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<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, guess what day it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what day it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh?

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody?

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<v Speaker 5>It's hump Day?

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<v Speaker 2>Up day?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's hump Day, and it is one day closer

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<v Speaker 3>to Kentucky basketball. The Wildcats Friday take the next step

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<v Speaker 3>in the NCAA tournament, you know, taking on those Tennessee Valls.

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<v Speaker 3>Tip off at seven point thirty nine. It's very specific,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet somehow they always manage to make it work.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the Big Moon, Sider to Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 3>on a Wednesday edition of our program. Also, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the day the boys Sweet sixteen begins and we pre record,

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<v Speaker 3>so I can't really tell you what's going on down

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<v Speaker 3>there in terms of the first couple of games. But

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville Saint Xavier sat next scheduled to play this afternoon

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<v Speaker 3>against Jeffersontown. To two Louisville teams taking on each other

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<v Speaker 3>Region six versus Region seven. That has happened before, and

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<v Speaker 3>the cases they would never see this, But when you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of look at it cynically, you say, well, the

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville school's taking care of each other and therefore it

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<v Speaker 3>should help the crowd. So we'll find out, won't we.

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<v Speaker 3>But Sandex apparently is incredible, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to the unforgettable guard Sean Woods about the Sweet sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>and about the Wildcats coming up a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline mccowskis will join us as well to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the UK women's basketball season, and Aaron

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<v Speaker 3>Gershan is going to check in also. He wasn't able

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<v Speaker 3>to join us on Monday night, Aaron of course for

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<v Speaker 3>the Cat's Balls covering the game in Milwaukee. So we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk a lot of Kentucky basketball tonight on the Big

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<v Speaker 3>Blue Insider. The other day game today Bowling Green and

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<v Speaker 3>a Derek County, So KHSA dot org has all the scores.

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<v Speaker 3>Later tonight the Ashland Blazer Tomcats taking on Callaway County.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually the eight thirty game just underway. South Oldham

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<v Speaker 3>and little bitty Danville Christian I think seventy eight students,

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<v Speaker 3>but they've got some foreign imports who have made both

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<v Speaker 3>the girls and the boys teams formidable. They are playing

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<v Speaker 3>south Oldham even as we speak, so we will try

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<v Speaker 3>to keep you up to speed on that as best

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<v Speaker 3>we can. Now. As for the basketball Wildcats, they're getting

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of clock of course because they've made the

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<v Speaker 3>Sweet sixteen, and because of Mark Pope, he has become

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<v Speaker 3>quite the I don't want to say figurehead, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>getting a lot of run right now, and why not

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<v Speaker 3>for the job he's done and the things he does

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<v Speaker 3>and says. You know, obviously we're a little biased over here,

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<v Speaker 3>but he says interesting things. And he appeared on the

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Rome Show I guess it was last night and

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<v Speaker 3>talked about basically team chemistry.

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<v Speaker 6>But how did you get all these new faces to

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<v Speaker 6>buy in and jell as quickly and seemingly as seamously

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<v Speaker 6>as they have.

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<v Speaker 7>I think for us, we were really fortunate and really

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<v Speaker 7>intentional about about about recruiting great human beings, Like Jim,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm telling you, if you got to sit down with

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<v Speaker 7>each of these guys, these are special kids. They're not kids,

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<v Speaker 7>They're special young people. Every single one of them can

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<v Speaker 7>see something more important than themselves in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>Every single one of them has been really intentional about

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<v Speaker 7>getting to know their teammates and loving them and fighting

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<v Speaker 7>for them and plan for them. And so it hasn't

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<v Speaker 7>meant as much what I've done or what our staff

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<v Speaker 7>has done, is what our guys have done working to

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<v Speaker 7>build bonds with each other. That's given us a chance

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<v Speaker 7>to withstand all the adversity that you face during the

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<v Speaker 7>course of a season.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, So, Mark, I buy that. I buy that, especially

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<v Speaker 6>coming from you. But how do you find It's onething

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<v Speaker 6>to find great people. It's one thing to find humble people.

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<v Speaker 6>How do you find great players or very good players

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<v Speaker 6>who are great people and that many of them?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'll tell you what the portal is.

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<v Speaker 8>It gives you a.

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<v Speaker 7>Huge advantage over recruiting high school because you have data

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<v Speaker 7>from college. You have film running like elite level sets

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<v Speaker 7>against elite level defense, doing it over and over and

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<v Speaker 7>over again. You're recruiting guys that aren't just trying to

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<v Speaker 7>learn the college game. They're trying to fine tune the

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<v Speaker 7>college game. So, so finding the right talent, especially for us,

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<v Speaker 7>because we play a unique style. We're very very slanted

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<v Speaker 7>towards a pro style with a ton of movement away

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<v Speaker 7>from the ball, and so because our style of play,

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<v Speaker 7>it's almost easier to go pick out those guys that

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<v Speaker 7>actually have the skill set that translate to what we do.

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<v Speaker 7>And so there's some advantages, some real substantial advantages to

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<v Speaker 7>recruiting guys out of the pool.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Stub's made similar comments when it came to recruiting

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<v Speaker 3>out of the portal. He just said, you have more information,

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<v Speaker 3>you have better information, and therefore it puts you a

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<v Speaker 3>step ahead. Now, you know, he's got to recruit more guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he can take the deep dive

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<v Speaker 3>that Pope does. You know, Popo compared to soups a

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<v Speaker 3>handful of guys. So when it comes to team chemistry,

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<v Speaker 3>you know Stoops may had more challenges than Pope did.

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<v Speaker 3>But Pope put his team together, as you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>such a short amount of time. Interesting that he talked

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<v Speaker 3>about the offense to a Jim Rome there and again

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<v Speaker 3>that was courtesy the Jim Rome Show. That may explain

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<v Speaker 3>why Kentucky was slower coming around on defense because the Wildcats,

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<v Speaker 3>it was clear, were working quite a bit on offense.

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<v Speaker 3>It was working well, wasn't it. They outscored the Florida Gators,

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<v Speaker 3>but they really didn't guard very well, did they. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a stat out there stating that in the first

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<v Speaker 3>in the thirteen games before that Ole Miss game, that

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<v Speaker 3>huge turnaround against ole Miss, when it just looked like

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't even interested in guarding the thirteen games prior

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<v Speaker 3>to that, they were ranked one hundred and fifty ninth

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<v Speaker 3>on defense. In the thirteen games after that rank number ten.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why they have such a big shot against Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only the fact that they know how to beat

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<v Speaker 3>Tennessee clearly, but the fact that they're a better defensive

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<v Speaker 3>team now than they were when they were beating up

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<v Speaker 3>on the volunteers, which I find fascinating. So it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be fun kent Kentucky beat Tennessee for a third time.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people say I'd rather be the team that has

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<v Speaker 3>won the two games than lost the two games. I

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<v Speaker 3>just keep thinking, I cannot get it out of my head,

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky losing to LSU. And this goes back now in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty six. It was the fourth time the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 3>had played the bay U Bengals and missed the chance

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<v Speaker 3>at the Final four because of that loss. But on

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<v Speaker 3>the other hand, you know, Kentucky knows how to get

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<v Speaker 3>it done. And I do believe Kentucky's offense versus Tennessee's

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<v Speaker 3>defense is better than Tennessee's offense versus Kentucky's defense, if

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<v Speaker 3>that makes sense. We'll have it for you right here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a seven thirty nine tip off, and they will

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<v Speaker 3>make it work somehow. On CBS speaking up, Actually TBS,

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<v Speaker 3>speaking of TV. UK Illinois was the highest rated game

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday and this has become one of, if not the

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<v Speaker 3>most watched nca tournament thirty two years. UK Troy highest

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<v Speaker 3>rated game on Friday. So again, if you're a conspiracy theorist,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's fine in some cases, so am I. But

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<v Speaker 3>the NCAA does not want to see Kentucky lose. Officials

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<v Speaker 3>do not get together decide Kentucky should lose. Kentucky brings

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<v Speaker 3>the viewers, brings the eyeballs, therefore brings the money up.

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<v Speaker 3>Next Aaron Gershat of the cash Balls here on six

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<v Speaker 3>thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue and sider

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<v Speaker 3>joining us now is the All American and one of

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<v Speaker 3>the radio voices of the UK Sports Network, Jack Gibbons,

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Leach's broadcast partner on what has turned into Jack,

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<v Speaker 3>just a really terrific basketball season, and I have heap

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<v Speaker 3>praise on you. I think you're doing a wonderful job

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<v Speaker 3>of Tom. And what gets me, Jack is the unmitigated

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<v Speaker 3>joy in your voice when these things are going well

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<v Speaker 3>for the wildcast. You love this for the players, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is so nice. I mean, I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>know these guys, and you know, I'm blessed to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to do what I do, and part of what

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<v Speaker 2>I do is to get to talk to these guys

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<v Speaker 2>and get to know them a little bit off the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we've we've been blessed with some really

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<v Speaker 2>good guys. I mean, we've been fortunate to get them,

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<v Speaker 2>not just this year, but over the last a number

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<v Speaker 2>of years. I mean, good guys. But these guys are special.

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<v Speaker 2>And what makes them special to me is that they

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<v Speaker 2>every one of them, not the young guys, but every

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<v Speaker 2>one of the veterans know this is their last time

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<v Speaker 2>let's go around that tests, man, and they want to

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<v Speaker 2>make the most of it. And they are I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's been fun to get to know him, fun to

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<v Speaker 2>spend time with them, and it's easy when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of really good dudes.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, this team has made so much progress through the season,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think was just inevitable giving the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>these are good basketball players, but the fact that they've

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<v Speaker 3>made such a jump, especially on defense. How much is

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that they are by all accounts, good guys,

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<v Speaker 3>good people. I mean, that was important to Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 3>He really vetted these guys coming through the portal and

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Roberts wrote a tremendous piece about it. Mary Williams

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<v Speaker 3>his recruitment. But how vital is that's kind of an

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<v Speaker 3>obvious question to the process, the improvement process, the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the binding as a team, the fact that they're just

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<v Speaker 3>good dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you think back over the course of this season,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can go all the way back early, the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing was said was these guys are not tough

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<v Speaker 2>enough and people are going to be physical with them. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they addressed it, and they became tougher. They couldn't rebound

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<v Speaker 2>the basketball, Well they addressed it, and now they're good

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<v Speaker 2>rebounding team. Not the best, but they're good rebounding team.

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<v Speaker 2>And especially when it comes to defensive rebounding against some

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<v Speaker 2>of these teams that go and chew up offensive rebounds

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<v Speaker 2>for points. So they got better at that. Then it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, but they can't defend, man, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to stop somebody. And then all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden Mark addresses with the players and now They are

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<v Speaker 2>a really sound, fundamentally sound help and recover defensive teams.

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<v Speaker 2>So every time they faced certain things during the course

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<v Speaker 2>of the year, because they are men, because they are vets,

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<v Speaker 2>because they listen, they've been able to address those issues

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<v Speaker 2>and deal with them.

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<v Speaker 9>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So, this is a this is a trade that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of teams didn't have that we've had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of teams don't have. But it's certainly been good

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<v Speaker 2>for these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>How big a step given how they beat Illinois? They

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<v Speaker 3>did battle him on the boards, they did guard really

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<v Speaker 3>really well. That went over Illinois when Kentucky was really

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<v Speaker 3>an underdog. How big a step was that, Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was. It was huge. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 2>huge for It was huge for the whole entire uh BBN,

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<v Speaker 2>not just the team, but the fans have gotten so

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<v Speaker 2>vested in this ball club. I mean they have and

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<v Speaker 2>then Mark Pope can't can't leave him off the table

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<v Speaker 2>when I talk about this now. I mean they've been

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<v Speaker 2>in it since day one when at the press conference

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<v Speaker 2>and I just thought, Man, I wonder what it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to taste for the fans to really be happy with

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<v Speaker 2>what this team accomplishes. And I thought you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>should have been happy a long time ago because of

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<v Speaker 2>what Mark had, the face coming in the late start,

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<v Speaker 2>all of the stuff, and then to have a team

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<v Speaker 2>that has accomplished what this team has accomplished, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the wins they've had. You know, I thought the fans

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<v Speaker 2>should have been just a static long before now. But

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<v Speaker 2>when you get in the tournament, when you get in

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament, play you ask yourself, Man, I wonder we'll

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<v Speaker 2>win in the first game. Be enough? And it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think people were really really pleased and

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<v Speaker 2>happy and maybe would have been satisfied. But man, getting

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<v Speaker 2>be happy with everything, man, because not many people gave

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<v Speaker 2>us a chance. I mean, you know, it was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>trendy pick to pick Kentucky to get upset in the

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<v Speaker 2>first game. Yeah, a lot of people picked that around

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<v Speaker 2>the country, A lot of people who don't know Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>basketball and the players, but a lot of people picked

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<v Speaker 2>that as a as a bracketbuster, you know. But they responded,

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<v Speaker 2>then they go in the game with Illinois, they were

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<v Speaker 2>not favored. They responded, they won't be favored against Tennessee either,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they've beaten them twice. I mean, they won't

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<v Speaker 2>be favored there, So I say, let's toss it up, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's see what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I keep mentioning this every time I

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<v Speaker 3>get a chance, nobody wants to see Kentucky beat Tennessee more.

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<v Speaker 3>And my guys Jeff Piicoro and Jack Gibbons. You guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you ever talked to Jeff about that, Jack,

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<v Speaker 3>but you guys are in lockstep on that. You were

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<v Speaker 3>all so old school when it comes to Kentucky Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 3>and I kind of like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, some things don't change. I mean, we didn't play

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville back in the day. Tennessee was our rival, and

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<v Speaker 2>what they would beat us, and and and uh they

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<v Speaker 2>had great athletes back in my day, with Ernie and

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<v Speaker 2>Bernie and a number of other really really good players.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, Tennessee is still the team I like

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<v Speaker 2>to beat as much as anybody.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that the players who have played at

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee like I do the guys from Louisville, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily until Louisville's playing US, I really don't uh

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<v Speaker 2>cheer against them because I've got a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 2>who I'm really good friends with their uh so Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, I'm I'm I love playing them and

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<v Speaker 2>I really really enjoyed beating them.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you do. I'm gonna double back to Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>But just uh uh just a completed thought on this

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<v Speaker 3>Kentucky team by the way. Uh yeah, fans should have

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<v Speaker 3>been happy. Well they were. They were happy and relieved

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<v Speaker 3>from Mark Pope after that first win. They were so

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<v Speaker 3>happy for him. But you know it is, man, now

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<v Speaker 3>they're in the sweet sixteen. They can see the finish

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<v Speaker 3>line from here to see it on selection Sunday, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you're right, You're right. So there's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>new level of expectation now, uh with the fans and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and I love it. I love it because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what makes Kentucky basketball Kentucky basketball. I mean, we understand,

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<v Speaker 2>we see it, but man, can we get can you

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<v Speaker 2>just give me a little bit more?

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<v Speaker 4>Please? A little more? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean that's the way we are, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way our fans are. And I get it, so

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<v Speaker 2>uh and I'm and I'm wanting more now, man, this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is a fun ride, and goodness, gracious, I

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<v Speaker 2>get a great seat every night, and I get to

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<v Speaker 2>get to talk about something I love, So I'm wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to keep this thing going.

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<v Speaker 3>Also absolutely talking to Jack Gibbons of the UK radio network,

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<v Speaker 3>the UK All American, we'll call the action along with

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Leach when the Wildcats teed up on Friday night,

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<v Speaker 3>toss it up. I should say, let's talk about how

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<v Speaker 3>they got here, Jack, And obviously it's improved defense. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is a team that a lot of people dismissed

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<v Speaker 3>and really probably going into the tournament as much as

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<v Speaker 3>the Lamont Butler injury as well as the rep they

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<v Speaker 3>had for not being able to guard. But this is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most dramatic turnarounds I can remember, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>ever in Kentucky basketball when it comes to defense, and

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<v Speaker 3>you played for a guy who hammered home defense on

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<v Speaker 3>day one, Mark Pope went about things a little bit differently.

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<v Speaker 3>How surprised are you, Jack, not that they've made the improvement,

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<v Speaker 3>that they've made this much improvement.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, so much of what we do on defense

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<v Speaker 2>is started by Lamont Butler, and the healthier he is,

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<v Speaker 2>the better we are. But back in the season, we

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<v Speaker 2>had Lamont early in the season. We had Lamont, but

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<v Speaker 2>we still weren't stopping teams from scoring. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think back to that where the Florida game was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We won that, But I think back to that Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>game in Lexington. I mean, man, if we just play

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of defense in that game, we win

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<v Speaker 2>that one. And you know, but I think, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can go to one guy, Okay, when I talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the improvement on defense, I can go to one guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go to Kobe Braya. Okay, because back

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<v Speaker 2>earlier on, even though you wanted his production offensive production

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor, there were times you couldn't have him

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<v Speaker 2>out there because he just was He just couldn't keep

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<v Speaker 2>people in front of him. And look at now, Kobe

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<v Speaker 2>is the one guy you can count on for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes in any game. I mean he could and

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<v Speaker 2>right now, he's had some games game where he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>make shots. I mean where shots just weren't falling, but

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't take him off the floor because of his

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<v Speaker 2>defense and what his defense brought to the team. He's

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<v Speaker 2>helping and recovering. Man, He's cutting people off the baseline.

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<v Speaker 2>He's keeping guys who are very mobile guys, those six

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<v Speaker 2>six to six eight guys that are mobile that we

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<v Speaker 2>face every night in the SEC. He's keeping those kind

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<v Speaker 2>of guys in front of him. So early in the

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<v Speaker 2>season you couldn't have him out there because he was

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<v Speaker 2>a liability on defense, and then now here right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't take him off the floor sometimes because the

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<v Speaker 2>team drops off so much defense in a piece not

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<v Speaker 2>out there, So that's that's kind of a I look

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<v Speaker 2>at what the whole team has done defensively, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can point to him individually and talk to you about

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<v Speaker 2>the change that this team has made on that defensive

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<v Speaker 2>end of the floor.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Gibbons is my guest. He is Tom leach broadcast partner,

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<v Speaker 3>of course on the UK radio network Marvel the Goose

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<v Speaker 3>on the way You're on six thirty Wlap'm talking to

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Gibbons. He is, of course Tom Leach's broadcast partner

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<v Speaker 3>on UK basketball, and we urge you to tune them in.

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<v Speaker 3>When the Wildcats tossed it up on Friday night in

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<v Speaker 3>the NCAA tournament, Jack, you know what it's like to

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<v Speaker 3>play in the NCAA. Is you played in three the

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<v Speaker 3>only year you didn't play in the NCAA tournament. You

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<v Speaker 3>won the NIT which was your second year of Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>So that said, the senior year pressure is different than

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<v Speaker 3>any other. And as you pointed out earlier, these guys

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<v Speaker 3>know this is it. They have been brought together and

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<v Speaker 3>they've worked to come together to do something special that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with all due respect, other than LaMarsh Butler,

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<v Speaker 3>they really hadn't done their respective careers. What kind of

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<v Speaker 3>pressure is there on this kid, on these kids, because

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<v Speaker 3>there are different kinds of pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I kind of like the fact, Gabe, that they

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<v Speaker 2>are going into games as underdogs. Okay, even with the

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<v Speaker 2>three seed, they were an underdog against Illinois, okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that actually relieves a lot of the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>that they might have been facing if they came in

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<v Speaker 2>to these games as a favorite. Now because they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been in a lot of games. The games that

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<v Speaker 2>they've played in, I don't know that even that San

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<v Speaker 2>Diego State game, San Diego State team that Lamont Butler

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<v Speaker 2>played on, I don't know that of the first round

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<v Speaker 2>they were even a favorite. You know, So they've been

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<v Speaker 2>they've been used to coming in this thing as the underdog,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I think that release. I mean, just

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<v Speaker 2>think about it. If these guys were a two seed

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<v Speaker 2>and they were six, seven, eight, nine point favored going

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<v Speaker 2>against everybody they play against, I think that would bring

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<v Speaker 2>a whole different pressure than what this team is facing

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<v Speaker 2>that this time. So, I mean it's nice. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's pressure, but the pressure that they have on

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<v Speaker 2>them is a little bit different than the pressures that

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<v Speaker 2>we had as the number one team in the country

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<v Speaker 2>and that you were expected to win. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit different kind of pressure, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>No question, and they can lean on each other. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys could as well, but yeah, it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was almost crushing. Uh, you know the way you guys

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<v Speaker 3>handled that. You know, we talked about Lamont Butler, we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about Kobe brand defense, and I've been saying that

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<v Speaker 3>that Lamont, and it's pretty evident, makes everybody better on offense,

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<v Speaker 3>but also makes everybody better on defense. But you were

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<v Speaker 3>pointing out the other night, uh, And I think I

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<v Speaker 3>heard you talk to Otaga about this on the postgame

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<v Speaker 3>show that with Lamont back, everybody reverts to their natural

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<v Speaker 3>position and Otega doesn't have to be the point guard

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<v Speaker 3>and I think sometimes people forget what kind of pressure

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<v Speaker 3>that brings and what kind of I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>use the word burden, but it's much harder on him

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<v Speaker 3>to be Otega, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a whole different mindset that point guard spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you you can't just put anybody in there

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<v Speaker 2>at the point guard spot and say okay, go out there,

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<v Speaker 2>man and do what Lamont Butler does for exactly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very difficult. And you know, Otega is much better

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<v Speaker 2>coming off the wings, uh as opposed to straight up

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<v Speaker 2>top on that get the offense start kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the biggest thing. Everybody goes back to

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<v Speaker 2>doing their own thing when Lamont Butler is around. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean that you won't put Otega, you won't

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<v Speaker 2>put Amari Williams in that point guard spot and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>get our offense started. That doesn't mean that won't happen

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<v Speaker 2>at times in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it will. It will.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody is just more relaxed, Even the guys coming

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<v Speaker 2>off the bench, who deserve a lot of credit for

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<v Speaker 2>this little late season run, even those guys are are

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<v Speaker 2>more comfortable and more relaxed and can do what they

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<v Speaker 2>do when with Lamont being healthy and guys in their

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I know that you're going to give us a

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<v Speaker 3>complete sky report on Friday, But let me get let

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<v Speaker 3>me turn you loose with this. Should I not be

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<v Speaker 3>super concerned, which I am, about trying to beat Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 3>a really good team for a third time, because so

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<v Speaker 3>many people keep saying, you know, well, they're already proven

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<v Speaker 3>they can beat them. It's almost like they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>dismiss any concerns about that. But Tennessee kids have pride

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<v Speaker 3>and they know what they're doing. They're smart, they'll figure

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<v Speaker 3>things out. But just you know, so well Kentucky, right,

421
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<v Speaker 3>what should I think going into this? Help me? Jack Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Number One, face the fact, Okay, Tennessee is a really,

423
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<v Speaker 2>really good team. I mean that's the first thing we

424
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<v Speaker 2>have to understand. And we know that. I mean, the

425
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky basketball team knows that Tennessee is capable of beating anybody.

426
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, whoever they face. I mean, that's just the fact.

427
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they are that good. For some reason, Kentucky's

428
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<v Speaker 2>been able to match up well against them. And I

429
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<v Speaker 2>think the reason is I mean, if I look back

430
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<v Speaker 2>over the course of the season. The teams Kentucky's had

431
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the most trouble with are teams that have really great athletes, Okay,

432
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<v Speaker 2>really quick, long guys who who can beat you off

433
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<v Speaker 2>the dribble, right, And Tennessee has a couple of those guys,

434
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>but they don't have a team full of those guys,

435
00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:32.880
<v Speaker 2>And we match up better with that kind of team.

436
00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:37.079
<v Speaker 2>So I think you look at the matchup first and

437
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:39.640
<v Speaker 2>you understand that, well, yeah, you know, they're the same,

438
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 2>We're the same. So you know, you go into this

439
00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:47.680
<v Speaker 2>being thinking we've got a chance. Yes we do. And

440
00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I hear a lot of people talking about yeah, but

441
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's hard to beat a team three times

442
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:58.880
<v Speaker 2>in one season. Well, it's hard for you to believe

443
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<v Speaker 2>it for player. For a player, we think we're gonna

444
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<v Speaker 2>win every night out. I don't care if we play

445
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you ten times, we're gonna win. Ask Alabama about playing Kentucky.

446
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they beat us three times, and the last

447
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>time they beat us was the worst they beat us

448
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:21.519
<v Speaker 2>all season long. So the three time situation, that's so

449
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.640
<v Speaker 2>many people the first thing that they want.

450
00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:25.039
<v Speaker 4>To talk about.

451
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's difficult to beat the team isn't It's

452
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>difficult to beat the team this time of the year.

453
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<v Speaker 2>One time, true, I mean one time because everybody's good.

454
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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, you understand it's Tennessee and that's a

455
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<v Speaker 2>plus because you know them. But the fact of the.

456
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<v Speaker 4>Matter is.

457
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<v Speaker 2>It's just another step, man, and keeping this step for

458
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.160
<v Speaker 2>us to keep dancing. I don't care what names on

459
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 2>their jersey. We have to go that way to beat them,

460
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 2>and I think Kentucky has a good chance of doing that.

461
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<v Speaker 3>I do too, well. All right, I feel better. You've

462
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<v Speaker 3>done your job. Thank you, Thank you so much. I

463
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.599
<v Speaker 3>have to thoroughly enjoy listening to you guys this year,

464
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.200
<v Speaker 3>and we'll be listening on Friday. Thank you, brother, have

465
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.000
<v Speaker 3>a great trip, Thank you, and uh bring it home.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Gabe. It's gonna be fun. I'm glad we're

467
00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:17.400
<v Speaker 2>still dancing, and I'm glad this group of guys and

468
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:21.599
<v Speaker 2>this coaching staff is still dancing because we we hit

469
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>the jackpot with this group. Fan they're good, good dudes.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Man, that's right, So are you? Thanks buddy?

471
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 4>All right? Thanks Up.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Next, we'll talk women's basketball with Caroline Makowskis of The

473
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<v Speaker 3>Harold Leader on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

474
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<v Speaker 3>Big Blue Sider. Joining us now in our celebrity Hotline.

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<v Speaker 3>Caroline mccowskis from the Herold Leader who covered a Kentucky

476
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.519
<v Speaker 3>women's basketball game the other day. She's covered the season,

477
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 3>but Caroline, you covered one of the great games I've

478
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.000
<v Speaker 3>ever seen. I'm certain you have as well. Crowd was great,

479
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.480
<v Speaker 3>level of play was great, and what an ending. I

480
00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.160
<v Speaker 3>couldn't ask for much more or less. If you're a

481
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky fan. That last shot to go.

482
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 10>Down, Oh absolutely, that floater there at the end, But

483
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:07.119
<v Speaker 10>of course, who else do you want taking that shot

484
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 10>other than Georgia Aymore. I mean, it was it. Sometimes

485
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.559
<v Speaker 10>they just don't fall. The look was great, she was open,

486
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.400
<v Speaker 10>she had an opportunity, but it was so exciting. It

487
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 10>was one of those that you're so happy to be

488
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 10>in the environment, all the fans. As you mentioned, it

489
00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 10>was just a really crazy, crazy experience. It was so

490
00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:29.119
<v Speaker 10>cool to be there.

491
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<v Speaker 3>And like so many great games like that, there were

492
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.960
<v Speaker 3>so many layers. There were so many momentum changes, and

493
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.680
<v Speaker 3>at one point it looked like Kansas State had and

494
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.839
<v Speaker 3>suddenly Kentucky's got a five point lead. You know, I

495
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 3>mean late, but now you know they for whatever reason,

496
00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 3>they kept losing point extra to three point shooter. They

497
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.720
<v Speaker 3>knocked down two triples. Now they're behind. I mean, it

498
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 3>was just incredible the way it went back and forth.

499
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 10>It was it was you could tell everyone who was

500
00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.079
<v Speaker 10>there really really wanted it, and we all knew it

501
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.400
<v Speaker 10>was going to be a difficult matchup for these two teams.

502
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 10>You got that super experienced post in Aoka Lee over

503
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 10>at Kansas State, who thankfully was able to come back

504
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.640
<v Speaker 10>for the tournament her final tournament. The guard matchups exciting

505
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 10>all over the floor, deadly shooters all over the floor.

506
00:29:19.359 --> 00:29:21.319
<v Speaker 10>So it was kind of a pick your poison situation

507
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.759
<v Speaker 10>I think for both teams, and it's one of those, Ugh,

508
00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 10>somebody's got to lose.

509
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, Clara Strack at a phenomenal game. I think lost

510
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 3>in Kansas State success was Serena Sundell, who had nineteen

511
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 3>points and fourteen assists. I mean she was all over

512
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 3>the place. So yeah, it was that kind of game.

513
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<v Speaker 3>And you mentioned Aoka lead. People don't right to google her. She,

514
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 3>as you know, is the record holder for the single

515
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 3>most points scored in one game. And say women's game

516
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.160
<v Speaker 3>sixty one against Oklahoma. But you know, I don't know

517
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 3>if you're a plus mind this person, Caroline, but she

518
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 3>was minus fifteen aka Leewill. I thought Kentucky did a

519
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 3>fairly good job defending against her.

520
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, I did too. And I talked to Clara

521
00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.960
<v Speaker 10>Strack after the game and I asked her, I was like,

522
00:30:14.039 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 10>you did a pretty good job, you know, in this

523
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 10>matchup that everyone was talking about because of Lee's resume.

524
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 10>You know what was that like for you? She's just

525
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.759
<v Speaker 10>she was excited for the opportunity to match up against

526
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:31.160
<v Speaker 10>someone like that. She said, we knew that the whole

527
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 10>team was going to be a battle, but I knew

528
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 10>that this specifically was going to be a battle against Lee.

529
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.440
<v Speaker 10>And she just had a ton of fun doing it.

530
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she had a better game. Strak had twenty

531
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:44.720
<v Speaker 3>two points to six years off. Really, oh man, and

532
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 3>she's coming back. That's the good news. Absolutely, go ahead.

533
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<v Speaker 10>I just think it's crazy because you look at someone

534
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:58.519
<v Speaker 10>like Clara Strek, of course twenty twenty five, a SDC

535
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:02.519
<v Speaker 10>Defensive Player of Year, and you say, oh my gosh,

536
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:07.039
<v Speaker 10>her patience, her poise, the touch around the rim, she's

537
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.400
<v Speaker 10>got it. And then you remind yourself, Oh she's a sophomore.

538
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 10>Oh she only turns nineteen in November. Yeah, it's really crazy,

539
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.000
<v Speaker 10>but it's encouraging. I would imagine Kentucky fans that's one

540
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 10>of those you know, you're pumped your fist, you're fired

541
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.960
<v Speaker 10>up because Claria Strack is only a sophomore.

542
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, and there are others coming back, of course,

543
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 3>but they had to say goodbye to Georgia anymore after

544
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 3>just the one season. She played all but four seconds

545
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 3>in that game, although there were two Kansas State players

546
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 3>who played all forty five minutes. But Georgia. What did

547
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 3>you think of her response? Somebody asked her about you know,

548
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 3>that last shot not going down, and she said she

549
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 3>didn't want us to define her or basically didn't want

550
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:52.720
<v Speaker 3>to you know, wagh that against five years. I thought

551
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:53.680
<v Speaker 3>that was pretty interesting.

552
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:55.319
<v Speaker 1>It was.

553
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it's a mature answer. It's the way she delivered.

554
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 10>It was kind of a funny answer.

555
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

556
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:06.799
<v Speaker 10>But also, you know, getting to cover Georgia for this season,

557
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 10>just one season.

558
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 8>She's so good.

559
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 10>Was just being able to look at a moment and

560
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.000
<v Speaker 10>boil it down to what it is. Yeah, she doesn't

561
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 10>make it too big you know, she's talked a lot

562
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 10>about I don't let the highs get too high. I

563
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.200
<v Speaker 10>don't get let the lows get too low. And in

564
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 10>five years of the career and obviously everything that came

565
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 10>before it, she is able to step back look at

566
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 10>that shot for what it was a good look that

567
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 10>just didn't happen to Land and know that, hey, I

568
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 10>can be proud of what I did this season. I

569
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 10>can be proud of what I did this game because

570
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 10>she did have a strong game and just let it

571
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.599
<v Speaker 10>be what it is and that's okay. I think that's special.

572
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.559
<v Speaker 3>And then don't get there without her clearly, and then

573
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:56.880
<v Speaker 3>you fold in what she did at Virginia Tech for

574
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:01.680
<v Speaker 3>crying out loud, you know, just a phenomenal, nominal career. Now,

575
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.519
<v Speaker 3>what does Kenny Brooks do? I mean, you don't just

576
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 3>go out and replace Georgia anymore. And I thought, I

577
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 3>think you were there when he was talking early in

578
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.359
<v Speaker 3>the season about scheduling challenges and there was, you know,

579
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>the schedule early in years, you know, kind of lurched

580
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.640
<v Speaker 3>along on some odd days, odd times because they had

581
00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:23.119
<v Speaker 3>trouble scheduling. But he admitted that when people found out

582
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Georgia Aymore transferred to Kentucky. They weren't so eager to

583
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 3>play the Wildcats, you know. But but now you got

584
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.680
<v Speaker 3>to wonder, how do you how do you turn the

585
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 3>reins over to somebody else? You don't have any choice,

586
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>but right.

587
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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, absolutely, And it's funny you mentioned that I had

588
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 10>forgotten about that. I have. I had heard from a

589
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:47.559
<v Speaker 10>few people outside the program that opponents weren't as interested

590
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:50.960
<v Speaker 10>in playing Kenny Brooks and Georgia Aymore and you know,

591
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:55.799
<v Speaker 10>everybody else that came to be on this team. But yeah,

592
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:59.400
<v Speaker 10>what's also interesting about it is Kenny Brooks is not

593
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 10>a plug in and play a guy. You know, He's

594
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 10>said that a million times. But when constructing a roster,

595
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 10>it can't just be oh, this person scores the most

596
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 10>points and they're in the portal. It can't just be oh, yeah,

597
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.320
<v Speaker 10>that person, well, they were an outstanding point guard, you

598
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 10>know at whatever school, in maybe even a power conference.

599
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 10>It's got to fit his system, whatever point guard style

600
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 10>of play. And he also is a developer, so you know,

601
00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 10>if you look down the line, you say, well, in

602
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:35.360
<v Speaker 10>twenty twenty six, they've got Madden Greenway out of Minnesota. Now,

603
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 10>four times state champion with the Providence Academy basketball team.

604
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:43.559
<v Speaker 10>She's coming in, but that's not until twenty twenty six,

605
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 10>twenty twenty seven. And he is someone who likes to

606
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 10>take the time with his players, develop them, give them

607
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.079
<v Speaker 10>a little bit more experience. We saw that with freshman

608
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.559
<v Speaker 10>Lexie Blue this year, who was number forty in the class.

609
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 10>We thought with Clara Silva, who though she did play

610
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.599
<v Speaker 10>in every single game, she's the only person not a

611
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.280
<v Speaker 10>starter to play in every single game in this season.

612
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 10>She didn't have the minutes that maybe some fans were

613
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.239
<v Speaker 10>expecting for a six to seventh center. But it will

614
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 10>have to likely be someone from the transfer portal who

615
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 10>fits in the system. Portal opens this week earlier this week,

616
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 10>and we'll see who enters. We'll see who they can find.

617
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:30.119
<v Speaker 10>But after what he was able to do, he and

618
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 10>his staff were able to do this season out of

619
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:38.400
<v Speaker 10>the portal, I would hope fans are not discouraged by

620
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 10>the fact that they're turning page to a new points right,

621
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:45.519
<v Speaker 10>instead looking at it as what an exciting opportunity. Who's

622
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 10>going to be developed next?

623
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>And you've also got to think there are point guards

624
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 3>out there who of course, noticed that Kenny Brooks won

625
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.440
<v Speaker 3>one of the Coach of the Year awards and saw

626
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 3>how far Kentucky went and clearly charted the progress of

627
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 3>Georgia Amore. And there have to be kids out there thinking, well,

628
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe this is a guy who could take

629
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<v Speaker 3>me to the next level. And I don't know if

630
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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a buyer's marketer or seller's market

631
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<v Speaker 3>in that portal, but you got to like his chances.

632
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 10>Definitely. You know, she has helped put him on the

633
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 10>map when it comes to guard development. I think Liz

634
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:27.000
<v Speaker 10>Kittley and not Clara Strack in terms of post development,

635
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 10>really put him on the map. He had great players

636
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 10>at James Madison, some great players at Virginia Tech. With

637
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.960
<v Speaker 10>those two especially, I mean superstars. And he said it

638
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 10>all season, Georgia Amore has made Kentucky basketball cool. People

639
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 10>are calling, recruits are calling, and he certainly put together

640
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 10>a good resume in year one. And you know, Memorial

641
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 10>post renovation, you've been in there, you knew what the

642
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:59.599
<v Speaker 10>old one was like. That's an exciting environment now that

643
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.360
<v Speaker 10>is in my mind, that's got to be a strong

644
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:04.639
<v Speaker 10>recruiting tool as well.

645
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, yes, absolutely, It's almost palatial, which is

646
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 3>why when Kim Malkey tried to stir things up, aren't

647
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 3>they playing? And rub Areena just, you know, stay in

648
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.760
<v Speaker 3>your lane. I know what she was saying, but stay

649
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:18.920
<v Speaker 3>in your lane. She she doesn't really understand.

650
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 8>I guess I know.

651
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 10>I know what she was saying too. You know, Baylor,

652
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 10>They're they're playing in the same place as the Men

653
00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 10>and at LSU. Everybody's playing at the PMAC. So I

654
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 10>do get it. And it is a good question. It's

655
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.280
<v Speaker 10>a question that I have when I took this job

656
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.920
<v Speaker 10>and I learned a little bit more about Kentucky, but

657
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 10>post renovation especially, and the excitement that was in that

658
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 10>building against Liberty on Friday and against Kansas State on Sunday,

659
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 10>I've never seen it that lively. And I'm hoping that

660
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 10>that is a sign for the future that this community

661
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.559
<v Speaker 10>is going to them out and pack it because that

662
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 10>was a difference maker.

663
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. And you know, I go back to

664
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 3>the Valerie Still era and I have our time remembering

665
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 3>back that far. But because it was bigger back then,

666
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.199
<v Speaker 3>it was harder to you know, take advantage of the noise.

667
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 3>But man, the way it is now such an intimate setting,

668
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 3>it's hard. It's going to be hard to really really

669
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 3>top that or match that. And by the way, two

670
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.960
<v Speaker 3>different coaches women's coaches have told me through the years,

671
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 3>we don't want to play in RUP. We like our home.

672
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.119
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, she is Caroline mccaskis. She covers UK women's

673
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 3>basketball and more for the hero leader in Kentucky Sports.

674
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.039
<v Speaker 3>You can follow her on X or Twitter, whatever you

675
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 3>like to call it at c mcowskas and mak a

676
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 3>u s Kas got it and you'll be glad. Caroline,

677
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:52.039
<v Speaker 3>thank you so much, and we'll see it at the

678
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 3>ball game.

679
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.039
<v Speaker 10>Thank you very much. Have a good one.

680
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 3>And of course, now we find out Clara Strack has

681
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 3>put her name in the transfer portals one big we'll

682
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.639
<v Speaker 3>be leaving. Apparently Kenny Brooks's team I number two is

683
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:07.639
<v Speaker 3>up next with Aaron Gershawn and Sean Woods. We'll be

684
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 3>talking a lot of basketball here on six point thirty

685
00:39:09.880 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 3>seventy or e. Welcome back to the Big Blond Sider

686
00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.199
<v Speaker 3>joining us now as a gentleman. We usually talk to

687
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Garshan on Monday nights. He was traveling back from Milwaukee,

688
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.800
<v Speaker 3>so we're catching up with him. Now, Aaron, tell me

689
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:10.239
<v Speaker 3>a little bit about covering an NCAA tournament with Kentucky involved.

690
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 3>You've done it several times, and Kentucky, in terms of

691
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 3>the crowd, not just the points spread, was the underdog.

692
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.599
<v Speaker 3>There were more Illinois fans there, more orange. What was

693
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:22.039
<v Speaker 3>that like?

694
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that was a first. That was definitely a first.

695
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Now that you're say it, I'm trying to flash back,

696
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 1>but I guess the only other time there were more

697
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky fans, of course, but when we were in Indy

698
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 1>for the Saint Peter's game three years ago, the whole

699
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone that wasn't wearing blue is rooting for sink.

700
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:43.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so you know you had all the other

701
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.039
<v Speaker 1>fan bases that were there, so that was the only one.

702
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 2>But you're right.

703
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 11>It was an Illinois Illinois home game, you know, walking

704
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 11>only three hours from that campus, and I was I

705
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 11>don't know if I was telling you this or if

706
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 11>I was telling other people this, but I went through

707
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 11>the Jimmy Plastic up in up in Manhattan, not this

708
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 11>year but last year, because it was right before Kentucky

709
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:09.119
<v Speaker 11>played in Philadelphia and my brother school SIU was playing

710
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 11>Illinois and Illinois had the garden like seventy percent full

711
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.119
<v Speaker 11>of orange with Yukon and UNC coming in up next.

712
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 11>So this is a fan base that's very passionate and

713
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 11>already close by to Milwaukee. And you know, they made

714
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:27.079
<v Speaker 11>they made it loud and made it a road game.

715
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.079
<v Speaker 11>But you know Kentucky WHI did it well.

716
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And people don't think about Illinois when they think

717
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:38.079
<v Speaker 3>about basketball. Generally, it's football. It's Big ten. They haven't

718
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:40.679
<v Speaker 3>played a lot, but boy, Kentucky and Illinois have played

719
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>significant games against one another, haven't they.

720
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now, Kentucky's won them all five and oh against

721
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Illinois and the NJA tournament. But yeah, they had the

722
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Elite eight game in eighty four near the end of

723
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the Jobey Hall era, and they've had this is the

724
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>fifth tournament game. I think there was a Final four

725
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>in their way back when during the Rough era. So yes,

726
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 1>they've played some significant games and they played you know,

727
00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:06.639
<v Speaker 1>a game that changed the.

728
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Rules in eighty four.

729
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.639
<v Speaker 1>That game was that rough right, right, So.

730
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.920
<v Speaker 3>You're playing its home floor in the NCA tournament. They

731
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 3>also played Louisville Kentucky did so Yeah, So what was

732
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 3>significant in your eyes to the way Kentucky beat Illinois.

733
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Heck, they just beat them wire to wire. I mean, yeah,

734
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess there was a couple of scares here and there.

735
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Illinois got it to three near the end of the

736
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:35.119
<v Speaker 1>first half, and they got it to six there with

737
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.519
<v Speaker 1>like a minute and a half left. But really this

738
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 1>was game. Kentucky was complete and complete controlling. And you know,

739
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 1>you have to start on the defensive end because it's

740
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>just not been Kentucky strong suit almost all year. You know,

741
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:51.559
<v Speaker 1>you go back to the beginning of February after they

742
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Old miss puts a ninety eight on them, and they're

743
00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 1>ranked one hundred and twelveth in defensive efficiency, and you're thinking, oh, no,

744
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like this is going to be as bad as worse

745
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:05.039
<v Speaker 1>defensively than last year, and they're gonna waste this great offense.

746
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 1>And they have made significant strides, and of course Willmont

747
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Butler helps with that, but some of those strides were

748
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 1>made with him sidelined, and that's I think the really

749
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>impressive part. And guys like Kobe branotega Oway have dug

750
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.559
<v Speaker 1>in and played so much better on that end of

751
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the court. And they this is an Illinois offense. And

752
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>we talked about it on the statewide Monday. Why I

753
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 1>really did not like this matchup for Kentucky. That was

754
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:36.079
<v Speaker 1>top fifteen inefficiency. They have three forwards including and Tom Laviysovic,

755
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:37.079
<v Speaker 1>who did have his.

756
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:38.840
<v Speaker 4>Way in this game.

757
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Offensively, that can really shoot the three, and they run

758
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>at a really fast paced that they were the second

759
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 1>highest tempo team in the entire NCAA tournament outside of

760
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Alabama and then Kentucky was third. So it was just

761
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>a matchup that Kentucky has struggled with all year long,

762
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and the fact they were able to hold them to

763
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>seventy five points. You know, the turnovers played a huge

764
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 1>key in it, and some of them were fun forced

765
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and some of them Kentucky made some stellar defensive plays

766
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:12.119
<v Speaker 1>on I finished with fourteen steals. It's unbelievable. But you know,

767
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 1>all that combined held them to I think thirty twenty

768
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 1>eighth twenty nine percent from three. Just a hell of

769
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>a defensive effort. Then you know, they did what they

770
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>had to do offensively. It wasn't you know, they scored

771
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 1>eighty five, so it was actually or a little bit

772
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 1>below I think their season average of eighty six. But

773
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, they made the big shots and they needed to.

774
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Kobe Bray had caught heat there for three four minutes

775
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>where he was unconscious, I'll take it away, fresh off

776
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 1>the bank in the second half, was unconscious. And you know,

777
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 1>they did what they do offensively with a bunch of

778
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>kill like long runs. Both of these games, that's the

779
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 1>big thing. Both the Troy game and the Illinois game,

780
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 1>they had at least five combined ten all runs. And

781
00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:58.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the moralizing to your opponent.

782
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:01.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely, all right. You mentioned the Ole Miss game,

783
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:05.480
<v Speaker 3>and I thought it was so significant where Pope talked

784
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 3>about coming back and you know what, we talked about

785
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:09.960
<v Speaker 3>that game on a state wide show. They were just

786
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 3>weren't even competitive.

787
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was so bad.

788
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really they.

789
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.000
<v Speaker 1>They didn't look I think I put it as they

790
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.159
<v Speaker 1>looked like they wanted to be anywhere else but Oxford.

791
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're right. And yet he said he made it

792
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.400
<v Speaker 3>sound like it was the next day when they got back,

793
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:32.079
<v Speaker 3>and he mentioned Braya specifically just threw literally throwing himself

794
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 3>into the defensive drills. And I do believe that as

795
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.880
<v Speaker 3>great as they are comparatively, speaking with Butler in the lineup,

796
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:45.280
<v Speaker 3>that has been so significant way Brea has has turned

797
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 3>himself into a defender.

798
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.599
<v Speaker 1>What do you think, no question. I mean, look, he's

799
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>not some elite defender, but what he was for a

800
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 1>lot of the year before the old Mysam was almost

801
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>unplayable on that end. And it was because of you know,

802
00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:59.679
<v Speaker 1>Pope was taken him out of games because he had

803
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:03.639
<v Speaker 1>to find some sort of defensive answer. And you know,

804
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 1>that takes off your best three point scoring threat and

805
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the guys now who can get in the lane and

806
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>score too. You're taking away a huge offensive piece because

807
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.280
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't guard. And now that he's become you know,

808
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:18.039
<v Speaker 1>solid and playable on that end of the floor, it

809
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 1>just changes everything for this team. And you know, yeah, yeah,

810
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:24.599
<v Speaker 1>definitely you start you started seeing it pay off against

811
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:27.800
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. Now we knew South Carolina was not a

812
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>very good team, but then I forgot who they played, right,

813
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they played Tennessee. Yeah, they played Tennessee the

814
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:35.079
<v Speaker 1>next game and Pray have played really well defensively and

815
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.239
<v Speaker 1>they held Tennessee three to three from eighteen from three.

816
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's steadily improved on that into the floor

817
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 1>while still maintaining a ridiculous offensive clip. And you know,

818
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.360
<v Speaker 1>it's hard not to say Lamont Butler wasn't the MVP

819
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of that game against Illinois. But you know, Kobe Bray

820
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>has scoring twenty three and playing pretty pretty darn well,

821
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:57.639
<v Speaker 1>and the defensive end is right there with it.

822
00:47:57.719 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, I talked to Billy about this, I've talked to

823
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Jack Givens about it. I thought that play everybody thinks this,

824
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, where Lamont basically snuck up, and it's wasn't

825
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:13.400
<v Speaker 3>the fact that it happened, it's the fact of when

826
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 3>it happened.

827
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, yeah, yeah, the momentum was starting to

828
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:20.159
<v Speaker 1>ship a little bit and Kentucky needed to stop. And

829
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 1>not only did they get to stop, they got it

830
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 1>underneath their own basket.

831
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:26.079
<v Speaker 2>And you know, also got to give credit.

832
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously the mott gets most of the credit for

833
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the steal, but Freddy Harrison that was not an easy

834
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.360
<v Speaker 1>finish in traffic there over Bigsy's brother who's got three

835
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.119
<v Speaker 1>inches on him, and he was able to go up

836
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:41.519
<v Speaker 1>strong and finish, which is not something he's been able

837
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to do at a high rate this season. So yeah,

838
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.119
<v Speaker 1>that was probably to play the game. I think that

839
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>was probably. I know, I think Illinois still ended up

840
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 1>coming back to cut it within six. But that felt

841
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>like it really started to suck the air out of

842
00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 1>any at least in the building. I think Illinois fins

843
00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 1>were about done and given off after that one happened.

844
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.039
<v Speaker 3>Some people are wondering, are concerned or whatever that Travis

845
00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Perry didn't get in at all. He played seven minutes

846
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 3>against Troy. But I never felt like the situation called

847
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 3>from I believe Colin Chandler has probably moved past him

848
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 3>a little bit with what they need on the floor

849
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:22.480
<v Speaker 3>from that position, and the fact that Chandler just hit

850
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:26.519
<v Speaker 3>some no you know, no conscience three makes plays away

851
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:28.320
<v Speaker 3>from the ball. I mean, this kid's coming around at

852
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:28.800
<v Speaker 3>the right time.

853
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Deal.

854
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he's playing. He's playing fantastic. I mean, look,

855
00:49:33.079 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>they're they're You got to go back to the Troy game.

856
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I think we could agree that was not Kentucky did

857
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>not play a great game against Troy. They did on

858
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:42.079
<v Speaker 1>the defensive end, but offensively they were not very good

859
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:44.559
<v Speaker 1>in that game. I think Troy had cut it to

860
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 1>sixth and Kentucky went on that sixteen to oh run,

861
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 1>and nine of those points were Colin Chandler, and five

862
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 1>were running Garretton. So, I mean what Chandler was able

863
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to do to mix it up in that game and

864
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:00.039
<v Speaker 1>get them get things kind of stabilized was huge. And

865
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.519
<v Speaker 1>and then in this game he comes off the bank

866
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:05.039
<v Speaker 1>and hits their first three, you know, after or right

867
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:07.840
<v Speaker 1>before the first TV timeout, and then he pulls up

868
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.679
<v Speaker 1>from the logo no problems, just all playing with such confidence.

869
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 1>And then on the defensive end, which is kind of

870
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.239
<v Speaker 1>where it started for him, right where they go down

871
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.079
<v Speaker 1>to Tennessee at the end of January and they throw

872
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.480
<v Speaker 1>him on chasl Near and we're all thinking, what is

873
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope doing? Is he lost his mind? And he

874
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 1>plays really, really well, and you know, defensively he had

875
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>been making stride for a while as Mark Cope was

876
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.320
<v Speaker 1>just looking for answers on that end of the floor.

877
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 4>And now the.

878
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Offensive game is starting to it's come around as well,

879
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's just to add to what they already have.

880
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 4>Is massive.

881
00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:44.159
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he's definitely more valuable to what they do

882
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.400
<v Speaker 1>right now, unfortunately than Travis Perry. And that's not a

883
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:50.440
<v Speaker 1>knock on him, but they're playing really well defensively. Perry's

884
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.559
<v Speaker 1>still behind in that aspect. I mean, that's Okay, he's

885
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 1>a freshman, he's got weight to add it over the offseason.

886
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 1>All that's all good and well, but you got to

887
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 1>play who's winning you games? And right now, Colin Chandler's

888
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.519
<v Speaker 1>winning your games. And I'll tell you what Trent Noa

889
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:05.599
<v Speaker 1>was making winning play man.

890
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, absolutely, talking to Aaron Gershan of the Cats Pause,

891
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 3>and we'll come back and talk about Kentucky Tennessee in

892
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 3>just a minute here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back.

893
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.360
<v Speaker 3>We're talking with Aaron Gershan of the Cat's Pause. He

894
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.519
<v Speaker 3>covered the Wildcats and Illinois will cover. He's covered the

895
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Wildcats from day one this season and has been covering

896
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky for quite a while, minus the time he spent

897
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 3>exiled up in Evansville, Indiana. But that's okay. Now, I

898
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:33.719
<v Speaker 3>mentioned two weeks ago when you and I were on

899
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.440
<v Speaker 3>the State Wide Show together that a Kentucky Tennessee matchup

900
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:41.119
<v Speaker 3>means Kentucky. Of course, call in that third game. You

901
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:44.800
<v Speaker 3>immediately pointed out to me that, yeah, they already beat

902
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:48.119
<v Speaker 3>him twice, and Ziggler has never played well, or at

903
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:52.400
<v Speaker 3>least not recently against Kentucky. Now, my concern is that

904
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:56.039
<v Speaker 3>somebody finally breaks through. You know what I'm saying, Are

905
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 3>you still comfortable with the notion that they've just got

906
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Tennessee's No, it may just well be a bad matchup

907
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 3>for Tennessee.

908
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I still rather be the team that's won twice. I know,

909
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.400
<v Speaker 1>there's the old adage is it's hard to be the

910
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:11.039
<v Speaker 1>team three times. I'd still rather be Kentucky going into

911
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:13.599
<v Speaker 1>this matchup. I mean, yeah, look Tennessee to go look

912
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 1>at them on the offense, and then they've definitely been

913
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 1>better since the last, you know, the last matchup with Kentucky.

914
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:22.679
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Ganey off the Manchi has had some really big games.

915
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 1>He went for twenty four against Florida in the SEC

916
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 1>title game, but eight of those points did come with

917
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the poul line, so it is important there to look

918
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>at that too. But yeah, Chaslnier has basically drilled shots

919
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.800
<v Speaker 1>on everyone not named Kentucky, and in Kentucky went oh

920
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.880
<v Speaker 1>for seven in Lexington and I think three for eight

921
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:42.400
<v Speaker 1>from three something like.

922
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:43.199
<v Speaker 2>That in Noxenal.

923
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>And really the only guy that's had their way with

924
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky this year has been Igor Milicic, and he's been

925
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the one that's really struggled in this NCAA tournament so

926
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.760
<v Speaker 1>far for them, So it is a matchup I still

927
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 1>like I think Kentucky. If you go watch Tennessee, they're

928
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 1>like the only team that's able maybe Florida two, but

929
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 1>no other team has been able to find these clean,

930
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.719
<v Speaker 1>open looks from three like Kentucky has. And I still

931
00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.320
<v Speaker 1>think there's something to be said for when you play

932
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.519
<v Speaker 1>at Tennessee's tempo, which is the slowest of any team

933
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 1>less than the tournament, one of the slowest in the

934
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:20.760
<v Speaker 1>country or second lowest, Houston slower, and then you play

935
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>a team that's running gone. I just don't think that's

936
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:26.679
<v Speaker 1>easy to adapt to. And look, I think very very

937
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>highly of Tennessee, especially on the defensive end, and they

938
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.199
<v Speaker 1>still you know, Kentucky hasn't cracked eighty against them. It's

939
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.239
<v Speaker 1>not like they've had their two best offensive games of

940
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the year, but they shot fifty percent from three on

941
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty four attempts exactly in both of those games, and

942
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:43.519
<v Speaker 1>they got guys like Trent Noah and Travis Perry having

943
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.119
<v Speaker 1>big games against them. So and you know, we talked

944
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:50.079
<v Speaker 1>about the crowd factor that Orange will get in, but

945
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>this game's right off the road in Indy, and I

946
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>have a feeling you didn't see as many Kentucky fans

947
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.800
<v Speaker 1>in Milwaukee because they won were paranoid after how the

948
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:02.039
<v Speaker 1>last three years have gone first weekend and two this

949
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 1>trip is two hours forty five minutes up the road.

950
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.679
<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I just I don't know. I still

951
00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:11.119
<v Speaker 1>like this matchup. I don't think it's gonna be easy.

952
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be an absolute ward. It's going to

953
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>come down to the end. But I like this matchup,

954
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I really do.

955
00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:20.199
<v Speaker 3>You know what gives me hope and I'm the ultimate

956
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:25.559
<v Speaker 3>pessimist anyway, Yeah, probably I am too. Is the fact

957
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:31.280
<v Speaker 3>that Kentucky beat Tennessee before it went through this defensive transformation,

958
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:32.119
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

959
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:34.320
<v Speaker 8>That's right, That is right.

960
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And look, Lamon Butler was on the floor for half

961
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.119
<v Speaker 1>of one game and not the other one. Yeah, and

962
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.320
<v Speaker 1>they already beat him once without Jackson Robinson.

963
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

964
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.719
<v Speaker 1>So it's just it just feels like Kentucky hasn't even

965
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.199
<v Speaker 1>played their best against them and beat them, and they

966
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.760
<v Speaker 1>still held them the seventy three and sixty five points respectively.

967
00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>So again, you throw those games out a little bit,

968
00:54:57.000 --> 00:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but you look at the matchups and again there's no

969
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:03.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you can contain one the year to

970
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:07.599
<v Speaker 1>under fifteen points. Yeah, I feel really really good. And

971
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you know you expected Igler to do a little bit more,

972
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 1>but you know, he had a pretty good game in Lexington.

973
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he ended up finishing seven for eleven from

974
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the field and Alamant Butler is going to be in

975
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.280
<v Speaker 1>his grill all day, and I just I don't know

976
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be It is not going to be

977
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.079
<v Speaker 1>easy by any means. I think this will be the

978
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.559
<v Speaker 1>tightest of the three games they've played. But I still

979
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 1>like the matchup, I really do.

980
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of matchups, did you get a chance to see

981
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 3>much at all of the Arkansas Saint John's game.

982
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 1>It was during our media of course, they did it

983
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 1>during our media day availability stuff on Saturday, so I

984
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 1>got to see it's in these pieces of it. And yeah,

985
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas's length really looks like it bothers Saint John's. And

986
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Big East was not very good this

987
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 1>year and it showed and there's no Big East teams

988
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 1>left in this tournament.

989
00:55:58.400 --> 00:55:59.920
<v Speaker 4>And you know what's crazy about it.

990
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And I'll give Cal and ark To all the credit

991
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the world for still winning. They give the twenty eight

992
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 1>offensive rebounds and shot two for nineteen from three. Yeah,

993
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's insane. Yeah, and they still want so

994
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 1>a ton of credits.

995
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:13.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and looks couldn't make a shot.

996
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, John couldn't make a shot. And how about

997
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that the three way three, the coaching carousel that put

998
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Callen and Sayville brought Pope to Lex and Kevin Young

999
00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 1>out to BYU and they're all the Sweet sixteen. Everyone's

1000
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:32.400
<v Speaker 1>everyone's going at each other on Twitter. It's a civil

1001
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.679
<v Speaker 1>war or not a civil war. It's a full out

1002
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:39.159
<v Speaker 1>war on Twitter. And after all, everyone's pretty damn happy

1003
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:40.480
<v Speaker 1>leading up to this weekend.

1004
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:42.639
<v Speaker 4>So look who works out.

1005
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Look who Caliperry had to beat to get here, Bill said, yeah,

1006
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:48.719
<v Speaker 3>very impressive. And Rick Patino, But I told Billy on

1007
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:51.599
<v Speaker 3>Monday night, I watched the Saint John's game. I watched

1008
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the second half again like how did this happen? But again,

1009
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 3>I'd watch the entire series on Red Storm. Patino kept saying,

1010
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:03.079
<v Speaker 3>we don't shoot well, and there was a there was

1011
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:06.719
<v Speaker 3>a POSI sixty six sixty four, and Saint John's had

1012
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 3>the basketball and couldn't score, and down the stretch has

1013
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:14.000
<v Speaker 3>shot after shot and couldn't put it in a basket.

1014
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and their Big East Player of the Year was unplayable. Yeah,

1015
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:21.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that when your best player is off,

1016
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 1>especially in the tournament, Yeah, you was very little, very

1017
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:27.239
<v Speaker 1>little chance to win. It's really really hard. I mean

1018
00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:30.039
<v Speaker 1>the only I mean, Anthony Davis was off in the

1019
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:33.199
<v Speaker 1>championship game in twenty twelve, but on defense and rebounding

1020
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 1>it he just couldn't put the ball, just couldn't put

1021
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:37.679
<v Speaker 1>the ball in the hoop. So if you're r J.

1022
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Lewis just wasn't affecting the game much. And that's what

1023
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:42.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what happens. That'd be like if that'd be I

1024
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.519
<v Speaker 1>mean Lamont Butler, Look if they were if he had

1025
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:47.639
<v Speaker 1>the game and he played okay defense against Troy. But

1026
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:49.480
<v Speaker 1>if he had the game he had against Troy in Illinois,

1027
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's on the couch right now. So it's just you

1028
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:56.199
<v Speaker 1>need your best players to show up in those moments.

1029
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 1>And you know that didn't happen for Saint John's.

1030
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, how grateful is the Big Blue Nation that not

1031
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:05.000
<v Speaker 3>only is Butler back, was his brand of defense, but

1032
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 3>that enables Alway to remain at the two or the three.

1033
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Everybody can settle out of their roles.

1034
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:12.119
<v Speaker 8>It is such a man.

1035
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Because it wasn't that long ago. Pope was talking about

1036
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:15.880
<v Speaker 3>the adjustments everybody had to make.

1037
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a mess. It was a mess, guys

1038
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:23.079
<v Speaker 1>playing out a position. I mean, here without your three

1039
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:26.239
<v Speaker 1>lead guards. It's a miracle they were even able to

1040
00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:29.760
<v Speaker 1>win some of the games they did in that predicament.

1041
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:29.960
<v Speaker 4>To begin with.

1042
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 1>So and that's what makes them beating Tennessee down the

1043
00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:35.840
<v Speaker 1>stretch when they were down three and Butler's done and

1044
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Robinson's out and creases out, that all that more impressive.

1045
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, everyone looks so much more comfortable

1046
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's on the floor. And again even in the

1047
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 1>toy game, where I don't think Butler played well at all, honestly,

1048
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 1>it made some nice plays on defense, but nothing special.

1049
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:53.440
<v Speaker 1>He was a plus twenty.

1050
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Two and was the plus minus champ go.

1051
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>So he just he's a winner, man, And he as

1052
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:01.199
<v Speaker 1>soon as that first three in for him, I'm like, OK,

1053
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, here he goes, He's going to have

1054
00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:06.559
<v Speaker 1>a big one. I didn't think he finished in double

1055
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:09.599
<v Speaker 1>figures in the first half, but as soon as that

1056
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:11.719
<v Speaker 1>three went in and I was like, oh boy, here,

1057
00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:14.079
<v Speaker 1>look out if you're Illinois or you're scared right now,

1058
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and then.

1059
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:18.920
<v Speaker 3>The back door steal, I mean, yeah, yeah, he was elite.

1060
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.639
<v Speaker 1>He was elite, and I think he wore different I

1061
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.840
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell, and maybe he got asked, and so that's

1062
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:27.000
<v Speaker 1>why I didn't want to bother asking about it after

1063
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the game. But I think you might have worn a

1064
00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a different break. Think you did that

1065
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 1>helped out.

1066
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:33.079
<v Speaker 3>I think you wore a smaller, lighter one. But what

1067
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.519
<v Speaker 3>do we know? Yeah, we just know that did him

1068
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:38.000
<v Speaker 3>versus Ziggler is going to be fascinating. On Friday, Aaron

1069
00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Gershan will be there and we'll talk with him again

1070
00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:43.119
<v Speaker 3>on Monday on the state Wide Show. Aaron, thanks so

1071
00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:46.360
<v Speaker 3>much once again, safe travels, appreciate you, and you can

1072
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:49.880
<v Speaker 3>follow Aaron on Twitter and the X at a Gershawan

1073
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 3>ninety nine. Up next Shawn Woods, the unforgettable Guard. By

1074
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:56.039
<v Speaker 3>the way, our Western beer chief Gary Moore taken the

1075
00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:59.559
<v Speaker 3>next couple of weeks off. Mister Woods will talk Kentucky basketball,

1076
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:02.199
<v Speaker 3>of course, and the boys Sweet sixteen. Here on six

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01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:04.199
<v Speaker 3>point thirty Welcome back to the Big Blue in Cider.

1078
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:06.840
<v Speaker 3>It is Wednesday. That means we talked to the unforgettable guard,

1079
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:09.679
<v Speaker 3>Sean Woods, who is one of two people on this

1080
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:11.639
<v Speaker 3>radio show who knows what it's like to play in

1081
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.679
<v Speaker 3>the NCAA tournament. I've covered a few, but Shawn's actually

1082
01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:17.920
<v Speaker 3>played in one. But we were talking before went on

1083
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:21.880
<v Speaker 3>the air, Sean about Kentucky. First of all, you were

1084
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.320
<v Speaker 3>publicly saying what a lot of us were thinking privately

1085
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:27.000
<v Speaker 3>a couple of months ago. This team just doesn't guard

1086
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:32.719
<v Speaker 3>very well, and they turned that around so dramatically. I'm wondering,

1087
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:36.079
<v Speaker 3>you know. And obviously having a bunch of veterans helps

1088
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Mark Pope because they know how to be coached and

1089
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.800
<v Speaker 3>how to process what he's teaching them. But the dramatic

1090
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:46.400
<v Speaker 3>turnaround just what your eyeballs show you as well as

1091
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:53.440
<v Speaker 3>the analytics. You're a defensive specialist. That's got to impress you.

1092
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<v Speaker 12>No doubt about it. I mean, they're becoming lock y'all

1093
01:00:57.880 --> 01:01:02.599
<v Speaker 12>pit bullish on the defense then, And the most amazing

1094
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.760
<v Speaker 12>thing is they went from a finesse team on that

1095
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:09.239
<v Speaker 12>side of the ball to becoming bullyish and very physical,

1096
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.440
<v Speaker 12>and that's because they're working on it. That's the only

1097
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 12>thing I can take is they're actually you can just

1098
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:19.639
<v Speaker 12>tell in a team what they work on and what

1099
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:22.840
<v Speaker 12>they don't, and you can tell what was.

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01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 4>A priority.

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01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:28.360
<v Speaker 8>And their priority at the beginning of the year was

1102
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 8>their offense, getting up those shots. That was their main deal,

1103
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 8>thinking that they can outscore people. And then you know,

1104
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:37.679
<v Speaker 8>Mark Pope, being a smart guy that he is, and

1105
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:41.119
<v Speaker 8>his staff, they realized that, hey, we're not going to

1106
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.480
<v Speaker 8>be able to get the thirty thirty.

1107
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:43.760
<v Speaker 4>Three is a game.

1108
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean, this league's too tough defensively, So we got

1109
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:49.079
<v Speaker 8>to join the party if we want to, you know,

1110
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:52.320
<v Speaker 8>stay in the party. And joining the party was becoming

1111
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:56.719
<v Speaker 8>a significant defensive team and having a significant defensive presence.

1112
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:03.159
<v Speaker 8>And you can just tell that that been our priority

1113
01:02:03.199 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 8>about their team, you know that side of the ball,

1114
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:06.239
<v Speaker 8>and it's showing.

1115
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1116
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.880
<v Speaker 3>The thing that jumped out in me when Pope was

1117
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:15.960
<v Speaker 3>talking about their defense after the win over Illinois was communication.

1118
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:19.920
<v Speaker 3>And every coach who's ever laced them up, I mean,

1119
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.559
<v Speaker 3>you've done it, everybody's been there. They always talk about

1120
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:26.559
<v Speaker 3>how vital it is to communicate, and that was pretty evident,

1121
01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 3>wasn't it against Illinois?

1122
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.079
<v Speaker 8>Well, no doubt about it. But see now you got

1123
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:35.519
<v Speaker 8>certain players that didn't play defense, didn't give it up,

1124
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.400
<v Speaker 8>give it up. Now are giving it up on defense.

1125
01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:41.760
<v Speaker 8>You know, bra I didn't play a lot of minutes

1126
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:44.199
<v Speaker 8>at the beginning of the year, even though he's a

1127
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:46.840
<v Speaker 8>prolific scorer, because he wasn't doing what he needs to

1128
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:49.599
<v Speaker 8>do on the defensive end. That's the reason why Mark

1129
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.960
<v Speaker 8>Pope couldn't play him. And guess what, he's our best

1130
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:57.360
<v Speaker 8>offensive player. Yeah yeah, But when your best offensive player

1131
01:02:57.400 --> 01:02:59.800
<v Speaker 8>can only play fifteen to twenty minutes because the defense,

1132
01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:02.360
<v Speaker 8>that is why we struggled. Because he was too good

1133
01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:04.639
<v Speaker 8>offensively not to be on the court. Every time he

1134
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:06.920
<v Speaker 8>came on the court. You think every time he shot

1135
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:08.639
<v Speaker 8>the ball, it was going in, and for.

1136
01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 4>The most part, it does. But you can't get all.

1137
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:15.039
<v Speaker 8>Of that because he wasn't giving it up on the

1138
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:18.480
<v Speaker 8>defensive end. Now he's giving it up on the defensive end.

1139
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.320
<v Speaker 8>Then a couple others you know that weren't buying into

1140
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:25.679
<v Speaker 8>it for whatever reason, they're all buying into it now.

1141
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:29.320
<v Speaker 8>I mean they are connected. You know, they are taking

1142
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:32.639
<v Speaker 8>pride on that side of the ball, and that's the

1143
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:36.119
<v Speaker 8>reason why they they've turned the turned this thing around

1144
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.159
<v Speaker 8>and to be honest with you, Dick, I think Kentucky,

1145
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.519
<v Speaker 8>we're talking about all these other teams in this bracket,

1146
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:45.880
<v Speaker 8>the where they're the where they're succeeded, they're the most

1147
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:48.840
<v Speaker 8>dangerous team in this in their bracket, and they're in

1148
01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:49.679
<v Speaker 8>their in their.

1149
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:53.159
<v Speaker 3>Reasons more than Tennessee, more.

1150
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:56.800
<v Speaker 8>Than Tennessee because I think we have Tennessee's number and

1151
01:03:56.840 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 8>the reason why we have Tennessee's number is because Tennessee

1152
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 8>can't out outscore us no matter what. They're a great

1153
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:07.800
<v Speaker 8>defensive team, but they haven't been able to outscore us. Mean, Kentucky,

1154
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.400
<v Speaker 8>we pose a different type of style of play for them.

1155
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.519
<v Speaker 8>We pose, you know, they guard, but they don't guard

1156
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:18.079
<v Speaker 8>the three well against Kentucky.

1157
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 4>And then because Kentucky.

1158
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.239
<v Speaker 8>Can hit a barajea threes and makes Tennessee get out

1159
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.719
<v Speaker 8>of character and start shooting more threes than they normally

1160
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:30.039
<v Speaker 8>do because they're trying to keep up from a point

1161
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:33.000
<v Speaker 8>standpoint and they can't because they don't shoot it that well,

1162
01:04:33.039 --> 01:04:35.880
<v Speaker 8>and they get away from what they really do, you know,

1163
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 8>instead of just dragging it, getting to the line, getting files,

1164
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.760
<v Speaker 8>spreading you out, getting the ball down low. When they

1165
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:46.760
<v Speaker 8>play against Kentucky, they just lose their minds and just

1166
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:49.880
<v Speaker 8>start doing things that they can't do, and that goes

1167
01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:52.639
<v Speaker 8>to Kentucky. You know, that helps Kentucky out. And I

1168
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:55.280
<v Speaker 8>still think this next game is going to be the

1169
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:55.719
<v Speaker 8>same thing.

1170
01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Wow. I mean, I know they'll try to adjust, which

1171
01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:03.760
<v Speaker 3>they did from game one to game two. But as

1172
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 3>you recall, they lost their minds from the arc and

1173
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:11.519
<v Speaker 3>shot forty five threes that first game and did not

1174
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:14.000
<v Speaker 3>do that the second game. But Kentucky still found a

1175
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:18.920
<v Speaker 3>way to beat him. I do subscribe to the theory that.

1176
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:20.559
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, the second game he only shot

1177
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.519
<v Speaker 3>eighteenth threes and still lost. It's so hard to beat

1178
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:27.320
<v Speaker 3>a team, you know, not just three times, but two times,

1179
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:31.159
<v Speaker 3>much less three. But like you said, it's a bad

1180
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:32.440
<v Speaker 3>matchup for Tennessee.

1181
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:38.239
<v Speaker 8>It's a bad And then Tennessee's point guard, which got

1182
01:05:38.320 --> 01:05:42.199
<v Speaker 8>defensive player of the year in the SEC, it's not

1183
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:45.480
<v Speaker 8>the defensive player of the year. The defensive player of

1184
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:47.880
<v Speaker 8>the year just to get played had to miss a

1185
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:51.719
<v Speaker 8>few games because of the shoulder. Yes, that's Lamont Butler, right,

1186
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:56.079
<v Speaker 8>and their point guard can't bully Leamont Butler.

1187
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

1188
01:05:57.719 --> 01:05:59.400
<v Speaker 4>And mount Butler is going to.

1189
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:03.920
<v Speaker 8>Win that that that deal every single game, and that's

1190
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 8>the reason why they can't get it because Lamont Butler

1191
01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:10.199
<v Speaker 8>does not let him dominate the game like he normally

1192
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:11.360
<v Speaker 8>does against everyone else.

1193
01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:15.079
<v Speaker 3>And him in the game means otega Oway can stay

1194
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:17.639
<v Speaker 3>at the two or the three and people don't have

1195
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:21.360
<v Speaker 3>to start shifting positions. Again, that's huge, isn't it exactly?

1196
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:24.519
<v Speaker 8>I Mean, we all know la Mott Butler's not healthy,

1197
01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:27.639
<v Speaker 8>but we know the Mont Butler being in the game

1198
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:33.960
<v Speaker 8>gives us a magnificent chance of winning. So just stay

1199
01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:35.800
<v Speaker 8>out of the way, Lamont. You don't have to reach,

1200
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:40.519
<v Speaker 8>move your feet, dominate the other team's guard, just physically

1201
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:42.679
<v Speaker 8>with your body and not your arm and your shoulder.

1202
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:44.239
<v Speaker 4>And let's get this.

1203
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:46.400
<v Speaker 8>Tennessee win again for the third time, and let's go

1204
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:47.079
<v Speaker 8>to the final eight.

1205
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Butler zero for five, scoreless against Troy. Excuse me, did

1206
01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 3>have three assists, but they were able to take care

1207
01:06:56.039 --> 01:06:59.199
<v Speaker 3>of Troy no problem. And then I think he makes

1208
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:02.079
<v Speaker 3>the play of the game against Illinois. I said this

1209
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:06.519
<v Speaker 3>a couple of times when Illinois had momentum. Kentucky misses

1210
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:09.280
<v Speaker 3>a shot up ten Illinois is about to take it

1211
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:12.360
<v Speaker 3>down and go go down on and he sneaks f

1212
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.320
<v Speaker 3>in from behind and steals it. That to me was

1213
01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:17.400
<v Speaker 3>a palpable shift. Did you see it that way?

1214
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:20.920
<v Speaker 8>Those are the plays that nobody else, no guard on

1215
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:23.119
<v Speaker 8>this Kentucky team, can make. And that's the reason why

1216
01:07:23.159 --> 01:07:28.079
<v Speaker 8>he's so significant, because he does things that coaches can't teach.

1217
01:07:28.280 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you know.

1218
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:35.199
<v Speaker 8>He he dominates the game with things that just don't

1219
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.079
<v Speaker 8>stop and show up in the stat sheet. And that's

1220
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:39.840
<v Speaker 8>the reason why he's one of the top point I.

1221
01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 4>Still think he's still one of the.

1222
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:45.400
<v Speaker 8>Most dangerous point guards in America question and without even

1223
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:47.599
<v Speaker 8>having to score, because he can just do so many

1224
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:50.880
<v Speaker 8>things to help his team win, and that's what the

1225
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:51.880
<v Speaker 8>point id's supposed to do.

1226
01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I think another big plus for Kentucky, and he gets

1227
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:58.079
<v Speaker 3>some run on TV a little bit, is Andrew Carr

1228
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:04.800
<v Speaker 3>because I think when he's playing alongside Williams or Garrison,

1229
01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:08.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, he just provides that added measure of d

1230
01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:10.519
<v Speaker 3>I think his defense has improved. You can tell me

1231
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:12.960
<v Speaker 3>if I'm wrong, but I think his defense has improved.

1232
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:16.479
<v Speaker 3>And he's a veteran player, and he's got long arms

1233
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:18.880
<v Speaker 3>just like a Maris, just like Garrison. So and he

1234
01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:22.000
<v Speaker 3>only had what a couple of rebounds, but he affected

1235
01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:24.399
<v Speaker 3>a lot of plays in the paint. I just think

1236
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:28.399
<v Speaker 3>the one two punch of Kentucky's post player and Andrew

1237
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Carr is a real matchup issue for a lot of people.

1238
01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:36.039
<v Speaker 8>I think I agree with you, Dick, but I think

1239
01:08:36.079 --> 01:08:40.279
<v Speaker 8>he's he's more of a matchup problem on the offensive

1240
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 8>end more so than.

1241
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:42.039
<v Speaker 4>A defensive end.

1242
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1243
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.960
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because when he's playing the four, most fours aren't

1244
01:08:45.960 --> 01:08:50.199
<v Speaker 8>as big, and they post him up on that little

1245
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:52.720
<v Speaker 8>curl cut and it's unstoppable.

1246
01:08:52.880 --> 01:08:55.319
<v Speaker 4>And then his length, you.

1247
01:08:55.239 --> 01:08:57.399
<v Speaker 8>Know what I'm saying, when he's garden another four. You know,

1248
01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.520
<v Speaker 8>he's sixty nine to sixteen and he's garden fowards that

1249
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:04.760
<v Speaker 8>are six six sixty seven. And so his his lot,

1250
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.560
<v Speaker 8>his his his length bothers people.

1251
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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:10.800
<v Speaker 8>And then he he's a he's a tough matchup too.

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01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:11.800
<v Speaker 4>On the offensive end.

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01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 8>I mean he's becoming more aggressive. I think he's healthier now,

1255
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:17.520
<v Speaker 8>he's getting a little guy a little more popping his step.

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01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:20.600
<v Speaker 4>He's becoming more athletic because of his back. His back's

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01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:21.119
<v Speaker 4>thet better.

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<v Speaker 8>So I just think this team right now, you know,

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01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:32.560
<v Speaker 8>they got seven or eight guys that can really really play.

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01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:36.760
<v Speaker 8>And then shoot, how about how about the one kid

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01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:40.520
<v Speaker 8>from b YU who who's starting to, you know, contribute

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01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:41.039
<v Speaker 8>a little bit.

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01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:43.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, and then.

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01:09:43.439 --> 01:09:46.159
<v Speaker 8>You got you got the hollering, you know, the hollering

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01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.439
<v Speaker 8>of Fashin that's just coming in and and and and

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01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 8>and giving you whatever he needs. You know, he's getting

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01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:55.439
<v Speaker 8>on a back cut, he's making a three. He's trying

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01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:58.159
<v Speaker 8>to compete as much as he can, even though he's

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01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.720
<v Speaker 8>not laterally quick. But he's compete, yes, Dick, And that's

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01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:04.479
<v Speaker 8>the difference. When you compete no matter how loudly quick

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01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:07.600
<v Speaker 8>you are, that's all that's needed. And he's doing the

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01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:10.560
<v Speaker 8>better job of that. He's playing angry, you know, he's

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01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:12.800
<v Speaker 8>not getting up and just getting straight bline to the

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01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 8>basketa like he was. So I'm telling you right now,

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01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:18.680
<v Speaker 8>man Mark Pope and his staff has done a great

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01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:23.439
<v Speaker 8>job of making adjustments and making defense a priority, knowing

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01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:27.000
<v Speaker 8>that you gotta have stability on that side of the

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01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:27.840
<v Speaker 8>floor to have.

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01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:29.439
<v Speaker 4>A chain, especially in that sec.

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<v Speaker 8>Jergernot not only that, but also in this NTAA tournament,

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01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:34.560
<v Speaker 8>he is Sean.

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01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Woods, the unforgettable guard. We will talk more with Sean

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01:10:36.960 --> 01:10:38.680
<v Speaker 3>on the other side of the break because the Sweet

1284
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:41.199
<v Speaker 3>sixteen is here. Back in a minute on the Big

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01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Bloon Sider six thirty Wlap Welcome back. We're talking with

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01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:47.159
<v Speaker 3>the unforgettable guard Sean Woods. His jersey hangs in the

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01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:50.960
<v Speaker 3>raptors of Ruppwood just so happens to be where the

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01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 3>boy Sweet sixteen is happening this week. And Sean, you've

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01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:59.199
<v Speaker 3>been covering high school basketball on TV side all year long.

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01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:03.359
<v Speaker 3>You told me so gosh two months ago. How good

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01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Saint X is. I hate to say it being a

1292
01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Trinity shamrock, but give them their due. Have not lost

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01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:12.960
<v Speaker 3>to a team from the state of Kentucky. But my

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01:11:13.119 --> 01:11:14.840
<v Speaker 3>question is, can anybody knock them off?

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01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:20.319
<v Speaker 8>From what I've seen, Dick, from what I've seen now,

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01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:21.720
<v Speaker 8>I don't think so.

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01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:25.239
<v Speaker 4>I just think they're just they're two.

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01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:31.119
<v Speaker 8>They are high octane offensive basketball juggernaut for a high

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01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:34.279
<v Speaker 8>school basketball team in the state of Kentucky. I think

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01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:37.039
<v Speaker 8>they from from from I mean, I think they're deep.

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01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:41.159
<v Speaker 8>I think every position they can be a threat to score.

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01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:43.960
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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01:11:44.039 --> 01:11:48.279
<v Speaker 8>I like great crossing, you know, but I just don't

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01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:52.359
<v Speaker 8>think great crossing is explosive enough to stay with a

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01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.479
<v Speaker 8>Saint X I mean these I mean they they beat

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01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:58.279
<v Speaker 8>Doug Douglas, and I thought Douglas was one of the

1307
01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:00.680
<v Speaker 8>strong routinees, especially from the defense in events.

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01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 4>They just went through Douglas earlier in the year.

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01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:07.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you know, I just you know, Malachi is going

1310
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.079
<v Speaker 8>to have to in his stay. I mean his his

1311
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:15.359
<v Speaker 8>guys are really going to have to step up because

1312
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 8>this team is is really, really, really good.

1313
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:18.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about this.

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01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:20.560
<v Speaker 8>Not only days the number one team in the state,

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01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:22.279
<v Speaker 8>they're top twenty five in the country.

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01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Yes, well they haven't. They have lost anybody in the state.

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01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:31.800
<v Speaker 8>No, and and and and to my knowledge, not too

1318
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:35.920
<v Speaker 8>many games have been close unless they fall in their faith,

1319
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:41.279
<v Speaker 8>you know, and and and get that that that that

1320
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:43.800
<v Speaker 8>that sweet sixteen curse. You know, and you're the number

1321
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:47.039
<v Speaker 8>one seed. I just don't see it. I don't.

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01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:48.039
<v Speaker 4>I just don't see it.

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01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:51.600
<v Speaker 8>I mean, yeah, the eleventh region was the most competitive

1324
01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:54.039
<v Speaker 8>region in the in the country, I mean in the state.

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01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:56.800
<v Speaker 4>But still the number one team in the state.

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01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:59.479
<v Speaker 8>Was was was A was the Saint next?

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01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting that Danville Christian comes out of the boys

1328
01:13:05.199 --> 01:13:08.720
<v Speaker 3>regional tournament. They won the girls regional title. That's the

1329
01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:12.760
<v Speaker 3>tiny school that just started playing sports not too long ago.

1330
01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:15.800
<v Speaker 3>They've got some foreign imports who were making it tough

1331
01:13:16.279 --> 01:13:19.359
<v Speaker 3>in that region. I'm curious to see where that program

1332
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:19.880
<v Speaker 3>ends up.

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01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:24.600
<v Speaker 8>Well, you know that coach has done both coaches, men

1334
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:28.880
<v Speaker 8>and women, have done a good job of getting some

1335
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:32.399
<v Speaker 8>young talent in there and to where they can be

1336
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:36.000
<v Speaker 8>a significant you know, make a significant impact early. And

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01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:37.840
<v Speaker 8>they did that. You know, they did a good job

1338
01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:41.960
<v Speaker 8>of getting some kids to transfer over. They got the girls,

1339
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:43.520
<v Speaker 8>got to do some great young girls.

1340
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:45.880
<v Speaker 4>That's you know, eighth grade is coming up. That's really

1341
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:46.439
<v Speaker 4>really good.

1342
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:49.520
<v Speaker 8>And this men's team is I'll tell you what they're.

1343
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:51.560
<v Speaker 4>They're they're they're forced to be reckoned with.

1344
01:13:51.600 --> 01:13:54.039
<v Speaker 8>I don't think they're quite as good can get through

1345
01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:58.239
<v Speaker 8>sat X or you know somebody like that. But they

1346
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:00.239
<v Speaker 8>they have done a great job. I'll tell you what

1347
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:04.680
<v Speaker 8>I saw probably the best high school game I had

1348
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:07.600
<v Speaker 8>every I thought the Brian Station Douglas and the Brand

1349
01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:13.359
<v Speaker 8>I mean the Brian Station against Malachi and then Douglas

1350
01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:15.520
<v Speaker 8>against Malakay. I thought those are the two best games

1351
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:18.039
<v Speaker 8>I'd seen all year. I got to take it back,

1352
01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:21.880
<v Speaker 8>Clark County and Montgomery County was the best basketball game.

1353
01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:22.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, all year.

1354
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:24.359
<v Speaker 3>In the regional finals, that was crazy.

1355
01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:27.640
<v Speaker 8>Best basketball game I have seen. Yeah, that was, oh

1356
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.079
<v Speaker 8>my gosh.

1357
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Last second shot to get to the.

1358
01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:38.720
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's like I said, you what, Montgomery County has

1359
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:43.520
<v Speaker 9>a freshman Dick who I see if he can continue

1360
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:48.520
<v Speaker 9>to get better to be wearing the big blue one day.

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01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:53.039
<v Speaker 8>They got they kind of they got some players, you know,

1362
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:56.680
<v Speaker 8>and that rivalry, you know, has been a long rivalry

1363
01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:02.079
<v Speaker 8>and it was true to to the corps. Yeh last

1364
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:03.399
<v Speaker 8>week in that regional finals.

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01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:07.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You know, you've got an interesting situation coming out

1366
01:15:07.079 --> 01:15:10.640
<v Speaker 3>of the fifteenth region. You've got a super super region

1367
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:14.359
<v Speaker 3>format or something like that what they're calling it. You

1368
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:16.840
<v Speaker 3>don't have enough schools over there. You know, you've only

1369
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:21.359
<v Speaker 3>got you've only got fourteen high schools in Region fifteen.

1370
01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:24.479
<v Speaker 3>You know, you had thirty two in nineteen sixty and

1371
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:28.760
<v Speaker 3>it just keeps dwindling population consolidation. So now they've got

1372
01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:33.560
<v Speaker 3>a super regional format. Lawrence County lost their district tournament

1373
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:37.880
<v Speaker 3>opener to Prestonsburg, but still they're in the regional tournament.

1374
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:40.560
<v Speaker 3>He bounce back and win it. You got to worry

1375
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:42.159
<v Speaker 3>for a situation like that, don't you.

1376
01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:44.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you do you do.

1377
01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.479
<v Speaker 8>And for whatever reason, people are moving away in that

1378
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:49.880
<v Speaker 8>area or whatever.

1379
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:52.520
<v Speaker 3>But they got Connor. Yeah, sure, yeah.

1380
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:56.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's just like where I'm from, Eachicago, Indiana. You

1381
01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:59.720
<v Speaker 8>know where Junior Bridgeman was from. Also, god rest is

1382
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:02.359
<v Speaker 8>so went to his funeral the other day. But it's

1383
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:04.560
<v Speaker 8>the same thing. You know, the steel mills were booming

1384
01:16:04.560 --> 01:16:06.800
<v Speaker 8>back in the day, you know, and that region was

1385
01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:10.199
<v Speaker 8>had a significant impact on Indiana.

1386
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:10.920
<v Speaker 4>High school basketball.

1387
01:16:11.079 --> 01:16:15.279
<v Speaker 8>Now you know, there's the Gary Roosevelts are not not

1388
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:19.800
<v Speaker 8>there anymore, the the lou Wallace's, you know, it's only

1389
01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:22.600
<v Speaker 8>Gary West Side the only public school now, the Horseman

1390
01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:26.880
<v Speaker 8>the Works, they're not there. The East Icugo, Roosevelt, East Cargo, Washington's,

1391
01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:29.680
<v Speaker 8>they're not there anymore. They're having highs to come having Central.

1392
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:35.359
<v Speaker 8>Everybody's consolidated because the lack of of of kids, and

1393
01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:38.279
<v Speaker 8>and and and the popular popularity I mean, i mean

1394
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:42.079
<v Speaker 8>the population is joing them because you know, the steel mills.

1395
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Are doing the w Yeah, and you know, we've talked

1396
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:47.359
<v Speaker 3>about this for years, just you know, basketball fans and

1397
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:49.800
<v Speaker 3>wondering what's happening to high school basketball in the state

1398
01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:52.600
<v Speaker 3>of Kentucky and consolidation has got a lot to do

1399
01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:56.880
<v Speaker 3>with that obviously, yes, because if you had four schools

1400
01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the consolidated the one, you go from sixty potentially you know,

1401
01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:05.479
<v Speaker 3>kids playing ball, let's say four fifteen man rosters down

1402
01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:09.800
<v Speaker 3>to one, you know, so you just don't have the population.

1403
01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:13.319
<v Speaker 8>No, And then there was said it takes away rivalry,

1404
01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:16.720
<v Speaker 8>which made people want to go to games, and now

1405
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:20.760
<v Speaker 8>there's no rivalry. So guess what, nobody goes to games. Yeah, yeah,

1406
01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:24.920
<v Speaker 8>you know, and that's tough, you know. And then it's

1407
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:26.479
<v Speaker 8>dueling around to where.

1408
01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:28.359
<v Speaker 4>That affects the state.

1409
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:32.840
<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, yeah, you know, to where high school basketball

1410
01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:34.840
<v Speaker 8>and you can tell that high school basketball in the

1411
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:37.479
<v Speaker 8>state Kentucky is doing them just because all you got

1412
01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:39.640
<v Speaker 8>to do is go to the Indiana Kentucky All Star Game.

1413
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Man, you know, and that's a travesty.

1414
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:43.439
<v Speaker 9>You know.

1415
01:17:43.479 --> 01:17:47.199
<v Speaker 8>I was so heartbroken because I participated in that and

1416
01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:49.199
<v Speaker 8>we all Kentucky Indiana.

1417
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:50.359
<v Speaker 4>That was a priderful thing.

1418
01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:53.000
<v Speaker 8>That was like a Badger barn Banks in Indiana Kentucky

1419
01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:56.119
<v Speaker 8>All Star Game. You got guys, now the top players

1420
01:17:56.119 --> 01:17:57.920
<v Speaker 8>in the state that are bypassing that game.

1421
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Hey man, I covered Dirk Minifield versus Isaiah and that

1422
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:07.760
<v Speaker 3>was such a hot rivalry that there were two Kentucky

1423
01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Indiana two all Stars. Should say Kentucky All Star Game

1424
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:13.880
<v Speaker 3>and you know two Derby Classics. I should say, uh

1425
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.000
<v Speaker 3>And that just tells you where we were with high

1426
01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:19.119
<v Speaker 3>school basketball back then. But uh, yeah, we could talk

1427
01:18:19.159 --> 01:18:22.199
<v Speaker 3>about this all night. And I worry for the crowds

1428
01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:25.199
<v Speaker 3>at the Sweet sixteen because the Louisville schools aren't going

1429
01:18:25.239 --> 01:18:28.279
<v Speaker 3>to bring a whole lot because they're small. Danville Christian's

1430
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:30.920
<v Speaker 3>not going to bring a big crowd. But you better

1431
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:35.000
<v Speaker 3>know that when Great Crossing plays in Rupperina Thursday night,

1432
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:36.720
<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be a crowd, isn't there.

1433
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.239
<v Speaker 8>Well, Scott Kenny's gonna be in there, gonna be in there, hippo.

1434
01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.159
<v Speaker 8>You know, even the people that don't go to Great

1435
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:46.920
<v Speaker 8>Crossing because Scott Canty still has great pride even though

1436
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:50.479
<v Speaker 8>Great Crossing is the new school. Scott Canny wants to

1437
01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:52.319
<v Speaker 8>be a player, that's right, and Scott County and the

1438
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:53.199
<v Speaker 8>near future.

1439
01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Will be a great player.

1440
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:56.760
<v Speaker 3>But uh, and you're gonna have Kentucky fans when it

1441
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.680
<v Speaker 3>comes to Malachi exactly.

1442
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:02.079
<v Speaker 8>Oh, you know you're gonna see that and that's gonna

1443
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:03.800
<v Speaker 8>be big time. You know what I'm saying, because now

1444
01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:07.039
<v Speaker 8>he's the only thing, only catch, you know, because he's

1445
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:10.560
<v Speaker 8>he's going to Kentucky, and I hope I hope they

1446
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:12.680
<v Speaker 8>don't get upset or whatever and make it all the

1447
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:16.640
<v Speaker 8>way to the finals from a crowd standpoint, because you

1448
01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:19.520
<v Speaker 8>know every time he plays, it's gonna be mussy TV.

1449
01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:22.520
<v Speaker 3>He's got Davis County and then the winner of Henderson

1450
01:19:22.560 --> 01:19:26.039
<v Speaker 3>County and Cooper to get the Saturday, so Ruther Friday.

1451
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:28.800
<v Speaker 3>So we'll keep you posting, coach. Thanks so much to

1452
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:29.800
<v Speaker 3>you at the ball games.

1453
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:31.800
<v Speaker 4>We'll do I appreciate it, Dick.

1454
01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll see him the next day.

1455
01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:34.840
<v Speaker 3>So and that'll do it for now. Thanks so much

1456
01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:36.840
<v Speaker 3>to my guess. That's a good night from the garage

1457
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:37.600
<v Speaker 3>in Lexington.

1458
01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:41.239
<v Speaker 8>Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around

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<v Speaker 8>once in a while.

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<v Speaker 5>You could miss it. Oh at.

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<v Speaker 13>Such tact stating doing anything anything anna.

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<v Speaker 9>Change?

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<v Speaker 13>Then left don't have to back them from type, don't
