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orthodox Christian worldview.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way I steered the argument.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just want to say, like, unfavorable also

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Speaker 2: One has to compare world views.

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Speaker 1: So I think these people who sort of call on

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and they go like, oh, prove to me that you're

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better than all other world views in one argument, they're

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kind of being silly. So unfavorable to that. Okay, But

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my question is sort of a bit more fundamental. I

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guess what is one? Why is one supposed to be

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committed to explaining these facts? So take for example knowledge,

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So let's take the true classical analysis of knowledge.

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Speaker 2: True justified believer.

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Speaker 1: Right, So what say it's the case that we do

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a worldview comparison.

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Speaker 2: And you sort of managed.

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Speaker 1: To give me reasons to believe that I can't have

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justification in all above terms. Why wouldn't my move at

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that point be to just lower the threshold or what

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I consider to be a justification, Like why isn't the

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move then to just be to lower the conditions for

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the supposed fact rather than to accept a world view

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which in alignment with the strong.

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Speaker 3: Facts, well, I think it would just really weaken the

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argument as a whole. And so, in other words, in

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a debate setting, if you lower the threshold of what

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council's justification for your position or your worldview, then I

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can do the same thing, and then we're at just

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an impasse. We're basically just surrendering what it means to debate.

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Speaker 5: No, so I don't thinker Perps, I wasn't speaking fully

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accurately that what I'm trying to ask is that we

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have this fact.

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Speaker 1: It can be sort of appearances of knowledge or morality,

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or the self or identity or causality or.

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Speaker 1: Now, in philosophical views, you can have strong and weak

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versions of these views. Right, it seems that the transcendental

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arguments category treats or having to explain the strong existence

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of these viewes. But what is the reason to believe

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that we are in the business and needing to explain

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the strong existence of these things rather than the weak existence.

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Speaker 2: Of these things.

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context of a debate. So in a debate, the argumentation

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and the laws of logic are not typically seen as

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which you could adjudicate the true in the false. So

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if we just start weakening the positions to where none

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of that is required again, and I would just repeat

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my same point, like, well, then don't I do the

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same thing, father deacon? What do you think of this? Yeah?

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think we're all fine having the weak version rather than

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Speaker 2: You know, our justifications and reasons.

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first order, none of us, I personally don't think, because

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then nothing would count as knowledge. But it's a separate

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question about overcoming global skepticism and providing the justification for

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knowledge and morality itself. That's a different category.

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Speaker 2: So you could be open to.

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and how I'm finding a first order like having a

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weak version, right, but arguing for a second.

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Speaker 3: Order, And that's a great point.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, in general is a different sort of thing it requires,

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Speaker 6: People always miss that, is that they get caught up

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Speaker 6: Orthodoxy is true, if that's what actually grounds knowledge or not?

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standard or justification. Be bop, what's up?

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Speaker 2: I mute, Hey, what's up now?

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Speaker 3: What's on your mind? You can hear them?

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Speaker 10: So I've been questioning lately the validity of Genesis and

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how it relates kind of to like, uh, secular science

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has been like painting out as like you know, the

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layers of Earth, thousands of years.

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Speaker 11: And I was just wondering if you took genesis literally

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date all that, Like, uh, I think so called secular

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science is even more ridiculous than whatever you think is

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Speaker 10: I think morally, secular scientism is kind of retarded. It

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all those things. None of those things are actually the

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priview of science or the regularity of nature over time.

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none of those things can be proven by science.

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something that might be obscure or not clear, you go

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Speaker 2: Go, well, let's go to science.

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Speaker 6: It's like, well, that's the most obscure, epistemically shaky kind

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Speaker 3: What the majority consensus of what you cut out. Dude,

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Speaker 2: Bring it back. Logos epistemically shaky too.

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Speaker 6: Whatever the current theory is is going to change, So

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask about.

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that only the Monophasites, I think, attributed it to Saint

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it is an ancient liturgy. But I like, what you

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Speaker 16: Of different liturgical traditions and they just slapped Saint Mark's

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Speaker 3: Like by the way, it looks as if the Orthodox

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patriarch has done the Liturgy of Saint Mark, which I don't.

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looks like they have done the Orthodox Church has done

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the Liturgy of Saint Mark. Maybe you won't argue that's

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that they shouldn't. I don't know. I didn't even think.

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controversial issue. But whatever matter of the churgical scholar John

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John Smith? What's up, John Smith? You want to um

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you Michigan became a member for two months. Keep up

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the great word, Jay. I'm proud of your success. Been

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supporting you in any way I can since twenty twenty. Yes,

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thank you, Michigan. I recall all of your beloved faithful

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super chests over the years. I don't understand why you

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got hello, Hello, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Hello?

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Speaker 11: So I've got two questions, Okay. My first is, so

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if I read in a YouTube comment or if I

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Speaker 2: He's he's a leader of.

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Speaker 3: The apostles, right and Paul or Peter.

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Speaker 11: Saint Paul is a I mean even in our liturgy, right,

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Speaker 3: Uh huh?

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Speaker 11: And I mean like acts is kind of divided up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well Peter Peter's apostle to the Jews and Paul

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to the Gentiles. Yeah.

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or Acts two where they choose Matthias one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Uh, it seems like the Apostolics secession doesn't really take

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because we don't hear from Matthias at all. I mean,

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what happens.

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Speaker 3: To him, But that's an argument from silence.

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Speaker 17: How does that prove that appstoc succession doesn't follow because

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we don't quote hear from him?

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Speaker 18: Again, Well, it's because Saint Paul doesn't really have the

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Apostolic succession. It's like he was directly called by God,

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Speaker 3: So what do you mean? Wait, say what? Jesus is

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the one that appoints them right to be an apostle.

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The word means to be one that is sent. So

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Paul's becoming an apostle is one who is sent directly

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from Jesus.

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Speaker 11: So he is an apostle, but he wasn't one of

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the twelve and he wasn't so appointed.

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Speaker 2: Well, Jesus was alive.

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Speaker 3: Jesus is alive. So yeah, he was appointed.

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Speaker 2: And furthermore too, uh uh.

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Speaker 6: Blessed Saint Theophlock has a really good commentary on.

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Speaker 2: This is that you also see.

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Speaker 6: In at him being received considerably in terms of modality

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an apostle?

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Speaker 2: You know, the murder of Christians and stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: So his testimony of receiving and being apostolos from Christ

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himself is received by the apostles, and you see this

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play out in the Council of Jerusalem in Acts as well.

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Speaker 2: So that's apostols like he's an apostle.

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Speaker 6: The apostles themselves confirm the veracity of his testimony being

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called by Christ himself, and so that's all you need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that people are coming up with these

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arbitrary things like no, no, to be an apostle means

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that you have to have been in the presence of

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Christ when he was alive. Dummies, Jesus is alive. Paul

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is not having a vision of a dead Jesus. It's

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the resurrected Jesus. What are you. What are you talking about?

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This man? This stuff. I'm not trying to be mean,

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but this is just silly.

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Speaker 6: Actually, who is also he was one of the twelve,

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but he was of the seventy actually or.

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Speaker 2: Danes of the apostle Paul and receives him.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, look up Antonius in the book backs.

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Speaker 3: What's up man, Jason? All right, he can't connect Tallahassee.

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You wanna try again? Yeah, Paul didn't change anything. I

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don't know. It's just nonsense Islamic bullshit.

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Speaker 19: What's up man, Timothy?

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Speaker 3: Hello, yep, hey, uh.

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Speaker 2: I've called a couple of times.

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Speaker 15: I want to point out some father Deacon said earlier.

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Speaker 20: Is it that all the Catholic professors he's around give

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different arguments?

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Speaker 2: And I'm kind of confused.

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Speaker 16: I thought they all did the cash me outside policy

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when they started doing debates.

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Speaker 2: At last debate I saw with the.

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Speaker 16: Catholic professor, he told you to cash him outside.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to give you a bunch of money.

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Speaker 3: He's talking about at his Uh yeah, he's at a

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Catholic college, So that's true. Jetters, what's up? Jeters? Jeters? Creepers.

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These gender cheos have calmed me down from the bad arguments.

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Jeter's unmute, limp bricks, lem Me pricks. What's that name?

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Lem me pricks? U mute? Yeah, maybe something wrong with uh?

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Maybe Twitter is not doing well today. That dog, I'm mute.

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That dog, I'm mute. DGC rarities, that dog un mute.

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It's weird. Auntie, straight white male fied dollars. Jay get

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an anxiety pin like a real man. I don't have

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anxiety problems. I don't know what you're talking about. I

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just can go from zero to seventy five in anger

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points if my blood sugar is low. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: His internet broke today. I don't know what's going on.

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Nobody can connect, nobody knows how to do a mic. Jeters,

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you want to try again? I'm your Hey, Oh you're

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right man.

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Speaker 2: I just have a couple of questions.

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Speaker 21: I'm pretty new to ORPHODOXI and I was wondering, So

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I have an atheist family. I was wondering how I

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would go about trying to get them on the right side.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you're going to ever convince

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your family members with argumentation unless they ask you, So

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I would just try to be super loving and nice

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and then and then eventually they'll ask you questions and

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then answer them. But do not try to argue with

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your family slinger. What's up? Never works?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 22: Can you hear me? M?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just had a question. What is your guys views?

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Speaker 23: Because I know the Greeks and Russians have different views,

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and I know it's kind of uh, just depends.

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Speaker 2: On the church.

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Speaker 23: What is your guys' view on like rebaptizing someone.

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Speaker 17: Uh, it's up to the bishop and the canons of

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the Church that are interpreted by the bishop.

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Speaker 23: Okay, because I know rebaptist.

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Speaker 3: It's not a rebaptism, Yeah, okay, Yeah, there's just a

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baptism where there's not.

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Speaker 23: Okay, because I know in the canons there was when

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I was reading.

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Speaker 2: I remember, I don't know if it.

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Speaker 23: Was the second or the third Council, there was like

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against people getting baptized again.

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Speaker 3: But I guess you guys, it's a case by case basis.

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The count the Canons of the sixth Council give other

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cases where people do have to be baptized because the

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other baptism was not a baptism was not recognized. Okay,

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I'll go read for example, the sixth Council says that

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if it was a Unomian baptism, it doesn't it doesn't count. Okay,

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all right, I'll so it's a case by case basis, John,

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what's up. I'm just, man, I'm not trying to be mean.

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I'm just so sick of that question, Dude. It's like

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that in ps A.

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Speaker 24: Man.

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Speaker 3: If I have to answer and explain PSA in that

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question one more time, I just I'm I'm gonna flip

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the table, like Sam Hot, I'm just kidding. What's up?

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Speaker 2: Man Ullo?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, So I had a question about uh men, and like,

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is there any other like documentaries about governments muddying the

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water that you would recommend?

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of documentaries that cover intelligence

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operations and stuff like that. Like there's the one about

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William Colby that's good that FDA recommended to me. I

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forget the name of it, but it's William Coldy's son.

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I think made a documentary about his dad. There are

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documentaries about history of espionage CIA operations. There's millions of those.

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But the only other thing about aliens being a syop

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that I would recommend that's really good is the Collins

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Brothers book Invoking the Beyond. But I'm not aware of

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any other specific documentaries about alien syops. But great question exempted,

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no face kill two dollars. Isn't it funny that Jews, Liberals,

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Muslims all hate Paul? There is a commonality there that

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they have this weird just like a Paul what's up?

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Straight white male says an anxiety Pin is a Dean

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Withers reference. I don't know who Dean Withers is. Is

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that a stand up Dean Withers? Oh? Is that this

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insane liberal dude? Let's see this? Cody and Joe?

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Speaker 14: Are you there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh? He is this kid?

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Speaker 2: This like liberal kid on TikTok the operative of the

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Democratic Party.

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Speaker 26: Do I vape?

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Speaker 19: No, it's a fucking anxiety pen. It's an anxiety pin.

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Speaker 3: Joe? When will people get it right? Cody?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, listen to me, man, I've I've had it up

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to here with people coming on this stream.

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Speaker 3: Is this trolling? He looks like he's about to laugh.

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I can't tell this is fake or real.

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Speaker 8: And telling me that I vaked, Cody, I.

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Speaker 22: Need you to hear me when.

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Speaker 26: I say this, I don't vape.

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Speaker 8: And the fact that you would perceive me as a

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person that would vape, that would smoke the nicotine. It honestly,

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it makes me disheartened in the way that I'm presenting

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myself to my community.

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Speaker 3: This seems like he's trying to be funny. I can't

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tell this or not.

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Speaker 8: Because I guess what, It's not a fucking vape. It's

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an anxiety.

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Speaker 3: Pin.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry that I have anxiety, Okay, And honestly, yeah,

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it's kind of the thought of people like you that

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want to come up.

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Speaker 26: And bully and burrabe me over something that I don't know. Okay,

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so cut this shit. It's not a vape, all right,

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It's an anxiety Pin. And God, God, the amount of

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times that I've.

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Speaker 8: Asked you to respect me and respect my anxiety, PIN

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is at this point getting ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I can't tell if this is this serious or not.

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I literally do not know they're paying They're saying it's

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gay rage. I could see it could be in either one.

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I've literally never seen this good. I think Andrew debated him,

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but I've never seen him. I don't know anything about why.

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Speaker 17: By the way, why is anybody listening to fifteen year

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olds like this? Dude looks like he's fifteen.

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Speaker 3: No fifteen year old has any information or knowledge about

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the world that you should ever listen to at all.

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No fifteen year old can tell you or teach you anything.

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This dude literally looks like he's mat me thirteen. What

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kind of freaking thirteen year old tell you about the world?

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Nothing that he probably has a million subscribers too. I

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think this is what's going on. The whole world is

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becoming infantilized. And everybody quit reading books and they listened

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to thirteen year olds on TikTok and now everybody's done.

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That's what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I did a whole stream on that.

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Speaker 6: There was, you know, an actual push a personal and

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infantilization of society. Yes, playing with toys and I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yes, funko pops this kid whatever. This is this democratic science? Yeah,

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this is like the democrat. I think you're right. This

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is like, let's take a young thirteen year old white

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boy and how can we speak to young white males

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to make them into faking gay democrats?

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Speaker 8: Cody Ya, So please justified for the final and uh,

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for the billionth time, will you please just respect the

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fact that it's none of it in medicine anxiety open.

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Speaker 2: Get it right, thirteen year old, fifteen year old?

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Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, exactly, and.

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Speaker 6: It's the whole I mean, you see this as a

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total sy op.

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Speaker 2: To in Hollywood what the kids know best.

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Speaker 18: Right.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great point. Yes, in movies, the kids

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always know what's up, and the parents are like them.

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Speaker 2: The parents are dumb.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna have Lord of the Flies with the children.

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Speaker 2: Exactly because they they're the ones that know. You see.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of one of the best all time Jamie Kennedy

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skits is Child Island, and uh, this is exactly what

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we are. This one is so great if you've never

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seen this one, this is one of my favorite all

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time skits where Jamie predence to be a Hollywood producer

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that's going to produce the reality show kind of like Survivor,

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but it's with kids and it's called Child Island, and uh,

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each tries to sell it to these parents as this

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like greasy Hollywood producer. The funniest part of the whole

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thing is the promo of the kids on the island

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that he's showing to the parents in real time. I'm

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not going to play the whole clip, because you guys

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should watch it. But it's literally it's one of his best.

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This one is this.

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Speaker 2: Probably starts in the eighties too. You know even these

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are a great show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly withies exactly, Yes.

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Speaker 6: Like the kids the parents are dumb, Yes, and kids

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is the detector.

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Speaker 2: Maybe even starts.

473
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 27: Children are on a remote island with just on their backs.

474
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They must forage for food, for shelter, for their very lives.

475
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Speaker 3: The best part of this whole skit, which, by the way,

476
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,880
the parents being willing to some of them are actually

477
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,359
willing to put their kids on this isl one. It's

478
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,200
kind of weird. But this is the funniest part right here,

479
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,519
and it's there's the Lord of the Flies joke throughout

480
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:08,000
this video.

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Speaker 27: Welcome to the final chapter in reality television.

482
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Speaker 2: Welcome to.

483
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Speaker 4: Child.

484
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Speaker 3: The funniest part is the hog. When they fast motion

485
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,279
the hog. That just gets me for some re.

486
00:30:50,440 --> 00:31:10,039
Speaker 28: Yeah, and they have presently.

487
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 4: What do I do?

488
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,599
Speaker 26: Let school on the park?

489
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 27: Forget who they were, who they are?

490
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,759
Speaker 3: I miss I missed the hogs. The hog part, that's

491
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:46,279
the best part. Go watch this whole skin. I can't

492
00:31:46,319 --> 00:31:46,880
play the whole thing.

493
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Speaker 2: But by the way, this is literally my apartment complex.

494
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,839
We have a whole Lord of the Flies children's civilization

495
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:53,519
chairs where.

496
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Speaker 6: They all around wild like really yeah, they don't seem

497
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,359
to have any parents. They don't go to school, and

498
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:03,920
they're all just out like building forts and fires and

499
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,400
running around spears. I mean, good thing they're not on

500
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,839
you know, the technology, but they're literally I make jokes about.

501
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: Four of the Flies. Yeah, here's the hog snort. He

502
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,440
that fast motion hog man. That just gets me for

503
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,599
some reason. All right, what's up, dude. Welcome everybody from

504
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:37,480
the Crucible. We are watching Jamie Kennedy experiment clips some

505
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:38,400
of the best.

506
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:40,359
Speaker 17: Because I don't know how we got on child Island.

507
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:43,319
But somebody has a good joke here. They said, nowadays

508
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,279
child Island has a different meaning. I think he's telling

509
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:50,079
Aboutjeff Stin, mceffrey, no face killer, straight white, mall five dollars.

510
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,039
Speaker 3: The left calls this what's this kid's name, Dean Withers.

511
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:58,480
They call him there Joe Rogan, whoa dude, I can't

512
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,920
it's hard to believe some of the stuff is real.

513
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,640
Let's see who's next.

514
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,599
Speaker 2: That's how we got on it.

515
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:12,079
Speaker 6: Because we're talking about the.

516
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:16,519
Speaker 3: Sigh, Yeah, exactly, everybody being like a kid and looking

517
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,960
to this like thirteen year old child for wisdom and God.

518
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 6: By the way I talked about that, they didn't rage

519
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:27,240
too because I remember the first when I was when

520
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:27,920
I was a child.

521
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: I remember when you know, eighteen or whatever, went.

522
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:33,799
Speaker 6: To the first rave and I was like, this is crazy,

523
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:38,119
Like everybody's running around with pacifiers and like the girls

524
00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:41,200
are holding dolls and they've got all.

525
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: The interesting Yeah, why would everybody be acting like a

526
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:45,039
kid at a rave? That is weird?

527
00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:48,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, like it was, I mean, the girl what do

528
00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:51,359
they call them candy girls or something like that, candy kids.

529
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at they're.

530
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:58,599
Speaker 6: All wearing like kids, beads and pacifiers.

531
00:33:57,839 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: In their mouth.

532
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,559
Speaker 6: And I knew even back Dan, and you know, I wasn't,

533
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,039
you know, completely aware of a lot of stuff.

534
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,199
Speaker 2: But I'm like, this has got to be a CI.

535
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: So the culture of Eversis does not say that you

536
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,840
could I talk about promp booties. What's up?

537
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,199
Speaker 19: Zeesh?

538
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:21,679
Speaker 3: I'm you Ridge pounder five dollars? That sounds weird. Ridge

539
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,880
pounder five dollars. Thoughts on Borrow's Walden did don't even

540
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,440
make it through that book I was boring as hell.

541
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,119
I had that in a grad grad lit class and

542
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,119
I was like, I am not going to finish this book.

543
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,079
I don't like any of these trans and dentalists. They don't.

544
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:37,960
This is not my vibe.

545
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: Dude.

546
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: Men have become tools of their tools. Yeah, you know what,

547
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,400
maybe I should revisit it. Maybe I would like it now.

548
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,119
Rachel Wilson What's up? Became a member.

549
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Speaker 17: She gives gifts ten memberships. Props to Rachel for that

550
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,320
much appreciated shout out to the Crucible and all the

551
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,079
people over there.

552
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,079
Speaker 3: Welcome everybody. Everybody to the limit, everybody to the limit.

553
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:02,320
Ze on, mute man, it's open debates.

554
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,119
Speaker 29: Everybody in the place to be what you're gonna do?

555
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,519
Speaker 17: Heyj oh we got a we got a legit British

556
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:11,400
raver in the house.

557
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,559
Speaker 3: What's up dog?

558
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:13,519
Speaker 30: Yeah?

559
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:15,559
Speaker 2: Hey man? Yeah, No, I just wanted to say it

560
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:19,000
was good. I chimed in today to check the.

561
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 29: Courtney Courtney thing that you did on the whole transhumanism

562
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,559
and everything.

563
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,559
Speaker 3: Was really the Dark Enlightenment bros. Yeah all that.

564
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:33,159
Speaker 29: So yeah, I just wanted to say, I build anti

565
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,719
nano technology, so based on all this kind of Internet

566
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,280
of everything, Internet of things, all that kind of stuff,

567
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,920
and yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, it

568
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was good, what it.

569
00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:48,559
Speaker 2: Was good, what she was covering. And I kind of

570
00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:49,920
focus on like the low.

571
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,559
Speaker 29: Tech versus the big tech, or kind of like David

572
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:53,679
and Goliath.

573
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Speaker 2: And listening to what you guys were saying.

574
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Speaker 29: It's like, there's so much emphasis put on this AI

575
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,360
being so what it isn't And I kind of always

576
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:09,320
say it's based on compartmentalized stupidity, like compartmentalized science. And

577
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,639
I've gone right back to the nineteen hundreds to when

578
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,079
you know, when the medicine was medicine, the food was food.

579
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,199
Speaker 2: The technology was technology.

580
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,039
Speaker 29: It's really interesting because when you look at the literature

581
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:23,679
there's an electrotherapy museum in Florida, you can see that

582
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,440
they were based on truth. I think obviously there was

583
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,119
none of this new age garbage and all that kind

584
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:32,920
of stuff. So they incorporate the ether back then, which

585
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,000
I think is a missing thing.

586
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,159
Speaker 2: So the analog, which me and you have been around, you.

587
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 29: Know, the hip hop, all that kind of stuff, the

588
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,599
original music. The analog technology, I think is one of

589
00:36:41,679 --> 00:36:46,599
the things that disrupts this digital reality that people think,

590
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,679
you know, is what it is. But I think we've

591
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,800
I think we've won this battle anyway. I think it's

592
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,199
that during Corona, I realized that so many people were

593
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,840
focused on government, not God, and I kind of leaned

594
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,679
more towards God at that point theologian.

595
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:02,039
Speaker 2: But anyway, I.

596
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Speaker 29: Just want to share that there's so much that we

597
00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:06,719
can do, like with all the geo engineering, thet you know,

598
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,840
the interoperability, all that kind of stuff that you hear

599
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,800
about in the crypto to remain human. I think that's

600
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,519
what we're doing. How do I remain human? I sort

601
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:16,880
of to chime in. I thought it was a really

602
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,400
good podcast. I don't know her work, so it was

603
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,320
quite good to listen to, and I just wanted to

604
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,440
share that there's and also you mentioned you mentioned the

605
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,360
Bucky bulls. That was funny when you mentioned the buggy

606
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,400
bulls and you so just about because you said your stack,

607
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,039
you know, your chuck and all that stuff, which I

608
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:36,199
think I've got to try it.

609
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of tricksters as well, with you.

610
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:41,559
Speaker 29: Know, people taking all this C sixty from.

611
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: These goofy gurus.

612
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,679
Speaker 29: So it's really important, I think now more than ever

613
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,079
you talk about it quite a lot.

614
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: You know, and I function brain.

615
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 29: Cells to discern even in amongst all of our world,

616
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,320
there's a lot of tricksters trying to turn people into nanobots.

617
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: Give give me your twenty three bit cool, you know.

618
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,559
Speaker 29: But yeah, so so I see a lot of people

619
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:06,679
from the C sixty the sea lights and the stupidity

620
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,840
is just crazy, and you see it with a lot

621
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,599
of the fake technology.

622
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:11,039
Speaker 2: And all that kind of stuff.

623
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 29: But anyway, I want to chime in and say here

624
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,559
and you know, keeping.

625
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to our UK bros. Appreciate that.

626
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:19,559
Speaker 2: Ze.

627
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,639
Speaker 3: We've got a lot of based and ritpilled out there.

628
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Chase Haguard, excuse me, excuse me, trusse A Haguard.

629
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 31: That's not my name, Please pronounce my name.

630
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: I assumed it was some sort of pompous French thing.

631
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,760
I don't know, trust a guard.

632
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:43,519
Speaker 31: Yeah, no, it's not my name, and I don't appreciate it.

633
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,400
And I tried to come in here in good faith.

634
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:48,559
Speaker 3: But you can. You could clip me, and you can

635
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:49,679
clip me and expose me.

636
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, exactly.

637
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 31: Now, I just wanted to kind of piggyback on what

638
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,360
what the proire.

639
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: Call say podcast that you forgot.

640
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 31: Who's the guy you were talking about AI EPT and

641
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,320
all that.

642
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,519
Speaker 3: I've been cutting out the previous guy.

643
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: No, it's chases merging with AI. That's what it's got.

644
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 31: No, No, I should be I should be good now?

645
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 2: Am I good?

646
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:20,039
Speaker 3: Yeah?

647
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry about that now.

648
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,599
Speaker 31: I was saying the prior caller was bringing up that

649
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,199
podcast interview you did with the guy I forgot, the

650
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,960
podcast owner. But you were talking about chat EPT and

651
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:34,679
Grock and AI and stuff, and the caller was talking

652
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:36,920
about trying people trying to stay human.

653
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,679
Speaker 2: And I think that's a It's an interesting thing.

654
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 31: That's gonna happen where I think people are gonna gravitate

655
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,960
more towards real human things that you've already seen. It

656
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:48,079
actually happen in music where some of the top pop

657
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:51,280
music right now as out of Time drums played over

658
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,239
drum machines. And I think there's an opportunity for people

659
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,360
to do what you're doing, people to make real art

660
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,760
because I think people are gonna crave after it, and

661
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,599
there could be an element of propert evidence in this.

662
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, people are gonna want real, real authenticity. They're gonna

663
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,039
want real human stuff. The the the Ai like fad,

664
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:12,239
I think for entertainment will kind of get old in

665
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:12,880
my view.

666
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,039
Speaker 31: Yeah, absolutely, and it's it's already happened. If you look

667
00:40:18,079 --> 00:40:22,760
at when like pro tools and all, you know, digital

668
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,639
music and computers got powerful enough for studios to switch

669
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:30,880
from running everything on tape. Everything got what's called quantized,

670
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,639
where everything was smacked to the grid and then and

671
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,159
that happened throughout all the pop music and now some

672
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,360
of the top charting stuff like this, you know these

673
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,559
Sabrina Carpenter tunes. The guy who produces it, he's a

674
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:46,760
really good producer. He's putting things out of out of

675
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,639
time and out of tune on purpose, and the average

676
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,000
listener is not noticing it, and they're feeling that it's human,

677
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,880
even with this big pop stuff. So I think things

678
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,920
will switch another way, where again some people will just

679
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:03,639
gobble up a slop, but other people, you know, making

680
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:07,639
things that have character and are human and ute vibe

681
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:11,119
to them, those are gonna thrive in my opinion, and

682
00:41:11,159 --> 00:41:11,960
it's already happening.

683
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: We've seen it over the last five years and especially

684
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,039
this last year.

685
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 31: You look at the biggest artists, whether you like it

686
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,159
or not, Sabrian and partner. There's all types of organic

687
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,800
you know production there that pushes things out of time

688
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,920
and all this, and I think it's interesting.

689
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,559
Speaker 2: There's an interesting conversation being.

690
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Speaker 6: Out you were you on the discord with my brother

691
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,320
with the sound engineers because he told me this topic

692
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,159
kit They did this a VC with the rest of

693
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,320
the producing sounds on this exact topic.

694
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Speaker 2: I was just wondering because.

695
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 31: I know I'm on that I'm on that server with

696
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,199
your brother and I hang out there a lot, but

697
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,920
I was not there for this conversation.

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00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,559
Speaker 2: It's interesting.

699
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 31: That's funny because that server as some of the biggest

700
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,679
engineers in the world on it, and I haven't talked

701
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,679
to them about this at all.

702
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,159
Speaker 3: Well, I do have to point out that Chase is

703
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:01,239
intentionally subverting what I'm going to be doing in the future,

704
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,119
and he knows it. It's a very subtle way for

705
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,119
him to try to to try to destroy my DJ

706
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,719
career before I get started. He knows good and well

707
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,400
that I'm going to transition into being DJ dong Butter,

708
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,599
the hottest nineties raver DJ out there. He thinks he

709
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:18,039
can come in and get ahead of me and despoil

710
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:21,280
the entire EDM genre, which I will be taking over

711
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,239
very soon, and it's not gonna work. Chase, it's not

712
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:24,880
gonna work.

713
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,159
Speaker 27: I thought.

714
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 31: I just want to point out that Jay said that

715
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:30,440
the EDM genre I'm going to despoil it.

716
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: So you guys now know that Jay worships DM. EDM

717
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,880
is his god. He does believe in natural theology and

718
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,400
all the music actually leads to M. But I thought

719
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,440
you were going to be DJ filth pool Man.

720
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that was my old name before before

721
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:51,360
my last ayahuasca trip, and the entities told me that

722
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,840
that was not the right name. So Chase, it's not

723
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,599
gonna work. Try again. But thank you for your comments.

724
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:01,960
We appreciate you. JR. What's up, dude? You can't stop

725
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,880
the DJ train as it's coming to the station. Dute, dude,

726
00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:08,239
we're en route to tran Central.

727
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

728
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,599
Speaker 3: I had to billy ten dollars I just joined your stream.

729
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:14,599
Did you cover the fact that the Greek Orthodox Arsidiocese

730
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:17,960
priest was going after Orthobros? This is so like, this

731
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:21,800
is so twenty sixteen seventeen, right, the Orthobro movement, this

732
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,719
is yeah, We're a giant political force. We're going to

733
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,360
take over Maga as the Orthobro movement. So, yes, it's

734
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,320
a very dangerous movement, the ortho Bros, which literally started

735
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,920
from FDA in a picture that he took making a joke. Yes,

736
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,360
it's a very dangerous political movement, so be very afraid.

737
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,079
Speaker 2: Never actual like leftists and subversis.

738
00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: And yeah, where's his videos going after all the leftism,

739
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:57,320
all the ecumenism. No, no, no, the danger is the Orthobros. Yeah,

740
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,800
what's up? Man? Jq ja kwan? What's up? I like

741
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,199
that ad? Hello? Is that the internet is broken today?

742
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:18,679
What is going on? Are there? Try again? Are you there? Yeah?

743
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: Can you hear me?

744
00:44:19,519 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: Barely? Go ahead?

745
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,679
Speaker 2: I like that ad that Chase just inserted.

746
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 17: Oh here we go another one of these people from

747
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,840
the real music world that plays real instruments and real

748
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,840
gypsy jazz.

749
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 3: Dude, Gypsies don't even exist. Okay. Gypsies are crisis actors

750
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,599
that were hired to play. They wear brown face. They're

751
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,440
not even a real thing. And now we got guys

752
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:43,920
who are.

753
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,599
Speaker 17: Professional gypsy jazz players that play real instruments. They're coming

754
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:48,920
to destroy my DJ career.

755
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,199
Speaker 3: That's why they're here. I want you guys to know

756
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:57,239
this gypsy jazz. What does that share? Is that share?

757
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,119
Speaker 24: Chase, Chase, Chase thinks that is Sabrina Carpenter Native ad

758
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:08,079
that he got paid for by whatever record company he's working.

759
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: Doctor Luke, Doctor Luke.

760
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,559
Speaker 24: Yeah, no, I wanted to comment on stuff we've talked

761
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:20,800
about for years that father, uh Deacon and nice was

762
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,079
bringing up. There is all the John Hughes films are

763
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:30,800
designed to undermine parenting, every single one of them, from

764
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,199
his beginning An Animal House to his last film, Look

765
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,239
Who's talking.

766
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,119
Speaker 2: Home Alone?

767
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 24: Every single every single one of them.

768
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: The parents are dumb.

769
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 24: Every adult is stupid in the film, uh Breakfast Club.

770
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:47,639
Speaker 2: Of course.

771
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,159
Speaker 24: Uh, you know it's it's a dumb principle that gets

772
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,159
the you know, wolf pulled over his eyes for the

773
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,599
entire day.

774
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,639
Speaker 3: Baby dude, remember that move.

775
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: Baby geniuses? Look who's talking?

776
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 24: All all the all those films are all Johnny, I

777
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,360
mean John Hughes wrote, even the films that he didn't direct.

778
00:46:09,639 --> 00:46:12,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point. Now, this is a great point. This

779
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,320
is subversive totally, it.

780
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: Really it really was.

781
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,079
Speaker 24: And most of the films like the time period that

782
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:22,000
we grew up in, which is good, you know, stuff

783
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,920
like goonies, even even in goonies or films like that,

784
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:30,920
the parents aren't even around. So it's like it's not

785
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,199
even that parents. Even in some of it, it's like

786
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,360
it's not even that the parents are dumb.

787
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: It's just there is no parents at all.

788
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:42,039
Speaker 32: And we all know about children of the corn. The

789
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:47,639
children are now Malachi's now the religious leader, and I mean,

790
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,599
come on, village dude.

791
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 3: The kids are actually alien entities. Thank you. By the way, John,

792
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,559
appreciate that the children are the alien entities come to

793
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:59,960
take over their little their little psychopaths. By the way,

794
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:03,400
Tipsy's tramps and thieves. That's the only thing I know

795
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:11,400
about gypsy jazz is that share a song. Kyle five dollars.

796
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:15,880
I want to see you Orthodox creators tackle little season theory.

797
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,760
That's all over YouTube. Yeah, Orthodox people don't get into

798
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:23,159
evangelical end times nonsense, so it's probably not gonna happen.

799
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,800
We're partial preterists. Many of us Kelly's silver five dollars.

800
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:38,440
Have you seen Zathura Zathura? They completely s X utilized

801
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,360
Kristen Stewart, uh No, I don't even know about that.

802
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:49,159
Never heard of that. Zura in a interesting well, she's

803
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:55,400
isn't she like genderly ambiguous nowadays? So that doesn't surprise me.

804
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,880
If a lot of these Hollywood people get groomed into

805
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,440
all kinds of weird stuff, and that's probably what has

806
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,960
messed them up. EA became a member. When is your

807
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,159
next open question? I mean it's right now. I want

808
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:11,719
to call in, but it's not on the topic. But

809
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,519
the topic is all topics, so how could it not

810
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:17,320
be on topic? Just just call in, dude? What are

811
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:23,840
you talking about? We're going back up. These guys just

812
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,840
want to destroy my DJ career. They know I want

813
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,440
to be the next hottest nineties rave DJ, and they're

814
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,880
already their front running me to destroy my career.

815
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 19: Cost you.

816
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:51,199
Speaker 3: What's up? Good day, sir? What's on your mind? What's up?

817
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,159
Speaker 2: First off, back to the Harlan show. I wanted to

818
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:54,679
talk about that.

819
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,039
Speaker 3: I knew you were going to talk about. That's why

820
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:56,719
I brought it back up.

821
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Oh yeah, I want to say, like you

822
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,320
you brought up Mark Marin.

823
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: I have no idea who this Harlan guy is.

824
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 33: But he seems very much like that boomer mentality that

825
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,639
you were talking about, and.

826
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: He had annoyed He like saw some of Sam Hide.

827
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,239
Clips thought he knew how to handle him, and that's interesting.

828
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,199
Speaker 33: This is why Sam Hide went guerrilla mode because.

829
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,119
Speaker 2: This Harlan dude, he just thought Sam Hide was like

830
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:25,559
a nonsense content creator.

831
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: Interesting.

832
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,199
Speaker 33: He didn't realize the layers that Sam Hide puts in,

833
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,920
and that all the value in Sami's content is those

834
00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:36,840
kind of satirical layers. Yeah, he thought he thought, let's

835
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,559
talk about oh, just saying funny thing about Brazilians, that's

836
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:40,599
what Sam Hide does.

837
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:43,519
Speaker 24: But he he just kissed Sam Hide by misunderstanding.

838
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you heard the wine mom that

839
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:51,320
called in earlier to explain that I'm licking Sam Hides

840
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,000
but to get popular or whatever. She also had a

841
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,119
similar take like.

842
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:00,159
Speaker 17: Sam isn't funny and he just has to spurg out

843
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:01,639
because he doesn't know what to do and he doesn't

844
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:03,920
know what's fun I mean, it's like, what are you

845
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,840
talking about? This is not even close to reality.

846
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,679
Speaker 3: But I didn't even think about, like, what did Harlan

847
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,880
Williams know about Sam Hi. He probably thought it was

848
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,599
just some like random you know, TikTok guy or something

849
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,639
like who knows what's going on? And I think he's

850
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:20,280
more gen X, but maybe he's a gen X with

851
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,199
a boom er mindset. I don't know, but I would

852
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:24,840
have thought this would work well because Harlan Williams has

853
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,239
always been this sort of like whoa, he's so quirky

854
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,039
and he's so odd ball, you know what I mean?

855
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I can see where it kind of

856
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,800
just got off on the wrong foot.

857
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,159
Speaker 2: It seemed like Sam I was actually upset.

858
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,119
Speaker 3: Well, I have heard some I've heard some conflicting reports

859
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:44,000
that know. Actually Sam was getting annoyed.

860
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: So the other topic I joined a little late, but

861
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,719
you might have been talking about it. I mean, Epstein,

862
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,760
what is going on? Like?

863
00:50:55,079 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 3: First off, I mean, it's a huge Trump fail. They're

864
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,480
they're covering it up and it's a huge Trump Phil

865
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:01,639
That's that's what's going on.

866
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: I guess. But that seems a little too obvious, don't

867
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:04,719
you think?

868
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: Well, no, why can't a lot of things are obvious?

869
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:11,440
Why was that too obvious? What do you mean? I mean?

870
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,639
I did. I did an hour long interview with the

871
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,960
guy who broke all this stuff originally, Nick Bryant, and

872
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,840
you know, okay, yeah, I mean I think that probably

873
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,400
even more so than like the PDF stuff, there's probably

874
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,800
like financial crime stuff that's being covered up, like in

875
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,480
other words, high level lobbyists, banking elitees that are compromised,

876
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:39,199
and the word has gone out. You know, you cannot

877
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,480
let this get out. And it obviously it relates to

878
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,559
the Israeli stuff too.

879
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,559
Speaker 2: And Alex had Ah, what's that judge.

880
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:51,519
Speaker 3: On Napolitanum No the black dudes.

881
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly what he said to that.

882
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,599
Speaker 6: You know, the way this works is, you know, you

883
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,400
have operatives and stuff like this, and there's compromising information

884
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,239
and it's actually quite complicated that they obviously don't that's.

885
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: One of the reasons why they're kind of bearing this.

886
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,159
Speaker 33: I that's if that's the case, and it is kind

887
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:21,239
of you know, as we're all expecting it to be.

888
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: That's just the end of Trump. And I mean he's

889
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:25,800
just over right.

890
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:30,159
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't it's not going well. I don't

891
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:33,440
see anybody defending it except for like the you know,

892
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,960
Ben Shapiro sphere, like you know, fible Mouskowitz is the

893
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,280
only one that's defending it.

894
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, tells me something.

895
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: Nobody likes my fible Mouscuwitz joke. I thought that was

896
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,039
like a really funny, Like, does nobody know who's Nobody's seen?

897
00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:52,360
My jokes just don't land anymore. I think I'm just

898
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,679
I'm speaking into the void of a bunch of people

899
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,639
that are dead and gone, and nobody knows these references.

900
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:04,320
I mean, nobody's seen five Mouskowitz, that's he's been Shapiro anyway.

901
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:11,000
I thought it was funny, Zachary, what's up? You're wrong

902
00:53:11,079 --> 00:53:13,840
to say that Sam Hyde is super funny. In fact,

903
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:17,000
many people doubted that he could do stand up. He

904
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,079
even doubted himself. His standard routine is off the hook.

905
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:24,280
It's legit awesome. I'm not just saying that because I

906
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,280
write for the Sam Hide Show. He's his stand up

907
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:39,719
is really funny. What's up, man, Zachary, I you JT

908
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,920
thirty one two dollars. You guys are underestimating Harlan's layers. Interesting.

909
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:48,480
I'm really enjoying everybody's takes on this pot this wild podcast.

910
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:52,559
I mean, I'm not a Harlan hater. I don't dislike Harlan.

911
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:56,159
I don't think he is. That's what I'm saying is

912
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:58,800
like you've got when you go back in time into

913
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,760
the nineties and two thousand and you think about oddball comics.

914
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,440
You've got like a Steven Wright, You've got Harlan Williams,

915
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,679
You've got you know, Mitch Hedberg is kind of an

916
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:16,440
oddball style comedy guy. Tom Green is kind of an

917
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:23,639
odd ball troll comedy guy. Uh. And so I would

918
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:26,840
have thought that they vibe well together. I don't know,

919
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:35,800
what's up man, I'm but also.

920
00:54:35,599 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 17: Too, I mean, you can also have a situation where

921
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,199
maybe they would have vibed under the right situations right right,

922
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,400
like maybe maybe somebody's having a bad day, you know,

923
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:44,960
maybe they.

924
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 3: Were just tired. And I mean I've been on podcasts,

925
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,599
even big podcasts, where I'm like, all right, I'm ready

926
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:52,920
to get out of here, all right, you know, I

927
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,480
need to leave before I get mad, you know what

928
00:54:54,519 --> 00:54:57,119
I mean. So this that does happen too. What's up, man?

929
00:54:57,199 --> 00:55:01,159
Are you gonna i'mute or not? Zach? Oh my gosh ude,

930
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:06,519
what is going on with just the internet just broken today?

931
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,199
Somebody hacked the internet? What's up? Hunter? What's up?

932
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 34: Can you hear me? Yes, sir, hey, since it's any topic,

933
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,079
I've got like two like semi goofy questions.

934
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,639
Speaker 17: To ask, Yes, please do please, don't ask me about

935
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:30,840
PSA and rebaptism. I'm gonna start saying any topic but that,

936
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,320
and then we're good.

937
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,119
Speaker 34: Well of My two questions are, do you think people

938
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,320
can like literally sell their souls to Satan for like

939
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,639
musical talent, and if so, listening to people like the

940
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:45,679
Beatles or Valling Stones led Zeppelin that credit their talent

941
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:46,159
to Satan.

942
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 3: I don't know how that would happen if you literally could.

943
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,639
I think mostly it's an analogy to selling out to

944
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:04,079
the industry. Okay, I don't typically listen to led Zeppel

945
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:08,480
one of the Beatles anyway, just because I don't like

946
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,159
I liked it when I was a teenager, but I'm

947
00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:16,920
not a teenager anymore. So I mean I would say

948
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,480
in the okay, I would say in the realm, like

949
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:22,480
in the in the domain of music, unless it's just

950
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:26,480
super degenerate and gross and satanic, I don't really think

951
00:56:26,519 --> 00:56:30,079
that it's a big deal. That's my take on it.

952
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 34: I guess my last question why I have you these

953
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,000
kind of famous kind of like kind of videos of

954
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:42,079
like celebrities like Cardi B and Katy Perry like having

955
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:44,360
quote unquote m kilt glitches. Do you think that's all

956
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,679
bullshit or do you think that's like.

957
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 3: I know that in the case of this the Katie

958
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,280
Perry one, they did say a long time ago that

959
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,599
she does that pretty regularly in her in her shows

960
00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:59,719
as kind of like viral marketing, spectacle marketing. So in

961
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,880
her case and some of those instances that is not

962
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:04,599
it was it was planned. I know that in the

963
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:07,079
case of like, you know, Michael Jackson, a lot of

964
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:10,320
the things they would do were actually marketing schemes as well,

965
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,960
like the hyperbaric chamber and all this kind of stuff

966
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,920
that would keep him in the news. So there is

967
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,840
a layer of that in terms of entertainment and pop

968
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,920
culture figures who do a lot of this stuff on purpose.

969
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:23,440
But then in a lot of cases, like in the

970
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,840
case of Sam and the Harlan show, like it's it's

971
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,800
unclear what to what degree this was a planned spectacle

972
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,679
or whether this was just really like they're not getting along.

973
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,800
So I think both things go on. But I do

974
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,280
think that in the case of many of the abused

975
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,559
pop stars, in the case of like Britney Spears, Amanda Bynds,

976
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:45,199
I would say they're having actual, like in culture.

977
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: Breakdowns, Okay, Okay, thanks for your time, Jay.

978
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, good questions.

979
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 17: Even I was skeptical of that with Katie Perry, I mean,

980
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,199
not Katy Perry, Britney Spears until all the stuff about

981
00:57:58,239 --> 00:57:59,960
her conservatorship.

982
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 3: Came out and I was like, no, dang, they like

983
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,639
she really is like a mind controlled product. That's that's crazy. Uh,

984
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:09,920
Chase Haguard is back to destroy my DJ career.

985
00:58:12,199 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 31: No, I think I've already done that handed well, hopefully

986
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:19,639
hopefully you can hear me now I'm connected to Wi Fi.

987
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,039
I wanted to ask after I had a comment about

988
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:27,079
what the prior caller was saying about the selling of

989
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:29,800
souls to the devil? Can I do a short bit

990
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,199
of self shilling for my upcoming first solo project release?

991
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:33,559
Speaker 3: Sure?

992
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:34,599
Speaker 35: Cool.

993
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:39,639
Speaker 31: I think it's interesting when you look at music because

994
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,639
it's similar to other things, like, you know, people will

995
00:58:42,639 --> 00:58:45,000
talk about quote unquote, you know, cuss words and stuff

996
00:58:45,039 --> 00:58:48,239
like saying S H I T is not inherently evil.

997
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,719
Speaker 2: I think it's it's pretty goofy to.

998
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,519
Speaker 31: Think that because someone's not orthodox, or because they're not

999
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:58,000
heterodoxy even that there can't be intrinsic value in the art.

1000
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: There's limited amount of building.

1001
00:59:00,039 --> 00:59:04,079
Speaker 31: Blocks that God created of this amazing thing called music

1002
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:09,039
that we can all play with. And music inherently is

1003
00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:11,800
created for worship. And so I think there's arguments that

1004
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,760
I can make and people can make that music has

1005
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,199
to be worshiping something, and you know, so you can

1006
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,519
say someone's intent was evil, but at the same time

1007
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,559
you can you can still get universal experiences that are

1008
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:30,679
universal to being a human from all types of secular artists.

1009
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:33,760
You know, I John Mayer has some great songs. I'm

1010
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,519
not talking about my Body as a Wonderland. I know

1011
00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:37,920
that's one of your favorite songs. Day John Mayer has

1012
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:38,800
some word music.

1013
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:40,639
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know he wrote that about me.

1014
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,199
So but don't tell anybody that keep that on the download.

1015
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,119
Speaker 31: Yeah, I'm just surprised how honest you're being today. It's crazy,

1016
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:53,400
but uh, but it's it's interesting because I think that

1017
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,360
you can look at led Zeppelin, the Beatles, whoever, if

1018
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,079
you get things out of that art, well, it's a

1019
00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:01,599
universal language in this in a much deeper sense, is

1020
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:05,440
it typically used that is designed to communicate these things

1021
01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:09,280
and lead to you know, quote unquote spiritual experiences in

1022
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,519
a sense where not this music doesn't belong in the liturgy.

1023
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:14,239
Speaker 2: Rock music doesn't belong in the liturgy.

1024
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,119
Speaker 31: But you know, not being able to separate the art

1025
01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:19,360
from the artists is something I think we need to

1026
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,559
be able to do, just like not being able to

1027
01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:25,039
separate the message from the messenger. And on that note,

1028
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,960
a little bit of self shilling. If anybody likes indie

1029
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:31,559
rock kind of stuff. I make music for solo projects.

1030
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,559
Doing my first tune release on Monday. If you want

1031
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:37,119
to subscribe to my YouTube, Chase Haggard Music. It's like

1032
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:38,960
MGMT mixed with modest mouse.

1033
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:41,519
Speaker 3: But I just, by the way, subscribe to your channel.

1034
01:00:41,559 --> 01:00:43,000
I just found it for the first time.

1035
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,119
Speaker 2: I just blocked you, so that's perfect. You won't be

1036
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:54,880
able to well, I was going to, but it's like

1037
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:07,599
MGM anti semitic, anti cynical. To appreciate it, I want to.

1038
01:01:08,679 --> 01:01:12,199
Speaker 3: That's okay. We don't mind you showing gypsies. Chase is

1039
01:01:12,239 --> 01:01:12,679
a thief.

1040
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,119
Speaker 17: Gypsies Chase seas That was my share, by the way,

1041
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:21,039
because there's something a gypsy jazz.

1042
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: This is gypsy. Yes, it is gypsy jazz. Look at

1043
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,000
mister sand Man.

1044
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:34,199
Speaker 17: I don't really hear any metallicans I'll take Chase's word

1045
01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:34,559
for it.

1046
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: It's mister Sandman. I'm thinking inter sand Man. I thought

1047
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:45,239
Chase was over here doing Metallica gypsy jazz. Mister Sandman, Oh,

1048
01:01:45,519 --> 01:01:50,159
mister Sandman, bring me. I thought he was doing inter Sandman. Dude,

1049
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,760
I like to enter sand the gypsy jazz better, so

1050
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:04,159
you pray. I don't even know the words of that

1051
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,920
stupid essong. By the way, shout out to our buddies

1052
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:15,599
Jamie Kennedy and Sam Tripolonius having a pretty popular podcast.

1053
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,800
They're doing this well, we should tell you the exact opposite.

1054
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,159
This one was popping off to forty thousand.

1055
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,599
Speaker 17: That's popping off over here on I hate to break

1056
01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:27,360
it to you, Jamie Kennedy with Sam tripoli brand New

1057
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:31,840
All this drama with the Sam High podcast with Harley

1058
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,119
Williams is kind of.

1059
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,639
Speaker 3: Kind of taking over the comedy sphere.

1060
01:02:36,679 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 17: But don't miss this gem. They had a great conversation

1061
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,960
as well. Our buddies over here.

1062
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: And by the way, we will be back on Jamie

1063
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,039
Kennedy's podcast in the near future. We were just talking

1064
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:53,039
about that the other day. Debt and I get you

1065
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:56,840
guys back dea ont you guys.

1066
01:02:56,719 --> 01:03:00,719
Speaker 30: Back and you're listening to them and not listening to me.

1067
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 3: That's how powerful the programming is.

1068
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 2: I've heard people say they broke dad.

1069
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:09,719
Speaker 3: By the way. Awesome new set there, I like Jamie sett.

1070
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:19,480
Everybody's upping their their set, begging at upgrade. Where are

1071
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:19,800
we at?

1072
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:33,239
Speaker 17: Intersand man thieves, gypsies.

1073
01:03:32,639 --> 01:03:37,639
Speaker 3: Chases a thief? Did you guys like the member episode?

1074
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:43,000
I thought it was pretty good mouse shit and we.

1075
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,079
Speaker 17: Got some fire coming to by the way, we got well,

1076
01:03:46,119 --> 01:03:48,280
maybe I should keep it secret as to what episodes

1077
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,119
they're about to roll out. Oh look at that right there,

1078
01:03:56,639 --> 01:04:00,440
just so you know. People pretending to look they like

1079
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,599
they're involved in this. People pretending like they have a

1080
01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:08,480
stake in this. People are pretending like they know and

1081
01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:13,760
have a stake in it. All right, let's see what

1082
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,559
we got over here on the super chats. Catch up

1083
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,599
on that real quick, gen Z three dollars.

1084
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 3: The thing about the younger generation humor that older generations

1085
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,679
don't get, whether you're trying to do common or not,

1086
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,440
is that we are laughing at you. Modern comedians are

1087
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:35,800
conforming to that reality. That's a good way to put it. Yeah,

1088
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,400
that's a good insight there. I like that gen Z.

1089
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:42,360
That's another angle to this, which you know, Andy Kaufman

1090
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,320
was this way in the eighties and and even to

1091
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:50,199
a degree I forget when he died, maybe late eighties,

1092
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,920
but he was always making fun of everybody in the audience,

1093
01:04:54,119 --> 01:04:56,119
was the butt of the joke. So he was kind

1094
01:04:56,119 --> 01:05:03,920
of like the first trolley comic, right, And Boomers liked

1095
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Andy Kaufman. So I'm wondering, like, what how come boomers

1096
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,599
liked Andy Kaufman and that weird stuff. But when people

1097
01:05:12,679 --> 01:05:15,280
do that same type of stuff, it's just like they

1098
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:15,840
don't get it.

1099
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 17: It's like what, I don't, I don't what does that mean?

1100
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:25,639
That's the word. And I'm guessing it's because in the boomer.

1101
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:30,679
Speaker 3: Mindset, you can't make fun of the boomer himself. You know,

1102
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,320
Andy Kaufman could troll the audience and it's funny. But

1103
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,599
when it's the butt of the joke is the boomer himself,

1104
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,000
or when it's like a critique of the dumb shit

1105
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:43,960
that everybody believes in society, maybe that is where it

1106
01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:47,920
just doesn't work. I don't know. This is a mystery

1107
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,679
to me. I don't understand why. It's just it's bizarre.

1108
01:05:50,719 --> 01:05:59,000
It's really crazy boomers like Jonathan Winters. Yeah, I mean yeah,

1109
01:05:59,239 --> 01:06:01,960
but boomers like Andy Kaufman, and he was trolling everybody.

1110
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,400
I don't know. It's it's a fascinating question. I don't

1111
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:14,239
know what's going on. Let's see. Yeah, Okay, we're caught

1112
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:19,320
up on those super chats. Let's see who's next, John, Yeah,

1113
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,119
what's up? John?

1114
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: Hey?

1115
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:26,519
Speaker 8: Jay?

1116
01:06:26,679 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on.

1117
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:33,679
Speaker 36: Man, I've got a question about the Bible. I hate

1118
01:06:33,719 --> 01:06:36,920
to switch gears, uh, get too serious on this, but

1119
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:40,960
I've got a question. I've been looking into Orthodoxy and

1120
01:06:41,679 --> 01:06:44,440
everything that I've seen so far, it's almost feels like

1121
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:47,639
I've been looking for this like my whole life, and

1122
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:51,119
but I just I don't know, I've just discovered it,

1123
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,599
so I have a few questions still. My question is

1124
01:06:56,639 --> 01:07:00,599
it seems like the I don't have to references in

1125
01:07:00,639 --> 01:07:04,880
front of me, but if you look at like the

1126
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:10,960
view of the resurrection of the dead, the Orthodox seemed

1127
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:15,239
to take like a a literal kind of view of

1128
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,880
the physical, like like your physical body is resurrected.

1129
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,519
Speaker 3: That's that's all. That's all. Christianity's classical, I mean Catholic, Orthodox, Protestants,

1130
01:07:25,559 --> 01:07:26,920
all believe in the bodily resurrection.

1131
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:31,519
Speaker 36: So also the view of like the new heavens and

1132
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:35,199
the new Earth that seems to be like a more

1133
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,519
literal kind of a view, like it's it's physical.

1134
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,599
Speaker 3: I don't have the words for this, but yeah, we

1135
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:46,920
would say it's Protestant to or it's Gnostic to think

1136
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:52,119
of this in some you know, non physical literal way. Right.

1137
01:07:53,159 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 36: So I've always kind of read the Bible very simply

1138
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,480
just kind of I wouldn't say literal, but I've kind

1139
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:03,519
I kind of just when I read the Old Testament

1140
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:08,800
just assume a plain sense kind of meaning. I know,

1141
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:14,360
I'm perfectly fine with a lot of typology, but I

1142
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,039
just don't see a whole lot of that as informing

1143
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:22,560
like the hope in the Old Testament it's coming from

1144
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:28,760
like the you know, the the fall being I guess reversed,

1145
01:08:30,199 --> 01:08:32,079
and in the New Testament it seems to kind.

1146
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,319
Speaker 2: Of carry over. So here's my question.

1147
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,560
Speaker 3: What Okay, I'm not going to be a dick. I'm

1148
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,880
just I'm not understanding what hope is lost or not

1149
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,920
carry what's well.

1150
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 36: No, I'm just saying, like the I guess, so my

1151
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,880
question is like ascheological, I guess. So the hope of

1152
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,640
the Old Testament seems to be in this resurrection and

1153
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,079
the new heavens and the new Earth. But it seems

1154
01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:57,159
like in a lot of these passages that explain it,

1155
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:04,359
you've got kind of a very plain sense, uh description

1156
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:09,800
of Jerusalem being like like in Ezekiel forty three, you know,

1157
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,840
or it's like in the New the New there's like

1158
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,920
a temple and you have God saying this is the

1159
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,359
place of the souls of my feet.

1160
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,239
Speaker 2: Not that I think that God has like literal feet.

1161
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 36: But it seems like a lot of places like you

1162
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:29,119
have this idea of Jerusalem being kind of the at

1163
01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:33,079
the center, I guess, or like the place where God is.

1164
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that they're they're talking about the first Advent

1165
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,159
of the Messiah. So the restoration of the Tabernacle of David,

1166
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:46,880
God sending out the law from Mount Zion is ultimately

1167
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,000
fulfilled in the first appearance of Christ. So that's the

1168
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last days. The the asketon is now rather than pointing

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01:09:55,279 --> 01:09:56,920
in putting it off to you know, the end of

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the world. The escaton began at the First Advent, and

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the why the New Testament is so emphatic that the

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promises of the Old Testament are realities right now?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so but when.

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Speaker 36: Obviously there's more to come, like when Jesus returns, So

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what role does Like it just seems like there's so

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01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:22,920
many passages where it just seems like if there's a

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if there's a if you have a restored body and

1178
01:10:28,079 --> 01:10:30,640
there's a new heavens and a new earth, that assume

1179
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:35,399
it's not a spiritual it's not totally. I know that

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01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,239
language is used like in onse Grinthians fifteen, like of

1181
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,159
you know, the spiritual man, but you know it does

1182
01:10:42,319 --> 01:10:44,640
it doesn't mean that it's one or the other, right,

1183
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,119
it's like the way that God intended his creation to

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01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:52,680
be in the beginning, where it's you know, there's I

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,800
guess it's a glorified creation. Forgive me for my lack

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01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,520
of understanding of this language, but it just make sense

1187
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,239
to me that, you know, Jerusalem would be a.

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01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,239
Speaker 2: Literal place as well.

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Speaker 36: Like where what is the disconnect there? Because it seems

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like that's where I can with a lot of Orthodox

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theologians that I've read, is that you get you get

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like an understanding of the resurrected body, a literal new heavens,

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01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,319
in the New Earth. But it's like the idea of

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Jerusalem being a literal place where you know, Jesus will So, okay, I.

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Speaker 3: See what you're saying. So the how we know what

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01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:36,439
is quote figurative versus what is literal is going to

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be conditioned by the Bible itself and the coherence of

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the Old New Testament together. So for example, how do

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I know in what sense, for example, the word the

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01:11:46,199 --> 01:11:48,720
word Jerusalem is to be taken in the New Testament

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01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,520
and the and the escaton sense. Well, thankfully, there's many

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01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,279
places in the New Testament where that's actually discussed. So

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for example, in Galatians, for when Paul talks about the

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allegory of the New Jerusalem, he describes that as the

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Jerusalem that is from above, which is our heavenly Mother,

1206
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:16,159
which is the Church. So the true Jerusalem is the Church,

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which Paul explains here in Galatians for rejoice, so baron.

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So no, he's you know, signing the Old Testament, you

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do not bear, break forth and shout or not in labor.

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You have had many children. And so he talks about Isaac,

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01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,760
and he talks about Ishmael, and he says that the

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real Jerusalem is the one that is above the heavenly Jerusalem,

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which is the Mother of us all. And this promise

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to Abraham is fulfilled in the heavenly Jerusalem, which is

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01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,680
mother Church. So do you understand that, like the questions

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that you're asking, I'm not saying they're bad questions, but

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they're answered in the New Testament itself. So could there

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,439
be an actual Holy Land in the Escuton, Yeah, sure,

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,720
Jesus could recreate the heaven and the earth and keep

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elements of you know, what existed before. I mean, in

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the New Testament era. The church calls it the Holy Land.

1222
01:13:14,319 --> 01:13:17,960
There's an Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 3: So it's not like it goes away because we're in

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01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,039
the New Testament necessarily, right.

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Speaker 36: Okay, Well yeah, because it seems kind of it's just

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hard to think about like there being you know, like

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in the resurrection, like being in a certain place. But

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it seems pretty clear that you have a resurrected body,

1230
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,319
which would require it doesn't seem to be there, doesn't

1231
01:13:40,319 --> 01:13:42,399
seem to be a contradiction with place.

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Speaker 3: So no, No, the Orthodox view is that there is

1233
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a new heavens and a new Earth, and it is

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a physical place with physical locations. And so when Jesus

1235
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resurrected and he's walking around the end the Gospel John

1236
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,960
eating fish, that's showing you the model of the body

1237
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:05,399
in the Escaton. Ah, So it is spatial still, yes.

1238
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Speaker 36: Okay, So I like your answer though it's kind of

1239
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It doesn't have to be one way or another. It's

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just you know, there may be a physical place I

1241
01:14:15,359 --> 01:14:18,199
guess that call Jerusalem, but it's not. That's not what

1242
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the passages in the Old Testament point towards.

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01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 3: Well, Like if you look at Isaiah sixty five, it says, behold,

1244
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,680
I create a new heavens and a new earth. The

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,079
former will not be remembered, it will not come to mind.

1246
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Be glad and rejoice. I create Jerusalem as a rejoicing

1247
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,399
I rejoice in Jerusalem, my people, and there will no

1248
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,960
longer be weeping or crying. This is all referenced, of course,

1249
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,880
in the apocalypse of the Church and of the escaton.

1250
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,720
So this is a present reality where you know, God

1251
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,840
is basically saying that my people are my elect they're

1252
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,279
my offering, they're my descendants. It's talking about the Church.

1253
01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:57,960
It's not talking about primarily you know, something going on

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over in the Middle East in the place.

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Speaker 36: Okay, that makes sense, yes, because I mean that's like

1256
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one of the passages that you see and you know

1257
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it's it's I think it's described as the New Jerusalem

1258
01:15:09,119 --> 01:15:11,960
in the Book of Revelation, but always thought that it's

1259
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not going to be buildings coming down from Heaven.

1260
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Speaker 3: No, it's the people are we are the new Jerusalem exactly.

1261
01:15:17,319 --> 01:15:20,600
That's why that's why Paul calls the New Jerusalem the

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Church right there? Wired, what's up?

1263
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:23,039
Speaker 24: Man?

1264
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Speaker 3: Good question, though, Wired, what's up?

1265
01:15:33,159 --> 01:15:39,119
Speaker 2: I'm you Hello? Can you hear me?

1266
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 37: You Zach or.

1267
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Speaker 25: Hello?

1268
01:15:44,119 --> 01:15:44,359
Speaker 35: Jay?

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Speaker 12: I'm an agnologic and I'm looking into different religions and philosophies.

1270
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,760
I'm leaning to ours Christianity, but I'm calling in to

1271
01:15:58,279 --> 01:16:03,640
ask about your thoughts on the CTM you by Chris Langan.

1272
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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with him and his theory?

1273
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, I think it's kind of similar to TAG

1274
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,319
in certain ways, at least in the methodological approach. It's

1275
01:16:17,319 --> 01:16:21,359
similar in that it's more of an abstracted, logical type

1276
01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:30,199
of argument. But Chris Langon is a very committed classical foundationalist,

1277
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so he believes in very sort of self evident maxims

1278
01:16:34,399 --> 01:16:39,079
as a starting point, and the type of deity that

1279
01:16:39,119 --> 01:16:42,039
he argues for is just kind of like a platonic

1280
01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:46,640
mega mind. So I would have you know some critiques

1281
01:16:46,680 --> 01:17:03,119
of those positions. Basically, Matt, what's up, Matt Hedges? Oh,

1282
01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:04,960
what's up? Matt?

1283
01:17:06,199 --> 01:17:07,199
Speaker 2: Oh? Hey, how are you doing?

1284
01:17:07,279 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 3: Jake, what's on your mind?

1285
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? I've heard a common accusation.

1286
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Speaker 22: I've heard in Eastern Orthodox circles that the Reform tradition

1287
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has a history and tendency.

1288
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,279
Speaker 2: In its christology when it comes to the communication of properties. Correct,

1289
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,960
do you believe that accusation? And how would you flush

1290
01:17:26,039 --> 01:17:26,279
that out?

1291
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? For example, or Herman Ritterboss talks about Jesus as

1292
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:31,319
a human person.

1293
01:17:33,119 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 22: Yes, So for one thing, I don't think that Reformed

1294
01:17:36,199 --> 01:17:40,279
like Orthodoxy, is defined by necessarily MacArthur's sproll or someone

1295
01:17:40,319 --> 01:17:40,840
like river Bus.

1296
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: I think it's more like sixteenth and seventeenth century reforms.

1297
01:17:44,039 --> 01:17:47,039
Speaker 3: Colossal who like, why is that where we go? By

1298
01:17:47,039 --> 01:17:50,119
the way their nerve? No Storian two Turretan. Doesn't Turretin

1299
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:52,880
think that Jesus sheds his human nature in the Escaton?

1300
01:17:54,399 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 4: No?

1301
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,039
Speaker 38: No, not that I know, Okay, But regardless Turretin is

1302
01:17:58,039 --> 01:18:01,720
more of a polemicist than a systematician, but with regards

1303
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,960
to the Westminster Divines in particular, I mean I've read

1304
01:18:05,119 --> 01:18:05,600
some of like.

1305
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 3: The did Jesus take the Father's wrath? I'm sorry, did

1306
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,319
Jesus take the Father's wrath?

1307
01:18:13,359 --> 01:18:16,279
Speaker 22: So I think there's a difference between like being punished

1308
01:18:16,279 --> 01:18:18,680
properly in the sense of like the imputation of guilt

1309
01:18:19,319 --> 01:18:20,920
versus like receiving punishment.

1310
01:18:21,239 --> 01:18:23,159
Speaker 3: I think did the Father damn the son? I mean

1311
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:27,119
many of the first generation second generation reformers.

1312
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 22: Say that, Yeah, I think it's a I think that's

1313
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,720
a misinterpretation of Calvin.

1314
01:18:34,199 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: More of the accusation. I just don't think it's.

1315
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,279
Speaker 3: What's the right interpretation? Yeah?

1316
01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:41,319
Speaker 22: So, I mean, if you're referring to like those texts

1317
01:18:41,319 --> 01:18:43,119
in which it talks about Christ.

1318
01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 3: I don't really care about Calvin, Like, what do you

1319
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,720
think is the right position? What's your position? Yeah?

1320
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: So I think Christ like received the punishment that was

1321
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,279
due to.

1322
01:18:51,319 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 3: Sin, which is which is what? Which is what? Which

1323
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:56,199
is what?

1324
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bearing the wrath of God on the cross.

1325
01:18:59,439 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: That's not okay.

1326
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,399
Speaker 17: So I asked you specifically and it took you like

1327
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:03,640
five minutes to get to this point.

1328
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,359
Speaker 3: So Jesus bears the wrath? What is the wrath? What

1329
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,439
is the wrath of the father?

1330
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 2: To be fair, I called him askeding about the community.

1331
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,399
Speaker 3: What is the wrath of the father? Come on, dude,

1332
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,399
what's the wrath of the father? Yeah?

1333
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,359
Speaker 2: So it on the cross, Christ experienced the same genus of.

1334
01:19:19,359 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 3: Punishment, genus of punishment. And is that damnation or not?

1335
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 22: It is not not the same as the damn in Hill. No,

1336
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,319
it's it is making satisfaction, okay.

1337
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,079
Speaker 3: And what was the penalty that was due that he took?

1338
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:38,159
Did the Father forsake him?

1339
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 2: I mean not in the way that like you might

1340
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:40,880
hear some.

1341
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 3: People like, Okay, then in what way? In what way?

1342
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1343
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,520
Speaker 22: So I mean Christ experienced like some of like the

1344
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:50,680
distress and anguish.

1345
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Speaker 3: Some of it. Okay. So did the father turn his

1346
01:19:54,039 --> 01:19:55,079
back on him?

1347
01:19:55,319 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: Did he forsake him? Is there a verse? If my

1348
01:20:00,079 --> 01:20:01,399
thinking of the verse in Isaiah Crow.

1349
01:20:01,359 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 3: I'm asking you, dude, you tell me your position. Stop

1350
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,000
asking me questions. Did the father forsake the son the

1351
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:11,039
way that the psalms are interpreted in your view? Yeah?

1352
01:20:11,079 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: So I don't think that God the Father damned the son.

1353
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So what does it mean? You said, it's some

1354
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,880
of the elements of rejection. What does that mean?

1355
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the imputation of sin to Christ like Christ?

1356
01:20:23,319 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 3: And what does that mean? What? What is this? What

1357
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:26,359
is the punishment?

1358
01:20:28,319 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 22: Yeah, the punishment is making is bearing like the indignation

1359
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,119
of God against sin in the qualitative sense, but not

1360
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:34,800
the quantitative.

1361
01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:38,039
Speaker 3: Okay. So did he take the penalty? Okay? So you're

1362
01:20:38,079 --> 01:20:40,079
saying a bunch of sophistry. So did he damn the

1363
01:20:40,079 --> 01:20:43,279
sun or not? No? I just told you that, right,

1364
01:20:43,319 --> 01:20:45,760
So he didn't, But he took the wrath. What's the wrath?

1365
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:46,600
That's not damning?

1366
01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:51,399
Speaker 2: The wrath that's not Yeah, damnation properly is eternal.

1367
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 3: Okay. Did he take the equivalence of that.

1368
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: Qualitative equivalents not a quantitative one.

1369
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Speaker 3: That's why?

1370
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Speaker 28: Damn?

1371
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Speaker 2: This is not hard.

1372
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 3: Oh, it's not hard. Right, I don't understand it. Right,

1373
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So we didn't say.

1374
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,279
Speaker 22: You don't understand that. I'm saying that a lot of

1375
01:21:07,319 --> 01:21:08,560
the fathers use a slanguage too.

1376
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 3: No they don't, No, they don't. Where do the fathers

1377
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:11,079
use this like?

1378
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 2: Okay, did Christ take the penalty of our sin upon.

1379
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Speaker 3: I don't have the same idea what the penalty is

1380
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,800
as you. I believe what John Damascus says in book three.

1381
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But I'm asking you, since you believe that damnation is

1382
01:21:22,359 --> 01:21:24,119
the penalty, how is it the penalty that he took?

1383
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't. I did not say that Christ was damned.

1384
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I explicitly deny.

1385
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 28: I know that.

1386
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Speaker 3: But I'm saying, if the penalty is damnation, then how

1387
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,079
did he take the penalty for us?

1388
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, can you say that again?

1389
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,199
Speaker 3: If the penalty is damnation, then how did he take

1390
01:21:41,239 --> 01:21:42,880
that penalty for us if he wasn't.

1391
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:47,199
Speaker 22: Damned, because he can suffer the same genus of punishment

1392
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without its quality.

1393
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,119
Speaker 3: What does that? What does that even mean? What does

1394
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:52,039
genus and species have to do with this?

1395
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: Genus and species? Like basic, what.

1396
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 3: Does it have to do with this question? I know

1397
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,840
what the words mean. Don't play bullshit with me. Come on, man.

1398
01:22:01,239 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's the same time, but not the.

1399
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:09,600
Speaker 3: Same So so because it wasn't eternal, it's not eternal damnation.

1400
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,479
So you're doing you're playing word games. But he was

1401
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,119
damned by the Father, just not eternally.

1402
01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying that damnation properly is eternal.

1403
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 3: Uh huh. So what was the punishment that he took.

1404
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,199
That's not our punishment.

1405
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,199
Speaker 2: I already told you. It's bearing the sins of work.

1406
01:22:25,319 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 3: And that is what exactly he is.

1407
01:22:27,399 --> 01:22:30,239
Speaker 2: He is receiving the same type of punishment.

1408
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 3: Because the father ceased to love him and share the

1409
01:22:32,039 --> 01:22:35,640
same will as him. Oh so he did, so he

1410
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,159
so he punishes. So what.

1411
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 2: I know the past, I know the quotes from Calvin

1412
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:42,279
that beller me.

1413
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 3: I don't care about Calvin, Dude, tell me what the

1414
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,760
correct position is from the scriptures that you believe. Nobody

1415
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,520
cares about John Calvin here. Yeah.

1416
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,119
Speaker 2: So, yeah, Well it's a common accusation against the reform.

1417
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:54,800
That's why I mentioned it.

1418
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 3: But yeah, I know, I make it all the time

1419
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,640
because most reformed people historically have believed that Jesus suffered

1420
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,800
some sort of rejection by the father. And so I'm asking,

1421
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,560
does the father turn his will against the son?

1422
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 2: Does he turn his will against the son? No, because

1423
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:09,439
there's only one will.

1424
01:23:09,319 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 3: In the Okay, So how does he punish him and

1425
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,279
go against him and use the terminology of a qualified damnation,

1426
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,199
a qualified rejecting? In what sense is he rejecting him

1427
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:20,720
if he's not turning his will against.

1428
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,159
Speaker 2: Him, right, So you have to distinguish.

1429
01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:25,319
Speaker 3: But like I said, is he is he hating the son?

1430
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: No, No, one's saying that.

1431
01:23:28,119 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 39: I know that.

1432
01:23:29,159 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 3: And how is he punishing? No, it's not just John MacArthur.

1433
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,680
It's a bunch of the reform traditions. So I want

1434
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,479
to understand what this punishment is and what this turning

1435
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,680
away is. What does it mean when he says the

1436
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,399
father forsook him?

1437
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, the father forsaken Yeah.

1438
01:23:43,159 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 22: So like he did not have like as full a

1439
01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:46,840
sense of the beatific vision for example.

1440
01:23:47,159 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so Jesus stopped being a divine person.

1441
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 2: That's not what I said.

1442
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,199
Speaker 3: How do you not have a division a vision of

1443
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:56,640
the of God if you're a divine person. Is Jesus

1444
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,319
a divine person?

1445
01:23:58,560 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Jesus is a divine person.

1446
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,359
Speaker 3: But he lost the beatific visions. But he lost the

1447
01:24:02,359 --> 01:24:06,600
beatific vision, Yes you did. You just said he didn't

1448
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,000
have the fullness of it. You just lied.

1449
01:24:09,279 --> 01:24:11,159
Speaker 2: The fullness of it is different from having it. If

1450
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:12,319
you can't distinguish that, I.

1451
01:24:12,319 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 3: Can't distinguish it. So Jesus lost the beatific vision, but

1452
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,199
he still had some of it, so he could like

1453
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:18,119
see through a glass darkly, the beatific vision.

1454
01:24:19,119 --> 01:24:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Christ experience like the darkness and his soul.

1455
01:24:22,079 --> 01:24:24,279
Speaker 3: On the cross darkness in this don't you know what

1456
01:24:24,279 --> 01:24:26,760
that means? I'm asking you your position, which is nonsense.

1457
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:31,359
So Jesus lost the beatific vision as a divine person. No,

1458
01:24:31,399 --> 01:24:34,399
I don't. So you're a nestorian exactly as we said

1459
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:35,399
from the very beginning.

1460
01:24:36,119 --> 01:24:38,319
Speaker 22: No, No, I believe Christ is a divine person that

1461
01:24:38,359 --> 01:24:39,640
assumed the human nature.

1462
01:24:39,319 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 3: The divine person doesn't lose the beatific vision. Heretic and

1463
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:54,199
there is no beatific vision Latin sense anyway, you don't

1464
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:58,079
see the divine essence but on their own model. If

1465
01:24:58,399 --> 01:25:02,039
being a divine person is being the divine essence, how

1466
01:25:02,039 --> 01:25:04,359
do you not really fully see the divine sc That

1467
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,720
was so stupid, What a bunch of sophistry and word games.

1468
01:25:08,279 --> 01:25:10,439
And he kept wanting to debate Calvin's But I don't

1469
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:18,840
care about Calvin's position, exempted cat, what's up? Jesus lost

1470
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:27,760
the betic vision, but only a little bit. I'm mute.

1471
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:28,279
What's up.

1472
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 40: All?

1473
01:25:38,119 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 9: I can't connect, Young Sheldon kah.

1474
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 20: Yo, Uh yeah, I just wanted to talk a little

1475
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:12,520
bit about that Sam Hyde podcast. I think I think

1476
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,000
my opinion is kind of in between you and the

1477
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:18,840
wine Mom. And I mean I'm a Sam Hide fan.

1478
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:23,199
I love his stuff. I just think that the problem

1479
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,439
was just a clashing comedy style. Like it's kind of

1480
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,079
like it's kind of like, you know, rock paper scissors,

1481
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:35,439
Like some comedy styles just dismantle or trump other ones.

1482
01:26:36,159 --> 01:26:39,600
And I think Sam Hyde's comedy is like really the

1483
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,600
crux of his whole thing is that he kind of

1484
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,960
like takes you into his domain. Like he just creates

1485
01:26:46,039 --> 01:26:50,000
like this crazy world and he like makes you subject

1486
01:26:50,039 --> 01:26:53,319
to it, like for example, the the paradigm shift, the

1487
01:26:53,359 --> 01:26:58,159
twenty twenty seventy paradigm shift. He hijacks this ted X

1488
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:01,920
talk and he takes all he's like these kind of

1489
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:03,079
like modern.

1490
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 2: Liberal fellas in the crowd.

1491
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 20: He just takes some hostage and he subjects him to

1492
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,960
all this like bullshit. And similar to the and also

1493
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,960
with the Eye Dubs thing, right, he takes I Dubs

1494
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:20,039
who doesn't realize what he's what he's getting into, brings

1495
01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:24,000
them into his like converted dental's office, totally flips the

1496
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,439
script on him, creates this wacky world where it's like,

1497
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,239
you know, this guy is like making beats in the corner,

1498
01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:33,800
he's smoking, his girlfriend is like high on meth, like

1499
01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:38,079
Ian can't even comprehend what's happening. And that's sort of

1500
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:42,000
his style. Sam, Like, yeah, Sam, Sam Hid likes to

1501
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:47,119
like take people into his domain and it's his world

1502
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:50,239
is like crazy, right, and that's where the absurdist kind

1503
01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:55,159
of humor is there. And Harlan he's he's sort of

1504
01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:57,920
absurdist as well, but he's it's it's a different way.

1505
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 2: Like like a first.

1506
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 20: Glance, you might think you know they're compatible because they're

1507
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,840
both you know, wacky, goofy, but really it's two completely

1508
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,439
different styles. Harland he's more like he's more like, you know,

1509
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,439
I don't really like him, so this might influence how

1510
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,640
I describe it. But He's he's just more like random.

1511
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,560
He's just more like it's less coherent, it's less structured, right,

1512
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,479
he just kind of says things. He throws out a

1513
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,159
joke here, changes the topic. It's like it's it's it

1514
01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:31,520
doesn't it doesn't actually coincide with Sam's style of humor.

1515
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: Like, so they're not really a good match for each other.

1516
01:28:35,239 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 20: And so like what I think is that Sam Hide

1517
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:43,039
he's just more structured and Harland he's just a little

1518
01:28:43,039 --> 01:28:48,119
bit more more random, and that actually dismantles Unfortunately, I

1519
01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:53,079
think that dismantles Sam Hide's like specialty is comedy because

1520
01:28:54,119 --> 01:28:57,920
they can't stick on one like Sam Hi can't bring Harland.

1521
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 2: Into his world, into his like right, he can't do.

1522
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,399
Speaker 20: That because it's just not compatible. He's Harland isn't like.

1523
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,520
He isn't like I Dubs or someone who who is

1524
01:29:10,279 --> 01:29:15,760
willing to willing to follow a single line of thought. Right,

1525
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,119
He's more random, He's all over the place. I personally

1526
01:29:19,119 --> 01:29:22,239
find that really boring. So I don't like that. I

1527
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:27,359
prefer Sam Hide style. But unfortunately Sam Hide, it just

1528
01:29:27,399 --> 01:29:30,680
didn't It just didn't work. And I think the gorilla

1529
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,319
the gorilla thing for me, that the gorilla thing was.

1530
01:29:33,319 --> 01:29:34,199
Speaker 2: The funniest part.

1531
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,159
Speaker 20: But but I can I can see what people are

1532
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:40,680
talking about when they say, you know, he crashed out

1533
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,600
and it and it wasn't good because I think Sam

1534
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,199
was was trying to Sam Sam Hide was a fish

1535
01:29:47,239 --> 01:29:49,840
out of water there. He he had he couldn't do

1536
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,800
his his comedy. What he's known for, what he's comfortable with,

1537
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,720
he couldn't do it, and the moment he was given

1538
01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:58,920
an opportunity to do something like that, right when he

1539
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,760
was given the the permission to make a gorilla's nest, well,

1540
01:30:03,039 --> 01:30:06,479
what he did was he tried to bring bring Harlan

1541
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:07,520
into his domain.

1542
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:08,560
Speaker 2: And that kind of worked.

1543
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:13,079
Speaker 20: I mean, like everyone, everyone was subject to the environment

1544
01:30:13,239 --> 01:30:16,319
Sam Hide created where he was in control at that moment,

1545
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,439
and that I think it was the funniest part. But

1546
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:24,119
obviously I think Sam Hide also went a little overboard,

1547
01:30:24,319 --> 01:30:27,720
and you know, maybe it was a little flustered, and yeah,

1548
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:28,800
that's just that's.

1549
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,199
Speaker 2: How I see that.

1550
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 3: Well, if you watch the and I did watch significant

1551
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:37,680
sections of the Harlan Joe Rogan podcast from a while

1552
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,119
back a year ago, and a lot of people were

1553
01:30:40,119 --> 01:30:42,880
making a big stink of this and fuss about this

1554
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:47,199
because Joe Rogan seemed to not really be getting or

1555
01:30:47,279 --> 01:30:49,840
interested in the stories and the jokes either. It was

1556
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:56,279
very It's another sort of less volatile interaction that was

1557
01:30:56,359 --> 01:30:58,640
kind of similar in certain ways, not that Joe Rogan

1558
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,640
is in any way similar to Hyde, but they were

1559
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,159
having this interaction back and forth, and Harlan kept telling

1560
01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:07,359
these wacky stories and kind of being silly, and Joe

1561
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,399
Rogan was kind of more like I wanted to have

1562
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,159
a conversation. I know that the first time I went

1563
01:31:12,199 --> 01:31:15,119
on Jamie Kennedy's podcast, it was similar because I assumed

1564
01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:18,279
that we would be yucking it up and Jamie would

1565
01:31:18,279 --> 01:31:22,279
have this very serious kind of conspiracy discussion, which is fine,

1566
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,800
but if you if you watch the whole podcast, Jamie's like,

1567
01:31:26,159 --> 01:31:28,880
why is this guy? Damn he's already doing on his vices.

1568
01:31:29,079 --> 01:31:32,479
I want attack at Akin's Fanisey. It's like the whole thing,

1569
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:39,119
and it wasn't bad. It didn't ended up being what yeah,

1570
01:31:39,119 --> 01:31:44,720
we're is a that right? Uh? This guy that ready

1571
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:45,560
down vices?

1572
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,239
Speaker 17: It's like, well, I do impressings all the time, Dude,

1573
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:53,880
I'm gonna I'm gonna personate you don't anyway, So sometimes.

1574
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 3: We do get these clash of personality situation. So I

1575
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,479
think that caller was correct that there there was a

1576
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,800
clash of personalities for sure going on here. And by

1577
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,439
the way, if I recall doesn't Harlan in this episode,

1578
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,000
he tells this story that he.

1579
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 17: Has a gut like a leech or like a what

1580
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:16,960
do you call those worms?

1581
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:20,199
Speaker 3: That eat eat your guts out. I forget to know

1582
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,159
what's the what's the name of the worm that lives

1583
01:32:22,199 --> 01:32:25,520
in your guts? They got tapeworm? Yeah, Like he tells

1584
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,000
the story that he's got a tape worm, but he

1585
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,560
doesn't want to get rid of it because they got

1586
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,880
they get to be friends or something, which is funny.

1587
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,479
But guess what that's actually and it's always sonny in

1588
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,720
Philadelphia episode Frank gets a tapeworm and he doesn't want

1589
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:39,000
to get rid of it. Or is it Charlie Frank

1590
01:32:39,039 --> 01:32:40,720
or Charlie gets a tape worm? It's actually it's a

1591
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,600
really funny idea. But I mean, I'm not saying Harlan

1592
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,279
stole it. I don't know, but I'm just saying, like,

1593
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:51,199
I don't know, comedy is a weird thing. Also, people

1594
01:32:51,239 --> 01:32:52,920
can be in moods too, Like people could be in

1595
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:56,680
a bad mood that day and they're just not feeling it.

1596
01:32:57,199 --> 01:33:04,279
But somebody made a good point. Mike Hunt says Harlan

1597
01:33:04,359 --> 01:33:07,079
could have at least plugged Extreme Peace, And I think

1598
01:33:07,079 --> 01:33:09,640
that's a good argument that there was some real tension

1599
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,079
here because he did bleep out any of the references

1600
01:33:13,119 --> 01:33:19,319
to the new season Yeah, it's a tapeworm named Jerry,

1601
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:26,239
and it's a is it Frank or Charlie that has

1602
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,560
the tapeworm? It's pretty funny. Object full ten dollars, Thank

1603
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,840
you man, Alex adame ten dollars. What up is the

1604
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,479
argument that if Trump is compromised, it would have come out?

1605
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,279
Is that a bad argument? I don't think it's a

1606
01:33:40,279 --> 01:33:43,880
bad argument. Do you think he's compromised. I think there's

1607
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,199
a lot of different possibilities that we just don't know.

1608
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,800
I mean, Trump could have been, for example, working with

1609
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,159
the FBI a long time ago. I mean, I think

1610
01:33:52,199 --> 01:33:58,000
even Alex mentioned this possibility that could have happened a

1611
01:33:58,039 --> 01:34:01,119
long time ago. Trump might not be able to talk

1612
01:34:01,119 --> 01:34:03,880
about certain things because of, you know, gring to work

1613
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,760
with the FBI back when Epstein was first being invested.

1614
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,840
I I'm just saying this is a possibility, have no idea,

1615
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,319
and then maybe Trump maybe other people have pointed out

1616
01:34:13,319 --> 01:34:15,560
that it might not even be about what people think

1617
01:34:16,399 --> 01:34:21,920
it might be, because there's high level financial elites lobbyists

1618
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,560
that are compromised, and that that's a big part of it,

1619
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,399
even above the politicians. So people think, oh, it's the

1620
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,479
politicians now there's a class of people above the politicians

1621
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,560
that might be compromised, and that's the big deal, not

1622
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:38,439
the political class. Matt ten dollars. I bought an ignacious

1623
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:42,560
study Bible. Is that a good choice for a Catholic. Well,

1624
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,439
we're Orthodox Catholics, so we're I'm not going to tell

1625
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,520
you to buy a Roman Catholic study Bible. No, get

1626
01:34:49,840 --> 01:35:00,520
an Orthodox study Bible. That's what I would recommend, ROSSI

1627
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,199
one dollar, Jay. How would you feel about the claim

1628
01:35:03,239 --> 01:35:08,760
that determinism can still be true even though reasoning and

1629
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:14,680
belief are causal processes. Well, then it would no longer

1630
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,640
be knowledge or truth the way that we typically in

1631
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,399
philosophy have talked about knowledge and truth. This would actually

1632
01:35:21,399 --> 01:35:24,760
be a defeater, because to know something would require the

1633
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,439
ability to adjudicate between the true and the false. But

1634
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:30,239
if everything that you believe is literally just a determined effect,

1635
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,800
then you're not actually adjudicating between true and false. So

1636
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,319
there's no value judgments in a deterministic system. So I

1637
01:35:37,319 --> 01:35:43,600
don't think this argument would work. All right, let's see

1638
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:51,239
we've got more calls here, Wired Prometheus.

1639
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,399
Speaker 12: Hello again, thanks a lot for your previous answer. What

1640
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:07,399
are the main points that you would use to criticize

1641
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:11,920
the CTM you with, and is a metaphysical model like

1642
01:36:12,039 --> 01:36:15,199
that reconcilable with Christianity?

1643
01:36:17,079 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 3: Again, if God is a platonic monad or if God

1644
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,600
is a projection of my mind or of the subconscious

1645
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:27,239
or something like that, that's not at all compatible with Christianity.

1646
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:33,039
And also, again I think from an epistemic standpoint, if

1647
01:36:33,039 --> 01:36:38,359
he's a committed classical foundationalist, then all the critiques of foundationalism,

1648
01:36:38,399 --> 01:36:52,479
I think would reply. God's Soldier, Cillia soldier. By the way, guys,

1649
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:52,880
I forgot.

1650
01:36:53,039 --> 01:36:53,159
Speaker 27: Uh.

1651
01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:56,079
Speaker 3: We're gonna close this out here in a little bit.

1652
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,479
We will be back tonight with our buddy, yours, George,

1653
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:04,279
who has a new book coming out, the Errors of

1654
01:37:04,319 --> 01:37:06,800
the Latins. If you guys remember about four years ago

1655
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,359
we had Snack and George on together where we covered

1656
01:37:09,399 --> 01:37:13,039
the forgeries, and George has spent the last four years

1657
01:37:13,399 --> 01:37:17,520
collating and putting together this book, Errors of the Latins,

1658
01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:23,079
kind of detailing and going through the classic papal forgeries.

1659
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:25,720
So we will be doing that interview at nine pm tonight,

1660
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:31,680
so be sure and be ready for that. God's Soldier,

1661
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:32,239
what's up? Man?

1662
01:37:32,279 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 2: Are you going to talk or about Hey, sorry, didn't

1663
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,920
see it, was there, you guys doing it up.

1664
01:37:40,279 --> 01:37:44,319
Speaker 6: So I was raised as a seventh day advenus, and

1665
01:37:44,359 --> 01:37:48,239
I've been looking into Orthodoxy, one.

1666
01:37:48,199 --> 01:37:52,039
Speaker 2: Of the test I guess hiccups. It's trying to wrall the.

1667
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 15: Not chance, just the practice of worshiping on the Sabbath,

1668
01:37:59,359 --> 01:38:03,720
and now we're shipping on the Lord's Day or Sunday.

1669
01:38:04,079 --> 01:38:06,159
I would you reconcile that? Exactly?

1670
01:38:07,399 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 3: Well, there's nothing to reconciled, because the Orthodox Church in

1671
01:38:10,039 --> 01:38:13,960
the Saturday vespers still honors the seventh Day. But as

1672
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,239
the Book of Hebrews says, we are now entered into

1673
01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:20,680
the resurrection Sabbath, which is His resurrection rest. So in

1674
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,840
the New Testament they meet together the first day of

1675
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,279
the week to celebrate the breaking of bread, which is

1676
01:38:25,319 --> 01:38:29,159
the liturgy. And so it's also shows us the superiority

1677
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,079
of the New Covenant to the Judaic Covenant. So we

1678
01:38:32,079 --> 01:38:36,800
are no longer under the Old Testament Judaic rights and rituals.

1679
01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:38,920
We're now in the New Covenant realities.

1680
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,520
Speaker 15: I see, okay, I know I read somewhere that like

1681
01:38:46,079 --> 01:38:49,359
there's the ceremonial Sabbath, right, and then there's I think

1682
01:38:49,399 --> 01:38:54,840
one more for now what it was, it can help

1683
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:55,319
me out there.

1684
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 3: Well, when John says I was in the spirit on

1685
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:02,199
the Lord's Day, right, and then he sees into heaven

1686
01:39:02,279 --> 01:39:07,359
and he sees this liturgical service going on. The Lord's

1687
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:15,880
Day is the first day of the week. So what

1688
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,680
John is seeing is the heavenly liturgy. So that lets

1689
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,520
us know that John is looking up into heaven and

1690
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:23,800
he's seeing this worship that's going on in heaven, which

1691
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,439
is liturgical worship, and that alone should show you that

1692
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:28,960
the seven day adven Is cult is false because they

1693
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,319
don't even have liturgical worship.

1694
01:39:32,039 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, I was gonna say, just from what I remember,

1695
01:39:37,039 --> 01:39:43,279
is a night and Dame difference compared to Orthodoxy. And

1696
01:39:43,319 --> 01:39:46,159
then I guess the first day of the week that

1697
01:39:46,199 --> 01:39:48,159
would be considered Sunday obviously.

1698
01:39:50,279 --> 01:39:52,600
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, No.

1699
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 15: That helps out a lot, just because I've been trying

1700
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:59,319
to just talk more with the family about that, because

1701
01:39:59,319 --> 01:40:01,680
they're all seventh Day in Venice and I'm kind of

1702
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,439
the black sheep, you could see.

1703
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, right, he says I was in the

1704
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,560
spirit on the Lord's Day, and and I know a

1705
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,000
lot of people don't think about it this way, but

1706
01:40:11,039 --> 01:40:13,760
we think that he's actually celebrating the divine liturgy because

1707
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,600
he sees the altar, he sees the endcense. That's all

1708
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,479
liturgical imagery and language, So that lets us know that

1709
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:24,800
it's not talking about the Jewish Sabbath liturgical prepper. What's up.

1710
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 2: On me?

1711
01:40:39,239 --> 01:40:40,520
Speaker 3: Hello? Yeah, what's up?

1712
01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 30: Yeah?

1713
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 41: I was.

1714
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,199
Speaker 30: This isn't a topic I'd normally call in and bother

1715
01:40:46,279 --> 01:40:49,039
you with, but since you have any topic going on,

1716
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:51,920
I just wanted to ask a question to you, or

1717
01:40:52,039 --> 01:40:54,960
really just ask your advice. I'm an Orthodox Christian. I

1718
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,920
live in Spokane, Washington, and I have a parishioner that

1719
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:02,560
goes through our church who was a Spokane police officer

1720
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:07,319
that he's been wrongfully convicted and is sitting in prison

1721
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:11,439
based on getting kind of caught between the defund the

1722
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,720
police that was going on in Washington State and basically

1723
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:18,279
being made an example of and like a quick win

1724
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,720
for them to show that they're like working on corruption

1725
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:25,800
in Spokane. And so there's like all these articles that

1726
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:28,359
have been written about him, how he's been being convicted

1727
01:41:29,399 --> 01:41:33,359
and guilty, and it's like I have all the proof

1728
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:37,439
in front of me that shows that they you know,

1729
01:41:38,199 --> 01:41:43,239
he was perjured against video, evidence was destroyed. They just

1730
01:41:43,279 --> 01:41:46,319
assumed that he was guilty from the get go and

1731
01:41:46,359 --> 01:41:48,840
then just applied this. And I mean, he sits in

1732
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:52,520
prison and it's a life sentence because if he doesn't

1733
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,239
admit to his guilt, which he doesn't intend to lie

1734
01:41:55,359 --> 01:42:00,479
or admit to wrongful charges, he's there for good. And

1735
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:05,119
so I guess I'm just asking for help advice of

1736
01:42:05,399 --> 01:42:07,319
you know, I guess it's just.

1737
01:42:07,279 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 32: A bigger, a bigger conversation.

1738
01:42:09,079 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 30: As far as the corruption in Spokane, as far as

1739
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:16,479
the police goes, and just how this one orthodox Christian

1740
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,560
for my parish has been made an example and sits

1741
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:20,600
in prison innocent.

1742
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 3: Man. That's crazy. I didn't know that. I don't know

1743
01:42:24,039 --> 01:42:29,520
what to say about that. I mean, you're saying that

1744
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,000
it was because of defund the police, and he was

1745
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:33,079
for that or against that.

1746
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:39,319
Speaker 30: Basically, he came to understand. He kind of took the

1747
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,399
job out of naivete thinking he could help, and when

1748
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,560
he got there, it was basically like, no, we're not

1749
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:48,359
here to actually help the public.

1750
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,560
Speaker 2: We're here to like you know.

1751
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 30: Classify the public and and and you know, or make arrest.

1752
01:42:56,039 --> 01:42:59,560
And he wasn't willing to just make pointless arrest, so

1753
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,920
he had it up in issues with the special Investigations

1754
01:43:03,039 --> 01:43:06,960
unit that just wanted him to make like mindless arrest

1755
01:43:07,039 --> 01:43:09,560
and he was just trying to treat people as human

1756
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,560
beings and found that there was no place for that

1757
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,800
on the police force for him at all.

1758
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 2: And at that point, there was you.

1759
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 30: Know, this one person that's made allegations against him as

1760
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,560
a meth addict, and she has multiple allegations against the

1761
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:30,359
police officers. And this other woman thinks she's Jesus, and

1762
01:43:30,399 --> 01:43:34,079
so they have just found this method. They've paid these

1763
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:37,760
two women close to a million dollars in settlements now.

1764
01:43:38,359 --> 01:43:41,760
And like I said, I've all of his appeals have

1765
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:46,399
been exhausted with the exception of one, and he's run

1766
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,920
out of money for lead, like for legal fees. So

1767
01:43:50,279 --> 01:43:53,399
like me and my godson and some of us have

1768
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:57,760
kind of become his like amateur legal team because we helped,

1769
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,720
you know, go through the files and then you know,

1770
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,399
help him to write his appeals and stuff like that.

1771
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,560
Speaker 3: I mean, is this like a blue area, I'm assuming.

1772
01:44:08,079 --> 01:44:09,119
Speaker 32: What are you in a blue area?

1773
01:44:10,199 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 3: Democrat?

1774
01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 30: Well, we're eastern Washington, but Spokane is somewhat liberal within itself,

1775
01:44:20,399 --> 01:44:23,840
so it's kind of like we're two two mentalities clash

1776
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:28,520
of like conservative eastern Washington close to Idaho. I mean,

1777
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,359
if he was a comp in Idaho, this would have

1778
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:34,399
never happened because they didn't have this opposition to police.

1779
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:41,439
But just him being in Washington and essentially trying to

1780
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,199
treat people like human beings and there was just no

1781
01:44:44,359 --> 01:44:47,319
place for that on the police force. And he just

1782
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:50,920
ended up developing enemies because he just wasn't willing to

1783
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,319
play ball the way they.

1784
01:44:52,199 --> 01:44:53,359
Speaker 2: Wanted him to play ball.

1785
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,039
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, man, I don't like these kind of local

1786
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,640
clashes with corrupt leaders. I don't know what to tell you.

1787
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,079
I mean, have like a website or something you want

1788
01:45:02,119 --> 01:45:05,880
to push out and promote and get get people look, you.

1789
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 30: Know, and for unfortunately right now I don't. His name

1790
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:13,880
is Nathan Nash. If anybody wants to pray for him,

1791
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,920
I've actually been in like like talking to a couple

1792
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,039
other people about possibly going on their podcast and two more.

1793
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:20,359
Speaker 2: Things like this.

1794
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could like up hit up somebody like Robert Barnes.

1795
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,199
I know he takes a lot of these kind of cases,

1796
01:45:25,279 --> 01:45:27,760
but Uh, yeah, you know, if you get a website

1797
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,760
up or something like that, feel free to call back

1798
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:34,560
in Max Payin, what's up? Sorry that that happened. I

1799
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,600
just don't know what. I don't know anything about. I've

1800
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,680
never been to Washington. They'rever been even close to Washington.

1801
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:40,039
What's up?

1802
01:45:40,079 --> 01:45:40,239
Speaker 2: Man?

1803
01:45:43,039 --> 01:45:44,640
Speaker 3: I would just stay out of these big cities. Man,

1804
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:54,840
they're all corrupt. What up? Dog? I'm you? Is the internet?

1805
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,880
Just Max Mackie Payne. Do you want to talk or not?

1806
01:46:03,119 --> 01:46:12,920
Jord On What's up? Yep? Yeah?

1807
01:46:13,159 --> 01:46:15,319
Speaker 2: Bring it back to the Sam hyping again. But like

1808
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,119
I guess that the last well is like.

1809
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 35: Come off school, but I think it's like so much

1810
01:46:20,279 --> 01:46:24,079
more straightforward than that. Like in the beginning of the podcast,

1811
01:46:24,359 --> 01:46:26,600
Sam tries to like bring some of his like material

1812
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:28,880
and content that he like likes to talk about and

1813
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,239
then cuts it off, like as the Filipino Talk right,

1814
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:33,439
they do the whole podcast from he set them right

1815
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,600
Sam once again because he doesn't want to get cut off.

1816
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,560
What he says, let's avoid the jew question, right, and

1817
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,439
he tries to go into other areas right, Harvin brings

1818
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:44,479
it back up, cuts him off again, doesn't allow him

1819
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,319
to go anywhere, and then he just goes down this

1820
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,079
weird line of like emasculating questioning.

1821
01:46:49,119 --> 01:46:52,039
Speaker 3: Right mmmm, so he asked.

1822
01:46:52,079 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 35: He tries to force the Filipino dude to tongue punch

1823
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:57,439
a fake salmon piece, and Sam's eb.

1824
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:58,319
Speaker 2: And We're like, don't do that.

1825
01:46:59,039 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 3: Well I didn't hear that. Go back and we can

1826
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,399
barely hear you. It's bad internet today. So he tries

1827
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,039
to what the Filipino did.

1828
01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:15,319
Speaker 35: Say that again, he tries to make the Filipino dude like,

1829
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,439
do ton of lingus on his line of pushin of

1830
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:18,560
lingus on a salmon piece.

1831
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I got you, I gotcha.

1832
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,399
Speaker 2: Sam's immediately like, no, don't do that on a what

1833
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:25,119
what was it?

1834
01:47:25,279 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 35: What was it?

1835
01:47:26,279 --> 01:47:27,479
Speaker 2: A fake piece of salmon?

1836
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:29,399
Speaker 3: Like fake oh salmon?

1837
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:33,520
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and so Hide.

1838
01:47:33,319 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 35: Goes like, don't do that, don't do that, and he

1839
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:36,720
continu used to push it.

1840
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 2: Sam gets over it. They move on.

1841
01:47:39,239 --> 01:47:42,159
Speaker 35: Then he goes into like the priest thing, and if

1842
01:47:42,199 --> 01:47:45,000
you watch PGL, Sam's not like offended by the priest

1843
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,960
think he just hates that like weak, low tier like

1844
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:48,800
super used shot comedy.

1845
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 3: Right, oh gotcha, okay, But.

1846
01:47:52,039 --> 01:47:54,319
Speaker 35: Then he goes right back to the emasculation, and he

1847
01:47:54,399 --> 01:47:56,600
looks Sam in the face and goes, have you been raped?

1848
01:47:57,359 --> 01:47:57,399
Speaker 2: Like?

1849
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:01,039
Speaker 35: So it's this weird thing of the mascul And then

1850
01:48:01,079 --> 01:48:02,720
you get into the gorilla thing.

1851
01:48:03,039 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 2: What does Sam do?

1852
01:48:04,159 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 35: Like the other guy said, he gets into his domain,

1853
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:07,760
he flips it. But then he grabs him and goes

1854
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:09,880
to take him into the nets. So he's like, you're

1855
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:13,159
gonna do this weird and masculation thing. Okay, I'll buy

1856
01:48:13,279 --> 01:48:15,439
into the one joke you've allowed me to get into, but.

1857
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna feel this amount.

1858
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Speaker 3: And you think the remember grape right, excuse the word great.

1859
01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:22,479
You think the great thing that look the grape was

1860
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:26,640
intended to uh and masculate Sam. That's why I brought

1861
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:26,920
that up.

1862
01:48:27,039 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 2: I think I think the whole thing, after the whole

1863
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:30,640
joke cut off thing.

1864
01:48:31,279 --> 01:48:33,239
Speaker 35: What other reason would you pull a pizza like out

1865
01:48:33,279 --> 01:48:36,000
of nowhere, pull it up like something out and ask

1866
01:48:36,079 --> 01:48:38,159
another like a man on camera.

1867
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:39,560
Speaker 2: To lick it?

1868
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I see what you're saying.

1869
01:48:45,119 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 35: And then Sam, when Sam goes to the grillathic, he

1870
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,680
grabs him and pulls him into the nest.

1871
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1872
01:48:51,079 --> 01:48:53,399
Speaker 35: I think that was just Sam going like, if you're

1873
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:55,840
gonna like I've tried and tried and restarted and trying

1874
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,960
to make jokes, Okay, this is one one joke. I'm

1875
01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:58,479
gonna take.

1876
01:48:58,439 --> 01:48:59,159
Speaker 2: Full control of it.

1877
01:48:59,600 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 3: Okay.

1878
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,520
Speaker 2: I don't. I think that's all. I think it was

1879
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:02,079
that simple.

1880
01:49:02,119 --> 01:49:02,359
Speaker 26: I don't.

1881
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 35: I don't like hard Like if you look through the comments,

1882
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:07,560
like Harland is like it's kind of bipolar the comments

1883
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,399
he's liking, Like he's liking some of the ones that's say,

1884
01:49:09,399 --> 01:49:11,439
like it's squad and bad, but there's like a wave

1885
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,279
it's like that he's liking saying Harland overcame or dominated,

1886
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,359
like saying it's like a really weird thing, like why

1887
01:49:18,359 --> 01:49:20,600
would you bring some of your podcasts to like dominate him,

1888
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:22,640
Like Harlan's never done that any other podcasts.

1889
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 2: Just a weird, porky weirdness.

1890
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Speaker 35: But this whole like vibe was weird because I've watched

1891
01:49:27,119 --> 01:49:28,159
a lot of Harland's podcasts.

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01:49:28,359 --> 01:49:30,720
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, see, I've not seen any of his podcasts

1893
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,000
so so that you're saying the vibe in the in

1894
01:49:34,119 --> 01:49:36,319
his podcast is way different for everybody else.

1895
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,560
Speaker 35: It's not like extremely different, but he'll play along like

1896
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:43,520
he can stick on a topic and like make weird

1897
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:45,479
and do his porky thing and go along. But from

1898
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,319
the very beginning of the podcast, it was super weird.

1899
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Doesn't Charleton frame?

1900
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, why did he do that?

1901
01:49:51,159 --> 01:49:51,199
Speaker 2: What?

1902
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 3: I thought, maybe they're just all doing that to be funny,

1903
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:57,239
but like, why did he stick Charles out of frame?

1904
01:49:59,039 --> 01:50:01,039
Speaker 35: It seemed like a whole we weird like domination thing

1905
01:50:01,079 --> 01:50:03,039
and the comments that they're the probe that the YouTube

1906
01:50:03,079 --> 01:50:06,560
channel is liking. It definitely seems like that because it's

1907
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,640
all the comments he's like me to look through on

1908
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,880
the YouTube. It's all them like his weird little like

1909
01:50:11,159 --> 01:50:15,239
the weird atheist people going like appreciated, he spoiled, has

1910
01:50:15,279 --> 01:50:18,159
spoiled you got to fit. In a pre show, Carland

1911
01:50:18,159 --> 01:50:19,800
totally trolled him and dominating.

1912
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:21,359
Speaker 28: Comments.

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01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 2: It's a really weird vibe.

1914
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Speaker 35: Like even with macad Evans, Harland was super cool with him.

1915
01:50:26,159 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, I.

1916
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,600
Speaker 35: Think made jokes on topics and stuff. They the first

1917
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,960
fifteen minutes podcast. They couldn't like stake on a single thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah at all.

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01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's all I had to say. I didnther

1920
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think it's super strange?

1921
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Speaker 3: No, those are interesting. Yeah, I'm really enjoying everybody's takes

1922
01:50:40,239 --> 01:50:43,159
on this. The more I hear everybody else's takes, the

1923
01:50:43,239 --> 01:50:45,800
more I'm like, I don't even know what's going on, squirrel,

1924
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:51,479
what's up? People are overthinking this? I do agree that

1925
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:55,760
with that, Like I just thought this was like just goober, goofy,

1926
01:50:56,159 --> 01:50:57,159
let's create a.

1927
01:50:57,239 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 17: Spectacle, and like now the whole inner nets like going wow,

1928
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,720
and you're nobody's even talking about now. They are talking

1929
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:05,079
about this.

1930
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Speaker 3: In fact, the U the protestinga clip has like what's up, squirrel? Yeah, man,

1931
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I just a little comment.

1932
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Speaker 37: And I don't know if it's had to do with

1933
01:51:21,079 --> 01:51:23,880
your new camera or something along the line. But notice

1934
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,520
for the last maybe two weeks or so, your stream

1935
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:31,520
is constantly reloading, and I don't get that on anybody

1936
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:32,760
else's channel.

1937
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,119
Speaker 6: So it's not my internet, but I watch YouTube all

1938
01:51:36,199 --> 01:51:38,520
day long at work, and yours.

1939
01:51:38,239 --> 01:51:41,359
Speaker 37: In particular is super tough to watch because it's constantly

1940
01:51:41,399 --> 01:51:42,479
stopping and reloading.

1941
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,800
Speaker 17: Anybody in the chat, tell me if you're having the

1942
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:49,520
same problem, and we'll try to see what's going on

1943
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:50,680
and address that.

1944
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,199
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you mean. I'm reloading because like

1945
01:51:53,399 --> 01:51:56,640
you have to reload your on your side.

1946
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Speaker 1: And like.

1947
01:52:00,239 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 3: That might be at your work or something, or your computer,

1948
01:52:03,319 --> 01:52:08,199
because when I look at the status on both YouTube

1949
01:52:08,279 --> 01:52:13,359
and on stream labs, it's a straight up perfect quality

1950
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:20,720
consistent seven thousand kb kilvis per second, sixty frames per second.

1951
01:52:21,199 --> 01:52:24,840
Everything should be top sphere. If I look at stream

1952
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:33,960
Health on YouTube, everybody in the chat is saying that

1953
01:52:34,199 --> 01:52:36,199
this guy's a boomer. Everything works fine. Yeah, I mean

1954
01:52:36,399 --> 01:52:41,680
I'm getting I think it's your work computer because stream

1955
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,800
health has been excellent and perfect on both sides YouTube

1956
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:49,840
and obs for the last several hours. Where was this

1957
01:52:50,199 --> 01:52:51,159
comment about?

1958
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Speaker 24: No?

1959
01:52:55,159 --> 01:53:08,159
Speaker 3: Where is it a h No, it wasn't protesting. It

1960
01:53:08,319 --> 01:53:27,960
was af news. So it's already almost to a million

1961
01:53:28,079 --> 01:53:35,560
views or impressions over here on Twitter. But it's a

1962
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:40,439
little bit of a different vibe over here, like the

1963
01:53:42,000 --> 01:54:08,920
comments are less imbalanced anyway. Where you talking about this,

1964
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because in order to have an audience, you have to

1965
01:54:12,399 --> 01:54:14,159
talk about what everyone's talking about. I don't know if

1966
01:54:14,159 --> 01:54:16,239
you've figured out the internet yet, but that's how it works.

1967
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:18,079
Tyl Hasse, you want to try again?

1968
01:54:24,399 --> 01:54:24,560
Speaker 29: Jay?

1969
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 3: You heard me now? Yeah?

1970
01:54:27,079 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 39: Okay, good, excellent? Sorry driving to your Pennsylvania all these

1971
01:54:31,079 --> 01:54:34,520
hills with jacking up the service at a raid storm.

1972
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:35,079
Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.

1973
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 39: I wanted to ask you, what are your thoughts if

1974
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,319
any John MacArthur at his recent passage.

1975
01:54:43,039 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 3: I honestly I don't know anything about it. I never

1976
01:54:46,199 --> 01:54:50,119
followed John MacArthur, was never interested in him, never even

1977
01:54:50,159 --> 01:54:52,000
read any of his stuff. Don't know anything. I mean,

1978
01:54:52,039 --> 01:54:54,359
I know who he is, but I've never followed him.

1979
01:54:55,359 --> 01:54:57,079
Speaker 39: Okay, fair enough, I had really quick If I may

1980
01:54:57,119 --> 01:55:00,000
ask something maybe kind of related but also kind of

1981
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:03,000
to topic use, I haven't heard you talk about this

1982
01:55:03,039 --> 01:55:05,840
topic that much. I've heard top Orthodox bring it up

1983
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:07,560
here there. I know it's not a dog ball as

1984
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:09,359
far as I know, But what do you What do

1985
01:55:09,399 --> 01:55:11,199
you think of the toll house concept?

1986
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? I would just say look at father Sara from

1987
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:19,039
Roses book Life of the Soul after Death, and I

1988
01:55:19,119 --> 01:55:35,880
pretty much agree with that. Coop. What's up? Coop? Yo?

1989
01:55:36,239 --> 01:55:36,439
Speaker 2: Jay?

1990
01:55:37,199 --> 01:55:41,039
Speaker 11: I am very much tapped in with your film critique

1991
01:55:41,079 --> 01:55:42,960
and kind of film study side.

1992
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:43,319
Speaker 3: Of your work.

1993
01:55:43,439 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if you keep a notepad of

1994
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,720
recommendations I have like I do, Quit.

1995
01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:51,399
Speaker 11: I have a media that was just Option b A

1996
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:54,560
twenty four that is like a culmination of a lot

1997
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:55,720
of your studies.

1998
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 2: I would say, what I think?

1999
01:55:58,520 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 3: Are you being seriously joking?

2000
01:56:00,439 --> 01:56:00,479
Speaker 2: No?

2001
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 39: I mean like topic wise, like the movie topics hit

2002
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,840
a ton of topics that you talk about.

2003
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well wait, you're saying you have a screenplay that

2004
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:12,960
you did that you're giving to a twenty four about

2005
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:13,960
stuff that I talked about.

2006
01:56:15,039 --> 01:56:18,119
Speaker 2: What do you mean that they've optioned one that someone

2007
01:56:18,199 --> 01:56:18,720
else made?

2008
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:19,079
Speaker 3: Oh?

2009
01:56:19,399 --> 01:56:23,319
Speaker 2: And just reading about this media, it is like Jay

2010
01:56:23,399 --> 01:56:24,479
Dyer has to watch.

2011
01:56:24,279 --> 01:56:25,079
Speaker 39: This when it comes up.

2012
01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:26,159
Speaker 3: Okay, what is it?

2013
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 2: I think it'll be called death stranding?

2014
01:56:30,039 --> 01:56:33,199
Speaker 3: Is that after the video game? Yes, okay, that's.

2015
01:56:33,119 --> 01:56:36,079
Speaker 11: Going to be a film, and they have the opportunity

2016
01:56:36,159 --> 01:56:40,479
to really push a lot of agendas through this media.

2017
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,359
Speaker 3: Now, No, that's great. I always appreciate those recommendations. Usually

2018
01:56:44,399 --> 01:56:47,800
the best off you know, movie wise comes from audience recommendations.

2019
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:51,199
Books too. By the way, so appreciate that. JR. What's up? Man?

2020
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,800
Is this the same JR? Adams?

2021
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 17: By the way, I didn't mean to boot you earlier. John,

2022
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:58,159
I thought you were done. Feel free to talk as

2023
01:56:58,199 --> 01:56:58,720
long as you want.

2024
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want me talking.

2025
01:57:03,079 --> 01:57:06,079
Speaker 3: You're trying to stifle me from being able to Okay,

2026
01:57:06,079 --> 01:57:08,159
I'm trying to censor you. Fine, you're gonna expose me.

2027
01:57:08,239 --> 01:57:10,960
I don't want to be exposed. I'm fragile. I'm licking

2028
01:57:11,079 --> 01:57:12,880
the testicles of Alex Jonson.

2029
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 24: Sam Height, mean it man on the internet who's just

2030
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:17,479
butt snipping Sam get popular.

2031
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:22,279
Speaker 3: Yes, feel free to expose me.

2032
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:26,039
Speaker 24: I was actually I was actually just gonna point out

2033
01:57:26,079 --> 01:57:29,279
real quick that tapeworm joke is like an old Three

2034
01:57:29,359 --> 01:57:34,439
Stooges joke from I didn't know that. Yeah, So it's

2035
01:57:34,479 --> 01:57:37,119
not that anybody's gonna know who the Three Stooges are

2036
01:57:37,159 --> 01:57:39,039
if they don't even know who Michael McDonald is.

2037
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 2: He called me, all right, I just want to point

2038
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:49,079
that out.

2039
01:57:50,159 --> 01:57:51,039
Speaker 29: What a more.

2040
01:57:51,159 --> 01:57:53,399
Speaker 3: Believes y'are just.

2041
01:57:55,199 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 17: The worst man, David Murdock, aren't five dollars prayers for Alaska.

2042
01:58:08,079 --> 01:58:10,319
There was just a giant seven point through earthquake.

2043
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 3: It is potentially a mashed cow'sly event. Woe, dude, that's crazy.

2044
01:58:14,119 --> 01:58:18,720
Is this is this real tsunami? I'm not gonna make

2045
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,159
any jokes if that's real, because that would not be appropriate.

2046
01:58:21,239 --> 01:58:21,920
Speaker 35: Is that this.

2047
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:29,359
Speaker 3: Was it in the water off the off of the

2048
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:37,279
So the earthquake was in the water and it might

2049
01:58:37,439 --> 01:58:47,680
cause us to Sam me, well, we got a lot

2050
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:50,840
of Orthodox people up there, so uh, pray for the

2051
01:58:51,279 --> 01:58:56,880
Orthodox up there, Lord have mercy. Mike count five dollars.

2052
01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:00,119
Sam was not going to get a plug for or

2053
01:59:00,399 --> 01:59:03,319
MD either way. I think he knew that, and he

2054
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:07,279
just made the interview be something viral. If he did

2055
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:11,920
nothing there would have gotten any exposure. That's another angle too. Yeah,

2056
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:14,960
maybe Sam was just aware of the fact that, like,

2057
01:59:17,039 --> 01:59:20,119
you know, Harland's podcast gets like twenty thirty that gets

2058
01:59:20,159 --> 01:59:21,960
like as many views as we get on her live stream.

2059
01:59:22,039 --> 01:59:27,479
So maybe he, you know, felt like, create a spectacle,

2060
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:32,840
make it go viral, something like that. Elias became a member.

2061
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:36,520
What's that dog? Elias says for five dollars, we need

2062
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:40,439
to relax. People need to relax. We need to let

2063
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:44,640
Sam hide and Harland explain the situation. That'll be interesting

2064
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:56,319
to see what they say about it. Mike three says,

2065
01:59:56,359 --> 01:59:59,680
for ten dollars, this is the stris End effect. Sam

2066
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:04,560
Hid remains undefeated. That's also an interesting angle. You know,

2067
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:07,359
we're kind of in this age where rage baiting is

2068
02:00:07,439 --> 02:00:11,479
the rage, and you think that a thing happens and

2069
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:13,560
oh this is the end of so and so not

2070
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:15,399
that anybody thinks this is the end of Sam High,

2071
02:00:15,439 --> 02:00:17,560
but you know, people think, oh, this is going to

2072
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:20,159
be the end of Dean Withers or you know this,

2073
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:23,720
and it's like, oh, this is the end of Trent Doherty. No, No,

2074
02:00:24,039 --> 02:00:26,840
he'll probably come back as like the top Catholic apologist.

2075
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:30,319
I mean, like, things do not work the way that

2076
02:00:30,439 --> 02:00:37,600
you think logically in terms of media. It's like Sam

2077
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:40,800
Hyde had this joke too. He was talking about Hawk

2078
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:43,479
Tua and people are like, oh, Hawk two is dead,

2079
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,880
and Sam's like, no, she's just getting started. She'll come

2080
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:49,479
back even stronger after her crypto scamp. It's like, yeah, exactly,

2081
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:53,640
that's the way. That's the way it really works. Where

2082
02:00:53,640 --> 02:01:01,720
are we at here? Mystical ape.

2083
02:01:05,199 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 2: Was man has a bow?

2084
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 3: Mystical eight? What's up?

2085
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:10,159
Speaker 37: Dog?

2086
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 2: Jud Hello? Hello? How are you? Uh?

2087
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:20,359
Speaker 3: We got a funny man what's on your mind?

2088
02:01:21,239 --> 02:01:25,000
Speaker 2: Also, and my bros are chilling in my lip shop and.

2089
02:01:25,119 --> 02:01:30,000
Speaker 25: We were thinking if then bla blah lah, so why

2090
02:01:30,119 --> 02:01:32,760
not the mohammed you hut exactly.

2091
02:01:33,119 --> 02:01:36,119
Speaker 3: Yes, this is the kind of joke call that I

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love and appreciate, and I'm not joking being serious. I

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actually like a fake Muslim call is actually pretty good,

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Devin Holt. What's up? By the way, I was joking

2095
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a while back about buying hawk to a coin. Obviously

2096
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I was not gonna do that, And then did you

2097
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notice that I think it did recently, Pump. I mean

2098
02:01:56,399 --> 02:01:58,279
that's the funny thing about cryptos, Like you think these

2099
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like obvious rug pull scam cryptos are dead, and then

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like out of nowhere, one day, Oh, hawk Tua coin

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is up today. What's up?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,399
Speaker 3: We live in such a weird world that fart coin

2104
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has like a multi billion dollar valuation, right, a billion

2105
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:23,720
dollar evaluation? And what hawk Tua is it? Back?

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02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 8: Up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: Look at that in three months this stupid ass rug

2110
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:38,520
pull coin has actually gone up. That's amazing. By the way,

2111
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I'm not at all promoting the stupid You gotta be

2112
02:02:40,479 --> 02:02:46,479
a total dumb dumb to buy this stupid thing. What's up, man, yo?

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Speaker 24: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 3: Uh huh okay.

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Speaker 40: I was gonna ask you about when you think of

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Robert Eggers and specifically Nosparato.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of his films. Like obviously I watched.

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Speaker 40: Your video about the Witch and how it got like

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promoted by like some Satanic group.

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Speaker 2: That was strange.

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02:03:11,239 --> 02:03:11,479
Speaker 28: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like Nusrato either. That was gross. I thought

2123
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it was like pro uh you know, the woman rides

2124
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:21,399
the beast type stuff. I thought that was very Krollian.

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That was my take on it.

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Speaker 40: M Yeah, because I mean, obviously, I mean I remember

2127
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watching it and you know, he goes to the Orthodox

2128
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:32,800
Church and I you know, soy faced at the screen.

2129
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:37,239
But other than that, the movie was pretty demonic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that in the book it's kind of

2131
02:03:42,119 --> 02:03:43,399
that way, or in the in the Yeah, in the

2132
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book it's kind of it would be Orthodox Church.

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02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:50,479
Speaker 40: Yeah, it can't it can't not be demonic obviously because

2134
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about Dracula.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 34: I enjoy that.

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Speaker 40: Guy's films as being filmed.

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Speaker 3: But I've liked, I've only liked. I mean, there's elements

2139
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:04,720
of The Witch that I liked, elements that I didn't like.

2140
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I thought the Northman was pretty good.

2141
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Speaker 2: The rest of them, the Norseman was probably the best.

2142
02:04:09,279 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the rest of them I don't care for. I

2143
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:14,760
didn't like Lighthouse was super gay. We did a breakdown

2144
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:18,800
of that, and I.

2145
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Speaker 40: Mean, I don't know if you heard, uh, I mean

2146
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:25,640
you probably did hear about the news of the suicide bombing.

2147
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:28,039
I think it was like two weeks ago in the Syria.

2148
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Speaker 3: I heard that. I heard that, Yes, the Orthodox Church,

2149
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:37,119
I did hear that, yes, and then today Syria was

2150
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getting I think attacked by Israel, right Tranquil Panther, Yes,

2151
02:04:49,039 --> 02:04:55,119
that's correct. The Noserato movie Exaggerate exaggerated the esoteric stuff

2152
02:04:55,199 --> 02:04:58,079
for sure, because it's not actually that occultic in the book.

2153
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:06,800
But Aggers definitely does put the you know, legit Sigils

2154
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:08,880
and Crowley and stuff in his movies, and that's kind

2155
02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:11,079
of what we were That's what we were pointing out

2156
02:05:11,079 --> 02:05:13,239
at the very beginning when we did the Witch analysis.

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02:05:13,279 --> 02:05:17,720
What's up, man, I'm starting to get a headache that

2158
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:20,640
one ginger doesn't carry me. What's up?

2159
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:22,479
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 41: I was really enjoying the conversation earlier about like authenticity

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02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:30,920
and music and AI. Actually kind of an interesting thought

2162
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:33,000
that I've been thinking about for a while, redaring that

2163
02:05:33,079 --> 02:05:36,319
maybe just wanting to get your thoughts on AI in general.

2164
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So I was thinking, you know, what would I do

2165
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if I was a kind of evil record executive and

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I want to set to pump out as many vehicles

2167
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:50,399
for getting money and attention as possible. I think you're

2168
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absolutely right that no one's going to want to listen

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to music that they know isn't authentic.

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Speaker 2: But I think they're going to start hiding.

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02:05:58,359 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 41: The fact that they're using AI and just instead of

2172
02:06:01,479 --> 02:06:04,319
producers and ghostwriters in the background, is just all going

2173
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to be AI ghost written. And you know what I

2174
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would do if I was one of these executives is

2175
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I would just find some up and coming person on

2176
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TikTok and I would pay them to use their voice

2177
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:18,239
to train us singing models and then have like do

2178
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one hundred of these and then just do market research

2179
02:06:21,039 --> 02:06:25,279
on SoundCloud to see which one will hit the artist demographically.

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Speaker 2: And then pump them up.

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02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 3: Oh that's a really good Yeah, they should hire you

2182
02:06:29,159 --> 02:06:31,760
to run their scams for them, Tranquil Panther, because that

2183
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:34,399
sounds like literally what they would do. Josh, what's up

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what's up?

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Speaker 28: Josh?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I gotta I gotta head out. Thanks for having

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02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:24,439
me on, Jake Good Topics.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:27,720
Speaker 3: Thanks, what's up, Josh?

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02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 2: Hey?

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02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:33,239
Speaker 42: I wanted to ask what you thought about hypernormalization and

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02:07:33,399 --> 02:07:36,479
the kind of everything they see in the news, Like

2207
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:42,039
the Epstein stuff is specifically designed to insense people, and

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02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:46,399
like you know, it's all kind of a distraction.

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Speaker 3: Uh, in a way that's absolutely correct. In fact, we

2210
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used to do old afternoon commutes with John Adams and

2211
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:55,880
Chris John that just called in a minute ago, where

2212
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,159
we talked about how a lot of this stuff getting

2213
02:07:58,199 --> 02:08:03,239
out is actually to desensitize people to these degenerate things,

2214
02:08:03,319 --> 02:08:06,920
and so that's a huge part of social engineering. I

2215
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:09,920
would say that there's probably a big, big element that's

2216
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:19,520
going on there. Inn El Kasmin two pounds. What is

2217
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:23,840
your opinion about the Dutch? Are you talking about the

2218
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:27,560
John Hughes movie Dutch, which is actually pretty funny. I

2219
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:33,279
don't know what the Dutch is anyway, Guys, be sure

2220
02:08:33,319 --> 02:08:35,880
and hit like and share, and also you can get

2221
02:08:36,079 --> 02:08:41,520
the esoteric Hollywood previous installments at Jay's Analysis one and two.

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Speaker 17: Be aware that it will be a few weeks out now.

2223
02:08:45,239 --> 02:08:48,720
I'm having to rewrite some stuff on part three, but

2224
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:49,920
you will get your copies.

2225
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:55,520
Speaker 3: Don't worry. I will be speaking at the Ludlow Conference.

2226
02:09:06,119 --> 02:09:14,600
You can get your tickets here. Yeah, this one. Oh,

2227
02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:25,680
this goes to Clark Carlton. This one Stafford, Virginia, September sixth,

2228
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:27,479
So you can get your tickets there if you want

2229
02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:36,399
to come to that. I feel like I'm forgetting something

2230
02:09:36,439 --> 02:09:40,880
else that I was supposed to talk about. Oh, we'll

2231
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:44,640
be back tonight with George on the history of the

2232
02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:48,840
forgeries and his new book Errors of the Latins. So

2233
02:09:49,039 --> 02:09:52,159
come back for that tonight at nine pm. Thank you

2234
02:09:52,239 --> 02:09:54,399
guys for calling in a lot of fun today, A

2235
02:09:54,439 --> 02:09:56,119
little bit of a different stream. I wanted to kind

2236
02:09:56,159 --> 02:09:57,600
of mix it up, see what we got if we

2237
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:03,439
mixed in calls on any topic versus just the theology topic.

2238
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:06,319
So we'll see how that goes. If you wouldn't like

2239
02:10:06,399 --> 02:10:10,680
and share and otherwise, we'll see you guys soon