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Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's me CJ. How's everyone doing? Hopefully great?
Speaker 2: Did you realize six years ago this month we began
Speaker 2: the COVID nineteen lockdown internationally. The time has flown by,
Speaker 2: because being in those beginning stages of the pandemic, they
Speaker 2: still seem very recent to me. I remember I had
Speaker 2: just moved to California from Louisiana and I went to
Speaker 2: live with my friend Low in Chico, California. We jokingly
Speaker 2: call each other a COVID wife. It was the very
Speaker 2: first time I had ever used a shopping service to
Speaker 2: do my grocery shopping. Lowe was a professor at the
Speaker 2: university and I was retired, so even though she did
Speaker 2: a lot of her work remotely, I did nearly all
Speaker 2: the cooking for us. During the next year, I lost
Speaker 2: my COVID wife because she met her real life wife
Speaker 2: and she to be with her new wife near the
Speaker 2: Sacramento area. I had given my daughter my car in Louisiana,
Speaker 2: so I was without a vehicle and I walked everywhere
Speaker 2: until my house in Hawaii finally sold and a car
Speaker 2: was my first purchase. Then I started my house shopping
Speaker 2: journey on the coast of Oregon. My daughter and I
Speaker 2: went up the coast for a few days and we
Speaker 2: met with a realtor who showed us homes. We had
Speaker 2: our masks on, of course, but none of the houses
Speaker 2: we were shown caught my eye. So we returned home,
Speaker 2: and wouldn't you know it, I drove all the way
Speaker 2: back to Chico, about an eight hour drive with potty brakes.
Speaker 2: Having COVID. I was so sick and I slept for
Speaker 2: days after. I remember I was supposed to have an
Speaker 2: interview with lesbian boxing legend Christy Martin the courtesy of Netflix,
Speaker 2: but I had to cancel it. I could barely lift
Speaker 2: my head. A few weeks later, my realtor saw a
Speaker 2: car more houses in the area that I was looking
Speaker 2: at on the coast, and she facetimed me. We did
Speaker 2: some walkthroughs over FaceTime until I finally settled on the
Speaker 2: house that I'm in. Yep, the two story menace house
Speaker 2: with both bathrooms upstairs and no dining room in a
Speaker 2: tiny kitchen. To be honest, it was the backyard that
Speaker 2: sold me on the house, so many trees and such
Speaker 2: a naturey fill to it. It was just me, my
Speaker 2: two kiddies, Lily and Calli, and my sweet baby pup, Milla.
Speaker 2: It was perfect for the four of us. Nearly daily
Speaker 2: I would see deer walk through my backyard because it
Speaker 2: was unfenced at the time. We had six wild turkeys
Speaker 2: who would come up on my deck in the backyard
Speaker 2: and they'd peer into my glass sliding doors at me.
Speaker 2: Was almost like there were micromanaging me while I was
Speaker 2: working on my podcast, but it was very endearing. There
Speaker 2: was something, though, that it seemed to be missing. During
Speaker 2: that time. I felt so alone because human contact was
Speaker 2: no longer available to me. I missgiving and getting hugs
Speaker 2: from my daughter, my friends, from anyone. At that point.
Speaker 2: It was truly making me a little stir crazy, especially
Speaker 2: when I actually thought about it. My animals were the
Speaker 2: only ones keeping me sane. That and my new founded
Speaker 2: podcast Friends and creating Darkcast Network. The international cease of
Speaker 2: the COVID lockdown ended in May of twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: although I think many of us ended it long before then. Yeah,
Speaker 2: many of us still wore mass out in public, but
Speaker 2: we were tired of condemning ourselves to home. Disappointingly, even
Speaker 2: though the lockdown had ended, I still had no friends
Speaker 2: on the coast of Oregon by the time my daughter
Speaker 2: and her boyfriend moved here with me in June of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Now, this little reminiscence of mine about
Speaker 2: the COVID lockdown isn't for naught. It was just a
Speaker 2: little reminder for me and hopefully got you thinking about
Speaker 2: how you were getting through the lockdown. Our main case.
Speaker 2: This episode occurred during the COVID nineteen lockdown in Birmingham,
Speaker 2: England in twenty twenty. Twenty Eight year old Phoenix Nets
Speaker 2: was a beautiful young lady who's been described as having
Speaker 2: such a kind spirit. She was sweet natured, but that
Speaker 2: made her somewhat vulnerable to being exploited for her kindness.
Speaker 2: Phoenix attended the Canterbury christ Church University in Kent for
Speaker 2: a couple of years. She had dreams to become a paramedic,
Speaker 2: but Phoenix did not complete her four years and she
Speaker 2: left the university. Upon her departure from school, she decided
Speaker 2: to move to Birmingham. As life would have it. Circumstance,
Speaker 2: stances beyond her control came up against Phoenix, and by
Speaker 2: late twenty nineteen early twenty twenty, she found herself living
Speaker 2: in a women's refuge shared housing type apartment thing that
Speaker 2: was ran by a service for homeless people. Phoenix shared
Speaker 2: her space with another young woman. This woman was twenty
Speaker 2: seven year old Goreka Gordon. Greka was born in Jamaica
Speaker 2: and she moved to England at the age of seven.
Speaker 2: She lived with an aunt until her mother arrived and
Speaker 2: could take her. Apparently, according to Greka's mother, she experienced
Speaker 2: a lot of trauma growing up. But Greka's trauma didn't
Speaker 2: end there. As an adult, Goreka was in a relationship
Speaker 2: with a man who abused her and he sold her
Speaker 2: for sex work in the initial weeks of the two
Speaker 2: women living in the same flat, they became friends. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was COVID lockdown time and they only truly were
Speaker 2: supposed to be around each other. They were each other's
Speaker 2: COVID wives. As the weeks turned into months of being
Speaker 2: stuck inside with each other, the mental wiring of Greka
Speaker 2: was faltering. She started to obsess over Phoenix. She began
Speaker 2: making sexual advances towards Phoenix as well, who at first
Speaker 2: politely turned Greka down. Then Greka's sexual advances became more
Speaker 2: intense and demanding, even physical, as she started to push
Speaker 2: Phoenix around the room when Phoenix rejected her. Phoenix became
Speaker 2: more frightened living with Greka. She told her roommate that
Speaker 2: she was going to go live with her family again
Speaker 2: in London. Within days of informing Gureka that she'd be leaving,
Speaker 2: Greka snapped. She took a knife and she stabbed Phoenix
Speaker 2: four times in her chests and torso, leaving Phoenix to
Speaker 2: bleed out on the floor. Phoenix at that moment was
Speaker 2: still very much alive, and she could have survived the
Speaker 2: stab wounds had Garrika just called for emergency services, but instead,
Speaker 2: the cold and calculated. Greka just stood by and watched
Speaker 2: Phoenix bleed out until Phoenix was dead. It's been surmised
Speaker 2: by experts it could have taken up to twelve hours
Speaker 2: for Phoenix to actually die. To me, that's really cold,
Speaker 2: a slow, painstaking murder and letting someone suffer for so long.
Speaker 2: Greka might have thought the same because she used phoenix
Speaker 2: phone to look up things like can someone recover from
Speaker 2: getting stabbed, how to fix a punctured lung, and internal bleeding.
Speaker 2: Although she looked those things up, she's still never got
Speaker 2: any help for Phoenix. She was sure. If Phoenix was dead,
Speaker 2: Greka used a circular saw to dismember Phoenix's body. Then
Speaker 2: she put the body parts into two suitcases to throw
Speaker 2: any of Phoenix's family off course, Goreka would text from
Speaker 2: Phoenix's phone. She even downloaded an app to imitate Phoenix's
Speaker 2: voice so she could send the family voice messages and
Speaker 2: sound like Phoenix. In the course of the following month
Speaker 2: or so, Goreka made a number of trips to the
Speaker 2: Forest of Dean. This is an ancient twenty six thousand
Speaker 2: acre royal woodland in western Gloucestershire, England. Greka had also
Speaker 2: made some more searches on Phoenix's phone, such as how
Speaker 2: do killers get caught? And can a body burn to
Speaker 2: ashes with petrol? On one of her many trips back
Speaker 2: to the forest to check on the suitcases that she
Speaker 2: had ditched there, Goreka had tried to burn Phoenix's body
Speaker 2: in May. As Goreka was on one of her trips
Speaker 2: to the forest, police officers spotted her. Knowing everyone was
Speaker 2: supposed to be on the COVID lockdown, police approached her
Speaker 2: and the two suitcases she had in each hand. Somewhat
Speaker 2: Surprised by the confrontation, Greka told them, Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: You weren't supposed to see me like this. Well that's
Speaker 2: a little understated, wasn't it, Grika. The officers assumed at
Speaker 2: first what Greka had was most likely a drug stash
Speaker 2: or maybe stolen property. When they reached for the suitcases
Speaker 2: that she was handling, Greka pushed them away, but the
Speaker 2: officers were able to get the upper hand on her,
Speaker 2: and when they opened the suitcases, they were shocked to
Speaker 2: find human remains, some of which had been charred. Goreka
Speaker 2: was arrested and she was charged charge for the murder
Speaker 2: and dismemberment of Phoenix Nets. Greka had to undergo a
Speaker 2: psychiatric evaluation. It was determined she had some type of
Speaker 2: personality disorder. It was possibly brought on from her earlier traumas.
Speaker 2: During her trial, the judge acknowledged Goreka's diagnosis and her
Speaker 2: previous trauma, but the judge declared that neither of those
Speaker 2: factors distorted Greka's reality enough to explain the murder or
Speaker 2: diminish her culpability. Greka, who was found guilty, was sentenced
Speaker 2: to a minimum of twenty three years in prison. This
Speaker 2: was a horrific tragedy. What the fuck was Goreka thinking?
Speaker 2: First of all, to make continued sexual advances towards a
Speaker 2: woman who obviously didn't want anything like that with her,
Speaker 2: then to murder that same woman who rejected her. And
Speaker 2: the worst part to me, besides the murder, of course,
Speaker 2: was that she represented herself as Phoenix to her family
Speaker 2: and friends, so they would think that Phoenix was alive
Speaker 2: and well, yes, there had to be some sort of
Speaker 2: mental illness going on for anyone to be that devious
Speaker 2: and malevolent rest in power Phoenix our True Crime Quiki.
Speaker 2: This episode is from San Antonio, Texas in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Again we have a couple of grinder murders for this case.
Speaker 2: I tell you, guys, I'm positive I could do a
Speaker 2: whole season with both the main case and the true
Speaker 2: crime QUICKI case being a grinder murder. I feel like
Speaker 2: they come up just so damn often. As I said,
Speaker 2: we're going to San Antonio, Texas, home of the famous
Speaker 2: San Antonio Riverwalk and the Alamo. Remember the Alamo? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't either, But if if history serves me correct,
Speaker 2: it says Spanish Mission and Fortress, where a battle for
Speaker 2: Texas was fought in the eighteen hundreds. And there is
Speaker 2: also something to do with Davy Crockett being there. But anyway,
Speaker 2: my vague history lesson isn't what we're here for. It's
Speaker 2: the case. In March of twenty twenty two, a twenty
Speaker 2: five year old black man by the name of Giranti
Speaker 2: Pleasant wasn't so pleasant. He was using the alias of
Speaker 2: Derek to meet man on Grinder. That March of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, Giranti met up with an unnamed man on Grinder.
Speaker 2: Girante then shot the man, robbed the man, and fled
Speaker 2: the scene. Luckily, the man would survive. In July of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, Gironti sexually assaulted a thirteen year old,
Speaker 2: though I am not sure what gender this child is. Then,
Speaker 2: in April of twenty twenty three, Gironti began talk teking
Speaker 2: to fifty four year old Larry Wilson on Grinder under
Speaker 2: his pseudonym Derek. He was also talking to twenty two
Speaker 2: year old Joseph West on Grinder. April fourteenth, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: Gironti and Larry Wilson would meet up in Larry's white
Speaker 2: Ford expedition at the Banyan Tree Apartments. This is located
Speaker 2: in northeast San Antonio. Larry had a few medical issues,
Speaker 2: including epilepsy. He had had an aneurysm, and he had
Speaker 2: also suffered several heart attacks. Before meeting up with Giranti,
Speaker 2: Larry had texted his brother, who controlled his finances, and
Speaker 2: asked him to cash app over one hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: That was supposedly so Larry could go grocery shopping. Giranti
Speaker 2: is the one who suggested the meet up with Larry,
Speaker 2: and Larry obliged. Giranti said that he'd be wearing a
Speaker 2: red hoodie. Upon seeing Larry's SUV parked in the apartment complex,
Speaker 2: Doirronty approached. He pulled out a handgun and he fired
Speaker 2: several shots into the expedition and into Larry from the
Speaker 2: passenger side of the vehicle. Then he robbed Larry and
Speaker 2: fled the scene. Larry would die in his vehicle. Doirante
Speaker 2: was even brazen enough to commit these crimes. With witnesses
Speaker 2: about Larry's family began to suspect something was wrong when
Speaker 2: that night Larry didn't respond to a family group text.
Speaker 2: You see, this is so sweet to me. Larry's mom
Speaker 2: would send a group text to her family saying good night,
Speaker 2: and each member every night would respond back, so when
Speaker 2: Larry didn't respond, they knew something was up. The following day,
Speaker 2: the family was notified Larry was deceased and a homicide
Speaker 2: investigation was taking place. Also the following day, Giranti would
Speaker 2: convince the other man who was speaking to on grinder,
Speaker 2: twenty two year old Joseph West, to meet up with them.
Speaker 2: Joseph invited Girante to his home, where Girante would shoot
Speaker 2: Joseph in the back of his head Joseph too died.
Speaker 2: Doirante stole what he could find, and then he again
Speaker 2: fled the scene. A few days later, when they hadn't
Speaker 2: heard from him, a couple of Joseph's friends stopped by
Speaker 2: his place. Nobody answered. They peeked into a window and
Speaker 2: they saw a foot not moving on a bed. The
Speaker 2: friends called the fire department, who came and broke down
Speaker 2: the door for entry. Inside, they found a deceased Joseph.
Speaker 2: Now the San Antonio police had two murders and two
Speaker 2: nights on their hands. At Joseph's an open condom wrapper
Speaker 2: was found under his bed containing fingerprints at the SUV
Speaker 2: crime scene of Larry. Wilson's fingerprints were found on the
Speaker 2: Ford expedition. Both sets of fingerprints indicated the same killer
Speaker 2: for both Larry and Joseph. When the fingerprints were ran
Speaker 2: through the database, they hit on Girante. Girante was arrested
Speaker 2: by police in charge with two counts of murder on
Speaker 2: April twenty four, twenty twenty three. Building the case against
Speaker 2: Geronte started to fall into place. Evidence was strong, with
Speaker 2: the fingerprints alone, plus with witnesses coming forward from the
Speaker 2: murder of Larry, the case against Girante was growing. Dirante
Speaker 2: was given a seven hundred thousand dollars bail bond, which
Speaker 2: I don't believe he was able to come up with.
Speaker 2: At his trial, he was found guilty of the murders
Speaker 2: of Larry and Joseph. He was found guilty of robbery
Speaker 2: and attempted murder on the publicly unknown man that Giranti
Speaker 2: had shot but survived, plus the unknown to us thirteen
Speaker 2: year old that he sexually assaulted. The judge in Girante's
Speaker 2: case was not lenient at all. She sentenced Doirante to
Speaker 2: fifty years of incarceration for each murder, fifty years for
Speaker 2: the attempted murder, and fifty years for the sexual assault
Speaker 2: of the child. Total now in cash and prizes two
Speaker 2: hundred years to be served concurrently in the prison system.
Speaker 2: Does it look like the community, any community, will have
Speaker 2: to endure Doerrante's heinous crimes anymore? Damn you guys. One
Speaker 2: thing I love about Texas is they usually throw the
Speaker 2: book hard at perpetrators of violent crimes. Dirante's damn lucky
Speaker 2: he didn't get a death sentence. Rest in power. Larry
Speaker 2: and Joseph thrive in power to Doirante's two other unknown victims.
Speaker 2: Let's see what is out there. This week in the
Speaker 2: way of sunshine, the Treppor Project received a major donation
Speaker 2: of a million dollars from stack overflow. This is to
Speaker 2: support suicide prevention for LGBTQ and youth. Great job. Flame Con,
Speaker 2: the world's largest LGBTQ plus comic convention, announced it will
Speaker 2: move to a larger venue in Times Square for its
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six event dates. That sounds like an incredibly
Speaker 2: fun event. This one actually happened in February last month
Speaker 2: in Chicago. A thirty year old transman named Leo Kundiff
Speaker 2: jumped into the freezing Lake Michigan to save an eight
Speaker 2: month old baby. The baby stroller had blown baby and
Speaker 2: all into the water. Now, Leo is not a swimmer,
Speaker 2: but instinctively he went in without regards for his own safety.
Speaker 2: Both Leo and the baby are fine, thankfully. I've always
Speaker 2: heard Chicago was the windy city, but damn, when strong
Speaker 2: enough to blow a stroller into the lake is crazy.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Leo, You're a hero. That means a couple
Speaker 2: of jokes before we part, What did the trans masculine
Speaker 2: person say after top surgery. I'm glad that's off my chest.
Speaker 2: How do you know your house was burglarized by gays
Speaker 2: when it's broken into and the furniture has been rearranged?
Speaker 2: What do you call a line of gay people an LGBTQ. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that one took me a minute too. Okay, last one, well,
Speaker 2: I was gonna make a gay joke here, but fuck that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that was a really naughty one. I love
Speaker 2: you guys. You matter so much. Remember it is not
Speaker 2: a crime to be gay or to live your truth.
Speaker 2: A sure murderer