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Speaker 1: This is the Political beat Down with Ben Macellis and

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Michael Cohen. Welcome to the show. Here's what we're going

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to discuss on today's live Political Beatdown. Mark Pomerantz, the

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former senior prosecutor on the Manhattan District Attorney team that

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was criminally investigating Donald Trump, has released a new book

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saying that in his view and the view of all

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the other prosecutors he was talking to there other than

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Alvin Bragg, the evidence to criminally prosecute Donald Trump at

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that time was very, very solid. And Michael Cohen, you

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get a mention in that book, A prominent mentioned in

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the book.

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Speaker 2: And more than one, more than one mention there, my friend.

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In fact, about percent of that book is probably written

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about me.

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Speaker 1: I want to get Cohen's reaction to the book, all

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of the references to Cohen, and we also got to

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talk about Cohen. I saw that Rachel Maddow tech takedown

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recently of the former United States Attorney under the Trump administration,

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Jeffrey Berman. I want to get your take on that

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as well, and how all of this is connected. We're

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also going to talk about on this episode how Donald

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Trump and Alina Haba have posted a one million dollar

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bond and filed a notice of appeal to the one

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million dollar sanctions order that was issued against them by

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a federal judge in the Southern District of Florida for

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a frivolous lawsuit they filed back in March of twenty

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twenty two.

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Speaker 3: I also want to.

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Speaker 1: Talk about how very quietly when it comes to at

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least what was being reported by the large media networks,

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not here on the Midas Touch network, but Donald Trump

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lost another big defamation lawsuit. A federal judge in Washington,

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DC dismissed Trump's twenty twenty defamation lawsuit against The Washington

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Post related to two articles that talked about Trump's connections

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with Russi. But what I really want to get from

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Michael Cohen is an inside the look when he was

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there with Trump. What was the strategy behind filing these

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frivolous lawsuits, and what was the overall goal.

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Speaker 3: In doing that. We'll talk about that with Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 1: We've also now learned that during the Trump administration, on

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at least three separate occasions, Chinese spy balloons entered the

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continental United States and were either covered up or went undetected.

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By Donald Trump and his administration. After all, Donald Trump

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is the trader who said that the American troops are

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suckers and losers, and Trump is the moron who said

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he's like just so like smart that he doesn't need

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to read security briefings. And then tonight President Biden will

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deliver the State of the Union address. It will be

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live here on the Midas Touch Network. Pre Coverage begins

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at seven thirty eastern four thirty Pacific, and the State

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of the Union will officially start at nine eastern six Pacific.

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This is the political beatdown. Cohen, how are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 2: You know I'm hanging in there. Every day seems to

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be filled with more excitement, more nonsense, more trump ism,

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trump bullshit, and I do truly believe that that's going

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to actually stop soon. I think that there's a lot

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of things that are going on right now that are

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going to put a it's going to put an end

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to this guy's reign of terror over American democracy.

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Speaker 1: Well, starting with hope and optimism on the political beat

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down as something I think our audience appreciates. But when

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you come with that hope and optimism, what specifically comes

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to mind, right now that gives you that hope and optimism.

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Speaker 2: Well, something I'm going to share with the mightys mighty,

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with the political Beatdown Family. I am scheduled to come

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in tomorrow for my fifteenth appearance with the District Attorney. Now,

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I know this is going to make all sorts of news,

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and I'm sure my phone's gonna start blowing up in

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any second. Now. So many people have already heard about it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's the funny thing, especially when it comes to whether

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it's the District Attorney, the AG's office, the Southern District

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of New York. They all have people inside that office

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that leak in information now, and so I feel it's

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fair that our political Beatdown family should know it as well.

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Tomorrow I am going in to meet with the DA's

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team again for the fifteenth time. And I really do

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believe despite all the hoopla, and it's a very good book.

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I've read part of it already, Mark Pomerantz's book, I

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do believe that Alvin Bragg is serious. I believe that

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whatever occurred in the past is the past, and I

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think he legitimately believes that there is a case to

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be made against Donald Trump. Now of course, we'll see.

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I'll let everybody know on our next live event how

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things went. Obviously I'm just speculating at this moment, but

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once again, it's now the fifteenth time that I'm heading

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in to discuss this and several matters with the DA's

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team tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to it. To be

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Speaker 1: And I know that you can't get into the specifics

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of what's being discussed, but you had told us on

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a prior occasion, though, that you were very impressed with

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Alvin Bragg's team and you had a great deal of

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skepticism after Pomerantz and Carrie Dunn had left the office.

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I would say skepticism would probably be putting it very, very,

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very lightly. But when you met with this new team,

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they gave you a great degree of confidence. And I

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think you even said the same amount of confidence as

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the Pomerants done team in terms of holding Trump accountable.

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Speaker 3: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I said on many different not just here

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on our first episode, which, by the way, thanks to

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all of you, just blew it out of the water.

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I believe we're at number eighteen on all news podcasts

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out there. Thanks to each and every one of you,

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and so I do give the political beatdown family a

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serious thank you on that one. At the end of

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the day, here's the deal. What we're going to see

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is a really qualified team of prosecutors going through all

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of the documents, not just the old documents that were

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left over from the Pomerants and carry Dune days. But

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I believe that there's new information that they've been able

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to acquire. Remember that the DA's office is working in

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tandem with the Attorney General's office. It is the first

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time that I could ever say that two different offices

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are working so closely together in tandem for a single purpose.

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And I do believe that that purpose will I believe

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it will occur. I really do.

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Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things to mention as well,

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get right into it where you are referenced in the

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Mark Pomerantz book. And you know, one of the questions

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that Bill Whittaker of CBS asked Pomerantz in an interview related.

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Speaker 3: To the book was about you.

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Speaker 1: And they said, well, Cohen, you know, was guilty of

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this and that, and so can you trust Cohen as

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a witness? And I think Pomerantz basically said yes again

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because he showed us what the documents were. I mean,

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you know, also you were maliciously prosecuted and sh you

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never have been prosecuted in the first place. The Pomerance

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doesn't go there yet, which I think everyone needs to

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recognize and realize that that is the fact in a

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highly and actually weaponized dj by Trump to go after you.

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Bill Whittaker to Mark Pomerantz about his new book, where

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you are referenced here. Let's play this clip and get

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your reaction to it.

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Speaker 4: But you've told us, I mean, and he admitted Cohen's

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a convicted perjurer.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: So how far can his testimony go?

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Speaker 2: And that's why it was so important for us to

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go to the accounting documents. How do you know he's

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telling the truth? You know it because you see it

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in the documents.

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Speaker 4: He's talking about Donald Trump's accounting documents used to calculate

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the value of the former president's real estate, some of

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which Mark Pomerantz shared with us. He released them after

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they were made public in Letitia James's lawsuit. Attorney Pomerantz

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said he did not share grand jury material with us.

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to property to property. What they had in common was

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that they were dishonest. Cohen, Your reaction, Yeah, My reaction is,

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I truly don't believe that Whittaker read Pomerance's book. I

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think he probably gave it's truly it's not the sixty

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minutes of before. I'm not a big fan of his

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I think he's a buffoon. I think he probably should

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have done a much better job in terms of reading

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the book, basically annotating it the way that Rachel Maddow does,

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whereby she knows everything as well as the writer does.

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He's throwing out all sorts of things. Let me be

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very clear about something and how I believe that he's

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completely inaccurate. First of all, I was not convicted of perjury.

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Let me be very clear. He doesn't even have the

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right charge. I pled guilty. Wasn't convicted. I pled guilty

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to what's called a one thousand and one violation, and specifically,

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the one thousand and one violation states making any materially false, fictitious,

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or fraudulent statement or representation to law enforcement or to

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a Congressional body, and that's what I did. Now. One

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of the other things that I have talked about at

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nauseum is the fact that that statement that I had

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made to Congress my very first time appearing before them

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was done with the assistance of Ivanka and Jared and

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Jay Seculo and Abby Lowell and Tykob and a handful

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of other people. And the goal was to stay on message,

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stay on Donald Trump's message, which is make anything that

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and so instead. And I hope you all remember because

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it's written in my book Revenge, and I do implore

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everyone to read it so that you understand as things

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move forward, where I'm coming from onto it. But one

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of the things I talk about in Revenge is the

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fact that what happened with this specific case is I'm

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the only one that got charged while all of these

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other people were in there assisting me in making this

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materially false statement. It is not perjury, and in fact

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it was It's really not even a relevant charge if

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you think about it. What was the lie. The lie

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was the number of times that I spoke to Donald

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about the failed Trump Tower Moscow real estate project. In

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my statement to Congress, I stated three times. The legitimate

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and the true answer is I spoke to him ten times. Now,

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let's talk about things that are materially false. Let's take

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Supreme Court judges who made materially false statements, especially I'm

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talking out on the report public inside where they stated

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that they would respect starry decisives. Let's talk about George Santos,

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who lies like Donald about everything. Let's talk about Bill Barr,

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And those are material, Those are material statements that have real,

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serious implication and consequences. The fact that I stated three

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versus ten. You know, when you are up against the

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government and they are pressuring you, and they pressure you

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by going after your family. And again, as I stated

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the last time, I love my wife and there was

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no chance in the world that I was going to

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allow these animals to do to her what I knew

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that they were going to do, and that was going

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to indict her, march her out of the apartment with

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me with handcuffs. That was never going to happen. And

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so as Judge Jed Raycoff of the Southern District of

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New York, the same building that prosecuted me. Of course,

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different judge. I wish I had Judge Rakoff take a

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look at his book, Why the Innocent Plead Guilty and

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the Guilty Go Free. All right, let's even talk for

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a split second about Alvin Bragg. Where Alvin Bragg made

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a statement to the voters here in New York that

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he is going to hold those who are rich and

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powerful accountable, no different than anyone else. Well, yes, now

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he's doing it. But the entire Pomerant's book is predicated

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around the fact that he did not, that he elected

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to step away from the case for whatever the reason

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exactly what I do on my other podcast, Mayacopo, what

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I do on television or with the press, where I

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turn around and I speak raw, unfiltered truth to power

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because I don't give a shit, and I will say

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but I don't care because you know why, it's truth.

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Oversight Committee all of the things that are now currently

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pending against Donald Trump, whether it's the inflation and deflation

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of his assets, whether it's the hush money payment, whether

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it's the racism, sexism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, islamophobia, anti semitism,

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whatever was that I said, I asked each and every

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one of you to think for a split second and

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start googling it. Tell me where I made in a statement,

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Tell me where there is a lie. In fact, Moller

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stated that everything I told them, and that was one

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hundred hours. Everything I told them was truthful, accurate, and

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assistive with their investigation. You know who else said the

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same thing, seven or eight different congressional committees. I've never

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been charged with any issue about a misrepresentation, unlike, for example,

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Eric don Ivanka jared this one Donald, All of them,

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they all lied under oath. I did not. Then we

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could turn around and say we saw it last week

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when you guys played that clip. Letitia James credited me

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for the New York Attorney General case currently pending against Trump,

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and so did Pomerance and doun. Believe that everything that

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I told them was truthful because not only were they

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taking my word for it, like I did during the

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House Oversight Committee hearing, I backed every single thing up

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with documentary evidence, end of story.

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Speaker 3: And that's what we do here are the Midas Touch Network,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the difference between a Rachel Maddow interview

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and mostly every other host on a large media networks

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and what we do here on the Midas Touch Network

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versus the host. Here, I want to show you this

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clip from the Maddow Show as well where she talks

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about Jeffrey Berman, and I want to get your reaction

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to it as well. Here, let's play this clip from

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Matdow referencing Jeffrey Berman's book and how Berman admits that

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his prosecutorial ethics were compromised by the fact that main Justice,

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meaning Bill Barr, told him who he should go after.

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In terms of actually weaponizing the Department of Justice. Remember

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everything Donald Trump says is projection. Currently right now with

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Merrick Garland. You could criticize Garland for a lot of

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things for being slow, but is not weaponized. Okay, it

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was weaponized under Trump. Here play this clip.

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Speaker 5: Jeffrey Berman was the US Attorney in SDNY the Federal

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Prosecutor's office in Manhattan while all this was happening, and

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Jeffrey Berman technically was recused from directly overseeing this case,

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the hush money case, because he had been part of

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the Trump campaign before he was appointed US attorney, and

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he thought that might have seemed like a conflict of

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interest given that the case involved fraud allegations about camp

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pain expenditures. So he was technically recused from overseeing the case,

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but he was in charge of the US Attorney's office

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when this case went to court. And in his book,

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in this book Holding the Line that Jeffrey Berman published

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about his time as US Attorney in SDNI, he explains

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in detail that Main Justice under Trump reached into SDNY

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and intervened with the Prosecutor's office in Manhattan to protect

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Speaker 3: He says it explicitly.

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Speaker 5: This is from page twenty four of jeff Berman's book, quote,

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the first time Main Justice interviewed sorry, even though I

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was not overseeing the Cohen case, I still had to

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deal with other issues involving it, all of them deriving

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from the same source Main Justice and its attempts at

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interference The first time Main Justice interfered was when the

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information was being finalized. Information is a term of art

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in this context. After Michael Cohen agreed to plead guilty,

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the charging instrument against him became anation rather than indictment.

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is referencing here. It was an information. It was about

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forty pages long, he says, and it quote reference to

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person identified as Individual one as having acted in concert

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with Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 3: He says, quote.

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Speaker 5: There was zero doubt as to the identity of Individual one.

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It was Donald J.

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Speaker 3: Trump.

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Speaker 5: Berman says, quote, consistent with DOJ guidelines. We first submitted

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the information to the Public Integrity section at Main Justice.

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They signed off. We then sent a copy to the

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Deputy Attorney General at the time, Rod Rosenstein, informing him

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that Cohen's guilty play was imminent. The next day, the

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prosecutor in my office, who was overseeing the case, received

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a call from Rosenstein's principal deputy. He was aggressive, why

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the length he wanted to know? He argued that now

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that Cohen is pleading guilty, we don't need all this

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description of the crime. The prosecutor responded, what exactly are

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you concerned about Rosen's deputy. Rosenstein's deputy proceeded to identify

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specific allegations that he wanted removed from the information. Almost

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all of them were items referencing individual one Donald J.

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Speaker 3: Trump Cohen.

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Speaker 2: Your reaction, Yeah, So my reaction is when I read

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those portions of Jeffrey Berman's book, which I would suggest

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you don't buy because it's bullshit like he is, I

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decided that I think a little payback is probably it's

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probably justified, and so I filed a New York grievance

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a bar grievance complaint against Jeffrey Berman, because my belief

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is that what he did it's not only unethical, it's

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possibly illegal as well. And so I filed this complaint.

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And in the complaint, I did, of course, like everybody,

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an attachment as to why I was filing the complaint,

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and I want to share this with with with the

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group here. By his own admission, Jeffrey Berman, who served

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as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of

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New York from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty, was contacted

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by partisan Justice Department officials who made overtly political demands

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and that the pressure was clearly inspired by the president's

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openly professed wants. This included my criminal case. Now in

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his book, Berman writes, and I quote Trump's Justice Department

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kept demanding that I used my office to aid them politically,

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and I kept declining dot dot dot in ways just

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tactful enough to keep me from being fired. Now, mister Berman,

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despite his self aggrandizing refusal to capitulate to the pressure campaign,

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failed and failed miserably to uphold his ethical and legal

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obligation to report the occurrences. By failing to do so,

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mister Berman deprived me of valuable information that could have

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been used in my defense. So the question of why

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he kept this information to himself and a few insiders

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is obvious and again answered by mister Berman's own words

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and I quote, to keep me from being fired now, That,

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of course, is until the new administration was elected, his

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position terminated, and affording him the opportunity in September of

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twenty twenty two, four years later, to reveal the information

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in a for profit book that is unethical by any

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stretch of the imagination, and so interestingly enough, I am

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using Rachel Maddow's clip and the transcript from it in

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order to explain to the New York Bar Association the

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exact reason why Jeffrey Berman should be reprimanded, disbarred, or

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whatever else that they choose to do. But his actions

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should have consequences. And again it's one of the things

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we constantly talk about on this show and we talk

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about on our other various shows. Everybody needs to be

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held accountable for their own actions, for their dirty deeds.

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Something I've been saying, especially about Donald since day number one.

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The second that you let this power elite to the

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rich off the hook, Lady justice no longer has blindfolds

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on and that is a big problem for the rest

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of us. And that's why one of the things that

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I constantly say, you got to share this podcast and

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others on Midas, Touch, Maya, Kopa, etc. You have to

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share it with your friends. What we need to do

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is to continue every single day to grow this community

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so that our voice cannot be ignored. That come twenty

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twenty four, that we will be a major force to

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reckon with, not just against the Republicans, but for the Democrats.

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It is so vital because if we don't do this,

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things like the end of Roe versus way the things

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like Jeffrey Berman using his office for his own self interest,

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the same thing with Bill Barr, the same thing with

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John Eastman, the same thing with Rudy Kaludi, Drunken Giuliani,

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the same thing with all of them. They all need

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to be held accountable. Otherwise our democracy is not just

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in peril, our democracy will be lost.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've seen Donald Trump recently, though, be held

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accountable by certain federal judges at least who are saying, look, finally,

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finally going, They're saying enough. And you have, for example,

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the federal judge Donald Middlebrooks in the Southern District of

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Florida back on January nineteenth, who sanctioned Donald Trump approximately

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one million dollars as well as Alina Haba for filing

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this frivolous lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and basically half of Washington,

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DC based on these like completely deranged conspiracy theories. The

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judge explained that this was less of a lawsuit and

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more of just like a lunatic airing his political grievances

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that a copy and paste of his social media posts,

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versus any legitimate, credible lawsuit Donald Trump. It was just

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announced along with Alena Haba collectively posted a one million

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dollar bond to stay or temporarily delay the enforcement of

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having to pay the sanctions. They are filing a notice

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of appeal with the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals. The

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Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals, which oversees the Southern District

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of Florida, has not been making very favorable rulings to

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Donald Trump. Recently. They famously ordered the return of the

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immediately return of the classified records to the Department of

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Justice after Judge Eileen Cannon, the corrupt judge Eileen Cannon

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did all of Donald Trump's dirty dealings in that district

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court proceeding after a lawful search warrant was executed, and

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then the Eleventh Circuit overruled Judge Eileen Cannon's corrupt injunction

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order and the appointment of the Special Master. But you

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were there from the inside. I'll talk about this defamation

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lawsuit in a moment that Donald Trump lost, and it's

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not really being reported. And I assume that's part of

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the strategy, because I think what Trump realized that I

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never asked you this before, So this is the first

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time I'm asking you. This is what we talk about

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a lot though on the network. What he realizes, though,

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is that the large media networks, by the way, including

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the ones that he ultimately sues, the sexy headline is

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that he filed this lawsuit, which he then uses to fundraise.

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But then the large media networks don't really report on

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the loss, so it's barely a footnote. So walk us

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through the strategy, because you were there when that strategy

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was being deployed. Is that what was going on?

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Speaker 2: So Donald is very myopic. He's a myopic thinker, and

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what he believes is that if a case is scheduled

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as the case with the Attorney General for October, I

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think it's October, second third of this year. For Donald,

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that's in eternity a way. He doesn't see things the

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way the rest of us do, where you're like, oh

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my gosh, in another eight months, I'm going to be

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on trial that the Attorney General is going to slam

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me to the ground, right, and the base amount she's

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going to accept. The base amount, and I believe it'll

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be much more, is two hundred and fifty million. I

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think the amount is going to come out to somewhere

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in the ballpark of about seven hundred million dollars. So

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Donald's theory, oh, Donald's belief system is that he will delay, delay,

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delay anything that he can, because what does delay do,

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especially when you are as sociopathic as Donald is. What

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it does is it takes out of your mind the

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fact that this cases even there, that's okay, you know,

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I'll deal with that when it comes when I have

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to deal with it, which is what he does all

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the time. So the goal for him again is to delay, delay, delay,

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and hope that he gets a positive outcome. Now, many

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of the cases that Donald has filed has been have

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been frivolous, and so at the end of the day,

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it's not it's not unusual that the judge would then

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sanction both him and Hababa Baba on this who is

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one of the worst lawyers you could ever ever imagine.

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She's actually comical in terms of watching in a room.

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You know, she she thinks she's fantastic when really she's

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just a she's a horrible, horrible lawyer. But putting all

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that aside, and Colin.

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Speaker 1: I just want to I want to interrupt you there.

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It's what makes her more dangerous, I think than the

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one that got farted on by Juliani Jenna Ellis, because

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Jenna Ellis doesn't really pretend to even be all that smart, right,

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Like Jenna Ellis just every haba has this way of

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projecting that she knows what she's talking about, but says

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the wrong thing all the time and does the exact

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opposite we are supposed to do everything.

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Speaker 2: And fights with the judges and fights with counsel, and

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she makes up her own sort of rules and rags.

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In one of the cases that I'm involved, where I'm

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suing Trump, she actually filed emotion. This is great. She

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filed emotion and she signed it as if she was

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the judge. It's one of the funniest things that that

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you could imagine. It is so basic. It was I

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think it was maybe even a subpoena, but she signed

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it as if she was the judge as also counsel

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for the plane. I mean, the whole thing was absolutely

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breathtaking to watch and to laugh about. But going back,

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you know, I just want to touch on one more

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thing in terms of the complaint, because one of the

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things that I intend to do, I intend to hold

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all of these people accountable because by doing that, I

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believe that we can restore the the the sanctity of

477
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the Department of Justice. You know, there are many prosecutors

478
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,960
who are good people. There are many judges who are

479
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,359
good people. But you know, if you have episode that

480
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,880
movie I think it was called like Stand and Standing Bummy,

481
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:20,119
where you had crazy Joe the the principle from the

482
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,799
school in the Bronx, and he turned around and he says,

483
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,640
you know what if you have one bead apple, but

484
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:29,920
instead you have five bad apples, fucking rotten to the core.

485
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,680
This is what happens. You have people like Barr and Trump.

486
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:36,480
You had people like the judge in my case, William H.

487
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:40,839
Pauli the third, you had Jeffrey Berman, Kazami. You had

488
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,920
all of these prosecutors that use my name in the

489
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,039
very first paragraph of their bios. Now they're over it,

490
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,799
like you know, Davis, Paul, Lowenstein, Sandler mcderbott, will and Emery.

491
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,079
They're at Gougenheim Partners. They're all making seven figure salaries

492
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,839
right using this bullshit case that was against me. The

493
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,599
only reason I pled guilty. Remember, folks, I got the

494
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,400
I got the notification on a Friday for the very

495
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,200
first time, the very first time, and again I talked

496
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,400
about this at length and revenge, which is why I'm

497
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,920
hoping that you buy the book so that you understand

498
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,279
where I'm coming from on this. What happened was they called,

499
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,519
they spoke with my lawyer on a Thursday and told

500
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:27,519
him that they that he has until tomorrow, Friday, in

501
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,799
order to meet with them. But I wasn't allowed to

502
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:33,279
be at that meeting, which is unusual in and of itself. Okay,

503
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:35,960
my lawyer says to me, we at least we're getting

504
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,279
a chance to finally speak to them after four and

505
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,559
a half months. Friday, at five point thirty pm, we

506
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,160
get the phone call, turns around and says, if you

507
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,119
don't come in on Monday and plead guilty to charges

508
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:49,480
that they're going to tell you about tomorrow when you

509
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:52,279
see me at eight am in the morning at my office.

510
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,599
They're going to file an eighty page indictment that's going

511
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,359
to include that's going to include your wife. And again,

512
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,640
you know that's that that's my achilles heel. There was

513
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,480
no way that I was going to do knowing that

514
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,559
I am guilty. I am guilty of the campaign finance

515
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,559
violation for Stormy Daniels. Not only did they charge me

516
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,559
with the Stormy Daniels, which was accurate, but they charged

517
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:17,559
me with Karen McDougall as well, which if you google

518
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:20,480
it you will see that David Pecker AMI and the

519
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:23,839
National Inquirer that they're the ones that paid one hundred

520
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,519
and fifty thousand. I just looked at the contract in

521
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,720
order to ensure that Donald was protected in the event

522
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:32,680
that David Pecker ever left the National Inquirer and went

523
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,039
to Time Inc. Where he was supposed to or they

524
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:37,640
were looking at him for the next editor in chief.

525
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,039
These are the problems. This is what happens when you

526
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,799
have a corrupt president with a willing and complicit attorney general.

527
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:48,920
They can take your rights and they can destroy it.

528
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:52,519
And so again I want Jeffrey Berman, and I want

529
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,240
others including it, whether it's any of these other lawyers, Kazamio,

530
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,480
whoever it might be. I want them to be held

531
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:02,039
accountable for their actions, which they should. And so I

532
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,599
just want to just read this one additional paragraph to you,

533
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,839
because I think you'll fully understand the anger and why

534
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,640
I am as angry about this as I am. Mister

535
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,960
Berman's refusal to notify anyone was intentional despite knowing and

536
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,599
acknowledging the improper pressure being applied by Main Justice. In fact,

537
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,680
mister Burman states so in the book, and he writes,

538
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,200
and I quote, I wanted people to understand the full

539
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:32,079
scope of the outrageous and improper political interference by Trump's

540
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Justice Department in the cases of the Southern District of

541
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,039
New York. That demonstrates what Trump is capable of and

542
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:42,920
what he's likely to do right. Mister Berman further states,

543
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,519
and I quote again, and it also provides a frontline

544
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,920
view of just how vulnerable our justice system is. Now,

545
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,960
that's finally a statement by mister Berman that I agree with.

546
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,440
Our justice system is vulnerable because the people like mister Berman,

547
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,640
people who are in power and use that for their

548
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,400
own benefit and their own advancement. That's the problem here.

549
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:07,880
And folks, you know, I'm fighting this fight for all

550
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,079
of us because when they violate my first Amendment, constitutional right,

551
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:16,160
my fourth Amendment, my eighth Amendment, I'm just the first

552
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,000
in the long line of people that they intend to

553
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:22,119
do it to. And so I will continue to fight

554
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,319
every single day. I will continue to cooperate with law enforcement,

555
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,960
with Congress, with whoever asks me. I'm asking them right

556
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:37,519
to ensure that our democracy continues based upon a system

557
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:41,039
whereby justice is blind to us. All that's what I'm

558
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:46,119
asking for. And look, I even asked this new subcommittee

559
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:50,400
that Jim Jordan put together, the Weaponization Subcommittee, one of

560
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,559
the things that we said, and I did it through

561
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:55,640
my lawyer. I have plenty of lawyers going on now

562
00:33:55,839 --> 00:33:58,240
with all these various cases, but this is Jeff Levine.

563
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,519
He's a friend of mine since we're in great school.

564
00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:04,319
So he puts in a letter on my behalf and

565
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:08,519
with me stating that we would like my case, the

566
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,599
United States versus Michael Cohen, to be considered as one

567
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,840
of the cases that this subcommittee is going to look at. Now.

568
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,519
I am hoping, I'm not confident, but I am hopeful

569
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,159
that Jim Jordan's goal is to restore the integrity of

570
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,840
the DOJ and to uncover the weaponization regardless of who

571
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,480
it is, thereby ensuring that this committee is actually a

572
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:38,320
bipartisan committee and not designed for the sole purpose of

573
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,679
going after Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, doctor Fauci, or whoever

574
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,440
else that they have an acts to grind. And why

575
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,400
do I bring this up because this specific instance, is

576
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,679
identical to what I'm doing now with Berman. It's the

577
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,920
same thing. If this is going to be partisan, then

578
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,039
it is. It becomes the kangaroo court, and every single

579
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:04,320
one of us, every single one of us, can be

580
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:08,159
on the wrong side of this, just as I was.

581
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,199
I mean, think about it, this three hundred and sixty

582
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:15,400
million Americans. Somehow all of this bullshit ended up coming together,

583
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:17,760
and I was dead center. I was right at the

584
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,159
epicenter of this which is unjust, unconstitutional, and for the

585
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:26,719
most part illegal, and we all together need to ensure

586
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,880
that this bullshit stops, and it stops today.

587
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: You want to talk about the weaponization of the Department

588
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,920
of Justice under Donald Trump and talk about actually the

589
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:43,639
transparency of the DOJ today. This is also where when

590
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,480
it comes to the Maga Republicans, you know, be careful

591
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:48,760
what you ask for. I don't know if you saw

592
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,000
this Cohen, but of course the MAGA Republicans said, we

593
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:55,920
want information in ongoing criminal investigations, and the Department of

594
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:58,840
Justice said, we'll show you what we're allowed to show you.

595
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,119
But we're the executive branch. We're not going to let

596
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:05,960
you compromise our investigations. But the DOJ in the Office

597
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,880
for the Director of National Intelligence just went to the

598
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,960
Gang of Eight, which is made up of House leaders

599
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,159
and Senate leaders, Democrats and Republicans, and said, we'll brief

600
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:20,039
you on the classified records and the documents that we

601
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,440
found during the search warrant executed at mar A Lago,

602
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:28,360
as well as all of the other documents we obtained

603
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,280
in connection with that investigation. And so you know, the

604
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,320
next thing once the DOJ shows. By the way, I'll

605
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,079
say one other thing though, in the past, when the

606
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:45,559
DOJ has done that and shared information, it was imminently

607
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:47,280
preceding charging decisions.

608
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's what's going.

609
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:53,079
Speaker 1: On here, but they've usually shared it so they depoliticize

610
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:59,079
any actual criminal case being filed. But you know, then

611
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,079
the MAGA republics when they when they see this, they

612
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:05,639
may basically say, oh, it's all manipulated, it's all it's

613
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:09,159
all fake news, it's all whatever. But the DOJ was like,

614
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:10,920
all right, you want you want to see this stuff.

615
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,519
You want to see this stuff, and we'll talk about

616
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:15,519
the spy balloon in a little bit. But it's kind

617
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:18,079
of like, Okay, you know, you're just going to engage

618
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,800
in your performative Maga Republican.

619
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 3: BS, let's tell you the facts.

620
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: You know, with that spy balloon thing where you were

621
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,400
saying Biden was weak, actually immediately Biden put in protocols

622
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,000
in place to address the threat, and then found that

623
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:35,960
there was at least three separate occasions during the Trump

624
00:37:36,039 --> 00:37:39,800
administration where Chinese spy balloons crossed into the continental US.

625
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:43,480
Whether it was incompetence or intentional cover up. The Trump

626
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:47,079
administration did nothing about it, whereas the Biden administration took

627
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:51,480
immediate steps. And then the Maga Republicans immediately go into, oh,

628
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,639
it's the deep state, it's the woke Department of Defense,

629
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,880
you know, and then they go, Democrats are trying to

630
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,320
take away your chocolate milk.

631
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: I don't not lying about that.

632
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,119
Speaker 1: They said that was their new one, that Democrats are

633
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,719
trying to take away your chocolate milk. But it is

634
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,320
be careful what you ask for. DJ said that they

635
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,400
will and the O D and I said, we'll do

636
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,920
a brief with these eight kind of you know, top

637
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:17,039
people in the House and the Senate.

638
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: And so I'm curious, which you think what's going to

639
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:19,960
happen there?

640
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: But he clearly what we know is that you know this.

641
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 3: From his past.

642
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 1: It's all with intent, it's all with malice, like he's

643
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,039
taking these documents not as momento some maybe, but by

644
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:39,800
and large for the transactional purpose of empowering him and

645
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,519
blackmailing people. I mean, isn't that what you expect to

646
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:45,760
find when when we actually learn for sure what these

647
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:46,519
documents were.

648
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:49,519
Speaker 2: Well, I was actually I think the first one who

649
00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:52,119
came out and said, and I think was on MSNBC

650
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,679
with Nicole Wallace when I turned around and said, he

651
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,639
took those for the sole purpose of using is and

652
00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:00,280
get out of jail free card. It's one of two things.

653
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,119
He'll either turn around and say if you indict me,

654
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,159
if you come after my family, if you try to

655
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,119
hurt me. I have, you know, these documents in multiple

656
00:39:09,159 --> 00:39:11,599
places with people who are ready to drop them into

657
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:13,239
the mail, And we're going to drop them in the

658
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,639
mail to Kim Jung Un. We're going to send them

659
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,800
to Mohammad Ben Salman, We're going to send them to Irdawan,

660
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,400
We're going to send them to you know whoever our

661
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,719
you know adversaries are, and so good luck to you

662
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,400
in national security. That's that's the way I see Donald

663
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,960
Trump behaving with some of these documents. Now, you're right,

664
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,840
some of these documents are momentos. For example, his love

665
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,000
letters with Kim Jung un. I mean, in and of itself,

666
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:42,840
it's just like a freaking weird thing for somebody to

667
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,320
say you love letters from, you know, Kim Jong un

668
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,639
to me. I just found the whole thing to be strange.

669
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,920
But at the end of the day, I think he

670
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,280
uses it as a get out of jail free card.

671
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:59,320
And also I wouldn't be shocked if he's financially benefiting

672
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,000
from it. You're right, we will ultimately, I hope one day,

673
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:08,079
ultimately we find out what those documents are. I'll be

674
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:10,519
honest with you, I don't have high hopes for that,

675
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:14,199
only because they're top secret, and so I don't even

676
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:17,920
believe that they will tell you what the overall general

677
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,800
document was even about. Which again, one of the things

678
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,000
that we all look for here, not just on this

679
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,480
you know, political beatdown or any of the minus or

680
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,719
my meacopo or anywhere. One of the things we're looking

681
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,079
for from our from our people, from our government, from

682
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:42,719
our we'll call them, our media, is transparency. We want

683
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,079
to know the truth, because what happens is when you're

684
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:48,679
not given the facts, When you're not given the truth,

685
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:52,280
then the hypotheticals come out, the innuendos come out, the

686
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,760
speculation comes out, and all of that just starts to

687
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,000
run them up, and most of it isn't worth shit.

688
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,440
They're just people making stuff up. Why did they make

689
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,639
it up so that they can say something salacious that'll

690
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:10,280
get them their their bait clicks or clickbaits or whatever

691
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,719
you call that, or get them more attention so that

692
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,800
they'll have their five minutes on cable news or whatnot.

693
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:20,760
This is not what we need. We need facts, No

694
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,079
more alternative facts, but legitimate facts of what's going on now.

695
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:27,079
One of the things that we tried to do is

696
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:31,519
not to insert our personal opinions into it. What I'm

697
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:34,280
trying to do is give you facts that occurred in

698
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,079
the past and to apply them to where we are

699
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:43,119
and what's happening now. That doesn't mean necessarily that I'm

700
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:46,280
going to be one hundred percent accurate, but I do

701
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,079
want to remind everybody that I was the first person

702
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:52,159
who turned around and said that if Donald Trump loses

703
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,599
the presidency, my biggest fear is that he will that

704
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:59,519
there will never be another peaceful transfer of power. Again,

705
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:02,800
I also turned around and I said about fifteen or

706
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,519
twenty other things ranging from his inflation, deflation of the assets, etc.

707
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Which all again turned out to be true. Why because

708
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,159
I know Frankenstein. I know him because unfortunately and stupidly,

709
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,920
I was partially responsible for building Frankenstein. And I do

710
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:24,440
believe that it is my obligation, it is my obligation

711
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:28,320
to ensure that we put Frankenstein back into the box,

712
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:32,440
because if not, I guarantee you that America that we know,

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the America that we grew up to, that we grew

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up with, will not be the America that our children, grandchildren,

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great grandchildren will see. They are already at it in

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order to destroy democracy, to destroy our constitutional rights. And

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you know, one of the things that got Ben and

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I to start this podcast is that we turned around

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and we said, there are things that we can offer

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to the public to our political beat down family. There

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are things that we can offer to you that you

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will not hear on cable news, that you will not

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read in the newspaper. And it's said because again, it's

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all about transparency and that's the one thing that I

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promise you that you're going to get from Ben and

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I here is full transparency.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons too.

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Speaker 1: You talked about the flaws of large media networks, and

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also the way they buy into these labels, the way

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they buy into this idea that there's this is what

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a liberal is, this is what a conservative is. You

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know when they call people like Marjorie Taylor Green and

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Matt Gates conservative, and I say, there's nothing conservative about

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these people. I mean, these are fascists, these are traders.

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Stop calling them conservative. If you lined up my views

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buy and large, I will pretty much check the box

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of someone who is liberal and progressive in a traditional sense.

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But I don't like to identify as that because I

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think I'm more fiscally conservative than any of the MAGA Republicans,

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and I think that I'm in general more conservative in

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the sense that I believe in our democracy. I believe

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the Constitution shouldn't be terminated. I am against election denihilism.

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I believe in free and fair elections. I believe insurrections

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are bad. I believe global pandemics are bad. I believe

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in fighting for the American worker. I believe when it

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comes to the debt ceiling, that American needs to pay

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its bills, especially you know, and frustratingly the bills that were.

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Speaker 3: Created by Maga Republicans.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Trump added twenty five percent to our national debt.

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You want to go back to George W. Bush, you

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want to go back to Ronald Reagan. I mean, they

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were absolute disasters for our national debt and our deficit.

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And it's just facts. It's in the data. So they

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go around and say America first, America first, fiscal conservatives, conservatives,

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fiscal hawks. It's like, all right, less, total bullshit. You're

756
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just saying words, and if you don't scrutinize the words

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and you accept the narratives, you create false dichotomies, which

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result in, for by and large, most people in the

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country who are not so critically focused on the politics

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the way we are and we're trying to make sure

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more people get educated, people believe that that's actually what

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the choice is. When in fact, you want to talk

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about jobs. You want to talk about jobs, jobs, jobs,

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I mean, you're talking about the January jobs report that

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just came out. We're talking about five hundred and seventeen

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thousand new jobs that were created in January alone. We're

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talking about twelve million jobs that were created since Biden

768
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took office. We're talking about the lowest unemployment rate essentially

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in American history or definitely since nineteen sixty nine. I mean,

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we're talking about seven thousand infrastructure projects right now that

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are underway, literally building bridges and paving roads and improving

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and bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States. Right

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You're talking about things like the Chips Act bringing the

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semiconductor industry here. There'll be twenty thousand infrastructure projects in

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the next few months taking place, which is jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: In the MAGA, Republicans they want to talk about all

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this dumb shit, right they want to talk about the

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green eminem this and the purple eminem that the Democrats

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are coming for your gas stoves. And then you got

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you know, DeSantis, even though people don't use gas stoves

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in Florida, I'm I'm going to put a tax exemptions

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on gas stoves. They're trying to take away your stoves,

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you know, just appealing to utter stupidity and perpetuating it.

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The exact opposite of what leadership should be about you

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got Democrats focused on.

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Speaker 3: This is the thing, Like.

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Speaker 1: If even with all, even with all of those accomplishments

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that I mentioned, if Biden were to post one QAnon

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tweet and it turned out that he really sent it,

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you know, or any Democratic leader you know sent one

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q and on tweet. Even with all of those accomplishments

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that I just listed, I could go on and on

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and on talk about lowering prescription drug prices, talking about

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making education more accessible and affordable, lowering the cost of insulin.

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I mean, I could go on and on for days here,

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But one tweet that praised q Andon or that did

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a QAnon mean I'm out.

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Speaker 3: I'm out.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't support that crazy stuff. And on

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the MAGA Republican side, every single day Trump.

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Speaker 3: Posts q and on post.

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Speaker 1: This is actually a death cult. I mean, the whole

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MAGA movement is a death cult. But the large media

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networks present that as a legitimate political party. That's why

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I'm happy we're changing that dynamic here. And you know,

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when we're going to talk about the state of the

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Union tonight, we're going to broadcast that live here on

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00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,880
the Minus Touch network. We have to push back against

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that insanity, those lies the dangerous fascism meets idiocracy. It's

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like a unique strand Cohen, because you know, I think

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the one positive thing, frankly, is that Trump was too

813
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big of an idiot to ultimately implement his fascist designs.

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But each and every day they're still working.

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Speaker 3: To achieve that. And that's why.

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Speaker 1: That's why what we're doing here, the community here, Why

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we need people to subscribe here, why we need people

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to subscribe to the podcast. Wherever you get your audio

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Subscribe to all of the Midas Touch network podcasts. We

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have to build this community. It is existential.

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Speaker 2: But you know something, Ben, one of the bigger problems

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that we have here is yes, I will acknowledge and

824
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you are correct that Trump is an idiot. He's as

825
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dumb as they come. However, what happens when the next

826
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Donald Trump surfaces Let's just call them Ron death Santis, right,

827
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and I say death Santis because of his the way

828
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that he wanted to handle COVID in the state of Florida.

829
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But putting all of that aside, Ron de Santis is

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not stupid. Ron de Santis is actually an incredibly bright

831
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man who is a Donald Trump two point zero. That's

832
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the big problem that we all have to contend with

833
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:49,599
what trump Ism exists, and it is not going away

834
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anytime soon. So we have to be concerned with the

835
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next Donald Trump two point zero, the guy who's smarter, slicker,

836
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,239
and better funded then Donald will be because right now,

837
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my understanding is all of the big GOP donors have

838
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:08,800
all walked away from him in search for somebody else.

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And that's that's one of the things again that we

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talk about. It's why facts matter. No more innuendo facts,

841
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,760
no more opinions, no more alternative facts, only pure facts

842
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,920
in terms of what's wrong, what needs to be fixed,

843
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and what we collectively can do to fix it.

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Speaker 1: Cohen, I couldn't agree more with you.

845
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Speaker 3: What are you looking to hear on tonight's State of

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the Union.

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously Joe Biden needs the whole Democratic Party

848
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and you know, I don't want to be, you know,

849
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critical of the DNC here, but one of the biggest

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problems that Democrats have had for many many years now,

851
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I mean many many years is the fact that the

852
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,599
messaging is really bad, especially in comparison to the Republicans,

853
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regardless of what whether it's predicated on lies or not,

854
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,280
the Democrats have to get the better messaging out if

855
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you ask people, look at what's happening right now. Statistically,

856
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Joe Biden has had the greatest job creation since nineteen

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sixty nine. On top of that, you saw the extrication

858
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of the United States from Afghanistan. On top of that,

859
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you've seen the price of gasoline drop and drop drastically.

860
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You've seen the economy start to make a rebound. You've

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seen the passage of the infrastructure bill. The man has

862
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accomplished quite a bit. Now, if you compare his accomplishments

863
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,480
to the most recent poll that just came out, his

864
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:51,760
unfavorables are incredibly high. They're higher than clearly what they

865
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,760
should be. And why is that Because again, the Republican

866
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,239
narrative is so strong, and they use the media oh

867
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well in terms of promoting this misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, where

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even Democrats are now saying that Joe Biden hasn't accomplished

869
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,440
enough in his first two years. And so I believe

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tonight we're going to see Joe Biden spend an inordinate

871
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amount of time talking about his accomplishments and talking about

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unity and what needs to be done so that we're

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not in the way we were, for example, in the

874
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Civil War, except now it's not black versus white, it's

875
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now Republican versus Democrat, or Democrat versus Republican. And I

876
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think he really needs to hammer home the accomplishments. And

877
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I hate to say something that you don't see ever happen.

878
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:52,119
I believe you have to use visuals. And the reason

879
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I say that is because most Americans, they don't pay

880
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:03,840
attention enough to just what's being said. They need they

881
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,800
need these aids, these tools in order to show them,

882
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,760
and I think some very simple tools in order to

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demonstrate how well the economy is doing right now, how

884
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gas prices have gone down, how you know job numbers

885
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,000
have gone up. Now you can also get a bunch

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of analysts that have come in afterwards and say that,

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you know, having this low unemployment is not good for

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the economy because what it does is it's going to

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00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,239
cause a need for additional interest rate heights, and it's

890
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not going to put an end to inslation. Blah blah blah.

891
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Because these guys know what they're talking about. These are

892
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the same fucking assholes that if you go ahead, you

893
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look at your four oh one K, they're down forty percent.

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So before we listen to them and their stupidity, they're

895
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basically only in it for themselves. And this is another

896
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problem that America is now facing. We need to be

897
00:53:57,199 --> 00:53:59,760
about America, we need to be about each other. And

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it's why again I believe unity is so important. In

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Joe Biden's speech talking about how he's trying to meet

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with you know, Mitch McConnell, how he's trying to meet

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with the Jim Jordans and the Gang of Aid and

902
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so on, how he's trying to meet with everybody so

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that they can do their job. And one of the

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things we all need to again do is we need

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to hammer into the minds of our representatives that we

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00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:31,880
don't work for them, they work for us, and until

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they start to do that, that we're not going to

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support them any longer. And just wait till the next

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election cycle when we're going to vote you out. And

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I don't care who's running against you, because you're not

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acting for the benefit of your constituents. Now again, I

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don't say that to all of them. I'm talking to

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about the ones that we all know that legitimately need

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to go.

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Speaker 1: State of the Union starts this evening at nine eastern

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words before we go.

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Speaker 2: Final words, Stay tuned. We will be back Thursday for

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the next one, where I will be able to give

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you some more inside information on the District Attorney's case,

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how it's proceeding. Won't be able to share with you

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the exact details, but believe me, you will know before

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everybody else. So I wish everybody a wonderful day. Watch

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watch the State of the Union tonight. Make sure that

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you check out Midas's Patreon revenge maya Culpa all of

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tell your friends let's grow this thing to a million

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people on at the same time. What power that would

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give us to effectuate the change that we all want

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and this country desperately needs.

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Speaker 1: This is the political beatdown. Ben Mice Ellis, Michael Cohen.

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Until next time, Shout out to the Midas Mighty