Speaker 1: What's up y'all. My goodness, it's time for a little cringe.
Speaker 1: And Steph and I have had our own personal cringes
Speaker 1: in the last like twenty four hours we have. I mean,
Speaker 1: should we just say what's going on? Just the Stephanie
Speaker 1: broke her foot? Yes, I did, smashed shattered her same
Speaker 1: foot that she shattered before. Did they give you a prognosis,
Speaker 1: by the way, like how long it will take to heal?
Speaker 2: Well, they said it's going to be four to six weeks.
Speaker 2: It's not even going to start healing for I don't know,
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. The guy said, there's nothing to do.
Speaker 2: They have a boot on it. They gave me a
Speaker 2: hard bottomed shoe. I have a boot. Okay, before that
Speaker 2: makes me sound Canadian, the boot, I have a bit
Speaker 2: storry story. But yeah, the problem is I was just
Speaker 2: getting back to like going to the gym, you know,
Speaker 2: pretty often. Well then that went down again when I
Speaker 2: got a dog, but that then anyway, now it's gonna
Speaker 2: be like six to eight weeks. It's gonna be four
Speaker 2: to six weeks till I start feeling better, and six
Speaker 2: to eight weeks until it's really healing. But so last time,
Speaker 2: like fractured a foot. It took I was a very
Speaker 2: slow healer for some reason, which is just aggravating.
Speaker 1: Get them bumped up. I've got the same problem, little
Speaker 1: thin bones, and we just gotta gotta this life. You
Speaker 1: just try.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 1: Brittal leavett my sweet little guy. I had my little
Speaker 1: baby Monroe had a seizure last night and he hadn't
Speaker 1: for a little bit. I thought, well, are we just
Speaker 1: done with the seizures? But no, and it takes us.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have animals or chill
Speaker 1: or anybody that you know that hast he has Grandma.
Speaker 1: They last for a really long time, and then the
Speaker 1: post idyl they're called right after the sea is still
Speaker 1: part of the seizure. Is this last time was twelve hours?
Speaker 1: Twelve hours God of a round wandering and bumping into walls.
Speaker 1: So you can't just let him wander. You have to
Speaker 1: be on you have to be awake and next to
Speaker 1: him otherwise hurt himself because he's like in a k hole.
Speaker 1: Basically is how it was described. Well that's not how
Speaker 1: my vet described it. I relate it to a friend
Speaker 1: of mine who does a lot of drugs and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's like a k hole. I'm like, yeah, I guess,
Speaker 1: but not a fun k hole, right, not a good one.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we both had a time, but that does
Speaker 1: not stop us from wanting to come here and talk
Speaker 1: about like the cringiest of cringes, which I insist that
Speaker 1: we discuss right now.
Speaker 2: We're a day late.
Speaker 1: Not a dollar short, though I was just going to say,
Speaker 1: not a dollar short. Not a dollar short.
Speaker 2: No, because of mar go fundme that we did. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'd started to go fund me just because we're cute.
Speaker 2: We asked. We just asked for leftovers from James Vanderbeek's fun.
Speaker 2: We were like, listen, I know that you guys did
Speaker 2: not stop what you're doing and you're not done yet.
Speaker 2: But if you decide, hey, we're going to like cut
Speaker 2: this off, could you just give the rest to us.
Speaker 2: That's what we asked, and we like, I've done that time.
Speaker 2: I need it.
Speaker 1: I need from Monroe, you need it for your foot.
Speaker 1: Things are happening. And by the way, you see the
Speaker 1: Alissa Milano she popped in and she was trying to
Speaker 1: defend She's like, now she makes a point that a
Speaker 1: lot of people were making in the comments, which is like,
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, you don't know anyone's business
Speaker 1: unless it's your business. And I get that we don't
Speaker 1: know how much somebody has to pay in medical bills
Speaker 1: or what kind of debt they're in, Like we don't
Speaker 1: know their life, and so we're not judging that. But
Speaker 1: then she tried to say, like health insurance isn't what
Speaker 1: you'd think, and it's like okay, So somebody pushed back
Speaker 1: like maybe that's true for like one hundred thousand and
Speaker 1: SAG after members like my elf, me Cecily, I don't
Speaker 1: have a good you know, well I don't.
Speaker 2: I can't use SAG insurance because I don't make money
Speaker 2: as an actor, but I'm in SAG.
Speaker 1: But people were like, but that's not the case for
Speaker 1: Eric Dane. If you mean that SAG insurance isn't very
Speaker 1: good for most screen actors build members, I guess it's
Speaker 1: actually pretty good. But if you're saying that, it's like,
Speaker 1: but that's not the case for a for like a
Speaker 1: TV star, right, So that's a ridiculous, like ridiculous call.
Speaker 2: It's also just kind of elitist because it's like being
Speaker 2: out of touch with what regular people are dealing with.
Speaker 2: And our point, that's what people are a lot of
Speaker 2: regular people don't have health insurance at all.
Speaker 1: At all, and that they're the mercy of you know,
Speaker 1: medical or medica, k you know, whatever it is. And yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the they're like read the
Speaker 1: room girl, Oh my god, yeah god. But I also
Speaker 1: understand defending your friend and their family. And you know,
Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 2: But anyway, it's got our job to not know. Our
Speaker 2: job is to just make opinions based on whatever. That's
Speaker 2: our job, right, that's literally our job. Well today, our
Speaker 2: job is to talk. Okay, I can't hear you very well.
Speaker 2: I think your mic is very low. Really mhmm.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll say something else kind of goes under it
Speaker 1: goes underneath me.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It might be my headphones. Who knows, no blame here
Speaker 1: be me.
Speaker 2: Uh, it should be normal and I can hear it. Fine,
Speaker 2: So okay, let's not worry about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me get to this subject that I want
Speaker 1: to talk about, which is what happened at the BAFTAs
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I said, we're a day or so late
Speaker 1: on this, but uh, let me, guys, let me let
Speaker 1: me guys. Fill you in. Let me fill you in, guys.
Speaker 1: That's how I meant to say that. BAFTAs. You know,
Speaker 1: we're here, We are at the BAFTAs.
Speaker 2: And uh so the BAFTAs, for those who don't even know,
Speaker 2: are the British like Academy Award.
Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, exactly, They're a big deal in England in
Speaker 1: full guild.
Speaker 2: But then why do we have so many like British
Speaker 2: people in the regular Like then shouldn't they shouldn't they
Speaker 2: not win stuff for America? Shouldn't they just have their own?
Speaker 2: Or can Americans?
Speaker 1: I don't think the Americans can win daft does they
Speaker 1: went daft us all the time? Okay, oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not like it's only for this country. It's not like
Speaker 1: the Olympics and you have to be on you have
Speaker 1: to be American to be on the team whatever. Okay,
Speaker 1: which I still don't understand because someone said to me
Speaker 1: after the hockey thing and the guys were going crazy
Speaker 1: with our FBI director Cash Pattel in case you missed it,
Speaker 1: it was insane. But someone's like a lot of those
Speaker 1: hockey players on the American team or Canadian, and I
Speaker 1: thought you had to be American to be on the
Speaker 1: Olympic team. I thought that was the whole point. You
Speaker 1: can't just be on any Olympic team. I can't just
Speaker 1: go and be on like Greece's Olympic team. Not that
Speaker 1: I would have anything to do that for, but you
Speaker 1: can't just choose that, right, it's not your country of origin.
Speaker 2: But you're saying they can.
Speaker 1: You're saying you, Well, somebody told me that a bunch
Speaker 1: of them were Canadians, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, but I maybe you.
Speaker 2: Guys tell me could they be dual citizens? I guess
Speaker 2: because that would make sense because there was some like
Speaker 2: backlash against the one who the Chinese one who all
Speaker 2: is dual citizen and wanted to compete in for China.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I say, you get to choose if you
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're good, you want to play? Why not?
Speaker 2: Why are you saying?
Speaker 1: You know? But that was pretty nasty. I mean, the
Speaker 1: FBI director has, yes, so many things he should be
Speaker 1: doing right.
Speaker 2: Now, chucking my boy cash mm hmm. Now he's such
Speaker 2: a sweetie pie.
Speaker 1: Okay, go on, sorry, we're getting Okay, So here's what no,
Speaker 1: you don't need to be sorry. But at so, let
Speaker 1: me just set this up there at the bath does
Speaker 1: and let me just hold on because I have a
Speaker 1: couple of different stories up. So I want to I
Speaker 1: want to get like an older story that gives more,
Speaker 1: because now there's just so many stories. But basically, documentary
Speaker 1: was being discussed and rewarded and awarded about Tourette's syndrome
Speaker 1: about a man who suffers or lives with Tourette's and syndrome,
Speaker 1: this guy named John Davidson. Okay, okay, and I'm just
Speaker 1: going to say that his life story inspired a movie
Speaker 1: called I Swear. Okay, So Sinners stars because you have
Speaker 1: different people just coming out, and Sinners is a big
Speaker 1: deal right now. In the movie, Sinners stars Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan and Delroy Lindo, who both happened to be black men. Okay,
Speaker 1: they were presenting the prize. This the first prize for
Speaker 1: Sunday's Ceremony, And I don't know for sure if that
Speaker 1: was the prize for this actual film that was being
Speaker 1: nominated for just the first prize. Okay, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: of that because I didn't watch it. Okay, However, so
Speaker 1: John was in the room. He has trutts and in
Speaker 1: the back back of the room he shouted the N
Speaker 1: word three times and you could hear it. It was audible,
Speaker 1: and you could see their faces and they weren't thrilled
Speaker 1: about it, as as.
Speaker 2: Anybody would be. Anybody would be like, whoa, what the fuck? Okay,
Speaker 2: did they know he was going on at the time?
Speaker 2: The presenters, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that
Speaker 2: they knew it was John at the time. I don't
Speaker 2: know that they knew him, Okay, So they just thought
Speaker 2: some some random person was screaming the N word at them.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't that I
Speaker 1: really don't know. But it does get so much worse,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Oh for sure. And I
Speaker 1: know they were upset about it, you could see it
Speaker 1: on their faces, as anyone would be. But what had
Speaker 1: happened was, well, this all aired, I mean everybody had
Speaker 1: aired and went out to Americans and went to everywhere,
Speaker 1: and then we found out after the fact that it
Speaker 1: wasn't live. We could have totally been edited.
Speaker 2: They edited some political speech out from a people, which
Speaker 2: I'm fine with them editing, but they didn't edit this
Speaker 2: and that is absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1: So now I'm going to get to some more details.
Speaker 1: But there's two divide. There's two big party, two big
Speaker 1: groups of people that are very upset. On one hand,
Speaker 1: you understandably have people of color that are like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe that this is just okay
Speaker 1: and that they can just shout at the N word.
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, you have people that
Speaker 1: are advocates of tourettes or people that have tourettes that
Speaker 1: are trying to say it is never intentional. That is
Speaker 1: literally what Tourette's is. If you have this kind of
Speaker 1: verbal tick and there's nothing that you can do about it,
Speaker 1: and so they're trying to explain that to people, and
Speaker 1: some people are just like absolutely not having it. So
Speaker 1: it's a tough one, right because you're like, on one hand,
Speaker 1: you'll scream. One side is screaming you're racist if you
Speaker 1: think that this is okay, and the other side is
Speaker 1: saying you're ablest if you think that there should be
Speaker 1: an apology. Now, personally, I think there should be a
Speaker 1: pology from the BAFTAs.
Speaker 2: Yes, And what about the guy who said it, John Davidson.
Speaker 1: He's come out eventually, At first he didn't really apologize,
Speaker 1: and then he just said, let me find his actual words,
Speaker 1: because he did. He did say he was mortified. Basically,
Speaker 1: he was very mortified that anybody would think that this
Speaker 1: was intentional. So the BBC, who aired the BAFTAs, they
Speaker 1: have now apologized for broadcasting the slur. So I assume
Speaker 1: they caught that. Let me see where else because there's
Speaker 1: so many articles. He said it like a couple times,
Speaker 1: by the way, like I said, yeah, so it's really
Speaker 1: really interesting. Before we go on to that story, should
Speaker 1: I tell you my should I remind people of my
Speaker 1: interaction with something very similar to this. Sure, so, I
Speaker 1: think we did a whole show about it, but it
Speaker 1: might have just been on Patreon, but I think we
Speaker 1: did it on a regular show. This is like a
Speaker 1: year or so ago. I went to see musical at
Speaker 1: a high school. My friend worked at the high school
Speaker 1: and was like, do you want to go see Little
Speaker 1: Shop of Horrors done by high school students? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you fucking bet you know how much I want that. Yes,
Speaker 1: That's there's nothing I'd rather do for real, So I'm
Speaker 1: very excited. They have They made cookies and they had
Speaker 1: little you know, playbills, and I was just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is everything. And we sit and a
Speaker 1: couple weird things are happening, setting the stage of a
Speaker 1: very like tense like they had headsets, but their headsets
Speaker 1: kept popping, so it sounded like gunshots constantly. It was
Speaker 1: like really loud, and it was really unnerving to me specifically,
Speaker 1: but no one really seemed to love that, so they
Speaker 1: couldn't fix that. But then this young woman, I assumed
Speaker 1: she was in high school and she seemed to have
Speaker 1: had dureats, started yelling things. And I don't remember exactly,
Speaker 1: but I do think she said the N word. I
Speaker 1: actually do. I'm almost positive. I'll have to ask Chip
Speaker 1: about that, but she definitely started yelling, I'm going to
Speaker 1: kill everyone. I have a gun, I'm going to kill everyone.
Speaker 1: Then she stood up, went to the corner of the room,
Speaker 1: covered her ears, and screamed as loud as possible and
Speaker 1: did that probably about five times. Then would come back.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: My take on it was, and I got into a
Speaker 1: few arguments about it, was that if this is what
Speaker 1: you are dealing with, that perhaps live theater isn't for you.
Speaker 1: Perhaps that's not because I as a theater child was like,
Speaker 1: that's not fair to the kids on stage, that's not
Speaker 1: fair to the people in that audience. Like I think
Speaker 1: that maybe there's just other things that you can do
Speaker 1: and this isn't one of them. Maybe you can go
Speaker 1: to a football game where it's really super loud and
Speaker 1: you can scream, but not this. And that really was
Speaker 1: my take, which is the take of half of the
Speaker 1: people on this Baptist situation saying listen, you know, we
Speaker 1: appreciate we'd want to learn about this, but like maybe
Speaker 1: in a high stress like cooker, like pressure cooker situation,
Speaker 1: this person who has this particular kind of vocal tick
Speaker 1: where they say the thing you're not supposed to say,
Speaker 1: maybe they shouldn't be at a live or like at
Speaker 1: an event, and the very least the Baptist should have
Speaker 1: nipped it.
Speaker 2: Well that we're taking it out. Yeah, I'm very surprised. Now,
Speaker 2: why was that this guy was a presenter? John Davidson,
Speaker 2: he was He wasn't a presenter. He was in the audience.
Speaker 2: He was just in the audience because he was up
Speaker 2: for winning something. Yes, so you're saying he shouldn't be
Speaker 2: even allowed to be in the audience.
Speaker 1: If he has. If he says the N word and
Speaker 1: other things like that in high stress situations and has
Speaker 1: screamed those kind of things out, maybe there's another maybe
Speaker 1: he can go into, like the control room. Maybe he
Speaker 1: can watch from backstage in a green room. It's not
Speaker 1: like he's going to storm the stage. It's not like
Speaker 1: he's a bad guy or in no way I am.
Speaker 1: I'm very supportive of this guy. I feel really awful
Speaker 1: for him and the way that the Internet has come
Speaker 1: down on him. But I also think these things have
Speaker 1: to be handled better. Maybe you don't stick him in
Speaker 1: the audience, like if he can't not do that right.
Speaker 1: So it says the BBC apologizes to staff over N
Speaker 1: word inclusion as bad have to announces a comprehensive review.
Speaker 1: So BAFTAs they're taking a look at it Center's studio.
Speaker 1: I guess that whatever studio did. They say that they
Speaker 1: raised N word use with BAFTA immediately as Google, I
Speaker 1: don't understand what this means. Deeply sorry for offensive notification.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. BBC producers say they didn't
Speaker 1: hear the N word slur as they were working in
Speaker 1: a truck, so they were like in video village and
Speaker 1: say they didn't hear it.
Speaker 2: Possible, so they weren't in the room, so they weren't
Speaker 2: picking up like room No.
Speaker 1: I mean I heard it, and I heard it, saw
Speaker 1: the clip, but they really picking up like what was
Speaker 1: happening in people's microphones maybe right exactly, So they didn't
Speaker 1: hear even what the audience heard. That's exactly right, right,
Speaker 1: they were only picking up what was yeah, through video village.
Speaker 2: That's a hard one. But then but they they got
Speaker 2: free Palestine out of there. They did what was that
Speaker 2: said by a presenter or did somebody just in the
Speaker 2: audience yell back?
Speaker 1: And I'm sure it was probably I would assume it
Speaker 1: was a winner of something, somebody that took the stage
Speaker 1: and had a speech.
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's why they stick that out because they
Speaker 2: heard it right exactly. It wasn't coming from the audience,
Speaker 2: now right, This was coming through the audience. So that's
Speaker 2: a tricky situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because oh here's Sue said it. The director at
Speaker 1: Canallo Davis Junior's speech. So I don't know what he
Speaker 1: won for, but he yelled free Palestine and they heard
Speaker 1: that because he was on stage giving a speech, right,
Speaker 1: and they took that out.
Speaker 2: So I don't think that that's like a purposeful thing.
Speaker 2: I don't think they were like, well, we we were
Speaker 2: more in favor of free Palestine and we don't really
Speaker 2: care about the N word. It sounds to me like
Speaker 2: that's actually nobody's fault, right, right, And then here's the problem. Okay,
Speaker 2: So if you want to say, like, hey, people with
Speaker 2: tourette stay home, how do you how do you enforce that?
Speaker 2: Like do you just go like, hey, on your honor, guys,
Speaker 2: if you have Tourette's and you might yell the inWORD out, like,
Speaker 2: don't come here because you can't you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like once he's very sware. Here, here's what it says
Speaker 2: on the Guardian be awful to go, Hey, we know
Speaker 2: you you're up for this award, but we can't allow
Speaker 2: you because you might yell something inappropriate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you think that that high school
Speaker 1: kids should have been in the audience yelling I have
Speaker 1: a gun, I'm going to kill you all and then
Speaker 1: screening every five minutes in the corner. Should that be?
Speaker 1: Is that acceptable? Like to me, it is absolutely unacceptable.
Speaker 1: There's just no question, Like I'm gonna Larry david this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like no way, like absolutely not, and the theaters what
Speaker 2: I'm asking. But the problem is I'm just saying from
Speaker 2: a like human rights perspective, like from a yes, everybody's
Speaker 2: comfort perspective, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you are, how you go people with Tourette syndrome
Speaker 2: are not welcome at shows? How do you do that?
Speaker 1: I mean you could do that with anything like here
Speaker 1: for example, says in The Guardian, what could have been
Speaker 1: done question Mark? Well, Davidson himself. They're saying could make that,
Speaker 1: could have made the decision to leave the event, which
Speaker 1: I don't know if he did or not. Perhaps there
Speaker 1: could have been a conversation in advance about him attending
Speaker 1: only a chosen part of the ceremony, right the part
Speaker 1: where he was up for the award, and about what
Speaker 1: the risks were, and surely no one was better informed
Speaker 1: about those risks than Davidson himself. The BBC should have
Speaker 1: cut the offending language. But as we just talked about,
Speaker 1: they say they didn't hear it because they were in
Speaker 1: video village, right. But it says back to the BBC
Speaker 1: and everyone else has got to stop using these words,
Speaker 1: the words of quasi apology. From the stage, we heard
Speaker 1: the dread phrase phrase, we apologize if you are offended tonight.
Speaker 1: So I guess someone said that if you were offended.
Speaker 1: So people are mad about that because a lot of
Speaker 1: people were. Oh, I think Alan Cumming he was the host,
Speaker 1: and he said at some point he said, we are
Speaker 1: asking for a respectful space for everyone. So it was
Speaker 1: so crazy that he had to actually say something about it. Damn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a it's it's a heart it's a
Speaker 2: tough one. It's a tough one because you know, yes,
Speaker 2: of course I'm not saying knee jerk reaction, but it's
Speaker 2: horrible and offensive and hurting people that are just there
Speaker 2: to get their damn awards. On the other hand, how
Speaker 2: do you just go like that's it, that's offensive. You
Speaker 2: could you might end up being offensive tonight, so you
Speaker 2: can't come.
Speaker 1: It is other things you say. You either tell the
Speaker 1: present every presenter listen. We do have tourettes is on
Speaker 1: the table like this documentary is, you know, so we
Speaker 1: do have people here from in that situation, so words
Speaker 1: could be said, so let's talk about it, and that
Speaker 1: didn't happen. They could have had him just come in
Speaker 1: for his segment, not for the entire show, right, but reasonable.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm asking? Do you do you
Speaker 2: know where I'm coming from. I'm saying, so, okay, who's
Speaker 2: they bafta the p of the producers? So the producers
Speaker 2: would take him aside, John Davidson aside and say, hey, uh,
Speaker 2: we don't know if we're going to let you be
Speaker 2: here tonight in the audience because you have tourettes and
Speaker 2: you could say something offensive, well, yeah, or at least
Speaker 2: have a conversation. What do you think?
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it any more than anybody else, Like
Speaker 1: he's he's mortified. You know, it's not easy, but he's
Speaker 1: going through is terrible as well. And I don't think
Speaker 1: he wants to necessarily be in that situation either, I.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, Like if he did, if he
Speaker 2: was worried that he was going to say the N word,
Speaker 2: then that would have been something he I'm not saying
Speaker 2: he wasn't, But then wouldn't that have been on him?
Speaker 2: As you're saying to go like, yeah, I probably shouldn't come, Yes,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I don't. I guess it's just I think
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: She's so exad about it. He's he says, now he's
Speaker 1: spoken out, and he said he's deeply mortified if anyone
Speaker 1: considers my involuntary ticks be intentional or to carry any meaning.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people online are going, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: watch the documentary and you'll understand, which people are like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we do understand. But it's still a terrible position to
Speaker 1: put two black men on stage to be hurled the
Speaker 1: N word at. You know, I get I get both sides,
Speaker 1: I really really do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's the whole point of covering this
Speaker 2: is like to to think about both sides. You know.
Speaker 2: But what if let me pose this to you really quick,
Speaker 2: let me pose this to you. What if okay, now
Speaker 2: this is going to be a conspiracy theory. What if
Speaker 2: the whole thing is a setup to bring attention.
Speaker 1: Some people take the threats there are totally really I think,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Tons of people they're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so now everybody's going to watch the documentary, right, I
Speaker 1: don't think that.
Speaker 2: I well, now I want to watch it.
Speaker 1: I mean I want to watch it anyway to support
Speaker 1: but by the way, we missed this. He also Davidson
Speaker 1: also praised the BAFTA organizers for notifying the audience about
Speaker 1: his pick beforehand and clarifying that they don't reflect his
Speaker 1: personal beliefs. So they did do something.
Speaker 2: So they did the thing that you asked them to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's weird that the Guardian and Sky News
Speaker 1: have two totally different accounts of what happened. But he said, quote,
Speaker 1: I was heartened by the round of applause that followed
Speaker 1: the announcement, and I felt welcomed and understood an environment
Speaker 1: that would normally be impossible for me. Okay, that's great.
Speaker 2: And then what if after he yelled out the N word,
Speaker 2: he just got a round of applause, and then everybody
Speaker 2: gets mad and the people are like, oh no, that's
Speaker 2: not we were not applauding the word.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, stop.
Speaker 2: And then he just keeps saying every word.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's okay, so it says the host ellen
Speaker 1: Coming subsequently did acknowledge the interruption and explained again about
Speaker 1: Taurette's in a statement. Baptist said that the slur was
Speaker 1: a source of incomparable trauma and pain for so many
Speaker 1: and they were so sorry for putting their guests in
Speaker 1: a very difficult situation. And yeah, I mean, but if
Speaker 1: you see the fighting on Twitter and threads like oh
Speaker 1: my god, like nobody's coming to get there here, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of beautiful people have
Speaker 1: been real quick to throw us Jew's astray. They're like,
Speaker 1: if it was do it, if they said the K word,
Speaker 1: I guarantee that wouldn't be on there, Like yeah, would
Speaker 1: I want you know what I mean, yes, if they
Speaker 1: didn't hear it in the video village, they're going to
Speaker 1: hear that either from the audience.
Speaker 2: Well, that is crazy to know what I mean. First
Speaker 2: of all, the N word is worse than the K word.
Speaker 2: I mean to most people, they'd be they'd absolutely if
Speaker 2: they were going to say something to either way.
Speaker 1: I agree, pretty you same, They're pretty the same to me.
Speaker 2: Your point is that they wouldn't have stopped that because
Speaker 2: people are more accepting of that, is what I'm saying
Speaker 2: exactly exactly. Nobody would be like, oh my god they
Speaker 2: said that. They'd be like, well yes, dreads, or they'd
Speaker 2: be like what's that? Yeah, So I don't understand, like
Speaker 2: why and any excuse to like throw the Jew down
Speaker 2: the well.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know either. It's really and
Speaker 1: it happened really quickly, and I mean, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: say just to save your sanity, like don't look, because
Speaker 1: it's really bad. And it's like thousands of people are
Speaker 1: saying the same thing if this were a Jew, probably
Speaker 1: the Jews, and they're like, well, why did we catch
Speaker 1: astray on this one? That's nothing, like give me a break.
Speaker 1: That's just crazy. So this was a really tricky sitch.
Speaker 1: I feel for everyone, and I feel for anybody that
Speaker 1: you know, had to.
Speaker 2: Hear the word.
Speaker 1: It's terrible, and especially in a situation like that. And
Speaker 1: I really feel for this guy who's like I knew
Speaker 1: a guy in high school. He had really bad charettes.
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's a certain type of chrettes. It
Speaker 1: starts with a C. I'm sorry. You guys probably know it.
Speaker 1: And it's those kind of vocal ticks. There's like some
Speaker 1: that are just vocal ticks where you don't say words,
Speaker 1: you just kind of grunt or whatever. And sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just facial ticks. But sometimes it's like they say, you know,
Speaker 1: the ones where they just say all the things. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's nonsensical. But a lot of times it's like the
Speaker 1: thing you're not which all ticks are all it is.
Speaker 1: It's threats. It's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part of it's a syndrome, and it's a
Speaker 2: it's like eight years old, yeah, yeah, or younger, but
Speaker 2: we might not have noticed it. But yeah, my kids Xander.
Speaker 1: Oh, Xander has so what are the like, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He it's he does. He does like hard blinks. He
Speaker 2: has not had vocal tics, so there's a bit different. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well it's all under the Tourette's umbrella. It's just not
Speaker 2: vocal tics. It's physical tics, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Right, So the the vocal tics. There was a guy
Speaker 1: I went to high school with. He had the vocal tics,
Speaker 1: and he would say pretty crazy things in the middle
Speaker 1: of math class, and you know, it was a little
Speaker 1: bit it was a little bit of a more accepting
Speaker 1: because it was a performing art. It's high school, you know,
Speaker 1: so it was sort of like, that's just John.
Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this, because you were telling
Speaker 2: me this before we got on the air. So some
Speaker 2: people are saying that part of the tick is saying
Speaker 2: the thing that you're most like nervous about saying it's yes,
Speaker 2: because some people might be going like, well, maybe the
Speaker 2: tick is like stuff that you'd want to say, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like it's like being drunk. Oh no, oh,
Speaker 2: you actually kind of mean that and it just comes
Speaker 2: out when your tick comes out. But but you've read
Speaker 2: that that's not the case. That it's like no, absolutely,
Speaker 2: it's the worst thing you could say.
Speaker 1: Your brain makes you say it, and you're the OCD.
Speaker 1: You have it. Torett's is part of an OCD, so
Speaker 1: you really can't even you can't control it. It's completely involuntary.
Speaker 1: So you get to this part where you're thinking about
Speaker 1: don't say this word. Don't say this word until you
Speaker 1: have to say the word like an explosion of anxiety,
Speaker 1: and you say it. It's the thing your brain just
Speaker 1: literally makes you say it. So it's and some people
Speaker 1: are arguing, they're like, well, why would you even know
Speaker 1: that word? Everybody knows that anybody was listened to like
Speaker 1: a rap song or like seeing watched a Tarantino move.
Speaker 1: I mean that's crazy, Like that's crazy.
Speaker 3: The type of Tretts is called copro co copper little
Speaker 3: co o p r O l A l I A
Speaker 3: that's how that's spelled.
Speaker 1: And it's really hard. The guy that I knew that
Speaker 1: had it in high school, things didn't work out for him.
Speaker 1: It was really awful. His life was really awful and
Speaker 1: it ended really early. And yeah, no, I mean it
Speaker 1: was like he tried to hide a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: he tried to push it down with drugs, or at
Speaker 1: least if he was doing a bunch of drugs, he
Speaker 1: could be like that's why I'm saying these weird crazy
Speaker 1: like at a certain point it was so outrageous that
Speaker 1: he just couldn't take it.
Speaker 2: You know. That's really sad.
Speaker 1: It is really sad, and that's certainly not the case.
Speaker 1: And I know other people that have tourettes. I don't
Speaker 1: know anybody that I can think of that has it
Speaker 1: the vocal ones, but more like what Xander has, like
Speaker 1: body you know, face tics, facial ticks and stuff, and
Speaker 1: they live a perfectly wonderful life with partners and job.
Speaker 1: You know, nothing's changed for them. Like I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people that have the blinking one for sure,
Speaker 1: and it's usually not the case, but it definitely should
Speaker 1: be talked about more. I mean, I think that's this
Speaker 1: documentary is so important and it sucks that's how it
Speaker 1: went down. But maybe maybe they did do it on purpose. No,
Speaker 1: then then that would make this guy a total dick,
Speaker 1: and I don't think he is. Yeah, anyway, guys, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you? Yeah, what do y'all think? Like,
Speaker 2: whose side are you on?
Speaker 1: Mine?
Speaker 2: Like a devil?
Speaker 1: Mine or the devil or God or Jesus or the
Speaker 1: Buddha or bafta or I mean, I think there's a
Speaker 1: world in which you can be on the side of
Speaker 1: everyone involved and just say, like we can just we
Speaker 1: just need to do better. But just don't look at
Speaker 1: Twitter serious, Yeah, I would yea, Threads is becoming worse
Speaker 1: than Twitter. It's a little bit smarter, like it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more focused, but pretty mean, pretty terrible. And again,
Speaker 1: like God, the anti Semitism coming at us. Just from that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well what yeh, all right, everybody, all right,
Speaker 1: thanks for being here, thanks for listening, tell us what
Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, rest
Speaker 2: Bye bye