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let me start with a story that appeared the other

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day at WSOCTV.

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Speaker 1: Joe Bruno, the reporter.

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Speaker 2: That US Immigration and Customs Enforcement And by the way,

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this story may sound a little familiar in that I

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covered a little bit of it. I guess it was

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last week. I want to say maybe it was Friday.

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I forget because our bold and fearless and sometimes flustrated

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Sheriff Gary not my fault. McFadden in the news again

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regarding this story. But here's how it started. US Immigration

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and Customs Enforcement agents are ramping up arrests. ICE is

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now making daily arrests in Charlotte and in the surrounding area.

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Channel nine government reporter Joe Bruno embedded with ICE which

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sounds uncomfortable just because it's Chile.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: He embedded with ICE in Charlotte last week to learn

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more about their operations in the area, and on Thursday,

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Channel nine was there when ICE arrested Jose Napoleon Serrano

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and here's that report.

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Speaker 4: Every day in Charlotte, about three and a half weeks ago,

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ICE agents are hearing up and getting their assignment.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, guys, this morning we're gonna be going after

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Jose Napoleon Serrano, Honda and mailed Hondora citizen.

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Speaker 4: Jose Napoleon Serrana has already been deported twice. In twenty twenty,

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he was removed from the United States after being arrested

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in Operation Noble Guardian. That's when investigators arrested people who

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crossed the border with a kid in order to be

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deemed a family unit so they can avoid detention, only

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to then ship the kid back after gaining entry into

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the US.

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Speaker 5: They felt that they would be safe if they brought

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a child in, and so he was one of those

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people that were targeted for that reason.

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Speaker 4: The child's essentially a prop absolutely. That's Maria Summers. She's

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the head of enforcement and removal operations in Charlotte for

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about an hour and a half. We parked inside Napoleon

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Serrano's neighborhood waiting for him to come out. A stakeout,

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she says, could have been avoided.

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Speaker 5: We're putting our lives in danger, obviously, the alien's life

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and the people in the community.

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Speaker 4: Last month, Sempity arrested Napoleon Serrano on charges of assault

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with a deadly weapon, assault on a female, and domestic

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viole es. Ice issued this detainer, requesting him to be

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held for forty eight hours and for the Mecklenburg County

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Sheriff's office to let them know before he is released.

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Record show he was held for forty eight hours, but

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Ice says mcso never made that phone call. As I've

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been reporting. Sheriff Gary mcfatten thinks the law doesn't require

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him to do so.

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Speaker 5: It's frustrating because this could be a very easy transaction

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at the jail if they were honoring our detainers.

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Speaker 4: So that's how Ice ended up here in North Charlotte.

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They spent about a week getting to know Napoleon Serrano's habits.

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Speaker 1: We don't have movement right now.

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Speaker 4: They are all scattered throughout the neighborhood waiting for him

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to leave his home.

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Speaker 5: We're keeping with the president's policy and is the worst First.

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Speaker 4: This is targeted enforcement, not a raid, and Summer says,

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despite what has been said, her agents aren't going into churches,

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schools for other sensitive areas. She says, the focus is

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on people who have committed violent.

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Speaker 5: Our goal is to remove them and hopefully, you know,

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get rid of one list threat, you know, and one

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more one lest victim out there that gets to sleep

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at night and feel safe.

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Speaker 4: When Napoleon Serrano left his house, agents and unmarked cars followed,

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and he instantly knew why. He pulled into a park

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and ditched his car. He's up in here in the

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power life. And after a short run through the woods,

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Ice made the arrest. Anything you want to say, okay,

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it's katus here. Napoleon Serrano didn't comment on his arrest.

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He asked Ice if someone would be able to pick

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up his car, and he confirmed all of his kids

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are being supervised summer sets, just like they were watching him.

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He was having people watched that they're doing.

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Speaker 3: They know our cars. They kind of also know somewhat

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the way we off.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 3: So when he saw something was you know, not normal.

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He came, he parked his car and took off.

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Speaker 4: After being escorted out the woods, Napoleon Serrana was cuffed.

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ICE let him leave his keys, and he was allowed

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to call his wife to let her know he was

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arrested and that she would need to pick up the car.

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Now that the suspect has been arrested, he's going to

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be taken back to the ICE office in Charlotte for processing.

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He will then be sent to Almance County, where he's

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expected to remain in the detention center for one or

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two days before he can get a hearing before judge.

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At the ICE field office, he was escorted through the

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back and into an elevator. Once inside, officers collected the

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rest of his belongings, including more than two thousand dollars

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in cash. He was then placed into a cell. Summers

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says she has met with state lawmakers asking them to

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make it clear sheriffs have to call ICE before a

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suspect like Napoleon Serrano is released. But she is reiterating

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the focus right now is on peakull accused of serious crimes.

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Speaker 5: We are going after criminals, So I would say don't

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commit additional crimes, right, and most likely that's not who

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we're going to prioritize.

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Speaker 7: I talked to Sheriff Gary mcfatten's office again after the arrest,

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and they reiterated their belief that they are following this

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law as written.

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Speaker 2: And to hear the part about kids being used as

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props and then sent back, that's just so sad, unbelievable

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to hear.

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Speaker 3: And Joe, you also talked to the agents about how

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their directives have changed from the Biden administration to now

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the Trump administration.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, specifically for the ICE Charlotte office, really the focus

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was on processing the large number of people who cross

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the border and then resided here in Charlotte. Now the

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focus is on removal and different agencies are able to

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help ICE with those arrests, like.

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Speaker 4: The FBI and the DEA. And so that is what

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is happening now.

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Speaker 8: A great look inside Joy, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe. All right, So that's the initial report

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that was filed by Joe Bruno over WSOCT and that

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prompted then the response from the Sheriff's office, and in

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the online version of the story, a spokesperson for Sheriff

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McFadden reiterated the sheriff's belief that a notification prior to

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release is not required. Is not required. I don't have

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to call, That's what he said. Mecklenberg County Sheriff's office.

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According to the spokesperson Sarah mess Story, the Sheriff's office

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is doing much of the legwork for Ice while complying. Okay,

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were you guys on the stakeout? Did you have to

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sit in the car and follow him around the neighborhood

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for a week? A week while complying with an unfunded

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state man date for what is ultimately a federal matter?

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She said, yes, so is bank robbery too. Do you

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guys help it all with those? She says, should Sheriff

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McFadden now provide Ice with a two man warning as well?

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I don't even know what that means. The form is

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very clear, the fact remains, she says. Sheriff's office is

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following the law both one sixty two, DOT sixty two

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and now house built ten somers with. Ice said she

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has met with state lawmakers to ask them to make

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it clear sheriffs have to call Ice before a suspect

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like Napoleon Serrano is released. All right, if you're listening

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Speaker 1: What's going on? AP? How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Pete?

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: So.

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Speaker 2: I was reading your piece the other day or sorry

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about I was reading your piece about the immigration stuff,

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and then I saw the connection to the the WSOC

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TV story with the undercover embedded raid and all of

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the stuff that that kicked up. So let me first

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start though with closer to where you are up in Raleigh,

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because I just played the WSOC report on the Charlotte incident.

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So what did you guys see up in Raleigh with

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these targeted enforcement actions in Wake County?

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Speaker 6: Well, earlier in February, ICE was on the ground here

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in Raleigh and they captured a twenty four year old

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suspected member of Trendre Aragua, the Venezuelan game that's been

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taking over cities across the nation. Law enforcement here was involved,

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as well as Border patrol, ICE, marine operations, US marshalls.

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A whole bunch of folks were involved in that one,

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and it happened at a residence in Raleigh. Officers when

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they took him into custody. The guy's name was Ricardo

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Padilla Grenadillo. They took him into custody and they found

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a handgun, ammunition and ten other Venezuelan aliens were in

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the house were also arrested during the operation.

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Speaker 2: Now we don't and we don't know like who those

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other people are at this.

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Speaker 6: Time, No, we don't. We're assuming that they were possibly

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additional suspected gang members, but we're not sure. It could

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just be relatives or friends or somebody like that. The

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ICE press release said that he was wanted in connection

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with a shooting, a mass shooting in Chicago that had

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left like two or three people dead and several wounded.

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They didn't link to that story, but I managed to

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track it down. It was something that happened on December

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seconds in the South side of Chicago where eight people

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were involved in a shooting and yeah, three were killed

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and all of those were identified by Chicago's police chief

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as being Hispanic in thescent that were the victims. So

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in Chicago's got a real big problem with Trinday Aragua

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in its in its apartment complexes, just like we saw

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in Aurora, Colorado. So ICE has been conducting raids there

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as well. They missed him there. And I mean this

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kind of follows multiple Trenday Aragua west here in North Carolina.

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I mean this is like the second or the third one.

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I think last fall there was a guy named Mujika

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Muhika Rojas, also known as La Pressa. He was arrested

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in Charlotte in September one of twenty twenty four. He

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was an alleged lieutenant of Trenday Aragua and was wanted

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for illegally entering the United States in twenty twenty two,

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but also for a number of charges like illegal and

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gun ammunition trafficking, extortion, money laundering, that sort of thing.

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So he was also wanted apparently in relation to the

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gang's involvement and activity in various cities including murder, kidnapping,

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human trafficking, drug, drug traffic, and terrorism.

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Speaker 2: Well, he sounds like somebody, yeah, he he sounds like

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somebody that our sheriff would have a very little problem

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releasing back out onto the streets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So let me let me go over some of the numbers,

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and you report on these numbers in your piece, per

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a November twenty twenty three report by c WB Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Do you what is c WB Chicago?

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Speaker 6: Do you know it's a news outlet?

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Speaker 1: Okay, local station, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: So they've been reporting the arrests of Venezuelan nationals has surged,

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and I had to, like, I had to double check

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this number. Eleven thousand, three hundred and thirty three percent

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eleven three yep, it's crazy. So the arrests of these

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Venezuelan nationals in Chicago, so it seems obvious that they're

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trying to put down roots and gain a foothold for

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an operation, if they haven't already done so in Cargo.

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And so now you've got a couple of these, uh

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these links to Trend de Ragua in UH in North

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Carolina one and Charlotte one up in Raleigh. And just

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to go back to that, the piece about the people

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that were also arrested, you said, we don't know if

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they're family members or relatives or friends or something. But

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this is one of the I think the DHS Tom

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Holman UH has called them collateral arrests basically, which is,

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we're going in to find this criminal and if we

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find other people there then and you're here illegally.

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Speaker 1: Also you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Get picked up too, and and and somehow this is

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supposed to be, uh, you know, a bad thing. But

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like I don't know, maybe don't harbor criminal gangs, you know,

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like that might be a good way to start or

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to avoid this kind of, uh, this kind of interaction.

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So then that takes us to Gary not my fault, McFadden.

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That's what I call him our sheriff here, because nothing

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is ever his fault. He's always blaming other people because

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he's a narcissistics sociopath. But anyway, so he's he says

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that he doesn't have to call ICE to let them

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know that he's getting ready to or they're getting ready

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to release one of these offenders back out into the public.

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And he cites House Built ten that was recently adopted

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by the General Assembly to try to force these sheriffs

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like McFadden to comply with ICE, to cooperate with ICE.

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And so do you think that he has found yet

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another loophole that he can wiggle through?

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Speaker 6: Well, hospital, and does this specifically say to call them

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before and after? It just says that they're supposed to

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communicate with ICE about detainees. One would think that that

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would also include, you know, if you're about to release

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this guy, that maybe they ought to know. Yeah, so

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that's sort of where I think the WSOC reporter Joe

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Bruno over there, I think was doing that story. I

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think that was the bone of contention between the two

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of them, where he issued this massive statement and Brunell

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put it up on X about the sheriff not believing

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that the phone call is required, but I says it is.

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You know, the ICE fact sheet basically says that a

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detainer serves quote, both a request for advanced notification of

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release and a request to hold the subject for a

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short period of time, enabling ICE to take custody. But

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it's it also kind of talks about how they expect

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to be you know, communicated with if that person is

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going to be released. Now, you know, given this guy,

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you know, has some serious had some serious charges against him,

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wouldn't you want to contact ICE to make sure that

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this guy wasn't going back out on the streets. That

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just seems like common sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one would think, Yeah, one would.

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Speaker 6: I've talked to several sources in the General Assembly and

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they all told me that they're going to refine this

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down so that there isn't any wiggle room. So I

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have a feeling that we'll see that taken up at

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some point. It's not in any of the bills currently,

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but I can't imagine that the House Speaker, Dustin Hall

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would let that go considering hospital ten with his baby. Yeah,

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oh yeah, we'll see some movement on that.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a great point. We appreciate the time. AP Dylan.

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Speaker 2: You could read her work at AP Dylan dot substack

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dot com. The headline on this piece is called ice

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: She writes for the North State Journal NSJ online dot

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com as well.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, AP. We'll talk to you soon. Great,

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Thanks Pete, all right, thanks, all right.

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Speaker 2: I hope you had a happy holiday season. But tell

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Speaker 1: So, Sheriff Gary not my fault.

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Speaker 2: McFadden, through his spokesperson sarahs Story, who really I think,

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does capture just the arrogance and condescension of the man

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when she says should Sheriff McFadden now provide ice with

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a two minute warning as well, when you're releasing a

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violent offender back out into the community. Maybe maybe all right,

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I'll just say yes, how about that? Yes, you should

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do that? About how about that? You should do that.

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You should give a two minute warning or at least

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any warning. How about that? Because that's what ICE is

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requesting of you. Gary McFadden has made it very clear

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from his first run for office almost eight years ago

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now right because he's he was reelected again, he has

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made it very clear in his words and his actions

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that he does not want to deport anyone. In fact,

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that's what the statement says. I read part of this

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statement last week. I guess it was Friday, because I

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got this press release from the Sheriff's office, and it

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says right here, simply deporting individuals is not an effective

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solution and does not make our community safer. And that

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is absolute horse crap. Okay, it absolutely does make the

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community safer because now you don't have a violent criminal

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in the community. Why do I have to explain this

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to a career law enforcement officer? Simply deporting individuals is

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not an effective solution? Well then why arrest anybody? Why

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arrest people? Why put them in jail?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: Why remove violent offenders from our society at all? No

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point If that's not gonna if that's not a solution,

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if that doesn't make the community safer, then why do

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you do it at all? Why do you even operate

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a jail? Why not just let everybody out immediately. Well

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he guess he's.

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Speaker 1: Kind of doing that already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so all right, I here is the here's

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the actual detainer. I went and pulled it from the

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ICE website, updated on February fourth. Maintain custody, it says,

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it is requested that you, and then it has a

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whole checklist, maintain custody of the subject for a period

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not to exceed forty eight hours excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays,

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beyond the time when the subject would have otherwise been

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released from your custody, to allow DHS to take custody

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of the subject. That's kind of important just to this story,

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because in their little chronology, the breakdown of the events

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in the press release from the Sheriff's office, it says

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January twelfth, which was a Saturday, at five thirty five am,

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this guy Serrano was arrested by CMPD. And remember this

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guy was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon, assault

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on a female and domestic violence. That's what he was

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arrested for. And then they say pat thirty five minutes later,

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Sheriff's office notified ICE with no response the entire day.

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They don't have to respond to you. Why are you

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putting that in the press release, like, oh, they didn't

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if you told call us back. They said, excluding Saturdays,

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Sundays and holidays. In the form itself in the ICE

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detainer request, it says, if you cannot reach a DHS

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official at these numbers, because they have lines there for

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the numbers, please contact the ICE Law Enforcement Support Center

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in Burlington, Vermont, Okay. So they have an after hour's

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number for you to call too. But that part of

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their request says, as early as possible, prior to the

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time you otherwise would release the subject, please notify DHS

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by calling. And then there's a phone number during business

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hours or another phone number after hours or in enemy emergency.

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And then they give the Burlington, Vermont number. So they

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gave him three numbers, and they're asking as early as possible,

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prior to the time you otherwise would release the subject,

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please notify us by calling, and McFadden says, I don't

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have to, and so he's not going to He has

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made this very clear. And all of these excuses that

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he keeps putting out there, it's all just part of

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the same pattern of it's not my fault, now my fault.

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It's just a request, not my fault. It doesn't it

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doesn't mandate me to call you. Oh am, I just

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supposed to give you two minute warning now too. Yes,

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you should give a warning that a violent offender is

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones. Here is David. Welcome to

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the program.

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Speaker 8: David, Hey, thanks for taking my Paul. Yes, sir, this

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is outrageous. I mean, first of all, they should arrest

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him for obstruction of justice just for the point, and

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that the voters in Charlotte need to start voting on

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merit and qualifications rather than color of skin and labeled

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by the political party. And finally, why wasn't his car

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taken to fund the program? And the lady that was

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harboring a fugitive. Why wasn't she arrested? What lady his

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wife that was going to pick his car up? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and where are the adults?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Now I assume that the charges that he had on

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him were probably related to her, right, it was a

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domestic violence charge.

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Speaker 8: So she's still harboring a criminal.

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Speaker 2: No, I well, she's not harboring a criminal because at

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that point he had been arrested, charged, and then bonded out,

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and she very well could have been the person that

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bonded him out.

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Speaker 8: He's in the country illegally. He's a quint In criminal.

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Speaker 2: So right, So if that's what you're talking about, then

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the harboring of an illegal alien, then yeah, I mean,

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but they're not going after those people right now.

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Speaker 1: Now, maybe they will.

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Speaker 8: Well collect them accidentally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what they are doing that And unless

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she is a legal resident, she may be here legally,

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or she may be a citizen.

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Speaker 1: Hey, she may be a citizen. That's why she didn't

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get picked up.

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Speaker 8: If she's here legally, take her in and charge her

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with harboring a criminal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't make it so.

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Speaker 8: Difficult for these people to harbor criminals that they stop

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doing it because there's no mentality right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not for her, Yeah, And I don't know if

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there's an appetite for that at this point. Right now,

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they're doing what is a more politically palatable operation of

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targeting the worst first, you know, that's what they've.

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Speaker 8: Said, Well, collect anybody that's in the flower garden with them,

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Well they will.

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Speaker 2: I mean they have picked up other people, they call

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them collaterals, right, so they have done that. But I

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just I don't know what the metric is that they're using,

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you know, to make that determination.

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Speaker 1: Dave, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 2: It is outrageous, and I would point out the Democrats

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had a choice. Democrat voters in the primary had a

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choice of somebody other than Gary McFadden, and both of them,

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both of those other alternative candidates were African Americans too.

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Gina Hicks ran against him, and she got more votes

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than the third place guy, who I'm not even sure

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what he was doing in the race, probably except the

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siphon votes away from her, I don't know, but she's

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you know, black females.

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Speaker 1: She ran the jail and McFadden.

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Speaker 2: Hired her, and then of course we saw the jail

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deaths go up, and Gaston County went and hired her

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up like almost immediately. So Democrat voters in Mecklinberg County

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had a choice and they chose Gary McFadden. And because

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of the demographics of Mecklinberg County with more Democrat voters,

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they picked Gary McFadden yet again over any Republican. And

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by the way, there's a very strong strain in the

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Democrat party that agrees with McFadden. They don't want to

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deport anybody, even the criminals. So yeah, I don't know

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any other way around it except to force them to

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do it, and to cut any loophole that he is

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relying on and has been relying on in order to

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play a little clever by half with the state legislature

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and the federal government on this stuff. That's the only

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way close every single loophole and drag his ass kicking

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and scre you know, to law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening.

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