Speaker 1: And hello, how are you?
Speaker 2: How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you. Welcome to the Big Podcast on
Speaker 1: this Wednesday, the twenty third day of July, Year of
Speaker 1: Our Lord, twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan.
Speaker 1: So we've got a trade deal with a big trade
Speaker 1: country talking about Japan. So I want to get into
Speaker 1: that with you today as well. That this kind of
Speaker 1: surprised because what was it a week or so ago
Speaker 1: they said, no, we're not getting anywhere with Japan. Japan
Speaker 1: is one of our biggest trading partners. So we'll fill
Speaker 1: you in on the detail there. The big sentencing of
Speaker 1: Brian Koberger. We've got a lot from that today. I
Speaker 1: mean we it went for hours, but we're not going
Speaker 1: to play that. But it was the day in which
Speaker 1: the families of the victims were able to address the
Speaker 1: court and address Brian Coberger. So it's it's it's interesting
Speaker 1: because there's lots of murders, sadly every day in America,
Speaker 1: but this one, I don't know the brutality of it,
Speaker 1: the innocence of the four college kids, the mystery of it.
Speaker 1: So we'll get we'll get into the Brian Colberger sentencing
Speaker 1: today or there was no surprise, and he was sentenced
Speaker 1: to life in prison four times over tariffs having some
Speaker 1: impact and Jeffrey Epstein a couple of people commenting about that.
Speaker 1: But that basically has been put on ice. I thought,
Speaker 1: until the Congress gets back to work. They're gone, they're
Speaker 1: on their August vacation. I know it's not August, but
Speaker 1: they think it is. So they've shut down, they've gone back. Well,
Speaker 1: they're going to probably hear about this when they get
Speaker 1: back to holding town halls or are they going to
Speaker 1: be afraid to hold town hall? So all of that
Speaker 1: in the in the show today. Let's let me start
Speaker 1: with the with Oh, let me start with this story
Speaker 1: out of La We know about the fires. They were
Speaker 1: the first week of January, wasn't it January fifth or
Speaker 1: something like that, And so here we are seven months later,
Speaker 1: and no, they promised that they would cut red tape
Speaker 1: and they were going to be able to get back
Speaker 1: in there and build their homes and all that sort
Speaker 1: of stuff. Well, people are moving in to Pacific Palisades
Speaker 1: and Alta Dina, but they're not the people that live there.
Speaker 1: And the government now wants to try and buy the
Speaker 1: properties because they want to make it low income housing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. No, no, no, It's one of
Speaker 1: the most valuable pieces of real estate in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: So let's start there. Because there's a guy who So, yeah,
Speaker 1: there was this guy, he's a building contractor in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and he got his phone out and started well kind
Speaker 1: of reporting on what's been going on in LA. The police,
Speaker 1: Sheriff's department, all of them are are overwhelmed, and squatters
Speaker 1: are starting to move into the property where these people
Speaker 1: had a home that burned down. Pacific Palisades particularly, but
Speaker 1: Altadena was also very expensive. We're talking multimillion dollar homes
Speaker 1: for a lot of them. There were also some older
Speaker 1: homes there that had been passed down through generations, so
Speaker 1: it wasn't all multi millionaires, but the property value was
Speaker 1: very high, especially Pacific Policas where you look out over
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean. So this contractor started looking around on
Speaker 1: what was going on, and apparently the Los Angeles Sheriff's
Speaker 1: office has talked to some of the survivors that homes
Speaker 1: are gone, addressing the fact that they got some squatters
Speaker 1: taking possession of these people's property. And so the sheriff
Speaker 1: Captain there said to owners, you better put up some
Speaker 1: sort of security fence because people are moving in. He
Speaker 1: thought you should get a four foot construction fence, put
Speaker 1: it around your property. So that the owners are being
Speaker 1: urged to fill out what's called a letter of agency.
Speaker 1: It gives the police power to boot somebody off your property.
Speaker 1: But most of these people are not living there anymore.
Speaker 1: They moved somewhere else and they're waiting for permission to
Speaker 1: go ahead and build. So's this guy is named Luke Melchior,
Speaker 1: and he has his camera out and he's reporting on
Speaker 1: what is going on to the poor property owners that
Speaker 1: had their homes burned down in La.
Speaker 3: Here is the latest insanity over here in the LA
Speaker 3: fire zones, Squatters are overtaking vacant lots that burn down,
Speaker 3: like this one right behind me. Here, this guy set
Speaker 3: up a whole camp site and I guess actually went
Speaker 3: down to the DMV listed this as his address on
Speaker 3: his driver's license, and the property owner can't get them off.
Speaker 3: The police even showed up and they said, we can't
Speaker 3: do anything about it.
Speaker 4: It's got to go to the courts. Here's another one
Speaker 4: right behind me.
Speaker 3: This is two right across the street from each other,
Speaker 3: squatters who have overtaken these properties, and the homeowners cannot
Speaker 3: get them off of the site. So if you're in
Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades or out to I'd get some security fencing
Speaker 3: up right away, or you might lose your property to
Speaker 3: a vagrant. And the county isn't going to do anything
Speaker 3: to help you.
Speaker 1: No, they're not, And they haven't done anything to help
Speaker 1: the victims of these fires. And you would think by now,
Speaker 1: seven months later, they'd be able to start the more
Speaker 1: than just start the process, they would have construction going
Speaker 1: by now. So Luke went into La apparently has some
Speaker 1: office they've set up called the one Stop Shop for
Speaker 1: people that were victims of the fire to come in,
Speaker 1: fill out the forums, get your building permit, and get
Speaker 1: going on rebuilding your home. I hope we can hear
Speaker 1: the official. But Luke sits down with one of the
Speaker 1: officials of this one stop shop and try to figure
Speaker 1: out whether or not he can get a home built
Speaker 1: there or not.
Speaker 3: All right, So I'm here at the City of La
Speaker 3: One Stop Rebuilding Center and I'm trying to get to
Speaker 3: the bottom of a couple things. Bass came out with
Speaker 3: a big press conference where she said we're going to
Speaker 3: waive all permit fees for Pacific Palisades fire victims. But
Speaker 3: we've submitted plans and we found out that those permit
Speaker 3: fees were not waived. So we're going to come here
Speaker 3: right to the source, and we're going to find out
Speaker 3: what's going on with that publicity stunt, she polds, And
Speaker 3: we're also going to try and find out exactly how
Speaker 3: many permits have been issued, because by the looks of it,
Speaker 3: things are going pretty slow.
Speaker 5: People have to see stuff getting done.
Speaker 6: So I saw Mayor Bass came out and was saying
Speaker 6: that all permit fees are going to be waived, But
Speaker 6: I don't think that's happened yet. We paid fees on
Speaker 6: a couple other permits. Yeah, is there going to be
Speaker 6: a refund on those?
Speaker 4: Or waved is not the correct word.
Speaker 6: They're suspended, Okay, as of right now, how long is
Speaker 6: it taking for once a plan reaches you guys, for
Speaker 6: it to be approved.
Speaker 4: Do you know what we can expect for the fire rebuilds?
Speaker 4: Who is kind of out of our hands. Do you
Speaker 4: know how many permits have been issued so far? Very
Speaker 4: very few.
Speaker 7: I don't have a statistics on that, very very hut.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you very much. You've been super helpful. I
Speaker 4: appreciate it. All right, So we.
Speaker 3: Just left the La City One Stop Rebuilding Center. So
Speaker 3: just because you haven't paid permit fees yet, you still
Speaker 3: may have to in the future. And for those of
Speaker 3: you who have paid permit fees, myself being one of those,
Speaker 3: you may or may not get a refund. So this
Speaker 3: was nothing more than a publicity's done and we can
Speaker 3: expect nothing else from Karen Bass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not happy. And I don't know if you
Speaker 1: could hear the official, but he goes, have they been waved?
Speaker 1: Is not the right word, suspended? Very bureaucrat about the word.
Speaker 1: And then how many have been how many permittive have
Speaker 1: you approved? Well, not very many. I don't have the number.
Speaker 1: So it's a mess, and it's it's one more nail,
Speaker 1: hopefully in the coffin for Karen Bass and her inability
Speaker 1: to run anything. And she's four. I mean, she's out
Speaker 1: there protesting for the illegals that are in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: She's don't do anything for them, but for the homeowners
Speaker 1: who paid the taxes that Heather House is burned down. Sorry,
Speaker 1: tough piece. That was all part of Hot Air today.
Speaker 1: If you want to go look and see more about
Speaker 1: that particular story. As far as the big breakthrough on
Speaker 1: trade with Japan, this is I don't know the tariffs are.
Speaker 1: Who knows what impact they're going to have. And when
Speaker 1: historically tariffs raise the cost of everything and it's inflationary,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean it has to be. And in
Speaker 1: this particular case, they our president announced last night that
Speaker 1: they've cut a new deal with Japan where Japan will
Speaker 1: pay fifteen percent on everything that they export to the
Speaker 1: United States and We'll pay fifteen percent on anything and
Speaker 1: everything we export to Japan. So it's a reciprocal fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: Here's a Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Bessant, talking about it.
Speaker 8: We had some discussions about the overall US Japan relationship,
Speaker 8: which was one of the strongest in the world when
Speaker 8: I was in Tokyo and Osaka, and then we got
Speaker 8: back their elections on Sunday, ledp did slightly better than expected.
Speaker 8: They don't have a majority.
Speaker 4: Japanese government was ready to.
Speaker 8: Deal and as president only President Trump could do. He
Speaker 8: brought the Japanese trade delegation into the Oval and had
Speaker 8: a very fullsome negotiation with them, and I tell you
Speaker 8: they're tough negotiators for President Trump's tougher. Well, I think
Speaker 8: it's very important to note that fifteen percent for Japan
Speaker 8: for reciprocal tarists for autos, that is a different kind
Speaker 8: of deal. But because the Japanese proposed a very innovative solution.
Speaker 8: We've been working with them for months, the trade team, myself,
Speaker 8: Ambassador Greer, Secretary Lutnik, and they came to us with
Speaker 8: the idea of a Japan US partnership where they are
Speaker 8: going to provide equity credit guarantees and funding for major
Speaker 8: projects in the US. So they got the fifteen percent
Speaker 8: rate because they were willing to provide this innovative financing mechanism.
Speaker 1: Not about you, but I'm scratching my head at this
Speaker 1: point because it sounds like and by the way, the
Speaker 1: auto Japanese auto stocks shot up about eleven percent this
Speaker 1: month when Wall Street opened. But they it sounds like
Speaker 1: they are going to basically build more auto assembly plants
Speaker 1: here in the United States, but they're going to be
Speaker 1: owned by Japanese companies. They will provide the financing to
Speaker 1: build them. And that's fine because if we got into
Speaker 1: a tip with Japan down the road. The factories would
Speaker 1: be here, the jobs would be here. So it's it's good,
Speaker 1: but it's not exactly US companies bringing their jobs back
Speaker 1: to the United States. It is Japanese companies investing more
Speaker 1: in making things here in the US. That's what I
Speaker 1: got out of it. But UAW is not all that
Speaker 1: happy with this thing. Here's Tony, Tony Toddy, who is
Speaker 1: the president of one of the UAW locals representing General
Speaker 1: motors workers. Here's Tony.
Speaker 9: You know, we don't it's at first Lance, I don't
Speaker 9: like the deal. You know, Japan doesn't import many US vehicles.
Speaker 9: Last year it was around sixteen thousand, where we take
Speaker 9: in forty billion dollars of their imports. So you know,
Speaker 9: even if you say fifteen percent to fifteen percent, it's
Speaker 9: still not a good deal for US. I think this
Speaker 9: is a better deal for US rice producers than it
Speaker 9: is the US auto worker. Well, we need the next
Speaker 9: deals to be better, especially with China because they're making
Speaker 9: a lot of electric vehicles and they could flood our
Speaker 9: market and wipe us out. So they need to be
Speaker 9: much pleugher on China. And you know, we're worried about
Speaker 9: the Mexico Canada deal. You know, this is essentially setting
Speaker 9: the bar very low at fifteen percent, and that could
Speaker 9: set the bar for them. We don't like that, and
Speaker 9: we look at the health of the companies. You know,
Speaker 9: ten to twenty percent of our big three salaries come
Speaker 9: from profit sharing, and when you look at Stalanis, who
Speaker 9: reported negative numbers, they're not going to receive that strong
Speaker 9: profit sharing check next year. So that plays into it
Speaker 9: as well. You know, we actually need a strong trade
Speaker 9: deal because these tariffs could go away overnight and we
Speaker 9: need to replace it with the deal. But it needs
Speaker 9: to be better than the Japanese deal.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 9: You know, fortunately for US, General Motors is doing a
Speaker 9: good job of reinvesting into the US market. They just
Speaker 9: recently announced four billion dollars of new investment. You know,
Speaker 9: Stalanis is bringing back the Bove Deer facility that'll be
Speaker 9: up in twenty seventeen, up and running, i believe.
Speaker 4: And here in Toledo we.
Speaker 9: Just received a two hundred million dollar investment to increase
Speaker 9: our capacity for our popular selling trucks. So that's all good.
Speaker 9: And we're working with General Motors as the UAW to
Speaker 9: make more investments. So that's a good thing, and I
Speaker 9: think that's because some of the tariffs are incentivizing the
Speaker 9: work to come back here. We're only five to six
Speaker 9: center the cost of the vehicle, and when you think
Speaker 9: about that and the high tariffs that you have to pay,
Speaker 9: it just makes more sense to bring the work back.
Speaker 9: So we're advocating for the administration to make better deals
Speaker 9: with China, especially in Mexico and Canada. Well, with the
Speaker 9: cost of vehicles at all time high, I don't see
Speaker 9: how you could pass it on to the consumer without
Speaker 9: impacting the equilibrium point, and it'll start to decrease sales. So,
Speaker 9: you know, the quicker we get to a good trade
Speaker 9: deal where everybody understands the rules of engagement, the better
Speaker 9: off we are. But this was going to be disruptive
Speaker 9: and they need to start bringing product back to this country.
Speaker 9: This is the largest auto market in the world and
Speaker 9: the barriers for entry need to be much higher to
Speaker 9: these countries.
Speaker 1: Okay, So he said he's not happy with the deal,
Speaker 1: but he and he represents UAW employees that worked for
Speaker 1: General Motors. General Motors announced yesterday they came out with
Speaker 1: their quarterly earnings and they they rode off one point
Speaker 1: one billion dollars in losses over the tariffs. And the
Speaker 1: reason they rode them off was they are eating the
Speaker 1: tariffs to the tune of in three months one point
Speaker 1: one billion for General Motors. That's a pretty big expense,
Speaker 1: but they're what they're trying to do is keep the
Speaker 1: sales going by not raising prices on the automobiles that
Speaker 1: they make and just eat the one point one billion.
Speaker 1: How long they can do that, not forever. They're talking
Speaker 1: about by the end of this year, the tariffs will
Speaker 1: cost General Motors four to five billion dollars and again
Speaker 1: that that just cannot continue. Stillantus, which makes Chrysler, they
Speaker 1: said that they had to take a hit of three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million in the quarter for the tariffs
Speaker 1: hitting them. So Japan was twenty four percent. Now it's
Speaker 1: fifteen percent, but that's only on well it's everything except
Speaker 1: steel and aluminum. So the steel and aluminum tariffs for
Speaker 1: Japan is still both of them are fifty percent. We'll
Speaker 1: see how long this can go. But they got a
Speaker 1: trade deal with Japan, and that is what the White
Speaker 1: House was trying to get to. So let's get to
Speaker 1: the story. That really ate up the Newsboro today, and
Speaker 1: that was the sentencing of Brian Coberger in Boise, Idaho,
Speaker 1: for the murderer of the four Idaho College students two
Speaker 1: and a half years ago, November of twenty two. And
Speaker 1: this is one of those stories that has captured the
Speaker 1: nation's attention. He was expected and did receive life sentences
Speaker 1: for all four murders. He five out of eight parents
Speaker 1: apparently finally came around and said, okay, we accept the
Speaker 1: deal because if we had a trial, there would be
Speaker 1: all kinds of appeals, and then if he got the
Speaker 1: death sentence from that, they would that would go on
Speaker 1: to appeals for a long time. So five out of
Speaker 1: eight parents said, okay, we'll go for that. The only
Speaker 1: family that wasn't there were the Chapin family. Ethan Chapin
Speaker 1: was the guy that was there and was killed. So
Speaker 1: it went for quite a while. Every victim could could
Speaker 1: have four people address the court and address Brian Colberger.
Speaker 1: Coberger was in his orange jail suit. He's no longer
Speaker 1: wearing civilian clothes and he's been shipped off this afternoon
Speaker 1: to the Idaho State Penitentiary. So you won't see him
Speaker 1: again maybe, but he had no expression. He just sat there.
Speaker 1: There was not an ounce of expression from him. Mark Iglarsh,
Speaker 1: who was a defense lawyer out of Miami, had this
Speaker 1: observation about what went what was going to happen today
Speaker 1: in Idaho.
Speaker 7: Well, nothing's going to change. You know, the state's laying
Speaker 7: out a case for life sentences. A judge isn't going
Speaker 7: to magically say I'm going to reject this. The state
Speaker 7: can then say fine, we'll take death off the table,
Speaker 7: and the defend will just plead guilty. So that's not
Speaker 7: going to change. It's the opportunity for healing. It's allowing
Speaker 7: people to put words to my greatest nightmare that somebody
Speaker 7: would ever harm any of my precious offspring somehow connecting
Speaker 7: and expressing publicly what that means to them. That's what
Speaker 7: today's about, Jess. They need to be heard. They need
Speaker 7: to tell that person what they did to that family
Speaker 7: and how it affected them. Listen, You're never going to
Speaker 7: see any reaction from Coburger. We saw what he did
Speaker 7: during this the plea, the change of plea. He accepted
Speaker 7: responsibility and said that he murdered each of those people
Speaker 7: in the same manner in which I order a sandwich.
Speaker 7: There was no effect, no accountability, no remorse because he's
Speaker 7: a psychopath, right, you cannot relate to that human being.
Speaker 1: So true. And Mark's been around the block as a
Speaker 1: defense lawyer for a long time and has seen this.
Speaker 1: He even said, you'll see as much emotion from him
Speaker 1: as the chair that he's sitting in. There's no emotion.
Speaker 1: He's a psychopath. And he just sat there during the trial,
Speaker 1: but again or during the sentencing. But again, this was
Speaker 1: for the families, and some of the families lashed out
Speaker 1: at him and called them every name under the book.
Speaker 1: Some of them were religious in nature, saying that Jesus
Speaker 1: will forgive him. And it was all over the map
Speaker 1: as far as the family's reaction to talking to this guy.
Speaker 1: But they're all still devastated. It's been two and a
Speaker 1: half years. But the sad part about all this is
Speaker 1: is that the agreement was that he would plead guilty
Speaker 1: if they took the death penalty off, and that he
Speaker 1: will not appeal any part of this. Well, back to Mark,
Speaker 1: Iglarsh says, yeah, well, listen to what the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: said about the right of appeal.
Speaker 7: I think they're not telling the public that there's a
Speaker 7: Supreme Court case called Garza versus Idaho decided in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 7: where the court ruled that even when somebody waives their
Speaker 7: right to an appeal in court, they can still file
Speaker 7: an appeal down the road. And I'll go one step further.
Speaker 7: The attorney who fails to file those paperwork on the
Speaker 7: appeal is committing malpractice. Essentially, they said, you're rendering ineffective
Speaker 7: assistance of counsel.
Speaker 4: So you're saying regardless, Today may not be the end
Speaker 4: of all of this.
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm almost certain that at some point Hill allege
Speaker 7: my attorneys didn't do what they were supposed to, and
Speaker 7: he's allowed to file that, so he's not waving his
Speaker 7: right to an appeal.
Speaker 1: I played part of the state had their chance to
Speaker 1: address the court. This is the district attorney for Latta County.
Speaker 1: What's his name, Bill Thompson, And he gave a long
Speaker 1: argument with the court. Here's just part of it, as
Speaker 1: he laid out the fact that he and his prosecution
Speaker 1: team had to make a decision about whether or not
Speaker 1: to get a plea deal from him in exchange for
Speaker 1: the death penalty, and knowing that the families were not
Speaker 1: all going to agree to it. Here's Bill Thompson.
Speaker 5: We had no qualms about going to trial if trial
Speaker 5: was what was necessary and appropriate. The following week after
Speaker 5: we were in court, we were approached by the defense
Speaker 5: with an inquiry about a possible plea. And I can
Speaker 5: tell the court this is the first suggestion ever that
Speaker 5: there was any consideration, because indeed the defense had maintained
Speaker 5: from the beginning that mister Cobert, the defendant, was factually innocent.
Speaker 5: It's clear that the reality of the evidence and the
Speaker 5: case that had been investigated and prepared and that we
Speaker 5: were ready to present in court became a reality. Our reaction,
Speaker 5: among other things, was to reach out to all the families,
Speaker 5: and in fact, later that week, on Thursday and Friday
Speaker 5: of that last week of June, we met with representatives
Speaker 5: by teams virtual meetings with representatives of all the families,
Speaker 5: and we talked about the status of the case and
Speaker 5: the upcoming trial and things that related to the trial.
Speaker 5: And we also let them know that there had been
Speaker 5: an inquiry about whether there might be an offer for
Speaker 5: a flea. And we asked the family members for their
Speaker 5: thoughts and feelings, and they were candid and they have
Speaker 5: been candid since and we respect that, and we understand,
Speaker 5: recognize and acknowledge that there was a difference of opinion
Speaker 5: among representatives of the different families. We understand that one
Speaker 5: of the challenges of this case. One of the unique
Speaker 5: things about this case is we have multiple victims, each
Speaker 5: unique unto themselves, their families and friends, unique unto themselves,
Speaker 5: and all of them entitled to their opinions, all of
Speaker 5: them entitled to their thoughts. Over the following weekend, our
Speaker 5: prosecution team, very skilled attorneys who were personally as well
Speaker 5: as professionally deeply invested in this case, met and we talked,
Speaker 5: and the decision was reached. To start with, were there
Speaker 5: to be any sort of plea offer or discussion, there's
Speaker 5: only one possibility That would be for the defendant to
Speaker 5: plead guilty straight up to all charges. There would need
Speaker 5: be no bargaining abound to counts, there would be no
Speaker 5: bargaining about reduced sentences. And so we made the proposal
Speaker 5: to the defense that if the defendant was willing to
Speaker 5: plead guilty upfront to all five counts is charged and
Speaker 5: waive appeal of the court's myriad decisions during the past
Speaker 5: two and a half plus years on all these motions
Speaker 5: that would have consumed years, if not decades of time
Speaker 5: in the future. By the end of the weekend we
Speaker 5: were notified the defendant was prepared to plead guilty as
Speaker 5: charged and factually acknowledge his responsibility in court for these
Speaker 5: horrible crimes. Obviously, those discussions and negotiations were confidential, and
Speaker 5: as your honor noted, I believe that was necessarily so
Speaker 5: because if the defendant had decided not to plead guilty,
Speaker 5: it would have been devastating to our jury pool for
Speaker 5: there to be public information that there had been consideration
Speaker 5: by either party to a plea resolution, and protecting the
Speaker 5: perspective integrity of a trial after so many years was paramount.
Speaker 5: So the end of the weekend came, we notified the
Speaker 5: victims' families of what had occurred. We recognize, I recognize
Speaker 5: and acknowledge personally, and I respect the fact that of
Speaker 5: these fine suffering people here, not everybody agreed with the
Speaker 5: decision we make. I accept that it's my responsibility the end,
Speaker 5: I recognize that that's the duty of the office that
Speaker 5: I hold.
Speaker 1: So it was interesting because of the fact that he
Speaker 1: said that they agreed to Coburger would wave the right
Speaker 1: to appeal, and yet Mark Iglarsh said that there is
Speaker 1: an idle whole case that said that you can't wave
Speaker 1: the right to appeal. So I don't think this is
Speaker 1: over yet. I just don't. Nancy Grace not only does
Speaker 1: she do a lot of crime stories on TV, but
Speaker 1: she was also her fiance was murdered. She is she
Speaker 1: speaks as the victim of a murder victim. Let's see
Speaker 1: what Nancy has to say.
Speaker 11: Number one again, when you don't know a horse, look
Speaker 11: at his track record throughout all of these proceedings, months, months, months, years,
Speaker 11: Coburger sits there with no expression on his face at all.
Speaker 11: That's what he's going to do today. People talk about closure,
Speaker 11: that the parents and the families are going to get
Speaker 11: closure today, they're not. As a crime victim, a tangential
Speaker 11: victim of murder. I can tell you there is no closure.
Speaker 11: And if they expect for Brian Coburger to show any
Speaker 11: emotion or remorse, that's not gonna happen. And if he does, Harris,
Speaker 11: it will be a lie. He has lied throughout the
Speaker 11: entire proceedings, as has his lawyers, and they were set
Speaker 11: to pin for murders on friends of the victims. That
Speaker 11: was their big defense. Okay, they were gonna lie through
Speaker 11: their teeth the whole way. A. I don't think he's
Speaker 11: going to all acute or speak. If he did, it
Speaker 11: would be a lie. And the victim's families are going
Speaker 11: to walk out of that courtroom feeling empty because there's
Speaker 11: no trial and they will never know what happened. I've
Speaker 11: looked at the evidence, and now that more evidence is
Speaker 11: chickling out. There is an eyewitness that places a door
Speaker 11: desk driver that places coburger there at this scene in
Speaker 11: the parking lot. At the murder scene, we find out
Speaker 11: that Xana Krenodle was alive. She had just gotten her
Speaker 11: door dash order. She was attacked viciously. She didn't die
Speaker 11: in her sleep the way we've been told. We're learning
Speaker 11: so much more. I mean, to me, this case is
Speaker 11: like shooting a fish in a barrel, and the only
Speaker 11: reason it didn't go forward is because the prosecution didn't
Speaker 11: have the backbone to get in the courtroom and fight,
Speaker 11: win or lose. That's what I think. Weird What you
Speaker 11: do with the witness like that is you use corroboration.
Speaker 11: In other words, was she the driver that night, Yes
Speaker 11: she was. Was she at that location at that time,
Speaker 11: yes she was. Was there an order for Xana Crenodle,
Speaker 11: Yes there was. Because all of that corroborates her, and
Speaker 11: it's not just her. There are cams out the Ying
Speaker 11: Yang showing him. They are all around the area. And
Speaker 11: if you think he's going to stand up in court
Speaker 11: and say, yes, I'm murdered four people because I had
Speaker 11: a kinky fetish about raping women that were passed out
Speaker 11: or drugged, that's not going to happen. I know, not
Speaker 11: going to happen, and the parents are going to sit there,
Speaker 11: hear nothing and walk out of the courtroom and go Okay,
Speaker 11: that's over. No, it doesn't work like that. Think about
Speaker 11: your children, you think about Christmas, Easter, summer vacation.
Speaker 4: You spin it out.
Speaker 11: You spin it out for the rest of your life.
Speaker 11: You know what they've got. They have the chance to
Speaker 11: go in a courtroom and give a victim impact statement.
Speaker 11: I'm very angry about it, and we'll never know what
Speaker 11: happened because there's no trial.
Speaker 1: So the question is will Brian Colber appeal down the
Speaker 1: road even though he said he would not. The other
Speaker 1: question is what's going to happen to him in prison.
Speaker 1: There is a former FBI agent, her name is Nicole Parker,
Speaker 1: had this assessment of what he's facing well starting this afternoon.
Speaker 12: My personal opinion, I think he's going to get roughed
Speaker 12: up in that prison system. There's one thing that they
Speaker 12: do not like, and when you kill youth that is
Speaker 12: just disgusting, even to the most horrible prisoners. I think
Speaker 12: he gets roughed up. This is known to be a
Speaker 12: very dangerous and violent prison that he will be going to,
Speaker 12: and you know what, he might wish that he had
Speaker 12: taken the death penalty after that.
Speaker 1: So from here we hopefully bid farewell to Brian Colberger
Speaker 1: will find it. Hopefully he's just out of the news
Speaker 1: and we never hear or see from him again. But again,
Speaker 1: that waiver of appeal thing is a big surprise that
Speaker 1: I heard this afternoon. Hope you're surprised too. So with that, well,
Speaker 1: let's get some phone calls in. The phone number to
Speaker 1: join the program, not to join the program, but to
Speaker 1: leave your messages to the comment line is eight five
Speaker 1: five two nine five sixty six hundred eight five five
Speaker 1: two nine five. I have sixty six hundred. If you
Speaker 1: forget the number, you can find my phone number and
Speaker 1: links to the podcast and my email address. It's all
Speaker 1: on my website, which is Tom Sullivan dot com. Let's
Speaker 1: see who do we start with today? How about phone
Speaker 1: call from Pierre?
Speaker 10: Hey, Tom, this is Pierre. Never got a chance to
Speaker 10: call you when you were in New York, really enjoying
Speaker 10: your new podcast, except that'd be a butt there, right.
Speaker 10: I find your break for commercials to be really harsh.
Speaker 10: You're right in the middle of a word and suddenly
Speaker 10: you'll break to a commercial.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any way you can get
Speaker 2: to the end of a fought, an end of a
Speaker 2: moment before you go.
Speaker 10: To commercial, that would really be nice.
Speaker 2: It's really just jarring almost to the way you do
Speaker 2: it now. Other than that, Hey, I'm enjoying the show
Speaker 2: well as I always have. Look forward to you listening
Speaker 2: to Thank you.
Speaker 1: So, Pierre. A couple of things. Number One, I'm still
Speaker 1: in New York. I don't know, I know, I don't
Speaker 1: say where I am, but I'm still in Midtown Manhattan.
Speaker 1: I'm doing the podcast out of the same studio that
Speaker 1: I did the tell of the radio show. So nothing's
Speaker 1: changed there as far as the commercials, I hear you, man,
Speaker 1: I hear you a loud and clear the most. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any exceptions to this. All of
Speaker 1: the podcast platforms where if you want to start a podcast,
Speaker 1: there's I don't know, half a dozen, maybe a dozen
Speaker 1: companies that offer that. Only a handful, like four or
Speaker 1: five are really good at what they do, and they
Speaker 1: all plug in commercials. I don't put the commercials in.
Speaker 1: I have nothing to say about it. When we record
Speaker 1: the podcast, we uplink it to the podcast company and
Speaker 1: they have some problem. I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: many podcasts they have, but in the total podcast business
Speaker 1: there's like a million podcasts out there, so they insert them,
Speaker 1: probably by some sort of computer algorithm. I know. I
Speaker 1: don't like it either. I've talked to them about it,
Speaker 1: and I've got to work for them to try to
Speaker 1: figure out a way that I can somehow being involved
Speaker 1: in putting it at the end of a thought, because yeah,
Speaker 1: it is rather jarring. I'm with you. I don't know
Speaker 1: when I can get that fixed, but it's kind of
Speaker 1: sadly part of the podcast world. The other way to
Speaker 1: do it is to do what we call live reads
Speaker 1: where an advertiser wants me to read their advertisement, maybe
Speaker 1: that would be easier. My only hang up with that
Speaker 1: is I don't like to imply that I'm endorsing a
Speaker 1: particular product, and I think you do that when you
Speaker 1: read a commercial as opposed to one just just playing.
Speaker 1: All right, what else we got here? Oh, Steven, I
Speaker 1: think I got another complaint from Steven. Let's see what
Speaker 1: he has to say.
Speaker 13: All right, Tom Student is calling a great podcast, as
Speaker 13: always in your show. Was My call is about why
Speaker 13: do you always take CNN polls? CNN is liberal garbage
Speaker 13: media which not very many people even watch. You don't
Speaker 13: have their your ratings, so I always take their polls.
Speaker 13: You should take polls from somewhere else people would actually matters.
Speaker 13: Thanks Tom By.
Speaker 1: All right, I told you I would take complaints or
Speaker 1: or constructive criticism, whatever you like to call it. But Steven,
Speaker 1: first of all, I take polls from all the major
Speaker 1: polling companies. I am constantly when there's new polls out
Speaker 1: Box news poll I do theirs. Quinnipia, I do theirs. Emerson,
Speaker 1: I do theirs. I mean I go down the list
Speaker 1: and CNN. Yes, I do theirs as well. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing about polls. Just because it's a CNN poll,
Speaker 1: it's not done by CNN, and it's not polling the
Speaker 1: people that watch CNN, just like the Fox News poll
Speaker 1: run by a woman named Diane Blanton, and she's great,
Speaker 1: but she doesn't They don't do just surveying Fox News viewers.
Speaker 1: These media companies that have polls go out and hire
Speaker 1: professional polling companies that statistically go through the process of
Speaker 1: getting information from the general population. And they've got all
Speaker 1: their you know, making sure they got the right balance,
Speaker 1: not too many Democrats, not too many Republicans, not too
Speaker 1: many old, not too many young. They go through all
Speaker 1: the demographics and make sure they have a legitimate poll
Speaker 1: use them all. And I use Real Clear Politics, was
Speaker 1: has all the polling in it because I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I hope you understand I'm not using CNN polls. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe you got that Because of Harry Entton. I have
Speaker 1: high regard for Harry Innton. I was introduced him to
Speaker 1: him by Chris Steerwaal when we were both working at Fox,
Speaker 1: and he was telling me about Enton and what a
Speaker 1: great statistical guy he is. He's just a numbers guy.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what his politics are, but Harry
Speaker 1: is a character and he delivers I think the information
Speaker 1: about whatever he's pulling in a very entertaining way. So
Speaker 1: I do introduce him as CNN statistical guys. But it's
Speaker 1: not CNN's poll. In fact, if you watch Harry Innton,
Speaker 1: he will say, uh, this poll from Associated Press, this
Speaker 1: poll from ABC, this poll from NBC, this pool he had.
Speaker 1: He does the same thing I do. He uses all
Speaker 1: kinds of posters to come up with what the what
Speaker 1: the what the results are from uh one particular question
Speaker 1: being asked out in the country. And finally we will
Speaker 1: get the comment line. Lady in here Laurie always checks
Speaker 1: in short and sweet as usual.
Speaker 10: Did Stephen Colbert hire Hunter Biden to write his material?
Speaker 2: That's great?
Speaker 1: That that's just great. You get it. Because Stephen Colbert
Speaker 1: was dropping f bombs the other night.
Speaker 4: You go, what's wrong?
Speaker 1: What's what's with all these people, especially on the left,
Speaker 1: that are swearing like banshees. I don't know what is
Speaker 1: that a new cool thing? In any case, Stephen Colbert
Speaker 1: dropping f bombs And the other day we played an
Speaker 1: interview part of it interview with Hunter Biden, and I've
Speaker 1: never heard anybody drop the F bombs so many times
Speaker 1: in the same sentence. It's amazing. So I get it, Laurie,
Speaker 1: that was funny. Let's see what the markets did today.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me pull it up. So wow, people
Speaker 1: liked the idea that we have a trade deal with Japan.
Speaker 1: That's got a babe. It started the markets off close,
Speaker 1: but we are not quite at a record, but we're
Speaker 1: back about forty five thousand. I think the record was
Speaker 1: forty five thousand, five hundred something. But the market today
Speaker 1: up five hundred and seven to close it forty five
Speaker 1: thousand and ten. The S and P up forty nine,
Speaker 1: new record, Nasdaq up one hundred twenty seven. I believe
Speaker 1: that's a new record. The price of gold felt forty
Speaker 1: two dollars, down to thirty four oh one. It's been
Speaker 1: climbing rapidly, so some profit taking going on there today
Speaker 1: in the price of oil down another almost dollar, down
Speaker 1: to sixty five dollars and some change. So that's it
Speaker 1: for today. Thank you for coming by. We'll try it
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. I hope to see you them