WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:08.359 This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:17.559 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book five The Butcher's Masquerade Chapter 3 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:20.120 thirty eight from last time. Since I didn't quite have 4 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:24.199 time through forty five, got a lot of coverage to 5 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:30.239 do today. In these chapters, we returned to the convention, 6 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:35.640 which does not go as expected, and I'm kind of 7 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:39.880 wondering if there's more of a problem with what Carl 8 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:45.719 did than we even know, and just a lot of 9 00:00:45.799 --> 00:01:10.079 surprise dinosaur plot lines. Welcome to spoil Me, Welcome to 10 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:13.959 the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much 11 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:22.400 to Jackie for commissioning this episode. I just really want 12 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.239 to get through chapter thirty eight since I wasn't able 13 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:29.840 to cover that last time. But like I said, this 14 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:32.079 was already going to be a pretty packed section without 15 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:37.040 me also having to talk about a previous sections chapter, 16 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:41.040 So forgive me, everybody, I'm out here doing my best. 17 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:48.719 So chapter thirty eight, we're dealing with this creature that 18 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.680 Carl is like trying to take advantage of. And I 19 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:56.519 say that not in the way that it's like this 20 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.760 is unethical exactly, because I think this is fair enough. 21 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:06.840 But I could see other people feeling this way, and 22 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:11.719 it is. What he's trying to do is get as 23 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:16.960 much of the gear from the hive as he can 24 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:22.520 in exchange for rescuing Edict, who is one of the 25 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:29.280 mantises and he's the only remaining male and therefore the 26 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:34.319 only choice for Vra to mate with if she wants 27 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:38.599 to get rid of this this venereal disease, so to speak, 28 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:45.960 this enthusiastic double gone rhea. And what it comes down 29 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.000 to here is that Carl suspects that there is some 30 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:55.000 sort of trap, but he's not really suspecting in the 31 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.960 right direction. Like I think that you know his instinct 32 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:03.080 here and the way he's responding it makes total sense. 33 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:07.479 But once you actually know what's going on, it's sort 34 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.120 of there was a sort of trap in that there 35 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:14.879 was a plan in place, but it was not at 36 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.479 Carl's expense exactly. So what it turns out to be 37 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:25.240 is that there are a bunch of weird reasons that one, 38 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:29.080 this dude can't hand over his gear because there's like 39 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.840 a party that is going to be there's already like 40 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:35.520 a contract signed, and if he does give it to Carl, 41 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:39.159 then he winds up his family is going to be 42 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:43.639 responsible for it. There's also a reason why he can't 43 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:47.280 meete with ra outside of just the fact that it 44 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.240 would he would be killed because of being a mantis, 45 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:55.520 never mind suffering this fucking gonna rhea thing. But he's 46 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.120 like not allowed to without certain permissions, and so so 47 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.759 that could potentially be something that winds up biting him 48 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:08.000 in the ass later on as well. And so what 49 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:13.680 he has come up with is because the only like 50 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:20.319 suitable death for me is death in battle, I propose. 51 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:26.639 And then he goes after Carl and gets transported somewhere 52 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:31.279 else where it will be into the nest of a mob. 53 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:38.160 And it's like a kind of I'm not sure, guys 54 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.600 about this, and I'm really wondering how you feel about 55 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:52.000 it what happens because he's teleported naked, right, which I 56 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.560 guess just means like, not only are you stripped of 57 00:04:55.639 --> 00:05:00.800 everything that you're actively wearing, but your entire in is 58 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.839 also stripped. So I don't know if this would like 59 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:09.160 count against things. I'm not sure if this guy is 60 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.240 aware that he'll be stripped naked if he is sent somewhere. 61 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.879 I have to assume he knows, Like you know, he's 62 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:19.480 part of a hive that professionally is fighting in this 63 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:24.720 thing in the crawl all the time. So I'm gonna 64 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:29.040 go ahead and assume that, like, yeah, he fully knows 65 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:32.920 what's going to happen to him. And I don't know 66 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:37.879 whether or not the stripping of the stuff that winds 67 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:43.439 up in Carl's hands anyway is a violation of this 68 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:48.920 like contract or I have to assume it isn't, and 69 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:51.680 this is why it's like the only option, or maybe 70 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:59.079 it's a loophole sort of, but anyway, So I I 71 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:02.240 really like this as like the choice that he ends 72 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:08.759 up making. The weirdness of the regulations surrounding who can 73 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:12.279 mate with who is odd as well, because it's like, 74 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.959 you know, as a male, he's going to get killed 75 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:22.959 mating either way, and evidently there's a psychological counseling that 76 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.639 happens if you are a male because of the fact 77 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.279 that you will be aware your life is going to 78 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:33.360 be gone shortly, you know. So I just thought this 79 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:38.000 was a pretty solid plan here, and like they wind 80 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:42.079 up with a ton as soon as he gets yanked away, 81 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:45.959 there's all there's so much gold that pours out of 82 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:51.759 him that he creates a sort of tidle wave that 83 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:56.000 Dona and Carl have to close the door quickly enough 84 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:59.240 that they aren't even able to grab it all, which 85 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:05.319 Donah is deeply regretful of later on, and it's just like, 86 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.639 come on, you could have gotten the rest of that. 87 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:11.879 What the hell? And I can't help but agree, but 88 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:16.519 you know, I'm very donut codd, I guess one could 89 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:24.360 say so. So, yeah, that's chapter thirty eight. And then 90 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:30.160 when we're in chapter thirty nine, we've been avoiding the 91 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.879 Dryad settlements because half the tree guys now attacked me 92 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.759 on site, and I just learned the hard way that 93 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:38.600 if the mayor happened to worship Duwata, he'd immediately task 94 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.920 the funeral bellguards to attack me too. And there's also 95 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:46.560 these monkeys, and you know the whole thing. Dona is 96 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:48.879 saying that she feels a little bad for the guy, 97 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:55.519 and Karl is unable to muster much sympathy. And I 98 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.399 believed him when he said he didn't want to be 99 00:07:57.439 --> 00:07:59.680 there and that he hated the way the universe worked. 100 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.399 Despite everything that was happening to me in our planet, 101 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:05.480 I thought he was wrong. It was stupid to let 102 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.079 it bother me. I heard my dad's voice scolding me. 103 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.160 Why do you care, He'd said to me one day 104 00:08:12.199 --> 00:08:14.639 when he caught me watching the news. Knowing all that 105 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:17.879 stuff wroughts you from the inside out, it doesn't affect 106 00:08:17.920 --> 00:08:21.639 people like us. And this is one of those things 107 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:25.439 that it's such a it's so very touchy right now, 108 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:30.560 and it should be. But you guys, like the thing 109 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:33.240 that I have been having such a hard time with 110 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:40.279 is managing my own desire to know what's going on 111 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:43.840 with my mental health as so many of us are 112 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.200 running into, you know, and his father's attitude here is 113 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:54.399 very different. I want to emphasize from what I'm talking about, 114 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:57.320 which is simply that like, yes, I acknowledge that there 115 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:00.639 is a toll on my mental health, but I also 116 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:05.480 feel a certain responsibility. His father is much more like 117 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:09.559 it it has nothing to do with you, because other 118 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:13.919 people and what happens to them ultimately is only about 119 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:20.000 them and never could like we are safe from it. 120 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.000 And so there's not only a lack of empathy there, 121 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:32.919 but a really intense individualism and like trying I would 122 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.480 call this like kind of burying your head in the sand, 123 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.360 pretending that you're totally safe from something. But the thing 124 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:43.519 is burying your head in the sand. When I say that, 125 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:46.799 it suggests that you're trying to hide from a fact 126 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:51.559 that you kind of know is there. And I really 127 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:56.559 don't know that his father knows it's there. I think 128 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.000 his father's lack of empathy really does translate to him 129 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:04.879 fundamentally not believing that things will affect them. I think 130 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:11.240 that there's a certain, like genuine quality to what he 131 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:17.799 is saying, because he is so sure it's not burying 132 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:20.879 your head in the sand if you really believe it, 133 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:26.519 and I think he really believes it, And it's infuriating 134 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.240 because living during the time that we are currently living 135 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:35.159 through the whole it could never happen to me. I'm 136 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:38.480 safe from an attitude is what has gotten us into 137 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:42.279 this whole mess to begin with. Like, make no mistake, 138 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:49.159 but uh, you know it's you've got to like I 139 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:53.679 think there is to a degree a point where you 140 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:55.360 need to draw the line and be like, I don't 141 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:59.039 need to know any more than I know now about 142 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:04.000 some things that I genuinely can't change. And I do 143 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:07.399 think that there are some things knowing and being unable 144 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.440 to do anything about them I don't think it's helpful 145 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.759 to you. I don't think that the people involved would 146 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:17.879 feel better about somebody knowing about it who can't do anything, 147 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.480 Like there's a certain urge to want to bear witness 148 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:24.360 to things to simply you know, And I understand that. 149 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:27.600 But we have so different a relationship with the news 150 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.720 than we did before. When Carl was younger and watching 151 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:36.960 the news, he wasn't scrolling his phone, he wasn't interacting 152 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.639 with people in comments. He was looking at a television 153 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:44.000 getting news from that. And only that It's a lot 154 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:48.200 easier to dodge the news when it comes from like 155 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:53.240 two places, the TV and newspapers, maybe the radio. But 156 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:58.720 now it is part of the way that we entertain 157 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:02.039 ourselves as well a lot of the time. So I 158 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:05.159 feel like we've got to be even more vigilant now 159 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:09.360 about even in our downtime we are going to be 160 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:15.679 getting hints of this like seeping in or outright. We 161 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.399 spend all our downtime actively engaging with it. And is 162 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:24.600 that beneficial? Is it helping? You know? And when you 163 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:27.720 ask helping, who good question? Who do you want to 164 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:32.000 be helping? What do you feel you're accomplishing? And is 165 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:36.879 it worth what it's costing you, like on a daily basis, 166 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.759 and sometimes yes, it's worth it. I'm not trying to 167 00:12:40.799 --> 00:12:42.879 suggest that the answer is always like, no, it's not. 168 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:45.879 I am saying that you need to ask yourself that. 169 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:48.759 And I have caught myself a few times about to 170 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:51.559 engage in an argument with somebody that when I stop 171 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:53.519 and think about it, I'm like, I don't even know 172 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:57.120 that this is a real person, and they are operating 173 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:00.320 here in such bad faith that even if they are 174 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.720 a real person, my reply to them will not change 175 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:07.639 anything about what they think. And even if it would, 176 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:12.639 I would frustrate myself so deeply and become so angry. 177 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:16.159 It's not worthwhile because I would half of my day 178 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:21.480 would get sucked into this argument. And I've had to 179 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:25.120 be so much more careful about it. But it's uh 180 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:29.320 improved my life. I feel stopping and asking myself that question. 181 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:37.399 So anyway, I'm sorry, I just saw Michael. What is 182 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.279 fucked up is that people in charge have gotten really 183 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.600 good at weaponizing the news, especially via entertainment news like Fox, 184 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:47.399 and creating a constant bubbling fear that slowly radicalizes people. Yes, 185 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:53.840 it's you know, the whole way that this that capitalism 186 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:59.000 has changed in relationship to our interaction with social media, 187 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:03.919 and with internet views and advertising being necessary for things 188 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:09.720 to survive, it has created this weird bubble where the 189 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:14.720 only way for places to employ people is to generate 190 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:18.440 ad revenue, which means you have to go to their site, 191 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:21.279 which means they have to write articles that draw you, 192 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:24.120 which means that they have to be pretty shocking headlines, 193 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:27.279 which means things are often taken out of context, which 194 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:31.759 means that maybe if we're making money from the ads, 195 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:35.360 maybe we don't need to employ people now, maybe we 196 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:38.879 can just have AI do it. And then you're getting 197 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:42.639 giving them money for viewing something that wasn't even written 198 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:46.639 by a person or fact checked or anything. And then 199 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.159 it becomes what if the person kind of clicking the 200 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:54.360 thing and going isn't an actual person either, and you're 201 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:57.679 getting paid from the ad revenue from AI viewing your 202 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:02.320 AI written article. And this is the bubble that is 203 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:06.360 happening that is going to pop sooner or later. I 204 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:11.919 hope sooner, because it's so unsustainable and so bizarre when 205 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:18.600 you stop and think about it anyway, we uh, they're 206 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.120 taking over a bunch of different settlements. They have to 207 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:25.200 kill two mayors. Carl's trying to get in touch with 208 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:29.159 his attorney and it's not working out. Eventually, he asks 209 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:35.960 Zeb to do this on his behalf, and he asks Mordecai, 210 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:40.159 and he replies that he's starting to feel obsolete because 211 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:44.679 Carl's encountering a bunch of stuff that's literally never happened before. 212 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:49.039 So Mordecai is like, I am, like, it's not that 213 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:51.879 I don't know shit. I've been super helpful at times, 214 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:56.639 I acknowledge, but like, ah, bringing me a lot of puzzlers, man. 215 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:03.360 So he's also Carl is thinking about this whole thing 216 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:06.960 with Lucia, and he's going through a bunch of the 217 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.320 same questions that I was going through last time. I 218 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:11.080 won't go over them again. You know what they are, 219 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.919 but you know, not that much time was spent on 220 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:17.919 it after that scene ended with them talking about what 221 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:21.720 she could have meant. And I'm glad that he is 222 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:26.759 just chewing that over because I would I would have 223 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:29.320 really been like, what do you think was going on there? 224 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:34.080 And talking to Donut about it, and it just you know, 225 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:39.039 we don't actually see them theorizing or discussing this and 226 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:41.440 a part of me really wonders why not, because I 227 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:43.960 feel like this would be a huge topic of conversation. 228 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:47.200 And I don't know if it's because they feel like 229 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:51.840 they're not allowed to say certain things, or that maybe 230 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:53.960 they won't get featured if they're in the midst of 231 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:58.120 like a discussion about something regarding her, because like there's 232 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.679 obviously a person influencing her, or she's cheating or whatever. 233 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:07.920 But it's something that I have noticed that happens repeatedly 234 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:12.559 in these books, is that a bonker's thing will happen 235 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:16.559 that they don't have all the information on, and we 236 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:21.400 don't really get people theorizing out loud about it or 237 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:25.400 asking each other what do you think. It's almost always 238 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:29.240 that we're relying solely on Carl's internal monologue and his 239 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:33.000 own puzzling it out with the information that he has 240 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.839 from now he's got the cookbook, but you know previously 241 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:41.079 he didn't even have that, And I don't know, man, 242 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.920 I would definitely be like throwing ideas out there. It 243 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.119 doesn't in the end matter that much, as he points out, 244 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:53.720 because like she's hurting people, and she's clearly during that 245 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:57.240 last fight kind of turned a corner and has decided, Okay, 246 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:00.680 I just need to kill everybody, So yeah, bitch needs 247 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:02.920 to be taken out. I'm not arguing that, but I 248 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:06.200 am super curious exactly what the fuck is going on here, 249 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:11.160 and I would be bringing this up a lot. I 250 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.720 would in like a lot of my downtime, I'd be 251 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:19.359 questioning it. So he also has this thing where he's 252 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:25.400 like knows that Donut got lucky in surviving, but he 253 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:28.079 wants to like say that to her delicately enough that 254 00:18:28.079 --> 00:18:30.640 she doesn't get upset, And every time they sort of 255 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.119 steer toward that subject, she changes the subject so well 256 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.960 and so deftly that he doesn't notice initially that it's happened, 257 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:40.920 and he keeps trying to bring it back up, and 258 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:44.720 finally he realizes she's steering the conversation away on purpose 259 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.640 because she's fucking aware that she's lucky to be alive. 260 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:52.799 She knows and does not require his you know, insight 261 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:56.160 on this, because she's not an idiot. And I just 262 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.200 really liked this moment. Every time that he starts to 263 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.640 like underestimate her and then realizes, you know what, I 264 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.319 got her fucked up. She's on this. It's nice, I 265 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:13.720 approve of it. So then donut like she notices that 266 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:16.880 the mongo's growling in the way that he does when 267 00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:22.079 he has smelled other dinosaurs. And they come across this 268 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:28.279 town that weirdly seems empty from far away, and they're 269 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:33.079 sort of like, oh boy, what's this now? And they 270 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.119 send Samantha in to investigate. And Samantha had been super 271 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.599 mad at Dona previously, but at this point has seemed 272 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:45.880 to get over that. There's a mention here that she's 273 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:51.920 rolling a lot faster than she used to. And there's 274 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:56.000 a point later when they're talking about their plan where 275 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:59.359 she turns up on the counter in the midst of 276 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:02.559 the conversation and Carl has to take a second and 277 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:07.599 be like, was she on that counter before? Has she 278 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:12.039 figured out how to get up there? And just all 279 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:17.440 of these little hints that this weird doll head is 280 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:23.039 beginning to advance somehow to being more and more capable 281 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:26.839 in a way that should probably be of concern, But 282 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:31.759 as long as she's on their side, is maybe fine, 283 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:37.559 you know, like question mark, I know depends, but uh, 284 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:40.359 I will just say that I love how Samantha keeps 285 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:43.279 insisting that, you know, if I were there, I would 286 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:45.880 have killed the guy or I'm going to kill the guy. 287 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:50.079 And she has never done anybody any damage that I 288 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:52.680 know of, and like, I don't think it's ever happened, 289 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:55.200 because she's made of silicone and even her fangs are soft, 290 00:20:56.839 --> 00:20:59.599 and like at one point, she's assuring them that she 291 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:02.559 would have been able to take care of edicts, and 292 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:06.720 they had just found her lodged under like a dead 293 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:11.480 log somewhere. You know, she's so lacking in ability that 294 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.319 she can't even get out from under a dead tree. 295 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:17.400 And yet she's like, no problem, I would have absolutely 296 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:20.480 smoked that guy. And I'm like, oh, sweetie, sure you 297 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.240 would have. Okay, sure, why not? We'll go with that. 298 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:31.759 So oh, I'm sorry U. Michael says, how dare you? 299 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:35.359 She ripped that giant toad up from the inside? I 300 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:41.039 forgot about that. Wasn't that really? Mostly mango? Though? What 301 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:43.799 am I thinking of? Was it the toad that was 302 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:47.880 at the four? Where was the toad that she ripped up? 303 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:54.400 I don't remember it? Does it was all mango? Says Michael. Okay, God, 304 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:59.720 the way that mam would like, uh huh okay, Michael says, 305 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.200 that took credit for it. Amazing. I forgot about that, 306 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:09.279 Thank you, Michael. So she comes out of this town 307 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:13.799 and she is just covered in muck, and she tells 308 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:19.519 them this town is full of dead people. It's really 309 00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:24.240 really bad. And you know, I've seen that there is 310 00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:27.640 a bear at least still alive that seems to be 311 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:31.039 like hiding in one of the pubs. But that's the 312 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:34.960 only person that's alive that I have seen. So they 313 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:40.680 make their way in very cautiously, and the stench is 314 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:47.680 so bad. There are all of these body parts all 315 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:51.680 over the place. And the pub that they go to, 316 00:22:52.079 --> 00:23:00.079 they find a bear like a woman who is the 317 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:04.519 wife of the proprietor, I guess, and she's there with 318 00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:09.880 her two sons and she's still hiding. Eventually, Carl gives 319 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:12.519 them access to their personal space that they can go 320 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:16.880 in there to hide, but they are very traumatized. Her 321 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:22.400 husband's claw is still locked on the doorframe that he 322 00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:25.759 was standing in when he tried to keep himself from 323 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:30.640 being yanked away and was apparently either pulled so hard 324 00:23:31.240 --> 00:23:35.640 or his wrist was chopped so that his claw like 325 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:40.200 remains wrapped around it, and later it drops to the 326 00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:42.799 ground and begins scuttling out the door, which is the 327 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:46.359 indication that some shit is happening now because the sun 328 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:53.799 is going down. We will get there shortly. First we 329 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:59.799 have to go to the convention and Carl gets whisked 330 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:04.079 to to the production facility, and the way that he 331 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:09.279 is treated is very, very different than the last time. 332 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:13.680 There's no camaraderie. There's a feeling almost of like maybe 333 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:17.200 somebody got wind of the fact that he made a 334 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:22.079 deal with the guy, and so now they're giving Carl 335 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:27.640 even less personal attention because they're trying to maintain tighter 336 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:31.519 security with him or something. I don't know, maybe a 337 00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:34.799 person like spotted the fact that he looted a bunch 338 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:37.319 more stuff than he should have been allowed to that like, 339 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.319 access to his personal space was turned on far enough 340 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:47.559 ahead of him leaving the the production facility that it's suspicious, 341 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:52.720 you know, or it may just be coincidental, who knows, 342 00:24:53.240 --> 00:25:00.519 But regardless, he gets transported to see the the pop 343 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.759 Off brothers in such a manner that he lands really 344 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:07.119 hard like on his side and it's so just a 345 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:14.359 you know, very undignified first meeting. So these guys are 346 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:21.559 called Maxim and what is the other guy's name. Oh 347 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.559 my god, I'm trying to find their names here. I 348 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:28.079 remembered Maxim because that one, for some reason, was like particular. Dimitri, 349 00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:36.079 that's the other one. So we don't get like the 350 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:45.000 details about the way that this accidentally happened are revealed 351 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:49.160 a little bit further on, because there's a kid at 352 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.960 the convention who's asking, like, was it really an accident? 353 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.799 Because I saw some clips of you guys before this 354 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:00.920 all went down, and the two of you were very 355 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:06.319 obsessed with a TV show about conjoined twins something like that. 356 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.920 So this kid is like trying to suggest that they're 357 00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:14.279 living out a weird fantasy that they had about being conjoined, 358 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:19.720 and it's just a bizarre assertion to make, and you know, like, 359 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:22.880 what are you hoping to accomplish, your kid? And when 360 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.599 they are like, shut the fuck up, dude and go away, 361 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:28.519 he's like, so you won't deny it that kind of shit. 362 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:35.119 But what we find out is that the guide that 363 00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:42.359 they had did not adequately informed them of the result 364 00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:45.680 of the class that they were picking or the race. 365 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:54.440 The race, so they were simply told, this choice will 366 00:26:54.480 --> 00:27:00.799 give you a second life. If not the video if 367 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:05.720 you are killed you will be regenerated and you will 368 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:15.039 get another shot at things. And I just can't imagine 369 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:23.680 being so completely misinformed that you wind up conjoined with 370 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:30.240 your brother, Like I if I were their guide, I'd 371 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:38.079 go into hiding. Like It's just it's either malicious intent 372 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:47.720 or the most profound negligence. It's like I can't imagine 373 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:51.200 either way. It's got to be one of those two. 374 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.359 And uh, yeah, I wonder about this just another example 375 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:01.839 about how like the person who who teaches you how 376 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:05.599 things work is so instrumental in the choices you make, 377 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:11.119 and you only have the information that they give you. You know, 378 00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.960 when they start this crawl, they don't get access to 379 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:19.200 a fucking wiki about it. It's they're just fully dependent 380 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:25.839 on their game guide. And even if they do get 381 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.759 a second chance that they're at a life, they actually 382 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:35.839 are like reborn as these weird toddlers, and they grow 383 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:39.799 quickly evidently, but like, it's not it makes it sound 384 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:44.200 like a cockroach ability, like what Doughnut has, Like it 385 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:49.160 was described to them that way. But then we find 386 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:55.119 this out, So there's even a question regarding like, okay, 387 00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.200 is the second life worthwhile? Are you actually going to 388 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.680 do anything with because if you are that vulnerable, then 389 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.079 you might just die a few minutes later than you 390 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:09.920 would have died. Anyway, how much of an advantage is 391 00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:14.039 it really, which there's you know, we don't know exactly 392 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:18.680 how this ability works. So if it's like you're reborn immediately, 393 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.839 I feel like that's not what you want, because you're 394 00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.359 reborn probably in the midst of a battle or something. 395 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.960 But if you're reborn like a few minutes afterwards, perhaps 396 00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:30.200 the creature that killed you or whatever it will have 397 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.400 moved on and you'll be born in a place that 398 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.759 is no longer occupied. That is something that's possible. I 399 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:43.559 guess there's just a lot of like variables in there 400 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.240 that we don't know about that make me wonder, Okay, 401 00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:51.880