Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of March
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, we're continuing with Lost, Season two, episode fourteen.
Speaker 1: One of them where on this island that is so
Speaker 1: remote nobody can tell where it is? Out of nowhere?
Speaker 1: There's a new character.
Speaker 3: Hey, you guy, what's up? He got there by a balloon?
Speaker 1: He says, Yes, this place is remarkably populated for a
Speaker 1: deserted island.
Speaker 3: Right, he says, I've been here for four months, like, okay,
Speaker 3: where exactly how big is this place?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, but something fishy?
Speaker 1: Yeah you think so?
Speaker 3: Do you?
Speaker 1: Are you on team Danielle and said that he is
Speaker 1: another and he will lie on, lie and lie, or
Speaker 1: on team Jack who thinks that they're crazy, or just
Speaker 1: Locke who is mostly concerned with hitting the damn button.
Speaker 1: And well he should because what when it didn't like
Speaker 1: it sounded like that magnet was powering up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then it was like hieroglyphics, yeah,
Speaker 2: coming up on the screen.
Speaker 3: So that seemed concerning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, but what do we think about Henry Gale?
Speaker 1: Legit or no?
Speaker 3: I don't think legit.
Speaker 2: I don't think he legitimately.
Speaker 1: It is ranch dressing that's good for seven years temperature.
Speaker 1: They could have tried to feed him. That would be
Speaker 1: the torture. We have this jar. It's been sitting at
Speaker 1: the jungle for eight years. I still I am sure
Speaker 1: it's try. I'll tell you everything made me eat that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't buy his stupid balloon story. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: come up with something else. He's like, well, we've had
Speaker 2: a ship, we've had a small plane, we've had a
Speaker 2: big plane. We need something else.
Speaker 3: No, I don't believe it. You believe it.
Speaker 2: I mean, he I agree, he was convincing, but yeah no, yeah,
Speaker 2: but then you're in the position of, like, as a parent,
Speaker 2: you know your kid is lying, and you're just gonna
Speaker 2: be like, tell me the truth. I know you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, it never works to be like, did you,
Speaker 2: you know, take this item that you weren't supposed to have,
Speaker 2: Like of course they're just going to say no, you know,
Speaker 2: you have to approach it different. But don't pull out
Speaker 2: their fingernails. Okay, no, don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, torture doesn't seem to be working too well anyway,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you do not surely do.
Speaker 3: Not endorse that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the lying is always a thing with kids.
Speaker 1: There's a thing called crazy lying with some kids neurological
Speaker 1: disabilities have feel alcohol especially, and it's just where they
Speaker 1: kind of lose track of the truth. So they but
Speaker 1: the person in front of them wants them to say something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they just say something, right, and then they're in trouble,
Speaker 1: but they don't know what the truth is at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so you have to be a little sympathetic, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, you really need to.
Speaker 2: Know right, So, but you can cannot ask a dirt quish.
Speaker 2: It's not how you get to the truth. You got
Speaker 2: to start by asking them if they've ever buried a
Speaker 2: body and how many shovels of dirt did it take.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was a convincing a little bit there, because yes,
Speaker 1: you know, he has recent experience of bearing a loved one,
Speaker 1: and so feels like you would know if you too
Speaker 1: had recent experience.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But that was tense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not like there was any relief in
Speaker 2: the flashbacks because no.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But and then I didn't realize until reading the recap that,
Speaker 2: like I knew I recognized some of the the guys
Speaker 2: in uh Iraq, and one of them was Kaid's dad
Speaker 2: or her yes, stepdad or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes. I only realized that was him when he was
Speaker 1: looking at a picture of a girl and I thought, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. I remember he was in this one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember reading that he was in this one.
Speaker 3: I knew he looked familiar, but I wouldn't have figured
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 2: It's almost as if these people were all destined to
Speaker 2: meet in some way. Is almost they're all connected somehow.
Speaker 3: I'm starting to get that feeling.
Speaker 1: Interesting interested there is there is another connection there that
Speaker 1: we won't know about for a while. Okay, it is true. Yes, everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody seems to be connected with everybody in some way.
Speaker 1: Right that's uh, yeah, I feel like we kind of didn't.
Speaker 1: Did we not have the SAYI torturing people's story before?
Speaker 1: I guess not. Maybe he just said this is how
Speaker 1: he became a torturer.
Speaker 3: But yeah, right, I think.
Speaker 1: You could just sit by the by the fire and
Speaker 1: tell Charlie that story and that would be it. Poor Charlie.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, he's out of the sawyer frying pan
Speaker 1: into the said fire. Yes, like somebody please please give
Speaker 1: this guy a batter ranch dressing and give him a
Speaker 1: break some chips A.
Speaker 2: Tense times, Yeah we did. I mean, thank goodness for
Speaker 2: the ranch dressing for a moment.
Speaker 1: Of that whole uh, that whole humorous subplot ends with
Speaker 1: sawyer squashing of frogs, Yes exactly, although that frog was
Speaker 1: super annoying. How could that frog be so small and
Speaker 1: so far away?
Speaker 2: And yes, are we sure it doesn't have friends?
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. It's it's if I had a
Speaker 1: chance to squashed the bird that goes sits outside my
Speaker 1: window and goes chop.
Speaker 2: Chop.
Speaker 1: I might be tempted. I think I would just like to,
Speaker 1: you know, relocate him to another place. I bare him
Speaker 1: no violent ill will, but I want him very badly
Speaker 1: to shut up him or her. Yes by the high
Speaker 1: school chirpet people, sir, But kids in their classrooms, Yeah.
Speaker 3: They would enjoy that distraction.
Speaker 1: So loud, so loud, and so forceful, just like a
Speaker 1: not like the I mean, the tree frog at least
Speaker 1: had multiple sounds. This bird just sits there and does charp,
Speaker 1: and there's a weight. You have to wait for it
Speaker 1: to come again. You know it's coming.
Speaker 3: Again, coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that would have been a funner subplot
Speaker 1: if he had just let herlely relocate the frog at
Speaker 1: the end. But I guess nothing good happens on this island.
Speaker 1: I wonder what that frog was doing in another life
Speaker 1: that it went, oh dear, probably did something.
Speaker 3: Yep, we may we may never know.
Speaker 1: It was carried by a bird and dropped on the island.
Speaker 1: Or it had its own little balloon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the balloon. The balloon story is really what.
Speaker 2: I am pretty gullible. I believe a lot of things,
Speaker 2: but not that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is also the matter. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is a spoiler, although it shouldn't be. Is the
Speaker 1: name Henry Gale ring any bells to you?
Speaker 3: Yes, I know.
Speaker 2: That it well, I didn't get it until I read
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: But but Wizard of Oz with all the whiz stuff
Speaker 1: and the wizard, Yes, you may have.
Speaker 3: Some Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 2: That was the name of Dorothy's family, Gail, and there
Speaker 2: was an uncle Henry and yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so could also be suspicious. Could also just be
Speaker 1: a coincidence, posts there could be others.
Speaker 2: There are no coincidences on this show, just.
Speaker 1: You know, being blown into a new world just by
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't a house, but still yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Michael Emerson joining the show at least for a little
Speaker 1: time and quite wonderful at looking, could be genuine, could
Speaker 1: be squirrely right in alternate takes.
Speaker 3: Definitely leaving you guessing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I had ever seen him before
Speaker 1: this he was in this show.
Speaker 3: But good actor. Yeah, and from.
Speaker 1: A parenting point of view, the dealing with small things
Speaker 1: that annoy you, which was the frog subplot for us,
Speaker 1: it's like, are there yet? Are there yet? Are there yet?
Speaker 1: Are we there yet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, mom, mom, mom.
Speaker 1: And I mean you can't squish them. You have to
Speaker 1: do them. You have to find a way to get
Speaker 1: them to shut up, you have to satisfy them. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think you do sometimes reach the same
Speaker 1: level of frustrations. You can you just stop that? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have. We have all been there, yes, yeah, and
Speaker 1: barking dogs for that matter.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was thinking the same thing, and just the
Speaker 2: general like mom, mom, mom. Yeah, like no no context,
Speaker 2: no pleasantries, just your name being repeated over and over
Speaker 2: from some far corner of the house.
Speaker 1: Yes, what, Yes, there is no good way to deal
Speaker 1: with those. I mean, you should be able to just
Speaker 1: sort of take a deep breath and say, none of
Speaker 1: this really matters, and I could ignore it, but you just, yeah,
Speaker 1: you cannot. No, And you know you can't yell. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be the person who's yelling and screaming
Speaker 1: at every single thing. But it's just what can I
Speaker 1: do to get rid of this? I also was amused
Speaker 1: when I guess was Anna Lucia saw Danielle first and
Speaker 1: then went and got said and said said, or Anna and.
Speaker 2: Lucia came up to them like encountered said when he
Speaker 2: was talking to Danielle.
Speaker 1: I think he brought her out. I think she saw
Speaker 1: somebody in the jungle that she thought was another.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and she's like, say, you know, come here, yes, yeah, And.
Speaker 1: Then he says to her, go back to the camp
Speaker 1: and don't tell anyone what you saw.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How is it possible that she hasn't told everybody? Because
Speaker 1: that is the most guaranteed way, right somebody. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you need to be say to it. From a parenting
Speaker 1: point of view, if you say to a kid, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: don't tell anybody about this, that story is going viral, yeah, immediately.
Speaker 1: Just you can't keep something in and somebody tells you
Speaker 1: not to because now you've just told me it's significant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you something and it's important and it's scary, but forget
Speaker 1: all about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to adopt the strategy of like, oh, whatever,
Speaker 2: I got this, you know, don't worry about.
Speaker 3: It, Like.
Speaker 2: Shrug it off as much as possible and then maybe
Speaker 2: you'll get away with it.
Speaker 1: Or I don't see anything. I think you're just to hallucinate,
Speaker 1: and that happens a lot on this island.
Speaker 3: Money.
Speaker 1: Just go back and have a cup of tea, right deal?
Speaker 1: With it. Don't say and don't tell anybody about this.
Speaker 1: You're a better student of human nature than that's. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: news is going to get out.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: I liked the uh parenting strategy of Danielle, like giving
Speaker 1: Sai the gun and saying, here, here, you're worried about me,
Speaker 1: Here take the gun, and then I will be unarmed
Speaker 1: and you can be in charge. Right, And then of
Speaker 1: course she has a bow and arrows somebody with an arrow.
Speaker 1: It's like always, you know, give the give the child
Speaker 1: the feeling of agency, but have keep for yourself. Make
Speaker 1: sure that you you can take care of things if
Speaker 1: the need comes, the need.
Speaker 3: Arises, yes, which it did, Yes you did.
Speaker 1: Or whether it did or not, she did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Yikes, if we didn't have enough, draw a little more drama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as if we didn't have enough characters.
Speaker 1: One more yeah, another character, mysterious one. Yes, what will
Speaker 1: this do to the dynamic?
Speaker 3: It's already strained.
Speaker 1: Lock and Jack of lock trick Jack again, I guess,
Speaker 1: and then vice versa. They're just the two of them
Speaker 1: are just going to be in battle one way or
Speaker 1: the other. They like, they get together and then they
Speaker 1: they're like like magnets, you know, they get together and
Speaker 1: then they can't. They can't ever really one hundred percent
Speaker 1: agree on something. One of them is always going to
Speaker 1: be doing something to the other. Ah, Apparently something does
Speaker 1: happen if you don't put the numbers in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not quite right.
Speaker 1: But you can still put the numbers in late and
Speaker 1: ramp it down, I guess at some point to some degree.
Speaker 1: But what the heck? It's almost as if there's a
Speaker 1: magnet there. Have we ever heard that the man that
Speaker 1: there might be a magnet?
Speaker 2: Jack?
Speaker 1: Walk walk by with your key just in case somebody forgot.
Speaker 2: Isn't there anyone on this island who has like an
Speaker 2: artificial hip or something.
Speaker 1: I would be in trouble for braces in my wrist, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my eye every time I walked by, my arm
Speaker 1: would slam them against the wall. That would be a problem.
Speaker 1: It would be a good way to test people if
Speaker 1: having implants of or something in their pocket. And I'll
Speaker 1: go stand by that wall. Next Tuesday we will continue
Speaker 1: with season two, episode fifteen of the Lost Maternity Leave.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Sounds like maybe we're going to get one feature in
Speaker 1: the Ladies Got Got Men? Mucking things up pretty much.
Speaker 1: This time. Got a little Lucia and Danielle, but not much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Danielle incited all the action in this that's right.
Speaker 1: So that will be interesting to see what that means. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you back here tomorrow to start our
Speaker 1: new watch of Running Point. I have to see it
Speaker 1: right now. I listening to the Extra Hot Great where
Speaker 1: Dave was saying it the way I've been saying it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's not Running Point, it's Running Point.
Speaker 3: It's Running Point.
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