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Speaker 1: We got to be honest. President Trump is doing some

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great things, undoing a lot of the evil that was

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done through the figureheads. And I am not at all

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wild about the AI meeting. And then Zach Abraham just

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told me something about meme coins. Please please, let's be

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honest people, Let's be consistent people, Let's be wide eyed.

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Speaker 2: Meme coins from the Trump family.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this with the help of Zach Abraham,

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my friend, the brother, chief investment officer of Bullet Capital Management.

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And we'll do this only through the good grace of

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God Almighty.

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Speaker 3: But Todd Herman show is one hundred percent disapproved by

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big pharmer technocrats and tyrant's everywhere from the hind mountains

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of Free America. Here's the Emerald City exime. Todd to

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her Man.

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Speaker 1: Today is a day the Lord has made, and these

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are the times through which God has decided we shall live.

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Zach Cabraham joins me, Chief Investment Officer, Bulwark Capital Management.

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Speaker 2: Zach, welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you, good to be back.

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Speaker 5: Good to be back.

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Speaker 1: So, just as I was getting all jazzed some things

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that Trump administration is doing, can we start with some

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of This is just shock and awe to the Democrats.

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I mean, I'm not a big fan of governing through

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executive order, but this is undoing what has been done

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and the poison that's been done by the Biden administration.

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Speaker 2: So what are you thinking of all that?

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Speaker 6: I love it, and it's you know, I think we

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all wish that that. You know, I'd be in favor

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of virtually no legislation or anything getting done via executive order, right,

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I mean, technically legislation can't, but you know, the way

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they've worked executive.

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Speaker 5: Orders, yeah, right close.

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Speaker 6: But but that's the game, right like, so, uh, you know,

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I mean that's that's what Biden did. You got to answer, serve.

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I love what they've done. I love the stuff, the

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approaches they've taken already. I yeah, I mean, no complaints.

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He's hitting he's hitting the ground running like I think

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we all thought he would. And you know, yeah, man,

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so far, so good. I love it, And uh, I

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also love I also it feels much It feels much

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more calm and less vitriolic than it did last time.

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Speaker 5: It just seems much more just down to business. And

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Speaker 6: I there seems to be I I mean, call me crazy,

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but this feels to me like the broadest coalition I

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think we've seen in a really long time, you know

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what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's no doubt this isn't a conservative party anymore.

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It's a very broad coalition. As you're saying, yeah, I mean,

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he the auto manufacturer, the union's death thrilled. Uh and

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Trump kept promises to them. There's people in energy.

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Speaker 2: Who are thrilled.

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Speaker 1: You know, real actual law enforcement people with the FBI,

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they're thrilled. You know that he's bringing in law and

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order to this. I mean, there's a lot of people,

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and obviously there's people who are terrified. I mean, I'm

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telling you because I'm experiencing with family members, people who

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have same sex attracted kids. A lot of them actually

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believe that federal troops are coming to the schools to

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grab the kids and take them out, that they're not

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allowed to go to schools anymore. And I mean because

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I have loved ones who feel this way. I mean,

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it's terrible and it's terrifying for them. So but that's

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not gonna happen. So that's going to be shown that

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that's not going to happen. But you raised something to

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me I was unaware of, and I want you to

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explain this in just a second. It's called meme coins.

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A lot of people know what that means, but the

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Trump family is launching meme coins. Yeah, okay, give me

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a second because I want to I want to relax

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for seconds and get ready to receive criticism and hatred

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because a lot of people in the podcast family don't

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criticize my boy. So let's take a break for a second.

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Let's think about another form of a scam. Here's the

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way the scam goes. This is the scam is you

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go in for back surgery. One time, you get the

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back surgery and you're good, and then the doctor's like

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you're good, and then you go I'm good, and then it's.

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Speaker 2: A little further up your back. Well it's just one

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more surgery, Okay, Well then I'm good.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Then you're good, and then you go back and it

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happens with hips, it happens with knees. And I'm not

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saying that orthopedic surgeons do this on purpose. Most of

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them don't. They simply don't want to recognize it doesn't

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have to be this way. Your body is able to

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heal itself much quicker, much more, much better.

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Speaker 2: When you're younger, you grow muscle.

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Speaker 1: When you're younger, you repair torn muscle fibers, which is

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why you can put on muscles so much better when

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you're eighteen, because your stem cells ain't shot. When you're older,

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your stem cells are old. So you can go to

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Mexico five days or so at Portavarre, to a very

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beautiful place and on resort five minutes if that, from

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the actual clinic. They'll give you stem cells up to

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forty two million of them that come only from placenta's

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and umbilical cords.

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Speaker 2: Instantly, they go through.

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Speaker 1: An attack information and they are rebuilding superstars, muscle, tendon, cartilage.

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Speaker 2: It just rebuilds it. And I am witnessed to this

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two times.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going back A because I like it down there,

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B because I want my lowre back. Taking care of

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it doesn't have to be farmer or surgery. So just

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get in touch with them. Go to renew dot Healthcare.

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It's r e n ue dot Healthcare. Please tell them

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you're part of the Todd Hermanshaw family. They'll tell you

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if they can help you or not. It's renew and

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you e dot healthcare, so zach the mean coins. This

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isn't Baron. I see Baron's doing luxury luxury apartments and

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condos and threatening Biden. Did you see him? Did you

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see him square up to Biden? No, Baron's eleven and

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a half feet tall, and so Biden's.

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Speaker 2: Given him, young man, let me sniff your neck.

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Speaker 1: And you can't really tell what Baron says, but Biden's

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got the fake you know, cap grin, the politician handshake.

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That it's called the human touch. Or no, they call

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it the human thing. That's what they call it, the

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human thing. And Biden leans and and Baron leans in

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and says something and the figurehead goes blankly gulp. And

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I'm imagining Baron goudn. I watched you try to destroy

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my entire family. I'm coming for yours.

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Speaker 2: I'd love it. I'd love it right, Right.

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Speaker 5: I got a unique set of skills.

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Speaker 1: Right, And guess what, they're not technically illegal in this country.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: It has to do with how I bland money.

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Speaker 6: Well, and thanks to the precedent you said, whatever I

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do to you, Pops is just gonna pardon me.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the four.

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Speaker 2: Years or maybe emptively, right, just we'll try that.

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Speaker 1: You can go do a mass pardon of crimes that

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haven't been tried, we know.

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Speaker 2: Actually it says that they can't do premptive pardon.

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Speaker 6: So let's he did, so how does that play? But

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he did, he effectively did do a preemptive pardon, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but that's not how they look at because

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it's he's referencing past events, so crimes known and unknown

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past events. So the Constitution's prohibitive, I think on saying,

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you can't say I pardoned this guy from many crimes

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he's going to commit, right, such as shooting one of my.

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Speaker 2: Political rivals, right, just for instance.

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Speaker 1: So the Trump family they're doing meme coins? Who in

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the Trump family is doing meme coins?

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Speaker 5: And let me just and let me just say one thing.

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Speaker 6: Really, yeah, guys, there, I was just as excited as

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all of you, probably more so in a lot of ways,

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just because in a lot of ways I had I

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had personal I mean, we all had skin writing in

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the selection, but due to the issues, you know, due

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to some of the comments Trump's made about the SEC,

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I've got personal skin in the game, yep.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm cheering form. Just this isn't.

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Speaker 6: The reason I think that this is important to talk about,

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Todd is because it's what differentiates us from the people

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on the left. Yes, meaning we will hold our own

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side accountable and we will ask the hard questions that

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we don't want to ask, right, And if we quit

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doing that, then we're just like them.

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Speaker 2: Right. I do not want to turn into those people.

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Speaker 6: Nope, can't do it. And more importantly, we all need to.

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I think we need to embrace we can hold accountable

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while supporting and cheering on right we can't, right, And

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I think it's incumbent on us to do that. I really,

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I think that we all need to take that type

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of level of responsibility. But so this is not me

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dogging on Trump. Just this is concerning to me. Now

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there isn't enough data out so I think it's also

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important that we don't don't jump to conclusions about this.

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't look good from the outset.

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Speaker 6: So they have launched They've launched the Millennia coin already.

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The word on the street is is they're planning to

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do a meme coin for every member of the family.

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Speaker 2: Who's the They though, which which Trump family members? Do

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Speaker 5: I believe what I have heard is all of the kids.

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Speaker 6: So the kids Trump and Milanga, okay, and and guys,

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on purpose. I didn't say ninety percent. But the majority

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of the crypto space is complete grift.

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Speaker 6: It is pump and dump grift, griftgrift. And I'm concerned

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on a couple levels. A. If you got forty, if

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you're worth four billion dollars, what do you need to

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Speaker 5: Off of a meme coin? A. B. We have so much.

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Speaker 6: Bigger issues to deal with. See, here's what's really concerning that.

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when a politician were to launch a mean coin for himself,

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like the Millennia coin, okay, or let's put the.

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Speaker 5: Hunter Biden coin. Okay, it's called the Hunter Biden coin.

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Speaker 6: Corruption gets way easier at that point, right, it goes

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Speaker 5: Somebody could go in there and.

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Speaker 6: Splash a five hundred dollars a five hundred million dollar bid, right,

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and provide the exit liquidity for that person to exit

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and cash out big, and it.

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Speaker 5: Would be completely You couldn't. You couldn't.

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Speaker 6: It'd be an open market transaction. So you couldn't enforce it, right, Like,

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you couldn't sit there and say it's bribery. But of

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course it is, and we we need to And I

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I don't believe it is. But what I'm saying is

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we need to take a look at this this thing.

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Speaker 5: We got to shut this down. You can't.

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Speaker 6: We cannot have elected officials being able to launch mean coins.

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Speaker 5: That is a corruption nightmare, right.

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Speaker 1: It takes the insider trading thing, and it almost cuts

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out a middleman. Wait, I don't have to pay a

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fiduciary or a broker, I don't have to pay a commission,

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I don't have to pay any points.

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Speaker 5: And it's an open market transaction, right, So they can't.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing you couldn't. You can't enforce it. I mean,

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you can't sit there and throw them in jail for it.

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Speaker 1: And this is coming at a time where they're discussing

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at the Treasury level. And I know you like this

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guy that's President Trump is nominated to run the Treasury.

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They're talking about a strategic reserve of bitcoin that the

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United States government would go out and purchase a massive

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amount to bitcoin as a strategic reserve. So now you

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are goosing and fluffing. Not that it needs fluffing. Bitcoin's

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done well, but now you're blowing up the is it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just not a good look. It's not a

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Speaker 6: And like I said, I don't think that there's intentionality

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behind it. My bet, my bet from the outside looking

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in is that the Trump family. You know, they're real

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estate folks, right, So I don't think their view of

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crypto is probably the same as mine or somebody that

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looks at it all the time. I think they probably

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see the potential the innovation involved, and I think people

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around them that know more about crypto probably said, Hey,

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in an effort to help us get more you know,

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notoriety to what this wonderful freedom of money is, you

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know all that kind of stuff, help us bring more.

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Speaker 5: Notoriety to it.

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Speaker 6: We're going to launch mean coins for you right, and

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I would bet you that's probably how we got there. Regardless.

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What I'm saying is it is a very bad look.

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I hadn't thought about this until I saw that and went,

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uh oh, we got to address this. Nobody in elected

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office should be able to do that. Nobody in elected

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office should be able to ipo a publicly traded stock

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for that matter.

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Speaker 2: Totally, totally great.

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Speaker 1: I mean they need to be hands off on that

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or or this. When they decide to place the trade,

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we get twenty four hours notice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, right, okay, cool.

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Speaker 1: Well just tell you twenty four hours ahead of time,

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then we can follow you and then just do inside information.

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Speaker 5: God, that's such a good point, man.

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Speaker 6: I've got so many clients that work for places like

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Microsoft and Boeing, and it is it is insane to

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me that my clients who are not directors, they're not

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on the board, right, they're not in the c suite. Okay,

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their rules around trading that company's stock are infinitely more

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strict than what it would be for a senator.

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Speaker 5: And that is mind blowing.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: I made the mistake of being on an M and

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a team we were in. I was on an M

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and A team for Microsoft, and I got brought in

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on this.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you had to probably take blood tests. Every time.

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Speaker 1: I got the scariest email, microsoft Legal must open Action required.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking at that, going, oh wow, that's a

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little scary.

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Speaker 1: I'll open that the second and like five minutes later

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I gets a call. Hi, this is Kathy with Microsoft Legal,

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just making sure that you received our notice action required.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna open that in a bit when I

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could open it. Now click and I'm reading it. She goes, Okay,

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I seen you've opened it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: And it was you can't trade, Yeah, you can't buy,

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you can't sell, and for your convenience, we've locked down

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your four one K through Fidelity for your convenience, so

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you don't have to.

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Speaker 5: And how and how insane is that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: That is the that's the that's what you have to

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go through, right, And you've got a senator that's in

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meetings with the and none of those restrictions apply.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's just that it.

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Speaker 1: Is insane, right, And so I agree with you fully

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and completely on the on the mean coin thing. Instantly,

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while we're talking about coins. What whatever came of this,

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this outage that Capital One had.

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Speaker 2: Did you read about.

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Speaker 1: This a bunch of depositors, like I'd actually like to

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have access to my paycheck?

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Speaker 5: Yeah I did. I heard about it briefly, but I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't that be a bigger deal?

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't that actually be something we want to know about, Like, yeah,

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i'd I'd like to know why one of the biggest

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financial organizations in the country was having.

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Speaker 2: To say the depositors.

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Speaker 1: So we're horribly sorry we are not able to allow

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you to pay your bills or feed your kids. And

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I know you've got that house closing coming up, but

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just unfortunately, due to circumstances, been our control. Uh, And

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we apologize for anyone who feels hurt by this, and

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our intention is.

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Speaker 2: To do better later, right, I mean, they shouldn't get

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away with that.

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Speaker 1: So before we get out of the because we need

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to talk about this AI meeting, and Larry Ellison would

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very much like to insert his code into you. Yeah

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that I know a lot of people excited about that.

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We need to talk about a couple of different things,

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and then we need to talk energy because dude, President

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Trump looks like he's going to kill it on energy.

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Speaker 2: But there are some risks.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about this with Zach Abraham, Chief Investments

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for Vote Capitoiage. And if you, Alex is my witness,

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did you happen to notice it? When I came in here,

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I set some tap some pills down on my motorcycle desk. Okay,

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say that loud, yes, okay, So you're my witness.

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Speaker 2: That's here's what that was.

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Speaker 1: That was P three to h M and that was

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mass seems from biopsimizers.

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Speaker 2: Why did I do that?

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Speaker 1: Because today I've had a lot of supplements, and so

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I will double down on that because I remain more regular.

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Plus it allows me to get more out of the

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protein I eat. Okay, So that's why I take the

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things in conjunction. This is all by way of saying

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I don't make stuff up here. I use these products. Tonight,

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when I'm coming back from life group, God willing, I

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which endlessly annoys my wife. But I have to be

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Speaker 2: So, Zach, I'm on the topic of our economy.

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Speaker 1: I know you like this guy, Treasury Secretary nominee Scott Bessont.

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He had a face off with Ron Wyden and let's

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watch this together, Senator Widen during the confirmation hearings talking

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about something that's allegedly called green energy.

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Speaker 4: Let's watch now, there is a big effort in the

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Trump administration to reverse it. I think that's going to

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be bad for the economy, but it is going to

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be damn good for China because we are in an

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arms race and clean energy with him, are you going

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to be on the side of people who want to unravel.

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Speaker 7: This, Senator the Senator widen Just so we can frame

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this for everyone in the room, China will build a

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hundred new coal plants this year. There is not a

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clean energy race. There is an energy race. China will

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build ten nuclear plants this year. That is not solar.

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I am in favor of more nuclear plants, and I

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would note that the IRA, as scored by the CBO,

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is wildly out of control in terms of spending on

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the upside.

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Speaker 1: So what I love about that is is that widen

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Men is a decent guy on like the medical charity state,

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and he's a decent dude, not a terrible, horrible dinner,

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but he's he's doing the talking points. We're in an

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arms race and energy race for clean energy, and I

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like Bessett, Like, no, China's not in that race. They're

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building coal plants and nuclear plants. He just just nails him.

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Is this way you like this guy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I like him.

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Speaker 6: And here's the other reason why I like him is

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that in terms of at least in my experience. I'd

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have to go back and really look at it. But

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from my recollection, we haven't had a Treasury secretary that

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was this much of a practitioner some of the greatest

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investment minds in history the way this guy has been.

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Speaker 5: And obviously that's going to be more important to me

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because of what I do for a living.

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Speaker 6: But I also think it's getting increasingly important for the

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world because we have a more like, whether you like

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it or not, we've got a more financialized system than

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we ever have before. And so often, and you and

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I have talked about this at great length. There's so

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many things in the world of finance and economics that

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are taught and believed in books and yet laughed at

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in the world of practitioners, right, And there have been

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so many times, you know, I think, for instance, if

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you look at look at the decision to cut rates

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the way that they did, the way that they have

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and when they started cutting rates, both me and my

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head of research, look who, we don't have anywhere near

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the backgrounds, pedigrees, educational backgrounds.

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Speaker 5: Of any of the people on the FED.

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Speaker 6: Right, But why is it that we were right saying

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that we believe they were cutting too early and risk

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inflation normalizing at a higher level or even increasing. And

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it has actually increased since they started this, right, well,

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not the whole cutting cycle, but but yeah, and why

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is it that we were right, Well, because we're looking

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not because we're smarter.

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Speaker 5: They probably have higher IQs.

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Speaker 6: It's because we're looking at it through the lens of practitioners, right,

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and they're not, and they're following their model.

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Speaker 5: It's just it. Bessent knows full well that models can

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be helpful.

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Speaker 6: If you rely on him, you're dead. He has to

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He worked at Soros Fund Management. He worked now people

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will be like he worked at Sorrow. There's a lot

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of great traders that have gone through Soros because whether

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or not you agreed with his politics, he's one of

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the best to ever do it.

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Speaker 5: Now maybe he has never do it. Accessing the dark arts.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's you know, a demon right right right, So

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I'm not.

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm not and I'm not. I wouldn't accept a

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job there.

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Speaker 6: I will that Soros was not nearly seen when Drunken

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Miller and Vescente worked for him.

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Speaker 5: He was not the political activist that he is today.

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Speaker 2: No, he was just a guy who cooperated with the Nazis.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's an No, there's no don't even keep

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smearing the mascara on the swine.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, I'm not okay.

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Speaker 6: But my point is, my point is on the flip side.

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He's worked with Jim Chenos, He's worked at Brown Brothers Harriman,

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I mean these, he is a practitioner. He is going

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to give us a significant advantage in terms of other

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Treasury secretaries. And then also I think, you know, dealing

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with international uh, you know.

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Speaker 5: Economic issues.

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Speaker 6: I just I think it is huge to have a

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guy he's got all of the knowledge that that that

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you know that Yellen had. He just has a whole

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nother suite. Oh wait, but Yellen, I'm just wanting pure

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academic right.

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Speaker 1: No, here's the thing that here, let me describe Yellen

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to you. She is she has all all sorts of

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knowledge that has inbred itself in her brain and the

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circle of five people she surrounds yourself for her entire

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career has inbred and it's self amplified and self passed

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back and forth through them until it's like a fifteenth

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generation of an inbred, cloistered way of thinking. That is

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the absolute bubble filled with pus in her heads.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think you're being a little too kind.

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Speaker 6: I but no, no, yeah, I mean so my whole

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point is people are like, well, does you know? Like, yes, guys,

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all you have to do is pick up an econ book.

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These people are not dynamic. All they're doing is just

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regurgitating information they were force fed in college.

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Speaker 1: This is what I liked about this conversation with Widen,

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Is I see Best? He's kind yeah, like, no, it's

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not a current energy race.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you and I, you and you and I

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have had this conversation many times on the energy subject.

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Speaker 5: And this is what, you know.

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Speaker 6: All the things that excite me is you've got so

473
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many more guys like Best and being plugged in here

474
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right what his comment that he made?

475
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Speaker 5: And I struggle with this all the time.

476
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Speaker 6: And you and I've had these conversations, like I said previously,

477
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where you go. Look, I don't disagree with what you're

478
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I don't disagree with you. You're just you're not right right,

479
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Like we're at a green energy rate. You think China

480
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tears like they don't tear it all.

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Speaker 1: Just imagine the Chinese. You know, they've got their death camps.

482
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They're the ethnic minorities and they're they're they're selling their organs.

483
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And I'm just imagining these death camps. You know, you're

484
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a weaker woman. You've had your hair shorn like a

485
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sheep fifteen different times. Now someone wants your kidney. They

486
00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:44,920
put a bid on the left kidney, and now you've

487
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done your right kidney and now they want the right kidney.

488
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Speaker 2: So you're gonna die.

489
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Speaker 1: And they take into the room and they're getting ready

490
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to kill you and take your kidney and for your

491
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body at a fire and the Chinese hinna comes is

492
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hold it you use winnis.

493
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Speaker 5: Yeah, good green energy?

494
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: Where is the natural cleaner?

495
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,079
Speaker 1: And you're like, you're you're you're the weaker woman going

496
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you gets your hooked out.

497
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Speaker 2: No, they don't care. They are I've told the story

498
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of the show.

499
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Speaker 1: They when they pretend to recycle computers, they give them

500
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to townspeople who break them open on rocks and take

501
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out the precious metals and get a rake on that.

502
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And then downstream there's little kids bathing and swimming and

503
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mom's taking the water.

504
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Speaker 2: Out to cook the soup.

505
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Speaker 1: You think they give a flying leap of a rip.

506
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we just live in an odd time where especially

507
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the people on the left, they just believe all of

508
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these things.

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Speaker 5: That this dark darn true.

510
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Speaker 6: We're in a green energy and if you say that

511
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around them, they're like, yes we are, Yes, we are.

512
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You look at them and go, guys, fifty year olds

513
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are non smokers are dying in Shanghai from lung cancer.

514
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Speaker 5: It is so polluted.

515
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Speaker 2: Yep, what race are you taught?

516
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Speaker 6: China cares about one thing, China, that's it, and and

517
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whatever cost that comes at, they don't care.

518
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Speaker 5: Yes, hey, when somebody tells you who you are, believe

519
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them right.

520
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Speaker 6: These people are they're suicidal, man like you just look

521
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at him and go okay. But we're in a green

522
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energy race with China. It's like, are we in a

523
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,519
human rights race with Syria?

524
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Speaker 2: What were you talking about?

525
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Speaker 1: I was in a I was at a wrestling a

526
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clinic back and then, well I've told the story about

527
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the Iowa wrestling clinic and some kids said to me,

528
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:38,119
because we were we had this opportunity to go, you know,

529
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one on one with with guys who'd won college championships and.

530
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Speaker 2: You know, head of the Olympics.

531
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Speaker 1: And he said, and this guy was the guy's gonna

532
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:50,119
go at was he taught double leg takedowns. He was

533
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the guy that coaches always turned to to have Scott

534
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,759
come out and teach the double leg takedowns.

535
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Speaker 2: So this guy says to me, you know what I'm

536
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gonna do.

537
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot in on him, to shoot a double

538
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,480
in on him. Yep, why because you won't expect it. Yeah,

539
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,599
no one's gonna shoot a double on him, like single

540
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:15,200
outside ankle pick, upper body throw. There's a ton of

541
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,720
things you can do. You're gonna use his expert move. Yeah,

542
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:23,640
And here's my response, you should do that. You should

543
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:27,680
you should go do that. So he goes out and

544
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,000
does that. Can you guess how that ended?

545
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: Like I will, but I'll tell you the point. I'd

546
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,119
see that, Jim, I've lost you, but I'll give you

547
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:36,640
the point here.

548
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Speaker 1: It ended with Scott laughing, sprawling, turning the guy and

549
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:43,480
pinning him in.

550
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Speaker 2: One of the most painful possible ways in the world. China.

551
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 1: They're looking at this guy widen saying we're in a

552
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clean energy race.

553
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Speaker 2: We need to catch up. We need to go all

554
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:59,640
in and wind bills and just look at him, going,

555
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,480
you should do that. That's a good idea.

556
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,559
Speaker 5: Ron love it. Meanwhile, meanwhile, can we buy some more oil?

557
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.

558
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Speaker 6: It's just it's we were just talking about this earlier

559
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this morning in the office, and it really is a

560
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you know, like for instance, yesterday when that quote unquote

561
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Bishop is giving the you know, eulogy or whatever. Uh,

562
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she's like, transgender and gay and lesbian children all around

563
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,400
the around this country are fearing for their lives and

564
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,440
you look at her and go, uh, why why.

565
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,039
Speaker 1: Well, because they've been told a fit for the lives

566
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:37,680
by the mockingbird media. I have family members I love

567
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,200
dearly and they're terrified, and I am. I'm looking in

568
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,400
the eye and I'm telling you, I have family members

569
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,319
who are smarter than you and I combined, who believe

570
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:53,000
that there are shock troops headed to colleges that receive

571
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,920
federal funding, and they're going to come in and say,

572
00:28:56,279 --> 00:29:03,319
V have your instagrams zoo you mean contracted and you're done?

573
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Speaker 5: You mean, just like they did from twenty sixteen to

574
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twenty twenty.

575
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, but he's a new man. I mean, so okay, right,

576
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:13,960
I know it never happens, but you can't age it's

577
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:16,799
one thing on oil. The other thing that you the

578
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:19,440
guy you seem to like this Scott Best, neet a Best,

579
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And he made this other point when he was talking

580
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to Widen. Iran was down to one hundred thousand barrels

581
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of oil exports when President Trump left office. They're now

582
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,119
exporting one point seven million. We can make the ira

583
00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:33,680
genium the Iranian regime broke again at the same time

584
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increase our domestic production, highest energy standards in the world.

585
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If that happens, if we go all in on this

586
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for four years, I have to imagine that the after

587
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effect on increasing oil supply, oil exports here all of

588
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a sudden, Does am I wrong?

589
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: Or does the nature of real.

590
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Speaker 1: Backed in secured capital change significantly in this country? This

591
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construction change, the house prices changed. Is there anything that's

592
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not benefited it doesn't get the benefit of an oil.

593
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Speaker 2: Move like that?

594
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Speaker 3: No?

595
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Speaker 6: No, I mean, and oil is one of those you know,

596
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it's we've talked about this before too, which is oil

597
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,680
is one of those things that like it is an

598
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economic indicator.

599
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,079
Speaker 5: And uh, I mean it goes into everything, right, So yeah,

600
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it it benefits us.

601
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Speaker 6: And the other part of it too, is just it's

602
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,799
just a projection of power, right, meaning bottom line is

603
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,559
the higher percentage of global oil production your country produces,

604
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,519
you know, the more the more power you got, right,

605
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,079
and the more projection of path you know what I mean,

606
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just because everybody needs it and not everybody has it,

607
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and no, it's it's yeah, and that's it's a weird

608
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480
place where we are in this country, where you're like,

609
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:50,359
there's so many easy things we can do to improve

610
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,279
things so quickly. The biggest obstacle we have are fantasies,

611
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,359
you know, made up, made up, made up stories and

612
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:01,960
and you know, I think to a large degree the

613
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,519
whole climate thing in general is one of them.

614
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Speaker 5: Right.

615
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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of that, you got to hear this. This

616
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is from the UK Guardian. I think it's a Guardian

617
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,319
UK households with a fireplace face one thousand pound finds

618
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:24,519
this winter house households with fireplaces could be handed a

619
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:26,000
fine for having.

620
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Speaker 2: A fireplace at all.

621
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Speaker 1: They're to fill them up, they're supposed to brick them

622
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:38,480
over because God knows, you're always going to have access

623
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,640
to other forms of heat. You'll never need to burn

624
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,880
a log to keep your family alife. That doesn't happen anymore,

625
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,400
I know, I know.

626
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,039
Speaker 6: Well, and not only that, but quite honestly, I'm not

627
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:55,200
saying it's like, but technically speaking, if you're comparing it, like,

628
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,480
if you want to take a hard line environmental stance,

629
00:31:57,839 --> 00:31:59,880
you should probably like firewood more than you like any

630
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,599
else because every piece of wood on this planet is

631
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,559
going to is going to rot and emit its carbon

632
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:08,920
that it contains inside of it back into the atmosphere.

633
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: So you might be speeding it up a little bit.

634
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:14,319
Speaker 6: But like you know, whereas if we're pulling oil and

635
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,920
that gas from the ground, that was never going to

636
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end up in the atmosphere.

637
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: Right right, So you want me to use that gas

638
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:22,519
instead of.

639
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: Wood, Well no, now they want to ban that gas.

640
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:26,920
The figurehead didn't know he banned it. Did you know

641
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,079
that he didn't know that he paused it? Oh, he

642
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,319
had literally no idea?

643
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Speaker 5: Did he pause?

644
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: What the exports of liquid natural gas?

645
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:35,039
Speaker 6: Oh?

646
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:36,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

647
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,359
Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson finally told us that one other thing I

648
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,359
want to touch on in terms of energy, then you

649
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:44,160
have got to talk about this AI thing. It has

650
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,799
to do with, oh, do you think you would want

651
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,240
to allow Let's say, let's see you had a neighborhood's

652
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:55,799
uh pedophile, and he said to you, Hey, can I

653
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:59,440
have a key to your house so when you're gone,

654
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,200
if there's a I can come in and you know, like,

655
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:04,599
let's let's say I hear your cat stuck in a

656
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,000
room and I don't want it to pooh, how about

657
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,839
a backdoor access to your house? Well, i'll tell you

658
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:12,440
why I'm saying that in just a brief second here, Hey,

659
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,160
will you say a prayer police for our friends at

660
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,799
Alan Soaps? And I'll tell you why, because they're down

661
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,880
in CALIFORNIAA and it's burning again. And I tried to

662
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,279
talk John Leave into leaving come up to the high

663
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,680
mountains of North America. He can't because his kids are

664
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,240
locked in down there with support, his mom, everybody down there.

665
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:33,480
And I want you to say this prayer for them

666
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,240
to be safe in these fires. And I want to

667
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:38,359
stop with that today. Let's just say that the soap

668
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,599
company it's there. You should use the soap.

669
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Speaker 2: If you don't, you're a stink in communist.

670
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:44,799
Speaker 1: But I just want to stop and just I don't

671
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:48,039
want to politicize the thing, honestly, because it's a tragedy

672
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,759
and you know, it's not like I'm going to sit

673
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:52,240
here and say if you don't buy Allen's you know

674
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:56,279
you love Nancy Pelosi far better than your country and

675
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,240
because that what you're known.

676
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to politicize it.

677
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,319
Speaker 1: We'll just we'll just pray for them today at Alan

678
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,079
SOPs dot com slash Todd Zach, this is a This

679
00:34:04,119 --> 00:34:08,000
guy's name is Tommy Walter and he's a former Force

680
00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:12,599
recon Marine. Incidentally, if you ever offered the opportunity to,

681
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,480
let's say, go into the woods and fight a Force

682
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:21,880
recon marine, maybe don't like and they might do the

683
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,519
same where they give you a three day head start.

684
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Speaker 5: It's not enough.

685
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 6: Enough. The Force recon Marines are really interesting individuals because

686
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most people don't realize who they are.

687
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Speaker 5: These guys are just as bad as any Navy seal.

688
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are bad mothers, right, and maybe don't challenge

689
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him to things new right?

690
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Speaker 7: Right?

691
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Speaker 1: So he was talking about a transformer that came into

692
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our country. Watch this and listen to this, and thank

693
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,519
you to Wall Street Apes for pointing this out to me.

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Speaker 8: The summer of twenty nineteen, a massive transformer was seized

695
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,719
at the por to Houston by the US federal government

696
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,280
and the Department of Energy put under federal escort to

697
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Sandia National Laboratory. As during the Trump administration, when we

698
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,320
were serious about these things, why why was that transformer seies?

699
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,400
Why was it brought to San Diem? Came from China,

700
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,679
came from China. What did they find in it? Officially

701
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:18,440
we don't know. That report is still classified. But one

702
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,840
of the Trump administration officials that worked at the National

703
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,800
Security Council, Latham Sadler, he discussed on an interview how

704
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they had found a hardware backdoor in this transformer that

705
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would allow someone to remotely switch it off. That was

706
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twenty nineteen. May first, twenty twenty, President Trump passed an

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executive order called Securing the Bault Power System. President Trump

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declared a grid security emergency. At the time, our nonprofit

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was tracking the numbers these things. He's Chinese transformers. There's

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about three hundred and the grid. That executive order was

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meant to address that threat. On the very first day

712
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of the Biden administration, that executive order was suspended and

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the floodgates were reopened to the importation of Chinese transformers.

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We pulled the numbers two weeks ago, four hundred and

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ninety two.

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Speaker 1: So to boil this down, I mean, just to repeat

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what we just saw. They seize a transformer that came

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into America federal government's Department of Energy, and they find

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hardware a backdoor into the transformer that would allow someone

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to remotely switch it off. So President Trump leaps into

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action twenty twenty. He secures our energy system says it's

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at risk. Obviously, the backbone of energy systems at risk.

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On day one, the people who run the figureheads either

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sign something on his behalf because he doesn't know what

725
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,559
he's signing, or he signed something and they probably told

726
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:37,519
him this is to get Hunter the help he needs,

727
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:41,639
because he's the kindest, wisest man we've ever known. Someone

728
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,079
explained this to me in a way that doesn't involve

729
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,000
people being either compromised or paid.

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Speaker 2: You got nothing, Yeah, no, yeah, we prefer.

731
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Speaker 1: To have the Chinese Communist Party be able to turn

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off our electrical game whenever they want.

733
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Speaker 2: Incidentally, there are Lenovo laptops.

734
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Speaker 6: Well and to go to go to go for what

735
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,159
you're saying this is and and and Trump's been pounding

736
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:13,760
on this and again, there's just you. You can't no

737
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,960
rational person can argue at this point. Those transformers, which

738
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,719
we're talking about, the big dogs, right, so people, I

739
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,159
think people are thinking the ones that are up on

740
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the powerpot.

741
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, talk about those big ones. Right.

742
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Speaker 6: We don't even manufacture those in the United States period anymore.

743
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Speaker 5: Right, we know that our grid is one of the

744
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most exposed.

745
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Speaker 6: We don't even manufacture them here. We don't have an

746
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option to buy them here.

747
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Speaker 5: Okay, you think about that.

748
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Speaker 6: That's just insanity, right, Uh, I know, and we all

749
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,159
know that our grid is like the most exposed vulnerable.

750
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Speaker 5: Thing, right.

751
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,199
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's nothing else to add to this. It's

752
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,760
not energy, but it's very related to the economy. I

753
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,880
saw a ton of people so jazz about operations stargate,

754
00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,239
and so it has to be named after a sci

755
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,400
fi thing. I get President Trump's zeal for bringing in

756
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,119
business people. They're better they they're used to working in

757
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,280
a world of accountability, but they're entering a world of

758
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,400
no accountability. There's no accountability in government.

759
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: Now, doge in.

760
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Speaker 1: That's you know, Elon Musk is going out and going

761
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to trim down government. They got to vivid Grahmaswami out

762
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of the way.

763
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Speaker 2: Praise God. He's gonna go run for governor. I think

764
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,119
that guy is a total grifter, so he's not gonna.

765
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: Be on doge Elon. Smart Man moved him out of

766
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,000
the way. So that's one thing. But this AI Council,

767
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,840
there's a personality involved in this that isn't quite the

768
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Sam Bankman Freed level dude.

769
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Speaker 2: But who's this guy?

770
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Speaker 1: The the open AI guy Sam Sam Altman. Can we

771
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,920
once again kind of explain this because I'm deeply disturbed

772
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that this guy's involved in this because he has a

773
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:02,960
profit of for profit nonprofits. That's it not for profits,

774
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,039
but it's a for profits and it doesn't it doesn't

775
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report its revenues, and yet it's it's the value of

776
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:12,000
the company is a good jillion dollars, but it's not

777
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because it's a nonprofit.

778
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Speaker 2: Did I nail that?

779
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,199
Speaker 3: Yeah?

780
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Speaker 6: And and Musk has been pretty vocal about the criticisms too.

781
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Here's the other thing on a personal level, And man,

782
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I hate to bring this up because I don't think

783
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,440
people are careful enough about this, but they're just some

784
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:33,280
very concerning stories around Altman and his family as well.

785
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:39,840
There are He's got a sister who, multiple times written

786
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,440
and spoken, has accused him of sexually abusing.

787
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 5: Her repeatedly as she lord God.

788
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Speaker 6: The family, including the parents, have said that she suffers

789
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:55,960
from mental illness, and I I've I've dealt with mental

790
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,320
illness in my family as if we Yeah, that wouldn't

791
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,320
surprise me at all to see a to see you know,

792
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:07,119
a non uh an accusation that that had no merit

793
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:10,599
to it. At the same time, she's been pretty vociferous

794
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:14,079
about her claims, and I let me just put it

795
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:15,760
this way. I just think that there's a lot to

796
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,880
be concerned around the guy. And when I see Sam,

797
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,480
when I see Trump standing next to Altman, the one

798
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,639
thing I will say is Trump. You know, Trump's got

799
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access to people and data and information on Alman.

800
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Speaker 5: That you know, I don't.

801
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,679
Speaker 2: So that's good fun.

802
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna trust his read on it.

803
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,119
Speaker 1: Plus the intelligence services would never set him up with

804
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that information.

805
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Speaker 5: Oh no, way, right, No, he.

806
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Better have his own people vetting people.

807
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, And I just, uh, let's put it.

808
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 6: There's just there's enough around Altman to not trust him.

809
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:52,679
Speaker 2: Well, it's by by not trust.

810
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Speaker 6: I don't mean knowing he's evil, But I truly the

811
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definition of I.

812
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Speaker 1: Don't know when I heard this guy say I'm not

813
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,400
making any money in this effectively say that.

814
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 6: And he owns two five million dollar cars, Yeah, something

815
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:04,519
like that.

816
00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:06,199
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm not doing this for the money and

817
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,920
I don't really make any money out of it. And

818
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:12,440
that profit nonprofit partnership thing that they set up the foundation,

819
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,239
I'm sorry, that's scam ville. But I'll tell you the

820
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:20,239
one that really gave me nightmares is seeing Larry Ellison,

821
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,159
who Oracle. People don't get this, Like, you don't hear

822
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:26,079
about Oracle a lot, no one. You don't go talk

823
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,079
to your friends and say I'm getting an Oracle phone.

824
00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:30,480
I mean, Oracle for a while tried to make a

825
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,960
couple of consumer products. It didn't work, and so they

826
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,639
went back to what they're really really good at, databases,

827
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,320
crunching data and at rates and at volume that no

828
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:40,960
one can do.

829
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,119
Speaker 2: He is so tied in.

830
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Speaker 1: To the intelligence services that there are people who consider

831
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,760
Oracle to be a second CIA or a second NSC.

832
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:55,360
And I'm talking about operators who consider that. Yeah, so

833
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:58,039
to have him say, you're going to come into a

834
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,320
medical center and we're going to do a in and

835
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,159
find out you got the cancer real bad, and then

836
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:06,960
we're gonna have our AI design a MR and a

837
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:13,760
cure for you in forty eight hours. No thanks, I

838
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,400
opt out.

839
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:21,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, this is such a

840
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,239
confusing time to look at so many of these things,

841
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,480
because technology is enabling things to occur and happen that.

842
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 5: Has never right, and yet so much of it is.

843
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 6: In the hands of people that you can't trust as

844
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,239
far as you throw them, you know what I mean. Like,

845
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,880
So anyway, I like, for instance, the MRN a thing

846
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:40,079
I've read about it.

847
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 5: I probably I.

848
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,679
Speaker 6: Don't know as much about it as you, so feel

849
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:45,239
free to jump in and correct me where I'm wrong.

850
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:49,360
But I think that it's been horrific how it's been handled.

851
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,440
But also on the flip side, there is some really

852
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,320
interesting potential there as it relates to or at least

853
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,719
there was correct Again, I haven't done as much work

854
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,400
on it as you have, But isn't it when you

855
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,440
put it in the category of something that just needs

856
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,840
a lot more work done on it? It's not people ready,

857
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,719
but there is reason to continue exploring down that road.

858
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 5: Wouldn't you say that's fair?

859
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: Uh no, really?

860
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,079
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's just bad all around.

861
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: So let me let me present it this way. If

862
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:23,000
you accept the premise that we are uninstalled unit bases,

863
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:26,920
we're uninstalled user bases, or as Microsoft woul referred to

864
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,320
us as OEMs. Okay, so there's a bunch of computers

865
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,599
out there without our stuff on it. If you accept

866
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,719
that premise, and you look at mRNA and say, yeah,

867
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,000
you know what I'd like you to do is I'd

868
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:41,400
like you to start building computer code to compete with

869
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,559
my body's DNA. And I don't think that that's ever

870
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:48,679
going to turn bad. And I don't think that anyone

871
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,880
in business will ever construct computer code in the human

872
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:58,280
body that requires content updates or you get sick, then yeah,

873
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,880
go with the MR and A. But when Bill Gates

874
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,239
calls this a platform, these guys, one of the things

875
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,360
about Silicon values, none of them think they're wrong.

876
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: You're the guy who pointed that out.

877
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: And a guy like Ellison, with all the money, all

878
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,400
the time, all the strategists, all the scientists he can

879
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,880
pay all day long, they don't five your plans tomorrow

880
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,599
to them.

881
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you look out from this step by

882
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,679
step by step by step, let's let's just do some things.

883
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:32,119
Speaker 1: Eighty percent of Americans are on some form of psychotropic

884
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,079
eighty stinking percent crazy of probably one third of Americans,

885
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,760
eighty percent of young people one third of Americans, thirty percent,

886
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,800
eighty percent of people under age of twenty five, Those

887
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:42,559
things are addictive.

888
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,519
Speaker 5: Is psychotropic? How would we define that?

889
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,199
Speaker 2: That's a depressant anti anxiety?

890
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, so kids, young people under twenty five.

891
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,360
By some measures, it's twenty five percent, it's eighty percent, Zach.

892
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:56,199
That stuff's addictive. It's as bad as phentonol. Some people

893
00:44:56,199 --> 00:44:59,119
say worse. Do you see farmer stepping up to say, hey,

894
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:00,880
you know what, We're going to figure out some ways

895
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,760
to get you off this now, Todd, How.

896
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 6: Is eighty percent of any population that's just insane?

897
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: I know, and many of them are on multiple pills.

898
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,119
That's our soul design data pressants. Okay, so there's that.

899
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,119
So the same people who are pharmatypes now are bringing

900
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:24,320
Ellison types. You tell me they're not going to formulate

901
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,519
the code that they're writing in the body, because this

902
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:28,920
stuff is computer code to need.

903
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,679
Speaker 2: Updates, of course they are.

904
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,519
Speaker 1: Okay, So what happens when you need an update, Well,

905
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,400
there's some things we're going to need you to change.

906
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,480
And I'm telling you this opens the door to something else.

907
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,920
If it can be coded, it can be.

908
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,119
Speaker 5: Hacked, right, Yeah, that's true. Yep.

909
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,119
Speaker 1: And when they're starting to talk about self amplifying so

910
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:58,360
called vaccines, self replicating vaccines, you walk next to somebody

911
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,639
who got this stuff, and you get this stuff.

912
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 2: Suddenly they're doing forced downloads.

913
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember how angry people got at you two

914
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,079
when they gave away their album on iTunes because people

915
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:11,679
up on the phone like what the heck, my phone's

916
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:15,800
saken forever? To like what, oh, well, thanks you too for.

917
00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

918
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,119
Speaker 1: Now, just imagine when they forced an upload into you,

919
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,679
into your bodies.

920
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: So I don't buy the.

921
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:31,199
Speaker 1: Premise that I want human code in my body. And

922
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:34,119
consequently on the m R and I I'm I'm I'm

923
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,239
no to the idea that I need additional human code

924
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:37,800
in my body.

925
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

926
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: And I'm also I'm looking at the trajectory of the

927
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:45,360
MR and as there's been nothing positive from them, there's

928
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:45,880
I can tell.

929
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 5: Yeah that's true.

930
00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was operating off the when I first heard

931
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,960
Mcca Peter McCulla talk about it, and he was saying,

932
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,159
how there's really interesting possibilities, but he was like, this

933
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,239
is just not anywhere close to being game time ready.

934
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,679
Speaker 2: And that's that's a very shredable way to put it.

935
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,079
Speaker 1: And doctor McColo knows more about this yesterday, he forgot

936
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,079
more about it than I do. And so all I'm

937
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:16,360
saying is, Overton windows aren't just political, right. Overton windows

938
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,360
are in personal relationships, you know, you expand boundaries of

939
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,039
personal relationships. They're in business, they're in and they're in science.

940
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:27,719
And the Overton window that I don't want to open

941
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the door to is, yes, please let human beings write

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code that is going to compete with the the code

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God wrote, and I'll put that in my body. That

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makes sense. Yes, I happen to think God writes clean code.

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Speaker 5: I would trust it much better than ours.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's that's what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating discussion today, my brother, Thank you as always for coming.

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Speaker 2: On the program, and thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You bet we'll see you soon, hopefully back over here

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in the High Mountain to free America one day.

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Speaker 2: Real soon.

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Speaker 5: We need to make that happen.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll do that. This is Todd Herbert Show.

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Speaker 1: Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and please

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make every effort to walk in the light of Christ.

