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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Lace, adult film star, content creator, co host of

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<v Speaker 1>the Burbank Misfits podcast, and my guest for the evening.

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<v Speaker 1>You know exactly where you can find her at I

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<v Speaker 1>Am Sarah Lace. Links to all of her social media

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<v Speaker 1>and her website are in the episode description below. Please

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you support the creators that come on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise they stop coming on the show. Sarah, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pleasure to have you on this evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me. Matt. Honestly, it

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<v Speaker 2>has been a while since I have been a guest

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<v Speaker 2>on a podcast. You know, usually I'm the one interviewing,

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<v Speaker 2>But I are you excited for this?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one complaint on my channel is, Matt, you asked

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<v Speaker 1>a good question and then you followed it up with

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<v Speaker 1>six more right next to each other, and she couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>answer it. So it's good to have someone on who's

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<v Speaker 1>a talker, who I can just ask a question. Just

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<v Speaker 1>shut up, Matt, shut the fuck, don't say anything. Go

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<v Speaker 1>let her talk, Sarah. Let me start with the super

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<v Speaker 1>basic question. Okay, you're living in a vanilla life. At

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<v Speaker 1>some point, normal boring you decide you need a change.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you initially get into the adult entertainment industry

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<v Speaker 1>and what field was it? Was it camming, stripping? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you immediately go to start shooting for the big guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where did you cross, not in a negative way,

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<v Speaker 1>cross that line from the standard world into the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny enough, this actually is going to turn into a

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<v Speaker 2>long story. Okay, the job I had before this, I

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<v Speaker 2>was actually in the military. While I was in I

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<v Speaker 2>was only doing photo shoots, usually bikini stuff some implied dude,

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<v Speaker 2>but during that time it was never fully nude. But

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<v Speaker 2>at some point my photos started going around and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>people were enjoying it, but obviously that's not what they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted for someone in the military. So we ended up

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<v Speaker 2>parting ways and I kind of was like, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>in a sense, I'm free, so let's do this. And

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<v Speaker 2>I had a few friends who were models as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and they, you know, they filmed some fetish stuff, some

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<v Speaker 2>amateur scenes, and they kind of helped me get into

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<v Speaker 2>that side of the industry. So I evolved from regular

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<v Speaker 2>modeling to nude and then I actually started my very

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<v Speaker 2>first scene. My friend I was supposed to go with

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<v Speaker 2>her kind of just like as an escort because she

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to do like a bondage scene, some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of some light BDSM floggy and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>she had bruises from a previous BDSM scene that she

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<v Speaker 2>did a couple of days ago. But I was unbruised.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do anything like that, and so they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to call the scene then and there, and they

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just looked at me and were like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity is here. Would you like to film some

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<v Speaker 2>fetish stuff? And at that point it was non penetration,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was still like just like a little teas

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<v Speaker 2>or an appetizer to what the industry was. And I

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<v Speaker 2>truly truly enjoyed myself. And so from there I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, you know what, let's do this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe I'll stirt off with some solos. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I hopped onto like amateur scenes and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 2>and really just evolved to who I am now.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask, this is not something I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done so many of these interviews I've talked to,

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<v Speaker 1>like some of the queens of like BDSM and this

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<v Speaker 1>and that. You can't have And I guess it does

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<v Speaker 1>make sense. The girl you came along with you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have bruises going into that scene. Is that do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that's part of like the allure of the porn?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have this quote unquote clean like no marks

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<v Speaker 1>or anything girl, and then you're marking her during the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it not like a marking scene?

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<v Speaker 2>So that scene wasn't necessarily a marking scene, but for them,

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<v Speaker 2>they were thinking more about the actual the health and

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<v Speaker 2>wellness of the actress. Oh yeah, like you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to be tied up for three more hours and

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<v Speaker 2>you already have bruises, which means that you know, your

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<v Speaker 2>blood is quatty and there's stuff going on in you

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<v Speaker 2>bodies trying to heal already. We can't be damaging your

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<v Speaker 2>body even more during this healing process.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so crazy that my first thought was, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to fuck up production? Now, let's move on to the

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<v Speaker 1>next girl. I am not a monster, but I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>was in that business mindset. I get it. Being in

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<v Speaker 1>that mindset, you're like, hey, we got to get the

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<v Speaker 1>shit done. You know today. I want to bring that

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<v Speaker 1>up later because I want to talk about doing your

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<v Speaker 1>own content and what it was like, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>switch over or to try and step into that world.

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<v Speaker 1>But so let me ask this. This question's on here

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of gave the job backstory, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But my question is, did you have any

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<v Speaker 1>jobs before you got into the industry and did you

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<v Speaker 1>take any of those skills and translate them to the

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<v Speaker 1>adult world. Now you were in the military, what did

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<v Speaker 1>we get? Did we get like organization? Like are you

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<v Speaker 1>able to you talk? See? This is what I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Yes, I feel like I can definitely be

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<v Speaker 2>hyper organized. I do think that sometimes that can be

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<v Speaker 2>a fault because I will make so many lists and

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<v Speaker 2>keep going and be like, Okay, for one day, I

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<v Speaker 2>eat this list. Other days stuff like that. But one

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<v Speaker 2>thing about me is I always try to do my

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<v Speaker 2>research the best in my ability. So for example, we

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<v Speaker 2>had this podcast, I actually have it on my schedule

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<v Speaker 2>where our podcast is scheduled fifteen minutes earlier. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I always try to be fifteen minutes early two things,

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<v Speaker 2>or for example, for this I use those ten to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minutes in order to set up my equipment and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the military definitely has helped me with scheduling, organization, structure.

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<v Speaker 1>Insurance chew oh endurance is what that is interesting now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just put this theory in my head and I've

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<v Speaker 1>never thought of this before, but I always I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me try and come up with something unique for porn.

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<v Speaker 1>And my last idea wasn't great. It was like Airbnb porn.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a lot of stationary cameras kind of

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<v Speaker 1>around the house and you play up a scenario. And

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<v Speaker 1>then another girl was like, they do that shit already

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, all right, that's dumb. So

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<v Speaker 1>what about porn star boot Camp? Have they done that yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Or if you grab like girls who want to start

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<v Speaker 1>only fans and we get them like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more in shape, we get the endurance up. Nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with them, and there's all kinds of body types. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to defend myself every time. I love everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's good. But we're telling these girls up a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more. We teach them about structure, about waking up

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<v Speaker 1>early quick, get on chatterbait quick, d you know like

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<v Speaker 1>we do that. Is there anything like that? And can

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<v Speaker 1>we turn this into content?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't think that we have that just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there are some kind of like reality

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<v Speaker 2>style shows where they have people kind of like fake

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<v Speaker 2>dating can get together or whatever. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we've done any kind of corn start boot camp. But

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<v Speaker 2>what you were saying about endurance, though, is there's more

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<v Speaker 2>than just physical endurance. There's mental endurance as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>this boot camp would definitely be for all sizes if

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<v Speaker 2>we do decide to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I wouldn't Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>all right now, if this is too personal, please would

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<v Speaker 1>tell me to dial back because I've heard this before.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you? And again, I'm not going to delve deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to make a greater point. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>what they refer to as a legacy military brad or

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<v Speaker 1>were you the first one in the military. I only

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<v Speaker 1>asked that because you have a ton of performers in

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<v Speaker 1>this industry. Anna Fox is who I think of who

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<v Speaker 1>is a military brat. I believe Alex Falks got out

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<v Speaker 1>of the military. There's been a few that I've actually

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<v Speaker 1>like talked to. Is there something in that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>First off, first question, did you grow up like a

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<v Speaker 1>military bret moving around at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Or No? I actually was not. I'm actually first generation citizens,

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, in a sense, my generation is the first

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<v Speaker 2>ones to kind of make something of themselves within the US.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, and that's I mean, that is the American dream,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Literally, however, whatever you can do to make

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<v Speaker 1>your way through the world, like you know, whoever's going

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<v Speaker 1>to judge you isn't paying your fucking bills, so fuck

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<v Speaker 1>almost right, Okay, So then I wonder what it is

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do a deeper dive into that. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>be in my group, my test group of people who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, former military, what caused you to decide

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<v Speaker 1>to do this? Blah blah blah? All right, makes sense? Good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you think about it, military people, you're

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<v Speaker 2>running all that, you're dealing with things that are a

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<v Speaker 2>high energy, high adrenaline. Yeah, and if you think about

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<v Speaker 2>the fight and flight responses, what happens after that is

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<v Speaker 2>the want to reproduce. Actually, it's just that human instinct.

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<v Speaker 2>So in a sense, like after the adrenaline's gone down

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<v Speaker 2>from the day, you kind of just want to fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Smartest breakdown I've heard of that, Yeah, that makes total

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<v Speaker 1>sense to me. I bet the horniest dudes in the

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<v Speaker 1>world are like under sea welders. A guy who's just

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<v Speaker 1>in an intense situation and he comes up and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to throw it in something. Please right now? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask this. And again, I don't like to

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<v Speaker 1>delve too deeply, even though my show it's called Going Deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>But what type of girl were you growing up? Were

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<v Speaker 1>you like a shy good girl or like could people

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<v Speaker 1>kind of telescope this might be a career path for you, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, there's that Sarah Lad's girl again.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny enough, I was actually that shy, nerdy girl kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a do gooder. I mean, I still skirted

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<v Speaker 2>around the rules to an extent, like I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>other people's homework for them, like I was getting paid

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<v Speaker 2>good in that side hustle. But at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, I didn't just let people freely cheat. I

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<v Speaker 2>still try to also make sure that they knew what

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<v Speaker 2>they were learning or like whatever I'm supposed to. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm supposed to write an essay for them, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still gonna kind of like tutor them on what that

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<v Speaker 2>essay is about. They understand it, and then I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna write the essay for them and they'll give me

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing blows me away more than interviewing performers who it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so funny because you have the outside perception of performers. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>here's my ignorant, thumb caveman perception. Sarah Lace wakes up,

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<v Speaker 1>she goes to set, she does her hair, she fucks

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<v Speaker 1>a guy, she comes home, and then she gets paid

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars and you go, well, that does sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty good job. But when you actually look

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<v Speaker 1>at this, what's so funny to me is I asked

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<v Speaker 1>that question because I want to hear if like, you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a lot of boyfriends, or oh you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>keep a relation. Your answer was, oh, I would ethically

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<v Speaker 1>do people's homework for them as long as I can

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<v Speaker 1>explain it to them as well. It's like, oh, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so how do we connect the dots to here? I

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was I was in that shy bubble

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<v Speaker 2>for so long that I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>let's explore it. I'm an adult, I'm responsible, I know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm doing, and even my friend who took me

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what's a safe practice, Like there's paperwork and

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<v Speaker 2>testing and so much involved. Let's do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let me let me try this in a safe manner

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, so you just described what sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>good set. Again, my idea was immediately like, oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get a new girl in here. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see those No, no, no, it was for her safety. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good set. Let me ask you, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to ask you to name anyone specifically, but I

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<v Speaker 1>assume you have also worked on bad sets in your career. Yes, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What separates a good set from a bad set mostly

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes the simplest thing will be if they do not

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<v Speaker 2>have a videographer wow, Or if their paperwork just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looks a little off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even if you have it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like signed paperwork before, sometimes you will look at it

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<v Speaker 2>and you'll be like, this looks like it's been photo

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<v Speaker 2>copied like a million different times.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, copy of a copy of a copy. Yeah. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so just I mean, saying this line here sounds worse

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<v Speaker 1>than it is, But creating the perception of professionalism is

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<v Speaker 1>what should be right. Come to you with fresh paperwork,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. The one complaint I heard from a girl

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<v Speaker 1>the last interview I did, she said she showed up

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<v Speaker 1>to a set and there was a dirty shower. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>bare minimum, just make the shower clean. Someone clean out

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<v Speaker 1>the shower because I'm going to want to wipe all

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<v Speaker 1>this off afterwards, and I don't want to get in

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<v Speaker 1>some grimy, shitty, you know shower. Have the facilities nice enough, right?

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<v Speaker 2>That is true, That is definitely true. But there's certain

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<v Speaker 2>things like that that are out of their control. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like sometimes they're given a location or the location they

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<v Speaker 2>originally planned ends up not working, so they find something

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<v Speaker 2>at the last minute, and you kind of just work

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like lower your expectations just so you're happy.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like in general, there is something about like,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as the set is safe, I'm fine filming

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<v Speaker 2>whatever random role play we're about to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there was a there's some producer on a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast right now going like Emphtex Kinko's was closed, so

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't make copies and I had to print out

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<v Speaker 1>an extra one and Sarah hated it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, okay, all right, let's do a thing I

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<v Speaker 2>So my complaint for that though.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Paper was like this, yes, and this was what I

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so they need even like size it properly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm already half lying. So I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>can barely read this. That was that was the complaint.

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<v Speaker 2>It was say anything like too bad, But I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just working with this. True, that's right, Paperworkugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah, I want to do a thing I call stat check.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the thing. These numbers are entirely wrong. It

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<v Speaker 1>is from the Internet Adult Film Database, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the Internet Movie Database, but for adult films.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what they don't include. I don't know, like half

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes you've shot, like none of the of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever. I'm just using it as a metric as

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<v Speaker 1>at this date and time, these were the numbers of

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<v Speaker 1>your career. And then a year from now when we

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<v Speaker 1>check in and you're drowning in av and Awards. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, Sarah, things really took off. Huh wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that wonderful? Sarah Lace. You have shot one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eleven scenes. You have worked with twenty nine women, You've

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<v Speaker 1>worked with fifty two men, been nominated for three AV Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>I only stay AVN because all the others, I just

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<v Speaker 1>it's too much of balance. You are you are, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>a nominee or a winner of an Urban X as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good enough, that's fair, just being recognized as good

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<v Speaker 1>three noms, no AV and wins. Yet not yet, we're

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<v Speaker 1>saving it. Say there you go. Does anything stand out

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<v Speaker 1>to you? And maybe the answer is no. As your

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<v Speaker 1>defining scene to this point, is there anything that fans

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<v Speaker 1>most you know, commonly come up to you and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>your shot on this thing was fucking aught? Da da da.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say the one that probably changed the trajectory

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<v Speaker 2>of my career was actually the my bang Bro scene

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<v Speaker 2>was my first like truly professional scene. I was not

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<v Speaker 2>e made, you know, cleaning up summer pipes, we'll go with.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an anal scene which I had only filmed

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of times before, so it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was definitely a big scene for me to do

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<v Speaker 2>and it actually ended up being a top betner ad

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<v Speaker 2>on the Hub.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that one definitely changed, like also how I

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<v Speaker 2>performed as well?

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<v Speaker 1>How did it change how you performed?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was actually able to be with like even

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<v Speaker 2>more professional performers who you know, like they they filmed

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<v Speaker 2>differently as opposed to at that time it was a

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<v Speaker 2>little amateur me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Again, if it's too much to delve, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to explain it. But how is it different? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it just having more people on set, professional equipment or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it them doing like sticking to a schedule versus

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<v Speaker 1>like collaborations you would do, or maybe even a thing

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<v Speaker 1>you're establishing yourself. How does it separate from that? It

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<v Speaker 1>just everything is in the next level, honestly. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely a big boost up. They don't have like

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<v Speaker 1>a specific schedule, but they'll give you a call time

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<v Speaker 1>and usually at that time you get in the makeup chair,

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<v Speaker 1>you get your hair and your makeup done, and that

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<v Speaker 1>they give you the script. Sometimes you'll get the script

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<v Speaker 1>before or sometimes you'll just get it while you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>The makeup chair. You get to read through it, you

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what you're about to do, pick your outfits

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Then we get to the pretty girls. We

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<v Speaker 2>do that strip teas and everything, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the times there is a different photographer and a videographer

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<v Speaker 2>just because they want to make sure that their crap

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<v Speaker 2>is the best and they know what they're best at.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll have a photographer that will even give us

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<v Speaker 2>tips and tricks on how to pose, and that will

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<v Speaker 2>that'll keep helping us on with our you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>our future scenes, and we get some time to interact

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<v Speaker 2>with our coach ours kind of learned their likes and

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<v Speaker 2>dislikes and stuff like that, and we get to make

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big differences is also the kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>questions that they ask you on set, and sometimes they

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<v Speaker 2>will also have an assistant that's there just to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you know that you're a safe on set,

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<v Speaker 2>that you can call it at any time, like you

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<v Speaker 2>can pull them to the side, and you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to say things to anyone else, but you can just

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<v Speaker 2>leave if you're feeling unsafe. And though that's never happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it's great having those extra steps.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have pictured that. That's again, I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this a long time now, and it's just that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>even more professional than the professionalism I knew that the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger sites already had what was in your opinion? Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever shot a scene that was so intense you

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<v Speaker 1>almost considered, well, not that it was bad or negative,

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<v Speaker 1>just that it was intent.

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<v Speaker 2>This late not really no, because one of my I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of set my boundaries for work kind of lower

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<v Speaker 2>than my personal boundaries because I don't really want to

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<v Speaker 2>get myself Obviously, we all have to be vulnerable to

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<v Speaker 2>a certain extent, but I only want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>certain level of vulnerable on camera. Okay, all right, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't do anything that's like two mentally difficult for me. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't do any kind of degradation, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like face lapping stuff like that. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>my experiences tend to actually work well with my praise chink,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's probably be a good girl and like stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so even if we're doing dirty things, I

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<v Speaker 2>still get that.

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<v Speaker 1>Praise, how you know, all right, I'll just be totally

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<v Speaker 1>straight and honest with you. I was like, I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to walk the line with this one

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<v Speaker 1>because Sarah Lacey is obviously gorgeous, but I'm nervous she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be tough at shit and kind of like like

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<v Speaker 1>if I ask a dumb question, she'll be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. You're a total sweetheart. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like, I don't know, don't piss her off?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, is that just your personality naturally? And

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<v Speaker 1>is there a switch like if someone really pisses you

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<v Speaker 1>off or you're going off?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, there is definitely a switch. Is very few people

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<v Speaker 2>who have actually seen it. But usually my switch either

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<v Speaker 2>comes due to a safety issue or a disrespect issue

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<v Speaker 2>because I am very happy and bubbly and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you say the wrong thing about either my friends

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<v Speaker 2>or myself. Woman has to pertain to our actual physical

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<v Speaker 2>wellness or even just our mental health as well, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I will not let that stand. Yeah, I okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>for example, one time, there was a fan that was

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<v Speaker 2>getting just a little too like gravy, not with me,

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<v Speaker 2>but with a friend, and basically my friends and I

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<v Speaker 2>were all noticing it, and we started to cluster around

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<v Speaker 2>her and the the other person. The fan was still

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<v Speaker 2>like very very persistent, and so that switch just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of flipped when they kind of kept making comments and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, hell no, you were not.

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<v Speaker 3>About to do this, like like I will get you

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck out, like and so they heard me go

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<v Speaker 3>from bubbly to this like very serious face in a sense,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like my military face.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I beat like very firm and everything like

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to push me, and that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>scared everyone quiet. They all looked at me like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well it's like, yeah, no, we're not letting this happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's was that was that at a convention.

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<v Speaker 2>This was outside of an event, Okay, okay, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but basically that fan was trying to grab her and

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<v Speaker 2>physically like pull her away from our group.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kidnapping Bud.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, this is not happening on my watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny. I just had a conversation with another performer about conventions.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever do any of the convention? The only

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<v Speaker 1>one I go to I live in Jersey, so I

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<v Speaker 1>go to Exotica, Jersey and that's just to like meet

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<v Speaker 1>the people I've interviewed. Do you go to them? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do them and do you like them?

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<v Speaker 2>I usually actually do about four to five conventions a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I. They start with ABM or X three and

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<v Speaker 2>then I always go to Exotica Chicago, Miami sometimes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Jersey for sure, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>DC sometimes okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course there's ex Is Miami which sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. I we all appreciated as fans of all the

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<v Speaker 1>performers work. We love it. What do performers get out

428
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<v Speaker 1>of doing that? Is it a great promotional tool for

429
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<v Speaker 1>you guys? Is it a networking tool? Like you get

430
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<v Speaker 1>to meet other people to collab with other producers? Okay?

431
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<v Speaker 1>Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I feel like the best thing about it is

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<v Speaker 2>the networking. And at the end of the day, we

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<v Speaker 2>do love meeting our fans, sure, you know, because at

435
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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, they're seeing this two D

436
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<v Speaker 2>version of us. They're only seeing what we what we

437
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<v Speaker 2>get to them, you know, but it gets to come

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<v Speaker 2>in to the expo for three days and they get

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<v Speaker 2>to see us just hanging around with friends, like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of goofing off and doing our thing. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Randomly find us like making.

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<v Speaker 1>Out or tworking, like just just to any listeners though,

444
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<v Speaker 1>show up respectful. That's all we have to do. Just

445
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<v Speaker 1>be respectful. You're gonna see some cool shit. Some girl

446
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<v Speaker 1>will probably be like, hey, put your hand on my

447
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<v Speaker 1>ass for this picture, but don't just do it without

448
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<v Speaker 1>like asking or being told you're allowed to. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what we want. No kidnappings, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I usually try to do a post before every expo

451
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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like there's always something, you know, like

452
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<v Speaker 2>I always have to tell them, like, hey, if you

453
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<v Speaker 2>see someone you like, go and introduce yourself first, tell

454
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<v Speaker 2>them your name. Okay. I have to kind of boil

455
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<v Speaker 2>it down to that because I'm like, sometimes people don't

456
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<v Speaker 2>even come up and say hi, like they'll just go

457
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<v Speaker 2>and take a picture. They'll walk up and try to

458
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<v Speaker 2>grab it, try to hug, and you're just like, WHOA,

459
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<v Speaker 2>so you hi first?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? Yeah I did that to Joanna angel. I didn't

461
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<v Speaker 1>touch her or anything, but I had a business card

462
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<v Speaker 1>and we were at Exotica, and it was when I

463
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<v Speaker 1>was first starting the show, and I wanted I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go up and go, you know, hi, Joanna, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really nice to meet you. My name is Matt. I

466
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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know if I could possibly get you in

467
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<v Speaker 1>the show. Here's my business card, I'd love to reach out.

468
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<v Speaker 1>Da da da. And as I walk up to her, like,

469
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<v Speaker 1>some thing happened in the background and some security went over,

470
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<v Speaker 1>and then she looks at me, and I just walk

471
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<v Speaker 1>up and I go, here's my card. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the fuck just happened. But I

473
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<v Speaker 1>didn't touch her, So that's a win. I guess that's see,

474
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.599
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, that's that's okay. Like, I'm sure she could

475
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<v Speaker 1>obviously tell that you were shy and flustered. Do we

476
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<v Speaker 1>completely understand that, because at least you are still respectful

477
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:53.519
<v Speaker 1>and everything. Sure? Yeah, yeah, shy and flustered, stupid and

478
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<v Speaker 1>moronic either way however you want to put it. I

479
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<v Speaker 1>was definitely one of those, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Come up and try to put your arm over his

481
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<v Speaker 2>shoulder to take a quick pick without even saying hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, no no. I don't touch anyone at

483
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<v Speaker 1>those except for the New Jersey last year. By the way, Exotica,

484
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you were getting your money's worth in New Jersey because

485
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 1>last year I couldn't fucking move. I couldn't everyone was

486
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>so tight, it was so packed yeah, Yeah, it was

487
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. Those are a lot of fun,

488
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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad performers get to come out and do

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<v Speaker 1>them if they want to. You know, you couldn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>me to go out there and shake people's hands. Nice

491
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<v Speaker 1>to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just too Oh gosh, I'm I'm the expo flu.

493
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<v Speaker 1>Oh what now?

494
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<v Speaker 2>What is that? That sounds dangerous? I call it the

495
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:50.799
<v Speaker 2>AVN flu? Really, But usually after any conventions, especially if

496
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<v Speaker 2>you're shaking a lot of hands, grabbing a lot of

497
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<v Speaker 2>business cards, and maybe even leaching out with people, you

498
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<v Speaker 2>know we do, there's so much contact, the different germs

499
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.839
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, like your immune systems just trying to fight

500
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it all, and a lot of people end up with

501
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>like a cold or flu kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside perception again, the ignorant outside perception. Wouldn't you be

503
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>blown away if I told you a porn set is

504
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 1>so much cleaner and less viruses than the convention center

505
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey. Well, in New Jersey. You throw that

506
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 1>in there and people start understanding why the viruses have

507
00:29:29.160 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>popped up? That makes sense? Okay?

508
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I usually have like buy a brand new bottle

509
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:37.079
<v Speaker 2>of sanitizer to bring to every expo.

510
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you gotten sick from it? Have you caught

511
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<v Speaker 1>the ABM flu expo flu?

512
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<v Speaker 2>I guess, like from the expo flu about two to

513
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.759
<v Speaker 2>three times a year. I feel like it's every other one,

514
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>you know. Especially it's like the bigger ones is when

515
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I tend to get sick more just because there's more people.

516
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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like I'm built up my immune system

517
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<v Speaker 2>over the gears, so lately only like twice a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, I have on one of the hottest girls in

519
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<v Speaker 1>the world, a performer who does amazing things. My next

520
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 1>question to you, is you ever take a whole bunch

521
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<v Speaker 1>of zinc before you do that, because maybe you won't

522
00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>get us sick. I'm like, I'm like, let's come up

523
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<v Speaker 1>with a mute. I had on Kubby Thompson, who's just

524
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:21.799
<v Speaker 1>an amazingly beautiful girl, and I asked her about what

525
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like selling her calendars and how much in advance

526
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>she has to order things. I'm an idiot, so yeah,

527
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 1>it's just the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the ways I try to combat that

529
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<v Speaker 2>is I do have my multi vitamins that I take

530
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<v Speaker 2>every day in general, and then when I'm traveling especially,

531
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<v Speaker 2>I'll bring p D Light packet instead of buying the

532
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>actual Plight bottles. You just buy the packets and just

533
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of fill them into a regular water bottle. Okay,

534
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>they hydrated, especially if you're like on the West Coast

535
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>where it's basically the desert, you have to hydrate more

536
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>if you're not used to that. And then I try

537
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.519
<v Speaker 2>to get the vitamins eas to just kind of give

538
00:31:01.559 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 2>me that extra boost. But I'll be honest, like I

539
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like I usually forget about the vitamin c's and

540
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.799
<v Speaker 2>I just stick to my vitamins and hydrate in.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, There you go, Sarah, let me talk

542
00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>about your content and what you like to make and

543
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 1>what you create. All right, So if I were to

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00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 1>head over to your of, which is obviously I am

545
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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Lace, please make sure Okay, Bare Minimum. I always

546
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.519
<v Speaker 1>say this, social media is free. You have to follow

547
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:29.559
<v Speaker 1>the folks that come on the show Bare Minimum. You

548
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 1>have no money, you're broke, you're homeless, but you have

549
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a phone and you listen to podcasts. Follow these folks.

550
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Next step sign up for their websites or their of

551
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>You have to you support them, you like their content.

552
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:42.359
<v Speaker 1>You enjoyed listening to Sarah talk today, go pay for

553
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. So if I go to your of and

554
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<v Speaker 1>I which is again I am Sarah lace links in

555
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the episode description, what kind of content am I seeing?

556
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Is it a weekly update, is it a daily picture?

557
00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Is it a monthly big video? Or are their pay

558
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>per views or they're not pay per views? Talk me through,

559
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>give me the experience of Sarah laces Away, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I think. So I will give you two things. I

561
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<v Speaker 2>will give you my attempted schedule, and then I'll give

562
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<v Speaker 2>you what actually happens, because you know, we all try

563
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 2>to balance this out. So I do try to post

564
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>every single day, and I have like kind of a

565
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>set list of things that I like to post on

566
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>each day, but on general I kind of post at

567
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 2>least three to four times a week, all right, especially

568
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I would say Sundays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Okay, So Wednesdays

569
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<v Speaker 2>there's usually at least a five minute video that goes

570
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<v Speaker 2>straight onto the feed, and then Fridays I like to

571
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<v Speaker 2>do fetish content lynn, so you'll get different types of

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<v Speaker 2>fetish teasers on Friday on my feet, and then I

573
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<v Speaker 2>will put the full version of it as a pay

574
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<v Speaker 2>per view, and then I kind of like to do

575
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<v Speaker 2>like a little five minute version of it for the feet,

576
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 2>just in case you want like an extended teaser.

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<v Speaker 1>So fetish Fridays, which is cute obviously, What are some

578
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<v Speaker 1>of your favorite fetishes? And then I'm gonna ask the

579
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 1>inverse of that afterwards, just so you're aware, But what

580
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>are some of your favorite fetishes? To create? Put together

581
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff that either you like creatively or it really turns

582
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 1>you on too, so fuck it, you might as well

583
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:33.599
<v Speaker 1>throw it on film.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the one of the big things that

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<v Speaker 2>I do, I honest, I'll be honest, this is more

586
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<v Speaker 2>because it's easy. Okay, A lot of foot fetish stuff,

587
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, that just kind of takes less energy to do.

588
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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like I'm able to film more of that,

589
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<v Speaker 2>and then I do like to do I have. I

590
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<v Speaker 2>feel like I have a lot of fans that have

591
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<v Speaker 2>I guess you can call it like an oil or

592
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.920
<v Speaker 2>lotion fetish, So I kind of have them worship either

593
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<v Speaker 2>my ass or my full body and I'll just pour

594
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<v Speaker 2>lotion on me and I kind of water it down

595
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<v Speaker 2>so it really drips down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, I'm signing up. I'm a fan of that too. Yep. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like the oil that works. It works for me.

598
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Shininess always works for me. What is the number one

599
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<v Speaker 1>request that when you see it in your inbox? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do custom videos?

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<v Speaker 2>First?

602
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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask that. Okay, what is the number one

603
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.599
<v Speaker 1>request that you go, well, absolutely fucking not and you

604
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<v Speaker 1>delete it? Is there any or are you willing to

605
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<v Speaker 1>take on any task?

606
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<v Speaker 2>I haven't gotten too many like crazy requests lately, but obviously,

607
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<v Speaker 2>like well obviously, but I tend to get like pe

608
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>requests and stuff like that which I will just not

609
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<v Speaker 2>accept and mind you, on the of terms of service,

610
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<v Speaker 2>they don't even accept that. So the guys are there

611
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<v Speaker 2>trying to ask me for this, and they're trying to

612
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<v Speaker 2>write in like little keywords and try to say it

613
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<v Speaker 2>without saying it. I'm like, look, just no.

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<v Speaker 1>Like no, thank you, hike. I've heard stuff in the

615
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<v Speaker 1>past that girls will get their accounts suspended or lost

616
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<v Speaker 1>or whatever on a fort something someone else is commenting,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm comment, Hey, Sarah, do you ever do piss

618
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<v Speaker 1>escort stuff? Like is that going to get you booted?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That can get me flagged.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fucked up. That's really fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So that's why sometimes like we may not want

622
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<v Speaker 2>to do it because we're like, okay, you may just

623
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<v Speaker 2>not know. But that's why sometimes we will flag them

624
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<v Speaker 2>just so it shows like, oh, we're not accepting that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're going to flag them so the system

626
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't flag us for accepting it by default.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't lose your livelihood over someone else's request,

628
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<v Speaker 1>you know, or you shouldn't like they should be able to.

629
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<v Speaker 1>It's really ridiculous that a tech company in twenty twenty

630
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<v Speaker 1>five can't look at it and be like, oh, her

631
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 1>response was to block him. She clearly wants to do

632
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 1>this against our turn. What are you.

633
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Talking about exactly? So that's why we try to either

634
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.440
<v Speaker 2>report or block. We're like okay, Like usually we'll give

635
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.239
<v Speaker 2>them a warning and I have this like screenshot that

636
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 2>I'll just send to them, like here, this is where

637
00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>it says that it's against the terms of service. It's

638
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>not because of me, but also because I don't want

639
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>to do it, you know.

640
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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Thanks, So let me ask has anyone been and

641
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe this actually surprised me too in these interviews, it's

642
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>not as common as I would have thought. Did you

643
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>have any mentors in this industry? Anyone who kind of

644
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 1>showed you the ropes, anyone who walked it through it,

645
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>or did you learn it all yourself.

646
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I will say that I may not necessarily have mentors,

647
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like all of my peers kind of

648
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.239
<v Speaker 2>mentor me in a sense because we go to these

649
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:10.079
<v Speaker 2>any of these events and we'll sit there will actually

650
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>like well, either chit chat or we'll talk about work

651
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 2>and like exchange numbers and start asking each other questions like, hey,

652
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>how did you do this? Or I'm having trouble with this?

653
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.079
<v Speaker 2>How did you respond to that? Or how do you

654
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.639
<v Speaker 2>say no to this kind of question? Things like that.

655
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>We all kind of just ask each other and kind

656
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:33.559
<v Speaker 2>of build each other up that way.

657
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So in terms of shooting big scenes,

658
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:43.199
<v Speaker 1>like mainstream stuff, and is there anything you want to

659
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>dive your teeth teeth I said teeth teeth into in

660
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>terms of like a type or a fed or anything

661
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.320
<v Speaker 1>like that. Is there anything you don't feel like you've

662
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 1>gotten your fill of yet? And it could be something

663
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 1>as basic as you want to do more talking parts,

664
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to do more I don't know, you can

665
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>go the other way with it and go gang bangs.

666
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it is is there anything where you're like, I

667
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 1>want to do more of this. I wish I would

668
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>get more calls for this type of scene.

669
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I love storylines, I love playing scenarios, being

670
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 2>another character and kind of just role playing that the

671
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>entire way. So I would say that that is kind

672
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of what I like to keep doing. I kind of

673
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>describe myself as that girl next door. So sometimes when

674
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>they throw me into these role play scenarios and I

675
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 2>have to be someone completely opposite, it's actually really really

676
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>fun because I'm like, oh, okay, there is being a

677
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 2>mean girl today.

678
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Are there any trends or common things that you want

679
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.039
<v Speaker 1>to go away in the industry, meaning you're like, I

680
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.519
<v Speaker 1>don't do that type of thing normally. I'm not interested.

681
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.960
<v Speaker 1>It's very popular right now. I don't want that.

682
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I'll be honest. I feel like everyone

683
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 2>is fulfilling like a different niche that the fans are

684
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:13.760
<v Speaker 2>looking for. I will say probably the only thing that

685
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't really like so much is the weirder viral content,

686
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, the ones where they kind of overdo it

687
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.639
<v Speaker 2>just for the views, and you're like, you don't.

688
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 1>Have to go that far, Like what, what do you

689
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 1>mean by that, are we talking about like the big

690
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:35.039
<v Speaker 1>of show type things that people have been doing over

691
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years.

692
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Like the girl who fucked like a thousand guys what

693
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, and then wanted to do like some

694
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 2>box thing. Essentially, she wanted to be in a box

695
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.199
<v Speaker 2>or in a cage and have I think she said,

696
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:56.840
<v Speaker 2>two thousand men or whatever have their way with her

697
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 2>while she's like blindfolded, and like, I don't know. Stuff

698
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>like that is like, okay, first of all, that is

699
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.079
<v Speaker 2>a safety risk at this point, like you're not even

700
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>thinking about your own well being for this.

701
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Like and you might step out from that and say, well,

702
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it's her choice letter do whatever, but it creates an

703
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 1>impression of your industry where now you are. It's almost

704
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>like if a baseball player, a big famous baseball player,

705
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 1>hugged every person that came up to him. Oh my god,

706
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll hug everyone. That's kind of my thing. And then

707
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm a different baseball player and someone comes up to

708
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:33.599
<v Speaker 1>me and goes give me hugs, and I go, I

709
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 1>don't fucking know you. I don't know you, man. So

710
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.079
<v Speaker 1>it kind of creates an environment where it's like we're

711
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>going back to a early two thousands kind of no

712
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.000
<v Speaker 1>holds barred type of thing. Now I did grow up

713
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>in that era. I did like that type of stuff

714
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>at the time, but now that I'm a little bit older,

715
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I see the gimmick of things and go, oh, this

716
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 1>is kind of probably destructive.

717
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah great because at the end of the day, but

718
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 2>people tend to or want you free. You get is

719
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 2>that most of these scenes are staged.

720
00:41:03.960 --> 00:41:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, like it's wrestling.

721
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 2>He has safe words, we have like extra people on

722
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 2>set and everything like stuff like that, And I feel

723
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:19.320
<v Speaker 2>like she's disregarding that it and we are very very

724
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 2>big honest safety and testing as well and consent like

725
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Big three.

726
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Is that the it did? I just come up with

727
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the analogy. Porn's a lot like wrestling, where guys get

728
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>slapped in wrestling and it doesn't not hurt, like if

729
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you're getting fucked, like you're gonna feel it. You're getting

730
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 1>funcked today, But it was all pre planned beforehand. At

731
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the end of it, even if this guy was like

732
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>dominating you whatever, he'd be like, all right, good great

733
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>job today, Sarah, I'll see you later da. So it

734
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>is fun, but we also have to live in that world,

735
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't walk up to John Cena and punch him

736
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>in the chest like, nah, that guy might lay you

737
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the fuck out, so exactly. Yeah, it's still entertainment. Then

738
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 1>it's the best thing to say.

739
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Um, do people have believed the scenarios that I've played

740
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 2>in sure, like these cheating wife, cheating girlfriend, stuff like that.

741
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Like I've had people come up to me and be like, Wow,

742
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>how could you cheat on your boyfriend like that? This

743
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 2>this not a great man like And I was like, ooh,

744
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>first of all, that wasn't even my boyfriend, Like he

745
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:28.599
<v Speaker 2>was just an extra.

746
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Look, it's all about the fans, and we love the

747
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 1>fans and they're so great. Now, if we could please

748
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>stop sending my Twitter fucking private dms thinking I'm the girl,

749
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:44.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get three messages after this saying Hi Sarah,

750
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 1>I just want to go can you we love you fans?

751
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>We do. Can you fucking read?

752
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Though?

753
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe if you check that out, you see I'm not her?

754
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh uh, where does the career go from? Actually no,

755
00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:59.280
<v Speaker 1>let me end on that question. But let me ask

756
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you this, and this is this is not a question

757
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I should ask in any way whatsoever? Uh, and I'm going.

758
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 2>To I want to see more now.

759
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Well see, but it's odd. I don't even know if

760
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I can relate, and I want to because I've had

761
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.159
<v Speaker 1>these conversations before. But you're from Honduras, right, ye? Okay?

762
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Where you are? Your dead is your national what is it?

763
00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 1>What do you say? See? I don't know how to

764
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:24.119
<v Speaker 1>touch on race. I'm such a pale, white loser, Like

765
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.320
<v Speaker 1>what do I say? Like you're from Texas, you said,

766
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:29.199
<v Speaker 1>but your nationality is is hundering? Okay?

767
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>All right? All right, so my parents are from there?

768
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha? Okay? All right? Well then I have two questions. One,

769
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 1>how do you feel when the industry will mislabel people?

770
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Because I've seen you as Ebony porn star Sarah Lace

771
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 1>like fucking fifty times. Yeah, how do you feel about that?

772
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 2>It's honestly, it can be pretty funny, sure, Like honestly,

773
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.079
<v Speaker 2>for me, I kind of worry, like, does this mean

774
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 2>that I'm taking a job away from someone who's Ebony

775
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.119
<v Speaker 2>or is this just like post production where they're like,

776
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, well we need ten tags, let's start some

777
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 2>in there.

778
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

779
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:11.480
<v Speaker 2>So that I feel like that's kind of where my

780
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:17.000
<v Speaker 2>question usually lies. But I in a sense I kind

781
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 2>of am Afro Latina ye, so like I do have

782
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 2>a great grandpa that is black, Okay, so I will say,

783
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 2>like there is that connection regardless, I just feel like

784
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:35.519
<v Speaker 2>ebony really just means dark skin, and I'm nowhere close

785
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 2>to her, so like, I don't know, put me wherever you.

786
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Want to put coach. Last question I shouldn't ask, and

787
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.159
<v Speaker 1>then we're going to wrap this one up. But what

788
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>is the biggest change that you think needs to happen

789
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 1>to accommodate women of color in the industry? Is there

790
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>anything I spoke to Lily Starfire, who's a total sweetheart.

791
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.079
<v Speaker 1>She had one I had no idea. She goes, I

792
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>wish makeup artists knew how to work on black girls,

793
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, makes total sense. You don't want

794
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to look like a clown going out there. I get it.

795
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Is that? Would you agree? Or is there anything else?

796
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:11.320
<v Speaker 2>You absolutely actually like? That is actually what I was

797
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:15.199
<v Speaker 2>going to say as well, because I've been on set

798
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>where they did not have my color, but I usually have,

799
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Like I usually will bring my own makeup bag one

800
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:26.159
<v Speaker 2>because prior military always prepared. Even if you don't need it,

801
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:29.920
<v Speaker 2>it's better to have it, but like I always bring everything,

802
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 2>especially my foundation, because there's been times where they've kind

803
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:38.000
<v Speaker 2>of switched things up on me. One time they were like,

804
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.960
<v Speaker 2>oh uh, the makeup art is canceled at the last minute.

805
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Can you do your makeup? So luckily I had it

806
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.800
<v Speaker 2>with me. Sure, And then other times they just will

807
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:54.320
<v Speaker 2>not have my like my foundation. Either they don't carry

808
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the dark shades or they just don't carry as many

809
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 2>shades to be able to comedy for people.

810
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, sometimes we'll.

811
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Have like less than twenty foundations and you're just like, okay,

812
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 2>you have that many. You need to have a variety

813
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:12.679
<v Speaker 2>and not just all of the lighter shades.

814
00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:15.760
<v Speaker 1>This is a real ignorant question, but is there like

815
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a woman in the industry who's known as like the

816
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.760
<v Speaker 1>one who can get a darker complexion? Right, Not that

817
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you have to call her out, but is there someone like, oh,

818
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>bring Jane in. Jane will really be able to nail

819
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.320
<v Speaker 1>this or now I will.

820
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Say there's not one specific one, but I can give

821
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:40.119
<v Speaker 2>you my favorite one from each big city. So for

822
00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 2>La we have Connie. I feel like everyone knows Connie,

823
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 2>and then in Vegas we have Ellie, and then in Miami,

824
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:53.280
<v Speaker 2>we have.

825
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Natalie shout out, ladies, you're doing a great job, especially

826
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 1>with darker complexions, and we appreciate it very much. So, uh, Sarah,

827
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 1>where's the career go from here? Are you going to

828
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.440
<v Speaker 1>do this two more years and decide you don't want

829
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.119
<v Speaker 1>to do it anymore? Are you going to make ten

830
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 1>million dollars and tap out? Are we going to be

831
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:15.119
<v Speaker 1>doing guilt porn fifty years from now? Like? What is?

832
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

833
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I interviewed Dede White the other day,

834
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Saekah Black, Yo, I'm not going to live as long

835
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>as she is doing gang bangs like she's seventy one?

836
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Where do you see yourself in this career? Where is

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<v Speaker 1>the end? If there is an end?

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<v Speaker 2>So in my head, I have a very big evolution

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<v Speaker 2>process to go. So currently I am a performer and

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to be a bit more of a producer.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of do produce my own scenes at the moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to actually be on a set. And

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<v Speaker 2>on top of that, I actually have a very big

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<v Speaker 2>dream of writing romance novels.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, like my true dream is full like by I

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<v Speaker 2>have seven hundred page romance novels, but I think I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of want to start with short one hundred to

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred page like smut and turn that into scenes

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<v Speaker 2>splash movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I would even pivot further if you

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<v Speaker 1>feel that you can't make the scenes in the movies

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<v Speaker 1>and the quality you would want. I wonder if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast where you could do chapters and you could

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<v Speaker 1>really highly produce it and almost like an audio play

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<v Speaker 1>type of thing, because because no offense, but most likely

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<v Speaker 1>your target is going to be women there, right, Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because guys can't read essentially, yeah, but your target is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be women there, right. So I think about

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<v Speaker 1>who really loves ASMR and who really loves the TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>sounds and this and that, and if you could maybe

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<v Speaker 1>bring you got a winner there? Maybe you got a winner.

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<v Speaker 2>I can do that because one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>I like to do is bring entertainment to everyone. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, men, women, non binary like and especially couples.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I want I want someone to be able to read

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<v Speaker 2>my book or watch my porn and be like, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>look at this. Can we recreate this? Like stuff like that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. No, no, I was smiling because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the clip I think for the week. It was so

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<v Speaker 1>it was so good. Uh, Sarah Lace, my guest for

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<v Speaker 1>the evening. You know exactly where you can find her.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Sarah Lace links to everything, including the social media,

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<v Speaker 1>the website, and the of or in the episode description, Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on with me tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for having me. I enjoyed going deeper.
