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<v Speaker 1>Rick Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Molly, how's your day?

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, another day. So here's my question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>We are in the middle of the Natalie Harp gop

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<v Speaker 1>meltdown Donald.

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<v Speaker 2>The never ending Harpathon. Harp.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump has a personal aid. She is, She's a

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<v Speaker 1>she's a presidential aid, right, what I mean what? And

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<v Speaker 1>she writes his tweets. And she also declined to get

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<v Speaker 1>a security clearance.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and and she she rides in the back of

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<v Speaker 3>the Motorcato.

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<v Speaker 2>By the back of the motorcato Trump, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this weekend we saw lots of photos of

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<v Speaker 1>her running after golf cards. Somebody is doing the Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>from the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm going to make and make the call

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Molly and I've talked about this a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>If you know Susie Wiles, which she does not like

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<v Speaker 3>wild cards.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't like cuckoos. She likes professionals.

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<v Speaker 3>She likes people who can be relied upon to take

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<v Speaker 3>care of the mission and the job. Natalie Harp is

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of wild card that sends a Susie Wiles

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<v Speaker 3>into an apoplectic fit. And so my guess here is

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<v Speaker 3>that a lot of it. Yes, I think some of

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<v Speaker 3>it is coming from Carolyn.

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<v Speaker 4>Levitt, who who is not happy being left behind on

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<v Speaker 4>the death plane. But some of it is has definitely

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<v Speaker 4>got the smell of a sort of Susie Wiles Purge,

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<v Speaker 4>the crazy operation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I want to I want to do another

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<v Speaker 1>minute on that. The decoy plane. So earlier in the

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<v Speaker 1>last two week news cycle we learned about this decoy plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump's hidden in a catering truck he takes with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Natalie Harp on the decoy plane are basically everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>except for Pete Heggsa's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, Natalie is now entering into a space in our politics, Molly,

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<v Speaker 3>that is not a space you want to be in

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<v Speaker 3>as a presidential aid.

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<v Speaker 2>The presidential aid job is to never be the story,

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<v Speaker 2>to never ever be the story. And right now she

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<v Speaker 2>is the story.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's weird because last weekend this was

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<v Speaker 3>a big story and I would have thought, Okay, it'll

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<v Speaker 3>fall apart in a few days, It'll it'll get boring,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever the mystery is. The mystery is maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Milania is gonna leak a little bit about.

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<v Speaker 2>It, who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>But but the story hasn't gone away, It hasn't gotten

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<v Speaker 3>better because the White House has screwed this up so badly.

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<v Speaker 3>They have messed us up in every possible dimension. And

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<v Speaker 3>not only the press can't look away from it, but

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<v Speaker 3>now everybody else in the White House can't look away

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<v Speaker 3>from it because the power that Harp has inside the

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<v Speaker 3>White House is to be the last person in the

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<v Speaker 3>room with Donald Trump at all times, which would Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump she listens to the last person in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they also I also think that they really

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<v Speaker 1>did streisan this thing right like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know you're a one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Right like this week, and this week we had Malania

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<v Speaker 1>come out and say, I hear you missed me right?

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<v Speaker 2>Why you missing me so much?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? So she comes back, which then again is more

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<v Speaker 1>kerosene on the fire. At every point there was an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to just like let this thing die.

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<v Speaker 3>And hold it off, to let it die, to stop

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<v Speaker 3>talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet they won't stop talking about it, and I listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of that is that it's being driven by what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm what I'm gonna what I'm gonna call by my

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<v Speaker 3>theoretical knowledge, no internal knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>The Wiles Leavitt faction. Let's just call that for the moment, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But they've also driven it because all of the MAGA

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<v Speaker 3>influencers who have been marching to the orders, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and those guys normally take their their their marching orders

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<v Speaker 3>from Scavino, right, and from Stephen Chung. They're all out

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<v Speaker 3>there just tearing there. How dare you not only harm

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<v Speaker 3>is the finest of Americans, He'll tell you, sir, and

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is making them look crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It is making it sound like somebody's sent orders down,

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<v Speaker 3>like defend the president's girlfriend rather than let's put this

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<v Speaker 3>crisis behind us.

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<v Speaker 1>And also Scaveno, not Scavino. Stephen Chung had this first

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<v Speaker 1>tweet that was the one that actually drew all the

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<v Speaker 1>attention to it to begin with, which was a tax.

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<v Speaker 3>John oss Off and like calling John oss Off a cuck. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>if there's a cuck in the room, it's it's Stephen

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<v Speaker 3>Chung sitting on the extra strength cup chair. Well, but

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<v Speaker 3>they caused this problem for themselves money, They bought this

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<v Speaker 3>entire problem by being idiots.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you know what's funny about this story is

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<v Speaker 1>like they're doing, they're trying to distract from they would

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<v Speaker 1>like to distract from this, but what they're doing this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the real story if you wanted to, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how, there's always sort of a real story in

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<v Speaker 1>a fakes The real story is the absolute disastrous trade

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<v Speaker 1>war with cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is milly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, first off, somebody betweeted about this yesterday thread

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<v Speaker 3>it I guess, and it was like master of the

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<v Speaker 3>Art of the deal blows deal with friendliest nation on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Canada was ready to put this behind us

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<v Speaker 3>and to cool it off, and yet Trump had to

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<v Speaker 3>go in and be an asshole. And he went into

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<v Speaker 3>be an asshole because of two big things. One Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>for its own needs, has to keep some of it

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<v Speaker 3>some of its own petroleum production. They do need gas

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<v Speaker 3>still and diesel, and he wanted more because he's burned

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<v Speaker 3>through all of our strategic reserves and started a war

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<v Speaker 3>that he can't win in Iran, which is driven the

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<v Speaker 2>And so he's mad at Canada instead of himself.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the classic Trump thing, like yeah, sure, I blew

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<v Speaker 3>everything up. I really I really messed up. I've done

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<v Speaker 3>everything wrong. But hey, look at these guys over here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah and yeah, that is that is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a massive story. Canada is our largest aiding partner. It

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<v Speaker 3>just the degree of incompetence among among these people, the

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<v Speaker 3>incompetence of Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>World never stops growing. All this time.

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<v Speaker 3>You think, yeah, maybe they've had a peek, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they've done as much damage as they can.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh no, it's always like hold my beer, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to do some more damage.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Canada thing, I think is important for a

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<v Speaker 1>number of reasons that are relevant to this moment too,

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<v Speaker 1>which is we're less than eighty days from the midterms.

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<v Speaker 1>We have these senate races in states that but Canada, Maine, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are two seats of Democrats. Alaska desperately need to

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<v Speaker 1>win and they're competitive, and like, this is a gift

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<v Speaker 1>to doctor l said, it's a gift to Troy jen

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<v Speaker 1>It's a gift to Marry Potola to explain to us why.

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<v Speaker 3>All these all of these states you're talking about right now, Correctly,

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<v Speaker 3>you've exactly identified the issue. These states conduct a tremendous

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<v Speaker 3>amount of their own economic enterprise between themselves in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Michigan and Canada have traditionally over what was

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<v Speaker 3>the the old bridge and now the new bridge. Billions

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<v Speaker 3>and billions of dollars every single day go back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth between these countries. Whether it's food or auto parts,

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<v Speaker 3>everything is. It is a massive, massive economic driver for

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<v Speaker 3>that economy. And if you want to put a single

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<v Speaker 3>party behind the damage that's going to do to Michigan's economy,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Donald Trump's party. Not only because it's Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 3>doing it, but also because not a single Republican will

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<v Speaker 3>stand up and say, mister President, these tariffs are wrong

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<v Speaker 3>and they're hurting us. You know that's going to happen

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<v Speaker 3>again in Maine, Susan Collins can say I just feel

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<v Speaker 3>these parts aren't right. But since you'll go and vote

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<v Speaker 3>for every single thing Trump wants, it's going to really

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<v Speaker 3>hurt her. In Alaska, same story, Mary Peltola is going

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<v Speaker 3>to go to Sullivan and say, hey, you back the

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<v Speaker 3>tariffs that are hurting our economy, and he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>to say, Muhammed Ahamahammada, Donald Trump is a genius. They

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<v Speaker 3>are in a bad spot on these and even broader

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<v Speaker 3>than that, Molly one of the groups in America you

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<v Speaker 3>could profile as being some of the most pro Trump

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<v Speaker 3>people in the world. Cattlemen and farmers and ranchers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>they have been screwed this week by the announcement that

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is going to bring in six hundred thousand tons

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<v Speaker 3>of Brazilian and Argentinian mystery meat to try to bring

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<v Speaker 3>the price of beef down. And the reason American cattlemen

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<v Speaker 3>and ranchers and farmers have been so hurt is his

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<v Speaker 3>tariffs have destroyed their overseas markets, soybeans, corn, timber, and

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<v Speaker 3>his war has driven up the price of fertilizer and fuel.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you've got this weekend, there's a grassroots explosion

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<v Speaker 3>happening across this country of people who voted for Trump

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<v Speaker 3>three times, who voted Republican three times in the last

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<v Speaker 3>three election cycles, who are reddist red state guys, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, I'm done, He's killing our farms.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I mean, it is so interesting because we do

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<v Speaker 1>really have like Donald tripp is doing the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing about the tariffs, besides the specifics of

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<v Speaker 1>it will. It ultimately makes things more expensive too, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to get things to be cheaper, which

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<v Speaker 1>is I mean the irony here I feel like is

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration. You would watch them desperately trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get inflation to go down, and they would do everything

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<v Speaker 1>they could do it and it didn't work because very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get inflation to go down. Here's Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>doing things to make inflation go up.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct he is that every action he's taking with tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>is directly inflationary, every single one. And by the way, Molly,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the inflationary things about this that the White

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<v Speaker 3>House was not smart enough to figure out is grocery

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<v Speaker 3>store chains are going to buy this cheap beef and

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<v Speaker 3>not lower their prices. They're going to keep the profit

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<v Speaker 3>off the cheap beef. They're gonna keep the beef prices

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<v Speaker 3>where they are right now. They can't cut prices because

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<v Speaker 3>they are all driven by the quarterly report. You know

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<v Speaker 3>world that they all live in. They've all they've all

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<v Speaker 3>got to report their earnings every quarter, and if they

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<v Speaker 3>cut prices when they've gotten opportunity, they're gonna get punished

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<v Speaker 3>by their shareholders. They're they're not driven by the market

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<v Speaker 3>incentives people think they are. They don't care about market share.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all pretty much not monopolistic. But in most places,

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<v Speaker 3>most states, there's pretty much a very narrow range. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're not gonna be competing on price. They're gonna they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna pocket. They're gonna pocket the savings that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get by this cheaper beef coming in from overseas, and

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<v Speaker 3>consumers are still gonna get screwed. So Trump hurts farmers,

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<v Speaker 3>ranch cattlemen, but doesn't actually help consumers in the end.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an act of tre genius. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>we've ever had a smarter president than this, except all

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<v Speaker 3>of the rest of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is also the world in which these Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump does something that capitalists love to scream about, which

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<v Speaker 1>is price controls.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, as I grew up in that free market

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<v Speaker 3>Republican party, we were always so in love with with

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<v Speaker 2>It was really our favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing to do that and seizing the means of production

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<v Speaker 3>of course another of our favorite things.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, that's the communists.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's amazing though. Donald Trump said we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to run on communism this midterm. So none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm old enough to remember that when they

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<v Speaker 1>had those fake caravans, right, they're not even bothering with

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<v Speaker 1>the caravans. They're just gonna do communism this time. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're also going to do price controls and seizing public companies.

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<v Speaker 3>All I can say is is the combination of taking

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<v Speaker 3>over companies at from the White House, where where as

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<v Speaker 3>we are all aware, the Trump family is getting some

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<v Speaker 3>slice of each one of these companies on the back end,

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<v Speaker 3>somehow there's some deal going out.

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<v Speaker 1>Question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fact that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's done that for dozens of companies now, basically taking

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<v Speaker 3>them over as as US government entities. Now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>at some point, why doesn't he take over Walmart and

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<v Speaker 3>call it the Trump distribution system Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>It would not.

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't have even said that he's going to get

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<v Speaker 3>that idea in his head now and do it. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know he's doing everything. Oh what are hallmarks of

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<v Speaker 3>communist systems? Taking over the means of production? Check controlling

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<v Speaker 3>who can produce what where and when? Check secret police

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<v Speaker 3>force in the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>Check.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, play the internationale instead of the

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<v Speaker 3>national anthem for this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's what it looks like more and more right.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also I want to talk about sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the landscape for minute. So there was this big reporting

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<v Speaker 1>from Maggie and Annie Karney about this meeting between Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Kushner and you may know him as elected to nothing, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Keem Jeffries, you may know him as wanting desperately

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<v Speaker 1>to be the Speaker of the House. Talk us through

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<v Speaker 1>what you think that, what's your take on that?

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<v Speaker 3>So neither party is talking about it yet, but we

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<v Speaker 3>know the meeting took place from this excellent reporting, And

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<v Speaker 3>all I have to say to Hakem is, what the fuck, dude?

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<v Speaker 3>There is zero reason whatsoever to meet with the president's

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<v Speaker 3>son in law, who is his bag man, who is

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<v Speaker 3>also in the pocket of various Middle Eastern oil interests

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<v Speaker 3>and billionaires as their bagman, who is also running around

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<v Speaker 3>the world as a non credentialed diplomat for the president,

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<v Speaker 3>seeking basically bribes for Donald Trump in these countries in

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<v Speaker 3>exchange for foreign policy favors. Jared Kushner presents in this

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<v Speaker 3>mild sort of Westworld robot way, but he is lavishly

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<v Speaker 3>and wildly corrupt. Kim Jeffrey should have had the judgment

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<v Speaker 3>to never take a meeting with this guy, because that guy,

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<v Speaker 3>if the Democrats win, needs to be in front of

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<v Speaker 3>committees being investigated rather than getting a meeting with the

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<v Speaker 3>future speaker. I don't know if there was some motivation

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<v Speaker 3>for them to meet other than Donald Trump offering is

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<v Speaker 3>goddamn resignation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it. I'm not and it's seventy days

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<v Speaker 2>to the election. Molly, why would you do this? Why

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<v Speaker 2>on earth would you do this?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to I would love to know an explanation,

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<v Speaker 3>but I ain't seeing one so far.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to, can we let's do a game

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute where we guess who hooked them up?

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<v Speaker 1>Who broke this meeting? Because I have a guess, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a guess. I think it was Chuck Chuck Schumer.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, that's not my guess. You tell me why you

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<v Speaker 1>think that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because he knows the dad and he and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>he knows Jared enough, and why why.

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<v Speaker 2>Would he do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because he still believes that my honorable friends across the

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<v Speaker 3>aisle can be negotiated with.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so my guess, you're ready for my guest? My

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<v Speaker 1>guess is there are there are donors who donate BOTA

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and some Democrats, and they said to Keim, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to meet with Jared.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's as good an explanation as mine, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe better.

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<v Speaker 1>Because your explanation gives him more benefit of the doubt. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If Chuck has put this together, it's because there's anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump is going to mess with the midterms and

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to back channel with Jared.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something. So far, I think you could.

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<v Speaker 2>You could.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you could put the evidence of Trump messing

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<v Speaker 3>with the midterms, you know, as as as unqualified fact

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<v Speaker 3>at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>See, but I still don't know that that. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that Hakeem or Chuck Schumer would would burn the

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<v Speaker 3>world down even if they knew about it. That's my

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<v Speaker 3>that's my fear is that they're just going to be

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<v Speaker 3>too passive about everything. But the optics of taking this meeting,

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<v Speaker 3>there better be a really good reason for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So if Chuck Schumer organized it, at least there's

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility that it was for protecting the midterms, making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that the new House gets seated if they win.

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<v Speaker 1>You could make a case that they had more less

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<v Speaker 1>nefarious goals. If a big Democratic slash Trump Donori, of

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<v Speaker 1>which we know there are not many, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people who know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a meaningful number of those. There's a there's a

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<v Speaker 2>non zero number of those. I mean, that's a real group.

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<v Speaker 1>If those people did a meet and arranged eating between

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<v Speaker 1>Jared and Hakim, then what do we think they were doing,

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think they were trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To protect it, trying to protect what apec.

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<v Speaker 1>IPAK and Israel writ large.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be could be.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say this again, Jared Kushner is not

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<v Speaker 3>an honest broker in this fight, right. He is not

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<v Speaker 3>a legitimate representative of the of even the president in

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<v Speaker 3>this fight, because yes, he's the son in law. But

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<v Speaker 3>but we now have a decade of evidence about who

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<v Speaker 3>Jared Kushner is. He is not representing America's interests. He

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<v Speaker 3>is representing the interests of the people who own him

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<v Speaker 3>and his hedge fund from the Middle East, from Saudi

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<v Speaker 3>and from Qatar. And I do not see Jared as

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<v Speaker 3>a as an honest broker in this if.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>If it's about Israel, they could have said so, and

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<v Speaker 3>and and Hakim would have had some cover on that

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<v Speaker 3>from from a meaningful number of his Look, some of

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<v Speaker 3>his cocks would have been pissy about it, most of

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<v Speaker 3>its causes would, right. But my fear is that is

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<v Speaker 3>that Jared presents less trumpy right then than the weirdos

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<v Speaker 3>and the Yahoos and the and the and the dipshits

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<v Speaker 3>in the cabinet. That does not make him less dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think we'll see what happens with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But remember the the elections in Israel happened a month

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<v Speaker 1>before the elections in America.

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<v Speaker 3>So and so I talked to somebody on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, it's Israel's going through the usual thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, There's there are some you know, aggressive candidates

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<v Speaker 3>going up against BB, and BB is pulling out all

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<v Speaker 3>the stops, all the extra legal bullshit. And and this

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<v Speaker 3>person is not a fan of bby met Yahoo by

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<v Speaker 3>any conceivable stretch the imagination. And he's like, listen, I

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<v Speaker 3>still give the guy odds to win because he's just

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<v Speaker 3>he's just he appeals to enough of those small religious

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<v Speaker 3>parties and enough of his traditional base that he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to try to cling on. Would it be better for

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<v Speaker 3>the world if he wasn't absolutely, But what if Netanyah

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<v Speaker 3>who wins another term. I think it's very concerning for

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<v Speaker 3>for the prospects of of of not the U. S,

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<v Speaker 3>but but for the globe because you know, if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to look at the proximate cause of Trump taking

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<v Speaker 3>the bait on Iran, it's that teleconference that he had

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<v Speaker 3>with Yaho where net who psyched him into it. Because

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is not that smart and he's not that he's

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<v Speaker 3>not that good at this at this game, and Netanyahu

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<v Speaker 3>is a master of this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Wilson, well, drunk fast, will you come back?

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<v Speaker 2>You bet?

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<v Speaker 4>You