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Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.

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Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loom, Squatching Holler's

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gotta tail. The show whispers, creep like a creature, spain

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out every shadows got a secret to grow?

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Speaker 3: Monsters rise?

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Speaker 2: Where the stories are told?

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Speaker 3: Squatching Holler?

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Speaker 2: Where the legends are born?

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Speaker 4: Are they here?

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Speaker 5: Are they gone?

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Speaker 6: Who can say?

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Speaker 4: In the hall the truth just slips?

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Speaker 7: Wait, you fool, prince fade where the creek runs them

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a lantern sways. Let the search begin, rustling leaves.

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Speaker 4: But there's no one there, is.

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Speaker 3: It the wind or the beast?

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Speaker 6: You fear every echoes, question, every Russell's a clue. Squatching

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the hollis got its eye on you. Monsters Where the

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stories are torn?

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Speaker 1: Swamps?

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Speaker 3: And how where the legends are born?

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Speaker 4: Are they?

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Speaker 1: Are they gone?

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Speaker 6: You can see the children.

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Speaker 8: And now your hosts welcome you to Squatching Holler, Roger

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Williams and Amanda Stylist. Remember this podcast can be downloaded

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everywhere great podcasts are found. And now the show.

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Speaker 3: This is Jeremiah Byron from Big for Society and you're

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listening to Squatch and Holler, So get ready because it's

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a good time. Man. I thought I needed to play that.

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You know, Jeremiah is going through a rough time, y'all,

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and he's a friend of ours, and just continue prayers

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for him and as he you know, starts his journey

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battling his cancer. So I you know, I hate to

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see I hate see anybody sick. But man, you know

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the good people that you care about, it it really

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hits home, don't It's.

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Speaker 9: It really does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and beyall, it's what a week? Oh my god.

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So first off, Amanda has had visitors at the museum

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two different times. Can you tell everybody what happened in

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the museum this week or last week?

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Speaker 10: Oh? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: So this week, I actually is today. I was supposed

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to be off but ended up having to go in

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and cover today. And Mike and Christina from a squatch

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in Florida that we interviewed a couple episodes back dropped

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in and it would just happened to be happenstance that

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I was there, So that was really awesome. I got

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to meet them in person and we you know, talked

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back and forth, showed some pictures back and forth. So

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it was a good time. Even though I was working

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and I couldn't talk to him too much. But it

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was cool still to get to see him in person

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and say, how.

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Speaker 3: Do It's always fun to meet people that you either

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watch on documentaries or interview and you know, like, what's

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weird is y'all Amanda and I have never met face

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to face.

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Speaker 10: Me you still face to face?

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Speaker 3: Never We'll we'll try to get over to the museum sometime.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, hopefully I can make it up to Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And uh Joe and Jesse.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, they were there last week. So they actually

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just posted that they got their new documentary that they

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were working on that were they were up here in

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North Georgia is coming out soon, so y'all check their

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Facebook out and they got all the links and everything

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to it there on the helmet holler.

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Speaker 3: And what's fun is you know you're you're the same

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as me. I'm sure you watch you watch these things,

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and uh, you see these people do their thing, you

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appreciate what they do, and then you meet them and

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they're just regular folks.

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Speaker 10: Really, it really is.

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Speaker 3: It's and it's just like the people in chat we've that.

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I love it. I absolutely love it and thank y'all

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for being here. I know there's a there's a lot

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of y'all here right now and the chats rocking and rolling. Uh.

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We got Bruce Brown tonight. Uh, there's we could probably

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probably do ten shows with him. I met him on

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Crypti Wrangler. They interviewed me and and Bruce just amazed me.

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I know the area he's from. I've been there many times,

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and I I when I rolled into that place with

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my job back in the day, I thought, this place

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looks boogery, you know, some of those side roads and

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a little bit just a little bit. Uh yeah, And

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then now you learn, you know, heck, you've got people

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seeing them out behind McDonald's sometimes in bigger towns that

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the woods come up to. And I had no idea.

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a meeting were in Nashville, and all the Middle Tennessee

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reps were in there and all the big big wigs.

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had sent this one guy to Dixon over just south

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the l BL Wolf Springs and all that. And I

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never had told anybody, you know, anything about it wasn't

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any of their business, and I didn't figure they'd believe it. Anyway. Well,

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he makes a comment there, like, Justin, why do you

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want to change her outs? He said, I'm scared. He

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was from Nashville. I'm scared, he said, I get on

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those back roads and I'm scared of Bigfoot's gonna step

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out in front of me or something or worse. And

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everybody starts laughing. Well, I'm not laughing. And there's another

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guy at the corner down here, not laughing, and he's

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from almost Kentucky in North Tennessee, and I kind of

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I didn't know. I kind of looked at him, and

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he wasn't laughing either, and so they were giving this

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guy hard time, and I said, hey, guys, y'all need

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to lay off of him. Well why, I said, I've

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seen one. I know they're real. He's I mean, it's

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probably not going to get you in the van, Justin,

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but you need to quit laughing at them. And so

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the other guy that the room went quiet, and you know,

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stepped up and took the heat. But they knew I

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didn't bs and when I said that, they all got

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quiet and was looking around. And years later, even though

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I'm not there, I'm still friends with a lot of people.

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That same guy that didn't laugh. He had never had

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come and told me anything. But every time I post

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something about his big foot or something like that, he

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likes it on Facebook. So I have a feeling that

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he knows something, but maybe one day like it. Yeah,

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but anyway, we've got our little oh one thing. Y'all.

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of you know my son hating, We had him on

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a couple of weeks back, and he's met this girl.

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sending me messages and I found out they got engaged live.

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embarrassing for me to watch it, but it was.

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Speaker 9: It was cute in my opinion. I thought it was adorable,

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good because you were able to catch the live reaction

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because your first like, oh crap, is something wrong because

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just blowing your phone up and you're like hang on

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a second. Then you realize what's happening and you're like,

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to them then, and it thank you very exit. I'm

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so proud for him. He's twenty nine and he's he's

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waited for the right one. I think he found her.

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thing was how I realized what was going on. He

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had talked to me a couple of weeks ago and

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where they're at, And that's when I knew right there

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on what had happened. So yeah, it was exciting. And

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so y'all, we've got Amanda's Bigfoot News. I don't know

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how far this one's is back, but let us play

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the goofy intro here and now Amanda's Bigfoot News brought

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to you by Squatch and HOLLR. I may try to

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redo that one for you. So what do you got

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for us tonight?

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Speaker 9: So? I found this article earlier today when I was

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trying to dig around and well find them to put

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on tonight's show. So let me put it up on

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screen here so everybody can look at it with me.

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Speaker 10: Here we go.

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Speaker 9: So Unfortunately, this isn't an actual photo copy of the

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actual newspaper article. This is where somebody has transcribed the article,

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which is good because I can read a little bit easier.

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so hopefully I can find this one. So anyway, the

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article is from November tenth, eighteen seventy, and this is

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out of Pennsylvania, but it's talking about the wild men

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of California. And a little bit of backstory on this one.

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of the same town in Pennsylvania, and they're talking about

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a quote unquote gorilla that's terrorizing the area, and they're

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giving it a lot of tongue in cheek and saying, oh,

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it's probably just some of the college students dressed up,

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and hey, you better watch out or he's gonna get shot.

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because it taught the excuse me, the journalist is reading

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that they actually received the following correspondence to them because

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of the articles, so I'm going to start from there

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and read it for y'all. So I saw in your

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paper a short time since, and I'm concerning the gorilla

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which is said to be seen in Crow Canyon and

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shortly after in the mountains at or Stemba Creek. You

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sneered at the idea of there being any such critters

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in those hills, and were I not better informed, I

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should sneer too, or else conclude that one of your

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recent prospecting parties had got lost in the wilderness and

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didn't have and he says enough to find their way back.

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I possibly assure you that this gorilla or wild man,

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as you choose to call it, is no myth. I

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know that it exists, and that there are at least

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two of them, having seen them both at once, not

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a year ago. Their existence has been reported at times

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from the past twenty years, and I have heard it

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said that in early days an orangutan possibly escaped from

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a ship on the southern coast. But the creature I

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have seen is not that animal. And if it is,

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where did he get his mate import her on different ships?

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hunting in the mountains about twenty miles south of here,

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and camped five or six days in one place. And

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I have, as I have done every season for the

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past fifteen years, several times I returned to my camp

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after a hunt and saw that the ashes and charred

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sticks from my fireplace had been scattered about. And old

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hunter notices such things, and very soon gets curious to

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know the cause. Although my beddings and traps and little

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stores were not disturbed, as I could see, I was

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anxious to learn how or what it was that, so

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regularly visited my camp, for clearly the half burned sticks

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and cinders could not scatter themselves about. I saw no

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tracks near the camp, as the hard ground covered with

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dried leaves would show none. So I started on a

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circle around the place, and three hundred yards off in

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damp sand, I struck the track of a man's foot,

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as I supposed bear, and of immense size. Now I

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was curious, sure, and resolved to lay for the barefooted visitor.

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but it's a good one. So I laid in position

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on the hillside about sixty or seventy feet from the

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fire and securely hid in the brush. I waited and

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watched two hours or more. I sat there and wondered

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if the owner of the feet would come again, and

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whether he imagined what an interest he had created in

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my inquiring mind, and finally, what possessed him to be

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prowling about there with no shoes on. The fireplace was

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on my right, and the spot where I saw the

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track was on my left, hit by brushes. It was

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in this direction that my attention was mostly directed, thinking

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the visitor would appear there, and besides, it was easier

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to sit and face that way. Suddenly I was startled

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by a shrill whistle, such as boys produced with two

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fingers under their tongue. And turning quickly, I exclaimed, good God,

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as I saw the object of my felicitude standing beside

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my fire erect and looking suspiciously around. It was in

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the image of a man, but it could not have

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been human ever, so benumbed with astonishment. Before we just

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don't talk like that, no more.

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Speaker 3: Doing no, No, I like it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: The creature, whatever it was, stood full five feet high,

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the and disproportionately broad and square at the shoulders, with

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arms of great length. The legs were very short and

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the body long. The head was small compared to the

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rest of the creature and appeared to be set upon

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his shoulders without a neck. The hole was covered with

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dark brown and cinnamon colored hair, quite long on some

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parts that on the head, standing in a back and

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growing close to the eyes like a digger's Indian. As

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I looked, he threw his head back and whistled again,

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and then stooped and grasped a stick from the fire.

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This he swung round and round until the fire on

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the end was gone out. When he repeated the maneuver,

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I was dumb almost and could only look. Basically, he

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was dumbfounded. Fifteen minutes I sat and watched him as

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he whistled and scattered my fire about. I could easily

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have put a bullet through his head, But why should

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I kill him? Having amused himself? Apparently all he desired

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was with my fire.

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Speaker 10: He started to.

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Speaker 9: Go, and having gone a short distance, he returned and

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was joined by another, a female. Unmistakably when then they

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both turned and walked past me within twenty yards of

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where I sat, and disappeared into the brush. I could

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not have had a better opportunity for observing him, as

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they were unconscious of my presence. Their only object in

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visiting my camp seemed to be amusing themselves with swinging

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lighted sticks around. I have heard this story many times

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since then, and it has often raised an incredulous smile.

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But I have met one person who has seen the

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mysterious creature and a dozen who have come across their

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tracks at very places between here and Pacho Pass.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 9: Like I said, it's a little bit of a long one,

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but but.

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Speaker 10: Pretty good thing.

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Speaker 3: But the thing that keeps popping up is the descriptions.

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Uh what that was one hundred and fifty years ago?

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Approximately longer than that, probably, Yeah, it was, yeah, about one.

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Speaker 9: Hundred and fifty, one hundred and fifty, one hundred and

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sixty years ago. I can't do the mass off the

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top of my head.

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Speaker 3: I didn't either. I was just kind of winging it.

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But yeah, that's amazing. And to hear these encounter stories.

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We hear people now that that come out and tell

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us how it's how similar they are. And I like

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the attitude, like he's like, he's I'm telling you what

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I saw, don't tell me it was a rangutang or exactly.

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Speaker 9: He's like, I know what I saw, And again, how

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often do we hear that?

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Speaker 10: Now? It is right, like you said, you know what

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you saw.

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Speaker 3: I know what I saw, right, and there's nobody that

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can tell us any different. So we got We've got

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a guy tonight, y'all that's been doing this for a

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long time, and I'm gonna, uh just let him come

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in and tell a little bit about himself and we'll

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get into it. Uh. He's probably got so much we

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you know, we won't get to everything, I'm sure, but uh,

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what what's interesting about Bruce is where he grew up.

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I've been in the area and some of his uh encounters,

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He's been to your area researching in the past, and

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he knows you know exactly where you are. Matter of fact,

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back backstage, Uh he was researching not what like just

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a few miles from where you're at right now.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: So we'll bring Bruce on. He's probably will probably put

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him to sleep. Hey, Bruce's going good, Matt. I appreciate

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you being here. Uh Yeah. The show, y'all, do is

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Cryptid Wrangler. Yeah yeah, yeah, And y'all go go check

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them out when you can. What nights do y'all do that.

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Speaker 4: We do the we do the panel show Friday nights

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at five Pacific time. I think that's like okay, eight here,

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nine here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, y'all, y'all scattered all over the country, like

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some of some of us are, like, we are here. Yeah. Uh,

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but that that's a that's but the technology. I say

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this all the time. It's amazing that you guys can

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get together, uh that far apart, you know, like Amanda

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and I we've never met, but we can get on

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here and log on and and share stories and listen

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to and people get upset when you say stories. It's

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your story. I mean, it's an encounter, but your your

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painting a picture with words when you're explaining, it's basically

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what it is. So so tell us a little bit

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about yourself and uh, you know how you got into

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this and I'm I'm guessing the area from it. It

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probably started at a young age.

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Speaker 4: Just I guess. Yes, I'm former law enforcement officer, uh,

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police officer, deputy sure sergeant, sergeant of patrol, detective um hmm,

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cheap and narcotics, homeland security. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I mean that's that's uh, that's a that's a

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good list. And so what that tells me is, uh,

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Bruce is a guy that uh wants to help people,

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and he's inquisitive. He probably probably inquisitive and probably pretty

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good at what he does. So when it when it

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there's I think the surprise to me when I started

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doing this is the amount of police officers, former police officers,

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UH investigat have things happened to them just out of

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the blue, and then they're like they have to continue,

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like what are these things? You know? Why are they here? Why?

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You know? Because we were always told they don't exist.

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It's just it's just a story, it's just a movie.

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And then something happens. If you've got inquisitive mind, this

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is like Amanda that what happened to her when she

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was younger. Now she works at a Bigfoot museum, so

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at a co host of podcast, So tell us, tell

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us kind of what when you first were exposed to

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some of.

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Speaker 4: This, Oh, I was My father was in the military

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for thirty three and a half years and uh he's

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from here in Tennessee and Bufflow Valley of Tennessee, and

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we vacation every year back to Tennessee until he retired.

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And plus He had a farm here on Holmes Gap Road,

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which is in Straddlesmith County in Wilson County. My first

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encounter was at my grandmother's place. I had to back then,

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I won't want I don't want to make it sound

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like I'm too old. I'm just about thirty years old,

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about thirty something years ago. But anyway I was. You

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got kites back then, you had to build them yourself.

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You couldn't buy them already put together. So I built

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me a kite. I was at my grandmother's and I

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went out to back in the field at the edge

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of the yard, a little hate builder. It's a plight,

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and I couldn't get it off the ground. But these

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three gorillas walked out off the creek up a little

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banking over in the field with me. Well, I knew

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not to look at in the eye stuff. Me and

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Daddy watched Wild Kingdom and they were gorilla as far

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as I was concerned, eight years old, and I was

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After several attempts, I couldn't get my kite up, so

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I took my kite back in to my grandmother. Said

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I can't get my kite in there. And I said,

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but and three gorillas come out and watch me. She says, anything.

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Ain't no gorillas in Tennessee. And I said, oh, yeah, yeah.

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I said, oh, we watched Wild Kingdom. As long as

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you don't look them in the eye, you know, they

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won't bother you, you know. And she said, no, there's

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no grillas. I mean, no, no gorillas, and here you're

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seeing something else. And so I didn't sass or nothing.

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I just said okay. And she looked at my kite.

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She said, well, you ain't got no tail on it.

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And I said teal. She says, yeah, you got to

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have a tail on it. So she got an old

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sheet and cut me up three links of tail, tied

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it on there and tied them in not She said, good,

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take that back out there. And right well, she had

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looked out the window to see if those gorillas were

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still out there, and they weren't there. So I went

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back after and after about two maybe three attempts, I

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got the kite in there. As I was letting my

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straining out, they come right back out and they got

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closer to me. They was watching me feed that string out.

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Then they started watching the kite, so I let I

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flew it there a few minutes and come to the

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end of my string and I was bringing it back in,

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and I about twenty five or thirty yards before I

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got the kite back in, it crashed. So I walked

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over and got it, and they were probably twenty five

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thirty feet from me. I just kept my head down

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and wouldn't look at him.

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Speaker 3: And the eye, Oh God.

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Speaker 4: So I picked the kite up back in the house.

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So Grandma said it worked this time. I said, those gorillas,

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they sure did enjoy it. You know, they watched it too.

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And she says, honey, there's no grilla is in Tennessee.

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She said they only exist in the zoo. There's no

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no gorillas in the United States. And I wasn't gonna

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sass her, so I say, okay. Well, a week later

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she takes me to my great grandmother's house and to

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check on my parents great grandparents. And I was outside

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and my great grandfather was a blacksmith, and he didn't

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talk a lot, so he would say, boy, pull up

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a chair, and I'd pull up a chair, and he'd

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pull out a cedar stick and hand me a cedar

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stick and an old pocket. Now, dull, you couldn't cut

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butter with it. You know, he'd be whittling on his

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and I'm trying to whittle on mine. And keep in

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mind I'm eight years old. So my great grandmother she

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calls for me, come on in the house and need

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to speak to you. Okay, yes, ma'am. So I took

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off in the house. Well, they didn't believe in electricity.

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That was the devil's doing. So she had an old

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cook stove and old whole old lamps for life. Well,

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she had made me some biscuits, and she got down

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some preserves and heated up me some honey and glasses

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and brought me out a big old plate of cat

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head biscuits. I'll never forget it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh god, oh man, those are woodstoves. I've had

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some of the best biscuits.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, she said, honey, she said, you ain't

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seeing no gorillas. You send Harryman. And she told me

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that she was full bloody Cherokee. And she told me

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the Cherokee name Born, but I couldn't pronounce it, and

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so she would refer to them as Harryman. So I underderstood.

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And she told me what her ground father they told her,

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and it was passed down that during a hunting party

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went out. The family members went out on a hunting party,

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and they'd killed deer and elk, and I think she

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said a buffalo or two buffalo and brought them back in.

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And they when they'd kill those animals still and kill

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them out, they put them on a meat pole and

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they would leave two of the the tribes members to

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guard it overnight as long as you know, that was

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their food. And she said that sometime during that night

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the harry men come in and killed the tribes members

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and got the meat. So the next morning they got

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together a hunting party and they tracked them and found them,

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and then they got into a battle, and I think

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they killed two harry men and they ended up losing

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another couple of tribes members but got part of the

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meat back. So that was her explanation that And she

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told me, she said, if you if you out like

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that and you encounter them, this is what I want

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you to do. She said, if you're close to the

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house so the barn just don't acknowledge them and they

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won't bother you. And if you're out hunting or fishing,

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she said, I want you to you're fishing in the creek.

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I want you to take a stick with a why

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in it and hang some of those fishop in a

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tree when you catch them for a gift, and they

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will not bother you. Of course, I'm eight years old.

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I'm not buying the story, you know, so I ain't

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giving my fees away, right, So we went. When I

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was twelve was when I really got into big pudding,

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heavy heavy. I got obsessed with it so bad that

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my daddy got mad at me over it. But we

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were fishing in the backwaters of the Cumberland River and

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there in Smith County, at the Jackson County line, and

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we were catching bluegills, so across the lake. The lake

476
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,039
was down somewhat across the lake, I seen three more

477
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:30,440
walk out of the cattails and walk out and watch

478
00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:34,400
us and walk back in. Well, Mom and Dad was

479
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,359
down down a few yards from they never seen them,

480
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:41,000
so Daddy, he was already a little upset with me,

481
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:45,279
so I wasn't gonna bring it up. So they turned around,

482
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,480
these bigfoot did and walk back into the cacktails and

483
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:52,039
back into the woods. So I sitting there catching brim

484
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:56,400
and they slowed up. So I walked up a backwater

485
00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:58,440
to where a little creek come in, and I crossed

486
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,839
over the creek and went over there to work these

487
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:06,480
bigfoot and standing and there's tracks everwhere there. So I'm

488
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,799
sitting there catching bluegill again. And when I bring one up,

489
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,240
I catch him. I pitch him on the ground. I

490
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:15,720
catch him, pitch him on the ground. Well, I happened

491
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,079
to notice the little one out of the three was

492
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:23,200
about my size. He had walked back out on that

493
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:27,400
mud flat watching me in the creek. The way the

494
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,559
creek was, I had an old rock fence coming down

495
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,279
through her and was about eight ft of water in

496
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,640
the center of the creek. To walk up that mud

497
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,160
flat and get on that little old rock fence and

498
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,119
drop your barber down there, you can wear them bluegill out.

499
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:44,799
So I was catching and pitching them over behind me.

500
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,519
Looked around and there he is. So he's watching me.

501
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,960
His little one is watching me. He's my size. He's

502
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,160
watching me out on hooking thumbing, and he'd watched it

503
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,480
hit the ground and flop. All I got to think of. Well,

504
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:04,079
great grandmothers said leave him some m So I was thinking, well,

505
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:08,440
next time I catch, I'm gonna give it to you,

506
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,680
and so I caught one and took it off the hook,

507
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,680
and what a twelve year old could throw one for? Handed?

508
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,720
I threw it to him and he walked right down

509
00:31:19,759 --> 00:31:22,960
to it, bent down like an Asian person, and he

510
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,000
picked it up and then walked into the woods. The

511
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:28,000
cat tails and went in the woods, and I've never

512
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:28,799
seen him again.

513
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:39,599
Speaker 3: Wow, oh my god, this is what is amazing. If

514
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,160
you'd have been twenty five years old the first time

515
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,119
you ever saw him and nobody to talk to you

516
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,240
sensibly about them, do you think you would have acted

517
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:52,720
that calmly as you did as a kid, and having

518
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:57,759
people in your family that kind of prepared you for it?

519
00:31:58,039 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: I mean, because oh no, if I was, if I

520
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,079
had been thirty something years old, it scared me to death.

521
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting I'm getting chills. But it's also I

522
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:12,640
love hearing this because, uh, you know, a lot of

523
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,279
a lot of the stories that are out there are

524
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:21,400
for the shock value and the fear and all that,

525
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,119
which that's okay, because you need to be careful. But

526
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:32,079
I love things like this because it's it shows another side, more,

527
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,119
a calmer side, more I won't say humanistic in a way,

528
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,960
but uh, that's amazing that it's just as I'm blown

529
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,160
away by that. And to be twelve years old and

530
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,359
and remember what you know your grandma said and share

531
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,599
with them that that's that you exactly child innocence. That's

532
00:32:56,039 --> 00:33:00,519
but uh, after you did that, I mean, you hadn't

533
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:04,759
had anything bad happen. I know they probably probably just

534
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,440
you know, guessing here, it probably didn't feel threatened by

535
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,880
eight year old or twelve year old.

536
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's that's probably one of the reasons why

537
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:13,279
they approached me.

538
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. And so throughout your life, you've been doing this

539
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:25,200
a long time, have you seen a lot of curiosity

540
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,240
from him, like we've heard from other people.

541
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yes, uh this this is sort

542
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,200
of funny. But in a way it's not funny. Uh.

543
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

544
00:33:38,359 --> 00:33:41,279
Speaker 4: I gifted I gifted a big female on the Cumberlin

545
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:46,680
uh slim gems mm hm. And you know, and everybody

546
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,880
thinks about the yeah the Bigfoot commercial with Darrel the

547
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,640
Bigfoot right found his name, Yeah yeah.

548
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,279
Speaker 3: From that commercial.

549
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:01,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but uh, I had several other incidents after that.

550
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,279
They were short ones, just a few seconds. And then

551
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:08,119
when I moved to my mom and daddy, when I

552
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,199
turned to fifteen, wouldn't let me move out of the

553
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,559
house unless they bought my first farm and they could

554
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,480
check on us. Of course, they had the keys to

555
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:22,760
my door and everything. And as I got to seventeen sixteen,

556
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:29,920
seventeen U School Superintendent Pupman County, Tennessee. He gets a

557
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,880
hold of me. He knows me well because mom and

558
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,320
daddy bought me a farm there in Buffalo Valley, Tennessee,

559
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,760
which is in Pupman County. He gets a hold of

560
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,719
them and he says, uh, Bruce, I needs you to

561
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,760
look into something for me. I said, sure, what you got?

562
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,360
You know, we sharecrop. I helped him with his tobacco,

563
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,599
Betty's cows of the winter time and stuff like that.

564
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,239
He's like, well, I got a bus driver and a

565
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,960
load of school kids every morning between sixt six thirty

566
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:05,280
or seeing a bear in a cub walk across the road.

567
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,199
And I said, well, said I've never heard a bear

568
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,000
in this country. And he said, Bruce, there ain't been

569
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,360
no bear in this country in over one hundred years. Well,

570
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,079
these kids are getting school and telling the teacher, and

571
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,079
so the teachers took the principal. The principal asked a

572
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:25,800
bus driver and he admitted to it. So the principal

573
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,920
called the superintendent. Well, his name was Walter Shanks, Public County.

574
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,000
So he gets a hold on me and he tells

575
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,960
me the bus driver's name and stuff. And I said, yeah, yeah,

576
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,800
I'll help you out on that. You know, I was

577
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,760
big into trapping and stuff. I knew if it was

578
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,760
a bear, I couldn't legally kill it because there wasn't

579
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,360
you know, there wasn't no season there. There wasn't supposed

580
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,360
to be none exist. So I know the man's land

581
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,639
that they were seeing the bear cross and the cub

582
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,239
cross over on two, and he is, all, I saw

583
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,480
a farmer, but he's a park ranger for ed Grevens

584
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:08,320
State Park. And so I get a hold of him

585
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,280
and I'll tell him what's going on, he said. And

586
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,039
he said when are you going to go? And I said,

587
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,519
I'm gonna go tonight. And he's a I had a

588
00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:22,880
Johnny Walker caller, uh, And I said, I'm gonna go tonight.

589
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:27,239
Let's see if we can get an answer or steer

590
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,800
it up. And he was like, I want to go

591
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,239
with I said, well that's fine. More a marrier, you know. Well,

592
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,280
I go on to the house and I get my

593
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,559
stuff ready, my game callers and everything ready, and I

594
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:43,400
get a ring on the house phone. We didn't have

595
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:46,679
cell phones back then. And I answered it and it's him.

596
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,400
He said, Hey, my my brother in law. I worked

597
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,960
for Ford Motor Company and he lives right above you.

598
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,480
And said, uh, he got a brand new Ford Well

599
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:02,679
drive truck. He's gonna let us use it. I said, hey,

600
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,480
that'll work. He said, but now his son's wanted to go.

601
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,800
His son's eighteen or nineteen. I said, yeah, that'll work.

602
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:12,320
I said, we'll let him drive. If something happens that truck,

603
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,199
we can blame him.

604
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,079
Speaker 3: Man it head. I like it.

605
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, so because you know, a brand new truck back

606
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:31,719
in those days, you know that was that was nice. Yeah.

607
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,480
We got five guns together in a quilt and we

608
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,119
went up to this place and then you turned in

609
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:43,719
the barn lot. We left the gate open, and I

610
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,559
told the boys, said turn around and back up to

611
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,480
the upper side of the barn where we could see

612
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:52,119
the field behind the barn. And uh. I had a

613
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,320
down jack rabbit squill call, so I started playing it

614
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,280
and I told him my hands. We went up a nighttime.

615
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,079
It was up in the night in January, cold, cold, cold,

616
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:09,559
I'll never forget the temperature of seventeen degrees outside. And

617
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,360
I told that young boy, I said, I'm gonna take

618
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,719
his spotlight plug and plug it into cigarette lighter. Your

619
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,880
job is to keep us from unplugging it. And so

620
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,400
I cut the game collar on him. About ten minutes,

621
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,960
I heard some stuff just a few peed off the

622
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,920
back of the truck. So I reached sober and nudged

623
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,239
the man with me part ranger, mister George. I said,

624
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,519
we got something there at the back of the truck. Well,

625
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:40,360
back then, if you was a property owner and you

626
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,320
had coyotes and stuff like that, you was legally could

627
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:50,159
shoot him at night on your property. And he I

628
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,800
cut the well, he cut the spotlight. Only len't even

629
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,360
hold the spotlight. And there were a couple of coyotes.

630
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,719
We even had a bobcat and some other stuff there,

631
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,320
which was really unused because you don't have that kind

632
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:08,039
of mixture altogether. And so I was raised up ready

633
00:39:08,039 --> 00:39:11,239
to take a shot, and he was too, and about

634
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,639
that time we heard this humongous scream. It sounded like

635
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,559
a twenty five hundred pound bull. Started out with a

636
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:23,960
low beller and went to a high screen. Well, I

637
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:26,159
tapped him on the shoulder and I said, hold on, then,

638
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,480
let's see what this is. We'll coming off this mountain

639
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:34,400
down a point. It was practically straight down. We could

640
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:40,519
hear tears, trees tearing up, and just it sounded like

641
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:45,000
a dozer. Ben drove off the top that hill and

642
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,360
I said, this sold up again and I told him,

643
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,880
I said, keep that spotlight on. Bought it, you know,

644
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,159
it just kept coming. Well, it stepped out in the

645
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:57,480
field just a few yards behind the truck, and it

646
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:02,800
was a massive, massive bigfoot, the biggest, the biggest one

647
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:10,000
I've ever seen since and now just massive. He lets

648
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:14,000
out this, he's sort of you could see him inhale.

649
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:22,159
When he exhales, it vibrates us. It's just tremendous. He

650
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,679
breaks and run towards a truck. Oh well, I reach through.

651
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,159
I reach around and grab the two forty three. George

652
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:32,639
grabs the thirty o six. We both come up at

653
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:37,199
the same time and we can't get in the truck.

654
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,159
He's too close. He's running at us. There's no way

655
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:41,719
we can get out of it. We've got no choice

656
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,079
but to shoot him. We raise up We got him

657
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:47,639
in the scope and we're picking the pull the trigger,

658
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,880
and he lets out this low pitch scream, went to

659
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,960
a medium to a high net locker and muscles. We

660
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,000
couldn't pull the trigger.

661
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

662
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,159
Speaker 4: Wow. So you the young man that was sitting in

663
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:06,400
the driver's ship the truck that was driving. Back then,

664
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,320
those big three quarter tron trucks had those giant mirrors

665
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,920
on the outside of them. He's seen it through the

666
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,840
mirror and he drove off. Well, he drove off with

667
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,199
us standing up in the back. No keeping mine on

668
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,079
the top of the cab of the truck on the quip.

669
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:28,079
We had our other guns laying there. Oh yes. So

670
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:31,320
here he tears out through the barn lot and hits

671
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,920
the road and this thing is just right off the tailgate. Now,

672
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,599
when he took off, he threw me and mister George

673
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,480
against the tailgate. I was going over the tailgate when

674
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,440
mister George caught me. So as soon as he took

675
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,440
off and we hit that tailgate, we come out of

676
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,000
that what I call zap right, and he caught me

677
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,519
as I was going over the tailgate. Well, we hit it.

678
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:58,719
In the roads back then were dirt roads. Gravel dirt roads.

679
00:41:59,199 --> 00:42:03,760
Wasn't no payment around for miles. So we're going down

680
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,079
this road at twenty five thirty mile an hour, and

681
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:09,119
this thing is keeping up with us. He's gaining, I

682
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,719
mean he's gaining. He's mad, he's screaming. So we go

683
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,840
around the curve. He's besch telling. We get up to

684
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,360
maybe forty forty five, and he's right there at us,

685
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,079
and we can tell I tell people whose hurt His

686
00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:26,519
head was, Maddie, But he had a perfect braid around

687
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:31,880
his head. It was braided at heart. And he started

688
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,719
fading out faster that So we got up to forty

689
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,480
five or so on. Keep in mind we're all over

690
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:41,159
the road on the gravel roads. He just can't stay centered.

691
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:44,920
So we get to the guy's house that wants it's

692
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,119
a truck and the sun driving his son pulls in

693
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:51,679
the driveway, but doesn't cut the truck off and doesn't

694
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:53,760
put it in park. He just bottles out of it.

695
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,559
Oh yeah, so mister George is on that side behind him.

696
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,719
He jumps off, runs up and jumps in the truck

697
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,199
and puts it in park and cuts the truck off. Well,

698
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:09,920
the boy's daddy comes running out said, what happened? What happened.

699
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,960
So we're sitting there trying to tell him what happened.

700
00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:15,400
Of course, I'm sure both of us as white as

701
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,159
ghosts because he just knew we was had. Yeah, this

702
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,559
was a massive This was a massive creature. The mama

703
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,000
comes running out of the house screaming there's something wrong

704
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:33,599
with her son. So we run in there. We run

705
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,079
in there to see what's wrong with him, and he

706
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:40,800
can't talk. His lips are quivering, his hands are shaking,

707
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,639
he cannot speak. He's in shock. He's look, he's looking

708
00:43:46,679 --> 00:43:52,039
straight ahead. He's not acknowledging us nothing. So we're sitting

709
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:54,159
there talking to him, and after a few minutes what

710
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,440
seemed like thirty minutes of an hour, he finally stuttered

711
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,599
these words up. He says, it's coming to the house

712
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:03,719
and it's going to kill all of us. God, and

713
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,119
then he didn't say nothing else.

714
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, uh, that's that's that's one of the bad

715
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:16,239
situations where you know, if you'd fell out, you might

716
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,119
not be here right now.

717
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,599
Speaker 4: Killed me, would have killed me. That that game caller

718
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:22,480
is the only thing I can think that set him

719
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:23,599
in that rage.

720
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: So greg our buddy, you know, he lives in not

721
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,960
far from me. He he had a sound one time.

722
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,800
It's right behind him, right beside him, and he explained

723
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,239
it as a bellow roar, scream, howl, And you know

724
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:46,760
we've heard him and it my son described when he

725
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,400
heard one time. It started out like a big bull

726
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,800
for just a split second, like you said, bellerin and

727
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,599
then it goes up. And we're getting reports reports like that,

728
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,559
and we've heard it.

729
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 9: And and the one that zapped me did did that.

730
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,519
I've never found anything that sounds like how that did.

731
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:11,559
Where it started out like a regular roar, I guess

732
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:13,119
you would want to call it, and then as it

733
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:14,199
went on, it just kind.

734
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:14,519
Speaker 10: Of went.

735
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 9: Up into more of a scream type to it.

736
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 4: Well, they'll start out but below your human hearing. You

737
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,159
will come into your human heiring and hearing, and then

738
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:29,880
go above that. By the time you hear it, you've

739
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,239
already been sapped mm hm.

740
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: And you know when And we use terms like that

741
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,159
because we don't know what else to call it. I

742
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:40,599
know exactly what you're talking about. I've I've been frozen.

743
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,360
It wasn't with fear. Now, I've been scared enough in

744
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,239
my life. But you you can't move. You can't and

745
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,840
you don't in your brain's working, but you don't know

746
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:55,199
why you can't move, and it's it's terrible, y'all. H Bruce,

747
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,639
can you do me a favor? You got you got

748
00:45:57,639 --> 00:45:59,639
the go tee like I do. Can you pull that

749
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,960
mic just off? It's scratching a little bit?

750
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Thank you, sir.

751
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 3: I was to figure out what it was, I said,

752
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,960
I had, I did that one time.

753
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 9: So but the question before we move on to the

754
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:13,920
next one, you mentioned a couple of things that it

755
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,639
was really interesting. You said, whenever it was chasing y'all,

756
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,840
y'all you know, got up speed there on the dirt road,

757
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,559
that it was that it phase phased out. Was that

758
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:29,400
as in like it started phasing like disappearing, or was

759
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,199
y'all just dusting it out from the dirt.

760
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: He was losing speed?

761
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:37,079
Speaker 3: Gotcha?

762
00:46:37,199 --> 00:46:37,599
Speaker 10: Okay?

763
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 9: And then you said that he talked about how big

764
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,199
he was. Do you have any general idea about estimation

765
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,599
about how big you thought he could have?

766
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,599
Speaker 4: Well? We uh uh. The woman there made his hot chocolate.

767
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,800
Landowner who owned the land was a park ranger. I

768
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,800
told him we needed to go back up there. Because

769
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:01,199
we had two guns missing. And he said, I'm not

770
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,280
going back, and I said, your land, We've got to

771
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,440
go back. Yeah, And so after daylight, about seven o'clock,

772
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:09,480
he agreed to go with me, and we went back,

773
00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:13,039
both heavily armed, and we found one of our guns

774
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,159
in the road with a busted stock, and we found

775
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:19,599
another one in the barnyard. Okay, it wasn't hurt. But

776
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,079
we also found tracks. Now, at that time, I wore

777
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,639
nine and a half to ten boot. Okay, I laid

778
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,079
my boot in its track sideways and still liked another

779
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:37,119
inch or better, being as white as that track put.

780
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:40,840
I put my tota heel lengthwise in it and still

781
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,239
liked another inch and a half being as long as

782
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:43,679
the track.

783
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 9: Wow, that's a big boy.

784
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 4: Yep.

785
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: So do you think, Bruce, thinking back, the little details

786
00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:59,880
tell part of a story. So those other animals, do

787
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,440
you think they were coming to y'all to get away

788
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,639
from him? Or were they You think they were coming

789
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:07,719
to the call and hungry because they thought something was injured.

790
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 4: Well, this was in January, so I think they were hungry. Okay,

791
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:17,960
I don't know what that dying dying rabbit call. I

792
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,679
had a Johnny Walker game caller with a massive PA

793
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:24,000
system on it, so it can be you could hear

794
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:25,039
it from miles.

795
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:28,119
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, was that was that lego back then?

796
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,039
Speaker 4: Ye?

797
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm joking a little bit because we we we

798
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,000
could do the mouth stuff, but for a while, you know,

799
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:38,800
we're we're not too far from you, but we couldn't.

800
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,760
Uh but oh, you had a ranger with you anyway,

801
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,559
It don't matter with him.

802
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,119
Speaker 4: Long as you're on your own land, you're okay.

803
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:54,639
Speaker 3: Okay, got you all right? Yeah? But man, that's that's

804
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,679
I don't know. I don't even know what to say

805
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:58,960
about that because I can't. Here's who I'm thinking about,

806
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,760
because you you knew what it was. You just never

807
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,440
had seen one that big. The poor kid driving, ah,

808
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,199
I mean, when you're in that state, he could have

809
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,159
ran over when y'all he'd kept going, I mean, if

810
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:13,559
you fell out, he was leaving you.

811
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's gone.

812
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,079
Speaker 3: So so how did the ranger, the guy, how did

813
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,039
he handle it? Did? Did y'all talk about it much

814
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:22,559
after that?

815
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 4: We did, and we would. We decided to keep it

816
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:33,280
quiet because of the ridicule, because what the his brother

817
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,519
in law and his sisters told about their son, the

818
00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:41,559
way he acted and what we seen. They didn't go

819
00:49:41,639 --> 00:49:45,280
over too good with in the community there. It would

820
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,199
find we didn't have no problems. It was the outsiders

821
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,519
that that give us a hard time over it.

822
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's and you know doing you know, his job,

823
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,760
public job, you know, and the job you were doing.

824
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:03,559
H I've had people tell me privately, I can't tell

825
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:07,599
this publicly because of my job, and what if they

826
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:10,119
think my state of mind is off? It could mess

827
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:14,280
up things I did for twenty years, you know, my job.

828
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,920
You like, I can say this is a former police officer.

829
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,599
He's not from the state, but that's his concern about

830
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:22,639
going public. He he'll be in chat with you know,

831
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:25,960
a chat name and all that. I've met him several

832
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,679
times up in Kentucky, and that's what he was worried about,

833
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,400
was all of these cases that he had and he

834
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,559
closed and people, you know, the criminals went to jail

835
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:38,880
to prison. He's like, I don't know what they would

836
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,480
do if they they heard some of the things and

837
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,280
and one of them' dog men. I mean, I'll tell

838
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,400
you I'm always transparent. I didn't know what to think

839
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,519
about that when I first heard about it. But I

840
00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:53,719
have so many people that I know and trust and

841
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:58,599
investigate that looked me in the eyes and say, no,

842
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,400
they're real. They're real because and they'll tell you a

843
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,800
story and you're like, oh my god. So uh yeah,

844
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,559
that's a good question. Greg, the the the boy that

845
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,880
was driving, and the guy that was with y'all. Did

846
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,159
they have any more encounters later in life or was

847
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:18,679
the only one?

848
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,679
Speaker 9: Did the kids keep seeing the bears on the school of.

849
00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: Us too after that? After that night, I never was

850
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,440
seen again. So we talked with people who lived across

851
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,440
the street, this park ranger on there. It was a

852
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,800
rental house. He had an older couple living in it.

853
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,280
They moved out the next day. And then when I

854
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,159
was able to locate them in the little community of Boma,

855
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,239
Tennessee and talk to them, uh it was it was

856
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,440
using their driveway every morning at that time. And so

857
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,519
I went back to the bus driver and I said, listen,

858
00:51:53,559 --> 00:51:56,559
I said, what did you see across the road? He said,

859
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:59,800
I sent a bear and cub I said, was a

860
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:02,440
walking on all fours or standing up? He said no,

861
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:06,119
it was on two legs. So I said, listen, be

862
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:09,840
straight with me, what did you see? And he said,

863
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,679
it's like you know, verst my job, that's take here.

864
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:16,920
You know. I convinced all the kids to say it

865
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,960
was a bear if they was gonna tell anybody, because

866
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,679
we didn't know what it was right, and so eventually

867
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:25,840
owned up to it.

868
00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:29,679
Speaker 3: So there's a little blues in here. If they're if

869
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,639
they're comfortable in their area, they may be creatures of habit,

870
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,440
just like humans are. Uh you know, they find a

871
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,679
safe way to travel or you know, the bus never

872
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,440
heard them. So yeah, that's interesting. That's that's really interesting.

873
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,360
I look at uh in the story. Sometimes there's little

874
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,400
things that make you go, hm, you know, you write

875
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,039
it down. I see a man, do you she's writing

876
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,840
down things with a pen because it's it's not It

877
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,880
may not mean anything, but you'll be surprised at how

878
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,639
much these little things come up in other other stories.

879
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:08,000
But so from from that, from I know you've gone

880
00:53:08,159 --> 00:53:14,320
other places to investigate, you know, uh, big foot dog man? Uh,

881
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:20,400
what what is? What is one of your favorite? Uh investigations?

882
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,480
Not not around your home that you might have you

883
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:24,280
may have to throw.

884
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 4: Oh, I've got a bunch of them. Let me let

885
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,519
me think of one.

886
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,159
Speaker 3: I knew you did. I could tell by talking to

887
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:35,960
you a couple of weeks ago. I'm like, Bruce, been

888
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,000
doing this a long time.

889
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 4: I've got we can get it. We want to do

890
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:42,400
big butter dog Man.

891
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 3: We we can. We can do a big Foot and

892
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,599
then well we'll go into the dog Man. I want

893
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,599
to know you know, I told Bruce y'all before we

894
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:52,960
come on to talk to me about dog Man, like

895
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,760
I know nothing, because that's kind of where it's at,

896
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,880
and a lot of people are on the fence with it,

897
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:00,960
or some just don't believe it. But I've had to

898
00:54:01,039 --> 00:54:03,400
change my attitude because of the people I know and

899
00:54:03,519 --> 00:54:07,199
trusted the things they've told me. But yeah, start with

900
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,880
the Bigfoot and then we cant you lead follow up

901
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:11,559
with the dog men.

902
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I've had I'll give it some light, some lighter,

903
00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:19,400
more interesting encounters to give some people out there, the

904
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:25,840
researchers and stuff, something to think about. Uh. On the

905
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Cumland River, Uh, I made friends with a klan of

906
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:36,639
Bigfoot and the female. The big female was the head

907
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:42,159
of the clan, the male the males weren't. Oh. She routed,

908
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,840
She ruled the clan and mooving in her hair with

909
00:54:48,039 --> 00:54:51,880
snail shells out of the creek and muscle shells that

910
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,480
she picked up off the river was woven in her hair.

911
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,400
Wow uh. And when we were want and we would

912
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,360
get close, she took a liking to me, and she

913
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,599
would keep the others back, well, the big males in

914
00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:09,079
the apple mail. They would chatter and carry on like

915
00:55:09,159 --> 00:55:14,039
a tree rocks, and she would just raise her voice

916
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:18,119
and like a scolding and keep them back. And at

917
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:21,360
one point we were within we sat down within five

918
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,159
feet of each other. I sat down on the rock

919
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,719
and she instead of her sitting down like a human,

920
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,639
she just squatted down on her knees and she would

921
00:55:33,679 --> 00:55:40,320
a handsigal and as I would talk, she would pick

922
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,599
words up off of me. And after probably ten or

923
00:55:44,599 --> 00:55:52,519
twelve meetings this past year, early spring this past year,

924
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,199
I had another meeting with her in the clan and

925
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,199
they had got a little bit closer to me, but

926
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,280
she was right against me, and she kept instead of

927
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,480
saying help like we said, she'd say hope, hope, and

928
00:56:11,519 --> 00:56:14,199
then she'd hold her she would do like an Indian

929
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,360
and hold her fingers like that to her mouth. And

930
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:23,119
I kept telling her I didn't understand. Well, after about

931
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:29,679
forty five minutes there communicating or whatever you want to

932
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,079
call it with them, they got up and walked off,

933
00:56:33,199 --> 00:56:37,079
and she led the way. They followed her. So I

934
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:42,039
followed them to a cave. And when I got to

935
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:45,280
the cave, they had already gone into the cave, and

936
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,119
I was right behind the last one. And then I

937
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,360
stopped just first second because the cave's dark. I needed

938
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,119
to get my light out of my penny pack. And

939
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,239
I got my light out and I started in and

940
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:07,079
I heard not in her, but another one's boy said no, no, no, Well,

941
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,920
this is what I heard, and so I left her.

942
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:18,880
I drove back home. I passed a pecon stand in Carthage, Tennessee,

943
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,960
on the side of Highway twenty five, and I got

944
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,000
home and got thinking about it. I was like, I

945
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:28,039
wonder if they were hungry because we didn't have a

946
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:34,239
good nut crop the year before, so more I thought

947
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:37,960
about it, Yeah, I'm gonna I drove back down there

948
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,159
and I bought two of the biggest bag of pecans

949
00:57:40,159 --> 00:57:44,280
this guy had, and I drove back up there and

950
00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:46,400
by the time I got to the cave, it was

951
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:51,239
just getting dark, dusky dark. Well, I started to open

952
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,559
a bag, and I announced myself being there. When I

953
00:57:55,599 --> 00:57:57,719
opened that bag and started to pour it out, they

954
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,719
had a big flat rock that had a a three

955
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,199
to four inch deep hole by about four to five

956
00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:06,440
inches wide, and you could tell they'd been crushing nuts, sir.

957
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,639
So when I started pouring, I didn't get probably four

958
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:14,320
or five pecans out of the bag when I heard

959
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,440
thank you, thank you, thank you. So I set to

960
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:22,639
both bags down at that time and didn't open the

961
00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:24,559
other bag. I just set them there on my rock

962
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:27,760
and left. Well, I heard that all the way back

963
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,960
to my truck. Now you've got to keep in mind,

964
00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:35,000
my truck's a good mile away. So then we come

965
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:39,320
into I was hearing it with my ears, but was

966
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:45,679
his mind speak telepathy because it was the same level

967
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:46,800
in volume.

968
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 3: Right, but they're further away.

969
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 4: They're along what they're a mile away?

970
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: That's correct, that's wild. Well, there you go again. I

971
00:58:57,039 --> 00:58:58,920
didn't know what to think about that at first, but

972
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,199
I'm on board now with possibilities because even my son

973
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,880
has heard something in his head that wasn't his voice,

974
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:15,280
and and what it said was referring to itself instead

975
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,719
of him, so it wasn't his thought and that freaked

976
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,840
that freaked him out, you know. But the more you're

977
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,760
the more you're exposed to some of it, the better

978
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,320
you can deal with it. And I know when you said, uh,

979
00:59:29,559 --> 00:59:34,679
way she pronounced help, I heard hope, and the way

980
00:59:34,719 --> 00:59:37,519
you said it, I'm kind of remembering. I was taking

981
00:59:37,519 --> 00:59:41,480
aback a little bit because I heard what I think

982
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,599
now was the young one that messaged with us a

983
00:59:44,599 --> 00:59:48,239
little bit and the mom and he didn't go whoop.

984
00:59:48,599 --> 00:59:52,760
He went whoop, whoop like that, and she grunted at

985
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,920
him like shut up. You know, I didn't see him,

986
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,480
but I was listening and I hear this interaction. And

987
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:01,440
you know, I hate to talk about mine, I tell

988
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,360
it so much, but when somebody says something like that,

989
01:00:04,519 --> 01:00:11,039
I've heard that similarity of this, this younger one maybe

990
01:00:11,039 --> 01:00:13,880
trying to whoop, but he was. He was doing that

991
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,440
same mouth that sent whoop instead of you know, so

992
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,280
that's that's wild.

993
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:22,199
Speaker 9: It's almost like, or at least the one he was

994
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,440
the matriarch there. So as long as like she couldn't

995
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,840
get the l for help, so it can help our hope,

996
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:34,639
which is more throaty mm hmm.

997
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: I think.

998
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,199
Speaker 3: Wow. So how long how long did you interact with these?

999
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: Oh? I still interact with them today. Okay, so yeah,

1000
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:48,280
it's awesome. So do you.

1001
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 3: With you being comfortable around them? Do you so if

1002
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:59,360
you go three states away and you have that calmness

1003
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,559
about you, do you think that helps you that they recognize.

1004
01:01:04,599 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 4: Some people say I'm marked. I don't believe in the

1005
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,039
marketing thing. I think it's how you carry yourself and

1006
01:01:10,079 --> 01:01:13,119
your thoughts, and I think they pick up on that.

1007
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:15,800
They pick up on how you carry yourself and how

1008
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,199
you act whether you've interacted with one somewhere else before.

1009
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,119
So they're real smart on picking up on that stuff.

1010
01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. You're you're like a

1011
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:31,719
teacher here tonight, Bruce. I've got questions. So I feel

1012
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,079
like after I spoke to one that was about forty

1013
01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:38,199
yards away, knew what it was, My son knew what

1014
01:01:38,239 --> 01:01:43,000
it was unmistakable, and I held my hands up, had

1015
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:45,559
my dear rifle, you know, my strapped over my back

1016
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:50,679
and spoke to it calmly and thanked it for letting

1017
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,679
us share the land. And we're leaving. You can you

1018
01:01:54,719 --> 01:01:58,119
can won't be back for a few days. It's all yours, Bruce,

1019
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:02,000
after that happened, everything's gotten weirder in a good way.

1020
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,159
And I think it's wanting to make contact with us,

1021
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,440
and I really do the things that have happened. What

1022
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,440
would you suggest I do next time I go in

1023
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:16,119
the area, Like should I talk in my head or

1024
01:02:16,159 --> 01:02:17,880
should I announce that we're there?

1025
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,599
Speaker 4: I always talk out loud, okay? And once you come

1026
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:24,719
into contact with if you talk out loud, they know

1027
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:31,599
your voice. You can take people with you. And sometimes

1028
01:02:31,639 --> 01:02:34,519
it might take three days, sometimes it might take two weeks,

1029
01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:39,119
it might take two seasons, two years before they'll step

1030
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:41,159
back out and let you see them because you brought

1031
01:02:41,159 --> 01:02:45,360
somebody with you. But they already know your intentions. Your

1032
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:50,000
intentions are good. They have no problems with you. So

1033
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:55,079
even with a weapon, when you throw your hands up

1034
01:02:55,159 --> 01:03:01,719
like that and showing respect, then what you want to

1035
01:03:01,719 --> 01:03:04,840
do when you go back in there to that certain

1036
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,960
area and you know they're still there, is you want

1037
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:15,960
to show respect, even make them a reef, a virone

1038
01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:19,719
reef and hang it up. And then if they give

1039
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,639
you one in return, and they're ready to meet, and

1040
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,000
you've got to be ready because this is going to

1041
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:30,760
be very hard on your nervous system, because they'll step

1042
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,840
right out within three feet of you and you think,

1043
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,119
oh boy, well I'm dead.

1044
01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:41,599
Speaker 3: But no, it's hard not to think that because Bruce

1045
01:03:41,679 --> 01:03:44,840
and Amanda know how big they are. I know how

1046
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,920
big they are, and you can't help but have a

1047
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,039
little fear. So after I did that, after I acknowledge

1048
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:55,079
that we knew there's been a lot of things. The

1049
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,440
first thing it did in twenty twenty was throw a

1050
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,400
rocket that's trying to run us out. But after we

1051
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,800
kept going back, and after I acknowledge that, like, hey,

1052
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:06,559
I know you're there, and we're not scared. Neither one

1053
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:11,719
of us were scared. The next encounter, he was coming

1054
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,719
across the ridge and he and what confused me is

1055
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,119
if a pressure is sneaking up on you, or if

1056
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:20,039
you're sneaking Bruce, if you're sneaking up on a deer,

1057
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:21,840
you're not gonna say, hey, dear, we're coming. I'm coming.

1058
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,119
I'm gonna get you. So this thing vocalized and then

1059
01:04:25,559 --> 01:04:28,320
seven or eight minutes later it vocalized again, and it's

1060
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,119
closer to us, and I looked at Peyton, I said,

1061
01:04:31,239 --> 01:04:34,239
is he letting us know he's coming? What's going on

1062
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,280
here because I don't know. That's why I like talking

1063
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:41,360
to people like you. And then it's almost like it's

1064
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,800
become cordial. You know. What I'm saying is that makes sense, Like,

1065
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,559
h he knows we're not there to hurt him, right.

1066
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:53,039
Speaker 4: Generally when they do the rock throwing, they're not throwing

1067
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:56,400
at you. It might land a few people where it

1068
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,079
gets to you. It might go over your head, it

1069
01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:01,719
might go to the left or the right. He wants

1070
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,639
you to stop because you're messing up his hunting, or

1071
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,559
you scared one of the clan members.

1072
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and I figure too, like, you know, you

1073
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,599
could have a pretty good thing going and then some

1074
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,440
hunter do something stupid and kind of mess it up

1075
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:24,000
a little bit. But man, that's thank you for That's uh,

1076
01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:32,119
it's a feeling. I can't explain it, y'all. Going from

1077
01:05:32,159 --> 01:05:36,480
being terrified or at first being confused terrified and all that,

1078
01:05:36,519 --> 01:05:39,800
and now things are happening where I'm like, wait a minute,

1079
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,400
I'll tell you what happened. My son took a picture

1080
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,760
coming out. We go in one way, come out the

1081
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,679
other way every time, and in the trail it's not

1082
01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:52,679
really a trail, but where we come down at the

1083
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,199
edge of the field and where the woods stop. It's

1084
01:05:56,199 --> 01:05:58,119
where we walk. He sent me a picture there was

1085
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:02,320
a cow jaw bumped mandible that had been broken where

1086
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,880
you know, there's a place where his uncle pulls up

1087
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,719
you know, dead animals and lets the animals take care

1088
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,400
of it. Well, there it was stuck up in the ground.

1089
01:06:12,639 --> 01:06:14,079
It was stuck in the ground about three or four

1090
01:06:14,079 --> 01:06:15,960
inches and was here right in the middle of the trail.

1091
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,719
This was after this other these other interactions. He sent

1092
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,119
a picture and he's looking around. He's like me, it

1093
01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:28,079
wasn't an accident whatever, or whoever did it wanted him. No,

1094
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,119
I'm not gonna say wanted him to see it. They

1095
01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:32,800
wanted it stuck up in the ground. That makes sense

1096
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:38,159
it So would that be something you're thinking that it

1097
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,159
might be acknowledging.

1098
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 4: It's opering friendship. If he's been in there more than

1099
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,000
several times, it knows who he is. Yeah, so that's

1100
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,239
a friendship thing. If they see he stuck it right

1101
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,880
up in the path in the ground, then that's the

1102
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,840
type of a friendship opering that is, that's if you

1103
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,119
see if you see one, just tell him to hold

1104
01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:07,400
his arm out and do this meaning friends and then uh,

1105
01:07:07,719 --> 01:07:09,519
they'll understand what you mean.

1106
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: Well, well, something, Bruce, something, he told me. You know,

1107
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,239
I always go with like these this intelligence and I

1108
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:25,000
was shocked her down with emotion and stuff. After that happened, Bruce,

1109
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:27,679
I might have told this on y'all show, but this

1110
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,320
is this allt is tying together. Uh. He went in

1111
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,800
and right before daylight, he had his headlamp on and

1112
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,320
this thing's waiting on him, and so Peyton didn't know

1113
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,159
what to do. I wasn't there, he's and he told

1114
01:07:40,239 --> 01:07:42,119
him out loud. I said, go on, I'm not here

1115
01:07:42,159 --> 01:07:45,000
after you. I mean, dear hunting, go do what you're doing.

1116
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,280
And this thing turns around and gives this know like

1117
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,320
it was disappointed, like well, like dang it, And wait

1118
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,519
a minute, Peyton, this is weird. This thing is trying

1119
01:07:55,519 --> 01:07:59,400
to contact us. So anyway, thank you for We'll continue

1120
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,800
to ask you. But when I get around people that

1121
01:08:03,119 --> 01:08:07,159
have this experience, I'm so curious on what we're experiencing

1122
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,199
that I try to tie together. And I appreciate it,

1123
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,320
but yeah, go ahead. I'm so sorry. It's just I'm

1124
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,399
excited to talk to you.

1125
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,119
Speaker 4: Well, one of my first well I'll give you my

1126
01:08:19,159 --> 01:08:25,920
first dog man encounter. I was hunting. I was go ahead, No,

1127
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:27,079
I didn't know.

1128
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:29,199
Speaker 3: I just I'm thinking about leaving while you took a

1129
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,119
tell a story. It scared it.

1130
01:08:33,079 --> 01:08:38,279
Speaker 4: Well, this ain't too bad. The first I was deer

1131
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:42,520
hunting in a tree stan uh in the New Midicine

1132
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:48,640
community of Smith County, on my farm, and after daylight

1133
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:53,720
I've seen a big dog coming around the hill towards me. Well,

1134
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,640
the closer a guy. I realized that that's not a dog,

1135
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,960
so I look through my scope at it. It was

1136
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,680
a woolf and then when it got down within twenty

1137
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:11,199
five yards of me, it had the features the front

1138
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:16,720
legs and hands of a man. So I had a big,

1139
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:23,319
muscular front arms on it. And it was probably about

1140
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,239
eight foot long with his tail two thirds the length

1141
01:09:26,279 --> 01:09:30,760
of his body. So you know you're talking eleven foot

1142
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,680
all together or better.

1143
01:09:33,079 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1144
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 4: So he had gigantic hands, and I was using the

1145
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,520
two forty three. This thing is a monster. You know,

1146
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,680
this thing is big. I don't. I'm pretty sure I

1147
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,439
could kill it with the two forty three. But if

1148
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,720
I don't get a kill shot and drop it, yeah,

1149
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,840
we've all shot right, we've all shot there. That's run

1150
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,439
one hundred yards before they fell dead. You know, just

1151
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,159
imagine shooting something like that.

1152
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,399
Speaker 3: And he's not talking about a mishot. He's talking about like, uh,

1153
01:10:08,199 --> 01:10:09,359
heart gune shot, they'll.

1154
01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:17,359
Speaker 4: Run on yeah, heart lung yea. So I watched him

1155
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:20,479
some more. He stared at me. He figured where I

1156
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,640
was at, and he stared at me. And when he

1157
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,279
took off running, he galloped like a horse. He didn't

1158
01:10:26,359 --> 01:10:29,119
run like a guy ode or a woolf. He galloped

1159
01:10:29,159 --> 01:10:33,640
like a horse. So I was a little bit unnerved

1160
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,159
with that one. So I said, I'm gonna stay up

1161
01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:38,159
here in the stand a little while before I come down,

1162
01:10:38,319 --> 01:10:44,560
make for everything clear. Even though I could see the

1163
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,960
fields to the left and the right of me, I

1164
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,239
could see real good. Well. I stayed up there, probably

1165
01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:54,159
a good hire and a half. I come down, and

1166
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:57,600
I've got my backpack and stuff, and I started around

1167
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,319
the tree, and just right below the tree behind me

1168
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:03,760
as a wet spot on the ground. He had circled

1169
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,880
me and walked through that, and I didn't know what.

1170
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,479
Oh my, So the only thing I could try to

1171
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:17,720
measure his back paul prints, his front paw hands was

1172
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,800
actually hands. So I had some Beanie Weenies and stuff

1173
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,159
like that in my backpack, I term miss stuff like that.

1174
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,039
And I had a paper plate, so I set the

1175
01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:33,439
paper plate over his paws, his back paws, and that

1176
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,239
paper plate like, uh, the paws liked about a half

1177
01:11:37,279 --> 01:11:39,880
inch to three quarter was inch being as big as

1178
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:45,399
that plate. And that's a standard size paper plate. Yeah.

1179
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,039
Speaker 9: Wow, So it's crazy he was able to sneak up

1180
01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:52,119
on you like that. And right the woods was as quiet,

1181
01:11:52,199 --> 01:11:54,520
was quiet more than or more?

1182
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,119
Speaker 4: Yes, all I did not hear.

1183
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 3: So, Bruce, what goes through your head? You know? Bigfoot's real?

1184
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:07,359
And have you have you heard anything about stranger creatures

1185
01:12:07,399 --> 01:12:09,960
before this? Or what's going through your head sitting in

1186
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,079
that tree stand?

1187
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 4: Well, at that time, they were called werewolves, you know,

1188
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,720
and I'm thinking, okay, maybe I've seen something supernatural here, right,

1189
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,399
you know, I don't know. And then I had some

1190
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:32,840
more encounters with these uh were wolves. Later I found

1191
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:37,439
out they were called dog men. And I was gen saying, honey,

1192
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:44,880
and uh. It was about the twenty fifth or twenty

1193
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:50,119
sixth of September, and as I was going around this

1194
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:54,399
mountain bluff, there's a high bluff to my left, and

1195
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,279
when I come across the holler and cut across that

1196
01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:01,159
point to see that bluff, there was a dog man

1197
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:06,079
standing on that bluff with red glowing eyes, and he

1198
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,239
spotted me right, He spotted me before I spotted him,

1199
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:14,399
so he was looking directly at me. And then right

1200
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,159
in front of me, of three or four feet was

1201
01:13:16,199 --> 01:13:21,199
this monster's popular tree, probably three foot thick. So I

1202
01:13:21,319 --> 01:13:24,479
ised him behind that poplar tree, trying to watch him. Well,

1203
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,720
he jumped off that bluff and made a wide berth

1204
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,560
around that poplar tree where I was hid. But when

1205
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,560
he come around the lower side of that tree where

1206
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,000
I could see, his eyes had went from red to

1207
01:13:38,119 --> 01:13:39,079
a amber gold.

1208
01:13:40,319 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 9: Interesting, and they were emitting their own light, like light shine.

1209
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 10: On it or anything.

1210
01:13:47,119 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like a real dim light. So I

1211
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,880
eased out there and I got back to the top

1212
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,960
of the mountain and he's following me. So when I

1213
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,279
get to the top of the mountain, there's a hay

1214
01:14:05,319 --> 01:14:07,720
build up here, and they had cut the hay, so

1215
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,319
the hay it wasn't four or five inches tall, They

1216
01:14:11,359 --> 01:14:14,680
had just brafially cut the hay. So I said, if

1217
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,520
I can get in the middle of this bitchy seventy

1218
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,600
five acre haybuild. I might be able to get to

1219
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,640
my vehicle without this thing attacking me. And all I

1220
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,279
had on me was a snake killer. So I get

1221
01:14:27,319 --> 01:14:29,720
myself right in the center of this haybild, and I'm

1222
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,680
walking a few steps, talking out loud, watching it all

1223
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:38,199
around me. Nothing didn't seem I get to my car.

1224
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:42,640
Right before I get into my car, I'm looking around.

1225
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,760
Nothing didn't seem. So when I get my car, I

1226
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,319
keep my car, my keys to my car under a

1227
01:14:50,359 --> 01:14:52,600
towel in the front seat, and when I sit down

1228
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,239
in the bucket seat, I just reached under my figh

1229
01:14:55,279 --> 01:14:57,800
and get my keys. When I reached under my figh

1230
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,239
to get my keys, put them in the niche and

1231
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:04,119
turned ignition on boom. Something hit the side of my car.

1232
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:08,960
Mm hmmm. So I look up because I'm looking down

1233
01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:12,199
starting a car. I look up and there's this massive

1234
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:16,880
hand I called a paul massive hand on the front

1235
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:23,600
windshield on the driver's side. His other hand was right

1236
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:28,359
about right above my outside mirror on the driver's side,

1237
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,920
and it tears down my mirror and my windshield is

1238
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,319
cracking and pushing in mm hmm.

1239
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 10: So my gosh.

1240
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 4: So I've got my car started. I know I've got

1241
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,920
to get turned around. So I put it reverse real

1242
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:46,920
quick and turning around. When went off of this this

1243
01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:50,239
uh uh through the gate where they took the hay

1244
01:15:50,279 --> 01:15:54,039
in and out and hit this sort of a creek gravel,

1245
01:15:54,119 --> 01:16:00,159
red dirt road. Soon as I come out, uh, I

1246
01:16:00,159 --> 01:16:02,359
had to slow up to make the turn. When I

1247
01:16:02,359 --> 01:16:06,239
slowed up, he jumped on top of my car. So

1248
01:16:06,319 --> 01:16:11,079
I went just a few I can't. This happened so quick.

1249
01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:13,680
It could have been ten yards, it could have been

1250
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,880
fifty yards. As I started around the curve, I just

1251
01:16:18,279 --> 01:16:20,800
sped up as quick as fast as I could without

1252
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,800
losing the car, and slammed the brakes and turned the

1253
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:28,439
wheel and slung him off. Well, from there, it's eighteen

1254
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,840
miles to my house. So I go out of there.

1255
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,119
I hit a state road. I get behind school buses

1256
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:40,880
and by this time even it's three point thirty, so

1257
01:16:42,279 --> 01:16:44,560
I'll go all the way to the house. I get

1258
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,520
to the house, I'm still processing this. It doesn't get

1259
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,279
dark till like eight forty five something like that, and

1260
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,960
I'm sitting there cliner. After I took a share and

1261
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,760
I've made a cup of copye and stuff, and I'm

1262
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,319
just sitting there thinking about, Now, what did I say?

1263
01:17:02,399 --> 01:17:05,520
How in the world did this dog man's eyes go

1264
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,800
from red to amber gold? Okay, now he was an

1265
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,279
odd color. He had one whole side of him that

1266
01:17:12,399 --> 01:17:15,239
was buckskin color. The rest of him was black.

1267
01:17:16,239 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 10: Interesting.

1268
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:24,079
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm sitting here trying to unwind, to

1269
01:17:24,119 --> 01:17:27,840
be honest with and figure out what that's.

1270
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,119
Speaker 3: Two different types of camouflage turned one.

1271
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 4: Way right right?

1272
01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

1273
01:17:33,399 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm sitting there and it gets dark maybe nine, nine, fifteen,

1274
01:17:41,079 --> 01:17:45,439
nine thirty, I can't really remember. And I've got a

1275
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:52,079
mountain cur feist. He's probably fifteen to twenty pounds. Ain't

1276
01:17:52,079 --> 01:17:57,760
scared of nothing. Best world dog abrons. I'm sitting in

1277
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,640
my recliner and the way my driveway comes into my house,

1278
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:04,600
I can see anybody that pulls into my driveway, and

1279
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,239
it's nighttime. Naturally they have their headlights on make it

1280
01:18:07,239 --> 01:18:11,319
even easier. Well, I'm sitting there and my dog's at

1281
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:15,159
the back of the house barking, but he's barking like

1282
01:18:15,239 --> 01:18:17,760
it's somebody that pulled up. We all have them dogs,

1283
01:18:18,399 --> 01:18:20,760
country dogs. They bark a certain way, you know, if

1284
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,039
it's an animal or a person pulled up or something.

1285
01:18:25,399 --> 01:18:28,600
And so I said, well, somebody's pulled up and they've

1286
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,520
got by me, and I'll go to the back door

1287
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,479
and flip the poor pat porch slight on. I opened

1288
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,800
the main door and pushed the screen door opened the

1289
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,199
dog room between my legs and the house. I was like, whoa,

1290
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:42,640
you know, he ain't never done this before. He's not

1291
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,279
a house dog. You can't keep him in the house,

1292
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:52,279
you know, And he's my hunting dog. So I go

1293
01:18:52,359 --> 01:18:54,079
back and I get a flash light and I walk

1294
01:18:54,119 --> 01:18:56,560
out there and I look around nothing. There ain't nobody there,

1295
01:18:57,119 --> 01:19:01,359
and of course someone what secured this dog? He's never

1296
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:06,399
done this. Well, he wants back out, so I let

1297
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,359
him out to front. Well. I sat back down on

1298
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:16,920
my recliner. I wasn't sitting there seven eight minutes maybe,

1299
01:19:18,039 --> 01:19:21,079
and he just lets out to squall like something is

1300
01:19:21,159 --> 01:19:28,800
turning him apart. So I keep a shotgun behind my couch.

1301
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,680
I reached and got my shotgun and mean my recliner,

1302
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,960
the ear lazy boy recliner. I got a table there

1303
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,199
that's a stands and it's the drawer on it. I

1304
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:40,000
got my shelves in it. I reached it and got

1305
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,760
my sheld and I loaded a gun. When I opened

1306
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:47,560
that door and pushed my storm door open, my dog

1307
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,319
run in about knocked me down, got me out guard,

1308
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:54,960
knocked me off my balance, and I stepped out there

1309
01:19:56,199 --> 01:19:59,680
and there was a dog man on two legs standing there.

1310
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:02,640
Well it was it was the same one I seen

1311
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,640
you in the woods earlier. So I was like, well,

1312
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,560
we're too close. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna kill

1313
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,199
him with a shotgun. So I was, well, i'll shoot

1314
01:20:14,239 --> 01:20:16,399
it up in there. I just shot there, and you

1315
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:18,680
have to process all this in the middle of second,

1316
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,119
you know. So I shot there. He come down on

1317
01:20:22,199 --> 01:20:25,359
all boards and took off running, and he went across

1318
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,720
my garden and into the woods as well. He won't

1319
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:32,960
be back. Well, I go back in the house and

1320
01:20:33,159 --> 01:20:35,800
just a minute or two the dogs want back out.

1321
01:20:38,279 --> 01:20:40,239
But then all of a sudden, he just stops and

1322
01:20:40,279 --> 01:20:44,640
he starts going from room to room and he's just

1323
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,239
acting all weird, and I'm like, well, this this dog

1324
01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:50,279
man scared him to death. You know, I didn't think

1325
01:20:50,319 --> 01:20:53,119
he was scared anything. When he gets to my bedroom,

1326
01:20:53,600 --> 01:21:00,000
it's a norse facing window. He starts whining and grabbed

1327
01:21:00,319 --> 01:21:04,640
at the same time, backing up, sitting down, moved. Then

1328
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,479
he'd moved towards the winder, do the same thing back up.

1329
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:14,399
I was like, well, something, something, this thing's come back. Well,

1330
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,640
I've got a window facing the east in the bedroom.

1331
01:21:18,319 --> 01:21:21,479
He moves over to that east space and winder and

1332
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,600
does the same thing. He starts growling, starts showing his teeth,

1333
01:21:26,119 --> 01:21:30,560
but then he'll back up and whine. And I said, well,

1334
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,680
and I still got the shotgun in my hands. It's loaded,

1335
01:21:35,319 --> 01:21:37,680
and I said, well, I'm gonna go out and slip

1336
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,520
out the back door. I got me a better flashlight,

1337
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,640
and the dog was focused on that east space and winder.

1338
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,359
He wasn't moving, he was just locked right there. So

1339
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,520
I walked out the back door real easy and come

1340
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,239
around the corner of the house where I could see

1341
01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:57,039
my bedroom window, and there this massive rascal was. He

1342
01:21:57,079 --> 01:22:01,000
had his paws upon my gutter, you know, his broad

1343
01:22:01,079 --> 01:22:07,239
hands up on my gutter, and he's he could hear you,

1344
01:22:07,359 --> 01:22:12,000
he could hear my dog. And now keep in mind,

1345
01:22:12,039 --> 01:22:15,199
to show you how close this is, eight to twelve feet,

1346
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,359
I shot him in the side with a shotgun. Okay,

1347
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,880
he took off. He come down and took off on

1348
01:22:23,119 --> 01:22:29,199
all fours and took off. I said, well, maybe won't

1349
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:32,439
be back tonight. So I stayed up all night and

1350
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,279
next morning, right after daylight, I made me a pot

1351
01:22:36,319 --> 01:22:39,760
of coffee and we got a rocker glider on the

1352
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,800
front porch. I walked out there and sat down on

1353
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:49,439
a rocker glidder again processing all this, and I heard

1354
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,119
a coyots squaw. Then I heard him holler, and I

1355
01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:58,000
was like, so, the sun's coming up from the east.

1356
01:22:58,319 --> 01:23:00,199
So I eased into the woods and I got on

1357
01:23:00,239 --> 01:23:03,039
the back side of a tree where the shade is

1358
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,399
because it's coming up from the east and it's shading

1359
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,960
the west side of the tree. So I hunk her

1360
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,960
down there and I watched, and sure enough, he's up

1361
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,520
in the top of a tree. So I turned around,

1362
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,079
like he's back to the house, and I get my

1363
01:23:16,119 --> 01:23:19,159
two forty three rifle. And I had bought a fresh

1364
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:22,159
box of shells a day or two before that, and

1365
01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:27,239
it held three rounds at a time. So I got

1366
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:29,119
back down there. I found me another tree where I

1367
01:23:29,159 --> 01:23:30,880
could get in the shade where he couldn't see me,

1368
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,680
and I started shooting at him in the top of

1369
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,520
the tree, not to hit him, but to try to

1370
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,680
get him down, because you got to keep this in

1371
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,520
mind at this time, he's not hurt anybody, you know.

1372
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,000
So it was you know, what do you say when

1373
01:23:47,039 --> 01:23:49,239
you shoot a dog man and kill a dog man?

1374
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,840
Or if I shoot one and don't kill him, I'm

1375
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,239
going to have my hands full. And I've got a

1376
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,199
print back across the woods, the yard and the garden

1377
01:23:58,239 --> 01:24:00,800
back to the house, you know, just to get away

1378
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,680
from it, which wasn't going to happen. So I kept

1379
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,760
shooting at him, and he finally come out down the

1380
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:09,399
tree between twenty feet from the ground and jumped and

1381
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:11,760
he went down to heel a little piece and went

1382
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,920
up another tree and I shot right above his head

1383
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:18,159
into the bark bark blew. He fell back down hit

1384
01:24:18,199 --> 01:24:20,920
the spring branch. This time was going down the spring branch,

1385
01:24:21,359 --> 01:24:24,439
and I was shooting at him and reloading. And when

1386
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,399
i'd hit the water and the mud and stuff in

1387
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,359
the spring branch would blow up on him, he'd get

1388
01:24:28,359 --> 01:24:32,000
a little bit quicker. So I kept after him, and

1389
01:24:32,039 --> 01:24:37,840
when we went across two maybe three ridges before I

1390
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,439
let up off of him, and I've never heard nothing

1391
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:41,479
out of that one since.

1392
01:24:43,159 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, reasoning, I laughed, I've seen I've had to

1393
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,960
do codies like that. I didn't want them around, but

1394
01:24:51,039 --> 01:24:53,199
I didn't really want to hurt them either. And you're

1395
01:24:53,199 --> 01:24:55,159
talking about throwing hot lead at him and the gravels

1396
01:24:55,239 --> 01:24:59,840
hitting them and they catch another gear they start digging.

1397
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,520
So a picture in this as you're telling this story.

1398
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:08,960
Uh but good gracious, And so what about what about

1399
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,399
other people in the area. People come to you, Yes,

1400
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,800
that's seen seen this? Did any of them see the

1401
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,640
same one with the color variation?

1402
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,079
Speaker 4: No? I had one, the same one that was entirely

1403
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:26,640
buckskin color, like the color of a deer.

1404
01:25:28,079 --> 01:25:31,239
Speaker 3: See. See, I'm thinking, because I don't know, when you

1405
01:25:31,279 --> 01:25:34,159
see all these pictures of these AI pictures of stuff

1406
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:37,920
and dog men, they're black. Now I'm thinking these degum

1407
01:25:38,319 --> 01:25:42,159
cut hay fields and these sage brushed fields and all

1408
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:44,920
this something like that could lay down and you walk

1409
01:25:45,039 --> 01:25:45,520
right by it.

1410
01:25:46,079 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, wow.

1411
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:53,159
Speaker 9: Good gracious do it all the time with that color pattern?

1412
01:25:53,279 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 10: So why not?

1413
01:25:56,199 --> 01:25:59,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we've we've got hands stuff and mowedem

1414
01:25:59,319 --> 01:26:02,920
and elderman a you know, deer foon.

1415
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,399
Speaker 3: Uh So Garry said that the dog men heasta always

1416
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,720
buckskin color too. Out in Oklahoma, I'm assuming where he's from.

1417
01:26:11,399 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1418
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 3: Wow.

1419
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 4: And then then I was in Pickett County and I

1420
01:26:21,079 --> 01:26:24,600
was off the top of a huge mountains long waist

1421
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:30,279
to the bottom. Ah, you're you're by yourself. If something

1422
01:26:30,279 --> 01:26:34,239
goes wrong. There is no help, there's no sell phone,

1423
01:26:34,279 --> 01:26:40,119
there's nothing. I mean, you're just had. And I'm coming

1424
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:42,800
around and I find this exceptionally why a deer trail.

1425
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,359
I'm like, wow, you know this is why to be

1426
01:26:45,399 --> 01:26:51,359
a deer trail. And I'm thinking, I don't see any

1427
01:26:51,359 --> 01:26:55,359
deer tracks in it. Uh, I don't see any bear

1428
01:26:55,479 --> 01:27:00,359
tracks in it. And so I'm gonna follow and see

1429
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:03,359
where it goes. So I follows around and I come

1430
01:27:03,399 --> 01:27:06,720
across the point and a grape vine coming off of

1431
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:11,079
a tree. I see this little creature weighs probably fifteen pounds,

1432
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:15,199
crawling down this grape vine and I walk up. I

1433
01:27:15,279 --> 01:27:18,600
walk up to it, and it's the weirdest thing I

1434
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:25,479
ever seen. And I've got gloves in my panty pack,

1435
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,119
and I take one of myle instead of putting it on,

1436
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:30,119
I put it in front of my hand, and it's coming.

1437
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:33,000
When it gets down low enough on the vine, I

1438
01:27:33,039 --> 01:27:36,159
can stick my hand up to it. It doesn't growl, bark,

1439
01:27:36,319 --> 01:27:40,520
or make any aggressive, but it's a puppy. And I'm like,

1440
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,000
what in the world's a puppy doing this far back?

1441
01:27:43,039 --> 01:27:48,199
I mean, there's no way it can survive. And so

1442
01:27:48,319 --> 01:27:50,119
he come on down that vine a little bit. And

1443
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:51,920
I'm talking about a big vine that you cut and

1444
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,000
can swing out over the hollers on right.

1445
01:27:54,279 --> 01:27:57,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've almost killed myself with those before when.

1446
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 10: Trying to place on him.

1447
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,239
Speaker 3: I was Yeah, I was always one that broke.

1448
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 4: So, uh, I pick him up. He's not aggressive at all.

1449
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,520
I set him down in my lap and I'm looking

1450
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:18,600
him over. He's missing his tail, that's all bloody. I

1451
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,760
don't know if he got in an accident, something cut

1452
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:26,199
his tail off or what happened. And he doesn't have

1453
01:28:26,319 --> 01:28:30,479
hair on him. He's a fur ball, you know, just

1454
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:37,239
all fur real young yeah, yeah, so uh, I'm just

1455
01:28:37,319 --> 01:28:39,520
looking him over and I can't get over his front

1456
01:28:40,319 --> 01:28:48,960
uh uh legs. Uh again, he's got raccoon hands. You

1457
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:53,199
know that started when I seen that, that started hair

1458
01:28:53,279 --> 01:28:58,159
on my neck. Come up, there's a Mamma somewhere. Yeah,

1459
01:28:58,199 --> 01:28:59,159
so that was.

1460
01:28:59,119 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 9: My exact first thought when he said, because find it

1461
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:07,399
A straight puppy, like an actual canine puppy is one thing.

1462
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 10: But yeah, that where's Mama?

1463
01:29:11,199 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't be. Mama walks up. She thinks I

1464
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,960
tore her kid's tail off. I'm in trouble, right.

1465
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:22,359
Speaker 4: Right, that's all. So I'm setting there and examine. It's

1466
01:29:22,359 --> 01:29:24,760
in my lap, and I'm looking it over, and I'm realizing,

1467
01:29:25,319 --> 01:29:29,960
dog man puppy. M hm, it's gotta be. So I

1468
01:29:30,079 --> 01:29:33,279
take my thumb and my forepaen, and I raise his

1469
01:29:33,399 --> 01:29:38,079
upper lip up and I look in his mouth and

1470
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:41,760
his bottom teeth is three his tusk his cane irons

1471
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:46,640
are three inches long already, yes, And they go up

1472
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,960
into a gum into a hole behind his bottom cane

1473
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:53,359
ies his bottom. His top canines are hanging out the

1474
01:29:53,399 --> 01:29:56,560
bottom his bottom cane iines are going behind the top

1475
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:01,439
into the holes. So his mouth completely he shuts with

1476
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:05,800
the top ones hanging out. I'm going, good, gosh, what

1477
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,600
have I got here? So I pulled the bird back

1478
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:15,119
on his eyes to see what color they were, but

1479
01:30:15,319 --> 01:30:18,560
he didn't They were clear. They looked like glass marbles

1480
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,960
there was. There was a pupil of blood vein. No

1481
01:30:23,119 --> 01:30:25,720
whites around my eyes or nothing. It was just you

1482
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,600
could see a little white way in the back. But

1483
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,159
I believe that was part of his skull or his

1484
01:30:30,279 --> 01:30:36,039
brain or something. And so I set him down on

1485
01:30:36,079 --> 01:30:38,119
the ground out of my lap. After I see that,

1486
01:30:38,119 --> 01:30:40,760
that's sort of you know, it was a freaky out

1487
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,199
for a second or two, I.

1488
01:30:42,119 --> 01:30:45,560
Speaker 3: Would say, So it's freaking me out years later, sitting

1489
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:46,039
here listening.

1490
01:30:47,239 --> 01:30:51,119
Speaker 4: So I set him on the ground and he starts walking,

1491
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,640
but he's walking with his elbow in his front hands

1492
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:58,640
touching the ground. But his back end is normal, like

1493
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,279
a wolf. You know, he's got chips from a big

1494
01:31:03,079 --> 01:31:08,439
back paws, and he's got those long, incredibly long fingers

1495
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:13,560
and on his front and he's walking up in the

1496
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,039
printed leaves. Looks like a turkey bomb, you know, the

1497
01:31:17,039 --> 01:31:20,920
big end of the drumstick touching, and it narrows down

1498
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,319
to the elbow, and then he's got a bigger forearm.

1499
01:31:25,159 --> 01:31:28,720
And it was just a tremendous looking thing to see.

1500
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,199
Some I picked him back up and I see him

1501
01:31:32,199 --> 01:31:35,720
my lap and I start. I touched him between his

1502
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:41,960
ears there and he's because his ears were flopped and

1503
01:31:42,039 --> 01:31:44,880
when I touched him between the ears, they laid back

1504
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,119
even with his head, and I thought, wow, this is

1505
01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:53,600
this is this is crazy. Well, I set him back

1506
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,760
down in my lap and I'm getting my phone out

1507
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,399
because I'm gonna take a picture of this. Well, somewhere

1508
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:03,079
in there I heard the noise. I wasn't sure what

1509
01:32:03,119 --> 01:32:05,159
it was, and it may not have been anything but

1510
01:32:05,239 --> 01:32:09,520
me being on full alert, because you got it, when

1511
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,359
you're dealing with something like this, it's not scared as

1512
01:32:12,399 --> 01:32:14,680
common sense, you've got to be saved, right.

1513
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:15,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know.

1514
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 4: So I decided that might be a bad idea. It's

1515
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,039
time for me to get out of here. So I

1516
01:32:21,039 --> 01:32:22,800
picked him up and put him back on the vine

1517
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:28,560
and he started he on his front PAW's hands. He

1518
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,680
had fingernails just like we did, and they retracted and

1519
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,399
grabbed that vine. But he had the flat and nails

1520
01:32:36,399 --> 01:32:39,399
and fingers like we did. Well, right up here was

1521
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:45,039
his dew claw and it was a human thumb. So

1522
01:32:45,119 --> 01:32:46,920
that was the wildest thing I've ever seen.

1523
01:32:48,359 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 3: Okay, so something yeah, Eric, as if I was okay

1524
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,880
because you said something that, Okay, let me tell you.

1525
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,880
I don't know if I told you this, they've heard

1526
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,239
it before. But when I was THE'LBO the first time

1527
01:33:01,359 --> 01:33:04,960
and I found over thirty big foot tracks, different sizes

1528
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:10,119
on the way you can hear in the video. I

1529
01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:12,399
could see the tracks from like eighty yards away in

1530
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:15,319
the mud, and I'm walking over there and I look down,

1531
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,239
and when I say in the video, do they have

1532
01:33:18,319 --> 01:33:22,159
wolves here? Bruce, I saw the biggest canine track I've

1533
01:33:22,199 --> 01:33:25,439
ever seen in my life. You know what a number

1534
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:31,600
probably like a number eight iron skillet looks like, yeah, okay, okay,

1535
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:36,319
now it was definitely K nine okay, But here's the

1536
01:33:36,399 --> 01:33:40,159
problem with it. At the very back of it, about

1537
01:33:40,199 --> 01:33:43,880
four inches long, there was this appendage and it was

1538
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,239
about an inch and a half two inches deep on

1539
01:33:47,279 --> 01:33:50,199
the back side of that paw, and it looked like

1540
01:33:50,239 --> 01:33:52,680
it was part of the paw. And you're talking about

1541
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:57,520
like elbows and stuff touching, because I didn't know how

1542
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,920
this print was made, because it didn't make any sense

1543
01:34:00,319 --> 01:34:03,399
if it happened to be the biggest wolf ever, what

1544
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,720
is this thing that's part of it? It didn't make

1545
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,279
sense to me. Does that make sense to you that

1546
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,880
it had a I'd say it was about four inches long,

1547
01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:15,840
and it, yeah, it was. It was the weirdest looking

1548
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:17,000
thing I've ever seen.

1549
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a thumb, I call it. You know, if

1550
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,560
you if you actually had seen this dog man puppy,

1551
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,159
you would know it was a thumb. And it's a

1552
01:34:27,239 --> 01:34:29,560
human thumb. That's a wild thing about it.

1553
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,560
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, Erica. I went when he said that,

1554
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:40,840
because I've always wondered when you see a million deer

1555
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:45,159
tracks and when you see whatever, but there's something wrong

1556
01:34:45,239 --> 01:34:47,279
with one of them. You're like, oh, but it makes sense.

1557
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,199
That must have hurt its foot and you know this

1558
01:34:50,359 --> 01:34:52,520
is out this way or it might have must have

1559
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,560
been cut and the end of it, you know, like

1560
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,920
I couldn't make sense out of this track. First off,

1561
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,760
it was too big for anything, right, and then then

1562
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,800
it had that impression, but it was part of it.

1563
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,680
It wasn't like it was something else and it stepped

1564
01:35:07,319 --> 01:35:10,199
on it. It was all happened at the same time.

1565
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:14,079
So wow, and we were in the right place for

1566
01:35:14,159 --> 01:35:16,840
it too. But yeah, see, I you know, I'm like

1567
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:21,039
a lot of people, Bruce, I've dealt with I've dealt

1568
01:35:21,079 --> 01:35:26,560
with certain things, and you're talking about processing it and

1569
01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:29,199
it takes a while and then you move on to

1570
01:35:29,279 --> 01:35:32,439
the next part. But this this dog man thing, like

1571
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,520
we had some man chat, it's hard for people to

1572
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,359
wrap their head around because, like you said, we've seen

1573
01:35:39,399 --> 01:35:44,279
were wolves and movies. There are stories about werewolves, just

1574
01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:47,399
like there are Bigfoot. Amanda bringing up one hundred and

1575
01:35:47,399 --> 01:35:49,600
fifty year old stories where you can go back further

1576
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:57,640
with the werewolves and there they sound like fiction. But

1577
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:01,119
are they? And now now there's people or seeing things?

1578
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:05,720
But why do you why do you think some people

1579
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:09,800
see an The obvious answer is some people don't get

1580
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:14,119
out as much as others. But why do you think?

1581
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:18,000
Is it your energy? You think? Is it how you

1582
01:36:18,039 --> 01:36:22,920
care yourself? I mean the the only the one, uh

1583
01:36:23,319 --> 01:36:28,039
dog man that was mad, but the others I mean

1584
01:36:28,039 --> 01:36:29,960
that put I mean usually if you grab if you

1585
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:34,479
grab a wild kitten, m h and it's two pounds,

1586
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:37,640
it's gonna eat you up just by you know. It's

1587
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,960
happened to me before, so I know I'm qualified, you know.

1588
01:36:41,319 --> 01:36:44,119
But I was bleeding and screaming and he wouldn't let

1589
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:46,800
go of. I tried to he I thought I caught him,

1590
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:47,399
but he caught me.

1591
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 9: But anyway, you saying that Roger actually makes me think, Bruce,

1592
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,640
do you think that with having those glassy eyes like that,

1593
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,000
with no pupils or anything, and that it didn't really

1594
01:36:57,039 --> 01:36:57,760
respond to you?

1595
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 10: Do you think that?

1596
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:01,399
Speaker 9: And not trying to put words in your mouth or

1597
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,239
I'm just thinking out loud here, do you think that

1598
01:37:04,319 --> 01:37:07,279
maybe it was blind or was something was injured with it,

1599
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:10,119
or like maybe it was in shock from the injury

1600
01:37:10,159 --> 01:37:11,960
that it had that it were like I said, it

1601
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,159
didn't react.

1602
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 10: To you messing with it.

1603
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:18,359
Speaker 4: Uh, it wasn't blind. It could boller, It could botherer

1604
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,560
my glove, okay, and it could bother me. I think

1605
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:26,039
it was so young that the eyes weren't fully developed.

1606
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,239
Speaker 9: That's very true as well. I know it's like with

1607
01:37:29,359 --> 01:37:32,479
kittens and stuff. They're almost you know, they're blue black,

1608
01:37:33,119 --> 01:37:37,479
really glassy looking, even right after they first open up.

1609
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,039
Speaker 10: So very interesting.

1610
01:37:39,359 --> 01:37:43,399
Speaker 4: But the mother, the mother eventually caught up with me

1611
01:37:44,319 --> 01:37:48,199
and with her eyes. Then that made that sort of

1612
01:37:48,279 --> 01:37:53,520
changed my mind on a lot of things too. Uh.

1613
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,920
I put the I put the putt back in on

1614
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,359
the vine and let him go up the vine, and

1615
01:37:58,399 --> 01:38:02,319
I took off and I went across the point and

1616
01:38:02,399 --> 01:38:06,159
went into a holler and went up halfway on the

1617
01:38:06,199 --> 01:38:08,960
mountain side on that holler, and I heard a loud

1618
01:38:09,039 --> 01:38:13,039
scream which I recognized plight Off was a dog man.

1619
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,880
So I got me a spot there and I hid,

1620
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:24,119
and it come down the creek there and I was

1621
01:38:24,199 --> 01:38:27,279
hid and it it come down when I was on

1622
01:38:27,399 --> 01:38:30,319
all fours. When it come down, when it got directly

1623
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:34,239
even with me, it raised up and looked at me,

1624
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:39,079
and I couldn't figure out how it spotted me, So

1625
01:38:39,199 --> 01:38:42,279
I went behind a tree. As I started behind that tree,

1626
01:38:42,279 --> 01:38:46,119
it let out another scream. Well, I was got behind

1627
01:38:46,119 --> 01:38:49,399
that tree and I was looking behind the tree, and

1628
01:38:50,399 --> 01:38:55,399
it started coming up this hillside on two legs walking.

1629
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,560
I was like, oh, oh, I'm in trouble now. So

1630
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,159
I knew if I could make it to the top

1631
01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:05,079
of the hill, there was a bob war fence and

1632
01:39:05,119 --> 01:39:08,039
a Wooben warpence. A Wooben warpents was through a four

1633
01:39:08,119 --> 01:39:10,119
foot tall with a couple of strands of barbed war

1634
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:12,399
on top of it, and on the other side of

1635
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:16,239
that was a good ATV trail that was regularly used.

1636
01:39:16,279 --> 01:39:19,760
It was clean, and my vehicle was sitting on another

1637
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:24,760
end of the mountain from that. So I come out

1638
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,079
behind that tree and started up and it let out this.

1639
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,319
What I heard was low to high. But by the

1640
01:39:31,359 --> 01:39:34,720
time I heard the low, it had sapped me. So

1641
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,359
I started. My throat felt like it was swelling. I

1642
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,439
knew it wasn't. I was breathing normal, but it felt

1643
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:45,039
like I couldn't breathe. I was getting light headed, sick

1644
01:39:45,079 --> 01:39:48,079
at my stomach, so I just kept pushing. I got

1645
01:39:48,079 --> 01:39:51,359
on my hands and knees going up that mountain, and

1646
01:39:51,399 --> 01:39:54,039
then I crossed the fence. And when I got in

1647
01:39:54,119 --> 01:40:00,520
that heavily used woor wheeler ATV trail each and got

1648
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:04,079
my gun. I was wearing forestry pants on, zipped inside

1649
01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:07,720
zipper and pulled my gun out. Well, this massive thing

1650
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,319
gets to this fence. Now, this fence is a four

1651
01:40:10,399 --> 01:40:14,039
foot moving warpence for two strands of barber on top

1652
01:40:14,119 --> 01:40:17,000
of it. It steps across it like me and you're

1653
01:40:17,039 --> 01:40:21,520
stepping across a toy in the floor. So I far

1654
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:23,720
around off in the area because I got a snake

1655
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:27,399
killer a little twenty two and it didn't pay a

1656
01:40:27,399 --> 01:40:32,640
bit of attention to it. So I know, So I

1657
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:36,000
know in a sapling thicket there a briar thick in

1658
01:40:36,039 --> 01:40:38,600
a sapling thicket. There's an old house and a barn.

1659
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,880
So I made a bee line to that old house.

1660
01:40:42,319 --> 01:40:44,079
I got in that house, and I got in the

1661
01:40:44,119 --> 01:40:45,880
corner in one of the bedrooms, where I could see

1662
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,600
two doors and two windows, and I said, now, if

1663
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:52,680
it comes in here, I've got this eleven shot automatic.

1664
01:40:53,399 --> 01:40:57,119
I've got ten rounds left in it. If I can

1665
01:40:57,159 --> 01:41:00,800
make an eyeball shot. If it comes after me, I'll

1666
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:04,760
try to drop it. I was in there for forty

1667
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:10,520
five minutes. Nothing. Birds went to chirping. Everything. Okay, I'm

1668
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,720
good to go. Well, I go without that bedroom, and

1669
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,000
I step out the side door, of course, keeping mind

1670
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:20,479
there's no doors and no windows left. So I stepped

1671
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,479
out that side door down on the big stone and

1672
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,600
stepped down in the yard. And when I got to

1673
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:31,399
the corner, there he stood, or should I say she stood.

1674
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:35,520
So I made a hard left and went back onto

1675
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:40,720
the four wheeler trail and followed the poor wheeler trail. Well,

1676
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:44,239
she got in the honeysuckles and then sappings and followed me,

1677
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,359
stayed even with me. When I got so far around there,

1678
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,359
I knew the next little mountain I crossed my truck

1679
01:41:52,359 --> 01:41:55,720
would be sitting there. So I was like, okay, just

1680
01:41:56,359 --> 01:41:59,479
keep talking out loud, don't show any peers, just don't

1681
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:03,439
look them in the eyes. Well, I'm down like this

1682
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:10,439
with my head down and probably ten twelve, fourteen feet

1683
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:16,079
from me to my right, I'm looking when I'm looking

1684
01:42:16,119 --> 01:42:19,600
down and looking over to watch it about midways, I

1685
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,520
wouldn't look it in the face. I seen two laser

1686
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,000
dots on you, about a half the size of a

1687
01:42:26,079 --> 01:42:30,279
coffee cup on my chest. Oh lord, And I was like,

1688
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:35,039
you know, I had my gun laying across me like this.

1689
01:42:36,039 --> 01:42:37,840
And then when I cut back over, I seen her

1690
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:39,880
head move and I look down and I seen the

1691
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:43,279
dots move. So every time her head would move, fews

1692
01:42:43,399 --> 01:42:48,159
look like laser dots would move. So I sped up,

1693
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,159
go ahead, right.

1694
01:42:50,279 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 3: So Hillary always asks great everybody asks great questions. But

1695
01:42:55,119 --> 01:42:57,279
like with the puppy or even with the mom, now,

1696
01:43:00,279 --> 01:43:04,239
do you feel like they're like organic or a combination

1697
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,000
of something? Like you know, you hear people talk about,

1698
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:12,119
well the military may have modified this or that, or

1699
01:43:12,399 --> 01:43:16,199
what is your take? Because you've got when you talk

1700
01:43:16,239 --> 01:43:19,000
about a little lasers hits you in the chest, you know,

1701
01:43:19,359 --> 01:43:23,720
you know, that the laser. No, it's not normal, and

1702
01:43:24,079 --> 01:43:28,000
the lasers are spread out with distance or whatever. So

1703
01:43:28,119 --> 01:43:32,680
her eyes you're kind of close and she's big. What

1704
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,439
do you think that is? I mean, I know I've

1705
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:39,319
read reports digging into this, not into science, and some

1706
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:45,079
human eyes we cannot see it with our eyes, but

1707
01:43:45,159 --> 01:43:51,159
they emanate light, small amounts of light. It's scientifically proven. Uh,

1708
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,279
but not all colors eyes do that. So when I

1709
01:43:54,319 --> 01:43:57,960
found that, I'm like, well, maybe maybe some of these

1710
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:02,560
things can do it because they're built different. What do

1711
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:04,960
you do you have any idea? I mean you might,

1712
01:44:05,039 --> 01:44:08,640
you might already have an idea, but what are these things?

1713
01:44:09,399 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 4: Well that one could have been part supernatural or it

1714
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,399
could have been somebody's asset, mean military.

1715
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 3: Because what's funny is no, it's not funny. But every

1716
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:24,600
time we have a meet and greet the LBL, and

1717
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,800
you know the stories from the LBL and all that,

1718
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:33,880
some terrible things have happened there. We we have every

1719
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:38,760
time we have military helicopters coming and checking on us,

1720
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:43,159
circling low. It's obvious that there we know they're there.

1721
01:44:43,239 --> 01:44:46,239
You cannot know they're there. And it hit me with

1722
01:44:46,319 --> 01:44:49,880
this weirdness and some of the stories that uh, like,

1723
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:56,319
like you just said, an asset, our dogs were acting weird.

1724
01:44:56,680 --> 01:44:59,760
This time, we had a few people my dog was

1725
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:03,199
acting and way out of character. Had a couple more

1726
01:45:03,239 --> 01:45:06,720
that was doing the same thing. And I'm thinking, well,

1727
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,880
are they keeping an eye on us like some people will.

1728
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,560
Why are they keeping an eye on us? Or are

1729
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,000
they protecting us from something?

1730
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 9: And if they're emitting the protecting their asset from something

1731
01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:17,600
or both?

1732
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:22,359
Speaker 3: Right, because everybody there was armed, I mean there's there

1733
01:45:22,399 --> 01:45:27,000
weren't many people there that wasn't uh, And yeah, so

1734
01:45:27,039 --> 01:45:29,960
could it be to keep a confrontation from Now this

1735
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,239
is spitballing, y'all, But this is from seeing things and seeing.

1736
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,960
Like Bruce has said before, his dog he knew, he

1737
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,159
knew his dog, he knew what his dog never did,

1738
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:42,079
and it reacted weird to this. My dog has reacted

1739
01:45:42,079 --> 01:45:45,520
weird to something real close to us, Uh, way out

1740
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:50,800
of character. And then I'm you know, squirrels in chat misty. Uh,

1741
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:54,600
the first time we were at LBL, I'm watching the animals.

1742
01:45:55,199 --> 01:45:59,479
There's your first line of defense. And her dog, shallow

1743
01:46:00,279 --> 01:46:03,880
whipped around and stiffened up and looked back into the

1744
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,520
You know, it's kind of like a saddle, a little

1745
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,319
draw back in there or whatever you want call it.

1746
01:46:09,039 --> 01:46:13,000
And I'm watching her and I told him, Heather, I said,

1747
01:46:13,079 --> 01:46:16,479
I need to go over here and tell them. I said,

1748
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,359
y'all need to keep an eye on her. And she

1749
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:24,880
was hearing something back there. So yeah, and Ninja, I

1750
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:29,560
know this sounds weird, but when you start like the

1751
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,119
subject's not weird enough, but here you are sitting you know,

1752
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:36,159
things exist. Then you start trying to connect the dots,

1753
01:46:36,159 --> 01:46:39,960
and it's it makes you feel crazy, you know. I mean,

1754
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,279
Bruce is sitting there petting up what he thinks is

1755
01:46:42,279 --> 01:46:45,840
a puppy and it's got, you know, it's got, you know,

1756
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,399
Oh my god, So what he I mean? I know

1757
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:55,199
it's impossible. People always ask questions that it's it's impossible

1758
01:46:55,239 --> 01:46:59,399
to answer. But you've been around these things, and you've

1759
01:46:59,399 --> 01:47:05,000
been around the sasquatch or the Bigfoot. Do they overlap

1760
01:47:05,039 --> 01:47:09,199
in your area? Are kind of enemies.

1761
01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:15,079
Speaker 4: Some in some some areas they will overlap, but here recently,

1762
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,359
meaning the last five or six years, especially since COVID

1763
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:24,199
or right before COVID, the the big butt will we'll

1764
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:28,840
twist the tree and put a twist in it, but

1765
01:47:29,079 --> 01:47:33,640
the dog man won't cross that twist. Now, if it's

1766
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:37,880
broke over uh, the other big butts and stuff, they

1767
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,640
don't have a problem with it. But I've noticed with

1768
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,359
the twist, when I come up on the twist, if

1769
01:47:43,399 --> 01:47:45,319
I'm tracking a dog man, I come up on the

1770
01:47:45,359 --> 01:47:49,119
twist and I'm I'm having to backtrack because he's moved.

1771
01:47:49,119 --> 01:47:50,800
He won't cross that twisted tree.

1772
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 3: Okay, So is there is there any have you noticed?

1773
01:47:55,960 --> 01:48:00,119
Like talking to people that's research for years and and

1774
01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:03,920
having private conversations and telling them what we found, I've

1775
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,479
started looking at these breaks and twists a little different

1776
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:15,239
because of things I've learned. I've noticed that if we've

1777
01:48:15,319 --> 01:48:18,279
come up on a local, y'all have locusts over there, right,

1778
01:48:18,319 --> 01:48:21,680
real hard, big thorns, and ain't nothing gonna reach in

1779
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,000
the locusts and break it with its hands, right, go,

1780
01:48:24,159 --> 01:48:28,720
how tough that is? Right, So Bruce knows we've had

1781
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:34,720
that happen a lot. And what I've noticed, just where

1782
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,199
we're at, if there's a break and the limb is

1783
01:48:37,239 --> 01:48:40,119
facing a certain way, you need to go look that way.

1784
01:48:42,319 --> 01:48:46,279
We found water sources, we found tree stands from other hunters,

1785
01:48:47,039 --> 01:48:50,880
you know, and it's almost like a directional in this area.

1786
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:54,920
I realized it could be different. We've started noticing patterns,

1787
01:48:56,199 --> 01:49:00,239
almost like a directional marker. But there's one I don't know, Ian,

1788
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,760
I don't know if you've ever seen this before, But

1789
01:49:02,920 --> 01:49:05,199
like a locust, you talk about the why in it

1790
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:08,479
in the in the branch. So you got one growing

1791
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,119
and has a y in it. It looks like something

1792
01:49:11,159 --> 01:49:14,680
took its hands and reached in those thorns, grabbed it

1793
01:49:15,359 --> 01:49:19,199
and snapped it down where it's both are pointing down.

1794
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:24,479
And usually the threat or what or what I perceived

1795
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:27,159
they would think of the threat is that way either

1796
01:49:27,399 --> 01:49:30,359
either side, you know. But have you ever seen the

1797
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:32,359
why breaks down like that?

1798
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen. I've seen the wires broken and ripped

1799
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:41,159
off and took and put in the ground in front

1800
01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:44,680
of cave systems and stuff. And that's your friendlier plan,

1801
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,880
a big butt okay, no aggressive ones.

1802
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:55,279
Speaker 3: So this this why break on this ridge. Uh, there's

1803
01:49:55,319 --> 01:49:57,760
been many over the past few years, but this is

1804
01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,479
where we've got the friendlier one.

1805
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 4: That's how earlier. Yeah, okay, all right, yeah, it's gonna

1806
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:08,840
be real friendly. They've accepted anytime you see the wise

1807
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:17,800
or the crosses, you know, stick crosses. Yeah, uh, gently

1808
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,640
the feather up on the mountains, you go, you see

1809
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:24,119
the wise. The closer down to the rivers, you'll i

1810
01:50:24,159 --> 01:50:28,920
mean EXAs, the closer down the rivers, you'll see the wise. Uh.

1811
01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:37,600
They're generally, uh, more human characteristics than they are animal.

1812
01:50:38,319 --> 01:50:41,159
Speaker 3: Well, we've got a good friend that's in Ohio. He's

1813
01:50:41,159 --> 01:50:43,760
been doing this for a pretty good while. He's really smart.

1814
01:50:44,279 --> 01:50:49,279
He's been mapping those structure breaks like you're talking about.

1815
01:50:49,319 --> 01:50:54,960
It's certain elevations. You're the second person i've heard say

1816
01:50:55,000 --> 01:51:00,119
that certain elevations, if you go far enough and stay

1817
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,800
at that elevation, you'll see another one. He said. He

1818
01:51:05,159 --> 01:51:07,399
doesn't know what it means, or he won't tell us,

1819
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:11,880
but he's noticed that pattern too, just like you have

1820
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:15,439
it at the different elevations, a different type of communication,

1821
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:21,199
either amongst themselves or whatever. There's so much, there's so much.

1822
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,159
Oh yeah, it's like a huge puzzle.

1823
01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:30,199
Speaker 4: And it's because it's because no two are the same.

1824
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,640
They're all different personalities. They're like us.

1825
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know exactly.

1826
01:51:37,159 --> 01:51:40,399
Speaker 4: That is if you have them, some that will build nestis,

1827
01:51:41,079 --> 01:51:47,199
some that will build uh what I call TP structures, Uh, Jim,

1828
01:51:47,279 --> 01:51:49,920
then when you run across the tepeech structures, it's got

1829
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,399
to be a massive one. Uh. That's where two clans

1830
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:57,600
get together and they marry out to keep them keep

1831
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,880
from inner breeding. So that tells you these things are smart.

1832
01:52:02,039 --> 01:52:04,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think I think that shocked me more

1833
01:52:04,319 --> 01:52:08,880
than anything, Bruce is, uh, finding out how smart they are,

1834
01:52:09,399 --> 01:52:13,800
because I'm like, you know what you said. I've had

1835
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,439
enough happen and talk to enough people that I'm just

1836
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:19,680
like you. Why wouldn't they be as different than us

1837
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:23,279
as us? Uh, you know we're me and you obviously

1838
01:52:23,279 --> 01:52:25,960
we're raised not far from each other because we talk alike.

1839
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,359
We have some some of the things you're saying. Uh,

1840
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:32,720
you know, I've been there, like with the tobacco and uh,

1841
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:34,760
you know, you just have bigger heels than I do.

1842
01:52:36,039 --> 01:52:39,039
But but uh, that's that's why I feel comfortable with

1843
01:52:39,079 --> 01:52:45,640
you because yeah, somebody said, Bruce is it's kind of comforting,

1844
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:50,119
But yeah, it's I want to talk to you more,

1845
01:52:50,159 --> 01:52:55,000
whether it's privately or you come back sometime, because it's

1846
01:52:55,039 --> 01:52:57,319
been when I when I met you, you know, on

1847
01:52:57,359 --> 01:53:02,560
the show a few weeks ago. Uh, Larry and Larry

1848
01:53:02,600 --> 01:53:05,000
and them didn't get to talk much because me and

1849
01:53:05,039 --> 01:53:13,119
Bruce was fast. I recognized pretty quickly. And one thing

1850
01:53:13,159 --> 01:53:16,520
I noticed, which everybody noticed is early on with you

1851
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,560
is the way you carry yourself and the calmness. And

1852
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:21,960
I know the training you've had and the things you've seen.

1853
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,920
I worked for the Sheriff's apartment for two years and

1854
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,279
because of that, I didn't continue because I wasn't built,

1855
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:33,119
uh mentally to handle some of that. And it's just

1856
01:53:34,319 --> 01:53:37,039
it's just amazing to me. We're coming up on two

1857
01:53:37,079 --> 01:53:40,560
hours and I Daniel said, yeah, that's true. He didn't

1858
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:46,279
get talking. Now, would you want to come back for

1859
01:53:46,359 --> 01:53:52,079
a part two? Sometimes? Yeah, yeah, this is this has

1860
01:53:52,119 --> 01:53:53,960
been great. I appreciate this.

1861
01:53:54,319 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I got a bunch I've got a bunch more.

1862
01:53:57,079 --> 01:53:59,640
I've got some of the worse. Uh my name was

1863
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:02,119
called in the middle of that coon hunting and stuff

1864
01:54:02,159 --> 01:54:03,640
like that. So there's a bunch more.

1865
01:54:04,399 --> 01:54:06,520
Speaker 3: And see I ran in the woods as a kid.

1866
01:54:07,119 --> 01:54:11,159
We'd have coon dogs or whatever, and before I knew

1867
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:15,239
about this stuff, you know, and it changed after that, y'all.

1868
01:54:15,279 --> 01:54:16,960
Thank y'all. I don't know what the gems are.

1869
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 9: Thank you it's something new with the with YouTube that

1870
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:24,439
they're they're doing kind of similar to like TikTok and stuff.

1871
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,920
Speaker 3: Okay, thank y'all, a window and blazer and the bino

1872
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:33,279
with the super chat. Thank y'all very much. So are

1873
01:54:33,319 --> 01:54:36,640
you and you're not far from Menville? You're probably closer

1874
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:37,800
than I am.

1875
01:54:38,079 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm probably oh our probably.

1876
01:54:42,159 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you're Yeah, you're closer. I'm about to Uh

1877
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:50,159
are you going to the the Crypticon down there in August?

1878
01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:52,720
You're gonna be there, Okay, I'll be there. Well, we'll

1879
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,119
have a table set up. So I want to do

1880
01:54:55,159 --> 01:54:58,199
this for Randy. Uh Randy's been nice to us, and

1881
01:54:58,359 --> 01:55:03,319
I absolutely love the thing that what they put on.

1882
01:55:04,039 --> 01:55:07,000
I feel comfortable there a lot of people, come y'all.

1883
01:55:07,039 --> 01:55:11,119
If y'all can show up on August eighth at nine

1884
01:55:11,159 --> 01:55:14,640
am to six pm at the Millier Recreation Center, mcmidville, Tennessee,

1885
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:19,520
you're gonna have a ton of people you can listen

1886
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,600
to and talk to. And even if you don't go

1887
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:23,479
listen to them, you can hang out and talk to

1888
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,760
me and maybe Amanda. Maybe we don't know if she's gonna.

1889
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 4: Be there yet.

1890
01:55:27,239 --> 01:55:29,439
Speaker 10: I'm still trying I'm still trying.

1891
01:55:29,199 --> 01:55:32,119
Speaker 3: To look forward to meeting you. We can talk about

1892
01:55:32,119 --> 01:55:37,680
some other stuff, you know. I have plenty of questions,

1893
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:41,279
like even like family stuff. How far are you from Smithville?

1894
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 4: I'm just north of Smithville, probably twenty minutes.

1895
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 3: So I've got I've got people I don't know family,

1896
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:54,239
Jets and Williams. Williams and my grandmother and grandfather left

1897
01:55:54,279 --> 01:55:58,159
there not together and met here and then got married.

1898
01:55:58,239 --> 01:56:00,960
So I have Williams and Jets and all kind of

1899
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,479
people I don't even know, uh that I'm kin to,

1900
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,840
I'm sure, but yeah, I might come up your way

1901
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,039
one time and we just have some coffee, and you know,

1902
01:56:09,239 --> 01:56:13,039
I don't want see no dog man for sure. But yeah,

1903
01:56:13,159 --> 01:56:15,359
thank you, thank you Bruce for being here. And and

1904
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:17,800
y'all check out Crypto Ring the Crypti Wrangler.

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01:56:18,439 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

1906
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 3: They're very nice people. Uh. I had a great time. Yeah, Yeah,

1907
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:28,760
it's it's Uh, it's fun. You see Larry Lutter and

1908
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:32,560
and chat and uh, I didn't know he was associated

1909
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:36,800
at the time. Uh. And when you when you find

1910
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:40,000
people that you're just sitting around talking about this stuff,

1911
01:56:40,199 --> 01:56:42,239
it's not we're not trying to you know, they don't

1912
01:56:42,239 --> 01:56:44,239
try to be flashy. We don't try to be flashy,

1913
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,079
just just sit like sitting around the fire talking or

1914
01:56:47,239 --> 01:56:50,000
on the front porch. And I ain't sitting on Bruce's

1915
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,520
front porch. I can tell you that. Yeah, no chuck

1916
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:56,319
out there, no no.

1917
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:59,680
Speaker 4: No no, but come up sometime we'll catch one riding.

1918
01:57:00,279 --> 01:57:04,319
Speaker 3: No, I'll be the one to call it now on

1919
01:57:04,359 --> 01:57:08,680
one for you. I'm out. I tell you what I

1920
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:13,000
would like to do. God, is that young gentleman that

1921
01:57:13,159 --> 01:57:15,199
was driving that night? Is he still around? Is he

1922
01:57:15,239 --> 01:57:15,760
still alive?

1923
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:18,479
Speaker 4: Ooh? I haven't heard anything out of him?

1924
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 3: And probably how did that affect his life?

1925
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:28,199
Speaker 4: Bruise I talked to his daddy probably eighteen nineteen years ago,

1926
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:34,800
and he said that instead of driving that way that

1927
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:38,600
road going to work, he would drive fifteen miles. I

1928
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,319
was waiting back to work, but he didn't go back

1929
01:57:41,359 --> 01:57:43,159
to work for six months. He wouldn't come out of

1930
01:57:43,239 --> 01:57:43,600
the house.

1931
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:49,159
Speaker 3: Poor poor it. See when I get nervous, I kind

1932
01:57:49,159 --> 01:57:51,600
of chuckle a little bit. And when you're telling that story,

1933
01:57:52,039 --> 01:57:55,000
I didn't mean it any fence to anybody, but you

1934
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,720
know what I'm saying, It's like put I try to

1935
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:01,800
put myself in all of you guys place, y'all standing there,

1936
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:04,439
you almost falling out, the other guy catching you, and

1937
01:58:04,479 --> 01:58:07,239
then wat y'all just witness and what you've just heard

1938
01:58:07,279 --> 01:58:10,119
and felt. And then you got the guy that snapped,

1939
01:58:10,239 --> 01:58:13,319
basically mentally snapped, and he's driving and you're trying to

1940
01:58:13,319 --> 01:58:17,479
hang on for dear life, and that's just it's just terrifying.

1941
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:20,560
Uh well, I'm glad, y'all were all okay, so it's.

1942
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:22,840
Speaker 4: But I'm glad he was driving that new truck.

1943
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:28,079
Speaker 10: Joe right knew how to handle it for.

1944
01:58:28,119 --> 01:58:31,119
Speaker 3: The Yeah, that was a chest move like Bruce said, no,

1945
01:58:31,199 --> 01:58:36,920
you drive, buddy, all right, Thank you, Bruce, Thank.

1946
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 10: You so much, sir. This has been fantastic.

1947
01:58:39,079 --> 01:58:40,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1948
01:58:39,479 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had a I've had a blast, even though

1949
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:46,760
you've scared the crap out of me. But y'all and chat.

1950
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,359
Thank you everybody on Spotify to be listening. Thank you

1951
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:49,960
very much.

1952
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1953
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get nervous pretty quick. Uh that's all i'most

1954
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,119
say about that. Like Forrest Gump, y'all, have a good night.

1955
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 9: Oh hang on, Suno advice. One more thing. So me

1956
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:07,039
and Roger have been talking. So this is our fiftieth episode,

1957
01:59:07,279 --> 01:59:08,960
and he was like Oh, we didn't get to do anything.

1958
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:14,479
Not that, Bruce, You're not special for our fiftieth episode.

1959
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:18,239
Speaker 10: That's coming out all wrong those words back.

1960
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:22,000
Speaker 9: So anyway, we decided we're going to do something special

1961
01:59:22,159 --> 01:59:26,640
for our fifty second episode, which means that is one

1962
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:29,199
year that we've been doing squatdch and holler here on

1963
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:33,319
Told Radio Network. So this even or tomorrow, I'm going

1964
01:59:33,399 --> 01:59:37,880
to put up a post on the Facebook page TikTok

1965
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,199
and stuff like that, and we're going to do a

1966
01:59:40,399 --> 01:59:44,319
Q and a episode where y'all can ask us any

1967
01:59:44,399 --> 01:59:47,520
kind of questions you want, whether it's about us, about cryptids,

1968
01:59:48,399 --> 01:59:51,039
guests that we've had, any kind of questions that we

1969
01:59:51,159 --> 01:59:53,079
may have missed in some of the chats or stuff

1970
01:59:53,119 --> 01:59:55,560
like that. So I'm getting the word out since it'll

1971
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:57,600
be in two weeks that we all have time to

1972
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:01,359
muddle it over and hopefully we can get those get

1973
02:00:01,359 --> 02:00:03,239
those questions and get them together.

1974
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:03,439
Speaker 10: For the show.

1975
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,159
Speaker 3: Everybody except Very ex he's gonna ask me something I

1976
02:00:06,159 --> 02:00:08,680
don't know. I guarantee it. He asked you a questions.

1977
02:00:09,079 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 10: He send this a list like this, the questions.

1978
02:00:16,039 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 3: Very Very is so funny. It's like his questions will

1979
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,079
be in three parts. I'm like, oh my god, which

1980
02:00:21,119 --> 02:00:24,000
part do I look at? Oh? Wow, thank you Elizabeth,

1981
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:27,840
thank you, thank you. So yeah. But Amanda's in charge

1982
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:29,600
of this, so I'm just I'm along for the ride.

1983
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:32,600
I'm gonna participate and have fun. And uh, I'll let

1984
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:36,960
her organize all that, and maybe she'll ask questions, uh

1985
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:41,239
that she won't show me, and y'all can see my reaction. Yes,

1986
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:50,399
all right, I'm gonna bring out my Tennessee and we

1987
02:00:50,560 --> 02:01:08,359
out here, y'all, down in the pines.

1988
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 5: Where the water runs black, where the moss sangs low

1989
02:01:11,039 --> 02:01:15,560
and the night leans back. The stores whisper about a shadow, tall,

1990
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:18,479
big feet moving where the moon lad fault.

1991
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 6: Some say it be some saved ghosts in the trees.

1992
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 7: Some say it trouble blowing in with the breeze.

1993
02:01:25,199 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 5: But around here, man, we know the call or we

1994
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:33,279
just calling friends. The squatching howler, so.

1995
02:01:33,439 --> 02:01:38,279
Speaker 6: Lie that and the cat tells sake the birth time,

1996
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:42,640
the copper heads fading here Georgia fall.

1997
02:01:43,119 --> 02:01:45,800
Speaker 4: That ain't no man, and it ain't no dog.

1998
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:49,439
Speaker 6: When the creek groll's cold and the shadows get taller. Yeah,

1999
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:53,800
your brother in the squatting the legs wal' getting a

2000
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:57,439
brave man footer. But I mind your staffing and squatching.

2001
02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:18,439
Speaker 4: How where body tell me stories about a thing?

2002
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:22,079
Speaker 5: Ain't sauce to ten foot high with a timber y'all

2003
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,159
red ice running like a summer's coat.

2004
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:28,520
Speaker 6: Let track big enough to swallow your sober.

2005
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:30,319
Speaker 3: The old folks laugh, say.

2006
02:02:30,399 --> 02:02:34,479
Speaker 6: Don't you fearfkrit has been living here for hundreds of years.

2007
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:37,800
Treat them with respect when the moon gets smaller, and

2008
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:42,800
they'll let you live in squatch and holler sold that fire.

2009
02:02:43,279 --> 02:02:45,039
Speaker 5: He let the swamp from roll.

2010
02:02:45,159 --> 02:02:48,079
Speaker 3: You can hear that beast right down in your soul.

2011
02:02:48,279 --> 02:02:50,359
Speaker 4: If you hear her grun up from the river.

2012
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:52,479
Speaker 5: Carl it ain't no boat.

2013
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,359
Speaker 3: Frost bark in the lord.

2014
02:02:54,279 --> 02:02:57,399
Speaker 6: Lettle swamp run still, and the crickets get salt to

2015
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:01,000
y'all lie alone, and the smalling go the weather break

2016
02:03:01,119 --> 02:03:04,800
bay ties in the fools off from keep watch on

2017
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:39,840
that spot in Haller. Some say guards it old pine ridge.

2018
02:03:40,039 --> 02:03:43,560
Speaker 5: Some say he walks from bridge to bridge the warm

2019
02:03:43,640 --> 02:03:44,239
thanks show.

2020
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Speaker 3: When the night comes down, something.

2021
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:49,199
Speaker 4: Big still calls. It's grown.

2022
02:03:51,399 --> 02:03:55,199
Speaker 3: So bank that fire. Let the night get deep at

2023
02:03:55,239 --> 02:03:56,359
the willows, win.

2024
02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 5: Other cuts or creeps. If you catch us glimps to

2025
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:00,600
them at night.

2026
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:04,159
Speaker 3: Holler just now, jahead, don't scream and holler.

2027
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:07,279
Speaker 6: Because a while I'm on springing and the legends getting taller,

2028
02:04:07,439 --> 02:04:11,520
how wherever it rons in squatching, Holly, we ain't scared,

2029
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:14,239
but we sure staying cautious down in the

2030
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Speaker 3: Dock on oun squatching Hollo,