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Into the Fray. I welcome Scott on with me, and

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we are talking about Bigfoot today. However, this is a

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little bit different side to the Bigfoot subject, which I

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am extremely interested in. I only have kind of the

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bullet points of some different theories and things that maybe

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you've come across as far as where this might take us, right, Scott,

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So what we're talking about today is the urban Bigfoot, and.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, it's such a it's a unique facet because

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like when you think Bigfoot, what do you think the

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Patterson Gimlin film, you know, deep in the woods, middle

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of nowhere, isolation, And then when you switch over to

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the urban aspect, it's like, wait a minute, are these

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things literally everywhere?

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Speaker 4: And that's where it starts to dive into.

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Speaker 3: A how how are they in the urban area, How

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are they you know, in the city, How are they

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getting the burgers out of the dumpster behind the McDonald's.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's like, how is all this stuff happening?

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How do they get here?

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Speaker 3: And that's where all my nerddom of time travel and

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how intergalactic things work and all that kind of stuff

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comes into play. So like when you think Bigfoot interdimensional,

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what do you think, Like, Okay, they're coming from ten

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Speaker 2: Away, right, yeah, you're thinking that the classic they they're

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on the UFOs, they come to Earth to mind for

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the gold kind of a theory that.

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Speaker 3: I've heard before exactly, but now with the way I

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look at it's more kind of like a like the

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string theory. Maybe reality and dimensions are layered more like

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like a shoe cabinet, so you know, like door one,

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drive down at a door too, that sasquatch peeking into

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our reality.

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Speaker 4: So it's more of a linear adjacent reality versus Okay,

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these there's no way they just traveled from the stars

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ten thousand miles away. They're just walking from one cabinet

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door into another. So that's why I think they're here,

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and they have the ability to zip out because they

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can just basically they know the secret to tapping through

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the trap doors of our realities into theirs.

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Speaker 2: So, Scott, how urban are we talking? What's the most urban,

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densely populated, metropolitan urban bigfoot encounter that you've come across

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Speaker 3: The one that I've come across is literally right here

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Speaker 2: How many people are in Monroe?

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it's growing, it's not too big, but it's very urban.

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directory of walmarts and stuff are but there's still a

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lot of farmland in the area. So it's kind of

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I'm like, oh, he's so cute, and they're like, well

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his name is Sarah, So thank you exactly. I don't

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what was what was the Bigfoot doing.

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rural farmland. So even though you have like the city

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designated walking paths, there's still property lines for farmers and

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stuff where it's just tons and tons of woods. We

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have found tracks zipping off into nowhere. I've had sticks

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thrown at me. We've had them cross the path in

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it's insane out there. And I don't know why my

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area is so expansive. I mean, there's a lot of

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layered phenomena out there. The bloodiest battle of the War

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of eighteen twelve took place here, so we have a

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lot of spirit activity, we have a lot of bloodshed,

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just where the highest strangeness tends to flock to, and

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where there's weird, there'd be bigfoot. So naturally we've had

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portals out there. Coming out of the portals, I have

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the video. I will send you that video I'm sure

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you would love to see that. And there's just this

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massive glowing ball with sasquash like beings walking right.

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Speaker 4: Out of it.

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Speaker 3: It's a forty seven second video. I'll send it right

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to you. Feel free to do whatever you want with it.

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Speaker 2: You probably know this about me, but I tend to

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always compare things to a movie scene. So let's do

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that right now. So I'm just thinking of the scene

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in Poltergeist where at the at the top or the

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bottom of the stairs when they she can see all

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of these well, they are all peep. Of course they

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were not Bigfoot and alien beings or whatever else is

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in this portal, But is that kind of what this

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footage looks like.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like when I first looked in because as

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a debunk I've researched Bigfoot for about thirty years. Like

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experience that's different than the rabbit hole just expands even further.

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were losing my train of thought a little bit, I'm sorry.

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it had to be a bit rough.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I'm sorry, I'm already taking you on about

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ten tangents. I apologize, You're fine.

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Speaker 4: That's what we do. It's that the neurodivergence strikes again.

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Speaker 2: Yes it does.

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Speaker 4: It does.

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Speaker 3: But when we're looking at this portal, it's like, you

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look at it and it looks like a glowing ball.

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what it's not first, that's the logical choice and explanation.

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into this giant orb. I would say in person this

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thing was probably twenty feet across. It would have had

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to have been, because we were a good eight hundred

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meters away filming on full zoom with our cell phones.

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Speaker 4: This wasn't even part of the plan.

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Speaker 3: We were just walking out there and I'm like, all right,

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let's do our usual hike where we get shit to happen.

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like Okay, dude, we're not going to get too close

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because I don't know what this is, but we're gonna

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get close enough to be able to identify what it

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could be, you know. And I'm like, there's this massive

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glowing ball of white light with crap coming out of it,

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and you literally see these things, like if you're looking

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at it, it would be their left the left of

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the sasquatch just jumping into the tree line to the left.

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Speaker 4: Of where this port was.

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Speaker 3: M Wow, its like they're just swinging by to have

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some fun for a little bit or whatever on the

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way to wherever they were going. And there's tree breaks

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out there to this day that would roughly be in

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the location where that portal was. That I think would

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be indicative of them jumping into the trees. I think

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sometimes our tree breaks are just the sasquatch is too eavy.

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sasquatch and sometimes the tree snaps. That's why you get

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think there's just too much weight and they snap them over.

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there was probably forty or fifty things coming out of this.

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And I'm Shannon, I'm not lying. I will still look

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at that video probably like once every couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: So and you know, I always ask if somebody brings

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up a picture or video, is that just for me

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to see or is that something I can cut in

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so that everyone can see what's the situation?

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Speaker 4: Sure, feel creat to share it with everybody. Excellent, I'm

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all for everybody seeing this stuff for sure.

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Speaker 2: Excellent. I will make sure to cut that animal time

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mark this that everyone can see that. Thank you so much, Scott. Okay,

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not always ground level. Sometimes it's a higher and then

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they're piling out of this portal I don't know the

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right terminology, and trying to grab on to whatever's around.

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Speaker 3: It's like, if I had you explain it, picture a

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bus full of kids that just want to you have

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to let the energy out, so we stop the bus

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and let them go play at the park for a while.

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just swinging by coming out of a portal to play

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in the woods for a bit before it goes back

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to whatever dimension or area that it wants to go to.

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Speaker 2: Is that the first time you've seen something like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's still to this day.

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Speaker 3: Portals that changed my theory on Bigfoot being interdimensional. A

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lot of people think Bigfoot's just flesh and blood, but

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I'm like, these look.

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Speaker 4: Like Bigfoot coming out of a portal.

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Speaker 3: Either they're interdimensional or they have the ability to know

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where the doorways are here already. You know, like if

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something else created a portal, they do have supernatural DNA.

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Bigfoot is, they have the supernatural DNA, so they would

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know where all of the doorways and wormholes and stuff

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on this planet would be. In my honest opinion, rather

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than your inter dimensional we know that your doors. We're

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just going to use the doors that are already here.

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Speaker 2: I mean that aspect of it makes sense, right. You

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know where the doors are in your house, and so

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do I in mind, So if that's the case, then

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that certainly makes sense. So prior to you guys seeing

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this portal, and obviously you're out for paranormal bigfoot purposes, right,

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so you're kind of ready to go. You have cameras

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ready if you need them, which high five by the way,

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for capturing anything at all. That's very rare. Uh exactly

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did you were you kind of in the flesh and

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blood camp or were you kind of in the middle

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of the road on that.

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Speaker 3: I was in the flesh and blood camp for the

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most part for a little while, Like I was open

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minded to the idea that there was more to them

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than that. But until you've actually seen something that shouldn't exist,

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like a portal opening up right in a normal neighborhood

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back of a park, your mind really starts to do

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a tumble a little bit. You're kind of like, Okay,

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now I got to figure out why here?

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Speaker 4: Why now?

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Speaker 3: Why these woods? Why this location? And I think knowing

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not one hundred percent of the time, but it's a

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lot of the time when you have these kinds of

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areas that have UFO sidings and some bigfoot going on,

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maybe some other cryptids. A lot of times it's some

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bloody land. There's some really bad shisa that has gone

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down via US and for whatever reason, maybe that creates

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the tears and the portals. Do you think, what's your

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theory on that.

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Speaker 3: I think that that is possible. I do think that

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happens a with like like look at Gettysburg. I think

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when you have totally known war torn lands that have

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had paranormal activity for as long as me being five

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years old watching it on TV. You know, I can

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remember going back and seeing Gettysburg and all that stuff

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when I was little, and it's like, I think that

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the bloodier and the more like massacres, you know, Native

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Americans getting killed, just all the horrible acts of war

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in general, that layered phenomena, and then you already got

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a factor in what already could be there. If the

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land already has spirits, now we shed more blood, Now

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we're adding more spirits. You know, it's like a containment

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area at that point. They're trapped there. In my honest opinion,

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when it comes down to the portals and like the

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rifts and stuff happening, I think a lot of it

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is how do I how do I worant this. Oh,

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let's let's let's do this. You have a you have

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a tree line right, then you have a field, then

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you have another tree line. That's a liminal space. We're

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transitioning from a thick wooded area with cover to now

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we're gonna be noticeable for a little bit, and then

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we're back in the woods again. When you notice these portals,

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they tend to be in openings like they tend to

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be in clearings. And this was right down a straight

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away where you have a tree line here and a

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tree line here, and it's just like this big thirty

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foot wide path that just goes straight and it's in

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the middle of nowhere. Because I believe to the left

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of that portal is where they tend to like hang

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out more. And then when they come hunt, they come

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through the cornfield, which coincidentally is right next to a runway.

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I wonder if maybe that's entertainment for them. It's an

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urban area, you know, they don't have TV. They're watching

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the kids play soccer and stuff. So I think that's

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that's where I'm at with that, And I apologize I'm

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a little little like brainy today. It was kind of

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a day at work.

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Speaker 2: No, it's great. It's gonna match my energy because I'm

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always all over the place, you well know. So that's

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why I keep writing things down because as you're talking,

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I'm like, oh gosh, there's another question. There's another question. Okay,

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because they are leaving tracks behind, people have claimed to

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have shot them and killed them. Now do we have

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a body, No, but they claim this. Okay, so let's

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assume they're telling the truth. They can leave hair behind,

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and even strange DNA samples have been found. So then

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when they're here, then are they they're part of the environment.

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Now they are flesh and blood in that way.

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Speaker 4: I think so, I think that.

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Speaker 3: I mean when you call them the forest people, like

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I hear forest people a lot, I mean, if you

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think about that, you look at that literally they're part

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of the forest. I mean, would they not have the

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ability to completely manipulate any aspect of the woods. I mean,

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we have cloaking, We have the ability to run through

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like dry, crunchy leave areas without leaving so much as

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a sound. These things move at a speed that is

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just astonishing. And if you follow my page Urban Bigfoot

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on Facebook, I have a lot of that stuff uploaded,

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a lot of my evidence that we've captured, and you

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can see where like even my buddy you'll go out

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there by himself, I'll go out there by myself.

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Speaker 4: We'll get different activity.

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Speaker 3: We'll go out there together as a team, like we're

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going to do tonight on another investigation, and we'll get

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different activity when we're a team. So it's I like

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to I like to play around a little bit with

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the research and the and the method methodologies.

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Speaker 2: I love that you said that, because that is a

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question that I've asked people so many times, is if

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you go out for bigfoot or I suppose it could

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be for UFOs, you know, if they're doing the more

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CE five type. Is how how does the activity change

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depending on the dynamics of who is out there trying

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to elicit the activity or experience the activity. Uh, doesn't

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mean you're necessarily poking for it, so you know, I

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like you said, if if you have a whole group,

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it's different. If you guys are out at the same

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time and you split off, it's different. So that's very interesting.

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Speaker 3: It is and It's also interesting because like you'll be

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walking down the trail and like he and I'll just

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be talking, and I am convinced that that's when these

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things start to do their activity, is when they know

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you're talking. So he and I'll talk and they'll be

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like a huge knock or they'll be something will be

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like thrown in front of us, like just so you know,

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you're not the only ones out here right now. It's

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kind of like a little warning to let us know.

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that if you're going out there and you're truly just

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a curious individual that genuinely has an interest in the

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subject and wants to know what these things are, they're

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gonna honor that. But if you're going out there armed,

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even if you have the side mentality of what if

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something happens, they pick up on that. And I think

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that if you're a decent human being and you work

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at it enough, you're probably gonna have an experience at.

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Speaker 4: Some point in time.

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Speaker 2: What if you take a gun out and you have

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it in your mind. I mean, one hundred percent, to

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the fullest extent. It's only for psychotic people or mountain

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lions and you fully one hundred percent that's in your head.

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Do you think that then that negates what you said

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and they'll still come out and have some activity and

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you'll have some experiences.

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Speaker 4: I think that that would probably depend on the Sasquatch,

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because I mean, if we've studied the site for about

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four years, and I think that you kind of can

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establish a relationship over time with them.

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Speaker 3: I actually in February first of this year in Michigan

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is so freaking cold. It was like twenty below in

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February this year, and we're out there because if I'm

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out there and nobody else's I'm finding stuff that nobody

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else is finding. And I look over to a spot

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right near where the gifting area is and there's a

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wreath fifteen feet off the ground made out of the

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vine from those trees hanging on this makeshift stick between

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like a y tree like this, like something stuck a

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hook in, set the wreath on it and said here,

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come get it. Yoh, that's all over my We have

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the reaction video on my Urban Bigfoot page. My buddy

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actually film me walking out to it. We thought it

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was an old like barbed wire fence.

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Speaker 4: Like roll or something.

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Speaker 3: Right, it was just because it's old farmland and I'm like, dude,

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I gotta go in there and see what the heck

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this is. And it's just just like four foot across wreath,

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hand woven, twisted everything. And I'm like, I don't know

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if it's a big foot, but I don't know too

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many people that are, you know, making wreaths in southeast

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Michigan in February.

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Speaker 4: Either is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it just a bunch of pine boughs or what

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was it made of?

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Speaker 4: I want I can go grab it. I'll go grab

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it and.

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Speaker 2: Okay, oh wow, oh it's it's quite perfectly circular except

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for that part sticking out. It's really that's impressive.

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Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy? I've had this since February and I

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just keep it on display.

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Speaker 2: Now, wow, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Actually the gun on a tree, like, was this left

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for me?

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Speaker 3: So I talked to another researcher and they said, make

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one for them. That's their invitation for you to like

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be the family like they after you. So now you've

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got to put one back where they left yours. So

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we made cooking back up there, so we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, yep, so truly, And I mean i've bigfoot

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having the ability to weave is something that is I mean,

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you've seen horse manes, the stories that people who have

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went out to check their horses in the morning and

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like the main was braided.

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Speaker 4: So Bigfoot does tend to They do tend to kind

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of beautify things a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think some of the girls have. Girl bigfoots have

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been known to put shells in their hair and braid

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their hair and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So what what all have you guys been leaving then?

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To get eventually this wreath that you've been gifting.

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Speaker 4: I started with.

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Speaker 3: General gifting, but I didn't want the gifting to get

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to where now they're relying on it. Now I'm going

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to be on my next podcast is going to be

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a horror story about them following me home. Yeah, because

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I didn't leave anything, so just enough to kind of

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show that they're appreciated, but not enough to make them

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rely on it. And we started with I started with

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watermelon and cantalope. Daryl Denton said that cantilope is like

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their most favorite thing, and I'm like, all right, I'm

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going to give.

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Speaker 4: That a whirl, So we left that out there.

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Speaker 3: I have like, there's a box and everything out there

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that we just leave there, and I have the camera

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rolling and I've actually caught I think I've caught them

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on my trail cam too. People want to argue and

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say that they don't like IR, they avoid IR. I'm like,

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I don't think it's the R. I think they avoid

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foreign objects in their house. They're like, what the heck

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is this doing out here? Over time, though, if I

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leave it there, which I did, and I put the

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gifting box below it, that's changing.

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Speaker 4: That's behavioral modification. Now they associate the camera with good

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things instead of just being like, what's this doing in

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my forest?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 2: That said though, with them getting used to the camera,

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has there been times then that things have been taken

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out of the box and you're going, well, there's going

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to be there has to be something on the camera,

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and there isn't mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: There's even spots where you know, you can argue on

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darkened footage that it could just be the grain, but

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it almost looks like you can see something cloaked in

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some of the slides on the SD card just kind

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of gradually coming in front of it.

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Speaker 2: But so I yeah, yeah, that's that definitely kind of

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freaks me out a little bit. I don't know about you,

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but the whole they go invisible, they can cloak, you know,

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this whole predator shimmery type of a situation.

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Speaker 4: Pretty terrifying to encounter that.

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Speaker 2: A little freak. Boy, have you seen that?

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Speaker 3: We yes, my buddy Jake has seen has had a

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few cloaking incidents when he was out there.

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Speaker 4: And I both have been out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's my best friend and my research buddy, and

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we've had a lot of cloaking activity. There's been I've

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been out there by myself, just out for a walk.

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I wasn't even out there bigfooting. I was just wanted

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to clear my head a little bit, you know, And

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all of a sudden, the leaves just washed up off

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the ground, almost like in a mini tornado. When I

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heard a bunch of footsteps and I look over and

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it's just leaves and there's nothing. I think they like

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to play with us too, you know. I think they're

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especially the juveniles, they tend to be the playful ones.

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Speaker 2: So I know that people will be yelling if I

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don't bring it up. But and I'm not saying it's

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not Bigfoot, but you know, you have elementals and fay

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and all these other kinds of entities that could be

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out in the forest as well. So what's your thought

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on There's no way to know, but trying to deduct

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this seems like it's more Bigfoot. And this maybe seems

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like more of a forest entity of some sort, I mean,

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which you could say Bigfoot is. Of course, I'm just

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saying if something separate than Bigfoot exactly.

475
00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 3: I think Bigfoot tend to be more curious, I think,

476
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,519
than a lot of the other cripets are because they

477
00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:54,079
show that human intelligence. You know, they have like a

478
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,240
sentient ability to choose whether to be kind to you

479
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,759
or not, you know, you take something like a dog man.

480
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:03,559
They seem to be programmed. There seems to be a

481
00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:06,599
one track mind. But Bigfoot has a very human element

482
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,279
to them. And I think that Bigfoot, if it's a Bigfoot,

483
00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:13,039
they're gonna throw stuff at you. They have a warning system.

484
00:24:13,079 --> 00:24:16,319
There's like a five step warning system for you to leave,

485
00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:20,400
and I've pushed it to about three just for research purposes.

486
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,000
I do not want to go to five. And it

487
00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:25,440
starts with throwing things. They'll throw sticks, they'll throw a

488
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,559
little pebbles and stuff at you. They start growling. Never

489
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,759
had a bluff charge. I think that's around level four

490
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,079
or five. But they will push trees over, like in

491
00:24:34,079 --> 00:24:36,319
the path in front of you as a final like,

492
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,759
don't you get it? We don't want you here right now,

493
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,480
It's time.

494
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 4: For you to leave.

495
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: So what do you think level five is? Level five

496
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,039
you becoming a Louisville slugger, bat against a tree, or

497
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:47,559
they just take you somewhere, like you know, what's the

498
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,680
level five? Do you think?

499
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,799
Speaker 4: Level five?

500
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,559
Speaker 3: I think is more you're gonna get chased or possibly attack,

501
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,200
depending on what time of year it is. I'm not

502
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,559
sure if they have a breeding season, that would be

503
00:24:57,599 --> 00:25:00,839
like the same timeframe that most animals would. Because you

504
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,839
got a factor in I mean, I believe, I believe.

505
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,759
If you want, I can give you a quick run

506
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,559
on what I think Bigfoot is and that might help

507
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,079
you see what it supports my research. I think Bigfoot

508
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,279
is a post flood biblical creation. I think that there

509
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,680
were two wars in heaven. You had the Book of Enoch. Obviously,

510
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,359
you had the watchers that came down to Earth. And

511
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,599
God flooded the earth. But it says in Genesis six

512
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,279
there were giants on those days and also afterward. Afterward

513
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,200
is referencing the flood. So if everything died in the flood,

514
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:34,960
how do we have more giants and creatures afterwards? Right,

515
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,279
That's where I think the devil gets kicked out of

516
00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:40,400
heaven post flood, and that's a second incursion they talk

517
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,799
about in the Bible. So you have all these cryptids

518
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:46,680
pre flood. Now we have post flood cryptids because they

519
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,720
came down to Earth and they slept with women again

520
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:53,079
and animals. And now you also have this angelic DNA

521
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,359
from these fallen angels in them as well, which I

522
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,160
think that's where they get their strength and their speed

523
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,440
and all their cool abilities from. But they get their

524
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,599
intelligence from the human aspect, and they get their athletic

525
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,960
ability from the animalistic aspect. It's like a perfect creation.

526
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,440
But they were made to defy God's natural order of creation.

527
00:26:10,599 --> 00:26:12,759
This was the angel saying, look what we can do,

528
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:16,200
and they weren't supposed to be made. That's what I

529
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,599
think Bigfoot is. They don't belong to a bloodline, they

530
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,079
can't be traced. It's a separate creation, entirely outside of

531
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:24,000
God's national order.

532
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,279
Speaker 2: So then we're probably we'll never We're not going to

533
00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:30,039
get the DNA, We're not going to get the body,

534
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000
will never quite really figure out what they are.

535
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: Nas out there.

536
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: I think the Kandahar giant is our secret to the

537
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:41,519
DNA for sasquatch partial DNA, because they obviously would be

538
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,039
Enoughholum descendants. They wouldn't be full, you know, full fledged giants,

539
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,400
but they would be Enoughlum descendants in my honest opinion.

540
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:51,119
So I think something like the Candahar Giant, which was

541
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:54,680
eleven hundred pounds and twelve feet tall according to the

542
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,000
if it happened, I mean, it's been going around enough

543
00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,200
now to I really don't think it's just urban legend anymore.

544
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,200
A lot of people came out and talked about it.

545
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:05,000
I think that that would be partial DNA to help

546
00:27:05,079 --> 00:27:10,680
finish Melba Ketchum's DNA study. I know Melba's controversial. I

547
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,720
get that, but she did a lot more for the

548
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,799
bigfoot field than that aspect than a lot of other

549
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:16,599
researchers ever have.

550
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 4: Whether you believe it or not.

551
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: At least she tried right exactly. She had a ton

552
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,839
of effort in there, no matter what.

553
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,759
Speaker 3: Exactly you and me sit here talking about it. She

554
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,519
actually went out there and tried something.

555
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's amongst a sea of just nothing but

556
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,559
shit talking. And there's that no matter what. So she

557
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,039
at least she did just she went for what she

558
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,839
believed in. So got to give her credit for that.

559
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,319
Speaker 3: At least she's interesting too. I mean that the DNA

560
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,680
studies interesting in itself. You know, Sasquatch allegedly was traded

561
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,200
around fifteen thousand years ago, which would have been right

562
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,680
at the end of the Pleo Sistine Ice Age era,

563
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,240
so we're looking at cavemen. So I think we could

564
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,519
probably effectively if her study is legit probably could trace

565
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:06,359
Bigfoot back pretty far. We just have to get that DNA.

566
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,400
And I do think the government probably.

567
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: Has that DNA.

568
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: Do you know if she's still doing any any work anymore.

569
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:14,759
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

570
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: I have not seen her pop up anywhere. I mean

571
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,799
I hear pop up in discussion, but it's more of

572
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,440
a what do you think about the Melba Ketcham DNA study?

573
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,880
Not like what is Melbour doing now?

574
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so hypothetical. I like those. So say, say

575
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,839
you have this. You have a stage five clinger, right,

576
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,599
and you've you've really effed up, and this this dude,

577
00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:46,400
this chick is mad. And do you think that this is,

578
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,599
you know, going down a whole nother rabbit hole? Of course,

579
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,720
But do you think that there are times when they

580
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,440
they do take people and it may not even be

581
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,599
because they're pissed at you? Maybe they just I mean,

582
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,400
don't they eat when they're here? And maybe one of

583
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,599
them gets lazy sometimes and he's like, you know what,

584
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,839
I'm gonna door dash me some food right now. I

585
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,440
don't want to go run after that deer.

586
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:07,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

587
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,839
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's a possibility? Is that sometimes

588
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,839
what goes on in the wilds I do?

589
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:14,799
Speaker 4: I do, honestly.

590
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:18,039
Speaker 3: I do think that Sasquatch is largely responsible for a

591
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:20,039
lot of our strange missing person cases.

592
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: I really do.

593
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: But if you look at these places where these people

594
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,799
are going missing, it tends to be a more rugged

595
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,440
area anyway. And I think that Sasquatch is kind of

596
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,599
a geographical thing. My urban Sasquatch doesn't have to fight

597
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,880
for anything. We're not in the middle of Alaska. It's

598
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,000
not cold, you know. We have basically a wildlife refuge

599
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:41,640
loaded with animals, you know, in the back of that park.

600
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,960
So it's like they get a free meal. You're not

601
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,680
allowed to hunt back there. I mean, who wouldn't come

602
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,519
here to eat, right, it's a free pass.

603
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know that people don't. They don't like

604
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:59,240
to hear that anybody discussed bigfoot taking and eating people.

605
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 4: Or you know, I mean look at the Gugway.

606
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:08,079
Speaker 3: The Gugway is notorious for allegedly having a pension for

607
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,720
human flash.

608
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's such a dark sye to it. And

609
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:17,440
one of your Oh wait before I go there, hold on,

610
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,440
because I want to go to this point. Thank you

611
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,240
for the beautiful bullet point lessie you sent me.

612
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:24,079
Speaker 4: By the way, Tangent eight coming right up.

613
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:27,519
Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, And this just kind of butts

614
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:31,519
against what we were just talking about. But sudden disappearances

615
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,599
in the more urban and slash rural corridors, right, Like

616
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,319
we were just starting to touch on that. But a

617
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,119
big thing that has been going on is like people

618
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,440
in Austin. Look what's going on in Austin, right, They're

619
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,640
going missing and they're ended up in the river.

620
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,599
Speaker 5: Uh.

621
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,079
Speaker 2: And that happens in more places than just Austin. And

622
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:55,480
it's not always they end up in rivers. Sometimes they

623
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,039
just they aren't captured on camera, or they are and

624
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:03,000
then no one will sees them afterward. That's when I

625
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:08,960
start to get into the other and not blaming Bigfoot

626
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:13,279
for everything. You know, like, how how far out or

627
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,920
how here's a better way to word it, how big

628
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,839
or how urban does it have to be before then

629
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,480
you you count Bigfoot out right, then you go, well,

630
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,480
that's something else true.

631
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:28,559
Speaker 3: I mean, but when we look at all the cryptids,

632
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,000
and I mean, and you and I've been doing this

633
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,039
stuff for a long time. I'm still learning about new cryptids.

634
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:35,319
There's things I've never heard of, and like, how did I,

635
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:38,039
who spent eighty percent of my life buried in this stuff,

636
00:31:38,119 --> 00:31:40,960
not know this? So, I mean, there's so many things

637
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,039
out there we don't know that we have to we

638
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,680
have to basically blame them for a lot of these disappearances.

639
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,400
But maybe if Bigfoot's interdimensional in that sense though, walk

640
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,599
into Washington, DC, take a kid step back into your

641
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Kentucky portal.

642
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: That's what I was just gonna say, is why can't

643
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,119
that portal then be in the middle of Chicago somewhere

644
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,000
or down a back alley somewhere, right, I mean, is

645
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:06,920
that does your mind go there? Sometimes too?

646
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: It does?

647
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:10,559
Speaker 3: But because you can't, I mean, we can't limit ourselves

648
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:12,440
with this because we don't know enough about it to

649
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,680
be like it's this or it's that. I have to

650
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,759
be open minded to literally all of the possibilities. And

651
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:19,880
if that means that my course of research has to

652
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,720
change because there's like new evidence or something that makes

653
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:26,039
me have to divert from my path, you know, I'm

654
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:26,720
going to do that too.

655
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:27,039
Speaker 4: Wet.

656
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,359
Speaker 3: We have to be dedicated to the research that my

657
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,680
mind goes all over the place with that stuff, you know,

658
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,720
like Dennis Martin in the Smoky Mountains, the Dennis Martin case.

659
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:38,599
I researched the Dennis Martin case for a long time,

660
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,599
and I'm thinking it's nineteen sixty nine.

661
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: We're in the height of the Vietnam War.

662
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 3: Dennis goes missing playing hide and seek in plain sight,

663
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,440
and then there's a Green Beret unit there training. Were

664
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,880
we really going to have a Special Forces unit in

665
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000
nineteen sixty nine when we needed all the bodies fighting

666
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:59,440
the Vietnam War just to go after a kid? I

667
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,319
think the den Smartan case was a containment issue, and

668
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,559
that's why the green Berets were called because they claimed

669
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:09,319
there was a hairy, raggedy looking creature or man carrying

670
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,359
a child sized slump over their shoulder. Could have been

671
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,759
a gugway, you know, Denis Dennis would be the reason

672
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:18,920
to Okay, we're sending the guys to get Dennis. That's

673
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,240
not the real reason we're sending the you know, we're

674
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,920
sending the green Brays and they get the thing that

675
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,599
took Dennis.

676
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:25,559
Speaker 4: That's what I think happened.

677
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:27,319
Speaker 3: I mean, when you look at a lot of these cases,

678
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,680
you're not going to spare green Berets during Vietnam for

679
00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:35,119
a child rescue mission. That would have been local government,

680
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,279
that would have been park rangers, that would have been

681
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:39,680
National Guard. They would have not went to a top

682
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,359
tier special operations unit just for a ten year old child.

683
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: The shittiest that sounds, they wouldn't, you know.

684
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially since they just happened to be there. Strange

685
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,200
yeah timing. Uh, Okay, So how about this, uh, the

686
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,240
tent hole theory and slip notes, Let's talk about that

687
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:00,799
a little bit.

688
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: Yes, this one, I love this.

689
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,839
Speaker 3: This is where my nerd brain explodes. Okay, inside the

690
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,199
tent is normal reality. You're inside your tent, you're camping,

691
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,320
it's normal reality. Outside of your tent, crap's weird. There's

692
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,239
weird things going on, but you're safe inside your tent.

693
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,639
Now let's say you get like a pin hole in

694
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,360
the side of your tent. Now that phenomena starts to

695
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,519
leak inside. Now you're experiencing the things that you were

696
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:29,159
protected from. I think that's where all these places on

697
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,280
Earth were, Like I'm two feet in front of you,

698
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960
but your watch is one second slower than me type

699
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,559
things are going on. I think that's where a lot

700
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:37,880
of that comes into play. And I think that's the tent.

701
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,719
We live in our reality, but occasionally there's a pin hole,

702
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,199
and our reality is the tent, and that's when we

703
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,119
get the high strangeness overlap. And that's where that ties

704
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,960
into my interdimensional theory of them being adjacent to us

705
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,719
in different realities, rather than they're coming from Jupiter.

706
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 4: No they're not. No, they're not.

707
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,599
Speaker 3: They're they're basically, if you take a map and you

708
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:03,440
fold Washington onto Michigan, they're essentially walking out of Washington

709
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,360
into Michigan. It's more of a layered model. You know

710
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,039
what a three D versus flat is? How is how

711
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:09,880
I think that works.

712
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,639
Speaker 2: So they've just they just know how to do that,

713
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:15,159
and we simply just don't.

714
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: Exactly and do we have the capacity. Sure people we've

715
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,800
had on this earth, you know, Edgar Casey, there's so

716
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,360
many people that would have probably had the ability to

717
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,079
find that out. And I just think that the tenthole

718
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:31,840
theory for people that don't understand how weirdness can happen

719
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,320
in normal places, that's exactly why you just happen to

720
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,199
be on like a fracture or some sort of where

721
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,880
time behaves slightly differently, because people view time as an

722
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,400
abstract thing and it's just not You know, if if

723
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,559
you look at time like it's its own separate element,

724
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,440
it completely changes the way you look at a lot

725
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:48,840
of things.

726
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 4: So one of the past peature happening at the same time, yeah, you.

727
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: Know, simultaneously, rather than this happened, then, this is happening, now,

728
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,199
this will happen. No, it's all happening at the same

729
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,119
time in different realities.

730
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: The stuff gets so trippy in mine bendy right, like yeah, yeah, yeah,

731
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:11,639
Well because one of the sub bullet points here says

732
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,199
temporary localized breeches. But when we're talking about like where

733
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,920
your portals pop up, those would be more what you

734
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,920
mentioned before that, which is just thin veil locations that

735
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,280
are permanently thin. And that's like like my door over

736
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,280
here is always where that door is. But then you

737
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,440
say there are temporary locations where then a door would

738
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,639
appear on this side and then they can come through there.

739
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:42,840
So why can they create those temporary door locations? Do

740
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,400
you think or is there some kind of a special

741
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,679
event that may happen.

742
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: I think it's more of a if I'm sitting in

743
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,239
square B and sasquatches and square A just above me,

744
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,599
and he he can just open up the trap door

745
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:03,199
to my ceiling and peek in. They know where that

746
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,719
door is. They know how to slip from one dimension

747
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,000
to the next. And you know, if you if you

748
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:11,039
believe what cern and all of them are doing, you

749
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:13,239
know they might be tapping into that kind of stuff too.

750
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,480
But ultimately I think that they just know where the

751
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:19,800
doors are. They just know how to manipulate time and

752
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,239
space to their benefit. You know, it'd be like using

753
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,880
telekinesis to bring something to you instead of walking across

754
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,559
the room to get it. I think that's their mentality

755
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,079
is work smarter, not harder, just to take the path

756
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:32,440
of these resistance like ours is.

757
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:36,119
Speaker 2: Would that be so nice to learn Scott did be

758
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,400
able to move things like that, That would be incredible.

759
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,599
Speaker 3: If you want to go down to Kentucky and just

760
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:43,760
open up a little like slip note and just jump

761
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,760
in and yeah, that'd be fantastic. We need to get

762
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,760
a sasquatch and question them and see if we can

763
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,760
learn this knowledge.

764
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially as much as I hate the process of

765
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,039
flying on airplanes, I would love.

766
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,079
Speaker 4: That be fantastic.

767
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:03,039
Speaker 2: So we've already touched on this, but maybe you want

768
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:06,039
to expand upon it. The last bullet point here is

769
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,280
why high strangs may cluster around certain locations repeatedly.

770
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:11,559
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

771
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: That's what ties into my like the war theory, battles

772
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,079
have taken place there. I mean, we have a lot

773
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,920
of a call to activity around here. Satan Warship was

774
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,480
very big around here for a while. It's taken place

775
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:25,239
out there. I know spots where it's happened. And all

776
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,920
you're doing is opening up more doorways to an already

777
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,239
high strangeness infested location. And I think the reason they

778
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,920
stay that way is because it's really easy to open

779
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,119
a door to the other side, but it's really hard

780
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,360
to close it. And I think people just get in

781
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,519
over their heads sometimes and don't realize that, and then

782
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:46,079
the locations just remain completely tainted. It's just that layered phenomena.

783
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:51,280
War abuse, you know, prohibition, slavery, all that stuff just

784
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,760
creates a horrible, horrible territory. And that's where all of

785
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,639
our weird creatures like sasquatch, for whatever reason, tend to

786
00:38:58,679 --> 00:38:59,280
flock around.

787
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: So this part may be my favorite bullet point out

788
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,000
of all of it, and it is the subterranean movement

789
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:17,199
corridor theory. Okay, so we have portals that one anything subtraanean.

790
00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:19,360
It creeps me out and I love it. At the

791
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,440
same time, I just I'm like, nope, but yes, So

792
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,559
we have the portals, they have the door, they come

793
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,840
in the front door. They're let loose upon our plane

794
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,159
of dimension, our reality. But where they travel is, according

795
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,920
to you, more the subterranean movement when they can right

796
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:40,719
so out of sight, out of mind, a little bit

797
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,679
easier travel. Maybe at least some of the time, So

798
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,679
let's talk about that.

799
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: Like around here, there are massive cement callberts under a

800
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,880
lot of the ground for drains that are drainage pipes,

801
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,599
and they're probably a good eight or ten ft wide

802
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:56,599
eight or nine feet tall, so the water would get

803
00:39:56,599 --> 00:39:59,280
to be about maybe three feet tall in them. So

804
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:04,079
they all connect to major tree lines, major waterways, and

805
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:06,840
they all pop out where there's game trails as well.

806
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,920
So how how can I cross a field without leaving

807
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:14,320
any sort of signature that I was there, without using

808
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,719
my special warping powers or anything like that. I'm gonna

809
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,320
walk through this massive hole that just walks under the airport,

810
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,239
and then I'm gonna pop out at the other side

811
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,079
there's a game trail. Take my deer, walk back in

812
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:29,400
the walk back in the calvert, go back to where

813
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,320
I was. I think that that's where they use the

814
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,239
railroad tracks for too, the deep ends of railroad tracks.

815
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:39,239
You could walk down there and never be spotted. They'd

816
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,639
use natural camo when they can, And I think that

817
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,840
they don't use the teleportation aspect as much, unless like

818
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,800
maybe we're getting like one from another side of the

819
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,119
state or something that's coming here. You know what, I mean, like,

820
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:55,440
I think that they're using the calverts as travel points,

821
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,599
and why wouldn't they They're already in key locations. We

822
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,400
travel unseen, right by the water, right by a food source,

823
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:05,239
right by trees and cover.

824
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 4: I mean, why not?

825
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,559
Speaker 2: So Scott, you know when and I think you've already

826
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:13,519
kind of mentioned this, I think in the beginning, But

827
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,559
you know, you'll have like a trackway that's only two

828
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:21,079
tracks and then there's nothing to jump to, there's nowhere

829
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:23,639
to go, and it just ends, and there's no reason

830
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:26,119
for it to end. It cannot be, it doesn't seem possible.

831
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,519
But then you're talking about them choosing to travel underground

832
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,719
or you know, next to a railroads something like that,

833
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,519
to not leave tracks or ease of travel, but when

834
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:44,800
in reality they have this incredible ability to they take

835
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,400
two steps and where they go I don't know who

836
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,320
where do they go? Does that mean that there are

837
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,199
I mean, you don't know, but I'm just asking hypothetical

838
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,360
levels of different levels of ability there or a lack

839
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,119
of energy or yeah, I.

840
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 4: Think that's I think that's reasonable to say for sure.

841
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: I mean, if if I see, you know, we're following

842
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,920
tracks for a quarter of a mile and suddenly there's

843
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,159
just nothing. There's no there's no depressions in the grass,

844
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,840
there's no depressions in the leaves. Walking off into the woods,

845
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:20,519
that's probably where one of those doors are, to slip

846
00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:23,679
back into an adjacent dimension, you know, Like they walk

847
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,079
along and it's like, oh crap, maybe they didn't want

848
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:28,719
to leave their footprints, so they're looking down like all right,

849
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,800
time for me to go, and they just zip out.

850
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,039
And then that's why we don't have an explanation for

851
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:34,320
why the trackway ends.

852
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:39,079
Speaker 2: So that's them fully leaving our plane, more than likely

853
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,679
not moving to another area of the woods. I mean,

854
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,960
maybe they could if they go portal to portal, But okay,

855
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,199
if you.

856
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: Look at that, like if there's a doorway here where

857
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,639
the tracks are, I mean, they could easily glitch into

858
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:53,960
that one and you know, pop.

859
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: Out one hundred miles away. Who knows, right.

860
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,599
Speaker 3: But if again, if you look at it, like reality's

861
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:01,000
layered and adjacent and it's not distant like our brains

862
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:04,480
naturally want to go to like literally you and me,

863
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,199
like we're here just above us as bigfoot. Literally they

864
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:09,360
could be listening to us right.

865
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: Now, who knows, right, Like I want to see you.

866
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:14,519
Speaker 4: Yes, come on down.

867
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:17,079
Speaker 3: We need proof, thank you, and I don't want a

868
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,519
body to do it.

869
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: It does make you wonder, uh, why wouldn't they be

870
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:29,679
seen then more in a very very urban setting like

871
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,880
on the Vegas Strip.

872
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,639
Speaker 3: I think that honestly. I mean I'm not a huge

873
00:43:35,639 --> 00:43:38,039
fan of people. You're probably not a massive fan of people. No,

874
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:41,880
I mean it's our crowd is about who we're fans of,

875
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,559
you know, our our little weirdo family. Yeah, that's that's

876
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:46,760
the kind of people we like. I think that it's

877
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,800
just like when you start to build, you know, we

878
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,960
start to build buildings. These things are here before we were.

879
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,599
When you start to take away the natural resources in

880
00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:57,639
the land, you're going to cross paths with stuff you've

881
00:43:57,639 --> 00:44:00,280
never seen before we started our lives. You know, they

882
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,920
start to intercept and we don't. Really there's nothing we

883
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,760
can really do about it. So when you start wiping

884
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,559
out the resources, now these things have to go inter

885
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:10,159
dimensional because there's less places for them to hide now.

886
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,960
But I think they want to largely avoid people because

887
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,440
that's their outcasts. You know, they don't fit into society.

888
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,960
That's why they were sent away more or less so

889
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,320
I think they're avoiding people and they want to stay

890
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,840
out of sight as much as possible. But if you're

891
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,559
looking for them, you know, like me and we have experiences,

892
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:31,800
I think that they're eventually going to really reveal themselves

893
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,559
to you, as long as your intentions are clean, as

894
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:36,239
long as you're not trying to get a body or

895
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,599
trying to make it. Like I never got into going

896
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,199
on podcasts or Bigfoot research because I wanted to get rich.

897
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:43,679
I got on because I wanted to yack about stuff

898
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:45,559
that nobody else wants to hear, you know, like I

899
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:47,159
don't want to hear about big foot anymore, babe.

900
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: Okay, fine, I'll go on a podcast. I hear you.

901
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: I hear you on that one, that's for sure. So

902
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,760
what do you this is a huge hypothetical. What do

903
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,119
you think is on the other side of that, that

904
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,639
that side of the portal for them?

905
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,159
Speaker 3: That's a good question. And I know there have been

906
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:13,039
people I've talked to people who've allegedly like walked through

907
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,199
portals and it wasn't like they went into a different

908
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:19,519
time zone or anything, but it was almost like things

909
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:22,880
went slow and hazy, like walking through a fog kind

910
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,639
of like the the Remina Triangle reports that you can

911
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,679
that some people talk about like time just kind of slows.

912
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,719
That's but from their end, that's a really good question.

913
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,159
I've never thought of that. That's a that is a

914
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:38,039
really good question.

915
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:39,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

916
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 2: One of my favorite episodes. It was long ago and

917
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,679
he was in India studying snakes and he's a biologist

918
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,639
and there he's out with a group of people and

919
00:45:53,679 --> 00:46:00,440
he walks into this tall grass area very Stephen King askue.

920
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: Right.

921
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,199
Speaker 2: He walks into the tall grass and there's a lookout

922
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,159
tower with a couple of his he's the boss, he's

923
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:10,280
the lead of this project for these I think it

924
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,639
was for I can't remember snake. I don't want to

925
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:18,000
misspeak anyway, big ass snake. Right, And he walks into

926
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,599
this tall grass and he can tell things are just

927
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,880
different all of a sudden, and everything goes completely quiet,

928
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,320
like you said, just everything just kind of closes in,

929
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,719
gets real quiet, and he's trying to talk to his

930
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,639
subordinates that are up in this tower and they cannot

931
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:39,880
hear him, and uh, it's it's a whole thing but interesting. Yeah,

932
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,159
he eventually see any I believe he kind of got

933
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:47,400
almost to where he felt like he was trapped in

934
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:51,079
this weird liminal space, this muted I called the muta place.

935
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,039
The muted places is what it's called. He got out,

936
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,079
but he said it was one of the trippiest things

937
00:46:59,159 --> 00:47:01,679
that had ever happened to him, which I would imagine.

938
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:10,079
So yeah, no, I mean, I'm right there with you.

939
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,400
I very little enough has happened to where I know

940
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:17,360
that there's other things out there, of course that we

941
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,559
cannot explain. But I'm I'm no, it's not weird. I

942
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:23,880
get you, I totally do. It happened long enough to

943
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,000
where he goes, this was screwed up, This was not normal,

944
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:29,000
and then he was able to get out of that.

945
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:33,480
But are there people that now not only could they

946
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:36,280
not hear him, but obviously they they weren't interacting with

947
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,079
him in any way, shape or form. And He's like,

948
00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:41,760
I'm the boss. There was no, that wasn't the dynamic.

949
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,440
There wasn't this funny, funny haha game that was going on.

950
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:51,199
Then are there? Yeah, It's like he just he just

951
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,559
wasn't there. So does that mean then that people can

952
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,119
walk through these things accidentally and then they just don't

953
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:58,639
come back. Maybe you know, he found his way out

954
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,159
of this weird space, but maybe not everybody.

955
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: Does, no, because I mean, let's be honest, when you're

956
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,079
going in the woods to go for a hike, er

957
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,360
hunter fish or whatever, the last thing you're planning on

958
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,559
is just walking out of this dimension. Yeah, and you know,

959
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:13,960
leaving nothing behind that ever showed you were there. I

960
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,199
mean that, which again that brings us to four one one.

961
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,360
You know, when you take the Missing four one one,

962
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:20,719
whether you like Dave Politis or not, whether you believe

963
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,559
Dave's legit or not, the phenomena is real. Like we

964
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:26,239
don't have to We don't have to believe the guy

965
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,920
to believe the phenomena, you know. But when you take

966
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,639
the missing four one one cluster map and you place

967
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,559
it over top of the major subterranean cave systems in

968
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:41,320
the United States, it is strikingly similar apple Achian pharaoh people,

969
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,440
all this stuff. People are bigfoots.

970
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the Hadels, That's what it is. And

971
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,360
that is on the no list. The Hadels are always

972
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:59,440
on the no list. No, thank you, No threw that. Oh,

973
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:06,599
you know, and if these cases are documented properly, is

974
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,239
the ones where and going off of Ash's experience in

975
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,000
this muted place that I called it.

976
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 3: That's a good name, the muted place. I think you

977
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,920
got a book idea right there.

978
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that was included in paramalgamation actually because

979
00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:26,000
I just, man, was that one really stuck with me?

980
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,599
But you know, the people that go missing, their searching

981
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:36,719
grid patterns, dogs, the whole thing, right for days, weeks,

982
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,280
whatever it is. They know they've gone over this area

983
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,639
however many times, and then somebody weeks, months, years later

984
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,960
is walking down that same area where all these people

985
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,760
were looking for this missing person or child heaven forbid,

986
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:59,639
and there is a skull cap or a backpack or

987
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:03,960
a whatever of this and you're going somebody walk back

988
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,840
and place it there.

989
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,119
Speaker 5: Yeah?

990
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,639
Speaker 2: Was it always there? But because it was in this

991
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,800
other place, it was just invisible at that time, Like, well,

992
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,199
what's really going on there?

993
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,559
Speaker 3: Interest like intersecting strange phenomena coinciding with disappearances of people.

994
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

995
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,119
Speaker 4: That's it.

996
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: I mean that's a broad subject. Yeah, you could do

997
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,079
a whole second show about that alone.

998
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is that one gets that one gets really

999
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:36,679
really deep and dark because so many times it's just thinking.

1000
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,159
Speaker 3: Well, when you listen to someone when you're like, Okay,

1001
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:39,880
the dude's already got hypothermia.

1002
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:41,519
Speaker 4: So why do I mean.

1003
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 3: I do know that certain stages of hypothermia throw you

1004
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:45,960
into a state of mind where I need to take

1005
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,880
all my clothes off. You start to become disoriented, So

1006
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,159
I do get that aspect of it. But if you

1007
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,239
already have early stage hypothermia, you're still aware of what's

1008
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,320
going on. You still know, hey, I need to I

1009
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,000
need to warm up.

1010
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:58,159
Speaker 4: You know I need to get out of here.

1011
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,679
Speaker 3: Why are people going twenty miles in the opposite direction

1012
00:51:03,159 --> 00:51:08,880
uphill or something when they already have hypothermia. Like a

1013
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,960
kid goes missing, here's here's the start of the trail.

1014
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:14,599
He goes missing a mile up and he's found twenty miles.

1015
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 4: To the east.

1016
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 3: Like something's carrying it. That's the only way I can

1017
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,679
make sense of it. It's being carried. Somebody's being carried

1018
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,880
and left there. We're finding pelvis'es inside of streams, people's

1019
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,039
footbones inside their shoes. Like I couldn't begin to give

1020
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:31,400
you an explanation of what's going on in the middle

1021
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,679
of nowhere. I mean, if this were like New York

1022
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,599
or something, it's probably the mob. But being in the

1023
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:39,639
middle of the woods, I couldn't tell you.

1024
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: Like and that.

1025
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:43,159
Speaker 3: I don't like not having answers or I mean, I

1026
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:44,679
know I don't have the answers. I don't like not

1027
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,760
having theories. I don't like having something that I can't

1028
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,239
give you an idea about. So that means that makes

1029
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,400
me have to dig into it further.

1030
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: Well, that's why this is a good convo, because I

1031
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:57,559
keep throwing all these millions of questions that you're not

1032
00:51:57,639 --> 00:52:00,159
gonna know the answer to, and you you're good it

1033
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,719
playing along. I appreciate that.

1034
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 4: Hey, absolutely, I can be.

1035
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: The worst with theories and trying to land on one

1036
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,079
because it depends on who I speak to. You know

1037
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:11,960
that day that that interview. I can flip flop and

1038
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:14,159
my mind can be kind of swayed this or that

1039
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,719
because I just I we don't know. And I think

1040
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:21,119
it's good to be open minded with all of this stuff. Okay,

1041
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:27,679
The last bullet point includes ancient texts and folklore connections.

1042
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:32,079
Speaker 3: This is where my I have sitting right over my

1043
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:34,360
bookshelf have quite a few of these books. This is

1044
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,760
where the Book of Enoch comes into play. This is

1045
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,559
where the alleged lost Book of King Ogg comes into play.

1046
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,280
The last of the Rafayim giants after the flood. These

1047
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,119
are all these old texts. Literally, they more or less

1048
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:49,760
talk about cryptids being created in these texts. I cannot

1049
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,800
remember precisely what verse in first Dnoch. There's three books

1050
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,519
of Enoch. First Enoch is the only one that's really

1051
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:57,960
relevant to the crypt side of things that we have

1052
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,159
an interest for. Second Enoch is we're about the cosmological

1053
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,079
hierarchy of heaven, and thirty knocks about Enoch turning into Metatron,

1054
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:07,400
the archangel, one of the archangels, if you believe that.

1055
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,039
But it says in one of the after they bred

1056
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:13,199
with the women and they had giants, it said they

1057
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,440
began to defile themselves with the fish of the sea

1058
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:17,920
and the beasts of the earth.

1059
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,519
Speaker 8: That's DNA manipulation if I ever saw it. That's where

1060
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,280
your your mermaids, and your sirens come from. All these

1061
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,280
things were never supposed to exist. And it all starts

1062
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,760
with the fall before the flood, when the two hundred

1063
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,360
watchers landed on Mount Herman and decided to take wives

1064
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:38,719
and essentially defy God's instruction entirely. I think that's where

1065
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,039
it all began. And then when we move after the flood,

1066
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,079
Lucifer gets kicked out of Heaven. Let's have a new.

1067
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,679
Speaker 3: Incursion from what happened however, many years before the flood,

1068
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:49,960
and let's do it again.

1069
00:53:50,039 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 4: Why not?

1070
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 3: And that's why we still have all these creatures here.

1071
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,719
Mermaid sightings aren't going up like crazy mermaids are going up.

1072
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,800
Dogmen might as well just be a regular puppy. There's

1073
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,719
so much of them being seen anymore, you know what

1074
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,840
I mean, They're so regular.

1075
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,599
Speaker 4: That's where I think it came from, honestly, is those

1076
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:08,159
old texts.

1077
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, dog Men definitely just seemed to follow, as you

1078
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:21,440
said earlier, just ONEm one pattern there experiences, people's experiences

1079
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,159
with them, for the most part, not always, but for

1080
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:29,519
the most part followed the same the same track, that's

1081
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:30,079
for sure.

1082
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: With doc men too.

1083
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,039
Speaker 3: I've only ever had like one or two dogmen encounters,

1084
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,800
and honestly, one of them wasn't even encounter. You know

1085
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,400
how much evidence you find going back over your recordings

1086
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,840
after your investigations over you the crap you'll find in

1087
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,519
the frames is just ridiculous. We had a dog man

1088
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:49,119
in one of the frames when we're out on a

1089
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:54,239
bigfoot pike late at night, huge ears, massive eyes. You

1090
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,559
can see like the skin in your legs where it's

1091
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,760
very lean and muscular. And I'm like, so, go Fallen soldiers,

1092
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:10,039
Satanic warship, bigfoot activity, bloody wars, prohibition, slavery. I have

1093
00:55:10,119 --> 00:55:13,599
a whole freaking Twilight Zone season back there.

1094
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:18,199
Speaker 2: Would you is that photo? Would you be willing to

1095
00:55:18,199 --> 00:55:19,159
share that as well?

1096
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 4: I'll send you everything that I have?

1097
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:28,679
Speaker 2: Okay, excellent, excellent, make I will I will cut that

1098
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,239
in well, Scott, if you don't mind, could we close

1099
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,280
with a couple more encounters that you feel just are

1100
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,320
really impactful.

1101
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:40,159
Speaker 3: Yes, I'll actually share my very first encounter with you,

1102
00:55:41,079 --> 00:55:42,960
this one. This is the one that really opened the

1103
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,039
rabbit hole even deeper. It was July of twenty twenty three,

1104
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,280
and you had just gotten back from Ohio recently. I

1105
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:53,840
know for you exactly. I was down in Athens, Athens, Ohio,

1106
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,639
which was like thirty.

1107
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 4: Miles from Hocking Hills.

1108
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1109
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: Me and my girlfriend were like, you know what, let's

1110
00:56:00,039 --> 00:56:02,559
get out of the city. Let's go into an off

1111
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:07,119
grid Airbnb. I picked the most off grid Airbnb.

1112
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 4: I think. Ever, we had to hike into the woods

1113
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,159
about a mile just to get to oh, the cabin.

1114
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,159
Speaker 2: You couldn't take a vehicle there.

1115
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 4: No, not unless you have like an ATV or something.

1116
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry because I talked at the same time

1117
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,880
you stepped on you. What were you You were explaining something.

1118
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: Oh, no, you're fine.

1119
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:28,039
Speaker 3: No, And you go back out there about like half

1120
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,519
a mile a mile, and I'm like, baby, sure you

1121
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,760
want off the grid. This is like wrong, turn off

1122
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,960
the and I walk up you have it's just a

1123
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,400
little staircase. It's basically like a super strong like tent

1124
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,599
structure on top of.

1125
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:46,519
Speaker 4: A deck, and it's solar powers. So you're pretty much

1126
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:47,920
but yeah, pretty much.

1127
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:51,159
Speaker 3: And we were out there and I'm like, dude, this

1128
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,760
is I want to get off the grid with you.

1129
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,599
But I'm also gonna do a little squatching just so

1130
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:58,159
you know, like if this is gonna be Squatchy woods,

1131
00:56:58,199 --> 00:56:59,519
this is gonna be squatchy woods.

1132
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 4: The Ohio grass man, you know, all of the encounters

1133
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,199
that went on down there.

1134
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 3: And We're sitting around the fire and I grab a

1135
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,519
chunk of wood and I'm just kind of being partially playful,

1136
00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:10,199
and I'm like, all right, babe, I'm gonna do some

1137
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,719
weird stuff and do some wood knocking.

1138
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 4: And she's like, what's wood knocking? It gave her a

1139
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:13,960
quick rundown.

1140
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: So I took a piece of the firewood, did some knocking,

1141
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:20,960
nothing happened, did it again. About five minutes later, we

1142
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,719
got three or four knocks back. And even my girlfriend,

1143
00:57:23,719 --> 00:57:26,519
who's the most massive skeptic in the world of bigfoot,

1144
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,880
was like, Okay, something definitely knocked back. And I'm like,

1145
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,360
there's no humans out here for miles. I don't know

1146
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,239
what it could be. That's not even that's just a

1147
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,719
little bit. That's not even like the fun stuff. That's

1148
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,400
just the maybe something could happen. We got some knocks,

1149
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,599
you know, that's a start. And then we're sitting around

1150
00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:47,880
the campfire just right outside the door, and I'm talking

1151
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,400
about bigfoot. I'm taking photos and I'm recording and you know,

1152
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,519
just hopefully maybe catch something on the evidence when I

1153
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:55,119
go over it later when we get back home, that

1154
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:58,360
sort of thing. Stuff starts moving in the woods at first,

1155
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,639
something and it's just deer, you know, coming around the

1156
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:02,679
cabin because it's in the middle of nowhere. It's still

1157
00:58:02,679 --> 00:58:06,679
pretty much wild out there, and I just got nervous.

1158
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,880
I'm like, we're being surrounded by something. I don't know

1159
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,679
what this something is. Might be a deer, might be

1160
00:58:11,679 --> 00:58:13,920
a coyote, might be Let's go inside the cabin for

1161
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,039
the night and you know, just call it. Later on

1162
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:20,719
that night, I hear scratching and you know those tiny

1163
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:23,719
little knocks, those little locks on camper doors, like it's

1164
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,760
just one good yank, you're breaking that bad way right off.

1165
00:58:27,239 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: Well, that's the kind of lock that was on that cabin.

1166
00:58:29,519 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: Something grabbed the door, gave it a yank, and for

1167
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,719
whatever reason, God willing, obviously that door didn't didn't break,

1168
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:40,760
it didn't open. I'm like, okay, this is interesting. I'm

1169
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,840
not leaving right now. I'm not hiking a mile out

1170
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,840
at two o'clock in the morning to get to the

1171
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,119
car or wait until daylight. We wait until daylight. And

1172
00:58:48,119 --> 00:58:53,320
then later on about three three point thirty, something grand

1173
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,000
right into the side of the cabin like just never mind,

1174
00:58:58,039 --> 00:58:58,480
just wall.

1175
00:58:58,679 --> 00:59:02,559
Speaker 4: We're talking kool aid guy like that. And I just

1176
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:07,559
hear this massive we felt the whole shed just like

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00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:11,119
gently slide a few inches to the left oh the dead.

1178
00:59:11,639 --> 00:59:15,000
You shifted it. And I'm like, okay, we're turning off

1179
00:59:15,039 --> 00:59:18,599
all the lights. We're gonna sit here until morning. At

1180
00:59:18,639 --> 00:59:19,800
some point we passed out.

1181
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 3: My girlfriend wakes me up, shaking me, and she's like,

1182
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:26,159
something's outside the window. She's like, I heard footsteps walking

1183
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:27,880
up and this window is about nine feet off the

1184
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,360
ground because we're elevated. She said, I footsteps are walking up.

1185
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,920
She said, I saw something put its hand up by

1186
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,760
the window. And then I woke you up and you said,

1187
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,039
what no more noise as nothing, and it was gone.

1188
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:39,679
Speaker 5: Mm.

1189
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,719
Speaker 3: That was And I'm like, I knew Bigfoot was real.

1190
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,719
Now Bigfoot is real real and I have photos from

1191
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:47,280
that as well.

1192
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 4: I can send you.

1193
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: How freaked out was she?

1194
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 4: She was really freaked out.

1195
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:55,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine she probably didn't like that very much.

1196
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:56,199
That whole thing.

1197
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 4: She did not like that very much.

1198
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: We were gonna go hiking at Hocking Hills the next day,

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but nobody got any sleep, so we ended up just

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01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,559
going home instead. She was being a skeptic and having

1201
01:00:06,599 --> 01:00:09,639
something happen is different, you know, like being somebody that

1202
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,079
largely probably doesn't believe in Bigfoot. She's the kind of

1203
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,480
show me the evidence type of person like, I'm not

1204
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:17,599
saying it's not real, but I need the cold, hard

1205
01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:20,079
truth to believe it. After that night, I think now

1206
01:00:20,119 --> 01:00:23,360
she's we've upgraded her to open minded skeptic instead of

1207
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,920
closed minded. She's like, what could have just walked up

1208
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,119
to my window, Scott, that's like nine feet tall and

1209
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,440
just walked away into nothing. I'm like, I've been telling

1210
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,920
you this for years, babe, bigfoot that was squat.

1211
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: What did she see out the window?

1212
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 4: She saw it like a like a hand out line

1213
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:46,119
and it was a massive hand.

1214
01:00:46,119 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, bigfoots to know one for touching

1215
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,079
glass and peeking through windows and campers and all that

1216
01:00:51,159 --> 01:00:53,599
kind of stuff. They're curious creatures, and I think that

1217
01:00:53,719 --> 01:00:57,840
we interrupted one really being curious when she woke me up,

1218
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,440
and then it was like, oh crap, and then it

1219
01:00:59,480 --> 01:00:59,960
takes off.

1220
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:02,559
Speaker 4: I got a lot of pictures from there too.

1221
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:10,119
Speaker 2: It makes you wonder if if it was especially a

1222
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:12,760
darker well, I mean, you can't see much outside of

1223
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,400
a dark one to win away. Let's face it, you're

1224
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,719
in a fish bowl. Essentially, you're just on display. It

1225
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,679
makes you wonder if she just saw the hand but

1226
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,599
you know, the rest of him was you know above

1227
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,079
and you know if if his chest is the rest

1228
01:01:28,119 --> 01:01:30,280
of whatever is behind the hand, she may not be

1229
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:36,639
able to detect the rest of the body instead of coming.

1230
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,039
Speaker 3: Out if you're seeing him, sorry to mean to cut

1231
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:42,119
your massive hand.

1232
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 4: That's where they That's what the focus is on. Yeah,

1233
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,320
the focus isn't on.

1234
01:01:46,239 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 3: What it's attached to. We're still getting past the hand

1235
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,599
part alone what it wants to, you know.

1236
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, he thinks fragmented like that.

1237
01:01:53,679 --> 01:01:57,559
Speaker 3: My brain is always moving. I'm constantly like three moves ahead.

1238
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,760
So I'm like, it's just a big foot, babe, go

1239
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,440
back sleep. Like she's like, how can you just go

1240
01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:04,119
back to sleep? What if there's a big foot.

1241
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 4: At the window?

1242
01:02:04,599 --> 01:02:06,719
Speaker 3: Because this is what I do, baby, this is what

1243
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,239
I look for this stuff. I'm out in the woods

1244
01:02:09,239 --> 01:02:11,079
at four in the morning looking for these things. Like

1245
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:14,320
that's a that's a win for me. It was terrifying

1246
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:17,079
because I always believe but that was my first experience.

1247
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:20,159
Trying to run through the side of the cabin is

1248
01:02:20,159 --> 01:02:21,079
what really got me.

1249
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:24,119
Speaker 2: I would imagine. So if the whole thing moved, Yeah,

1250
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,119
that's why I was thinking about your poor girlfriend, because

1251
01:02:27,159 --> 01:02:29,239
she's just out of here, that just wanted to have

1252
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,639
a nice relaxing time and then all this shyse is

1253
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:34,960
going down. Yeah, because at the windows nine feet up,

1254
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,559
it makes you think like was it doing one of these?

1255
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 5: You know?

1256
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,079
Speaker 2: And she just couldn't see the rest of it, as

1257
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:43,880
you say, because this is what's actually touching the glass

1258
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,480
and what she could see the most of So that's

1259
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,480
where my mind is instead of it just like reaching

1260
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:53,280
up and high fiving a window. It probably the bresid

1261
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,519
It was probably there, but thankfully, honestly she didn't see

1262
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,360
a face or something like that. I think, Yeah, that's

1263
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,920
when things get elevated for people big time, is because

1264
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,239
I ask everybody that, and I know you have too,

1265
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,119
well did you want to see the face? And a

1266
01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:10,400
lot of people going hell, no, what I want to

1267
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,000
see the face? You know, there's just a whole other

1268
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:17,159
level of that could go very badly to where you

1269
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:19,519
don't want to go back out in the woods anymore.

1270
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:20,920
It really screws people.

1271
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 3: Up because most people's encounters are like, hey, I was

1272
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,320
out hunting or hiking or something and I encountered one. Yeah,

1273
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,320
you know, most people go in the woods, not even

1274
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:31,639
considering the fact that there could be bigfoot out there.

1275
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 4: They don't.

1276
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:34,079
Speaker 3: That's the last thing on their mind, you know. They've

1277
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:36,760
never given a second thought to bigfoot. It's just a legend,

1278
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,400
it's just folklore. And then they become believers, and then

1279
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:43,719
hundreds of thirty years is totally quit. Personally, I like

1280
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,760
the fact that I believed always first because that allows

1281
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,480
me to basically prepare myself for what can happen in

1282
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:52,320
this field. So if it does happen for me, that's

1283
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,480
a win as long as I go home safe, as

1284
01:03:54,519 --> 01:03:56,079
long as my team goes home safe.

1285
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 4: Or good, you know.

1286
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: So on this, I'll just call it a yurt for

1287
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:02,159
lack of whatever. I don't even who knows what it

1288
01:04:02,199 --> 01:04:07,039
was actually made of. But where it was hit was there, dirt,

1289
01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:07,480
was there?

1290
01:04:07,559 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 7: Mud?

1291
01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: Was there? Scratches and indentation the side work permanently? Oh really?

1292
01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1293
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,679
Speaker 4: Could it be fixable? Probably, like if you heated it

1294
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,679
up or whatever, you could probably bend it back out.

1295
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:21,360
But it's like put a car door dent.

1296
01:04:22,679 --> 01:04:24,559
Speaker 2: How big was the dent? Was it like a like

1297
01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:25,800
a like a big shoulder.

1298
01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 4: It was picture meat running at you like that sort

1299
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:32,760
of a thing.

1300
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: So it was a good two or three feet wide,

1301
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:37,800
and I'm like, all right, we're not going to come

1302
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,000
to this one again. Actually, yeah we are. I'm going

1303
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:43,800
to come more packed with more gear this time. Whoa

1304
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,679
out there and see? Honestly, even she did believe it

1305
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,320
or not, she did she like, I would like to

1306
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,840
go take a bunch of thermal cameras and some trail

1307
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,760
cams and see if we can catch anything.

1308
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 2: Good for her. She's a bad ass. So it just

1309
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,519
the two of you to try to replicate the situation.

1310
01:04:58,679 --> 01:05:02,639
Then Okay, that's smart, that's that's very smart.

1311
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,519
Speaker 3: More but with more gear, you know, Yeah, didn't have time.

1312
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,400
Now we will, Because to be honest with you, I

1313
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:15,440
was half serious about doing some big footing. Like the

1314
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,760
other half was like, yes, it's mostly for fun and relaxation,

1315
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:19,559
to show a little bit.

1316
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 4: But the other half was there could be some squatchy

1317
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:22,119
activity there.

1318
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:22,679
Speaker 2: Of course.

1319
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,039
Speaker 4: I was just a hotbed of sasquatch of course.

1320
01:05:26,199 --> 01:05:29,079
Speaker 2: And you mentioned Hawking Hills. How close to Hawking Hills

1321
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:29,840
is this.

1322
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,199
Speaker 4: Place roughly seven miles?

1323
01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's nothing for them, especially if they go

1324
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,239
in and out of portals by the way, exactly Hawking

1325
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,239
Hills and this is like foothills, you.

1326
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:43,519
Speaker 5: Know what I mean?

1327
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is uh, this is like there's a

1328
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,760
lot a lot more caves around than things. Yes, go

1329
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,119
in and see those nasty cave spiders.

1330
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of spiders.

1331
01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: Oh god, neither.

1332
01:05:58,519 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: No.

1333
01:05:59,239 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: I don't understan dand people that go into caves. We

1334
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,400
for one of our shoots for UFOs, we went into

1335
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:10,000
the most legit cave I had ever been in, and

1336
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:15,039
the further in we got there's those damn there's cave crickets,

1337
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:17,360
which are also hideous, but there there were these They

1338
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:19,840
kind of sort of looked more like daddy long legs,

1339
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,440
so they weren't quite as bad, but they were everywhere.

1340
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,239
And I'm just going, this is this is a lot

1341
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:28,679
of nope for me. I think maybe give me the

1342
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:31,119
hadel instead.

1343
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: And weird do it for the weird. We got this.

1344
01:06:34,639 --> 01:06:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't do spiders, man, No.

1345
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,119
Speaker 3: No creepy and out here in these Michigan woods, honestly,

1346
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,320
they're right along the path. So like if your headlamp

1347
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:49,360
is angle just right, you'll see the like the silky

1348
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,159
shine o, you're gonna have them on your face.

1349
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, you're not getting me this time. Used

1350
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,480
to whack it down exactly.

1351
01:06:55,719 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: That's the worst part about squatching in the summertime, all

1352
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:01,719
the spider webs. You're walking through, all your constant peeling

1353
01:07:01,719 --> 01:07:04,719
crap off your face, not thinking about where the spider

1354
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:05,119
might be.

1355
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 4: We're not even going there.

1356
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's if you don't you don't whip them

1357
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:15,000
onto your back because you just walked into that. Except

1358
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:19,840
oh my gosh, well, Scott, make sure to mention any

1359
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,119
of that. You mentioned your Facebook group and all that,

1360
01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:24,239
any of your socials that you want to mention and

1361
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,840
how people can can find you and contact you if

1362
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:27,480
you want.

1363
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 4: That, of course, absolutely.

1364
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 3: I mean I would like to step out and kind

1365
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,280
of branch off into helping people, like anybody that has

1366
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,880
activity but they don't necessarily want to go to like

1367
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,039
a big name team or something to go check it out, cause,

1368
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:43,599
let's let's be honest, a lot of those TV groups

1369
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,079
it's all propaganda, you know, Like.

1370
01:07:47,159 --> 01:07:49,159
Speaker 4: You guys, small town monsters.

1371
01:07:49,199 --> 01:07:52,679
Speaker 3: You guys are freaking awesome because you're bringing the reality

1372
01:07:52,719 --> 01:07:56,440
to the people. It's not like Expedition Bigfoot, where Hollywood

1373
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,039
has a say and we're filming today and filming tomorrow

1374
01:07:59,079 --> 01:08:01,360
and mashing it into one and shoot like I like

1375
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,079
it raw and realistic. You know, you can follow me

1376
01:08:05,239 --> 01:08:09,280
Bald the Bald Philosopher, Yes, the Bald Philosopher eighty five

1377
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,639
on Instagram, and you can follow the Urban Bigfoot Facebook

1378
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:16,520
page and it's public. So just don't bring your shenanigans on,

1379
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,119
but come on in a safe place to tell your

1380
01:08:19,119 --> 01:08:22,239
story and share your evidence and just any questions you

1381
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:22,640
might have.

1382
01:08:23,119 --> 01:08:26,119
Speaker 2: Excellent. I will make sure to link that. And yeah,

1383
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:29,199
I appreciate anything that you felt like sending along. I

1384
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,119
suppose at the very least the portal video and then

1385
01:08:32,159 --> 01:08:34,439
the dog man photo. Those are the big two that

1386
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:35,159
we mentioned.

1387
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:39,079
Speaker 4: I have some great prints too. I'll send you great

1388
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:39,920
print shoots.

1389
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:43,039
Speaker 2: Okay, excellent, Yeah, awesome.

1390
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 4: Thank you so much with the dermal ridges.

1391
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,399
Speaker 2: So where where When are you and your girl going

1392
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,439
back out to that yurt?

1393
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,199
Speaker 4: Probably the next month or so.

1394
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: Woo oh boy mm hmm. Okay, well keep me in

1395
01:08:58,760 --> 01:08:59,880
the loops. God, I got it.

1396
01:09:00,199 --> 01:09:01,079
Speaker 4: What's going on?

1397
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:02,239
Speaker 5: Definite.

1398
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:04,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep in the loop anyway. Me and me

1399
01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:06,600
and Jake, my buddy, we're actually going out there tonight.

1400
01:09:10,119 --> 01:09:14,399
Speaker 4: At school. I'm done. I'm done para professionally until September.

1401
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: Let's go have something is nerd time.

1402
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,119
Speaker 4: We love nerd time.

1403
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 2: We love nerd time. Yes, we don't get enough of that.

1404
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,119
That's why we even just like to talk about this stuff,

1405
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,239
which I would love to have you come back on

1406
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:30,600
for any any updates. I know that you're gonna be

1407
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,560
collecting more encounters and hopefully you have some more of

1408
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,039
your own, but not too terrifying of encounters. We want

1409
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:39,079
you to keep wanting to go back out into the woods,

1410
01:09:39,159 --> 01:09:45,720
right absolutely, Okay, last question? What was that? What did

1411
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:46,079
you say?

1412
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:52,079
Speaker 3: It was something about I'm sorry, I'm.

1413
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,239
Speaker 4: Bad at that too. I'm bad too, you know what

1414
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:54,600
I mean.

1415
01:09:55,279 --> 01:09:57,399
Speaker 2: It helps me in on video, but it's not it's

1416
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,960
not always perfect. But last question, and I know you've

1417
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,000
heard me ask people this, Are you afraid that you

1418
01:10:04,079 --> 01:10:06,640
will have one of those kind of encounters that then

1419
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,439
you don't want to go back out into the woods

1420
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,560
and you don't want to keep asking these kinds of

1421
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,239
questions and collecting these encounters.

1422
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,520
Speaker 4: Not at all. I have zero fear of having one

1423
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:19,279
of those encounters.

1424
01:10:19,279 --> 01:10:21,119
Speaker 3: That's one of those things that I'm not going to

1425
01:10:21,159 --> 01:10:24,640
stress about something that hasn't happened yet. If I do

1426
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,840
have an encounter like that, we'll handle it accordingly, you

1427
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,239
know what I mean. But it's not going to keep

1428
01:10:29,239 --> 01:10:30,720
me out of the field. If anything, it is to

1429
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,520
make me want to get back out there. I mean,

1430
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,560
I'm former military, you know, I have a lot of

1431
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,600
different ideas on things. To me, the scarier that just

1432
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,319
reinforces the fact that they're real. You know, that just

1433
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:45,640
reinforces that something out there you can't explain that you

1434
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,640
don't have a scientific explanation for exists, and you could

1435
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,439
be on its list of foods if you're not careful.

1436
01:10:54,399 --> 01:10:55,520
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

1437
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1438
01:10:57,239 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: Therein lies the problem, right because what yes, but no,

1439
01:11:01,039 --> 01:11:06,159
I respect that answer, and that's certainly my same answer,

1440
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,000
you know, until that happens. I don't get to push

1441
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:12,399
very much because of where I live. But when I

1442
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:16,000
when I do go out, I'm always trying. I do

1443
01:11:16,079 --> 01:11:18,000
hope that something happens.

1444
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, oh for sure. Well, now though, you have

1445
01:11:21,079 --> 01:11:22,880
the possible urbans, so keep your eye out for the

1446
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:23,640
urban stuff too.

1447
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:24,520
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1448
01:11:29,119 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 9: Well, I'm so so.

1449
01:11:30,039 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 4: I was given this name by my parents.

1450
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,119
Speaker 9: My business I was out of college. I've done these

1451
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:38,279
things in my profession. I've producing Little Black says, forget it,

1452
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,680
that's something her story, that's all gone, that's all possible.

1453
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,880
And I want to see the Amelia when nobody knows

1454
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,239
who that is is because we don't.

1455
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,119
Speaker 4: Except for listening from out it.

1456
01:11:58,079 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 9: And something on that is but that that's a really

1457
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,479
but that again, it's as fascinating to this question.

1458
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 2: Who are you?

1459
01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 5: That does not mean.

1460
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 9: We shall see how they play with the success will

1461
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,319
buy the cots to get you to come out of your.

1462
01:12:17,359 --> 01:13:47,520
Speaker 7: Show and find out it'll be really good. Stay stassssssssssssss.

1463
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 10: Specifically, people for example, are quite divided on us.

1464
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 9: They will say, no, we don't believe literally in reincarnation

1465
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:23,920
that after your funeral grow you will sadly become someddly different.

1466
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 5: There being somewhere else.

1467
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 9: They will say, reincarnation means this that if you're sitting

1468
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,680
here now, are really convinced.

1469
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:35,359
Speaker 5: That you're the same person the folding at the door

1470
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:36,279
half an hour.

1471
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:38,359
Speaker 10: Ago, you'll be reincarnated.

1472
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,520
Speaker 9: If you're liberating the wells now.

1473
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:48,239
Speaker 5: That you're done. The past has instant, the future does insistence.

1474
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,960
There is only the present.

1475
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 9: That's the only arenia that is the zen masters don't.

1476
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 5: Get d in the space center. The string does not

1477
01:14:58,840 --> 01:18:06,880
become the sound, because there is something an embrous massas.

1478
01:17:00,039 --> 01:17:02,520
Speaker 9: Where he says, when you settle down in the train

1479
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,199
to read your newspaper, and so you're not the same

1480
01:17:06,279 --> 01:17:11,520
person while ago and live in the plan. If you

1481
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,479
think you are, you are linking your moments up in

1482
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,199
the change. And this is what buyds is the wheel

1483
01:17:19,239 --> 01:17:24,319
of both when you know that every moment which you

1484
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,720
are is the only moment this cons in des are

1485
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:28,880
the last will say.

1486
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,079
Speaker 5: From somebody, I can have a walk across the room.

1487
01:17:32,199 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 9: And he came back, and he says, where are your foot?

1488
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,199
Speaker 5: They've gone?

1489
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:39,319
Speaker 4: So where are you?

1490
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:40,359
Speaker 5: Who are you?

1491
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,039
Speaker 10: When we are asked who we are, we usually give

1492
01:17:44,079 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 9: A kind of recitation of an Instagram stress