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Speaker 1: And we're back. So we've already talked about a few

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times coming up here. But Mike had a great question.

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Speaker 2: I have some other.

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Speaker 1: Discord responses as well too, but it's something that I

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was thinking.

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Speaker 2: About, like whether it's a bread of butter or whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But he asked, Uh, Both Mickey seventeen and Sinners are

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two big twenty twenty five virgual movies made by beloved

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directors featuring bold genre concepts. Yet Mickey seventeen failed to

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really grab the audience attention to the box office, where

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these Sinners is performing very well, holding strong from week

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to week. What are the factors that cause these different

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outcomes for people that don't know if you're you know,

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I won't say living on a rock, but if you

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just don't follow this stuff, and hopefully you just if

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you just choose us as your news source, we appreciate it.

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Sinners had like a four point three percent drop from

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second week. I can't remember where it is. It's either

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the best hold or one of the best. It is

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for like a radar film like There's I should have

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got the list. There's just like multiple records, especially it's

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in the rated R sphere. That's breaking a lot of

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those records because that's a lot harder. But yeah, had

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a four point three percent drop is crazy. Now, of

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course it's like made like forty nine million week one

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and forty four million, so it's not like an endgame

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where you make three hundred million. Then obviously the drops

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for the massive, but still that holds all of retention

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and even this weekend it's projected as like thirty five million.

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So that's another really good hole that had something like

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a really great hole on Easter two, which people were

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wondering because you know, it's the Jesus Holiday and it's

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called Sinners. So but I have like a bump in

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money and stuff, so it's doing killer.

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Speaker 3: Be Atheists showed up big that yea can Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Coogler were coming out, you were with you, but uh yeah,

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so it could be routing out anywhere from like three

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hundred million, which is pretty good for a ninety million

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budgeted film like original, but still that's a big budget

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film for an original IP lots of those stuff we've talked.

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It's like, oh, that's like a twenty to forty, maybe fifty,

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but ninety So obviously it's a thing.

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Speaker 3: That ninety is that you know, excluding marketing as we

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Speaker 1: So so if you were to double it, let's say

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they went that be one hundred and eighty, So if

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it's projected to finish around three hundred, that's it's still.

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Speaker 2: Like a really good haul.

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Speaker 1: Where it's funny, We've talked about this a few times, Mickey,

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seventeen centers are both from Warner Bros. Right, And there's

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that whole thing of like the current heads right now

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where you're kind of like, well, let's see how this

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year does and you're kind.

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Speaker 2: Of hot water.

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Speaker 3: But so you know, so there's money. You know, it's

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not saving the company or anything, but it's for Coogler,

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it's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in company.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing at least for them that they're

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hoping is you got Superman in two months and then

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Minecraft was also Warner Brothers MOO, which.

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they're leaving on beds of money now, yeah, which is.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good because they're going into a contract year for

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twenty twenty six, so it will be interesting how that

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plays out. But yeah, what do you think is the

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difference here between Obviously, like Mike said, both you know,

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pair like god bunge and hole like praise in a

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different way.

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Speaker 2: But you know one mini oscers parasites.

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Speaker 1: Hell, it's such high regard officer Ryan Coogler with his

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MCU track record and creating all this other stuff. Both

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different concepts. What do you take from this as far

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as Sinners having these record breaking ones from Key seventeen

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that are truly meaningful between them. I think we can

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and why Mickey seventeen didn't didn't do so great for Sinners.

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this on Box Office Mojo. You know, I'm trusting, trusting

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so like almost identical really between like Parasite and Mickey seventeen.

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of sense. And I was specifically looking like down to

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the region and like the two regions, one that you

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like it has a Korean director, But then everything else

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about it is like a very American movie, even down

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to like the humor of it and like the style

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such a huge movie Best Picture winner put Bong Jun

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markets anymore, so they didn't show up. But then, you know,

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he transferred the focus to like North America. Well, then

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like that you know didn't pan out either because like

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Speaker 2: That's because I was curious.

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Speaker 1: With Parasite, I looked as a one point four million

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dollars budget, which is like that's like like once they

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up and I'll go to that point. But s Pub

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said Parasite, despite being very claimed, a lot of people

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actually haven't seen it. As compared to telling someone in

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the new movie from the Black Panther director.

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Speaker 2: And then I also think that showing Michael B.

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Speaker 1: Jordan shooting guns at some vampires and s easier to

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sell than Robert Passing McClone.

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Speaker 1: Think repeat business is legit here because Sinners is so

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different exciting to be Mickey, Well, it was a shitty

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but the fact that it's like low like it's it's

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: And he says, none of my friends ever suggested seeing

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the movie twice. They're not movie people ever. Tonight we

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see Sinners again. And I think that's one thing where

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what s Bubb said at the first point, that that's

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don't know if she would have. And that's where there

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it's like that's true, Like the movie is being sold like, yeah,

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there's more to it, but the marketing has just been hey,

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let's say, know nothing about it, don't know the description, whatever,

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think people pick the Michael B. Jordan ticket, you know.

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is a real thing nowadays, but I think that is

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something where like other than Batman, Passon's not pulled stuff

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for like Michael B. Jordan, Sure, Black Panthers, Marvel, but

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Creed he's been holding that down.

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Speaker 2: He's done this. Like Michael B.

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Speaker 1: Jordan has like a little resume now of multiple movies

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that he has led and have been big hits where

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I know someone's gonna throw Twilight at me. But if

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Passing was and then or not, it would have been

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a hit, you know, like if if Henry Cavill got

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that role, like he was the runner up, it still

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Speaker 2: Been a massive thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't put Pattison's the reason Twilight it has done well.

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We'll see because Pattison has a movie was Ada coming

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out next year and Jennifer Lawrence, so maybe I'll be

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proven wrong, maybe those will hit really well.

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Speaker 2: But I think that helps too. I think Michael B.

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Speaker 1: Jordan is just a bit more of a mainstream like

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an action star in a sense, you know.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's that's a I hadn't really

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thought about him in that way before, but like, you're

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totally right, and he's like all over movie posters when

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you really think about it. But I was gonna ask, like, you,

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what do you think about Coogler in that in that dynamic,

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because I feel like to that same point, it's like, Okay,

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people would have seen Black Panther regardless of who obviously

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it was parting for that movie that it was like

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a black director or whatnot. But like, yeah, I don't

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know if people could even tell you who the director

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of the Black Panther movies are right, because I feel

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like a lot of people would have come. They don't

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go to a Marvel movie for the director. Usually there

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might be like the odd case there, and it's like

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that's where like context is so important, where you could

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look at Sinners compared to Black Panther one and two

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and be like, wow, Coogler's movie is bombing compared to

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what he did last time. But obviously that's like on

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whole different scales, different budgets and like all these different things.

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And this is of course original, which is really meaningful

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and powerful too. But yeah, I mean, I how much

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do you think the name Coogler is like getting people

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to the box office right now or getting people rather

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to the theater, not to the box office.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is right now. I think it's

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kind of like what s pub said. I agree it's

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the from the director of Black Panther. If it's the

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Black Panther director, I think in five years from now,

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more people I do think Coogler is going to establish

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himself to be similar to like a nol And Tarantino type,

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own horn. But I said on Black Panther review, like

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this guy I did not care about Rocky. He made

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me care about Rocky. And for me, I still think

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Black Panthers the best MCU movie. And then this is

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a fantastic movie. I gave it a perfect score. If

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you haven't listening to review, so listen to that. So

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for me, I think he will in a few years

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be quite established where Ryan Coogler is the name, but

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I still think right now it is just the director

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of Black Panther, and I think a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of people did love that movie.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that specifically, like the black community

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did love that movie and it felt representational. And I

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remember because Tata said the same thing about Sinners when

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we saw Black Panther. I remember probably twenty percent of

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the audience was white and the rest was not. And

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Tato said the same thing when he saw Sinners in

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Atlanta was the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And for me, that's the thing where I think.

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Speaker 3: You know, very important in Colona specifically, which is not

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a super diverse place, especially there's not a lot of

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black people there in general, so that was that was

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super notable. I remember that theater experience being like this

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is really cool to see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where Atlanta definitely more skewed.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I think he's established a good base

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of I think people know he tells for the most part,

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even if it's like riddled and my creed isn't exactly that.

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But like he's kind of similar to Jordan Peele where

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they're definitely telling stories that are in the vein or

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or about the lifestyle of being a black person, right,

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and support And I don't think there's anything wrong with that,

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but I just think because Black Panther was such a

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landmark moment, it's like, oh that and again, like you said,

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even that even Black Panther, Wilkanda Forever, if you compare

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Sinners to that, wakandaf Forever's a nine hundred million dollar movie.

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Speaker 2: This interest is that three hundred.

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Speaker 1: It's great, but that's like a massive like space between, right,

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So not everybody that sees Black Panther goes out to

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be like, oh, I'm gonna go support Ryan Coogl or

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whatever he does. But I think he just has a

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few more than like you know, Bong Joho or like

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even Peel, like I remember, Nope, like ended up performing

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is unfortunate because that's his best one. Like I think

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that's where Google is gonna have some more people because

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he brought a lot of you know.

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Speaker 2: Fantasy lie for people with Black Panther, right, and that's

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a good thing. Like Marvel gave him that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: It's not just him, but he delivered on it, right,

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because if he would have made Black Panther shit, then

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he would have been the guy that screwed up Black

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Panther and that would have been that would have been

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really bad for him.

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Speaker 2: Then he wouldn't be the Sinner's run.

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Speaker 1: So I think right now it's not his name, but

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it's the or around his name of like from the

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because now too he'll have from the director of Black

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Panther and Sinners when you can always have another one there,

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like whenever no one's directing a movie, it's always like

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Dark Night Inception Interstella, it's like, oh man, there's like

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ten movies here that are like saying thing Tarantino, right,

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But now he has creed Black Panther series and Sinners

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because he did say he's gonna go and finish Black

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Panther three, and it sounds like he's going right back

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to Warren Brothers after, so I think, and I.

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Speaker 2: You know, Black Panther three, who knows what they're gonna

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do there.

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Speaker 1: I trust that it's gonna, you know, at least be

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a good movie.

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Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see that. But uh yeah, and again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the overall, I think it's just it does it's

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it is an easier concept to sell. Even though I'm

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the person you got nos Fratu in this. I'm the

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person last you said vampires were dead. But to me,

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it's very different when you got no os Forratu in Sinners.

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These are vampire movies that are like made with very

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like hard thought and lots of you know, not that

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sounds maybe bad because I think every movie people put

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care into, but this just feels like the extra.

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Speaker 2: Mile, right, I'll just say they feel prestige. That's what

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Speaker 1: They're prestige vampire movies versus I feel like the past

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few years we've gone a lot of schlock, and that's

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where it's like, oh, vampires are coming back.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I think it's just I don't think it's that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's just you had Robert Eggers and Ryan

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Coogler are two very like stylized rectors versus you know,

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just kind of Joe off the block who just wants

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to make a slash or like something like that Nick

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Cage one last year that came out. That's like, okay,

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Nick Age's playing Dragla, that's the gimmick. But that was

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all that was there, right, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how Mickey seventeen would have done because

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I was surprised at how sci fi that movie was.

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We're in spaceships were flying around, there's you know, colonizing planets,

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like I didn't expect that. I knew that we were

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sci fi because there's like cloning and things like and

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there's a weird machine that Robert Patterson's popping out of

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it all this stuff, but I don't know, I didn't

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feel like I really got that perspective from it, and

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not nor do I feel like the poster really sells that.

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And I don't know, maybe if they had dipped more in,

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maybe that would be a little I mean, I don't know.

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the sci fi stuff, I don't think it would be

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like misleading people to sell some of that stuff more.

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But I wonder if that would have brought a bigger

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audience in you know, people who are like into sci

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fi stuff. And I think another comparison point that's interesting

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between both of these and that's just maybe you can

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look at this year so far and it's like, Okay,

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there hasn't been a ton of like big blockbuster type

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things coming out. I feel like both these movies kind

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of had like a free runway to like crush it

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for a few weeks, not a lot of super stiff competition,

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and so obviously we can see like the difference between

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them more Sinners is like picking up steam, whereas Mickey

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seventeen just like dropped off and then just like died

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like almost immediately. So I don't know, I'm really curious

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to see what this weekends like, especially with a big

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Marvel movie coming on, not a big Marvel movie, but

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a Marvel movie coming out, which you know is usually

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like a big box office, well is often a box office,

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but not maybe not even usually anymore. So we'll see

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like what happens to the momentum of that. But yeah,

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I think that just goes to show like maybe the

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quality of the movie overall. Of course I love Makeey seventeen.

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We were generally positive on it here on our reviews,

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but I think it has been like generally more mixed,

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whereas centers like across the poor people love it and

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then that word of mouth gets people to go and

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see it, and I did. I was able to convince

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my parents to go see Mickey seventeen, so I got

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a couple of ticket sales there. But I think, like

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I shouldn't have to like this bum. You know, you

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saw his last movie. You know, he's an exceptional director

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with like really weird, interesting writing, great cast. Like I

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don't know, it shouldn't have had to be one of

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those movies. But it wasn't even able to be that

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just because of maybe it was a little more divisive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do think it's like a small percentage.

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Speaker 1: But I said this with Kap as well, where I

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don't think the previews were hitting you over the head,

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But at least with Mickey seventeen, you felt like there's

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still gonna be like somewhat of a political skew, Like

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even some of the stuff they showed with what's his

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name there Mark Ruffalo where I feel like, again this

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Sinner's trailer, there is a lot of stuff that has

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to do with you know, race and slaves, but that's

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not too overtly in the trailers. I feel like they're

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not selling you on that where I feel like I've

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said this before, I think a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Political stuff is a turnoff for people. Right away. I

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thought that with Cap I thought that.

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Speaker 3: Would make you Actually the last few months, people are exhausted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they anytime they see something about a

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dictatorship and not saying that's because that's not a bad

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thing to me. It's not like that because at a time,

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that's like someone making a piece of art and trying

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to show you, like look, look what's happening in front

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of your eyes, like you know in the movie, when you

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know all the people don't understand what's going on is

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happening right now, And that's also I don't know what's

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happening with the and or numbers and or is the

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same thing way Like that's that's like the Empire is

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like a lot of stuff that's going on for what's

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happening in our world right now where I could see

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someone watching them being like I don't want even though

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it's the Emperor, It's like I don't want to deal

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with like a dictatorship storyline about people's votes taken away

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or their freedom, like because people we have that conversation

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all the time, and we have for the past four

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or five years, and it's like people do want to escape.

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So I think that's the tough thing where it's a

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valiant effort to make this art right now, because you're

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trying to speak to people that maybe sometimes if they

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see a piece of art might be like, oh, you

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know what, I finally get it, or I see the

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writing on the wall now and you need something like

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that to go, oh that woke me up. But at

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the same time, there will be some people that, like

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I've said this before, like like that you guys, you

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and Taylor talked about a couple of weeks ago, but

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that editing trailer, and I've said this many times of discord,

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Like the second I heard was about oh, it's a

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small town during COVID, It's like, I will watch it

477
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because I already asked her about right away. I don't

478
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want to do that because I just like, and I'm

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completely being selfish because like I had it lucky. I

480
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lost no family members, if anyone got to say from

481
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COVID as every minor, it was more just the two

482
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years of that was very stressful, not even just life

483
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whiles just like just even Canada in general.

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Speaker 2: We just that election.

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Speaker 1: Canada i'd say has been like broken since then, because

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like that was like it was like everyone gone on

487
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two lines, and like people have almost stayed there since then. Right,

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So it's like I don't really want to reminisce about

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like that year or two that really kind of divided

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us in such a bad way. Work got so vitual,

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right like even with my work when people as jobs

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because I wouln't take a vaccine, that was like a

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that was not a good and I was in office

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that time.

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Speaker 2: That was not a good time to be there.

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Speaker 1: People were mad and pissed and I had to hear

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like all these conversations with bosses just saying like hey,

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I know it's off topic, but like hey, you gotta

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do this or you're gonna get let go.

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Speaker 2: This is not my decision as a company.

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Speaker 1: And whether it be people crying or people pissed off,

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and that's right for me. Anything with COVID I do

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not want to go back there right now. Maybe in

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ten years from now.

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Speaker 2: Sure I'll take that movie.

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Speaker 3: But I think I've been nostalgic for coaching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, but like the Good that's where I think

508
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a lot of stuff with political stuff. People see that.

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Speaker 1: Right now and like not I can take that because

510
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I'm usually into politics, like I watched on Stewart every or.

511
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I guess it's the day that you're like, I watched

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that every week, Like I follow that stuff. But I

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do understand if people are just beaten down by it,

514
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especially if you're on one side.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I just want to see the Vampire movie now.

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Speaker 1: Again, the Vampire movie has political stuff in there, but

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it's not previewed like that.

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Speaker 2: It's previewed as Michael B.

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Speaker 1: Jordan looking jacked with a Tommy gun taking it and

520
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Haley signed looking fine.

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Speaker 3: You know, Robert Pattison Vampire movie successful, gonna be Jordan

522
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Vampire movie successful, denominator.

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Speaker 2: That's what he needs to do.

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Speaker 1: He needs to get Rob Passon back in the Vampire realm.

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But uh, yeah, I know it's interesting. It's great that

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it's it's doing well, and I'm happy for it and

527
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hopefully that happens again. But again, there's dozens of original

528
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films that are great that also bomb. Right, we talked

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about the few weeks ago. I came remember the topic,

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but there's tons of movies that come out that people

531
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don't talk about that I know, make a couple of

532
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million of the box office and you never hear about

533
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him again, you know, lost this amount of money.

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Speaker 2: And then it's over. So mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: But thank you buy for the question because it was

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a it's a good thing to talk about. There and

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Detail says he says he's doing X Files next. Yeah,

538
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Cooler did say he's.

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Speaker 2: Doing X Files.

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Speaker 1: I don't like, I think he's gonna direct some episodes

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and be involved. I don't think he'll be doing I

542
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don't think he'll be writing every episode and evolved in

543
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every episode. If he is, I think it's gonna be

544
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like a mini like six to eight episodes. I know

545
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it sounds bad, but like that's what I think. But yeah,

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and I don't think he's really talked about much like

547
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he's It sounds like he's like for sure doing Black

548
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Panther three, because there's always that chance of like, oh,

549
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could he be like I don't want to do that,

550
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but I think it's kind of I feel like he

551
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is a big Nolan fanboy and he respects Nolan. I

552
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think he sees Nolan's career and Nolan did the same

553
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thing where he went after Dark Knight and made an

554
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inception that was huge for him, and then he finished

555
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off Rises and then he never touched superhero stuff again.

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Speaker 2: I think Coogler will be the same. Like all these

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people that are.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, James Gunn's gotta talk to him for something DC,

559
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which is a good transition. It's like, No, I don't

560
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think that's the case. I think he's gonna finish off

561
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Black Panther three. I think there's some sentiment there, and

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those people did help make his career and he's really

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tied with that cast. I think he's gonna do that,

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and then I don't think you'll see him do a

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single IP thing ever again. Like Nolan, Nolan said, no,

566
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I'm not doing superheroes. I'm not doing this, like he

567
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wants to do his own stuff. I think that's gonna

568
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be Coogler from now on. But I guess I'm wrong,

569
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because that's x files, is that x files is a

570
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IP so maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: I just be more in the uh, the feature film round.

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But maybe I'm wrong there.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's some remake that he wants to, you know,

574
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maybe he wants to I don't know, remake the Blob.

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I don't know, but sure anything.

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Speaker 2: Else on this, I guess.

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Speaker 3: Well, you got a couple of discord opinions on this

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to you and to bring up him, I said that,

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Oh okay, I.

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Speaker 1: Said that in the in the before I talked, So

581
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we're good there. I cover I cover them all, you know,

582
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don't got to go about Clay shit more on parasite,

583
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you know, like our MAKEE seventeen Clay jeez hot takes there.

584
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But you know, that's what I love Clay for. So

585
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uh and Clay also was one person that said he

586
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was very excited for this film, but maybe he's not

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going to see it.

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Speaker 2: U