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Speaker 1: Lions and tigers and bears. Oh my wait, wrong creatures.

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This week, Jason and d are doing a deep dive

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on a van surfing basketball playing teenage werewolf versus a

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group of classic movie monsters on the hunt for a

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magic amulet who will come out on top. Grab your

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silver bullets, garlic, wooden steaks, and holy water and join

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the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast as they discussed

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nineteen eighty fives teen Wolf and nineteen eighty sevens Monster Squad.

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And remember, if all else fails, kick him in the nards.

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Speaker 2: All right, D, I got three piece of advice for

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you before we start the podcast today. Number one, never

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get less than twelve hours of sleep. Number two, never

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play cards with a guy whose first name is a city.

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And number three, never go near a lady with a

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tattoo of a dagger on her body. You stick with

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those three things, and everything else is cream cheese.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Shirley you Can't Be Serious Podcast, everybody.

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We are here today for our special annual Halloween episode,

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and have we got a couple of very special movies

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for you guys. These are a couple of movies that

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you could sit down with your little kids and watch.

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I mean, I would go so far as to say

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nine ten years old totally fine watching these movies.

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Speaker 2: What do you think For the most part, I think

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there's a couple of things in Teenwolf that might you

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might want to keep away from your ten year old.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, there's some closet and jello moments that maybe

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you're a little advanced, but probably less than anything they've

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seen in TikTok. Guys, we are talking today about two movies,

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one from nineteen eighty five, one from nineteen eighty seven,

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first one being Teen Wolf and the second being The

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Monster Squad. Man.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about these two movies because

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both of these have a special place in my heart.

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Speaker 3: So did you watch these movies in the theater? I

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saw Teen Wolf in the theater for sure. Okay, yeah,

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well so, yeah, one hundred percent. Like I was right

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after Back of the Future, I was Michael I probably

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even before, but I was Michael J. Fox obsessed at

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that point. So I absolutely saw Teen Wolf in the theater.

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theater as well. Yeah, it was because my brother was

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going to go see The Lost Boys and I was

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not allowed to watch that because that was a rated

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R scary movie. But this was basically the next best thing.

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I mean, you still got at least one vampire that

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you've got in this movie. I remember it, and I

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remember liking it very well, and then it just disappeared.

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I was just like, why don't I ever hear about

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this movie anymore? And unfortunately, at that time in my life,

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I didn't have HBO, and so you know, I had

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friends who had seen it on HBO and they liked it.

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was no VHS. It was a bummer.

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Speaker 2: I saw it on HBO. And it's funny that you

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mentioned the Lost Boys because that, in my opinion, is

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one of two movie reasons why the Monster Squad got buried. Yes,

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you want to go ahe and tell you what, sure,

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all right? So so for me that summer of nineteen

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eighty seven, the Lost Boys came out at the very

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end of July, which the public said, this is awesome.

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We want cool teenage badass vampires. Yep, we don't want

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the little rascals. At that time, yeah, I mean, this

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movie bombed at the theaters. And I found its audience later,

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which I think is super cool.

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Speaker 3: I said, do you like we've this is a kind

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of a unique circumstance because because we really have two movies,

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one which probably shouldn't have made it but did, and

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one that probably should have made it but didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: If you look at Monster Squad and you look at Goonies,

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which came out just a couple of years before, I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's just yeah, it's basically the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got the same mom.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mary Elin Trainer.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, I asked you, Mary Allen Trador hot, not.

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Speaker 3: Hot, not hot, not hot. I have to disagree with

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Speaker 2: That, hey, Roberts a Mechis thought she was hot. Well,

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kind of interesting that Roberts a Mechis back to the future,

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Speaker 3: There's all kinds of overlap with not only these movies,

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Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, speaking of a movie that we

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talked about in the past, the other movie that buried

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Speaker 3: Yes, is Dirty Dancing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, of course, sure, in between Lost Boys and

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Dirty Dancing, and there's a brief moment in time where

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you could get a hit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it it didn't happen. I'm gonna go so

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far as to say that had they changed their marketing tactic,

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this movie would have been a success. But I think

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they they did an absolute dismal failure on marketing this movie,

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and so it didn't have time to gain momentum and

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build up the following in the theater because it was

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in and out so quickly.

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Speaker 2: You mentioning that is very curious because one of these

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movies was marketed poorly and did poorly, and the other

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one was maybe marketed the greatest of all.

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and we can talk more about this later. But right

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like six months before Lethal Weapon came out. If your

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advertising campaign is The Monster Squad by the writer of

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Lethal Weapon, you got a million more people that are

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going to come see that movie. Yeah. I don't understand

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that at all. No me neither, poor, poor job. Yeah, okay,

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Well let's jump into how these movies got started and

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uh and enjoy the ride.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, all right, all right, so we talked about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's the ride, right. I mean, you've got

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to go surfing, right, we got to go. I gotta

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go do some vandsurfing.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's gone siff and you got.

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Speaker 3: Your body surf shop shirt on. I have my teen

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Wolf and my little funko pop guy over here. By

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the way, if we make it through the entire podcast

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without knocking him over, it is a success win by

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Mesh when by both of us. Yep, okay, So teen Wolf.

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Speaker 4: Well, for one thing, you're gonna be able to do

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Speaker 1: Aren't, oh like, uh, chase cars and bite the mailman.

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Speaker 3: Got to start with the rider. You know, the guy

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that came up with the idea. We've talked about him before.

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his name, are gonna be like, oh, I didn't know

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he wrote this, but they will remember that we have

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talked about him before. So the guy who wrote this

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is named Jeff Lobe. Okay, and when I said something

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to you like as we always do. I'm driving and

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talking to you and you're like, I remember that name.

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I'm like, well, good, I'm glad that you can not

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remember it, so that I know it's okay to tell

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you guys about it again. So, Jeff Looeb was famous

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in comic books. First, he I mean he was involved

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he had been involved with comic books, and this was

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the first film script that he ever wrote, or at

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least the first one that ever got made into a movie.

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The Batman Okay, because Matt Reeves was a student in

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Jeff Loeb's writing class. He had a screenwriting class and

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Matt Reeves, who directed The Batman, was in that class. Now, interestingly,

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matt reeves first script that got made into a movie

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was Under Siege two, which he was embarrassed by. Hey,

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but I mean he was trying to he was trying

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to do kind of a die hard knockoff and they

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put it on a boat or whatever, you know, die

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one that modified it after it had been acquired, and

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it was his. It was Jeff Loebe's finished product that

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became the actual under Siege movie. That and all of

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the stupid stuff that Steven Sigall wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I've seen Underseags two. Let me just say this.

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I'm just gonna put this out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Under Siege one, Yeah, very enjoyable, fun action movie. Steven Sagall,

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Tommy Lee Jones, Gary Busey, Erica Alaniac, It's it's great.

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Speaker 3: Under Siege two you.

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Speaker 2: Actually get a young Catherine Heigel.

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Speaker 3: It's terrible.

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Speaker 2: It's it's terrible.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this is the first script that Jeff Loeb

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has that's made into a movie. He's been a comic

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book guy. And we talked about him when we talked

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him earlier this year.

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Speaker 2: It dawned on me after we hung up the phone

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what it was.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember now?

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Speaker 3: Commando is correct? Now? Do you remember that who Commando

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the comic books Sergei Rock, Sergeant Rock, Who Sergeant Rock

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is the comic book that a character? And Predator Another

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Speaker 2: That is Shane Black who wrote Muster Squad. There you go,

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all right, so isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 3: That's crazy? Okay? Yes, So Jeff Loeb writes the script

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for Teenwolf, but he has a partner, you guts a

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story on that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I found this really interesting. They actually broke

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with the guys who wrote this, they were fresh out

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Speaker 3: First of all, let me back up.

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Speaker 2: They were invited to pitch movie ideas to Atlantic. Atlantic

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mega cheap that would make you know, big bucks. Seems

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like a brilliant idea. So they came in. They were

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invited to pitch ideas. They came in, they pitched about

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one of those things where it's like we think, you know,

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die hard on a ship, you know, Okay, you know,

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they say we want you to make one.

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Speaker 3: You know. He's like, oh, what is it? What is it?

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Speaker 2: And they're like teen Wolf and he's like oh, he

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of those ten. So he called his friend Matthew Wiseman,

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Speaker 3: And Matthew's like what they say? What they say?

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Speaker 4: The one they chose.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, it was interesting. Those so Jeff Lobes said

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in a script about fifty things or so happen. Okay,

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would give the cards to Matthew, and then Matthew would

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kind of weave the things together and he would write

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the dialogue. And this is the cool part. So they

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would chase each other through the script. So he'd give

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him like ten ideas and then Matthew would write like

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ten pages, so he'd give the pages to Jeff. Jeff

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would give him ten more things, and then Jeff would

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like kind of go over what his screenplay was, and

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they just kind of weaved it together.

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Speaker 3: And you know, that's a great team right there. Yeah.

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I thought it was cool.

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need this back in three weeks, and we also need

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you guys to do it for about four thousand dollars.

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four grand three weeks. With a work split between two people.

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Speaker 2: They were even producers for a time, like before, they

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had brought on producers for the movie they would be.

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Speaker 3: So I got the story on the director. If you

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want that, sure tell me. Okay, okay. So the director

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is a guy named Rod Daniel. Okay. Now, he grew

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up in Tennessee. His dad was a doctor, actually was

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the founder of one of the founders of the Board

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of Thoracic Surgery. It was totally expected that Rod was

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going to go to school and also be a doctor.

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I don't want to do that. I want to I

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want to go do other things, and so shut out.

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Speaker 2: I changed my mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so he started working in an advertising agency

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and through the advertising agency, directed a few commercials. And

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he had a buddy named Hugh Wilson. Have you heard

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the name Hugh Wilson before Las Academy? You got it, buddy, Yes, right,

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all right, I find that that is awesome. Yes, So

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Hugh Wilson before Police Academy was the guy who created

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and wrote and produced a TV series called WKRP in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: UKRP and Cincinnat.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's it. And so Rod Daniel had gone out

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to Hollywood was interested in making films. Actually he hadn't

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really developed it at that point, but he sits in

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on the pilot episode of WRKRP in Cincinnati. He watches

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what the guy's doing and he's like, I could do this.

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in this instance, I was like, Hugh, I can do this.

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I can direct it. And so he made him an

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assistant producer. Eventually he started directing. He ended up directing

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about thirty three episodes of WKRP in Cincinnati. Cool. So,

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but his perspective on it, and this is what he said,

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Television is just a machine. It's a sausage machine. It's

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just like you just got a crank crank, crank, crank crank.

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And Atlantic had this film that they wanted and needed

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a director for and they were going through all of

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these directors and every director they'd say, what is this

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movie about? And they'd say, it's about a Teenage where Wolf,

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that seems like the obvious thing. So Rod Daniel was

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the only guy that said it's about a father and

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a son. And it was because he said it's about

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a father and a son that he got tapped to

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be the director of this movie. Now, whenever we've been

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talking multiple times, and we'll talk about Michael J. Fox

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in just a second, you keep saying Growing Pains fifty times,

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and I was like, Okay, if we can make it

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through the episode with the without you calling Family Ties

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Growing Pains, that'll be another win. Right. But next movie

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that he directed after Teen Wolf, do you know it.

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Speaker 2: Like father, like son? Who starred in Growing Pains?

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Speaker 3: Right, Kirk Cameron, Kirk Cameron from Growing Pains, That's right,

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and also Dudley Moore from Arthur Go check Out. Are

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just our second to last episode before this on Christopher Cross.

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But anyway, before that, he is interviewing people for the

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main part of teen Wolf, met Michael J. Fox. He

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liked him instantly, like this, this is our guy for sure.

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Right now, Michael J. Fox had been on Family Ties,

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was still on Family Ties, but it was a weird

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circumstance that happens that allows him to be able to

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go to make this movie. Now, if you go back

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to season one, ladies and gentlemen, you and are very

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what is our second or third series? We did Back

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to the Future versus Raiders of the Lost right, and

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we talked at that time about how Michael J. Fox

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didn't get the part initially because he was working family

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ties and he couldn't do both the movie and the series.

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So then the question is, well, then how did he

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do Teenwolf? Because Teenwolf got filmed before Back to the Future,

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right right. The reason was he obviously was a very

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popular character. But Meredith Baxter, Bernie the mom, got pregnant, yes,

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and she had to take twenty five days off. And

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twenty five days is how long it took them to

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shoot this movie.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: Three weeks. Three weeks, yeah, three weeks.

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Speaker 2: Between October and November of nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, what other great movie from the

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eighties can we chalk up to somebody's pregnancy where another

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actor got the part, knocked it out of the part

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while his co star had a baby.

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Speaker 3: That would be Moonlighting and the movie is diehard, diehard, Yes, yes,

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good job, all right, So and that'll come up. It

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already came up. It already came up. Diehard already came

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up and came up again.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Sivil Shepherd's husband and Perny's husband.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm gonna rewind just a little bit because

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we didn't really dive into Michael J. Fox whenever we

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did our Back to the Future episode. Okay, and I

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do want to dive in a little bit here. Okay. Yeah,

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he was little, like he's still little, right, He's still around,

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and he's he's very It was a great when he

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won his Emmy or whatever. He got up there and

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he's like, oh, man, I feel four feet tall. You know.

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He's always been a small guy, and he wasn't a

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particularly good student c's and d's mostly in his school.

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But he fell in love with acting because it gave

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him the opportunity to be somebody that was not himself, right,

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and also all the girls were in the drama class.

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He's a hockey player, played other sports, but he was like, ooh, drama.

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I'm there. I'll tell you what sport.

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Speaker 2: He didn't play basketball?

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Speaker 3: Keep going right, So he does well and he actually

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gets some jobs on these Canadian TV shows and is

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doing some small time stuff and he's like, this is

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what I want to do. And his dad was a

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worker and a grinder and always kind of sneered at

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him about the things, and he didn't support his acting initially.

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But when he came to him and he's like, I'm

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no good at high school. I know I can make

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it if I go out to Hollywood, but I'm not

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going to make it unless I do. His dad said, well,

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then I guess that's what we've got to do if

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you're that determined to do it. And his dad, even

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though they had no money, put it all on the

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visa card, drove him out there from Canada, took him

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to four auditions. He got called back on all of them. Wow,

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And his dad said, you've got this by the tail,

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don't let it go. Dropped him off at a tiny,

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tiny little studio apartment that had one sink that he

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washed his dishes and his hands and his hair in,

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and his dad left and he did these little bits right,

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but it was like on Trapper John MD, and it

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was other like small TV series things, and he was

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not making much money and he wasn't getting a whole

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lot of parts, and he got to where he was like, well,

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I have this sectional. I could sell it, or I

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could sell a piece of it. And he sold a

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piece of his sectional, so they had money to pay

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rent and to eat. And then he sold another piece,

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and then he sold another piece, and he was down

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to no furniture. He was stealing jelly from the eyehop,

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the little free jelly you get to eat, because he

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had nothing else to eat. Wow, he was doing McDonald's

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commercials at best. You know, that'd be a great payday. Yeah,

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he's got one fine, Like the make It or Break

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It audition, right, the director doesn't want him, The head

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of the studio does not want him. They let him

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come in and read for the part. Anyway, as he's

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in the room to read for this part, he's like,

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oh crap, I like the whole script just went like

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he just drops it and it all falls apart. He's like,

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry. I'll get this,

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you know. And there's just you know a line of

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people just watching the director shaking his head. And they

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start the scene and he starts saying these lines and

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I'm listening to it, and the lines on the page

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are not really that funny, but when they come out

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of his mouth, everyone in the room is laughing. And

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that's how he gets the job of Alex Keaton until

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the first episode when he ad libs as he answers

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the phone and says, Alex P. Keaton. He gave himself

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the middle initial in the first episode of the show.

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How about that? There you go. I love it, man,

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That's how he gets the job on Family Ties.

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Speaker 2: You know, just hearing that makes me happy.

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Speaker 3: Number one.

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Speaker 2: But when I watched Teen Wolf, I mean, of course

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back in the future, but when I watched Teen Wolf,

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he owns the screen.

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Speaker 3: It's charisma all over the place. Man.

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Speaker 2: He I don't I can't even put my finger on it.

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Speaker 3: He he just has it. It's it. Give me a

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keg of beer. He has an uncanny way of delivering

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things in a completely believable way that also is a

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way that makes you smile or laugh. I mean, he's

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just a gifted guy in that regard. And we mentioned

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before that he was not able to do back to

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the future because of his commitment to Family Ties. Well,

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when he got back as he was filming Teenwolf, he

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knew they were filming back to the future, like he

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knew what was going on. He's like, they were both

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filmed in South Pasadena, exactly what is going on across

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the street over there that Steven Spielberg is involved in.

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And he finds out that Crispin Glover's in it, and

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he knows Crispin. He's like, crazy, Crispin is in a

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Steven Spielberg movie and I'm doing this be high school

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monster movie? What is going on? Right? And it's only

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when he gets back that Dave Goldberg I believe is

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his name. Goldberg is his last name. I remember that.

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It's easy to remember. The director of Family Ties brings

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him into his office and says, I have a confession

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to make. Stevens gave me this script and we said, Stephen,

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he knew exactly who he was talking about. Steven gave

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me this script months ago and wanted you, specifically you

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for this part. And I told him, no, he can't

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have you. I can't spare you. It won't work. But

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he felt guilty, like he felt guilty, and he said

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that he's just called me back. They've had Eric Stoltz

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in there and they don't think he's right, and they're

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willing to spend a lot of money to reshoot all

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of his scenes, and they're begging me for you and

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he says, don't screw me on this, and so literally

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the way that it would go. For the however many

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weeks they filmed, a teamster would come pick him up

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from his tiny, little crappy apartment at nine am. It

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would take him over the Paramount lot where he would

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shoot all of the family ties stuff. Then at six pm,

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another teamster would drive him to wherever they happened to

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be shooting on Back to the Future. He would shoot

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until just before sunrise. I was like, you noticed that

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a lot of the movie is at night time. Yeah,

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like a whole lot, Like all of the big fun

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scenes there at night. Yeah. That was because that's what

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time Michael J. Fox could film. And so just before

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dawn they would wrap filming and he would get in

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the back of a station wagon with a blanket and

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a pillow. The guy the teamster would drive him back

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to his studio apartment, frequently have to carry him upstairs,

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put him in his bed, and he would get another

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couple of hours sleep until another teamster came over, made

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a pop of coffee, turned on the shower, got him

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out of bed, and started the whole process all over again.

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Speaker 2: I think it was November one, nineteen eighty four. Okay,

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he films first thing in the morning to all you know,

472
00:21:54,000 --> 00:22:00,400
basically till six pm growing pains. All right, they picked

473
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,240
me that first thing in the morning. He films all

474
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,599
day family ties, then he does pickups for teen Wolf.

475
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the pickups.

476
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: Then he goes and films Back to the Future all

477
00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:12,079
night long. Oh so he actually did three things in

478
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,920
one glorious day in nineteen.

479
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: Eighty This is crazy. That's crazy.

480
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,319
Speaker 3: So when he's done with all of this, he knows

481
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,559
how exhausted he is, right, he knows that he's been

482
00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:36,279
struggling on family Ties. He knows he's been struggling as

483
00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:38,559
they've filmed Back to the Future, and he's just like,

484
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,799
I can't believe that I've I've f this up. There's

485
00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:44,480
no way that it can be good. It just can't

486
00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:46,920
be good. As bad as I've been, there's no way

487
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,480
it can be good. And his agent called him and

488
00:22:49,519 --> 00:22:51,920
said I saw the movie, and he's like, I'm so sorry.

489
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,240
I just exhausted. And the guy's like it's great.

490
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: Which movie we're talking about now back to the Future.

491
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're going to be a star. Yeah. And

492
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,200
so what happens with teen Wolf is that they said

493
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,759
this film first, they're smart. When was their original release date.

494
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be in March, in March of nineteen

495
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,640
eighty five, which that kind of lines up with basketball season, right, Sure,

496
00:23:15,759 --> 00:23:19,640
they release it in football season in August of nineteen

497
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:20,400
eighty five.

498
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 3: And what came out in July of eighty five had

499
00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:23,160
me back.

500
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:31,279
Speaker 2: To the Future, right they So, the producers of Teen

501
00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:33,599
Wolf got wind of Back to the Future. They knew

502
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,079
it was Spielberg, they knew it was big budget, and

503
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,680
they knew that the studio had high confidence in its success.

504
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,359
They chose to gamble on Back to the Future and

505
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,400
they held the release of Teen Wolf. They pushed it

506
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,200
to August of nineteen eighty five. August was a time

507
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,759
when you released your junk.

508
00:23:54,039 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, all your crap, All the summer blockbusters are

509
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,319
over by August, that's right.

510
00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: And they said, nope, we're going to hold. We're going

511
00:24:01,319 --> 00:24:03,640
to go all in on Back to the Future. Released

512
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,519
teen Wolf after Back to the Future, and of course.

513
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,799
Speaker 3: It blew up. It blew up. I think the budget

514
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,400
was something like four four million dollars, which is not

515
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,480
very much money. And I don't remember eighty eighty something

516
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,960
eighty something million dollars what it grossed worldwide? Good call on.

517
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,599
Just wait, just let's just wait. Let's just see what happens.

518
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,599
Let's see what happens. Brilliant, All right, Okay, flip over

519
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,079
to monster Squad. So what do you say, A monster

520
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:43,839
squad or what? Right? So monster squad. So again, something

521
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,640
we've talked about in the past is the Pad, Oh guys,

522
00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:48,559
the Pad of Guys. You remember the Pad of Guys?

523
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: I do.

524
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,519
Speaker 3: We first talked about the Pad of Guys. I believe

525
00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:54,000
when we were talking about Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure,

526
00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:58,000
because Ed Solomon was a roommate among the Pad of Guys.

527
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:04,279
Ed Solomon was a member, a resident, a roommate, a roomy,

528
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,599
a guy who would play football in the yard at

529
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:10,400
three am and hang around with pizza boxes and unfinished

530
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,400
scripts with the rest of these guys. Also David Silverman,

531
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:19,400
who wrote The Simpsons, Also David Arnett, who wrote the

532
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,599
Adventures of Ford fair Lane. Also Robert Renault who wrote

533
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:27,039
Demolition Man. And David Fincher never lived there, but he'd

534
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:30,000
come hang out with him pretty free. Yes, what So

535
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:32,759
in addition to those guys, there were a couple of

536
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,119
other guys. One of them was named Shane Black and

537
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,920
the other one was Fred Decker.

538
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: That's insane man. So you know, I think we talked

539
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,200
in our Bill and Tad's episode way back when the

540
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,480
season two maybe that you know ed Solomon they would

541
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,279
go to these classes, like film writing classes, and they

542
00:25:51,279 --> 00:25:54,000
would brainstorm and work and do all this stuff. And

543
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:56,519
he said, Shane Black did not didn't come to class,

544
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,880
didn't work hard. He was kind of half asleep. And

545
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,920
then the time that he would say something, it was

546
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:03,839
like Shadow Company.

547
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: Yes, Vietnam missioning in action guys who come back their

548
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,480
bodies come back as zombies Andreekavic on the which if

549
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,680
you go back and you listen to our Lethal Weapon episode,

550
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,960
by the way, go back and listen to that. Shane

551
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,039
Black showed that script to his brother. His brother said,

552
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,119
it's terrible. Don't do this, yep, and that like it.

553
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,519
It's at that point that he starts writing lethal Weapon.

554
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,480
He veers and he starts writing lethal Weapon. And if

555
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,640
you'll remember, the Shadow Company actually does the name Shadow

556
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,599
Company comes up in Leath the Weapon, yep. But before that,

557
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,319
just before he writes the Lethal Weapon, he's in this.

558
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:42,839
He had had his parents bankroll him for a year,

559
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:44,720
just said let me go try to make it as

560
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,920
a writer. And so he's there with these other guys

561
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,680
and Fred Decker is having a little more success. Yeah. Right.

562
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,079
He writes a script that becomes a House, which got

563
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,079
released in nineteen eighty five. Yeah, you've seen that one.

564
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,960
I have unimpressed. No, okay, I mean it's fun, but

565
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:08,400
that he parlays that into becoming the writer and director

566
00:27:08,599 --> 00:27:11,519
of Knight of the Creeps, which you've covered with Jeff Johnson.

567
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,599
Speaker 2: I have, that's right. I love Night of the Creeps

568
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:14,759
so much fun.

569
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,319
Speaker 3: So he does Night of the Creeps, and you know,

570
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:20,920
we've got a little momentum building now, right. So this

571
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,400
is eighty six or so, and he's like, okay, he's

572
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,799
watching all they all they do is say sit around

573
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:29,000
and they watch old TV shows, right, And if you

574
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,759
remember watching old TV shows in the eighties, you probably remember,

575
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:38,880
like I do, watching the nineteen thirties versions of Dracula, Frankenstein,

576
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,400
and The wolf Man. Well, the wolf Man, I think

577
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,119
was like later, but the Mummy, Yeah, Creature from the

578
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,839
Black Lagoon all known together now as the University Monsters,

579
00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:53,920
the Universal Monsters. That's right. So he's watching that, he's

580
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,880
watching old Little Rascals episodes, and he's like, man, what

581
00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:00,519
if we had like a crossover of like because he's

582
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:04,799
watching Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein, right, and he's like,

583
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,640
you know, it was like many things. It was fantastic

584
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,559
when the first one came out, and then they would

585
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:11,759
release next movie, next movie slowly got lower and lower

586
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:14,279
quality until it was just a joke, he said. But

587
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,559
on the joke movies, the Frankenstein became scary again, you know,

588
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,079
like you got Abbot and Costello. You know, he's freaking

589
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,400
out because the hand that's on his leg is not

590
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,599
his own hand, you know. Yeah, And so he's like, well,

591
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,240
you know, if we had this kind of Abbot and

592
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,319
Costello moment with kids like the Little Rascals with these monsters,

593
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,480
maybe that makes a good movie idea. He suggests it

594
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,079
to Shane Black. Okay, now keep in mind that Shane

595
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,799
Black a little bit later will write Lethal Weapon. He

596
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,839
will also write The Long Kiss good Night, which at

597
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,680
the time that it was sold sold for more than

598
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,680
any other specscript had ever sold for in history, something

599
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:58,160
like four and a half million dollars. And he's, I mean,

600
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,119
he's in his freaking twenties. He's in his twenties, and

601
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,599
he goes on to write Iron Man three. I mean,

602
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,920
he's he's done a few things right, he's a very

603
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,680
what he got brought into Predator to doctor the script

604
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,880
as they were doing stuff, even though he didn't actually

605
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,200
end up doing it. He just was the guy reading

606
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,000
Sergeant Rock in the background. And I'm making totally inappropriate jokes.

607
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,200
But anyway, he's like, this is I got a quote

608
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:25,440
him here.

609
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,359
Speaker 2: See it's an echo, It's an echo.

610
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: See. So Shane Black said this about the Monster Squad.

611
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:38,279
He said, I'm not kidding when I say this. The

612
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,799
Monster Squad was the purest script I ever did, with

613
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000
the least amount of self consciousness and the most passion.

614
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:55,920
It was my best script. What so Shane Black, this

615
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:02,799
script writing icon calls this movie his best script. That's fantastic.

616
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: And this is the guy who did leave the weapon long, kiss,

617
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,640
goodnight and Iron Man three, like you said.

618
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: Tiscus bang bang, all of those yes, did he do

619
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:13,200
the nice guys. I think he did do the nice guys. Yeah,

620
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,559
that's right. So he writes the script. Fred sees it

621
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:18,680
and he's like, okay, let's change these things. And basically

622
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,240
they're back and forth on it until really it's kind

623
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440
of a joint project. And I told you, I just realized,

624
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,400
after you know, weeks of studying this, that means that

625
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,000
this script is a Black and Decker script.

626
00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: What a great joke.

627
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: That's next level. Do a good job. Yeah, okay, So

628
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:40,480
the script gets greenlit. They are very excited because they

629
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,240
everyone is told that they get permission to use the

630
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:46,440
Universal Monsters. And then a few days later they say, no, wait, no,

631
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:48,480
we don't. We don't have permission at all. Well you're dead.

632
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: If you can't use the Universal Monsters, you have nothing.

633
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:55,599
Speaker 3: Well keep in mind that short of the Wolfman and

634
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,200
Creature from the Black Lagoon, these are already established characters

635
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,319
in literature. This is not the Universal has not does

636
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:05,880
not have exclusive rights to Dracula or the Monster of Frankenstein.

637
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:10,119
So there's some maneuverability there, right, Okay, so they got

638
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,599
to change things up and they're making adjustments, right among

639
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,240
the guys that are producing this movie is a guy

640
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,000
named Peter Himes. You know Peter him.

641
00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: I do know Peter Himes.

642
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:22,799
Speaker 3: Peter Himes the year before had directed twenty ten, the

643
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,599
year we made contact. Right after this, he would go

644
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,039
on to direct Running Scared, which I believe is a favorite.

645
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:30,319
Speaker 2: Advice love Rain Scares. It is one of my favorite

646
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:31,079
movies of the eighties.

647
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:32,759
Speaker 3: I still haven't seen it. That needs to be one

648
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:35,920
of those virgin experiences for me. I'll see if you're

649
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,000
like then he did Time Cop and Sudden Death. How

650
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,079
about getting Steven Seagal and Jean Claude Van dam in

651
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,640
one episode that has nothing to do with their movies.

652
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,920
But as as as Fred Decker is filming this movie,

653
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,480
Peter Heim is not happy with him, and he was like,

654
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:54,640
I'm about to get fired. I know this back. But

655
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,839
fortunately Peter him just said listen, the way you're filming

656
00:31:57,839 --> 00:31:59,640
and to just talked to He coached him, right, He

657
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200
didn't coached him. He said, listen, you have in your

658
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,680
mind the way this movie is going to go, and

659
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,640
you're filming it for the way that you think it's

660
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,960
going to go. The problem with that is if anything

661
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,799
goes wrong with the way that you're filming it. You

662
00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:13,480
have no net, you've got no backup, You're not doing

663
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,559
enough coverage. And so he's like, do some establishing shots.

664
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:19,279
And if you watch the movie, you're like, oh, dude,

665
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:23,039
there's the establishing shot. There's the establishing shot. You get

666
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:26,839
a master shot out there and show the wide screen.

667
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,160
And he said, not only did it help him, it

668
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,759
kind of helped everybody else understand what was going on

669
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,119
in the scene. So that was acted better, and the

670
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:38,880
guy's doing all the setwork and all of the other

671
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,720
stuff understood it better. And it was absolutely the right

672
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,279
right call.

673
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: It helped his team make a better movie exactly because

674
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,880
of the master shot. By the way, I just wanted

675
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,279
to drop some knowledge on Night of the Creeps, which

676
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:52,200
I'm a big fan of. You ever seen it?

677
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,079
Speaker 3: I have not seen it.

678
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's some surely crossover in Night of the

679
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,839
Creeps that I just want to bring up real quick,

680
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,039
just for fun. Okay, So it stuck Tom Adkins, who

681
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,680
is also in leitha weapon. Yes, he's hunts Ecker, gets shot.

682
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,559
Speaker 3: Through the milk jug. Yes, through the milk jug. Several

683
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,359
guys get shot. He's the only one that gets shot

684
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,400
in milk.

685
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,319
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, Gary Busey blows him away.

686
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,759
Speaker 3: Right. Also, by the way, an idol of our listener,

687
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:22,319
Amanda janek Amanaganic loves tom as she calls him love King.

688
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,079
Speaker 2: Yes, then you have two of the girls from Weird

689
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,880
Science in NIGHTE of the Creeps. Okay, you have camera

690
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,200
is hillyer Deb is one of them, and like the

691
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,839
star of the show is the perfume.

692
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: Girl at the mall right, wow, Okay.

693
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,279
Speaker 2: The girl who's like, didn't you two get beat up

694
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:40,920
at the homecoming dance last year?

695
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:44,279
Speaker 3: Who her name is? Jill?

696
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: I think she has one of the greatest will she

697
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,519
or won't she show us her eighties boobs of all time?

698
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,279
And if you don't know what I talk about, just

699
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:56,880
go watch NIGHTE of the Creeps. Okay, But also starring

700
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,440
in NIGHTE of the Creeps is Jason Lively, who plays

701
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,960
Rusty in European Vacation, which we covered last summer.

702
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think so there you go. Okay, So, just

703
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,519
because you brought Night of the Creeps, I just gonna

704
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,440
say this line. Dead guys do not get up and

705
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,960
walk away by themselves. It's in Night of the Creeps

706
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,400
and it's in the Monster Squad. Oh how about both

707
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:16,559
of them?

708
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: Ye?

709
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,599
Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then like a dead guy walks by. Right,

710
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:21,239
that's what happens.

711
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: I've got such a great nugget on casting that I

712
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,360
can't wait to give you.

713
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,599
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So that kind of does it for

714
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,440
the lead up to both of these movies. Let's talk

715
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,119
about casting.

716
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,079
Speaker 2: Let's talk about casting. Okay, So let's flip back to

717
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:45,880
Teen Wolf. We'll go through the casting number one.

718
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,159
Speaker 3: Michael J. Fox.

719
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: We talked about him, how he got the part, how

720
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,599
it was a special three week deal because of Meredith

721
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,159
Baxter Bernie's pregnancy.

722
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 5: You are an animal.

723
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to bring up a movie real

724
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,760
quick that has some surely connections.

725
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: I thought this was fun. So Michael J.

726
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: Fox, Beforeteen Wolf, before Back the Future, starred in a

727
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,599
movie called High School, USA.

728
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: I saw that movie a bunch of times. Did you

729
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,639
really I had like a bunch of a bunch of

730
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:21,199
TV stars like old TV, like had bopped inver in

731
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:26,920
it right, Gilligan, Right it is. I'm like, this may

732
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,559
be the only thing that I remember from the movie,

733
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,920
but I think they wreck his car and then to

734
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,599
get out of trouble for wrecking his car. They get

735
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:37,800
him drunk, then put him in the wrecked car and

736
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,920
make him think that he wrecked the car. That's drinking

737
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,239
and driver. That's right. Yeah, okay, High School US, Yes,

738
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:43,880
it's not good.

739
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:45,679
Speaker 2: It is on TV though, if you want to watch

740
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,079
to be Okay, Michael J. Fox has kind of a

741
00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:54,079
romance with Joe from Family from the Facts of Life.

742
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: Yea life. Yeah, I kind of like Joe better than Blair.

743
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,599
Actually tell you truth something about Joe. I'll take Blair,

744
00:35:59,679 --> 00:35:59,920
I know.

745
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: But but it's cool to see a family tie very

746
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,320
Facts of Life crossover right there.

747
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:07,679
Speaker 3: Yep.

748
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Also in High School USA, Crispin Glover is in that movie.

749
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: That's how he knew crazy Crispin, right, that's right. Okay,

750
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,480
so there you go.

751
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: Okay, So before I talked about the rest of the cast,

752
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,519
I want to talk about a guy named Paul Ventura.

753
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,480
He's the casting director for teen Wolf. Okay, okay, Yeah,

754
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,559
this guy does an outstanding job and it's a whole

755
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:28,960
lot of networking and relationships. So one of the guys

756
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000
that he knows is James Hampton. Okay, that's the guy

757
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:36,119
who plays Harold Howard. Okay, Scott Howard's dad.

758
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:38,519
Speaker 1: You knew about this, and you didn't tell me.

759
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: I was hoping I wouldn't have to. Sometimes it skips

760
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,719
a generation. I was hoping it would pass you by.

761
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,199
Speaker 1: Well, it didn't pass me by. It landed on.

762
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: My face and to me other than Scott Howard, Michael J.

763
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,679
Speaker 3: Fox. This is the most important character in the entire movie, absolutely,

764
00:36:56,679 --> 00:36:58,239
because it's about a father and his son, about a

765
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,840
father and son.

766
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,679
Speaker 2: Right, he doesn't credible job of being one of the

767
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,039
greatest fathers in a teen movie.

768
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I.

769
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:10,559
Speaker 2: Think he's just the best. His wife has died, He's

770
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:14,119
trying to be there for his son. He's not being overbearing,

771
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:17,400
he's not being a jerk. However, he did fail to

772
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,039
mention that they have a werewolf curse in their family.

773
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:23,679
Speaker 3: It skips the generation. He thought you might miss him.

774
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 5: It didn't miss my dad on my face, which that

775
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,239
logic doesn't even hold because if he's if he has

776
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,239
grandkids and Scott doesn't know about.

777
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,039
Speaker 2: It, he's gonna be like, what the heck is happening.

778
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,719
So but other than that, he does such a spectacular job.

779
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,800
I do love the scene where he and Booth are

780
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320
playing basketball. You know that that was ad libbed. The

781
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,280
original scene was written as mister Howard and Boof are

782
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,239
sitting at a table. They're drinking cocoa and they're waiting

783
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,519
and Scott comes in and hello, has ever you know?

784
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,760
And James Hampton's like, no, we need we need action,

785
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,199
we need something going on on.

786
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

787
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,599
Speaker 2: So he and Susan Rcady are like, let's play basketball.

788
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,239
Both of them not good, right, but they're having fun.

789
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:10,079
Speaker 3: And he's like, let's just go for it.

790
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:13,679
Speaker 2: But and you can see they are having fun on screen.

791
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really are. Yeah, it and it gives you

792
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,559
that impression that he's known her his whole life, right,

793
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:21,719
like he's doing a little kid.

794
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be like me playing basketball against life exactly.

795
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 3: You know what I mean exactly.

796
00:38:26,039 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: So it's fantastic.

797
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,519
Speaker 3: Okay, before you leave, James Hampton, Yes, did you have more?

798
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:31,719
Are you about to move on? No?

799
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:32,679
Speaker 2: I was getting ready to say something.

800
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:36,159
Speaker 3: No, keep going, okay, so on James Hampton, Yes, this

801
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,719
was I was kind of blown away on this one, right. Yeah.

802
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,760
So in the Monster Squad, Yeah, one of the two

803
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:48,280
kids is played by Robbie Kreiger. Okay, in the early

804
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,119
eighties nineteen eighty one. To be precise, Robbie Kreiger was

805
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:56,840
with James Hampton in a short lived TV series And

806
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,719
as a matter of fact, I think that Robbie Craiger

807
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,679
was only in the pilot episode. I don't think that

808
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,280
he went on to do others, but he who later

809
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,960
went on to do Monster Squad was with James Hampton,

810
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,960
who later later went on to do Team Wolf in

811
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:14,320
this TV show called Maggie, which starred Miriam Flynn. Does

812
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,559
that name of ring a bell for you? Yeah, mister Mom? Yes? Yes?

813
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:23,519
And also cousin Catherine, cousin Eddie's wife in all of

814
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:27,000
the Vacation movies. It did not last long that show,

815
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:29,000
but I just thought, Oh, that's crazy that these two,

816
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,320
these two kind of key characters, like really the two

817
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,400
key side characters in both of these movies, happened to

818
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,119
be in a short lived TV show together.

819
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: How about that?

820
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah?

821
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,599
Speaker 2: Marion Flynn has one of the funniest moments in Mister

822
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:45,480
Mom when Jack Butler thinks his wife has been cheating

823
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:48,000
on him and the phone's ringing and she's like, maybe

824
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:50,639
should answer it, and he's like, maybe we should answer it.

825
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,760
He rips the phone out of the wall. He's like, hello,

826
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,119
nobody's there. I guess, throws the phone, kicks the TV

827
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,360
and she's just like cringing in the corner.

828
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm gonna go. Yeah, I thought you were

829
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,239
going to I thought you were going to give the line. Hi, Jack,

830
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,280
You're doing it wrong. We gotta do that. Are we

831
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,280
gonna do mister mom my, gosh, we gotta do it?

832
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So let's talk about Jerry Levine.

833
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:16,679
Speaker 3: Okay, hell are you say?

834
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,599
Speaker 1: No? No, great talking to you.

835
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,199
Speaker 2: So this is the dude who plays Styles. Okay, Yeah,

836
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,480
he talked about when he came into the audition process.

837
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:28,280
So he's like, twenty seven, right, you're playing seventeen. Twenty

838
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,199
seven is a little bit old.

839
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

840
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: So he comes in and he said, right off the bat,

841
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,679
I could tell that the people who were doing the

842
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,880
casting were a little bit not sure about me because

843
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,920
I was older. And he's like, guys, I just want

844
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,920
you to know, yes, I am older, but I can

845
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,679
act and I can act young.

846
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,559
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

847
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: And so that's when he broke into his Styles king right. Yeah,

848
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,960
And and Styles is great, man. He he is the

849
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:55,119
flip side of the wolf.

850
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:58,639
Speaker 3: Right, he is. He's the he's the marketing like, let's

851
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,800
make it happen, wheeler dealer, you're beautiful. Yeah, and it

852
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,960
immediately starts calling him TWW. Right, how did you already

853
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480
get to this? He's like, you're a team wolf, Okay,

854
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,800
t W here's what we're gonna do, you know.

855
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,199
Speaker 2: Right. The first thing he says is Scott.

856
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: He's like, Styles, is me all right? T W Yeah. So,

857
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:17,719
by the.

858
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:20,159
Speaker 2: Way, his name in the movie real name, So he

859
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:21,960
goes by Styles. Everybody calls him styles.

860
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,519
Speaker 3: Yea his real name in the movie Rupert right, style

861
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:29,039
a Kowski or something right, stelenski yeare you go? All right?

862
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: So not the connection here, okay. So Jerry Levine is

863
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,400
friends with another girl working actor, and he's like, you know,

864
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,199
they're looking for a character this sweet girl next door,

865
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,840
you know, sweetheart of a girl I know somebody.

866
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: Her name's Susan Orcetti. Okay, yeah, right yeah.

867
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,559
Speaker 2: So he calls her and he's like, hey, I think

868
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,320
maybe this movie's got a part for you. And they'd

869
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,039
been looking for Boof. Can't find boof because you don't

870
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,239
want are too hot. She's got to be kind of

871
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,199
subtle hot, you know, right, she's.

872
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:02,079
Speaker 3: Very cute story. Yeahah, very girling story.

873
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: So he calls her. She had been in the movie

874
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,599
Zat okay.

875
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,039
Speaker 3: That terrible Scott Bayo movie, right, Scott Bayo.

876
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,119
Speaker 2: And and I don't know how terrible it is, okay,

877
00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:17,840
So they he recommended her. Well, it turns out she

878
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,480
had been in this really influential USC student film called

879
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:22,800
Last Chance Dance.

880
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 3: Okay, and apparently it was kind of making the rounds.

881
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,519
Speaker 2: And they're like, isn't she from that USC film that

882
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,239
we watched called Last Chance Dance? And they're like, yeah,

883
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,199
you know, and she's like, oh yeah, she was great. Yeah,

884
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,360
So friendship connection gets Boof hired. Okay, by the way,

885
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:44,119
I have the answer, So you have it.

886
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: You told me this on our As I'm sitting in

887
00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:49,320
traffic waiting to get here. You're like, so, do you

888
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,599
know how they came up with the name Boof? And

889
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:54,760
I was like no. When you're like, don't look, I

890
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,079
was like, all right, surprise me, man, this is something

891
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:58,800
I have wondered for forty years. Right.

892
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: So her characters is Lisa Marconi, which the name Lisa

893
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,119
Marconi is actually a former very important girlfriend of Jeff

894
00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:11,480
Lobe Okay, So when Jeff Loebe was in college, I

895
00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:14,159
think he went to Columbia anyway, well, he was there.

896
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,159
One of the places where students would hang out is

897
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,119
like the steps of the library when the sun came out,

898
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:22,079
it was a nice day. That's where kind of the

899
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:25,639
social thing happened. So he sees this pretty girl walking

900
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:28,920
down the street towards him, and you know, being nineteen

901
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,119
and attempting to be suave. As she's walking by, he

902
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:35,679
says something along the lines of, hey, why don't you

903
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:37,880
come have lunch with me? She stops in her tracks

904
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,800
and turns around.

905
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:40,159
Speaker 3: And says, what did you say to me?

906
00:43:40,519 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: And he said, I said, why didn't you come have

907
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:44,360
lunch to be And she goes, I thought you called

908
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,960
me boof? And he goes, that doesn't even make sense,

909
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:50,360
Like that's not even English.

910
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,039
Speaker 3: That's why I stopped. Why would you call me boof?

911
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:55,360
He's like, I didn't call you boof.

912
00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:00,159
Speaker 2: So anyway, that spark happened there nice and so they

913
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:04,599
began dating, and as a sort of a nickname, she

914
00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:06,480
would call him Boof and he would call her boof.

915
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,480
And there you have the name Boof.

916
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,639
Speaker 3: It's great. It's a good story. I like that story

917
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:14,440
pretty good, right, yeah? All right?

918
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: Uh, and then now you have the unattainable girl. Her

919
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:24,480
character's name was Pamela. Gotcha yea, And so susan Or City.

920
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:27,199
Susie was friends with this girl named Lorie Griffin.

921
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,559
Speaker 6: You can run a lot family, you can ravage my body,

922
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:35,000
but I beg you with all that is decent, and Holly,

923
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,599
don't destroy my plantation.

924
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: They had done a commercial together and I looked today,

925
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:43,440
couldn't find.

926
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: It too bad, I know.

927
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 2: So you had Boof and Pamela in the same commercion.

928
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,840
She was a model, needed a hot girl. She's like, hey,

929
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,760
my friend. They brought her in. They're like, I think

930
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,320
you're good.

931
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,639
Speaker 3: She's definitely hot enough. I think you're good enough for

932
00:44:55,679 --> 00:44:57,199
the part. Yeah, okay.

933
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: And then they bring in Matt Adler, who ends up

934
00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,960
playing Lewis.

935
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

936
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,039
Speaker 2: Did you know that he was really going for the

937
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:05,800
part in Just One of the Guys. Do you remember

938
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,400
that movie Just One.

939
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: Of the Guys? I do, so he was. He thought

940
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,039
he was in line to play the part of the brother,

941
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:13,559
right perf brother. Yeah.

942
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: Ah.

943
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: The kid who got that part is the kid who

944
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:19,559
ended up taking Robbie Krager's part in Maggie. Like, he's

945
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:22,280
like he, yes, those two guys looked enough alike. He

946
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,119
took his part, that kid who ended up playing the

947
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,440
Perf brother. Yeah that's crazy. Wow.

948
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well so anyway he thought he was going to

949
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,199
get that part. Yeah, turns out he didn't. Yeah, and

950
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,760
then teen Wolf was a fall back role for him.

951
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,840
But you know, he is a really subtle thing in

952
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,159
this movie where he's kind.

953
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,559
Speaker 3: Of scared of the wolf. Yeah, there's something disapproving of

954
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:46,239
the wolf. We don't really get a firm explanation on

955
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,760
that either. I feel like maybe that that there's some

956
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,119
cut scene there that we would have gotten more details on.

957
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,519
But I am kind of curious about that. He seems

958
00:45:53,559 --> 00:45:58,119
like he's Scott's conscious. This makes sense, Yeah, Jimmy Crickett. Yeah,

959
00:45:58,199 --> 00:45:59,760
well and he kind of looks like him too, like

960
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,639
a very similar with those two guys. Yeah. You know

961
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:05,239
who he's married to, now you tell me, tell me

962
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:10,800
it is Laura san Giacomo, pretty woman. Yeah, yeah, she's

963
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:17,159
smoking Cindarella. Yeah wow.

964
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,079
Speaker 2: Alright, So then you have Mark Arnold, who plays Mick you.

965
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:23,199
Speaker 3: Don't scare me freak.

966
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:26,199
Speaker 1: Underneath all that hair.

967
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: You're still a dork, Scott.

968
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,519
Speaker 1: I've handled your kind before.

969
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:33,159
Speaker 3: Your mommy used to steal chickens out of the backyard

970
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,199
till I blew her head off with the shotgun.

971
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: He was in like soap opera. Yeah, just kind of

972
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,119
your standard tough guy turd. Yeah, the guy who plays

973
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:47,440
for the dragons, who sometimes always around right right right. Uh,

974
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:49,239
that's one of my I have. I have a few

975
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,440
problems with teen wolves.

976
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:52,079
Speaker 3: I want to bring up. Is he one of them?

977
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:55,519
Speaker 2: Well, the fact that he's always around at another high school.

978
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,559
Speaker 3: And he always has a five o'clock shadows.

979
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: And he's thirty two years old. Uh, okay, And you

980
00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:04,760
have Mark Houlton who plays Chubby.

981
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I first thing that I said to you

982
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,039
is like, okay, so we got two movies here. One

983
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,800
movie got a character character like that, like this is

984
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,320
your part. You got the part of fat Kid and

985
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,119
my name is Orce. And then the other movie you

986
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:26,639
got a character named Chubby or Chubbs. Chubbs. Yeah, well

987
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:31,480
he's chubby. He is. He's a big guy. But I said,

988
00:47:31,199 --> 00:47:35,119
we just talked about him because we just covered Pee

989
00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:38,039
Wee's Big Adventure. Plays Francis. He plays Francis, he got

990
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:40,159
the part. He took the part from. Or yeah, I

991
00:47:40,159 --> 00:47:43,559
took the part from Corey Feldman, right he did. Yeah,

992
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:46,519
And anyway, he was born in Oklahoma City, went to

993
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,639
Northeastern State over here in Tallaquah, just a few miles

994
00:47:49,639 --> 00:47:52,119
from where I work. It's just I was like, dude.

995
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: My wife's family is from Tallaquah. Yeah.

996
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,079
Speaker 3: I love Taalaquah. Yeah. Now this may be a little

997
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:01,519
bit out of place, but when teen Wolf came out

998
00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:05,159
August of nineteen eighty five, yes, the number one movie

999
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,119
the weekend it was released was The Future Back of

1000
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:12,880
the Future. Yeah. The number two movie was teen Wolf, Teenwolf.

1001
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:17,480
The number three movie was Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Hey,

1002
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:22,639
all right, So Oklahoma City Guy, by virtue of basically

1003
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,599
dumb luck is in a couple of low budget, no

1004
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,079
hope kind of movies. Is in the number two and

1005
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,519
number three movie. How about that next to Michael J. Fox,

1006
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,400
who's in the number one and number two movies. Pretty close.

1007
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome.

1008
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: I love it.

1009
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I want to talk about Jay Tarses.

1010
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 3: Okay, he plays the coach. He's great. I don't no

1011
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,639
matter how you play the game. It's whether you want

1012
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,480
to lose, and even that doesn't make all that much difference.

1013
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:52,679
He is fantastic.

1014
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: He really takes his part and makes it great.

1015
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:57,599
Speaker 3: You want to forfeit the game?

1016
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:04,199
Speaker 2: Sure, why not? I love it when when Scott's like, coach,

1017
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,199
I want to play the game? Is Scott not not

1018
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,760
the wolf? He's like our brains kicked in? But okay,

1019
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:15,880
he's funny man. Even when he's not speaking, he's doing

1020
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,440
funny things.

1021
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:19,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, sick, eating a sandwich, or he's looking around.

1022
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: Scott came in to talk to him. He's like, coach,

1023
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:22,719
I got a problem. You know, you said you got

1024
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,639
a problem. You can come in.

1025
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: You can talk to any about anything.

1026
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: He's unpacking, like the world's biggest KFC lunch, right and yeah,

1027
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,800
so he's chewing gum the whole time. The coach I'm

1028
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,440
going through changes. Oh that Sorry, I haven't been hanging

1029
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,000
around the locker.

1030
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: I haven't noticed.

1031
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:45,039
Speaker 2: So he's actually a like a writer, producer, director, like

1032
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:49,039
he's a radio personality. He's he's great, he got that part.

1033
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,639
James Hampton originally wanted the role of the coach.

1034
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,599
Speaker 3: Oh right, right, dad, Yeah, the guy who played the dad,

1035
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:58,000
wanted to be the coach. Yeah, that's right. But they said,

1036
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:00,840
like he is the dad. Yeah, so he's perfect as

1037
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,719
the dead, that's right.

1038
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: And then lastly, you've got Jim mccrell. He's the guy

1039
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,360
who plays Rusty Thorn, the principal.

1040
00:50:06,559 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Was he was he in The Howling? Yes, he was.

1041
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,400
He was in The Howling Wow and in Grimlins. And

1042
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,800
his character's name was Lou Landers in both of those movies.

1043
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,039
What Yeah, Joe Dante. Joe Dante did both of those. Yeah,

1044
00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:27,280
there you go, So there you go. He's lou Landers

1045
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,039
in both The Howling and in Grimlins.

1046
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: That is a fantastic nugget.

1047
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 3: That's great. Man.

1048
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,159
Speaker 2: If I didn't have one other thing, that'd be a

1049
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:35,559
great one.

1050
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 3: End on right there.

1051
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, two things, yeah, okay, I forgot to tell

1052
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:41,639
you this. One of the actors who auditioned for the

1053
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,440
role of Styles, yeah before they were big David Spade.

1054
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, I could see that right. And he

1055
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,920
would have been the right age too. He was much

1056
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,119
younger than twenty seven at.

1057
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: That point, fast talking salesman selling T shirts.

1058
00:50:56,119 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he probably would have not been able to

1059
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,840
surf on a van though I don't think.

1060
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: A little more believable when he holds the keg and

1061
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,000
it knocks him over. One other guy I want to mention. Yeah,

1062
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:11,440
Jeff Glosser Amy ringing a bell to you, all right,

1063
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,400
Jeff Glosser five foot six, five foot seven, kind of short. Yeah,

1064
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:20,199
played basketball at Loyal Merrymount, Okay. And because he was shortened,

1065
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:24,280
stature and a good basketball player. Yeah, he is the

1066
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,559
basketball playing stand in for Michael J. Fox as the Wolf.

1067
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,679
Speaker 3: How tall was he? Five' six seven? Short he still

1068
00:51:32,679 --> 00:51:35,280
looked way taller Than MICHAEL. J. Fox, well it looked

1069
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:35,679
like a freaking.

1070
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,599
Speaker 2: Giant he is way taller than Than MICHAEL. J.

1071
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,519
Speaker 3: FOX i guess that's.

1072
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: True so they found. Him they just kind of put

1073
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,920
out this call for you, know we need a short.

1074
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,920
Kid it could play. Basketball he's, like well short AND

1075
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,119
i played. Basketball, nice and that's the guy you played

1076
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:51,039
For Loyola Loyola. Marrymount.

1077
00:51:51,159 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 3: Nice there you. Go all? Right well that does it

1078
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,920
for the cast of Teen. Wolf, yeah the into part,

1079
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,079
One part. One, Yeah so, guys come back next. Week

1080
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:02,679
we will jump in casting for The Monster. Squad we'll talk,

1081
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,519
composers will talk special, effects we'll talk final judgment on

1082
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:11,320
which of these two iconic monster movies is the. Best, bye,

1083
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,639
Guys we'll see you next. Week to see you next,

1084
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:12,840
week