1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Golf Smarter number three hundred and fifty nine, published on 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,759 November twenty seven, twenty twelve. 3 00:00:06,919 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,599 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 5 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:21,600 Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our 6 00:00:21,719 --> 00:00:26,519 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,160 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,359 Speaker 3: Part of the assessment that I do on golfer is 9 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:35,119 there is a balance element, and you'd be surprised how 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,320 many I would say close to eighty five ninety percent 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,240 really have some issues with balance. And when you're moving 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,119 your body parts in different directions all at the same time, 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,359 I mean, balance becomes a vital component as you're trying 14 00:00:47,359 --> 00:00:50,240 to shift your weight from your trail leg to your 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,320 target leg. I mean, if you have a balance issue 16 00:00:52,359 --> 00:00:54,640 and that's going to play havoc with your swing and 17 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:57,679 your playing performance, you know, we don't practice it. The 18 00:00:57,759 --> 00:01:01,039 second issue is that a lot of us and to 19 00:01:01,119 --> 00:01:05,359 lose strength, especially in the lower body. That correlates to 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,280 the inability to maintain balance and such. So it's important 21 00:01:10,359 --> 00:01:12,879 to make sure that you do, get checked for balance, 22 00:01:12,879 --> 00:01:15,280 and even if you don't, I mean just to practice it. 23 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,680 Just try to balance on one leg and see if 24 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:19,920 you have a tougher time trying to balance on your 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,239 right leg versus your left leg. You'd be surprised how 26 00:01:22,239 --> 00:01:25,120 many people are good on one side but terrible on 27 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:27,040 the other. You just need to work on it to 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,680 make sure that you're kind of balancing out. It's your balance, 29 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:30,359 so to speak. 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Your posture could be the key to fixing your game. 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,040 With Bob Forma, this is Golf Smarter. 32 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 4: Each week we tap the best minds in golf to 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,400 help lower your scores with tips, drills, insights and advice 34 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:56,400 in conversation with course pros, architects, authors, players, teaching gurus 35 00:01:56,439 --> 00:01:59,480 and coaches. Here's your host, Fred Green. 36 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:03,599 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast, Bob Hik. 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,719 Speaker 3: Fred, good to be back. 38 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,799 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for Green to come on. Why 39 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:10,439 don't you give us a quick recap of why we're 40 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:12,000 having you on the show. What is it that you 41 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,000 do well? 42 00:02:14,039 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: I do golf fitness, programming, assessment and training and education. 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,879 I'm an exercise physiologist by trade, which means I study 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,000 the effects of exercise on the body. Always had an 45 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:28,879 interest in combining golf, which I enjoyed playing and exercise, 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,400 and went to the two thousand and six World Golf 47 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:36,120 Fitness Summit in Orlando when the co founders of the 48 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:39,879 Titlist Performance Institute presented. There then ten years of research 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,639 into the physical nature of the golf swing, and the 50 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,599 information they provided was unbelievable, a wow moment which basically 51 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,560 changed the industry, changed the game overnight because prior to that, 52 00:02:53,719 --> 00:02:57,360 I mean, everybody thought that golf and exercise was like 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,919 oil and water had just been mixed, right, And since 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,719 that time, it's been one hundred and eighty degrees. And 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,240 now everybody basically is you know, all the guys on 56 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,439 tours and the gals on tour, and as word is 57 00:03:11,479 --> 00:03:15,080 getting out thanks to shows, you know, podcasts like yours 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,840 and Thank You, you know that people are becoming aware 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,240 of the fact that this exercise, now specific exercise can 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,120 actually help their game and actually help alleviate and prevent 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,919 a lot of the golf related injuries. 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,479 Speaker 1: Like all the equipment that's out there, all the new 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,360 equipment and balls, clothes, whatever, it is, nothing seems to 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,439 gain any traction until one player on the tour, at 65 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,479 least one high profile player on the tour starts using it, 66 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,520 and then everyone says me, I want to do that? 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:49,599 Speaker 5: Was there? 68 00:03:50,639 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Can this be attributed to any specific player on this 69 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:55,919 whole revolution of golf fitness? 70 00:03:57,159 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the first yeah, I mean Tiger. Tiger 71 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:03,639 was you know, one of the the highlights in terms 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,840 of his workouts and stuff like that. You know, Gary 73 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,199 player has been talking about this. 74 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:10,919 Speaker 1: For years, Yes he has, you. 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: Know, and I think unfortunately with Gary, there was really 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,439 no research to back what he was saying. And you know, 77 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,160 it wasn't until back in two thousand and six when 78 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:24,439 all the research did come out that we finally said, yeah, 79 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:28,680 Gary's right, you know, the exercise and strength training specifically 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,839 can help a golfer. And then you know Tiger and 81 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:35,399 now basically everybody on the PGA Tour is doing it. 82 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,399 I don't think you're going to get on the PGA 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,439 Tour if you're not doing some sort of exercise, because 84 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,439 you know, from what I understand, from what I hear, 85 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,959 a lot of the folks and both the men and 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,120 women tours are you know, getting involved in getting trainers 87 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:53,879 and working out on a regular basis, And. 88 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: What does that do for those folks who just have 89 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,360 a different body type. 90 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it really depends on body type. 91 00:05:03,079 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 5: You know. 92 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:04,199 Speaker 3: It's well, some. 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: People carry their weight a little bit differently than others 94 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:09,560 and they you know, and then of course they don't 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,759 do anything to stop that. 96 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, it's I think there's also a 97 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:21,439 misconception out there that golf fitness kind of means, you know, 98 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:24,480 you've got to be in good physical shape, you got 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,439 to be able to have good cardiovascular fitness and run 100 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,399 three miles and do all that kind of stuff. But 101 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,959 really what golf fitness is is it's at bringing back 102 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:42,000 of balance into the muscular skeleton system so that your 103 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,040 body can move efficiently in the skill and activity that 104 00:05:47,079 --> 00:05:51,079 it's participating in. So it really doesn't matter how much weight, 105 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,399 whether or not you're overweight or you're underweight, or you're 106 00:05:55,399 --> 00:05:58,839 at ideal weight. I mean, it's really kind of about 107 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,040 about the muscles and the ligaments and the tendons and 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,519 the joints and being able to move freely and to 109 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,560 get into those good hitting positions, you know, being able 110 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,319 to perform those power moves that all the golf publications 111 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:19,480 talk about each month, and that's going to help you 112 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,800 make better ball contact. That's going to help you get 113 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,000 more distance down the fairway, and that's going to help 114 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,680 you play better healthier golf. 115 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Uh So you're not necessarily when you talk about fitness, 116 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:38,759 you're not necessarily speaking of cardiovascular you like we talked 117 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:41,360 about last time, it's more about flexibility. 118 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really don't do any cardiovascular with my clients. 119 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: That's funny. I don't do any cardiovascular at all. 120 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,879 Speaker 3: So I mean, and don't get me wrong, you know, 121 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,560 you gotta when you're playing golf, you're out there for 122 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,439 four and five hours, so and especially if you walk 123 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,639 the golf course. Yeah, I mean, that can take a 124 00:07:00,639 --> 00:07:04,480 toll on you. So to have a decent amount of 125 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,160 cardiovascular fitness is actually it will work to your advantage. 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,560 You know. It's when you start getting a little fatigued, 127 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,759 when you start where your swing starts changing a little 128 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:16,079 bit and you start hitting the bad shots and all that. 129 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,879 So you definitely want to have a degree of cardiovascular fitness. 130 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,399 But a large part of golf fitness is really, you know, 131 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:29,199 like you said, the range of motion, the flexibility, and 132 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,639 you know, certain specific strength in parts of the body 133 00:07:34,839 --> 00:07:37,920 so that you know you can help stabilize and swing 134 00:07:38,399 --> 00:07:39,319 a good golf club. 135 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: And as we discussed last time, hydration and nutrition on 136 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:47,360 that golf course. Like I know personally, like I said, 137 00:07:47,399 --> 00:07:50,160 I really have been very bad this year. I do 138 00:07:50,279 --> 00:07:53,959 not do a lot of cardio. I do know cardiovascular 139 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,040 this year, I've just been it's been awful and and 140 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:01,560 but I do still prefer to walk on a golf course. 141 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,800 But I make sure that I have a bottle of 142 00:08:04,839 --> 00:08:06,680 water with me at the very least if it's a 143 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,680 hot day, I'll take a Gatorade green thank you. And 144 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,120 and then like either a bag a three ounce bag 145 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,639 of nuts or some peanut butter pretzels, and the wheels 146 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,480 do not fall off my cart or my body late 147 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,120 in the round. And I feel that that has a 148 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,040 tremendous amount to. 149 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: Do with it. Oh yeah, I mean, from a nutritional standpoint, 150 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,200 it's important that you know you start sipping water early 151 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:36,240 in the realm. You know, you really shouldn't wait till 152 00:08:36,279 --> 00:08:39,600 you're thirsty. You should never wait till you're thirsty to hydrate, 153 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,840 but especially when you're out there, you know, in the 154 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:46,080 sun and the heat or even on the you know, 155 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,000 on the cooler days, you know, like we're kind of 156 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,080 getting into now. I mean, you know you'd be surprised, 157 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,200 like I say, just being out there and moving the 158 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:55,679 body and doing all that kind of stuff. I mean, 159 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,480 you're gonna lose your water, not only through sweat, but 160 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,360 through your breathing. And obviously when you're active, you're gonna 161 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,159 your respiratory rate picks up, so you tend to lose 162 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,519 more water. And you know, you do have that that 163 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:13,360 sweat that you really don't feel, you know, that's not 164 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,919 dripping down your face or anything. So you know, you're 165 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,440 constantly are sweating, whether you realize it or not. So 166 00:09:19,519 --> 00:09:22,440 it is important to make sure that, Yeah, you definitely 167 00:09:22,879 --> 00:09:26,360 stay hydrated throughout the round, and you do snack on 168 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,639 you know, good food choices, you know, like like what 169 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,879 you're saying, fruit or you know some some of these 170 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,279 bars that are out there now, these protein bars and 171 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,279 energy bars are pretty decent. You know, even you know, 172 00:09:40,399 --> 00:09:42,960 peanut butter and jelly familich is good to take out 173 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,639 there with you as well. But yeah, it's definitely important 174 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,720 in a vital component of the game. 175 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: There's a couple of words that you've already mentioned that 176 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:00,759 I'm making note of an owner bring them back, and 177 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:05,159 one of them is that you said balance. I know, personally, again, 178 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,639 mainly on my driver, I tend to swing too hard 179 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:14,799 and fall over backwards after my swing and when I'm 180 00:10:14,919 --> 00:10:16,600 very conscious of it and try to make sure that 181 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:20,440 at my lower half of my body stays quiet and 182 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,759 there's less movement there. I also, uh, you know, I 183 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:26,679 stay in position better after you know, on my follow 184 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,759 through my swing, my balance is better, and strangely enough 185 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,759 I get greater distance on those shots and it's usually straighter. 186 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: M Well, balance, yeah, there's two. Really, balance is used 187 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,120 in two different ways here. Balance, in what you were 188 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,960 just talking about, is very essential in golf, and unfortunately 189 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,840 a lot of people don't really think about balance, and 190 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:58,519 they don't practice or train for balance. And you know, 191 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,879 as we tend to get older, we we tend to 192 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:05,320 start becoming a little bit more susceptible to being in 193 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:10,320 balance and to fall a little bit more. But it's 194 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,879 something that and again it's because we don't really work 195 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,399 at it. I mean, did you get up this morning 196 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:17,639 and then get on one foot and balance on one 197 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,840 foot and see how long you can stay on that foot. 198 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:22,399 You know, I'm sure a lot of people don't. 199 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh good, that was that was a rhetorical. 200 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:29,919 Speaker 3: Question, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know when 201 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:32,360 and part of the assessment that I do on golfer 202 00:11:32,399 --> 00:11:34,919 is there is a balance element. And you'd be surprised, 203 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,120 I mean how many I would say, close to eighty 204 00:11:38,159 --> 00:11:41,559 five ninety percent really, you know, have some issues with balance, 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,799 and when you're moving your body part, you know, your 206 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:47,519 body parts in different directions all at the same time. 207 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,240 I mean, balance becomes a vital component. And as you're 208 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,840 trying to shift your weight, you know, from your trail 209 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:55,840 leg to your target leg. I mean, if you have 210 00:11:55,879 --> 00:11:58,879 a balance issue, that's gonna kind of play havoc with 211 00:11:59,039 --> 00:12:03,519 your swing in your playing performance. So a lot of 212 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:06,240 it is, you know, we don't practice it, number one. 213 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,159 And the second issue is that a lot of us 214 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,480 tend to lose strength, especially in the lower body, and 215 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:21,039 that correlates to, you know, the inability to maintain balance 216 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,639 and such. So it's important to to kind of make 217 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,960 sure that you do get checked for balance, and even 218 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,480 if you don't, I mean, just to practice it. You know, 219 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,639 stand on one leg, just try to balance on one 220 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,960 leg and see if you have a tougher time trying 221 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,360 to balance on your right leg versus your left leg. 222 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:42,000 You be surprised how many people you know are are 223 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,639 good on one side but terrible on the other. And 224 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:48,720 you just need to work on it to make sure 225 00:12:48,759 --> 00:12:51,480 that you know you're kind of balancing out your balance 226 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,039 sort of speak. But the other balance that I was 227 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:00,360 mentioning prior was about balance in the muscular skeletal system them, 228 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,360 because playing golf will actually create imbalances in your body 229 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:10,759 because of the nature of the sport. It's repetitive and 230 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:13,679 it's one sided. So you know, if you're a right 231 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,159 handed golfer, you're swinging a club the same way hundreds 232 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,039 of times during a round of golf, So you're working 233 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:25,559 particular muscles in a certain way and you're neglecting other muscles. 234 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:29,720 So over time, you know, you develop these deficiencies and 235 00:13:29,759 --> 00:13:32,879 then these imbalances in your body from playing in activity 236 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,159 in addition to maybe your lifestyle for instance, like you 237 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,879 know your work habits. You know, if you tend to 238 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,960 sit a lot during the day, you know that does 239 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,679 a job on creating muscle tightness in your body and 240 00:13:47,759 --> 00:13:51,919 muscle weakness. So really what the golf fitness program and 241 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,879 really any good fitness program, I mean, if you went 242 00:13:54,919 --> 00:13:58,519 to a real good fitness facility, the one thing that 243 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 you would want them to do would be to assess you, 244 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,279 to see where your imbalances are, where your deficiencies are, 245 00:14:05,919 --> 00:14:11,440 and to first correct those deficiencies so that you bring 246 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,679 balance back into your system. And we're talking left to right, 247 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:19,159 front to back, up and down in the body. And 248 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,840 when you do like I say, you're allowing the body 249 00:14:21,879 --> 00:14:25,080 to move more efficiently, more effectively, and that's going to 250 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:28,799 help the particular skill that you're participating in. And then 251 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:33,559 once you do that, then you can progress into more 252 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,759 specific sport related strength. And because now you're in balance, 253 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,639 the results that you're going to get will be better 254 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,519 and will be quicker. And it's also the imbalances that 255 00:14:45,559 --> 00:14:49,360 we have that in our systems that lead to all 256 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:52,120 those nagging aches and pains that we develop, I mean 257 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:55,440 the lower back gosh, I mean, you know the prevalence 258 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,799 of low backache in society alone, never mind golf, you know, 259 00:15:00,799 --> 00:15:03,759 which always tends to be number one anyway amongst you know, 260 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:08,759 most golfers, male, female, all levels. It's those imbalances in 261 00:15:08,799 --> 00:15:12,799 the body that lead up to those chronic aches and pains. 262 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,639 And it's not till you really correct those those imbalances, 263 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,639 those mechanisms for injury, that you really correct the problem 264 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:21,279 and fix the ache and the pain. 265 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, well, unfortunately, I know, well, it's time 266 00:15:25,679 --> 00:15:28,360 to bring back Catherine Roberts of yoga for golfers because 267 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,600 I gotta tell you, as I admit that I have 268 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,919 not done a lot of cardiovascular I've done no cardiovascular 269 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,360 this year. I still try to do twenty minutes to 270 00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:43,000 a half hour of yoga every morning, let's call it, 271 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:47,720 four mornings a week and that and I can really 272 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,840 tell what my balance is like there, because you know, 273 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:51,600 I either have to stand on my head or I 274 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:55,320 stand on one foot, and I think that helps me 275 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:56,200 a lot. 276 00:15:56,679 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: Oh, definitely, I would say it probably does a lot. 277 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,080 Yoga's great and unfortunately though a lot of guys don't 278 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,759 take yoga, and they should. I mean, going to any 279 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:10,919 going to any yoga class. I bet you your yoga class, 280 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:12,320 there's probably more women than men. 281 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,679 Speaker 1: There are both. Yeah, we both have men and women. 282 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,480 And I would say, yes, there's more women. But I 283 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:25,840 have found a great. Actually it's I don't even do 284 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,159 a class. I found a great website on my iPad 285 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,799 and videos right there, and it's called Yoga Glow. It 286 00:16:33,879 --> 00:16:36,320 is a monthly fee, but it's so worth it for 287 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,440 me to have that and just not have to leave 288 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,120 the house. And there's this one teacher I think is phenomenal. 289 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,960 So yeah, it's been really easy to make a nice 290 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,720 yoga and there's ten, fifteen, twenty, thirty, forty five, ninety, 291 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:56,519 you know, sixty ninety minute different practices on there, so 292 00:16:56,919 --> 00:17:02,240 it really works for my schedule and I I it's addicting. 293 00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds like a good deal because, like I say, 294 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,440 more people really need to get into programs like yoga 295 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,319 and pilates to work on flexibility, range of motion, and 296 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,799 for golf, I mean that if you're going to work 297 00:17:15,799 --> 00:17:20,000 on anything to improve your game, flexibility and stretching is 298 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:21,400 probably the number. 299 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,319 Speaker 1: One interesting you also mentioned earlier when we were talking 300 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:29,880 about balance and the positions, you talked about the magazines, 301 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:34,759 and there seems to be you know, we all know 302 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:39,000 how many golf magazines there are, and the cover every month, 303 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,599 one way or another says greater distance. In this article, 304 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,559 you're going to get greater distance and learn the new 305 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,880 twisted spine swing things, and I avoid them at all costs. 306 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:58,039 But what is your what's your take on what's going 307 00:17:58,079 --> 00:18:01,240 on in the magazines and what they're promising us and 308 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,240 and how we're going to increase our power by whatever 309 00:18:05,279 --> 00:18:06,000 it is they offer. 310 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:08,079 Speaker 3: I don't know. Well, I mean, you know they're hit. 311 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,160 They're hitting the buttons, that's for sure. 312 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: No, no question about it. They listen. Is their primary 313 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,359 goal to educate or to sell magazine magazine? Right exactly? Well, 314 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,720 I'm sorry to me. It's all about education. If we 315 00:18:20,759 --> 00:18:22,319 can educate, then we're going to win. 316 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And I think the journals and the 317 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:31,160 publications do a great job at offering tips and telling you, 318 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,440 you know that you need to have a big shoulder 319 00:18:33,519 --> 00:18:36,799 turn for power and you need to maintain a good 320 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,119 risk hinge in the downswing to generate more power and 321 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:46,000 that's going to get you more distance. But the the 322 00:18:46,039 --> 00:18:50,200 issue I have with the journals, and hopefully that'll change, 323 00:18:50,279 --> 00:18:55,200 you know, as golf fitness becomes more prominent and more 324 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,039 people are you know, buying into it in the industry, 325 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:01,799 is that they need to tell you how to get 326 00:19:01,839 --> 00:19:06,759 into those positions or what may be your restrictions physical 327 00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:10,920 restrictions for getting into those positions, because you know, for 328 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,680 the average golfer, you know, it picks up a journal 329 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,759 and says, oh, Okay, I just got to make a 330 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:18,599 bigger shoulder turn, and when they go out there try 331 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,920 to do it, they can't because they got physical weaknesses 332 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,880 or tightnesses that just aren't allow allowing them to do that, right, 333 00:19:27,599 --> 00:19:30,480 And it would be great for these journals to follow 334 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:33,480 up with, Okay, you've got to make a big shoulder turn, 335 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:37,920 and here are some possibilities. Here are some scenarios that 336 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:40,359 you may fall into, and you may have a tight 337 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,039 mid back which is restricting your ability to make a 338 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:49,160 good turn. And you know, here are some exercises to 339 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:52,839 help you remedy that situation, you know, kind of get 340 00:19:52,839 --> 00:19:57,240 into some different scenarios and some examples of how to 341 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,720 you know, improve upon those. 342 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: And I think, well, yeah, and the and the photographs 343 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,599 that they're going to show of people doing these big 344 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:09,599 shoulder turns. They're either tour players, or they're golf instructors 345 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,400 or their fitness instructors or their golfers like Michael Hamill, 346 00:20:13,519 --> 00:20:18,079 which is yeah, right, you and Michael is a golf 347 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,319 smarter listener, but he is a workout fanatic and he's 348 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,680 got this amazing body and he does YouTube videos and 349 00:20:24,839 --> 00:20:27,200 you know, and just come on, what about Joe Schmoe. 350 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,640 What about the you know, the weekend golfer who you 351 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,480 know is not is getting older, doesn't have the flexibility. 352 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:38,119 What about pictures of those guys and really showcase to 353 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:40,480 us what can we really do? 354 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:43,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and it's funny you bring that up, 355 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:45,559 because I did write about that in one of my articles. 356 00:20:46,039 --> 00:20:48,680 You know how uh you know, the butch Harmons of 357 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:54,079 the World and the other you know, famous golf pro teachers. 358 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,640 You know, they tell you how to get into these positions, 359 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,160 and yeah, the pictures they have and there are there 360 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:04,200 students and they professional golfers who spend two, three, four 361 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:09,480 hours a day with a personal trainer doing specific exercises 362 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:12,440 so that they can get into these positions and then 363 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,400 going out you know, on the on the golf course 364 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,519 and practicing for three or four five hours. So yeah, yeah, 365 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:21,319 I agree with you. You know, for the average golfer 366 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,559 to try to get into a lot of these positions, 367 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:26,319 you know, it's it's it's a it's a tough it's 368 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:27,240 an uphill battle. 369 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Are they really power positions? They? What are they selling 370 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:41,640 when they say that? I mean obviously what they're pumping, 371 00:21:41,839 --> 00:21:44,759 you know, is you're going to get more distancing. Yeah, 372 00:21:44,839 --> 00:21:49,440 but uh, can they be detrimental these these things they're 373 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,119 trying to show us? 374 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, if for the average golfer, who who? 375 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,480 Because you know, most golfers don't realize that it's their 376 00:21:56,519 --> 00:21:59,599 own bodies that are holding them back from playing better golf. 377 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,359 And so they pick up a magazine and they and 378 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,920 they read about these various positions you need to get into, 379 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,720 and so they go out and try to do this stuff. 380 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:14,640 And because they're not physically prepared well to do that, yeah, 381 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,319 I mean, it can increase the risk of injury. You know, 382 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,039 there's always compensation going on, and that sets you up 383 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:26,519 for injury as opposed to you know, let's just kind 384 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:30,799 of stick to a standard swing and you know, let's 385 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:32,640 take a look at your body to see where the 386 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,119 restrictions are and let's correct those so that you can 387 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:39,599 make you know, make those moves and get into those positions. 388 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: So interesting, and so then what I'm curious when when 389 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,000 it talks about these positions, and we've talked about so often. 390 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,599 You know, you've got to start with PGA position, grip 391 00:22:54,599 --> 00:22:59,960 and alignment, or actually posture, grip and alignment. These positions. 392 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,079 Does it address the fact that, and from what I've seen, 393 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,799 most golfers don't have the correct posture when they're addressing 394 00:23:10,839 --> 00:23:11,160 the ball. 395 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, gosh, I mean, you know, the sea posture, 396 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,240 the kind of the bullying of the back when a 397 00:23:20,279 --> 00:23:23,720 golfer stands over the ball. It used to be a 398 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:30,000 older golfers disease, but nowadays, I tell you, Fred, it's 399 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,079 just unbelievable how many sea postures I'm seeing, even in 400 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,160 the younger golfers. Oh oh, gosha. And the reason is computers. 401 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,799 I mean, the fact that many of us are sitting 402 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:46,079 at our desks, hunched over our computers all day long. 403 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:50,240 The body basically adapts to the position that it's placed 404 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,759 in most of the time. So when you're hunched over 405 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:58,599 a computer, basically your shoulders are around it, right yep, 406 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,359 And so that shortens the muscles in the chest area. 407 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,319 And when you shorten a muscle over time, it basically 408 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,119 tightens and it elongates the muscles in the upper back. 409 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,279 And when you elongate a muscle, you weaken. So what 410 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,319 happens is and you can see this in you know, 411 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,400 when you're in the mall or when you're at the 412 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,599 beach next summer. I mean, look at people's posture, even 413 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,799 the young kids. It's terrible. The amount of rounded shoulders 414 00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:31,640 that are out there are unbelievable. It's like an epidemic. 415 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,880 And so what happens is, you know, you're a golfer, 416 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,279 you're spending eight hours a day hunched over a computer, 417 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,680 and then on the weekends you go out and you 418 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,000 get over the ball and you're taking that rounded shoulder 419 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:51,599 posture out there with you. So right away you're setting 420 00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:54,680 yourself out. You know, uh, coming out of the gate 421 00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:59,039 of not being able to make an efficient swing because 422 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,160 of rounded seat posture will reduce your back swing by 423 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,559 about thirty percent. So you can't make that good shoulder turn. 424 00:25:07,079 --> 00:25:09,440 You can't get the club back far enough to be 425 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,839 able to generate enough clubhead speed to get power and distance, 426 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,240 so you run into issues. I work with a lot 427 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,880 of dentists and almost every single one of them have 428 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:25,599 sea posture because they're hunched over their patients all day, 429 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:29,279 you know, working on their teeth, So you know, stuff 430 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,759 like that. You know, lifestyle that we allude to can 431 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,599 really impact your golf game and a lot of for 432 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,599 a lot of average golfers are just not aware of 433 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:44,799 the fact that their posture is terrible. And it's unless somebody, 434 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,480 you know, says, hey, do you know you're you're really 435 00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:50,880 hunched over that ball and do you know that it's 436 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,960 going to affect your swing? And YadA YadA YadA. I mean, 437 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,640 the only way to really get the club back when 438 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,000 you're in a sea posture is to stand up while 439 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,119 you're swinging the club back. So what's going to happen 440 00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:09,039 is you're going to change your swing plane. That's gonna mess. 441 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,160 Balance can be an issue, So I mean, there's a 442 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,200 whole host of things that can develop from having bad 443 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:16,359 posture over the ball. 444 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: Can you expand on YadA YadA YadA? Please? I've been 445 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,960 waiting for somebody to say YadA YadA YadA for years. 446 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:30,839 It's like, what do you specifically what do you specifically 447 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,000 mean about ya? Sorry for interrupting. What were you about 448 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,240 to say? 449 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: Well, the other thing is, you know, the other pasture 450 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,680 that I'm seeing a lot is the s posture, which 451 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,359 is characterized by an excessive arch in the lower back, 452 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,440 and it's more predominant in women and in younger golfers. 453 00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: Give me a visual, because I'm not as looking from 454 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,079 which direction are we talking about like a curvature of 455 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,839 the spine or are we like, yeah, chest out, butt up? 456 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: What do we hear? It's kind of like your lower 457 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,440 back is arched and your butt is sticking out. Okay, 458 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,480 all right? And like I say, it's more predominant in 459 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:19,319 women and in younger golfers. And the big reason is, 460 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:22,759 again it's due to a deficiency in the body. Women 461 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,400 tend to have tighter hip flexor muscles, which are the 462 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,119 muscles in the front part of the hip. Women are 463 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,599 from Venus, men are from Mars. It's just a phenomena. 464 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,440 Don't know why it happens. It's all the golfers I test. 465 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,720 You know, women tend to be tighter and the hip flexers. 466 00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,079 Men tend to be tighter in the handstrings, which are 467 00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:43,359 in the back of the thigh, and that can lead 468 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,240 up to back issues. But the yes posture, and again, 469 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,680 this seems to be one of the biggest articles that 470 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,839 gets a lot of hits on my website each month, 471 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,240 So there must be a lot of individuals and they're 472 00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:00,400 suffering from back issues and who have s posture, whether 473 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,119 they realize it or not, but the s posture with 474 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,759 that excessive swaying of the back is just going to 475 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,160 kill the back over time. I mean kill the back. 476 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,960 I mean just try standing up and arching your back, 477 00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:16,640 get into your golf stance, arch your back, and then 478 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,680 swing a golf club and you'll know how painful that 479 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,400 can be. So imagine doing that again and again and 480 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,240 again and again and again. A lot of it is 481 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,880 because of the fact that those hip flexers are tight. 482 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:34,720 And going back to sitting, when you sit, you're going 483 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,319 to put those hip flexers in a shortened position. And 484 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,960 again when you shorten them, you tighten them. And so 485 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,799 over time, you know, your lifestyle can impact your golf game. 486 00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:48,839 And I got an article on the website that just 487 00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:53,279 talk specifically about how sitting can wreck havoc on your 488 00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,279 golf swing. I do a workshop I go around the 489 00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,119 area here and do the workshop for a lot of 490 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,240 businesses called the Anatomy of a Sitter, And it was 491 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:05,359 based on you know, what I was seeing in the 492 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,920 sea posture and younger golfers and kind of led me 493 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440 to do some research on this, and there seems to 494 00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:13,720 be more and more coming out now about the negative 495 00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:17,640 consequences health consequences of sitting. It's really interesting. 496 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: Chairs are sheer hell for me. Yeah, chair. I have 497 00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:27,880 switched and purchased so many chairs it's unbelievable. And it's 498 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,039 always I'm a dusk jockey. I you know, I'm at 499 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:35,079 my desk many many hours a day in a row, 500 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:39,519 and I just have a lot of trouble with my 501 00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:43,400 lower back and it's been It wasn't until first I 502 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,319 started sitting on one of those exercise balls for many years. 503 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,119 But then I found a chair that mimics one of 504 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,160 those balls and it forces me to sit up straight 505 00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,359 and it's been hugely beneficial for me. 506 00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, we talked about the hamstrings. 507 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,440 I mean the tightness the hamstrings, which is the muscles 508 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,920 in the back of the thigh or one of the 509 00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:08,240 major risks for low back discomfort because of the relationship 510 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,319 the ham strings have on the hip bone and because 511 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,759 what they do to the hip bone, they basically it 512 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:17,279 usually takes about the third decade for people to start 513 00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:22,440 experiencing back issues from muscle deficiency, and so those tight 514 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,680 hamstrings are going to pull that hip bone down kind 515 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,920 of towards the back. It's going to rotate the hip 516 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,240 towards the back. And so what that does is because 517 00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:36,960 the lower back muscles are attached to the top half 518 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:40,359 of that hip bone, as it rotates down, it stretches 519 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,880 out the low back muscles and at least them in 520 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,839 a taunt position. So early signs and symptoms are you 521 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160 sit for a long periods of time, you get up, 522 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,799 your back's a low tight. You play around the golf 523 00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:54,039 your next day or two, your back's a little tight. 524 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,200 The more serious consequence is as that hip bone rotates, 525 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,920 it also will take that normal curve in your lower 526 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:06,079 spine and the lumbar spine. It'll straighten it out. Now, 527 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,079 you don't want to deviate from that normal curve. It's 528 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,799 there for a reason. If you straighten it out, or 529 00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:16,599 if you increase the curve, you start putting more pressure 530 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,599 on the disks in between the bones and your spine, 531 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,880 and you start to wear out those disks faster. And 532 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,519 that's when you start putting pressure on the nerve roots, 533 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:30,119 you know, and getting into the sciatica, you just get 534 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,200 back pain and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and 535 00:31:34,359 --> 00:31:40,839 so sitting will also shorten hamstrings as it does hip flexers. Now, 536 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,240 the tight hip flexers pull the hip bone in the 537 00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:47,359 opposite direction. It kind of rotates it down forward, and 538 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:50,799 that increases that curve in the lower back and creates 539 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,880 that sway back. And that's why a lot of women 540 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,400 tend to have those tight hip flexers, and they tend 541 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,160 to have that s posture, and you know their backs 542 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,240 are killing them. So either way, you know, tightness and 543 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,440 the inflixors, tightness and hamstrings, and you're gonna have issues. 544 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,720 I can't tell you how many times you know. And 545 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:14,039 I work a lot with low back people who have 546 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,599 even gone through surgeries and have the ruptured discs. The 547 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,400 problem is in many cases is they don't look for 548 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:23,000 the mechanism of injury. They treat the pain, but they 549 00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:25,720 don't treat the reason, you know, the cause of how 550 00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,599 you got to the pain. And in many cases it's 551 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,559 that the imbalances in the muscle that create the misalignment. 552 00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:36,599 I can't tell you how many people that you know, 553 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,279 I've worked with that you identify the deficiency and then 554 00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:43,400 you give them some stretches to do, and it's amazing 555 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,839 how much better they feel. 556 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all. Yeah, I'm not surprised at all. 557 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,680 I have so many more questions for you. I really 558 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:59,720 like to talk about golf injuries and where they come 559 00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:03,759 from and what we can do about them, and various 560 00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:07,960 things about how the swing can screw up your spine 561 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,799 and things like that. I really have a lot more questions. 562 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Could you stick around and we will record part two 563 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:15,839 of this conversation? 564 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: Sure? 565 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: Awesome? All right, Well that will be next episode and 566 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,039 it will be a Golf Smarter for members only. So 567 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,519 if you have had any aha moments in the past 568 00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:29,400 thirty minutes, because I've had four, then I encourage you 569 00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,799 please to join golf Smarter for members only at golfsmarter 570 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,680 dot com and take advantage of the fact that you 571 00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:39,559 will have a new episode of Golf Smarter every single week. 572 00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:42,240 You'll get to hear part two of this conversation and 573 00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,440 part two of all those conversations that you've missed, and 574 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,240 have complete access to our archives of seven years of 575 00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:52,519 Golf Smarter podcasts that all have content that you will have. 576 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,720 You could potentially have an aha moment. So before we leave, 577 00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:01,279 for those who are not Golf Smarter members, Bob, tell 578 00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:02,480 them how to get in touch with you on what 579 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:03,160 your website is. 580 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,799 Speaker 3: Please, my website is www. 581 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: We did this before. You don't need the www, Bob. 582 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,840 Come on, Bob, you don't need take two. 583 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: Come on golf the golf website. Golf fitness website is 584 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,880 golf fit Carolina dot com. It's g O L F 585 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,960 I T. Carolina dot com. 586 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,679 Speaker 1: Excellent and you have articles on there as well, correct. 587 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,119 Speaker 3: Articles, yep, videos. I post stuff, new stuff every month. 588 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,440 I post a new exercise of the month usually the 589 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,320 middle of the month, and a lot of good information 590 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:42,760 on there. 591 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: Awesome, All right, stick around Part two coming up. Thanks 592 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,000 so much for joining us. 593 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: Bob, No problem, my pleasure. 594 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: Well, I am so happy to welcome terror Kayler back, 595 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,559 Terry the wedge guy Kaylor And this is our score 596 00:35:04,679 --> 00:35:06,239 Zone Short Game Academy. 597 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,159 Speaker 3: Hey, Terry, how you doing I'm break fret How are you? 598 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing very well? 599 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: Thank you. 600 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: In a brief overview if you're new to our score 601 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:19,800 Zone Short Game Academy. Terry is the CEO of score Golf, 602 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,519 where they make incredible scoring clubs You probably referred to 603 00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:26,599 him as Wedges in the past, but you will learn 604 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,679 quickly from these that that is not the case. Those 605 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,599 are your scoring clubs, and he's got a whole different 606 00:35:32,679 --> 00:35:35,880 way of approaching it. Check back to our our most 607 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,119 recent members only episode. He'll give you a full explanation 608 00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,079 and we answer a bunch of questions if you missed it. 609 00:35:41,679 --> 00:35:44,639 But we're going to tackle one question today, and the 610 00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:48,880 question from Derek Zascow means that Derek is going to 611 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,760 be eligible to receive a customized score forty one sixty 612 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,119 one wedge and you can too. All you have to 613 00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,760 do is click on the short Game Academy button at 614 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,840 golfsmarter dot com. It says score Zone, Show Game Academy, 615 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,719 submit your question, and if we use it on the show, 616 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:09,239 you get to your own customized score forty one sixty 617 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,079 one scoring club and you'll also receive a golf Smarter 618 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:16,519 Switchblade divid tool, the greatest divid repaired tool in the universe. 619 00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:18,639 I just know this for a fact because I do 620 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,840 all this research and I'm making this up. So Terry, 621 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,000 let's get to the Let's get to the question, and 622 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,440 Derek is probably on the same question for a lot 623 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,320 of people. Derek from Santa Fe, New Mexico, all conditions 624 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,159 being equal, what do you think has more control for 625 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,679 in between distance shots stepping on a gap wedge or 626 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,440 easing up on the pitching wedge. 627 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 5: Well, my answer is neither one, and let me explain that, 628 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,400 thank you. When we have a short club in our hand, 629 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,960 a wedge or a short term, we're looking for pinpoint 630 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,840 distance control. Da've Pelts has done a lot of research 631 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000 on this and shown that inside nine iron range people 632 00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:01,360 tend to not miss left and right as badly as 633 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,320 they miss long and short. And there are two parts 634 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,239 of missing long and short. One is just simply missiting 635 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,239 the shot, catching it thin or catching it heavy, laying 636 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,559 the sod over on it as it were. One of 637 00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,719 the other problems is that we're trying to step up 638 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,239 or ease up on these different shots to hit our 639 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,199 end between yardages. I think there's two solutions to this. 640 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,960 Two parts of the solution Derek. Here. One is to 641 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,880 go out with your laser rangefinder or even step it 642 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,639 off if you need to, and find out what is 643 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,800 your comfortable full swing distance with each of your scoring 644 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,800 clubs nine, your pitch, your gap your sand, your lob, 645 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,440 whatever you carry there and monitor these gaps. Measure them 646 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,039 out and find out, well, I think a gap which 647 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,800 is one hundred and five, but is it really Go 648 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,920 out and hit five or six balls of your gap. 649 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 3: Wey, it's. 650 00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:59,599 Speaker 5: Leave your bag there, take your laser rangefinder, walk down, 651 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,840 find the center of that pattern, and shoot back to 652 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,280 your bag and say, okay, I thought it was one 653 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,280 hundred and five, but the center of this pattern is 654 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,119 really ninety eight. And do that for each of your 655 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:13,800 scoring clubs. Because there is a hard math built into 656 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,800 your set. You may find that you have fourteen yards 657 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,199 between your pitch and your gap, but twelve or sixteen 658 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,239 yards between your gap and your sand. What you're shooting 659 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,360 for is consistent gapping. But to know these yardages, I 660 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,679 wrote a book called the score Method that's available on 661 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,400 our website if you hunt around for it. That is 662 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,800 about then dissecting those gap. It's not by stepping on 663 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,119 it or easing up, but by changing your hand position 664 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,400 gripping down on the club, I can take off about 665 00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:47,639 a third to a half of the distance gap. Gripping 666 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,920 down another half inch, which will take off a little more. 667 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,760 You can build a measure of precision without thinking about 668 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,000 swinging harder or swinging easier, just by changing the link 669 00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:59,360 of the golf club, which produces a little less yards 670 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,679 than that club did it at full swing full length. 671 00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:09,199 You can then dissect that with a very slightly open 672 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,599 club face. Again. This book called score Method dives into that. 673 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,239 But I want to go into the other side of 674 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,079 this question. And you're talking about stepping up on a 675 00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:22,639 gap wedge, a full swing with a with a high 676 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,159 loft golf club, what we call a full sandwich or 677 00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:27,320 a full pitching wedger. A full nine iron is not 678 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,320 anywhere near as heart of a golf swing as a 679 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,519 full five iron or a full free wood. These are 680 00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,039 precision golf clubs. And when you back off on them 681 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:39,039 a little bit and throttle down this little bit and 682 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,119 need to find you can considerate que full swing, you'll 683 00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:48,360 find that your projector comes down, your consistency of impact 684 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,000 will improve dramatically, and your distance control will therefore get 685 00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:55,000 more consistent. It really doesn't matter whether you hit a 686 00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:57,599 pitching wedge one ten or one twenty or one forty. 687 00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,599 The key is can you do that consistently? Can you 688 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,480 stand there at one forty going I know this is 689 00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:04,119 a full swing pitching wedge and hit it. Or can 690 00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:05,920 you stand there at one oh five and say, I 691 00:40:06,039 --> 00:40:08,159 know this is a full swing pitching wedge and then 692 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,440 hit it one oh five? So control your gaps. You'll 693 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,119 measure your gaps like going out on the range, and 694 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,960 then dissect your gaps not by stepping on it, not 695 00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,960 by easing up, but by changing your hand position on 696 00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:25,559 the grip to shorten the club. I have a three 697 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,880 quarter in and watch what happens. Am wonderful exercise to 698 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,840 go through to learn about your golf clubs. 699 00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,599 Speaker 1: Well, I want to, uh, I hope everyone got that. 700 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,360 You know, we had a little bit of a problem 701 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,639 with the Skype signal, but it seemed like we I go. 702 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,320 I was able to follow along even though it's kind 703 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,599 of choppy. I still got the crux of absolutely everything 704 00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:49,440 you said. So I want to, you know, make sure 705 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,360 and if and if anyone's been having trouble with that, 706 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,280 please let me know and and get back to me. 707 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,119 Just email me and we'll we'll work on that and 708 00:40:57,199 --> 00:40:58,880 we can even redo the question if you want. But 709 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,760 I'm pretty sure you got everything. I sure didn't. I 710 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,519 thought it was great advice Terry, thanks so much for 711 00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:09,679 another Square Zone Short game Academy and two more episodes, 712 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,679 and we'll see you then. 713 00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 5: That would be great bread and look forward to it.