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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property. And for this week of March

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth, we're continuing with Lost, Season two, episode fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them where on this island that is so

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<v Speaker 1>remote nobody can tell where it is? Out of nowhere?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a new character.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you guy, what's up? He got there by a balloon?

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<v Speaker 1>He says, Yes, this place is remarkably populated for a

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<v Speaker 1>deserted island.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, he says, I've been here for four months, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>where exactly how big is this place?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but something fishy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you think so?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you on team Danielle and said that he is

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<v Speaker 1>another and he will lie on, lie and lie, or

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<v Speaker 1>on team Jack who thinks that they're crazy, or just

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<v Speaker 1>Locke who is mostly concerned with hitting the damn button.

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<v Speaker 1>And well he should because what when it didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded like that magnet was powering up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then and then it was like hieroglyphics, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>coming up on the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>So that seemed concerning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, but what do we think about Henry Gale?

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<v Speaker 1>Legit or no?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think legit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he legitimately.

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<v Speaker 1>It is ranch dressing that's good for seven years temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>They could have tried to feed him. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>the torture. We have this jar. It's been sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle for eight years. I still I am sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's try. I'll tell you everything made me eat that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't buy his stupid balloon story. Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 2>come up with something else. He's like, well, we've had

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<v Speaker 2>a ship, we've had a small plane, we've had a

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<v Speaker 2>big plane. We need something else.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't believe it. You believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he I agree, he was convincing, but yeah no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you're in the position of, like, as a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know your kid is lying, and you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like, tell me the truth. I know you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it never works to be like, did you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take this item that you weren't supposed to have,

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<v Speaker 2>Like of course they're just going to say no, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to approach it different. But don't pull out

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<v Speaker 2>their fingernails. Okay, no, don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, torture doesn't seem to be working too well anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you do not surely do.

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<v Speaker 3>Not endorse that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is the lying is always a thing with kids.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a thing called crazy lying with some kids neurological

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<v Speaker 1>disabilities have feel alcohol especially, and it's just where they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lose track of the truth. So they but

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<v Speaker 1>the person in front of them wants them to say something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they just say something, right, and then they're in trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't know what the truth is at that point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you have to be a little sympathetic, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, you really need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know right, So, but you can cannot ask a dirt quish.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not how you get to the truth. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to start by asking them if they've ever buried a

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<v Speaker 2>body and how many shovels of dirt did it take.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was a convincing a little bit there, because yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he has recent experience of bearing a loved one,

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<v Speaker 1>and so feels like you would know if you too

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<v Speaker 1>had recent experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was tense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's not like there was any relief in

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<v Speaker 2>the flashbacks because no.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But and then I didn't realize until reading the recap that,

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<v Speaker 2>like I knew I recognized some of the the guys

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<v Speaker 2>in uh Iraq, and one of them was Kaid's dad

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<v Speaker 2>or her yes, stepdad or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. I only realized that was him when he was

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. I remember he was in this one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember reading that he was in this one.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew he looked familiar, but I wouldn't have figured

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<v Speaker 3>that out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost as if these people were all destined to

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<v Speaker 2>meet in some way. Is almost they're all connected somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm starting to get that feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting interested there is there is another connection there that

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<v Speaker 1>we won't know about for a while. Okay, it is true. Yes, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody seems to be connected with everybody in some way.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that's uh, yeah, I feel like we kind of didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we not have the SAYI torturing people's story before?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess not. Maybe he just said this is how

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<v Speaker 1>he became a torturer.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, right, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>You could just sit by the by the fire and

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<v Speaker 1>tell Charlie that story and that would be it. Poor Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, he's out of the sawyer frying pan

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<v Speaker 1>into the said fire. Yes, like somebody please please give

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<v Speaker 1>this guy a batter ranch dressing and give him a

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<v Speaker 1>break some chips A.

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<v Speaker 2>Tense times, Yeah we did. I mean, thank goodness for

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<v Speaker 2>the ranch dressing for a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that whole uh, that whole humorous subplot ends with

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<v Speaker 1>sawyer squashing of frogs, Yes exactly, although that frog was

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<v Speaker 1>super annoying. How could that frog be so small and

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, are we sure it doesn't have friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I don't know. It's it's if I had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to squashed the bird that goes sits outside my

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<v Speaker 2>Chop.

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<v Speaker 1>I might be tempted. I think I would just like to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, relocate him to another place. I bare him

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<v Speaker 1>no violent ill will, but I want him very badly

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<v Speaker 1>to shut up him or her. Yes by the high

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<v Speaker 1>school chirpet people, sir, But kids in their classrooms, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They would enjoy that distraction.

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<v Speaker 1>So loud, so loud, and so forceful, just like a

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<v Speaker 1>not like the I mean, the tree frog at least

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<v Speaker 1>had multiple sounds. This bird just sits there and does charp,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a weight. You have to wait for it

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<v Speaker 1>to come again. You know it's coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but that would have been a funner subplot

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<v Speaker 1>if he had just let herlely relocate the frog at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. But I guess nothing good happens on this island.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what that frog was doing in another life

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<v Speaker 1>that it went, oh dear, probably did something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, we may we may never know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was carried by a bird and dropped on the island.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it had its own little balloon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the balloon. The balloon story is really what.

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<v Speaker 2>I am pretty gullible. I believe a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>but not that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is also the matter. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this is a spoiler, although it shouldn't be. Is the

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<v Speaker 1>name Henry Gale ring any bells to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>That it well, I didn't get it until I read

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But but Wizard of Oz with all the whiz stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and the wizard, Yes, you may have.

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<v Speaker 3>Some Wizard of Oz.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the name of Dorothy's family, Gail, and there

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<v Speaker 2>was an uncle Henry and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so could also be suspicious. Could also just be

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<v Speaker 1>a coincidence, posts there could be others.

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<v Speaker 2>There are no coincidences on this show, just.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, being blown into a new world just by

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it wasn't a house, but still yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Emerson joining the show at least for a little

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<v Speaker 1>time and quite wonderful at looking, could be genuine, could

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<v Speaker 1>be squirrely right in alternate takes.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely leaving you guessing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I had ever seen him before

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<v Speaker 1>this he was in this show.

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<v Speaker 3>But good actor. Yeah, and from.

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<v Speaker 1>A parenting point of view, the dealing with small things

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<v Speaker 1>that annoy you, which was the frog subplot for us,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, are there yet? Are there yet? Are there yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we there yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, mom, mom, mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean you can't squish them. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>do them. You have to find a way to get

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<v Speaker 1>them to shut up, you have to satisfy them. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think you do sometimes reach the same

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<v Speaker 1>level of frustrations. You can you just stop that? Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have. We have all been there, yes, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>barking dogs for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was thinking the same thing, and just the

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<v Speaker 2>general like mom, mom, mom. Yeah, like no no context,

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<v Speaker 2>no pleasantries, just your name being repeated over and over

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<v Speaker 2>from some far corner of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, what, Yes, there is no good way to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with those. I mean, you should be able to just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of take a deep breath and say, none of

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<v Speaker 1>this really matters, and I could ignore it, but you just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot. No, And you know you can't yell. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be the person who's yelling and screaming

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<v Speaker 1>at every single thing. But it's just what can I

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<v Speaker 1>do to get rid of this? I also was amused

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<v Speaker 1>when I guess was Anna Lucia saw Danielle first and

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<v Speaker 1>then went and got said and said said, or Anna and.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucia came up to them like encountered said when he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he brought her out. I think she saw

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in the jungle that she thought was another.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and she's like, say, you know, come here, yes, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he says to her, go back to the camp

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<v Speaker 1>and don't tell anyone what you saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How is it possible that she hasn't told everybody? Because

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<v Speaker 1>that is the most guaranteed way, right somebody. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be say to it. From a parenting

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<v Speaker 1>point of view, if you say to a kid, you know, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell anybody about this, that story is going viral, yeah, immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you can't keep something in and somebody tells you

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<v Speaker 1>not to because now you've just told me it's significant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you something and it's important and it's scary, but forget

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need to adopt the strategy of like, oh, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I got this, you know, don't worry about.

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<v Speaker 3>It, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>Shrug it off as much as possible and then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Or I don't see anything. I think you're just to hallucinate,

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<v Speaker 1>and that happens a lot on this island.

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<v Speaker 3>Money.

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<v Speaker 1>Just go back and have a cup of tea, right deal?

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<v Speaker 1>With it. Don't say and don't tell anybody about this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a better student of human nature than that's. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the uh parenting strategy of Danielle, like giving

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<v Speaker 1>Here take the gun, and then I will be unarmed

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<v Speaker 1>and you can be in charge. Right, And then of

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<v Speaker 1>It's like always, you know, give the give the child

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<v Speaker 1>the need comes, the need.

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<v Speaker 3>Arises, yes, which it did, Yes you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whether it did or not, she did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yikes, if we didn't have enough, draw a little more drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and as if we didn't have enough characters.

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<v Speaker 1>One more yeah, another character, mysterious one. Yes, what will

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<v Speaker 3>It's already strained.

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<v Speaker 1>Lock and Jack of lock trick Jack again, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>and then vice versa. They're just the two of them

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<v Speaker 1>the other. They like, they get together and then they

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<v Speaker 1>they're like like magnets, you know, they get together and

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<v Speaker 1>then they can't. They can't ever really one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>agree on something. One of them is always going to

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's not quite right.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can still put the numbers in late and

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<v Speaker 1>But what the heck? It's almost as if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>Jack?

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<v Speaker 1>Walk walk by with your key just in case somebody forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't there anyone on this island who has like an

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<v Speaker 1>I would be in trouble for braces in my wrist, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and my eye every time I walked by, my arm

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<v Speaker 1>would slam them against the wall. That would be a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be a good way to test people if

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<v Speaker 1>having implants of or something in their pocket. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go stand by that wall. Next Tuesday we will continue

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<v Speaker 1>with season two, episode fifteen of the Lost Maternity Leave.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like maybe we're going to get one feature in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ladies Got Got Men? Mucking things up pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>This time. Got a little Lucia and Danielle, but not much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Danielle incited all the action in this that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that will be interesting to see what that means. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see you back here tomorrow to start our

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<v Speaker 1>new watch of Running Point. I have to see it

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I listening to the Extra Hot Great where

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<v Speaker 1>Dave was saying it the way I've been saying it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not Running Point, it's Running Point.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Running Point.

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