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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: Clippers fans, Welcome to season three, episode thirty of Clips

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and Dip.

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Speaker 1: The whole crew is back. I am Jehn.

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Speaker 2: Blackler, joined by William Updyke and Adam Austlin.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging out with us today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking the duality of the Clippers last

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back to back and maybe what it told us about

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the team, or if it just reiterated things we perhaps

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already knew, some trade talk stuff for about two weeks

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away from when a decent chunk of guys can be traded,

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and then a short quick preview of the three games

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to end the week. If you're listening to us, thank

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you for listening. If you're watching, thank you for watching.

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If you'd like to view us do this podcast, you

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can find us at YouTube dot com plash at Clippers podcast.

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Fellas Elephant in the Room. Adam Oslin has a professional

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new setup. He's blowing us out of the water with professionalism. Adam,

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how you doing?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wish I had this setup of my apartment,

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but the truth is I've been too loud there. So

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I came in to work to record at iHeart and

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likely the Clipper studio is typically not in use, so

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I got it right now.

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Speaker 1: Can't imagine why. I can't imagine why.

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Speaker 2: The man bringing Adam Oslin's podcasting down will do you

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have any apartment situations like Adams? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing good? As the Clippers just slip this

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back to back? I'm doing great. I have like a

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pretty like my unit is like pretty detached from stuff,

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so I can be as loud as I want over

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here pretty quickly. Am No, I'm doing good. This was

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a rough I mean, this was a rough loss, but

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an expected one. I think like there was definitely going

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to be a game that there will likely be more

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than one game where the Clippers get their teeth kicked in.

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And that's just what it is, and it's going to happen.

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At least it's too a team that's like on the

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level of Boston, you know, it's not happening to like

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the Maverick or something which would feel a lot worse.

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And yes, that is shots fire, yeah, and yeah, I

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just complete a little five k in the rain, So

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I'm feeling good this guy. Damn. I'm drinking a peanut

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butter stout. I poured myself a healthy glass of wine afterwards,

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got for the recovery. I don't know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: I like what you said about kind of being an

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expected loss. They smoke the seventy six ers, who are

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very bad. Right now, we're Adam, were you surprised? I mean,

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the avalanche in the second quarter was incredible from the Celtics,

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But were we surprised that the Clippers lost this game,

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even kind of in the fashion they did.

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Speaker 1: This is no knock on the Clippers. It's just that

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Celtics team is.

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Speaker 3: No I said, you got to hold them to fifteen

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threes or less heading in, and they had sixteen at

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the half. And that's what happens when you run into

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it seemed this good that takes fifty threes per game.

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If they get hot, you have no chance, I guess

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them unless you're Golden State with KD. I don't know

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who's beating that team last night because they spread you

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out and therefore if you try to run them off

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the line, they have a free ride to the basket

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for an easy two. There's just no way to beat

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a team like the Boston Celtics when they're running like that.

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It's funny because the Clippers they played the exact same

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defense in the first quarter they played in the second quarter,

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and the first quarter Boston started one for eleven from three.

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The second quarter they started nine for eleven. So it

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kind of tells you that a lot of this is

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out of your control, Like when a team is that

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hot from the outside, there's not much you can do.

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So takes all us in that, I guess. And it

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wasn't Dallas Mavericks, So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was.

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Speaker 2: The contested shots were crazy. I saw you posted the

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screenshot of it on Twitter, just how many contested shots

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they hit just in the second quarter. And there were

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some defensive lapses, like we saw a couple there's some

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Pritchard threes where like the bench reacted crazy, and they

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talked about kind of not being locked in. But again,

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the second night of a back to back, they split

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the back to back, which I think expectationis for the Slippers.

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Team feels pretty good, especially without Norm Powell, who we

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did get some good news today.

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Speaker 1: Well, and this is like kind of an aside, but

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this is kind of always my thing, like it doesn't

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matter if it really truly doesn't matter if you're the

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best defense in the NBA. The way the game is officiated,

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the way it's regulated, it's like it's it's a heavily

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leaning offensive game. And I'm not saying that's wrong. It's

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more aesthetically pleasing to watch. But it does like, even

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if you were the absolute best defense in the NBA,

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you can't stop everything. You know, like it's just there

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the way the game is played, and like I said,

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the way that it's officiated is really beyond your control,

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even if you aren't the best of the best defensively.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the other thing too, the defensive

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rating didn't drop, right, Adam. You were tweeting about that,

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like it's we're still fifth or sixth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fifth heading into that game. It was

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fifth heading out of that game, which was a little

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bit surprising. I thought they might drop two spots, but

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as games, to the point they're almost a game twenty things,

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storry to settle a little bit with some of these numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking at the best two man lineups

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because I wanted Chris dun and Derek Jones Junior have

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been I mean more than advertised when they were brought

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on with the team so far, I think, especially defensively,

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we knew they'd be good, but this is appairing in

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two hundred and eleven minutes. Their plus sixty one just

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good for a team that had a really got a

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bad starting lineup plus minus fiz for a while. And

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if you look up the Clippers two man lineup stats

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and shift to totals, Chris Dunn, I think is in

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four of the five like the impact that these guys

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are bringing together and that that starting lineup switch, like

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there was I think a good thing about this loss

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was there was no question, like it wasn't a lineup issue, right,

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like they they just got braided by Celtics threes and

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this issue, Well sure, yeah, but I didn't you know,

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nothing made me think different of the Clippers after that loss.

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Speaker 3: Outlier, Throw it away, burn the tape, kill it with fire.

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There's not much you could do. They hit twelve threes

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in the second quarter. They went for the most points

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ever that a team has in a quarter against the Clippers,

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where they tied it with fifty one. I just they

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hit their first six threes in the second quarter, and

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there were a couple lapses, but it was like three

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or four, Like I don't know, I don't know what

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you do against Boston, they are an unsolvable problem.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see him in the finals, I believe in

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As Will says, it's gonna be a pretty good series

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for the Clippers. Norm being out was a big issue

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having you know, there's only so many scoring threats the

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Clippers have if Norm.

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Speaker 1: Powell is out for this one.

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Speaker 2: He has been upgraded to questionable for the game against Washington,

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which is great. Would be happy to for him to

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come back there.

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Speaker 1: The Clippers sit.

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Speaker 2: At eleven and eight. Will, does eleven and eight feel

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fair to you?

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Speaker 1: Like, how are we feeling?

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Speaker 2: Almost twenty games in, they've had a ten point lead

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in every game, threeing one without Norm?

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Speaker 1: How are we feeling. I'm feeling pretty good about that. Yeah,

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eleven and eight, Like three games over five hundred, I

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feel like, is really pretty decent for this stretch of

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the season to be just under twenty games. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We did the ten game check in and we were

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all kind of like, if we're over five hundred and twenty,

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but we're nearly a corporate.

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Speaker 1: Way through the season, and I mean, that's that's pretty reasonable.

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you know, now know norm power for an extended.

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Speaker 2: For cent and run, Adam is eleven and eight. Fair

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to you to this point for the Clippers, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think they've exceeded everyone's expectations. I said just to

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stay around five hundred, and they're three games above it

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right now with one of the toughest schedules in the league.

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With they've had five back to back instances so far,

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so what ten of their nineteen games have been here

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on the front end or the back them a back

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to back? I am that's thoroughly impressed. Defensively, they've been

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even better than I thought, and I thought they'd be

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pretty damn good, but it's held up so far. They

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haven't had a lot of slippage, even though their offense

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has still been bottom ten pretty consistently. And the thing

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that surprised me most that I never saw coming was

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just the rebounding. They are the third best team when

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it comes to rebounding percentage. They are the first. They're

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the best team when it comes to defensive rebounding percentage.

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And all that talk about oh they need a power forward,

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they need this, they're rebounding. They're doing it. They're showing

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that you can get it done even with smaller guys

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out there, if they just apparently have the will and

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the want two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, And I think like the will and

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the want to is kind of what Clippers fans have

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been missing from the team for the past couple of seasons, right, Like,

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there's always been this idea of like they're not playing

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how people want them to play or how they should be,

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you know, looking on the court and stuff like that.

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The rebounds point to that, and I think the not

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giving up, I guess, like, not that I'm not gonna

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say they gave up last year, but this team wants

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to try and win every single game. I think it's

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very evident in a different way than last year. I

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am interested to see how the integration of Norm back

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into the lineup goes. Norm's obviously great. I'm not worried about,

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you know, like the fit exactly, just the shooting and

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how long it's going to take him to get back

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from the hamstring thing, because it is impressive. Three and

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one without Norm Powell is not necessarily what I expected

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if he was going to miss four games, But that

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integration is going to be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully he picks up where he left off. Because

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they wouldn't have won that last game without him, and

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he played through it, played hurt. What was that the

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Golden State game where he came back from the hammy

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and played through and look great and hit those big

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shots down the stretch off the feeds from James hard

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as he was just curling around the perimeter. So they

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need him. Last night was a pretty big indication of that,

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Like you can have a great defense all you want,

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Like what was saying in today's league, things are slanted

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towards helping the offenses and the three point shooting, and

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I just think there's more tough shot makers than they've

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ever happened in the league. Like the shooting is so

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crazy compared to how it used to be. You gotta

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have some firepower on your side too. They need Norm

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Powell really bad, really bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like knife to a gunfight scenario

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down in Boston.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know, it's uh, but he's coming back hopefully.

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Speaker 2: I he'll probably play on Sunday or sorry not Sunday against.

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Speaker 1: The Wizards. I would think.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if they're trying to get one more game

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without him, just because it's the Wizards. They've won three.

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Speaker 2: Games, the worst team in the league. Yeah, any final

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thoughts on how this team has been so far. I

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figured we'd get kind of the twenty game talk through

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out of the way. I think it's, well, how much

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stock do you put into the having a ten point

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lead in every single game so far?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, very little. But it is impressive to

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see it is It is impressive to see the Clippers.

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that's just not something that we've been accustomed to in

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years past. And I mean it's a little bit more

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troubling when you see like the starters come out of

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the half really really flat. Like that's troubling because I

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do feel like this team used to be pretty good

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at third quarter adjustments despite some of their slow starts.

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it's a different look, and to be able to get

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them momentum going, especially when they're setting the tone defensively,

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which allows them to get into their offense so much

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more efficiently. It's yeah, I mean, it's great to see,

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but it's you know, like I said, especially with games

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being like so offensive, so offensive minded, like you're going

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to run into difficulties, and I mean you get a

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few early flat you get a few early fouls. I mean,

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it completely changes the entire landscape for the game. So

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it's you know, it's like we talked about it, it's

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just these very thin margins. So no ten points to me,

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doesn't feel that comfortable, That doesn't feel that padded.

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Speaker 2: I like what you said because that's kind of the

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point of the Celtics game, right, Like they were hitting

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so many contested shots. Even if you're playing a defense,

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you're still not being rewarded with necessarily like a positive

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possession because they still scored, and then the offense got slow.

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Speaker 1: Tyler.

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Speaker 2: You talked about it. He was like, we were not

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initiating things fast enough. This team is built on the

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good defense helps the offense, which does need help. And

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you know that's why I guess, you know, I don't

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put too much stock into the way they lost against

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the Celtics because they at least like they were just

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fifteeral points in a quarter. But yeah, I think I

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agree with you. The ten The ten point lead thing

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is cool, but it would be a lot cooler even

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just five years ago, I guess because totally.

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but I mean ten points is not that big of

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a lead for any team. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Will's point though, talking about them getting off to

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good starts and we're not used to that. It is funny.

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I just checked the plus minus in first quarters this year.

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They're six. They're a plus forty seven in first quarters.

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Speaker 2: Jesus, that's awesome. Yeah, it's a new era.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, oh man, And they had some bad starts. I

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think a lot of this is just over the last

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ten games or so, you know, because the starting lineup

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wasn't doing well early on, when Terrence Man was still

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in it. I think they were minus at that point.

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Speaker 2: They're absolutely minus at that point. Coming up, we're gonna

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be talking some trade eligibility stuff. It's almost December fifteenth.

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People have been talking some trade things. They have ideas.

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thank you for listening. But there's gonna be a quick

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audio break and then some trade talk coming up in

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in to clips and dip your

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favorite Clippers podcast, maybe your favorite NBA podcast, I don't know,

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talked about how the Clippers are doing so far this season.

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Are run on it now, I mean, kind of what

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everyone wants to talk about. I feel like it's to

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a certain subsection of fans, maybe more important than the games.

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But December fifteenth is coming up, which makes a lot

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of players trade eligible. It makes things kind of interesting.

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If you're if you're into you know, Recliner GMing, if

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you will, if you're into screenshots, trade machines, maybe it

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is your season. So we got to talk about that.

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Let's just kick things off. I mean, I've kind of

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said my opinion on this one and it still hasn't

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really changed. I feel like it's difficult for the Clippers

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to make an acquisition given that they are three games

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about above five hundred without Kawhi Leonards, Like you're in

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such a bizarre limbo, Like is it is that enough

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to try to make a big swing, leverage what little

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assets you have for you know, for a better rotation.

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I would say probably power forward, I think is what

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I would aim for. Where are you at, Adam? Is

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there anyone who is sort of tickling your fancy in

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this upcoming December fifteenth free agent class.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, given that the Clippers are eleven and

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eight and that we still don't know the status of

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Kawhi Leonard. In fact, the update yesterday was more of

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the same and made me less hopeful. Honestly. That came

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from Wat Murray. Like, he's doing some box work, he's

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shooting a little bit, he's progressing. We're talking about an

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injury from late March, like late March, we're talking about this,

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and I would categorize this as a setback at this point.

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Like I know, it doesn't mean that he has re

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injured anything or anything like that, but he's not playing

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yet and we're almost twenty games in and he's not

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playing tomorrow either. He's not doing much basketball work, So

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I don't know where we're at with that. It could

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be as simple as well, they're eleven and eight, so

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they can hold back Kawhi even more and preserve him

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and try to wait till they really need him to

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make that push for the playoffs, yeah, and then getting

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him as healthy as possible for the big, biggest moments.

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So I understand if that's your logic, but I just

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I don't know. That was a little bit concerning hearing

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that stuff yesterday because we weren't sure about the shooting

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and what he meant, you know, a week ago coach

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and talking about it. Yeah, and it just seems like

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he's not doing much, he's not participating in much, and

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it's about to be December here, so for me, maybe

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that means best case scenario, he's back in January, That's

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my guess. So I just don't know why you would

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make moves until you know where Kawhi Leonard is at.

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I can understand looking at a power forward. Look, if

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a good trade comes along and you don't have to

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give up much, sure, or let's say, I don't know,

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you move Terrence Man because you feel like you have

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a surplus of those guys now and you have a

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position of need. Maybe with getting a big man who

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can shoot a little bit that can be playable in

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small ball lineups. That's interesting to me. But I'm just

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not giving up future assets. I'm not making any big

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swings to say, hey, we're going all in for this

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season until I know more about Kauai.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the big swing seems very much off the table

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for the Clippers, Like, there's only really Terrence Mann feels

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like the only guy who is And I'm not using

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this term in any kind of mean way or anything

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like that. You look at the roster, you said, there's

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kind of a glut of these guys who kind of

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maybe do a similar thing as Terrence Man. He's the

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only guy that seems like that would be moved right

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now from this team if a trade were to happen,

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That would be the most logical person I can see

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the Clippers. Uh, here's who can be traded after December

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fifteenth on the Clippers, And I don't think any of

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these guys are being traded. James Harden, Derek Jones Junior,

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nicolebet Christop, Kevin Porter Junior, and Mobomba. None of those

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guys are going anywhere for the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Mobiba, but I don't know, you're not getting anything

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for him, So I just I Yeah, the weird limbo

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is a perfect way to put it. This team is

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maximizing a lot of its pieces right now, right like

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we're getting that thing where everyone's kind of playing plus

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fifteen percent except for Tery.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's kind of the double edged sort

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of out performing, right, Like it you're doing so well

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that like even for some of these guys that you

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could sell on high value, it's kind of like, man,

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do you really want to get rid of normal? Like

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you're three games above five hundred, Like you have like

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a five to eighty winning percentage without Kawhi Leonard, Like

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I mean, you have to like, to me, that makes

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a team, like you would really have to sweeten a

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deal to kind of make that go. We'll see how

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things look, you know, closer to the All Star break.

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But like it puts you in a very bizarre position like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, plucky underdog where everyone is overplaying. It's like, well,

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they're not going to accept bad trades because we don't.

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Speaker 1: Have Because I mean, if you would have told me

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coming into this season, you know it's gonna be December,

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there's still no quiet day, so he's likely not playing

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until after the All Star break, Like I would say,

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I mean, I maybe try to scrounge together some assets

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because it's a little bit questionable what you're gonna be

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able to do. But if you have like a five

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eighty winning percentage and you know, like things are looking

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all right, you're still sitting out of the plane as

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of a quarter of the way through the season, It's like, well,

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I don't know, man, Like, are you really ready to

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like commit to like a I mean, it could be

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more of a retool than a rebuild, but like, are

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you really committed to the retool midway through the season.

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I mean, because at that point you're totally punting. You

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have to totally punt on the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if they're also you know, we've talked

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about this, but far behind the Houston Rockets, it is

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time to play the young guys. Because if you're already

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not holding on to that number one pick and you're

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going to have the twenty ninth or the thirtieth pick

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from OKC, dude to pick swap, then I'm probably the

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thinking the best thing you can do now is at

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least develop the guys who are on your roster, like

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give them plenty of run. But yeah, I just don't

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see I would stand pat right now outside of PJ. Tucker, Bones, Highland, Terrence, Man,

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I don't see anybody you don't want to give up

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on Norman Powell right now because he is a fan favorite.

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You can say he's you're selling high or.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they would be selling the value for trade. The

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value for Norman Powell right now for a basketball contract

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is the highest that it will ever be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it should still be pretty high

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around the trade deadline when they have more absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying like an immediate trade, but like

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that's what I mean, Like it's there. If they were

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to entertain a trade idea, they would never get more

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for normal pal than they would right now.

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Speaker 3: And James Harden, I think is going to be looked

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at around the trade deadline if they're below five hundred.

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He's on a one to one contract, Like you have

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to think about it. Everybody interesting has to be considered.

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Speaker 1: But everyone's a suspect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, I think people are still suspicious on

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how good this Clippers team is as we move forward here,

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so we'll see.

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Speaker 2: That's a good call too, Like is this team in

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a really really a three game above five hundred team

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or because the defense I think is set for the

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most part, I think it's a very good defense. I

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have no problem thinking he's going to finish top ten

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if the personnel stays the same like it is right now.

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Speaker 1: But with the bottom offense, I mean, I would say

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sixth is a little suspect some things going in your favor.

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You have had a very difficult schedule thus far. Yeah,

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so like that, I mean, like that is a point

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for points against. I mean, this is still an older

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roster and you're still you are still one more like

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even brief injury away from like just from kind of

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being in the absolute garbage of teams. Like if James

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aren't misses four games, one of those four games, that

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is gonna be some brutal to watch. You have been

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sniping this episode.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because you're not.

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Speaker 2: Wrong, though, dude, Like it's yeah, I light all the candles,

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you know, I'm knocking on wood.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying that anything is gonna happen, but like,

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you know, people miss games. It doesn't even have to

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be a serious injury. And we've like we've outside of

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Norman Power, which even this stand is pretty short. Like

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we've been pretty lucky, which is a little that's part

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of the Markers fan a little worrisome things are going

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too good.

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Speaker 3: They're a game and a half up on the eleventh

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seed in the Minnesota Wolves. Yes, well they are only

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three games back up the number one seed. Uh, the

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eleven seed is even closer to them. They're kissing it

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and this Clippers team, it's just it's still far too

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early in the season. I'm just not going all in

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and I'm not doing something that's a lateral move unless

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I can improve in a different area. Like you talked about,

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they have a glut and a surplus of wings, and

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Terrence Man might be seen as more expendable. Plus he

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hasn't been playing that well. But does that help your

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trade value with him? No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if you get this, do you

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want him?

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Speaker 3: I know what people are gonna be saying tomorrow, get

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Kyle Kuzma, like that's already going.

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Speaker 1: To be happy.

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I don't know.

474
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Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't think he's contingent. That

475
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,559
contingent though, has been very vocal for years now.

476
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Speaker 2: Is that second place to uh Collins in terms of

477
00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:52,079
one of the most talked about Yeah, Clippers trade guys.

478
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Speaker 3: And then Jeremy Grant's bringing up the rear.

479
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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know how they'd make an offer

481
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,519
that's better than what half the league could make for

482
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,799
Kyle Kuzman At least.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, without adding someone like a betweenity. But like the

484
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,960
Wizards are trying to lose, so it's not like they

485
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want a guy who's gonna play good basketball.

486
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they want young assets and future draft equity.

487
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They want stuff that the Clippers don't have. Like that's

488
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,599
that's why you're in a weird spot too, is like

489
00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,319
what you have is not like what the teams are

490
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really looking for, you know, Like and even Norm Powell,

491
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It's like that's a guy that like is probably going

492
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to go to a contender or someone who's hoping to

493
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be like a you know, like volte themselves into playoff status.

494
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So Twitter guy is the perfect description. Like what are

495
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they really you know, like what do they really have

496
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to offer you? Like they if you know, if they

497
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have a lot of draft draftic equity, you could probably

498
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get that, But you're not getting anything that's gonna be

499
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a return on investment for this year. So that's why

500
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I was saying, like it's an absolute, like you have

501
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to commit to absolutely punting on this year.

502
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Speaker 3: How would you guys feel if they could get a

503
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late first round pick for Terrence Man? Would you do

504
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a deal like that? Man?

505
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be perfectly honest.

506
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Speaker 2: My heart is says no, but my my brain absolutely

507
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:15,680
says yeah, Like it would suck. It would really suck

508
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to lose Terrence Man the year the year after we

509
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,000
give him a contract. He's been through so much stuff

510
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:24,640
with this franchise. But I understand for a team that

511
00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:26,640
because that's a move that you can do if you're not,

512
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,839
you know, bad at the trade deadline, right Like, that's

513
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a move that it would still make sense long term.

514
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,440
It's because they need picks. We can't talk about how

515
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they don't have any of this stuff. And then if

516
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it comes up for a guy who I know. I

517
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,200
love Terrence, I love him as the Clippers, but I

518
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could see them doing that trade.

519
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Speaker 1: I'd have to give it. I gotta be honest, I'd

520
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have to give it a hearty e because what is

521
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,920
the other move, right Like, if we're gonna if we're

522
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gonna trade away James harden and or Kawhi Leonard and

523
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,799
strip this thing down, Yeah, give him up. Let's get

524
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:57,880
a first. My thing right now is like, okay, so

525
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what year is that first? Let's say next year? Great,

526
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,920
So how much playing time are we going to be

527
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able to get them in that year. How long is

528
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it going to take to develop this theoretical prospect? Like

529
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I I understand, and I do, I do see the

530
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value in that, especially if you want to package that

531
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pick with a different move, But again, that means you're

532
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,279
kind of committing to punting on this year. I feel

533
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:20,759
like you're losing a rotation player for for you know,

534
00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:23,720
very little, for something that's you know, for to match Sallery,

535
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:27,839
something probably worse than Terrence and a future asset. And

536
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,839
then like again, the future asset is nice, are you

537
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,359
going to try to trade that before the draft? And

538
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,559
then if so, like you, I mean, you still got

539
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to send out something else of value, So I don't know.

540
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,839
So it's it's kind of I need, I need, I

541
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,519
need to know more about the deal, Like this isn't

542
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,359
like that. I like the hypothetical and it is a

543
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,039
difficult decision, but like more, I need to know a

544
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:52,319
little bit more about this deal.

545
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Speaker 2: I think they probably used the pick in a deal

546
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,759
once the books opened up more to do a similar

547
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,759
obviously not as big of a swing, because I think

548
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those as possible anymore with the new cap stuff, as

549
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:04,960
they did with PG. Like I think they would be

550
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,440
somehow lumped in. But that is a very that's a

551
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,559
good call to me.

552
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Speaker 3: I guess I just don't see trading Terrence Man as

553
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,880
a punt sell off type of move. I think he's

554
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,039
the one guy that's the easiest guy to replicate that

555
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,079
you can also get something for. I think that we

556
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,319
all want Jordan Miller to play right. That's how he plays,

557
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,680
That's how he plays. More you trade Terrence Man. Like

558
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:34,799
we we talk about the minutes crunch all the time.

559
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:38,359
I'm not saying I want this, I love Terrence Man.

560
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,440
I'm just saying this is the one player you could move.

561
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And I don't think you're going to have some major

562
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:47,920
drop off from losing him at this point.

563
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Speaker 2: I don't, but we also what will just point out,

564
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,079
I think it's a good point if there were to

565
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be an absence and we don't have Yeah, if we

566
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don't have Terrence.

567
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Speaker 1: Man to Phil because he isn't good, He's not I

568
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:04,200
know he hasn't had a good season, but he's it's

569
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,279
not like he's and I like, I liked he's not

570
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,119
He's not an immovable for me. I'm not saying that

571
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at all, And I definitely see the logic I just

572
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,480
don't know, Like I I just have questions.

573
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Speaker 3: I guess I'm looking at and who's.

574
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Speaker 1: Giving up a first round pick? You know what I mean? Again,

575
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,880
that's just so you're looking at like what, Okay, say

576
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,160
twenty seventh pick. I mean, you know, I don't know. Yeah,

577
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,799
I'm just to be fair asses out right now. I

578
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,759
don't know that much about this upcoming draft pick. I

579
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:37,720
don't know what it's looking like at thirty if you're

580
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,599
if you're if you're grabbing some value there.

581
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Speaker 2: You haven't projected your entire first round yet, Dude, it's

582
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:44,759
almost December.

583
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: We're not even a corner away in a season yet. Man,

584
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:48,119
give me some.

585
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: Time build your board.

586
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,279
Speaker 1: I haven't even had time with this draft class. Robe

587
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wasn't built the day.

588
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Speaker 2: My draft boards are never built in the day because

589
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:59,359
I never build them.

590
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,839
Speaker 3: To say that for Jerome Robinson, Jerome wasn't built in

591
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a day.

592
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: No, he was not.

593
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: There's still that's it's unfinished. That version of Rome is unfinished.

594
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:13,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

595
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: It's also I put a note in here too, it's

596
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fine if the Clippers don't make a big swing at

597
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,519
this deadline. I think people are caught up and I mean,

598
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and this makes sense. People are caught up. The Clippers

599
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are playing basketball. It's fun to watch, it's annoying to

600
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play against. But again they're all there are three games

601
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,000
over five hundred. We're not sitting in some position of

602
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:39,519
power as the Clippers right now.

603
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Speaker 1: I don't like where we are in the standings. Is

604
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the same way I feel about the Clippers ten point

605
00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:44,720
League basically.

606
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Speaker 2: Right, like that's the perfect way to put it. Like

607
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they've overplayed in some areas. I believe obviously we got

608
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,480
the best start from Norm's career. It's wonderful. The defense

609
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:56,920
I think is closer to real.

610
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Speaker 1: Than not real. But to keep out like we're we're not.

611
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Speaker 2: In a spot where we're sitting there just like, oh,

612
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:12,279
of course, it's a team that they've said constantly they're

613
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:14,559
going to open up the books after next year. It's

614
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:18,279
gonna be Okay, Adam, did you just receive some horrible news?

615
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Speaker 3: No, actually, wait a second. I could just bring my

616
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computer with me to a different studio.

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Speaker 1: The beauty of modern technology. I just brought my computer

618
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with me to get another peanut butter.

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Speaker 3: We're on the move, boys, but yeah, is with me?

620
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Speaker 1: Don't be mad if they don't make a big trade.

621
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It should be expected to just be perfect.

622
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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless everything I said was wrong and they do

623
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end up trading and one of those guys I just mentioned,

624
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But I don't think they.

625
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Speaker 3: Will well beans back on the menu.

626
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Speaker 1: Boys.

627
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Speaker 4: Oh god, no, that is not that is not what

628
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,000
the Clippers need right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know in the comments or on Twitter

630
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,440
at Clippers Pod what you think they'll do. Don't necessarily

631
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,440
send us any ideas, Just let us know if you

632
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,839
think they.

633
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Speaker 1: Work to a trade. If you're not watching the show, you're.

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Speaker 2: Missing of the iHeart radio studios from Adam oslind Right now.

635
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Speaker 1: I've just been told I can go back now.

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Speaker 2: Distraction fantastic. Before we kick it over the next segment,

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will what variety.

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Speaker 1: Are you enjoying right now? If you don't mind me asking,

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I'm enjoying an orange wine. I wish I would have

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taken a picture from the label. I actually am not

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familiar with it. It's a new one for me. Picked

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it up over at Dinovore, which is a fabulous, fabulous

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little wine shop, right after getting a haircut at a

644
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Silver Lake barbershop. None of these are ads.

645
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Speaker 2: These are just that's where I go to get my haircut.

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Speaker 1: These are things that I personally endorse. But this is

647
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in no way of paid advertisements. These are not paid advertisements.

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Speaker 2: But if you're anywhere near silver Lake Bars up, get

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a haircut from there, go there at seven in the morning,

650
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like I do.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a great way to start your day. Yeah,

652
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,279
a bottle of wine afterwards, who knows? Who knows?

653
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Speaker 2: Or perhaps anyway, I like this milk. I like this

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peanut butter stout. Not enough to promo it, all right?

655
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Coming up, we're doing a quick preview of the Wizard's

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Wolves and Nuggets game to end the week. We got

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some ads coming up for the audio listeners coming up

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in three two one.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in It's Clips and Dip. I'm Adam Moslim.

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We got Chef Mackler and will Updyke here. I'm in

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a new location at work for this one. I'm kind

662
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of enjoying it now that I realize this is a

663
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laptop and you could just carry it around with you

664
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,160
through the power of technology. I was like about to

665
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,960
grab the entire desktop and you're like, okay, guys, this

666
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over nice.

667
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:47,799
Speaker 1: We saw the gears turning in your head. You went

668
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:49,559
wait a minute, you.

669
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:51,039
Speaker 3: Saw the little monkey going like this.

670
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, were getting.

671
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:58,519
Speaker 3: So the Clippers taking on the worst team in the

672
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,880
league that has been one of the worst teams for

673
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,240
some time now, a rudderless group. But Michael Winger now

674
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,480
in charge, things will change. I like what they did

675
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:15,000
with their first round pick. They got that French guy, right, Uh.

676
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Speaker 1: Have a French guy at this point.

677
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's more mobile than Batum though they're excusing them

678
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,640
with Tom and Rudy Gobert and he's seven feet tall.

679
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:28,079
But this Wizards team is playing tonight. Obviously they are

680
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,000
in the struggle. I can I could not find one

681
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:36,680
category they thrive in defensive rate. You could say pace,

682
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:38,960
but that's just style of play. That doesn't mean anything.

683
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,759
Obviously they're top five pace and they're one of the

684
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:42,400
worst teams.

685
00:33:42,599 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: Hey, let's I know. They have a really bad record.

686
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,359
They've had the hardest schedule. Guys could turn things around.

687
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,559
Speaker 2: The funniest thing is they've their two games came in

688
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,640
a row that they've won, which what a That what

689
00:33:57,759 --> 00:33:58,640
a let down that.

690
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: They didn't lose to Boston by as much as the

691
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:04,119
Clippers did. Is there something there?

692
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: Something? Yeah? I don't know.

693
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 2: Like literally the worst team in the league, and then

694
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,079
two teams that the Clippers are ahead of the standings

695
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,880
in in the Nuggets and in the Wolves. The Nuggets,

696
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000
of course, just got embarrassed by the New York Knicks.

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Speaker 3: Surprising they're getting some asses.

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Speaker 2: Jude, Yeah, uh, what is one thing we'd like to

699
00:34:31,079 --> 00:34:33,320
see over these three games? Well, what would you like

700
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,199
to what is one thing consistently you'd like to see

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00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,280
over these three games before, of course, we pick our

702
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player of the games for these three games.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking dubs. Damn. Tyler says. Look at the board.

704
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:56,880
It says when I wrote three doves down on the

705
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,440
board and circled in, and you know what, we got them.

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Speaker 3: Everybody guess what word starts with the w Wizards.

707
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, they are bad. No, I want to see wins.

708
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:13,880
I continue good process. I'd like to see I do

709
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,079
feel like this team is doing a much better.

710
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,559
Speaker 1: Job of playing teams versus playing their records, which I

711
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,760
feel like was like kind of an intrinsic issue in

712
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,360
the two and three era. So I want to see

713
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,920
them put away that that Wizard's game, hopefully comfortably or

714
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,880
as comfortably as this team can be get some in

715
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,039
game rest for some guys, and yeah, I'd like to

716
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,280
see I want to see Norm I think in these

717
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,199
last two. So not that doesn't carry over for all three,

718
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,880
but still does that's fair.

719
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what you said about they've been playing

720
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,559
the team, not the record, Like even Bob was questionable

721
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,119
for the game against the Wizards, Adam, I'm leaning kind

722
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:56,199
of your way, thinking that maybe they hold morm out

723
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,079
for that game too. Even so, this is a Wizard.

724
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,159
They should start this end of the week off with

725
00:36:04,199 --> 00:36:04,519
a win.

726
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to see them. I don't want

727
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:11,559
to see their confidence shaken defensively because they gave up

728
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,199
twenty two threes. There were some good process out there.

729
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,719
It's not all their defense completely.

730
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,159
Speaker 1: Yeah.

731
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,559
Speaker 3: If anything, I think it's more on their offense. With

732
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,440
what happened against Boston, they could knock down enough shots

733
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,039
to hang and to set their defense, which has been

734
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:28,760
a constant issue with this team. Win they struggle, that

735
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,599
is the biggest issue. So I mean, hopefully their defense

736
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,480
goes right back to where they were after this loss

737
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,039
to the Boston Celtics and they know they have the

738
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:43,000
formula they can be a top five defense. And you know,

739
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,639
I thought they could be top eight, but without Kawhi,

740
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,559
top five is impressive. So just get back to your

741
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:51,800
same principles. It's working.

742
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, continue the good defense that I don't you know,

743
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,760
no team's going to shoot like the Celtics shot the

744
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,760
other night, so they're going to be able to build

745
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,000
on the good defensive possessions against a very bad Wizards team.

746
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,719
Interested to see what happens against the Wolves and Nuggets

747
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,880
to close this one out. There's no back to backs

748
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,519
for these three, which I was a little surprised by,

749
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:18,440
just given how annoying the schedule has been home for

750
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:23,800
the Clippers. Yeah, work on the turnovers. They were good

751
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,719
with that in the first half against the Celtics, and

752
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,280
then it just kind of crumbled, I think because they

753
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,199
just lost focus because they were getting buried by threes.

754
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,119
And yeah, not an angry JVG. If JVG isn't angry,

755
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:42,639
things are probably going well for the Clippers defensive process wise.

756
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,199
Speaker 3: I'd also like to see them This could carry over

757
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,559
from the Boston Celtics game, and I'd be happy about it.

758
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:55,039
Feeding Big Zoo. Zoo was very good against the Celtics.

759
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he killed it.

760
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: They were playing in one on one this is what happens.

761
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,320
You can detonate on you. This is why he's been

762
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,199
getting doubled so much. But Zoo has also been the

763
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,920
last couple of games, you know, against Philly, against the Kings,

764
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,079
his passing out of the short rule is getting better

765
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,760
and better. And the only way for that to happen

766
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,599
is for more double teams to come his way and

767
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,599
him to learn through it and just progress in that area.

768
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:20,639
But just play through a visa Zubos more on the

769
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:22,480
offensive end. I just want to see more of that

770
00:38:22,519 --> 00:38:23,320
as we move along.

771
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: So that's a good segue into our player of the

772
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:29,760
Game for all three game picks. You cannot actually how

773
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,119
about this? When there's three games that we have to

774
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:35,559
pick a player of the Game for, I think you

775
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:37,760
can use should it be allowed to use one of

776
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:44,280
the guys who the award is named after? Now, all right, Adam,

777
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,440
who are you picking on the Viza Zubats to play

778
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,719
well over these three games?

779
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:49,599
Speaker 3: Alrighty?

780
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: Then?

781
00:38:50,199 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: Uh, there's rules for a reason.

782
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: That's why I asked.

783
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:05,079
Speaker 3: I will go with Chris Dunn because he hasn't been

784
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:09,400
shooting the ball well recently, and I know he was

785
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,159
due for some regression there. But he's also not this

786
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,000
bad either, and he's been shooting I think under thirty

787
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,280
percent the last I don't know, handful of games here.

788
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,440
I want to see him get back to shooting much

789
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,280
better from the outside. He is currently. Oh, this is

790
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,119
worse than I thought.

791
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: It's bad.

792
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is four for his last fourteen from the outside. Uh,

793
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,519
he's seven for his last twenty from the outside. He

794
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,519
is eight for his last twenty seven from the outside.

795
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,639
That's the number I was looking for. So I want

796
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:46,360
to see him knock down some threes. I know the

797
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,920
defense is going to be there. I know he's gonna

798
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,360
do all the little things right. You mentioned how many

799
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,559
of the good lineups include him in there when you're

800
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,679
looking at lineup tools, Chris dun is my player to

801
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,199
watch over all these three games. There we go, three games,

802
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,519
Chris Dune hitting threes again.

803
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: Will your player of the game for these next three games?

804
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a This is a tough one. I

805
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:18,119
wanted to go wild and say, maybe Kevin Porter Junior

806
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:22,239
could have three games with let's call it forty eight

807
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,320
percent or better from the field, But I don't know

808
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,920
if I'm not. I don't know if I'm that brain.

809
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,400
I don't know if I'm not daring.

810
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: I mean that would be they would need that if

811
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:31,000
if norms are going to be not going to be

812
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:31,360
there for at.

813
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Least one of them.

814
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:34,119
Speaker 3: He literally just had a ten game stretch where he

815
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:34,880
shot forty seven.

816
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: I said, forty eight or about that?

817
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: All right?

818
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: The answer was, uh, so you picking Adam Gambles And

819
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,440
he tells his book you know it was close enough.

820
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,480
It was forty seven, you know over it was.

821
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's not that wild. You could do

822
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,760
it over three games?

823
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: Are you picking KBJ? Sure? You know what? Sure, Adam's

824
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,320
now my bookie. I'm getting my legs broken after this

825
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,840
pic for sure.

826
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: Maybe he's bullying me into the KPJA pig. I think

827
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,760
I'm gonna go. I've been picking Derek Jones Junior a lot,

828
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,639
and I think he's been proving me right a little

829
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:23,639
bit because he has been very good. I'm going to

830
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,880
merre coffee. He has not been playing that well against

831
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,320
the seventy six ers. He was fine against the Celtics.

832
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,679
Throw the tape out. I think it's gonna be a

833
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,400
mere coffee. He's the kind of guy rotation spot wise

834
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,559
where it's needed to continue this kind of plus twenty

835
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:41,039
five ability streak.

836
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: But the Clippers are.

837
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: Getting from guys and this these two thirds of these

838
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,239
are hard opponents. Like I know the standings, say what

839
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,639
they say, but like we're gonna get some weird Russ

840
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,639
vengeance right, Like the Timberwolves are huge that Anthony Edwards

841
00:41:56,639 --> 00:42:01,280
continuously kind of kills us, Like amer Coffee is gonna

842
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,280
need to be huge all three games.

843
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: I'd just like to point out that not one of

844
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,559
us shows terrace Man. Yet you guys won't.

845
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: I didn't say I.

846
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: Would.

847
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: What's the pick? And I said I would, what's the pick?

848
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,519
The social fabric of this country.

849
00:42:21,039 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 3: It's a pick. It's one of those.

850
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,599
Speaker 1: I really like the Chris Dunn pick. Another like the

851
00:42:25,639 --> 00:42:27,599
Wizards kind of throw a mentioning this. But another guy

852
00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:30,400
I'm really excited to see how he does in these

853
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,800
games is Derek Jones Jr. Just because he's a guy

854
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,800
who figures to be in our starting rotation in the playoffs.

855
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,800
You got two top Western Conference opponents. Uh, I'm curious

856
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,920
what this with this new look starting lineup looks like.

857
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,039
And he's you know, not named in the awards, so

858
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,519
he's just my guy to watch. I gotta watch. That's

859
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:51,239
entirely fair.

860
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: That about wraps it up. Some games coming up for

861
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,800
the Clippers, maybe some post game wives. It's Thanksgiving week,

862
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,519
we're all doing stuff.

863
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,519
Speaker 1: We might be a little we're probably chilling. All right, Well,

864
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:06,400
Will's gonna do the post game live for you on Wednesday.

865
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,079
Speaker 3: Sounds like a lot of dumb.

866
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like Will's gotta be on. We're all

867
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,039
got some family activities that we're getting up to you.

868
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:18,519
Hope everyone is having a good holiday week. By the way,

869
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,800
things are going smoothly for you and this rainy Los Angeles.

870
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: A couple of days.

871
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Will Now that people are gathered around the table, they're

872
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,039
sharing how they really feel. Where can your cousin reveal

873
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,119
what that day podcast they've been listening to all day

874
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,639
in their room has been during Thanksgiving dinner?

875
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. You can either share with your family

876
00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:42,159
or choose to withdraw from your family by listening to

877
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:44,880
this show. Wherever you get your podcast, if you happen

878
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,320
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00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,079
leave a little rating and review over there. We would

880
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,519
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881
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:56,760
is still over on YouTube dot com. That's at Clippers Podcast.

882
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,440
But hey, however you watch you listen, We're thank for

883
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,920
you and as always we appreciate you. We very much do,

884
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:05,000
Adam Osland.

885
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: Unless you've got a time out at some point, well,

886
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,800
timeout is different.

887
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: We still like you, but you're in time out. Yeah,

888
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,800
it hurts us more than it hurts you. Not for me.

889
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:18,119
I love putting people on time out on YouTube. It

890
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:21,400
is one of my favorite things. I say time out.

891
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: Especially when they come back and say something to give time.

892
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,159
Speaker 2: My favorite is don't put me into time out because

893
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:32,599
it's just come full circle from such a child. It's

894
00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:36,440
like the digital dunce cap, like we're somehow all right.

895
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,039
Speaker 4: Before we get out here, Adam Oslin, one positive thing,

896
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,679
just send these Clippers fans out if they're preparing meals

897
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,400
or if they're just waiting to go eat meals that

898
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,320
have been prepared, give them one positive thing.

899
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: Well, if you like green Bean cast role, it's coming

900
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,760
soon like I do. That's my favorite side.

901
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: But uh, you're gonna miss something art Thanksgiving.

902
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: This Clippers team, they've exceeded my expectations defensively, far exceeded

903
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:11,599
my expectations with their rebounding and the camaraderie and the

904
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,559
unity on this team has been special so far. They

905
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,679
like each other, they like playing for one another, They

906
00:45:18,679 --> 00:45:22,440
are thankful for one another. They are doing everything that

907
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,599
they talked about so far in training camp. For the

908
00:45:24,599 --> 00:45:27,519
first time coming out of training camp and actually exercising

909
00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:34,320
and executing everything they talked about. It's just impressive. I'm

910
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,719
I'm really impressed with this squad. I love this team.

911
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Adam Oson impressed with this squad, loves this trade. Yeah trade.

912
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,639
Speaker 2: We'll be back with y'all at some point, probably closer

913
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,639
the next week. Hope everyone has a good break again.

914
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,360
Thank you so much for listening, and as always, let's

915
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,880
go clips.

