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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It is time for full court press.

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It's mid major Thursday, Rob, youino, it's all mid majors.

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Speaker 2: They didn't even try to that.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't even sneak in a power conference game tonight.

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It's all mid major games. I ruined the parlay yesterday.

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I'm kind of like a little bit of stupidity on

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my part. I probably should have just put the Marshall

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money line for the parlay. I feel like I always

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do that. Of course, the night I don't do that,

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we get hooked. I had Marshall minus two and a half.

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They come all the way back to win by two,

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so we lose the parlay. Your team total gets over

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pretty easily.

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Speaker 2: In the end.

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Speaker 1: It was a whole bunch of points, as we expected

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in Texas A and m Missouri.

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Speaker 2: I had one play last night for clients.

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Speaker 1: Sadly, my five percent play fell short with Ole miss

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plus seven and a half for fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: Rob, I thought, I thought I was looked. I felt good.

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Speaker 1: Alabama came out very, very flat, but I kind of

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had a bad feeling when they closed the first half

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on a run, and of course the second half was

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all Alabama, so dropped one. There, we'll get it back today.

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Aside from me messing up the parlay, how was your Wednesday?

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Speaker 3: Wednesday was pretty good. It was two and one. I

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thought I was headed for three and oh. To tell

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you the truth, I had the A and M team

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total over. I also had Yukon team total over. Surprising

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to me Adam that was listed at seventy seven and

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a half against Butler, who everybody seems to get eighty against.

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Speaker 4: Yukon did the same.

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Speaker 3: They got eighty. So that was two good ones. And

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then the third one where I thought I was in

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great shape, Tennessee over seventy six and a half with

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sixty three and over ten minutes left to go in

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the game. I'm like, oh, this is great. We need

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fourteen points in ten and a half minutes, and Tennessee

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proceeded to score ten points for the remainder of the

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game ten and a half minutes ten points hit. The

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brakes stalled out on me, so it didn't become a

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three and oh, it became a two and one, which

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is still fine.

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Speaker 4: We'll take NBA happened to be really good last night,

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five and two, so it was a nice night overall.

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But yeah, the college college hoop rolls on another winning night.

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Speaker 1: The college hoop rolls on. That's what we're gonna do today, Rob.

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I know it's not like the big national TV game,

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but you're a Belmont bruin, You're a Belmont guy, and

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this is a huge game in the Missouri Valley. So

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that's what I want to start off with today, Curb

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Event Center, nine pm. Northern Iowa is suddenly healthy and

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they suddenly look like Northern Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Believe they've won four or five.

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Speaker 1: They hit the road to take on what I think

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we're we've sort of both settled on as the team

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to be in the in the Missouri Valley. This year,

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Belmont has looked awesome and this should be a should

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be a solid atmosphere at Curb someplace you've been probably

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this is rare, Rob, you've been to Curb Events Center.

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Speaker 2: I have not.

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Speaker 1: That is I still got to get down there. But

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how are you seeing this one for Belmont? What do

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you think it's going to be like tonight? And do

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you think they cover what maybe is a little bit

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bigger of a number than people might have expected.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing like seeing bruise or the brew and

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come down a bungee cort at center court.

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Speaker 4: From the rafters for a Belmont game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is interesting, Adam, because Belmont did beat Northern

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Iowa rather handi the first time around seventy eight sixty five.

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Interesting that that game was played exactly the way Ben Jacobson,

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head coach of Northern Iowa, wanted to be, played a

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fifty eight possession game, and yet in a fifty eight

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possession game, Belmont almost got eighty.

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Speaker 4: They got seventy eight, one.

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Speaker 3: Point three to three points per possession in that game.

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Outstanding number four Belmont. You mentioned what I think maybe

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the key ingredient right off the top, though, when you

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said Northern Iowa finally healthy.

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Speaker 4: They played that game without Tristan Smith.

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Speaker 3: How about their record? They played eight games, he was

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out for eight games with a hip injury. They went

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two and six in those eight games. Other games that

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he's been involved in, every game that he's been involved in,

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they're thirteen and three, and they beat some decent mid

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major non conference along the way as well, teams that

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we consider to be good teams or played.

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Speaker 4: Them extremely tough.

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Speaker 3: So Northern Iowa with Tristan Smith is a big deal.

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Ben Jacobson refers to him as their defensive anchor. Northern

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Iowa kind of has a group they rotate, maybe eight

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or nine, but that group of six that played the

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bulk of the minutes, he being one of them leading

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rebounder or at least tied for being leading rebound around

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the team does a lot of the stuff that you know,

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they call it dirty work in basketball, but he does

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a lot of that. And for Belmont to get seventy

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eight the first time without his presence on the defensive end,

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we'll see how that goes this time. Even though this

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was at oh for Belmont. In that first game, the

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two main guys for Northern Iowa Leon Leon Bond, excuse me,

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Trey Campbell.

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Speaker 4: They shot Lousey from three three of fifteen from.

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Speaker 3: Three, and those are the two guys that launched the

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most for Northern Iowa.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see if they can correct that. On the road.

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Speaker 3: Belmont's been a pretty good defensive team all season long.

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For Belmont, the home numbers aren't really what you would

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think they would be because Belmont is such a good

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team and basically plays good at home. There's six and

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one straight up at home. Nothing wrong with that in

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the Missouri Valley. But the points spread record isn't great.

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Four and three against the spread at this particular price

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of minus five, they're four and three against the spread.

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The totals in their games at home inside the conference

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are five.

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Speaker 4: And two to the over.

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Speaker 3: Their team total five and two to the over, and

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the lowest amount of points that they've scored at home

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this year.

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Speaker 4: Was sixty seven.

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Speaker 3: Was a sixty and sixty seven loss to Southern iois

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a team that I mean, Northern Iowa shoots it better

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than Southern Illinois, but they're basically the same style, same philosophy, slow,

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slow play, deep beds. I think Southern Illinois probably a

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little more aggressive defensively than Northern Iowa's.

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Speaker 4: But you get the point. This is a tough game.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Northern Iowa's got some ground to make up inside

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of the conference.

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Speaker 4: Belmont sits with the one seed.

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Speaker 3: A win here would do wonders for them being the

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one seed in the Missouri Valley Tournament.

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Speaker 4: They're off of a loss to Bradley.

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Speaker 3: I happened to watch that game the other night, and

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take the truth, Belmont probably should have won that game

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in regulation. Went cold the last I would say ninety seconds,

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two minutes, Bradley made some big plays, big three, and

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then in overtime it was no contest.

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Speaker 4: It was all Bradley.

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Speaker 3: So obviously Bellmont would like a bounce back here. After

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that Bradley game, Northern Iowa absolutely destroyed Murray State.

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Speaker 4: For anybody who watched that game, Murray State never had

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a chance.

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Speaker 3: As good as they are offensively, it was Northern Iowa

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who almost put up ninety in that contest, playing it

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kind of toys and Murray's style. So I would say,

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in my opinion here, the people who got to the

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total were probably correct early. I don't see this game

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staying under what the initial price was of one thirty

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four and a half were now pushed up to one

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thirty seven and a half. And like I said earlier,

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the lowest scoring game Belmont's played in this gym is

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one thirty five against Southern Illinois. I'd give Nordon and

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I were more offensive credit than that, So there's probably

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still the slightest bit of wiggle room in that one

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thirty seven and a half to still play over. But

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I don't know if I could lay five with Belmont here.

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To tell you the truth that the money's going Northern

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Iowa's way. I just think Smith it could become that

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big of a deal Fort Belmont again, no Nick McClain,

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but otherwise really healthy. And when you get to the

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tactics of this adamant it's you know, for Northern Iowa,

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I know they would probably prefer to slow it down

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even further by zoning.

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Speaker 4: But you just can't zone Belmont.

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Speaker 3: You got to kind of play a man to man

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because otherwise they'd chew you up with their passing, in

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their shooting over the top being.

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Speaker 4: An interesting game. They've seen each other a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think if I had to choose out of these two,

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I'd probably still choose over one thirty seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you made a lot of good points, and I'll

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just kind of echo a couple of those. So the

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first one is very going to be very difficult to

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find value with Belmont at home. Right, this is a

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twenty two and four team that's been ten and two

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at home. They're at the top of the valley standing,

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so good luck like thinking you're going to get like

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value on the point spread on Bellmont at home. I

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saw some market manipulators in earlier this got knocked down

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a four and a half. Quickly bet back up. There's

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still a couple of books that are slow to move back.

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You can still get five a lot of places. Couple

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four and a half's out there. I think that was

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a little bit of like that. I saw a couple

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of folks in the chat saying, you know, maybe try

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to find a way to play money line into Belmont.

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I don't hate that idea. I'm not a big parlay guy,

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but the way the timing works out, it's a nine

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pm Eastern game. If you can find something at six

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or seven that you like on the money line at

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least maybe you know, if you're if you have action

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into Belmont at nine o'clock, you know, go back to

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the game on Monday. Yeah, Northern Iowa laid it on

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Murray State eighty nine to sixty. But I want to

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comment on that that game a little bit. First, Rob,

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I think that that's a better matchup for Northern Iowa.

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won the first meeting as well. Second, Murray State has

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just been off shooting the ball for like three weeks now,

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and Murray State went five for twenty five from three

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in that game and shot thirty nine percent from the field.

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So I look at that very impressive performance by Northern Iowa.

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No question, getting Tristan Smith back matters and has helped

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them immensely. But some of that eighty nine to sixty

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is on Murray State, just you know, it's more on

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Murray State in my opinion that it is Northern Iowa

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just being like so dominant that we have to like

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fear playing against Northern Iowa at this point. So I

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kind of agree with the sentiment that like line is right.

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I see a couple of folks in the chat saying

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line is right. Yeah, I think I made this Belmont

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minus five point four, so right in line with like

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where it is right now. I would love to find

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a way to play Bellmont because when it comes down

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to it, Robbie, of two teams that are solid defensively

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that should be able to, you know, theoretically, should be

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able to.

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Speaker 2: Get stops and alter what the other team wants to do.

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Speaker 1: But then you get to Belmont, their floor spacing their

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ability to make shots. I would rather have that on

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their home floor then Northern Iowa trying to score on

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this Belmont team.

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Speaker 2: On the road.

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Speaker 1: Bellmont won the first meeting by thirteen. A lot of

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you know, a lot of those matchup sort of things

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came into play, right. I don't think Northern Iowa, uh.

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I think they maybe scored sixty five points in that game.

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So I'd love to find a way to play Belmont.

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I don't know that there's enough value at minus five,

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but you can get creative.

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Speaker 2: Here, Roby.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a slow start and you could jump in

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with Belmont live right. Maybe you find another money line

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that's at six or seven Eastern. And the reason I

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like that is not that I like I'm a huge

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moneyline parlay guy, but you would at least know, you

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would at least know if you have your Belmont moneyline

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action before that, you know by the time that game

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you know, maybe look for a chance to jump in live.

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Speaker 2: If this got knocked down to four, I think.

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but at five and a half six, it's it's just

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a little I think the books did a good job,

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which is not surprising. The books tend to do a

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good job. We're here to find a couple spots they

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don't do a good job.

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Speaker 2: Typically the books.

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Speaker 1: Do the right you know, are on it, and I

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think they're they're sort of dead on with the number

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on the side here, and.

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Speaker 3: I think, just if you wanted to just go general theory,

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Northern Iowa got everything they wanted other than Smith not

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playing in game one, a fifty eight position game on

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their home floor, everything to their style, and Belmont routed.

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Speaker 4: Them by thirteen.

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Speaker 3: And you figure when you flip it to Nashville now,

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Belmont probably gets a little.

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Speaker 4: More pace on their home floor.

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Speaker 3: At times during this game, you wonder if Smith is

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a big enough defensive deal to stop Bilmont from shooting

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sixty nine percent from two point range two. I think

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we both tried to make this point, and it's not

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just Belmont shooting over the top of things and having

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an array of three point shooters, but it's the way

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they pass and cut that just tears teams up, and

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Northern Iowa, as disciplined as they are, got torn up

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from inside the arc with the passing in the in

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the mid range and the layups at the rim. Scharnowski's

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been great as a big man for Belmont. So what

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the Belmont individual team total of seventy one and a half,

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got seventy eight the first time, doing everything Northern Iowa

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wanted to do to get to seventy two, doing some

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things that they want to do this time around. I

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don't think that's out of the question for Belmont. You know,

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it's hard to lay the points because you could see

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seventy two to sixty seven, seventy two to sixty eight,

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something like that, but you would win your team total

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on the Belmont side of.

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Speaker 1: That case, all right, mansie seven dollars and seventy seven

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cent piece offering to me, I think it was because

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a great season in college basketball, follows that some specific team,

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, we have a good time that show, Adam

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Speaker 2: That's like an old school tactic.

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Speaker 1: My birth name, the name my parents gave me, Adam

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Speaker 2: Like that?

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Speaker 1: I feel like that doesn't get enough love that is.

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I mean, you were just destined to be like a

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better with that last name. Incredible, incredible stuff. I think

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what like our our one of our like the managing

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like partners. Like when he was like filling out his

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paper work, was like, there's no way that's real, and

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he's like, no, that's my real name. So shout out

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to Ski. You guys should be watching the NBA show.

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You said two pm Eastern, Rob, It's one Eastern and

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Speaker 2: Love it Monday through Monday through Friday. Rob.

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Speaker 1: You know, the hardest, the hardest working man at Wager

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talk if you're doing an NBA show and a college

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basketball show. Because my head is spinning just from doing

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the college hoops every day. All right, let's get back

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into it. We've talked about these teams and I want

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to go to Colin here because Colin has given us

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a suggestion to close out that Belmont parlay. So I

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guess let's decide if we agree with Colin. Colin says

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you could go Wilmington to Bellmont if you wanted to,

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And yeah, Wilmington does make some sense, Robino, they are

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at home tonight. I had a nice winner with Wilmington

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in their most recent game. They went down to Charleston,

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got a big win, kind of got I'll go as

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far as to say they kind of got their season

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back on track, even though they had won two games,

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you know, prior to getting blown out by William and Mary.

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You know, those two losses by William and Mary sort

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of knocked them temporarily out of the top spot in

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this league. It looked like at one point Wilmington was

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just gonna run away with this league this year, and

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the tribe said, no, that's not going to be the case.

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Watching that Charleston game and just how dominant Wilmington was

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started to think, boy, maybe William and Mary is just

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a bad matchup for this team. And I think you

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even kind of alluded to that being the case as well.

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Wilmington's back home Trask Coliseum, where they've been incredible over

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the years eleven and two again this year.

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Speaker 2: Elon.

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Speaker 1: You know, you would praise Billy Taylor for the efficient

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offense he was running earlier this year, But as we

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see the season go on, it's it's starting to like

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become a parent that this is not last year's Elon team.

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No Simpkins Twins, no Nick Dorn, and more importantly, no

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Matthew Van Cohman, who was the anchor of that two

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three zone that really allowed them to defend out on

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the perimeter and let Van Comen sort of anchor the zone.

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Last year's team I would have given a chance against Wilmington.

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This year's Elon team not so much. I kind of

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agree with Colin. I think if you were going to

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do a money line, play that moneyline parlane, that's the

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way to go, Wilmington, Belmont, Rob, Do you have any

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anything on side or total here trash Colisee in Wilmington,

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North Carolina tonight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think what you find with the Elon Adam is

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the defense wasn't good to begin with. But as you

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just mentioned, we're into mid February now, when fatigue can

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start to set in and when a bad defense just

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becomes a full erosion of defense. Give up eighty two

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to Drexel the other day, Drexel's not known for offense,

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double overtime, but eighty seven to Hampton. Hampton not known

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for offense. And now you get Wilmington coming in. Elon

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doesn't defend the three. Not that Wilmington is the greatest

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three point shooting team out there, but when you give

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them that additional asset to score with, I think that's important.

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You've mentioned quite a few times at Wilmington size, the

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advantage in there should be really big in this game.

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Speaker 4: And I do believe. You know, at first I thought, well, Elon.

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Speaker 3: Kind of plays similar to and Mary, but it's really

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it's really not that close. William and Mary is a

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constant pressure team like May basket press, just keep the

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game going at rapid pace the entire way. Elon plays quick,

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but they don't play like that.

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Speaker 4: And I do believe that that William and Mary matchup

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the more we see.

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Speaker 3: Of NC Wilmington season is and we'll look for that

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in conference tournament time if that happens again, because William

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and Marry just has been a bad matchup for them. Otherwise,

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Wilmington's had a good time of it inside the league.

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I would argue this at all to the Elon's side,

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three straight losses not the three best tat Drexel's had

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a surprisingly good season, so I don't want to put

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them in not the best type teams in the league statement,

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but Stony Brookinghampton certainly aren't, so we'll see here. I

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don't know that this is a tailor made matchup for Elon.

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It's not the kind of team that they would find

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success against Wilmington. Defensively, Wilmington size wise not stuff that

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Elon can combat. So yeah, I could agree with Kyle

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gear if you're gonna fill it out, you know, Wilmington's

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a pretty solid choice.

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Speaker 1: The more I look at it, the more I absolutely

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love that parlay. I don't know what the I mean

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if you're getting that like roughly even money or even

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like up to minus one ten, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: I haven't done the math on that yet.

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Speaker 1: That is a very strong two team in my opinion,

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because my number is is I almost like Wilmington laying

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the seven and a half, I kind of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've been they've been sketchy at.

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Speaker 1: Times against like the bigger numbers, but that's typically come

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on the road. Right, Like we've kind of talked about

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Wilmington and their slow starts on the road, I don't

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know that they're gonna have a slow start at home

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where they can't overcome seven and a half. My numbers

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closer to double digits here, it's closer to ten. Like

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And this is really interesting too, Rob They they got

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like a very I don't know if it's front loaded,

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but the all their road games came at once in

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the in the in the conference, they have now played

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two five six of it looks like six of eight

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has been on the road for Wilmington and the one home.

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The two home games in that stretch William and Mary

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and Campbell are arguably the worst matchups for Wilmington in

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this league. So if you look at the league itself,

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Wilmington has played yeah, uh two by six six of.

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Speaker 2: Their last eight on the road.

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Speaker 1: The two home games in that stretch were two very,

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very tough matchups for them because Campbell. Of course, Campbell's

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got one of the old Florida assistants who's who's really

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starting to do good things there.

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Speaker 2: And I think that that's probably a bad.

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Speaker 1: Matchup for Wilmington. We know William and Mary is a

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bad matchup for Wilmington, So you look at that stretch.

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I mean, this was a team that typically come February

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like it is putting teams and body bags at home, Rob.

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I mean, they usually crush teams in this building, especially

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lesser teams in this league. So I would lay it there.

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I'll take a stand. People want picks, they complain, they're

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like thirty minutes and we have no picks. You know,

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scroll to the end. As always, we're gonna time stamp

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this for you. I know there's some folks out there

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that wish I was time stamping in real time, which

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is borderline impossible.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get them up after the show. But I'll

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take a stand.

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Speaker 1: I like Wilmington minus seven and a half, and I

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love Collins Parlay. I love that Wilmington to Belmont. Would

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be very surprised if either of those teams loses tonight.

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All right, let's quick promo on the package. A couple

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It's you know, it's February twelve, it's still there, so

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it's been popular enough to you know, to keep the

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March when when subtly college basketball is very in demand.

477
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So we want that to stay the rest of the season,

478
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So keep supporting that.

479
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Speaker 2: We very much appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Also, Rob, I got two more days to laugh at

481
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the sixty nine dollars six days special, so we had

482
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two more days. Actually, I think it's still good through Saturday,

483
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so we'll have what we can really get Kelly to

484
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,799
laugh at that too on Saturday. But uh yeah, three

485
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days left through Valentine's Day, six days of all access sixty.

486
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Speaker 2: Nine bucks because why not.

487
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Speaker 1: What other price point would you put for the Valentine's

488
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Day Special, Rob Veino, that's for any handicapper on the site,

489
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,559
any sport, So check that out. And we very much

490
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appreciate appreciate you guys tuning in. All right, I gotta

491
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we have a super chat. The super chats are start again.

492
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,079
All is right in the world, let's go to BA

493
00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:10,200
bets right here. Let's stay in the coastal BA bets

494
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,160
says CFC drop out here, back in the BA Bets.

495
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,279
I'm assuming that was back when we called it College

496
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:17,000
of Charleston.

497
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: I love that name.

498
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,799
Speaker 1: I'm a little annoyed that they like they want to

499
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,519
just go by Charleston because I always, like, you know, Rob,

500
00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:26,799
back when I was a kid, it was like College

501
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:27,359
of Charleston.

502
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,799
Speaker 2: You wouldn't hear about them all year.

503
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:31,559
Speaker 1: They'd win whatever league they were in at the time,

504
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,960
and then they'd always like give someone hell in the

505
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:36,559
NCAA tournament, and it was just like, I don't know,

506
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,759
College of Charleston just rolled off the tongue.

507
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: Now they want to go by Charleston. It's fine.

508
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,519
Speaker 1: You've seen this all over the country Wisconsin, Green Bay

509
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,160
just wants to be Green Bay, Missouri. Kansas City just

510
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,359
wants to be Kansas City. So I get it, But

511
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,880
College of Charleston reminds me of some of those really

512
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,359
like good old like either so Con or Big South.

513
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,960
I forget what league they were in, but they were.

514
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,279
They used to be in a different league. Now they've

515
00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:03,200
kind of been the dominant force in the coastal the

516
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:05,640
last couple of years, and you know, I didn't think

517
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,079
they had it this year, Rob, But Charleston is. You know,

518
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,160
even with the Wilmington loss, I think they've sort of

519
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,640
like put themselves in that top grouping again where it's

520
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:20,279
it's probably Charleston or Wilmington. You know, a couple of

521
00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:22,759
weeks ago, I thought Hoster could have been in the

522
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:26,000
mix as well. But the more I watch Hoster play,

523
00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:29,319
the more I just think that they they there's something

524
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,079
lacking with the pride as I.

525
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:34,799
Speaker 2: Watched them play. I think it's the ability to get

526
00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:37,400
to the rim. Rob. I think that's where they struggle.

527
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:41,759
Speaker 1: It's all jump shots for Hofstra, and that's going to

528
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:44,000
be a problem against Charleston in my opinion.

529
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: So let's talk Hofster Charleston.

530
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,039
Speaker 1: Do you have a side or total angle that you

531
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:49,759
can give us here?

532
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: You know, first time around, and this was a good

533
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:57,559
game sixty six sixty four, Charleston goes to Hempstead wins

534
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:03,440
that game, and the shooting Adam in that contest was miserable.

535
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 4: So the first thing, of course that crosses my mind.

536
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: You get to one thirty with a combined you know,

537
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:13,119
with Charleston going three of eighteen from three point land

538
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,319
and still getting to sixty six points at sixteen percent,

539
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,720
seventy percent from three and still getting to sixty six points.

540
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:24,240
And for Hawstruck only shooting thirty five percent inside the arc.

541
00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:26,440
That's a terrible number inside the ark. Your two point

542
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,240
percent has to be we've been thirty five percent.

543
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:29,799
Speaker 4: So you know, you have to.

544
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: Question whether or not it was the defense was that good,

545
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,400
or if you're gonna get a little bit of bounce

546
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,039
back offensively from Hofstra inside the arc Charleston outside the arc.

547
00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:42,680
And I generally tend to go to the bounce back approach,

548
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,599
where again, I'll say it where coaches like to look

549
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,279
at what went wrong.

550
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: It could have been just been.

551
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:50,759
Speaker 3: A day of you know, guys were off whatever, or

552
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,839
it could have been that the defensive matchup for both

553
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,960
sides is that good. Hallstra's scrappy, for sure, but I

554
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,279
wouldn't think that Charleston gets held down in that point

555
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,240
range here again tonight, Adam not at home at the time,

556
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,880
Hickman and Duggan were not. I guess they've probably had

557
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,000
a bunch of games under their belt, but it seems

558
00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:14,319
like that was during the point where Charleston was starting

559
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,640
to put things together to the point where they are now.

560
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,160
They're actually in this game off of a loss, come

561
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,960
in off of a loss, which makes it even more

562
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,559
which makes me lean even more towards the Charleston side,

563
00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:31,000
and especially with Charleston point production. Looks to me like

564
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:34,119
as I stare here that the team total fourth College

565
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,720
of Charleston in this game seventy one and a half

566
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,519
seventy two and a half. Custra is still in it

567
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,079
standings wise a couple of games behind Charleston, but Charleston

568
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:48,160
has to witness one to try and keep pace with Wilmington.

569
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,279
Speaker 4: The team to just beat them.

570
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,359
Speaker 3: I think that were me sidewise, the Charleston side to

571
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,720
me just seems to be deeper, so I would probably

572
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,400
look that way. But more than that, I think that

573
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,000
their point production is going to go up here. So

574
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:04,759
if I'm going to take a stance in this game,

575
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:07,160
it's going to be with Charleston team total at home

576
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,880
to get to seventy three. The defense was really really

577
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,039
good the first time around, shooting was bad. I think

578
00:29:14,079 --> 00:29:18,200
some of that changes here. I would look for Charleston

579
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,000
team told them to go over and real quick, I'm

580
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:24,440
with you on these teams that want to be called differing.

581
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,079
I get yelled at in comments sections all the time

582
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,480
for referring to UAB as Alabama Birmingham. It's not Birmingham, Dino,

583
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:35,799
it's UAB or Uel Lapiete. They want to be called Louisiana,

584
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,839
et cetera, et cetera. During college football season, guys will

585
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:42,039
holler at me for kind of being you know, it's

586
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,720
just the way I still refer.

587
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,119
Speaker 4: To that being in this business so long.

588
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, college of Charleston, and especially when the rotation

589
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,160
the Odds board still listed as College of Charleston, it

590
00:29:54,279 --> 00:29:55,400
allows me to stay Yeah.

591
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I noticed this point in time.

592
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:01,039
Speaker 1: I noticed that some places will still yeah, well we'll

593
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,920
still list it as as I mean, you even you

594
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,680
even see some Missouri Kansas City's Wisconsin green Bay has

595
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,519
wanted to be green Bay forever, and I still see

596
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,400
some public you know, I still see a uw GB

597
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:15,039
pop up every once in a while. So yeah, it's

598
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,599
it's tough when you you were one thing for so long,

599
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,039
to try to train us to do something else. I'm

600
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,200
gonna take another stand here, Veno that this is uh

601
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,160
I may even I'm logging in, I may even try

602
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,839
to like bet this on the fly.

603
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:36,559
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use Charleston money line for the parlay.

604
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna use Charleston money line for the parlay.

605
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,319
It's really close to pick. It might be minus one

606
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,480
right now. I'm I'm gonna think about that one probably

607
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,039
for the next twenty to thirty minutes.

608
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: That may that may make my client card. What what

609
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,319
it comes down to here, Rob is.

610
00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:01,039
Speaker 1: I was at Charleston's game with Towson, and you know

611
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:04,440
what I've what I've noticed watching Charleston the last few

612
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,720
weeks is they very much become a defensive first team.

613
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,160
Like you and I have commented on their their lack

614
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,559
of shooting and and you know, offensive struggles. Now, this

615
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:18,559
was a team coming into the year that I thought

616
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,240
would have been very good defensively. Then they lose mister Dean,

617
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:25,119
great name by the way, mister Dean, who was probably

618
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,240
their best, you know, on ball defender, best perimeter guard,

619
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:32,720
defensive player. Chris Max gone to his zone a little

620
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,000
bit and it's worked. He's playing a lot of one

621
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,359
three one, and you know, there's there's not a plethora

622
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,920
of shooting in this league right, like, there's not there.

623
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,039
There's just like the game with Towson that I was at,

624
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:48,680
you know, the zone worked. It's it's just Charleston had

625
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,079
a horrible shooting night and they weren't able to come

626
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:53,000
over to overcome shooting.

627
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,319
Speaker 2: The ball poorly.

628
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,359
Speaker 1: But then again, Towsand's the type of team that can

629
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:57,240
make you do that. Towson's the type of team that's

630
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,119
going to clean up the offensive. Last hawst uh lacks

631
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:04,759
some of those you know characteristics and they're very, very

632
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:08,319
jump shot reliant. So you could say, well, that's good

633
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:11,160
against his own but not if you can't score any

634
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,039
other ways, not if you're getting not if you're not

635
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:14,559
generating good looks.

636
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,319
Speaker 2: And that's the problem with Hofstra.

637
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see a game where hoster takes

638
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,039
a lot of tough shots, and I just don't know

639
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:26,240
that you go on the road and beat Charleston needing

640
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,160
to hit a bunch of tough shots to win the game.

641
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:31,319
So I'm gonna go I had the Wilmington earlier this

642
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,200
week against Charleston. I am going to play the College

643
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,759
of Charleston bounce back angle here.

644
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a client play.

645
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,039
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to punch it in right now, which

646
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:45,839
is gonna be a you know, I may have to

647
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,640
let you take the take the wheel here, Rob, because

648
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,200
it's it is.

649
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm already having trouble doing it.

650
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's gonna be the uh the parlay leg

651
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:57,960
as well. So and I'm actually gonna see so we

652
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,640
have a we we'll get a consensu this kind of

653
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:06,079
number here from the site, and so it looks like

654
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,359
it looks like it's gonna be like minus one ten.

655
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:11,720
If it's minus one fifteen, I'm just gonna put it

656
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,960
in as Charleston money line.

657
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,319
Speaker 2: But this is one that's been kind of hovering on the.

658
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,119
Speaker 1: It's been teetering on the plus one and a half,

659
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,920
uh minus one and a half sort of line all day.

660
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:30,240
So we'll just go with Charleston money line, all right, Rob,

661
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,599
let's see, I'll try to do that in a minute.

662
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,839
Let's go back to the chat. I think we have another.

663
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,200
I think we have another super chat here. Oh look

664
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,400
at ma man, what a guy.

665
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,039
Speaker 2: Man.

666
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: She's just saying, no, don't worry about it, gotta go.

667
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,039
He throws us another seven seventy seven. That's great. I mean,

668
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,640
I got it, and I may have to go find

669
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,599
a way to I may have to go down to

670
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,480
Turning Stone and play seven. Now, Rob just throw it

671
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:57,000
like I don't know if that's his lucky number. I

672
00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:00,880
love that though. Okay, let's go to mad Max Oakland.

673
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,039
It's coming off a pretty bad loss. Listen all the

674
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,400
folks that are like, hey, you don't talk enough Horizon Ball, Well,

675
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,039
we're gonna get some Horizon League right here. Rob Oakland

676
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:14,440
was kind of the team to be, I would say,

677
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,440
coming into the Horizon League this year. I think most

678
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,360
people had them first, although I think I noted on

679
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,199
this show a couple of different times that the Horizon

680
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,360
was very, very open, like there was a lot of

681
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,159
teams that could be in the mix in the Horizon

682
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,400
League this season. Let me navigate to this game. This

683
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,480
would be where Kelly Stewart asks for our rotation number.

684
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:41,280
I'm not gonna do that, though, I'm just gonna find it.

685
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,239
I'm just gonna go through and find it. It's Thursday Saturday,

686
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:46,719
when there's triple the games. You're out of luck, but

687
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,079
I'm gonna find it. It's Youngstown State heading up to

688
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,639
the O Arena, I believe they still call this place Rochester, Michigan.

689
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,119
I think I have that right where the Oakland Grizzlies

690
00:34:58,159 --> 00:34:59,519
play Oakland.

691
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: Listen.

692
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: Apparently no one can beat Cleveland State these days. That's

693
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,159
news to me. I thought Cleveland State was going to

694
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:07,920
be one of the worst teams in the league, and

695
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,079
they're just on a rampage right now. And Oakland was

696
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:15,840
the latest victim, going to Cleveland State and losing by thirteen.

697
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,840
Oakland has now had eight days off, Rob Bino, and

698
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,239
they get a home game against Youngstown State. They are

699
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,880
ten to four, one game behind Wright State in what

700
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,480
has become a very competitive horizon. I think the thing

701
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,079
that's surprising to me here, Rob is I thought Youngstown

702
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:35,760
State might have been one of the teams that was

703
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,079
in the mix at least sort of vying for, you know,

704
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:41,679
maybe a top four or top five spot, and that

705
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,280
hasn't been the case. The Penguins are down there at

706
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,760
five and nine, second to last in the league. So

707
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,760
I'll let you start this one off. Mad Max wants

708
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,159
to talk about Oakland. He said, it's a good spot

709
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:54,280
to bounce back. What do you think side are total

710
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,800
Oakland Youngstown State?

711
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I could disagree with a good

712
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:04,440
bounce backspot for Oakland. Obviously, we've always talked about the

713
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:08,719
unique defense that they play. Youngstown has seen them enough.

714
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,760
First time around, this game goes eighty five, eighty three,

715
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,119
Oakland on the road, a winner.

716
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: You know, the one thing that I do notice about Oakland.

717
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,559
Speaker 3: This year is I didn't know that they would be

718
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:22,639
that good of a shooting team, But man, they score.

719
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,880
And every time I look up Oakland scoring again, now

720
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,639
they give up ninety one to Cleveland State. This Horizon

721
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,679
League has become pretty much in over type league. We

722
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,960
started the year with IU Indy and talking about them

723
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,639
and the way they scored, and then all the way

724
00:36:38,679 --> 00:36:41,000
through here there's not much defense. So if I use

725
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:44,440
that as a starting point here the way I handicap totals,

726
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,360
I look at the number one fifty nine now bet

727
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,519
down to one fifty six. It seems like there should

728
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:51,679
be some pushback to this number team scoring one to

729
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,119
seventy one the first time around. I don't know that

730
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:59,119
there's a lot that's changed here where Oakland is concerned.

731
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,679
A lot of times one fifty six should probably be

732
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,079
used as a baseline number. And then go from there,

733
00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:11,280
depending upon opponent, ability to score, pace of play, et cetera,

734
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,239
et cetera. Youngstown kind of fits all the boxes, checks

735
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,440
all the boxes as far as a team where Oakland

736
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,559
should be able to play a game up and over

737
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:25,159
their baseline number. Now, Youngstown comes off a bad offensive

738
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:29,039
performance against Robert Morris the other night, which again, in

739
00:37:29,079 --> 00:37:32,639
my world, bounce back is always a top consideration.

740
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 4: So you come off a game.

741
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: Against Robert Morris at home where you only score sixty six.

742
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,159
You come to Oakland where they've been a little defensively loose,

743
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,360
let's say, as far as point productions, because and a

744
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,880
lot of that is you know a lot of times

745
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,440
when a team plays softer depense, it's because of the

746
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,280
pace that they play. Oakland's just so fast up and

747
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,679
down the floor that sometimes you're going to give up

748
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:59,320
easy buckets. But to me, Adam, I don't see the

749
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,079
correlation here between the betting market and the way I

750
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:06,159
think this game's been pushed down three points.

751
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:08,199
Speaker 4: And to me, it's a little bit.

752
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: Head scratching that they would push the total down so

753
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,119
without getting it decided very much, which has been actually

754
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:18,159
bet Youngstown State's way. I would look over here from

755
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,480
Oakland and from Youngstown in a bounce back and just

756
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:23,800
going back, like I say, to the first game, I

757
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,400
don't know how much changes between these two who points

758
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,440
per possession average one two nine, one two six. Those

759
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,760
are really good numbers. Oakland, by the way, in that

760
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,039
game against Youngstown, State shot fifty three percent from three

761
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:42,159
point range. Not a lot of threes, but they hit them,

762
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,920
and the other side put up thirty five. I would

763
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,280
say for me this game would be an over one's

764
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,800
sixty eight the first time. I can't see much changing here,

765
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,440
especially the given circumstances for this spot.

766
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: Rob, we we had an we read on a total

767
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:03,679
yesterday and it got there pretty easily, right. I'm pretty

768
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,599
sure Texas A and M and Missouri went over without

769
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:10,079
much issue. And we are in agreement on and over

770
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:14,760
again here. They call this league jokingly the Horizon League

771
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,800
because everyone plays zone. Every team in the league plays zone.

772
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,960
Greg Campy's been playing zone at Oakland since before I

773
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:23,719
was conceived.

774
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,639
Speaker 2: Rob I was born in nineteen eighty six.

775
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: He's been at the school since nineteen eighty four, playing

776
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:33,239
that sort of like you know, Tom Izzo always complains

777
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,760
about it. They're really good buddies, and he always complains

778
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,360
about having to play campy zone. But you know what,

779
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,360
like Youngstown, they can shoot the ball. Their issues are

780
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,559
probably born on the defensive end. This is a team

781
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:49,559
that when it was Jared Calhoun, it's not anymore. Those

782
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:53,840
Jared Calhoun Youngstown's teams were very, very very good, and

783
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,639
they really just like there was a lot of offensive

784
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,239
freedom in those Youngstown State teams where they were just

785
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,559
you know, allowed to almost react to what the you know,

786
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,400
they weren't running anything super rigid, they were they were

787
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,440
allowed to react to what the opponent was going to do.

788
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,519
And I still think Youngstown's kept a lot of those

789
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:15,519
principles here. It's just they're they're just not getting the

790
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:17,880
caliber of player that they were getting a couple of

791
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,679
years ago. Point is, they still shoot it. It's like

792
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,000
everyone's got a green light. They shoot the ball well

793
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,599
as a team, thirty five point four from three. All

794
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:32,719
of the offensive metrics for Youngstown are decent. They're they're

795
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,840
all in the top like one hundred nationally. Youngstown might

796
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,400
have some second chance points here. Oakland doesn't rebound typically

797
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000
well you'll see that too. Teams that teams that play

798
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:48,719
constant zone typically don't are not elite rebounding teams. So

799
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,599
you know the reason I bring all of that up

800
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,760
is Oakland is is the obvious better team here. They're

801
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,719
the obvious favorite, you know, five point favorite at home.

802
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,000
I think you could I think I could maybe agree

803
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:05,400
with mad Max and say it might be a point light,

804
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:09,400
but you know, there might be some some open court

805
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,280
turnover points for Oakland here. Youngstown State doesn't take care

806
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,079
of the ball whatsoever. So like what you're gonna get

807
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:20,519
from Youngstown State is like they'll move it quickly and

808
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,239
get up a shot. But this is not a team

809
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,039
that's got great ball movement that takes care of the basketball. Well,

810
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,880
so you could get some some turnover fast breakpoints for

811
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,800
Oakland and then like Oakland, I mean, they're gonna they're

812
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,199
They're the team that arguably will score. They're the one

813
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,119
that if you're betting the over rob you're probably counting

814
00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:43,440
on more points from Oakland anyway. So I think the

815
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,519
way I'm looking at this is, well, if Youngstown State

816
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:49,400
looks like they can contribute at the rate that they

817
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,360
that I think they can contribute at here, you're probably

818
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,480
gonna get your the math as you like to say,

819
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:57,599
Rob is probably there for and over, So I'm with you.

820
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: I'll co sign that total with you, Rob Veno.

821
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,199
Speaker 4: And real Quick Adam.

822
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 3: The only two times in league that Youngstown State has

823
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,480
been held under seventy, they bounced back their next league

824
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,679
game and scored eighty three or more and both of

825
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,559
those games went over. This will be the third time

826
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:19,719
that that situation will exist. They were held under seventy

827
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,519
previous game, and the bounce back towards the over has

828
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:24,960
been good both team total.

829
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: Wise and full game wise for them in each of

830
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,000
the first two instances.

831
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:35,639
Speaker 1: All right, let's head to the American I think some

832
00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:39,239
some would say this is the feature game.

833
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:39,599
Speaker 2: Listen.

834
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,679
Speaker 1: In a world where Memphis is actually like a Memphis team,

835
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,480
this probably would have been the feature tonight, Rob just

836
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,039
playing and simple.

837
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:48,679
Speaker 2: Memphis is not.

838
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: Memphis has not played good enough this year for them

839
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,079
to just get the auto feature game on Robin Adams

840
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:57,000
Full Court Press show.

841
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: They got.

842
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:00,639
Speaker 1: They got bumped down the line for Belmont n Iowa,

843
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:03,280
which is a better game. But this is a big

844
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,400
one in what has become an insane log jam in

845
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,760
the in the American Conference. So last night South Florida wins,

846
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,880
Tulsa loses. You have this is this is what the

847
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,840
this is what the American standings look like coming into

848
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,079
right now. South Florida nine and three, Tulsa eight and four,

849
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,440
Memphis seven and four, Temple seven and four, Charlotte seven

850
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,760
and four, Wichita seven and five. The upset win for

851
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,079
UAB now has UAB seven and five. There's like there's

852
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:36,360
like eight, like seven or eight teams, rob that still

853
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,480
have a legitimate chance to win this league and it's

854
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:42,440
February twoth. You just don't see that very often. So

855
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,800
parody has been huge in this league this year, and

856
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,039
you know, I guess I'm not surprised about this. North

857
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:54,440
Texas is not in that group. This is the first

858
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:58,079
year under Danielle Robinson. I do think there's some potential

859
00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:01,400
with this North Texas team, but it's really tough at

860
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,280
a school like North Texas to lose to Grant McCaslin

861
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:06,719
and then hit it out of the park with Ross Hodge,

862
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,800
to lose Hodge and then like this is the third

863
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,400
coach and how many years they've lost a ton of time.

864
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,119
You know, Tyler Perry is not walking through that door

865
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,320
right now. It's like that, that's just the thing. It's

866
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,599
a transition year for North Texas. But then again, Rob

867
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,199
membhis has been a pretty big disappointment I think by

868
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:29,400
all accounts from what I think many people expected them

869
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,880
to be. So where are you at on Memphis North

870
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,960
Texas tonight at the super Pit in Debton, Texas.

871
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm at the stage where I can't play North

872
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,920
Texas generally. I mean a game like this in years past,

873
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,360
even like last year, you would jump at the opportunity

874
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,679
to take North Texas plus two and a half at home, thinking, man,

875
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:51,360
I'm going to win this game like sixty three to

876
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,880
sixty and not really have a lot of concern about it.

877
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,880
But North Texas just can't score. Yeah, I've watched them enough.

878
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:03,599
They just can't find the basket. And Memphis is good

879
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:07,880
at defenses, North Texas is. Memphis actually statistically is better

880
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,480
at defense than North Texas is as far as efficiency

881
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,760
inside the league games is concerned.

882
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 4: So in North Texas they.

883
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:19,559
Speaker 3: Have to have that advantage in my mind, this year,

884
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,079
they have to have that advantage where they're playing a

885
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:25,440
team at home that's not a very good defensive team,

886
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,480
where they're poor shooting can exist but still score enough

887
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,480
to beat the opponent. Here, I'm not sure that their

888
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,440
poor shooting can't exist and beat Memphis. Memphis is more

889
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,000
apt in my mind to come up with points than

890
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:40,119
North Texas is.

891
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 4: It's a short number two and a half. Now, the

892
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:43,960
other side of.

893
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: That equation is if I go to the window with Memphis,

894
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,079
I have to trust Memphis and haven't been trustworthy so

895
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,760
far this year. But I would think that even in

896
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,159
a North Texas style game, which I'm going to assume

897
00:45:57,199 --> 00:45:58,760
this game is going to be played the way North

898
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,760
Texas wants to be played, I still think in that

899
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,320
style of game, Memphis is the better team with the

900
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,800
higher seiling simply because you know, North Texas would have

901
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,960
to hold Memphis to I don't know, I'm gonna use

902
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,239
a base number here, I'd say Memphis would have to

903
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,199
hold or excuse me, North Texas would have to hold

904
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:23,760
Memphis to like thirty four percent shooting tonight thirty three

905
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,639
percent shooting in order to win this game. Not that

906
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:28,639
they have to win because they're getting two and a half,

907
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:30,960
but I would say if Memphis shoots better than thirty four,

908
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:34,360
they probably win by three. So for me, this is

909
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,760
gonna be Memphis very disappointed in the way North Texas

910
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,480
has played Thish. I mean, they haven't failed on the

911
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,159
defensive side. At them, they're still the same as their

912
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:47,360
reputation and their perception goes. But it just you watch

913
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,519
them play and if they take a jump shot, you

914
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,639
know there's certain guys where I'll say, man, when that

915
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:56,880
guy puts it up, I know what's going in. When

916
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:59,039
when North Texas puts it up, you just know it's

917
00:46:59,039 --> 00:47:01,199
a brick. It's coming off somewhere. You've got to be

918
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,519
able to rebound. Memphis. I don't think they can. I

919
00:47:03,519 --> 00:47:06,880
don't think they're giving up second chance points. So I

920
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,719
would probably lean Memphis in this game minus the two.

921
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: And a half total.

922
00:47:11,559 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: If the opener that we're seeing on our odd screen

923
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,199
of one thirty and a half is correct, there's been

924
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:20,960
a seven point move to the over seems a little

925
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:23,400
drastic to me when thirty seven and a half from

926
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,639
that's assuming that the initial opener is correct as we

927
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:29,039
see it on our screen. I'm not sure that it is,

928
00:47:29,079 --> 00:47:31,519
but that total is probably in a good place. I

929
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:34,440
would I would lead Memphis or else just lay off

930
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:34,760
the game.

931
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: Rob there is an insane scheduling dynamic here, and I

932
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:45,440
understand what Memphis was trying to do. So Memphis going

933
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,159
into the season probably thought that come mid February they'd

934
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:51,280
be in the mix for an at large, and so

935
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,719
they went ahead and scheduled a trip out to Logan,

936
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,119
Utah this weekend to play a non conference game with

937
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,880
Utah State. The reason for that is simple, the American

938
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,480
is now perceived to be probably a one big league,

939
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,599
right unless it was a Memphis was probably the only

940
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:13,320
team that scheduled to the way where it's like they

941
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,480
could have probably they could have probably been if they

942
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,960
were winning a lot of these non conference games or

943
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:20,000
like some of their bigger games, they would have been

944
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,360
in line for eight for an at large. So what

945
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,199
it meant this is actually genius. I'd like to see

946
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,039
more more conferences do this. But basically, they got together

947
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:31,639
with Utah State and said, Hey, Utah State, you guys

948
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:34,039
are going to probably be in the same boat trying

949
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:35,719
to get an at large out of the Mountain West.

950
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,199
Speaker 2: Why don't we play each other mid February.

951
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: Rob It reminds me of the good old days of

952
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:46,239
Bracketbuster Saturday, which as a Siana College kid where the team.

953
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: Was really good.

954
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: Was like literally like we used to look forward to

955
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,960
that all year because we knew that we were going

956
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,960
to end up getting a big game on national TV.

957
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: I think one year Seattle went out to Boise.

958
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: A different year, I believe we had Butler back when

959
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,280
Butler was still quote unquote mid major.

960
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: So that's awesome that they did that.

961
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: But like, the mentality has to be this, this has

962
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,880
to be the more important game now, right because there's

963
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,840
no way Memphis is sitting there thinking that they're getting

964
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,239
an at large bit at this point. I don't think

965
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,239
that that's I think that's off the table a little bit.

966
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,880
So wouldn't you think that right now, the focus is

967
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,159
on North Texas and not so much the game on Saturday,

968
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,880
Whereas like let's say Memphis was coming into this weekend

969
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:29,400
and they were like on the fringe of being a

970
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,159
top twenty five team. I think, okay, you could say

971
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:35,000
maybe this is a look ahead spot for Memphis. Now

972
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,679
I think this is the bigger game. And you know,

973
00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:40,639
I'll go back to something that I said prior to

974
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:42,920
the UAB game when we talked about these two teams

975
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,599
last Thursday, I felt like that UAB game was like

976
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:51,079
the Penny Rally, the troops come to Jesus type Like

977
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,199
I think I use that term just to be like, hey,

978
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,599
we got to get back on the right path or

979
00:49:56,679 --> 00:49:59,280
right right track. We just lost to Tulane. There's still

980
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,880
a lot of season left. We can still win our league.

981
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: Okay. And they went out on the road in Birmingham.

982
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,000
They won by ten.

983
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: Next time out, they absolutely trash a Charlotte team that

984
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,199
has played very well this year. So I kind of

985
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,440
think Memphis might be on a little bit of a

986
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,599
war path right now. And when you look at the

987
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:20,719
road trip, which is gonna be Denton to Logan, Utah,

988
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,280
I gotta think Penny's like, hey, forget about Saturday right now.

989
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,519
We'll worry about Saturday on Saturday. This is the game

990
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:29,599
we need to win on this trip. And that is

991
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,800
bad news if you're North Texas in my opinion. So Rob,

992
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,039
I'm with you. I I like Memphis here as well.

993
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,159
Speaker 2: All right, Rob, do you we have ten minutes left?

994
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:43,159
The floor is yours.

995
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: I've already given out Charleston as one leg of the parlay,

996
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,320
and I did manage to get it in for clients,

997
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,599
So we've got one leg. I'm gonna ask you for

998
00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:54,280
a second, and if we have time, if you want

999
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,199
to get crazy, we can make it a three teamer.

1000
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,039
But let's let's go to you for whatever game you

1001
00:50:59,079 --> 00:50:59,679
want to talk about.

1002
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 2: You have the floor, all right, let's.

1003
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,559
Speaker 4: Go to I'm gonna play a full game.

1004
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:09,079
Speaker 3: Total over here, Delaware and FIU seven o'clock Eastern start

1005
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,639
number has been pushed from forty four and a half

1006
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:15,559
to one forty five and a half. A couple of

1007
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:18,519
reasons here that I like this game up and over.

1008
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:22,760
Obviously a whenever it comes to Jeremy Ballard's team and

1009
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,079
the pace that they play at FIU, it's the fastest

1010
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:31,440
pace in Conference USA. It's pretty much by far. They

1011
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,519
and Kennesaw are the two teams that go the quickest.

1012
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:38,960
But Delaware is the worst defensive team in the league

1013
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,679
efficiency y, So you get the fastest paced team at

1014
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,440
home against the worst defense in the league. And Adam

1015
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,280
we talked about this early and part of the handicap

1016
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,039
here is I think it starts to show up now.

1017
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:54,320
This is the third distance road trip that Delaware is

1018
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,360
going to go on this year. We talked about how

1019
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,400
these teams have to go, you know, like if you're Delaware,

1020
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,840
you have to go to Texas schools to go to Missouri,

1021
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,639
et cetera, et cetera.

1022
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,079
Speaker 4: This's mean a third time they're going to go.

1023
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: On one of these back to back roadies that aren't

1024
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,000
really close to home. Not that FYU is out of

1025
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:12,199
the Eastern time zone, but still trip again for Delaware.

1026
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:16,079
A team that wants to play at the slowest pace

1027
00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:20,480
in the league probably gets sped up here by FYU.

1028
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:25,559
TONIGHTYU enters off of playing three of the best defensive

1029
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:29,039
teams in the league. They just got done playing Jacksonville State,

1030
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:33,519
Middle Tennessee, and Western Kentucky. Those three all rank in

1031
00:52:33,559 --> 00:52:36,880
the top four of Conference USA defense. It's not easy

1032
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,159
to score against those guys. It's not easy to make

1033
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:45,960
those teams run. But YETYU got Jacksonville State amazingly to

1034
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,440
play an eighty possession game. Middle Tennessee was overtime, so

1035
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,320
the possession numbers are a little bit skewed. It was

1036
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,119
a fast game. Western Kentucky game hits one point fifty.

1037
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:58,920
Western Kentucky generally doesn't want to move that quickly, So

1038
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:01,679
you've got three really defensive teams there's a step down

1039
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,159
defensive class for FYU. It's a case matchup that they'll

1040
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:10,719
probably enjoy. We're gonna get enough scoring opportunities here. I

1041
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,760
think that this number. Again, when I play these things,

1042
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,280
I'm always looking for matchup advantages against season long statistics,

1043
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,239
because that's how oddsmakers price these games. This game's priced

1044
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,639
one forty four and a half opener because Delaware is

1045
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,280
you know, their season long results indicate that their slower pace,

1046
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,840
their lower scoring, et cetera, et cetera. It doesn't really

1047
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,119
factor in the fact that you know FYU will probably

1048
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:39,159
speed them up here. There's enough of that incorporated long

1049
00:53:39,199 --> 00:53:42,519
way the FIU's results to give you a number that's,

1050
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,079
you know, it's attackable. Here is a word I like

1051
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,159
to use when I think these totals are a little

1052
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:50,960
bit too short. Delaware will score in this game. They

1053
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,679
should be able to score because FIU doesn't play a

1054
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,920
lot of defense whatsoever. FIU doesn't really rebound on a

1055
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,199
defensive end, so Delaware can get set and chances. There's

1056
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,440
just a lot of matchup angles here, Adam, along with

1057
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,840
what I think might be somewhat of a fatigue road

1058
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,440
trip for Delaware, especially by the second game. I think

1059
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,280
the game that follows this is a trip to Missouri

1060
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,239
State and maybe someone.

1061
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,119
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, it's close enough.

1062
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: They look at the league, Well we'll just have them

1063
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,079
go to Springfield, Missouri after going to Miami.

1064
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:26,519
Speaker 2: I mean, Saturday could be a real time.

1065
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 3: But this, Yeah, it's like when you have a connector

1066
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,760
to Missouri to go through Miami Beach.

1067
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 4: But you get the idea here.

1068
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of things that favorite FYU

1069
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,199
scoring high in this game. I think Delaware will follow

1070
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,840
suit because FYU doesn't defend.

1071
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:44,559
Speaker 4: Listen.

1072
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:50,079
Speaker 3: FBU hasn't been under this particular number one half their games.

1073
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,039
Their last nine games, eight of them have been over

1074
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:56,360
this total. And there's all kinds of teams inside this

1075
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,679
conference USA. We've talked about how kind of eclectic it

1076
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,599
is to speak, So for me, I think the number

1077
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:04,719
is right. I was thinking it would be more towards

1078
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,719
the one fifty range. I was thinking more of like

1079
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,920
a seventy eight seventy two type final in this one.

1080
00:55:10,039 --> 00:55:11,920
And I sit here and get one forty five, So

1081
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,280
I'm going to play that as our parlay.

1082
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 4: Leg FIU Delaware over one five.

1083
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, people, I see some folks in

1084
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:24,960
the chat saying FIU plays no defense, saying FIU is

1085
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:28,880
you know, good team total look like Delaware is awful defensively,

1086
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:31,679
there's not I mean this is this is not a

1087
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:35,840
good basketball team. That's it's they've been quite unorganized. But

1088
00:55:36,039 --> 00:55:39,840
remember Delaware is stepping up in class to the Conference

1089
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,039
USA from the Coastal where they finished near the bottom

1090
00:55:43,079 --> 00:55:47,519
of the league last year. It's it's mostly guards, like

1091
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:50,119
they're you know, there's gonna be easy buckets probably to

1092
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:53,000
be had in the paint for FYU if they can

1093
00:55:53,079 --> 00:55:55,639
get the ball in there. I guess the one thing

1094
00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,960
Delaware does okay, is they do have some guards that

1095
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:02,480
can play. But I would say, you know, like you

1096
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,639
look at the game they played last weekend, that's a

1097
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,199
nice win for them, overtime win over over Middle Tennessee

1098
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,320
State eighty nine eighty eight. So they've shown the ability, Like, listen,

1099
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,880
that's not a terrible team Middle Tennessee State. They've showed

1100
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,320
the ability to put the ball in the basket. Uh,

1101
00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:20,719
Delaware hits their free throws. You gotta love that. If

1102
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,199
you're talking about an over a team a game that's

1103
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,719
like you know, could see some fouls because neither team

1104
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,719
is super organized defensively. Delaware forty third in the country

1105
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,360
in three in free throw shooting seventy six point two

1106
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,639
percent as a team, both teams in the top one

1107
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,480
hundred from three. But I'll tell you what, rob Delaware

1108
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,719
won't get a single rebound in this game. They are

1109
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,239
gonna get murdered on the glass by Florida International here.

1110
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,400
So you start to you start to throw in some

1111
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:52,400
second chance points in an ugly game, in a game

1112
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,880
where neither defense is very good, both teams can hit

1113
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,480
the outside shot. This just this feels like it could

1114
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,079
be playground ball for a little while at stretches. But like, hey,

1115
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,800
if the shots are falling, you may have another game

1116
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,239
in the eighties and you don't even need to get

1117
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:08,920
into the eighties here.

1118
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 2: What did you say? This was one forty mid one forty.

1119
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny, somebody had said the other day. Oddsmakers

1120
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,360
watched this show as I was talking, it went all

1121
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,679
the way up to one forty six.

1122
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 4: Now, so we have to use what forty six as

1123
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,280
our number?

1124
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: But it just got bet And I would say this,

1125
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:27,079
it probably could have been a stronger play on a

1126
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:29,920
client card for me if in fact I knew.

1127
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: Because Julian Mackie didn't.

1128
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:35,679
Speaker 3: Play last game for FIU, second leading scorer around a team,

1129
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:38,239
doesn't mean FIU is not going to play with pace again.

1130
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,880
Doesn't mean that they don't have another guy that's going

1131
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,599
to come in and do you know, be able to

1132
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:47,360
do affidable Jobo offensively. But if he were involved, I

1133
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,639
probably would have bet this one even stronger than I did.

1134
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just wanted to sort through.

1135
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:59,639
Speaker 1: I mean, FIU is twelve twelve, They're they're ranked twelve

1136
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:02,199
and ken palm adjustin tempo, So I don't think one

1137
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,480
guy is going to like knock them off of the

1138
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:11,119
pace that they're gonna try to play. Listen, Delaware getting

1139
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,440
sucked into that, Delaware getting sucked into that type of

1140
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,800
game that I don't I don't know that Delaware is

1141
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,599
dictating anything against anyone like this is the worst team

1142
00:58:18,599 --> 00:58:19,199
in this league.

1143
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,519
Speaker 2: They're they've been pretty outmatched in a lot.

1144
00:58:22,519 --> 00:58:25,119
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna they'll have their their day every

1145
00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:26,800
once in a while where they step up and like

1146
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,559
upset a middle of the pack team in this league,

1147
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:32,400
like a Missouri. A Missouri who did I just say

1148
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,480
they beat Middle Tennessee State, but they're gonna do it

1149
00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:37,920
by by hitting threes eighty nine, eighty eight.

1150
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: They work.

1151
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: They're not digging in and winning a game on the

1152
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,360
defense e end. They will upset someone by just going

1153
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,760
bombs away and hitting a bunch of shots. So rob youno,

1154
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,679
I think you found a good one right here, and

1155
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,679
we'll go two team or today we're gonna we'll go

1156
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,239
two team or today two team or tomorrow three teamer

1157
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,599
over the weekend, uh with Kelly. So today's parlay plus

1158
00:58:57,639 --> 00:59:02,760
two sixty, Actually you can actually probably get Charleston plus

1159
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,360
one minus one ten right now. That keeps going back

1160
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,199
and forth, that one keeps slip flopping. I ended up

1161
00:59:09,199 --> 00:59:11,079
giving it out to clients at minus one ten on

1162
00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:14,280
the money line. But there are some Charleston plus ones

1163
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,039
out there right now. So for the parlay, we're just

1164
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:19,800
gonna call it Charleston money line minus one ten.

1165
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: That's a four percent client play for me.

1166
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: I really like the the Koobs to get it done

1167
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,400
tonight at home, and then Robino is gonna go a

1168
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,039
little bit south for what should be just a disaster

1169
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:36,400
of a game Delaware FIU very little defense played, lots

1170
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,079
of shots being chucked up and hopefully most of them

1171
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:43,280
going in to hit over one forty six. So Charleston

1172
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,199
money Line, Delaware FIU over one forty six. As always,

1173
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,079
I see a bunch of people in the chat looking

1174
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:51,440
for other games. I'm gonna probably have a pretty big

1175
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,880
card today. I already got two locked in and there's

1176
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,760
probably two or three more coming. Robin's gonna have his

1177
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,519
usual spread of plays. You can get both of them,

1178
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:03,320
CBB Firepower. Have a great day everyone. We will see

1179
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,880
you guys in the morning for more Full Court Press