1 00:00:23,839 --> 00:00:27,679 Speaker 1: Sarah Lace, adult film star, content creator, co host of 2 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:31,079 the Burbank Misfits podcast, and my guest for the evening. 3 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,960 You know exactly where you can find her at I 4 00:00:34,039 --> 00:00:37,039 Am Sarah Lace. Links to all of her social media 5 00:00:37,079 --> 00:00:40,159 and her website are in the episode description below. Please 6 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,479 make sure you support the creators that come on the show, 7 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,200 otherwise they stop coming on the show. Sarah, it's a 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,600 pleasure to have you on this evening. 9 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:51,399 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. Matt. Honestly, it 10 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,759 has been a while since I have been a guest 11 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:59,119 on a podcast. You know, usually I'm the one interviewing, 12 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,000 But I are you excited for this? 13 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: Number one complaint on my channel is, Matt, you asked 14 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,760 a good question and then you followed it up with 15 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,280 six more right next to each other, and she couldn't 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,040 answer it. So it's good to have someone on who's 17 00:01:13,079 --> 00:01:15,519 a talker, who I can just ask a question. Just 18 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,560 shut up, Matt, shut the fuck, don't say anything. Go 19 00:01:17,799 --> 00:01:21,040 let her talk, Sarah. Let me start with the super 20 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,319 basic question. Okay, you're living in a vanilla life. At 21 00:01:25,359 --> 00:01:28,760 some point, normal boring you decide you need a change. 22 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:33,079 How did you initially get into the adult entertainment industry 23 00:01:33,079 --> 00:01:36,439 and what field was it? Was it camming, stripping? Did 24 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:38,799 you immediately go to start shooting for the big guys? 25 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:41,920 Like where did you cross, not in a negative way, 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,040 cross that line from the standard world into the industry. 27 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Funny enough, this actually is going to turn into a 28 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:54,760 long story. Okay, the job I had before this, I 29 00:01:54,879 --> 00:01:59,280 was actually in the military. While I was in I 30 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:05,359 was only doing photo shoots, usually bikini stuff some implied dude, 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,120 but during that time it was never fully nude. But 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,280 at some point my photos started going around and obviously 33 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,319 people were enjoying it, but obviously that's not what they 34 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:22,520 wanted for someone in the military. So we ended up 35 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,759 parting ways and I kind of was like, all right, well, 36 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,199 in a sense, I'm free, so let's do this. And 37 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:34,199 I had a few friends who were models as well, 38 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,000 and they, you know, they filmed some fetish stuff, some 39 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,759 amateur scenes, and they kind of helped me get into 40 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,520 that side of the industry. So I evolved from regular 41 00:02:48,599 --> 00:02:53,199 modeling to nude and then I actually started my very 42 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:57,599 first scene. My friend I was supposed to go with 43 00:02:57,719 --> 00:03:00,919 her kind of just like as an escort because she 44 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,960 was supposed to do like a bondage scene, some kind 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,159 of some light BDSM floggy and stuff like that. But 46 00:03:10,479 --> 00:03:14,960 she had bruises from a previous BDSM scene that she 47 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:20,199 did a couple of days ago. But I was unbruised. 48 00:03:20,599 --> 00:03:24,280 I didn't do anything like that, and so they didn't 49 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,400 want to call the scene then and there, and they 50 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:29,319 kind of just looked at me and were like, Hey, 51 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:33,680 the opportunity is here. Would you like to film some 52 00:03:33,719 --> 00:03:38,280 fetish stuff? And at that point it was non penetration, 53 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:42,840 but it was still like just like a little teas 54 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,759 or an appetizer to what the industry was. And I 55 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:50,319 truly truly enjoyed myself. And so from there I was 56 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,280 just like, you know what, let's do this, you know, 57 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,199 like maybe I'll stirt off with some solos. And then 58 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,400 I hopped onto like amateur scenes and stuff like that 59 00:04:00,479 --> 00:04:03,240 and really just evolved to who I am now. 60 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: So let me ask, this is not something I knew. 61 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:09,159 I've done so many of these interviews I've talked to, 62 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:13,000 like some of the queens of like BDSM and this 63 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,920 and that. You can't have And I guess it does 64 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:20,040 make sense. The girl you came along with you can't 65 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,519 have bruises going into that scene. Is that do you 66 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,439 think that's part of like the allure of the porn? 67 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:29,319 Like you have this quote unquote clean like no marks 68 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:31,800 or anything girl, and then you're marking her during the scene. 69 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:34,319 Or was it not like a marking scene? 70 00:04:35,399 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: So that scene wasn't necessarily a marking scene, but for them, 71 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:44,480 they were thinking more about the actual the health and 72 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:49,759 wellness of the actress. Oh yeah, like you're going to 73 00:04:49,879 --> 00:04:53,040 have to be tied up for three more hours and 74 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:56,560 you already have bruises, which means that you know, your 75 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,759 blood is quatty and there's stuff going on in you 76 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,639 bodies trying to heal already. We can't be damaging your 77 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,800 body even more during this healing process. 78 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,959 Speaker 1: That's so crazy that my first thought was, what's going 79 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,920 to fuck up production? Now, let's move on to the 80 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,439 next girl. I am not a monster, but I immediately 81 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,839 was in that business mindset. I get it. Being in 82 00:05:19,879 --> 00:05:21,480 that mindset, you're like, hey, we got to get the 83 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:24,120 shit done. You know today. I want to bring that 84 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:26,079 up later because I want to talk about doing your 85 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:28,120 own content and what it was like, you know, to 86 00:05:28,199 --> 00:05:30,800 switch over or to try and step into that world. 87 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:35,399 But so let me ask this. This question's on here 88 00:05:35,439 --> 00:05:38,199 and you kind of gave the job backstory, so I 89 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,759 don't know. But my question is, did you have any 90 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,639 jobs before you got into the industry and did you 91 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,319 take any of those skills and translate them to the 92 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,360 adult world. Now you were in the military, what did 93 00:05:51,399 --> 00:05:54,319 we get? Did we get like organization? Like are you 94 00:05:54,439 --> 00:05:56,560 able to you talk? See? This is what I do? 95 00:05:56,959 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yes, I feel like I can definitely be 96 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,639 hyper organized. I do think that sometimes that can be 97 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,079 a fault because I will make so many lists and 98 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,800 keep going and be like, Okay, for one day, I 99 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,959 eat this list. Other days stuff like that. But one 100 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:17,360 thing about me is I always try to do my 101 00:06:17,519 --> 00:06:21,959 research the best in my ability. So for example, we 102 00:06:22,079 --> 00:06:25,800 had this podcast, I actually have it on my schedule 103 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:31,120 where our podcast is scheduled fifteen minutes earlier. Okay, all right, 104 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,160 so I always try to be fifteen minutes early two things, 105 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:39,720 or for example, for this I use those ten to 106 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:43,360 fifteen minutes in order to set up my equipment and stuff. 107 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:49,560 So it's the military definitely has helped me with scheduling, organization, structure. 108 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,319 Speaker 1: Insurance chew oh endurance is what that is interesting now. 109 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,160 I just put this theory in my head and I've 110 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,720 never thought of this before, but I always I'm like, well, 111 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,079 let me try and come up with something unique for porn. 112 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,439 And my last idea wasn't great. It was like Airbnb porn. 113 00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:10,120 It was like a lot of stationary cameras kind of 114 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,600 around the house and you play up a scenario. And 115 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:14,879 then another girl was like, they do that shit already 116 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:17,240 and I was like, oh, all right, that's dumb. So 117 00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:21,560 what about porn star boot Camp? Have they done that yet? 118 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,839 Or if you grab like girls who want to start 119 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,279 only fans and we get them like a little bit 120 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:28,480 more in shape, we get the endurance up. Nothing wrong 121 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:30,480 with them, and there's all kinds of body types. I 122 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:32,600 don't want to defend myself every time. I love everyone. 123 00:07:32,639 --> 00:07:35,399 Everyone's good. But we're telling these girls up a little 124 00:07:35,439 --> 00:07:37,879 bit more. We teach them about structure, about waking up 125 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,160 early quick, get on chatterbait quick, d you know like 126 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,839 we do that. Is there anything like that? And can 127 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:45,199 we turn this into content? 128 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't think that we have that just yet. 129 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:53,959 I know that there are some kind of like reality 130 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,959 style shows where they have people kind of like fake 131 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,759 dating can get together or whatever. But I don't think 132 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,360 we've done any kind of corn start boot camp. But 133 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,240 what you were saying about endurance, though, is there's more 134 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:14,439 than just physical endurance. There's mental endurance as well. So 135 00:08:14,959 --> 00:08:18,240 this boot camp would definitely be for all sizes if 136 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,399 we do decide to do that. 137 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I wouldn't Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And 138 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,519 all right now, if this is too personal, please would 139 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,720 tell me to dial back because I've heard this before. 140 00:08:29,279 --> 00:08:33,279 Are you? And again, I'm not going to delve deeper. 141 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,960 I just want to make a greater point. Are you 142 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:40,120 what they refer to as a legacy military brad or 143 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,399 were you the first one in the military. I only 144 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,639 asked that because you have a ton of performers in 145 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,039 this industry. Anna Fox is who I think of who 146 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,279 is a military brat. I believe Alex Falks got out 147 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,440 of the military. There's been a few that I've actually 148 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,279 like talked to. Is there something in that? 149 00:08:59,480 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: Like? 150 00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: First off, first question, did you grow up like a 151 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,600 military bret moving around at all? 152 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,399 Speaker 2: Or No? I actually was not. I'm actually first generation citizens, 153 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,639 So okay, in a sense, my generation is the first 154 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,919 ones to kind of make something of themselves within the US. 155 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: That's great, and that's I mean, that is the American dream, 156 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,320 you know. Literally, however, whatever you can do to make 157 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,919 your way through the world, like you know, whoever's going 158 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,279 to judge you isn't paying your fucking bills, so fuck 159 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,559 almost right, Okay, So then I wonder what it is 160 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,480 I need to do a deeper dive into that. You'll 161 00:09:36,519 --> 00:09:39,080 be in my group, my test group of people who 162 00:09:39,159 --> 00:09:42,799 I'm like, okay, former military, what caused you to decide 163 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:45,240 to do this? Blah blah blah? All right, makes sense? Good. 164 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,879 Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about it, military people, you're 165 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,360 running all that, you're dealing with things that are a 166 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,039 high energy, high adrenaline. Yeah, and if you think about 167 00:09:56,039 --> 00:10:01,399 the fight and flight responses, what happens after that is 168 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,759 the want to reproduce. Actually, it's just that human instinct. 169 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,759 So in a sense, like after the adrenaline's gone down 170 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:12,039 from the day, you kind of just want to fuck. 171 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,639 Speaker 1: Smartest breakdown I've heard of that, Yeah, that makes total 172 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:18,960 sense to me. I bet the horniest dudes in the 173 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,200 world are like under sea welders. A guy who's just 174 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,679 in an intense situation and he comes up and he's like, 175 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,559 I got to throw it in something. Please right now? Uh, 176 00:10:31,159 --> 00:10:33,039 let me ask this. And again, I don't like to 177 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,320 delve too deeply, even though my show it's called Going Deeper. 178 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,240 But what type of girl were you growing up? Were 179 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,480 you like a shy good girl or like could people 180 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,639 kind of telescope this might be a career path for you, Like, 181 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:49,600 oh god, there's that Sarah Lad's girl again. 182 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,639 Speaker 2: Funny enough, I was actually that shy, nerdy girl kind 183 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:01,159 of like a do gooder. I mean, I still skirted 184 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,639 around the rules to an extent, like I was doing 185 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,600 other people's homework for them, like I was getting paid 186 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,600 good in that side hustle. But at the end of 187 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:15,000 the day, I didn't just let people freely cheat. I 188 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:17,320 still try to also make sure that they knew what 189 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:20,720 they were learning or like whatever I'm supposed to. Like, 190 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:23,600 if I'm supposed to write an essay for them, I'm 191 00:11:23,639 --> 00:11:26,720 still gonna kind of like tutor them on what that 192 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:30,360 essay is about. They understand it, and then I'm just 193 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:32,200 gonna write the essay for them and they'll give me 194 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,559 like twenty bucks. 195 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: Nothing blows me away more than interviewing performers who it's 196 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,480 just so funny because you have the outside perception of performers. Right, 197 00:11:45,519 --> 00:11:49,480 here's my ignorant, thumb caveman perception. Sarah Lace wakes up, 198 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,840 she goes to set, she does her hair, she fucks 199 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,879 a guy, she comes home, and then she gets paid 200 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:56,639 millions of dollars and you go, well, that does sound 201 00:11:56,639 --> 00:11:59,120 like a pretty good job. But when you actually look 202 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,480 at this, what's so funny to me is I asked 203 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:06,120 that question because I want to hear if like, you know, oh, 204 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:08,960 you had a lot of boyfriends, or oh you couldn't 205 00:12:09,039 --> 00:12:12,679 keep a relation. Your answer was, oh, I would ethically 206 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:15,360 do people's homework for them as long as I can 207 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:19,320 explain it to them as well. It's like, oh, all right, 208 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,879 so how do we connect the dots to here? I 209 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:25,840 don't know. 210 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: I think it was I was in that shy bubble 211 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,200 for so long that I was like, you know what, 212 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,799 let me just have my moment. Like, because I'm usually 213 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,840 from Texas, and when I started, I was in California, 214 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,799 so I was like, this is a whole new world. Sure, 215 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,320 let's explore it. I'm an adult, I'm responsible, I know 216 00:12:47,399 --> 00:12:51,879 what I'm doing, and even my friend who took me 217 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:55,120 to that first bud SM scene. She taught me all 218 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:58,200 about like the rules for Kenson everything. So I was like, 219 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:04,399 you know, what's a safe practice, Like there's paperwork and 220 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:08,360 testing and so much involved. Let's do it, you know, 221 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,200 let me let me try this in a safe manner 222 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:11,919 for sure. 223 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so you just described what sounds like a 224 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:18,240 good set. Again, my idea was immediately like, oh, I'll 225 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,559 get a new girl in here. I don't want to 226 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,879 see those No, no, no, it was for her safety. That's 227 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:24,039 a good set. Let me ask you, and I'm not 228 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:26,600 going to ask you to name anyone specifically, but I 229 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,279 assume you have also worked on bad sets in your career. Yes, yeah, okay. 230 00:13:32,279 --> 00:13:36,120 What separates a good set from a bad set mostly 231 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,720 like the most glaring thing. 232 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes the simplest thing will be if they do not 233 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:50,480 have a videographer wow, Or if their paperwork just kind 234 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,720 of looks a little off. 235 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, even if you have it. 236 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: Like signed paperwork before, sometimes you will look at it 237 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,320 and you'll be like, this looks like it's been photo 238 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:03,759 copied like a million different times. 239 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:07,879 Speaker 1: You know, copy of a copy of a copy. Yeah. Okay, 240 00:14:08,519 --> 00:14:13,200 so just I mean, saying this line here sounds worse 241 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,120 than it is, But creating the perception of professionalism is 242 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:20,279 what should be right. Come to you with fresh paperwork, 243 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,200 you know. The one complaint I heard from a girl 244 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,519 the last interview I did, she said she showed up 245 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:27,399 to a set and there was a dirty shower. She said, 246 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,840 bare minimum, just make the shower clean. Someone clean out 247 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,720 the shower because I'm going to want to wipe all 248 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,600 this off afterwards, and I don't want to get in 249 00:14:34,679 --> 00:14:39,200 some grimy, shitty, you know shower. Have the facilities nice enough, right? 250 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: That is true, That is definitely true. But there's certain 251 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,039 things like that that are out of their control. You know, 252 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,480 like sometimes they're given a location or the location they 253 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:55,159 originally planned ends up not working, so they find something 254 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 at the last minute, and you kind of just work 255 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,000 with what you have. So I feel like sometimes you 256 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,320 kind of like lower your expectations just so you're happy. 257 00:15:04,759 --> 00:15:09,200 But I feel like in general, there is something about like, 258 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,000 as long as the set is safe, I'm fine filming 259 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,639 whatever random role play we're about to do. 260 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,039 Speaker 1: You know, there was a there's some producer on a 261 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,720 podcast right now going like Emphtex Kinko's was closed, so 262 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:27,080 I couldn't make copies and I had to print out 263 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,159 an extra one and Sarah hated it. But you know, 264 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:35,360 it's okay, okay, all right, let's do a thing I 265 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,480 like to call look. 266 00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:39,679 Speaker 2: So my complaint for that though. 267 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, okay, all right. 268 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: Paper was like this, yes, and this was what I 269 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:45,960 worked with. 270 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:50,559 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so they need even like size it properly. 271 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm already half lying. So I was like, I 272 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,600 can barely read this. That was that was the complaint. 273 00:15:59,679 --> 00:16:03,200 It was say anything like too bad, But I was like, okay, 274 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:10,080 we're just working with this. True, that's right, Paperworkugh. 275 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: Sarah, I want to do a thing I call stat check. 276 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:14,240 Now here's the thing. These numbers are entirely wrong. It 277 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,960 is from the Internet Adult Film Database, which is kind 278 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,279 of like the Internet Movie Database, but for adult films. 279 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:22,080 Here's what they don't include. I don't know, like half 280 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,519 the scenes you've shot, like none of the of stuff, 281 00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:28,720 like whatever. I'm just using it as a metric as 282 00:16:28,919 --> 00:16:32,080 at this date and time, these were the numbers of 283 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,639 your career. And then a year from now when we 284 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:37,080 check in and you're drowning in av and Awards. I'll 285 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,840 be like, oh, Sarah, things really took off. Huh wasn't 286 00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:44,159 that wonderful? Sarah Lace. You have shot one hundred and 287 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,559 eleven scenes. You have worked with twenty nine women, You've 288 00:16:48,559 --> 00:16:53,200 worked with fifty two men, been nominated for three AV Awards. 289 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,480 I only stay AVN because all the others, I just 290 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,320 it's too much of balance. You are you are, I believe, 291 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,399 a nominee or a winner of an Urban X as well. 292 00:17:00,879 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: Nominee. 293 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: Okay, good enough, that's fair, just being recognized as good 294 00:17:04,559 --> 00:17:08,200 three noms, no AV and wins. Yet not yet, we're 295 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:15,039 saving it. Say there you go. Does anything stand out 296 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,920 to you? And maybe the answer is no. As your 297 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:23,240 defining scene to this point, is there anything that fans 298 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:25,960 most you know, commonly come up to you and be like, 299 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,640 your shot on this thing was fucking aught? Da da da. 300 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 2: I will say the one that probably changed the trajectory 301 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,839 of my career was actually the my bang Bro scene 302 00:17:42,279 --> 00:17:48,359 was my first like truly professional scene. I was not 303 00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:53,640 e made, you know, cleaning up summer pipes, we'll go with. 304 00:17:55,319 --> 00:17:58,599 It was an anal scene which I had only filmed 305 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,079 a couple of times before, so it was you know, 306 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,079 it was definitely a big scene for me to do 307 00:18:05,839 --> 00:18:09,039 and it actually ended up being a top betner ad 308 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:09,960 on the Hub. 309 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:10,839 Speaker 1: There you go. 310 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that one definitely changed, like also how I 311 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,240 performed as well? 312 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: How did it change how you performed? 313 00:18:19,759 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: Because I was actually able to be with like even 314 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:28,240 more professional performers who you know, like they they filmed 315 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,279 differently as opposed to at that time it was a 316 00:18:31,279 --> 00:18:32,240 little amateur me. 317 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,319 Speaker 1: Sure, Again, if it's too much to delve, you don't 318 00:18:37,319 --> 00:18:40,319 have to explain it. But how is it different? Is 319 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:44,839 it just having more people on set, professional equipment or whatever. 320 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,240 Is it them doing like sticking to a schedule versus 321 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:51,160 like collaborations you would do, or maybe even a thing 322 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,240 you're establishing yourself. How does it separate from that? It 323 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,559 just everything is in the next level, honestly. Yeah, it 324 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:03,640 is definitely a big boost up. They don't have like 325 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,880 a specific schedule, but they'll give you a call time 326 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,119 and usually at that time you get in the makeup chair, 327 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:12,880 you get your hair and your makeup done, and that 328 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,759 they give you the script. Sometimes you'll get the script 329 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:18,359 before or sometimes you'll just get it while you're in. 330 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:21,039 Speaker 2: The makeup chair. You get to read through it, you 331 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,920 figure out what you're about to do, pick your outfits 332 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,519 and stuff. Then we get to the pretty girls. We 333 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:32,119 do that strip teas and everything, and a lot of 334 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:37,640 the times there is a different photographer and a videographer 335 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,759 just because they want to make sure that their crap 336 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:43,319 is the best and they know what they're best at. 337 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:46,599 So we'll have a photographer that will even give us 338 00:19:47,279 --> 00:19:51,079 tips and tricks on how to pose, and that will 339 00:19:51,279 --> 00:19:54,400 that'll keep helping us on with our you know, with 340 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,200 our future scenes, and we get some time to interact 341 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,079 with our coach ours kind of learned their likes and 342 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,880 dislikes and stuff like that, and we get to make 343 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,200 the scene the best that we can. And I think 344 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,119 one of the big differences is also the kinds of 345 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,160 questions that they ask you on set, and sometimes they 346 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,359 will also have an assistant that's there just to make 347 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,440 sure that you know that you're a safe on set, 348 00:20:23,519 --> 00:20:26,519 that you can call it at any time, like you 349 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,640 can pull them to the side, and you don't have 350 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,920 to say things to anyone else, but you can just 351 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,920 leave if you're feeling unsafe. And though that's never happened 352 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,880 to me, it's great having those extra steps. 353 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have pictured that. That's again, I've been doing 354 00:20:42,519 --> 00:20:45,359 this a long time now, and it's just that sounds 355 00:20:45,839 --> 00:20:49,200 even more professional than the professionalism I knew that the 356 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:56,599 bigger sites already had what was in your opinion? Have 357 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,559 you ever shot a scene that was so intense you 358 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,279 almost considered, well, not that it was bad or negative, 359 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,480 just that it was intent. 360 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: This late not really no, because one of my I 361 00:21:13,599 --> 00:21:17,359 kind of set my boundaries for work kind of lower 362 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,920 than my personal boundaries because I don't really want to 363 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,799 get myself Obviously, we all have to be vulnerable to 364 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:27,920 a certain extent, but I only want to be a 365 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,839 certain level of vulnerable on camera. Okay, all right, I 366 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,400 don't do anything that's like two mentally difficult for me. Sure, 367 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:41,799 Like I don't do any kind of degradation, you know, 368 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,240 like face lapping stuff like that. So a lot of 369 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:50,480 my experiences tend to actually work well with my praise chink, 370 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,400 everyone's probably be a good girl and like stuff like that. 371 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,079 You know, so even if we're doing dirty things, I 372 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,400 still get that. 373 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:05,559 Speaker 1: Praise, how you know, all right, I'll just be totally 374 00:22:05,599 --> 00:22:08,480 straight and honest with you. I was like, I'm worried. 375 00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:10,839 I'm gonna have to walk the line with this one 376 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:15,119 because Sarah Lacey is obviously gorgeous, but I'm nervous she's 377 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,000 gonna be tough at shit and kind of like like 378 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,160 if I ask a dumb question, she'll be like, no, 379 00:22:20,519 --> 00:22:22,559 not at all. You're a total sweetheart. It seems like 380 00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:24,960 it seems like, I don't know, don't piss her off? 381 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:29,160 But you know, is that just your personality naturally? And 382 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,799 is there a switch like if someone really pisses you 383 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,759 off or you're going off? 384 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: Yes, there is definitely a switch. Is very few people 385 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:43,079 who have actually seen it. But usually my switch either 386 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,759 comes due to a safety issue or a disrespect issue 387 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:52,880 because I am very happy and bubbly and stuff like that. 388 00:22:53,319 --> 00:22:57,240 But you say the wrong thing about either my friends 389 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:02,079 or myself. Woman has to pertain to our actual physical 390 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,960 wellness or even just our mental health as well, Like 391 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:11,400 I will not let that stand. Yeah, I okay. So 392 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:16,519 for example, one time, there was a fan that was 393 00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:21,480 getting just a little too like gravy, not with me, 394 00:23:21,799 --> 00:23:27,240 but with a friend, and basically my friends and I 395 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:30,240 were all noticing it, and we started to cluster around 396 00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:35,200 her and the the other person. The fan was still 397 00:23:35,599 --> 00:23:40,160 like very very persistent, and so that switch just kind 398 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,279 of flipped when they kind of kept making comments and 399 00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:45,559 I was like, oh, hell no, you were not. 400 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,799 Speaker 3: About to do this, like like I will get you 401 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,279 the fuck out, like and so they heard me go 402 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:57,599 from bubbly to this like very serious face in a sense, 403 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,000 it's like my military face. 404 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: You know. I beat like very firm and everything like 405 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,920 you're not going to push me, and that kind of 406 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,799 scared everyone quiet. They all looked at me like, oh, okay, 407 00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:14,720 well it's like, yeah, no, we're not letting this happen. 408 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,319 Speaker 1: Like that's was that was that at a convention. 409 00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: This was outside of an event, Okay, okay, so yeah, 410 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,079 but basically that fan was trying to grab her and 411 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,720 physically like pull her away from our group. 412 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: That's kidnapping Bud. 413 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, this is not happening on my watch. 414 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: Funny. I just had a conversation with another performer about conventions. 415 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,119 Do you ever do any of the convention? The only 416 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,759 one I go to I live in Jersey, so I 417 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:49,400 go to Exotica, Jersey and that's just to like meet 418 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,799 the people I've interviewed. Do you go to them? Do 419 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:53,200 you do them and do you like them? 420 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: I usually actually do about four to five conventions a year. 421 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,599 Oh I. They start with ABM or X three and 422 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:10,640 then I always go to Exotica Chicago, Miami sometimes, and 423 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,680 then Jersey for sure, and then. 424 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: DC sometimes okay, all right. 425 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:18,039 Speaker 2: And then of course there's ex Is Miami which sometimes. 426 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:23,039 Speaker 1: Sure. I we all appreciated as fans of all the 427 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:26,359 performers work. We love it. What do performers get out 428 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,000 of doing that? Is it a great promotional tool for 429 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:31,359 you guys? Is it a networking tool? Like you get 430 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,640 to meet other people to collab with other producers? Okay? 431 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:35,440 Is that what it is? 432 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like the best thing about it is 433 00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:42,359 the networking. And at the end of the day, we 434 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,319 do love meeting our fans, sure, you know, because at 435 00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:49,000 the end of the day, they're seeing this two D 436 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,920 version of us. They're only seeing what we what we 437 00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:56,079 get to them, you know, but it gets to come 438 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,920 in to the expo for three days and they get 439 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:04,240 to see us just hanging around with friends, like kind 440 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:06,759 of goofing off and doing our thing. You know. 441 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:08,079 Speaker 1: Sure you will. 442 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: Randomly find us like making. 443 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,839 Speaker 1: Out or tworking, like just just to any listeners though, 444 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:17,519 show up respectful. That's all we have to do. Just 445 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:20,559 be respectful. You're gonna see some cool shit. Some girl 446 00:26:20,559 --> 00:26:22,319 will probably be like, hey, put your hand on my 447 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,759 ass for this picture, but don't just do it without 448 00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:28,240 like asking or being told you're allowed to. Okay, that's 449 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,200 not what we want. No kidnappings, right. 450 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: I usually try to do a post before every expo 451 00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:36,960 because I feel like there's always something, you know, like 452 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,319 I always have to tell them, like, hey, if you 453 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,640 see someone you like, go and introduce yourself first, tell 454 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,559 them your name. Okay. I have to kind of boil 455 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,279 it down to that because I'm like, sometimes people don't 456 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:56,400 even come up and say hi, like they'll just go 457 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,119 and take a picture. They'll walk up and try to 458 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,880 grab it, try to hug, and you're just like, WHOA, 459 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:03,599 so you hi first? 460 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: Sure? Yeah I did that to Joanna angel. I didn't 461 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,079 touch her or anything, but I had a business card 462 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,839 and we were at Exotica, and it was when I 463 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,039 was first starting the show, and I wanted I was 464 00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:16,119 gonna go up and go, you know, hi, Joanna, it's 465 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,720 really nice to meet you. My name is Matt. I 466 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,799 wanted to know if I could possibly get you in 467 00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:21,640 the show. Here's my business card, I'd love to reach out. 468 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,200 Da da da. And as I walk up to her, like, 469 00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:28,359 some thing happened in the background and some security went over, 470 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,880 and then she looks at me, and I just walk 471 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960 up and I go, here's my card. And I was like, 472 00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:34,400 I don't know what the fuck just happened. But I 473 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,359 didn't touch her, So that's a win. I guess that's see, 474 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,599 that's okay, that's that's okay. Like, I'm sure she could 475 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,799 obviously tell that you were shy and flustered. Do we 476 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,680 completely understand that, because at least you are still respectful 477 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,519 and everything. Sure? Yeah, yeah, shy and flustered, stupid and 478 00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:55,880 moronic either way however you want to put it. I 479 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,599 was definitely one of those, for sure. 480 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:02,079 Speaker 2: Come up and try to put your arm over his 481 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,599 shoulder to take a quick pick without even saying hi. 482 00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:10,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no no. I don't touch anyone at 483 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:14,440 those except for the New Jersey last year. By the way, Exotica, 484 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,680 you were getting your money's worth in New Jersey because 485 00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:20,279 last year I couldn't fucking move. I couldn't everyone was 486 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:24,880 so tight, it was so packed yeah, Yeah, it was 487 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,119 a lot of fun. Those are a lot of fun, 488 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,880 and I'm glad performers get to come out and do 489 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,079 them if they want to. You know, you couldn't pay 490 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,680 me to go out there and shake people's hands. Nice 491 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:35,079 to meet you. 492 00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:38,799 Speaker 2: I'm just too Oh gosh, I'm I'm the expo flu. 493 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh what now? 494 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: What is that? That sounds dangerous? I call it the 495 00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:50,799 AVN flu? Really, But usually after any conventions, especially if 496 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:54,599 you're shaking a lot of hands, grabbing a lot of 497 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,640 business cards, and maybe even leaching out with people, you 498 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,799 know we do, there's so much contact, the different germs 499 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:04,839 and stuff, like your immune systems just trying to fight 500 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,480 it all, and a lot of people end up with 501 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,640 like a cold or flu kind of thing. 502 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: Outside perception again, the ignorant outside perception. Wouldn't you be 503 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:19,720 blown away if I told you a porn set is 504 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,759 so much cleaner and less viruses than the convention center 505 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,839 in New Jersey. Well, in New Jersey. You throw that 506 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,079 in there and people start understanding why the viruses have 507 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,640 popped up? That makes sense? Okay? 508 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I usually have like buy a brand new bottle 509 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,079 of sanitizer to bring to every expo. 510 00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, have you gotten sick from it? Have you caught 511 00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:41,559 the ABM flu expo flu? 512 00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:45,279 Speaker 2: I guess, like from the expo flu about two to 513 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:49,759 three times a year. I feel like it's every other one, 514 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,920 you know. Especially it's like the bigger ones is when 515 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160 I tend to get sick more just because there's more people. 516 00:29:57,359 --> 00:29:59,720 But I feel like I'm built up my immune system 517 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,240 over the gears, so lately only like twice a year. 518 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,599 Speaker 1: Really, I have on one of the hottest girls in 519 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,960 the world, a performer who does amazing things. My next 520 00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:11,759 question to you, is you ever take a whole bunch 521 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:13,680 of zinc before you do that, because maybe you won't 522 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,920 get us sick. I'm like, I'm like, let's come up 523 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,319 with a mute. I had on Kubby Thompson, who's just 524 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,799 an amazingly beautiful girl, and I asked her about what 525 00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,480 it's like selling her calendars and how much in advance 526 00:30:24,519 --> 00:30:27,160 she has to order things. I'm an idiot, so yeah, 527 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,839 it's just the same. 528 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: So one of the ways I try to combat that 529 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:35,559 is I do have my multi vitamins that I take 530 00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:39,640 every day in general, and then when I'm traveling especially, 531 00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:42,960 I'll bring p D Light packet instead of buying the 532 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,720 actual Plight bottles. You just buy the packets and just 533 00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:48,279 kind of fill them into a regular water bottle. Okay, 534 00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:52,200 they hydrated, especially if you're like on the West Coast 535 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,000 where it's basically the desert, you have to hydrate more 536 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,240 if you're not used to that. And then I try 537 00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:01,519 to get the vitamins eas to just kind of give 538 00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,759 me that extra boost. But I'll be honest, like I 539 00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:07,440 feel like I usually forget about the vitamin c's and 540 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,799 I just stick to my vitamins and hydrate in. 541 00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: There you go, There you go, Sarah, let me talk 542 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,480 about your content and what you like to make and 543 00:31:16,519 --> 00:31:18,519 what you create. All right, So if I were to 544 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,119 head over to your of, which is obviously I am 545 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,839 Sarah Lace, please make sure Okay, Bare Minimum. I always 546 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,519 say this, social media is free. You have to follow 547 00:31:27,559 --> 00:31:29,559 the folks that come on the show Bare Minimum. You 548 00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:31,599 have no money, you're broke, you're homeless, but you have 549 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200 a phone and you listen to podcasts. Follow these folks. 550 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Next step sign up for their websites or their of 551 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,880 You have to you support them, you like their content. 552 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,359 You enjoyed listening to Sarah talk today, go pay for 553 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,519 that stuff. So if I go to your of and 554 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,640 I which is again I am Sarah lace links in 555 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,480 the episode description, what kind of content am I seeing? 556 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:54,160 Is it a weekly update, is it a daily picture? 557 00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:57,000 Is it a monthly big video? Or are their pay 558 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,480 per views or they're not pay per views? Talk me through, 559 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,880 give me the experience of Sarah laces Away, sure. 560 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: I think. So I will give you two things. I 561 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,880 will give you my attempted schedule, and then I'll give 562 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,839 you what actually happens, because you know, we all try 563 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,519 to balance this out. So I do try to post 564 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,960 every single day, and I have like kind of a 565 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,119 set list of things that I like to post on 566 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,880 each day, but on general I kind of post at 567 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,079 least three to four times a week, all right, especially 568 00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:42,559 I would say Sundays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Okay, So Wednesdays 569 00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:46,799 there's usually at least a five minute video that goes 570 00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:52,440 straight onto the feed, and then Fridays I like to 571 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:57,200 do fetish content lynn, so you'll get different types of 572 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,799 fetish teasers on Friday on my feet, and then I 573 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,920 will put the full version of it as a pay 574 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,480 per view, and then I kind of like to do 575 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,200 like a little five minute version of it for the feet, 576 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,079 just in case you want like an extended teaser. 577 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: So fetish Fridays, which is cute obviously, What are some 578 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,480 of your favorite fetishes? And then I'm gonna ask the 579 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,319 inverse of that afterwards, just so you're aware, But what 580 00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:27,960 are some of your favorite fetishes? To create? Put together 581 00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:31,200 stuff that either you like creatively or it really turns 582 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,839 you on too, so fuck it, you might as well 583 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,599 throw it on film. 584 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: So one of the one of the big things that 585 00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:41,599 I do, I honest, I'll be honest, this is more 586 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,559 because it's easy. Okay, A lot of foot fetish stuff, 587 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,880 you know, that just kind of takes less energy to do. 588 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,359 So I feel like I'm able to film more of that, 589 00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:57,880 and then I do like to do I have. I 590 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,680 feel like I have a lot of fans that have 591 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:02,240 I guess you can call it like an oil or 592 00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:06,920 lotion fetish, So I kind of have them worship either 593 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,199 my ass or my full body and I'll just pour 594 00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,000 lotion on me and I kind of water it down 595 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,719 so it really drips down. 596 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:20,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'm signing up. I'm a fan of that too. Yep. Yeah, 597 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,079 I like the oil that works. It works for me. 598 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,519 Shininess always works for me. What is the number one 599 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,440 request that when you see it in your inbox? Maybe? 600 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:32,679 Do you do custom videos? 601 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: First? 602 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask that. Okay, what is the number one 603 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,599 request that you go, well, absolutely fucking not and you 604 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:40,800 delete it? Is there any or are you willing to 605 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,039 take on any task? 606 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:49,079 Speaker 2: I haven't gotten too many like crazy requests lately, but obviously, 607 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,199 like well obviously, but I tend to get like pe 608 00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:55,760 requests and stuff like that which I will just not 609 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,599 accept and mind you, on the of terms of service, 610 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,880 they don't even accept that. So the guys are there 611 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,719 trying to ask me for this, and they're trying to 612 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,840 write in like little keywords and try to say it 613 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,639 without saying it. I'm like, look, just no. 614 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:19,079 Speaker 1: Like no, thank you, hike. I've heard stuff in the 615 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:22,480 past that girls will get their accounts suspended or lost 616 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,400 or whatever on a fort something someone else is commenting, 617 00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:29,519 so I'm comment, Hey, Sarah, do you ever do piss 618 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,079 escort stuff? Like is that going to get you booted? 619 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,159 Speaker 2: Yeah? That can get me flagged. 620 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,599 Speaker 1: That's fucked up. That's really fucked up. 621 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's why sometimes like we may not want 622 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,519 to do it because we're like, okay, you may just 623 00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:46,719 not know. But that's why sometimes we will flag them 624 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,519 just so it shows like, oh, we're not accepting that. 625 00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:53,679 You know, we're going to flag them so the system 626 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,039 doesn't flag us for accepting it by default. 627 00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: You know, you can't lose your livelihood over someone else's request, 628 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,719 you know, or you shouldn't like they should be able to. 629 00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:06,159 It's really ridiculous that a tech company in twenty twenty 630 00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:07,719 five can't look at it and be like, oh, her 631 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,119 response was to block him. She clearly wants to do 632 00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:12,519 this against our turn. What are you. 633 00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 2: Talking about exactly? So that's why we try to either 634 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,440 report or block. We're like okay, Like usually we'll give 635 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,239 them a warning and I have this like screenshot that 636 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,519 I'll just send to them, like here, this is where 637 00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,719 it says that it's against the terms of service. It's 638 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,480 not because of me, but also because I don't want 639 00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:33,000 to do it, you know. 640 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: Uh. Thanks, So let me ask has anyone been and 641 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,800 maybe this actually surprised me too in these interviews, it's 642 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,920 not as common as I would have thought. Did you 643 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,960 have any mentors in this industry? Anyone who kind of 644 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,760 showed you the ropes, anyone who walked it through it, 645 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,000 or did you learn it all yourself. 646 00:36:56,199 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: I will say that I may not necessarily have mentors, 647 00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:03,559 but I feel like all of my peers kind of 648 00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:07,239 mentor me in a sense because we go to these 649 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,079 any of these events and we'll sit there will actually 650 00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:13,239 like well, either chit chat or we'll talk about work 651 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,559 and like exchange numbers and start asking each other questions like, hey, 652 00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:22,000 how did you do this? Or I'm having trouble with this? 653 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:25,079 How did you respond to that? Or how do you 654 00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:28,639 say no to this kind of question? Things like that. 655 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,239 We all kind of just ask each other and kind 656 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,559 of build each other up that way. 657 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:39,599 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So in terms of shooting big scenes, 658 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,199 like mainstream stuff, and is there anything you want to 659 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:48,000 dive your teeth teeth I said teeth teeth into in 660 00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:50,960 terms of like a type or a fed or anything 661 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,320 like that. Is there anything you don't feel like you've 662 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,519 gotten your fill of yet? And it could be something 663 00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:58,519 as basic as you want to do more talking parts, 664 00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,480 you want to do more I don't know, you can 665 00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:02,239 go the other way with it and go gang bangs. 666 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,280 Whatever it is is there anything where you're like, I 667 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:07,639 want to do more of this. I wish I would 668 00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:09,719 get more calls for this type of scene. 669 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:16,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I love storylines, I love playing scenarios, being 670 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,280 another character and kind of just role playing that the 671 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,440 entire way. So I would say that that is kind 672 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,440 of what I like to keep doing. I kind of 673 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,480 describe myself as that girl next door. So sometimes when 674 00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:34,400 they throw me into these role play scenarios and I 675 00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:40,360 have to be someone completely opposite, it's actually really really 676 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,440 fun because I'm like, oh, okay, there is being a 677 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,119 mean girl today. 678 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: Are there any trends or common things that you want 679 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,039 to go away in the industry, meaning you're like, I 680 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,519 don't do that type of thing normally. I'm not interested. 681 00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:58,960 It's very popular right now. I don't want that. 682 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,519 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll be honest. I feel like everyone 683 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,519 is fulfilling like a different niche that the fans are 684 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:13,760 looking for. I will say probably the only thing that 685 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:19,480 I don't really like so much is the weirder viral content, 686 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,119 you know, the ones where they kind of overdo it 687 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,639 just for the views, and you're like, you don't. 688 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,559 Speaker 1: Have to go that far, Like what, what do you 689 00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:32,039 mean by that, are we talking about like the big 690 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,039 of show type things that people have been doing over 691 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,000 the last couple of years. 692 00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 2: Like the girl who fucked like a thousand guys what 693 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,480 I mean, yeah, and then wanted to do like some 694 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,840 box thing. Essentially, she wanted to be in a box 695 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,199 or in a cage and have I think she said, 696 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,840 two thousand men or whatever have their way with her 697 00:39:57,039 --> 00:40:02,119 while she's like blindfolded, and like, I don't know. Stuff 698 00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:04,360 like that is like, okay, first of all, that is 699 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,079 a safety risk at this point, like you're not even 700 00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,480 thinking about your own well being for this. 701 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: Like and you might step out from that and say, well, 702 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,960 it's her choice letter do whatever, but it creates an 703 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,760 impression of your industry where now you are. It's almost 704 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,719 like if a baseball player, a big famous baseball player, 705 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,639 hugged every person that came up to him. Oh my god, 706 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:30,440 I'll hug everyone. That's kind of my thing. And then 707 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,239 I'm a different baseball player and someone comes up to 708 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,599 me and goes give me hugs, and I go, I 709 00:40:33,599 --> 00:40:36,199 don't fucking know you. I don't know you, man. So 710 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,079 it kind of creates an environment where it's like we're 711 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:41,920 going back to a early two thousands kind of no 712 00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:45,000 holds barred type of thing. Now I did grow up 713 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,880 in that era. I did like that type of stuff 714 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,960 at the time, but now that I'm a little bit older, 715 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,000 I see the gimmick of things and go, oh, this 716 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:53,559 is kind of probably destructive. 717 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,199 Speaker 2: Yeah great because at the end of the day, but 718 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,679 people tend to or want you free. You get is 719 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,400 that most of these scenes are staged. 720 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like it's wrestling. 721 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: He has safe words, we have like extra people on 722 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,119 set and everything like stuff like that, And I feel 723 00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:19,320 like she's disregarding that it and we are very very 724 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:24,079 big honest safety and testing as well and consent like 725 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,559 Big three. 726 00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:27,679 Speaker 1: Is that the it did? I just come up with 727 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:32,000 the analogy. Porn's a lot like wrestling, where guys get 728 00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,719 slapped in wrestling and it doesn't not hurt, like if 729 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,840 you're getting fucked, like you're gonna feel it. You're getting 730 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,280 funcked today, But it was all pre planned beforehand. At 731 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,000 the end of it, even if this guy was like 732 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,239 dominating you whatever, he'd be like, all right, good great 733 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,960 job today, Sarah, I'll see you later da. So it 734 00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:49,880 is fun, but we also have to live in that world, 735 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,840 you wouldn't walk up to John Cena and punch him 736 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,800 in the chest like, nah, that guy might lay you 737 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:59,400 the fuck out, so exactly. Yeah, it's still entertainment. Then 738 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,199 it's the best thing to say. 739 00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 2: Um, do people have believed the scenarios that I've played 740 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:12,760 in sure, like these cheating wife, cheating girlfriend, stuff like that. 741 00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:16,119 Like I've had people come up to me and be like, Wow, 742 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,239 how could you cheat on your boyfriend like that? This 743 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,400 this not a great man like And I was like, ooh, 744 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,440 first of all, that wasn't even my boyfriend, Like he 745 00:42:27,639 --> 00:42:28,599 was just an extra. 746 00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: Look, it's all about the fans, and we love the 747 00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:35,559 fans and they're so great. Now, if we could please 748 00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:40,880 stop sending my Twitter fucking private dms thinking I'm the girl, 749 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,639 I'm gonna get three messages after this saying Hi Sarah, 750 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,199 I just want to go can you we love you fans? 751 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,440 We do. Can you fucking read? 752 00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 2: Though? 753 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: Maybe if you check that out, you see I'm not her? 754 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,360 Oh uh, where does the career go from? Actually no, 755 00:42:57,679 --> 00:42:59,280 let me end on that question. But let me ask 756 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,920 you this, and this is this is not a question 757 00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:06,480 I should ask in any way whatsoever? Uh, and I'm going. 758 00:43:06,199 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 2: To I want to see more now. 759 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: Well see, but it's odd. I don't even know if 760 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,000 I can relate, and I want to because I've had 761 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,159 these conversations before. But you're from Honduras, right, ye? Okay? 762 00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:19,440 Where you are? Your dead is your national what is it? 763 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,199 What do you say? See? I don't know how to 764 00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:24,119 touch on race. I'm such a pale, white loser, Like 765 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,320 what do I say? Like you're from Texas, you said, 766 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,199 but your nationality is is hundering? Okay? 767 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: All right? All right, so my parents are from there? 768 00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:35,079 Speaker 1: Gotcha? Okay? All right? Well then I have two questions. One, 769 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,119 how do you feel when the industry will mislabel people? 770 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:43,639 Because I've seen you as Ebony porn star Sarah Lace 771 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,840 like fucking fifty times. Yeah, how do you feel about that? 772 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 2: It's honestly, it can be pretty funny, sure, Like honestly, 773 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,079 for me, I kind of worry, like, does this mean 774 00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:00,599 that I'm taking a job away from someone who's Ebony 775 00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:05,119 or is this just like post production where they're like, 776 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,000 all right, well we need ten tags, let's start some 777 00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:08,480 in there. 778 00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: Sure? 779 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 2: So that I feel like that's kind of where my 780 00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:17,000 question usually lies. But I in a sense I kind 781 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,840 of am Afro Latina ye, so like I do have 782 00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:26,599 a great grandpa that is black, Okay, so I will say, 783 00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:31,119 like there is that connection regardless, I just feel like 784 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,519 ebony really just means dark skin, and I'm nowhere close 785 00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,719 to her, so like, I don't know, put me wherever you. 786 00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:42,119 Speaker 1: Want to put coach. Last question I shouldn't ask, and 787 00:44:42,159 --> 00:44:44,159 then we're going to wrap this one up. But what 788 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:48,000 is the biggest change that you think needs to happen 789 00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:51,079 to accommodate women of color in the industry? Is there 790 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,000 anything I spoke to Lily Starfire, who's a total sweetheart. 791 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,079 She had one I had no idea. She goes, I 792 00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,960 wish makeup artists knew how to work on black girls, 793 00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,440 and I was like, makes total sense. You don't want 794 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,920 to look like a clown going out there. I get it. 795 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,639 Is that? Would you agree? Or is there anything else? 796 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 2: You absolutely actually like? That is actually what I was 797 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,199 going to say as well, because I've been on set 798 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,480 where they did not have my color, but I usually have, 799 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,840 Like I usually will bring my own makeup bag one 800 00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:26,159 because prior military always prepared. Even if you don't need it, 801 00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:29,920 it's better to have it, but like I always bring everything, 802 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:34,480 especially my foundation, because there's been times where they've kind 803 00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:38,000 of switched things up on me. One time they were like, 804 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,960 oh uh, the makeup art is canceled at the last minute. 805 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,320 Can you do your makeup? So luckily I had it 806 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,800 with me. Sure, And then other times they just will 807 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:54,320 not have my like my foundation. Either they don't carry 808 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,840 the dark shades or they just don't carry as many 809 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,039 shades to be able to comedy for people. 810 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, sometimes we'll. 811 00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 2: Have like less than twenty foundations and you're just like, okay, 812 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,519 you have that many. You need to have a variety 813 00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:12,679 and not just all of the lighter shades. 814 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 1: This is a real ignorant question, but is there like 815 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,400 a woman in the industry who's known as like the 816 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,760 one who can get a darker complexion? Right, Not that 817 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,320 you have to call her out, but is there someone like, oh, 818 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,960 bring Jane in. Jane will really be able to nail 819 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,320 this or now I will. 820 00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 2: Say there's not one specific one, but I can give 821 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,119 you my favorite one from each big city. So for 822 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,079 La we have Connie. I feel like everyone knows Connie, 823 00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:52,159 and then in Vegas we have Ellie, and then in Miami, 824 00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:53,280 we have. 825 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: Natalie shout out, ladies, you're doing a great job, especially 826 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,519 with darker complexions, and we appreciate it very much. So, uh, Sarah, 827 00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:05,320 where's the career go from here? Are you going to 828 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,440 do this two more years and decide you don't want 829 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,119 to do it anymore? Are you going to make ten 830 00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:11,639 million dollars and tap out? Are we going to be 831 00:47:11,679 --> 00:47:15,119 doing guilt porn fifty years from now? Like? What is? 832 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 2: Uh? 833 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,199 Speaker 1: By the way, I interviewed Dede White the other day, 834 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,639 Saekah Black, Yo, I'm not going to live as long 835 00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:25,440 as she is doing gang bangs like she's seventy one? 836 00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:29,000 Where do you see yourself in this career? Where is 837 00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:30,280 the end? If there is an end? 838 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,679 Speaker 2: So in my head, I have a very big evolution 839 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,920 process to go. So currently I am a performer and 840 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,480 I do want to be a bit more of a producer. 841 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,519 I kind of do produce my own scenes at the moment, 842 00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:47,960 but I want to actually be on a set. And 843 00:47:48,199 --> 00:47:51,559 on top of that, I actually have a very big 844 00:47:51,679 --> 00:47:53,880 dream of writing romance novels. 845 00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 846 00:47:54,719 --> 00:48:00,039 Speaker 2: Interesting, like my true dream is full like by I 847 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:03,760 have seven hundred page romance novels, but I think I 848 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,000 kind of want to start with short one hundred to 849 00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:13,280 two hundred page like smut and turn that into scenes 850 00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:14,599 splash movies. 851 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 1: I love that. I would even pivot further if you 852 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,039 feel that you can't make the scenes in the movies 853 00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:26,039 and the quality you would want. I wonder if there's 854 00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:29,880 a podcast where you could do chapters and you could 855 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,880 really highly produce it and almost like an audio play 856 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,159 type of thing, because because no offense, but most likely 857 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,320 your target is going to be women there, right, Yes, yeah, 858 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,480 because guys can't read essentially, yeah, but your target is 859 00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:50,800 going to be women there, right. So I think about 860 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,760 who really loves ASMR and who really loves the TikTok 861 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,800 sounds and this and that, and if you could maybe 862 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,920 bring you got a winner there? Maybe you got a winner. 863 00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 2: I can do that because one of the things that 864 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,559 I like to do is bring entertainment to everyone. Sure, 865 00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:13,440 you know, men, women, non binary like and especially couples. 866 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,159 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so you know, like. 867 00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 2: I want I want someone to be able to read 868 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,639 my book or watch my porn and be like, babe, 869 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,280 look at this. Can we recreate this? Like stuff like that? 870 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:27,880 I don't know. 871 00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: I love it. No, no, I was smiling because that's 872 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,079 the clip I think for the week. It was so 873 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,320 it was so good. Uh, Sarah Lace, my guest for 874 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,639 the evening. You know exactly where you can find her. 875 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,760 I am Sarah Lace links to everything, including the social media, 876 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,519 the website, and the of or in the episode description, Sarah, 877 00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:48,079 thank you so much for coming on with me tonight. 878 00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I enjoyed going deeper.