WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:09.439 I'm going final hour, final hour of night Side Dan 2 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:10.439 spin Off all night. 3 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:13.960 He should be here tomorrow, but if not, who knows. 4 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:17.679 I may get the call, I may not. But this 5 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:23.760 hour I'm speaking with a colleague, broadcast colleague. He's out 6 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:27.800 of New York. He got in touch with me earlier 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:33.920 last week. I think I got a text from him saying, 8 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:37.759 in case you're looking for a potential guest, I'll do it. 9 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:43.240 So Ed Kalecki, did I pronounce it wrong? 10 00:00:43.679 --> 00:00:48.520 Ed, You're very close, Morgan, good evening. It's close. 11 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:53.039 Yeah, but I don't like mispronouncing names. It's a bad 12 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:53.520 thing to. 13 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:55.159 Do, but I appreciate it. 14 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:57.960 Tell people the name of your show. 15 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.000 The name of my show is The Weekend with Ed 16 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:05.120 Kleggy and I've been doing it for about ten years. 17 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:09.000 We're on a series of stations in the pretty much 18 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:12.719 the Midwest and the West. And it's a love of 19 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:15.760 life for me because I am someone who grew up 20 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.400 immersed in media. Morgan. I'm a child of the seventies 21 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.599 and an adolescent of the eighties, and I simply loved 22 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:24.920 radio and television, and I guess I listened to and 23 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:27.439 watched way too much of it and it rub off 24 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:29.439 on me, and it made me realize at a very 25 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:31.719 young age what I wanted to do, and I was broadcasting. 26 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:35.719 That's how I started. A generation before you. I was 27 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:41.359 a child of the fifties into the sixties. I was 28 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:45.120 one of those kids that had the transistor radio under 29 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.920 my pillow turned up so I could hear it through 30 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:52.959 the pillow. And ironically, the radio station I listened to 31 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:57.760 most often was BZ. I loved nighttime VZ with Larry 32 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:02.120 Glick and Dick Summer and on down the line mm hmm. 33 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:05.239 And with me down in New Jersey, I was able 34 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:09.120 to pick up easy at night, and I literally fell 35 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:12.960 in love with the artistry and the craftsmanship that was 36 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:17.360 David Brudnoy. And to me, that was a standard of 37 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:20.319 gold radio and gold standard of radio. And I love 38 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.520 that so much. And there has always been so much 39 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.479 personality out of that radio station. In later years, I 40 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.840 of course loved listening to You, but I became infatuated 41 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.240 with Steve Lavelli. I mean, any guy that plays the 42 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.919 clarinet is good with me. I mean, and and to me, 43 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:40.280 it's just there is such a wonder when it comes 44 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:44.080 to communication and the radio and listening to that, and 45 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:47.759 there is a magic within radio Morgan that simply does 46 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:49.879 not exist in any other medium. 47 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:53.240 How true. Now I'm going to test you. What was 48 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.159 Steve Levelli's cat's name? 49 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:58.599 Oh see, now I knew there was going to be 50 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:02.120 I remember the clarinet, but I don't remember. You know 51 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:05.639 what's gonna happen next hour when I'm walking upstairs in 52 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:07.919 my home, I'm gonna think that was the name of 53 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.080 the cat. But I know you're I'm going to tell 54 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:10.400 you now. 55 00:03:10.960 --> 00:03:14.479 My producer knew, and he whispered in my ear. Max 56 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:22.159 there's a there's a TV show about cats and it 57 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:26.840 comes on periodically, and he was on that show once 58 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:32.400 with Max broadcasting in front of this not this microphone, 59 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:38.280 but absy microphone. Wow, And you mentioned David Brednoy. I 60 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:46.680 have met thousands of people, celebrities, uh, TV people, movie people, 61 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:53.000 sports people, thousands. The most intelligent man I ever met 62 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:58.560 was David Brennan bar none, and he had me. 63 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:03.080 On his show subject. There was nothing that could get 64 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:07.000 past him. And he was able to elicit so much 65 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:09.879 out of a guest, and that's not the easiest thing 66 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:12.800 to do many times, but he was able to do 67 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:20.399 it a wonderful avenue of communication. And he was so 68 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:25.560 erudite and just so communicative, and it was just simply 69 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:27.839 a pleasure to listen to him. You felt like you 70 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:31.920 were in a course at Harvard or at Yale. But 71 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.120 he was able to communicate in a way that was 72 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.720 understandable to everyone. But he did it on such a 73 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:40.519 high level. And you are born with that, Morgan. You 74 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:42.839 cannot be taught how to do that. 75 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.360 That is true. And I will say this Norm Nathan 76 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.800 and David BRADNOI the other reason I have a microphone 77 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:54.319 in front of me. They spoke on different occasions to 78 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:58.439 my boss in the old days, Peter Casey, and they 79 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.160 talked Peter in the giving me a shot, and I 80 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:05.120 ran with it once I got the shot, And that's 81 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:12.480 why I'm still here. David was underlying the most intelligent 82 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:19.399 man I ever person, most intelligent person I ever met. Yes, 83 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:23.439 and thank you for bringing up his name. So I 84 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.480 want to I want to talk about this book. It 85 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:34.959 was my treat to say hello to Blank. That's your 86 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:38.319 book title? Did I get it right? 87 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:39.920 But almost? 88 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:40.199 It is. 89 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:43.519 It was great to say hello to And the reason 90 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.319 why it's cold, that is because just over the years, 91 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.800 I guess I had fallen into a trap of opening 92 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.959 up a conversation with it's great to say hello to 93 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.800 the person's name, and it kind of just sucks. So 94 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.519 I guess that kind of became my thing after a while. 95 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:03.319 So when my literary agent, a wonderful literary agent named 96 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:05.759 Diane nine who was headquartered down in Washington, when we 97 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.079 were kicking around ideas for an idea for the title 98 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:11.680 of the book, she said, what about you know what 99 00:06:11.759 --> 00:06:14.319 your catchphrase is? And I'm thinking that's pretty obvious, but 100 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:17.720 it's also pretty good. So since these are interviews which 101 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.319 have already happened, we took that it is great and 102 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:23.519 we turned it into what it was great. So it 103 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.439 was great to say hello to a curious radio hosts, 104 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:31.639 conversations with actors, authors, and newsmakers, And that is the title. 105 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:38.560 Now, I for no particular reason, I called six names. 106 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:41.160 How many separate names are in the book. 107 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:46.040 There are twenty four separate interviews in this book, all. 108 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.959 Right, So I called six names, and I want to 109 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:52.120 throw them out to my audience. Most of my audience 110 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:55.959 should be able to relate to these individuals. Maybe you've 111 00:06:56.000 --> 00:07:00.560 heard them interviewed here by me or Dan Ray or 112 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:05.519 Steve Lavelly over the years, Paul Sullivan, Bradley jay On 113 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.839 down the list, Dick van Dyke, who just turned ninety 114 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:15.959 nine this week, Cindy Williams, Carol Burnett, Richard Lewis, Robert Klein, 115 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:22.079 and Doris Kerns Goodwin. You heard those names people. I'm 116 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:25.560 gonna be speaking to add up until midnight. If you'd 117 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.800 like to call in and ask about Dick Van Dyke's 118 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:34.360 interview or Doris Kerns Goodwin's interview. That's why I've got 119 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:38.480 ed here now. If you want, you can just sit 120 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.480 back and listen. A lot of good conversation will be 121 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:44.639 bubbling up over the next forty five minutes. But if 122 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.720 you would like to join six one, seven, two, five, 123 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:51.000 four ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine, 124 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:54.720 ten thirty, this is night Side. Dan is off. I 125 00:07:54.759 --> 00:08:00.680 am here. Time and temperature eleven fifteen forty three degrees. 126 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.000 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 127 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:06.240 Nightside Studios. 128 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:11.680 I' WBZ News Radio. I'm Morgan. Ed Kalecki is my guest, 129 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:18.439 and we are talking about the two dozen of important 130 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:21.399 people he has interviewed over the years, He's got a 131 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:24.639 book it was great to say hello to and you 132 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.480 fill in the blank of all these people, curious radio hosts, 133 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:36.559 conversations with actors, authors and newsmakers. That's the official title. 134 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:38.120 Who published it, by the way. 135 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.200 The publisher, Morgan is Rand Smith's books, and they have 136 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:44.919 been wonderful to work with. 137 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:49.919 All Right, and I'm going to begin with a woman 138 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:55.000 I've heard here on BZ interviewed by Dan Ray and 139 00:08:55.200 --> 00:09:01.559 David Brudnoy, Doris Kearns Goodwin. And she began her political 140 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:10.399 career on Lyndon Johnson's staff and has kept her hand 141 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:16.159 in politics low these four or five decades. Tell me 142 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:19.320 about Darris Kurn's Goodwin Morgan. 143 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:23.399 What I always enjoyed most about Doris, and it came 144 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:27.440 through in our conversation, is that she has a very 145 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:31.840 unique ability as a historian to be able to take 146 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:36.639 current events and she can analyze them but through the 147 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:42.320 wonderful prism of history, and that's her craft. And she 148 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:46.279 has a delightful sense of humor as well. I remember 149 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:48.679 when we spoke and she kind of tossed out the 150 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.720 line I go to bed with dead presidents every single 151 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:55.440 night because they're always on her mind. And yeah, but 152 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.759 I just find her ability to take a look at 153 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:01.360 history and to be able to relate it to what's 154 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.600 going on now, and she does it in such a 155 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.759 flawless and in such a seamless way, And she is 156 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:12.759 such a wonderful repository of American history, of presidential history. 157 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:16.279 I had a wonderful conversation with her about FDR and 158 00:10:16.360 --> 00:10:20.679 and about the contemporary importance that he would still show 159 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:22.799 now with some of the things that he did back then, 160 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.360 And talked about her conduct with Lyndon Johnson and how 161 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:32.120 she felt about him, and overall just about leadership and 162 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:36.399 leadership qualities and what was it that made a perfect president? 163 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:38.879 And Abe Lincoln is her guy and will always be 164 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.919 her guide. But I just found her fascinating because here 165 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.039 is someone who deals with history, but yet she speaks 166 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:46.360 in such a contemporary way. 167 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.759 Why was Abe Lincoln her favorite president? I mean, she 168 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:53.440 worked for a president, She worked for. 169 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:57.159 Lyndon Johnson exactly. But she said there would be no 170 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:59.840 Lindon Johnson, there would be no other presidents that came 171 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.799 after A. B. Lincoln because he saved the country. He 172 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:06.919 saved the country at its most horrible most fractious time, 173 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:10.759 and she feels that he is a seminal leader because 174 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.960 everything that came after that in terms of American history, 175 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.480 is because of how he acted as president during the 176 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:23.720 Civil War and during that most important and most incredible times. 177 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:31.720 Most people don't realize that his assassination was a troika 178 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:37.440 of assassinations planned by the South, and John Wilkes Booth 179 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.799 was just one of the pawns that the South had 180 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:49.679 used to try and kill Johnson, his vice president, and 181 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:53.840 the Secretary of State. And if I'm not mistaken, was 182 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:55.240 that swort at the time. 183 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.720 I think you're correct, yes, And. 184 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:04.440 That way the South would have been able to reinvigorate 185 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.559 the war between the states and hopefully have it turned 186 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:14.559 in the favor of the South. But their plans were 187 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:26.639 figured out by soldiers and people in Washington. So they 188 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:33.320 succeeded in killing Lincoln. And they tried to kill Johnson, 189 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.960 and they thought they did. They shot him, but the 190 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.840 bullet bounced off a neck brace that he had, if 191 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:46.360 I'm not mistaken, So their attempt to kill three was 192 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:53.600 not successful, and the Union endured. And I want to 193 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:55.480 be the first to say thank goodness for that. 194 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:57.519 But indeed. 195 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:08.159 Lincoln had already cemented the path we would follow after 196 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:10.200 April of eighteen sixty five. 197 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.519 And it's incredible to think about how and how difficult 198 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.080 that was because obviously, you know, there was no ubiquitous media, 199 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.679 There was no way to communicate instantly and in an 200 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.799 easy way to the entire country at that point. And 201 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:29.679 just with all the machinations that had to take place 202 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.240 to be able to do what he did and to 203 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:35.960 be able to cemit that path to preserving the Union 204 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.960 and for us to continue as a united nation, it 205 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:42.200 just makes what he did that much more impressive. 206 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:47.720 And look at now we don't have a lot of 207 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:54.039 pictorial evidence, but there were photos pictures of Abraham Lincoln 208 00:13:54.600 --> 00:14:00.440 before he took office in eighteen sixty sixty one and 209 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:03.960 at the end of his life being assassinated in April 210 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:08.720 of eighteen sixty five. Look at the aging that took 211 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:14.000 place on that man. The weight of the Civil War, 212 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:20.039 the war between the States, just took almost a decade 213 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:28.320 off his life in five years, And I cannot imagine 214 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:35.120 what that pressure was like. Yet and still he survived it. 215 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:35.879 You know, the. 216 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:44.360 Treaty of Appomattics came before his assassination, so he lived 217 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.919 through the war. Not long after, but he lived through 218 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:49.360 the war. 219 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:50.639 That's right. 220 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:55.120 And unfortunately he didn't get a chance to finish out 221 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:59.360 his second term. And I wonder, had he finished his 222 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:05.440 second term, how would our life, our lives be different. 223 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.759 It's a very good point. I mean, obviously, you know, 224 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.720 we can never go back. And it's funny. As we're 225 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.240 talking about Lincoln, I think about something that I experienced 226 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:19.159 about ten years ago. I had taken my family to 227 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:23.120 Washington for a vacation, and we walked through the Smithsonian 228 00:15:23.679 --> 00:15:26.720 and everybody is happy, and there's this, and there's that, 229 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:28.519 and all of a sudden, you go into this room 230 00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:31.600 and it's very dimly lit and there is this glass 231 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:33.639 and enclosed case in the middle of the room, and 232 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:36.039 you're wondering what is that. And then when you walk 233 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:38.600 up to it and you see what it is, and 234 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:43.360 you realize what it is, you're struck. And it's the 235 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:48.200 hat that Lincoln wore that night at Ford's Theater, and 236 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:52.399 the bullet hole is in it, the bloodstain, all these 237 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:57.440 decades and decades later, is still there, and you realize 238 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:02.240 that you're looking at this most incredible piece of tangible 239 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.759 American history right in front of you. And this is 240 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:07.360 something that you were taught when you were a kid 241 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.399 in elementary school, and it's something that we've learned about 242 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:12.879 and we carried with and we know how important this 243 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:17.279 man was. But when you see the actual hat and 244 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:20.440 you see the bullet hole right there, it's a very 245 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:24.360 surreal feeling and that washes upon you as you walk 246 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:26.799 through that room. It's very difficult to describe. 247 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:32.279 I'm speaking with Ed Kellenghee and he has a radio 248 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:38.159 show that's if I were to drive away from Boston, 249 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:40.759 what would be the first city I could hit and 250 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:44.440 tune in your radio show? And what night is it on? 251 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:49.159 All right, it is depending upon the station. It's on Saturdays, 252 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.559 it's on Sundays. It gets moved around for sports. We 253 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:55.919 are on essentially a number of smaller community stations, a 254 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:58.279 bunch of stations that still do believe in the magic 255 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.720 of radio. You got to go out towards Oh, you 256 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:03.000 gotta go out towards Minnesota, and you got to go 257 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.359 out to Oregon. In Colorado, we're pretty much in that 258 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.519 neck of the woods. And I'm just a guy who 259 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:09.559 lived in Jersey. But that is what it is. But 260 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:13.640 in early twenty twenty five, there will be an announcement 261 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:16.279 of a larger platform. So as they stay say in 262 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:17.680 the biz, stay tuned. 263 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.359 But you can't tell me now, I know I. 264 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:26.720 Can't, all right, I would get thirty lashes, but yes, 265 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:28.759 but there is that they say something in the hopper. 266 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.319 So once I know you, my friend will be one 267 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:32.039 of the first to know. 268 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:36.279 Are you on CEO in Minnesota? 269 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:38.680 No, I'm not. I know that's a wonderful station, and 270 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:40.720 I know that Jordan Rich for a long time is 271 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.000 doing a show that was hurt both on DZ and WCCO. 272 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:47.599 But same for me, same for me. 273 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:49.480 You go very nice. 274 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.119 That's what I thought, because I know they do talk 275 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:57.559 and they've always had that talk station vibe. So I 276 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:00.400 figured maybe that's where you are. But I wrong. 277 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:02.720 Maybe there will well maybe at some point I will 278 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:03.519 who knows. 279 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:05.279 All right, I've been wrong before. 280 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:06.759 Now that's okay. 281 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:11.920 Dick Van Dyke had his ninety ninth birthday this week. 282 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:16.119 How many times did you interview Dick Van Dyke. 283 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.519 I had the pleasure of speaking with Dick one time, 284 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.400 and it was so memorable because I was just taken 285 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:27.920 by the energy of this man and even into his 286 00:18:28.279 --> 00:18:32.920 late nineties. And it was very interesting how when we 287 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:34.839 were talking he just came out and said, you know, 288 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.599 most of my contemporaries are gone. So I responded, well, 289 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:42.599 then what do you do? And really what I'm missing 290 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:44.640 a beat? He said, well, I just find new contemporaries. 291 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:47.839 And when you go online Morgan and you watch, there 292 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:50.920 are these YouTube videos he sings with an a cappella group. 293 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:55.640 He's still dancing ninety nine years old, and just the 294 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.640 unbound energy and not just the love of life, but Morgan, 295 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:03.359 this man has such an appreciation of life and an 296 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:08.400 appreciation of his career, and he knows the position he 297 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.039 holds in the fiber and the fabric of the pop 298 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:14.000 culture of this country and of the world. And I 299 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:16.920 think that he feeds upon that, and I think that's 300 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:20.440 a wonderful thing. And he truly proves that age is 301 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:25.000 simply it's it's the number with the numbers, but it's 302 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:27.200 a state of mind. You know what you can be 303 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.279 whatever age you want to be, because of how you 304 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.759 choose to live each day. And he exemplifies that to 305 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:35.799 the next. 306 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:44.279 The key is he won't let the view of being 307 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:51.000 seventy being eighty being ninety stop him and I saw 308 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:53.640 this must have been about three or four years ago. 309 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:58.559 He did a soft shoe on some TV program. I 310 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:02.559 don't remember the program, but he is a ninety something 311 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:06.559 year old man doing a soft shoe in time as 312 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:11.559 if he were in his mid thirties. Again, yeah, and 313 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:19.880 so smoothly. He always was a great dancer. And I 314 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.880 want to tell you something I did on my show, 315 00:20:23.759 --> 00:20:27.759 maybe a decade ago. I asked the audience. This is 316 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:31.799 one of those questions to get a reaction. Who did 317 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:38.519 the better pratfall? Ken Berry or Dick Van Dyke. Now 318 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:41.720 Kim Barry was good, and he was a hoofer as well, 319 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:46.759 but easily threw out of every four call I took, 320 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:48.119 said Dick Van Dyke. 321 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:54.240 I think he did a great pratfall. I think I 322 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.160 think Dick is or was, however you want to phrase. 323 00:20:57.240 --> 00:20:59.759 This was a bit more theatric in what he was 324 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:03.119 a to do, because Dick was influenced so greatly by 325 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:06.759 Stan Laurel ken Berry. Yes, I'm I'm glad you brought 326 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:09.359 him up because I can remember. And it's funny how 327 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:11.599 you think of things when you have these conversations. He 328 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:15.640 was on a summer replacement show on ABC called Wow. 329 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:18.480 It was this Saturday night variety show and it would 330 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.440 always be it would always start with these wonderful dance numbers. 331 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:26.039 Ken Berry was an incredible dancer. People think of him 332 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.519 for f Troop and Mama's Family and Mayberry RFD. That 333 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:32.119 man was so light on his feet and it was 334 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:36.640 a wonderful dancer. And it makes me think, you know, Morgan, 335 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:40.200 times have changed so much. Performers used to be so 336 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:43.920 well rounded. They were quote unquote entertainers and. 337 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:47.519 They could do everything, yes, everything. 338 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:49.000 And we don't really have that anymore, and I think 339 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:49.599 that's a shame. 340 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:52.319 No tell you what. Let me take my news break 341 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:55.200 and come back and we'll pick up talking about Dick 342 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:58.119 Vandyke and maybe I'll incorporate the other names that I mentioned. 343 00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:02.319 So people, Ed Khalicky is going to be here until 344 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:07.200 I leave at midnight. You want to call in, do so. 345 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:14.279 The time is eleven thirty and temperature forty three degrees. 346 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:21.599 It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 347 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:25.319 My name is Morgan White Junior. I am here until midnight. 348 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:28.759 I've been here since eight. Dan Ray has been off. 349 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:33.880 Hopefully he'll be in tomorrow, Ed, you're still here. 350 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:36.440 I certainly am Morgan. 351 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.880 Good Ed Kaliky is my guest. He is here, and 352 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:46.000 he is like I am, a talk show host. His 353 00:22:46.039 --> 00:22:49.640 show is syndicated. And you said there are thirty stations 354 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:50.960 or so the carrier. 355 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:55.119 Show thirty stations and wonderful places like are again and 356 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.480 out in Nebraska and all across the Fruited Plains. So yeah, 357 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:03.240 So it's a bunch of stations that are still committed 358 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:06.880 towards radio and this type of radio and community radio. 359 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.839 So it's been a fun ride and it just provides 360 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:14.359 me an opportunity to have some great conversations with all 361 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.240 kinds of different people from all different walks of life. 362 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.599 All right, now, I want to continue our conversation about 363 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:25.839 Dick Van Dyke, and I will, but we've got a 364 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:31.000 phone call and callers come first. So Gary, you're next 365 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:34.200 on night Side. Hello, Gary, Yes, Ed. 366 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:35.880 Can you fill me in? What type of show do 367 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:36.519 you have? Again? 368 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:40.119 It's a talk show, Gary, And I'm good to talk 369 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.920 to you, and we talk about we talk with authors, 370 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.839 and we talk with actors, and we talk with newsmakers. 371 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:48.720 I've been very fortunate over the years to be able 372 00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.440 to work with some great publicists from New York and 373 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:55.480 Washington and Los Angeles and so general interest talk. But 374 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:59.359 I am also someone who loves old show business. So 375 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.720 I always loved that great, feel good interview with a celebrity, 376 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:05.000 and that's why you'll see so many of them in 377 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:08.400 this book, because I'm just somebody who grew up immersed 378 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.880 in media and it never rubbed off. And it's very 379 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:13.640 fortunate for me to be able to do something that 380 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:14.559 I always wanted to do. 381 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:19.440 Where can we hit your show around this area? 382 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.119 Well in this area, which you'd have to do. The 383 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.519 easiest way to be able to hear the content that 384 00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:26.720 I do is a because like I said, we're on 385 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.279 a lot of smaller stations than any of them don't 386 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:32.319 really broadcast online. What you can do, which you can 387 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.680 go to my website which is ed colegg E ed 388 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:37.759 k A l e gi dot com, or you can 389 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.599 also go on SoundCloud and what happens is after everything airs, 390 00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:44.079 everything is placed up there and there is a wonderful 391 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:48.480 repository of about twelve hundred segments and interviews from over 392 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.599 the years, and there is just hours and hours of 393 00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:55.599 listening that's available. So It's a great way for all 394 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:57.279 of the audio just to live on and to be 395 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:00.920 able to be heard whenever somebody wants to hear it. 396 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:05.279 Since you're an old time entertainment or even still today. 397 00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:08.279 Of course at the tablet, I'm sixty one years of age. 398 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.799 I tell people all the time, you know, like some 399 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:14.079 of the greatest sports movies at our time. The one 400 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:15.960 that makes me cry all the time is the Little 401 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:16.640