Speaker 1: What is going on?
Speaker 2: Clippers fans, Welcome to season three, episode thirty of Clips
and Dip.
Speaker 1: The whole crew is back. I am Jehn.
Speaker 2: Blackler, joined by William Updyke and Adam Austlin.
Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging out with us today.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be talking the duality of the Clippers last
back to back and maybe what it told us about
the team, or if it just reiterated things we perhaps
already knew, some trade talk stuff for about two weeks
away from when a decent chunk of guys can be traded,
and then a short quick preview of the three games
to end the week. If you're listening to us, thank
you for listening. If you're watching, thank you for watching.
If you'd like to view us do this podcast, you
can find us at YouTube dot com plash at Clippers podcast.
Fellas Elephant in the Room. Adam Oslin has a professional
new setup. He's blowing us out of the water with professionalism. Adam,
how you doing?
Speaker 3: I mean, I wish I had this setup of my apartment,
but the truth is I've been too loud there. So
I came in to work to record at iHeart and
likely the Clipper studio is typically not in use, so
I got it right now.
Speaker 1: Can't imagine why. I can't imagine why.
Speaker 2: The man bringing Adam Oslin's podcasting down will do you
have any apartment situations like Adams? Right now?
Speaker 1: Are you doing good? As the Clippers just slip this
back to back? I'm doing great. I have like a
pretty like my unit is like pretty detached from stuff,
so I can be as loud as I want over
here pretty quickly. Am No, I'm doing good. This was
a rough I mean, this was a rough loss, but
an expected one. I think like there was definitely going
to be a game that there will likely be more
than one game where the Clippers get their teeth kicked in.
And that's just what it is, and it's going to happen.
At least it's too a team that's like on the
level of Boston, you know, it's not happening to like
the Maverick or something which would feel a lot worse.
And yes, that is shots fire, yeah, and yeah, I
just complete a little five k in the rain, So
I'm feeling good this guy. Damn. I'm drinking a peanut
butter stout. I poured myself a healthy glass of wine afterwards,
got for the recovery. I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I like what you said about kind of being an
expected loss. They smoke the seventy six ers, who are
very bad. Right now, we're Adam, were you surprised? I mean,
the avalanche in the second quarter was incredible from the Celtics,
But were we surprised that the Clippers lost this game,
even kind of in the fashion they did.
Speaker 1: This is no knock on the Clippers. It's just that
Celtics team is.
Speaker 3: No I said, you got to hold them to fifteen
threes or less heading in, and they had sixteen at
the half. And that's what happens when you run into
it seemed this good that takes fifty threes per game.
If they get hot, you have no chance, I guess
them unless you're Golden State with KD. I don't know
who's beating that team last night because they spread you
out and therefore if you try to run them off
the line, they have a free ride to the basket
for an easy two. There's just no way to beat
a team like the Boston Celtics when they're running like that.
It's funny because the Clippers they played the exact same
defense in the first quarter they played in the second quarter,
and the first quarter Boston started one for eleven from three.
The second quarter they started nine for eleven. So it
kind of tells you that a lot of this is
out of your control, Like when a team is that
hot from the outside, there's not much you can do.
So takes all us in that, I guess. And it
wasn't Dallas Mavericks, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was.
Speaker 2: The contested shots were crazy. I saw you posted the
screenshot of it on Twitter, just how many contested shots
they hit just in the second quarter. And there were
some defensive lapses, like we saw a couple there's some
Pritchard threes where like the bench reacted crazy, and they
talked about kind of not being locked in. But again,
the second night of a back to back, they split
the back to back, which I think expectationis for the Slippers.
Team feels pretty good, especially without Norm Powell, who we
did get some good news today.
Speaker 1: Well, and this is like kind of an aside, but
this is kind of always my thing, like it doesn't
matter if it really truly doesn't matter if you're the
best defense in the NBA. The way the game is officiated,
the way it's regulated, it's like it's it's a heavily
leaning offensive game. And I'm not saying that's wrong. It's
more aesthetically pleasing to watch. But it does like, even
if you were the absolute best defense in the NBA,
you can't stop everything. You know, like it's just there
the way the game is played, and like I said,
the way that it's officiated is really beyond your control,
even if you aren't the best of the best defensively.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the other thing too, the defensive
rating didn't drop, right, Adam. You were tweeting about that,
like it's we're still fifth or sixth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fifth heading into that game. It was
fifth heading out of that game, which was a little
bit surprising. I thought they might drop two spots, but
as games, to the point they're almost a game twenty things,
storry to settle a little bit with some of these numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking at the best two man lineups
because I wanted Chris dun and Derek Jones Junior have
been I mean more than advertised when they were brought
on with the team so far, I think, especially defensively,
we knew they'd be good, but this is appairing in
two hundred and eleven minutes. Their plus sixty one just
good for a team that had a really got a
bad starting lineup plus minus fiz for a while. And
if you look up the Clippers two man lineup stats
and shift to totals, Chris Dunn, I think is in
four of the five like the impact that these guys
are bringing together and that that starting lineup switch, like
there was I think a good thing about this loss
was there was no question, like it wasn't a lineup issue, right,
like they they just got braided by Celtics threes and
this issue, Well sure, yeah, but I didn't you know,
nothing made me think different of the Clippers after that loss.
Speaker 3: Outlier, Throw it away, burn the tape, kill it with fire.
There's not much you could do. They hit twelve threes
in the second quarter. They went for the most points
ever that a team has in a quarter against the Clippers,
where they tied it with fifty one. I just they
hit their first six threes in the second quarter, and
there were a couple lapses, but it was like three
or four, Like I don't know, I don't know what
you do against Boston, they are an unsolvable problem.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see him in the finals, I believe in
As Will says, it's gonna be a pretty good series
for the Clippers. Norm being out was a big issue
having you know, there's only so many scoring threats the
Clippers have if Norm.
Speaker 1: Powell is out for this one.
Speaker 2: He has been upgraded to questionable for the game against Washington,
which is great. Would be happy to for him to
come back there.
Speaker 1: The Clippers sit.
Speaker 2: At eleven and eight. Will, does eleven and eight feel
fair to you?
Speaker 1: Like, how are we feeling?
Speaker 2: Almost twenty games in, they've had a ten point lead
in every game, threeing one without Norm?
Speaker 1: How are we feeling. I'm feeling pretty good about that. Yeah,
eleven and eight, Like three games over five hundred, I
feel like, is really pretty decent for this stretch of
the season to be just under twenty games. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We did the ten game check in and we were
all kind of like, if we're over five hundred and twenty,
but we're nearly a corporate.
Speaker 1: Way through the season, and I mean, that's that's pretty reasonable.
Especially settled. Yeah, I mean, especially given no Kauai and
you know, now know norm power for an extended.
Speaker 2: For cent and run, Adam is eleven and eight. Fair
to you to this point for the Clippers, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think they've exceeded everyone's expectations. I said just to
stay around five hundred, and they're three games above it
right now with one of the toughest schedules in the league.
With they've had five back to back instances so far,
so what ten of their nineteen games have been here
on the front end or the back them a back
to back? I am that's thoroughly impressed. Defensively, they've been
even better than I thought, and I thought they'd be
pretty damn good, but it's held up so far. They
haven't had a lot of slippage, even though their offense
has still been bottom ten pretty consistently. And the thing
that surprised me most that I never saw coming was
just the rebounding. They are the third best team when
it comes to rebounding percentage. They are the first. They're
the best team when it comes to defensive rebounding percentage.
And all that talk about oh they need a power forward,
they need this, they're rebounding. They're doing it. They're showing
that you can get it done even with smaller guys
out there, if they just apparently have the will and
the want two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, And I think like the will and
the want to is kind of what Clippers fans have
been missing from the team for the past couple of seasons, right, Like,
there's always been this idea of like they're not playing
how people want them to play or how they should be,
you know, looking on the court and stuff like that.
The rebounds point to that, and I think the not
giving up, I guess, like, not that I'm not gonna
say they gave up last year, but this team wants
to try and win every single game. I think it's
very evident in a different way than last year. I
am interested to see how the integration of Norm back
into the lineup goes. Norm's obviously great. I'm not worried about,
you know, like the fit exactly, just the shooting and
how long it's going to take him to get back
from the hamstring thing, because it is impressive. Three and
one without Norm Powell is not necessarily what I expected
if he was going to miss four games, But that
integration is going to be interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully he picks up where he left off. Because
they wouldn't have won that last game without him, and
he played through it, played hurt. What was that the
Golden State game where he came back from the hammy
and played through and look great and hit those big
shots down the stretch off the feeds from James hard
as he was just curling around the perimeter. So they
need him. Last night was a pretty big indication of that,
Like you can have a great defense all you want,
Like what was saying in today's league, things are slanted
towards helping the offenses and the three point shooting, and
I just think there's more tough shot makers than they've
ever happened in the league. Like the shooting is so
crazy compared to how it used to be. You gotta
have some firepower on your side too. They need Norm
Powell really bad, really bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like knife to a gunfight scenario
down in Boston.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know, it's uh, but he's coming back hopefully.
Speaker 2: I he'll probably play on Sunday or sorry not Sunday against.
Speaker 1: The Wizards. I would think.
Speaker 3: I wonder if they're trying to get one more game
without him, just because it's the Wizards. They've won three.
Speaker 2: Games, the worst team in the league. Yeah, any final
thoughts on how this team has been so far. I
figured we'd get kind of the twenty game talk through
out of the way. I think it's, well, how much
stock do you put into the having a ten point
lead in every single game so far?
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, very little. But it is impressive to
see it is It is impressive to see the Clippers.
It is impressive to see the Clippers start strong, like
that's just not something that we've been accustomed to in
years past. And I mean it's a little bit more
troubling when you see like the starters come out of
the half really really flat. Like that's troubling because I
do feel like this team used to be pretty good
at third quarter adjustments despite some of their slow starts.
But I mean it's, you know, it's a different squad,
it's a different look, and to be able to get
them momentum going, especially when they're setting the tone defensively,
which allows them to get into their offense so much
more efficiently. It's yeah, I mean, it's great to see,
but it's you know, like I said, especially with games
being like so offensive, so offensive minded, like you're going
to run into difficulties, and I mean you get a
few early flat you get a few early fouls. I mean,
it completely changes the entire landscape for the game. So
it's you know, it's like we talked about it, it's
just these very thin margins. So no ten points to me,
doesn't feel that comfortable, That doesn't feel that padded.
Speaker 2: I like what you said because that's kind of the
point of the Celtics game, right, Like they were hitting
so many contested shots. Even if you're playing a defense,
you're still not being rewarded with necessarily like a positive
possession because they still scored, and then the offense got slow.
Speaker 1: Tyler.
Speaker 2: You talked about it. He was like, we were not
initiating things fast enough. This team is built on the
good defense helps the offense, which does need help. And
you know that's why I guess, you know, I don't
put too much stock into the way they lost against
the Celtics because they at least like they were just
fifteeral points in a quarter. But yeah, I think I
agree with you. The ten The ten point lead thing
is cool, but it would be a lot cooler even
just five years ago, I guess because totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I guess I phrased that around the Clippers,
but I mean ten points is not that big of
a lead for any team. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Will's point though, talking about them getting off to
good starts and we're not used to that. It is funny.
I just checked the plus minus in first quarters this year.
They're six. They're a plus forty seven in first quarters.
Speaker 2: Jesus, that's awesome. Yeah, it's a new era.
Speaker 3: Seriously, oh man, And they had some bad starts. I
think a lot of this is just over the last
ten games or so, you know, because the starting lineup
wasn't doing well early on, when Terrence Man was still
in it. I think they were minus at that point.
Speaker 2: They're absolutely minus at that point. Coming up, we're gonna
be talking some trade eligibility stuff. It's almost December fifteenth.
People have been talking some trade things. They have ideas.
If you're watching us on YouTube dot com Slash at
Clippers Podcast, we're not going anywhere. If you're listening to us,
thank you for listening. But there's gonna be a quick
audio break and then some trade talk coming up in
three two one.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in to clips and dip your
favorite Clippers podcast, maybe your favorite NBA podcast, I don't know,
talked about how the Clippers are doing so far this season.
Are run on it now, I mean, kind of what
everyone wants to talk about. I feel like it's to
a certain subsection of fans, maybe more important than the games.
But December fifteenth is coming up, which makes a lot
of players trade eligible. It makes things kind of interesting.
If you're if you're into you know, Recliner GMing, if
you will, if you're into screenshots, trade machines, maybe it
is your season. So we got to talk about that.
Let's just kick things off. I mean, I've kind of
said my opinion on this one and it still hasn't
really changed. I feel like it's difficult for the Clippers
to make an acquisition given that they are three games
about above five hundred without Kawhi Leonards, Like you're in
such a bizarre limbo, Like is it is that enough
to try to make a big swing, leverage what little
assets you have for you know, for a better rotation.
I would say probably power forward, I think is what
I would aim for. Where are you at, Adam? Is
there anyone who is sort of tickling your fancy in
this upcoming December fifteenth free agent class.
Speaker 3: I don't know, given that the Clippers are eleven and
eight and that we still don't know the status of
Kawhi Leonard. In fact, the update yesterday was more of
the same and made me less hopeful. Honestly. That came
from Wat Murray. Like, he's doing some box work, he's
shooting a little bit, he's progressing. We're talking about an
injury from late March, like late March, we're talking about this,
and I would categorize this as a setback at this point.
Like I know, it doesn't mean that he has re
injured anything or anything like that, but he's not playing
yet and we're almost twenty games in and he's not
playing tomorrow either. He's not doing much basketball work, So
I don't know where we're at with that. It could
be as simple as well, they're eleven and eight, so
they can hold back Kawhi even more and preserve him
and try to wait till they really need him to
make that push for the playoffs, yeah, and then getting
him as healthy as possible for the big, biggest moments.
So I understand if that's your logic, but I just
I don't know. That was a little bit concerning hearing
that stuff yesterday because we weren't sure about the shooting
and what he meant, you know, a week ago coach
and talking about it. Yeah, and it just seems like
he's not doing much, he's not participating in much, and
it's about to be December here, so for me, maybe
that means best case scenario, he's back in January, That's
my guess. So I just don't know why you would
make moves until you know where Kawhi Leonard is at.
I can understand looking at a power forward. Look, if
a good trade comes along and you don't have to
give up much, sure, or let's say, I don't know,
you move Terrence Man because you feel like you have
a surplus of those guys now and you have a
position of need. Maybe with getting a big man who
can shoot a little bit that can be playable in
small ball lineups. That's interesting to me. But I'm just
not giving up future assets. I'm not making any big
swings to say, hey, we're going all in for this
season until I know more about Kauai.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big swing seems very much off the table
for the Clippers, Like, there's only really Terrence Mann feels
like the only guy who is And I'm not using
this term in any kind of mean way or anything
like that. You look at the roster, you said, there's
kind of a glut of these guys who kind of
maybe do a similar thing as Terrence Man. He's the
only guy that seems like that would be moved right
now from this team if a trade were to happen,
That would be the most logical person I can see
the Clippers. Uh, here's who can be traded after December
fifteenth on the Clippers, And I don't think any of
these guys are being traded. James Harden, Derek Jones Junior,
nicolebet Christop, Kevin Porter Junior, and Mobomba. None of those
guys are going anywhere for the Clippers.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: Maybe Mobiba, but I don't know, you're not getting anything
for him, So I just I Yeah, the weird limbo
is a perfect way to put it. This team is
maximizing a lot of its pieces right now, right like
we're getting that thing where everyone's kind of playing plus
fifteen percent except for Tery.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's kind of the double edged sort
of out performing, right, Like it you're doing so well
that like even for some of these guys that you
could sell on high value, it's kind of like, man,
do you really want to get rid of normal? Like
you're three games above five hundred, Like you have like
a five to eighty winning percentage without Kawhi Leonard, Like
I mean, you have to like, to me, that makes
a team, like you would really have to sweeten a
deal to kind of make that go. We'll see how
things look, you know, closer to the All Star break.
But like it puts you in a very bizarre position like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, plucky underdog where everyone is overplaying. It's like, well,
they're not going to accept bad trades because we don't.
Speaker 1: Have Because I mean, if you would have told me
coming into this season, you know it's gonna be December,
there's still no quiet day, so he's likely not playing
until after the All Star break, Like I would say,
I mean, I maybe try to scrounge together some assets
because it's a little bit questionable what you're gonna be
able to do. But if you have like a five
eighty winning percentage and you know, like things are looking
all right, you're still sitting out of the plane as
of a quarter of the way through the season, It's like, well,
I don't know, man, Like, are you really ready to
like commit to like a I mean, it could be
more of a retool than a rebuild, but like, are
you really committed to the retool midway through the season.
I mean, because at that point you're totally punting. You
have to totally punt on the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if they're also you know, we've talked
about this, but far behind the Houston Rockets, it is
time to play the young guys. Because if you're already
not holding on to that number one pick and you're
going to have the twenty ninth or the thirtieth pick
from OKC, dude to pick swap, then I'm probably the
thinking the best thing you can do now is at
least develop the guys who are on your roster, like
give them plenty of run. But yeah, I just don't
see I would stand pat right now outside of PJ. Tucker, Bones, Highland, Terrence, Man,
I don't see anybody you don't want to give up
on Norman Powell right now because he is a fan favorite.
You can say he's you're selling high or.
Speaker 2: Oh, they would be selling the value for trade. The
value for Norman Powell right now for a basketball contract
is the highest that it will ever be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean it should still be pretty high
around the trade deadline when they have more absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying like an immediate trade, but like
that's what I mean, Like it's there. If they were
to entertain a trade idea, they would never get more
for normal pal than they would right now.
Speaker 3: And James Harden, I think is going to be looked
at around the trade deadline if they're below five hundred.
He's on a one to one contract, Like you have
to think about it. Everybody interesting has to be considered.
Speaker 1: But everyone's a suspect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, I think people are still suspicious on
how good this Clippers team is as we move forward here,
so we'll see.
Speaker 2: That's a good call too, Like is this team in
a really really a three game above five hundred team
or because the defense I think is set for the
most part, I think it's a very good defense. I
have no problem thinking he's going to finish top ten
if the personnel stays the same like it is right now.
Speaker 1: But with the bottom offense, I mean, I would say
sixth is a little suspect some things going in your favor.
You have had a very difficult schedule thus far. Yeah,
so like that, I mean, like that is a point
for points against. I mean, this is still an older
roster and you're still you are still one more like
even brief injury away from like just from kind of
being in the absolute garbage of teams. Like if James
aren't misses four games, one of those four games, that
is gonna be some brutal to watch. You have been
sniping this episode.
Speaker 3: It's funny because you're not.
Speaker 2: Wrong, though, dude, Like it's yeah, I light all the candles,
you know, I'm knocking on wood.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying that anything is gonna happen, but like,
you know, people miss games. It doesn't even have to
be a serious injury. And we've like we've outside of
Norman Power, which even this stand is pretty short. Like
we've been pretty lucky, which is a little that's part
of the Markers fan a little worrisome things are going
too good.
Speaker 3: They're a game and a half up on the eleventh
seed in the Minnesota Wolves. Yes, well they are only
three games back up the number one seed. Uh, the
eleven seed is even closer to them. They're kissing it
and this Clippers team, it's just it's still far too
early in the season. I'm just not going all in
and I'm not doing something that's a lateral move unless
I can improve in a different area. Like you talked about,
they have a glut and a surplus of wings, and
Terrence Man might be seen as more expendable. Plus he
hasn't been playing that well. But does that help your
trade value with him? No, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you get this, do you
want him?
Speaker 3: I know what people are gonna be saying tomorrow, get
Kyle Kuzma, like that's already going.
Speaker 1: To be happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't think he's contingent. That
contingent though, has been very vocal for years now.
Speaker 2: Is that second place to uh Collins in terms of
one of the most talked about Yeah, Clippers trade guys.
Speaker 3: And then Jeremy Grant's bringing up the rear.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know how they'd make an offer
that's better than what half the league could make for
Kyle Kuzman At least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, without adding someone like a betweenity. But like the
Wizards are trying to lose, so it's not like they
want a guy who's gonna play good basketball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they want young assets and future draft equity.
They want stuff that the Clippers don't have. Like that's
that's why you're in a weird spot too, is like
what you have is not like what the teams are
really looking for, you know, Like and even Norm Powell,
It's like that's a guy that like is probably going
to go to a contender or someone who's hoping to
be like a you know, like volte themselves into playoff status.
So Twitter guy is the perfect description. Like what are
they really you know, like what do they really have
to offer you? Like they if you know, if they
have a lot of draft draftic equity, you could probably
get that, But you're not getting anything that's gonna be
a return on investment for this year. So that's why
I was saying, like it's an absolute, like you have
to commit to absolutely punting on this year.
Speaker 3: How would you guys feel if they could get a
late first round pick for Terrence Man? Would you do
a deal like that? Man?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be perfectly honest.
Speaker 2: My heart is says no, but my my brain absolutely
says yeah, Like it would suck. It would really suck
to lose Terrence Man the year the year after we
give him a contract. He's been through so much stuff
with this franchise. But I understand for a team that
because that's a move that you can do if you're not,
you know, bad at the trade deadline, right Like, that's
a move that it would still make sense long term.
It's because they need picks. We can't talk about how
they don't have any of this stuff. And then if
it comes up for a guy who I know. I
love Terrence, I love him as the Clippers, but I
could see them doing that trade.
Speaker 1: I'd have to give it. I gotta be honest, I'd
have to give it a hearty e because what is
the other move, right Like, if we're gonna if we're
gonna trade away James harden and or Kawhi Leonard and
strip this thing down, Yeah, give him up. Let's get
a first. My thing right now is like, okay, so
what year is that first? Let's say next year? Great,
So how much playing time are we going to be
able to get them in that year. How long is
it going to take to develop this theoretical prospect? Like
I I understand, and I do, I do see the
value in that, especially if you want to package that
pick with a different move, But again, that means you're
kind of committing to punting on this year. I feel
like you're losing a rotation player for for you know,
very little, for something that's you know, for to match Sallery,
something probably worse than Terrence and a future asset. And
then like again, the future asset is nice, are you
going to try to trade that before the draft? And
then if so, like you, I mean, you still got
to send out something else of value, So I don't know.
So it's it's kind of I need, I need, I
need to know more about the deal, Like this isn't
like that. I like the hypothetical and it is a
difficult decision, but like more, I need to know a
little bit more about this deal.
Speaker 2: I think they probably used the pick in a deal
once the books opened up more to do a similar
obviously not as big of a swing, because I think
those as possible anymore with the new cap stuff, as
they did with PG. Like I think they would be
somehow lumped in. But that is a very that's a
good call to me.
Speaker 3: I guess I just don't see trading Terrence Man as
a punt sell off type of move. I think he's
the one guy that's the easiest guy to replicate that
you can also get something for. I think that we
all want Jordan Miller to play right. That's how he plays,
That's how he plays. More you trade Terrence Man. Like
we we talk about the minutes crunch all the time.
I'm not saying I want this, I love Terrence Man.
I'm just saying this is the one player you could move.
And I don't think you're going to have some major
drop off from losing him at this point.
Speaker 2: I don't, but we also what will just point out,
I think it's a good point if there were to
be an absence and we don't have Yeah, if we
don't have Terrence.
Speaker 1: Man to Phil because he isn't good, He's not I
know he hasn't had a good season, but he's it's
not like he's and I like, I liked he's not
He's not an immovable for me. I'm not saying that
at all, And I definitely see the logic I just
don't know, Like I I just have questions.
Speaker 3: I guess I'm looking at and who's.
Speaker 1: Giving up a first round pick? You know what I mean? Again,
that's just so you're looking at like what, Okay, say
twenty seventh pick. I mean, you know, I don't know. Yeah,
I'm just to be fair asses out right now. I
don't know that much about this upcoming draft pick. I
don't know what it's looking like at thirty if you're
if you're if you're grabbing some value there.
Speaker 2: You haven't projected your entire first round yet, Dude, it's
almost December.
Speaker 1: We're not even a corner away in a season yet. Man,
give me some.
Speaker 3: Time build your board.
Speaker 1: I haven't even had time with this draft class. Robe
wasn't built the day.
Speaker 2: My draft boards are never built in the day because
I never build them.
Speaker 3: To say that for Jerome Robinson, Jerome wasn't built in
a day.
Speaker 1: No, he was not.
Speaker 2: There's still that's it's unfinished. That version of Rome is unfinished.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: It's also I put a note in here too, it's
fine if the Clippers don't make a big swing at
this deadline. I think people are caught up and I mean,
and this makes sense. People are caught up. The Clippers
are playing basketball. It's fun to watch, it's annoying to
play against. But again they're all there are three games
over five hundred. We're not sitting in some position of
power as the Clippers right now.
Speaker 1: I don't like where we are in the standings. Is
the same way I feel about the Clippers ten point
League basically.
Speaker 2: Right, like that's the perfect way to put it. Like
they've overplayed in some areas. I believe obviously we got
the best start from Norm's career. It's wonderful. The defense
I think is closer to real.
Speaker 1: Than not real. But to keep out like we're we're not.
Speaker 2: In a spot where we're sitting there just like, oh,
of course, it's a team that they've said constantly they're
going to open up the books after next year. It's
gonna be Okay, Adam, did you just receive some horrible news?
Speaker 3: No, actually, wait a second. I could just bring my
computer with me to a different studio.
Speaker 1: The beauty of modern technology. I just brought my computer
with me to get another peanut butter.
Speaker 3: We're on the move, boys, but yeah, is with me?
Speaker 1: Don't be mad if they don't make a big trade.
It should be expected to just be perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless everything I said was wrong and they do
end up trading and one of those guys I just mentioned,
But I don't think they.
Speaker 3: Will well beans back on the menu.
Speaker 1: Boys.
Speaker 4: Oh god, no, that is not that is not what
the Clippers need right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let us know in the comments or on Twitter
at Clippers Pod what you think they'll do. Don't necessarily
send us any ideas, Just let us know if you
think they.
Speaker 1: Work to a trade. If you're not watching the show, you're.
Speaker 2: Missing of the iHeart radio studios from Adam oslind Right now.
Speaker 1: I've just been told I can go back now.
Speaker 2: Distraction fantastic. Before we kick it over the next segment,
will what variety.
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I'm enjoying an orange wine. I wish I would have
taken a picture from the label. I actually am not
familiar with it. It's a new one for me. Picked
it up over at Dinovore, which is a fabulous, fabulous
little wine shop, right after getting a haircut at a
Silver Lake barbershop. None of these are ads.
Speaker 2: These are just that's where I go to get my haircut.
Speaker 1: These are things that I personally endorse. But this is
in no way of paid advertisements. These are not paid advertisements.
Speaker 2: But if you're anywhere near silver Lake Bars up, get
a haircut from there, go there at seven in the morning,
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a great way to start your day. Yeah,
a bottle of wine afterwards, who knows? Who knows?
Speaker 2: Or perhaps anyway, I like this milk. I like this
peanut butter stout. Not enough to promo it, all right?
Coming up, we're doing a quick preview of the Wizard's
Wolves and Nuggets game to end the week. We got
some ads coming up for the audio listeners coming up
in three two one.
Speaker 3: Welcome back in It's Clips and Dip. I'm Adam Moslim.
We got Chef Mackler and will Updyke here. I'm in
a new location at work for this one. I'm kind
of enjoying it now that I realize this is a
laptop and you could just carry it around with you
through the power of technology. I was like about to
grab the entire desktop and you're like, okay, guys, this
over nice.
Speaker 1: We saw the gears turning in your head. You went
wait a minute, you.
Speaker 3: Saw the little monkey going like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, were getting.
Speaker 3: So the Clippers taking on the worst team in the
league that has been one of the worst teams for
some time now, a rudderless group. But Michael Winger now
in charge, things will change. I like what they did
with their first round pick. They got that French guy, right, Uh.
Speaker 1: Have a French guy at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's more mobile than Batum though they're excusing them
with Tom and Rudy Gobert and he's seven feet tall.
But this Wizards team is playing tonight. Obviously they are
in the struggle. I can I could not find one
category they thrive in defensive rate. You could say pace,
but that's just style of play. That doesn't mean anything.
Obviously they're top five pace and they're one of the
worst teams.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's I know. They have a really bad record.
They've had the hardest schedule. Guys could turn things around.
Speaker 2: The funniest thing is they've their two games came in
a row that they've won, which what a That what
a let down that.
Speaker 3: They didn't lose to Boston by as much as the
Clippers did. Is there something there?
Speaker 1: Something? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like literally the worst team in the league, and then
two teams that the Clippers are ahead of the standings
in in the Nuggets and in the Wolves. The Nuggets,
of course, just got embarrassed by the New York Knicks.
Speaker 3: Surprising they're getting some asses.
Speaker 2: Jude, Yeah, uh, what is one thing we'd like to
see over these three games? Well, what would you like
to what is one thing consistently you'd like to see
over these three games before, of course, we pick our
player of the games for these three games.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking dubs. Damn. Tyler says. Look at the board.
It says when I wrote three doves down on the
board and circled in, and you know what, we got them.
Speaker 3: Everybody guess what word starts with the w Wizards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, they are bad. No, I want to see wins.
I continue good process. I'd like to see I do
feel like this team is doing a much better.
Speaker 1: Job of playing teams versus playing their records, which I
feel like was like kind of an intrinsic issue in
the two and three era. So I want to see
them put away that that Wizard's game, hopefully comfortably or
as comfortably as this team can be get some in
game rest for some guys, and yeah, I'd like to
see I want to see Norm I think in these
last two. So not that doesn't carry over for all three,
but still does that's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what you said about they've been playing
the team, not the record, Like even Bob was questionable
for the game against the Wizards, Adam, I'm leaning kind
of your way, thinking that maybe they hold morm out
for that game too. Even so, this is a Wizard.
They should start this end of the week off with
a win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to see them. I don't want
to see their confidence shaken defensively because they gave up
twenty two threes. There were some good process out there.
It's not all their defense completely.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If anything, I think it's more on their offense. With
what happened against Boston, they could knock down enough shots
to hang and to set their defense, which has been
a constant issue with this team. Win they struggle, that
is the biggest issue. So I mean, hopefully their defense
goes right back to where they were after this loss
to the Boston Celtics and they know they have the
formula they can be a top five defense. And you know,
I thought they could be top eight, but without Kawhi,
top five is impressive. So just get back to your
same principles. It's working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, continue the good defense that I don't you know,
no team's going to shoot like the Celtics shot the
other night, so they're going to be able to build
on the good defensive possessions against a very bad Wizards team.
Interested to see what happens against the Wolves and Nuggets
to close this one out. There's no back to backs
for these three, which I was a little surprised by,
just given how annoying the schedule has been home for
the Clippers. Yeah, work on the turnovers. They were good
with that in the first half against the Celtics, and
then it just kind of crumbled, I think because they
just lost focus because they were getting buried by threes.
And yeah, not an angry JVG. If JVG isn't angry,
things are probably going well for the Clippers defensive process wise.
Speaker 3: I'd also like to see them This could carry over
from the Boston Celtics game, and I'd be happy about it.
Feeding Big Zoo. Zoo was very good against the Celtics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he killed it.
Speaker 3: They were playing in one on one this is what happens.
You can detonate on you. This is why he's been
getting doubled so much. But Zoo has also been the
last couple of games, you know, against Philly, against the Kings,
his passing out of the short rule is getting better
and better. And the only way for that to happen
is for more double teams to come his way and
him to learn through it and just progress in that area.
But just play through a visa Zubos more on the
offensive end. I just want to see more of that
as we move along.
Speaker 2: So that's a good segue into our player of the
Game for all three game picks. You cannot actually how
about this? When there's three games that we have to
pick a player of the Game for, I think you
can use should it be allowed to use one of
the guys who the award is named after? Now, all right, Adam,
who are you picking on the Viza Zubats to play
well over these three games?
Speaker 3: Alrighty?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: Uh, there's rules for a reason.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked.
Speaker 3: I will go with Chris Dunn because he hasn't been
shooting the ball well recently, and I know he was
due for some regression there. But he's also not this
bad either, and he's been shooting I think under thirty
percent the last I don't know, handful of games here.
I want to see him get back to shooting much
better from the outside. He is currently. Oh, this is
worse than I thought.
Speaker 1: It's bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is four for his last fourteen from the outside. Uh,
he's seven for his last twenty from the outside. He
is eight for his last twenty seven from the outside.
That's the number I was looking for. So I want
to see him knock down some threes. I know the
defense is going to be there. I know he's gonna
do all the little things right. You mentioned how many
of the good lineups include him in there when you're
looking at lineup tools, Chris dun is my player to
watch over all these three games. There we go, three games,
Chris Dune hitting threes again.
Speaker 2: Will your player of the game for these next three games?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a This is a tough one. I
wanted to go wild and say, maybe Kevin Porter Junior
could have three games with let's call it forty eight
percent or better from the field, But I don't know
if I'm not. I don't know if I'm that brain.
I don't know if I'm not daring.
Speaker 4: I mean that would be they would need that if
if norms are going to be not going to be
there for at.
Speaker 1: Least one of them.
Speaker 3: He literally just had a ten game stretch where he
shot forty seven.
Speaker 1: I said, forty eight or about that?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: The answer was, uh, so you picking Adam Gambles And
he tells his book you know it was close enough.
It was forty seven, you know over it was.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's not that wild. You could do
it over three games?
Speaker 1: Are you picking KBJ? Sure? You know what? Sure, Adam's
now my bookie. I'm getting my legs broken after this
pic for sure.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's bullying me into the KPJA pig. I think
I'm gonna go. I've been picking Derek Jones Junior a lot,
and I think he's been proving me right a little
bit because he has been very good. I'm going to
merre coffee. He has not been playing that well against
the seventy six ers. He was fine against the Celtics.
Throw the tape out. I think it's gonna be a
mere coffee. He's the kind of guy rotation spot wise
where it's needed to continue this kind of plus twenty
five ability streak.
Speaker 1: But the Clippers are.
Speaker 2: Getting from guys and this these two thirds of these
are hard opponents. Like I know the standings, say what
they say, but like we're gonna get some weird Russ
vengeance right, Like the Timberwolves are huge that Anthony Edwards
continuously kind of kills us, Like amer Coffee is gonna
need to be huge all three games.
Speaker 3: I'd just like to point out that not one of
us shows terrace Man. Yet you guys won't.
Speaker 1: I didn't say I.
Speaker 3: Would.
Speaker 1: What's the pick? And I said I would, what's the pick?
The social fabric of this country.
Speaker 3: It's a pick. It's one of those.
Speaker 1: I really like the Chris Dunn pick. Another like the
Wizards kind of throw a mentioning this. But another guy
I'm really excited to see how he does in these
games is Derek Jones Jr. Just because he's a guy
who figures to be in our starting rotation in the playoffs.
You got two top Western Conference opponents. Uh, I'm curious
what this with this new look starting lineup looks like.
And he's you know, not named in the awards, so
he's just my guy to watch. I gotta watch. That's
entirely fair.
Speaker 2: That about wraps it up. Some games coming up for
the Clippers, maybe some post game wives. It's Thanksgiving week,
we're all doing stuff.
Speaker 1: We might be a little we're probably chilling. All right, Well,
Will's gonna do the post game live for you on Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a lot of dumb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like Will's gotta be on. We're all
got some family activities that we're getting up to you.
Hope everyone is having a good holiday week. By the way,
things are going smoothly for you and this rainy Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: A couple of days.
Speaker 2: Will Now that people are gathered around the table, they're
sharing how they really feel. Where can your cousin reveal
what that day podcast they've been listening to all day
in their room has been during Thanksgiving dinner?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. You can either share with your family
or choose to withdraw from your family by listening to
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But hey, however you watch you listen, We're thank for
you and as always we appreciate you. We very much do,
Adam Osland.
Speaker 3: Unless you've got a time out at some point, well,
timeout is different.
Speaker 1: We still like you, but you're in time out. Yeah,
it hurts us more than it hurts you. Not for me.
I love putting people on time out on YouTube. It
is one of my favorite things. I say time out.
Speaker 3: Especially when they come back and say something to give time.
Speaker 2: My favorite is don't put me into time out because
it's just come full circle from such a child. It's
like the digital dunce cap, like we're somehow all right.
Speaker 4: Before we get out here, Adam Oslin, one positive thing,
just send these Clippers fans out if they're preparing meals
or if they're just waiting to go eat meals that
have been prepared, give them one positive thing.
Speaker 3: Well, if you like green Bean cast role, it's coming
soon like I do. That's my favorite side.
Speaker 1: But uh, you're gonna miss something art Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: This Clippers team, they've exceeded my expectations defensively, far exceeded
my expectations with their rebounding and the camaraderie and the
unity on this team has been special so far. They
like each other, they like playing for one another, They
are thankful for one another. They are doing everything that
they talked about so far in training camp. For the
first time coming out of training camp and actually exercising
and executing everything they talked about. It's just impressive. I'm
I'm really impressed with this squad. I love this team.
Speaker 1: Adam Oson impressed with this squad, loves this trade. Yeah trade.
Speaker 2: We'll be back with y'all at some point, probably closer
the next week. Hope everyone has a good break again.
Thank you so much for listening, and as always, let's
go clips.