Speaker 1: We just jump in. We're just jumping in. Hello, ladies
and gentlemen, to our episode three Agatha Review. What what?
What's the three? What's okay? The hand signs messed with me?
I am one of your hosts. The tears you cry,
Kirkling pats are and I'm joining. But not even planned,
not even planned. That was amazing.
Speaker 2: Wait that you have the audio drop that was so clean.
We're gonna have to see is that all play? Taylor is? Yeah? Okay, good,
I'm gonna I want to see if we get dinged
on YouTube for that or not. If we do, it'll
give me a muted but the audio listeners you'll get it.
But that's a good one.
Speaker 1: And who am I joined?
Speaker 2: Blay the clown Prince of Potions, trast.
Speaker 3: Now I'm the teen Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Yes, ladies and gentlemen. If you've been on this road
with us so far on Agatha you I'm glad you're back. Geez,
I haven't done an intro in a while.
Speaker 2: I just thought you guys should get some reps because
it wudn't be gone for a few months.
Speaker 1: I know this is this is definitely I'm glad that
we're doing this. But yes, Joe, we have. We have
tons of things going on in the feeds right now.
We got tons of reviews. We got Agatha obviously that's
why you're here. We've also got Rings of Power. I
think we've got two episodes left of that. Penguin is
just getting going right now. That was a fantastic episode one,
so I'm very much looking forward to this week's episode.
And is there any other shows we're on the I
don't know. We're getting closer to Joker too. Now.
Speaker 2: That's exciting cast last night, which I have to look,
but I think yesterday was a top three or today
when you guys listen to a top three, uh monetization
listener day for us for all the years, so people
are it was a juicy newscast, but I guess people
are excited for some jokers.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, absolutely, Dylan and I did a spicy
side Quest episode this week that was lots of fun,
and uh yeah, just lots and lots of stuff going
on on the feeds. And beyond that, you know, we
got lots of other fun stuff, you know, behind a
certain Patreon wall that maybe we'll bring up a little
bit later on in the show. But yeah, unless I'm
missing something. I think I just want to jump back
down on this this road with with a gentleman here.
One gentleman wasn't with us last week when we covered
the first two episodes, So you don't feel.
Speaker 2: Taking away, Dylan.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was apprehensive going into this show at the start,
but after watching those first two episodes, I quite enjoyed it.
I thought there was a there was some good, good beats,
and I was having a pretty good time with Agatha's character.
Speaker 3: The unknown teen. Not really a big fan of this person.
Speaker 1: I love that you're like just teen.
Speaker 2: That's so that's clarify. Do you mean of this character
for some reason? The actor you just have.
Speaker 4: Hate fucking act. It's the tea the character. I'm not
a big fan of the character so far. But that
being said, it maybe changed a little bit on the
positive side after this episode. But the first two episodes
just didn't really do me justice, So there's that. But yeah,
it's just it's it's a pleasant surprise, and I think
that there was just some things that really made me
laugh and I really enjoyed. And maybe it's just the
Halloween October fall aesthetic too.
Speaker 3: That's just kind of.
Speaker 4: Making me enjoy this a little bit more than I
was anticipating. But yakudos to them for timing it to
be as such. But yeah, I really really enjoyed this
week's episode and it had a little bit of a
surprise at the end, but all in all, it was,
uh yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was a good time. I don't know what I
could really say.
Speaker 4: That's not spoilers, but it was just it was neat
to get something that was revealed. But Madison was like,
oh no, they already revealed that in another Marvel project.
Of like, I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong
about that. It's been a while since I watched it.
Speaker 2: You're throwing a lot of things. I have no idea
talking about this.
Speaker 1: Episode for tonight. He got the early ac screen.
Speaker 4: I'll drop it when we get into the spoilers because
me and Madison were at each other's throats trying to
point so.
Speaker 1: I'm right, I'm right, Travis. Yeah, this week.
Speaker 2: So this week I think was a bit of a
dip for me, And it's for excuse me, it's for
trying not to spoil. But I'll just say the location
we picked I thought was very anti climactic, we got
on this Witch's Road last week and I was like, man,
I can't wait to see what adventures could happen on
this road and then our first stop. Because here's just
like a mini spoil. They're going to do a bunch
of trials, right, this is the first of many trials
I assume maybe the six or seven how many characters
we have. And for me, for this being the leading trial,
they're like, oh, cool, you just have this set laying
around for some soap opera and you use this. I
just felt like it was like I try not to
be mean, but I just feel like it's something we
could do. Not some of the visual effects, but some
of the things were it's just like, hey, we get together,
let's make a movie. Let's make a short film in
a weekend. And it's like, what do we have, Oh,
we have a house. We could do this. Like it
felt very anti climactic for the Witch's Road and for me,
I just this location of I don't care, I'll spoil it.
It's it's just like the whole episode set in the house,
just a regular house. Like it's just they see down
the road and it's like, oh, look at that, and
it looks like a house from Desert Housewives or like
any of those real housewives and everything like that, and
that's kind of aesthetic of this episode. So when they
got in there. There is some things this episode I
really did enjoy, so it's not a complete stinker, but
I was very let down, like, oh, it's just, like
I said, a set that some ABC show could use,
and they didn't do as much with it as I
would like it. And even then, I think this would
have been better if they did this maybe offs they
don't know the rest of the story, but a couple
trials down the road. I wanted something really cool balls
of Wall, really supernatural, really like we've seen these beasts
and demon so we know tho's are coming. I just
think for the first one it should have been that,
because this was just okay. It just felt like the budget,
like if I doubt it was, but just like they
had a budget and like, okay, well we got all
these trials, Well what about this trial that's just like
put in the house and we'll do like some magical
effects and that's about it. So other than that, I'm
liking all the characters. Still not like her, who doesn't
like Team or despises team whatever he wants to go with.
I think there's some good character moments. There's a theory
that we didn't talk about kirkle Matt people were running
with last week that seems to be true, which I
is a very interesting wrinkle into a certain character. I
think again, I'm thinking we gonna say this every week.
Katherin Han another home run, her comedic timing, her facials. Man,
she's just like just prime, Like I can't say a good,
like enough good things about her. So, uh, the way
last week ended, I was very excited. This week ended
as like all right, Like I wasn't as excited because
I just hope it's not like we get a few
more of these that are just of like modern day
regular settings that have like a little spookiness to them.
So yeah, not a terrible episode, but I didn't love
and it kind of made me a little less excited
for the show than last two weeks. But I wouldn't
like fail it or anything like that.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I don't think I'm quite there with you,
but I definitely this episode made me have like maybe
some potential hold ups going like further down the road.
I'm just gonna keep bringing up that pun. I like it.
I kept singing that song, Shane. I went for a
little hike on the weekend and I was just like
down down the Witch's Road just like, Man, I don't know,
I'm I love the Halloween vibe of what the show is,
and I feel like, for me, this episode wasn't necessarily
a dip, but maybe like a plateau. Like it, like
it didn't get better from last week, and I'm really
hoping that next week is like just a bigger banger,
maybe like a like a bigger step up and hands
up in the air.
Speaker 2: What is the definition of plateau?
Speaker 1: A plateau? Yeah, keep it flat, you know, flatter style. Yeah,
it's not good into that, It's not get into that.
But yeah, I feel like I agree with you in
the sense that this episode felt maybe lower budget than
the first two episodes because we were just in a
simple location like a house. I did like when they
first saw it, and it just stood out so much
from the eeries like scenery of where the road was.
But I feel like the character's chemistry and just the
actual stuff that was going on. I was able to
enjoy it enough to not see it as much as
a div even though I don't know, I am expecting
at least maybe some bigger monstery or spooky which stuff
and maybe this episode was held back from that, and
I am hoping that looking back, by the end of it,
this being like a real like I don't want every
episode to feel like this, maybe is a good way
to say that. Uh, you know, if it's just one
one episode like this along the road, I think that's
totally fine. But yeah, we'll see how how weird it
gets going further but well four down the road. But yeah,
I think that's all I really got to say, just gets.
Speaker 2: More and more normal, like has zero magic, just.
Speaker 1: Like ends in the suburbs with white picket fence. Everyone's happy.
That's anything else.
Speaker 2: No, it's a sidebar kerkle and I'm really pissed. I
found out that Creed is coming to Canada, but they're
on Toronto. I'm going Vancouver.
Speaker 1: Maybe if we write emails.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should get them for the tenth anniversary.
Speaker 1: You know, told me that they went to see Nickel
back not too long ago, and I was like, wow,
I don't even know they're still touring. And they made
me think, like, man, I wonder if Creed is ever
like coming in coming into Canada.
Speaker 2: But there's still the one but maybe they'll be which
is road?
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe what else is gonna be the which road.
Let's jump into some spoilery stuff and uh find out
did you have some ned or you're just students. I'm
not used to you just being the the wacky wave
inflatable and flating two men. But right, we'll be back
and we're back spoiler time. Where do you guys want
to go?
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the two things Taylor talk about. One,
what's the surprise at the end?
Speaker 3: The end was missus Hart dying? I did not expect
that at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't expecting.
Speaker 4: I thought when they gave her the potion and she
was yeah, like I thought she was good.
Speaker 3: But They're like, oh no, she's dead.
Speaker 4: So I'm wondering how that affects her trial because they
said there's a trial for each of the Witch's skills
that are there, so maybe she'll come back the first trial.
Speaker 2: Well, two things. One, I don't think she's dead dead,
I really don't. And then whoever she comes back as
in two, the real Greenwitch is supposed to be Uh,
Aubrey Plaza, right, So I feel like when she gets there,
that'll be the like the trial I will still happen
because they'll have a green Witch with them. That's why
I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: We wouldn't that green witch, like if she were to
show up, wouldn't she also have to go through all
the trials to catch up?
Speaker 3: I guess not drop in.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just a biproxy. You just need a green witch, right,
and you know so Uh.
Speaker 4: The other surprise that I thought was not mentioned before
was the Mephisto name drop.
Speaker 3: How's Mephisto's name been drop before? No, never fucking knew it?
Tel Madison, Yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Did get that in this episode, which finally oh miss
Mephisto confirmed. And I think we talked about in their
predictions because I think Dylan was like, oh, I don't
see Agatha like coming back, like any of these characters,
and I was like, I don't know, Like I feel
like once we get Mephisto, stuff like these characters could
be around, especially Plaza and Haunt, and I honestly hope
so I hon, I'm I'm completely before I think when
we talk about like the Midnight Sun's roster. When we
heard rumors of her, I was like, yeah, like that
works now, I'm like a fall and okay, get Han
on the team. Actually, if there's a if there's a
Avengers six, you know on Midnight Sun, sick, I think
Han should get a small But yeah, they said they're
talking about uh Agatha's son, which that's that was the theory.
We didn't talk about Kirkham, but I didn't pick up
on it. But there's a whole bunch of stuff where
when she woke up last week there was like kid
drawings and all this stuff. There was like a Kid's
award or something. It said like Nicholas scratch which ties
back to you guys where she had that bunny that
was called like mister Scratchy or whatever and Wanda Vision. Yeah,
so like I guess Nicholas scratches like her son. And
then we did talk about the lockett about that being
I don't think we said her son, I don't I
don't think we had that conversation, but the locket that
had some hair in it. I think we just talked
about what it could be when it's revealed. But yeah,
that seems to be the working theory. Do I think
that she actually gave her son up for the dark Hole? No,
I think they're making it seem that way, very much
like WandaVision, that there's gonna be like a reveal. I
would love if they like stuck to it, like I
would love it if they just had the cohonis she
like gave up her kid And I was just like,
but because she's leading in a show now and they've
made her very like kind of funny, I just don't see.
I don't see that being the reveal, and like, I
just maybe if there's something more to it. But if
it's just I want power and I gave it my son,
you know, if it's something like, oh, I made a
deal so I could get my son back, but he's
a dark old fine. But if it's like literally just
black and white, Yeah, I won that book and I
give it my son and fuck him. Like, I don't
think it's gonna be that so, but it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I I kind of hope it goes that route, just
because I like it's it feels like we have in
maybe more evil character on the on like at the start,
because obviously that would have been like the most darkest
thing she could have done on her in her little
witch career. But I'm assuming, yeah, she's gonna be in
a somewhat anti hero or just hero in general sort
of role going forward, So I feel like that would
be an interesting path to get there, more so than
if she was just always on on like a fully
good side. But yeah, I feel like it is still like.
Speaker 2: You think about hero to villain, He's killed thousands of people, Yeah,
he killed Colson, No one ever talks about.
Speaker 1: That, killed absolutely with here and now, Yeah exactly, So
I think it's still potential that that could be the
actual case. I did like in this episode how it
seemed like she, like when they're doing the drinking of
the wine and she's the last person to do it.
I did like how she was just like kind of
doing her own thing and kind of trying to play
like her own coven in that sense, And it just
seemed like a trait for at least the Agatha that
I I don't know, I've been experienced to so far
in the MCU, like, I would believe that is something
that she would do, And I feel like I would
believe that she would have done that, like traded her
son for the Dark Hold, and yeah, that was part
of me that that was kind of what you were
hinting at last week, right about that spoiler that you
got exposed to and about him being her son.
Speaker 2: No that's not no, no, that's not the spoiler.
Speaker 3: You knew this is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No, So you haven't been spoiled on the did you
got spoiled on? Yeah? Okay, no, that was just no,
that's just that was just a theory. That's that that
wasn't out there. You're not spoiled on the big thing yet.
I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think that's good.
Speaker 1: Then that's good.
Speaker 2: Then it doesn't. I mean, do you remember the identity
of teen? Who teen is?
Speaker 4: Isn't it?
Speaker 2: Can I say, oh my god, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I didn't say.
Speaker 3: I didn't say I know.
Speaker 2: But can I say, uh, like you're talking about like
a loaded gun.
Speaker 3: I think I can say who it could be.
Speaker 2: But I don't even speculation, So I don't even say that. Well,
let Kirkland speculate, but don't because you know, no, I
I revealed it in the Spoil and the Predictions episode
that Kirklin was not on because to me, it's like public,
everyone fucking knows.
Speaker 4: That's like on the and that's like, that's one hundred
percent like certainty, because I feel like after this episode
it could have it's like it could be someone else.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's one hundred percent certainty. They could
be referring to certain characters because they've maybe been this
is exciting, they've been put into a different situation. But
I don't think, like I know what they're trying to do.
They're trying to get us off the the Witch's road,
but it's definitely that character. So I'm telling you it's
just I'll pizza bet.
Speaker 3: You it's the new ghost writer. I'm not pizza betting.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so as they were talking about her son,
yeah they brought up but we don't know what happened.
Could have got sacrificed, could have been a demon, could
have been an Asian Mephisto. And yeah, I to me
again like that, I can't think of anything. Wanavision was
only kind of mentioned because even like it was only
a theory, but even the writers are like, yeah, we
never going to the Mephisto route, And I don't think
it wasn't doctor Strange. So I think This just makes sense.
It's leading the breadcrumbs for whether it's an end credit
or there's you know, heavy rumor sees in a Disney
Plus show coming up, like remember Sasha Baron Cohens wills
to be playing him. So I think they're just starting
to plant those seeds for that character's arrival. And it
is kind of fun for them to drop that here
because that was the biggest working theory and want vision
right that, Like I was on that bandway you know,
it's definitely my fist, so it has to be Mephisto
And it really was just I Gotha all along, but
I guess it was just one to too who was
the villain until last episode where they're like, remember how
much you sacrificed for the city. It's yeah, all right,
yeah yeah what about I was gonna say, do you
have any uh thoughts on teen right now? Because now
he does know about the spell that they've found that
out that someone put a hex or a spell? Yeah yeah,
what a situal? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like Teen. I not my favorite MCU show character
side character that's been introduced, like you know he's no,
oh my gosh, what was his name? The short round?
Oh my gosh from Loki. My goodness, Oh my gosh,
I'm having a total brain collapse right now.
Speaker 2: Go and get Nominee too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listeners are just pulling their hair out right now. Obi,
there you go, There you go. I saw Taylor type
in it, but I got it, like, you know, like
like not to that level. But I'm still liking him
in the show. I feel like he's not an annoying character,
which is nice. I don't know curious what Taylor is
his issues.
Speaker 2: With, right because yeah, it's spiesy.
Speaker 4: It was just the way the character I feel like
was written in that first two episodes. He just he
pops in and he feels like he's more of a
like a nuisance character. And I didn't like the kind
of humor, like can you write, can you write this down?
Like oh, just those little jokes like it wasn't working
for me. I liked him when he was introduced how
he was breaking out this curse, and he just he
knew kind of what he was doing.
Speaker 3: He was very confident. I liked this young kid.
Speaker 4: Coming in to play here who was very confident and
wanted to just get more power and become more immersed
in this world. I really really liked that, But it's
just the way that he just back It felt like
it was backtracking where his character was just kind of
too humorous and to this and that that's why I
liked him more on this episode, because he was very knowledgeable,
and when they had that mysterious like sigil thing cast
on him with all the witches, are like, okay, like,
what's going on this guy?
Speaker 3: This kid's a mystery.
Speaker 4: But then when he's actually in the house with all
the other witches and he's he's dropping little bits of
knowledge and little bits of insight to kind of help.
And his confidence too. I really liked when he told
like I felt like, you need to drink that the
wine right now. Like I like seeing him being in
this more confident role, knowing and being able to pull
from his archive of knowledge. I like that more than
the guy trying to just whip out his notebook and
just writing little things down the witches say, So, that's
the kind of character that I would like to see
more kind of shine through.
Speaker 2: Fair Enough. Yeah, I still like the character. It's funny
because I think it was he was Mike somebody their
discord mentioned about his accent because I don't watch Heartbreaker,
so mentioned this accent would come through, and then Emily,
who does watch Heartbreaker, was watching this episode with me.
I mentioned that, and there was a couple of times
I can tell any tell me yells like he slips
back and whatever his accent is and it's kind of funny.
But yeah, I guess for me, I didn't mind his
I almost felt like he was very like I liked
him in the first episode, so I guess, like I'm
not on tis Man Wigan anyways, but like, I felt
like he was barely in this episode, like he's around,
like he was around saying some stuff. But I felt
like versus episode one, episode two, his screen time was
reduced greatly. I don't think that means like, oh, the
character is not gonna be around. I just think it's
just that I think a few more characters are gonna die,
and I think he's gonna make it to like the
final four three, right, Like I think he's gonna be
around for a while. Where someone like missus Hart, let's say,
if she is dead, then it's like, well make her
be around, right, I would.
Speaker 1: Have been my bet, you know, first one to go
probably that Charte No Hart yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Like, what's her real name again, Kitty, No, that's Sharon
Sharon Love. I can't remember which says that Sharon. No, No,
I meant in the show Confusion, her name is Sharon,
not Sharon Hart. Their last name is missus Hart, so
they call her right. No, my god, we're on a
roll tite. Missus Hart is the character that Agatha gave her,
Wanda gave.
Speaker 4: Her, so that's what a But even all the other
witches are just calling her by the wrong name.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so, because remember when she dies
this episode, they're like, oh my god, Sharon's dead, and
she's like, who's Sharon? Yeah, so no, because she knows
her is missus Hart because Agatha was also in the.
Speaker 4: But everyone else keeps calling her, like even teens like
missus Hart say.
Speaker 2: They all were calling that. I thought a couple of
them were calling her by her real name there, Sharon. Yeah.
I think she'll be back either way. I think one
way or not even know if it's like a possession.
I think she'll be back. I just I doubt that's
the end of her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could, I could buy I could buy a
ticket on that train just to I don't know, like
just to have her throughout the whole season. I like
getting that actress back. I would have assumed that she'd
be a part of the the whole, the whole journey.
I feel like I was kind of just surprised that
she did, well, you know, supposedly die in this episode.
Like it was a chackra reveal. But I did really
love the the Catherine han Lyne delivery at the end there.
That was hilarious.
Speaker 2: So why do you guys think she died though?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I imagine because she doesn't have the potential for magic.
I don't know, that was my first thought, Taylor.
Speaker 4: I feel like because when they were building the coven,
it was just like there's witches, no matter like what
like she she she is not maybe a witch, but
she definitely has powers witch powers to her. I think
that's why they were able to get her.
Speaker 3: Ah, But why did she die?
Speaker 1: I brought this up because we like her parents. That's why.
Speaker 2: Because my five year old Logan had astute observation that
when they're making the potion, uh, they didn't take a
hair from her. They gave her the shot.
Speaker 4: Logan, Fuck, that's a fucking crazy crazy Now.
Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, and if Logan's wrong, let me know.
But I didn't see them take a hair from her
because she was on the table, right, And that's why
I was wondering if that was something. I do think
it might just be like she's just not a witch
and she's dead. But I'm like, I hope Logan's version
is right, because I feel like that'd be a great
kind of screw up on the witch's part of like
they were like so frantic and they didn't take her hair,
and it's like, well that's why it's like they made
the potion, but you need the hair from person to
make sure they survived.
Speaker 3: So I was just getting the fucking MCU scoops here too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she knows Hutina is. She's what I told me.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, yeah, pizza better.
Speaker 2: You're like, no, that's not I lose every time she's
sitting on amount of pizza boxes. Yeah, look out for
the Logan podcast in twenty years when she's breaking down
the the MC on its second reboot when I ken't
Figy's son is taking it over. But uh yeah, the house,
I want to talk about the house. Uh yeah, that's
where just everything like what I was worried about the
show initially was the whole everyone getting like the bowtox
long legs face like that's I was kind of like, eh,
like this is all like this is very Disney Channel, like, oh,
this is a look on our face? Is what a curse?
And I think the only thing I really liked in
this house was the hallucinations portion. I thought that was
great seeing them have all different moments that felt very halloweeny,
had some horror moments, but yeah, I was I wish this,
like I said, the NONSWS was later on and it
was just even the house. I wish it was maybe
like a old and decrepit house and stead like I
wish the whole theme was different, not the real housewives
with they're looking nice and jewelry and pretty hair and everything,
and it gets like I said, it's like a botox
curse at the beginning. I just wish it was something
a decrepit house I would have liked even more. So, So, yeah,
I didn't love that, but the hallucination and stuff was
really good. And I thought Catherine Hunt again in a
serious route act the ship out of that hallucination getting
that one tear down her face and just really sold
like this whatever happened, uh, clearly tragic thing. So yeah,
like I said, I kind of rolled my eyes when
they looked down the road and it just revealed like
a golden the house. It just looked like a cgi
like oh no, and it just like I said, just
looked like it's this is probably another house that was
on the set of WandaVision that they didn't use, and like, oh,
well we can go there and film that. So you know,
there's some fine stuff. Lonely, I think if if, if
she is dead, you know, uh, missus Hart had some
good moments throughout the episode and even in here. But yeah,
so it was all right, but not uh not was
not what I was throbbing for after last week, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, my vines were throbbing for more. I think
it's a fair observe observation that you just made it.
It was a weird way to say that, but I
I feel like, because it did feel like a WandaVision house,
I was expecting it to get maybe like I feel
like when WandaVision like think of the first step sort
of Wanavision, when it's when it's just like I don't
know what era it is, but it's like very old
timey and like it just seemed way different than like
a modern home. I think when they first were going
into the house, I was expecting it to get like that,
like that weird, but it was just a modern home
with not much to it. I was maybe expecting also
like a lot more easter eggs isn't really the right word,
but maybe just like more significant items or like significant
things to our characters, like in the house.
Speaker 2: I know they are hollow the house like that just
like a set, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it very much did feel like a set, like
like when they have the hallucinations that were very personal,
Like I was expecting to see like, you know, personal
items in the home, and it didn't really seem to
get there. So yeah, now that you mentioned, I feel
like I like the house less. But yeah, overall, I
feel like I did like the actual content of what
was going on. I did in joy the weird botox
face sequence. I also really liked how there was like
the fact that Sharon took the wine first, so she
was going through it like as I said, the canary
in the in the coal mine situation, but more so
because of Agatha taking it like way later, Like I
liked when she had her hallucination way later after everyone else,
is when they're making the potion and she's about to
take her hair, and then it just felt a lot
more I don't know, like significant, not really, but maybe
just more focused on you know, our lead, Agatha so I,
And it just felt like like everyone's hallucination was pretty
fucked up, but hers was just like super raw, especially
when she takes it over and like I was expecting
to see a baby or something and it's just this
fucking old book looking like an ecronomic on or something.
Speaker 2: But what did you take from the other ones? Because
you had the I can't remember all their characters, I'll
pull byme to be but you had the potion's master
who was that was a scary one too, like she's
getting drowned at a sing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You had the other one that saw the a doll
like a girl dressed like a doll outfit, speaking different
language and she looks in a room and lots of
dead stuff going on, and and then the other one
was just her mom like in a sauna, which was
didn't have didn't hit me as hard as I actually
wanted it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they're really freaky. I thought when Lilia,
I think is the lady that like sees it first
or I can't remember who saw it first, but specifically
for lilias when she just sees that like character just
standing in the hallway, I was just like, oh man,
we're getting like paranormal now, this is this is totally
starting to get spooky. And I think they could have
gone like a like maybe a notch more in the
scary direction, but I, I don't know, it is still
Disney and like the MCU stuff, so I I don't
know it was an appropriate level. But yeah, the drowning
that one like shocked me. I just wasn't expecting it
to get like that. I thought it was gonna be
like I don't know, father, he just grabs her and
just starts fucking drowning. I'm like, oh my god, Okay,
this is really happening.
Speaker 2: But yeah, do we think we get more on like
I know Agatha's we're going to get more because she's
our main character and they're talking a bunch about that.
Do you we think we get more expanded on these
or is this kind of end of the road for
the other hallucinations because I'm I'm kind of fifty to
fifty on that one. To be honest, I personally want
there to be more, but I just wonder if time
and I and when I say more, I don't want
to just be the character in two lines, be like, yeah,
I had this abusive boyfriend and tried to draw me
a sink and that's it. Like I would like there
to be some full moments. I'd like a better version
h Kirkling, you know, not to bring things down and
raise another but a better version of the Rebel Moon
dinner scene. You know, maybe maybe that go around talk
about their their.
Speaker 1: Vision line and that line delivery from that chob you.
Speaker 2: Tell your story, all of us before we die, tell
your story. Thanks John and Hunts you did you just
watch them or something? No, I just remember it, and
that was not I was paraphrasing, but like, just because
we spent a lot of time, believe it sounded verbatim.
Speaker 1: It's a question for me. I was gonna pass the everybody, everybody, everybody.
Speaker 3: Sorry, what is the question? Okay, I'll go.
Speaker 1: Uh, I can't remember the question. Travis, you are.
Speaker 2: You actually not? Are we going to get more on
these hallucinations, I think.
Speaker 1: So, I think questions about Jamond Hudson and sucking rebel
moon you speak, just got handed a pot of gold?
What what is that? You just got hand delivered me
this top of ice cream. It looked like literally the
hand of God just coming down from the from your webars.
Speaker 2: Dog ship whydge tracks, it's what fudge trucks, it's dog.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm supposed to eat this shouldn't
look happier when she handed it to me?
Speaker 2: Why would she not? Is this a test for you?
I don't know. Is this like a trial right now?
What's fuzze tracks? And what's dog shit?
Speaker 3: It's just chocolates's cups, you know, Kirk for me.
Speaker 2: Through a break. We need to have them over here.
Speaker 1: Yes, please, let's get a breather. Okay, we'll be right back. Okay,
we're back on the fudge, the fudge road to hallucinations.
Speaker 2: We're gonna see what. We're gonna get them expand part
of me.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think we will, especially for our potions Master
Lilya and the lady with her her mother. This is horrible.
I gotta get im vy up. Yeah, what are my
gosh I'm dying. Alice is the lady with her mother.
Jennifer is the postmaster, and Lilya is the what would
you call her, the the fortune teller later, Oh, yeah,
that lady. I feel like, definitely those three we'll get
at least some on there. I feel like the lady
with her mother, Alice, I don't know, it seemed like
her mother was like a significant figure, so I would
expect to at least get something about that, especially the
idea of like she actually died on the road, so yeah,
or maybe she was missing, maybe she's still out there.
Like I feel like we will get at least those three,
but definitely at least Alice's Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, like I said, I'm fifty to fifty. Yeah, I
think you're right, Alice. But that's kind of like you'll
get explained because imagine they'll find her or find her skeleton,
like they'll find something. Maybe she's posessed, maybe she's evil,
maybe she's like the final boss at the end. I
don't know. I did love she's someone or Grandma being dead,
and then there was some stuff going on the fire.
I don't know it was. That's one where especially we
feel so I guess say now I'll take that back.
They all feel kind of random because I can't tell
you why she's getting like Jennifer's getting almost drowned. I
can't tell you why Lilya is seeing dead children and stuff.
So yeah, I hope there's more of those, and I
guess that could happen with the trials, right, So yeah,
well we'll get Fudge Track's opinion when he gets back there.
Speaker 1: Since he's cleaning his fudge tracks. Yeah. I was gonna
ask because I about the scene that was what we were
to say that. I think that the scene between Lilya
and Agatha was kind of strange when Agatha or fuck Lilia,
she says have to save Agatha, Like what did you
get out of that line to Like, it was just
so strange the way that Agatha reacted as well of
like yeah, I know we will, but like we got
to do this first. It was just a really weird life.
Like I had to rewind it just because I thought
I had missed something. I don't know it was well
because remember.
Speaker 2: That happened lily in either episode one or two where
she gets flashes of the future and she just blurts
it out. So I think that's a character in the future.
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot about that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's telling her you gotta save Agatha. So
that's something that I think that at one point this
character will bite it or no, sorry, another character will
bite it and then tell Lilia or something to that
that effect. So yeah, that's what was just her seeing
parts of the future.
Speaker 1: So shitt ingrid. This guy's gone.
Speaker 2: That's not a mustache, it's fuzz trackses. Yeah, Taylor, hallucinations,
you think we're going to more on those and any
thoughts on them?
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be jetting more hallucinations, as gentle one.
Speaker 2: Right now, is this woman trying to get a podcast
in voice? What's going on? Unless she's standing there naked,
there's no ing her now it's cocks out just under
the table.
Speaker 3: But no, I think the hallucinations are I think the.
Speaker 2: Holy what was your favorite one? Start that.
Speaker 4: My favorite hallucination was the the Italian woman having the
weird like the demonic like young girl and demonic old
woman because it's like, what's going on here? Because there's
definitely some backstory there and I want to know what's
going on. Anything ringing at that I hope we do,
because they really laid it on hard that we're going
to be getting some like some serious backstory with these characters.
And I know Agatha's our main actress and our main
character here that they're going to be focusing on, which
makes sense. But it definitely would be a shame to
just put this.
Speaker 3: This backstory out and not follow up or follow through
with it.
Speaker 2: Right, I believe, so, Like I hope it's just not
for a because if they were going to do just
hallucinations for the effect of, hey, we want these characters
to move on, these characters to just see a bunch
of crazy shit, then I wish they were just through
some monsters in there, right, But they they didn't. To me.
They felt like they were all personal things that felt
confusing in the best way where it's like, Okay, what
could this more? What more could this be about?
Speaker 1: So mm hmm, agreed.
Speaker 2: Anything else talked about the Sun, We talked about the
Covens Hallucinations ended with Missus Heart Dying.
Speaker 1: Do you think every episode is going to be like
actually off the road, like they're they're on the road
between episodes and then every episode is like look at this,
and then they go into a location.
Speaker 2: Primarily I think it was what is it supposed to be?
Is it eight or nine episodes? Let me just pull
us up here. I can't remember you got here? It said, well,
that doesn't help me, thanks IMDb, because I was looking
at what was the person who plays Jennifer her IMDb
and it says she's in two episodes, but she's a
nine episodes, nine episodes, so.
Speaker 1: Now he's on October thirtieth. Look at that, right, look
at that?
Speaker 2: Okay, right, Halloween. So let's see, there's six episodes. I
would say like one to two would take place on
the actual Actually I'll say one and a half, but
then I think the rest will be trials locations because
if each which has a trial not counting team. But
there's one, two, three, four, five, so five, so we're
down to so well, actually it could just be the
finale because if we have six episodes left and we
have well no, I get no, Okay, so we got one.
So there's four trials left, six episodes, so that's I
feel like my assumption of one and a half to
two episodes of The Witch's Road is probably what we're
gonna get. And even then, I just I don't know.
Maybe they just maybe they thought the road would be
a cool idea, but it's just like a blue road
the whole time, which is like all.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, you know, so I think like a lot
of stuff going on on that blue road as well,
could really, I don't know, diminish the quality get Yeah,
maybe log truck, a lot.
Speaker 2: Of volume shots of King like the same road and everything,
but I'd like there would be some sequence like I
hope there's like a really good they did establish that
those what of the Salem's six or seven whatever that
they they didn't go down that door, but they're like, oh,
something's chasing anython, it's our problem now. So they did
to me confirm, Okay, that's gonna come back as a threat.
So I wouldn't mind like a Witch's Road like chase scene,
Like I think that could be fun. And we got
to like, I guess we still got like ms Hart
did go off the Witch's Road a little bit, right.
We found that like oil quicksand so it's not out
of the remal possibility. Maybe it's just something like that
where each episode will be something on the road that
you know, causes a problem into our actual episode so.
Speaker 4: I just want to shout out the little that's great,
little Eastern kind of thing where I can't remember. The
Italian witch is named the Older Yeah Lily, yeah, thank you.
So she uh there the oven opens up, waters coming in,
like this is how they get out. She's like, I'm
not getting an oven. I I knew a witch that
got into an oven once had a very lovely house.
And I like that because we all know the Handsel
Gretel's story. Jeremy Reyner, Jeremy Renner, don't just change his name.
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Speaker 1: So beautiful, anything else, gentlemen.
Speaker 2: No, we end in the episode with a patroon. Yeah,
ver much I gets. I think this one maybe was shorter,
But like I said, we talked about the sun, we
talked about the trial, we talked about the hallucinations, trying
to think there's any We talk about my fisto. H yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think that this is going to appear in
this in this season.
Speaker 2: If he does, it's just end credit to me. I
think I said down the predictions. I'm still with that
where I think that the rumors are he's has a
roll or a main like antagonists rolling Ironheart, so I
feel like they would and I feel like them dropping
him here. I think an end credit could be a
worthy setup.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree. Cool? All right, Well tune in
next time for what's this show actually called Agatha?
Speaker 2: All that was my bad again? I did that last
week where I just put Agatha and it has to be.
Speaker 1: Think I keep looking up, and that's just what I
go by. I'm like Ron Burgundy, just go off the teleprompter.
But yes, Egatha along. We'll be keep going down this
witch's road, and we'll be back for ups four. Until then,
bye bye, bye bye