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All right, Welcome to the program one oh seven point

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nine FMWBT, Charlotte's FM News Talk Pete Calendar here.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot for hanging out. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: The phone number is seven oh four five seven zero,

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one oh seven nine. That is also the WBT text

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line driven by Liberty Buick gmc.

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Speaker 2: So. Uh what.

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Speaker 1: Over the last forty eight hours, two communist dictators have

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been deposed, first Maduro and then Tim Walls from Minnesota.

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Run again, I kid, I kid, he's stepping down. He's

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not been arrested yet. He's not been arrested, but Maduro

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has been and I have spent the last forty eight

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hours becoming an expert now in Venezuela. Okay, I am

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now a self appointed, self credentialed, self identifying expert on Venezuela.

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I'm actually not at all. I'm nor am I an

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expert on constitutional law and the War Powers Act and

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all of that, Okay, But I do have some some

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of the writings and reactions of people who are experts.

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If we are to believe the experts, and there are

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a couple of different angles here, I'm curious to know

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how people are kind of interpreting this, how you how

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you are thinking about what what occurred. This was Jonathan Turley,

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who is a constitutional law professor. Guy, uh, pick he's

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up at uh Is it George Mason University or is

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it Georgetown? I forget where. Maybe it's I think it's

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a college with George and the name, maybe George Washington University.

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Speaker 2: I forget.

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Speaker 1: But he has a blog that he writes on and

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it's Jonathanturley dot org, and he breaks down some of

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the the legalities of the you know, the mission to

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go and capture Nicholas Maduro and his wife picked them

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both up. I'm not sure if he's got another wardrobe

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change lined up. I've seen the guy in like six

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different outfits so far. I don't know if they just

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keep changing his clothes at every location. He gets to

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like swapping out his jammys for the sweatsuit and then

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swapping that out for another sweatshirt and sweatpants and then

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swapping that out. So I'm not sure what that's all about,

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but I have noticed it. So, Jonathan Turley writes. In

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an Extraordinary military operation, the United States launched a large

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scale operation in Caracas, Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: Caracas is the capital.

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Speaker 1: They use special forces, and they seized President Nicholas Maduro

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and his wife. The operation comes not long after the

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thirty seventh anniversary of the capture of Manuel Noriega that

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was on December twentieth, nineteen eighty nine. Noriega was convicted

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of drug and money laundering offenses and sentenced to forty

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years in prison. This operation will be justified as executing

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a criminal warrant and responding to an international drug cartel,

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which is a very similar legal framework to the one

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that was used against Noriega. So you've got two different

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questions here, right, You've got the the US legality, and

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then you have the quote international law. Right, you got,

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these are your two arguments that are playing out. He says,

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there is precedent supporting the earlier operation against Noriega, which

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will now be used to defend the actions in Venezuela. Okay,

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And I also have a write up by a guy

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named Jack Goldsmith. So Turley says Trump does not need

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congressional approval for this type of an operation. So this

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is related to the US legality argument. Right, what does

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the constitution say? Is this a dec laration of war?

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I mean, certainly one would think that, you know, flying

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into a foreign country, you know, killing thirty two members

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of the Cuban intelligence force that was acting as the

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security for Maduro, taking Maduro and his wife, and bringing

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him and her back to America to stand trial. You

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can argue that that is a law enforcement type of

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an operation and that the military was needed to provide

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protection for the law enforcement units. However, you could also

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see it as, hey, we just implemented regime change. We

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just toppled a dictator, a commie thug dictator, narco terrorist.

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To be sure, but isn't that a kindest sort of

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declaration of war? Like if somebody did that to us,

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we would take that as a declaration of war.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So, so that's one question, and then there's the international law,

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which I'll get to in a bit. So Turley is

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making the argument that no, Trump did not need congressional approval.

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He did not need to go to Congress and say, hey,

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we're going to take this, you know, kinetic military action,

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and Congress needs to vote on it. There needs to

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be a declaration of war against Venezuela. He doesn't need

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to do that. Presidents, including Democrat presidents, have launched lethal

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attacks regularly against individuals. President Barack Obama, for example, killed

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an American citizen under this kill list policy. And if

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Obama can vaporize an American citizen without even a criminal charge,

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Trump can capture a foreign citizen with a pending criminal

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indictment without prior congressional approval. This is a precedential argument.

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In other words, there's a lot of precedent for these

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types of actions that the Trump administration will point to

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to say these things were done before, not just with

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Obama and the overthrowing of Kadaffi and Libya or Bill

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Clinton and you know the war in Kosovo, Serbia. Right,

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his actions there or George H. W. Bush and the

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arrest of Norriega. Now, ordinarily, the Vienna Convention on Consular

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Relations and other international agreements require the United States to

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notify the embassy of a foreign national arrested and held

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in the United States. Which don't think that's really needed

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at this point. I think everybody is pretty clear what happened.

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In his appeal, Manuel Noriega argued at trial that or

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in his appeal, that his arrest violated international law under

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what's known as.

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Speaker 2: The head of state immunity doctrine.

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Speaker 1: So if you're the head of if you're the head

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of a country, then you have immunity and we can't

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do this sort of thing against you. But the district

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court rejected Noriega's claim. They rejected this argument because the

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United States government, here's the key, never recognized Noriega as

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Panama's legitimate ruler. And that is the same argument that

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will be made against Maduro. He is not recognized as

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the winner of the last election at least and probably

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not even the winner.

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Speaker 2: Of both of his elections that he ran.

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Speaker 1: In the Noriega case offers ample support for the Trump administration,

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which has had an outstanding arrest warrant for over five years.

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He's not viewed as the duly elected leader of Venezuela

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and has been tied to a criminal drug cartel. The

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action will also have a major impact on foreign policy.

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The Manro doctrine just became the Trump doctrine.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump actually referred to it as the Donro doctrine.

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This action not only confronted Venezuela but also Cuba, which

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was supplying the security around Maduro. Presumably Cuban security may

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have been involved in the firefight, which Cuba now confirms

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they were. Thirty two members of the Cuban Intelligence agency

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were killed by the Americans in this raid. No Americans

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harmed and none of the equipment harmed, which is a

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pretty big problem now if you've been buying your air

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defense systems from China, because the Chinese promised Venezuela that

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their systems that they sold to the Venezuelans would be

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able to identify, track, and knock out our planes, and

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they did not, So that's a problem for the Chinese.

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Jonathan Turley, continuing at his website Jonathan Turley dot org

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talking about first off, the Menuel Noriega case offers the

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precedent for the Trump administration's argument to justify their action

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to take Nicholas Maduro into custody. He also mentions here

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at the end the impact on foreign policy, that this

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is a warning shot to the Chinese, to the Iranians,

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to the Russians.

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Speaker 2: And Cuba.

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Speaker 1: Cuban security was providing security to Maduro, but also Venezuelan

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oil has been shipped into Cuba, and so this is

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now a problem for Cuba. Although I did just see

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this story moved on the Daily Caller. At least fifteen

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US sanctioned oil tankers have reportedly broken the blockade of

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Venezuelan oil exports since the Saturday capture of Maduro. They

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used so called dark mode tactics to evade capture. The

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now departed ships had been docked in Venezuelan ports for weeks.

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This according to The New York Times, tankers in the

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group used techniques employed by the modern ghost fleet. The

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ghost fleet or these sanctioned skirting ships, and some of

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the things they do. They paint names of decommissioned vessels

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on the ship's hulls, so you see the name and

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it's a decommissioned vessel. It's not the actual name of vessel.

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They misrepresent their positions on the ocean they leave in

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coordinated fashion to escape the blockade. Four tankers, now about

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thirty miles off port, were tracked by satellites sailing east.

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According to the New York Times, these tankers did not

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secure authorization from the new interim government led by Maduro's

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former vice president. The remaining ships have not been located

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and are not broadcasting any signals. So we've got fifteen

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of these oil tankers that are on their way, presumably

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to Cuba. Legally, Turley says, Trump has the upper hand

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in this case against Maduro. He'll probably replay the arguments

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from the Noriega case. But the precedent is already clear

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there that the courts have not been. They're not open

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to this argument.

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Speaker 2: This.

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Speaker 1: I'm the head of state. I'm immune, so I can,

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you know, run a cartel. Now, Maduro did appear in

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federal court moments ago. He reportedly said, quote, I am

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not guilty. I am a decent man. I am still

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the president of my country. So that's I think his

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the first utterances, you know, for the I'm the head

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of state, I get immunity for doing all sorts of

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illegal crap argument, which probably not gonna work. But I

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went back and pulled the press release from twenty twenty.

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This was March twenty sixth, twenty twenty, so almost six

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years ago. This was the final year of Trump's first term,

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right the election coming up November twenty twenty, and the

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press release that was put out named Nicholas Maduro Moros.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's nobody ever refers to him as Maduro

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Moros or Moros. Maybe he along with fourteen current and

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former Venezuelan officials charged with narco terrorism, corruption, drug trafficking,

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and other criminal charges, along with members of Fuerzas Armadas

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Revolutionnarias dec Colombia or FARC FARC, which is a foreign

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terrorist organization designated as such by the US government for many, many,

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many years, the US attorney I guess Attorney General, yeah sorry.

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Attorney General Bill Barr is quoted in the press release

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saying for more than twenty years, Maduro and a number

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of high ranking colleagues allegedly conspired with the FARC, causing

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tons of cocaine to enter and devastate American communities. Jorney

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Jeff Berman said the scope and magnitude of the drug

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trafficking alleged was made possible only because Maduro and other

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cor and others corrupted the institutions of Venezuela and provided

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political and military protection for the rampant narco terrorism crimes

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described in our charges. As alleged, Maduro and the other

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defendants expressly intended to flood the US with cocaine in

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order to undermine the health and dwell being of our nation.

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Maduro very deliberately deployed cocaine as a weapon. While Maduro

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and other cartel members held lofty titles in Venezuela's political

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and military leadership, the conduct described in the indictment was

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not state craft or service to the Venezuelan people. As alleged.

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The defendants betrayed the Venezuelan people and corrupted Venezuelan institutions

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to line their pockets with drug money. Attorney Ariano Fajardo

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or Shan said, far too often these corrupt officials and

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their co conspirators have used South Florida banks and real

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estate to conceal and perpetuate their illegal activity. As the

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recent charges show, Venezuelan corruption and money laundering in South

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Florida extends to even the highest levels of Venezuela's judicial system.

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in South Florida and its federal law enforcement partners have

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united to bring dozens of criminal charges against high level

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regime officials and co conspirators, resulting in seizures of approximately

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four hundred and fifty million dollars. Again, this was six

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years ago, you'll recall. Also, they put a bounty on

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Maduro fifteen million dollars for information leading to the arrest

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and or conviction of Maduro, believe the Biden administration, and

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then increased that to twenty five million dollars. Since at

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least nineteen ninety nine, Meduro Cabello, Rondon, Carvajal Barrios, and

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Alcala Cordonas acted as leaders and managers of the Cartel

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de los Soles or Cartel of the Suns. Not like

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daughters and sons, but like moons and sons Suns. That

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name refers to the Sun logo, the insignia that is

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on the uniforms of high ranking Venezuelan military officials. So

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there is your nexus. Okay, they're using the state apparatus

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as a cartel. They go on to say, leaders of

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the FAO the farc A Beginning approximately in nineteen ninety nine,

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while the FARC was purporting to negotiate toward peace with

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the Colombian government, FARC leaders agreed with leaders of the

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Cartel de la Souris to relocate some of the FARC's

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operations to Venezuela under the protection of the cartel. Thereafter,

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the FARC and the cartel dispatched processed cocaine from Venezuela

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to the US via transshipment points in the Caribbean and

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Central America such as Honduras sorry Honduras by approximately two

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thousand and four, so within five years, the US Department

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of State estimated that two hundred and fifty plus tons

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of coke were transiting Venezuela every year. The maritime shipments

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were shipped north from Venezuela's coastline using go fast vessels,

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fishing boats, and container ships. Airship were often dispatched from

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clandestine air strips, typically made of dirt or grass, concentrated

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in the Apuree State. According to the US Department of State,

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approximately seventy five unauthorized flights suspected of drug trafficking activities

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entered Honduran airspace in twenty ten alone using what is

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known as the air Bridge Cocaine route between Venezuela and Honduras. Maduro,

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as leader of the cartel, negotiated multi ton shipments of

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FARC produced cocaine, directed that the cartel provide military grade

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weapons to the FARC, coordinated foreign affairs with Honduras and

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other countries to facilitate large scale drug trafficking, and solicited

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assistance from FARC leadership in training an unsanctioned militia group

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that functioned in essence as an armed forces unit for

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the cartel. That's the nature of the relationship that is

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Speaker 2: Okay, So back to.

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Speaker 1: The Department of Justice's statement that had put out again.

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This is from almost six years ago when they charged

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Nicholas Maduro and more than a dozen others with running

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narco terrorism from Venezuela through Honduras and into America. The

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indict There were a whole bunch of these indictments, and

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so I'm just going to run through some of the

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people that were indicted. Along with Maduro. Okay, you had

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the Minister of Defense of Venezuela, who was a general

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in the armed forces. You had the chief Justice of

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the Venezuelan Supreme Court. He was charged with conspiracy to

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commit money laundering and then taking tens of millions of

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dollars in bribes to illegally fix dozens of civil and

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criminal cases in Venezuela. For example, the defendant authorized a

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seizure and sale of a General Motors car plant with

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an estimated value of one hundred million dollars in exchange

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for a personal percentage of the proceeds.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is what.

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Speaker 1: Communists and Marxists and democratic socialists. This is what they

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mean when they talk about, you know, seizing properties. This

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is what they're talking about, collective control. This is what

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they're talking about. And this kind of corruption always is

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part of the deal.

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Speaker 2: Always.

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Speaker 1: Who else here we've got But I'm not going to

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read all of their names, but Venezuela's Vice President for

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the Economy, Venezuela's Superintendent of Cryptocurrency, the former Minister of Energy,

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the general, former director general of their Office Nacional Anti Drogas,

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which I think means anti narcotics. Also former commander of

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Venezuela's National Guard, former sub director of the Anti Narcotics Office,

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a former captain in the Venezuelan Guardia Nacional the National Guard,

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I assume, former officer in the Venezuelan National Guard, former

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Vice Minister of Energy, former Venezuelan Air Force officer. All

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of these people were indicted again six years ago. Okay,

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Now talking about the legality. Jack Goldsmith, he writes at

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Executive Functions Execfunctions dot org. He's a senior fellow at

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the American Enterprise Institute. He's a former Assistant Attorney General,

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Office of Legal Counsel from three to four, special counsel

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to the Department of Defense for a year or two prior.

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Speaker 2: So. This guy's out of the bush administration. Okay.

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Speaker 1: He says, here's the reality when it comes to this.

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You know, the War Powers Act and whatnot. Congress has

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given the president a gargantuan global military force with few

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constraints and is a wall in overseeing what the president does.

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With it, Courts won't get involved in reviewing unilateral presidential

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uses of force, and no country plausibly could stop the

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US action in Venezuela. That means that, in practice, the

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only normative legal framework for presidential war powers that matters

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derives from executive branch press as well as legal opinions.

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The Justice Department, if asked, could easily have drafted an

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opinion based on precedents and opinions to justify the invasion

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of Venezuela. Notably, as I mentioned the invasion of Panama,

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that was precedent right, and it's going to matter to

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the Venezuela attack due to an opinion that was written

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in nineteen eighty nine by the then Assistant Attorney General,

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Bill Barr wrote this up six months before the invasion,

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and the opinion justified FBI arrests in foreign countries under

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domestic law, even if doing so violated international law. Right

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therein lies the key, and that's why the DOJ went

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with the military. They were there, they took Maduro into custody,

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they read him his rights, they brought him back for trial. Right,

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they're treating this as a law enforcement operation. The military

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is there to provide the security to the law enforcement officers.

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The arrest was the primary justification for the action, so

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the opinion written by Bill barr Low those many years

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ago will likely be presented as the main domestic legal

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foundation for this action. There is another line of precedent

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that justifies unilateral uses of presidential force when it's deemed

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to be in the national interest. Recognized national interests include

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the protection of US persons and property, promotion of regional stability,

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humanitarian concerns, and all three of those could concedevably be

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invoked in this case. The DOJ opinion could also cite

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dozens of specific instances of past unilateral presidential uses of force,

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stretching back at least to Jefferson Thomas Jefferson and his

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authorization to attack the Barbary pirates the Muslims.

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Speaker 2: That's that.

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Speaker 1: So that was about our first war was against that

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was against Muslims. They were well because so what was

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happening back then was after like when we were part

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of the British Empire, the Brits were paying off the

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Barbary pirates, the jizya they were They would just pay

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the tax basically right, they would pay the pirates. So

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this way under Islam, I'm paying you this tax as

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a non believer, I'm paying you the jizia. And therefore

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you give us safe passage. You don't take our sailors

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into your custody and murder them, rape them, put them

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to work on your boats and whatnot. Well, when we

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broke away from the Brits, now we are not part

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of the British protection where they're not paying the jisia

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for us.

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Speaker 2: And so when.

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Speaker 1: Jefferson is, you know, meeting with these leaders and it's like, hey,

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what's going on here. We've done nothing to you, Like

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we're brand new country, we got nothing against you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Why are.

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Speaker 1: You impressing our sailors? And they said, well, because you're infidels,

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and that was it. Like like our religion commands that

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we do this to you. That's what he said to Jefferson.

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And he was like, okay, send the Marines.

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Speaker 2: That was it.

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Speaker 1: That's how they got the term leatherneck, by the way,

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because they would wear leather on their necks. They would

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put neck bands. The Marines would Why you may have

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heard there's a certain aptitude for next severing among some

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people over there, all right, If you're listening to this show,

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more transparent. Okay, all right, I'm just seeing this. I'm

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just seeing this breaking news. At first it was Nicholas Maduro,

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then Tim Walls not going to run for reelection as governor,

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and now State Representative Carla Cunningham from Charlotte is one

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of multiple parties in a petition that seeks to remove

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Mecklenburg County Sheriff Gary not my fault, mcfan and.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's happening.

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Speaker 1: It's actually happening for attempted extortion, what attempted extortion and corruption?

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Will full misconduct, and here it is. What have I

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been This is the hook. I've been saying this for

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what three years? Maladministration in office as well as wilful

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and habitual refusal to perform the duties of his office.

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I've been saying, right, there is a way to remove

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bad sheriffs, and this is the way.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Representative Carla Cunningham. Now she's gotten a bunch of challengers

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now in her primary. In fact, hang on a second,

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believe I saw Josh Stein came out and endorsed one

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of her opponents. Yeah, Governor Josh Stein endorses Reverend Rodney Sadler, who,

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by the way, he's one of Reverend Barber's Moral Monday

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or guys, he's one of them. And so I pointed out,

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Stein is doing Roy Cooper right, Josh Stein is following

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in the footsteps of what Roy Cooper did, which was

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to primary Democrats that did not fall in line one

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hundred percent of the time with him. And so if

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you thought Stein was going to behave any better than Cooper,

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well this is your uh, this is your wake up call.

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Speaker 2: He is not. All right, let me go back to

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the email. My gosh, I have not even done reading

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the statement. Here.

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Speaker 1: Among the allegations described is and I have not read

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the petition yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I do have it. Let me see here, I

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have it open. I'm gonna have to read this. How

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many pages of this thing? I don't know? Seems pretty lengthy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. All right, well I got to read

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that during the break. All right, let me go back

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to the press release. Among the allegations described as a

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threat made to Representative Cunningham in connection with her work

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as a legislator quote, no sheriff should ever suggest that

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a legislator's safety depends on how she votes. I was

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afraid and the intimidation affected me. This process exists for

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serious situations involving public trust, and the people of Mecklenburg

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County deserve transparency. Filing this complaint is part of rebuilding trust,

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trust in a fair process, trust in our institutions, and

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trust that concerns will be handled through proper channels, such

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as dialogue and negotiation, rather than silencing and bullying. The

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petition asks a judge to review the sworn allegations from

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Cunningham and other individuals describing additional concerns about the operation

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of the Sheriff's office. Under state law, removal can only

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occur through a court process and only if the allegations

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are proven right. But this is how you initiate the process. Okay,

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now I saw Also over the weekend, the Mecklenberg County

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Sheriff's office put out a birthday post. Did you see this?

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It was a happy birthday post to Sheriff McFadden. Thank

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you for keeping style alive in Mecklenburg County and most

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of all for leading mcso with pride. We're honored to

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call you our sheriff and be part of the best

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under your leadership. And so it's a it's a birthday message.

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And then they had a little video montage of clips

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of Gary not my fault McFadden styling, profiling and vibin

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dancing in various outfits and showing off his fancy clothes

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and his shoes and his watch. At one point is

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New York Yankees ball cap? Right, So that was from

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that's that's on the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's office Facebook page.

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They probably instagrammed it too. Yeah, so a happy birthday

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from you know, your employees. We love you, boss. Here's

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some pictures of you all dut it up in dancing.

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Speaker 2: What else?

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Speaker 1: I feel like there was something else? Oh, that's right,

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there was something else. Apparently the North Carolina House Oversight

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Committee has summoned McFadden to appear before it on January

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twenty second. All of this is happening today, Like twenty

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twenty six is fantastic. Already we're in the playoffs. I

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did have to be in Atlanta Falcons fan for a day,

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but it's okay, Like we all have our crosses to bear,

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but we're in the playoffs even though we totally don't

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deserve it. And now we got three terrible leaders that

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are hopefully like two of them like one's in jail,

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one's not going to run for reelection and may end

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up charged depending on how that investigation goes up in Minnesota.

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And now you got Gary McFadden finally facing some of

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the music. Oh my goodness, I can't. Okay, let me

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see here. Uh, I'm ri let's say I'm reading. Okay,

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So Carla Cunningham, Marcia Crenshaw Hill, Kevin Canty.

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Speaker 2: You know who that was. Kevin Canty. We had him

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on the program.

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Speaker 1: He was the former chief deputy of Mecklamer County Sheriff's Office. Right,

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this guy's got a long, decorated career in law enforcement

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in North Carolina. And he goes to work and then

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he leaves, like within a year, and he writes the

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public letter describing the way McFadden runs the show and

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calls him a narcissist and micromanaging tyrant and the like

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told him to, you know, engage in unethical behavior, use

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the racial slurs against his command staff. Then there's Wan

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Delgado and Brian Adams. So these are the five. These

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are the five electors needed basically to file this petition.

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Let me say here, okay, hang on, no close, I

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don't want AI assistant.

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Speaker 2: Okay uh, I don't need you. This is a.

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Speaker 1: Petition by qualified electors seeking to remove him. Since assuming

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the office of sheriff in December twenty eighteen, McFadden has

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committed a wide range of misconduct in office that warrants

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his removal. Misconduct related to conditions at the Mecklinberg County

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Detention Center and jail administration, retaliation against crime victims and

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good faith whistleblowers, retaliation against crime victims, misuse of official resources,

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including violations of the Hatch Act, Misconduct related to staffing

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and promotion practices, weaponizing the machinery of the Mecklemburg County

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Sheriff's Office Internal Affairs Unit against perceived enemies while squelching

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internal investigations into perceived allies, and threats against a state legislator,

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which amount to attempted extortion and bribery.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, my gods.

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Speaker 1: Okay, man, wait, thirty two pages. Okay, I'm not gonna

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be able to. I might just read this whole thing

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in the next hour. I just might read the whole

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thing on there. This is, okay uh, misconduct related to

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jail conditions, all right, let me see if let me

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all right, we know about the jail conditions and the problems

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that they've been having there for a long time. A

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lot of people have been dying under his watch. Let

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me see here misuse of official resources, that's the part.

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Let me I'm scrolling to the extortion weaponization to do

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to do Kevin Canty's experience, Wan del God his experience,

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Brian Adams, the musical artist. Here it is Cunningham to

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previously taken opposite sides of a public controversy issue. This

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was cooperation with Ice. She voted with the Republicans to

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force McFadden to cooperate with Ice across the autovo for

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Republican sponsored bills. All right, House bill ten. Okay, I

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got some reading to do. We got news next. I'll

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be back with I'll be back with more intel.

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Speaker 2: All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening.

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