WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.080 We got a little duet between Pitt Pull and Cindy 2 00:00:03.160 --> 00:00:06.280 Lapper rolling in on a Tuesday afternoon. 3 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:08.919 What did you do to us? What is this? Dave? 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:12.320 That's that's old disco song. It's called Let's All Chant 5 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:13.679 by Michael Zager Band. 6 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:15.800 Is that one of the tracks you played when you 7 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:16.480 were at disco Dave? 8 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:18.160 When I was beIN in the Wax back in the 9 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:21.559 late seventies. That was a hit, didn't I hit? 10 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:23.920 Was it DJ Dave? What was your DJ d It 11 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:25.960 was just a Dave? Yeah. I worked at a couple 12 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:26.800 of clubs locally. 13 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:30.559 The front page twenty first South Broadway over here, okay, Broadway? 14 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.079 Old enough? Is that? What where the movie theater is now? 15 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:34.119 No? 16 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:35.679 No, no, sorry, it's on Main Street. 17 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:38.240 It was called the Broadway and it's in a down 18 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:40.159 It's now just an office downstairs. 19 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:42.560 But we had a night club, disco in there. What 20 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:43.880 was the name of the first club you said? 21 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:47.119 The front page, twenty first South ninth East. Okay, Now, 22 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.200 I think a Walgreene had a big lit dance floor. 23 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:52.960 It was awesome. Was it really lit? Oh? Yeah? Was 24 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:55.200 it lit like the kids say lit? Or was there 25 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:55.960 like literally light? 26 00:00:56.079 --> 00:00:59.280 No? It was literally light like Saturday night fever. Okay, 27 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:00.840 that was just saying I thought you were trying to 28 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:01.200 be happy. 29 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:02.560 No, it was. 30 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.959 It was a lit floring and uh man, if that 31 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:07.920 DJ Booth could talk. 32 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:09.719 Okay, that's enough, let's move on. 33 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:12.640 Dave Fox Live in studio, two pelotons, two ammys, Dave, 34 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:13.079 how are you? 35 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:16.079 I'm doing great? How easy? How was your President's Day weekend? 36 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:16.480 It was good. 37 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:19.439 I was honoring the decorum, decency, and honesty of the 38 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.560 highest office in a lands. That's what we're supposed to 39 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:23.840 do on President Day, right, Yeah, I love that I do. 40 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:24.280 The same thing. 41 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:26.079 I just I spent about an hour and I just 42 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.640 meditate or I'm all or how honored we are to 43 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:31.359 have what we have in this country. 44 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.760 You don't strike me as a meditator. Okay, maybe I 45 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:35.760 didn't meditate, that's. 46 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.599 What I thought, but you definitely didn't work because the goat. 47 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:40.640 I didn't. The goat was on the show last night. 48 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.040 Yes he was. How was our guy Mikolic? He's doing great. 49 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.519 Adams Sue, we we chatted briefly this morning and he's 50 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:47.079 doing well. 51 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:48.439 He's doing really well. 52 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:51.480 How much to NBA All Star Weekend? Did you consume 53 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:52.879 my gosh. 54 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.280 Well, so, as you know the Fox household, every Sunday night, 55 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:58.120 the entire family comes over. So there was a big 56 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:02.400 debate do we watch the Saturday Night Live, which I 57 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:05.439 just recorded and watched it later, or then we I 58 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:07.599 had a handful that wanted to watch the NBA thing. 59 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:09.319 So what was I reading? Though? 60 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:11.280 Maybe you could help me with this, I want to say, 61 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.520 in the three hour broadcast, I read somewhere that there 62 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:15.960 was like a total of thirty eight minutes of basketball. 63 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.639 I don't even think that, maybe not even that much. 64 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:22.479 Yeah, it was, in my view, awful, but a couple 65 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.360 of family members wanted to see it, and so they 66 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:28.840 sat through that, and it is what it's like. They 67 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.240 keep trying to figure out ways to fix it. Maybe 68 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:32.599 it's just time to move on. 69 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:36.080 So okay, let me kind of kick the tires with 70 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.000 you as far as where you're at with the whole topic, 71 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:42.560 because ultimately, I definitely sound like the old dude that 72 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:45.879 misses the old All Star games, but you're certainly a 73 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:48.719 guy that's covered sports in the market. Ninety three was 74 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.000 really cool. We have the NBA All Star Game here. 75 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.159 It was a good game. John and Carl co MVPs. 76 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:58.120 The game at MSG in two thousand, we saw a 77 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:01.120 young or I think nineteen ninety nine, saw young Kobe 78 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:03.520 go up against his idle Michael Jordan, and that game 79 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.960 was competitive and it was fun. So where I'm at 80 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:11.080 with it is I continue to be frustrated with the product, 81 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:13.719 but only because I do remember when it was awesome. 82 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.919 And when it was awesome, it was top shelf. It 83 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.159 was the greatest pickup game in the world. It was 84 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:22.280 the best basketball players in the world who showed up. 85 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:25.080 They cared, they played hard, and they tried to beat 86 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:28.240 each other, and simply put, that should not be a 87 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:32.159 complicated formula. But to your point, I'm kind of now 88 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:35.360 resigned to the fact that these dudes don't give a 89 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:37.960 rip no matter where it's played, no matter what the 90 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.080 format is, they just don't care. And if you don't care, 91 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:43.800 guess what, we don't care. Yeah, here's the problem. Today's 92 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.599 athlete has been enabled. I mean you could barely get 93 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.039 him to care during the regular season, much less in 94 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.120 an All Star game. Think about, you know, load management? 95 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:54.879 What did I hear a comment the other day from 96 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:57.840 Michael Jordan just laughing at the idea of load management. 97 00:03:57.840 --> 00:03:59.840 How old is he retired? Forty years old? In the 98 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.560 PLA every single game with Washington. 99 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.199 Granted, as you know, skills have diminished, but these athletes 100 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:09.599 are enabled now and they rest for anything. Well, they're sure, 101 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:11.800 is he not going to go put their all into 102 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:14.039 an All Star Game? Back in the nineties, And you're 103 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:16.160 right now, we're both being that guy. In ninety three, 104 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:19.079 every game meant something, or at least to the athletes. 105 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:22.879 They played every game and they play and even the 106 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:26.040 All Star Game. It's it's the whole thing is I 107 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.959 just don't see anyway fixing it short of paying every 108 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.040 player on the winning team a million dollars or something, 109 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:33.279 and even that, who knows because they make so much money. 110 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:35.240 It's it's really just bad. 111 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:38.600 And then I don't mind the round robin idea. It 112 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.360 feels like they're just throwing out stuff and see what sticks. 113 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:43.759 But the thought that you know, one of the teams 114 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:46.399 is a bunch of kids who really aren't All Stars 115 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:50.319 was just kind of weird, Like, does you know Zach 116 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.480 Eatie and Dalton connect and Keyantay George deserve to be 117 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:55.040 playing on All Star Sunday Night? 118 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:58.600 I don't know. It just seemed weird. It's just a mess. 119 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:01.560 I don't see any I like what the NBA or 120 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.240 excuse me, the NHL is doing with that four nations thing. 121 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.639 Yeah, yeah, that's that's kind of cool. That's been really cool. 122 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.720 I don't know if the NBA has the answer to it, 123 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:13.879 and look, they have a theoretical answer to it, because 124 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:15.800 because I'll get people like, hey, what's. 125 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:16.600 Your preferred format? 126 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:20.800 My preferred format is a basketball game played by the 127 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:23.079 best basketball players in the world who actually care. 128 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.519 That's my preferred format. But I do think. 129 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.079 There could be a little bit of juice with this 130 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:32.720 international versus domestic players, the international pool versus the NBA players. 131 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:36.040 It has been tried before, but this is different. You 132 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:40.319 can make an argument right now, shake Gilges, Alexander Nikola, Jokic, 133 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:46.120 Jannis Nbid when he's healthy, obviously Luca, like five or 134 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:48.639 six of the top seven or eight players in pro 135 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:53.439 basketball right now, or international players. So could they do 136 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:56.800 a Rocky four type thing where Rocky goes to Russia 137 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:59.720 and he's running through the snow and he's training to fight. 138 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.879 I'll go and I'm honestly thinking out loudlier because I 139 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.319 think even if they did that, the domestic players would 140 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:09.000 go over to Europe or whatever, and they still would 141 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:09.519 mail it in. 142 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:11.759 Yeah, that's what I think. I think there's anything you 143 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:12.839 can do to get these guys to. 144 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.959 Carry and even the international team, they're still NBA players. 145 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.240 Same look at Yokachi doesn't want to play. He didn't 146 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:19.879 want to be at the All Star Game, right, And 147 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.439 then here's this doesn't help either when you have, you know, 148 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.680 the face of the league, Lebron shows up the day 149 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:27.040 before and says I'm not playing. 150 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.199 Not the day before, a few hours before the game, 151 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:30.839 You're right, a few hours. 152 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:34.800 I mean, it's just stunning. But again, it all gets 153 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.800 back to being enabled. It's it's their world. We're just 154 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:40.160 living in it. They'll play when they feel like it. 155 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.600 It's that way in the regular season. It's that way 156 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.279 certainly in the All Star Game. You know, it's interesting 157 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:50.600 because that the end season tournament is more competitive. I think, 158 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:52.439 wouldn't you agree with this than the All Star Game? 159 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:55.439 Now that's an entire team and the wins and losses 160 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.959 actually count. But I don't even know how you would 161 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:02.399 replicate that. You know, I don't think there's a solution 162 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:04.839 other than just get rid of it. The Lebron stuff 163 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:07.720 I think was a horrible look. Oh awful, for a 164 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:08.680 few different reasons. 165 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.680 First of all, it's just a bad look when you 166 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.360 have not announced that you're not going to play, and 167 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:18.639 so the general public is watching intros and then suddenly 168 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:21.480 they say, okay from the Lakers Lebron James, and he's 169 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:23.560 in street clothes and you're like, dude, what are you doing. 170 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:25.879 But ultimately, if you're. 171 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:29.279 One of Lebron's peers, I do not like that All 172 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:33.079 Star games are in contracts, that the stipulation of if 173 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:35.560 you make an All Star team, then you're gonna yeah, 174 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:37.959 what's the point, You're gonna trigger a mechanism of a bonus. 175 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.079 I don't like that they're in the contracts. But Dave, 176 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:41.160 they're in the contracts. 177 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:41.519 Okay. 178 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.519 So what Lebron just did is take two hundred and 179 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:45.360 three hundred K out of. 180 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:46.519 The pocket of somebody. 181 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:49.279 Instead of saying, hey, I'm not playing, Okay, we'll name 182 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:52.480 your replacement and then this player can get paid, Lebron 183 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:56.079 selfishly took the spotlight for himself and just decided to 184 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:56.800 sandbag it. 185 00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:59.399 I thought it was a really selfish, bad book for me. 186 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.439 Maybe that's us getting back to the contract idea is 187 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:04.759 just to word it that you get this bonus if 188 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:07.160 you play in the All Star Game, not if you're 189 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.360 named an NBA All Star. That might and but again 190 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:12.279 that doesn't solve the All Star I'm just talking about 191 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:14.959 your You mentioned the contract thing that might that might 192 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:15.319 fix that. 193 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.040 But my point is if Lebron said I'm not playing 194 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:21.040 and they name his replacement, the replacement player gets his check. 195 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.360 That's That's what I'm saying. That's that's the way that 196 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:27.399 contract should be worded. But that's again that's not gonna 197 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:31.000 happen because it's it's their world, their money. 198 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:32.480 I do you just pay him? 199 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:36.480 I do think we saw some fun Keyante moments. I 200 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:38.320 don't know if there's anything that, Like I asked Tim 201 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:40.600 McMahon earlier, like, is there anything he can take from 202 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:43.960 the experience, And Tim didn't really think so. I mean, 203 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:48.080 just to just to know that you were named in 204 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:51.320 a group that has the best young players in pro 205 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:53.879 basketball and you advanced to play on Sunday against the 206 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:56.480 best players in the world. I don't know if I'm 207 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.279 stretching to kind of make this a topic, but I'm 208 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:01.799 sure Keyante came home from that experience with a little 209 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:03.360 pepminis step I would imagine. 210 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:05.080 Yeah, and he had a nice first game. I believe 211 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:06.679 the first game he had ten and they have three 212 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.840 in each of the next two. I think when you're 213 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:11.360 there in the moment, and you know this because you 214 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:13.159 were referring to ninety three and then the one we 215 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.399 had here just a couple of years ago, there is 216 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:17.960 something cool about being in the moment there, especially for 217 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:21.679 the younger players. Obviously the older players they're done with it, 218 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.200 you know, they're just they know what it is. So 219 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.720 I'm sure just that, and like you said, the idea 220 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.120 of just being named and being there all weekend, that's 221 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.039 that's a really cool thing. So and he really looked 222 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:34.039 like he was having some fun, especially in that Friday 223 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:36.240 game and he hit the game winner. 224 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:37.840 You know, that allowed them to advance. 225 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:41.519 So look, we're a market that's used to seeing our 226 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.200 players play in the game and also participate. We have 227 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:49.159 Dunk Contest champions with Donovan and Griff I think Jeff 228 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.799 won the three point Contest one year. We've had all 229 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:55.080 Stars and to only see one rep. Don't forget Jeremy 230 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:59.759 in the Dunk Contract Jeremy Evans. I'm just I'm shaking 231 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:03.159 my head because every year we'd hear this thing, like, hey, 232 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.360 Jeremy Evans, he was able to get two more inches 233 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:09.480 on his vert I'm like, did is he shooting free throws? 234 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:11.879 Did he learn how to dribble and pass? Like? Thanks 235 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:14.519 for the vert update on Jeremy, but he's getting jumpers up. 236 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:18.799 But yeah, it was just kind of odd, you know, 237 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.039 for the second straight year to have a very minimal 238 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:23.919 representation for our local team and the dunk contest winner 239 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:26.600 isn't even in the NBA. He's a good dunker though, 240 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:28.240 Mac is fun. 241 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:32.360 Yeah, but put him dunk? Well, Look, everyone Jordan competed 242 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:34.519 Larry Nance Well, and. 243 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:38.120 Here's the other issue, Dave, Like, in my opinion, if 244 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:40.360 you're gonna grab Mac McClung, who's it good. 245 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:42.399 He's a G League MVP. I mean, it's not like 246 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:43.279 he's a bad player. 247 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:47.159 You can go on YouTube and watch highlights of professional 248 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:50.279 dunkers that are wild and NBA players have never touched. 249 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:52.480 So if you're gonna let Mac dunk, go, get all 250 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:54.679 these pro dunkers and let's have a little fun, why not? 251 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.559 Because your point about so it wasn't as Jordan like 252 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:02.240 Kobe participated. He yeah, don contest. Vince Carter was an 253 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.080 awesome player, and they were great dunkers. 254 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:04.960 There were great dunkers. 255 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.799 I could keep going, Aaron Gordon, Zach Levine like, but 256 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:12.039 Muggsy Bogues, I mean, how incredible was that Bogues, Dominique Wilkins, 257 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.679 all fifty like all NBA seventy fifth anniversary team. And 258 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.480 now these dudes are so scared to look dumb, and 259 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:21.919 I think that starts with Lebron But like Zion Williamson, 260 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.360 John Moran, and I could keep going. There are really 261 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.559 good players that are really good dunkers, but they don't 262 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:28.519 want to be embarrassed. 263 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:32.200 It's like this weird, soft dumb approach. They're like Prima Donna's. 264 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.600 But it all gets back to the whole weekend, and 265 00:11:34.759 --> 00:11:36.840 at the end of the day, I think, yeah, I 266 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:39.279 think you made the best point of all. I'm guessing 267 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.120 there are a number of those guys that are excited 268 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:42.679 to be a part of it only because they have 269 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:45.679 some big bonus coming to them. Other than that they 270 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:47.440 could do without it well. 271 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.799 And the money is so big now doesn't even motivate 272 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:50.799 them and try hard. 273 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:51.759 That's very true. 274 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:53.480 That's why I don't think you could pay him spence 275 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:55.720 because how much could you pay him that would make 276 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.440 what they are already making worth it? 277 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:01.799 No, like one hundred million if you play hard, like 278 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:05.159 you know, the money is already astronomical. And I'm for 279 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.679 the players getting their fair share of the pie. But 280 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:09.879 if you're going to show up and mail it in 281 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.600 because you know your check is coming anyway, then we're 282 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:15.279 watching a product that's being run like a fortune five 283 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:17.440 hundred business and not an entertainment product. 284 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:18.879 And I do think that's an issue. 285 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.039 Yeah, and you refer to some of the you know, 286 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:22.559 I had another game pop into my head. There was 287 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:24.440 an All star game was in Phoenix. I don't remember 288 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:29.159 the year. Karl Malone, I want to say, game winning shot, 289 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:31.720 not for his team, and he jumps up and I 290 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:36.279 think he accidentally tips it away. And then afterwards one 291 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.759 of the guys that's doing the play the being interviewed says, 292 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:40.519 I think I think Carl was point shaven. 293 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.320 Oh really, I do not recall this. It was a 294 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:44.159 game in Phoenix. 295 00:12:44.279 --> 00:12:47.399 They were kidding around, but they the point is it 296 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.080 went down to the last second. 297 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:50.720 Yeah, and they fought to the bitner. 298 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:53.559 You know what, the game in Utah ninety three that 299 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.120 went to overtime I believe was a game. 300 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:56.879 Yeah, I know it. 301 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:00.320 No, it was, And that's just that's just it shows 302 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.440 you how far we have drifted away from the competitive 303 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:06.440 nature of that game. And look, the NFL finally realized 304 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:09.399 that that game stinks and what they're doing instead isn't 305 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.799 much better. But I don't see a solution to these things. Baseball, 306 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:16.919 you know, you show up, you get one at bat. 307 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:19.360 But the main you know, so I was, you know, 308 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:22.320 I don't do a lot of combative radio, right. But 309 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.120 when somebody says, well, what about the Pro Bowl? What 310 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.159 about the Major League Baseball All Star Game? The Pro 311 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.320 Bowl was never good, No, And the NBA All Star 312 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:34.080 Game was good once upon a time. That's the difference. 313 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.879 Like the Pro Bowl has always been horrible, the NBA 314 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.480 All Star Game for thirty forty years was awesome, and 315 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:41.879 now that it's not, I don't know. I think maybe 316 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:44.600 I just need to move into the area of acceptance 317 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:46.639 that this is not something that's going to be fun 318 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:48.080 ever again, the way that it used to be. 319 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.240 The whole weekend's fun for fans to show up when 320 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:52.039 it was here, it was cool. Go see all the 321 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.799 great displays and that at the salpeals. But it's the 322 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.159 games just it's brutal, all. 323 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.480 Right, h we'll end with the little college football before 324 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.919 we get there. Twenty eight games left for the Utah Jazz. 325 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.320 The playoff pushes on. It's very much not uh oh, 326 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.240 there's a playoff push, but it's a playoff for the 327 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:10.840 lot It's a lottery push. 328 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:13.679 What do you look? What's exciting about the final twenty 329 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:14.080 eight for you? 330 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.639 Okay Spence, Here's what I think, And maybe I'm gonna 331 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:19.320 be wrong, but this seems to me like this is 332 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:23.279 the time where you're gonna start to see players sitting more. 333 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.159 They did the same thing last year, if you remember. 334 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:27.519 And then guys that are never going to be in 335 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:29.840 the league, like Kenny Lofton became an All Star right 336 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:32.000 overnight because he played so well in the last ten 337 00:14:32.039 --> 00:14:33.399 games of the year. I don't know when this is 338 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:36.519 gonna kick in, but I just sense, if you're this 339 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:40.039 close to you know where you want to be in 340 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.200 that lottery, do you really blow it? Now? 341 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:43.840 You Now you've harped on this for the last two 342 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:44.360 or three years. 343 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.759 The problem is the Jazz front loaded their wins and 344 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:49.039 by the time this time of year rolled around, it 345 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:52.080 was too late to seriously get into tanking. And what 346 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.399 do they end up with a tenth you know, number 347 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:55.679 ten pick something like that. 348 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:57.840 The draft of a kid you can't play exactly. 349 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.440 You are this close to getting to top three or 350 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.519 top four, and there's three or four really good players 351 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:06.039 out there. We all know Cooper Flags the Grand Price. 352 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:11.000 I just don't think you run the risk of not finishing. 353 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.440 And when I say not finishing, I mean, you know, 354 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:14.840 sitting down. 355 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:15.440 Some of these players. 356 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:17.919 Look at this next six game homestand there's two games 357 00:15:17.960 --> 00:15:20.320 that I think are almost impossible for the Jazz to lose, 358 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.919 Pelicans and maybe Trailblazers. So the only way they've either 359 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:26.639 got to resign themselves the fact that they're going to 360 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:29.320 win those two and go ahead and surrender. Okay, see 361 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.360 in Houston and Minnesota and maybe the Kings, or they're 362 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:33.159 gonna have to sit them. 363 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:34.559 They're a ton of players. 364 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.440 So I'm of the thought that over that last twenty 365 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.000 eight that you just mentioned, at some point you're going 366 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.440 to start to see guys like you know, Mark and 367 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:48.039 and section still hurt. But Clarkson, whoever, John Collins start 368 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:49.360 to sit out. I don't know if they rest the 369 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:53.399 younger guys because they really need even more time to 370 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.120 you know, like call your in that. But that's what 371 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:57.840 I think is gonna happen. Maybe I'll be wrong, but 372 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.879 that's that's that's what I would do. Yeah to management Spence, 373 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:02.159 because players aren't trying to lose. 374 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:03.960 No, I think in a way they've been doing that. 375 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:06.440 But to your point, like you've got to I think 376 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:07.879 you got to step it up. You've got to run 377 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:10.080 through the tape. You've got to finish what you started. 378 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:13.879 There may be a point where you hear the shutdownward. Yeah, 379 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:15.799 I mean at this point, why are you playing anyone? 380 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:18.120 I guess when you know what the deal is. It Look, 381 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.440 I keep using this line what the Jazz are doing 382 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:23.879 is the right thing to do, but it sucks. 383 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:26.200 It just does if you're if you're a fan, it's tough. 384 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:28.679 I mean, I think a lot of jazz fans simply 385 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:30.919 want to go to a jazz game, eat a hot dog, 386 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:32.480 and drink a beer with their friends and go home, 387 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:34.799 you know, like they're fine with the deal because it's 388 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:37.720 winter here it's cold, and people just want to kind 389 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:39.360 of go watch a game. Maybe they don't give a 390 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:42.440 rip about exactly how competitive the team is, but the 391 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.360 diehard Jazz fans really badly want to see a competitive 392 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.159 team have to really have had a frustrating. 393 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:49.480 Year, and I really only think this is they only 394 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:51.279 need to do it. I know we've talked about another 395 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.039 year of tanking. I think this is it. You do 396 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:56.679 it now, get in that top three, maybe even number one, 397 00:16:56.960 --> 00:16:58.000 and then you're off and running. 398 00:16:58.039 --> 00:16:59.840 That's my opinion. Have you seen AJ debounce? 399 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:04.279 Yes, I know, but I don't think you can survive 400 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:07.279 another year of this. These kids are anxious to get going. 401 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:10.000