's doing

499
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,359
in training camp and how much he's playing, because he's

500
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,519
probably gonna need a training camp. Can he make those

501
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,640
moves that he told me last year he was eighty percent.

502
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,359
Can he make the moves that he needs to make

503
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,799
to get to one hundred percent as well as the

504
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,200
eighty If that's the case, then he's still going to

505
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,400
be top unit power play guy. Even though though they

506
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,279
will use five forwards and they used it late in

507
00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:20,599
the season. I don't know why he couldn't get back

508
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,599
maybe not fifty, but could he get the double digit

509
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,079
goals and maybe forty five points? I think so. Right now,

510
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,920
the key would be also be time on nice because

511
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,079
you mentioned the time on nice has dropped three seasons

512
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,599
in a row. Twenty six fourteen, twenty five forty eight,

513
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,480
twenty fourh eight, twenty four oh eight might be the

514
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,559
right price for him to play now because you have

515
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,480
Brand Clark coming and there's an advanced ageustry. He's not

516
00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:44,279
going to play twenty seven minutes a night like he

517
00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:46,640
did in the playoffs, and that was the issue. He

518
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,599
played a lot in the playoffs. Twenty seven minutes. That's

519
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,880
too much for that player. But I think with the

520
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,160
spectro productivity you mentioned seventeen points in thirty games, and

521
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,440
if he gets to one hundred percent health, I think

522
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,599
he can approach what he did in twenty three twenty four.

523
00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:01,240
I don't think theres any reason not to. He's still

524
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,400
a competitive player. You mentioned he played in the Four

525
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,119
Nations as well. I'm not sure why there's so many

526
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,119
people dismiss it or think that Drew seeing better days.

527
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,400
I think he's got at least one more season in

528
00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:14,200
him at that level. I think next season could be it.

529
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 4: I think it was four or five seasons ago now

530
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,640
that somebody traded me Drew Dowdy because he was done

531
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:22,559
in a fantast creek, and I've reaped that benefit ever since.

532
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:25,400
I'm not dropping him until he's officially retired because I

533
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,440
think he'll still be good. Let's talk about the young

534
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,160
gun that you refer to, Brant Clark. He had a

535
00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:34,039
decent rookie year. He had some games before, but he

536
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,960
played nearly a full season seventy eight games. His time

537
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,720
on ice really was all over the place in the

538
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,599
different quarters. Quarter one it was just under nineteen minutes,

539
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,880
and it went down to fifteen thirty nine. Quarter three

540
00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:48,079
was pretty low twelve fifty, and then pumped back up

541
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,079
to just over sixteen minutes and the power play wavered

542
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,640
with that. He did ended up having a pretty decent

543
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,279
number of points. Five goals, twenty eight assists. He did

544
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,400
not shoot a whole lot, just a little under two

545
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,240
per game. He had a decent number of blocks for

546
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,039
his time on ice and nine power play points. So

547
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,759
the bash was three point five to one, ranking him

548
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,759
in the three hundreds. Not ideal there, but still getting

549
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:13,680
his feet under him. His offensive metrics look really good.

550
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,519
Defensively he looked a little underwater there. He is still

551
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,720
finding his place. So with Dowdy healthy this year, what

552
00:25:20,839 --> 00:25:22,759
do you think Clark's role is going to be? Dennis

553
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:24,599
and should he have an increased time on ice With

554
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:29,000
Spence and Gabkov now changing teams, this has to be.

555
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: The year for bran Clock to breakthrough. This is it

556
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,680
and he looked he was the hot leading scorer defensively

557
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,359
for this team last year. That's more statement about how

558
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,119
the lack of offensive journerators from this team, and now

559
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,359
the second and third leading scorers, Gabrikoff and Spence are gone.

560
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,640
Now Dowdy's not going to score seventeen points this year,

561
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:47,200
so he's going to be more productive. But this has

562
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,440
to be the breaker. And here I mentioned early in

563
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:54,559
this spot about trust, Jimmiella has to trust blank Clock

564
00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:57,279
more than play him sixteen minutes a night. If Cody

565
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,759
CC is playing more than brand Clark, there's a problem.

566
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:01,960
This player has to come through. It's time. He has

567
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:05,119
all the tools. He's an X factor, he's a wild card.

568
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:08,079
He wasn't player. He wasn't that bad defensively, he was

569
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:10,640
a plus thirteen. I know there are other guys on

570
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,920
this team, like Spence and Gavikov that were in the twenties,

571
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,319
but this has They have to take the range off

572
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,759
brand Clark now. The time is now. He's played enough games.

573
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:20,240
He played seventy eight games last year, Victor, he got healthy,

574
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,440
scratched a couple of times like this has to be

575
00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:24,160
the guy who takes the ruins if they're going to

576
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,880
elevate right off of getting limited in the first round.

577
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,400
This has to be a key player has to. And

578
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,680
the one concern I have about him productivity wise is

579
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:36,519
his goal scoring, Like so far he hasn't proved to

580
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,920
be a great goal scorer. His shooting percentage last year

581
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,160
was three point eight percent. That has to be better.

582
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,559
He's got the tools, maybe doesn't look he does have

583
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:46,039
a booming slap shot like Judas from the point, but

584
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,880
he's got to get more than five. He's got to

585
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,480
get the double figures. I think the most pressure on

586
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,839
any player because you look at the look there's an

587
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,839
ab here right Buyfield and Clark. If they're gonna get

588
00:26:56,839 --> 00:26:58,720
to the next level, both these players have to elevate,

589
00:26:58,799 --> 00:27:01,160
take the lead, be the best center, be the best

590
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240
defenseman on the team. No doubt that Beifel can do

591
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,359
that now at this point, I'm not sure about Clark,

592
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:09,200
like this is a huge year for him. But at

593
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,599
what I do know about this player, and I've asked

594
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,759
him about his confidence a couple of times this year

595
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:16,240
when he got healthy scratch when things weren't going well.

596
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:19,079
This player doesn't lack of confidence, like he knows this

597
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,640
is the year and I'm sure we'll will remind him

598
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,359
in training camp that this is the year that really

599
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:25,440
he needs to get out of that thirty three point

600
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,279
level and get to a fifty or fifty five points.

601
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:30,720
He has to have that breakout season if they're going

602
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:32,960
to succeed. Like I mentioned, breakout season. So if you

603
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,640
like that bet, you take that bet. You bet on

604
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:37,200
Brant Clark. But this is a pivotal season for this

605
00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:40,039
player because he really has to prove that when they

606
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,839
drafted him as high as they did at number eight,

607
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,119
that it was worth that pick.

608
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I'm looking forward to these steps being

609
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,559
taken forward. Let's move on to the goalies. The Kinks

610
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:52,480
were ranked number one in the NHL and expected goals

611
00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,359
against for sixty and conceded the second ranked actual goals

612
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,400
per game. That's pretty great, so you can tell by

613
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,680
those numbers that they're expected. Their goalies performed pretty well,

614
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,400
a little bit close to as expected. Kemper's the main

615
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,759
guy there, outstanding season, twenty nine goals save above expected.

616
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:13,200
His delta Fenwick was one point five to nine. His

617
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,880
contract statusy's got one more. He's in your four of

618
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000
the five point two five, which is pretty reasonable. They're

619
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,839
bringing in Anton full Forstburg, who had an up and

620
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,160
down season for Ottawa. But I imagine it's going to

621
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,000
look a lot better behind this sound defensive team in LA. So, Dennis,

622
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:29,480
what do you think we can expect from the LA

623
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:30,440
goalies next season?

624
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: Forstbrook is an upgrade over Riddage, right, who was a

625
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,000
sub nine hundred save percentage. Great in a room, the

626
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,160
players love them, that's great. Make us safe, right, So

627
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,480
they're better there, right, Look, if they're gonna play the system, Victor,

628
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,759
then the numbers will be about the same. Now the

629
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:47,119
question is will they play the same system, will they

630
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,039
play the one two two? Will they be more aggressive?

631
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,200
Will they be more aggressive? For check? I don't see

632
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920
them making changes on the skating roster that lent himself

633
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,480
towards that. So I got to think this still is

634
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,079
going to go the one two two. It's still going

635
00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:00,480
to be a defensive first team. And Hiller, Andrew and

636
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,880
Top mcclumb before him. You check for your chances, that's

637
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,799
the mentality, that's the approach. I think it's still going

638
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,559
to be that approach. So with respectat I think, Look,

639
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,720
do I think that Darcy Camera is going to be

640
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:13,920
another Vesent No nominee this year? I don't. But do

641
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:16,440
I think he could be above average with respecta goals

642
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,200
against in savey percentage. Absolutely, because the system will protect him.

643
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:22,000
And I know people were hitting for the Hills when

644
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000
they traded for him out its washing when I wound

645
00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:26,400
up being a decent trade. Look, did what do bid

646
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,480
does in the playoffs? Didn't show up and they got

647
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:30,559
a good performance. They got a great performance from Darcy

648
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,440
Kempra in the playoffs. It wasn't the reason they lost.

649
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,920
It's because they were short their bench and the coach

650
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,640
didn't trust the depth. But the goaltending should be on par.

651
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,759
It's not better than last year because I think they'll

652
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:44,400
get better from Horsburg. Maybe a little bit of regression

653
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,960
from Darcy, but not much. He's healthy, he likes the system.

654
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,480
He's functioned in the system. Now the question is do

655
00:29:50,599 --> 00:29:52,720
you like the changes on defense, Victor. I think it's not.

656
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,240
I think the goaltending that the numbers will be a

657
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:58,640
referendum on what Holland did with the defense, because you

658
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,400
took out Gavratalk, you took out Spence, you put in

659
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,119
CC and Doomelin and CC. For all the criticism, he's

660
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,799
the top twenty five guy in block shots and this

661
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:09,599
team doesn't block a lot of shots. Now, I did

662
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,920
warn fans that block shot total. He did play for

663
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:15,759
San Jose for a good amount of games. He had

664
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:17,680
an opportunity to block a lot of shots because they

665
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,559
never had the puck. So I think if this defense's

666
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,000
functions as well as it does as it did last year,

667
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:25,160
those numbers should come in about the same. I think

668
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,319
they'll be a top ten team with the spect the defense,

669
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,039
maybe get the top five. The question is how much

670
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:32,559
do they want to generate offensively and change the style

671
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:35,359
of their team. I don't. I don't see it changing much.

672
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:37,880
I think the big key will be what happens in

673
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,480
training camp, how they go about their games in training camp.

674
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:42,880
But I do think that the goaltending overall will be

675
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:45,920
a slight improvement of over they had last season, which

676
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,519
is a good thing for the Los Angeles games.

677
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,279
Speaker 2: Tremendous, Dennis, this has been a nice tour through the

678
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,000
Elie Kings and getting ready to watch them next season.

679
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:56,519
Let people know where they can check out all your work.

680
00:30:57,319 --> 00:30:59,279
Speaker 3: I'm pretty conspicuous, Jesse. If you can't find me, it's

681
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,720
probably your full at the fourth Preer dot com. My

682
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:03,839
ex account is Dennis TFP. You can hear me on

683
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,079
Serious XM. I sometimes Holst with Steve Cooley is from

684
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:08,920
through to six on The Power Play, and then we

685
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,799
have our own show, The Hot Stove on Saturdays from

686
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:13,240
eleven to one Eastern. Like I said, I've been around,

687
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,079
I've been off the grid lately. I haven't done a

688
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:17,400
lot of appearances in July. But when Victor said the email,

689
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,119
I said, absolutely happy to hop on the Fantasy Podcast

690
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,039
with you guys. It's always a lot of fun talking

691
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:22,839
kings hockey with you.

692
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:27,039
Speaker 2: Out standy. We appreciate you so much. Thanks Dennis, what.

693
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,359
Speaker 3: Was a pleasure, Dres, thanks for the time.

694
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:39,319
Speaker 2: Will since then that's good fires Pats top Oh my goodness,

695
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:47,119
long with a Cat quick Gram. Now it's your weekly

696
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,920
goalie talk. But Kat Silverman, Kat's instincts.

697
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: And once again for Kat's Instincts with Kat Silverman a

698
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:56,440
ENGLD Mag. We're talking La King's goalies and we're gonna

699
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,000
start with Carter George. Carter George. Actually this system is

700
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,680
fun because we have two goalies who played against each

701
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,839
other at the U twenty World Junior Championships. So we'll

702
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,279
start with the Canadian Carter George sixty one ninety pounds

703
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,200
drafted second round back in twenty twenty four, he had

704
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,519
another successful season for the n Sound Attack of the OHL.

705
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,039
He also was really good, probably arguably the best player

706
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,640
for Canada at the U twenty World Junior Championships. So

707
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,440
a lot of the skaters weren't great, certainly a lot

708
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,119
of the scorers at a hard time scoring, but he

709
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,640
was great. Nine to thirty six eight percentage one point

710
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,440
seven six JA in the four games he played. That

711
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:36,680
should win you more than two games, but he only

712
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,880
was able to win two. Looking at his equivalency, he

713
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:41,599
was able to bump it up just a little bit

714
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,079
of to thirty two percent. He doesn't have the best comps. Unfortunately,

715
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,319
there is a John Gibson comp but John Gibson's equivalency

716
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,720
were insanely low for the talent that he had and

717
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,160
eventually produced. So the more likely comp is Scott Darling,

718
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:58,839
and he was backup and not super irrelevant in the

719
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,839
league for a long time. What do your instincts tell

720
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,880
us about Carter George?

721
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 5: I think so we've talked about a lot of prospect

722
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,279
goaltenders by the time we hit the King system, and

723
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,519
a lot of the goaltenders that we've talked about who

724
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:17,839
have a good technical foundation, we watch them play and

725
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,000
we say, oh, they understand how to hit their marks,

726
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:27,000
they understand in theory how to track, but their actual

727
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:31,799
decision making skills are still lacking a little bit, and

728
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,160
their ability to determine when they need to throw their

729
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,119
technique out the window isn't quite there yet. Or we

730
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,880
see guys who throw their technique out the window because

731
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,519
they don't like technique. And I think that Carter George

732
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:52,279
has really good technique but does not like technique, And

733
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,799
I think that's going to be a really interesting player

734
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,440
to follow because he does like to get a little wild,

735
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,039
but you can tell that he has you can tell

736
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:05,039
that he's a product of the Hockey Canada system where

737
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:09,079
he's had some really strict technical foundation just hammered into

738
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:14,199
his game that he really doesn't seem to enjoy. He

739
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,039
I know that Scott Darling is the comp that they gave,

740
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,360
but a different Coyotes goaltender is one that I think

741
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,159
he instinctively wants to play, and that is Mike Smith.

742
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:29,480
He seems like he in another life, really would have

743
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:35,360
liked to play as a defender who enjoys leading the breakout,

744
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:39,559
and that's a really interesting type of goaltender to watch,

745
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:44,639
especially among prospects. We will see what that looks like

746
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:48,280
as he ages and matures, because he is still pretty young.

747
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:52,400
He won't turn twenty until May of this upcoming year,

748
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:58,159
which once again makes me feel extremely old. But it's

749
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,360
going to be fun to see what he does with

750
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:05,639
his game, and it'll be fun to see what path

751
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,800
he decides to take, because there are some goaltenders who

752
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,920
follow more of the exciting path, like I'm Matt so Guard,

753
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:16,920
for example, and then there are some who like to

754
00:35:17,039 --> 00:35:21,960
follow that exciting path but end up becoming a little

755
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,679
bit more controlled, and that I think his upside could

756
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,039
be as far as other young goaltenders, that we would

757
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,800
see him become a parallel to, almost more of a

758
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,800
Drew Comesso. And so that's not a bad name for

759
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,199
Kings fans to have linked to a prospect in their system.

760
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,519
So we'll see what he does. I don't think we're

761
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:47,559
going to be seeing him there anytime soon, but I

762
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:50,679
don't think the Kings need him right now, so that's okay.

763
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:54,239
And he has a really cool name, so win win.

764
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,679
Speaker 4: He sure does although I don't know it's as cool

765
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,760
as Hampton Slakinski. That's that's a pretty rad name. So

766
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,280
he's the next guy we're going to talk about. And

767
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,679
he was on the American side, the winning side at

768
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,480
the World Junior Championships, although to be fair, he didn't

769
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,199
play the big of a role, but he did get

770
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,920
in two games and was awesome, I think against a

771
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,559
couple of the weaker opponents. But what is season Hampton had,

772
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,239
my goodness. So he's six one hundred and ninety pounds.

773
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,960
He was drafted back in the fourth round in twenty

774
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:26,800
twenty three, and he after a strong USHL season last season,

775
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:30,960
he was went to Western Michigan and for those of

776
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:34,559
you who haven't followed along, Western Michigan had quite the season,

777
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,239
winning their conference, winning the NCAA championship, and he was

778
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,199
just incredible with a one point nine to ZEROJA and

779
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:48,199
nine to twenty two stave percentage and really fantastic program

780
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,280
defining championship for that organization in that program. So that's

781
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,960
pretty fantastic to see his equivalence. He's pretty low though,

782
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,480
because the previous two seasons he started out in high school.

783
00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:00,679
That's where he was drafted out of and then he

784
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,199
went to the USHL and the equivalence he was low there.

785
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,320
So he's slowly bumping that up. But right now he

786
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,159
doesn't have too many great comps. But one of the

787
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,920
ones that he does have is Jordan Bennington, who you

788
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,920
know would be a pretty stellar outcome for the La Kings,

789
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,679
although I don't know no word on whether he has

790
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,880
the same attitude as Bennington. But Kat tell us about Slakinski, I.

791
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,199
Speaker 5: Putting aside the fact that his name sounds like it

792
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,719
was created in one of those AI name generators for

793
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,199
a hockey player, Like I've never heard a more created

794
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,719
to be a hockey player name in my life. He's

795
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,440
a fascinating one because he and like how we used

796
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,719
to talk about the difference between Drew Camesso and Spencer

797
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,840
Knight is I know that they don't play on the

798
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:57,079
same national team, but they will be in the same system.

799
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,679
That's how I look at Carter George and Hampton Slikinski

800
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,320
and I pronounced his last name correctly, Is it Slukinski?

801
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,599
Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah?

802
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 5: I love that. What an elite to your name. He

803
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,840
first off, it's great seeing a kid who stuck with

804
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,239
playing high school hockey all the way through. I think

805
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,920
that's one of the best things that can happen for

806
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:21,199
a kid. And he did a really good job of

807
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:27,760
maintaining his enthusiasm levels when it comes to the energy

808
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,039
he brings to the net, I think his technique is

809
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:35,440
a work in progress. So he's like I said, he

810
00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:39,440
and Carter George really are two sides of the same

811
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:46,320
coin essentially, where Slukinski has a lot of really good

812
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,239
instinct but his technique really looks like a work in progress,

813
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:55,039
and Carter George looks like he has had technique Cameron

814
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,639
into him since he was seven and really wants to

815
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,440
break free and just have fun with it. So it'll

816
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,400
be interesting to see how the Kings work with that,

817
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,960
you know, how they play them off each other. They

818
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:11,159
could potentially, I know it's a little bit more rare

819
00:39:11,199 --> 00:39:15,119
at this point to see two prospect goaltenders get drafted,

820
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,559
brought up through a system together and then end up

821
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:19,880
playing as a tandem. But it would be cool they

822
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,559
both play in a way that I think would be

823
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:26,360
complementary of one another without being carbon copies of one another.

824
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,960
But we do need to see a little bit more

825
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:34,519
technical precision added to Slikinski's game before he goes up

826
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:39,639
against elite NHL shooters, because right now he looks like

827
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,360
he truly needs just a little bit more refinement there.

828
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:46,519
He does have a lot of raw talent, though, I

829
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:50,559
would say far more than the last high school hockey

830
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,280
product that we saw get drafted, which I believe was

831
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,400
Dominic Bass, who at that point I looked at and

832
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,360
thought he very clearly was not ready. I think Swilkinski

833
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,480
looks far more ready at this point. So well, we'll

834
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,320
see what goes for him. I think we're probably four

835
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,719
to six years out on him. I think he's probably

836
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,400
going to be an older goaltender when he makes his

837
00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:19,000
debut as a regular NHL goaltender, but I think he's

838
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:21,480
got the tools there, which is nice.

839
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:24,199
Speaker 4: If you had to bet on one of these guys,

840
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,360
who do you think is the starter in three or

841
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:27,840
four years?

842
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 5: Probably Carter George, I do agree.

843
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 4: I like that. Like you said, they have two different styles,

844
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,079
and we've seen that a little bit. I know we

845
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:37,559
talked about that with Detroit. That's nice when you have

846
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,159
competing styles and you can just see who takes the

847
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,559
reins and runs with it. At the right time, so

848
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,519
it's nice to have that option for the Kings. Fantastic.

849
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:48,159
Thanks so much for giving us your instincts on the

850
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,440
Los Angeles Kings goalies.

851
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: Of course, we'll be back right after this.

852
00:41:03,559 --> 00:41:05,519
Speaker 3: Dig the.

853
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: Dig LA Kings Edition, Victor. The Kings are your number

854
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,679
twenty seven ranked system and they start with your no brainer.

855
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,079
Speaker 3: Who's that?

856
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 4: That would be Liam green Tree. Green Tree was drafted

857
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,679
in twenty twenty four to twenty sixth overall. He's sixty three,

858
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,480
two hundred and sixteen pounds. He's a left shot right

859
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:33,960
wing and he was drafted out of the OHL and

860
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,920
he had a pretty good season last season, ninety points

861
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,400
in sixty four games. This season he upped that to

862
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:41,920
one hundred and fourteen point or so one hundred nineteen

863
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,039
points in sixty four games, just shy of that fifty

864
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:48,320
goal mark, which is pretty impressive. Twenty four points and

865
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,840
eleven playoff games for the Winsor Spitfires, and he's been

866
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
their captain in the last two years. All that's looking

867
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:55,920
pretty great. He also was at the He was at

868
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,559
the UA teens last year. He wasn't on the U

869
00:41:57,639 --> 00:42:01,559
twenty World junior team, so he has represent Canada internationally

870
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:05,840
a bit and looking at some of the microstats from

871
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,159
Mitch Brown, the overall score for green Tree is thirty

872
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,960
nine sixty nine. The offense is seventy one, transitions sixty four,

873
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:16,719
defense sixty two, so overall pretty solid. There's a couple

874
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,400
of places where he's not as good, and the physicality

875
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,199
is won, he's only thirty fifth percentile for that. His pace,

876
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:26,519
which is definitely an issue for him, is forty six percentile,

877
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:29,679
but the shooting is seventy ninth and some of the

878
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,079
translability is pretty high as well. One of his best

879
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,840
attributes are his expected goals. He's pretty even though with

880
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,519
his expected goals and expected primary assists, so that's nice.

881
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:44,119
A lot of his transition data is pretty decent, and

882
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,480
some of the expected goal build up and off puck

883
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:51,320
play is very mixed for green Tree, I would say

884
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:54,679
looking at his FHL player card, I have him at

885
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:57,719
at seven point two too, the twenty two percent chance

886
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960
of being a seven, which is a well above average.

887
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:04,920
His shots are really high in the OHL one hundred percentile,

888
00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:09,920
it hits our fortieth and blocks are thirtieth percentile, so

889
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:12,159
the hits and blocks are pretty low, but overall, the

890
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,800
bash probably won't be too bad because of the strong hits.

891
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:17,840
He also takes a fair amount of pims if you're

892
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,639
into that kind of thing, which show up as negative

893
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:23,079
and our metric. He also has some pretty strong play

894
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:27,400
driving metrics, so that's good to see. But let's hear

895
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:30,400
what else is interesting about Liam green Tree From our

896
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,679
FHL scout Jesse.

897
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: Fahl scout Patrick has this to say about Liam green Tree.

898
00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:42,280
Average skater. Sometimes it looks a little awkward and is

899
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,840
a little snow from the standstill, but he has a

900
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,039
decent stride and the lateral movement is a plus. It

901
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:51,320
shows signs of improvement and at times the pace is lacking.

902
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,159
Passinger and handling well above average in both categories. Able

903
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:58,360
to hold possession of the puck for the right pass,

904
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:01,519
make quick and accurate pass is when needed, and use

905
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,719
the threat of a shot along with deception to feed

906
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,000
teammates in a good position for a further pass or shot.

907
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,199
For shooting very good. Has a positive risk shot, including

908
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,519
an accurate backhand, and has improved his one timer to

909
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:19,440
be a legitimate weapon. Able to delay for a better

910
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,840
shot or release quickly as needed. IQ There are some

911
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:28,079
areas green Tree can improve on. One is his IQ. Overall,

912
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:33,159
it's above average, though his playmaking, positioning, and shooting demonstrate

913
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,599
positive in that category. He sees the play well when

914
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,480
making passes and being in position for breakouts and receiving

915
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:44,159
passes for shots. For checking, green Tree has some size

916
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:47,360
but doesn't always use it, more of a playmaker facilitating

917
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,039
play rather than checking along the board, but he shows

918
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,960
the ability to develop this further. Green tree skating hinders

919
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,320
him a little in regards to defense as well. Overall,

920
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:00,519
he shows a commitment to compete, so so it seems

921
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:03,320
like there's a good chance he'll improve in this area.

922
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,000
So the best asset the passing and handling. The biggest

923
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:10,760
concern the skating, although it's improving. The top tier outcome

924
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,079
could be a top six winger, possibly a high end

925
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:15,800
second liner a low end first liner in power play one,

926
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,039
and that's because his skating is somewhat lacking, but improving

927
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,280
the rest of his tool kit is slightly above average

928
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,119
together could get him up to the role discussed the

929
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,159
meeting outcome maybe more of a middle six winger. It's

930
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:32,840
the second power play. That's because the shot playmaking and

931
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,400
vision are going to create that baseline of skill that

932
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:38,280
likely translates at least to the Middlesex. But if the

933
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,039
skating doesn't improve, the defense will limit the further upside.

934
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:46,360
Stylistic comparable well in terms of style of game, Matt

935
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,320
Boldy Jason Robertson are comparables Patrick has cited, although maybe

936
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,880
not quite as good as those two. And the NHL

937
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,400
rank King Mason Black puts Liam Greentree up against il

938
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,440
Ya protas Ilia protas Is. He went it solid here,

939
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:07,039
victory seventy five to twenty five percent. Is that how

940
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:07,719
you rank them?

941
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I like Protasts a lot more. He's definitely

942
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,920
one of these guys whose stock has really risen. It's

943
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,559
funny how he and his brother broke out at the

944
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:21,159
same time in different leagues. And protass is really young

945
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,559
for his draft year. In fact, the day we're recording

946
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:27,440
this is the day before his birthday. He was eighteen

947
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:30,239
for this entire D plus one year. He was seventeen

948
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,639
for his entire D minus one year, and it was

949
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,000
a big jump from USHL to OHL and he just

950
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,119
absolutely killed it. One hundred and twenty four points in

951
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:41,079
sixty one games. And because he started in the USHL.

952
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,639
He can go to the AHL next year, and it

953
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,199
looks like he was he went through them. I'm not

954
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,960
sure where he's gonna end up playing next year, but

955
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,519
he still has got a little bit of development to go.

956
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,800
But I really like the upside with Protass, so I'd

957
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,800
be taking him. He's big, he's a little bit more mobile,

958
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,239
and we've seen the production really ascend as opposed to

959
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:07,920
what it has with green Tree, which it's been good,

960
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,519
but I just like the progression from Protash a little

961
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:12,519
bit more. If you look at the pnhle between the two,

962
00:47:12,639 --> 00:47:15,679
it's somewhat similar, but Protests is approaching one hundred and

963
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:19,199
green Tree is just above eighty and I have my

964
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,880
puck started rating for Protest is seven point four to five.

965
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,199
If you look at the hockey prospecting between the two,

966
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,639
green Tree has been stable at twenty four percent chance

967
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,159
of being a star, but Protest was really low in

968
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,360
his Draft minus one and draft season, and that's why

969
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,199
it started off low. But he went from three to

970
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,480
fifteen percent chance being a star, so that's a big

971
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:40,480
uptick and he can probably continue to increase that. Looking

972
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:43,920
at the FHL player card for Protests, you can see

973
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,199
that he actually doesn't really hit a lot, but he

974
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,440
blocks a lot, so his bash is projected to be

975
00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:52,039
a lot better. And so that's another factor here. Looking

976
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,719
at some other comps for green Tree, there's some Bobby Ryan,

977
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,079
some Shane Ryan or Timmy Panera, and I think Bobby

978
00:47:57,159 --> 00:48:00,159
Ryan's probably a reasonable comp. You know, someone who has

979
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,920
pretty strong production but is not a total star, but

980
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,880
a fringe star, and that I could see that working

981
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,679
out for green Tree. Jesse, looking at the top Town

982
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,039
Hockey model, green Tree has thirty six percent chance of

983
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:16,519
being a star, ninety four percent chance of being in NHLer.

984
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:21,199
So that's pretty nice as well, and very optimistic from

985
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:22,119
j Fresh.

986
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: Very good victor. Who is your need to know prospect?

987
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 4: The need to know prospect is Cohen Zeemer. He is

988
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:34,800
a twenty twenty three third round pick, seventy eighth overall

989
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,159
by the King sixty one, two hundred and sixteen pounds.

990
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,440
He was playing in the WHL and he's been there

991
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:44,039
the last several seasons. He's been with Prince George the

992
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:48,880
whole time. In his draft season, he was already over

993
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,559
a point per game. He lost a lot of time

994
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,440
injury in twenty three twenty four. Played a little bit

995
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,000
more this past season and progressed in terms of his

996
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,920
point metrics seventy one points in sixty one games. Not

997
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,840
sure how much that's injury related. He did get into

998
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,480
a couple games with the Ontario Rain didn't have any

999
00:49:04,519 --> 00:49:08,199
points though. Looking at midst Browns tracking data, the real

1000
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,679
issue with Zeemer is his off puck play. He is

1001
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,039
defensive metrics are pretty poor. He doesn't have a whole

1002
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,760
lot of boards to the middle or board battles one.

1003
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:22,039
The offensive retrievals and defensive play controlled exits all pretty poor.

1004
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,119
The other interesting thing that's really poor with Zeemer is

1005
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:29,039
the expected goals per sixty so that's not ideal. He

1006
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:32,280
does have a really strong expected primary assist rate, so

1007
00:49:32,639 --> 00:49:35,679
that's good to know, but some of the other offensive

1008
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,440
metrics aren't as good as you would like for a

1009
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:39,440
top prospect, so that makes you a little bit worried.

1010
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,679
The transition game overall, including the entries and transition success

1011
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,000
is really high eighty third percent tile and the offense,

1012
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:50,320
based mostly on the playmaking is at seventy fourth percentile.

1013
00:49:51,159 --> 00:49:53,199
Looking at the FHL player card for Zeemer, I have

1014
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,000
him at a five point five to one, so just

1015
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:00,159
over a fifteen percent chance of being a five. Just

1016
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,199
over that threshold. He does actually hit a lot. That's

1017
00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:06,079
something good about Zeemer. He's ninetieth percent out for hits

1018
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:09,639
and actually sixtieth for blocks and shoots a ton, so

1019
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,639
if all works out, Zeemer could be a strong basher.

1020
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,840
He also it takes a lot of penalty, so that's

1021
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,119
good if you like that sort of thing. He did

1022
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:22,079
struggle a little bit with some play driving though, But

1023
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:25,079
let's hear a little bit else about coin Zeemer. From

1024
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:26,360
our FATEL scout, Jesse.

1025
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,119
Speaker 2: If Ahl scout Grant has this to say. The skating

1026
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,000
is slightly below average. He's a north south skater who

1027
00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:36,119
lacks agility, strong on his feet with good balance. He's

1028
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:38,119
going to need to improve in this area at the

1029
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,599
AHL and NHL levels. Passing and handling an average passer,

1030
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:44,960
and while he does possess pretty good hands in tight

1031
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,559
he's going to need to improve his pass taking abilities

1032
00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:50,960
at speed. He'll need to process the game much more

1033
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:55,000
quickly at THEHL NHL levels, which will be a test

1034
00:50:55,079 --> 00:50:58,159
for his current skill level. Shooting nice quick snap and

1035
00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:01,639
wrist shot that seems heavy at the WHL level, but

1036
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,639
might not be at higher ones. IQ clearly nervous playing

1037
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:08,039
his first few games at the AHL level, but you're

1038
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:11,360
in the headlights at times. For the first viewings there,

1039
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:15,440
showed some flashes of offensive vision, exhibited very little anticipation.

1040
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,599
At the WHL. He played with confidence and the puck

1041
00:51:18,679 --> 00:51:21,440
seems to follow him. Didn't hurt to play with Riley height.

1042
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,119
He knows his limitations with the puck in his own

1043
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,440
end and gets the puck out when he can. For checking,

1044
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,400
Grant says that Ziemer should have this as his bread

1045
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,679
and butter. He's strong on his feet, good size skating

1046
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,920
holds us back a little bit to get on the

1047
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,960
fore check in the AHL. He's gonna need to really

1048
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,159
work on this aspect of his game, as this is

1049
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:47,119
what will get him to the NHL. For defense, he's

1050
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,400
fairly responsible defensively with the puck, but he lacks some

1051
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,920
awareness without the puck in his own end. Like a

1052
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,199
lot of young players, he has a habit, bad habit

1053
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,239
of holding his stick with one hand for most of

1054
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,280
the time at his own end, forgets to move his

1055
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,239
feed at times, can be quite static. Not a shot

1056
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,239
blocker at this point. The shot is probably the best

1057
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,639
asset then, with potential of being a physical player who

1058
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,199
combines that with scoring as his biggest appeal. Biggest concern.

1059
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,519
He appears to put all of his eggs in the

1060
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,400
offensive only basket so far, which is unlikely to get

1061
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,840
him past the AHL. So Zeemer is going to have

1062
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,119
to drill down on his physical play and become a

1063
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:26,400
defensive stalwart who regularly sacrifices his body to make the NHL.

1064
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,960
He's not close right now. The top tier outcome then,

1065
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,119
Grant says, bottom six forward chips in twelve to fifteen

1066
00:52:34,199 --> 00:52:37,880
goals and one hundred plus hits justification. Bit of an

1067
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,440
act for scoring, but he's got the physical tools anyway

1068
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,960
to play this role. The median outcome AHL player twenty

1069
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,440
to twenty five goals in the top six at the

1070
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:50,719
A do you even get in this tier? He's going

1071
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,920
to need to elevate his game. A bit of development

1072
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,239
ahead of him in the next year or two. Stylistic

1073
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:01,639
comparable bits of bits of Brockbesser and Keegan Kolasar would

1074
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:04,320
be the ultimate combost style in the NHL if he

1075
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,320
could put it all together. Zeemer is just twenty years

1076
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,800
old with three games, the of AHL experience after one

1077
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,920
hundred and twenty eight goals in two hundred and forty

1078
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,440
four WHL games, so Grand Overall says the AHL is

1079
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,360
going to be a tough challenge for him, as he

1080
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,559
lacks the skating and skill set to do well there

1081
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:22,760
in the short term. If he's got any success, it's

1082
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,400
going to be two to three years, and he's going

1083
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,159
to need to revamp his game to include defense and

1084
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,360
more physicality. Our friend, the Ultimate Stanley Lord Stanley Tidy Champ,

1085
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,840
the NHL rank King Mason Black put out the poll

1086
00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:39,400
Gohen Zeemer versus Ahmedis Lombardi, and Ziemer wins that one

1087
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,840
pretty handily over the red Wing Lombardi and he wins

1088
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,119
it sixty five to thirty five.

1089
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: What do you think of that?

1090
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 4: I don't know that I love it. I totally agree

1091
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,920
with what Grant was saying, and I do think that

1092
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:57,360
green Tree has a lot of Zeemer has a lot

1093
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,199
to do with a lot of work to do with

1094
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,519
his two way game is defensive game to make it,

1095
00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:07,199
and right now he hasn't really had a chance to

1096
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,199
work at that at the AHL level. What I like

1097
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,000
about Lombardi is that He's already had two seasons in

1098
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,920
the EHL, and this past one he increases point scoring

1099
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:17,719
up to nearly point per game in the AHL, which

1100
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,239
is pretty fantastic. He is twenty two, so he's a

1101
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,440
bit older now, but it's been a really good progression

1102
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:26,519
for him, and so I think I would take Lombardi.

1103
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:30,239
Actually can definitely see a situation where Cohen Ziemer just

1104
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,519
stalls out and ends up being a tweiner, a guy

1105
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:34,840
whose offense isn't quite good enough to translate and the

1106
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,000
defense has never really been there, and he doesn't flesh

1107
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:41,880
that out enough. Of course, if he does become more offensive,

1108
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,480
then better defensively than that offense can maybe shine. But

1109
00:54:45,679 --> 00:54:50,480
there's always also been concerns about Zeemer's attachment to Riley

1110
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:54,400
height and whether that's going to continue or how much

1111
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,559
that's going to how much that has played into what

1112
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,239
he's been able to do is also something to consider.

1113
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:04,360
So I think that would take Lombardi, even though it

1114
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,360
may seem like a strange choice, but sometimes you just

1115
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,960
have to realize that there's still a lot of work

1116
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,039
to be done, and I'm not sure that Zemer can

1117
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,679
get all the way there. Looking at the hockey. Looking

1118
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,800
at the PNHIL between these two, Lombardi has actually raised

1119
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,920
his PNHILI up to just over sixty and Zeemer has

1120
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,599
trended down to a point of forty five. So that's

1121
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,840
not that exciting. And looking at the hockey prospecting, will

1122
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,199
Zemer start at forty two percent chance of being a star,

1123
00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,599
He's trended down to twelve percent and gone down every year.

1124
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,280
Lombardy has been zero percent in this model, and that's

1125
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,079
partly because his development started when he was in the

1126
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,159
in the OJHL and leagues that don't necessarily have the

1127
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:52,000
strongest equivalency. And then once he did finally get into

1128
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,599
the OA, he had COVID year for his first OHL year,

1129
00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:57,960
which was shut down. So some of these numbers just

1130
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,039
don't really make sense. But if you look at but

1131
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:01,719
he's done recently, that I think it gives you a

1132
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,679
better indication of what is going on with him.

1133
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:05,559
Speaker 3: I don't have that much.

1134
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: I don't My ranking for a Lombardi doesn't look that

1135
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:11,280
great four point twenty five, but I think if you

1136
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,719
look at what he's done in the AHL, I think

1137
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,400
there's a little bit more promise there. Looking at some

1138
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,239
other comps, for Coen Zeemer, just for Bokefist is maybe

1139
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,719
a reasonable one. He had a similar trend. There's some

1140
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,920
other guys who might be reasonable comps, but I think

1141
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,079
Bocus makes a lot of sense. And looking at the

1142
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,639
top down hockey model, Cohen Zeemer has nine percent chance

1143
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,440
of being a star and thirty six percent chance of

1144
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,480
being an NHL or so definitely a little bit more

1145
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:39,440
pessimistic there.

1146
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:44,679
Speaker 2: Jesse very good. And who is your keep your eye

1147
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,679
on prospect?

1148
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 4: This is definitely one that people probably haven't heard too

1149
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:50,360
much of and you need to keep your eye on.

1150
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: That's Ryan con Me.

1151
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,119
Speaker 4: He is a twenty twenty three six round pick by LA.

1152
00:56:56,199 --> 00:57:00,119
He's five ten and ninety pounds and he's somewhat one

1153
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,639
who He was drafted out of the USHL and had

1154
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,840
a decent season. Then he went to New Hampshire of

1155
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,800
the NCAA and had a pretty monster production right off

1156
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,400
the bat thirty one points in thirty four games. New

1157
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,559
Hampshire not known as the biggest, big scoring type of

1158
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,840
programer one of the elite programs, and he followed that

1159
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,639
up this past year with another near point per game

1160
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,920
thirty three points in thirty four games. Pretty awesome stuff.

1161
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,079
He's actually transferring to BC next years, scoring my increase

1162
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:30,880
even more. Of course, they have a lot more skill

1163
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:32,840
there and a lot more guys that might push him

1164
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,119
down the lineup a little bit, but pretty awesome stuff.

1165
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:39,840
Looking at the Fantasy Hockey Life Player card, I have

1166
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,599
him at a five point four to four, so just

1167
00:57:41,719 --> 00:57:44,440
under that fifty percent threshold. But I think there's a

1168
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,119
pretty good chance he could be an average roster player

1169
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:50,280
for you, and that's'd be a great outcome for someone

1170
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,559
taking in the sixth round. Looking at some of his bash,

1171
00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:56,440
it's one hundred percentile for shots, fiftieth for hits, and

1172
00:57:56,559 --> 00:58:00,320
thirtieth per block, so his bash should be good at

1173
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,199
least above average, and he doesn't take that many penalties,

1174
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,239
and some of his other play driving metrics are pretty solid.

1175
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,119
But let's hear a little bit more about Ryan Commy

1176
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:10,440
from my RETEL scout.

1177
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 2: And FHL scout. Tony lead scout has this to say.

1178
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,400
Ryan is a very good skater, good speed and agility,

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good passer and puck handler. Uses these abilities to get

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around defenders for shooting. This is also a plus position

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for Ryan Kamy to do rist shots to slap one

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timer's great hockey IQ and vision, able to get around

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defenders for a shot or past the teammates for checking.

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Tony did see some for checking from Kmy and on

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defense seem to play defense trying to get the puck,

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but not noticeable in the defensive zone. So the best asset,

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according to Tony, would be the accurate shooting, but the

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biggest concern a lack of size and physicality. The top

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tier outcome here could be a tier two middle six

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little power play time. That's because his shooting and playmaking

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ability would support it. He's not a play driver, but

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a good play maker and the median outcome bottom six

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type player doesn't have bash, a little bit of defense

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lacking for him the stylistic comparable. Overall, he looks at

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alex to Brinkett as a comparison and overall thinks Ryan

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could reach the upper levels that top outcome tier two

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with a little more bash and a little better defensive effort.

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Mason Black put out the poll Ryan Conny against recent

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Islanders prospect discussing Quinn, Finley, and Quinn comes out seventy

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eight to seventy nine to twenty one percent ahead of

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Ryan Conne Victor Quinn Finley in the route do you

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see it?

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Speaker 4: I could see why people would say that if you're

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just looking at the PNHL E Quinn Finley's as much

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higher or it's trended up more. He went all the

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way to sixty, which is actually Conny is just a

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little bit that. But I think that there he had

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just overpoint per game, So I guess if you're just

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looking at those raw numbers, it was a little bit

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higher than con me His numbers have. Actually, Quinn Finley's

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numbers have been a little bit up and down because

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he was in the USHL for a few years and

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in his first n CUAA season he was less than

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half point per game, and then he shot up to

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over point per game. I think I'm going to take

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conmy here because he's shown two back to back seasons

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of consistent near point per game production. So I like

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that a little bit more, a little bit more consistency,

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less variability, and actually the comps are much better for

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Konne matthew NY's is one Matt Calvert, whereas for Quinn

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Finley it's like Joel Snively and Vinnie Hennistroza. So I'll

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take the Konmedy side here looking at the Hockey prospecting

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between the two, it's actually better, a little bit better

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for Conmy too, but because of some of his Draft

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minus one production, he only looks like five percent chance

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of being a star in the model and Quinley's zero

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or Quinn Finley sorry, is at zero. Looking at the

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Hockey Prospect team player card, guy Finley at five point

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five to five, so a little bit more than con Me,

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But looking at this again, I think I would still

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prefer con Me in this comparison. The other comps for

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con Me, there's some there's these are difficult, not too

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many that are clear, but I think one that kind

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of makes sense Shane Pinto. Maybe he could have that

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outcome that would be pretty awesome. And there's a bunch

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of other guys that are like Josh Archibald who's not

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super exciting. And then looking at the Jfresh model four

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percent chance of being a star and twelve percent chance

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of being an NHL or as usual, little bit more

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pessimistic from j Fresh.

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Speaker 3: Jesse. That's it for the Kings dig.

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Speaker 4: If you're a patroon, you can listen to my top

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ten Prospects recap per team on Patreon, which I've already started,

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and Jesse has promised he's going to collate into one big,

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unified episode And if you're interested in doing any scouting

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with us, shoot me a DM on Twitter, Discord, or

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email us.

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Speaker 2: That's right, somehow I'm gonna get that done. We'll be

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right back to close out of the show.

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Speaker 3: Before we leave.

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Speaker 2: Fantracks dot com. Play your fantasy sports there. I got

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can do it. Want college players in there?

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, put your college.

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Speaker 2: Players in there. You can set up pretty much anything

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going on. But fantracks dot com you can play free.

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You can get the super bells and whistles with a

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little bit of money put in, but you should enjoy

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it if you're a fantasy fan. Fan Tracks HQ has

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also got fantasy content articles on fantasy hockey and the

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other sports FHL. We are a team here at our podcast,

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tim a Orian, Simo Kraftzer. They are the commissioner team

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for the Tidy Leagues. Tony and Patrick are lead scouts. Mike,

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Stephen and Matt are helping a ton putting together these

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show sheets for the summer. Brandon helps with a website,

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prospect ranks and visualizations. If you have skills you'd like

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to lend the show, hit Victor up on Discord email,

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social media. You'll see on social media, Victor's been sharing

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some mockups of our new Fantasy Hockey light player cards

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to see if what you folks think about the revisions.

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So do all those things. We're also brought to you

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by Daber Hockey and Dauber Prospects. Victor does some work

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there which you may follow. I do a solo show

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called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk about many different Dynasty sports.

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The one that came out yesterday as I broadcast this

1279
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was about baseball prospects and friend of mine who goes

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and sees a lot of baseball prospects kind of does something,

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you know, the sort of thing that we like to

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talk about because he's also focused on fantasy. So if

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you like that, go have a listen. Social media. You

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the One Victor. I'll let you guess which belongs to whom.

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