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Speaker 1: This is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross ten oh

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one in the AM and h Town.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome into a Thursday edition of The Matt

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Thomas Show with Ross Bottles.

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Speaker 3: Score tonight inside Tota Center the Santonio Spurs one eleven

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and the Houston Rockets ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Teach not only was it the Spurs whom we hate,

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but it was also important in the Western Conference standings.

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Speaker 4: There was a ton of Spurs fans in the building.

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Speaker 2: And the game started after eight thirty, So I mean

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you had to be in the Toyota Center late last

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last night as the crowd filed out, with like under

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three minutes to go to watch your team completely crumble

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in the fourth corner and fall to the San Antonio Spurs.

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Speaker 4: If you made it, Hello.

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Speaker 2: And welcome into the Matt Thomas Show with Ross here

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on Sports Talk seven. I need Ross virial with you.

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I will be here for the full four hours. Who

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else will be here, Well, we will see. Chris Gordy

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should be joining shortly. He's gonna come hang out. I

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asked both of the Adams to hang out for an hour,

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and I didn't get a straight answer. I got a

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whole lot of nodding, And why don't.

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Speaker 5: You do it?

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Speaker 4: No, maybe you should do it?

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Speaker 2: So will and Adam show up at one pm? And

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which one will it be? Who's to say? We'll see

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you coming up at one o'clock here on Sports Talk

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seven night. In the meantime, Jonathan, you're gonna be here

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for the full four hours, right, So I mean, as

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long as it's me and you, we can hold it down.

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We can batten down the hatches, will be all right. Yes,

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we got this, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We'll be all right. We got this.

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Speaker 2: So Jonathan is gonna bring us the new news at noon,

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coming up at noon. Look at this is like the

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earliest I've ever warned you. I think, I think I

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appreciate it. I's a gold star. I think Jonan's gonna

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bring us the news at noon. Coming up at twelve o'clock.

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We will have Joel Corey coming up at eleven o'clock. Now,

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he works and writes for CBS Sports. He is kind

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of the the capologist of CBS Sports, NFL contracts and

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salary cap experts, and you can find him on Twitter

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at Corey Joel cor r Y. He's gonna join us

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coming up at eleven o'clock. He wrote a really interesting

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article on paying Will Anderson and then also paying CJ. Stroud,

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What that would look like for the Houston Texans, whether

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or not they should do it, and all that different stuff,

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but kind of the the economics of football. With Will

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Anderson's deal not necessarily pending, but a contract extension, he's

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up for one, as is CJ. Stroud. What's gonna happen there?

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We will hear from him coming up at eleven o'clock.

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I'm excited for that. Of course, it is Thursday, so

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we have I just don't get it coming up at

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eleven o'clock as well. And we also have you folks

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on the phone lines. If you would like to get in.

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We can talk a number of different things. They're open.

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It's seven to one three two one two five seven

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ninety is the phone number, seven to one three two

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one two five seven ninety. So we do have a

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number of things to get to. As I said, we

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will start off talking about the Houston Rockets and that

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loss last night. I'm gonna be honest, I'm a little

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bit worried because what happened in that fourth quarter for

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the Rockets. Uh for all intents and purpose, is a disaster.

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Kind of funny mirroring the game on the twentieth, so

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what eight nine days ago now at this point, rather

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than the game on the twenty eighth, where the Spurs

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got up as much as sixteen in that game against

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the Rockets, and then in the fourth quarter they couldn't

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do anything in the fourth and they couldn't score a lick.

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Rockets came roaring back and won the game, and it

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made it not look as close as the final score reflected.

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into the fourth quarter, I think they were leading by

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two and then the fourth quarter was just and it

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Speaker 4: There's no other way to put it. You get out

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score twenty seven to thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Hide your children, hide your wives, hide your pets, hide everyone.

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When I give you these fourth quarter numbers for the

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Houston Rockets, four of twenty three from the field seventeen

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point four percent. That is not acceptable. That is not good.

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Over two from three were the Rockets as well. And

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you're sitting there saying, what happened? They only took a

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couple of threes. How did they go so cold shooting?

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Four of twenty three from the field. Well, I'm glad

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you asked. The Spurs began to use a defense that

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was pretty interesting and I don't know that every team

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can pull it off. But more on that in a second.

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They put Victor wimbin Yama the five on a men

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Thompson the rock. It's one, yes, the five guarding the one.

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Why did they do that? Well, unfortunately, you don't have

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to respect a men Thompson's jump shooting at all. So

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they had Victor woman Yama sagging way off of a

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men Thompson. That way, you're kind of shutting down his

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driving lanes, which he can do a good job of driving.

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gonna throw in a couple of fakes. He's gonna, you know,

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throw in use his pivot foot and go and whirl around.

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to the rim. Unfortunately, not the case with Victor wimban Yama.

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I know, we hate him here here in Houston. We

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wanted him here, and then now he's on the other

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side and his arrival and he's down I ten, So

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we have to trash the guy and act like he's terrible,

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but he's a very good defender.

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Speaker 4: He can lock down the paint.

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Speaker 2: He's got basically like an eight foot wingspan, so it's

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very difficult for him to just go buy him for

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a men Thompson to go buy Victor w Baniama and

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then even if he does, Wmby can recover and block

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shots and effect shots with his with his length. So

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Wimby was sagging way off of a Men Thompson. And

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then you know, the Rockets have their their pet stets

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that they like to use with Kevin Durant and Alprin

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the top of the key.

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Speaker 4: They were doing that.

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Speaker 2: The Spurs were switching that and ending up with Stefan

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we should favor. But Stephan Castle did a very good job.

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Alprin Shin Goon wasn't very good in the period either,

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and the Rockets just couldn't get anything going. Kevin Durant

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won for four in that fourth quarter, A Men Thompson

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one for seven, Alprin Shan Goon zero for five. Those

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on The Matt Thomas Show, with Ross like that, that's

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a big three men. Thompson eighteen points per game, First

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Team All Defense, Kevin Durant, one of the greatest players

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to ever walk the planet, in outbrunching good and All Star.

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You cannot have those guys combined for two for sixteen

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in the fourth quarter. And the Spurs did a great job.

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not every team, as they said, is going to be

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able to do that. But it has me a little

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bit worried because the Rockets didn't have any answers for it.

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They just looked completely bamboozled. They were taking ten seconds

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to get into every single offensive set in the fourth

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quarter and they were just looking lost and throwing up

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a bunch of shots that had no chance of going in.

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open threes and things didn't look good. They were not

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getting open shots. I mean, coming into the game last night,

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this is the number five offense in basketball. So is

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it a concern. Yes, we can also say, oh, it's

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one game. It's also the Spurs. They're uniquely equipped to

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defend the way that they did in that fourth quarter.

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Atlanta Hawks. Then you have some Pacers and some whatever

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else in the future schedule. That's great and all well

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and good, and I would agree with that, But also

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January and February, You're worried about the San Antonio Spurs.

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Come April and May, you're worried about the Oklahoma City

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you can maybe employ some similar type of defense. Not

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necessarily the case with the Denver Nuggets. But you're not

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talking about the regular season and the Rockets going to

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be okay, which I think they are. They're still going

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to finish to the top four seed. All is going

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to be hunky dory, but it is going to be

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in the back of my mind with the Rockets and

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trying to get to get to that upper echelon. The

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goal isn't to make the playoffs. The goal isn't even

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to make the first round or second round. The goal

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has win a championship. That's gonna be one heck of

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a hard goal because of how good the Oklahoma City

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Thunder are and how tough the West is in general.

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Speaker 4: But last night was not good.

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Speaker 2: And of course it's the last quarter that I've seen

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of Rockets basketball, so it's gonna leave a really bad

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taste in my mouth, and I'm not feeling good after

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watching the end of that game. So Imahidoka did address

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it in the post game last night, talking about that

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defense that was used by the San Antonio Spurs. Will

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because that was just ugly. You lose against Arrival, you

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lose against Wimby, who you want to beat. You got

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a bunch of Spurs fans in your building, and oh,

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by the way, you could have gotten You were two

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games behind San Antonio in the West. You could have

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made it just one game and now you're three. So

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January game. Not the end of the world, but not

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feeling great last night about Rockets basketball. Okay, we're gonna

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take a quick break here on The Matt Thomas Show

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with Ross as I mentioned coming up. At eleven o'clock

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we got Joel Corey, CBS Contra and Capologist. He's gonna

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talk to some Will Anderson and CJ. Stroud. Eleven thirty

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we have I just don't get it as well. Twelve

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Speaker 2: You can get on the phone lines if you want

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to hang out, give me your thoughts where there'd be

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the rockets or anything else going on. Of course, those

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Got some NFL news to get to, and you know

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we're gonna talk about college football with Chris Gordy in

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the fold as well. So phone lines open, anything you

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want to get to. Seven one three two one two

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five seven ninety is the phone number. Seven one three

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two one two five seven ninety. You could also send

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tweets at sports RV. You can follow me on my

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And again on the phone lines seven one three two

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one two five seven ninety. All right, I saw Cole

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Thompson I mean distracting my producer quite frankly, Jonathan in

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there talking too. Yeah, that's fine. I forgive you and

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I I had it. I was going to ask you

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off air, but I was like, you know what, let's

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just go ahead and do it on air. Cole Thompson,

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the Morning Drives that we're.

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Speaker 6: Calling it, I thought it was actually what did what

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did empty call it?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: He calls it something different every day, which I mean,

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mean for the camaraderie and uh, I just we should

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all be solidified together. Team teamwork makes the dreamwork here

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at Sports Talk seven ninety. I would like to just

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consistently call it whatever the hell that the show is

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called The Morning Drive. I'm not up in the morning,

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so I don't catch The Morning Drive, and then I

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have like a four minute commute, and normally I'm listening

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to music. So nothing personal to you or Dan, but

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I don't normally catch the show. I'm sure it's spectacular.

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You feel you'd listen between six and ten. Anyways, I

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Speaker 4: Had the I'm sorry, on Fry, are you still sleeping

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Speaker 6: Okay, no, we made up for it. What's funny was

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Speaker 4: I don't need to know how you made up, but

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go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, on Friday. Her so she works as a drilting director.

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She doesn't want to dance and everything like that, and

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she's about to go into competition mode and apparently.

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Speaker 2: Shot autition mode. Is that like when Lebron Dets deletes

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all his social media.

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Speaker 6: She literally just does not go on social media or

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text me. Oh wow, She like she'll leave it five

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in the morning. I won't see her until the next

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until the summer.

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Speaker 4: Okay, concern you at all?

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Speaker 6: Okay, good, I've been to one of those contests.

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Speaker 5: Dude.

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Speaker 6: It is steroid. It is like think of like dance moms,

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like the t think of that on steroids. Okay, after

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she does for a living, I'm like, just just text

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me if you win or loose, give me, give me

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the hell out of it.

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Speaker 4: Dance moms.

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Speaker 6: Huh yeah, that level of psychology.

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Speaker 4: It's that bad bay.

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Speaker 5: Where is this? Can I go?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You can go? All right?

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Speaker 4: You think Sean brings some wine?

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Speaker 6: Do you want to pay forty bucks to go to

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the competition problem?

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Speaker 4: Can I get in wine. Can I get in wine

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and some cheese cracks?

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Speaker 6: I s don't think you could do that. I think

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that maybe wine coolers that you have dance moms.

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maybe probably Okay, that wouldn't hurt.

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Speaker 4: Dance moms are going to want those two. But anyways,

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so you're all good.

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Speaker 6: I'm good because now somebody else pissed her off when.

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Speaker 4: It came to the dance. So you deflected.

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Speaker 6: I got to deflect, like I don't want to talk

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to you tonight, but I don't want to talk to

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you because I'm mad about something else. And then come

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forty eight hours, I mean twenty four hours later, she's like,

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I'm over it. That's so I kind of got off

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scott Free without.

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Speaker 4: Even fully got you.

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Speaker 2: It was a distractor technique exactly, Like that's smart, that's

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actually a vet move.

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Speaker 5: Cole.

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Speaker 6: I actually said to the mom that decided to piss

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her off, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I want to send her. I want to send her.

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Speaker 6: I want to send her a twenty dollars gift card

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because of now, she was the bane of Kirsen's existence.

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Speaker 2: So you want to get in trouble with your wife again. Oh,

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you sent this woman twenty dollars? What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Why are you sending this off? Because if she pissed

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you off and I got out of the door.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well I'm glad you're off the couch. That's all

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I needed. All right, thank you? Apiate. I don't know

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anything to plug. What's that?

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Speaker 2: What's the big fun heritage segment tomorrow Friday on the

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Morning Drive?

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Speaker 6: Ooh, I'm probably gonna lose my mind over more Bill

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ball check stuff because I think it's stupid. I know

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your co host is very content for a year.

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Speaker 2: I'm not content, hint, and I know I know I'm not.

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I'm saying I'm not content. But also I don't think

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it's some great travesty. Okay, I don't think it's a travesty.

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Here's what I will say.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know what you're young. Go ahead, here's what

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I will say.

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Speaker 6: I think it's stupid that you don't have to then

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come out and say I was the one who vote

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against it.

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Speaker 2: The secret votes everywhere, No, no, no, if you have

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to take you a Hall of Fame secret, Basketball Hall

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of Fame secret.

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Speaker 6: I'm the same way with all of them. If you

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have the gall to say that you do not believe

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that this person belongs in the Hall of Fame. I'm

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totally cool with it. Be able to go ahead and

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take the brunt of the forest.

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Speaker 2: You can if you want, like that Kansas City writer

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came out and became publicly. Yeah, But also I don't

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you shouldn't be beholden to public pressure either.

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Speaker 4: So I do like this secret vote.

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Speaker 6: See, I'm not for it. I'm for it if you

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feel anything because because because why would you do it?

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Speaker 4: Because then you wouldn't stay true to yourself.

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Speaker 2: If you have this vote, somebody is taking upon you

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to say, hey, you know what, you know Ball, and

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you can disagree with him that they know Ball, right,

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they're saying, but if you're giving a Hall of Fame vote,

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they're saying, you know Ball. We want you to give

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your vote one true to yourself, and the best way

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to do that is to make it a secret vote,

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because if you're making it public, then you're going to

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be beholden to public pressure and that's going to influence

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your thinking.

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Speaker 6: But then I think that that works because here's the

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bottom line. I don't know if you know this ross

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bullying in society is a great thing, then that's what happens.

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Speaker 2: They will follow you and don't get your portocross. No,

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bullying's not great. Bully bullying has me on Instagram and

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I don't want.

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Speaker 7: To be on it.

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Speaker 6: He gets fantastic in the right secret circumstances.

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Speaker 4: Actually coming across.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming along on Instagram though, because bullying is getting

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me off Twitter, because I'm sick of all you people

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on Twitter. You six said human beings with nothing better

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to do in your life. But coming to I mentions

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because Victor win Miyama Rocket should be scared.

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Speaker 4: Of him, I tweet the Victor Rocketson's scared of Victor Wimbyona,

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which say, aren't they go right after him? He had

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a great game, Sure he had, like I don't know,

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twenty eight and sixteen. It's not like he dropped a

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fifty and twenty Spurs fans coming into I mentioned out

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of no.

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Speaker 6: Where, I still searching Woden. I mean, get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I got to mute five thousand Spurs fans who are

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who are spending their nights. It's midnight, go to sleep,

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hug your children, they don't have take dog for a walk.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: All right, they don't have to do anything else but

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but come out and find me in your mention.

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Speaker 6: They have nothing to do but at sports.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, what were we talking about?

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Speaker 6: Something about Hall of Fame voting, which, by the way,

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I'm I'm for the bully because guess what happens if

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you bully them long enough, they're going to take your side.

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Speaker 2: That's that's not good because you know why the public

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is stupid? The public is the public is wrong about

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almost everything. Are they wrong about Bill Belichick not being

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a Hall of Fame coach? He is a Hall of

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Fame coach. And guess what he's gonna get in next season?

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He'll be in in a year. Okay, take your time,

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get your affairs in order. You want to go and

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go book your flight to Canton, cole because he's coming

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next year.

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Speaker 4: We're so passionate about it. I mean, you're up in arms.

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Speaker 2: There's like seventeen social media videos and ah you put

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up about it.

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Speaker 4: So you're so up in arms.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, book your flight to Canton, get your leather

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helmet on, and go out there and go to the

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Hall of Fame next year. Shit, you followed me on

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Twitter at mister Cole Thompson. Yeah, mister Cole Thompson, go ahead,

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all right, there he goes all right. Didn't mean to

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go that long, but I did want the update. It's

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good to hear that Cole is off of the couch.

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That was my main concern. I'm worried about the young man.

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I mean, it's not easy getting up early. You got

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that morning pressure, I mean, morning drive, major market. It's

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a lot of pressure. And then if you're sleeping on

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the couch and there's like, I don't know, unicorn stuffed

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animals in your back, it's it's just not feeling good.

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So I'm glad he's doing okay. And he's wrong. I mean,

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he's not wrong. Upset about Bill Belichick, I get it

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up in arms and acting like it's the greatest travesty

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in history.

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Speaker 4: No, a lot of a lot of you youngins.

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Speaker 2: How old were you in two thousand and seven, Jonathan five? Okay,

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so you're five years old? Yeah, so you have no

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memory of the Spygate scandal, No shocked? Okay, you remember

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deflake Gate? Okay, Well, there was an even bigger scandal

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before that in two thousand and seven called Spygate.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was a massive, massive scandal.

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Speaker 2: They got doctor draft picked, Bill Belichick got fined five

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hundred thousand dollars, and the Patriots got fined like two

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hundred and fifty thousand dollars. They were illegally taping. I

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think it was the Jets, and then there were reports

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that like up to forty games they were doing this.

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So yeah, you're illegally taping opposing opposing walkthroughs and trying

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to get signals and trying to break down their defense.

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Speaker 4: Sit out a year. You didn't get banned for life,

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not like he's not going to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: It was bad. I would have voted him. I don't

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have one of the fifty votes to vote him in.

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He would have gotten my vote. He's the greatest coach

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of all time.

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Speaker 4: Cheating.

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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. I'm sure

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there was coaches back in the nineteen sixties. I don't

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know George Hallis and I don't know, Okay, Vince Lombardi.

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I don't want to desecrate his hallowed name, but you

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know what I'm saying, Like, I'm sure there are a

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number of coaches doing anything they could to win all

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throughout the history of the NFL, and probably things we

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don't even know about, so he would have gotten my vote.

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But to call it a human tragedy that Bill Belichick

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of all people, has to sit out one year because

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he didn't get eighty percent. He'll get it next year

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and we're all gonna be fine. All right, quick break

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here on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. You want

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to get in on the phone lines. I saw a

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couple of you on hold but dropped off. You want

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to come back, you can. We can talk some Rockets, basketball, anything.

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Y'all want to get to seven to one to three,

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two one two five, seven ninety is the phone number

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we can talk about the Belichick thing, mentioned the Rockets

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collapsing in the fourth quarter against the Spurs last night

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as well.

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Speaker 4: Chris Gordy going to join, I don't know. At some point.

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Speaker 2: We got Joel Cory coming up at eleven o'clock. He's

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going to talk about that CJ. Stroud contract and the

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potential for or the Houston Texans to signed both he

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and Will Anderson Junior. That's right, we are guaranteed human.

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You think AI get out sports takes this good come

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on now, or sports takes this bad, depending on how

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it goes. All right, Welcome back to the Matt Thomas

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Show with Ross Hero on Sports Talk seven ninety. Matt

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is in Atlanta with the Houston Rockets right now. They

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are on a back to back, as they lost last

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night to the San Antonio Spurs, completely collapsing in the

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fourth quarter. Chris Gordy will be joining along at some point.

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I mean, I guess I'm trying to get every single

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employee who works for the station at some point here

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on this show. Thanks to Cole Thompson for dropping in

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for a second there. Jonathan Allen's hanging out with me

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for the duration we have. I just don't get it.

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Coming up at eleven thirty and at eleven o'clock it

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is cbssports dot COM's NFL Contract NFL Contracts and Salary.

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Speaker 4: Cap expert Joel Corey.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna come on and talk about his Will Anderson

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and a CJ. Stroud article that he wrote about the

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Texans and their their ability or the possibility of signing

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both of those. Obviously, Will Anderson at this moment seeming

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like such a so much more of a no brainer

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than CJ. Stroud Phone lines open for you at seven

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one three two one two five seven ninety seven one

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three two one two.

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Speaker 4: Five seven ninety So I had the audio last night.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I talked about it in the first segment. Rockets fell

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apart in the fourth quarter against the San Antonio Spurs.

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If you fell asleep, well you didn't bust much in

475
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the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Uh honey, I gotted off in the fourth quarter. Good.

477
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Speaker 2: They got destroyed twenty seven to thirteen in that fourth quarter.

478
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There they combined of four I'm gonna bring it up again,

479
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was it four twenty four or four four of twenty three?

480
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Excuse me? Yeah, four of twenty three in the fourth quarter.

481
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And as I kind of outlined in the first segment,

482
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what they were doing defensively is they were using they

483
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were using their five victor wimbin Yama to guard the

484
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rockets one Amn Thompson because Wimby is uniquely equipped to

485
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sag off of Amn Thompson and then help everywhere else

486
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because of his length and defensive prowess. So you don't

487
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have to respect the men Thompson's jump shooting and a

488
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men was sagging off of them and then he was

489
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going on and helping, and I think the basketball technical

490
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term used by Udoka here is flood. He was able

491
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to flood other places because you don't necessarily have to

492
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respect him in Thompson and then a men Thompson what

493
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he does when other teams do, when other players do

494
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that is he goes and he finds avenues for basket cuts,

495
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and he was doing that. But Wimby was doing a

496
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good job of keeping an eye on the men Thompson,

497
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watching those ask it cuts, covering those and he can

498
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just I mean he can he can guard one endo

499
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the floor or the other just about with his length.

500
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So it was a very difficult situation for the Rockets.

501
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The Spurs were also switching Kevin durantan Alpern Shingoon actions

502
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and they weren't able to get any kind of rhythm going.

503
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They were horrible in that fourth quarter. As I said,

504
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they went four of twenty three from the field. So

505
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I want to it's kind of fun to listen to

506
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im Adoka, and when he's asked a question, he he

507
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does a good job of, I mean, being open and

508
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honest first of all, but you can kind of tell

509
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by the tenor of his voice certain feelings that Emay's field.

510
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So I want to play a little game here with you, Jonathan,

511
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like what what is what is going through e May's

512
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mind as we kind of go through this SoundBite. All right,

513
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So first of all, I think he sounds a little

514
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upset to start. This is him ask getting asked about

515
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that defense, that the that the San Antonio Spurs were

516
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using on him.

517
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Speaker 4: Just not don't get stagnant.

518
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Speaker 9: We still have to keep playing and regardless of who's

519
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setting the screen up, be considered with the small and good.

520
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Speaker 4: Advantage with Kevin those guys. And it just sounds like

521
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:08,119
a little frustration in his voice at the very beginning,

522
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like just just just don't get stagnant. You see, it's

523
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almost like he's yelling in the he's yelling in the

524
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the huddle with that first part.

525
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Speaker 10: Yes, No, it seems like he's trying to hold his tongue,

526
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,799
make sure he says everything. Pr you know, that's how

527
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I can find again and vice versa.

528
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Speaker 9: Man got to be a handler and move one around

529
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and screen handle do a little bit of both. And

530
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I don't think we were setting good screens from men.

531
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Speaker 5: He would just go.

532
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Speaker 9: Underneath and didn't get much out of that, and then

533
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Opera and they kind of pushed him off the block

534
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,960
won't be flooded, and and we didn't get anything there

535
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:45,640
on the elbow, you know, surprised we didn't get better

536
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,440
positioned with Albi Alpi in his ISOs did a good job.

537
00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:51,039
I think Castle and Barnes, those guys getting up under him.

538
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Didn't really get to a spot, and he started shooting

539
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,599
some elbow floaters and hooks from there.

540
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Speaker 4: Not a great shot for us. Yeah, all right, so

541
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pretty better fact, but get the very and I mean

542
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,160
not so subtle shot at out, not alprinching Goon. I

543
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,240
mean yeah, alperrinching goon, like he's getting some elbow shots

544
00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:10,240
that they're just not good shots for us.

545
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Speaker 9: Didn't really get to a spot, so we started shooting

546
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,880
some elbow floaters and hooks from there.

547
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Speaker 5: Not a great shot for us.

548
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Speaker 2: So you can hear the frustration in Ema Doka's voice.

549
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,799
So he wants better screens, he wants them to get

550
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:26,480
into better spots. So it seems like they're gonna try

551
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:26,960
to do something a.

552
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Speaker 4: Little bit better. But that was just that was a disaster.

553
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: On ESPN Late Night, Rockets collapsing against the San Antonio Spurs,

554
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:37,720
wanting to win because it's the Spurs, all the Spurs

555
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,319
fans in the building, and wanting to win because it

556
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,240
would have helped in the Western Conference. You would have

557
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,079
been just one game behind them, who would have been

558
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,599
in the two seater. I'm not sure if the Nuggets

559
00:25:46,599 --> 00:25:48,400
would have snuck up to the two seat at that point.

560
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But you lose to the Spurs and now in the

561
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:52,880
season series, you're behind them at two to one.

562
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Speaker 11: Mister Gordy, Yeah, I will give Mitch Johnson credit. Yeah,

563
00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,920
I did not know Mitch Johnson. I was not familiar

564
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,960
with your game. He is a really good coach. I

565
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:04,839
mean that that's Furs team to go from what they

566
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,359
were last year and the year prior to what they

567
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are now.

568
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Speaker 4: The put the Popovich days behind you.

569
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Speaker 6: This.

570
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Speaker 11: This guy's got this thing Humming and Castle to Fox

571
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,200
has been great. I mean, and Wemby's they're very deep

572
00:26:20,279 --> 00:26:23,279
team too. Yeah, but but how about their defense. They

573
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,839
made that fourth quarter? They made every shot uncomfortable for

574
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the Rockets. I mean, guy and guys pulling up, Like

575
00:26:31,599 --> 00:26:33,920
I know, Durance got the mid range down, but like

576
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:36,880
you know, Alpi and Amen are trying to do it.

577
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Speaker 4: I'm going, guys, this is that ain't your game? Like

578
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go to the freaking rim.

579
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Speaker 11: Go And then when a men was trying to get

580
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to the rim, he couldn't get there comfortably.

581
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Speaker 4: They were doing a great job. Five block shots for

582
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:50,000
Victor wimen Yama. They were clogging up the paint.

583
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Speaker 2: And I mean a weakness that can get exposed of

584
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,480
this team is some some consistent shooting depending on who's

585
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on the floor, and especially when a men Thompson and

586
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:00,000
Alprin Shangoon are on the floor to game.

587
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Speaker 4: You don't have to respect the three point shooting either

588
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of those they were.

589
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Speaker 11: I mean a man had was on an island. Yeah,

590
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:07,960
he was out there all by himself. They're like, go ahead,

591
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:08,400
shoot it.

592
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Speaker 4: I mean, and he wouldn't. He didn't take a sal three.

593
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:11,720
That is a part of his game.

594
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Speaker 11: He's I mean, look, we got all the rest of

595
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the season, but in the off season he has got

596
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to develop him.

597
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

598
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Speaker 2: Well, we've been saying he's in his fourth year now,

599
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,680
I mean we haven't. We've been saying that for a

600
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:24,920
for a Janis for like twelve years. Russell Westbrook his

601
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,759
entire career. Who else John Moran his entire career. I

602
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:30,359
think it's one of those things that, hey, if it

603
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,319
hasn't happened by now, I'm not sure that it is

604
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,000
going to happen.

605
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Speaker 11: But there's god. I mean, like Anthony Davis come out

606
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,400
of college, had no range of There are guys who developed.

607
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, but within four years was he shooting well. I

608
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,400
don't know, I'd have to go look that up, but

609
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,720
I think but you're four, he was hitting threes. So

610
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that that and everybody's their different case. There are guys

611
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:50,559
who can come on. I think Jason Kidd is one

612
00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:52,200
that comes to mind. He was a terrible three point

613
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,279
shooter his whole career. Then when he was like old

614
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,599
Jason Kidd with the Mavericks, he became a good three

615
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,920
point shooter. I think Lonzo Ball was terrible early in

616
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,480
his career and he kind of he re he basically

617
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,440
reinvented his entire shot, which is probably what a men

618
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:07,640
Thompson is going to have to do.

619
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Speaker 4: Sometimes.

620
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Speaker 2: At some point you're gonna maybe have to to stuff

621
00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:14,359
down your ego and figure something out if you want

622
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,440
to make that part of your game, because maybe it's not.

623
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:19,240
There's not even any guarantees that it's gonna work. Everybody

624
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:21,519
has their ceiling. It is for a third three point shooting.

625
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:23,599
The highest ceiling ever is Steph Curry and then everybody

626
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:24,720
else has the ceiling below that.

627
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:29,039
Speaker 11: But what kind of happened was as soon as like

628
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,680
we saw when a man got that block he shot

629
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:35,640
blocked by Wemby. Yeah, then he was hesitant. It was

630
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:37,839
like he was he had an open look, but he

631
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,599
was like, oh, I don't know, there's Wemby. He's not

632
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,400
four off. He might come out of nowhere to block this.

633
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:43,799
And it was like once once he's in your head,

634
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,920
now he's really got you.

635
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was not fun to see.

636
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: And Rockets have one more matchup with the San Antonio Spurs.

637
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,160
They're now down two to one in the season series.

638
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:57,720
So uh, back to the drawing board and no rest

639
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:59,599
for the weary. That's maybe a good thing. They can

640
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,759
flush fourth quarter out of their minds and get ready

641
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:03,720
for the Atlanta Hawks. That's the seven o'clock start here

642
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:05,680
on Sports Talk seven ninety. I'll have you for the

643
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,640
Rockets launch pad coming up at six o'clock. All right,

644
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,519
quick break here on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross

645
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,720
Chris Gordy is hanging out. We've got Joel Cory gonna

646
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talk some Houston Texans coming up. Those you on hold,

647
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I see you will get to you next as well.

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Phone lines open seven one three two one two five

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Talk seven ninety ros viy out with you on the

652
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Matt Thomas Show with Ross. We've got Joel Cory coming

653
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,079
up in the next segment talking about a Will Anderson

654
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potential extension, a CJ. Stroud potential extension, what that would

655
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mean for the Houston Texans their cap situation.

656
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Speaker 4: I mean, just he's on his face. I mean, you've

657
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already paid Stingley.

658
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Speaker 2: Nicole Collins is on a decent contract, but I don't

659
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know when he's going to be wanting some extra money

660
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as well. I mean, who knows, Jalen Petri, You've already paid, right,

661
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So as far as money, it's obviously headlined by those

662
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two guys.

663
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Speaker 4: At some point Kamara Laster is going to want some money.

664
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That'll be coming up as well.

665
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Speaker 2: So interesting with the Texans, especially not having a whole

666
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,880
lot of wiggle room in terms of the cap, but

667
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,559
they can restructure some guys. So we'll talk about that

668
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,319
coming up at eleven o'clock here on the Matt Thomas

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Show with Ross seven one three two one two five

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one two five seven ninety.

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Speaker 4: I meant to ask you, did you see the uh

673
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the fromber buzz out.

674
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Speaker 2: There Fromber is going to sign with the the Miami Marlins. No, okay,

675
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what's the fromber buzz?

676
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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 11: Latest report last night? Is the San Francisco Giants really

678
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making progress?

679
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Speaker 4: Okay?

680
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Speaker 2: So they had Johnny Quato for so many years with

681
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long hair. They want a long haired pitcher back, right,

682
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And the part of the contract is that he has

683
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to keep his extensions in.

684
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Speaker 11: He can never take them out. I I'm gonna still

685
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,839
hold out. I'm gonna hold out prediction that pictures that

686
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,480
catchers report and Fromber still does not have a team.

687
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Speaker 2: Okay, he could wait, I mean because injuries have That's honestly,

688
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:24,359
it feels like not the worst idea to wait for

689
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,960
some sort of major injuries because elbow discomfort. How many times,

690
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like take a drink every time your elbow discomfort during

691
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,079
spring training?

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Speaker 4: It's gonna happen.

693
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Speaker 2: It's been happening the last couple of years all over

694
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,799
baseball has been happening with the Astros, and somebody's gonna

695
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,119
be like, you know what we need to we need

696
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,839
a frontline starter.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if that's some of the advice that he's getting.

698
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I don't know. I'll just say I'd I'd rather see

699
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,519
fromber in the NL than have to face him. Why

700
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,000
in the AL Why is that? I just he's a

701
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,839
really good picture. I'd rather be Okay, I agree with you.

702
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Speaker 2: But that's the funny thing to me because a lot

703
00:31:58,359 --> 00:31:59,920
of the fan base I'm not talking about you Gordy,

704
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,759
acting like he's the worst pitcher in the history of time,

705
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and it's like, okay, look at the numbers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he had some blow ups, for sure.

707
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Speaker 2: And literally the second I started really defending him like

708
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he hadn't blown up in months, he's he blew up

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00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,000
like five times in a row, and he threw at

710
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,519
his catcher.

711
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,759
Speaker 11: So so I'm done defending him in that way. But yeah,

712
00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:21,480
there were some guys that you just look at and

713
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:24,640
you go, they were fantastic here. But it's run its

714
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,079
course and it's still finished. Like top ten in the

715
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,880
sy Young O for like three four years in a row.

716
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,519
He was a pretty good run. Well, now he's not

717
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,480
gonna get paid, thankfully. I didn't put anything on the

718
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:34,920
bet I made with man. It was mid season.

719
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,119
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, he's gonna get over five and

720
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,240
a half yards, and then I hears I should say,

721
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,240
and then he literally blew up, like almost immediately and

722
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:44,000
then hit his catcher in the chest.

723
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,039
Speaker 11: Even though it was a good season for him last year,

724
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:50,519
his highest el RA since twenty nineteen. What was it

725
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,480
like three seventeen ish or someree six six? Okay, three

726
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:55,599
six to six. That's still good.

727
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 7: What was it?

728
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 4: What is a war?

729
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 12: What is it? Good?

730
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:02,599
Speaker 4: Three eight? That's a good war. That's good.

731
00:33:03,319 --> 00:33:05,799
Speaker 2: He's a little older though, he's thirty two now or

732
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:10,240
something like that. Yeah, just turned thirty two in November.

733
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680
So I don't expect any kind of I mean, you.

734
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,839
Speaker 11: Take relatively healthy his career too, right, Like, Yeah, he's

735
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:21,240
been a workhorse, never really missed like long significant time.

736
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been over one hundred and seventy five innings

737
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:26,119
basically every year the last four years. But that's also

738
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,680
something you have to worry about. You have to you say, Okay,

739
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,799
I wonder where they testing fate, where they even weigh

740
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,279
that right, like, oh, he's been so healthy, he's a workhorse.

741
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,440
Can you say that's predictable or can you You can

742
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,480
spend it both ways that oh.

743
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: Well you know what, Nah, he's he's he's to do.

744
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,759
He's due for an injury. It's been too long, he

745
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,799
hasn't broken down. You just don't know. You don't have

746
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,279
those long term workhorses in baseball anymore.

747
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:51,759
Speaker 11: I'm uh, I'm excited to get to spring and just

748
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,039
kind of see what the what this pitching staff is

749
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:57,200
going to look like, and you know it's it's gonna be,

750
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:58,119
it's gonna be interested.

751
00:33:58,119 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: There got some battles.

752
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited about the rotation. I think it's going

753
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,480
to be better than we're all thinking because it's not names.

754
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:09,440
I mean, Tattuyo Imai is a nice signing and that's

755
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,840
going to be good, I think. And then Javier will

756
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,800
see but you're starting with Hunter Brown, then you go

757
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,079
to Burrows and Weiss and I feel like I'm missing

758
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,559
another name somewhere, like they are gonna have.

759
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 4: So Hunter Brown's your one. Yes, do we put Imi

760
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,519
into the two.

761
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I should depend on how you're feeling you

762
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:28,800
put him to or a Christian Javier probably gets a

763
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,679
nod as somebody who's been here a long time. If

764
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,960
he's not looking like a complete disaster in spring and

765
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,760
he's looking like old Christian Javier, that we know that

766
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,159
he can be.

767
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: If he's looking like hell reptil, we're I'm good with that.

768
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,960
Spencer arraghedtty raghetty. I didn't mention that's right.

769
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,599
Speaker 2: So yeah, you've got and they're gonna go to a

770
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,000
six man rotation at the very start of the season,

771
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:51,920
and even we had Joe a spot on at FanFest

772
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,159
and he said, I would expect to be in a

773
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,760
six man rotation more often than not in the season.

774
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,639
Speaker 4: Do you think that's like the new way.

775
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: Rather than getting like a one and then like a

776
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,960
really good two, three, and then you know four or five, whatever,

777
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:09,159
Just get like two through six are like threes, Like,

778
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,480
just get a bunch of really good pictures and then

779
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,360
hope they work out, rather than trying to get a

780
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,239
bunch of stud pictures. You get a bunch of really

781
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,880
good arms rather than studs who can go down and

782
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,280
get hurt.

783
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 11: Now, with depth your conversation with Ryan Wise was that

784
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,559
he's a starter, right, Yes, he kind of made it

785
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,559
known he has no interest in being a multiplate.

786
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: Well yeah, he well he didn't say it that way,

787
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,519
but yes, he wants to be a starter and he

788
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:36,079
was told to build up to be a starter.

789
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:40,599
Speaker 11: Yeah, so let's talk this up. So our five man rotation, yes,

790
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:44,840
Hotter Brown, it's gonna be six. Okay, Well let's do six.

791
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,719
Hotter Brown, yes, tatsu am I, Yes, Christian Javier that's three,

792
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,639
Spencer Edraghetti.

793
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 4: Four, Mike Burrows. Mike Burrows.

794
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 11: I mean he he was strong for the pirates, Ryan.

795
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:03,480
So that's your five. So your six candidates are Ryan Weiss,

796
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,639
Jason Alexander. Oh yeah, it was really good for you

797
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,800
for down the stretch last year. Lance McCullers junior, don't laugh.

798
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: Get ready to learn minor league deal, buddy, I mean,

799
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,320
I'm sorry. I love Lance McCullers Junior. I backed him

800
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,440
and I hope he was gonna come back. But he's

801
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,360
got he's got DFA written all over him.

802
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,079
Speaker 11: And then the kind of trio of triple A like

803
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,480
I'll call him the four A guys blue Ball AJ

804
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:33,760
blue Ball, who I think is knocking on the door

805
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,760
of being really good, like he was great last September.

806
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,239
Colton Gordon, who's had moments. You know, Yes, I think

807
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,679
he's so he could get better.

808
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, get a place in Sugar Lank and then miss

809
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,599
most almost all last year. JP. France. But you know,

810
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,119
I think there's they can develop something there space Cowboys

811
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,440
legend JP Franz. I'm not worried that worried about him either.

812
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,519
And then what what do they do with Nate Pearson?

813
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:01,320
Is he a starter or a reliever? So yeah, you've

814
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,599
got options. That's good.

815
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: And I just man, if Lantma Colors Junior somehow can

816
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,840
get back to some of that lightning in the bottle,

817
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,119
I just I just don't see it.

818
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:13,639
Speaker 11: Yeah, we all gave him a leash. We all were like, ah,

819
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,039
here we go. But just the injury on top of injury,

820
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:18,840
and I think, and I get it. I I poo

821
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,679
pooed on a lot of the fans who like poo

822
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,239
poot on him, But it was I think we're all

823
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,920
to the extent of man, we've tried, We've given him,

824
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,320
as you know, and he's getting paid well, I mean

825
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,159
it's it's you know, it's I think just the reality

826
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,039
is the thing that sucks is as good as he

827
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,519
was that July fourth game in l A against the Dodgers.

828
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:40,639
Speaker 4: He was awesome that day. And it's like, if we

829
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:43,760
could find that guy again and just be consistent.

830
00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, if he just simulate the games as he's

831
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,440
in Dodger Stadium, It's it seems like he all he

832
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,400
loves pressure, Yeah, he loves pressure.

833
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:55,079
Speaker 11: And then home game on a Saturday against the Twins,

834
00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:59,840
not much. But the other one to watch he's not

835
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:03,519
on the door. We will see him this year, Miguel Uloa.

836
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,039
Speaker 5: Let's go with that.

837
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:09,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, yeah, this rotation is gonna be fine.

838
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: I'm barring, of course, we have to say the caveat

839
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,599
barring a rash of injuries like last year.

840
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 11: Where was it three players with Tommy john for the

841
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,440
Astros last year too, run O Bloco, Hayden was a

842
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,679
Nesky binder, Walter Alter.

843
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

844
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,119
Speaker 4: And then you're talking about the guys who were coming

845
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,639
back from Luis Garcia.

846
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 2: Urrighetti got hurt, Josh Hater got hurt. Luis Garcia unfortunately

847
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:32,800
just never could recover.

848
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,199
Speaker 11: Jose aer Kety gone, Rose er Kety gone, but not

849
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,360
forget who was the other end that hobby or came back.

850
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he was just kind of up and down,

851
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,480
all right, So hopefully that doesn't happen this year. Okay,

852
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,840
we're gonna say quick break here at the top of

853
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,360
the hour when we come back. Joel Corey, CBS Sports

854
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:56,760
NFL Contracts and Cap Expert. Should the Texans sign c J. Stroud?

855
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,639
Would the Texans signed c J. Stroud and Will Anderson?

856
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,280
And how that's gonna impact cap for the Houston Texans.

857
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,800
That's coming up next here on Sports Talk seven nights is.

858
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:17,679
Speaker 4: The Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Hour number two of

859
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:18,440
The Matt Thomas Show.

860
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: Ross Here on Sports Talk seven ninety Matt Thomas traveling

861
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,679
with the Rockets. He is out or he's in Atlanta

862
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,239
right now as they're licking their wounds from the loss

863
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,519
last night to the Spurs. Chris Gordy hanging out with

864
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,400
me right now, and we are pleased to be joined

865
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:36,920
by a previous guest on this show, although it has

866
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,440
been a while. Joel Corey is the CPS Sports NFL

867
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:45,119
Contracts and Salary Cap Experts. You can find him on

868
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,960
Twitter at Corey Joel That is Coe r R y Joel.

869
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:55,840
Appreciate the time as always, longtime no talk. Yeah, thanks

870
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,960
for having me back, all right, we do appreciate it,

871
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,559
all right, So let's go ahead and get right into it.

872
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:02,800
We'll Actually I was talking with my coost before this,

873
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,039
like we were trying to figure out okay, so can

874
00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:05,679
you explain?

875
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 4: Both CJ. Stroud and Will Anderson are up for a

876
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,280
fifth year option.

877
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: So the Texans I believe, have until May second, and

878
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,280
then after that they it's just a no go that

879
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:17,800
both of those guys could be free agents, which is

880
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,480
they're probably not going to let happen of course.

881
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, the rookie contracts are for four years. First

882
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,880
round picks have a fifth year option after the third season.

883
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,480
You have up until May second to go yes or

884
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:37,639
no for the fifth year option. The no brainer is

885
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,800
Will Anderson, they will pick up the fifth year option. CJ. Stroud,

886
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,079
I know the last two games were horrendous, but his

887
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,039
body of work over the three years and the price

888
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:51,679
of the fifth year option suggests they will pick that up.

889
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,400
So they will not be free agents after the twenty

890
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,039
twenty sixth season if they both end up continuing to

891
00:40:58,079 --> 00:40:59,159
playunder their rookie deals.

892
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 4: All right, let's start with Will Anderson, then we'll get

893
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,360
to the fun one with CJ.

894
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,519
Speaker 2: Stroud. It seems pretty obvious. I mean, first team All Pro,

895
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,760
twelve sacks career high. Not only that the opposite of CJ. Stroud,

896
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,039
and that Stroud wasn't very good in the playoffs. Will

897
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:18,000
Anderson was completely dominant in the playoffs. So we expect

898
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:20,599
some sort of mega deal to be happening. And I

899
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,719
had your article that I was reading as I said,

900
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,719
you expect him to maybe kind of in a way

901
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,320
reset the market as far as edge rushers and how

902
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,960
hard are the Texans going to push for trying to

903
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,800
get something done before that May second deadline.

904
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 5: Well, he's a guy that should be your top priority.

905
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,599
Last year with Derek Stingley junior, they got that thing

906
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,360
done so early it was in March. They hadn't even

907
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,400
exercise the fifth year option. So if i'm Will Anderson,

908
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,800
I'm like, hey, this is the president you set with

909
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:57,280
all Pro defensive players who are first team All pros

910
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,360
in their third year. I want the same type of

911
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:04,480
treatment in terms of timing and what you did rutive

912
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,920
to the marketplace corners first, Stanley Obviously edge rushers for

913
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:14,239
Anderson with me, So yeah, he's gonna try to reset

914
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,039
the non quarterback market. I expect there to be some

915
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:24,360
pushback from the Texans given how much that are escalated

916
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:28,159
last year. This time last year, the highest paid edge

917
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,280
rusher was Nick Bosa at thirty four million per year.

918
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,360
Now it's Michael Parsons at forty six and a half

919
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,599
million per year. Wow, that's almost a thirty seven percent increase.

920
00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:44,639
That's practically unheard of, So they may want to slot

921
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,840
him in kind of like the Texans did not the Texans.

922
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,400
The Lions did with Aiden Hutchinson, who came in at

923
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:55,519
forty five million per year, did not top Michael Parsons,

924
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:57,119
and that deal was done in the middle of twenty

925
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:57,920
twenty five season.

926
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 4: Do you kind of look at this Joe with it?

927
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 11: And they have Daniel Hunter still very much in the

928
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,000
middle of his prime and playing fantastic for him, But

929
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:10,039
obviously he's at a high dollar value. But this will

930
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:12,440
be basically the last year of his deano. They added

931
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,960
a couple of void years, but uh, do you kind

932
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,719
of look at it, as a capologist says, Okay, the

933
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,480
Will Anderson big money starts up as soon as the

934
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,679
Danil Hunter money comes off the books.

935
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,039
Speaker 4: Kind of.

936
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the where you're going to structure it that

937
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,079
the cap number is not going to take a huge

938
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:32,480
jump for a couple of years. But Hunter's interesting that

939
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:34,639
she brought him up. He's gonna be thirty two during

940
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:36,679
the middle of the next season. He's not showing any

941
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,039
signs of slowing down. If you let him play out

942
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,360
this year's deal, then he's he's walking because to franchise

943
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,599
him in twenty twenty seven, it's going to be a

944
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:49,639
little over thirty seven and a half million dollars and

945
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,320
that will happen.

946
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: That kind of drives our point home about how I

947
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,880
mean this. You don't want to say they use the

948
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,960
word waste, but it was an elite all time Texans

949
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:04,199
defense and you just couldn't get anything out of the offense.

950
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,719
And then that leads us to CJ. Stroud. Of course,

951
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
the headliner. The offensive line was bad, the running game

952
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:11,320
was bad. You had Nico Collins hurt in that Patriots

953
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,159
game as well, so it wasn't all CJ.

954
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,679
Speaker 4: Stroud.

955
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,079
Speaker 2: But when you turn the ball over four times in

956
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,880
the in the first half before we get cut kind

957
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,280
out of the ends and ounces. As far as options

958
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,679
of contract, where do you think the Texans weigh that

959
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,000
Joel as far as the body of work to where

960
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:30,760
he by many metric qbr A quarterback rating, touchdown percentage,

961
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,480
interception percentage. In the regular season, he had a bit

962
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:36,079
of a bounce back season from a sophomore slump, but

963
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:37,440
then those playoffs happened.

964
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

965
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 5: Part of the problem is he had his best year

966
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,239
when he was a rookie, and you were thinking he's

967
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,079
on an upward trajectory and he hasn't had a year

968
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,400
like his rookie year since. And then you compound the

969
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,599
problem by having back to back two of the worst

970
00:44:56,639 --> 00:45:00,760
playoff games I've seen for a quarterback in recent history.

971
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:04,159
It kind of rivaled with sam Donold did the last

972
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:06,880
week of the regular season last year and the playoff

973
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,920
game against the Rams last year, which he's definitely bounced

974
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,360
back from. But yeah, you don't want to be going

975
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,480
into the offseason potentially trying to get a new contract

976
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:18,199
off of that ending.

977
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what are the options in for the Texas

978
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,960
right now as far as the fifth year option they

979
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,920
can do that? Do you think there is any possibility

980
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,559
they do some sort of extension where he's not getting

981
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:33,079
paid fifty sixty million dollars a year. David Mulligetta is

982
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:34,880
his agent, and we know he's a guy who's been

983
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,199
very good at getting quarterbacks paid.

984
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,519
Speaker 5: Well basically whatever position he has generally. But good luck

985
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:46,719
with that because mullagetto resented Deshaun Watson, who's the last

986
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,119
time in Texas did a big quarterback deal thirty nine

987
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,599
million per year at the time made Watson the second

988
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,880
highest paid player in the NFL. Granted, Watson was coming

989
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,559
off a much better year or two that the nineteen

990
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:03,960
as a third year player than Watson is now, but nonetheless,

991
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:10,239
Mullagetta is thinking, hey, let's look at the totality the circumstances,

992
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:14,239
not be prisoners of the moment, have recency bias. For

993
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,920
my three years body of work is better than Trevor

994
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,079
Lawrence is three years when they got paid. This is

995
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,960
what Mullagatta will probably be thinking. You're saying, if they

996
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:27,719
do top contract extension and Trevor Lawrence after a third

997
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,719
year where the Jaguars imploded down the stretch, missed the playoffs,

998
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,320
he didn't play at the same level he did in

999
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,800
the second year a made him in a tie with

1000
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,079
Joe Burrow as the highest paid player five million per year.

1001
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:48,880
Then shortly thereafter, Dave Mullagetta took Jordan Love, who had

1002
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,719
one good second half of the season his first year

1003
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,519
as a starter, played well in the playoffs. Ties those

1004
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:57,440
two guys at fifty five million per year before Dak

1005
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,800
Prescott tops everybody. So he's not gonna look at anything

1006
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,639
besides one of these top of the market deals is

1007
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,320
the key, Joel with a CJ.

1008
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 11: Stroude, as young as he is, still like if we're

1009
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:14,239
talking long term contract extension, is the key higher aav

1010
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,199
at like a four year deal as opposed to a

1011
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,920
five or six year deal. Like how I'm just kind

1012
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,039
of looking at some of the current contracts out there,

1013
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:24,599
and Jordan Love at twenty five, like you just mentioned

1014
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:29,400
fifty five million year, but four years, I wonder you know,

1015
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,280
it feels like more teams are leaning towards that four

1016
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,559
year deal as opposed to those five or six year deals.

1017
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 5: Well, typically teams want to lock up their best players

1018
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,119
score as long as possible. And Love was a changing

1019
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:46,800
of the guard because you had when Trevor Lawrence did

1020
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,519
his deal, you were coming off a bunch of five

1021
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:54,039
year deals Jalen Hurts five year extension, Lamar Jackson five

1022
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:57,920
year deal as a franchise player. Then you had Joe

1023
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,239
Burrow Justin Herbert got their done after the third or

1024
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,800
both five year extensions, So that environment was five years.

1025
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,599
So if Trevor Lawns wanted a four, all the data

1026
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,480
pointed to a five, then you had Tua get a

1027
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,840
four year deal. Jared Goff get a four year deal,

1028
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:20,880
which allowed Jordan Love to go four. So this is

1029
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,519
a case. If I'm the Texans, I would kind of

1030
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:27,480
be looking at it from the standpoint that, yeah, if

1031
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:31,719
we wait and CJ. Stroud has a career year, yeah

1032
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,599
we're gonna pay more. But Kyler Murray be my cautionary tale.

1033
00:48:35,679 --> 00:48:38,079
His agent pushed to get a deal after three years,

1034
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,920
and he's probably not gonna be with the Cardinals next year.

1035
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,119
The Rams had buyer's remorse. Well, Jared Goff did his

1036
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,360
after three years, and he took him to a Super Bowl.

1037
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,400
At least got them he was the quarterback when they

1038
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,039
weren't a Super Bowl, and Philly cut bait with Carson

1039
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:58,400
Wentz pretty quickly after doing his rookiy contract after three years,

1040
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,719
so because of how things have gone south, sometimes I

1041
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,079
might be inclined to wait. Anderson's my top priority. If

1042
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,039
have to pay more in the long run to be

1043
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:13,280
sure that CJ is the guy, then I would have

1044
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,480
more peace of mind doing that.

1045
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 11: Talking with Joel Corey on one of the best when

1046
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,239
it comes to talking NFL contracts and salary cap been

1047
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,079
doing a long time, of course, CBS. It is interesting though,

1048
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:26,480
Joe the one of the big copics that came up

1049
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:30,840
here in Houston after Stroud's less than stellar postseason is okay,

1050
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:33,199
should should we pivot? And you look at what a

1051
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,079
Sam Darnold's doing right now. Obviously he was a hired

1052
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,400
assassin with Minnesota last year was very good, and now

1053
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,119
he takes the Seahawks to the super Bowl. It is

1054
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,360
interesting that concept of when you have your quarterback, you

1055
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,760
feel like, oh, maybe we gotta pay this guy just

1056
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,559
to keep him because we don't like the alternative. But

1057
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,000
to your point, Kyler Murray, the cautionary tale, I mean,

1058
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:53,360
Trevor Lawrence had the nice resurgent year this year, but

1059
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,639
prior to this year, I think people were wondering as

1060
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,679
should they have paid him?

1061
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: And then a TUA down in Miami. You look at

1062
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,960
that situation and just comes Man, it feels like the

1063
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:04,800
norm now is even if you're questions about this guy,

1064
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:08,159
you pay him because you just don't know. It's better

1065
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:09,800
than the alternative, which is the unknown.

1066
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 5: You get the nail on the head. Fairly unknown has

1067
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,320
been driving a lot of quarterback decisions. And I'll use

1068
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,320
one going back a few years at the time, eighteen

1069
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,880
million per year. Believe it or not, it was a

1070
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,599
lot for a quarterback. I forget exactly what year it was,

1071
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,559
but Jay Cutler got an extension. Yeah, and it's like,

1072
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,880
you really want to give Jay Cutler that type of money,

1073
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:36,280
and that's what happened. So yeah, that factors in the equation.

1074
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,159
But CJ. Stroud's really young, so you don't there's nothing

1075
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,079
that says you have to do a quarterback extension at

1076
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:50,159
the earliest possible instance. You can wait. Lamar Jackson ended

1077
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,000
up being the rare quarterback who plays through the fifth

1078
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:57,159
year option. Andrew luck back when he was considered a

1079
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,320
franchise quarterback, didn't get a deal, which maybe and the

1080
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,119
highest paid player until going into the fifth year options.

1081
00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:08,599
So you don't have to do the deal today, you

1082
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,559
can exercise some caution. Let's say Stroud is starting to

1083
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:16,760
play on the fourth year, the rookie contract starts lighting

1084
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,199
it up early in the year, you may revisit it

1085
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,719
then if you don't want to do it right now,

1086
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,960
if the numbers of the David that I suspect David

1087
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,519
Mullagata will be asking for.

1088
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,639
Speaker 2: You know, we've also seen a situation where guys have

1089
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,719
gotten let go. You mentioned Sam Darnold, I mean, Baker Mayfield.

1090
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,960
We have Jared Goff was traded, but he wasn't thought

1091
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,719
of as an elite guy with people did like.

1092
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 5: He was a throw in, and yeah, it was just

1093
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,760
a matter of time before he was done in the Trent.

1094
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1095
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: So it's it's not like they thought that he was

1096
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,599
gonna be so, I mean, it's it's interesting that the

1097
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,199
dichotomy where you don't want to end up in that

1098
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,079
situation where you cut bait with CJ.

1099
00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 4: Stroud and he thrives somewhere else.

1100
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: But also at the time when those guys came, they

1101
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,840
weren't making sixty million dollars, so it kind of makes

1102
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,639
it easier to build around that guy.

1103
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you also have to think of the fact

1104
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,119
that the cap has gone up since those guys signed,

1105
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,320
so we're relative to cap inflation. I know the quarterback

1106
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,519
market has gone haywire, but still sometimes that gets lost

1107
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:19,199
in the equation. You have the fifth year option. It's

1108
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,480
gonna be extremely reasonable costs for a starting quarterback. It's

1109
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:28,159
not gonna be an elevated amount because that Pro Bowl

1110
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:32,159
from Stroud's rookie year doesn't factor into increasing the costs.

1111
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:35,800
He was not an original ballot Pro Bowler. So it's

1112
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,519
gonna be the basically the average of the third through

1113
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:42,159
twenty of highest paid quarterbacks. And I'm simplifying it a

1114
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,599
bit for the option cost and depending and it's gonna

1115
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:49,320
be The exact number depends on where the cap is set,

1116
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,800
because it's express the percentage of the cap. But it's

1117
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,119
gonna be roughly twenty five to twenty six million for Stroud.

1118
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,960
That's a reasonable number for a quarterback as a salary.

1119
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 9: All right.

1120
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: He is Joel Corey a great expert on NFL contracts

1121
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,239
and the salary cap for CBS Sports. Joel, thanks for

1122
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,440
the time, it's been too long. I'm sure we'll bother

1123
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:13,199
you pretty soon with the CJ. Strouds situation as it

1124
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,400
continues to develop it and just go ahead. Let the

1125
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,079
folks know what you got going on the website and

1126
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:18,159
where they can find your stuff.

1127
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 5: Okay, you can find it at cbssports dot com. I've

1128
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,800
got an article out right now on fifteen notable veterans

1129
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,400
who could either be traded or released. And then I

1130
00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:35,440
do an annual contract awards and that will come out tomorrow.

1131
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,639
Speaker 4: All right, thanks a lot, Joel, appreciate the time. We'll

1132
00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:38,400
talk to you down the road.

1133
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 5: All right. Thanks for having me, guys, all right, appreciate it.

1134
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:44,639
Speaker 2: There we go, great stuff with Joel Corey, fascinating stuff

1135
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,360
where the Texans are probably just gonna have to wait

1136
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:48,079
on CJ.

1137
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 4: Stroud. I mean they are going to have to wait.

1138
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:50,719
You can't sign him now.

1139
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,199
Speaker 2: But I mean those names do scare me that we

1140
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,199
mentioned Gordy, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff to a

1141
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,119
lesser extent, Gino Smith. But Geno Smith was good with

1142
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,239
the Seahawks a year ago before being a disaster.

1143
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,639
Speaker 11: And the point is golf ended up. We're seeing the

1144
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,199
best of golf in Detroit. We're seeing the best of

1145
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,800
Sam Darnold now in Seattle, last year in Minnesota, Daniel Jones,

1146
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,119
we're seeing the better version of in Indianapolis. So some

1147
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:18,920
of these guys change the scenery helps, But you know,

1148
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:20,519
do you want to take a gamble that you're going

1149
00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:23,440
to get one of those outcasts that improves down the

1150
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:26,280
road as opposed to investing in your guy?

1151
00:54:26,519 --> 00:54:28,639
Speaker 4: But what if CJ's the next two? What if he's

1152
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:30,760
the next Kyler Murray?

1153
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,639
Speaker 2: And what if you want to cut bait with CJ.

1154
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,440
Shroud and find that next guy? Mac Jones is a

1155
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:36,360
name that' been floated. So a lot of stuff to

1156
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:39,599
parse through here, especially as we said, bad offensive line,

1157
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,840
bad run game. Inexperienced play caller Nico Collins was heard.

1158
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,840
Eventually Dalton Schultz was heard in that game as well.

1159
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,920
You had heard offensive line that was already bad, bad

1160
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,599
situation for CJ. Shroud. Can he improved? All right, we'll

1161
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,159
talk about that. We have other stuff to get to

1162
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,880
as well. We get the news at noon coming up

1163
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,679
at noon with Jonathan Allen. We have I just don't

1164
00:54:58,679 --> 00:55:01,159
get it coming up at eleven thirty, and we also

1165
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,880
have your phone calls seven one three, two, one two

1166
00:55:04,039 --> 00:55:06,440
five seven ninety the phone number seven one three two

1167
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:26,599
one two five seven ninety. Week one starter for the

1168
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:33,440
Houston Texans September of twenty twenty seven is who Chris

1169
00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:36,800
Gordy September of twenty twenty seven.

1170
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,159
Speaker 4: That's c J. Stroud September of twenty twenty eight. Still

1171
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:43,079
c J str Oh.

1172
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 13: I like that.

1173
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,559
Speaker 4: I like that I made some gut feelings. I was

1174
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:48,920
really down on c J. Stroud.

1175
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 2: I mean, the playoff games were so bad, so bad,

1176
00:55:53,519 --> 00:55:55,800
and you don't want to forget what they were in

1177
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,199
the moment. I mean, you just really don't because they

1178
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,119
were awful. And I don't know if I'm just I'm

1179
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,400
just coping or if I'm looking for hope because I

1180
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:10,320
am battle Red Ross and then I'm a Houston Texans fan.

1181
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,000
But I say it because it's true, running game awful.

1182
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:17,239
What did Woody Marks have like seventeen yards on fourteen

1183
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,039
carry something like that?

1184
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 4: That's the thing.

1185
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,639
Speaker 11: You gotta be fair. Look, drag May's up and play

1186
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:22,920
played great thist postseason.

1187
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 5: He has not.

1188
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:27,039
Speaker 4: His team has picked him up. And as good as

1189
00:56:27,079 --> 00:56:29,880
the defense played, you know, some other guys could have

1190
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,519
done some other things to pick their guy up.

1191
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 11: Now, drag May wasn't throwing interceptions like crazy like c J.

1192
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,639
Stroud was that day. But it's why I go back

1193
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,800
to like home field matters. I don't think Stroud plays

1194
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,199
that bad if that game is at an RG, I

1195
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:44,719
just don't.

1196
00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was two road playoff games, damn man, just

1197
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,440
just two bad disasters.

1198
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,079
Speaker 4: And and the Nico Collins.

1199
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:55,159
Speaker 11: I mean, Collins's over there right, He's one of the

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best receivers.

1201
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 4: No running game, No Nico Collins on the road, his

1202
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,880
seattle here of Jackson's myth and Jake the has to

1203
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,360
miss a game.

1204
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 2: That's what I keep going. What if what if we

1205
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,599
we like went into a warp time warp and CJ.

1206
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,079
Stroud starts this game. I mean, I'm sorry.

1207
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 4: Now, if we flip them, probably probably the Seahawks lose.

1208
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. Yeah, Seahawks lose to the not to

1209
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,760
the forty nine of the Rams. But if we put

1210
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,000
Sam Darnold and into this situation with no offensive line,

1211
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,679
no top weapons, no running game, and a play caller

1212
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:33,719
who's calling a second ever playoff game, I yeah, Texans

1213
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,800
probably lose that game too. Now, I don't think he's

1214
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,199
gonna throw four interceptions. But also, if you play that

1215
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,480
game with CJ.

1216
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 4: Stroud ten times, he's not gonna throw four interceptions ten times.

1217
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:48,159
That was about the worst possible outcome, man, And that's

1218
00:57:48,199 --> 00:57:49,880
what's kind of so hard to kind of wrestle with

1219
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,159
with sports, because we've seen it. The Rockets played on

1220
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,320
January twentieth against the Spurs. The fourth quarter they looked great.

1221
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:00,960
Wimby was terrible, shot five to twenty one. Then literally

1222
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:04,880
eight days later he looks like a superstar. He had

1223
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,599
zero block shots, by the way a wee can change ago.

1224
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:11,000
Last night he's got five block shots, sixteen rebounds. He's

1225
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,360
getting in the line like crazy. Rockets do a good

1226
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,360
job of being him up quite frankly and then keeping

1227
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,320
him under thirty points. But it's completely different.

1228
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: So the Rockets and Spurs played two different times in

1229
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,679
the same building and two different outcomes, Like it can

1230
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,679
happen that if the Patriots and Texans played ten times,

1231
00:58:26,719 --> 00:58:28,000
it'd be ten different outcomes.

1232
00:58:28,599 --> 00:58:30,159
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, we just had to happen.

1233
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:34,119
Speaker 2: We had to see what probably was, if not the worst,

1234
00:58:34,199 --> 00:58:36,559
at least the probably the second worst outcome.

1235
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,039
Speaker 11: Yeah, I again, I just I think the mission for

1236
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:44,639
this team needs to be one the obvious. You can't

1237
00:58:44,719 --> 00:58:46,920
start the season zero and three. You can't dig yourself

1238
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,159
that big of a hole. And as good as they

1239
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:51,440
played down the stretch of the season and got hot

1240
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,159
and all that, man, just to know that two more

1241
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:00,840
wins your way, you have home field and I isn't everything,

1242
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,800
but it is. It matters, particularly in those playoff games

1243
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:05,679
in January.

1244
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,239
Speaker 2: Particularly when you have a bad offensive line who needs

1245
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,320
to be better at communicating.

1246
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 11: I mean, look, people were was the big topic this week.

1247
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,000
People were bringing up all we played these playoff games

1248
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:18,639
and domes. They're just too important. They're too important for

1249
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,079
the Texans playing in a controlled environment like anergy.

1250
00:59:21,199 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: I think matters. Yeah, and you go back to it Ross.

1251
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,239
Speaker 11: I mean that stupid Tampa game you should have won,

1252
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,159
you know, like how that game played out, you lose

1253
00:59:34,199 --> 00:59:37,159
by one. Yeah, but there's a lot of games you

1254
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:40,840
should The game against Denver you probably should.

1255
00:59:41,159 --> 00:59:44,039
Speaker 2: Stroud didn't get hurt especially uh yeah, but you could

1256
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:47,119
have easily lost the Jaguars Davis Mills.

1257
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 4: The opener, you were one play away from possibly win

1258
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:50,360
of that game.

1259
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: Bill's game, they could have lost easily Rams game. They

1260
00:59:53,679 --> 00:59:56,159
I'm not Rams Rams game they did lose. I'm talking

1261
00:59:56,199 --> 00:59:59,679
about the Jaguars game, So yeah, it can go either Raiders,

1262
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:03,199
they could have lost tough. They try to give that

1263
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,360
game up. They try to yack up that Chargers game too,

1264
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,960
getting up fourteen. I think they were just a one

1265
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,559
score game type of team and things didn't unfortunately swing

1266
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:15,559
their way. But you have a situation where in Carolina,

1267
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,559
like they built around Bryce Young, they got him, Ted McMillan,

1268
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:23,239
they drafted xavierly Get, they got some offensive linemen in

1269
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,039
the building. You got Chewba Hubbard and Rico Dowdell. Like

1270
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:31,480
they they they're giving him the best opportunity to try

1271
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:36,360
and be successful over there in Carolina. So I just

1272
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,119
think you'd like to see something similar here, especially starting

1273
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,960
with the offensive line and then going with the run

1274
01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:43,800
game as well.

1275
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,239
Speaker 11: The realities of this is you needed two more wins.

1276
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,840
If you had beaten Denver and you had beaten pick

1277
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,840
any of those other games, Tampa or whoever, you're fourteen

1278
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,960
and three and you're probably you have home field, and

1279
01:00:56,039 --> 01:00:58,760
we're talking about playoff, the playoffs running through NRG.

1280
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: To me, that is the goal.

1281
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 11: If you can get to that, that's where you control

1282
01:01:04,519 --> 01:01:06,440
your destiny. I feel like this team would be playing

1283
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,079
for the super Bowl right now if if they had

1284
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:10,039
had home field throughout.

1285
01:01:10,159 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's un Fordre all right, Stephen in Port. Let's

1286
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,760
get him real quick ahead of a break we have.

1287
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,760
I just don't get it coming up next? What's up Stephen?

1288
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:21,599
Speaker 5: Oh Steven?

1289
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,239
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, hello, my friends.

1290
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:24,559
Speaker 14: There we go.

1291
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,239
Speaker 4: What's up?

1292
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:26,559
Speaker 14: Oh?

1293
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: Longtime listener.

1294
01:01:27,719 --> 01:01:30,239
Speaker 8: First, I know I've called before, Cordy. It's actually great

1295
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,760
to hear you on.

1296
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:33,679
Speaker 14: I just wanted to talk a little bit about I

1297
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,320
wanted to cool my head a little bit on the

1298
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,840
Stroud because I was so mad for.

1299
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:38,719
Speaker 8: A couple of weeks there.

1300
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 14: But so I don't understand why so much of this

1301
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:48,760
blame is being tossed on him when the interior line

1302
01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:52,800
was terrible versus the Patriots, And I'm just.

1303
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 8: Wondering, what the what do you guys think about our.

1304
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 14: Off season projections as far as getting some veterans in

1305
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,159
on the interior line, Jake Andrews, he didn't do it

1306
01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:05,440
for me.

1307
01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 8: I don't think he does it for thirty one other

1308
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:13,000
in starting teams either. Basically, I just want to give.

1309
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 5: My props to DJ.

1310
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,719
Speaker 8: I think he was trying to do too much.

1311
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 14: I think I don't think he was fully healed from

1312
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:19,679
that concussion.

1313
01:02:20,239 --> 01:02:22,039
Speaker 8: I think he was in his own head.

1314
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 14: But he's got the talent, and I don't think they

1315
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:27,599
should break the bank on him, but I think they should.

1316
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:30,199
They should extend him in some fashion, and I think

1317
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:32,079
they should do it sooner than later so they can

1318
01:02:32,159 --> 01:02:34,320
do it at a at a lower amount.

1319
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 8: And I just want to see what you guys thoughts

1320
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,559
are on that, And that's.

1321
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: That's that it all right, Thank you, Steven. Yeah, they

1322
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:43,639
they could. Look they were kind of what they did

1323
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:46,440
with Nico Collins. They're like, the breakout's coming with Nico Collins.

1324
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,159
So let's get ahead of this. Let's get him at

1325
01:02:48,199 --> 01:02:51,320
a good market price where we're betting that we are

1326
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,280
going to win on this deal.

1327
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 4: And that worked for the Houston Texans. Yeah, I just

1328
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:58,880
I just don't see that willing to take a discount

1329
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,519
like that's just not likes to get paid.

1330
01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:03,639
Speaker 2: We had Joel Cory on at the top of the

1331
01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:05,320
hour and he mentioned like Davi's gonna be saying, hey,

1332
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,000
look at this Lawrence deal, look at this other deal,

1333
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:08,880
look at these other deals, like the we need to

1334
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:09,760
get paid and if.

1335
01:03:09,679 --> 01:03:10,599
Speaker 4: They hit the market.

1336
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,079
Speaker 11: Nobody's talking about Stroud's struggles like his campus going.

1337
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:16,719
Speaker 4: Man, did you see this guy's rooky air?

1338
01:03:17,239 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 5: Oh?

1339
01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 11: Man, see how young this guy. He's only gonna get better.

1340
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:21,199
He's only gonna get better.

1341
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: Like I expect his fifth yeah, his fifth year option

1342
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,679
to get picked up, and then if he has a

1343
01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:29,000
good year next year, they'll try to work out an extension.

1344
01:03:29,199 --> 01:03:30,840
That's that's kind of how I expect it to play

1345
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,840
out at this point. But the situation about around him

1346
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:34,840
was horrible.

1347
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 4: There is no denying that.

1348
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,039
Speaker 11: Are you real quick on the the out outdoor atmosphere

1349
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:43,519
and snow and all that? You think we should push

1350
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:44,679
for more dome games.

1351
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,599
Speaker 2: I guess Mike Florio wants neutral site games like in Miami,

1352
01:03:48,679 --> 01:03:51,119
New Orleans and all that stuff for the championship games.

1353
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:53,519
Speaker 11: I'll say this, it's not crazy because we do it

1354
01:03:53,639 --> 01:03:56,320
with the with the super Bowl, and there's a reason

1355
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,800
why the super Bowl sites are always Miami. Yeah, we

1356
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:05,719
say football, but when it comes to that, Mason Dixon,

1357
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,119
unless you got a dome like the Kings, right or Yeah,

1358
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:12,360
you get a new stadium built and you have a dome,

1359
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:17,039
So I I think it's fun for the spectacle, Like

1360
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:18,920
if the Texans were in that game, I'd be pissed,

1361
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,239
since it was Broncos Patriots, and I didn't care.

1362
01:04:21,719 --> 01:04:25,079
Speaker 4: I thought it was entertaining. And like the the they're

1363
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:26,480
punting the ball as a doom.

1364
01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:30,639
Speaker 2: It sounds like a truck ramming into the stadium when

1365
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:33,079
they're punting the ball and everybody's and the guy's getting

1366
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:34,920
high fives for punting at thirty yards.

1367
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 4: It was crazy, man, But I think it's fun for

1368
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:39,039
the spectacle of it.

1369
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you want actual, good, best football, you

1370
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,599
could possibly do something with the neutral side. I think

1371
01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:46,639
Matt Thomas said that no way, no chance on how

1372
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:50,159
that would ever happen. I think if you get money involved,

1373
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,960
I will never doubt. I will never try to short

1374
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:57,039
change the greed from NFL owners, and it would be

1375
01:04:57,079 --> 01:04:57,679
better football.

1376
01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 5: It would all right.

1377
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,239
Speaker 2: Quick break here on the Tomas Show with Ross. You

1378
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:05,639
have something in your life or in sports that you

1379
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:06,400
just don't get.

1380
01:05:06,639 --> 01:05:07,199
Speaker 9: What is that?

1381
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: Why is that happening? I don't understand why this is

1382
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:13,280
so popular. I don't understand why this keeps happening. You

1383
01:05:13,519 --> 01:05:15,840
can bring it to the table seven one three, two,

1384
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,159
one two five seven ninety is the phone number. Seven

1385
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:22,840
one three two one two five seven ninety. What don't

1386
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,719
you get that's coming up next here on Sports Talk

1387
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:26,199
seven ninety.

1388
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:32,719
Speaker 1: Do you have something in.

1389
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 15: Your life that you just don't get No need to worry,

1390
01:05:37,199 --> 01:05:40,079
no need to press. We will just does the topics.

1391
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,400
Just see if we comprehend the things that they can

1392
01:05:43,559 --> 01:05:44,159
use our friends.

1393
01:05:44,199 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: It's time to stay.

1394
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:54,679
Speaker 4: I just don't get it, all right, It's that time

1395
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:55,039
of week.

1396
01:05:56,679 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: Do you have something in your life or something that

1397
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,199
you see, or something in the sports world or something

1398
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,719
outside of the sports world that's not top politics though,

1399
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,559
that you just don't understand. You don't get it. Why

1400
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:16,519
does this keep happening? Why is this so popular? Bring

1401
01:06:16,559 --> 01:06:18,639
it to the table, tell us why don't you get it?

1402
01:06:18,719 --> 01:06:20,760
Seven one three or you don't get it, We'll tell

1403
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,559
you if we get it or we don't. Seven one three,

1404
01:06:22,639 --> 01:06:25,400
two one two five seven ninety is the phone number

1405
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,440
if you want to get in a seven one three

1406
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:33,360
two one two five seven ninety. Gordy, since you are

1407
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,559
a guest, I will throw to you first, what is

1408
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:37,599
something that you just don't understand?

1409
01:06:37,719 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 4: Well?

1410
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 11: The first one is the eleven morons that voted not

1411
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:44,559
to put Bill Belichick into the Hall of Fame.

1412
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,079
Speaker 2: I will say, well, we don't even know if it's eleven.

1413
01:06:48,199 --> 01:06:49,960
I wonder do we ever get a new We just

1414
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:52,800
know that it was calculated. It was fifty voters, and

1415
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,000
eleven of them had to I thought, because well, I

1416
01:06:55,079 --> 01:06:57,280
thought it was at least eleven because he had to

1417
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,320
make he had to make eighty percent, and he not.

1418
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,519
That's what did somebody like to try to try to

1419
01:07:02,599 --> 01:07:03,159
figure it out.

1420
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:06,519
Speaker 11: Oh, there's somebody who's been running a list of the voters,

1421
01:07:06,599 --> 01:07:09,960
and and he's got a list of the positive you know,

1422
01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:12,920
the people that that have affirmed on social media or

1423
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,920
whatever that they definitely voted for him, one of them

1424
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:16,960
being John McClain.

1425
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 4: He has outed himself as a four Bill BELLI that's good.

1426
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:26,239
I I will say that I get it. I would look,

1427
01:07:26,239 --> 01:07:29,239
if I had to vote, I'm voting Bill Belichick in yes,

1428
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,400
Like that's the easiest of easiest things.

1429
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,199
Speaker 11: And it just it gets stupid over the whole the

1430
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,280
spy gate, the flay gate, even if you think that

1431
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,280
that was a little bit of an edge, I'm sorry,

1432
01:07:40,519 --> 01:07:42,599
did they didn't win Super Bowls because of spy game?

1433
01:07:42,639 --> 01:07:46,119
Speaker 4: I just I don't think so either. But you still

1434
01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:47,679
cheated if you cheat the game.

1435
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,039
Speaker 2: It's not like he's getting banned from the Hall of

1436
01:07:50,119 --> 01:07:53,239
Fame if I said you got if I said, hey,

1437
01:07:53,559 --> 01:07:57,239
a head coach got a draft pick taken from his

1438
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,280
organization and was fined five thousand dollars and so he

1439
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,280
had to wait for one year penance and to get

1440
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,599
in the Hall of Fame. That to me doesn't seem

1441
01:08:05,639 --> 01:08:08,400
that crazy. I think it's because Spygate was so long ago.

1442
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,239
If it was like five years ago and it was

1443
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,719
the same exact offense, it would be fresher on everyone's

1444
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,480
mind and it would make a lot more sense because

1445
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:17,319
I'm with you. Like when I first saw it, I

1446
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,800
was I saw JJ Watt, this is unbelievable, Tom Brady,

1447
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,159
I can't bah my god. I got Pat Mahomes whoever else,

1448
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:25,399
And I was like, yeah, I was with him. I

1449
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:26,399
have my pitchfork out.

1450
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 4: I was ready.

1451
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:27,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1452
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: And then I read about oh the spy I even

1453
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:30,840
forgot about Spygate.

1454
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 4: She probably people holding grudges about that, but it's.

1455
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:38,359
Speaker 11: Just it's it's I get over it. Like he's the

1456
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:40,560
greatest coach of all time. But it's the same thing

1457
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,279
with Barry Bond, Like I go back to Barry Bonce,

1458
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:44,439
Barry buonce was the greatest football player of all time,

1459
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,880
your grace hitter of all time, even if you take

1460
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:52,000
out the steroids. So I just feel like he deserves

1461
01:08:52,079 --> 01:08:55,159
to be in regardless, Bond should be in the Baseball

1462
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:59,039
Hall of Fame, and then Bill Belichick again when nobody's

1463
01:08:59,079 --> 01:09:01,800
won as many super Bowl Like, just he deserves to

1464
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:02,600
be in first ballot.

1465
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 2: I don't care what your opinion is on Yeah, all right,

1466
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:11,479
I will go next. I'm gonna go with a football one.

1467
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:16,600
I don't get why these NFL owners are not learning.

1468
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:23,199
Every year there's more and more and more head coaches fired.

1469
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:25,159
I mean, are we that caught up and looking for

1470
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:27,960
the next best thing? Where Sean McDermott, I mean you

1471
01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:32,640
have you had ten vacancies out of thirty two, ten vacancies.

1472
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,800
Raiders still haven't hired a coach, Cardinals still haven't hired

1473
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:37,159
a coach.

1474
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 4: What are these owners? Who are these owners that are

1475
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,920
thinking I need the next best thing.

1476
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:44,319
Speaker 2: I have to fire my coach so fast and they're

1477
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:48,720
getting fired so quickly now to where you end up

1478
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:49,560
scrambling like the.

1479
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 4: Raiders and the cardinal. You're getting the tenth best candidate.

1480
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,119
You're the Cleveland Browns. Oh, we're all smart. We're gonna

1481
01:09:54,119 --> 01:09:58,319
fire Kevin Stevanski, two time AP Coach of the Year,

1482
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,359
who has a dominant def and you're giving him Shador

1483
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,960
Sanders and Dylan Gabriel at quarterback. You fire him for

1484
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:09,880
Todd Munkin. Is Todd Munkin an upgrade of Kevin Stefanski.

1485
01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:12,279
I don't think there's a person on the planet that

1486
01:10:12,359 --> 01:10:15,079
thinks that the thing. When are these owners gonna learn

1487
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,119
that just moving on to the next best thing is

1488
01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:22,600
not always the greatest idea. It's like they're a teenager

1489
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,880
in the dating world going to girlfriend after girlfriend after girlfriend, Like,

1490
01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:30,439
come on, man, be adults here. I don't get how

1491
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,439
this has gotten so out of hand. I'll throw you

1492
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,720
on more NFL retreads. I don't get it.

1493
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,319
Speaker 11: Why is one man's trash another man's treasure. It always

1494
01:10:40,359 --> 01:10:43,119
happens to start. Robert Sala sucked as a head coach

1495
01:10:43,159 --> 01:10:45,479
with the Jets, but the Titans went, no, man, there's

1496
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,920
something there, and then fast forward. Let me give you you,

1497
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,119
Let me give you a headline two and a half

1498
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:53,159
years from now, Yes, Robert Sala fired as Titans head coach.

1499
01:10:54,319 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 2: Now the biggest red tread we can think of. We've

1500
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,159
mentioned earlier in this segment.

1501
01:11:00,199 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 5: At check.

1502
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, fired with the Browns, and he was great with

1503
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,720
the Patriots. But I would I'm trying to think of

1504
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:06,560
who else say.

1505
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,359
Speaker 4: It's more missus than it's my party going to the Steelers? Oh,

1506
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,279
my god, exactly the Steelers. Well, now, the Steelers didn't.

1507
01:11:13,079 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: Fire Mike Tomlin, so I can give them a I

1508
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,520
can give a bit of a nudge a pass on

1509
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,760
that he was let go. Who is the second most

1510
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,479
successful even are currently head coach?

1511
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 4: Now, Kyle Shanahan's only been with the Niners, right, I

1512
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,119
know he bounced around as that offensive coordinator. Oh, Dan

1513
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:36,840
Quinn with the Commanders a nice year one. If you

1514
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,840
have backwards hat guy as your NFL head coach, I'm

1515
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:41,800
a little bit wary of that.

1516
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: Would you say that Mike Rabel retread? But he shouldn't

1517
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:45,439
have been fired with the Titans?

1518
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 5: Right?

1519
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 4: Would you say Gary Kopiak with the Broncos crowd, they

1520
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,640
won a Super Bowl? Now, they didn't win it because

1521
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,520
of his great offensive game plan and they had an

1522
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,800
all time dominant defense where Warrd Phillips winning Super Bowl

1523
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,640
with Gary I'll give you the best retread, what Andy Reid.

1524
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,920
That's gotta be going, Yeah, there's so yeah, it can work.

1525
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 11: But I would say, but I'm saying more the retread

1526
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,920
of you sucked the first time as a head coach,

1527
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:12,800
Sean Payton get hired fired, No, he retired with the singers, right, Okay.

1528
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,600
I'm just saying with the guys that clearly failed as

1529
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,279
a head coach and then they go back as a

1530
01:12:20,399 --> 01:12:22,680
d C or at OC and they're good again, and

1531
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,239
then they go, ah, what are we missing?

1532
01:12:24,279 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 2: This guy needs to be our head coach. Yeah, well

1533
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,960
he sucked the first time. McCarthy is the prime example

1534
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,880
of that, I think. I mean, there's no way that

1535
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:32,479
works out.

1536
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,199
Speaker 4: I mean Stefansky had what one good year in Cleveland?

1537
01:12:37,079 --> 01:12:39,000
He was coaching the year twice he had two good years.

1538
01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:39,560
I'll tell you this.

1539
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,199
Speaker 11: My buddies who were Saints fans are like Robert or uh,

1540
01:12:42,359 --> 01:12:43,840
Stefanski is the Falcons coach.

1541
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,239
Speaker 2: Doesn't scare me. I think he's good. I think he's

1542
01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:48,560
a really good offensive game planner. I think, yeah, like

1543
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,800
I said, two times, he won the coach of the

1544
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,159
Year in twenty twenty and twenty twenty three with the Browns.

1545
01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 4: Oh, here's some other retreads that never worked. Jeff Fisher.

1546
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,319
Speaker 2: Oh, hey, come on, Manvy Smith. Hey, that was they

1547
01:13:01,399 --> 01:13:05,239
were just looking for a name, didn't they. Did they

1548
01:13:05,319 --> 01:13:07,439
pivot from David to the Levee Smith when it was

1549
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,840
when they were the Josh McCown stuff was going down?

1550
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,479
Or was that when they pivoted to David Keully. I

1551
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:17,079
can't recall. I'm gonna throw up. That was actually a

1552
01:13:17,199 --> 01:13:18,960
very dark era of the Texans. I don't eve want

1553
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:19,119
to talk.

1554
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 4: David Kelly gets another head coaching out. He is on

1555
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,399
the ranch. Oh, he's getting interviewed somewhere. Did they get

1556
01:13:28,119 --> 01:13:31,039
he got out with the Raiders, That's what I'm saying.

1557
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,159
Speaker 2: Somebody new now you had to fire old man Pete Carroll.

1558
01:13:35,159 --> 01:13:36,880
I mean you were wheeling them up to the stadium

1559
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:37,880
for goodness sakes.

1560
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:40,359
Speaker 4: Why you know John Gruden, Let's just put his name

1561
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,960
back out there. Yeah, David Cully is out chilling. And

1562
01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:45,560
what was that TI I'm trying to pull up that

1563
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,479
high school he was coaching at Nashville somewhere. Yeah, I

1564
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,960
can't remember. Yeah, White County.

1565
01:13:51,399 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 5: I'm in.

1566
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,199
Speaker 2: I'll buy White County High School sitting on his buyout

1567
01:13:54,279 --> 01:13:55,760
cash to carry him.

1568
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,119
Speaker 4: Remember a few years ago, people were there last Jim

1569
01:13:58,239 --> 01:14:01,760
Caldwell's name again. Can we oh my god, like, why

1570
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:02,359
do we do this?

1571
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: Why?

1572
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:03,359
Speaker 5: I don't know?

1573
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 4: And here's it's exacerbary even more.

1574
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 14: Ross.

1575
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 11: If you take a year off and go do media,

1576
01:14:08,119 --> 01:14:11,239
your name gets hot again, You're fired NFL head coach.

1577
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,119
Speaker 4: Go do media for a year, your name will pop

1578
01:14:14,239 --> 01:14:14,640
up again.

1579
01:14:15,119 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Salah McCarthy, Harball, Jeff Haffley, Todd Mounkin, Joe Brady elevated,

1580
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,319
you have Jesse mentor Kevin Stefanski, and then you have

1581
01:14:23,399 --> 01:14:24,199
two vacancies.

1582
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 4: That's ten new head coaches next year at a thirty two.

1583
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:29,760
I like John Harball.

1584
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 11: But Ross, if I made you put one thousand dollars

1585
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,960
right now, will John Harball make the playoffs as the

1586
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,720
head coach of the Giants for the next five years?

1587
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,199
Speaker 2: Would you go make the playoffs five years? Yes, win

1588
01:14:41,279 --> 01:14:45,760
a championship? Still tell no, I would say odds are no, honestly, Yeah.

1589
01:14:46,039 --> 01:14:48,199
It feels a little lit like John Harball the game

1590
01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:50,640
passing by a little bit. Same thing from Tomlin so

1591
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,520
seven and ten good leader of men type coaches.

1592
01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 11: Football five hundred. But they just miss a wild cart spot,

1593
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:58,680
like I could see that.

1594
01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 4: But we'll see.

1595
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a good coach, he's got time, he's

1596
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,560
not that old. Was he in his sixties? So uh,

1597
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,039
we'll see with John.

1598
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,319
Speaker 11: Said like I'd rather I like the Joe Brady higher Yeah. Shoot,

1599
01:15:09,359 --> 01:15:11,560
I like Todd Mulkin, Like take a chance on somebody

1600
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:12,479
first time head coach.

1601
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:13,199
Speaker 4: As a post of the.

1602
01:15:13,239 --> 01:15:17,159
Speaker 2: Retreads, Yeah, all right, Jonathan, we forgot to get not forgot.

1603
01:15:17,279 --> 01:15:19,319
We didn't have time. We ran out of time to

1604
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:19,760
get yours.

1605
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:20,239
Speaker 4: Jonathan.

1606
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: We'll get you when we come back. You guys want

1607
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,199
to get in? What is something you just don't get?

1608
01:15:25,359 --> 01:15:28,680
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety seven

1609
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,640
one three two one two five seven.

1610
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 4: Ninety two.

1611
01:15:40,199 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: Eleven fifty one here on a sports talk seven ninety

1612
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,279
You can still get in with what you don't get

1613
01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:46,760
if you'd like, you got a couple of minutes seven

1614
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:51,359
one three two one two five seven ninety seven one

1615
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:56,920
three two one two five seven nine zero Jonathan Allen, what.

1616
01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 4: Don't you get?

1617
01:15:58,840 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 8: Uh?

1618
01:15:59,079 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 4: As you'll know, I'm gonna try, guy man. So real quick.

1619
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,600
The reason why I did track and why I fell

1620
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:04,079
in love with the.

1621
01:16:04,079 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 2: Sports school record holder SFA folks, all right, put some

1622
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:09,000
respect on his name.

1623
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 4: Well, just hit me out.

1624
01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 10: And the reason why I do this and I love

1625
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,720
track in just the Olympics in general, is because of

1626
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,520
what athletics is supposed to be. It's supposed to be

1627
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,840
the great Like as a human, you are doing something

1628
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:21,960
that no one else has done.

1629
01:16:22,079 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, that's why I sports. You're excelling at that, right,

1630
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,720
So the pushing the humans limits.

1631
01:16:27,039 --> 01:16:29,239
Speaker 10: And so with the football and all these sports being

1632
01:16:29,279 --> 01:16:32,439
relatively new to you know, old running, throwing, whatever, whatever,

1633
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,960
you have, integrity you have to uphold. So when it

1634
01:16:37,039 --> 01:16:42,000
comes down to Lam's armstrong doing peds, performance handy drugs,

1635
01:16:42,359 --> 01:16:44,000
gets all his Olympic mails tooken away.

1636
01:16:44,199 --> 01:16:44,520
Speaker 9: Uh huh.

1637
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 10: If Michael felts to do the same thing, everything's getting

1638
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,800
taken away. If you same bolt did the same thing,

1639
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:52,159
he would not be known as the fastest man on Earth.

1640
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:57,000
Football and football is coach, coach. You got your military

1641
01:16:57,119 --> 01:16:59,800
versus my military. We go out it see who's stronger,

1642
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,159
who gets more points, but wins. If Belichick is the

1643
01:17:03,279 --> 01:17:06,920
one ruin his entigty and ruin an entigity of NFL.

1644
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,680
He shouldn't even be sniffing the Hall of Fame. If

1645
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,560
they really will about it, you can be upset with it,

1646
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,600
but I just don't understand the point of oh, because

1647
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,840
he won this many things. No, this is the WWE,

1648
01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:20,079
this is supposed to be the NFL, one of the

1649
01:17:20,119 --> 01:17:23,239
greatest sports in the world. The same with MLB. MLB

1650
01:17:23,319 --> 01:17:25,840
they're doing steroids. Oh Barry Bonds. Oh yeah, he's a

1651
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:29,800
cool spectacle. But are you even an athlete at that point?

1652
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,439
Are you really a human, god given athlete? You're not

1653
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,640
at that point. You are trying to rit the game,

1654
01:17:35,039 --> 01:17:35,319
and in.

1655
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 4: Itself it's distasteful. And I see why those people didn't

1656
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,880
vote again, And that's what I just don't get.

1657
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,039
Speaker 2: You don't get why he shut Yeah, look, I get

1658
01:17:42,039 --> 01:17:44,520
why people are like, oh, upset, But now Gordy's talking

1659
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,279
about this guy who's like he's on a witch hunt.

1660
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,399
Speaker 4: This guy's like, all right, I have a chop counting

1661
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:53,439
up all the public votes who didn't vote for Bell Belichick.

1662
01:17:54,399 --> 01:17:57,520
Right now, I just say, put your name on it.

1663
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,079
If you're gonna have the balls to go.

1664
01:18:01,159 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 5: Make him.

1665
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 4: Wait a year.

1666
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:04,319
Speaker 2: I think I think Jonathan makes a good point where

1667
01:18:04,399 --> 01:18:06,399
to where if you get if you get a stain

1668
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,119
where Pete you took pds once.

1669
01:18:08,079 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 11: How much of a stain was on they sent some

1670
01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:14,359
cameras to an opposing price. Well, it was a major scandal.

1671
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,760
Take a little bit forget ball. It was a mass

1672
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,000
It was a massive national story.

1673
01:18:21,159 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 4: They had a draft pick taken away, had a draft

1674
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,840
pick taken away, and you get fined five hundred thousand dollars.

1675
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,520
The biggest they won a Super Bowl because of spy games.

1676
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 10: I didn't say that, but think about the history, as

1677
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,640
he said, thirty years on the line. Let's say that

1678
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,439
said thirty years on the line, and we go, okay,

1679
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,279
who's all the fames?

1680
01:18:35,319 --> 01:18:36,239
Speaker 4: And you go to Belichick.

1681
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 11: Oh wait, He's give you a little spoiler, Jonathan. The

1682
01:18:40,319 --> 01:18:43,199
Steelers of the sixties and seventies were all popping royds.

1683
01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:45,600
There are guys in the Hall of Fame that took steroids.

1684
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 4: So like, that's true. We can't get high Horse in

1685
01:18:49,079 --> 01:18:51,319
twenty twenty six and be like, whoa, you're not taking

1686
01:18:51,399 --> 01:18:52,520
him out of the high You're not getting on a

1687
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,680
high horse. He's getting in the Hall of fame that

1688
01:18:55,159 --> 01:18:58,840
he's not banned for life. He's gonna get in there.

1689
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,359
Bill says, I couldn't hear over all these rings. No

1690
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,600
one will ever have that many super Bowl rings. Nobody,

1691
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,239
nobody's gonna talk to nobody's even gonna talk about this

1692
01:19:06,359 --> 01:19:07,039
in ten years.

1693
01:19:07,199 --> 01:19:09,159
Speaker 2: It's a one year penance. He gets held out of

1694
01:19:09,239 --> 01:19:11,319
he gets held behind the velvet rule. They didn't let

1695
01:19:11,399 --> 01:19:13,680
him in the club for one hour. All right, hey,

1696
01:19:14,399 --> 01:19:17,960
you're not on the list. No, no one should ever

1697
01:19:18,079 --> 01:19:21,840
be first ballot ever, that's ridiculous. Alright, ballot, no one is.

1698
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 4: No he is, he should be, But who can.

1699
01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 11: Don't come to me with Tony Dungee or Sean Payton

1700
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:28,760
or any these other morons.

1701
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 4: No one should ever be.

1702
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: Why Why do two words make it so much that

1703
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,760
much of a difference. He's not gonna put they put

1704
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,359
that on your gold jacket, first ballot. I don't think

1705
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,720
it's it's that big of a deal to.

1706
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:41,319
Speaker 4: You, Gordian.

1707
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,119
Speaker 10: If there's another coach says to go win eight super

1708
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:46,760
Bowls just like Bellot today, but no scandal at all.

1709
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:50,319
Shouldn't he be a But I'm just saying, if this

1710
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:55,119
is a hypothetical if that happens, and shouldn't he be

1711
01:19:55,239 --> 01:19:56,720
more first ballot, then no, this is.

1712
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 11: Gonna be some dumb ass voter that puts himself on

1713
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:03,399
a solo thinks his opinion matters. He's gona well, I

1714
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,680
think you should have to wait. Y'all bring the same

1715
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,800
energy when jose Al Tuove's got to sit around and

1716
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,920
waits like, well, nol Tuve didn't take part in.

1717
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,399
Speaker 4: The cheating, but he let it happen.

1718
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,560
Speaker 2: First of all, yeah, those are apples and oranges because

1719
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,239
it was a it was a team driven, scheme driven scandal.

1720
01:20:18,279 --> 01:20:20,520
If we're talking about aj Hinch being held out for

1721
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,279
a year if he ever makes the Hall of Fame,

1722
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,359
I wouldn't be shocking. We're talking about Alex Korra absolutely

1723
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:30,239
should be held back. He did two cheating scandals.

1724
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 4: With two twenty eighteen.

1725
01:20:32,399 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 2: Josel Tuve was part of a player driven uh scheme

1726
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,199
and did not participate in it.

1727
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 4: But also, I will say on the same token, I know,

1728
01:20:40,079 --> 01:20:42,800
I mean, oh yes, he did. It took him a

1729
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,399
long time. I want to orchestrate it. So if jose

1730
01:20:45,399 --> 01:20:48,199
Al Tuve, if I know, we're gonna get our pitchforks

1731
01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:50,640
out here, in Houston, and you're gonna say, I don't

1732
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:51,640
get it, Josel.

1733
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 2: Tuve needs to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.

1734
01:20:54,119 --> 01:20:55,920
I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna tell you, because

1735
01:20:56,039 --> 01:20:58,199
I just have to be unbiased. I have to be myself.

1736
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 4: I would get it. I would get it. I would

1737
01:21:01,039 --> 01:21:03,840
vote him in. I don't get a vote. I would

1738
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:06,680
have voted Bill Belichick in. I don't get a vote.

1739
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:09,680
That's where I am on it.

1740
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:10,079
Speaker 5: All right.

1741
01:21:10,359 --> 01:21:12,399
Speaker 2: We do have tick quick break here on the Matt

1742
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,880
Thomas Show with Ross here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

1743
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,600
Matt Thomas is out as he is with the Houston

1744
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,920
Rockets in Atlanta. Chris Gordy, appreciate you hanging your hanging.

1745
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 4: Out a little bit later. Are you bouncing on this?

1746
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 12: Oh?

1747
01:21:26,079 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 4: He's got it. He was very busy guy, like fifteen

1748
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:28,720
minutes to get too. That's okay.

1749
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: And Will and Adams show up at one o'clock. I

1750
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,399
asked both of them, and then I got a bunch

1751
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,399
of like silent looking why don't you do it?

1752
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:35,239
Speaker 4: No, maybe you should do it.

1753
01:21:35,319 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 5: So I don't know.

1754
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 4: Will there be an Adam at one o'clock. We'll see.

1755
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I can handle it, and that means you

1756
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,600
guys can come in and be a co host for

1757
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,119
a couple of minutes. You want to talk some ball

1758
01:21:43,159 --> 01:21:45,279
with me. We got the Bill Belichick thing people are

1759
01:21:45,319 --> 01:21:49,039
still fired up about. Is Bill Belichick.

1760
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 4: Getting slided the greatest travesty in football history? Or he's

1761
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,960
gonna be fine. He's wait a year.

1762
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:55,279
Speaker 5: All right?

1763
01:21:55,319 --> 01:21:57,199
Speaker 2: You know what, Go hang out in Kane Kun with

1764
01:21:57,239 --> 01:21:59,439
your girlfriend. All right, go figure out how to lose

1765
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,960
more games North Carolina. You've got yet stuff to do

1766
01:22:02,039 --> 01:22:03,520
with his time. He didn't have to be in Canton

1767
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,920
in August or whatever. All right, So we're talking about that.

1768
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,960
Rockets collapsed against the Spurs last night. We got other

1769
01:22:10,079 --> 01:22:12,520
NFL stuff going on as well. We had an interesting

1770
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,319
conversation with Joel Corey talking about CJ. Stroud and Will

1771
01:22:15,359 --> 01:22:18,760
Anderson's extensions. Anything you guys want to get to. Phone

1772
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,279
lines are wide open for you. Seven one three two

1773
01:22:21,359 --> 01:22:24,119
one two five seven ninety is the phone number that's

1774
01:22:24,199 --> 01:22:28,520
seven one three two one two five seven ninety is

1775
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,119
the Matt Thomas Show with Ross.

1776
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:43,159
Speaker 4: Twelve oh three in h Town. What's happening in lunch timers?

1777
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome in to our number three of The

1778
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:50,079
Matt Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas, but it's

1779
01:22:50,119 --> 01:22:54,119
with Ross. I'm here hanging out solo for this hour

1780
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:57,319
and perhaps more. We shall see as we go along.

1781
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:02,479
Phone lines are open. Two one, two five seven ninety

1782
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,199
is the number if you'd like to get in. Seven

1783
01:23:05,279 --> 01:23:08,560
one three two one two five seven ninety. We've been

1784
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,600
talking about Bill Belichick. I do uh, I have put

1785
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,119
a tweet out at Sports RV. We're gonna talk about

1786
01:23:14,119 --> 01:23:15,119
that in the next segment.

1787
01:23:15,199 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 4: It made me laugh. Uh what I saw.

1788
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: I screenshot at it. I did a little Google searching

1789
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,479
and I screenshot at it. You can check that out

1790
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,039
on my Twitter at Sports RV. So we have some

1791
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:26,640
Belichick stuff to get to. Of course, the Rockets collapsed

1792
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,359
last night. What else is going on in the sports

1793
01:23:28,399 --> 01:23:31,640
and news including those things. That's where we turned to

1794
01:23:32,039 --> 01:23:34,840
a Jonathan Allen for the News.

1795
01:23:37,039 --> 01:23:37,279
Speaker 12: Noon.

1796
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 4: What's up, Jonathan? Hey, how are you doing?

1797
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:40,079
Speaker 9: Man?

1798
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 1: You know what?

1799
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: I know, it was a really good point by you

1800
01:23:42,199 --> 01:23:45,880
to to put make the players, uh be holding to

1801
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,800
the same standards. I mean I saw the coaches to

1802
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,840
the players because I mean it was a major scandal.

1803
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,520
They got a draft pick taket all that timee and

1804
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,479
he's still going to get in the Hall of Fame.

1805
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 4: Exactly, And I just feel like it's being old Belichick,

1806
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,039
you know what I mean. I know I'm with you.

1807
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:00,359
Speaker 5: I'm with yeah.

1808
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,079
Speaker 2: All right, Blake, We'll get to you in a second.

1809
01:24:02,079 --> 01:24:03,319
But right now, we got the news at noon with

1810
01:24:03,399 --> 01:24:05,800
Jonathan Allen. What are the top sports news items of

1811
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:06,239
the day.

1812
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 10: Jonathan all right, let's get the way Rockets fall down

1813
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:13,920
to San Antonio one eleven to ninety nine, getting completely

1814
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:15,279
taken over in the fourth quarter.

1815
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,359
Speaker 4: If you watch the game, you know what happened.

1816
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 10: E May wasn't really too hot about the defense, and

1817
01:24:21,039 --> 01:24:22,800
he's been the screen about this all season long.

1818
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 4: Just not don't get stagnant. We still have to keep playing.

1819
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 9: And regardless of who's setting the screen to I'll be

1820
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,399
considered with the small and good advantage with Kevin those

1821
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,560
guys and vice versa. Man got to be a handler

1822
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,439
and move around and screen handle, do a little bit

1823
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,560
of both, and I don't think we were setting good

1824
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,359
screens for our men. He would just go underneath and

1825
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,880
didn't get much out of that, and then opera and

1826
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,279
they kind of pushed him off the block won't be flooded,

1827
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,199
and and we didn't get anything there on the elbow.

1828
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,720
You know, surprised we didn't get better at positioned with Albi.

1829
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,399
Speaker 4: So talk to me.

1830
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 10: He's the basketball guy. Man, What's what's going on, dude?

1831
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,680
Off the halftime, Okay, everything was gonna be good. Yeah,

1832
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:03,960
you went to sleep. It was a fourteen. It was

1833
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,479
the good, good thing. You went to sleep. You'd have

1834
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,319
to watch that disaster. I want to claw my eyes

1835
01:25:07,359 --> 01:25:09,359
out in the Toyota Center. That offense was so bad

1836
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,800
four of twenty three in the fourth quarter. Yeah, it

1837
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:16,800
was the It was the defense of Wimby guarding a men.

1838
01:25:17,039 --> 01:25:19,319
You have the five on the one, but sagging off

1839
01:25:19,359 --> 01:25:21,600
of them because you don't have to respect Amen Thompson's

1840
01:25:22,039 --> 01:25:24,960
three point shooting. So that allows Wimby to sag off

1841
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:27,720
and not allow the driving lanes for Amn Thompson. That

1842
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,319
allows him to help off of Amen Thompson because you don't.

1843
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:32,840
It clogs up to spacing.

1844
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: You can leave if Amn Thompson's in the perimeter to

1845
01:25:36,079 --> 01:25:39,199
try to space things out to let Kevin Durant or

1846
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:41,359
outpry Ching Goon operate in the elbow or in the paint,

1847
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,119
then you don't have to Wimby can be there because

1848
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:47,520
he doesn't have to guard Amn Thompson at the three

1849
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,880
point line. Then it's a five on four situation. So yeah,

1850
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,239
Rockets were not doing a great job adjusting to that.

1851
01:25:53,399 --> 01:25:56,720
And then you also had some switching defenses on the

1852
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,960
outprinching Goon and Kevin Durant actions that they were running

1853
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:02,920
and Stefan Castle, by the way, Wimby is the headliner

1854
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,199
of why this defense worked for the San Antonio Spurs,

1855
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:09,239
But Stefan Castle did a great job of being physical

1856
01:26:09,319 --> 01:26:12,760
and beating up on Alprin Shangoon, who who he should

1857
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,279
be able to handle and score over. But Shangoon. I

1858
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,479
had the fourth quarter stats. I think it was what

1859
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,560
they were combined, one of sixteen or whatever it well,

1860
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,600
two of sixteen. I think maybe in the fourth quarter.

1861
01:26:23,279 --> 01:26:27,000
You had all of them not performing well. In the

1862
01:26:27,079 --> 01:26:30,680
fourth quarter of that game. They completely collapsed and it

1863
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,079
was bad offense from everyone, but especially from who are

1864
01:26:34,199 --> 01:26:38,119
supposed to be your big three. Kevin Durant, Amen Thompson,

1865
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:41,439
Alprin Shangoon are supposed to be your big three. None

1866
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,760
of them could get anything going in that fourth quarter.

1867
01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:47,880
And the Rockets. They just lost the game. It's not

1868
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,760
like the Spurs scord like twenty seven. It wasn't anything crazy.

1869
01:26:51,279 --> 01:26:54,800
But when you have Durant one of four, Shangoon Ozero

1870
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,079
of five and the Men one of seven, Yeah, you're

1871
01:26:58,119 --> 01:26:58,760
not gonna get going.

1872
01:26:58,800 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 4: What else is in the news.

1873
01:27:00,119 --> 01:27:02,399
Speaker 10: Uh, I don't know if you saw our friend Chandla

1874
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,159
Rome for the Athletic had gave his astros projected twenty

1875
01:27:06,199 --> 01:27:08,359
twenty six lineup, and I just want to really yeah,

1876
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,239
so I did not see that. Yeah, it was a

1877
01:27:10,279 --> 01:27:14,439
couple of hours ago. Starting off, he's got Pina, of course,

1878
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,760
I'll tovey. Yeah, where's he at?

1879
01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 4: Second?

1880
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 10: Okay, Alvarez, I'm going in order, by the way, this

1881
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:26,199
is start Alvarez uh huh, Correa Diz yes, Walker yes,

1882
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,159
Smith okay, Cole huh.

1883
01:27:29,279 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 4: And then Myers okay, so Zach Colon left, Jake Myers

1884
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:37,239
in center, m catches being Diaz and Salazar's that means

1885
01:27:37,399 --> 01:27:43,720
no esac paradus. He I'm I'm I don't know. I'm

1886
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:44,520
just I'm.

1887
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 2: I understand that. Certainly for opening day it makes sense

1888
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,399
you gotta give them a shot. But having eastak paradis

1889
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,880
is one of your top three hitters. I'm sorry. I

1890
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,640
love jose Al Tuovey the history, but Eastech Paratus at

1891
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,399
this point in their careers is a better hitter than him.

1892
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:08,199
And Jeremy Penne and Jordan Alvarez are yord On is one. Obviously,

1893
01:28:08,279 --> 01:28:10,840
I'm probably putting pain to Payne or Parade is number two.

1894
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: Man.

1895
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 10: This is gonna be a it's gonna be fun. This

1896
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,319
is gonna see it fun. How to see this works out?

1897
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it comes around that.

1898
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1899
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,119
Speaker 2: And in that article, as you said, from Channel Room

1900
01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:28,359
of the Athletic, Houston's infield surplus seems untenable. It's uh

1901
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,600
not Corey Channeler Room quite the word Smith. By the way,

1902
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,000
he's worth the He's worth the price. I literally only

1903
01:28:34,039 --> 01:28:36,119
subscribe to the Athletic for channeler Rome. So a high

1904
01:28:36,119 --> 01:28:38,079
compliment to mister Rome. He's such a great writer. It

1905
01:28:38,079 --> 01:28:41,680
does such a great job covering the Houston Astros, really does.

1906
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,239
I wish they would get beat writers every day, beat

1907
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:46,359
writers for the Rockets and the Texans, but they don't

1908
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,840
because they gotta pay Ken Rosenthal's salary.

1909
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 4: But that's fine.

1910
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:54,520
Speaker 2: But anyways, Uh, great coverage is always from Channel Room there,

1911
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,680
and yeah, I logically, hey, Christian Walker is your first baseman.

1912
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,960
He's a Gold Glove caliber first base. Like, I don't

1913
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:03,159
know how you can stick keep estock praise his stick

1914
01:29:03,239 --> 01:29:05,880
out of the lineup consistently. It just doesn't make sense

1915
01:29:06,399 --> 01:29:09,960
long term. But that that is certainly interesting. Jake Myers

1916
01:29:10,039 --> 01:29:14,159
and center Zach cole In left for the Astros, says.

1917
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,159
Speaker 4: Chandler. Rum what else you got uh have? As well?

1918
01:29:19,399 --> 01:29:23,199
Speaker 10: Just some laid back Texans news from Jonathan and Alexander

1919
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,680
Alexander excuse me, uh, saying that Joe Mixon insists he

1920
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,560
will return for the twenty twenty six season, which would

1921
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:32,399
be amazing.

1922
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 2: But I mean John Alexander is saying that Jonathan and Alexander. Yeah, no,

1923
01:29:37,319 --> 01:29:39,800
that's okay, I mean he yeah, he's uh. I think

1924
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,479
you know, yeah, Johnathan is.

1925
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,039
Speaker 4: That some people don't like some Jonathans don't like that

1926
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,560
his Twitter handle is John in Alexander, but I think, yeah,

1927
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,720
he goes by Jonathan. But I think, you know, Jonathan

1928
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,640
Alexander doesn't fit in a Twitter handle. It's a lot

1929
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,239
of it's kind of wordy, a lot of characters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry you know from

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01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,920
Jonathan to Jonathan, I will call him Jonathan.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry you say that, Joe Mixon. Say that again.

1933
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 10: Joe Mixon in sixty will return for the Texans twenty

1934
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:06,680
twenty six season.

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01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 4: Did Nicko exist that? Does he know he's getting? You know,

1936
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,960
it's eight million dollars off the cap if they get

1937
01:30:14,039 --> 01:30:14,479
rid of him.

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01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 10: I'm finding I'm finding topics. I'm trying to give it

1939
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,560
to you. I don't I'm I'm not sure if I

1940
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:19,279
would believe that either.

1941
01:30:19,359 --> 01:30:23,399
Speaker 2: But I'm so a thirty year old running back coming

1942
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:25,640
off of a major foot injury where it seems like

1943
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:27,520
there was at the very least if he didn't shoot

1944
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:28,439
himself in the foot.

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Speaker 4: Literally, come on, Jonathan, there's no way that happened, right,

1946
01:30:33,119 --> 01:30:33,720
There's no way.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what.

1948
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:39,399
Speaker 4: It's like, very dark. It's been a widespread.

1949
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,399
Speaker 2: Little bit, but that I mean, if somebody gets shot

1950
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:43,640
in the foot and ends up at the hospital, people know,

1951
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,479
right it's got then they get filed in a police

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01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:47,199
report somewhere.

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01:30:47,319 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 4: Hippolaws. Man, I don't know, I don't know. I don't

1954
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,239
know because I mean, I'm staying with it because okay,

1955
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,960
that's only well, I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm right.

1956
01:30:55,319 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: It's only we only put a small bed on it

1957
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,520
because Matt seems super confident. I'm gonna tell you a

1958
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,560
little secret about Matt if sometimes he does get a

1959
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:05,000
little inside information here and there that he was so

1960
01:31:05,239 --> 01:31:07,199
confident too, I know. So I'm telling you I'm a

1961
01:31:07,199 --> 01:31:11,680
little scared because Matt here's the whispering wins around Houston

1962
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,800
a lot. Definitely give him credit on that, So I

1963
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,880
could be wrong. I'm not saying I'm one hundred percent right.

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That's why I only bet.

1965
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,399
Speaker 4: Coffee on it. But it just seems insane that that

1966
01:31:20,399 --> 01:31:25,159
would happen. Yeah, but that's the news at noon.

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01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 10: Not too much topics going on unless you got something

1968
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:28,760
you consented to, folks.

1969
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,359
Speaker 2: But all right, there you go, thanks for the news

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01:31:32,399 --> 01:31:34,399
at noon there, Jonathan. All right, Blake, we see you

1971
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,119
on hold. We'll get some asstros stuff with you. You

1972
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:40,000
guys want to get on hold, you can as well

1973
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,720
as I'm flying solo right now, so.

1974
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,520
Speaker 5: You wanna come hang out, don't give you the floor.

1975
01:31:45,399 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 4: Will be yours.

1976
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:52,079
Speaker 2: We gave out that Chandler rome projected lineup that does

1977
01:31:52,199 --> 01:31:55,760
not have esoch paratus in there to start the season.

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01:31:56,079 --> 01:31:57,960
How are we feeling about that? We've been talking about

1979
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,039
the rotation early on in the show as well. Of

1980
01:32:00,079 --> 01:32:02,319
course we've been talking about the Rockets lost to the Spurs.

1981
01:32:02,319 --> 01:32:03,840
I mean a lot of stuff going. It's supposed to

1982
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,079
be the slow time of year, but hey, we are

1983
01:32:06,159 --> 01:32:08,239
humming on all cylinders here on The Matt Thomas Show

1984
01:32:08,239 --> 01:32:10,159
with Ross. Anything you guys want to get to seven

1985
01:32:10,199 --> 01:32:13,199
one three two one two five seven ninety is the

1986
01:32:13,239 --> 01:32:16,760
phone number seven one three two one two five seven ninety.

1987
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,760
Ros Vria with you Jonathan Allen as well, flying solo

1988
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,279
for the moment to The Matt Thomas Show with Ross.

1989
01:32:23,359 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 4: With no Matt Thomas but with Ross. I'm trying to

1990
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:27,479
figure out O the way to make this like the

1991
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,239
extreme even longer of a description of the show.

1992
01:32:31,359 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm here. You guys can send me a tweet

1993
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,239
if you'd like at sports RV. I'd also appreciate a

1994
01:32:36,279 --> 01:32:40,760
follow on my Instagram at sports RV as well. I've

1995
01:32:41,079 --> 01:32:43,960
after neglect neglecting it for years, I've been trying to

1996
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,239
build it up, so I would appreciate a follow, just

1997
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:48,760
from friend to a friend, if you'd follow me at

1998
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,079
sports RV On Instagram. I really would appreciate it, and

1999
01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:55,279
I'll follow you back. Seven one three two one two

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01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,880
five seven ninety is the phone number if you want

2001
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,359
to get in. Seven one three two one two five

2002
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,880
seven ninety. We'll get to the Belichick stuff. A funny

2003
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,920
Google search I did you can find on my Twitter

2004
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,319
at sports RV. A couple of people in holding very patiently. Blake,

2005
01:33:09,359 --> 01:33:14,359
appreciate you holding through the break, Blake. The floor is yours.

2006
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 4: Hey, Ross, how you doing today? But I love the

2007
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,239
show man, Thank you.

2008
01:33:19,359 --> 01:33:21,319
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. It's a beautiful day to be alive

2009
01:33:21,359 --> 01:33:22,479
and I'm doing great man, Thank you.

2010
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 12: And my question is why do you think the Ashos

2011
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:31,159
asked Jose Ltuve and Carlos Korea to not participate in

2012
01:33:31,279 --> 01:33:33,279
the World Baseball Classic.

2013
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 4: Now the Final? Now it came down.

2014
01:33:36,199 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 2: The first initial report from Brian McTaggart was that Jose

2015
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:43,000
al Tuove was adhering to the wishes of the Houston Astros.

2016
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,279
Then Chandler Rome broke his story that it was an

2017
01:33:46,399 --> 01:33:50,119
insurance issue for Carlo's Caorea he could not get his

2018
01:33:50,359 --> 01:33:55,279
contract ensured in case he got hurt. And then Chandler

2019
01:33:55,359 --> 01:33:58,319
Rome followed up with another report, saying that it also

2020
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,039
was the case with Josel Tuve that he was unable

2021
01:34:02,079 --> 01:34:05,079
to get his contract insured in case there was some

2022
01:34:05,359 --> 01:34:08,920
sort of insurance issue. Here, I'll read I'll read you

2023
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,119
the tweets that I was pulling them up here. Josel

2024
01:34:11,159 --> 01:34:14,520
Twove's absence from the WBC, which Brian McTaggert first reported

2025
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:18,079
on Monday, is also due to insurance issues. Sources told

2026
01:34:18,119 --> 01:34:20,640
The Athletic that was Chandler Rome and then he also

2027
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,159
said Carlo's career failed to.

2028
01:34:23,239 --> 01:34:25,520
Speaker 4: Receive insurance on his contract.

2029
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know how much of it was the

2030
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,039
astros wishes how much of it was the contract issues,

2031
01:34:30,399 --> 01:34:33,199
but it's being reported that there were insurance issues for

2032
01:34:33,279 --> 01:34:34,760
both Carlos and Josel Tuve.

2033
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:37,199
Speaker 4: Get I get you.

2034
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:41,560
Speaker 12: And then one more question, man, how do you think

2035
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,640
why do you think from Burvaldez hasn't been signed yet?

2036
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine it's just because he's average, He's

2037
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,399
asking for a lot of money in a lot of years,

2038
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,399
and he's thirty two. Look, there are a lot of

2039
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,159
question marks, right, I mean, he opted out of the

2040
01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:00,960
qualifying offer which from Ervaldez as well within his rights

2041
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,560
and should have done to go ahead and see the

2042
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:07,119
market and at the worst one year, twenty one or

2043
01:35:07,159 --> 01:35:09,640
whatever million dollars would be what fromer Valdez would be

2044
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:10,960
able to get there.

2045
01:35:11,399 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 4: Gordy brought it up. I don't know who this source.

2046
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,039
So do you remember who? Gordy said?

2047
01:35:14,199 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 2: The San Francisco Giants were being floated as a possible

2048
01:35:17,279 --> 01:35:19,399
I forgot. I forgot, okay, so I would have to

2049
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,640
go back and look around that. But fromer Valdez, there's

2050
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:27,920
a number of factors working against him. Let's start with

2051
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,479
the on the field. Well, I guess this stuff happened

2052
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,159
on the field too, but you know what I'm saying

2053
01:35:33,039 --> 01:35:35,319
on the mound as far as throwing and all that stuff.

2054
01:35:35,359 --> 01:35:38,600
He's thirty two years old. He has been a workhorse

2055
01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:41,600
four straight years. He's been one hundred and seventy five

2056
01:35:42,079 --> 01:35:45,880
innings or more last four years thirty one, thirty one,

2057
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,079
twenty eight, thirty one starts. I mean, that is a

2058
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:52,279
workhorse that has been great. And the three of those

2059
01:35:52,359 --> 01:35:55,439
first four years at the caliber of finishing top ten

2060
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,000
and the cy Young did not do it last year

2061
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:02,840
and and slipped in terms of an era of three

2062
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,520
sixty six, which is the highest he's had since his

2063
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,560
second year in the league when he was twenty five

2064
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:13,319
years old in twenty nineteen, So he had his worst

2065
01:36:13,399 --> 01:36:15,439
year he's had in four or five years. He has

2066
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,319
piled up a whole lot of innings, so you're worried

2067
01:36:17,319 --> 01:36:19,880
about wear and tear. He is thirty two years old,

2068
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,479
So do you want to hand a thirty two year

2069
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:25,279
old a five six year contracting big money? And that's

2070
01:36:25,319 --> 01:36:28,319
what he's asking for. And that's all before we get

2071
01:36:28,359 --> 01:36:31,760
to the fact that he unraveled on the mound far

2072
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,800
too often and he it looks like he got intentionally

2073
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:40,520
crossed up with his catcher, saysar Salazar, and hit him

2074
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:42,760
in the stomach. Now, both of them said that that

2075
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,920
wasn't the case, even though Ateroids Frommer said, oh, it

2076
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:47,800
was my mistake, you know, I got the wrong signal,

2077
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:50,319
and then says Ar Salazar said, oh, it was my mistake.

2078
01:36:50,399 --> 01:36:52,439
I had the wrong Sinal was like, hey, both can't

2079
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:56,319
be telling the truth. Somebody's gotta be lying here. So

2080
01:36:57,079 --> 01:37:00,760
I don't know who knows if there's more whispers around

2081
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,840
the league about what happened or getting to the bottom

2082
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,159
of that stuff, But I mean, it's it seems like

2083
01:37:06,279 --> 01:37:11,600
it would be a precarious situation, like do I want

2084
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,199
to sign this thirty two year old too big money

2085
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,359
who does have a lot of innings on his arm,

2086
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:20,119
who also is prone to unraveling and then possibly being

2087
01:37:20,159 --> 01:37:20,760
a bad teammate.

2088
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 4: Do you think that took his stock that low after

2089
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,640
he did that? Yes, it costs me a bet. Now

2090
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,159
me and Matt didn't bet anything middle of the summer.

2091
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,840
The middle of the summer, Robert is like rolling on

2092
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,680
all cylinders. See this is I'm just cursed with bets

2093
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,039
with Matt. I don't know, it's just not great. It

2094
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:42,079
was like the middle of July. His era was under three.

2095
01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 2: He had had like seven or eight really good starts,

2096
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,359
ors like eight out of nine really good starts, and

2097
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,720
then August happened.

2098
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,079
Speaker 4: We made the bet. I was like, oh five over

2099
01:37:52,199 --> 01:37:53,840
five and a half years. Man, he's cruising.

2100
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:59,520
Speaker 2: Then he completely unravels against Boston and he had that

2101
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:05,079
horrible start in Detroit, and then I don't even remember

2102
01:38:05,079 --> 01:38:06,960
what started, was that he got crossed up with his catcher,

2103
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:11,239
and it became national news. Like every every baseball content

2104
01:38:11,359 --> 01:38:15,880
creator on the planet, like Doug's Baseball podcast in des

2105
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,960
Moines Iowa, like everyone was talking about it.

2106
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 4: Everyone is bad and that's bad PR.

2107
01:38:24,199 --> 01:38:26,279
Speaker 2: And whether you like it or not, PR matters when

2108
01:38:26,279 --> 01:38:30,760
you're handing a guy long term contract. So yeah, he

2109
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:34,279
and I don't know who his agents are. I'm sure

2110
01:38:34,279 --> 01:38:37,880
asking for they're wanting six years or something like that,

2111
01:38:39,119 --> 01:38:42,399
but I don't know that it's being that people are

2112
01:38:42,399 --> 01:38:45,720
willing to give out those free agent contracts, and especially

2113
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,720
not to fromer Valdez, who now we sit here on

2114
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:53,399
January twenty ninth. He does not have a home. Reports

2115
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:57,000
though that the San Francisco forty forty nine ers San

2116
01:38:57,039 --> 01:39:02,199
Francisco Giants are interested and fromer Valdez as a possible

2117
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,079
landing spot. All right, let's keep going on the phone line.

2118
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:08,439
Seven one three two two five seven ninety is the

2119
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,039
phone number you want to get in. Seven one three

2120
01:39:10,119 --> 01:39:13,199
two one two five seven ninety. Broderick, next up?

2121
01:39:13,239 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 4: What's up? Broderick?

2122
01:39:15,319 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 5: What's up?

2123
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Ross?

2124
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 7: I was about to call you mad, my bad bro,

2125
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,119
but before I get into my rockets point like you

2126
01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:26,039
were saying, I wh I remember that game with Forever.

2127
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:28,560
He was just man and he threw the ball left

2128
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:33,079
to catch him, Like Bro, everybody saw it like, so, yeah,

2129
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,399
that's enough about that though, still clip Crushhitty put to

2130
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:41,760
the rockets. I think yesterday was the first time since

2131
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:46,920
maybe his first year that I think I actually saw

2132
01:39:47,279 --> 01:39:52,159
me and like look hesitant as it pertained to winby.

2133
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:57,000
Now my question, unless I was wrong, didn't Wiby have

2134
01:39:57,279 --> 01:39:59,159
like four files in the third quarter?

2135
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:01,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? With nine minutes left in the fourth quarter he

2136
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:02,479
had four files?

2137
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 5: So third quarter, yeah, exactly.

2138
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 7: So what I would say is we should have like

2139
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,159
a men or anybody that should have tried to get

2140
01:40:14,199 --> 01:40:17,239
that Pheel filed, but they all backed up. But when

2141
01:40:17,279 --> 01:40:19,600
you got him on the ropes already at four files,

2142
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,600
he's frustrated because we can see it. Try to get

2143
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,279
that phel foul and get him out the game. So

2144
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,680
that's pretty much what I was gonna say, is it

2145
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,239
pertains to winby, but he did what he do? I

2146
01:40:31,319 --> 01:40:32,399
mean seven five?

2147
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:33,199
Speaker 5: What are you gonna do?

2148
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 7: Shit? Go? I love you to death. I'm glad we

2149
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,439
got you, but you can't be getting bullied by ste

2150
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:44,760
fund Castle Like, no, he's too little, bro. You gotta

2151
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,399
put him in the rim. If we watch you back

2152
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:51,000
when be under the rim, you definitely can get closer

2153
01:40:51,039 --> 01:40:54,359
to the rim as it pertains to stefund Castle. So

2154
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:57,359
we need you to not get mad because you're not

2155
01:40:57,479 --> 01:41:00,279
getting the car and force the official to make it call.

2156
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:06,560
Speaker 4: Just keep going to the pret Yeah, you know, I'm sorry,

2157
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:06,840
brod It.

2158
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, man. It's it's it's I mean,

2159
01:41:10,159 --> 01:41:12,960
that fourth quarter was horrible. They couldn't get anything going.

2160
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:15,880
As you said, Wemby, now I understand. Yeah, men maybe

2161
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,479
could have gone more at him. He was a little

2162
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:19,119
bit hesitant and and the rockets.

2163
01:41:19,279 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 4: The funny thing is, Broderick, that game, uh nine ten

2164
01:41:23,039 --> 01:41:25,800
days ago at TOYOTA'SA nobody was scared of Wimby. They

2165
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:27,319
were going after him, and they did throw up a

2166
01:41:27,319 --> 01:41:29,840
lot of shots and they got but he started piling

2167
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:31,640
up the blocks and it did seem like they got

2168
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,920
in his mind. And they they were physical with him

2169
01:41:35,399 --> 01:41:37,279
for the especially the first half and a lot of

2170
01:41:37,319 --> 01:41:40,199
the third quarter. And Wimby was he was rattled, like

2171
01:41:40,279 --> 01:41:41,920
you said, he was falling all over the place.

2172
01:41:42,039 --> 01:41:45,079
Speaker 2: He was flopping and falling over the ground and Alprin shingoons,

2173
01:41:45,119 --> 01:41:48,319
throwing away, throwing spinning dunks while he's all on the floor.

2174
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,039
Like they looked like the Rockets of Wimby, and then

2175
01:41:51,119 --> 01:41:55,000
something happened in that fourth quarter where it just it's

2176
01:41:55,119 --> 01:41:57,560
like he woke up or the Rockets fell asleep. I

2177
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:59,960
don't know, man, it just seemed like a completely different

2178
01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:02,000
match up in that fourth quarter than the rest of

2179
01:42:02,039 --> 01:42:02,359
the game.

2180
01:42:04,119 --> 01:42:06,199
Speaker 7: And then they gambled a little bit more too in

2181
01:42:06,279 --> 01:42:08,279
the fourth quarter, because I saw when he may got

2182
01:42:08,359 --> 01:42:13,439
mad at Okogi. But not only that. It's like if

2183
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:15,319
you White, well, you was at the Toyo Andersoner, so

2184
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:16,960
you saw it. I don't know if you noticed it,

2185
01:42:17,359 --> 01:42:20,279
but what Harper had like three or four drives back

2186
01:42:20,279 --> 01:42:22,920
to back where he got down here, nobody was in

2187
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:26,000
the paint. You gotta get back and protect the paint,

2188
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:29,319
like Alpy. Okay, your shot got blocked on one end

2189
01:42:29,359 --> 01:42:31,600
and you didn't get the call. We don't have time

2190
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,359
for you to complain.

2191
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:33,199
Speaker 8: You gotta go.

2192
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:37,199
Speaker 7: Somebody got even if it's not Appy, Hey, a me

2193
01:42:37,279 --> 01:42:40,079
and a Kogy whoever rotate to the to the to

2194
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:40,800
the paint.

2195
01:42:41,159 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 3: That way, Harper can't get a free run at the paint.

2196
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:46,800
I mean, little dude, the ring he was, he was

2197
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,439
looking like a season vex in the fourth quarter. Get

2198
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:54,279
to repeat it lay up after layup, like, come on, now,

2199
01:42:54,399 --> 01:42:55,600
we gotta do better.

2200
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 5: As a team.

2201
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 7: I have a lost pay.

2202
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna lose pate.

2203
01:43:00,279 --> 01:43:03,159
Speaker 7: Just we need to play, like he may say, stay consistent.

2204
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,319
We need to play at one way the whole time.

2205
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:09,239
Whether your shots are follering or not, you still need

2206
01:43:09,359 --> 01:43:11,800
to get back and hustle. And it was pretty clear

2207
01:43:12,319 --> 01:43:16,000
that Alfie like he when he wouldn't making shots, he

2208
01:43:16,159 --> 01:43:19,960
wasn't getting back like simple as that kinter front running

2209
01:43:20,079 --> 01:43:22,520
like you said, he's spending all he got winby on

2210
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,800
the floor. You're doing what you're doing, reverse dugs, you

2211
01:43:26,159 --> 01:43:30,279
puffing your chests out. We need that same energy all game,

2212
01:43:30,359 --> 01:43:33,079
whether you're making a shot or missing the shot. Your

2213
01:43:33,199 --> 01:43:35,880
job is to play with the same effort. So yeah,

2214
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:39,840
we couldn't get nothing going. But our effort lacked in

2215
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,640
that fourth quarter. And it's gotta start with the married people.

2216
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:46,960
If this is when, if this is Alpi and supposedly

2217
01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:51,760
kd T Alpi, you gotta go, bro you gotta go.

2218
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:56,079
Speaker 2: All right, all right, thanks all for y'all, man, Thank

2219
01:43:56,119 --> 01:44:01,560
you Broder, I appreciate it. Yeah, look, everybody, there's a

2220
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:04,319
lot of blame to go around. In that fourth quarter.

2221
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:07,159
Nobody was good. I mean, the offense is so bad.

2222
01:44:07,199 --> 01:44:09,119
You want Kevin Durant to get more than four shots.

2223
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,079
He was only one of four. A men Thompson one

2224
01:44:12,119 --> 01:44:14,279
of seven, like he was trying to get up some shots,

2225
01:44:14,399 --> 01:44:17,279
but they were going with the five on one defense,

2226
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:21,680
as in the center on the point guard and sagging

2227
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,239
him way off and then Daringham like a men Thompson.

2228
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:25,760
I think the one bucket he scored, I think it

2229
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,520
was over Luke Cornett, So I don't think he scored

2230
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,359
on Wimby that whole fourth quarter where Wimby was guarding

2231
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:37,359
him a lot, and it just they will completely out

2232
01:44:37,399 --> 01:44:42,960
of sorts. And Amen Thompson talked about it, and there

2233
01:44:43,079 --> 01:44:45,000
was an article written about it. I'm sorry, I don't

2234
01:44:45,079 --> 01:44:47,159
know there was a new beat reporter for the Chronicle

2235
01:44:47,399 --> 01:44:51,039
for the Houston Rockets. I'll try to find him. He

2236
01:44:51,039 --> 01:44:52,640
wrote an article on it, and I intend to read it.

2237
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,439
And I don't normally do this for regular season games.

2238
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,159
I normally only do this for playoffs. I go to

2239
01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:00,800
the games when I'm working pre imposed home games for

2240
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,079
the most part, and I was there last night and

2241
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:05,520
it's great. I encourage all of y'all to go to

2242
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:07,359
the Toyota Center. You can see so much more. You

2243
01:45:07,399 --> 01:45:09,680
could see Wemby in his frustration, but you could see

2244
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:11,359
that he was kind of resolute, like he wasn't going

2245
01:45:11,399 --> 01:45:13,079
to let it keep him down. He was going to

2246
01:45:13,159 --> 01:45:15,199
keep trying and keep battling and keep getting back up.

2247
01:45:15,239 --> 01:45:17,720
And then he had a great fourth quarter unfortunately for

2248
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,000
us here in Houston, and you could see the more

2249
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,720
pensiveness and tentative actions from the Rockets in that fourth

2250
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:30,560
quarter when the defense really changed them up. So I'm

2251
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:31,920
going to go back and I'm going to watch this

2252
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:36,079
game tonight again before the before watching the game against

2253
01:45:36,079 --> 01:45:37,800
the Hawks. That's how interested I am to kind of

2254
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,920
see how this played out and kind of get a

2255
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:41,279
little bit more on it because I was at the game.

2256
01:45:41,319 --> 01:45:43,199
You can't pause, you can't rewind. There are certain things

2257
01:45:43,239 --> 01:45:45,239
you catch in the arena that you can't catch at home,

2258
01:45:45,279 --> 01:45:45,920
and vice versa.

2259
01:45:46,039 --> 01:45:47,720
Speaker 4: So I'm just intrigued.

2260
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 5: Man.

2261
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 9: It was so.

2262
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:54,640
Speaker 2: Interesting to see how the Rockets could not put the

2263
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:55,720
puzzle pieces together.

2264
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 4: It was like a riddle they could not solve, Like

2265
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:59,840
Wemby's hanging way back in the paint and now he's

2266
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:01,760
he and off in onto Shingoon and Kevin Durant like,

2267
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:02,920
what do we do? We can't do anything?

2268
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:06,399
Speaker 2: So ye had he made Doka speaking after the game

2269
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:10,039
about some possible solutions, I mean Thompson as well, but

2270
01:46:11,079 --> 01:46:17,560
they were they were just puzzled, bewildered, flummixed, whatever you

2271
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,880
want to say. It just wasn't great for the Rockets

2272
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,840
there in that fourth quarter, and it was not fun

2273
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:24,680
to see. But yeah, angles to cover on that, as

2274
01:46:25,239 --> 01:46:27,640
Broderick mentioned, we could talk about Alpi, we can talk

2275
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:29,159
about the men, we can talk Abou Durant, we could

2276
01:46:29,159 --> 01:46:30,960
talk about the defense. It wasn't up to par last

2277
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,119
night for the Rockets, just one game out of eighty two.

2278
01:46:36,039 --> 01:46:39,039
But these are measuring stick games. It was important for

2279
01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:40,920
the Western Conference, so to drop that one with that

2280
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,960
loss in the fourth quarter, certainly not the way we

2281
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:47,520
wanted it to go. All right, quick break here on

2282
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,159
the Rockets was gonna say, Rockets wrap, I'm such a

2283
01:46:50,279 --> 01:46:53,479
Rockets mode. How the bad Thomas show with Ross here

2284
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,800
on Sports Talk seven ninety all. They're putting highlights on

2285
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,880
ESPN News right now. Men Thompson, by the way, that

2286
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,920
game got ru his four or ruined what was a

2287
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:02,840
great performance where he was flying all over the place.

2288
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,880
They're playing all these amendtoms and highlights, throwing and gliding

2289
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,239
and dunking the ball down. Anyways, we'll talk about that.

2290
01:47:08,279 --> 01:47:09,760
We can get anything you guys wanted to. I want

2291
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:12,000
to get to those you on hold. I promise we'll

2292
01:47:12,039 --> 01:47:13,640
get to you next as well. It is the Matt

2293
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:16,560
Thomas Show with Ross without Matt Thomas. Seven one three

2294
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,560
two one two five seven ninety is the phone number

2295
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:21,800
if you'd like to get in. Seven one three two

2296
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:30,159
one two five seven ninety twelve thirty six the PM

2297
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:32,119
here on Sports Talk seven night of The Matt Thomas

2298
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:36,199
Show with Ross with you until two pm. Coming up

2299
01:47:36,199 --> 01:47:38,119
in the one o'clock hour. If you missed our conversation

2300
01:47:38,239 --> 01:47:41,039
with Joel Corey, it was quite a while ago. It

2301
01:47:41,119 --> 01:47:44,359
is a four hour show, great stuff with him talking

2302
01:47:44,399 --> 01:47:48,640
about c J. Stroud's possible contract options, Will Anderson paying him?

2303
01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:52,039
Will he try to reset the market at Edge Rusher

2304
01:47:52,119 --> 01:47:55,159
because Michael Parsons' deal was such a huge leap up

2305
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,119
Will it'd be more like an Aiden Hutchinson deal. Those

2306
01:47:58,199 --> 01:48:00,399
kind of things, and the ins and out of where

2307
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,479
the Texans go from here with fifth year options for

2308
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,319
their number two and number three picks that'll be coming

2309
01:48:06,399 --> 01:48:09,279
up in the one o'clock hour, and in the meantime

2310
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,640
phone lines are open. I'm flying solo right now, so

2311
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,279
you guys want to get in the floor will be

2312
01:48:14,359 --> 01:48:15,479
yours for a couple of minutes.

2313
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,319
Speaker 5: It'll be my co host for a couple of minutes.

2314
01:48:17,359 --> 01:48:21,279
Speaker 2: Instead of one three two one two five seven ninety

2315
01:48:21,319 --> 01:48:23,800
seven to one three two one two five seven ninety

2316
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,119
We've had some fun stuff. We're talking about the Astros

2317
01:48:26,319 --> 01:48:32,720
in the projected lineup for the Astros one point zero

2318
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:36,279
from Chandler Rome of the Athletic No ESOC Paratus in

2319
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:41,920
the opening day lineup as predicted by I believe Matt

2320
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:44,039
Thomas and I were arguing about this. I just don't

2321
01:48:44,039 --> 01:48:46,880
know how you keep esk Estock's Paradis out of the lineup.

2322
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:52,359
But I understand Christian Walker better defensive option, but uh,

2323
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,439
there's a logjam right now in the infield and long

2324
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,640
term it just seems like a very difficult situation for

2325
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:02,399
the Astros to try to figure out, even channeler Rome

2326
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:06,960
calling it untenable or saying it seems untenable, all right,

2327
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:10,319
seven one, three, two, one, two, five seven ninety is

2328
01:49:10,399 --> 01:49:13,039
the phone number? Biscuit holding longest?

2329
01:49:13,359 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 4: Is next up? What's a biscuit?

2330
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 8: It was a ross hey man? Before I get to

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01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,800
my rockets. Man, when you talk to that guy again

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01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:27,359
about cj UH and the extension or whatever, ask him

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01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,079
what would be the difference, Like how much would they

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01:49:30,199 --> 01:49:33,039
say by extending him early or how much could it

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01:49:33,159 --> 01:49:35,119
cost them if CV had a good year and they

2337
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:38,159
didn't extending him late, Because I know, like with the

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01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:40,680
Cowboys situation, they didn't want to give that money and

2339
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,199
then that go out and have a great year. Now

2340
01:49:43,279 --> 01:49:46,079
you really got to pay them. So what's the difference

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01:49:46,119 --> 01:49:48,000
would it be. I'd be curious to see what thing

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01:49:48,199 --> 01:49:49,760
was and if it was not much, then it's I

2343
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:53,279
guess it's worth the gamble. The second thing I would say, uh,

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01:49:54,279 --> 01:49:58,199
getting to a Johnson and your news of the day,

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01:49:58,199 --> 01:49:59,720
I don't hear nothing about the cougars man.

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01:50:00,079 --> 01:50:01,119
Speaker 3: Cougar has got a big road.

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01:50:01,159 --> 01:50:07,239
Speaker 8: When last night they b TCU on the road?

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01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:09,399
Speaker 4: What's the teacher you ranked?

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01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 8: I don't know what they're ranked, but it was a

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01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:15,920
win they you know, it's it's a quality win on

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01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,960
the road. Twelve.

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01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:19,279
Speaker 7: Good Win.

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01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:22,119
Speaker 4: All right, congratulations to the Cougars.

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01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,319
Speaker 8: There you go, there you go. Now to the Rockets

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01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,680
and Ross, you can help me with this man. What

2356
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,640
happened was that Wendy was playing on one man's own

2357
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:37,359
right now. They rules in the NBA to to you know,

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01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:42,079
combat that, right, but Thompson, from my you know it's perfected.

2359
01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:44,760
I think Thompson would have to be above the three

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01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:48,000
point line. I mean above the free throw line, outside

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01:50:48,039 --> 01:50:51,000
the three point line to get Wemby out of the paint.

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01:50:51,319 --> 01:50:53,800
Because what happened was last night they turned the Rockets

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01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,720
into a jump shooting team. They're like, winmy gonna be

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01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,159
in the faint. Were cutting everything off the paint. We're

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01:50:59,159 --> 01:51:01,720
gonna force ut. We crowd all the shooters because if

2366
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:03,960
you get biased, we got big boy back there waiting

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01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,800
on you. Now, this is the thing Ross and House

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01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:10,640
telling him earlier, Thompson has got to start and I

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01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:12,840
don't even have to be a three pointer. He has

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01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,399
got to start hitting some jump shots. Everything can't be

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01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:20,039
a layup. Everything can't be going to the hole. Wendy

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01:51:20,079 --> 01:51:22,479
wants Day was there in the shoot He let the

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01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:26,800
free throw line by hisself. You gotta shoot that at

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01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,920
least become a threat. If you don't do it, they

2375
01:51:30,039 --> 01:51:32,079
just gonna continue to pack the pain. And it's gonna

2376
01:51:32,159 --> 01:51:35,279
force sing Gloom to not be in a good situation

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01:51:35,399 --> 01:51:38,239
because he I think he wasn't worried about castle. He's

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01:51:38,279 --> 01:51:40,880
worried about the man standing behind the castle. You know

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01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,079
what I'm saying. And that's what the issue is. You

2380
01:51:43,159 --> 01:51:46,079
know you you got and then even Duran Wen being

2381
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:48,119
labor to come off people and he blocked Duran shot

2382
01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:51,640
on want a men range shot, So you Thompson has

2383
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,119
got to start shooting some jumpers.

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01:51:53,199 --> 01:51:53,359
Speaker 4: Man.

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01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:54,640
Speaker 8: He can't just everything.

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01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 16: Can't be a layup.

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01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's easy.

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01:51:58,039 --> 01:51:59,680
Speaker 2: But you can't snap your fingers and just have him

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01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,359
be a jump shooter all of a sudden biscuit like

2390
01:52:01,399 --> 01:52:02,319
he's not good at it.

2391
01:52:03,279 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 8: Well that's something he got to work on, man.

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01:52:05,039 --> 01:52:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're to work on it. He works on it.

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01:52:07,039 --> 01:52:09,880
But he can get him up all he wants.

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01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:12,119
Speaker 2: If they're not going in in an NBA game, then

2395
01:52:12,319 --> 01:52:15,439
he's gonna be sitting down. But I guess if you

2396
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:17,760
said a man Thompson took ten minutes in the in

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01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:19,439
the fourth quarter and he went one for ten.

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01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna be happy with that.

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01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,000
Speaker 8: But guess what, ross, They're not gonna go in if

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01:52:24,039 --> 01:52:27,319
you don't attempt him. He was tenthing harder shots. In

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01:52:27,399 --> 01:52:30,399
my opinion, he was trying to throw over Wimby and

2402
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,159
try to get old. That's not gonna work, man. Just

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01:52:33,239 --> 01:52:36,960
take the open jumper, take the chance. Confidence.

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01:52:37,039 --> 01:52:38,640
Speaker 4: He took something. He was one of seven in the

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01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:39,199
fourth quarter.

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01:52:40,359 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 8: They floaters trying to go over. I just pull up

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01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:45,680
and shoot. I'll go back and watch it.

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01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have I am actually, actually I'm gonna go

2409
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:49,800
back and watch this game because I am intrigued. Like

2410
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:51,800
I said, I was there and I was more horrified

2411
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:55,399
than anything in that fourth quarter. So I am interested

2412
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:57,439
to go back and I'm gonna watch the whole game

2413
01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:59,119
when I get I got a little homework assignment for

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01:52:59,199 --> 01:53:00,239
myself when I get up too.

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01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 1: Well.

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01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:03,039
Speaker 2: Actually, the first I'm gonna work on the pregame I

2417
01:53:03,079 --> 01:53:04,159
have tonight at six o'clock.

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01:53:04,359 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna I'm gonna rewatch that game.

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01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 8: I am so I mean, it was at least I

2420
01:53:09,159 --> 01:53:11,920
count at least four or five times where he dribbled

2421
01:53:12,359 --> 01:53:15,560
to about like the Freako line and he looked, he hesitated,

2422
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,319
and he kept on dribbling around, and it's like, man,

2423
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,399
take that shot. Even if you take it, sat going

2424
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:23,520
in them now jabart and now maybe they can get

2425
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,439
the offensive rebound and Windy come out, you know.

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01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and another good point from Broderick that

2427
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:31,119
he made is he was in foul trouble. Get try

2428
01:53:31,159 --> 01:53:32,840
to get a foul, even if you get your shot blocked,

2429
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:34,560
try to try to figure out a way to get

2430
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:35,880
him his fifth and six fouls.

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01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 8: I think he tried that, but weinby was you know,

2432
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,239
and they wasn't calling in some of the state it

2433
01:53:42,359 --> 01:53:44,880
was some contact and it wasn't you know. But you

2434
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:46,000
gotta take the open shot.

2435
01:53:46,079 --> 01:53:46,680
Speaker 5: That's my point.

2436
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,039
Speaker 8: You gotta take that way. Your teammates can maybe get

2437
01:53:49,079 --> 01:53:51,359
the rebound. But if you don't take it and you

2438
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:53,760
dribble back out and then you force to the KD

2439
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,039
now we're in the shot clock. Were up against it,

2440
01:53:56,319 --> 01:53:58,119
and now he got to force up a shot. That's

2441
01:53:58,159 --> 01:53:59,359
what Seam I saw happen.

2442
01:54:00,119 --> 01:54:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2443
01:54:00,319 --> 01:54:02,079
Speaker 2: I just pulled up his shot chart. The one make

2444
01:54:02,079 --> 01:54:03,840
I'm pretty sure it was in the restricted area. It

2445
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:08,079
was on Luke Cornett and he only had one other

2446
01:54:08,119 --> 01:54:11,479
shot in the restricted area. Of his seven, three of

2447
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:15,520
them were well outside, very long two's, and then a

2448
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,119
couple kind of long to ten to ten to fifteen

2449
01:54:18,119 --> 01:54:21,880
footers in the paint. So yeah, not the shot chart

2450
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:23,239
you want to see for a men Thompson.

2451
01:54:23,279 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 4: This is. This is a Kevin Durant shot chart. We're okay,

2452
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,680
this is a Men Thompson shot chart. We have some issues.

2453
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, he got to get better at it. Man, at

2454
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:36,119
least gonna be, you know, all star calliber player. He

2455
01:54:36,159 --> 01:54:37,159
got to be to get open jail.

2456
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,119
Speaker 2: All right, thanks a lot, biscuit, appreciate you getting in.

2457
01:54:40,479 --> 01:54:43,399
Seven one three two one two five seven ninety. Is

2458
01:54:43,439 --> 01:54:46,079
the phone number seven one three two one two five

2459
01:54:46,199 --> 01:54:48,439
seven ninety. Yeah, he's got to get better. We can

2460
01:54:48,479 --> 01:54:50,600
say that he works on it. I mean a Men Thompson,

2461
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:56,960
he's he He certainly is someone who no one's going

2462
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:01,960
to question his work ethic. So so at some point

2463
01:55:02,039 --> 01:55:06,800
though I'm not saying he is at his ceiling, but

2464
01:55:07,039 --> 01:55:09,319
you just have to wonder. The good news is, and

2465
01:55:09,399 --> 01:55:11,640
I've talked about this earlier this year, is the free

2466
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,840
throw shooting numbers have gone way up. So that tells me, hey,

2467
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,159
if he's improving his free throw shooting. Maybe he can

2468
01:55:17,199 --> 01:55:20,039
prove improve his all around shooting, because he's gone up

2469
01:55:20,079 --> 01:55:22,399
from sixty eight percent of the free throw line to

2470
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:31,279
eighty percent. But he's shooting nineteen percent from three from

2471
01:55:31,319 --> 01:55:33,960
the left corner. He's six of thirty this year. From

2472
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:36,760
the right corner, he's three of seventeen. These are corner threes.

2473
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:38,960
Who's supposed to be the easiest threes in the league,

2474
01:55:40,439 --> 01:55:44,439
and he's well well below average from those, and mid

2475
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:47,359
range isn't great. He can knock some of them down,

2476
01:55:48,399 --> 01:55:51,119
but not enough to where it's efficient to where you

2477
01:55:51,159 --> 01:55:53,800
want them taking a shot. It's basically only a handful

2478
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,960
of players in the NBA you want taking long twos

2479
01:55:56,439 --> 01:55:58,479
because they you need to make them over fifty percent.

2480
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:03,039
Kevin Durant is one of those. I mean, Thompson is

2481
01:56:03,479 --> 01:56:07,159
not all right. Seven one three two one two five

2482
01:56:07,239 --> 01:56:08,920
seven ninety the phone number if you want to get

2483
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,600
in talking about that. Rockets lost to the San Antonio Spurs.

2484
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:15,920
We've been talking uh Astros, We've been talking Texans. We've

2485
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:17,479
been talking Bill Belichick.

2486
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:21,199
Speaker 4: He didn't make the Hall of Fame. We've been talking

2487
01:56:21,199 --> 01:56:21,840
about that too.

2488
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,039
Speaker 2: Anything y'all want to get to seven one three two

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01:56:24,119 --> 01:56:26,000
one two five seven ninety the phone number with you

2490
01:56:26,119 --> 01:56:26,840
until two o'clock.

2491
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:36,039
Speaker 4: It is the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. Continuing here

2492
01:56:36,119 --> 01:56:40,560
on The Matt Thomas Show with Ross, excellent news and

2493
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,840
Adam will be joining me at one o'clock.

2494
01:56:44,479 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 2: Which one will it be? Tune in at one to

2495
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:51,840
find out. Appreciate them helping out. We're just uh, we

2496
01:56:52,039 --> 01:56:53,039
don't don't have a.

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01:56:53,359 --> 01:56:56,319
Speaker 4: Mega robust staff here at Sports Talk seven ninety, so

2498
01:56:56,399 --> 01:56:59,600
I appreciate the help from Chris Gordian. Of course, which

2499
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,520
Adam will it be? Who's to say?

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01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 2: Coming up at one o'clock here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,880
The meantime phones are open at seven one three two

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01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:11,000
one two five seven ninety if you'd like to get

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01:57:11,039 --> 01:57:13,760
in seven one three two one two five seven ninety.

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01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,439
Thanks for you guys calling in getting involved in this hour.

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01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 4: Been talking some rockets, talking some astros, having a good time,

2506
01:57:21,439 --> 01:57:23,039
just hanging out talking some sports.

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01:57:23,359 --> 01:57:25,239
Speaker 2: It's not that serious, you know. Don't got to be

2508
01:57:25,359 --> 01:57:30,560
like these freaking weirdos on Twitter. Spurs fans a gig

2509
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,880
getting into my mensions, and I knew this was gonna happen.

2510
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:35,279
I was like, as soon as I tweet this, when

2511
01:57:35,439 --> 01:57:38,640
Victor Wenmbnyama's I gonna go off. The Rockets were going

2512
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,760
at Wimby, they were roughing them up, They're being physical

2513
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:44,840
with him. They they were keeping him from scoring in

2514
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,920
the first half. They did a good job of scoring

2515
01:57:47,039 --> 01:57:48,840
and not being afraid of him in the first half

2516
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,279
as well. And I when I'm tweeted, there are many

2517
01:57:51,319 --> 01:57:54,520
teams that are afraid of Victor Weinmbinyama. The Houston Rockets

2518
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:57,640
are not one of them. And then somehow Tarry Easton's

2519
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:00,039
mom found it and it got retweeted by hers, and

2520
01:58:00,039 --> 01:58:02,880
I was like, oh no, this is an NBA Twitter sphere.

2521
01:58:03,159 --> 01:58:05,520
I literally that happened, Johnathan, And I see you making

2522
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:09,600
a face literally when that happened. Yeah, she's very active

2523
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:11,840
on Rockets Twitter, so I don't know. Somebody must have

2524
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:13,920
retweeted it, and then she saw it, so she retweeted it.

2525
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:17,479
She doesn't follow me, So as soon as that happened,

2526
01:58:17,479 --> 01:58:19,479
I'm gonna tell you a secret, Jonathan, I literally went

2527
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,079
to go mute the conversation. I was like, oh, here

2528
01:58:22,159 --> 01:58:23,079
comes Spurs fans.

2529
01:58:23,159 --> 01:58:23,279
Speaker 12: Here.

2530
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 2: Some Raptors fan was coming after me, I'm like, Raptors fans, really, yeah,

2531
01:58:30,039 --> 01:58:33,439
what are y'all doing? Okay, hang out, go go have

2532
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,680
some poutine, okay, and work on your conversion rates with

2533
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:39,439
us dollars. We don't need you here talking to me

2534
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:43,279
about Victor wimbin Yama, a Frenchman playing in the United

2535
01:58:43,279 --> 01:58:44,479
States and you're in Canada.

2536
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:48,039
Speaker 4: All right, I don't need to hear it spurs fans.

2537
01:58:48,079 --> 01:58:50,039
Speaker 2: I get it to some degree, but some of them,

2538
01:58:50,079 --> 01:58:51,239
I was like, I was just like going to their

2539
01:58:51,319 --> 01:58:54,920
profiles and they're just finding every single Rocket's account and trolling,

2540
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:58,239
and it's like you're either sixteen years old or you're

2541
01:58:58,239 --> 01:58:59,520
a damnage human being or both.

2542
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 4: So I'm really getting better, Jonathan.

2543
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:05,279
Speaker 2: It's just ignoring the noise, muting the people, not letting

2544
01:59:05,279 --> 01:59:07,039
them affect my day to day life. So I literally

2545
01:59:07,119 --> 01:59:10,199
just muted the conversation. The old me would have even

2546
01:59:10,279 --> 01:59:12,359
went back and checked the mansions just to read them

2547
01:59:12,399 --> 01:59:13,239
and then not responded.

2548
01:59:13,239 --> 01:59:14,079
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna do that.

2549
01:59:14,159 --> 01:59:17,039
Speaker 2: I'm staying away because I'm the Rockets aren't scared of

2550
01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:20,119
Victor Wimbanyama. Did he have a good game, yes? Did

2551
01:59:20,159 --> 01:59:22,159
he go off for fifty and twenty and ten and

2552
01:59:22,239 --> 01:59:25,399
have a quadruple double. No, so let's not act like

2553
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,760
he's uh, you know, I had the game of the

2554
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:30,600
century and you're putting up like Wilt Chamberlain number graphics

2555
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:33,439
with Victor Winbnyama. Yeah, he had twenty eight sixteen five blocks.

2556
01:59:33,479 --> 01:59:34,960
He had a good game, and they came back and won.

2557
01:59:36,279 --> 01:59:41,359
But Rockets aren't afraid of Victor Winbinyama. Although maybe that

2558
01:59:41,439 --> 01:59:45,720
fourth quarter defense contradicts my previous statement. All Right, seven

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01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:48,079
one three two one two five seven ninety is the

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01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:52,199
phone number seven one three two one two five seven ninety,

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James incline. That's years of Matt Thomas's number one favorite caller.

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01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:01,479
Speaker 5: James, go ahead, Yeah, in case you missing Matt Thomas,

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02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:04,600
I thought i'd give you some Matt Thomas conversation, like

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02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,239
you're gonna I'm gonna.

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Speaker 16: Be Matt Thomas.

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02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the show. It's Rossby Real

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02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:13,640
with you and Matt. Good to have you back.

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02:00:15,319 --> 02:00:15,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 16: Do you like ketchup on your hot dog?

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02:00:17,239 --> 02:00:17,560
Speaker 5: Russy?

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02:00:18,359 --> 02:00:18,520
Speaker 7: Uh?

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02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 4: I now, Matt is actually Matt, I know you are

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02:00:22,039 --> 02:00:24,840
very anti ketchup on the hot dog. I don't normally

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02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:25,079
do it.

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02:00:25,159 --> 02:00:27,479
Speaker 2: I'm normally a mustard guy, and then maybe a little

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02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:30,600
relish if I may, perhaps a stone ground, perhaps a

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02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:32,560
spicy brown, but no ketchup.

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02:00:34,319 --> 02:00:36,199
Speaker 16: Yeah, I agree with you there, Rossia.

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02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 5: Do you like your hot dog longer than the bun?

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02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:44,319
Speaker 2: No, I'd like equal bun links. You don't want it overstuffed?

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02:00:46,199 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 16: Yeah, but no one's gonna complain about a big wiener.

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02:00:50,439 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 2: No, I feel like I would like. I just said,

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02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:54,680
you don't want it. You don't want it, you don't

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02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,479
want more, way too more. We much wiener for the bun?

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02:00:59,319 --> 02:01:03,399
Speaker 16: Okay, ross Jennifer Connelly, Jennifer Anston or Jennifer Gardner.

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Speaker 4: In their primes.

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Speaker 16: Connolly, Yeah, yeah, that's fine Connolly and Garner. I'm thinking

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02:01:15,239 --> 02:01:17,680
Jennifer Garner. I'd picked Jennifer Aniston, but she's more like

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02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:20,760
a friend to me. But anyhow, that's my inmotation of

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02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:21,479
Matt Thomas.

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02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:22,119
Speaker 5: Hope you enjoyed it.

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02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:25,039
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, James. We'll catch him at the improv.

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02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:29,840
Make sure you tip your waitresses. Wasn't it wasn't that bad.

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02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:32,279
I'm gonna give him the comp points honestly. Now he's

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02:01:32,279 --> 02:01:41,920
got me thinking Prime Anderson, Uh yeah, and friends friends,

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02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:45,079
Jennifer Anderson. Let's just say young teenage Ross was a

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02:01:45,119 --> 02:01:48,239
big fan, and we're just gonna leave that there. But

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02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:53,439
Jennifer Connolly also I think criminally underrated his history has

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02:01:53,479 --> 02:01:55,399
gone on because somebody was trying to who was trying

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02:01:55,399 --> 02:01:58,399
to say, she's not even attractive. I think it was

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02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:02,279
Madame Shmandon that she's not even good looking. Yeah, no, no, no,

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02:02:02,439 --> 02:02:07,680
Jennifer Connolly, Oh no, I don't remember. Now, somebody's tweeting

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02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:09,680
in ketchup does not belong on hot dogs. But if

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02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:12,000
you do it, it's not just whatever. I'll do it

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02:02:12,119 --> 02:02:15,079
with mustard. I won't do ketchup by myself. If you're

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02:02:15,119 --> 02:02:17,880
doing ketchup by itself on a hot dog, you're six, okay,

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02:02:18,479 --> 02:02:19,960
yeah you want me to? How about I chop it

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02:02:20,039 --> 02:02:22,680
up with a little plastic knife for you too, Little timmy,

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02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:25,960
come on that day. You're being a child. If you're

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02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:29,000
having just ketchup on a hot dog, ketchup with mustard

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02:02:29,039 --> 02:02:31,159
and with relish. I can get behind that as a

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02:02:31,239 --> 02:02:33,800
flavor mix. Also a little off the board. It's not

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02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:35,000
bad barbecue sauce.

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Speaker 4: You've ever done that? But ketchup?

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02:02:38,239 --> 02:02:38,279
Speaker 7: No?

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02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:39,119
Speaker 5: All right?

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02:02:39,199 --> 02:02:40,600
Speaker 4: Anyways, on that note.

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02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:45,359
Speaker 2: Which Adam joins the show next who did me a

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02:02:45,439 --> 02:02:47,720
favor and came in early to hang out and chop

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02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:51,079
it up and talk some sports. You will find out

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02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:54,359
next here on the Matt Thomas Show with Ross without

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02:02:54,399 --> 02:02:56,520
Matt Thomas with an Adam which one.

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02:02:56,680 --> 02:03:06,960
Speaker 4: Stay tuned. It's the Matt Thomas Show with Ross. All right,

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02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:13,720
your long anticipated wade is over. Which Adam made it

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02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:16,720
here for the fourth hour of the program of The

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02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:20,279
Man Timas Show with Ross High, I am Ross, and

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02:03:20,399 --> 02:03:23,159
here I am Adam, and here is Adam. Hey, all right,

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02:03:23,279 --> 02:03:25,359
it's Adam Wexer. There was a guy on Twitter said,

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02:03:25,359 --> 02:03:27,000
everybody knows it's gonna be wex.

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02:03:27,279 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 13: Well, like you, who is still entertaining our listeners just

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02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:34,399
after midnight. Last night's out of center for quite some time.

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02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:37,159
Speaker 4: Yes, you were, so. I do appreciate you being here.

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02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:38,640
I didn't even notice.

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02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 2: Actually, that game, it didn't slide, right because the previous

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02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:42,960
game is blow out. Okay, so no five minutes slide.

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02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:47,000
It started forty two, very emotional early game did not

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02:03:47,159 --> 02:03:50,239
have a slide. Yes, thirty point blowout. Lebron James tears

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02:03:50,279 --> 02:03:54,399
in his eyes as the Cavaliers destroyed the Los Angeles Lakers,

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02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:55,880
and yeah, we had a lot of stuff to cover.

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02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:58,520
Adam Wexer appreciate him hanging out. As I said, the

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02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:00,960
Joel Corey conversation was good. We're gonna bring that to

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02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:03,720
you folks coming up at one point thirty phone lines

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02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,840
opened for you at seven one three two one two

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02:04:07,439 --> 02:04:10,119
five seventh ninety seven to one three two one two

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02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:13,520
five seven ninety So we will start with that Rockets game.

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02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:16,439
Wex because you worked it and I was there as well.

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02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:19,119
I actually don't normally do this for playoff game, only

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02:04:19,159 --> 02:04:20,680
for playoff games that I'm actually gonna go back and

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02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:24,800
rewatch because I'm so intrigued. That defense that the Spurs

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02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:27,800
were using with Mitch Johnson was very smart. Wrinkle Amen

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02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,600
Thompson the one guarded by the five victor winbin Yama,

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02:04:30,640 --> 02:04:33,039
allowing him to sag off into the paint and the

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02:04:33,159 --> 02:04:35,880
Rockets just couldn't, and then switching actions on Kevin Duran

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02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:39,600
and albrynshing Gun. The Rockets are horrible in that fourth quarter.

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02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:42,159
All right, we gonna how concerned do we have to

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02:04:42,239 --> 02:04:44,720
be that this is some sort of key to unlocking

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02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,399
defending the Rockets offense? Of course, not everybody's got a

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02:04:47,439 --> 02:04:50,880
Victor Winmbinyama, but there is an Anthony Davis at.

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02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 4: Ched Holmgren, a Rudy Gobaert.

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02:04:53,039 --> 02:04:56,920
Speaker 2: There are some teams who can employ similar type bigs

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02:04:57,039 --> 02:04:59,800
with length against the Rockets in those situations.

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02:05:00,159 --> 02:05:02,279
Speaker 13: You're a smart person, and I hope all of your

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02:05:02,319 --> 02:05:06,600
listeners realize that because it is a two part situation.

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02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:09,760
I don't even think the three teams you mentioned with

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02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:11,600
those three players can do it. I think there's a

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02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:15,880
possibility maybe Oklahoma City could do it with Chet, but

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02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:18,239
I don't think there's any chance that the Timberwolves can

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02:05:18,239 --> 02:05:21,119
do it with Rudy. Victor's just, in my opinion, light

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02:05:21,319 --> 02:05:24,600
years better than Rudy Gobert, and if he's sagging off,

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02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:26,520
then Amn Thompson on the Rockets. We'll figure out the

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02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:28,800
best way to do it. It was very smart. It

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02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:32,079
also requires the other players to do their job. And

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02:05:32,159 --> 02:05:34,000
a lot of people were asking you last night and

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02:05:34,079 --> 02:05:37,760
then again this afternoon and questioning it all over social media. Well,

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02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:40,640
why did an Alprin Shangun just back down Castle when

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02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:44,279
he was defending him. Well, because Castle's much stronger than

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02:05:44,359 --> 02:05:47,399
Victor webbin Yama. If you hadn't noticed most players are.

2678
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:50,840
Any player who's built well that six' four and above

2679
02:05:51,399 --> 02:05:54,079
is stronger Than victor Webbin yama in terms of holding

2680
02:05:54,159 --> 02:05:56,560
your defensive. Position he's a great defensive, player but he's

2681
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:59,239
not a, strong physically strong defensive. Player why do you

2682
02:05:59,279 --> 02:06:01,439
Think alprinsching Goon ha spent the last three years pushing

2683
02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:04,520
him under the? Basket because he, can so can. Everybody

2684
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,800
so they took that defensive matchup away from The rockets

2685
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:10,960
smartly and having him sag off of Men thompson obviously

2686
02:06:11,079 --> 02:06:13,720
takes a men out of things to a certain extent

2687
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:15,640
if you're not doing anything to help, him and then

2688
02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,800
it takes anybody else who's trying to get into the

2689
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:20,319
paint out of some of the things you'd like to,

2690
02:06:20,399 --> 02:06:22,680
do Because victor's just gonna double if, Necessary he's just

2691
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:26,319
gonna drop off even further From Amen. Thompson rockets probably

2692
02:06:26,359 --> 02:06:28,920
could stand to not have a men at the three point.

2693
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:31,479
Line if the defensive players ten feet away from, you

2694
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:33,279
why don't you make it six feet away from?

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02:06:33,319 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 6: Him why don't make it five feet away from?

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02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:37,239
Speaker 13: You AND i think closing that gap to a certain

2697
02:06:37,279 --> 02:06:40,399
extent might have at least made him play more. Honestly

2698
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:44,439
and then, thirdly AND i think you'd, agree almost every

2699
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:48,960
team that has capable wing and physical, wing athletic, wings

2700
02:06:49,479 --> 02:06:51,680
they're all Denying Kevin durant the. Ball and thirty seven

2701
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:54,199
year Old Kevin durant IS i think he's getting a

2702
02:06:54,199 --> 02:06:57,479
little tired and frustrated of being tired of pushing these

2703
02:06:57,520 --> 02:06:59,960
guys off of him BECAUSE i don't think any official

2704
02:07:00,199 --> 02:07:02,720
is going to call these. Fouls probably. Shouldn't no different

2705
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,760
than what happens To Steph. Curry they just get it

2706
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:06,960
inside his jersey and they just don't get. Off that's

2707
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:10,079
their whole defensive. Philosophy if we get up in his

2708
02:07:10,239 --> 02:07:14,159
grill thirty feet from the basket and stay, there then

2709
02:07:14,199 --> 02:07:17,439
we're wish you. Luck the other Four rockets try and beat.

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02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:20,600
Speaker 2: Us, yeah THAT'S i, mean that's what When Kevin durant

2711
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:23,159
was not wearing A Houston rocket's, Uniform that's What Hemye

2712
02:07:23,239 --> 02:07:24,880
dooka would do to defend. Him and that's how they

2713
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:27,039
Defend Victor. Wimenyama and those are the two GUYS i

2714
02:07:27,119 --> 02:07:29,520
believe they they have some sort of, analytics like the

2715
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:33,239
highest wrist releases in, basketball It's wimby one And durant,

2716
02:07:33,319 --> 02:07:36,640
Two so you're not going to contest their, shot so

2717
02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:39,000
you might as well get into their, body get into their,

2718
02:07:39,119 --> 02:07:42,119
chest and get physical with. Him AND i, think do

2719
02:07:42,239 --> 02:07:44,920
you feel Like Kevin durant is is there some wearing

2720
02:07:45,119 --> 02:07:48,279
down because he's still very. Efficient the scoring numbers are,

2721
02:07:48,359 --> 02:07:51,319
there but just as you, mentioned kind of laboring around the,

2722
02:07:51,399 --> 02:07:55,520
court you're seeing some. Frustration it's not easy for him

2723
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:58,039
to score like it was younger in his. Career he's getting,

2724
02:07:58,079 --> 02:08:00,880
there and thankfully he's one of the shooters to ever

2725
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,399
walk the, planet so he can still knock down those

2726
02:08:03,439 --> 02:08:05,720
shots even with guys draped all over. Him but it

2727
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:09,680
just it doesn't seem maybe even as easy as it

2728
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:10,560
was earlier.

2729
02:08:10,279 --> 02:08:11,600
Speaker 4: In the season for him to get his. Looks.

2730
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:14,119
Speaker 13: No in this month Of january Is you're. Right the

2731
02:08:14,199 --> 02:08:16,680
numbers are still. There he's having a great scoring. Month

2732
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:19,840
he's had last couple of. Games he had a bad

2733
02:08:19,960 --> 02:08:22,399
first half Against memphis and then came alive in the second.

2734
02:08:22,399 --> 02:08:24,319
Half last night was the opposite and was six to

2735
02:08:24,319 --> 02:08:26,640
eleven in the first, half and then he And, shanngoon

2736
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:28,640
who had identical first, half neither one of them could

2737
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,479
make a shot in the second. Half so maybe in

2738
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:34,000
terms of, THAT i think one thing that's working For

2739
02:08:34,279 --> 02:08:38,359
houston but Against kevin is he still plays, defense so

2740
02:08:38,479 --> 02:08:40,560
he doesn't take the other end of the court off

2741
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:42,680
like so many other players at this stage of their.

2742
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:45,520
Careers due he's still an awesome Called lebrono like that

2743
02:08:46,119 --> 02:08:48,319
a Lebron, well it's not. NEW i, Mean i've been

2744
02:08:48,359 --> 02:08:49,520
doing it for five years at.

2745
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:50,119
Speaker 4: Least it's.

2746
02:08:50,279 --> 02:08:55,319
Speaker 13: Unbelievable it just is magnified when he has another younger

2747
02:08:55,439 --> 02:08:57,920
player who does the same thing In. Luca for The,

2748
02:08:58,000 --> 02:08:59,520
rockets it's part of who they, are it's part of

2749
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:01,800
what they. Do last night was a little bit odd

2750
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,000
in that they Took the reason why The rockets had

2751
02:09:04,039 --> 02:09:06,239
the lead that they did is because they didn't turn

2752
02:09:06,279 --> 02:09:08,960
the ball over because The spurs were they made everything

2753
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:11,079
they shot last night from the start to the. Finish

2754
02:09:11,319 --> 02:09:13,239
rockets made their first seven. Shots oh my, god they're

2755
02:09:13,239 --> 02:09:13,640
never gonna.

2756
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:13,800
Speaker 12: Miss.

2757
02:09:14,279 --> 02:09:17,119
Speaker 13: Awesome they're up by. Four because The spurs were shooting

2758
02:09:17,159 --> 02:09:19,000
well over fifty. Percent it was just a matter of

2759
02:09:19,319 --> 02:09:22,479
The rockets weren't giving them extra possessions with bad turnovers

2760
02:09:22,720 --> 02:09:25,920
until the fourth, quarter and The rockets were doing as

2761
02:09:25,960 --> 02:09:28,239
good a job as they normally do rebounding the. Basketball

2762
02:09:28,359 --> 02:09:30,960
the number of rebounds was no problem last. Night the

2763
02:09:31,079 --> 02:09:33,600
number of offensive rebounds was no problem last.

2764
02:09:33,680 --> 02:09:34,600
Speaker 6: Night they didn't.

2765
02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:39,279
Speaker 13: Convert they had what seven more offensive rebounds than The,

2766
02:09:39,319 --> 02:09:42,039
spurs and one fewer second chance point or two fewer

2767
02:09:42,119 --> 02:09:45,239
Second it's usually it doesn't work that. Way and all

2768
02:09:45,279 --> 02:09:49,680
this discussion in minutia and really intense basketball analysis is,

2769
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:52,920
awesome but we might also acknowledge one obvious.

2770
02:09:53,039 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 6: Thing The spurs are. Good, Yes spurs have. Talent, yes

2771
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:57,720
The spurs.

2772
02:09:57,479 --> 02:10:00,319
Speaker 13: Have the best group of talent they had in like a.

2773
02:10:00,479 --> 02:10:04,680
Decade they finally started. That they spent about six years

2774
02:10:05,119 --> 02:10:09,239
in the lottery of taking just awful, players and then

2775
02:10:09,319 --> 02:10:12,439
they took Gwembin, yama and then they Took Stefan, castle

2776
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:13,439
and then they Took Dylan.

2777
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:15,279
Speaker 6: Harper hit hit.

2778
02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:19,760
Speaker 13: Hit If Dylan harper wasn't hurt And Cooper flag wasn't

2779
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:23,439
the whole offense In, Dallas Dylan harper could have easily

2780
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:26,640
been in The rookie of The year. Conversation he's, Ivy

2781
02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:29,319
he's very likely to make first Team All rookie this.

2782
02:10:29,439 --> 02:10:31,279
Speaker 6: Year that's why they're so.

2783
02:10:31,399 --> 02:10:34,319
Speaker 13: Good their veteran players are all falling into their respective,

2784
02:10:34,399 --> 02:10:38,720
roles Adding Luke cornett was, very very, smart and they're

2785
02:10:38,840 --> 02:10:40,920
eight or nine. Deep WHERE i said this last night

2786
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:43,039
on the. Broadcast they don't start their five best. Players

2787
02:10:43,359 --> 02:10:46,119
they probably start three of their five best. Players and

2788
02:10:46,199 --> 02:10:48,720
Then Kelden, Johnson Dylan, harper And Devin vessel all come

2789
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:52,079
off the bench and they dominated The rockets.

2790
02:10:52,159 --> 02:10:54,720
Speaker 2: Bench, yeah well that's the thing, too it's the. Depth

2791
02:10:54,760 --> 02:10:57,399
and then they don't Have there was Four rockets played

2792
02:10:57,439 --> 02:10:59,920
over thirty five. Minutes Zero spurs played over thirty five.

2793
02:11:00,119 --> 02:11:02,359
MINUTES i literally in the third, QUARTER i was, like, oh,

2794
02:11:02,399 --> 02:11:04,479
Wow Mitch johnson doesn't care about winning this. Game, Man

2795
02:11:04,520 --> 02:11:06,920
he's just gonna go with and to indicate. It, Wo,

2796
02:11:07,159 --> 02:11:09,119
man he doesn't. Care they're playing the long.

2797
02:11:09,159 --> 02:11:10,920
Speaker 4: Game you know that's. Smart you know they're gonna lose,

2798
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:13,680
tonight but that's really smart from The. Spurs they're in

2799
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:16,159
the two. Seed they're not worried about winning this. Game

2800
02:11:16,279 --> 02:11:19,079
and then they came back and won and Still wimby

2801
02:11:19,359 --> 02:11:22,560
didn't play thirty minutes and AS i, mentioned nobody played

2802
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:25,439
over thirty five minutes in the. Game it's, Honestly i'm

2803
02:11:25,439 --> 02:11:26,960
a little. SCARED i hate.

2804
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 2: Talking about how good The spurs are because we're In,

2805
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:32,840
Houston but as you, said they're really, good and they're really,

2806
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:35,920
deep and they're going to be, dangerous and especially, when,

2807
02:11:36,359 --> 02:11:37,760
if and when they do it in the, playoffs if

2808
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:40,720
they're Unleashing victor Wembin yama to whatever, extent they don't

2809
02:11:40,720 --> 02:11:42,119
even have to do, it because they didn't do it

2810
02:11:42,239 --> 02:11:44,520
last night on the road beating a very Good rockets

2811
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:46,640
team and he played twenty eight minutes in thirty six.

2812
02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:48,479
Speaker 13: Seconds, yeah a lot of things to look, at and

2813
02:11:48,600 --> 02:11:50,960
definitely things from this game and several of the games

2814
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:54,520
that preceded, It obviously the future Without Steven, adams Which

2815
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:57,640
emay addressed before the game a little. Bit they lose

2816
02:11:57,680 --> 02:12:00,399
at home for only the fourth time and isn't at

2817
02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:04,560
where they are at twenty eight and. Seventeen there's only

2818
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:07,640
three teams better than them in The Western. Conference there's

2819
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:10,520
only one team better than them in The Eastern. Conference

2820
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:14,720
and of those four losses they've come to those, teams

2821
02:12:15,079 --> 02:12:18,800
those exact four, teams the only four teams that have

2822
02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:21,600
a better record Than houston are the only teams that

2823
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:22,760
have won a game here At Toyota.

2824
02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:23,079
Speaker 14: Center.

2825
02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:24,439
Speaker 4: Wow WELL i didn't know.

2826
02:12:24,520 --> 02:12:24,560
Speaker 12: That.

2827
02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 4: Wow this is why we come To Adam lexer for

2828
02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:28,880
this level of. EXPERTISE i appreciate.

2829
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 2: It so, yeah, look but that's also that's the broader

2830
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:34,199
conversation we were talking. About, Okay, wimby they can't you,

2831
02:12:34,319 --> 02:12:36,319
Know wimby is maybe the only team that can be

2832
02:12:36,439 --> 02:12:39,640
as effective as they were employing this. Defense maybe other

2833
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:42,239
teams can try it won't be as. Effective but, ALSO

2834
02:12:42,479 --> 02:12:45,079
i mean we mentioned The Oklahoma City. THUNDER i don't.

2835
02:12:45,079 --> 02:12:48,439
Know The nuggets obviously can't do. That but these are

2836
02:12:48,479 --> 02:12:50,840
the teams you're worried. About you're not worried about The

2837
02:12:50,920 --> 02:12:53,079
atlanta as, well The Atlanta. Hawks you want to beat

2838
02:12:53,079 --> 02:12:55,399
them to. Night but your goal isn't to beat The

2839
02:12:55,439 --> 02:12:57,479
Atlanta hawks and The Indiana. Pacers it is to beat

2840
02:12:57,479 --> 02:13:01,000
Those San Antonio spurs and Those Oaklahoma City thunder and

2841
02:13:01,479 --> 02:13:02,520
hold The larry O'Brien.

2842
02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:05,680
Speaker 13: Trophy, yeah it's definitely a. Factor those teams aren't Beating houston.

2843
02:13:05,840 --> 02:13:09,279
Flucishly those teams are definitely outplaying The. Rockets and, again

2844
02:13:09,439 --> 02:13:11,840
everything we look at to, date you, know outside of

2845
02:13:11,880 --> 02:13:14,399
the last four or five, games is a little bit

2846
02:13:14,479 --> 02:13:17,920
irrelevant because The rockets just became a new team back

2847
02:13:17,960 --> 02:13:20,600
on the twentieth When Steven adams went. Down if there's

2848
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:22,960
if there's no move to be, made then the group

2849
02:13:23,039 --> 02:13:26,680
that you have last night the healthy, group because that's

2850
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,399
not the group you're going to have. Tonight then that's

2851
02:13:29,399 --> 02:13:31,239
what The rockets have to work. With you're gonna play

2852
02:13:31,279 --> 02:13:32,960
more small. Ball you're not gonna be as good of

2853
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:36,359
an offensive rebounding. Team you're far less likely to Give

2854
02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:39,159
Clint capella twenty to twenty five minutes a night as a,

2855
02:13:39,319 --> 02:13:41,800
given which you did With. Steven you don't do that

2856
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:44,560
With click played eight minutes in the first, half didn't

2857
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:46,039
play in the second half until garbage.

2858
02:13:46,119 --> 02:13:50,319
Speaker 4: Time so you're saying It's Jeff green. Season Jeff green's

2859
02:13:50,359 --> 02:13:51,359
gonna save The rockets.

2860
02:13:51,399 --> 02:13:55,159
Speaker 13: Season they put a team together the day they traded

2861
02:13:55,199 --> 02:13:57,600
For Kevin, durant and they have to change everything they

2862
02:13:57,640 --> 02:14:00,000
hope to do now because two of the key components

2863
02:14:00,199 --> 02:14:03,399
of that, team two very key. Pones you want to play, physical,

2864
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:07,279
tough rebounding, basketball you lost one of the most important

2865
02:14:07,279 --> 02:14:11,319
pieces to do. That you want to play, smart few turnover,

2866
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:16,000
qualities half court offense basketball Because fred's out. There that

2867
02:14:16,079 --> 02:14:18,960
obviously hasn't been the case the whole. Season so they've

2868
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:21,760
been in adapt to what we have mode the whole

2869
02:14:21,880 --> 02:14:23,239
year and there's no end in.

2870
02:14:23,359 --> 02:14:26,880
Speaker 4: Sight, yeah all right Now i'm. Depressed all, right quick.

2871
02:14:26,920 --> 02:14:29,159
Speaker 6: Break here are also twenty eight and Seventeen The.

2872
02:14:29,359 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 2: Matt Thomas show With. Ross Adam wexer is here and

2873
02:14:34,000 --> 02:14:36,239
we're talking some. Rockets we have other stuff to get.

2874
02:14:36,239 --> 02:14:39,279
To I'm curiouser's perspective on The Bill belichick. Thing we'd

2875
02:14:39,319 --> 02:14:43,119
mentioned The chandler rome. Projected he had the Projected. Rosster

2876
02:14:43,239 --> 02:14:45,840
but with the, lineup we can talk about that and

2877
02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:48,239
we'll have That Joel cory. Conversation you guys on the,

2878
02:14:48,279 --> 02:14:50,560
phone if you'd. Like it's seven one, three two one two,

2879
02:14:50,720 --> 02:14:53,399
five seven ninety with you until two. O'clock it Is

2880
02:14:53,479 --> 02:15:07,640
The Matt Thomas show With, ross one seventeen in THE

2881
02:15:07,680 --> 02:15:10,399
pm here On Sports talk seven. Audio, oh they're still

2882
02:15:10,439 --> 02:15:14,880
all over this ON Espn. News all, RIGHT i GUESS

2883
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:17,199
i can bring it up Because Chris gordy was very

2884
02:15:17,279 --> 02:15:23,119
passionate about. This my take has, been Mister, wexler That

2885
02:15:23,319 --> 02:15:28,399
Bill belichick is A hall Of Famer Bill. Belichick IF

2886
02:15:28,479 --> 02:15:31,159
i were a voter for The Pro Football hall Of,

2887
02:15:31,239 --> 02:15:34,319
fame would have gotten my vote for The hall Of.

2888
02:15:34,439 --> 02:15:38,079
Fame but also literally you can check on My twitter

2889
02:15:38,199 --> 02:15:42,279
at SPORTS. RV i went and put In google what

2890
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:47,159
is the biggest scandal IN nfl? History GOOGLE ai Said.

2891
02:15:47,399 --> 02:15:51,760
Spygate the biggest scandal IN nfl history is generally considered

2892
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:53,960
to be the two thousand and Seven spygate, scandal where

2893
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:56,600
The New England patriots were caught illegally filming The New

2894
02:15:56,680 --> 02:16:00,560
York jets defensive. Signals it resulted in unprecedented fines For

2895
02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:03,720
Bill belichick five hundred thousand dollars and the team two

2896
02:16:03,800 --> 02:16:06,439
hundred and fifty thousand, dollars plus the loss of a

2897
02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:07,920
first round draft.

2898
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 4: Pick so if you were at.

2899
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:13,600
Speaker 2: The helm and involved in the what is Arguably i'm

2900
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:16,560
gonna go With Aaron hernandez killing a guy or multiple

2901
02:16:16,600 --> 02:16:21,199
people as like a bigger, scandal or maybe EVEN i don't,

2902
02:16:21,279 --> 02:16:24,760
Know Michael vick electrocuting and killing, dogs BECAUSE i, mean

2903
02:16:24,880 --> 02:16:29,039
the literal death of living beings was meeted out in

2904
02:16:29,079 --> 02:16:32,479
those situations rather than a guy flipping on a video.

2905
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:36,639
Camera but at the very least thought of as one

2906
02:16:36,639 --> 02:16:38,079
of the biggest scandals IN nfl.

2907
02:16:38,239 --> 02:16:41,799
Speaker 4: History so if he's gonna have to hold out a

2908
02:16:41,879 --> 02:16:43,360
year and he's still gonna get into The hall Of,

2909
02:16:43,479 --> 02:16:46,239
fame what's the big? Deal? Not what's the big? Deal

2910
02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:48,200
but it's gonna be everybody's gonna be. Fine we have

2911
02:16:48,280 --> 02:16:49,319
to get all up in arms about.

2912
02:16:49,360 --> 02:16:52,959
Speaker 6: This, yeah there's so many different arguments to. Make will

2913
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:53,959
he add it? Eventually?

2914
02:16:54,079 --> 02:16:56,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, okay so he didn't get in the first, time big,

2915
02:16:56,319 --> 02:16:59,920
deal as you just made. It are there actually reasons

2916
02:17:00,079 --> 02:17:02,319
why someone could SAY i don't want to vote for

2917
02:17:02,440 --> 02:17:05,879
him and they're going to stick to those reasons every

2918
02:17:05,959 --> 02:17:08,079
year because if they're, NOT i don't really understand. It

2919
02:17:08,159 --> 02:17:10,840
but you brought up one of the reasons why could

2920
02:17:10,879 --> 02:17:13,079
have also added to Flate gate to, It and so

2921
02:17:13,159 --> 02:17:14,959
there's some items. There if you really want to make

2922
02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:19,280
a case that this head, coach despite his accompliment, ACCOMPLISHMENTS

2923
02:17:19,639 --> 02:17:21,159
i don't think he deserves My hall Of fame.

2924
02:17:21,239 --> 02:17:21,479
Speaker 5: Vote.

2925
02:17:21,479 --> 02:17:24,799
Speaker 13: Period, okay we'll hear. THAT i think it's pretty tough

2926
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:28,680
to make that argument considering what reality, is and then

2927
02:17:29,559 --> 02:17:31,879
the manner in which they put these people. In, well

2928
02:17:32,159 --> 02:17:34,840
they've changed the voting process, Again they've changed the voting. Pool,

2929
02:17:34,879 --> 02:17:39,760
again they've lumped all these people. Together there's senior committee football,

2930
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:42,120
players three of them this go around With Roger Craig

2931
02:17:42,319 --> 02:17:47,520
yes And Ken anderson And Elsie, greenwood and then there's a,

2932
02:17:47,680 --> 02:17:50,879
coach and then there's also a. Contributor and you're asked

2933
02:17:50,920 --> 02:17:54,040
to put all these different types of whatever you want

2934
02:17:54,079 --> 02:17:56,000
to call them into your only. Vote and you can

2935
02:17:56,079 --> 02:17:58,280
only vote for three because three can get. In all

2936
02:17:58,360 --> 02:18:00,239
five can't get and you can't just say does he

2937
02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:02,760
belonging or not because once you say he's, in and he's,

2938
02:18:02,799 --> 02:18:04,159
in and he's. In, well now the other two it

2939
02:18:04,200 --> 02:18:06,959
doesn't even. Matter they can't get. In you can't vote

2940
02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:09,399
for them because we limit how many you can vote.

2941
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:11,440
For SO i think there are a bunch of different

2942
02:18:11,520 --> 02:18:14,239
arguments to, make AND i think they all still are.

2943
02:18:14,360 --> 02:18:18,440
HOLLOW i have five names in front of. Me i'm

2944
02:18:18,520 --> 02:18:21,200
going to vote for the people in order that are

2945
02:18:21,319 --> 02:18:23,159
most deserving of The hall Of. Fame and maybe some

2946
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:25,479
of them on my list aren't, deserving SO i don't

2947
02:18:25,479 --> 02:18:28,079
have to worry about. Them the most deserving name on the,

2948
02:18:28,159 --> 02:18:31,600
list in my, opinion Is. Belichick of these FIVE i

2949
02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:34,399
have to look, at SO i don't really think it's so.

2950
02:18:34,479 --> 02:18:36,959
Speaker 2: Difficult, yeah how many sacks Of Bill belichick have, though

2951
02:18:37,639 --> 02:18:40,440
as opposed To Elsie, greenwood wex come, on that's.

2952
02:18:40,440 --> 02:18:42,719
Speaker 6: You, know that was a huge argument that many of

2953
02:18:42,760 --> 02:18:43,360
these voters.

2954
02:18:43,399 --> 02:18:44,879
Speaker 4: MADE i lean to the.

2955
02:18:45,079 --> 02:18:49,280
Speaker 13: Players, Now Elsie, greenwood let's take him for, example since

2956
02:18:49,319 --> 02:18:51,399
everybody in here In houston should hate, him even though

2957
02:18:51,440 --> 02:18:54,280
he's a nice, guy played for The, steelers part of

2958
02:18:54,360 --> 02:18:57,639
the most unbelievable collection of talent defensively THE afc maybe

2959
02:18:57,719 --> 02:19:00,520
has ever, seen and won a lot of foot games

2960
02:19:00,559 --> 02:19:03,520
and is A Super bowl, champion is an elite, player

2961
02:19:04,520 --> 02:19:06,680
and he seems like he's just in a group of

2962
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:09,559
a bunch of other elite, players which we always, see

2963
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:11,000
which is one reason why he didn't get into The

2964
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:13,959
hall Of. Fame what is perceived as a more conventional,

2965
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:17,479
Way belichick's not in a group of. Anybody there's nobody

2966
02:19:17,559 --> 02:19:21,280
in his. Group there's him and there's everybody. Else Elsie,

2967
02:19:21,319 --> 02:19:24,000
Greenwood Roger Craig Ken anderson are in a group of

2968
02:19:24,159 --> 02:19:26,799
other players that did exactly what they. Did If Elsie

2969
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:31,000
greenwood gets, in there are ten edge rushers better than.

2970
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:35,120
Him If Ken anderson gets, in there are forty quarterbacks

2971
02:19:35,280 --> 02:19:38,040
better than him in the. Hall If Bill belichick gets,

2972
02:19:38,079 --> 02:19:39,440
in there's no coaches better than.

2973
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:43,559
Speaker 2: Him, yeah LIKE i, said he has my. VOTE i

2974
02:19:44,000 --> 02:19:47,040
just the outrage AND i would continue to vote for.

2975
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:51,360
Him or BUT i understand where there are people who

2976
02:19:51,559 --> 02:19:54,440
there was the sentiment of as you, said there Was,

2977
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:57,440
spygate then there was Deflake gate as, well WHICH i

2978
02:19:57,479 --> 02:19:59,200
don't know if that was More Tom brady or, WHOEVER

2979
02:19:59,319 --> 02:20:01,159
i don't. Know so is he gonna be held out

2980
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:01,319
for a.

2981
02:20:01,440 --> 02:20:03,920
Speaker 13: YEAR i Think bill was down the hall saying or

2982
02:20:04,079 --> 02:20:06,879
having someone go down the hall and, say this is

2983
02:20:06,920 --> 02:20:08,319
A i don't want to know about this.

2984
02:20:08,479 --> 02:20:12,280
Speaker 2: Situation, PROBABLY i, mean, okay, yeah he deflated the ball

2985
02:20:12,319 --> 02:20:13,120
a little bit to get a better.

2986
02:20:13,200 --> 02:20:15,959
Speaker 4: GRIP i, mean can't let's move. On that's WHAT i.

2987
02:20:16,040 --> 02:20:17,879
Speaker 6: Mean this a performance, enhancer?

2988
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:18,120
Speaker 8: Right?

2989
02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:23,440
Speaker 4: Yeah have you not made that baseball? Argument like we heard? That?

2990
02:20:23,799 --> 02:20:24,360
Yeah ACTUALLY i.

2991
02:20:24,399 --> 02:20:26,000
Speaker 13: Thought it was what do we want from our baseball?

2992
02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:27,920
Players the best performance?

2993
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:30,239
Speaker 4: Possible that's, true that's what we, want, right you know

2994
02:20:30,319 --> 02:20:32,879
what we should do a full steroid. LEAGUE i like,

2995
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:34,319
that and you do the ball.

2996
02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:36,719
Speaker 2: Whatever you but, YEAH i mean To jonathan was bringing

2997
02:20:36,760 --> 02:20:39,120
this up earlier when we were talking about. It, if,

2998
02:20:39,239 --> 02:20:40,959
yeah If Barry bonds is out of The hall Of

2999
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:43,920
fame for, Life Roger clems is out of The hall

3000
02:20:43,920 --> 02:20:47,639
Of fame for, life And Bill belichick.

3001
02:20:47,159 --> 02:20:49,120
Speaker 4: Has to wait a. Year he can go to kan

3002
02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:51,280
koumb With Jordan. Hudson he's gonna have a good. Time

3003
02:20:51,440 --> 02:20:53,760
he can go and do some more recruiting form Near North.

3004
02:20:53,799 --> 02:20:56,120
Carolina he's gonna Be, okay he's got my. VOTE i

3005
02:20:56,200 --> 02:20:58,639
agree with. You he's the greatest football coach of all

3006
02:20:58,760 --> 02:21:00,879
TIME nfl and he should be.

3007
02:21:00,959 --> 02:21:05,200
Speaker 2: In but there also was not, spygate the. Flakegate The

3008
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:08,639
bengals accused him of using videotaping in twenty, nineteen The

3009
02:21:08,680 --> 02:21:12,079
broncos accused him in twenty ten of videotaping like he

3010
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:14,719
also wasn't just a one oh if we flipped the

3011
02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:17,520
cameras on an accident this one, time it was a,

3012
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:18,079
big major.

3013
02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:20,879
Speaker 4: Scandal SO i ain't crying For Bill. Belichick as the

3014
02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:21,639
Way i'm putting.

3015
02:21:21,399 --> 02:21:23,440
Speaker 13: It, yeah that every conversation we've had about it on

3016
02:21:23,479 --> 02:21:25,799
the eight team at least has included, That, well it's

3017
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:27,760
not LIKE i feel sorry for, Him like everyone that

3018
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:31,200
has all this outrage is not. Him he hadn't said

3019
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:33,559
one word about. It nobody from his. Camp if there

3020
02:21:33,639 --> 02:21:35,959
is one who has said anything about, it it's everybody

3021
02:21:35,959 --> 02:21:38,360
else that's up in. Arms but it is every possible

3022
02:21:38,399 --> 02:21:41,239
group of. People there's media up in, arms there's players

3023
02:21:41,319 --> 02:21:43,719
up in, arms there's former coaches up in, arms There's

3024
02:21:43,760 --> 02:21:46,719
hall of famers up in. Arms everybody seems to at

3025
02:21:46,760 --> 02:21:49,680
least be on the same. Page that's outside of this

3026
02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:52,360
group of fifty. Voters now he can just give the uh,

3027
02:21:53,840 --> 02:21:57,040
uh The isaiah. ANSWER i THOUGHT i had the criteria

3028
02:21:57,399 --> 02:21:58,760
to be, selected.

3029
02:21:58,920 --> 02:21:59,360
Speaker 9: BUT i was.

3030
02:21:59,479 --> 02:22:05,399
Speaker 13: Not So Bill pollyon Is Michael, Jordan, yes, Exactly Michael.

3031
02:22:05,479 --> 02:22:08,680
Jordan The Michael jordan of the NFL's hall Of fame

3032
02:22:08,799 --> 02:22:10,600
vote Is bill Pollyh, God.

3033
02:22:10,600 --> 02:22:14,600
Speaker 2: Now i'm really. CONFUSED i really don't three year Old Bill. Pollyan,

3034
02:22:14,680 --> 02:22:16,559
yeah what is he? Doing how is he? Campaign? Well

3035
02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:19,559
how does this campaign? Start did you just call everybody?

3036
02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:21,959
Individually is he on the horn With john McLean saying

3037
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:22,760
don't vote For Bill?

3038
02:22:22,840 --> 02:22:26,040
Speaker 13: Belichick and aren't these, voters Especially john McClain and so

3039
02:22:26,159 --> 02:22:28,479
many voters who are like. Him they've covered this league for.

3040
02:22:28,719 --> 02:22:32,399
Decades they have their own. MINDS i know this is

3041
02:22:32,479 --> 02:22:35,559
a big lobbying. Effort, yeah you're lobbying for this, player

3042
02:22:35,559 --> 02:22:37,639
and you're giving people something else to think. ABOUT i

3043
02:22:38,159 --> 02:22:40,159
want people to make up their own. Mind i'm all

3044
02:22:40,239 --> 02:22:45,000
for gathering, information But Bill pollian was able to get

3045
02:22:45,200 --> 02:22:48,559
that many. People we're actually crediting, Him, yeah for making

3046
02:22:48,600 --> 02:22:50,760
people not vote For, Belichick like they can't think for.

3047
02:22:50,879 --> 02:22:53,559
Themselves they're taking his word for. It they're going with

3048
02:22:53,680 --> 02:22:55,719
what he. SAYS i find that a little hard to.

3049
02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:59,159
Speaker 2: Believe, well he was a great general manager who Had

3050
02:22:59,319 --> 02:23:02,440
Peyton manning for onto his, lap, yes and walking that

3051
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:04,680
he was up against The patriots teams.

3052
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:06,520
Speaker 13: All these, years and why he may have a beef,

3053
02:23:06,719 --> 02:23:11,799
hmm that Is, yeah he has to then have us

3054
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:12,879
all believe they weren't doing.

3055
02:23:12,920 --> 02:23:15,000
Speaker 4: Anything but you can only win one Super bowl With Peyton.

3056
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:15,559
Manning come, on.

3057
02:23:15,719 --> 02:23:19,520
Speaker 13: Man Jimmy johnson And Bill kawer And bill didn't do this,

3058
02:23:19,639 --> 02:23:21,239
recently but a long time ago when he was on

3059
02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:26,559
A tv they seem to sound, like, yeah this was

3060
02:23:27,079 --> 02:23:30,760
not that. Uncommon we tried, it but we didn't really

3061
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:33,079
gain anything from it or think that it, worked so we,

3062
02:23:33,200 --> 02:23:35,959
stopped Which jimmy, said WHICH i think was basically. A,

3063
02:23:36,120 --> 02:23:38,639
WELL i don't want anybody to investigate, us So i'm.

3064
02:23:38,479 --> 02:23:40,280
Speaker 4: Just gonna tell you we didn't do.

3065
02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:42,639
Speaker 6: Anything we didn't think there was an advantage from. It

3066
02:23:42,719 --> 02:23:43,559
but just, kidding prink.

3067
02:23:43,639 --> 02:23:47,079
Speaker 13: Caller like every it's it does have some elements of The,

3068
02:23:47,159 --> 02:23:50,319
astros like we know other teams did. It why because

3069
02:23:50,920 --> 02:23:54,319
this is a competitive professional sports. League whatever advantage you

3070
02:23:54,399 --> 02:23:56,159
think you can, gain you're going to, do and you're

3071
02:23:56,200 --> 02:23:57,959
probably gonna push it all the way to the as

3072
02:23:58,079 --> 02:23:58,520
far as you.

3073
02:23:58,680 --> 02:24:02,079
Speaker 4: Can you don't believe you're gonna get. Caught, yeah weren't

3074
02:24:02,079 --> 02:24:04,719
they running like telegraph lines and nineteen ten's back in the,

3075
02:24:04,840 --> 02:24:09,520
Day like it's A brooklyn And Brad grooms are caught

3076
02:24:09,559 --> 02:24:10,239
in a scandal.

3077
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:13,040
Speaker 6: HERE i mean there was a baseball scandal in the.

3078
02:24:13,120 --> 02:24:16,360
Speaker 4: Teens, yeah there was two. Exactly literally they threw The World.

3079
02:24:16,440 --> 02:24:20,319
Series you ain't, cheating you ain't, trying all, right real, Quick,

3080
02:24:20,440 --> 02:24:21,719
keith we got like you don't want to know who

3081
02:24:21,760 --> 02:24:25,479
did get, in which is somewhat ironic because one week can. Change, Well,

3082
02:24:25,799 --> 02:24:28,159
robert you Think Bob kraft got, IN i guess he probably.

3083
02:24:27,879 --> 02:24:31,159
Speaker 13: Will make for a more fun ANGLE i would all, Right, Uh,

3084
02:24:31,360 --> 02:24:33,680
keith real, Quick, keith what's?

3085
02:24:33,760 --> 02:24:36,959
Speaker 8: Up two questions and THEN i hang up and.

3086
02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:38,159
Speaker 5: Listen number.

3087
02:24:38,200 --> 02:24:41,040
Speaker 8: ONE i know That tom was supposed to be a

3088
02:24:41,079 --> 02:24:44,200
great talent, evaluated BUT i think they made a big

3089
02:24:44,319 --> 02:24:46,000
mistake With joy And Fanny.

3090
02:24:46,120 --> 02:24:47,040
Speaker 5: Smith he's a.

3091
02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:49,680
Speaker 8: Bust, secondly he's on a minute's.

3092
02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:50,920
Speaker 4: Restriction give him some.

3093
02:24:51,040 --> 02:24:52,520
Speaker 5: Time man's got an.

3094
02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:56,760
Speaker 8: Ankle when he gets, in he does absolutely.

3095
02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:59,239
Speaker 5: Nothing he's gonna.

3096
02:24:59,079 --> 02:25:00,079
Speaker 4: Work into a. Rhythm key.

3097
02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:03,239
Speaker 5: All, right what?

3098
02:25:03,360 --> 02:25:13,120
Speaker 4: Else that wasn't? Me my hands are, Up. Jonathan you

3099
02:25:13,159 --> 02:25:16,040
can be my, Witness. JONATHAN i didn't do connection Went.

3100
02:25:16,159 --> 02:25:19,440
SOUTH i didn't do, THAT i Promised keith BECAUSE i.

3101
02:25:19,559 --> 02:25:21,680
WAS i actually was getting out my document ready to

3102
02:25:22,360 --> 02:25:24,120
write down more of your hair brained.

3103
02:25:24,200 --> 02:25:26,719
Speaker 13: Predictions, YES i know That keith didn't realize he had

3104
02:25:26,799 --> 02:25:29,639
called Into Dorian, Finney smith's, agent so it was a

3105
02:25:29,639 --> 02:25:32,000
little bit of a block there for. HIM i, mean

3106
02:25:32,040 --> 02:25:35,280
you can't deny the actual. Resulting he's played very poorly

3107
02:25:35,360 --> 02:25:37,239
for this. Team he's out there to knock down threes

3108
02:25:37,239 --> 02:25:39,760
and defend and he's not doing any of. That it's

3109
02:25:39,920 --> 02:25:42,120
it's been difficult with his. Injury it's been difficult to

3110
02:25:42,159 --> 02:25:44,559
get into a, rhythm get regular minutes be a party off.

3111
02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:47,719
All that's, true but he, also you, know he's getting

3112
02:25:47,760 --> 02:25:50,200
wide open shots and for a good, reason three AND.

3113
02:25:50,239 --> 02:25:52,319
Speaker 2: D wing with no three and NO. D but other than,

3114
02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:54,120
that he's doing. Great All, Right we're gonna take a

3115
02:25:54,200 --> 02:25:57,559
break here on that note when we come. Back great

3116
02:25:57,600 --> 02:26:03,760
conversation With Joel, COREY Cbs SPORTS Nfl contracts And Salary Cap.

3117
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:09,239
Expert what Will Will anderson command if The texans tried

3118
02:26:09,280 --> 02:26:12,440
to extend? Him what should or could The texans?

3119
02:26:12,479 --> 02:26:12,760
Speaker 12: Do WITH.

3120
02:26:13,040 --> 02:26:15,920
Speaker 2: Cj, Stroud we'll get to that next here On Sports

3121
02:26:15,959 --> 02:26:17,559
talk seven ninety and The Matt Thomas show With.

3122
02:26:17,799 --> 02:26:20,280
Speaker 4: Ross welcome Back Matt Thomas show With.

3123
02:26:20,360 --> 02:26:22,719
Speaker 2: Ross here On Sports talk seven, Ninety Ross virial with

3124
02:26:22,840 --> 02:26:24,680
You Adam wexler hanging out as.

3125
02:26:24,799 --> 02:26:26,399
Speaker 4: Well earlier.

3126
02:26:26,440 --> 02:26:27,719
Speaker 2: TODAY i wanted to bring you guys some of this

3127
02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:30,399
conversation because it was a while ago and it was

3128
02:26:30,399 --> 02:26:34,040
a great conversation With Joel. Corey he is WITH Cbs

3129
02:26:34,120 --> 02:26:38,559
sports as THE Nfl contracts And Salary Cap, expert talking

3130
02:26:38,559 --> 02:26:40,680
about The texans in the, offseason coming up with C

3131
02:26:40,879 --> 02:26:45,000
J stroud With Will Anderson, junior starting off talking about

3132
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:49,479
exercising the fifth year option and what exactly that means

3133
02:26:49,559 --> 02:26:49,760
for The.

3134
02:26:49,840 --> 02:26:54,600
Speaker 5: Texans, yeah, well the rookie contracts are for four. Years

3135
02:26:54,840 --> 02:26:58,639
first round picks have a fifth year option after the third.

3136
02:26:59,399 --> 02:27:04,239
Season you have up Until may second to go yes

3137
02:27:04,360 --> 02:27:07,079
or no for the fifth year. Option the no brainer

3138
02:27:07,479 --> 02:27:12,079
Is Will. Anderson they will pick up the fifth year. OPTION. Cj.

3139
02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:15,840
STROUD i know the last two games were, horrendous but

3140
02:27:15,959 --> 02:27:18,600
his body of work over the three years and the

3141
02:27:18,680 --> 02:27:21,239
price of the fifth year option suggests they will pick that.

3142
02:27:21,479 --> 02:27:24,959
Up so they will not be free agents after the

3143
02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:27,920
twenty twenty sixth season if they both end up continuing

3144
02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:28,760
to play under their rookie.

3145
02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:31,120
Speaker 4: Deals all, right let's start With Will, anderson then we'll

3146
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:31,600
get to the fun.

3147
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:31,920
Speaker 5: One WITH.

3148
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:32,239
Speaker 4: Cj.

3149
02:27:32,399 --> 02:27:35,159
Speaker 2: Stroud it seems pretty. OBVIOUS i, mean first Team All,

3150
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:39,719
pro twelve sacks career. High not only that the opposite

3151
02:27:39,719 --> 02:27:42,040
of C. J, stroud and That stroud wasn't very good

3152
02:27:42,079 --> 02:27:45,520
in the. Playoffs Will anderson was completely dominant in the.

3153
02:27:45,639 --> 02:27:49,639
Playoffs so we expect some sort of mega deal to be.

3154
02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:52,040
Happening AND i had your article THAT i was reading

3155
02:27:52,079 --> 02:27:55,440
AS i, said you expect him to maybe kind of

3156
02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:58,239
in a way reset the market as far as edge,

3157
02:27:58,280 --> 02:28:00,360
rushers and then how hard are the text is gonna

3158
02:28:00,360 --> 02:28:02,280
push for trying to get something done before That may second.

3159
02:28:02,319 --> 02:28:07,000
Speaker 4: Deadline, well he's a guy.

3160
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:10,399
Speaker 5: That should be your top. Priority last year With Derek Stingley,

3161
02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:14,159
junior they got that thing done so early it was In.

3162
02:28:14,319 --> 02:28:17,760
March they hadn't even exercised the fifth year. Option so

3163
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:20,680
if I'm Will, Anderson i'm, like, hey this is the

3164
02:28:20,799 --> 02:28:26,159
president you set with All pro defensive players who are

3165
02:28:26,319 --> 02:28:29,159
first Team all pros in their third. YEAR i want

3166
02:28:29,399 --> 02:28:32,840
the same type of treatment in terms of timing and

3167
02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:37,079
what you did retive to the. Marketplace corners For stingley,

3168
02:28:37,239 --> 02:28:42,719
obviously edge rushers For anderson with. Me, so, yeah he's

3169
02:28:42,799 --> 02:28:47,280
gonna try to reset the non quarterback. MARKET i expect

3170
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:52,000
there to be some pushback from The texans given how

3171
02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:56,680
much that are escalated last. Year this time last, year

3172
02:28:56,799 --> 02:29:00,920
the highest paid edge rusher Was Nick bosa at thirty

3173
02:29:00,959 --> 02:29:04,520
four million per. Year now It's Michaeh parsons at forty

3174
02:29:04,600 --> 02:29:07,399
six and a half million per. Year, wow that's almost

3175
02:29:07,440 --> 02:29:12,559
a thirty seven percent. Increase that's practically unheard. Of so

3176
02:29:13,399 --> 02:29:15,440
they may want to slot him in kind of like

3177
02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:19,520
The texans did not The. Texans The lions did With Aiden,

3178
02:29:19,639 --> 02:29:22,959
hutchinson who came in at forty five million per, year

3179
02:29:23,440 --> 02:29:26,319
did not Top Michah, parsons and that deal was done

3180
02:29:26,319 --> 02:29:28,719
in the middle of the twenty twenty five. Season do

3181
02:29:28,799 --> 02:29:30,159
you kind of look at This joel with?

3182
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:32,559
Speaker 11: It and they Have Danil hunter still very much in

3183
02:29:32,639 --> 02:29:35,840
the middle of his prime and playing fantastic for, him

3184
02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:39,639
but obviously he's at a high dollar. Value but this

3185
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:41,840
will be basically the last year of his deal on.

3186
02:29:41,920 --> 02:29:44,399
There they added a couple of void. Years but, uh

3187
02:29:44,479 --> 02:29:46,479
do you kind of look at it as a capologist, Says,

3188
02:29:46,639 --> 02:29:50,079
okay the Will anderson big money starts up as soon

3189
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:52,920
as The Danil hunter money comes off the, books kind of.

3190
02:29:55,200 --> 02:29:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah because where you're going to structure it that the

3191
02:29:57,440 --> 02:29:59,280
cap number is not going to take a huge jump

3192
02:29:59,399 --> 02:30:02,639
for a couple of. Years But hunter's. Interesting now she

3193
02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:04,559
brought him, Up he's going to be thirty two during

3194
02:30:04,559 --> 02:30:06,600
the middle of the next. Season he's not showing any

3195
02:30:07,120 --> 02:30:09,920
signs of slowing. Down if you let him play out

3196
02:30:10,239 --> 02:30:15,479
this year's, deal then's he's. Walking because to franchise him

3197
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:17,799
in twenty twenty, seven it's got to be a little

3198
02:30:17,840 --> 02:30:19,920
over thirty seven and a half million dollars and that won't.

3199
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Happen that kind of drives our point home about how

3200
02:30:25,079 --> 02:30:28,040
this you don't want to, say they use the word,

3201
02:30:28,239 --> 02:30:31,440
waste but it was an elite all Time texans defense

3202
02:30:31,559 --> 02:30:33,479
and you just couldn't get anything out of the.

3203
02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:35,639
Speaker 4: Offense and then that leads us TO. Cj.

3204
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:38,239
Speaker 2: Stroud of course the. Headliner the offensive line was, bad

3205
02:30:38,280 --> 02:30:40,520
the running game was. Bad you Had Nico collins hurt

3206
02:30:40,559 --> 02:30:42,680
in That patriots game as, Well so it wasn't ALL.

3207
02:30:42,760 --> 02:30:43,079
Speaker 4: Cj.

3208
02:30:43,200 --> 02:30:45,840
Speaker 2: Stroud but when you turn the ball over four times

3209
02:30:45,959 --> 02:30:48,600
in the in the first half before we get cint

3210
02:30:48,680 --> 02:30:49,840
kind out of the ends and. Outs as far as

3211
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:52,559
options of, contract where do you think The texans weigh That?

3212
02:30:52,760 --> 02:30:55,600
Speaker 4: Joel as far as the body of work to.

3213
02:30:55,680 --> 02:30:59,639
Speaker 2: Where he By Mini METRIC qbr cup a quarterback, rating

3214
02:30:59,760 --> 02:31:02,920
touch down, percentage interception. Percentage in the regular, season he

3215
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:05,280
had a bit of a bounce back season from a sophomore,

3216
02:31:05,360 --> 02:31:06,920
slump but then those playoffs.

3217
02:31:07,000 --> 02:31:12,040
Speaker 5: Happened, yeah part of the problem is he had his

3218
02:31:12,280 --> 02:31:14,520
best year when he was a rookie and you were

3219
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:19,600
thinking he's on an upward trajectory and he hasn't had

3220
02:31:19,639 --> 02:31:22,440
a year like his rookie year since and then you

3221
02:31:22,719 --> 02:31:26,000
compound the problem by having back to back two of

3222
02:31:26,040 --> 02:31:29,840
the worst playoff Games i've seen for a quarterback in recent.

3223
02:31:30,280 --> 02:31:33,799
History it kind of rivaled With Sam darnold did the

3224
02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:36,280
last week of the regular season last year and the

3225
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:39,239
playoff game against The rams last, year which he's definitely

3226
02:31:39,479 --> 02:31:42,440
bounced back. From but, yeah you don't want to be

3227
02:31:43,079 --> 02:31:45,799
going into the offseason potentially trying to get a new

3228
02:31:45,879 --> 02:31:47,600
contract off of that.

3229
02:31:47,840 --> 02:31:51,440
Speaker 2: Ending, yeah so what are the options in for The

3230
02:31:51,479 --> 02:31:53,600
texas right now as far as the fifth year option

3231
02:31:53,760 --> 02:31:56,040
they can do? That do you think there is any

3232
02:31:56,120 --> 02:31:59,000
possibility they do some sort of extension where he's not

3233
02:31:59,159 --> 02:32:02,280
getting paid fifth d sixty million dollars a. Year David

3234
02:32:02,360 --> 02:32:04,399
mullagetta is his, agent and we know he's a guy

3235
02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:07,079
that's been very good at getting quarterbacks.

3236
02:32:06,600 --> 02:32:12,159
Speaker 5: Paid well basically whatever position he has. Generally but good

3237
02:32:12,239 --> 02:32:16,159
luck with that because mullagedto resented De Shaun, watson who

3238
02:32:16,280 --> 02:32:18,319
was the last time In texas did a big quarterback.

3239
02:32:18,440 --> 02:32:21,879
Deal thirty nine million per year at the time Made

3240
02:32:22,000 --> 02:32:26,040
watson the second highest paid player in THE. Nfl, Granted

3241
02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:30,479
watson was coming off a much better year twenty nineteen

3242
02:32:30,559 --> 02:32:33,200
is a third year player Than watson is. Now but

3243
02:32:33,360 --> 02:32:39,120
Nonetheless mullagetta is, thinking, hey let's look at the totality the,

3244
02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:43,399
circumstances not be prisoners of the, moment have recency. Bias

3245
02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:47,479
for my three years body of work is better Than

3246
02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:49,879
Trevor lawrence is three years when they got. Paid this

3247
02:32:49,959 --> 02:32:52,280
is What mullagatta will probably be. Thinking you're, saying if

3248
02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:56,239
the if they do talk contract extension And Trevor lawrence

3249
02:32:56,799 --> 02:33:00,360
after a third year where The jaguars imploded down the,

3250
02:33:00,399 --> 02:33:03,520
stretch missed the, playoffs he didn't play at the same

3251
02:33:03,639 --> 02:33:06,600
level he did in the second. Year he made him

3252
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:09,959
in a tie With Joe burrow as the highest paid

3253
02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:16,280
player five million per. Year then shortly Thereafter Dave mullaghetta

3254
02:33:16,760 --> 02:33:20,440
Took Jordan, love who had one good second half of

3255
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:22,719
the season his first year of a, starter played well

3256
02:33:22,760 --> 02:33:25,479
in the. Playoffs ties those two guys at fifty five

3257
02:33:25,559 --> 02:33:29,559
million per year Before Dak prescott tops. Everybody so he's

3258
02:33:29,600 --> 02:33:31,600
not gonna be looking at anything besides one of these

3259
02:33:31,639 --> 02:33:32,239
top of the market.

3260
02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:36,000
Speaker 4: Deals is the. Key joel with A.

3261
02:33:36,959 --> 02:33:40,239
Speaker 11: Cj, stroude as young as he is still, like if

3262
02:33:40,239 --> 02:33:44,120
we're talking long term contract extension is the key higher AAV,

3263
02:33:44,639 --> 02:33:47,079
at like a four year deal as opposed to a

3264
02:33:47,159 --> 02:33:49,879
five or six year. Deal Like i'm just kind of

3265
02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:52,040
looking at some of the current contracts out, there And

3266
02:33:52,159 --> 02:33:55,680
Jordan love at twenty, Five like you just mentioned fifty.

3267
02:33:55,399 --> 02:33:57,000
Speaker 4: Five million, year but four.

3268
02:33:57,120 --> 02:34:01,040
Speaker 11: YEARS i wonder you, Know, phil like more teams are

3269
02:34:01,159 --> 02:34:03,360
leaning towards that four year deal as opposed to those

3270
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:04,159
five or six year.

3271
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:08,319
Speaker 5: Deals, well typically teams want to lock up their best

3272
02:34:08,360 --> 02:34:11,360
players for as long as, possible And love was a

3273
02:34:12,639 --> 02:34:16,520
changing of the guard because you had When Trevor lawrence

3274
02:34:16,559 --> 02:34:19,120
did his, deal you were coming off a bunch of

3275
02:34:19,200 --> 02:34:23,559
five year. Deals Jalen hurts five year, Extension Lamar jackson

3276
02:34:23,760 --> 02:34:27,200
five year deal as a franchise. Player then you Had

3277
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:30,920
Joe Burrow Justin herbert got their deals done after the third,

3278
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:35,239
year both five year. Extensions so that environment was five.

3279
02:34:35,399 --> 02:34:38,120
Years so If Trevor lawrence wanted a, four all the

3280
02:34:38,239 --> 02:34:42,280
data pointed to a, five then you Had tua get

3281
02:34:42,319 --> 02:34:45,440
a four year, Deal Jared goff get a four year,

3282
02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:50,520
deal which Allowed Jordan love to go. Four so this

3283
02:34:50,760 --> 02:34:54,360
is a case If i'm The. TEXANS i would kind

3284
02:34:54,399 --> 02:34:57,040
of be looking at it from the standpoint, that, yeah

3285
02:34:57,239 --> 02:35:01,360
if we wait AND. Cj stroud has a career, year

3286
02:35:01,440 --> 02:35:05,120
yeah we're gonna pay. More But Kyler murray be my cautionary.

3287
02:35:05,200 --> 02:35:07,680
Tale his agent pushed to get a deal after three,

3288
02:35:07,760 --> 02:35:10,520
years and he's probably not gonna be with The cardinals next.

3289
02:35:10,639 --> 02:35:15,920
Year The rams had buyer's remorse With Jared goff did

3290
02:35:16,000 --> 02:35:17,760
his after three, years and he took him to A

3291
02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:20,000
Super bowl at least got them he was the quarterback

3292
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:22,879
when they were in A Super, bowl And philly cut

3293
02:35:22,959 --> 02:35:26,959
bait With Carson wentz pretty quickly after doing his rickey

3294
02:35:27,000 --> 02:35:30,760
contract after three. Years so because of how things have gone,

3295
02:35:30,840 --> 02:35:35,719
south SOMETIMES i might be inclined to. Wait anderson's my top.

3296
02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:38,799
Priority if after pay more in the long run to

3297
02:35:38,879 --> 02:35:43,120
be sure THAT cj is the, guy THEN i would

3298
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:44,239
have more peace of mind doing.

3299
02:35:44,319 --> 02:35:47,319
Speaker 11: That talking With Joel corey one of the best when

3300
02:35:47,360 --> 02:35:50,159
it comes to TALKING nfl contracts and salary cap been

3301
02:35:50,200 --> 02:35:53,799
doing a long, time of, COURSE. Cbs it is interesting,

3302
02:35:53,879 --> 02:35:56,200
Though joel the one of the big copics that came

3303
02:35:56,280 --> 02:35:59,799
up here In houston After stroud's less than stellar. Postseason,

3304
02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:03,000
okay should should we? Pivot and you look at what

3305
02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:05,319
A Sam darnold's doing right. Now obviously he was a

3306
02:36:05,719 --> 02:36:08,200
hired assassin With minnesota last year was very, good.

3307
02:36:08,079 --> 02:36:09,840
Speaker 4: And now he takes The seahawks to the Super.

3308
02:36:09,879 --> 02:36:13,600
Speaker 11: Bowl it is interesting that concept of when you have your,

3309
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:14,719
quarterback you feel, like.

3310
02:36:15,200 --> 02:36:16,920
Speaker 4: Oh maybe we gotta pay this guy just to keep

3311
02:36:17,000 --> 02:36:17,799
him because we don't like the.

3312
02:36:17,840 --> 02:36:20,799
Speaker 11: Alternative but to your, Point Kyler, murray the cautionary, TALE i,

3313
02:36:20,799 --> 02:36:23,159
Mean Trevor lawrence had the nice resurgent year this, year

3314
02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:25,360
but prior to this, YEAR i think people were, wondering

3315
02:36:25,399 --> 02:36:26,360
ass should they have paid?

3316
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:28,120
Speaker 4: Him and then A tua down In.

3317
02:36:28,159 --> 02:36:30,920
Speaker 11: Miami you look at that, situation it just Becomes, man

3318
02:36:31,280 --> 02:36:33,360
it feels like the norm now is even if you're

3319
02:36:33,719 --> 02:36:34,840
questions about this, guy.

3320
02:36:35,120 --> 02:36:38,040
Speaker 4: You pay him because you just don't. Know it's better

3321
02:36:38,079 --> 02:36:40,120
than the, alternative which is the unknown.

3322
02:36:41,200 --> 02:36:42,920
Speaker 5: You need to nail and the head fear of the

3323
02:36:43,040 --> 02:36:45,719
unknown has been driving a lot of quarterback. Decisions And

3324
02:36:45,799 --> 02:36:49,399
i'll use one going back a few years at the,

3325
02:36:49,479 --> 02:36:51,719
time eighteen million per, year believe it or, not was

3326
02:36:51,760 --> 02:36:54,200
a lot full. QUARTERBACK i forget exactly what year it,

3327
02:36:54,440 --> 02:36:58,319
was But Jake cutler got an. Extension, yeah and it's,

3328
02:36:58,440 --> 02:37:00,479
like you really want to Give Jake colin that type of,

3329
02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:05,600
money and that's what. Happened so, yeah that factors in the.

3330
02:37:05,719 --> 02:37:11,719
Equation BUT. Cj stroud's really, young so you don't there's

3331
02:37:11,760 --> 02:37:14,840
nothing that says you have to do a quarterback extension

3332
02:37:14,879 --> 02:37:19,719
at the earliest possible. Instance you can. Wait Lamar jackson

3333
02:37:19,879 --> 02:37:22,559
ended up being the rare quarterback who plays through the

3334
02:37:22,639 --> 02:37:26,959
fifth year. Option Andrew luck back when he was considered

3335
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:30,159
a franchise, quarterback didn't get a, deal which maybe the

3336
02:37:30,239 --> 02:37:32,840
highest paid player until going into the fifth year. Option

3337
02:37:33,079 --> 02:37:38,520
so you don't have to do the deal. Today you

3338
02:37:38,680 --> 02:37:43,440
can exercise some. Caution let's Say stroud is starting to

3339
02:37:43,520 --> 02:37:46,639
play on the fourth year The roocke, contract starts lighting

3340
02:37:46,719 --> 02:37:49,120
it up early in the. Year you may revisit it

3341
02:37:49,159 --> 02:37:50,639
then if you don't want to do it right, now

3342
02:37:50,639 --> 02:37:52,840
if the numbers of the day THAT i Suspect David

3343
02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:55,280
mullagatta will be asking.

3344
02:37:55,360 --> 02:37:59,440
Speaker 2: For you, know we've also seen a situation where guys

3345
02:37:59,479 --> 02:38:02,120
have gotten let Go you Mentioned Sam, DARNOLD i Mean Baker.

3346
02:38:02,200 --> 02:38:05,639
Mayfield we Have Jared goff was, traded but he wasn't

3347
02:38:05,680 --> 02:38:06,799
thought of as an elite guy.

3348
02:38:06,799 --> 02:38:09,639
Speaker 5: With people did like he was a throw, in and,

3349
02:38:09,920 --> 02:38:11,799
yeah it was just a matter of time before he

3350
02:38:11,920 --> 02:38:12,399
was done in The.

3351
02:38:12,479 --> 02:38:13,440
Speaker 4: Trent, yeah, exactly.

3352
02:38:13,520 --> 02:38:15,559
Speaker 2: Exactly so it's it's not like they thought that he

3353
02:38:15,639 --> 02:38:18,319
was gonna be, SO i, mean it's it's interesting that

3354
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:20,079
the dichotomy where you don't want to end up in

3355
02:38:20,079 --> 02:38:21,680
that situation where you cut bait WITH.

3356
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:23,360
Speaker 4: Cj stroud and he thrives somewhere.

3357
02:38:23,440 --> 02:38:27,000
Speaker 2: Else but also at the time when those guys, came

3358
02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:29,559
they weren't making sixty million, dollars so it kind of

3359
02:38:29,600 --> 02:38:31,200
makes it easier to build around that.

3360
02:38:31,319 --> 02:38:34,879
Speaker 5: Guy, yeah but you also have to think of the

3361
02:38:35,000 --> 02:38:37,559
fact that the cap has gone up since those guys,

3362
02:38:37,680 --> 02:38:42,200
signed so relative to cap. INFLATION i know the quarterback

3363
02:38:42,280 --> 02:38:46,440
market has gone, haywire but still sometimes that gets lost

3364
02:38:46,479 --> 02:38:49,120
in the. Equation you have the fifth year, option it's

3365
02:38:49,200 --> 02:38:53,520
going to be extremely reasonable costs for a starting. Quarterback

3366
02:38:54,200 --> 02:38:57,319
it's not going to be an elevated amount because That

3367
02:38:57,520 --> 02:39:01,639
Pro bowl From stroud's rookie year doesn't factor into increasing the.

3368
02:39:01,719 --> 02:39:05,319
Costs he was not an original Ballot pro, bowler so

3369
02:39:05,559 --> 02:39:08,159
it's gonna be the basically the average of the third

3370
02:39:08,239 --> 02:39:11,959
through twenty of highest paid, quarterbacks And i'm simplifying it

3371
02:39:12,040 --> 02:39:15,079
a bit for the option cost and dependent and it's

3372
02:39:15,200 --> 02:39:19,000
gonna Be the exact number depends on where the cap is,

3373
02:39:19,040 --> 02:39:21,719
set because it's express percentage of the, cap but it's

3374
02:39:21,799 --> 02:39:24,479
gonna be roughly twenty five to twenty six million For.

3375
02:39:24,600 --> 02:39:29,000
Stroud that's a reasonable number for a. Quarterback is a

3376
02:39:29,079 --> 02:39:31,000
Salary all? Right there you.

3377
02:39:31,079 --> 02:39:36,079
Speaker 2: Go Joel, COREY Cbs SPORTS Nfl contract And Salary cap,

3378
02:39:37,040 --> 02:39:40,440
analyst joining us here earlier on the. Show great conversation with,

3379
02:39:40,520 --> 02:39:42,040
him wanting to bring that to you. Guys gonna take

3380
02:39:42,040 --> 02:39:44,520
a quick break here when we come back the final

3381
02:39:44,840 --> 02:39:48,920
segment Of The Matt Thomas show With. ROSS i want

3382
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:52,840
Someone wex's reaction talking about what's going on WITH. Cj

3383
02:39:53,000 --> 02:39:56,159
stroud And Will anderson and The Houston. Texans we'll get

3384
02:39:56,200 --> 02:39:58,159
to that before we get out here on The Matt

3385
02:39:58,200 --> 02:40:04,079
Thomas show With. Ross good, gracious we are listening To

3386
02:40:04,120 --> 02:40:05,079
The Matt Thomas show With.

3387
02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:11,120
Speaker 4: Ross, Hi i'm The ross part of. That good to

3388
02:40:11,159 --> 02:40:11,360
be with.

3389
02:40:11,440 --> 02:40:14,079
Speaker 2: You Adam wexler as. Well he's neither part of any of,

3390
02:40:14,159 --> 02:40:16,079
that but he is hanging out AND i appreciate. Him

3391
02:40:16,120 --> 02:40:21,600
good conversation With Joel corey in the last. Segment SO

3392
02:40:21,760 --> 02:40:23,159
i don't know if we need to role play this

3393
02:40:23,319 --> 02:40:28,200
necessarily or anything, wex but how do you think conversations

3394
02:40:28,360 --> 02:40:31,520
because there has to be some contact Between David mulligata

3395
02:40:31,559 --> 02:40:31,920
and C.

3396
02:40:32,120 --> 02:40:33,360
Speaker 4: J stroud in this.

3397
02:40:33,520 --> 02:40:37,319
Speaker 2: Offseason joel kind of mentioned how other contracts would be

3398
02:40:37,360 --> 02:40:39,360
brought up of guys who did get paid, early to

3399
02:40:39,399 --> 02:40:43,319
Where Trevor lawrence is a good, example and, REALLY i,

3400
02:40:43,399 --> 02:40:45,440
mean is there any chance of textan to try to

3401
02:40:45,479 --> 02:40:49,360
get anything, done to try to do kind of not

3402
02:40:49,559 --> 02:40:52,399
exactly apples for, apples of, course but Paying Nico collins

3403
02:40:52,440 --> 02:40:55,719
earlier saying there's going to be a breakout year so

3404
02:40:55,840 --> 02:40:57,120
that you can kind of get in front of that

3405
02:40:57,200 --> 02:40:59,399
and win on the deal to where C. J stroud

3406
02:40:59,479 --> 02:41:01,840
does bound bounce back because we have a really bad

3407
02:41:01,879 --> 02:41:03,799
taste in our mouth from the playoff, games but he

3408
02:41:03,920 --> 02:41:06,719
wasn't that bad all season. Long to wherever he does bounce,

3409
02:41:06,760 --> 02:41:08,200
back it's gonna cost you even more in the long.

3410
02:41:08,280 --> 02:41:11,639
RUN i don't think there's any such thing for a.

3411
02:41:11,719 --> 02:41:15,239
Quarterback if he's, good you pay, him and it doesn't

3412
02:41:15,239 --> 02:41:15,920
even matter What i'm.

3413
02:41:15,920 --> 02:41:16,840
Speaker 6: Out it really.

3414
02:41:16,879 --> 02:41:18,760
Speaker 13: Doesn't he's gonna get paid a. Ton they're gonna be

3415
02:41:18,760 --> 02:41:20,680
the highest paid player on the roster by a. Lot

3416
02:41:21,159 --> 02:41:23,399
whatever the going rate, is even if it's to A

3417
02:41:23,600 --> 02:41:27,040
Trevor kyler. Whomever it's fifty, million or it's fifty, five

3418
02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:28,920
or in a year it's. SIXTY i just don't think

3419
02:41:28,959 --> 02:41:30,879
it matters at. All you're gonna pay him no matter,

3420
02:41:30,959 --> 02:41:32,760
what as long as they play. Well now they're not

3421
02:41:32,879 --> 02:41:35,280
there now, NOW i don't think there's any advantage to

3422
02:41:35,360 --> 02:41:38,120
trying to, say, well if he's good and what a

3423
02:41:38,239 --> 02:41:38,760
deal that we.

3424
02:41:38,959 --> 02:41:41,360
Speaker 6: HAVE i don't think they're looking at it that, way.

3425
02:41:41,719 --> 02:41:42,239
Speaker 4: DON'T i just.

3426
02:41:42,280 --> 02:41:46,520
Speaker 6: DON'T i think they are more concerned with the downside

3427
02:41:46,559 --> 02:41:46,959
of signing.

3428
02:41:47,040 --> 02:41:48,040
Speaker 4: Him we all know what that.

3429
02:41:48,239 --> 02:41:50,399
Speaker 13: Is you could be stuck with a quarterback and the

3430
02:41:50,520 --> 02:41:52,680
decisions that come with how much dead money can we

3431
02:41:52,760 --> 02:41:55,200
eat because we now have decided we just can't win

3432
02:41:55,280 --> 02:41:58,200
with this quarterback. Anymore and MULTIPLE i, Mean miami's, there

3433
02:41:58,399 --> 02:42:01,159
The cardinals are. There every, year probably one to two

3434
02:42:01,239 --> 02:42:04,000
teams is in that. Situation who has gone long term

3435
02:42:04,040 --> 02:42:06,200
with a quarterback WHO i think we all knew there

3436
02:42:06,239 --> 02:42:08,680
were still questions, about and there were with both of those.

3437
02:42:08,719 --> 02:42:11,520
Two now you brought Up, lawrence as Did. Joel there

3438
02:42:11,559 --> 02:42:15,120
were questions With Trevor. Lawrence probably as it looks right

3439
02:42:15,200 --> 02:42:17,360
now With Liam cohen and everybody, there it looks like

3440
02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:18,200
it's gonna work.

3441
02:42:18,280 --> 02:42:18,440
Speaker 9: Out.

3442
02:42:18,920 --> 02:42:23,479
Speaker 13: Now they've also gotten him first round Pick Brian Thomas. Junior,

3443
02:42:23,680 --> 02:42:28,600
yeah traded For Travis. Hunter they traded For Jacoby myers

3444
02:42:28,680 --> 02:42:29,399
and extended.

3445
02:42:29,479 --> 02:42:33,280
Speaker 4: Him don't sleep On britain strange now he is a

3446
02:42:33,319 --> 02:42:33,840
waiver wire.

3447
02:42:33,959 --> 02:42:36,319
Speaker 13: God on the back of his jersey it, SAYS i

3448
02:42:36,440 --> 02:42:38,920
play tight end like the other twenty five in the

3449
02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:39,600
league that are all the.

3450
02:42:39,600 --> 02:42:41,319
Speaker 4: Same, hey come, on why.

3451
02:42:41,239 --> 02:42:41,559
Speaker 11: Is he any?

3452
02:42:41,600 --> 02:42:42,000
Speaker 4: Better i'm just.

3453
02:42:42,079 --> 02:42:46,520
Speaker 2: Case they had a good running game too With Travis.

3454
02:42:46,559 --> 02:42:49,000
Speaker 4: Ateen and that's the thing. Too we're talking About Trevor.

3455
02:42:49,040 --> 02:42:51,479
Speaker 2: Lawrence oh he got all these he got all these,

3456
02:42:51,559 --> 02:42:53,920
weapons and he got an elite play, caller and then

3457
02:42:53,920 --> 02:42:55,319
they have a good running, game and all of a

3458
02:42:55,360 --> 02:42:56,040
sudden he's playing.

3459
02:42:56,120 --> 02:42:58,079
Speaker 4: Better funny how that.

3460
02:42:58,200 --> 02:43:00,760
Speaker 13: Works it is funny because The, TEXANS i think, clearly

3461
02:43:00,840 --> 02:43:02,600
have tried to do all but one of those. Things

3462
02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:06,360
they traded For Joe, mixon obviously Reup Nico. Collins they've

3463
02:43:06,479 --> 02:43:09,120
attempted to find the right play, caller but they've chosen

3464
02:43:09,200 --> 02:43:12,159
a first time play caller in both instances since. C.

3465
02:43:12,360 --> 02:43:13,200
Speaker 6: J stroud has been.

3466
02:43:13,239 --> 02:43:15,120
Speaker 13: Here now one of them is already on a second

3467
02:43:15,200 --> 02:43:20,120
try a Season miami this upcoming season For Jeff. Hackley

3468
02:43:20,280 --> 02:43:23,360
so those are the things they probably could have done

3469
02:43:23,399 --> 02:43:25,280
a better job. On but now if you, DO i

3470
02:43:25,360 --> 02:43:27,760
mean that's clearly gone and over. With they're not changing

3471
02:43:27,799 --> 02:43:30,920
ocs this. Offseason BUT i know that's a conversation we

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have all. Had could they Have should they have been

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in the mix for some of these, veteran experienced play

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callers that were on the marketplace.

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Speaker 4: This off, Season, yes they should, have even if you

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have to admit a. Mistake Nick, casserio Not Nick, kyley

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even though maybe they don't.

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Speaker 6: Think it's h but if they don't have background In New,

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england they.

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Speaker 2: Or John carroll on the resume. Either all, right wex

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appreciate you hanging. Out all, right you could hang out

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for another four. Hours he's not going, anywhere so you shouldn't.

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Either thanks, Too Chris gordy for hanging out earlier in the.

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Show thanks To Joel cory for joining us as. Well Thanks,

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Dude Jonathan allen for hanging for the duration as. Well,

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oh Even Cole thompson popped. In we have the whole

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the Mat Thomas show With.

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Speaker 4: ROSS i appreciate y'all. Listening talk to you tomorrow at.

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Speaker 2: Ten are actually coming up at six o'clock on The

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