Speaker 1: Rick Wilson.
Speaker 2: Hello, Molly, how's your day?
Speaker 1: Just you know, another day. So here's my question for you.
Speaker 1: We are in the middle of the Natalie Harp gop
Speaker 1: meltdown Donald.
Speaker 2: The never ending Harpathon. Harp.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has a personal aid. She is, She's a
Speaker 1: she's a presidential aid, right, what I mean what? And
Speaker 1: she writes his tweets. And she also declined to get
Speaker 1: a security clearance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and she she rides in the back of
Speaker 3: the Motorcato.
Speaker 2: By the back of the motorcato Trump, that's right.
Speaker 1: And then this weekend we saw lots of photos of
Speaker 1: her running after golf cards. Somebody is doing the Lincoln
Speaker 1: from the White House.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to make and make the call
Speaker 3: right now. Molly and I've talked about this a little bit.
Speaker 3: If you know Susie Wiles, which she does not like
Speaker 3: wild cards.
Speaker 2: She doesn't like cuckoos. She likes professionals.
Speaker 3: She likes people who can be relied upon to take
Speaker 3: care of the mission and the job. Natalie Harp is
Speaker 3: the kind of wild card that sends a Susie Wiles
Speaker 3: into an apoplectic fit. And so my guess here is
Speaker 3: that a lot of it. Yes, I think some of
Speaker 3: it is coming from Carolyn.
Speaker 4: Levitt, who who is not happy being left behind on
Speaker 4: the death plane. But some of it is has definitely
Speaker 4: got the smell of a sort of Susie Wiles Purge,
Speaker 4: the crazy operation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want to I want to do another
Speaker 1: minute on that. The decoy plane. So earlier in the
Speaker 1: last two week news cycle we learned about this decoy plane.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's hidden in a catering truck he takes with him.
Speaker 1: Natalie Harp on the decoy plane are basically everyone else
Speaker 1: except for Pete Heggsa's right.
Speaker 3: Listen, Natalie is now entering into a space in our politics, Molly,
Speaker 3: that is not a space you want to be in
Speaker 3: as a presidential aid.
Speaker 2: The presidential aid job is to never be the story,
Speaker 2: to never ever be the story. And right now she
Speaker 2: is the story.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's weird because last weekend this was
Speaker 3: a big story and I would have thought, Okay, it'll
Speaker 3: fall apart in a few days, It'll it'll get boring,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever the mystery is. The mystery is maybe
Speaker 3: Milania is gonna leak a little bit about.
Speaker 2: It, who knows.
Speaker 3: But but the story hasn't gone away, It hasn't gotten
Speaker 3: better because the White House has screwed this up so badly.
Speaker 3: They have messed us up in every possible dimension. And
Speaker 3: not only the press can't look away from it, but
Speaker 3: now everybody else in the White House can't look away
Speaker 3: from it because the power that Harp has inside the
Speaker 3: White House is to be the last person in the
Speaker 3: room with Donald Trump at all times, which would Donald
Speaker 3: Trump she listens to the last person in the room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they also I also think that they really
Speaker 1: did streisan this thing right like this.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know you're a one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Right like this week, and this week we had Malania
Speaker 1: come out and say, I hear you missed me right?
Speaker 2: Why you missing me so much?
Speaker 1: Right? So she comes back, which then again is more
Speaker 1: kerosene on the fire. At every point there was an
Speaker 1: opportunity to just like let this thing die.
Speaker 3: And hold it off, to let it die, to stop
Speaker 3: talking about it.
Speaker 2: And yet they won't stop talking about it, and I listen.
Speaker 3: Part of that is that it's being driven by what
Speaker 3: I'm what I'm gonna what I'm gonna call by my
Speaker 3: theoretical knowledge, no internal knowledge.
Speaker 2: The Wiles Leavitt faction. Let's just call that for the moment, right.
Speaker 3: But they've also driven it because all of the MAGA
Speaker 3: influencers who have been marching to the orders, you know,
Speaker 3: and those guys normally take their their their marching orders
Speaker 3: from Scavino, right, and from Stephen Chung. They're all out
Speaker 3: there just tearing there. How dare you not only harm
Speaker 3: is the finest of Americans, He'll tell you, sir, and
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: It is making them look crazy.
Speaker 3: It is making it sound like somebody's sent orders down,
Speaker 3: like defend the president's girlfriend rather than let's put this
Speaker 3: crisis behind us.
Speaker 1: And also Scaveno, not Scavino. Stephen Chung had this first
Speaker 1: tweet that was the one that actually drew all the
Speaker 1: attention to it to begin with, which was a tax.
Speaker 3: John oss Off and like calling John oss Off a cuck. Sorry,
Speaker 3: if there's a cuck in the room, it's it's Stephen
Speaker 3: Chung sitting on the extra strength cup chair. Well, but
Speaker 3: they caused this problem for themselves money, They bought this
Speaker 3: entire problem by being idiots.
Speaker 1: But and you know what's funny about this story is
Speaker 1: like they're doing, they're trying to distract from they would
Speaker 1: like to distract from this, but what they're doing this weekend,
Speaker 1: that's like the real story if you wanted to, you
Speaker 1: know how, there's always sort of a real story in
Speaker 1: a fakes The real story is the absolute disastrous trade
Speaker 1: war with cat.
Speaker 2: Which is milly.
Speaker 3: I mean, first off, somebody betweeted about this yesterday thread
Speaker 3: it I guess, and it was like master of the
Speaker 3: Art of the deal blows deal with friendliest nation on Earth.
Speaker 3: I mean, Canada was ready to put this behind us
Speaker 3: and to cool it off, and yet Trump had to
Speaker 3: go in and be an asshole. And he went into
Speaker 3: be an asshole because of two big things. One Canada,
Speaker 3: for its own needs, has to keep some of it
Speaker 3: some of its own petroleum production. They do need gas
Speaker 3: still and diesel, and he wanted more because he's burned
Speaker 3: through all of our strategic reserves and started a war
Speaker 3: that he can't win in Iran, which is driven the
Speaker 3: price and the supply of oil, the price up and
Speaker 3: the supply supplied down down.
Speaker 2: And so he's mad at Canada instead of himself.
Speaker 3: It's the classic Trump thing, like yeah, sure, I blew
Speaker 3: everything up. I really I really messed up. I've done
Speaker 3: everything wrong. But hey, look at these guys over here.
Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, that is that is going to be
Speaker 3: a massive story. Canada is our largest aiding partner. It
Speaker 3: just the degree of incompetence among among these people, the
Speaker 3: incompetence of Trump.
Speaker 2: World never stops growing. All this time.
Speaker 3: You think, yeah, maybe they've had a peek, maybe they're
Speaker 3: maybe they've done as much damage as they can.
Speaker 2: But oh no, it's always like hold my beer, dude,
Speaker 2: We're going to do some more damage.
Speaker 1: But the Canada thing, I think is important for a
Speaker 1: number of reasons that are relevant to this moment too,
Speaker 1: which is we're less than eighty days from the midterms.
Speaker 1: We have these senate races in states that but Canada, Maine, Michigan.
Speaker 1: Those are two seats of Democrats. Alaska desperately need to
Speaker 1: win and they're competitive, and like, this is a gift
Speaker 1: to doctor l said, it's a gift to Troy jen
Speaker 1: It's a gift to Marry Potola to explain to us why.
Speaker 3: All these all of these states you're talking about right now, Correctly,
Speaker 3: you've exactly identified the issue. These states conduct a tremendous
Speaker 3: amount of their own economic enterprise between themselves in Canada.
Speaker 3: I mean Michigan and Canada have traditionally over what was
Speaker 3: the the old bridge and now the new bridge. Billions
Speaker 3: and billions of dollars every single day go back and
Speaker 3: forth between these countries. Whether it's food or auto parts,
Speaker 3: everything is. It is a massive, massive economic driver for
Speaker 3: that economy. And if you want to put a single
Speaker 3: party behind the damage that's going to do to Michigan's economy,
Speaker 3: it's Donald Trump's party. Not only because it's Donald Trump
Speaker 3: doing it, but also because not a single Republican will
Speaker 3: stand up and say, mister President, these tariffs are wrong
Speaker 3: and they're hurting us. You know that's going to happen
Speaker 3: again in Maine, Susan Collins can say I just feel
Speaker 3: these parts aren't right. But since you'll go and vote
Speaker 3: for every single thing Trump wants, it's going to really
Speaker 3: hurt her. In Alaska, same story, Mary Peltola is going
Speaker 3: to go to Sullivan and say, hey, you back the
Speaker 3: tariffs that are hurting our economy, and he's gonna have
Speaker 3: to say, Muhammed Ahamahammada, Donald Trump is a genius. They
Speaker 3: are in a bad spot on these and even broader
Speaker 3: than that, Molly one of the groups in America you
Speaker 3: could profile as being some of the most pro Trump
Speaker 3: people in the world. Cattlemen and farmers and ranchers. Okay,
Speaker 3: they have been screwed this week by the announcement that
Speaker 3: Trump is going to bring in six hundred thousand tons
Speaker 3: of Brazilian and Argentinian mystery meat to try to bring
Speaker 3: the price of beef down. And the reason American cattlemen
Speaker 3: and ranchers and farmers have been so hurt is his
Speaker 3: tariffs have destroyed their overseas markets, soybeans, corn, timber, and
Speaker 3: his war has driven up the price of fertilizer and fuel.
Speaker 3: And so you've got this weekend, there's a grassroots explosion
Speaker 3: happening across this country of people who voted for Trump
Speaker 3: three times, who voted Republican three times in the last
Speaker 3: three election cycles, who are reddist red state guys, and
Speaker 3: they're like, I'm done, He's killing our farms.
Speaker 1: No. I mean, it is so interesting because we do
Speaker 1: really have like Donald tripp is doing the opposite of
Speaker 1: what his voters wanted him to do. And I think
Speaker 1: the other thing about the tariffs, besides the specifics of
Speaker 1: like hurting the specific economies of these states is that
Speaker 1: it will. It ultimately makes things more expensive too, So
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get things to be cheaper, which
Speaker 1: is I mean the irony here I feel like is
Speaker 1: the Biden administration. You would watch them desperately trying to
Speaker 1: get inflation to go down, and they would do everything
Speaker 1: they could do it and it didn't work because very
Speaker 1: hard to get inflation to go down. Here's Donald Trump
Speaker 1: doing things to make inflation go up.
Speaker 3: Correct he is that every action he's taking with tariffs
Speaker 3: is directly inflationary, every single one. And by the way, Molly,
Speaker 3: one of the inflationary things about this that the White
Speaker 3: House was not smart enough to figure out is grocery
Speaker 3: store chains are going to buy this cheap beef and
Speaker 3: not lower their prices. They're going to keep the profit
Speaker 3: off the cheap beef. They're gonna keep the beef prices
Speaker 3: where they are right now. They can't cut prices because
Speaker 3: they are all driven by the quarterly report. You know
Speaker 3: world that they all live in. They've all they've all
Speaker 3: got to report their earnings every quarter, and if they
Speaker 3: cut prices when they've gotten opportunity, they're gonna get punished
Speaker 3: by their shareholders. They're they're not driven by the market
Speaker 3: incentives people think they are. They don't care about market share.
Speaker 3: They're all pretty much not monopolistic. But in most places,
Speaker 3: most states, there's pretty much a very narrow range. So
Speaker 3: they're not gonna be competing on price. They're gonna they're
Speaker 3: gonna pocket. They're gonna pocket the savings that they're gonna
Speaker 3: get by this cheaper beef coming in from overseas, and
Speaker 3: consumers are still gonna get screwed. So Trump hurts farmers,
Speaker 3: ranch cattlemen, but doesn't actually help consumers in the end.
Speaker 3: It's an act of tre genius. I don't know if
Speaker 3: we've ever had a smarter president than this, except all
Speaker 3: of the rest of them.
Speaker 1: But there is also the world in which these Donald
Speaker 1: Trump does something that capitalists love to scream about, which
Speaker 1: is price controls.
Speaker 3: You know, as I grew up in that free market
Speaker 3: Republican party, we were always so in love with with
Speaker 3: price controls.
Speaker 2: It was really our favorite.
Speaker 3: Thing to do that and seizing the means of production
Speaker 3: of course another of our favorite things.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, that's the communists.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's amazing though. Donald Trump said we're going
Speaker 1: to run on communism this midterm. So none of that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm old enough to remember that when they
Speaker 1: had those fake caravans, right, they're not even bothering with
Speaker 1: the caravans. They're just gonna do communism this time. But
Speaker 1: they're also going to do price controls and seizing public companies.
Speaker 3: All I can say is is the combination of taking
Speaker 3: over companies at from the White House, where where as
Speaker 3: we are all aware, the Trump family is getting some
Speaker 3: slice of each one of these companies on the back end,
Speaker 3: somehow there's some deal going out.
Speaker 1: Question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that.
Speaker 3: He's done that for dozens of companies now, basically taking
Speaker 3: them over as as US government entities. Now, I mean,
Speaker 3: at some point, why doesn't he take over Walmart and
Speaker 3: call it the Trump distribution system Trump?
Speaker 2: It would not.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have even said that he's going to get
Speaker 3: that idea in his head now and do it. But
Speaker 3: you know he's doing everything. Oh what are hallmarks of
Speaker 3: communist systems? Taking over the means of production? Check controlling
Speaker 3: who can produce what where and when? Check secret police
Speaker 3: force in the streets.
Speaker 2: Check.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, play the internationale instead of the
Speaker 3: national anthem for this guy.
Speaker 2: Because that's what it looks like more and more right.
Speaker 1: And it's also I want to talk about sort of
Speaker 1: the landscape for minute. So there was this big reporting
Speaker 1: from Maggie and Annie Karney about this meeting between Jared
Speaker 1: Kushner and you may know him as elected to nothing, yes,
Speaker 1: and Keem Jeffries, you may know him as wanting desperately
Speaker 1: to be the Speaker of the House. Talk us through
Speaker 1: what you think that, what's your take on that?
Speaker 3: So neither party is talking about it yet, but we
Speaker 3: know the meeting took place from this excellent reporting, And
Speaker 3: all I have to say to Hakem is, what the fuck, dude?
Speaker 3: There is zero reason whatsoever to meet with the president's
Speaker 3: son in law, who is his bag man, who is
Speaker 3: also in the pocket of various Middle Eastern oil interests
Speaker 3: and billionaires as their bagman, who is also running around
Speaker 3: the world as a non credentialed diplomat for the president,
Speaker 3: seeking basically bribes for Donald Trump in these countries in
Speaker 3: exchange for foreign policy favors. Jared Kushner presents in this
Speaker 3: mild sort of Westworld robot way, but he is lavishly
Speaker 3: and wildly corrupt. Kim Jeffrey should have had the judgment
Speaker 3: to never take a meeting with this guy, because that guy,
Speaker 3: if the Democrats win, needs to be in front of
Speaker 3: committees being investigated rather than getting a meeting with the
Speaker 3: future speaker. I don't know if there was some motivation
Speaker 3: for them to meet other than Donald Trump offering is
Speaker 3: goddamn resignation.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I'm not and it's seventy days
Speaker 2: to the election. Molly, why would you do this? Why
Speaker 2: on earth would you do this?
Speaker 3: I want to I would love to know an explanation,
Speaker 3: but I ain't seeing one so far.
Speaker 1: So you want to, can we let's do a game
Speaker 1: for a minute where we guess who hooked them up?
Speaker 1: Who broke this meeting? Because I have a guess, and
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 2: I have a guess. I think it was Chuck Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1: Really, that's not my guess. You tell me why you
Speaker 1: think that?
Speaker 3: Because he knows the dad and he and I'm sure
Speaker 3: he knows Jared enough, and why why.
Speaker 2: Would he do it?
Speaker 3: Because he still believes that my honorable friends across the
Speaker 3: aisle can be negotiated with.
Speaker 1: Okay, so my guess, you're ready for my guest? My
Speaker 1: guess is there are there are donors who donate BOTA
Speaker 1: Trump and some Democrats, and they said to Keim, you
Speaker 1: got to meet with Jared.
Speaker 3: I think that's as good an explanation as mine, and
Speaker 3: maybe better.
Speaker 1: Because your explanation gives him more benefit of the doubt. Right.
Speaker 1: If Chuck has put this together, it's because there's anxiety
Speaker 1: that Trump is going to mess with the midterms and
Speaker 1: they're trying to back channel with Jared.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. So far, I think you could.
Speaker 2: You could.
Speaker 3: I think you could put the evidence of Trump messing
Speaker 3: with the midterms, you know, as as as unqualified fact
Speaker 3: at this point.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: See, but I still don't know that that. I don't
Speaker 3: know that Hakeem or Chuck Schumer would would burn the
Speaker 3: world down even if they knew about it. That's my
Speaker 3: that's my fear is that they're just going to be
Speaker 3: too passive about everything. But the optics of taking this meeting,
Speaker 3: there better be a really good reason for it.
Speaker 1: Right, So if Chuck Schumer organized it, at least there's
Speaker 1: the possibility that it was for protecting the midterms, making
Speaker 1: sure that the new House gets seated if they win.
Speaker 1: You could make a case that they had more less
Speaker 1: nefarious goals. If a big Democratic slash Trump Donori, of
Speaker 1: which we know there are not many, but there are
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who know.
Speaker 2: There's a meaningful number of those. There's a there's a
Speaker 2: non zero number of those. I mean, that's a real group.
Speaker 1: If those people did a meet and arranged eating between
Speaker 1: Jared and Hakim, then what do we think they were doing,
Speaker 1: Because I think they were trying.
Speaker 2: To protect it, trying to protect what apec.
Speaker 1: IPAK and Israel writ large.
Speaker 2: Could be could be.
Speaker 3: But I will say this again, Jared Kushner is not
Speaker 3: an honest broker in this fight, right. He is not
Speaker 3: a legitimate representative of the of even the president in
Speaker 3: this fight, because yes, he's the son in law. But
Speaker 3: but we now have a decade of evidence about who
Speaker 3: Jared Kushner is. He is not representing America's interests. He
Speaker 3: is representing the interests of the people who own him
Speaker 3: and his hedge fund from the Middle East, from Saudi
Speaker 3: and from Qatar. And I do not see Jared as
Speaker 3: a as an honest broker in this if.
Speaker 2: It's about Israel.
Speaker 3: If it's about Israel, they could have said so, and
Speaker 3: and and Hakim would have had some cover on that
Speaker 3: from from a meaningful number of his Look, some of
Speaker 3: his cocks would have been pissy about it, most of
Speaker 3: its causes would, right. But my fear is that is
Speaker 3: that Jared presents less trumpy right then than the weirdos
Speaker 3: and the Yahoos and the and the and the dipshits
Speaker 3: in the cabinet. That does not make him less dangerous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 1: But remember the the elections in Israel happened a month
Speaker 1: before the elections in America.
Speaker 3: So and so I talked to somebody on Thursday.
Speaker 2: You said, it's Israel's going through the usual thing.
Speaker 3: Right now, There's there are some you know, aggressive candidates
Speaker 3: going up against BB, and BB is pulling out all
Speaker 3: the stops, all the extra legal bullshit. And and this
Speaker 3: person is not a fan of bby met Yahoo by
Speaker 3: any conceivable stretch the imagination. And he's like, listen, I
Speaker 3: still give the guy odds to win because he's just
Speaker 3: he's just he appeals to enough of those small religious
Speaker 3: parties and enough of his traditional base that he's going
Speaker 3: to try to cling on. Would it be better for
Speaker 3: the world if he wasn't absolutely, But what if Netanyah
Speaker 3: who wins another term. I think it's very concerning for
Speaker 3: for the prospects of of of not the U. S,
Speaker 3: but but for the globe because you know, if you
Speaker 3: want to look at the proximate cause of Trump taking
Speaker 3: the bait on Iran, it's that teleconference that he had
Speaker 3: with Yaho where net who psyched him into it. Because
Speaker 3: Trump is not that smart and he's not that he's
Speaker 3: not that good at this at this game, and Netanyahu
Speaker 3: is a master of this game.
Speaker 1: Rick Wilson, well, drunk fast, will you come back?
Speaker 2: You bet?
Speaker 4: You