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<v Speaker 1>Ever hear a true crime case so wild you had

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<v Speaker 1>to stop and ask who does that?

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<v Speaker 2>Same?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly why we made our podcast Stop Who

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<v Speaker 1>headline making crimes you won't forget. If eure obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>true crime and love the details most people miss.

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<v Speaker 2>Come hang out with us on Stop Who Does That?

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<v Speaker 3>Dootcast network the best of any podcasts. I'm Pat, co

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<v Speaker 3>host of pot of Terra, and you are listening to

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<v Speaker 3>Rainbow Crimes, but hopefully some munical justice.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, it's me CJ. How's everyone doing? Hopefully great?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you realize six years ago this month we began

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<v Speaker 2>the COVID nineteen lockdown internationally. The time has flown by,

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<v Speaker 2>because being in those beginning stages of the pandemic, they

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<v Speaker 2>still seem very recent to me. I remember I had

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<v Speaker 2>just moved to California from Louisiana and I went to

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<v Speaker 2>live with my friend Low in Chico, California. We jokingly

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<v Speaker 2>call each other a COVID wife. It was the very

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<v Speaker 2>first time I had ever used a shopping service to

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<v Speaker 2>do my grocery shopping. Lowe was a professor at the

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<v Speaker 2>university and I was retired, so even though she did

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of her work remotely, I did nearly all

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<v Speaker 2>the cooking for us. During the next year, I lost

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<v Speaker 2>my COVID wife because she met her real life wife

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<v Speaker 2>and she to be with her new wife near the

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<v Speaker 2>Sacramento area. I had given my daughter my car in Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was without a vehicle and I walked everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>until my house in Hawaii finally sold and a car

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<v Speaker 2>was my first purchase. Then I started my house shopping

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<v Speaker 2>journey on the coast of Oregon. My daughter and I

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<v Speaker 2>went up the coast for a few days and we

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<v Speaker 2>met with a realtor who showed us homes. We had

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<v Speaker 2>our masks on, of course, but none of the houses

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<v Speaker 2>we were shown caught my eye. So we returned home,

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<v Speaker 2>and wouldn't you know it, I drove all the way

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<v Speaker 2>back to Chico, about an eight hour drive with potty brakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Having COVID. I was so sick and I slept for

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<v Speaker 2>days after. I remember I was supposed to have an

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<v Speaker 2>interview with lesbian boxing legend Christy Martin the courtesy of Netflix,

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<v Speaker 2>but I had to cancel it. I could barely lift

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<v Speaker 2>my head. A few weeks later, my realtor saw a

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<v Speaker 2>car more houses in the area that I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at on the coast, and she facetimed me. We did

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<v Speaker 2>some walkthroughs over FaceTime until I finally settled on the

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<v Speaker 2>house that I'm in. Yep, the two story menace house

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<v Speaker 2>with both bathrooms upstairs and no dining room in a

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<v Speaker 2>tiny kitchen. To be honest, it was the backyard that

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<v Speaker 2>sold me on the house, so many trees and such

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<v Speaker 2>a naturey fill to it. It was just me, my

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<v Speaker 2>two kiddies, Lily and Calli, and my sweet baby pup, Milla.

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<v Speaker 2>It was perfect for the four of us. Nearly daily

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<v Speaker 2>I would see deer walk through my backyard because it

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<v Speaker 2>was unfenced at the time. We had six wild turkeys

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<v Speaker 2>who would come up on my deck in the backyard

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<v Speaker 2>and they'd peer into my glass sliding doors at me.

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<v Speaker 2>Was almost like there were micromanaging me while I was

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<v Speaker 2>working on my podcast, but it was very endearing. There

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<v Speaker 2>was something, though, that it seemed to be missing. During

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<v Speaker 2>that time. I felt so alone because human contact was

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<v Speaker 2>no longer available to me. I missgiving and getting hugs

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<v Speaker 2>from my daughter, my friends, from anyone. At that point.

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<v Speaker 2>It was truly making me a little stir crazy, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when I actually thought about it. My animals were the

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<v Speaker 2>only ones keeping me sane. That and my new founded

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<v Speaker 2>podcast Friends and creating Darkcast Network. The international cease of

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<v Speaker 2>the COVID lockdown ended in May of twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>although I think many of us ended it long before then. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>many of us still wore mass out in public, but

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<v Speaker 2>we were tired of condemning ourselves to home. Disappointingly, even

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<v Speaker 2>though the lockdown had ended, I still had no friends

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<v Speaker 2>on the coast of Oregon by the time my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. Now, this little reminiscence of mine about

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<v Speaker 2>the COVID lockdown isn't for naught. It was just a

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<v Speaker 2>little reminder for me and hopefully got you thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>how you were getting through the lockdown. Our main case.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode occurred during the COVID nineteen lockdown in Birmingham,

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<v Speaker 2>England in twenty twenty. Twenty Eight year old Phoenix Nets

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<v Speaker 2>was a beautiful young lady who's been described as having

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<v Speaker 2>such a kind spirit. She was sweet natured, but that

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<v Speaker 2>made her somewhat vulnerable to being exploited for her kindness.

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix attended the Canterbury christ Church University in Kent for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years. She had dreams to become a paramedic,

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<v Speaker 2>but Phoenix did not complete her four years and she

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<v Speaker 2>left the university. Upon her departure from school, she decided

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<v Speaker 2>to move to Birmingham. As life would have it. Circumstance,

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<v Speaker 2>stances beyond her control came up against Phoenix, and by

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<v Speaker 2>late twenty nineteen early twenty twenty, she found herself living

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<v Speaker 2>in a women's refuge shared housing type apartment thing that

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<v Speaker 2>was ran by a service for homeless people. Phoenix shared

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<v Speaker 2>her space with another young woman. This woman was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven year old Goreka Gordon. Greka was born in Jamaica

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<v Speaker 2>and she moved to England at the age of seven.

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<v Speaker 2>She lived with an aunt until her mother arrived and

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<v Speaker 2>could take her. Apparently, according to Greka's mother, she experienced

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of trauma growing up. But Greka's trauma didn't

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<v Speaker 2>end there. As an adult, Goreka was in a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with a man who abused her and he sold her

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<v Speaker 2>for sex work in the initial weeks of the two

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<v Speaker 2>women living in the same flat, they became friends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it was COVID lockdown time and they only truly were

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be around each other. They were each other's

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<v Speaker 2>COVID wives. As the weeks turned into months of being

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<v Speaker 2>stuck inside with each other, the mental wiring of Greka

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<v Speaker 2>was faltering. She started to obsess over Phoenix. She began

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<v Speaker 2>making sexual advances towards Phoenix as well, who at first

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<v Speaker 2>politely turned Greka down. Then Greka's sexual advances became more

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<v Speaker 2>intense and demanding, even physical, as she started to push

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix around the room when Phoenix rejected her. Phoenix became

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<v Speaker 2>more frightened living with Greka. She told her roommate that

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<v Speaker 2>she was going to go live with her family again

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<v Speaker 2>in London. Within days of informing Gureka that she'd be leaving,

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<v Speaker 2>Greka snapped. She took a knife and she stabbed Phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>four times in her chests and torso, leaving Phoenix to

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<v Speaker 2>bleed out on the floor. Phoenix at that moment was

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<v Speaker 2>still very much alive, and she could have survived the

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<v Speaker 2>stab wounds had Garrika just called for emergency services, but instead,

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<v Speaker 2>the cold and calculated. Greka just stood by and watched

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix bleed out until Phoenix was dead. It's been surmised

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<v Speaker 2>by experts it could have taken up to twelve hours

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<v Speaker 2>for Phoenix to actually die. To me, that's really cold,

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<v Speaker 2>a slow, painstaking murder and letting someone suffer for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Greka might have thought the same because she used phoenix

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<v Speaker 2>phone to look up things like can someone recover from

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<v Speaker 2>getting stabbed, how to fix a punctured lung, and internal bleeding.

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<v Speaker 2>Although she looked those things up, she's still never got

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<v Speaker 2>any help for Phoenix. She was sure. If Phoenix was dead,

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<v Speaker 2>Greka used a circular saw to dismember Phoenix's body. Then

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<v Speaker 2>she put the body parts into two suitcases to throw

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<v Speaker 2>any of Phoenix's family off course, Goreka would text from

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix's phone. She even downloaded an app to imitate Phoenix's

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<v Speaker 2>voice so she could send the family voice messages and

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<v Speaker 2>sound like Phoenix. In the course of the following month

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<v Speaker 2>or so, Goreka made a number of trips to the

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<v Speaker 2>Forest of Dean. This is an ancient twenty six thousand

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<v Speaker 2>acre royal woodland in western Gloucestershire, England. Greka had also

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<v Speaker 2>made some more searches on Phoenix's phone, such as how

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<v Speaker 2>do killers get caught? And can a body burn to

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<v Speaker 2>ashes with petrol? On one of her many trips back

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<v Speaker 2>to the forest to check on the suitcases that she

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<v Speaker 2>had ditched there, Goreka had tried to burn Phoenix's body

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<v Speaker 2>in May. As Goreka was on one of her trips

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<v Speaker 2>to the forest, police officers spotted her. Knowing everyone was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be on the COVID lockdown, police approached her

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<v Speaker 2>and the two suitcases she had in each hand. Somewhat

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<v Speaker 2>Surprised by the confrontation, Greka told them, Oh, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>You weren't supposed to see me like this. Well that's

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<v Speaker 2>a little understated, wasn't it, Grika. The officers assumed at

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<v Speaker 2>first what Greka had was most likely a drug stash

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe stolen property. When they reached for the suitcases

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<v Speaker 2>that she was handling, Greka pushed them away, but the

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<v Speaker 2>officers were able to get the upper hand on her,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they opened the suitcases, they were shocked to

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<v Speaker 2>find human remains, some of which had been charred. Goreka

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<v Speaker 2>was arrested and she was charged charge for the murder

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<v Speaker 2>and dismemberment of Phoenix Nets. Greka had to undergo a

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<v Speaker 2>psychiatric evaluation. It was determined she had some type of

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<v Speaker 2>personality disorder. It was possibly brought on from her earlier traumas.

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<v Speaker 2>During her trial, the judge acknowledged Goreka's diagnosis and her

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<v Speaker 2>previous trauma, but the judge declared that neither of those

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<v Speaker 2>factors distorted Greka's reality enough to explain the murder or

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<v Speaker 2>diminish her culpability. Greka, who was found guilty, was sentenced

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<v Speaker 2>to a minimum of twenty three years in prison. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a horrific tragedy. What the fuck was Goreka thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, to make continued sexual advances towards a

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<v Speaker 2>woman who obviously didn't want anything like that with her,

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<v Speaker 2>then to murder that same woman who rejected her. And

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<v Speaker 2>the worst part to me, besides the murder, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>was that she represented herself as Phoenix to her family

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<v Speaker 2>and friends, so they would think that Phoenix was alive

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<v Speaker 2>and well, yes, there had to be some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>mental illness going on for anyone to be that devious

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<v Speaker 2>and malevolent rest in power Phoenix our True Crime Quiki.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is from San Antonio, Texas in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Again we have a couple of grinder murders for this case.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you, guys, I'm positive I could do a

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<v Speaker 2>whole season with both the main case and the true

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<v Speaker 2>crime QUICKI case being a grinder murder. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>they come up just so damn often. As I said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to San Antonio, Texas, home of the famous

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<v Speaker 2>San Antonio Riverwalk and the Alamo. Remember the Alamo? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't either, But if if history serves me correct,

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<v Speaker 2>it says Spanish Mission and Fortress, where a battle for

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<v Speaker 2>Texas was fought in the eighteen hundreds. And there is

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<v Speaker 2>also something to do with Davy Crockett being there. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>my vague history lesson isn't what we're here for. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the case. In March of twenty twenty two, a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five year old black man by the name of Giranti

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<v Speaker 2>Pleasant wasn't so pleasant. He was using the alias of

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<v Speaker 2>Derek to meet man on Grinder. That March of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two, Giranti met up with an unnamed man on Grinder.

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<v Speaker 2>Girante then shot the man, robbed the man, and fled

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<v Speaker 2>the scene. Luckily, the man would survive. In July of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, Gironti sexually assaulted a thirteen year old,

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<v Speaker 2>though I am not sure what gender this child is. Then,

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<v Speaker 2>in April of twenty twenty three, Gironti began talk teking

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty four year old Larry Wilson on Grinder under

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<v Speaker 2>his pseudonym Derek. He was also talking to twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>year old Joseph West on Grinder. April fourteenth, twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>Gironti and Larry Wilson would meet up in Larry's white

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<v Speaker 2>Ford expedition at the Banyan Tree Apartments. This is located

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<v Speaker 2>in northeast San Antonio. Larry had a few medical issues,

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<v Speaker 2>including epilepsy. He had had an aneurysm, and he had

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<v Speaker 2>also suffered several heart attacks. Before meeting up with Giranti,

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<v Speaker 2>Larry had texted his brother, who controlled his finances, and

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<v Speaker 2>asked him to cash app over one hundred and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That was supposedly so Larry could go grocery shopping. Giranti

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<v Speaker 2>is the one who suggested the meet up with Larry,

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<v Speaker 2>and Larry obliged. Giranti said that he'd be wearing a

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<v Speaker 2>red hoodie. Upon seeing Larry's SUV parked in the apartment complex,

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<v Speaker 2>Doirronty approached. He pulled out a handgun and he fired

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<v Speaker 2>several shots into the expedition and into Larry from the

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<v Speaker 2>passenger side of the vehicle. Then he robbed Larry and

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<v Speaker 2>fled the scene. Larry would die in his vehicle. Doirante

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<v Speaker 2>was even brazen enough to commit these crimes. With witnesses

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<v Speaker 2>about Larry's family began to suspect something was wrong when

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<v Speaker 2>that night Larry didn't respond to a family group text.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, this is so sweet to me. Larry's mom

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<v Speaker 2>would send a group text to her family saying good night,

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<v Speaker 2>and each member every night would respond back, so when

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<v Speaker 2>Larry didn't respond, they knew something was up. The following day,

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<v Speaker 2>the family was notified Larry was deceased and a homicide

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<v Speaker 2>investigation was taking place. Also the following day, Giranti would

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<v Speaker 2>convince the other man who was speaking to on grinder,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two year old Joseph West, to meet up with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph invited Girante to his home, where Girante would shoot

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph in the back of his head Joseph too died.

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<v Speaker 2>Doirante stole what he could find, and then he again

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<v Speaker 2>fled the scene. A few days later, when they hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>heard from him, a couple of Joseph's friends stopped by

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<v Speaker 2>his place. Nobody answered. They peeked into a window and

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<v Speaker 2>they saw a foot not moving on a bed. The

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<v Speaker 2>friends called the fire department, who came and broke down

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<v Speaker 2>the door for entry. Inside, they found a deceased Joseph.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the San Antonio police had two murders and two

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<v Speaker 2>nights on their hands. At Joseph's an open condom wrapper

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<v Speaker 2>was found under his bed containing fingerprints at the SUV

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<v Speaker 2>crime scene of Larry. Wilson's fingerprints were found on the

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<v Speaker 2>Ford expedition. Both sets of fingerprints indicated the same killer

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<v Speaker 2>for both Larry and Joseph. When the fingerprints were ran

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<v Speaker 2>through the database, they hit on Girante. Girante was arrested

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<v Speaker 2>by police in charge with two counts of murder on

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<v Speaker 2>April twenty four, twenty twenty three. Building the case against

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<v Speaker 2>Geronte started to fall into place. Evidence was strong, with

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<v Speaker 2>the fingerprints alone, plus with witnesses coming forward from the

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<v Speaker 2>murder of Larry, the case against Girante was growing. Dirante

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<v Speaker 2>was given a seven hundred thousand dollars bail bond, which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe he was able to come up with.

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<v Speaker 2>At his trial, he was found guilty of the murders

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<v Speaker 2>of Larry and Joseph. He was found guilty of robbery

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<v Speaker 2>and attempted murder on the publicly unknown man that Giranti

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<v Speaker 2>had shot but survived, plus the unknown to us thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old that he sexually assaulted. The judge in Girante's

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<v Speaker 2>case was not lenient at all. She sentenced Doirante to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years of incarceration for each murder, fifty years for

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<v Speaker 2>the attempted murder, and fifty years for the sexual assault

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<v Speaker 2>of the child. Total now in cash and prizes two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred years to be served concurrently in the prison system.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it look like the community, any community, will have

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<v Speaker 2>to endure Doerrante's heinous crimes anymore? Damn you guys. One

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<v Speaker 2>thing I love about Texas is they usually throw the

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<v Speaker 2>book hard at perpetrators of violent crimes. Dirante's damn lucky

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't get a death sentence. Rest in power. Larry

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<v Speaker 2>and Joseph thrive in power to Doirante's two other unknown victims.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see what is out there. This week in the

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<v Speaker 2>way of sunshine, the Treppor Project received a major donation

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<v Speaker 2>of a million dollars from stack overflow. This is to

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<v Speaker 2>support suicide prevention for LGBTQ and youth. Great job. Flame Con,

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<v Speaker 2>the world's largest LGBTQ plus comic convention, announced it will

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<v Speaker 2>move to a larger venue in Times Square for its

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six event dates. That sounds like an incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>fun event. This one actually happened in February last month

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago. A thirty year old transman named Leo Kundiff

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<v Speaker 2>jumped into the freezing Lake Michigan to save an eight

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<v Speaker 2>month old baby. The baby stroller had blown baby and

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<v Speaker 2>all into the water. Now, Leo is not a swimmer,

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<v Speaker 2>but instinctively he went in without regards for his own safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Both Leo and the baby are fine, thankfully. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>heard Chicago was the windy city, but damn, when strong

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<v Speaker 2>enough to blow a stroller into the lake is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Leo, You're a hero. That means a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of jokes before we part, What did the trans masculine

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<v Speaker 2>person say after top surgery. I'm glad that's off my chest.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you know your house was burglarized by gays

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<v Speaker 2>when it's broken into and the furniture has been rearranged?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you call a line of gay people an LGBTQ. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that one took me a minute too. Okay, last one, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna make a gay joke here, but fuck that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that was a really naughty one. I love

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<v Speaker 2>you guys. You matter so much. Remember it is not

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<v Speaker 2>a crime to be gay or to live your truth.

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<v Speaker 2>A sure murderer