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<v Speaker 1>What's up y'all. My goodness, it's time for a little cringe.

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<v Speaker 1>And Steph and I have had our own personal cringes

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<v Speaker 1>in the last like twenty four hours we have. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>should we just say what's going on? Just the Stephanie

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<v Speaker 1>broke her foot? Yes, I did, smashed shattered her same

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<v Speaker 1>foot that she shattered before. Did they give you a prognosis,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, like how long it will take to heal?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they said it's going to be four to six weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even going to start healing for I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks. The guy said, there's nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a boot on it. They gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>hard bottomed shoe. I have a boot. Okay, before that

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<v Speaker 2>makes me sound Canadian, the boot, I have a bit

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<v Speaker 2>storry story. But yeah, the problem is I was just

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<v Speaker 2>getting back to like going to the gym, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty often. Well then that went down again when I

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<v Speaker 2>got a dog, but that then anyway, now it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be like six to eight weeks. It's gonna be four

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<v Speaker 2>to six weeks till I start feeling better, and six

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<v Speaker 2>to eight weeks until it's really healing. But so last time,

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<v Speaker 2>like fractured a foot. It took I was a very

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<v Speaker 2>slow healer for some reason, which is just aggravating.

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<v Speaker 1>Get them bumped up. I've got the same problem, little

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<v Speaker 1>thin bones, and we just gotta gotta this life. You

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<v Speaker 1>just try.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a.

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<v Speaker 1>Brittal leavett my sweet little guy. I had my little

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<v Speaker 1>baby Monroe had a seizure last night and he hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. I thought, well, are we just

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<v Speaker 1>done with the seizures? But no, and it takes us.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys have animals or chill

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<v Speaker 1>or anybody that you know that hast he has Grandma.

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<v Speaker 1>They last for a really long time, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>post idyl they're called right after the sea is still

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<v Speaker 1>part of the seizure. Is this last time was twelve hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve hours God of a round wandering and bumping into walls.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't just let him wander. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>be on you have to be awake and next to

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<v Speaker 1>him otherwise hurt himself because he's like in a k hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically is how it was described. Well that's not how

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<v Speaker 1>my vet described it. I relate it to a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine who does a lot of drugs and he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a k hole. I'm like, yeah, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>but not a fun k hole, right, not a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we both had a time, but that does

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<v Speaker 1>not stop us from wanting to come here and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about like the cringiest of cringes, which I insist that

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<v Speaker 1>we discuss right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a day late.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a dollar short, though I was just going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>not a dollar short. Not a dollar short.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because of mar go fundme that we did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd started to go fund me just because we're cute.

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<v Speaker 2>We asked. We just asked for leftovers from James Vanderbeek's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We were like, listen, I know that you guys did

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<v Speaker 2>not stop what you're doing and you're not done yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you decide, hey, we're going to like cut

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<v Speaker 2>this off, could you just give the rest to us.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we asked, and we like, I've done that time.

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<v Speaker 2>I need it.

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<v Speaker 1>I need from Monroe, you need it for your foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are happening. And by the way, you see the

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<v Speaker 1>Alissa Milano she popped in and she was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>defend She's like, now she makes a point that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people were making in the comments, which is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, first of all, you don't know anyone's business

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<v Speaker 1>unless it's your business. And I get that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how much somebody has to pay in medical bills

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<v Speaker 1>or what kind of debt they're in, Like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know their life, and so we're not judging that. But

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<v Speaker 1>then she tried to say, like health insurance isn't what

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<v Speaker 1>you'd think, and it's like okay, So somebody pushed back

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe that's true for like one hundred thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>SAG after members like my elf, me Cecily, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a good you know, well I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't use SAG insurance because I don't make money

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<v Speaker 2>as an actor, but I'm in SAG.

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<v Speaker 1>But people were like, but that's not the case for

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Dane. If you mean that SAG insurance isn't very

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<v Speaker 1>good for most screen actors build members, I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually pretty good. But if you're saying that, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not the case for a for like a

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<v Speaker 1>TV star, right, So that's a ridiculous, like ridiculous call.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also just kind of elitist because it's like being

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<v Speaker 2>out of touch with what regular people are dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>And our point, that's what people are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>regular people don't have health insurance at all.

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<v Speaker 1>At all, and that they're the mercy of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>medical or medica, k you know, whatever it is. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in the they're like read the

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<v Speaker 1>room girl, Oh my god, yeah god. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>understand defending your friend and their family. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, it's got our job to not know. Our

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<v Speaker 2>job is to just make opinions based on whatever. That's

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<v Speaker 2>our job, right, that's literally our job. Well today, our

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<v Speaker 2>job is to talk. Okay, I can't hear you very well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think your mic is very low. Really mhmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you'll say something else kind of goes under it

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<v Speaker 1>goes underneath me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be my headphones. Who knows, no blame here

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<v Speaker 1>be me.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, it should be normal and I can hear it. Fine,

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, let's not worry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me get to this subject that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, which is what happened at the BAFTAs

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. I said, we're a day or so late

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<v Speaker 1>on this, but uh, let me, guys, let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me guys. Fill you in. Let me fill you in, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I meant to say that. BAFTAs. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're here, We are at the BAFTAs.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh so the BAFTAs, for those who don't even know,

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<v Speaker 2>are the British like Academy Award.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, yeah, exactly, They're a big deal in England in

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<v Speaker 1>full guild.

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<v Speaker 2>But then why do we have so many like British

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<v Speaker 2>people in the regular Like then shouldn't they shouldn't they

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<v Speaker 2>not win stuff for America? Shouldn't they just have their own?

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<v Speaker 2>Or can Americans?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the Americans can win daft does they

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<v Speaker 1>went daft us all the time? Okay, oh yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's only for this country. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympics and you have to be on you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be American to be on the team whatever. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>which I still don't understand because someone said to me

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<v Speaker 1>after the hockey thing and the guys were going crazy

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<v Speaker 1>with our FBI director Cash Pattel in case you missed it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was insane. But someone's like a lot of those

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<v Speaker 1>hockey players on the American team or Canadian, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you had to be American to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic team. I thought that was the whole point. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't just be on any Olympic team. I can't just

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<v Speaker 1>go and be on like Greece's Olympic team. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>I would have anything to do that for, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just choose that, right, it's not your country of origin.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're saying they can.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying you, Well, somebody told me that a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of them were Canadians, and I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so, but I maybe you.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys tell me could they be dual citizens? I guess

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<v Speaker 2>because that would make sense because there was some like

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<v Speaker 2>backlash against the one who the Chinese one who all

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<v Speaker 2>is dual citizen and wanted to compete in for China.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I say, you get to choose if you

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're good, you want to play? Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? But that was pretty nasty. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI director has, yes, so many things he should be

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<v Speaker 1>doing right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, chucking my boy cash mm hmm. Now he's such

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<v Speaker 2>a sweetie pie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, go on, sorry, we're getting Okay, So here's what no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to be sorry. But at so, let

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<v Speaker 1>me just set this up there at the bath does

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<v Speaker 1>and let me just hold on because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different stories up. So I want to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get like an older story that gives more,

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<v Speaker 1>because now there's just so many stories. But basically, documentary

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<v Speaker 1>was being discussed and rewarded and awarded about Tourette's syndrome

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<v Speaker 1>about a man who suffers or lives with Tourette's and syndrome,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy named John Davidson. Okay, okay, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to say that his life story inspired a movie

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<v Speaker 1>called I Swear. Okay, So Sinners stars because you have

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<v Speaker 1>different people just coming out, and Sinners is a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal right now. In the movie, Sinners stars Michael B.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan and Delroy Lindo, who both happened to be black men. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they were presenting the prize. This the first prize for

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday's Ceremony, And I don't know for sure if that

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<v Speaker 1>was the prize for this actual film that was being

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<v Speaker 1>nominated for just the first prize. Okay, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>of that because I didn't watch it. Okay, However, so

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<v Speaker 1>John was in the room. He has trutts and in

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<v Speaker 1>the back back of the room he shouted the N

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<v Speaker 1>word three times and you could hear it. It was audible,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could see their faces and they weren't thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>about it, as as.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody would be. Anybody would be like, whoa, what the fuck? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>did they know he was going on at the time?

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<v Speaker 2>The presenters, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>they knew it was John at the time. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that they knew him, Okay, So they just thought

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<v Speaker 2>some some random person was screaming the N word at them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. I don't that I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't know. But it does get so much worse,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Oh for sure. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know they were upset about it, you could see it

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<v Speaker 1>on their faces, as anyone would be. But what had

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<v Speaker 1>happened was, well, this all aired, I mean everybody had

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<v Speaker 1>aired and went out to Americans and went to everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we found out after the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't live. We could have totally been edited.

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<v Speaker 2>They edited some political speech out from a people, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine with them editing, but they didn't edit this

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<v Speaker 2>and that is absolutely crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So now I'm going to get to some more details.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's two divide. There's two big party, two big

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<v Speaker 1>groups of people that are very upset. On one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>you understandably have people of color that are like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I can't believe that this is just okay

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<v Speaker 1>and that they can just shout at the N word.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on the other side, you have people that

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<v Speaker 1>are advocates of tourettes or people that have tourettes that

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to say it is never intentional. That is

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<v Speaker 1>literally what Tourette's is. If you have this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>verbal tick and there's nothing that you can do about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they're trying to explain that to people, and

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<v Speaker 1>some people are just like absolutely not having it. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough one, right because you're like, on one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll scream. One side is screaming you're racist if you

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<v Speaker 1>saying you're ablest if you think that there should be

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<v Speaker 1>an apology. Now, personally, I think there should be a

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And what about the guy who said it, John Davidson.

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<v Speaker 1>He's come out eventually, At first he didn't really apologize,

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<v Speaker 1>he was very mortified that anybody would think that this

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<v Speaker 1>was intentional. So the BBC, who aired the BAFTAs, they

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<v Speaker 1>have now apologized for broadcasting the slur. So I assume

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<v Speaker 1>they caught that. Let me see where else because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many articles. He said it like a couple times,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, like I said, yeah, so it's really

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting. Before we go on to that story, should

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you my should I remind people of my

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<v Speaker 1>interaction with something very similar to this. Sure, so, I

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<v Speaker 1>did it on a regular show. This is like a

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<v Speaker 1>year or so ago. I went to see musical at

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<v Speaker 1>and was like, do you want to go see Little

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<v Speaker 1>Shop of Horrors done by high school students? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>very excited. They have They made cookies and they had

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<v Speaker 1>my god, this is everything. And we sit and a

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<v Speaker 1>but no one really seemed to love that, so they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't fix that. But then this young woman, I assumed

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think she said the N word. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually do. I'm almost positive. I'll have to ask Chip

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<v Speaker 1>Then she stood up, went to the corner of the room,

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>My take on it was, and I got into a

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<v Speaker 1>few arguments about it, was that if this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you are dealing with, that perhaps live theater isn't for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps that's not because I as a theater child was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not fair to the kids on stage, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>fair to the people in that audience. Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe there's just other things that you can do

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<v Speaker 1>and this isn't one of them. Maybe you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to a football game where it's really super loud and

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<v Speaker 1>you can scream, but not this. And that really was

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<v Speaker 1>my take, which is the take of half of the

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<v Speaker 1>people on this Baptist situation saying listen, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate we'd want to learn about this, but like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in a high stress like cooker, like pressure cooker situation,

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<v Speaker 1>where they say the thing you're not supposed to say,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they shouldn't be at a live or like at

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<v Speaker 1>an event, and the very least the Baptist should have

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<v Speaker 1>nipped it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that we're taking it out. Yeah, I'm very surprised. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>why was that this guy was a presenter? John Davidson,

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<v Speaker 2>he was He wasn't a presenter. He was in the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just in the audience because he was up

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<v Speaker 2>for winning something. Yes, so you're saying he shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>even allowed to be in the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>If he has. If he says the N word and

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<v Speaker 1>other things like that in high stress situations and has

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<v Speaker 1>screamed those kind of things out, maybe there's another maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he can go into, like the control room. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>can watch from backstage in a green room. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like he's going to storm the stage. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he's a bad guy or in no way I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very supportive of this guy. I feel really awful

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<v Speaker 1>for him and the way that the Internet has come

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<v Speaker 1>down on him. But I also think these things have

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<v Speaker 1>to be handled better. Maybe you don't stick him in

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<v Speaker 1>the audience, like if he can't not do that right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it says the BBC apologizes to staff over N

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<v Speaker 1>word inclusion as bad have to announces a comprehensive review.

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<v Speaker 1>So BAFTAs they're taking a look at it Center's studio.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that whatever studio did. They say that they

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<v Speaker 1>raised N word use with BAFTA immediately as Google, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand what this means. Deeply sorry for offensive notification.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make any sense. BBC producers say they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear the N word slur as they were working in

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<v Speaker 1>a truck, so they were like in video village and

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<v Speaker 1>say they didn't hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Possible, so they weren't in the room, so they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>picking up like room No.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I heard it, and I heard it, saw

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<v Speaker 1>the clip, but they really picking up like what was

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<v Speaker 1>happening in people's microphones maybe right exactly, So they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear even what the audience heard. That's exactly right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they were only picking up what was yeah, through video village.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a hard one. But then but they they got

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<v Speaker 2>free Palestine out of there. They did what was that

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<v Speaker 2>said by a presenter or did somebody just in the

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<v Speaker 2>audience yell back?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure it was probably I would assume it

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<v Speaker 1>was a winner of something, somebody that took the stage

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<v Speaker 1>and had a speech.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's why they stick that out because they

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<v Speaker 2>heard it right exactly. It wasn't coming from the audience,

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<v Speaker 2>now right, This was coming through the audience. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a tricky situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because oh here's Sue said it. The director at

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<v Speaker 1>Canallo Davis Junior's speech. So I don't know what he

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<v Speaker 1>won for, but he yelled free Palestine and they heard

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<v Speaker 1>that because he was on stage giving a speech, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they took that out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think that that's like a purposeful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they were like, well, we we were

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<v Speaker 2>more in favor of free Palestine and we don't really

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<v Speaker 2>care about the N word. It sounds to me like

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually nobody's fault, right, right, And then here's the problem. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want to say, like, hey, people with

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<v Speaker 2>tourette stay home, how do you how do you enforce that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like do you just go like, hey, on your honor, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have Tourette's and you might yell the inWORD out, like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't come here because you can't you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>Like once he's very sware. Here, here's what it says

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<v Speaker 2>on the Guardian be awful to go, Hey, we know

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<v Speaker 2>you you're up for this award, but we can't allow

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<v Speaker 2>you because you might yell something inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, do you think that that high school

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<v Speaker 1>kids should have been in the audience yelling I have

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<v Speaker 1>a gun, I'm going to kill you all and then

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<v Speaker 1>screening every five minutes in the corner. Should that be?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that acceptable? Like to me, it is absolutely unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just no question, Like I'm gonna Larry david this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like no way, like absolutely not, and the theaters what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking. But the problem is I'm just saying from

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<v Speaker 2>a like human rights perspective, like from a yes, everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>comfort perspective, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how you are, how you go people with Tourette syndrome

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<v Speaker 2>are not welcome at shows? How do you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you could do that with anything like here

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<v Speaker 1>for example, says in The Guardian, what could have been

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<v Speaker 1>done question Mark? Well, Davidson himself. They're saying could make that,

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<v Speaker 1>could have made the decision to leave the event, which

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he did or not. Perhaps there

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a conversation in advance about him attending

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<v Speaker 1>only a chosen part of the ceremony, right the part

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<v Speaker 1>where he was up for the award, and about what

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<v Speaker 1>the risks were, and surely no one was better informed

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<v Speaker 1>about those risks than Davidson himself. The BBC should have

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<v Speaker 1>cut the offending language. But as we just talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>they say they didn't hear it because they were in

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<v Speaker 1>video village, right. But it says back to the BBC

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone else has got to stop using these words,

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<v Speaker 1>the words of quasi apology. From the stage, we heard

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<v Speaker 1>the dread phrase phrase, we apologize if you are offended tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess someone said that if you were offended.

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<v Speaker 1>So people are mad about that because a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people were. Oh, I think Alan Cumming he was the host,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said at some point he said, we are

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<v Speaker 1>asking for a respectful space for everyone. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy that he had to actually say something about it. Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's such a it's it's a heart it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tough one. It's a tough one because you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I'm not saying knee jerk reaction, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>horrible and offensive and hurting people that are just there

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<v Speaker 2>to get their damn awards. On the other hand, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you just go like that's it, that's offensive. You

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<v Speaker 2>could you might end up being offensive tonight, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can't come.

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<v Speaker 1>It is other things you say. You either tell the

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<v Speaker 1>present every presenter listen. We do have tourettes is on

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<v Speaker 1>the table like this documentary is, you know, so we

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<v Speaker 1>do have people here from in that situation, so words

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<v Speaker 1>could be said, so let's talk about it, and that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. They could have had him just come in

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<v Speaker 1>for his segment, not for the entire show, right, but reasonable.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I'm asking? Do you do you

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<v Speaker 2>know where I'm coming from. I'm saying, so, okay, who's

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<v Speaker 2>they bafta the p of the producers? So the producers

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<v Speaker 2>would take him aside, John Davidson aside and say, hey, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know if we're going to let you be

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<v Speaker 2>here tonight in the audience because you have tourettes and

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<v Speaker 2>you could say something offensive, well, yeah, or at least

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't like it any more than anybody else, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's mortified. You know, it's not easy, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>going through is terrible as well. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to necessarily be in that situation either, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I'm saying, Like if he did, if he

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<v Speaker 2>was worried that he was going to say the N word,

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<v Speaker 2>then that would have been something he I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't, But then wouldn't that have been on him?

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<v Speaker 2>As you're saying to go like, yeah, I probably shouldn't come, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe I don't. I guess it's just I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so exad about it. He's he says, now he's

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<v Speaker 1>spoken out, and he said he's deeply mortified if anyone

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<v Speaker 1>considers my involuntary ticks be intentional or to carry any meaning.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people online are going, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>watch the documentary and you'll understand, which people are like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we do understand. But it's still a terrible position to

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<v Speaker 1>N word at. You know, I get I get both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>I really really do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that's the whole point of covering this

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<v Speaker 2>is like to to think about both sides. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if let me pose this to you really quick,

421
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<v Speaker 2>let me pose this to you. What if okay, now

422
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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a conspiracy theory. What if

423
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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing is a setup to bring attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people take the threats there are totally really I think,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. Tons of people they're like, oh, okay,

426
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<v Speaker 1>so now everybody's going to watch the documentary, right, I

427
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<v Speaker 1>don't think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I well, now I want to watch it.

429
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<v Speaker 1>I mean I want to watch it anyway to support

430
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<v Speaker 1>but by the way, we missed this. He also Davidson

431
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<v Speaker 1>also praised the BAFTA organizers for notifying the audience about

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<v Speaker 1>his pick beforehand and clarifying that they don't reflect his

433
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<v Speaker 1>personal beliefs. So they did do something.

434
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<v Speaker 2>So they did the thing that you asked them to do.

435
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's weird that the Guardian and Sky News

436
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<v Speaker 1>have two totally different accounts of what happened. But he said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I was heartened by the round of applause that followed

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<v Speaker 1>the announcement, and I felt welcomed and understood an environment

439
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<v Speaker 1>that would normally be impossible for me. Okay, that's great.

440
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<v Speaker 2>And then what if after he yelled out the N word,

441
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<v Speaker 2>he just got a round of applause, and then everybody

442
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<v Speaker 2>gets mad and the people are like, oh no, that's

443
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<v Speaker 2>not we were not applauding the word.

444
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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, stop.

445
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<v Speaker 2>And then he just keeps saying every word.

446
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's okay, so it says the host ellen

447
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<v Speaker 1>Coming subsequently did acknowledge the interruption and explained again about

448
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<v Speaker 1>Taurette's in a statement. Baptist said that the slur was

449
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<v Speaker 1>a source of incomparable trauma and pain for so many

450
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<v Speaker 1>and they were so sorry for putting their guests in

451
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<v Speaker 1>a very difficult situation. And yeah, I mean, but if

452
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<v Speaker 1>you see the fighting on Twitter and threads like oh

453
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<v Speaker 1>my god, like nobody's coming to get there here, and

454
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people, a lot of beautiful people have

455
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<v Speaker 1>been real quick to throw us Jew's astray. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was do it, if they said the K word,

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee that wouldn't be on there, Like yeah, would

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<v Speaker 1>I want you know what I mean, yes, if they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hear it in the video village, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear that either from the audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that is crazy to know what I mean. First

462
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<v Speaker 2>of all, the N word is worse than the K word.

463
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<v Speaker 2>I mean to most people, they'd be they'd absolutely if

464
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<v Speaker 2>they were going to say something to either way.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, pretty you same, They're pretty the same to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Your point is that they wouldn't have stopped that because

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<v Speaker 2>people are more accepting of that, is what I'm saying

468
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<v Speaker 2>exactly exactly. Nobody would be like, oh my god they

469
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<v Speaker 2>said that. They'd be like, well yes, dreads, or they'd

470
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<v Speaker 2>be like what's that? Yeah, So I don't understand, like

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<v Speaker 2>why and any excuse to like throw the Jew down

472
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<v Speaker 2>the well.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know either. It's really and

474
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<v Speaker 1>it happened really quickly, and I mean, I'm gonna just

475
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<v Speaker 1>say just to save your sanity, like don't look, because

476
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<v Speaker 1>it's really bad. And it's like thousands of people are

477
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<v Speaker 1>saying the same thing if this were a Jew, probably

478
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<v Speaker 1>the Jews, and they're like, well, why did we catch

479
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<v Speaker 1>astray on this one? That's nothing, like give me a break.

480
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<v Speaker 1>That's just crazy. So this was a really tricky sitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel for everyone, and I feel for anybody that

482
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<v Speaker 1>you know, had to.

483
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<v Speaker 2>Hear the word.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible, and especially in a situation like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel for this guy who's like I knew

486
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<v Speaker 1>a guy in high school. He had really bad charettes.

487
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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's it's a certain type of chrettes. It

488
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<v Speaker 1>starts with a C. I'm sorry. You guys probably know it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's those kind of vocal ticks. There's like some

490
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<v Speaker 1>that are just vocal ticks where you don't say words,

491
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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of grunt or whatever. And sometimes it's

492
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<v Speaker 1>just facial ticks. But sometimes it's like they say, you know,

493
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<v Speaker 1>the ones where they just say all the things. Sometimes

494
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<v Speaker 1>it's nonsensical. But a lot of times it's like the

495
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<v Speaker 1>thing you're not which all ticks are all it is.

496
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<v Speaker 1>It's threats. It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's part of it's a syndrome, and it's a

498
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<v Speaker 2>it's like eight years old, yeah, yeah, or younger, but

499
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<v Speaker 2>we might not have noticed it. But yeah, my kids Xander.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Xander has so what are the like, Yeah.

501
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<v Speaker 2>He it's he does. He does like hard blinks. He

502
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<v Speaker 2>has not had vocal tics, so there's a bit different. Yeah,

503
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<v Speaker 2>well it's all under the Tourette's umbrella. It's just not

504
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<v Speaker 2>vocal tics. It's physical tics, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So the the vocal tics. There was a guy

506
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<v Speaker 1>I went to high school with. He had the vocal tics,

507
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<v Speaker 1>and he would say pretty crazy things in the middle

508
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<v Speaker 1>of math class, and you know, it was a little

509
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<v Speaker 1>bit it was a little bit of a more accepting

510
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<v Speaker 1>because it was a performing art. It's high school, you know,

511
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<v Speaker 1>so it was sort of like, that's just John.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let me ask you this, because you were telling

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<v Speaker 2>me this before we got on the air. So some

514
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<v Speaker 2>people are saying that part of the tick is saying

515
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<v Speaker 2>the thing that you're most like nervous about saying it's yes,

516
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<v Speaker 2>because some people might be going like, well, maybe the

517
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<v Speaker 2>tick is like stuff that you'd want to say, you

518
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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like it's like being drunk. Oh no, oh,

519
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<v Speaker 2>you actually kind of mean that and it just comes

520
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<v Speaker 2>out when your tick comes out. But but you've read

521
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<v Speaker 2>that that's not the case. That it's like no, absolutely,

522
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<v Speaker 2>it's the worst thing you could say.

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<v Speaker 1>Your brain makes you say it, and you're the OCD.

524
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<v Speaker 1>You have it. Torett's is part of an OCD, so

525
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<v Speaker 1>you really can't even you can't control it. It's completely involuntary.

526
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<v Speaker 1>So you get to this part where you're thinking about

527
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<v Speaker 1>don't say this word. Don't say this word until you

528
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<v Speaker 1>have to say the word like an explosion of anxiety,

529
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<v Speaker 1>and you say it. It's the thing your brain just

530
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<v Speaker 1>literally makes you say it. So it's and some people

531
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<v Speaker 1>are arguing, they're like, well, why would you even know

532
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<v Speaker 1>that word? Everybody knows that anybody was listened to like

533
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a rap song or like seeing watched a Tarantino move.

534
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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's crazy, Like that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>The type of Tretts is called copro co copper little

536
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<v Speaker 3>co o p r O l A l I A

537
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<v Speaker 3>that's how that's spelled.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really hard. The guy that I knew that

539
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>had it in high school, things didn't work out for him.

540
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<v Speaker 1>It was really awful. His life was really awful and

541
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:35.599
<v Speaker 1>it ended really early. And yeah, no, I mean it

542
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>was like he tried to hide a lot, you know,

543
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>he tried to push it down with drugs, or at

544
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 1>least if he was doing a bunch of drugs, he

545
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.319
<v Speaker 1>could be like that's why I'm saying these weird crazy

546
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>like at a certain point it was so outrageous that

547
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:50.599
<v Speaker 1>he just couldn't take it.

548
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<v Speaker 2>You know. That's really sad.

549
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.079
<v Speaker 1>It is really sad, and that's certainly not the case.

550
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 1>And I know other people that have tourettes. I don't

551
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<v Speaker 1>know anybody that I can think of that has it

552
00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the vocal ones, but more like what Xander has, like

553
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>body you know, face tics, facial ticks and stuff, and

554
00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:12.519
<v Speaker 1>they live a perfectly wonderful life with partners and job.

555
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, nothing's changed for them. Like I know a

556
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that have the blinking one for sure,

557
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.079
<v Speaker 1>and it's usually not the case, but it definitely should

558
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>be talked about more. I mean, I think that's this

559
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>documentary is so important and it sucks that's how it

560
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 1>went down. But maybe maybe they did do it on purpose. No,

561
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>then then that would make this guy a total dick,

562
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think he is. Yeah, anyway, guys, I think.

563
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what do you? Yeah, what do y'all think? Like,

564
00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 2>whose side are you on?

565
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Mine?

566
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Like a devil?

567
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Mine or the devil or God or Jesus or the

568
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Buddha or bafta or I mean, I think there's a

569
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<v Speaker 1>world in which you can be on the side of

570
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>everyone involved and just say, like we can just we

571
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>just need to do better. But just don't look at

572
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Twitter serious, Yeah, I would yea, Threads is becoming worse

573
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 1>than Twitter. It's a little bit smarter, like it's a

574
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 1>little bit more focused, but pretty mean, pretty terrible. And again,

575
00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>like God, the anti Semitism coming at us. Just from that,

576
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well what yeh, all right, everybody, all right,

577
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 1>thanks for being here, thanks for listening, tell us what

578
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<v Speaker 1>you think. Yeah, rest

579
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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye
