WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.880 on the iHeartRadio app. Coming up in the twelve o'clock hour, 4 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:12.480 The Story of Ruby, Frankie and her children. Okay, so 5 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:16.640 this has been kind of on my peripheral vision radar 6 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:19.679 for quite some time, ever since she was arrested in 7 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:23.239 August of twenty twenty three, and I kind of didn't 8 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:27.039 pay attention to it. And last night I fell into 9 00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:30.079 the documentary on Hulu about the Devil and the. 10 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.399 Family Holy Hell. 11 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:36.079 And I know that some people have been interested in 12 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:39.000 this and have been invested into this, but some people haven't. 13 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.159 And if you haven't, like myself, or have just kind 14 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:42.520 of been aware of it but not all. 15 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:46.960 The details, buckle up. It is a wild ride. 16 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:50.920 And I was watching a documentary and I meant to 17 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.439 figure out which one it was before I started talking 18 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:57.240 about this, and it did not. But I was totally 19 00:00:57.280 --> 00:01:02.000 ignorant to the whole world of and family vloggers and 20 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:07.599 how popular this was on YouTube, with parents who vlog 21 00:01:08.120 --> 00:01:11.799 who video their entire lives with their kids, stay at 22 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:16.879 home moms, how big of a industry it is in 23 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:19.920 terms of product placement and the checks that these families 24 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:22.879 get and the horroring out of the children. 25 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:23.959 It's awful. 26 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:26.560 It is awful, And I think that it's one of 27 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:28.120 those things that once you're in it and you see 28 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:30.760 all the other people doing it, it's normalized, and you 29 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:33.599 think it's normal to broadcast your kids' lives. 30 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:37.040 It is not. When you are an outside set of 31 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.200 eyes looking in. What are you doing? 32 00:01:40.840 --> 00:01:43.480 You know? And it's all these people who pride themselves 33 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:46.480 on being great parents and doing it the right way 34 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:50.400 and putting it all on video. Oh my goodness, it 35 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:53.599 is a hole to do. And she's the worst out 36 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:56.640 of all of them. So we'll get into that, into 37 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:59.159 that story coming up in the twelve o'clock hour, and 38 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:02.200 maybe dip into it tomorrow for what you watch on Wednesday, 39 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:04.560 because I could not pull my eyes away from that 40 00:02:04.640 --> 00:02:10.159 documentary and also see obviously I'm super into it. 41 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:11.439 The husband. 42 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.919 They do extensive interviews with her husband, who's kind of 43 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:18.319 along for the ride and this whole weird roller coaster 44 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:22.400 of chronicling their family and their kids growing up. And 45 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:25.479 you're watching his interviews the same way you were watching 46 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:29.680 the Hidden and Plane side or whatever. That that documentary 47 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:31.719 It was that Gary and I watched like eight years 48 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:35.639 ago where the guy infiltrates the family and then molests 49 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.719 the kids and then the parents too, and you're watching 50 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:40.599 the interview with the husband and you just want to 51 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.800 throw stuff at the TV, like, how could you be 52 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:43.639 so dumb? 53 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:45.319 What are you talking about? You didn't know? 54 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.719 So anyway, we'll get into that coming up in the 55 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:53.759 twelve o'clock hour. Breaking news internationally this hour, Ukrainian President 56 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:57.879 Vladimir Zelenski says his country now is willing to move 57 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:02.080 forward on that minerals and secure a deal. This was 58 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:05.520 the deal that Trump wanted signed before their blow up 59 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:09.000 in the Oval office, before Trump kicked them out, before 60 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.960 they had their joint podium press conference. This is the 61 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:16.680 deal that Trump wanted done, and then everything escalated and 62 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:19.919 it was a mess. Well. Zelensky took to social media 63 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:24.439 today on x our meeting in Washington at the White 64 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:26.960 House on Friday, he writes, did not go the way 65 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:29.759 it was supposed to be. It's time to make things right. 66 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:34.400 We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive. 67 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:37.199 This was a deal that would allow the US to 68 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:42.479 tap into Kiev's mineral deposits in exchange for an investment 69 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:46.680 fund for reconstruction for Ukrainian development. So basically more money 70 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:49.560 for Ukraine to build up the stuff that was shot 71 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:53.840 down and we get to tap into their mineral deposits. 72 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:57.560 So Zelenski said today, this is kind of the first 73 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:01.159 step back to repairing the relateationship. I guess he said 74 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:04.439 that his team is ready to work under Trump's strong 75 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:08.400 leadership to get a piece that lasts proposing Ukraine and 76 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.719 Russia both release prisoners and agree to a truce in 77 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:15.400 the sky and a truce in the sea immediately, So 78 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.720 quite the one eighty there, and this is what Trump wanted. 79 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:23.040 And as I mentioned yesterday, my whole theory or my 80 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.199 dad's here, I guess it was of playing the game. 81 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:26.839 You're not always going to like who you're talking to 82 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.480 or who you're dealing with. You got to learn how 83 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:31.519 to deal with them on their terms in order to 84 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:35.199 get what you want. Zelensky's playing the game here talking 85 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:41.279 about Trump's strong leadership, giving him the adoration and the compliments. 86 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:42.839 That's what Trump wants. 87 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:45.720 And then Zelensky may get what he wants in the 88 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.360 form of more American dollars because those were put on 89 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:53.600 pause overnight as well, So maybe some movement on that front. 90 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.319 And as John Decker was telling us from the White 91 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.639 House Press Corps when we talked to him yesterday, this 92 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.199 was somebody who does not hold a lot of leverage Zelenski, 93 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:04.959 So it was only a matter of time before he 94 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.879 kind of came back and said, all right, I need you, 95 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:09.959 I need you. Yes, Europe has done a lot, but 96 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:14.160 I do need the United States as well. Target CEO, 97 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.879 as I mentioned, told CNBC today warning people that you 98 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.399 may see price increases in the next few days due 99 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:24.199 to the tariffs on goods from Mexico Trump excuse me. 100 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:28.160 Target apparently relies on Mexico quite a bit during this 101 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.000 time of year, during the winter, so you're gonna see 102 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:34.480 Target at least up their prices on fruits and vegetables 103 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:39.279 as soon as this week, avocados, bananas, strawberries in particular. 104 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:43.240 All Right, there is a trial going on, a murder 105 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:46.199 trial in Los Angeles that I find to be interesting, 106 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.480 and I thought it found it to be interesting ever 107 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:51.839 since the man was arrested for killing his wife back 108 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.399 in August of twenty twenty three. His name is Jeffrey Ferguson. 109 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:59.360 He's seventy four, and his wife's name is Cheryl. Was Cheryl, 110 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:03.240 she's sixty five, And he was arrested for shooting and 111 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.720 killing his wife back in August of twenty twenty three. 112 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.560 And you're saying, wow, this happens. 113 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:08.879 All the time. 114 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:13.639 Husband and wife get a little homicidy. Yeah, but Jeffrey 115 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:17.079 Ferguson is a sitting judge in Orange County. He has 116 00:06:17.160 --> 00:06:20.519 been for several years. He was actually a former DA 117 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:24.439 as well. This is somebody who's spent their life in 118 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:29.600 the world of law and order. And Jeffrey Ferguson also 119 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:36.360 sent a text message after the shooting moments after. Did 120 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.639 he send this text message to a friend or a 121 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:42.720 family member, No, he kept it within the world of 122 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.360 law and order. Jeffrey Ferguson sent a text message to 123 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:51.000 his bailiff and his clerk just moments after shooting and 124 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:55.199 killing his wife Cheryl, and in the text message was 125 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:59.399 seemingly a confession. He said, I just lost it, just 126 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.399 shot my I won't be in tomorrow. I will be 127 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:07.519 in custody. I'm so sorry to me. That's open and shut. Hell, 128 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.839 Judge Jeffrey Ferguson would tell you that's an open and 129 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.959 shut murder case. But here we are with the case 130 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.959 move from Orange County to La County because of conflict 131 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:20.199 of interest, as you can imagine, and. 132 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:22.040 You've got a jury that's deadlocked. 133 00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.680 Well, it's a little bit more nuanced than that, isn't it. 134 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.439 It's not always just did he shoot his wife? Obviously 135 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:32.560 he shot and kills his wife, but what degree of 136 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:34.600 the law are you gonna punish him with? And that 137 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:37.759 seems to be where they are hung up. Now, let's 138 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:43.319 go back to August of twenty twenty three. This was 139 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:48.959 an evening when the three Fergusons, mom, dad, and their 140 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:52.839 son had gone out to dinner. Their son's name is Philip, 141 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:55.240 so it's Jeffrey, Cheryl, and Philip, and they go out 142 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:55.720 to dinner. 143 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:58.519 But apparently after a couple of. 144 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:06.360 Cocktails sharel Ferguson storms out because Jeffrey the judge made 145 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:10.480 a hand gesture of some nature of a gun during 146 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:14.680 their little spat at the table before she runs out. Now, 147 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.360 later on in the home, it seems like the fight 148 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:24.720 has continued and the judge says that or the son, 149 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:27.120 excuse me, says that he heard the judge say something 150 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:31.680 to the wife of the effect of, you know, excuse me, 151 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:32.840 I have it mixed up. 152 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:33.600 Let's rewind. 153 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:36.960 The son, Philip, says that he heard the wife, Cheryl, say 154 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:38.759 to the judge at some point, and this is after 155 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:40.919 they left dinner or the back at home, that the wife 156 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:42.679 says something to the effect of, why don't you pull 157 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:45.480 a pull point a real gun at me? Because remember 158 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:47.600 she got upset during dinner that he poked a fake 159 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.080 gun like a handgun at her or whatever and pulled 160 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.480 the trigger. And so they get home things have escalated. 161 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:55.799 Why don't you pull point a real gun at me, 162 00:08:55.919 --> 00:09:01.879 she says, And then the son tells detectives, I turn 163 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:04.759 around and there's dad who pulled out a real gun, 164 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.960 aimed at mom and fired. He testified that Mom's last 165 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:14.039 words were he shot me. So he is charged the 166 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.840 judges with murder sentencing enhancements for the discharge of a 167 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:20.000 gun causing death, personal use of a gun. 168 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.240 That's all irrelevant for our purposes. 169 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:27.519 But this is a jury that is at an impasse 170 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:32.519 on the second degree murder charge, which is just basically, 171 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:39.279 did he act without any with any regard it's basically 172 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:44.679 implied malice murder, which means you're acting without conscious regard 173 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:45.200 for life. 174 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:48.080 It's called conscious disregard for life. 175 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:51.720 If you're waving around a gun, if you fire a 176 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:54.120 gun into a crowd, you don't mean to kill anybody, 177 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:56.639 But you fire a gun into a crowd and you 178 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.559 kill someone at second degree murder, you know what you're 179 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:05.759 doing is likely to end with somebody dying unlawfully that 180 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:10.039 second degree murder. Did this guy know that him pulling 181 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:15.320 out the gun and firing it at the wife was probably. 182 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:16.120 Going to end in her murder? 183 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:18.919 Yes, I mean it is a gift that he's only 184 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:21.480 on second degree murder and that it's not first degree murder. 185 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:25.200 But anyway, that's neither here nor there. It's an absolute 186 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:28.200 open and shut case for second degree murder. But the 187 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:30.879 jurors kind of, at least some of them, have bought 188 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:34.039 into the defense case that it was an accident, that oh, 189 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:37.279 the judge had a bad shoulder and he was putting 190 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:41.200 the gun away and he accidentally fired it. Well, if 191 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:45.879 that was the case, then why does the sun remember 192 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:49.080 things so differently? If this was just a oh honey, 193 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.000 your gun's on the table, will you put it away, 194 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.039 and he picks it up, and his shoulder hurts and 195 00:10:53.080 --> 00:10:53.879 he fires it. 196 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:58.000 I don't know, It's kind of hard to get over 197 00:10:58.039 --> 00:10:58.519 the hurdle. 198 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.679 Also that this gun requires five pounds of pressure to 199 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.279 depress the trigger. If your shoulders that bad, how are 200 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:07.320 you that good with the trigger? I guess one could 201 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:10.960 argue as well. But apparently this juror, this jury is 202 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:15.519 very emotional. You've got them split on second degree murder. 203 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:19.559 Some believe absolutely he acted with implied malice, and then 204 00:11:19.639 --> 00:11:23.519 some of them that are set on involuntary manslaughter. It 205 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:27.320 was an accident. It was a heated argument that resulted 206 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:31.919 in her death. Several votes have been taken, but they 207 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.679 don't know how many. At this point in that jury room, 208 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:39.080 there has been some movement on the deadlock. The judge 209 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.399 in the case, Eleanor Hunter, is trying again this morning 210 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:44.039 to bring. 211 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:44.720 The jurors back. 212 00:11:45.879 --> 00:11:48.879 She has said that it's not just the four person 213 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.759 that can ask questions. Anyone can ask a question, so 214 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.360 really pulling out all the steps to get a verdict here, 215 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:00.039 but the jurors seemed very seemed very confused when it 216 00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:04.279 comes to some seriously simple questions At least in my opinion, 217 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:09.000 like they have questions between what. 218 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:13.480 Is a lawful act? What is a lawful act? 219 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.960 Actually was what one of the jurors aunts asked, and 220 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:20.200 the answer was, a lawful act is one that is 221 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:23.919 not unlawful. I mean, it was only a matter of 222 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:27.440 time untill our juries got completely dumbed down, right. Another 223 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.679 juror added, can we have some tissues please? So apparently 224 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.080 things are getting heated in there because you know, they're 225 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.360 not crying over dead Cheryl. They're probably crying because feelings 226 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:39.240 are getting hurt in that jury room. So we'll see 227 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.120 what happens there. But how much of the fact that 228 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.559 it's a judge plays into it? 229 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:45.720 Is it hard to believe? 230 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:47.480 Is that a hurdle to get over that a judge 231 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:50.120 would shoot and kill his wife guy who spent thirty 232 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.279 years on the bench another handful as a DA sending 233 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:58.480 that text message, I did it essentially. I just don't 234 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:01.120 understand what the problem is in terms of deciding that 235 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:02.440 this guy's guilty of murder. 236 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:04.600 Oh and the blood alcohol level. I didn't get to 237 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:05.200 that one either. 238 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:07.559 It looked like he was at about a point one 239 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:12.600 seven when that trigger was pulled. I found this story interesting. 240 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:16.080 It was in the chronicle, the San Francisco Chronicle this morning, 241 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.639 and I thought it interesting. I always think it interesting 242 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:22.759 when the San Francisco Chronicle or La Times goes after 243 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:26.279 local politicians or corruption. I want to give them a 244 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.720 round of applause, because a lot of times they kind 245 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:30.879 of bury their heads in the sand or take the 246 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:32.360 sides of the elected officials. 247 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:34.759 So good on them. 248 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:38.320 This is all about what's called the San Francisco Human 249 00:13:38.440 --> 00:13:43.799 Rights Commission, the San Francisco Human Rights Commission executive director 250 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:49.320 in particular, her name is Cheryl Davis, and last winter 251 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:55.360 she was given a gift. Now, Cheryl is the head 252 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:58.799 of this Human Rights Commission. It's a nonprofit group and 253 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:03.720 it does work and contracting work with the local government 254 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:06.840 there in San Francisco. And she was given a gift 255 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:11.360 by an entity called the Urban Education Academy. 256 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:12.360 What was the gift? 257 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:14.679 What we hear about gifts all the time, right, all 258 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:18.120 the kickbacks at politicians and the like get whether it's 259 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:23.960 sports tickets you know, lak or floor seats tickets to theater, 260 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.759 expensive dinners, expensive trips, flights, things like that, and it's 261 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:30.960 all about horring, right, It's all about what you're going 262 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:33.679 to give to the elected officials to get them to 263 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.000 give you the lucrative contract. And they're more likely to 264 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:40.080 give you the contract if you give them stuff because 265 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:43.440 they're children and they're whoors at the same time, which 266 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.799 makes a really uncomfortable situation. But I have never heard 267 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:52.039 a more on the nose gift than this one. This 268 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:57.320 group gave this Human Rights Commission executive director a large, 269 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:01.279 a massive, brightly color portrait of. 270 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.519 Herself of herself. 271 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:09.120 I mean, who is the person that puts a self 272 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:13.360 portrait of themselves up? I have heard a story ps 273 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:18.120 from a former hairstylist that Anderson Cooper has a massive 274 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.399 portrait of Gloria Vanderbilt, his mother, framed above his bed. 275 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.519 How creepy is that you're going to do the dirty 276 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.440 with Anderson Cooper and you're looking at his mom the 277 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.600 whole time. I'll just let you sit with that for 278 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:34.320 a minute, anyway. But they give her a picture of 279 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:38.120 herself and she's almost tearing up last fall when she 280 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:40.919 gets this beautiful commissioned portrait. 281 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:43.919 And the director of this. 282 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:47.799 Academy that's hoping to secure this lucrative contract with San Francisco, 283 00:15:47.919 --> 00:15:50.159 who signs off of on it. By the way, a 284 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:53.080 witch Cheryld Davis that would sign off on this urban 285 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:56.320 education academy getting this big contract. They say to her 286 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:58.879 at the time, You've done so much for this city, 287 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:04.159 so much for this organization with our partnership. Anyway, now 288 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.519 in papers as all of this is litigated, she's been 289 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.039 axed by the way. She was making an s ton 290 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.879 of money. This wasn't the only gift she was getting. 291 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:16.600 But as soon as this gift was given to her, 292 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:22.240 reporters started digging into her relationships with city contractors, her 293 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:27.360 management of this initiative that her friend Mayor London Breed 294 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:29.840 hooked her up with. London Breed was the one who 295 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:31.679 got rid of her, by the way, because this woman, 296 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:35.200 Cheryl Davis, was acting super dirty and getting kickbacks left 297 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:38.960 and right. But it was the very portrait of herself 298 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:41.799 that was a gift given to her that started the 299 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.679 ball rolling that led to her demise. 300 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:46.679 A portrait of herself. 301 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:50.000 I mean, how perfect is that when it comes to 302 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:53.559 the narcissism that exists with these people who think they're 303 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:57.320 doing the work of the people, when all the while 304 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.159 they're worried about themselves and what they're getting out of 305 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.360 the deal. It's never for the childer, and it's never 306 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:05.279 for the people and the angelinos. It's for themselves too 307 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:10.400 often of the time. And how apropos that what brought 308 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:14.119 her down was a gift given to her by this 309 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:17.079 entity that wanted a lucrative contract with the city, and 310 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.119 the gift was the ultimate gift for a narcissist. 311 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:25.839 A picture of herself. I love that it is poetic. 312 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:29.519 Keana and I were just talking about man cup of 313 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:32.240 noodles so hard kind of made a cup of noodles 314 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:34.440 and we're just sitting here looking at it. It's got 315 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:37.559 the fork, the fork over the top so that it 316 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.640 can cook up, the noodles can cook up, And said 317 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:42.920 to her, it's the longest three minutes, just waiting for 318 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.880 a cup of noodles to get nice and tender. And 319 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.640 the problem is is, sometimes, especially with the new cup 320 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.759 of noodles, it takes longer than three minutes. Sometimes I 321 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:53.559 find the noodles are still too hard, and I've got 322 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:55.599 to nuke them for another minute or so. 323 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:58.519 Sometimes I have to forget about the noodles. Yeah, and 324 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:00.480 then remember that who. 325 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.039 Is that person who forgets about the noodles. You have 326 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:05.279 to leave them in another room. They're like a phone. 327 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:07.200 You can't have it in the same room with you. 328 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:08.640 Otherwise it's a distraction. 329 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:10.599 But if I left them in the break room, they'd 330 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:11.119 be gone. 331 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:11.720 Right. 332 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:15.200 You have to put them in a locked office. Somebody 333 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.599 would touch them or do something. I understand your chain 334 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:20.839 of custody needs for the cup of noodles, but it 335 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:23.640 is the hardest thing to look at. One of the 336 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:25.599 hardest things to look at is the fork over the 337 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.519 cup of noodles while the noodles get ready. 338 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:31.240 By the end of this segment, they should be ready. 339 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.440 I'm hoping they're around. It's a long segment. That's gonna 340 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:38.559 be a long time, all right. I feel your pain 341 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:41.880 coming up. 342 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:44.880 We will be going to the East coast to find 343 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.920 out all that we want to know about Trump's addressed 344 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:50.799 to Congress. As I mentioned, he is talking about it 345 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:53.799 on truth Social saying that it's going to be musty 346 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.640 TV and that he's going to tell it. 347 00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:57.279 Like it is. 348 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:01.359 So I think you're going to see and embolden Trump, 349 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.799 especially what happened with Zelensky today. You know, he got 350 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:07.559 some heat after what went down in the Oval office. 351 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:12.839 About the argument and the altercation in front of all 352 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:18.359 those cameras and how they both behaved. And Zelensky came 353 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:20.720 out this morning and said that he regrets the way 354 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:23.960 that meeting went and that he is ready to fall 355 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:27.000 in step essentially with Trump. He's definitely playing the game 356 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.480 that Trump wants him to play, and I think that's 357 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:32.319 going to embolden Trump as he goes before Congress, which, 358 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.960 by the way, he hasn't needed. He has signed this 359 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:38.720 flurry of executive orders and he's only needed a number one, 360 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:40.759 the guy that he looks at in the mirror so far, 361 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.240 and who does that embolden that same guy? So we 362 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.480 will go to the East coast get an update on 363 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:53.400 the reaction around Capitol Hill as we get ready, as 364 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:55.960 we get ready for that address. Also with the tariffs 365 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.680 mean as well. Gene Hackman and his death his wife's 366 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.240 death remain a mystery. As we talked about yesterday, it's 367 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:07.039 going to be several weeks before we find out what 368 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:11.319 exactly happened. Whether we ever know what exactly happened, I 369 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:14.880 don't know. But the tests will come back, we'll find 370 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.839 out if they had anything in their system. Christiane Hackman 371 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:20.640 ninety five, his wife sixty five. One of the comments 372 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:24.680 or the concerns has been, well, if they were left there, 373 00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:26.720 if they were dead for nine or ten days, like 374 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:31.720 some of the medical experts are opining, where was everybody? 375 00:20:31.799 --> 00:20:34.279 Did they have help at home? Where were the kids? 376 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.039 What's going on? Well, it turns out they were kind 377 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:42.799 of indicative of what happened to many of us after COVID, 378 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:47.400 kind of keeping to ourselves, not interacting with the neighbors 379 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:50.319 as much, maybe not having people over, maybe not having 380 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:54.519 as many interactions with humans as we had pre pandemic. 381 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.440 This is Santa Fe Summit where they live. It's a 382 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:02.440 gated community just east of Santa Fe, New Mexico, and 383 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.720 some of their nearest neighbors said they had seen no 384 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:07.960 sign of the couple in recent years. The only way 385 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.960 that they knew they were still there was the trash 386 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:12.400 cans were put out waiting to be picked up on 387 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:16.279 the days when that would happen. This is not a 388 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:19.759 shocker that the couple did not attend homeowners' association meetings. 389 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:20.880 Who does that? 390 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:23.440 I mean, I know there are people who do that, 391 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:25.680 and I support the people that do that, so that 392 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:28.400 I don't have to do that, but Gene Hackman's not 393 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:31.839 going to an HOA meeting the annual picnics they would have, 394 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.920 they were not there, and they did have their share 395 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:40.920 of friends around town. Gene Hackman had invested in a 396 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:44.279 local restaurant where his paintings hung on the walls, so 397 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:48.680 apparently he was a painter. She had the wife, Betsy, 398 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:51.640 had co founded a store nearby that sells home goods. 399 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:54.960 But they said that after COVID, the couple retreated further 400 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:59.200 from public life, that they enjoyed the neighborhood's solitude. There 401 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:03.279