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<v Speaker 1>Golf Smarter number three hundred and fifty nine, published on

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty seven, twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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<v Speaker 2>insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the

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<v Speaker 2>Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our

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<v Speaker 2>interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the assessment that I do on golfer is

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<v Speaker 3>there is a balance element, and you'd be surprised how

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<v Speaker 3>many I would say close to eighty five ninety percent

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<v Speaker 3>really have some issues with balance. And when you're moving

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<v Speaker 3>your body parts in different directions all at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, balance becomes a vital component as you're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to shift your weight from your trail leg to your

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<v Speaker 3>target leg. I mean, if you have a balance issue

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<v Speaker 3>and that's going to play havoc with your swing and

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<v Speaker 3>your playing performance, you know, we don't practice it. The

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<v Speaker 3>second issue is that a lot of us and to

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<v Speaker 3>lose strength, especially in the lower body. That correlates to

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<v Speaker 3>the inability to maintain balance and such. So it's important

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that you do, get checked for balance,

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<v Speaker 3>and even if you don't, I mean just to practice it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just try to balance on one leg and see if

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<v Speaker 3>you have a tougher time trying to balance on your

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<v Speaker 3>right leg versus your left leg. You'd be surprised how

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<v Speaker 3>many people are good on one side but terrible on

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<v Speaker 3>the other. You just need to work on it to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you're kind of balancing out. It's your balance,

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<v Speaker 3>so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Your posture could be the key to fixing your game.

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<v Speaker 1>With Bob Forma, this is Golf Smarter.

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<v Speaker 4>Each week we tap the best minds in golf to

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<v Speaker 4>help lower your scores with tips, drills, insights and advice

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<v Speaker 4>in conversation with course pros, architects, authors, players, teaching gurus

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<v Speaker 4>and coaches. Here's your host, Fred Green.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast, Bob Hik.

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<v Speaker 3>Fred, good to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for Green to come on. Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you give us a quick recap of why we're

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<v Speaker 1>having you on the show. What is it that you

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<v Speaker 1>do well?

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<v Speaker 3>I do golf fitness, programming, assessment and training and education.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an exercise physiologist by trade, which means I study

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<v Speaker 3>the effects of exercise on the body. Always had an

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<v Speaker 3>interest in combining golf, which I enjoyed playing and exercise,

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<v Speaker 3>and went to the two thousand and six World Golf

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<v Speaker 3>Fitness Summit in Orlando when the co founders of the

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<v Speaker 3>Titlist Performance Institute presented. There then ten years of research

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<v Speaker 3>into the physical nature of the golf swing, and the

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<v Speaker 3>information they provided was unbelievable, a wow moment which basically

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<v Speaker 3>changed the industry, changed the game overnight because prior to that,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, everybody thought that golf and exercise was like

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<v Speaker 3>oil and water had just been mixed, right, And since

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<v Speaker 3>that time, it's been one hundred and eighty degrees. And

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<v Speaker 3>now everybody basically is you know, all the guys on

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<v Speaker 3>tours and the gals on tour, and as word is

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<v Speaker 3>getting out thanks to shows, you know, podcasts like yours

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<v Speaker 3>and Thank You, you know that people are becoming aware

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<v Speaker 3>of the fact that this exercise, now specific exercise can

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<v Speaker 3>actually help their game and actually help alleviate and prevent

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the golf related injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all the equipment that's out there, all the new

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<v Speaker 1>equipment and balls, clothes, whatever, it is, nothing seems to

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<v Speaker 1>gain any traction until one player on the tour, at

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<v Speaker 1>least one high profile player on the tour starts using it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then everyone says me, I want to do that?

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<v Speaker 5>Was there?

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<v Speaker 1>Can this be attributed to any specific player on this

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<v Speaker 1>whole revolution of golf fitness?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean the first yeah, I mean Tiger. Tiger

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<v Speaker 3>was you know, one of the the highlights in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of his workouts and stuff like that. You know, Gary

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<v Speaker 3>player has been talking about this.

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<v Speaker 1>For years, Yes he has, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, and I think unfortunately with Gary, there was really

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<v Speaker 3>no research to back what he was saying. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't until back in two thousand and six when

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<v Speaker 3>all the research did come out that we finally said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Gary's right, you know, the exercise and strength training specifically

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<v Speaker 3>can help a golfer. And then you know Tiger and

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<v Speaker 3>now basically everybody on the PGA Tour is doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you're going to get on the PGA

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<v Speaker 3>Tour if you're not doing some sort of exercise, because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from what I understand, from what I hear,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the folks and both the men and

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<v Speaker 3>women tours are you know, getting involved in getting trainers

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<v Speaker 3>and working out on a regular basis, And.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that do for those folks who just have

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<v Speaker 1>a different body type.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think it really depends on body type.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's well, some.

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<v Speaker 1>People carry their weight a little bit differently than others

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<v Speaker 1>and they you know, and then of course they don't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything to stop that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And you know, it's I think there's also a

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<v Speaker 3>misconception out there that golf fitness kind of means, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to be in good physical shape, you got

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to have good cardiovascular fitness and run

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<v Speaker 3>three miles and do all that kind of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>really what golf fitness is is it's at bringing back

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<v Speaker 3>of balance into the muscular skeleton system so that your

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<v Speaker 3>body can move efficiently in the skill and activity that

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<v Speaker 3>it's participating in. So it really doesn't matter how much weight,

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<v Speaker 3>whether or not you're overweight or you're underweight, or you're

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<v Speaker 3>at ideal weight. I mean, it's really kind of about

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<v Speaker 3>about the muscles and the ligaments and the tendons and

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<v Speaker 3>the joints and being able to move freely and to

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<v Speaker 3>get into those good hitting positions, you know, being able

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<v Speaker 3>to perform those power moves that all the golf publications

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<v Speaker 3>talk about each month, and that's going to help you

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<v Speaker 3>make better ball contact. That's going to help you get

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<v Speaker 3>more distance down the fairway, and that's going to help

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<v Speaker 3>you play better healthier golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So you're not necessarily when you talk about fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not necessarily speaking of cardiovascular you like we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about last time, it's more about flexibility.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really don't do any cardiovascular with my clients.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. I don't do any cardiovascular at all.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, and don't get me wrong, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta when you're playing golf, you're out there for

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<v Speaker 3>four and five hours, so and especially if you walk

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<v Speaker 3>the golf course. Yeah, I mean, that can take a

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<v Speaker 3>toll on you. So to have a decent amount of

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<v Speaker 3>cardiovascular fitness is actually it will work to your advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. It's when you start getting a little fatigued,

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<v Speaker 3>when you start where your swing starts changing a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit and you start hitting the bad shots and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you definitely want to have a degree of cardiovascular fitness.

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<v Speaker 3>But a large part of golf fitness is really, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, the range of motion, the flexibility, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, certain specific strength in parts of the body

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<v Speaker 3>so that you know you can help stabilize and swing

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<v Speaker 3>a good golf club.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we discussed last time, hydration and nutrition on

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<v Speaker 1>that golf course. Like I know personally, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I really have been very bad this year. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not do a lot of cardio. I do know cardiovascular

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<v Speaker 1>this year, I've just been it's been awful and and

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<v Speaker 1>but I do still prefer to walk on a golf course.

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<v Speaker 1>But I make sure that I have a bottle of

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<v Speaker 1>water with me at the very least if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>hot day, I'll take a Gatorade green thank you. And

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<v Speaker 1>and then like either a bag a three ounce bag

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<v Speaker 1>of nuts or some peanut butter pretzels, and the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>do not fall off my cart or my body late

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<v Speaker 1>in the round. And I feel that that has a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do with it. Oh yeah, I mean, from a nutritional standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>it's important that you know you start sipping water early

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<v Speaker 3>in the realm. You know, you really shouldn't wait till

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<v Speaker 3>you're thirsty. You should never wait till you're thirsty to hydrate,

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<v Speaker 3>but especially when you're out there, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 3>sun and the heat or even on the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>on the cooler days, you know, like we're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>getting into now. I mean, you know you'd be surprised,

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<v Speaker 3>like I say, just being out there and moving the

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<v Speaker 3>body and doing all that kind of stuff. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna lose your water, not only through sweat, but

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<v Speaker 3>through your breathing. And obviously when you're active, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>your respiratory rate picks up, so you tend to lose

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<v Speaker 3>more water. And you know, you do have that that

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<v Speaker 3>sweat that you really don't feel, you know, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>dripping down your face or anything. So you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>constantly are sweating, whether you realize it or not. So

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<v Speaker 3>it is important to make sure that, Yeah, you definitely

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<v Speaker 3>stay hydrated throughout the round, and you do snack on

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<v Speaker 3>you know, good food choices, you know, like like what

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying, fruit or you know some some of these

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<v Speaker 3>bars that are out there now, these protein bars and

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<v Speaker 3>energy bars are pretty decent. You know, even you know,

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<v Speaker 3>peanut butter and jelly familich is good to take out

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<v Speaker 3>there with you as well. But yeah, it's definitely important

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<v Speaker 3>in a vital component of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a couple of words that you've already mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making note of an owner bring them back, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is that you said balance. I know, personally, again,

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<v Speaker 1>mainly on my driver, I tend to swing too hard

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<v Speaker 1>and fall over backwards after my swing and when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very conscious of it and try to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>at my lower half of my body stays quiet and

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<v Speaker 1>there's less movement there. I also, uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>stay in position better after you know, on my follow

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<v Speaker 1>through my swing, my balance is better, and strangely enough

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<v Speaker 1>I get greater distance on those shots and it's usually straighter.

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<v Speaker 3>M Well, balance, yeah, there's two. Really, balance is used

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<v Speaker 3>in two different ways here. Balance, in what you were

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<v Speaker 3>just talking about, is very essential in golf, and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people don't really think about balance, and

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<v Speaker 3>they don't practice or train for balance. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as we tend to get older, we we tend to

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<v Speaker 3>start becoming a little bit more susceptible to being in

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<v Speaker 3>balance and to fall a little bit more. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that and again it's because we don't really work

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<v Speaker 3>at it. I mean, did you get up this morning

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<v Speaker 3>and then get on one foot and balance on one

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<v Speaker 3>foot and see how long you can stay on that foot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm sure a lot of people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh good, that was that was a rhetorical.

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<v Speaker 3>Question, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know when

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<v Speaker 3>and part of the assessment that I do on golfer

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<v Speaker 3>is there is a balance element. And you'd be surprised,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean how many I would say, close to eighty

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<v Speaker 3>five ninety percent really, you know, have some issues with balance,

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<v Speaker 3>and when you're moving your body part, you know, your

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<v Speaker 3>body parts in different directions all at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, balance becomes a vital component. And as you're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to shift your weight, you know, from your trail

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<v Speaker 3>leg to your target leg. I mean, if you have

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<v Speaker 3>a balance issue, that's gonna kind of play havoc with

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<v Speaker 3>that correlates to, you know, the inability to maintain balance

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't, I mean, just to practice it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>that you know you're kind of balancing out your balance

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<v Speaker 3>sort of speak. But the other balance that I was

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<v Speaker 3>mentioning prior was about balance in the muscular skeletal system them,

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<v Speaker 3>because playing golf will actually create imbalances in your body

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<v Speaker 3>because of the nature of the sport. It's repetitive and

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<v Speaker 3>So over time, you know, you develop these deficiencies and

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<v Speaker 3>then these imbalances in your body from playing in activity

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<v Speaker 3>really any good fitness program, I mean, if you went

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<v Speaker 3>you would want them to do would be to assess you,

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<v Speaker 3>to see where your imbalances are, where your deficiencies are,

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<v Speaker 3>and to first correct those deficiencies so that you bring

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<v Speaker 3>balance back into your system. And we're talking left to right,

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<v Speaker 3>when you do like I say, you're allowing the body

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<v Speaker 3>once you do that, then you can progress into more

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<v Speaker 3>specific sport related strength. And because now you're in balance,

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<v Speaker 3>the results that you're going to get will be better

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<v Speaker 3>those nagging aches and pains that we develop, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>the lower back gosh, I mean, you know the prevalence

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<v Speaker 3>most golfers, male, female, all levels. It's those imbalances in

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not till you really correct those those imbalances,

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<v Speaker 3>those mechanisms for injury, that you really correct the problem

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, well, unfortunately, I know, well, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to bring back Catherine Roberts of yoga for golfers because

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, as I admit that I have

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I still try to do twenty minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>a half hour of yoga every morning, let's call it,

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<v Speaker 1>four mornings a week and that and I can really

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<v Speaker 1>tell what my balance is like there, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I either have to stand on my head or I

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<v Speaker 1>a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, definitely, I would say it probably does a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yoga's great and unfortunately though a lot of guys don't

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<v Speaker 3>take yoga, and they should. I mean, going to any

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<v Speaker 3>going to any yoga class. I bet you your yoga class,

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably more women than men.

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<v Speaker 1>There are both. Yeah, we both have men and women.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say, yes, there's more women. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have found a great. Actually it's I don't even do

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<v Speaker 1>a class. I found a great website on my iPad

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<v Speaker 1>and videos right there, and it's called Yoga Glow. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a monthly fee, but it's so worth it for

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<v Speaker 1>me to have that and just not have to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the house. And there's this one teacher I think is phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's been really easy to make a nice

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<v Speaker 1>yoga and there's ten, fifteen, twenty, thirty, forty five, ninety,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sixty ninety minute different practices on there, so

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<v Speaker 1>it really works for my schedule and I I it's addicting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that sounds like a good deal because, like I say,

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<v Speaker 3>more people really need to get into programs like yoga

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<v Speaker 3>and pilates to work on flexibility, range of motion, and

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<v Speaker 3>for golf, I mean that if you're going to work

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<v Speaker 1>One interesting you also mentioned earlier when we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about balance and the positions, you talked about the magazines,

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<v Speaker 1>and there seems to be you know, we all know

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<v Speaker 1>how many golf magazines there are, and the cover every month,

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<v Speaker 1>one way or another says greater distance. In this article,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get greater distance and learn the new

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<v Speaker 1>twisted spine swing things, and I avoid them at all costs.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is your what's your take on what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the magazines and what they're promising us and

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<v Speaker 1>and how we're going to increase our power by whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is they offer.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Well, I mean, you know they're hit.

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<v Speaker 3>They're hitting the buttons, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no question about it. They listen. Is their primary

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<v Speaker 1>goal to educate or to sell magazine magazine? Right exactly? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to me. It's all about education. If we

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<v Speaker 1>can educate, then we're going to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know. And I think the journals and the

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<v Speaker 3>publications do a great job at offering tips and telling you,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that you need to have a big shoulder

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<v Speaker 3>turn for power and you need to maintain a good

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<v Speaker 3>risk hinge in the downswing to generate more power and

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to get you more distance. But the the

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<v Speaker 3>issue I have with the journals, and hopefully that'll change,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, as golf fitness becomes more prominent and more

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<v Speaker 3>people are you know, buying into it in the industry,

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<v Speaker 3>is that they need to tell you how to get

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<v Speaker 3>into those positions or what may be your restrictions physical

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<v Speaker 3>restrictions for getting into those positions, because you know, for

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<v Speaker 3>the average golfer, you know, it picks up a journal

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<v Speaker 3>and says, oh, Okay, I just got to make a

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<v Speaker 3>bigger shoulder turn, and when they go out there try

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<v Speaker 3>to do it, they can't because they got physical weaknesses

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<v Speaker 3>or tightnesses that just aren't allow allowing them to do that, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And it would be great for these journals to follow

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<v Speaker 3>up with, Okay, you've got to make a big shoulder turn,

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<v Speaker 3>and here are some possibilities. Here are some scenarios that

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<v Speaker 3>you may fall into, and you may have a tight

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<v Speaker 3>mid back which is restricting your ability to make a

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<v Speaker 3>good turn. And you know, here are some exercises to

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<v Speaker 3>help you remedy that situation, you know, kind of get

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<v Speaker 3>into some different scenarios and some examples of how to

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, well, yeah, and the and the photographs

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to show of people doing these big

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder turns. They're either tour players, or they're golf instructors

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<v Speaker 1>or their fitness instructors or their golfers like Michael Hamill,

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<v Speaker 1>which is yeah, right, you and Michael is a golf

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<v Speaker 1>smarter listener, but he is a workout fanatic and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got this amazing body and he does YouTube videos and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and just come on, what about Joe Schmoe.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the you know, the weekend golfer who you

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<v Speaker 1>know is not is getting older, doesn't have the flexibility.

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<v Speaker 1>What about pictures of those guys and really showcase to

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<v Speaker 1>us what can we really do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, and it's funny you bring that up,

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<v Speaker 3>because I did write about that in one of my articles.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how uh you know, the butch Harmons of

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<v Speaker 3>the World and the other you know, famous golf pro teachers.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they tell you how to get into these positions,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, the pictures they have and there are there

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<v Speaker 3>students and they professional golfers who spend two, three, four

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<v Speaker 3>hours a day with a personal trainer doing specific exercises

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<v Speaker 3>so that they can get into these positions and then

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<v Speaker 3>going out you know, on the on the golf course

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<v Speaker 3>and practicing for three or four five hours. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you. You know, for the average golfer

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<v Speaker 3>to try to get into a lot of these positions,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's it's it's a it's a tough it's

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<v Speaker 3>an uphill battle.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they really power positions? They? What are they selling

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<v Speaker 1>when they say that? I mean obviously what they're pumping,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is you're going to get more distancing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, can they be detrimental these these things they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to show us?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, if for the average golfer, who who?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you know, most golfers don't realize that it's their

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<v Speaker 3>own bodies that are holding them back from playing better golf.

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<v Speaker 3>And so they pick up a magazine and they and

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<v Speaker 3>they read about these various positions you need to get into,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they go out and try to do this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And because they're not physically prepared well to do that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it can increase the risk of injury. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always compensation going on, and that sets you up

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<v Speaker 3>for injury as opposed to you know, let's just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stick to a standard swing and you know, let's

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<v Speaker 3>take a look at your body to see where the

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<v Speaker 3>restrictions are and let's correct those so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting, and so then what I'm curious when when

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<v Speaker 1>it talks about these positions, and we've talked about so often.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you've got to start with PGA position, grip

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<v Speaker 1>and alignment, or actually posture, grip and alignment. These positions.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it address the fact that, and from what I've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>most golfers don't have the correct posture when they're addressing

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, gosh, I mean, you know, the sea posture,

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of the bullying of the back when a

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<v Speaker 3>golfer stands over the ball. It used to be a

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<v Speaker 3>older golfers disease, but nowadays, I tell you, Fred, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just unbelievable how many sea postures I'm seeing, even in

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<v Speaker 3>the younger golfers. Oh oh, gosha. And the reason is computers.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the fact that many of us are sitting

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<v Speaker 3>The body basically adapts to the position that it's placed

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<v Speaker 3>in most of the time. So when you're hunched over

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<v Speaker 3>a computer, basically your shoulders are around it, right yep,

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<v Speaker 3>And so that shortens the muscles in the chest area.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you shorten a muscle over time, it basically

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<v Speaker 3>tightens and it elongates the muscles in the upper back.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you elongate a muscle, you weaken. So what

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<v Speaker 3>happens is and you can see this in you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're in the mall or when you're at the

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<v Speaker 3>beach next summer. I mean, look at people's posture, even

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<v Speaker 3>the young kids. It's terrible. The amount of rounded shoulders

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<v Speaker 3>that are out there are unbelievable. It's like an epidemic.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what happens is, you know, you're a golfer,

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<v Speaker 3>you're spending eight hours a day hunched over a computer,

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<v Speaker 3>and then on the weekends you go out and you

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<v Speaker 3>posture out there with you. So right away you're setting

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<v Speaker 3>yourself out. You know, uh, coming out of the gate

421
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<v Speaker 3>of not being able to make an efficient swing because

422
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<v Speaker 3>of rounded seat posture will reduce your back swing by

423
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<v Speaker 3>about thirty percent. So you can't make that good shoulder turn.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't get the club back far enough to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to generate enough clubhead speed to get power and distance,

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<v Speaker 3>so you run into issues. I work with a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of dentists and almost every single one of them have

428
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<v Speaker 3>sea posture because they're hunched over their patients all day,

429
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<v Speaker 3>you know, working on their teeth, So you know, stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that. You know, lifestyle that we allude to can

431
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<v Speaker 3>really impact your golf game and a lot of for

432
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of average golfers are just not aware of

433
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<v Speaker 3>the fact that their posture is terrible. And it's unless somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, says, hey, do you know you're you're really

435
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<v Speaker 3>hunched over that ball and do you know that it's

436
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<v Speaker 3>going to affect your swing? And YadA YadA YadA. I mean,

437
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<v Speaker 3>the only way to really get the club back when

438
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<v Speaker 3>you're in a sea posture is to stand up while

439
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<v Speaker 3>you're swinging the club back. So what's going to happen

440
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<v Speaker 3>is you're going to change your swing plane. That's gonna mess.

441
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<v Speaker 3>Balance can be an issue, So I mean, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole host of things that can develop from having bad

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<v Speaker 3>posture over the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you expand on YadA YadA YadA? Please? I've been

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for somebody to say YadA YadA YadA for years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what do you specifically what do you specifically

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<v Speaker 1>mean about ya? Sorry for interrupting. What were you about

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<v Speaker 1>to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the other thing is, you know, the other pasture

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm seeing a lot is the s posture, which

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<v Speaker 3>is characterized by an excessive arch in the lower back,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's more predominant in women and in younger golfers.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a visual, because I'm not as looking from

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<v Speaker 1>which direction are we talking about like a curvature of

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<v Speaker 1>the spine or are we like, yeah, chest out, butt up?

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<v Speaker 3>What do we hear? It's kind of like your lower

457
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<v Speaker 3>back is arched and your butt is sticking out. Okay,

458
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<v Speaker 3>all right? And like I say, it's more predominant in

459
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<v Speaker 3>women and in younger golfers. And the big reason is,

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<v Speaker 3>again it's due to a deficiency in the body. Women

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<v Speaker 3>tend to have tighter hip flexor muscles, which are the

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<v Speaker 3>muscles in the front part of the hip. Women are

463
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<v Speaker 3>from Venus, men are from Mars. It's just a phenomena.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know why it happens. It's all the golfers I test.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, women tend to be tighter and the hip flexers.

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<v Speaker 3>Men tend to be tighter in the handstrings, which are

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<v Speaker 3>in the back of the thigh, and that can lead

468
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<v Speaker 3>up to back issues. But the yes posture, and again,

469
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<v Speaker 3>this seems to be one of the biggest articles that

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<v Speaker 3>gets a lot of hits on my website each month,

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<v Speaker 3>So there must be a lot of individuals and they're

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<v Speaker 3>suffering from back issues and who have s posture, whether

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<v Speaker 3>they realize it or not, but the s posture with

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<v Speaker 3>that excessive swaying of the back is just going to

475
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<v Speaker 3>kill the back over time. I mean kill the back.

476
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<v Speaker 3>I mean just try standing up and arching your back,

477
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<v Speaker 3>get into your golf stance, arch your back, and then

478
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<v Speaker 3>swing a golf club and you'll know how painful that

479
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<v Speaker 3>can be. So imagine doing that again and again and

480
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<v Speaker 3>again and again and again. A lot of it is

481
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<v Speaker 3>because of the fact that those hip flexers are tight.

482
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<v Speaker 3>And going back to sitting, when you sit, you're going

483
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<v Speaker 3>to put those hip flexers in a shortened position. And

484
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<v Speaker 3>again when you shorten them, you tighten them. And so

485
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<v Speaker 3>over time, you know, your lifestyle can impact your golf game.

486
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<v Speaker 3>And I got an article on the website that just

487
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<v Speaker 3>talk specifically about how sitting can wreck havoc on your

488
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<v Speaker 3>golf swing. I do a workshop I go around the

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<v Speaker 3>area here and do the workshop for a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>businesses called the Anatomy of a Sitter, And it was

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<v Speaker 3>based on you know, what I was seeing in the

492
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<v Speaker 3>sea posture and younger golfers and kind of led me

493
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<v Speaker 3>to do some research on this, and there seems to

494
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<v Speaker 3>be more and more coming out now about the negative

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<v Speaker 3>consequences health consequences of sitting. It's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Chairs are sheer hell for me. Yeah, chair. I have

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<v Speaker 1>switched and purchased so many chairs it's unbelievable. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>always I'm a dusk jockey. I you know, I'm at

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<v Speaker 1>my desk many many hours a day in a row,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just have a lot of trouble with my

501
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<v Speaker 1>lower back and it's been It wasn't until first I

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<v Speaker 1>started sitting on one of those exercise balls for many years.

503
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<v Speaker 1>But then I found a chair that mimics one of

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<v Speaker 1>those balls and it forces me to sit up straight

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been hugely beneficial for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, we talked about the hamstrings.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the tightness the hamstrings, which is the muscles

508
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<v Speaker 3>in the back of the thigh or one of the

509
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<v Speaker 3>major risks for low back discomfort because of the relationship

510
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<v Speaker 3>the ham strings have on the hip bone and because

511
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<v Speaker 3>what they do to the hip bone, they basically it

512
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<v Speaker 3>usually takes about the third decade for people to start

513
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<v Speaker 3>experiencing back issues from muscle deficiency, and so those tight

514
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<v Speaker 3>hamstrings are going to pull that hip bone down kind

515
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<v Speaker 3>of towards the back. It's going to rotate the hip

516
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<v Speaker 3>towards the back. And so what that does is because

517
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<v Speaker 3>the lower back muscles are attached to the top half

518
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<v Speaker 3>of that hip bone, as it rotates down, it stretches

519
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<v Speaker 3>out the low back muscles and at least them in

520
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<v Speaker 3>a taunt position. So early signs and symptoms are you

521
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<v Speaker 3>sit for a long periods of time, you get up,

522
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<v Speaker 3>your back's a low tight. You play around the golf

523
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<v Speaker 3>your next day or two, your back's a little tight.

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<v Speaker 3>The more serious consequence is as that hip bone rotates,

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<v Speaker 3>it also will take that normal curve in your lower

526
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<v Speaker 3>spine and the lumbar spine. It'll straighten it out. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to deviate from that normal curve. It's

528
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<v Speaker 3>there for a reason. If you straighten it out, or

529
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<v Speaker 3>if you increase the curve, you start putting more pressure

530
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<v Speaker 3>on the disks in between the bones and your spine,

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<v Speaker 3>and you start to wear out those disks faster. And

532
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<v Speaker 3>that's when you start putting pressure on the nerve roots,

533
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<v Speaker 3>you know, and getting into the sciatica, you just get

534
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 3>back pain and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and

535
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 3>so sitting will also shorten hamstrings as it does hip flexers. Now,

536
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<v Speaker 3>the tight hip flexers pull the hip bone in the

537
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<v Speaker 3>opposite direction. It kind of rotates it down forward, and

538
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 3>that increases that curve in the lower back and creates

539
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:52.880
<v Speaker 3>that sway back. And that's why a lot of women

540
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<v Speaker 3>tend to have those tight hip flexers, and they tend

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<v Speaker 3>to have that s posture, and you know their backs

542
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 3>are killing them. So either way, you know, tightness and

543
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:08.440
<v Speaker 3>the inflixors, tightness and hamstrings, and you're gonna have issues.

544
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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell you how many times you know. And

545
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<v Speaker 3>I work a lot with low back people who have

546
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<v Speaker 3>even gone through surgeries and have the ruptured discs. The

547
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 3>problem is in many cases is they don't look for

548
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<v Speaker 3>the mechanism of injury. They treat the pain, but they

549
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 3>don't treat the reason, you know, the cause of how

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<v Speaker 3>you got to the pain. And in many cases it's

551
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<v Speaker 3>that the imbalances in the muscle that create the misalignment.

552
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<v Speaker 3>I can't tell you how many people that you know,

553
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<v Speaker 3>I've worked with that you identify the deficiency and then

554
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.400
<v Speaker 3>you give them some stretches to do, and it's amazing

555
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<v Speaker 3>how much better they feel.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised at all. Yeah, I'm not surprised at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many more questions for you. I really

558
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<v Speaker 1>like to talk about golf injuries and where they come

559
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 1>from and what we can do about them, and various

560
00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>things about how the swing can screw up your spine

561
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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. I really have a lot more questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you stick around and we will record part two

563
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<v Speaker 1>of this conversation?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome? All right, Well that will be next episode and

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<v Speaker 1>it will be a Golf Smarter for members only. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you have had any aha moments in the past

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes, because I've had four, then I encourage you

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<v Speaker 1>please to join golf Smarter for members only at golfsmarter

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and take advantage of the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>will have a new episode of Golf Smarter every single week.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get to hear part two of this conversation and

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<v Speaker 1>part two of all those conversations that you've missed, and

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<v Speaker 1>have complete access to our archives of seven years of

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<v Speaker 1>Golf Smarter podcasts that all have content that you will have.

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<v Speaker 1>You could potentially have an aha moment. So before we leave,

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<v Speaker 1>for those who are not Golf Smarter members, Bob, tell

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<v Speaker 1>them how to get in touch with you on what

579
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<v Speaker 1>your website is.

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<v Speaker 3>Please, my website is www.

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<v Speaker 1>We did this before. You don't need the www, Bob.

582
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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Bob, you don't need take two.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on golf the golf website. Golf fitness website is

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<v Speaker 3>golf fit Carolina dot com. It's g O L F

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<v Speaker 3>I T. Carolina dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent and you have articles on there as well, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Articles, yep, videos. I post stuff, new stuff every month.

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<v Speaker 3>I post a new exercise of the month usually the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the month, and a lot of good information

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<v Speaker 3>on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, All right, stick around Part two coming up. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob, No problem, my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I am so happy to welcome terror Kayler back,

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<v Speaker 1>Terry the wedge guy Kaylor And this is our score

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Terry, how you doing I'm break fret How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing very well?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>In a brief overview if you're new to our score

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<v Speaker 1>Zone Short Game Academy. Terry is the CEO of score Golf,

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<v Speaker 1>But we're going to tackle one question today, and the

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<v Speaker 1>question from Derek Zascow means that Derek is going to

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<v Speaker 1>golfsmarter dot com. It says score Zone, Show Game Academy,

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<v Speaker 1>submit your question, and if we use it on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to your own customized score forty one sixty

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<v Speaker 1>Switchblade divid tool, the greatest divid repaired tool in the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know this for a fact because I do

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<v Speaker 1>all this research and I'm making this up. So Terry,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to the Let's get to the question, and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek is probably on the same question for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Derek from Santa Fe, New Mexico, all conditions

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<v Speaker 1>being equal, what do you think has more control for

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<v Speaker 1>in between distance shots stepping on a gap wedge or

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<v Speaker 1>easing up on the pitching wedge.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, my answer is neither one, and let me explain that,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you. When we have a short club in our hand,

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<v Speaker 5>a wedge or a short term, we're looking for pinpoint

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<v Speaker 5>distance control. Da've Pelts has done a lot of research

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<v Speaker 5>on this and shown that inside nine iron range people

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<v Speaker 5>tend to not miss left and right as badly as

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<v Speaker 5>they miss long and short. And there are two parts

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<v Speaker 5>of missing long and short. One is just simply missiting

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<v Speaker 5>the shot, catching it thin or catching it heavy, laying

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<v Speaker 5>the sod over on it as it were. One of

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<v Speaker 5>the other problems is that we're trying to step up

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<v Speaker 5>or ease up on these different shots to hit our

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<v Speaker 5>end between yardages. I think there's two solutions to this.

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<v Speaker 5>Two parts of the solution Derek. Here. One is to

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<v Speaker 5>go out with your laser rangefinder or even step it

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<v Speaker 5>off if you need to, and find out what is

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<v Speaker 5>your comfortable full swing distance with each of your scoring

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<v Speaker 5>clubs nine, your pitch, your gap your sand, your lob,

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<v Speaker 5>whatever you carry there and monitor these gaps. Measure them

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<v Speaker 5>out and find out, well, I think a gap which

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<v Speaker 5>is one hundred and five, but is it really Go

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<v Speaker 5>out and hit five or six balls of your gap.

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<v Speaker 3>Wey, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Leave your bag there, take your laser rangefinder, walk down,

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<v Speaker 5>find the center of that pattern, and shoot back to

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<v Speaker 5>your bag and say, okay, I thought it was one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and five, but the center of this pattern is

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<v Speaker 5>really ninety eight. And do that for each of your

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<v Speaker 5>scoring clubs. Because there is a hard math built into

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<v Speaker 5>your set. You may find that you have fourteen yards

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<v Speaker 5>between your pitch and your gap, but twelve or sixteen

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<v Speaker 5>yards between your gap and your sand. What you're shooting

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<v Speaker 5>for is consistent gapping. But to know these yardages, I

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<v Speaker 5>wrote a book called the score Method that's available on

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<v Speaker 5>our website if you hunt around for it. That is

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<v Speaker 5>about then dissecting those gap. It's not by stepping on

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<v Speaker 5>it or easing up, but by changing your hand position

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<v Speaker 5>gripping down on the club, I can take off about

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<v Speaker 5>a third to a half of the distance gap. Gripping

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<v Speaker 5>down another half inch, which will take off a little more.

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<v Speaker 5>You can build a measure of precision without thinking about

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<v Speaker 5>swinging harder or swinging easier, just by changing the link

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<v Speaker 5>of the golf club, which produces a little less yards

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<v Speaker 5>than that club did it at full swing full length.

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<v Speaker 5>You can then dissect that with a very slightly open

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<v Speaker 5>club face. Again. This book called score Method dives into that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I want to go into the other side of

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<v Speaker 5>this question. And you're talking about stepping up on a

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<v Speaker 5>gap wedge, a full swing with a with a high

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<v Speaker 5>loft golf club, what we call a full sandwich or

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<v Speaker 5>a full pitching wedger. A full nine iron is not

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<v Speaker 5>anywhere near as heart of a golf swing as a

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<v Speaker 5>full five iron or a full free wood. These are

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<v Speaker 5>precision golf clubs. And when you back off on them

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit and throttle down this little bit and

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<v Speaker 5>need to find you can considerate que full swing, you'll

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<v Speaker 5>find that your projector comes down, your consistency of impact

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<v Speaker 5>will improve dramatically, and your distance control will therefore get

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<v Speaker 5>more consistent. It really doesn't matter whether you hit a

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<v Speaker 5>pitching wedge one ten or one twenty or one forty.

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<v Speaker 5>The key is can you do that consistently? Can you

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<v Speaker 5>stand there at one forty going I know this is

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<v Speaker 5>a full swing pitching wedge and hit it. Or can

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<v Speaker 5>you stand there at one oh five and say, I

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<v Speaker 5>know this is a full swing pitching wedge and then

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<v Speaker 5>hit it one oh five? So control your gaps. You'll

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<v Speaker 5>measure your gaps like going out on the range, and

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<v Speaker 5>then dissect your gaps not by stepping on it, not

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<v Speaker 5>by easing up, but by changing your hand position on

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<v Speaker 5>the grip to shorten the club. I have a three

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<v Speaker 5>quarter in and watch what happens. Am wonderful exercise to

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<v Speaker 5>go through to learn about your golf clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I want to, uh, I hope everyone got that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we had a little bit of a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with the Skype signal, but it seemed like we I go.

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to follow along even though it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of choppy. I still got the crux of absolutely everything

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<v Speaker 1>you said. So I want to, you know, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>and if and if anyone's been having trouble with that,

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<v Speaker 1>please let me know and and get back to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Just email me and we'll we'll work on that and

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<v Speaker 1>we can even redo the question if you want. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure you got everything. I sure didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was great advice Terry, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>another Square Zone Short game Academy and two more episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see you then.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be great bread and look forward to it.
