1 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,879 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,239 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist, 3 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,120 and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for knowledge. As always, 4 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,159 you can email the show at radio at the Federalist 5 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,359 dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, make 6 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:39,159 sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and of 7 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,600 course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:46,359 Our guest today is Moms for Liberty co founder Tiffany 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,840 Justice on why the left just can't seem to follow 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,920 the science when it comes to men and women, particularly 11 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,920 in sports today in other places in society. Welcome to 12 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,599 the Federalist Radio Hour, and congratulations Tiffany on your new 13 00:01:05,599 --> 00:01:06,920 position with the Heritage Foundation. 14 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: By the way, thank you very much. 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: It's an exciting opportunity for me to take all of 16 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,519 the things that I've learned over the past four years 17 00:01:14,519 --> 00:01:16,920 with Moms for Liberty to the next level and make 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,439 sure that we help President Trump and his administration to 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,519 accomplish all of the goals that they've set out across 20 00:01:21,519 --> 00:01:22,000 the country. 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: Must make your head spend thinking about how much you 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,120 have learned, how much you have experienced, of course over 23 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:30,439 the last several years in this good fight for parental rights. 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,079 In fact, that's what you'll be doing right at the 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Heritage Foundation leading the parental rights initiative there. 26 00:01:35,519 --> 00:01:38,799 Speaker 3: Yes, I'll be leading a parental rights initiative there, building 27 00:01:38,799 --> 00:01:41,799 a coalition across the country of like munded individuals from 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,120 many different aspects of life, from lawyers to advocates to 29 00:01:46,519 --> 00:01:50,359 doctors who are concerned about different areas of wellness and 30 00:01:50,439 --> 00:01:52,680 parental consent and information when it comes. 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: To children in healthcare. 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: So really bringing a lot of people together to take 33 00:01:55,959 --> 00:01:58,959 a comprehensive look at parental rights. I'll tell you when 34 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:01,599 I ran for school board in twenty sixteen, I had 35 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,799 four children in three different public schools, and I had 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,400 absolutely no idea that that decision would lead me to 37 00:02:08,439 --> 00:02:11,120 this moment. But during COVID, when I was on school board, 38 00:02:11,439 --> 00:02:14,599 I saw that the government had absolutely no respect for 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,680 our fundamental parental rights. And when I say fundamental, that's 40 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,159 so important because these are rights that the government doesn't 41 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:23,800 give you that they certainly can't take away easily. These 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,280 are rights that are given to you by God to 43 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:28,199 direct the upbring of your children and the fact that 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,319 the government thinks that they can infringe upon those rights 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:30,759 so easily. 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,879 Speaker 2: It's just unacceptable. 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: Well, we've seen all kinds of that infringement, of course, 48 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:38,960 over the years, and you see the deep state and 49 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,599 the swamp in Washington, d C. Fighting back, of course, 50 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:47,800 because well, frankly, we're watching rats being cornered right now, 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,439 and we know what rats do when they're cornered. But 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,719 that's a topic for another day. Let us start, if 53 00:02:53,719 --> 00:02:59,360 we can, with my old home state, the Badger's State, 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,120 the state of Whisks. It has been a site of 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,120 political controversy on many occasions. It's a swing state, a 56 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:13,560 battleground state, very important in the political calculus for any 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,840 president or any candidate running for president. This governor in 58 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:21,800 Wisconsin for a long time. But the name of Tony Evers, 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,039 and let me begin with, if I could, with a 60 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:32,080 recent federalist story, Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers wants to change 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:39,159 the word mother to inseminated person. Iver's executive budget bill 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,120 includes a section that would remove terms in state documents 63 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,719 such as wife, mother, father, and husband and replace them 64 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:53,240 with gender neutral terms including spouse, person and inseminated person. 65 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:59,199 The governor, after being widely and rightly criticized for this 66 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:04,560 late move on the identity politics front has doubled down 67 00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:10,039 on this. You have some thoughts on this. I would 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,039 imagine Tiffany. Why he's not alone? Why is the left 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,319 doubling down on this stuff when they clearly lost big 70 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:22,959 at the polls in November on this hill. 71 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: Well, it's I think it's shocking to most Americans. You know, 72 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:29,639 I've spent a little bit of a time in Wisconsin, 73 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,439 and what I've learned is that for the people on 74 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,879 the ground, this really is an eighty twenty issue. The 75 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,600 majority of people in Wisconsin absolutely want no part of 76 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:40,000 the woke mind virus and this idea of blurring the 77 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,920 lines between male and female. There's a representative in the 78 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:49,199 House in Wisconsin. Her name is Amanda ned Wesky. She 79 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:53,079 interestingly started as a vice chair of Mom's Liberty Chapter 80 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,279 and ended up running for House and one. And she 81 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,240 found that the word mother or is replaced at least 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,639 thirty times and the word father more than one hundred 83 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,600 and twenty times throughout the documents. So this isn't just 84 00:05:07,639 --> 00:05:09,439 a war on moms and women. This is a war 85 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:14,240 on parents and family in general, and what your governor 86 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:17,480 said was, well, we're talking about, you know, in vitro fertilization, 87 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:18,800 and we need to be specific. 88 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: But this is what the left does. They introduce. They 89 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,720 take the opportunity to introduce generative themes into the conversation, 90 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,439 whether it's the classroom or obviously a budget in a state, 91 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,439 but to change the words. 92 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: That are used, or to change what those words mean, 93 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,319 in order to try to accomplish their progressive goal, which 94 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,480 again is to blur the lines between male and female, 95 00:05:43,519 --> 00:05:47,439 to take away the power and protections of being a parent, 96 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,399 of being a mother and a father. Those are powerful words, 97 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,879 mother and father, and by kind of denigrating those and 98 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,720 taking them out of the conversation, it's easier to make 99 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:00,639 it seem like perhaps maybe children don't belong to their parents, 100 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:01,160 maybe they. 101 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: Belonged to day. 102 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that And I wanted to touch upon that 103 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,720 because while Tony Evers, the governor of Wisconsin, goes about 104 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,839 to trying to clean up the mess that the political 105 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:18,800 mess for himself and liberals Democrats in that state, there 106 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:22,000 is a definite meaning here to all of it. And 107 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,920 I say this by way of a story I remember 108 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,079 covering a few years back in the Madison Area school district, 109 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,439 you had a teacher who had a sign on her 110 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:38,959 door or somewhere in the school that said, if your 111 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:44,439 parents do not respect the way you either the way 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,480 you identify your chosen gender, then I'm your parent. Now 113 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,279 I'm paraphrasing, but that was the meaning of what we're 114 00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:57,759 talking about here. That's a real thought in the leftist 115 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,839 movement that you folks at for Liberty have been really 116 00:07:02,879 --> 00:07:05,040 on the front lines fighting for a long time. 117 00:07:05,519 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 118 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think it's shocking for a lot of 119 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,720 Americans to even begin to think that the government thinks 120 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,240 they know better than us for our children. But you're 121 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:16,560 absolutely right. I've seen signs like the one you just mentioned. 122 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,360 I've seen teachers wearing or other adults wearing t shirts 123 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,360 that say free mom hugs. I got in a lot 124 00:07:23,399 --> 00:07:25,560 of trouble when I commented and said, if you're you know, 125 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,160 if you're someone other than my child, you know, if 126 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,040 you're offering free mom hugs to a child and you're 127 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:34,600 not that child's mom, we've got a big problem here. 128 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: You my rumor. 129 00:07:36,399 --> 00:07:40,279 Speaker 3: And when I was on sixty Minutes, the gentleman who 130 00:07:40,319 --> 00:07:43,240 was interviewing Scott Pelly brought that up and I said, 131 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,040 you know, it's just weird. 132 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: It's really weird to be. 133 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: Sending a message to children that somehow, if their parents 134 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:51,639 don't agree with what they're doing, that maybe those parents 135 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:57,040 don't count anymore. And ultimately, we know that when kids 136 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,639 get sick in a school, when kids are sick, they 137 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:02,199 go home to their parents. When kids have life, what happens. 138 00:08:02,199 --> 00:08:04,319 Who's picking the LIFs out. It's not the teachers, it's 139 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:06,160 the parent. Parents care for. 140 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: Their children and love their children more than anyone else. 141 00:08:08,519 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: And the idea that the government is somehow, you know, 142 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,279 sending a signal that parents aren't important, or somehow that 143 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:19,160 parents is that secrets should be kept from parents, which 144 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:22,399 we know is happening around the country, including in Wisconsin, 145 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,519 is incredibly concerning and it absolutely. 146 00:08:25,079 --> 00:08:25,759 Speaker 2: Has to stop. 147 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,319 Speaker 1: Well, Tiffany, you know this has been building and building 148 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,399 over the years. That's why you have groups like Moms Liberty, 149 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:34,919 That's why you have parents running for school board, thank goodness, 150 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,440 out there representing their children and children in the school 151 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,799 district in general. From this onslaught of the left. And 152 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,559 you know, it's I think it's amazing to the average 153 00:08:49,639 --> 00:08:54,240 American to think about what is at stake, what is 154 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:58,720 being pushed here back to the whole notion of the 155 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,720 language of the inca seminated person. I mean you can 156 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:07,399 look at it and scratch your head and say, why 157 00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:11,519 on earth would we be at this point. I think 158 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,639 legendary Hall of Fame Green Bay Packers football quarterback said 159 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:19,840 it best in responding to all of this with one word. 160 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,960 He said, nonsense. I think about yeah, think about Whalon 161 00:09:25,039 --> 00:09:31,200 Jennings and Willie Nelson's Country classic imploring inseminated persons not 162 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,200 to let their non aborted clump of cells, as the 163 00:09:35,279 --> 00:09:37,440 left would call it, grow up to be cow persons. 164 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,399 I mean, that's that's basically where we're at, isn't it. 165 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, I mean let's go a little bit further, 166 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,679 because I think it's important for people to understand. There 167 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,720 was a case that was before the First Circuit Court 168 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,519 of Appeals that just said that parents have no right 169 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,240 to know if the school is socially transitioning their child 170 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:54,720 behind their backs. 171 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: This is really concerning. 172 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:59,799 Speaker 3: This is a case that everyone in America really needs 173 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,519 to know and understand that. In this case versus Lolow, 174 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,480 parents had challenged the school's policy of hiding gender identity 175 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,679 information of minor children from their parents, and the school 176 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,200 claimed that the policy was appropriate and necessary to ensure 177 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,240 a safe and inclusive school learning environment. The parents said 178 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:22,039 that concealing their middle school child's gender identity information interfere 179 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:24,879 with their Fourteenth Amendment substantive due process right to direct 180 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:29,200 their child's upbringing. Again, we have a situation right now 181 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,799 where courts are kind of not sure what role the 182 00:10:32,799 --> 00:10:34,919 parents supposed to be playing in the child's life. So 183 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,120 while it might seem people can laugh and we can 184 00:10:37,159 --> 00:10:40,399 say it's nonsense what Governor Evers is doing, it's the 185 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,559 same thing that Kamala Harris did when she sat down 186 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:45,799 at that table. If everyone remembers and said, you know, 187 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:47,080 my name is Kamala Harris. 188 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: I'm wearing whatever color shirt she was wearing in my 189 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:51,120 por she her. 190 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: It's introducing this idea that this is something that we 191 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,600 should be doing, should be talking about, that should be 192 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,480 part of our normal language that we're using. 193 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: And you know, while. 194 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,879 Speaker 3: Everyone might be laughinated laughing at this issue, we're still 195 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:07,720 talking about it. And when we talk about things of 196 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:10,600 this nature, unless we obliterate them, unless we get people 197 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,080 like the governor evers out of office, or you know, 198 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,399 we're able to strike the language out of the budget 199 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,399 bit and the bill in the way that he's introduced it. 200 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,720 You know, the left does make progress in some of these. 201 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Areas, indeed, and there is, as you mentioned before, pushback 202 00:11:27,399 --> 00:11:30,559 against this. So these sorts of issues are not doing 203 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,080 so well politically for them. 204 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: They're not. 205 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: You saw Bill Maher, I think he said to the 206 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,039 gentleman that pod saves America. 207 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: He was on a podcast and he said, you know. 208 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,039 Speaker 3: Basically, you guys are going to keep losing elections if 209 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:44,919 you keep trying to tell a parent that you know, 210 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,639 you know better than them for their child. And so, 211 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:50,120 you know, we're hopeful that that is the case, that 212 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,440 parents and people are really waking up and saying, wait 213 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,159 a second, who the heck do you think you. 214 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: Are in our child's life? And so I am very hopeful. 215 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: I think that the sports issue in general, you have 216 00:11:59,159 --> 00:12:02,240 President Trump and the gender issue. You know, President Trump 217 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,120 coming out with that executive order, you know, saying we're 218 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,320 ending gender ideology in our schools. We're you know, stopping 219 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,519 the indoctrination that's happening, whether it's anti American doctrination and 220 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,799 critical race theory in schools or the gender ideology. We're 221 00:12:14,799 --> 00:12:16,720 not going to allow boys on girls' sports teams. And 222 00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:20,720 then you see that court in Kansas that vacated the 223 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,200 Biden Title nine rule. Once again another effort. Right, you 224 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,480 have the Biden administration rewriting Title nine that this is 225 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,360 the Department of Education, the Office of Civil Rights to 226 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,000 redefine sex to include gender identity and sexual orientation. 227 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,039 Speaker 2: How crazy that. 228 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,919 Speaker 3: The Department of Education thought they could come in and 229 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,120 rewrite a law, rewrite Title nine. 230 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: That is totally unconstitutional. 231 00:12:43,039 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: That's what that court said, and that Biden rule was obliterated, 232 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,320 and we went back to. 233 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: The Trump twenty sixteen twenty twenty. 234 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: Title nine regulations that Betsy Devas had helped to put through. 235 00:12:56,759 --> 00:12:59,720 But again another effort to try to change the way 236 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:02,279 that i'm Americans talk, which they hope will change the 237 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:03,840 way the Americans think enact. 238 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: Do you think in Wisconsin in particular, that there will 239 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,320 be political ramifications at the polls coming up, because the 240 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,840 first test really of what we saw the outcome in 241 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:19,919 November is coming to Wisconsin and what promises to be 242 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:25,120 the most expensive state Supreme Court race in history, which will, 243 00:13:25,159 --> 00:13:31,159 of course become the next most expensive Supreme Court race, 244 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:37,440 or it will, i should say, surpass the twenty twenty 245 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:42,000 three Wisconsin Supreme Court race for the most expensive race 246 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:48,000 judicial race in the country, and that race features a 247 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,000 battle for control of the court, whether liberals will continue 248 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,399 to control it or conservatives will. How much will this 249 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:02,279 parental rights and particularly this evers LA play into the 250 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,960 April first election in Wisconsin? 251 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: Do you think I think there were. 252 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 3: A lot of Americans I would say myself included. You know, 253 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,519 I ran for school board in twenty sixteen. I had 254 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,799 no idea what I was getting into. To be honest 255 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:15,320 with you, I had never served in government before, and 256 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:18,679 here I was, you know, coming into school board and 257 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,360 now seeing the way that government worked. 258 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:22,159 Speaker 2: I was shocked. I'm not going to lie. 259 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: It was shocking to me to see the control that 260 00:14:24,279 --> 00:14:26,960 the unions had. We'd had kids that were eating lunch 261 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,559 at school at ten fifteen. Why is that happening, Oh, 262 00:14:29,559 --> 00:14:31,720 it's in the bargaining contract with the union. I had 263 00:14:31,759 --> 00:14:35,440 no idea that the union was dictating those types of 264 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,720 the district right. And so that was kind of my 265 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:41,759 first foray into learning about government and the way that 266 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:43,960 government was infringing on our rights. And then I saw, 267 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,360 you know, obviously with COVID americans went on this journey 268 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:51,559 with me. We all kind of woke up together and 269 00:14:51,679 --> 00:14:54,440 saw in twenty twenty a government that was much more 270 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,480 interested in protecting systems than in protecting people and our 271 00:14:57,559 --> 00:15:01,759 rights and freedoms. And so I think for a lot 272 00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:04,759 of Americans, we also thought that, you know, maybe bad 273 00:15:04,799 --> 00:15:07,120 things are happening in different places, but you know what, 274 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,759 by the time it gets to the courts, everything will 275 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:11,919 be right because the courts will do the right thing. 276 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,559 The courts will you know, will always use the Constitution 277 00:15:14,639 --> 00:15:15,720 as the guiding document. 278 00:15:15,799 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: And but that's not the case. 279 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,879 Speaker 3: We've seen court rulings like I just mentioned in the 280 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:24,440 first second Court of Appeals, where there are horrible decisions 281 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,559 being made that are shocking to the American people that 282 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,120 the government, that the court would tell the government they 283 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,559 could do what they want with a person's child and 284 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,759 the parents don't matter. So I think what's really great 285 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:38,759 about what's happening in Wisconsin now is the. 286 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: Fact that so many people are awake in paying attention 287 00:15:40,799 --> 00:15:41,480 to the fact that. 288 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: Electing good judges and having those judges be liberty minded 289 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,159 America first individuals are. 290 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: Is very important. 291 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: I don't think that that focus has really been there 292 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:53,559 for a lot of Americans for a long time, where 293 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:55,679 they just assumed that the court system would work its 294 00:15:55,679 --> 00:15:57,440 way out and would do the right thing. 295 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: And so yes, I think it absolutely. I think and 296 00:16:00,919 --> 00:16:01,679 this this. 297 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,039 Speaker 3: Move is definitely putting a lot of attention to the 298 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,440 facts that there are people high up in government that 299 00:16:06,519 --> 00:16:08,799 are going to make decisions in those courts in your state, 300 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,600 will end up making decisions about government officials and their actions. 301 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:15,279 And so people, if they want to have their voice heard, 302 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,320 need to be involved and they need to be voting 303 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:19,879 in these in these races in the Supreme Court race. 304 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:23,360 So yes, very expensive race, very important rates that will 305 00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:26,480 really you know, as we watch President Trump and his 306 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:29,759 administration and cabinet members, they're all meeting right now, actually 307 00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:33,960 first cabinet meeting. But as they you know, deregulate things, 308 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,440 as they push, you know, more power back down into 309 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:39,799 the states, like you're going to see with Linda McMahon 310 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:41,799 with the Secretary and the Secretary of Education. The President 311 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,759 Trump has said and want more power going back down 312 00:16:43,799 --> 00:16:47,080 to the states, back to the parents. That state level leadership, 313 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,559 that is who you're electing at the state level. How 314 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,320 involved you are, is going to have a huge impact 315 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,559 on your ability to live a free and healthy life 316 00:16:56,559 --> 00:16:57,159 in your state. 317 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:03,799 Speaker 5: Busler Poindexter is bet because inflation is hot, hot hot. 318 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,599 The Watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 319 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,519 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 320 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:12,759 the economy and how it affects your wallet. January, inflation 321 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,839 numbers have continued to climb, and the media has already 322 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,240 found a way to pin this on Trump. We've done 323 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:20,799 this to ourselves for a long period of time because 324 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:23,880 inflation is not going away. Whether it's happening in DC 325 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:26,079 or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 326 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: Be informed. 327 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:28,599 Speaker 5: Check out the Watched Out on Wall Street podcast with 328 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,599 Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 329 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: Our guest today is Moms for Liberty co founder Tiffany 330 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,759 Justice really on what is going on in parental rights 331 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:47,279 in America. Some significant victories obviously over the last few 332 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,880 years in this country, some big challenges as well. You know, 333 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,880 you mentioned the whole States rights issue, and that certainly 334 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,920 lost in the Biden administration. But then you have governors 335 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:07,000 in states like Maine, Janet Mills, and I think we've 336 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,039 all seen the video, We've all read the story about 337 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:16,559 the Democrat governor of Maine saying that she would see 338 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,279 President Trump in court because she, of course is a 339 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,799 vehement defender of men in women's sports, boys and girls sports. 340 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,000 And so, you know, we have this battle going on. 341 00:18:28,079 --> 00:18:30,680 But you hear from the left now, which of course 342 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,000 was never much into states' rights until it came to 343 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:40,400 supporting these what the vast majority of Americans, I believe 344 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:46,759 look insane policies like the one we are seeing in Wisconsin. 345 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,640 They're claiming states' rights. What do you say to that, 346 00:18:50,839 --> 00:18:55,200 the argument that Maine should have the absolute right as 347 00:18:55,279 --> 00:19:01,119 a state to allow women men to compete in women's sports, 348 00:19:01,319 --> 00:19:06,680 and to mutilate children and to allow school districts, you know, 349 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,720 to hide the child's identity and not have those important 350 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:12,960 conversations with parents. 351 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I say the same thing that President Trump says, 352 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:18,240 which was good luck. You know, she said she's complying 353 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,799 with state and federal law. He said, I am federal law. 354 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,039 We are federal law. And so he's been very very 355 00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:27,519 clear on this issue, and you know, in that exchange, 356 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:30,000 it was just very interesting to me to see that governor, 357 00:19:30,279 --> 00:19:31,839 you know, go up against the president and then the 358 00:19:31,839 --> 00:19:34,200 President say, oh, and by the way, you may not 359 00:19:34,279 --> 00:19:37,359 be elected for very much longer, because you know he's 360 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,759 going to make sure she's not. And it's important to 361 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:43,319 have that type of leadership to say, you know, if 362 00:19:43,319 --> 00:19:45,440 you're not doing what the will of the people want, 363 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,640 we're going to come into even a state like Maine 364 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:49,880 and help the citizens of Maine have their voice heard. 365 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,359 I talk to main parents all the time. The Governor 366 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,880 Mills is very far away from what the majority of 367 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,720 people in Maine want. They do not have a well 368 00:19:58,759 --> 00:20:01,559 functioning representative govern And then you see President Trump and 369 00:20:01,599 --> 00:20:03,640 the Opposite of Civil Rights and the Department of Education 370 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,200 launch an investigation into Maine. And then we saw Pam Bondi, 371 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,880 Attorney General Pam Bondi say not only Maine, but now California, 372 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,359 and I believe it was New Jersey that the DOJ 373 00:20:13,599 --> 00:20:16,839 is looking into. There are federal laws like Title nine 374 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:19,200 are there is a role for the federal government to 375 00:20:19,279 --> 00:20:21,759 help to protect the rights and freedoms that the Constitution 376 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:25,440 grants to us as American citizens, and that isn't. 377 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: Going to stop. And so while certain things are. 378 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: As supposed to be the domain of the states, these 379 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,880 types of things like Title nine, like protecting women and girls, 380 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,359 like civil rights and general parental rights, these are things 381 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,200 where the federal government should and can weigh in, and 382 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,839 there's a role for them. And so again I say 383 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:44,359 to Governor Mills, good luck, Governor Mills, because I think 384 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,519 you're going to lose this one. 385 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:50,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, Governor Janet, of course is it's an interesting situation 386 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,960 in Maine. There's a petition drive for her recall and 387 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:57,400 they've got, as I read the story this morning, already 388 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,119 fifteen thousand signatures in a very short period of time. 389 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,400 The problem is, Maine is one of thirty states that 390 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,599 does not have a recall mechanism for governors. This is 391 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:14,319 something I know very well because I covered the infamous 392 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:19,200 leftist led recall of Governor Scott Walker, Republican, simply because 393 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:23,920 he went up against the public sector unions, the teachers' unions, 394 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,079 way back in twenty eleven. But the message is still 395 00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:31,880 very clear, is it not? Even if there is no 396 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,640 mechanism truly for recall in May, no the message. 397 00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: Is clear that we're going to get involved in races 398 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,119 all over the country. 399 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 3: That this idea that you know, while it's a blue 400 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,640 state and you know, we're not going to affect no, 401 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,200 the people have spoken. 402 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: There was a very clear mandate. 403 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: President Trump did well in Maine and there are a 404 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,200 lot of people that support him, and he mentioned that. 405 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:55,079 And you know, I saw another person, very interesting person, 406 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,720 Nicole Shanahan, who has been working closely with Bobby Kennedy, 407 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,319 and she said to a couple different people on XI Washington, 408 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,960 she said, you know, we're going to primary you. 409 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: We're getting involved in races. 410 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,519 Speaker 3: You see people like Elon Musk, you know, two hundred 411 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:10,440 and seventy million dollars he puts into a presidential race 412 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,960 and starts with his America pack and a first pack 413 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,440 and really makes a difference. So I think you're seeing 414 00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:19,920 new and different people getting involved in politics, and they're 415 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,960 willing to put some money behind some of these races 416 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,039 and make sure that we have better candidates for people 417 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:27,000 to choose from, and make sure that when you have 418 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:30,039 people that are not doing what the people in the 419 00:22:30,079 --> 00:22:32,559 state want, that we make sure they don't get elected 420 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,559 again or and their friends don't get elected, and so 421 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,759 I think the landscape and politics is changing. People are 422 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,160 getting more involved. They recognize that they have to be 423 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,279 involved at that local level. But being involved in the 424 00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:46,480 local level and making sure that people understand the issues 425 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,119 that are important and where other candidates stand on those issues. 426 00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,599 Something like a school board election can affect all of 427 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,079 the different races up ballot. 428 00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. And really that's where Mom's 429 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,920 for Liberty got in the trenches and said, you know, 430 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:05,359 it's important to do all of this stuff at the 431 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,359 federal level, but the decisions that are impacting families lives, 432 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,200 children's lives daily happen at the local school of boards, 433 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:17,559 at the local county governments, at the you know. 434 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,599 Speaker 2: The local level. 435 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: And I think Moms for Liberty and some other groups 436 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:26,720 parental rights groups have done an excellent job of finding 437 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:31,319 candidates to stand up for parental rights. But I would 438 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:34,960 assume that that is a constant recruitment battle. Is it 439 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,279 easier today? Is it just as challenging as it ever 440 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,400 was to recruit candidates for these local positions. I think 441 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:42,599 it is. 442 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: Getting easier because people are aware of the fact that 443 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,480 it's something that they need to that needs to be 444 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:48,559 a part of their lives. I think for a lot 445 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:50,480 of people, as I said before, we were just kind of, 446 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,759 you know, living our lives, moms, dads, building businesses, right, working, 447 00:23:54,839 --> 00:23:58,279 taking care of parents, doing different things, and running for office, 448 00:23:58,279 --> 00:24:00,640 being involved in office with something somebodybody else did. 449 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: Right, it was Oh, I'm not. 450 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 3: A politician, but the truth of the matter is that 451 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,799 we need everybody to run for office and to be involved. 452 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:10,920 So I think just civic responsibility in general, people understanding 453 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000 that they have a role to play and getting involved, 454 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:15,119 even like people like Elon Musk. You know today he 455 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,079 said I'm getting a lot of death threats. We know 456 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,640 that his tesla's stock has taken a hit, and yet 457 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,920 here he is standing up for what's right because he's 458 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,640 worried America is going to go bankrupt and he knows 459 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,920 he needs to help to fix it. So if Elon Musk, 460 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,599 can you roll up his leaves and get involved, all 461 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,720 of us can too. So I think from that perspective, 462 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,480 people's awareness of needing to run for office is important. 463 00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:40,799 Speaker 2: Now are people doing it? Well? 464 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,559 Speaker 3: It is a big sacrifice, you know, it really does 465 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,519 change your life. I think is a wonderful thing. I 466 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:48,240 learned a lot when I served in office. But it's 467 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,880 not for everyone. So if you're listening to this and 468 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,480 you're thinking, well, you know what, I don't think running 469 00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:54,799 up for office is for me. Find a friend who 470 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:56,880 maybe you think could run for office, and then help them, 471 00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:58,920 because when you run for office, you do need a 472 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,480 lot of help. You need a steck terry, you need 473 00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:02,960 a treasurer, you need a campaign manager, you need people 474 00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:04,960 to help you with your advertising and promotion. 475 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: And so there are lots of different. 476 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,799 Speaker 3: Things that you can do to help people to run 477 00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:12,920 for office. And I'm really hopeful that I think more 478 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,599 and more people are going to step up and run 479 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,160 for office and run with other people so you have 480 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240 a good slate of candidates, so you can really get 481 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,640 in there and flip a whole board. Like you said, 482 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,359 this Wisconsin Supreme Court race is going to change the 483 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,720 makeup of the board and can dictate that it would 484 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,880 become conservative, and that would be important because and the 485 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,680 same thing can happen at the school board level. You 486 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,440 can make a lot of change happen when you have 487 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,400 control of a board. 488 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,519 Speaker 1: It's a question I ask my guest a lot on 489 00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:44,519 the Federalist Radio Hour because we talk about so many 490 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:50,000 fundamental foundational things. But you know, the question ultimately is 491 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:52,960 where are we going from here? But we can't get 492 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,759 there until we ask the question how did we get here? 493 00:25:57,279 --> 00:25:58,720 And I'm going to ask you that, Tiffany, how do 494 00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:02,839 you think we got here in America? Over these last 495 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,359 several years where we have a governor in a state 496 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,720 who is pushing gender neutral terms in seminated persons, exchanging 497 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,559 the term mother for inseminated persons, and you know the 498 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:23,920 battles that the left have waged, you know, in transgender 499 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,119 America and the medical mutilation of children. As we talked about, 500 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:31,960 how did we get here? Because it didn't happen overnight, 501 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:33,319 that's for sure. Yeah. 502 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,319 Speaker 3: I want to say something first that I think everyone 503 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,920 needs to really listen to and hear and repeat. There 504 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,839 is no such thing as a transgender child. There's no 505 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,400 such thing as a transgender person. We have people who 506 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,480 are dealing with mental health distress, and we should be 507 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:47,960 compassionate with them and get them the help that they need. 508 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:53,119 But we've been foisted into this world of nonsense and 509 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,079 of pathologizing oftentimes just very normal things that people go 510 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,720 through which may be puberty, may be sadness, depression, and anxiety. 511 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,920 Normal things that we are literally raising children to think 512 00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:06,240 need to be treated with medication and other things. So 513 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,200 we need to be really clear about the fact that 514 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,079 there are men and there are women. How did we 515 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,640 get here? 516 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,319 Speaker 2: It was very intentional. 517 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,839 Speaker 3: I mean I've watched and learned as there was a 518 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,400 very intentional push in the United States to take to 519 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:20,960 take us down a Marxist communist path, and the schools 520 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,960 have been used as a major part of that, with 521 00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:27,920 people going into colleges and then teachers teachers colleges and 522 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,119 then making their way into the classrooms and then really 523 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:36,079 trying to turn education from education to activism. And you know, 524 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,599 there there are We could get into a lot of 525 00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:41,480 the different people that helped to make that happen, But 526 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,640 the truth of the matter is that we just let 527 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,599 our eye off the ball. I think we got comfortable 528 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,079 in America, and as I said before, we got busy 529 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,200 living our lives and not realizing that there were a 530 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,559 lot of people that were getting involved, especially in these 531 00:27:54,599 --> 00:27:57,119 local races, the teachers unions and others that do want 532 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,920 to radically transform the United States of America. They do 533 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,319 want a socialist country. I did an interview with a 534 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,079 young man. I normally take all of the interviews with 535 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,400 high school and college students. As a mom of four 536 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,039 now teenagers, I think it's very important to talk to teenagers. 537 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:13,480 And this young man said to me at the end 538 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:15,880 of the interview, which it was kind of a spicy interview, 539 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,960 he didn't I could tell he wasn't. He didn't like 540 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,680 me very much. He said, I just want to tell you, 541 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,880 missus Justice, that I disagree with everything that you think. 542 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,640 And I said, well, everything, that's a lot. I bet 543 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,240 if we talked for a minute we could find something 544 00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:29,960 we agree on. He said no, he said, you don't 545 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:31,480 understand I'm a communist. 546 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,079 Speaker 2: I said, oh, you go to make sense. You're seventeen 547 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,880 for communists. But the thing but at our summit that. 548 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: We had in Philadelphia, the people that were protesting outside 549 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,279 of the summitit were the young, the young socialists, the 550 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,599 revolutionary communists. There is a real communist movement in the 551 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,599 United States of America, and they have put themselves into 552 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:54,799 different positions in order to be able to have power 553 00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:57,559 and control. And the truth is that we have to 554 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,079 invest in politics and order to get power and to 555 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,200 maintain power so that we have better people serving in office. 556 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,720 So these decisions like Governor Evers and Janet Mills, these 557 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,960 decisions aren't being made that we aren't being our courts 558 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,480 aren't forced to have to deal with these types of 559 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:13,440 ridiculous things. 560 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, again, this is decades and decades in making, 561 00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:19,519 I think, And you know, if you want to look 562 00:29:19,519 --> 00:29:22,319 at it historically, you speak to it historically. You know, 563 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,279 there was the Red Scare that occurred in Cold War America, 564 00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,759 the Cold War Cold War World, and you know, there 565 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,319 was this pushback that occurred because of the belief that 566 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,519 you know, rooting out communism in the State Department and 567 00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,759 whatever had gone too far, that civil liberties had been 568 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,400 you know, had been broached. And I think there is 569 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:50,279 some truth to that, but I think that whole time 570 00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:55,039 period allowed the left, the Marxist left in America, to 571 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:01,200 further infiltrate education systems, particularly public education systems in America 572 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,519 and higher institutions of education. And what did we get 573 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,759 decades later? We got you know, people backing terrorist groups, 574 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:17,279 students backing terrorist groups on Columbia's campus and campuses across 575 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:22,240 the country. We got a spike in anti Semitism, people 576 00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:28,000 forgetting that the genocide that had occurred in pre World 577 00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:32,039 War two, and in World War two we got this 578 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:37,640 whole DEI push that has infiltrated all of our systems 579 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,160 out there. It's a long time in the making. So 580 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:44,119 with all of that said, how do you go about 581 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:50,079 breaking that cycle, breaking that up, and making real change 582 00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:54,039 to combat that losing agenda in America? 583 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,559 Speaker 2: So a lot of. 584 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: People focus on the moms and the moms and the 585 00:30:57,759 --> 00:30:59,400 dads and moms for Liberty, and the moms are doing 586 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 amazing work. First, they're the bravest, smartest people I know 587 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,759 across the country. They have stood up in a time 588 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:05,599 where we needed them. 589 00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:07,559 Speaker 2: They have fought. I think of them as really the 590 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:08,799 soldiers of our time. 591 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,839 Speaker 3: Fighting at the front lines of the battle. But the 592 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,400 other part that we don't talk about enough, I think 593 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,079 are the kids and the fact that moms for Liberty, 594 00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:20,160 moms and dads and parents all over the country are 595 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,319 raising the next generation of patriots. 596 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: And so that's really what this is about. The Left 597 00:31:25,519 --> 00:31:26,480 wants our children. 598 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: They want to use the schools in order to drive 599 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,640 a wedge between the parent and the child so they 600 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,839 can introduce ideas and thoughts into our children's head that 601 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,559 will transform our country. And as you've said, with what 602 00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:39,839 we saw on Columbia and college campuses across the country, 603 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,680 a horrible war on Jews, but broadly a war on 604 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,359 Western civilization. You know, the issue is never the issue. 605 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,599 The issue is always the revolution. And a good friend 606 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,799 of mine, James Lindsay, says that often it is good 607 00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:57,279 to remember, and so we have to focus on the 608 00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,400 kids and making sure that our children know one understand 609 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,039 the real history of America, how far we've come. We've 610 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,880 had bad things happen in our history, but we've overcome 611 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,880 them as a country. I think that's why some of 612 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960 the critical race theory bothers me so much. 613 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: I grew up in the you know, in the nineties. 614 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 3: I was in high school and I was told you 615 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,680 could love who you wanted to love, mary who you 616 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,000 wanted to marry, have babies with who you wanted to 617 00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:20,759 have babies with. 618 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,799 Speaker 2: And yet now we have children being. 619 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 3: Taught in school that if their father's white and their 620 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,279 mother's black, that part of them is good, and part 621 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,160 of them is bad, part of them is oppressed, and 622 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:29,599 part of them. 623 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: As an oppressor. I can't think of a worse thing that. 624 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,799 Speaker 3: You could possibly tell a young child, and that's not 625 00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:37,599 what America is about. And so really it's up to 626 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,400 parents today now to make sure that we teach our 627 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,279 children how special and unique America is, how blessed we 628 00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,079 are to live in this country, and the fact that 629 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,400 it's up to them now to pay attention to what's 630 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,599 happening and to always stay involved. The price of liberty 631 00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:54,319 is truly eternal vigilance. 632 00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: You raise a very good point, because I am a 633 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,000 man of a certain age. I grew up in the ages, 634 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640 went to school in the eighties, in the early nineties, 635 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:04,799 and I can tell you that what I learned in 636 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,880 school was, you know, basically the ideas that Martin Luther 637 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:14,519 King Junior and other civil rights activist I think rightly 638 00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:18,720 pushed out there that it is the content of character, 639 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,680 not the color of skin, that got turned on its head. 640 00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:24,839 We were told all the things that you mentioned about 641 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,880 equality and you know, judging people by their actions, not 642 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,759 their skin color or you know whatever. And I think 643 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:40,240 over the last several years in this country, the Marxist 644 00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:46,160 movement and the Dei indoctrinators told us well Yeah, that's 645 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,480 all fine and good. But if you're white, or if 646 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:53,680 you don't fit in to the proper identity politics that 647 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,240 were pushing, you're the enemy. You're evil, you're wrong, you're 648 00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:03,960 part of the systemic racism. I truly believe that. You know, 649 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,119 people got tired of that for a while. They were 650 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,400 so fatigued, I think, and they were so worried about 651 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,840 being called a racist, a bigot, or a homophobe or 652 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,920 whatever that they didn't want to engage. And then finally 653 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:23,440 they did, indeed, in droves, wake up and say, no, 654 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,599 I'm not a bad person. This is what I believe 655 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,519 in equality. I don't believe in Marxist equity. That doesn't 656 00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:35,360 make me evil. Do you see that? Did you see 657 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,719 that going on? And was that in part why you 658 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,800 got involved in this fight? 659 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:39,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? 660 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, my friends who are gay will 661 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,400 tell you that the civil rights movement amongst gay people, 662 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:52,280 the LGB part of our society wanted tolerance. They wanted 663 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,119 to be able to live a life as they chose. 664 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,119 They weren't looking to force the entire country to celebrate 665 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,159 their lifestyle. And yet now in schools that's what we 666 00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:03,239 have happening, and so I think that that's been very 667 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,800 damaging to gay rights in America. When you have you know, 668 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,320 and let's be clear, lgb sexual orientation T transgender, This 669 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,559 is a mental illness and Q queer theory. Queer is 670 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,360 a political theory and you and it's and it's really 671 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,719 meant to destabilize our society. It's why that LGBTQ pride 672 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,239 flag never has an end to it. It's how you 673 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,559 get something called maps minor attracted people instead of pedophiles. 674 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,239 Because the queer theory, if somebody says they're queer, there's 675 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,719 no limiting principle to queer theory. That's very concerning. And 676 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,679 you know, a tree by its fruit, I'll tell you, 677 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:41,199 you know, to go back to what I was talking about. 678 00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:43,440 As far as the students are concerned. There was a 679 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:47,360 young young boy in Tennessee who went through a nine 680 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,920 week civil rights module and the civil rights module was 681 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,719 his English language arts curriculum, if you can believe that. 682 00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:54,679 Speaker 2: And he's six years old. 683 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: He had. 684 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:04,119 Speaker 3: A white father and a black mother and said, I, mommy, 685 00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:06,320 I don't want anyone to know that daddy is white. 686 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 687 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 3: And when you have a six year old that doesn't 688 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,199 want their dad to drop them off at school because 689 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,519 they don't want anyone to know that he's white. 690 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,559 Speaker 2: Because they feel such shame at that. That's a problem. 691 00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: This is a public school that is indoctrinating these children 692 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,960 to believe that. So, you know, it's very important, I think, 693 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,119 for us all to come together and to help our 694 00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:31,760 children to live in this country that has lots of 695 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,639 different people, with lots of different races and religions, and 696 00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:36,079 to find a way to live together. 697 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: That's breathtakingly sad. I just I am so sad that 698 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,679 we are at this place in time after so many 699 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,400 real struggles, real struggles in the civil rights movement in 700 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,480 this country and elsewhere. And that's what it has come 701 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,039 down to, you know, the whole anti racism so called, 702 00:36:57,079 --> 00:37:02,400 which is actual racism. That know, discrimination is wrong unless 703 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,079 it's the right kind of discrimination. That's what is at stake. 704 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,920 And you talk about defining the language, the left has 705 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,400 always been very good and that's the core of what 706 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:20,599 they do, changing the language, expanding the language with very nice, 707 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,559 flowery terms that are actually very evil at their core 708 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,440 in many instances. Back to our earlier the earlier part 709 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,320 in our conversation when we talked about, you know, children 710 00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:39,679 or teachers trying to intervene in the lives of children 711 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,400 by saying, if you are not accepted for the way 712 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,840 you identify in your gender at home, i'm your mom, now, 713 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,559 I'm your dad now, that kind of thing. Well, as 714 00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,360 we know, Hillary Clinton years ago used to say that 715 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,960 it takes a village to raise a child, which always 716 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,360 sounded so good to the left, but what they really 717 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,840 meant was it takes a village to take a child, 718 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,119 I think in many ways, and that is what is 719 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:11,199 at stake here, Is it not Tiffany, Because if parents 720 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,320 don't get into this fight, someone at some level is 721 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,440 going to take their child. 722 00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: Yes, and we should all be very very aware of 723 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,800 the concern. But I want to be clear about this. 724 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:26,079 I think the majority of teachers in America are fantastic, 725 00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:29,159 and we have put on their plate more and more 726 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,599 and more every year. They don't want to raise other 727 00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:34,159 people's children. They got in to teach children and it's 728 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,280 a wonderful profession. And so the majority of American teachers, 729 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,559 even in our public schools, I think, love the kids 730 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,400 and they respect parents, and they don't want any part 731 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,880 of this woke nonsense. So it is a small group 732 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,920 of educators who believe that they're activists who are doing 733 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,199 this work. And then we have the union bosses, the 734 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,920 teachers' unions. If you don't believe me that the union 735 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,159 bosses are pushing this nonsense, you should go look at 736 00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:01,480 the agendas for their different early events that they do. 737 00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:04,280 You can see what they're focused on, and reading is 738 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,400 nowhere on that list. When President Biden stood up in 739 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,639 the Rose Garden, I think it was teacher Appreciation Day 740 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,119 or something, he said, when they're in your classroom, they're 741 00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:16,760 like your children. That's not true. And so parents just 742 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,519 to have to really have this set in their minds. 743 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,559 These are our children. You make decisions for them. 744 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: If you go to the. 745 00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 3: Doctor with your child and the doctor asks you to 746 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,000 step out of the room to ask your child questions, 747 00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:30,199 you need to tell them no. 748 00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 2: You need to send a letter to your. 749 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,039 Speaker 3: Child's school and say I do not want my child 750 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:39,079 meeting with any adults without my informed consent, without me knowing, 751 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,239 and meet given consent for my child to meet with 752 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,280 those adults. There are counselors and psychologists at schools that 753 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,119 are meeting with children. Oftentimes parents do not know that parents, 754 00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:50,440 you have to stand up for your fundamental parental rights. 755 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,880 And I hope at some point we will turn the tide. 756 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,159 Speaker 2: Here. 757 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,599 Speaker 3: What you're going to see with these executive orders President 758 00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:58,480 Trump is putting out. He is answering the prayers and 759 00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:04,000 concerns of parents across the country, ending radical indoctrination in schools, 760 00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:07,039 protecting girls and women in private spaces. We have been 761 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,039 we were pleading with the President to do those things, 762 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,480 and he has come through. But now it's now that 763 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,559 it's time for Americans to do the hard work of 764 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:20,440 codifying these executive orders into law, Supporting our representatives and 765 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,320 our senators to make sure that these laws get passed 766 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,440 so the President can sign them into law, and then 767 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,000 to pay attention in the courts, to be plaintiffs, to 768 00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,800 be willing to be plaintiffs, to stand up and report 769 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,320 when things are happening to our children in these schools, 770 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,320 and to really push past any concerns about retribution, because. 771 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:39,679 Speaker 2: It's true they are there. 772 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,079 Speaker 3: I mean, we had the Department of Justice calling parents 773 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:45,480 domestic terrorists, right They tried to silence us to protect. 774 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 2: A failing system. They six the FBI on us for 775 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,480 Heaven's sakes. 776 00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: So parents need to know that now is the time 777 00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:54,119 for them to stand up to have their voices heard, 778 00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:57,119 to work with the Department of Education, the Department of Justice, 779 00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,079 to work in their own communities to make sure that 780 00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:00,920 their parental rights are going to be protected. 781 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: You've been very generous to the time. I very much appreciated. 782 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,400 Final question for you, and it is the what's next question. 783 00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:10,000 It's what's next for moms for liberty in this battle? 784 00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,719 What's next for Tiffany Justice? 785 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, Moms or Liberty is going to keep doing the 786 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,840 work that they have set out to do, which is 787 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,599 to unified, educate, and empower parents to defend their parental 788 00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:23,480 rights at all levels of government with a real focus 789 00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:26,840 on education and making sure that our children are really 790 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,159 learning how to read in school, getting back to the 791 00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,599 basics in school, and making sure that our parental rights 792 00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:33,360 are protected at the state level. So I think you're 793 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,239 going to see a lot of action at the state 794 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,440 level this legislative session from moms at their state capitals, 795 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,719 working with as I said, there are representatives and their 796 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,239 state senators to make sure that bills are passed that 797 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,159 protect their parental rights and they kill bills that are 798 00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:48,960 going to infringe upon those rights, and so I'm very 799 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,440 excited to see the progress that moms will make as 800 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,320 far as I'm concerned, I'm excited to lead this coalition 801 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,679 at the Heritage Foundation. Again, as I said, take all 802 00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:58,719 of these lessons that I've learned and all of the 803 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,320 connections that I've made across the country and help to 804 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:07,880 weave a very cool parental rights tapestry. There are people 805 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,039 that I meet every day who don't know certain people 806 00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:12,360 that they should know, or new people that are adjoining 807 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,320 the fight that want to get involved and have skills 808 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,639 and talents that they can use to help others. And 809 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,559 so going to help to make sure we have the 810 00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,119 right people testifying on bills, going to make sure that 811 00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:24,000 policy that's being made in the country is being made 812 00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:26,880 in a way that does not infringe on our parental rights. 813 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,639 And I'm going to make sure that President Trump and 814 00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,880 again his cabinet, his administration have the ability to execute 815 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,320 on all of those promises that they have made to 816 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,599 the American public, so we can make sure that we 817 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,719 keep those promises very good. 818 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,119 Speaker 1: I don't know of a more important fight than for 819 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,239 our children, first and foremost our parents, and our families. 820 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,599 Thanks to my guest today, Moms for Liberty co founder 821 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,679 Tiffany Justice, you've been listening to another edition of The 822 00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:55,280 Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle's senior elections correspondent at 823 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,400 The Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. Until then, 824 00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:01,320 stay lovers of freedom. I'm anxious for the fray. 825 00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 2: I heard the fame, voice the reason, and then it 826 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,400 faded away.