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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Core Side Quantum Physics Podcast, an exploration

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<v Speaker 1>of the fundamental structure of reality, where quantum laws govern matter, energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and information. Here, uncertainty is a feature, not a flaw,

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding begins at the smallest scales.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everyone, and welcome back to the show. Today, we

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<v Speaker 2>are embarking on a journey, an exploration really that wraps

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<v Speaker 2>up a cliffhanger that has been dangling over the scientific

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<v Speaker 2>world for exactly one hundred years. It's a big one,

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It's a story of rivalry, of absolute genius,

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<v Speaker 2>and of the very fabric of reality itself.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is. It's arguably the ultimate intellectual face off.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about a debate that defined the twentieth century

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<v Speaker 3>and now finally in the twenty first century, we have

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<v Speaker 3>a conclusion and.

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<v Speaker 2>Has written in hard not just on a chalkboard exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't just about equations or you know, dusty lab equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a genuine clash of titans about how we

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<v Speaker 3>understand the.

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<v Speaker 2>Universe and the cast of characters you literally couldn't write

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<v Speaker 2>better protagonists. In one corner, we have the father of relativity,

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<v Speaker 2>the man with the hair, the man who changed how

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<v Speaker 2>we see space and time. Albert Einstein, of course, and

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<v Speaker 2>in the other corner the godfather of quantum mechanics, Great

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<v Speaker 2>Dane Neil's.

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<v Speaker 3>Bore two absolute heavyweights, and for a long time this

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<v Speaker 3>rivalry was just it was frozen in history. Specifically, there's

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<v Speaker 3>that iconic image from the nineteen twenty five Solve conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I know what I'm sure you do.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've ever googled physics history, you've seen it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>that grainy, kind of sepia toned photo where you have

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<v Speaker 3>basically the smartest people who ever lived, all sitting on

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<v Speaker 3>one porch.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that photo. Yeah, it looks so civilized, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a bunch of guys in like wool coats and hats, relaxing,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little slumped in their chairs, deep in conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>You see Marie looking stoic, schroding or looking thoughtful. But

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<v Speaker 2>right in the center there they are Einstein and Borr.

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<v Speaker 3>And that civilized exterior was hiding a philosophical war. Einstein

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<v Speaker 3>notoriously was deeply, deeply skeptical of the new quantum mechanics

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<v Speaker 3>that bor was championing.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't stand it.

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<v Speaker 3>He really couldn't He had that famous line which I

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<v Speaker 3>think even people who have no interest in physics know

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<v Speaker 3>God does not play dice with the universe, which was.

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<v Speaker 2>His way of saying that reality shouldn't be random. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He believed that if you knew enough, if you had

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<v Speaker 2>enough data, you could predict everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the universe should be orderly, clockwork, cause and effect exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Einstein was a determinist. He believed in a direct line

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<v Speaker 3>from A to B. Borr, on the other hand, was

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<v Speaker 3>leading what became known as the Copenhagen interpretation, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>he argued that at a fundamental level, the universe, well,

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<v Speaker 3>it is probabilistic. Things don't have definite states like a

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<v Speaker 3>specific location or a specific speed until you measure them.

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<v Speaker 2>Before that measurement, they're just a cloud of possibilities, a smear.

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<v Speaker 3>A smear is a great way to put it, a

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<v Speaker 3>wave of potential. And for a century the textbooks have

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<v Speaker 3>told us bore one. The narrative has always been Einstein

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<v Speaker 3>was the old guard. He was brilliant, but he couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>keep up. He was wrong, but he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Go down without a fight, Oh not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept throwing these brain twisters, these kidankin experiments or

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<v Speaker 3>thought experiments at Boor to try and break quantum theory.

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<v Speaker 2>He was looking for a crack, a contradiction.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to find a logical inconsistency to prove that

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<v Speaker 3>quantum mechanics was incomplete. And that is where our story

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<v Speaker 3>gets incredibly fresh because on December thirty first, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>just a couple of months ago, scientists in China published.

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<v Speaker 2>A paper in Physical Review Letters.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the one, and they didn't just discuss Einstein's argument,

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<v Speaker 3>they actually built it. They built the machine Einstein designed

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<v Speaker 3>in his head to prove bor wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. After one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred years, they took this thought experiment which was

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<v Speaker 3>intended to destroy the principle of complementarity, and they turned

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<v Speaker 3>it into real hardware.

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<v Speaker 2>So our mission today is to unpack this specific experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to look at the recoil slit paradox, understand

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<v Speaker 2>why Einstein thought he had bore cornered, and reveal how

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<v Speaker 2>yet again, Einstein might have lost the battle, but in

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<v Speaker 2>doing so, he helped us win the war for understanding

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<v Speaker 3>That is a beautiful way to put it. This isn't

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<v Speaker 3>just about who was right or wrong. It's about how

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<v Speaker 3>the debate itself sharpened our tools to prob reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's set the stage. We need to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to nineteen twenty seven. The theoretical battleground. The core

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<v Speaker 2>of the disagreement was something called complementarity. Now this sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like relationship advice. You complete me, but I have a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling it's a lot more complicated, just a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>So the principle of complimentarity was Nils Bor's baby. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>in classical physics, the world of baseballs, planets, and cars,

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<v Speaker 3>you can know everything about an object at once. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>you can know exactly where a car is on the

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<v Speaker 3>highway and exactly how bast it is moving.

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<v Speaker 2>My GPS knows my location and my spidometer knows my speed.

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<v Speaker 2>No conflict there. I don't have to choose between knowing

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<v Speaker 2>where I am and knowing when.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll arrive exactly. But in the quantum world, Borr argued

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<v Speaker 3>that nature imposes a hard limit. There are pairs of

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<v Speaker 3>properties they're called conjugate variables that simply cannot be known

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<v Speaker 2>And the most famous pair is position and momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the one location and speedish momentum is mass times

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<v Speaker 3>of velocity. Bor said, you can design an experiment to

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<v Speaker 3>measure an electron's position perfectly, or you can design one

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<v Speaker 3>to measure its momentum perfectly. But you cannot, under any

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<v Speaker 3>circumstances do both at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And not because your tools are bad, not because you're clumsy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's the key. It's because nature itself forbids it.

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<v Speaker 3>The very act of measuring one with precision fundamentally blurs

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<v Speaker 2>I always try to visualize this because it feels so counterintuitive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, Okay, imagine you're trying to understand a piece

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I like where this is going.

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<v Speaker 2>If you pause the song, you can say, okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>exact millisecond, the note is a C sharp. You have

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<v Speaker 2>the position of the song perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, a frozen snapshot in time.

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<v Speaker 2>But in that frozen moment, there is no melody, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no tempo. You lose the momentum of the music.

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<v Speaker 3>That is actually a brilliant analogy. There's no rhythm.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, But if you let the song play, you hear

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<v Speaker 2>the melody, you feel the rhythm, and the speed of

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<v Speaker 2>the momentum, but you can no longer pin it down

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<v Speaker 2>to a single frozen instant. You can have the flow

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<v Speaker 2>or you can have the snapshot. You can't have both.

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<v Speaker 3>That captures the essence of it perfectly. And in the

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<v Speaker 3>quantum realm, it's not just a limitation of your hearing

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<v Speaker 3>or your pause button. The particle itself doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 3>defined position and momentum simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>This concept undergirds everything in quantum mechanics, including Heisenberg's uncertainty principle,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course, wave particle duality.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wave particle duality. This is the other big beasts

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<v Speaker 2>we need to wrangle before getting to Einstein's trap. This

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<v Speaker 2>brings us to the double slit experiment.

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<v Speaker 3>The classic but one experiment that if you can wrap

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<v Speaker 3>your head around it, you're halfway to understanding quantum mechanics.

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<v Speaker 2>It was first done with light by Thomas Young way

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<v Speaker 2>back in eighteen oh one.

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<v Speaker 3>Right with light, yes, But the really mind bending version

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<v Speaker 3>was in nineteen twenty seven with electrons. Because an electron,

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<v Speaker 3>we think of it as a particle, a little ball,

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<v Speaker 3>or a thing, a thing, and that's where our intuition breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's do a quick recap for anyone who hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>thought about high school physics in a decade. You have

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<v Speaker 2>a barrier with two vertical slits in it. You fire particles,

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<v Speaker 2>There's a detection screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct. Now, if particles were just like little tennis balls

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<v Speaker 3>or bullets, you would expect them to pass through the

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<v Speaker 3>left slit or the right slit and pile up in

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<v Speaker 3>two distinct bands on the screen behind them.

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<v Speaker 2>Two slits, two piles. Simple, that's what happens if I

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<v Speaker 3>But that is absolutely not what happens with quantum particles. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>you get an interference pattern. You see a series of

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<v Speaker 3>alternating bright and dark stripes fringes spread across.

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<v Speaker 2>The screen, And that's a wave phenomena.

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<v Speaker 3>It's only a wave phenomenon. And this is exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>water waves do. When two waves meet, the peaks add

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<v Speaker 2>So this proves that these tiny particles are actually acting

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<v Speaker 2>like waves. The electron leaves the gun as a particle,

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<v Speaker 2>through both sless at once, interfere with itself with itself,

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<v Speaker 2>in one specific spot exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>This demonstrates the wave nature of matter. But here is

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<v Speaker 3>the kicker, and this is where complimentary comes roaring back.

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<v Speaker 3>If you try to sneak a peak, if you put

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<v Speaker 3>the particle actually went.

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<v Speaker 2>Through, to force it to reveal its particle nature.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the moment you do that, the wave pattern disappears.

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<v Speaker 3>You just get the two piles of ten.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the part that always freaks people out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the universe is gaslighting us. Oh you're watching, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll behave Normally you're not watching, I'll get weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the ultimate observer effect. You can see the wave

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<v Speaker 3>the interference, or you can see the particle which path

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<v Speaker 3>it took, but you absolutely cannot see both. That's complementarity

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<v Speaker 3>in action, and that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is exactly what Einstein hated.

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<v Speaker 3>He detested it.

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<v Speaker 2>He hated the idea that the act of measuring changed reality,

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<v Speaker 2>or that the particle didn't have a defined path until

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<v Speaker 2>we looked. He felt there were holes and inconsistencies in

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<v Speaker 3>He called it spooky action at a distance. He wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to find a contradiction. He wanted to catch nature in

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to show that you could cheat, that you could,

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<v Speaker 2>in theory, know which path the particle took without destroying

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<v Speaker 2>the interference pattern.

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<v Speaker 3>And if he could do that, he would prove that

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<v Speaker 3>complimentarity was wrong and that quantum mechanics was at best

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<v Speaker 3>an incomplete theory.

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<v Speaker 2>So entered the gadankin experiment. The thought, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>setup that the Chinese team finally built in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk us through Einstein's brilliant, sneaky design. How did he

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<v Speaker 2>plan to outsmart the universe?

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<v Speaker 3>So Einstein looks at the double slit experiment and says, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I see the problem. Putting a detector right at the

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<v Speaker 3>slits that disturbs the particle. That's too invasive. So I

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<v Speaker 3>won't touch the double slits. I won't put a.

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<v Speaker 2>Detector there, Okay, hands off approach. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead, he proposes adding a third.

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<v Speaker 2>Slit, a third slit where before.

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<v Speaker 3>one single slit. The particles have to pass through this

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's like a funnel. They go through the

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<v Speaker 2>does that help, Einstein? It just seems like an extra step.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah. But here's the genius twist. Einstein said, Let's make

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<v Speaker 3>How Let's mount it on very sensitive, essentially friction free

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, bring this down to earth for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine a skateboarder standing on a floating raft in a pool.

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<v Speaker 3>It recoils exactly the raft recoils. Now imagine the skateboarder

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<v Speaker 3>For it to reach the top slit of the double

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<v Speaker 3>It imparts a tiny kick downwards on the single slit.

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<v Speaker 3>It pushes the single slit down.

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<v Speaker 3>And if the particle goes downwards towards the bottom slit,

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<v Speaker 3>what does it do to the single slit?

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<v Speaker 2>It kicks the single slit out precisely.

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<v Speaker 3>So Einstein's logic was, I don't need to look at

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<v Speaker 3>If the slit recoils down, I know the particle went up.

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<v Speaker 3>If the slit recoils up, I know the particle went down.

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<v Speaker 2>So he gets the witch path information.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets the particle information. Yes, he's using the conservation

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<v Speaker 2>And the beauty of this trap. The gotcha that Einstein

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<v Speaker 2>way over here. He argued that measuring the wiggle of

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<v Speaker 3>That was his bet.

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<v Speaker 2>So the particle should still act like a wave and

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<v Speaker 3>That was his argument. He said, Look, I have path

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<v Speaker 3>on the screen. Therefore, I have observed particle and wave simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 3>Checkmate or checkmate complimentary is broken. Quantum mechanics is incomplete.

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<v Speaker 3>God does not play dice.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds so solid. I mean, from a classical perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>it's flawless. If I throw a ball and it pushes

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<v Speaker 3>That's the intuition Einstein was banking on. He presented this

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<v Speaker 3>to Bor at the Salve conference, probably with a bit

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<v Speaker 2>But bor Bor was like the Jedi master of counter arguments.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't just say no. He supposedly spent a sleepless

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<v Speaker 3>He did, and this rebuttal is legendary. It's one of

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<v Speaker 3>at the setup and said, okay, Ahbert, let's look at

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Borr pointed out that to know which way the particle went,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to measure the recoil the change in momentum

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<v Speaker 3>of the slit very very precisely. You need to be

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<v Speaker 3>sure that the slit moved down just a tiny bit

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<v Speaker 3>and not, you know, just randomly jiggled right.

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<v Speaker 2>Otherwise you don't actually know the path. If you can't

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<v Speaker 2>measure the kick accurately, the whole experiment is pointless.

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<v Speaker 3>But Bore reminded Einstein the slit itself is a physical object.

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<v Speaker 3>It is made of atoms. It is therefore subject to

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<v Speaker 3>the laws of quantum mechanics too.

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<v Speaker 2>He turned the quantum weirdness back on the measuring device itself.

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<v Speaker 3>He did, he said, Albert, if you measure the momentum

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<v Speaker 3>of the slit with extreme precision, what happens according to

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<v Speaker 3>your friend Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, we're back to the music analogy. If you

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<v Speaker 2>know the momentum perfectly, the position becomes uncertain Bingo.

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<v Speaker 3>The more precisely you measure the recoil the momentum of

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<v Speaker 3>actually is in space.

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<v Speaker 2>So the slit starts what being fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 3>In a quantum sense. Yes, the uncertainty in the slit's

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<v Speaker 3>position gets larger and larger. And here's the kill shot.

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<v Speaker 3>If the slit's position is uncertain, if it's effectively wiggling

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<v Speaker 3>around or smeared in space, that uncertainty gets transferred to

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<v Speaker 2>So if the source the ways is wiggling all over

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<v Speaker 3>The pattern washes out, the peaks and Trotsky all jumbled up.

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<v Speaker 3>More calculated that the uncertainty in the slit's position would

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<v Speaker 3>constitute a blurring effect exactly large enough to completely wipe

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. So Bor's comeback was go ahead, Einstein,

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<v Speaker 2>measure the recoil. But the moment you measure it accurately

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<v Speaker 2>enough to know the path, the slit itself will jitter

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<v Speaker 2>enough to destroy the wave pattern you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. You can know the path recoil, but the

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<v Speaker 3>cost is the interference pattern. Complimentarity is saved. Nature covers

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<v Speaker 3>her tracks it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like nature has a built in privacy setting. You cannot

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<v Speaker 3>So in nineteen twenty seven, Bor won the debate on

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<v Speaker 3>the chalkboard. Einstein conceded the point, though he never really

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<v Speaker 3>gave up on his philosophical objection. But physics is an

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<v Speaker 3>experimental science, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You can argue math all day, but until you build it,

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<v Speaker 3>And that brings us to the present day, or rather

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<v Speaker 3>December thirty first, twenty twenty five. Why on earth did

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<v Speaker 3>to the moon, we have iPhone. Why couldn't we put

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds so simple when you say it like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's because putting a tiny slit on momentum sensitive

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<v Speaker 3>or photon is hard. Hard is an understatement. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>How small is the kick we're talking about? What's the scale?

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine a single mosquito crashing into an aircraft carrier. Do

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely not, No way, That's.

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<v Speaker 3>The scale of the problem. A photon or an electron

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<v Speaker 3>has almost zero mass. A mechanical spring made of metal

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<v Speaker 3>or even silicon is just astronomically too heavy. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even register the impact. It's lost in the noise.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did janway Pan in his team at the

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<v Speaker 2>University of Science and Technology of China crack this? They

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<v Speaker 3>They No, they did something much more clever. They realized

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<v Speaker 3>light enough that a single photon could push it around.

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<v Speaker 2>What's lighter than a piece of metal foil and.

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<v Speaker 3>Adam, a single rubidi atom?

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<v Speaker 2>Pause, the slit is an atom?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is the brilliance of the modern apparatus. They

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, my brain just stuttered. How does an atom act

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<v Speaker 2>as a slit, a slit? As a hole? An atom is? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a thing, a ball of matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Think of it less as a physical hole and more

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<v Speaker 3>as a scattering center, or like a traffic circle for

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<v Speaker 2>A roundabout right.

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<v Speaker 3>The photon comes in and interacts with the atom. In

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<v Speaker 3>light beam splitter. The photon offentively bounces off it and

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<v Speaker 3>can go one of two ways, left or right. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>But because the atom itself is so light and is

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<v Speaker 3>imparts momentum to it. It gives it a kick.

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<v Speaker 2>So the atom is the wall on springs. But where

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<v Speaker 2>are the springs. You can't just have an atom floating

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<v Speaker 2>in a vacuum. It would fly away or fall down

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<v Speaker 2>with gravity.

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<v Speaker 3>The springs are lasers, These remarkable piece of technology called

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<v Speaker 2>I love that term, optical tweezer. It sounds like a

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<v Speaker 3>It's exactly what it sounds like. By focusing laser beams

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<v Speaker 3>an energy trap trap made of light. Yes, the atom

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<v Speaker 3>is held right in the center of the beam. If

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<v Speaker 3>itself pushes it back. It behaves mathematically exactly like a

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<v Speaker 3>particle in a harmonic potential, which is just the fancy

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<v Speaker 3>physics way of saying it's sitting on a spring that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is so cool. So we have a single rubidium atom

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<v Speaker 2>trapped in a laser beam acting as the slit, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're firing a photon at it.

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<v Speaker 3>And crucially, they had to cool this atom down, way

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<v Speaker 3>way down to its ground state of motion within the trap.

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<v Speaker 2>Why does it need to be so cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Because temperature is just jiggling, it's random thermal motion. If

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<v Speaker 3>the atom is hot, it's already bouncing around wildly inside

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<v Speaker 3>the laser trap. You'd never be able to detect the tiny,

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<v Speaker 3>tiny kick from the photon against all that background noise.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be like trying to hear a pin drop at

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect analogy. They had to cool it until it was

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, so let me get the whole picture. Photon

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<v Speaker 2>comes in, hits the rubidium atom trapped in the laser springs.

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<v Speaker 2>The photon scatters left or right, creating the two paths

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<v Speaker 2>for interference. And as it scatters, it kicks the rubidium atom,

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<v Speaker 2>which recoils in the opposite direction exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's where it gets really interesting. The entanglement. The

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<v Speaker 3>of the photon.

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<v Speaker 2>They're linked.

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<v Speaker 3>They're linked. If the photon goes one way, the atom

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<v Speaker 3>goes the other. They are no longer two separate things.

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<v Speaker 3>They are a single quantum system. Measuring one instantly tells

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<v Speaker 2>So they aren't two separate things anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and now comes the test. After one hundred years,

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<v Speaker 3>they could finally ask the question, did they see what

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<v Speaker 3>Einstein predicted or what Poor predicted?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the most amazing part of this twenty twenty five experiment,

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<v Speaker 2>By varying the power of the lasers what they call

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<v Speaker 2>the trap depth, they could change how tightly the rubidium

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I see, So they could make the laser springs

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<v Speaker 2>And this dynamically tuned the rubidium atom's intrinsic momentum uncertainty.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's unpack that. If the trap is loose, the

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<v Speaker 3>springs are soft.

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<v Speaker 2>If the trap is loose, the atom can move around

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easily. This means if a photon kicks it, it

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<v Speaker 2>will recoil a measurable amount. You can see the kick.

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<v Speaker 3>So a loose trap equals a good recoil measurement, which

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<v Speaker 3>means you get good which path information.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you know which way the photon went. And in

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<v Speaker 2>that scenario, what did bar predict what happened to the

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<v Speaker 2>interference fringes on the screen.

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<v Speaker 3>They should disappear, vanish into a blur.

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<v Speaker 2>And they did. When they made the trap loose, reducing

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<v Speaker 2>the momentum uncertainty of the atom so they could see

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<v Speaker 2>the kick. The interference fringes on the screen became blurry.

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<v Speaker 3>They washed out four winds round one.

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<v Speaker 2>But then they turn the knob the other way. They

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<v Speaker 2>tightened the trap, made the laser springs really stiff. Now

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<v Speaker 2>the atom is held rigidly in place.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can't measure the recoil. The atom barely moves

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<v Speaker 3>when the photon hits it, so you have no idea

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<v Speaker 3>which way the photon went exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You lose the path information completely. And what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>the fringes?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me guess they came back sharp and clear, high visibility,

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<v Speaker 3>so they could literally dial it in. Turn the knob

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<v Speaker 3>towards know the path and the wave disappears. Turn the

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<v Speaker 3>knob towards, don't know the path and the wave appears.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a continuous transition. They could dial in fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>path information and get a fifty percent blurry pattern. It

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<v Speaker 2>matched bores predictions perfectly. The paper explicitly states that the

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<v Speaker 2>visibility of the interference is determined by the degree of

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<v Speaker 2>quantum entanglement between the photon and the slit.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that quote is heavy entanglement between the photon and

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<v Speaker 3>the slit. It means the measuring device, the slit, and

462
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<v Speaker 3>the thing being measured the photon aren't separate anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>They're one system.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the profound insight. Einstein wanted to treat the slit

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<v Speaker 3>as a passive bystander. He wanted to stand outside the

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<v Speaker 3>universe and look in without affecting.

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<v Speaker 2>It and bore and this experiment proved that the bystander

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<v Speaker 2>is part of the drama. You can't watch the show

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<v Speaker 2>without being on stage.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we've been painting a very clean, beautiful picture here

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<v Speaker 3>lasers Adams knobs. It sounds like it was designed by Apple. Yeah,

472
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<v Speaker 3>the ies lit, But reading through the source material, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like the actual execution had some messy reality to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with. It wasn't just smooth.

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<v Speaker 2>Sailing oh, it never is an experimental physics. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a major gotcha that almost ruined the entire data set.

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<v Speaker 3>Adam heating heating, But you just said they cooled it

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<v Speaker 3>to the ground state.

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<v Speaker 2>They did, But lasers aren't perfect. The powerful lasers forming

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<v Speaker 2>the optical tweezer have tiny, unavoidable frequency drifts, little jitters

481
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<v Speaker 2>in their color. These drifts caused the depth of the trap,

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<v Speaker 2>the stiffness of the springs to ramp up and down slightly.

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<v Speaker 3>And that shaking heats up the atom like going a cup.

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<v Speaker 2>Of coffee exactly. It scatters photons and adds energy to

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<v Speaker 2>the atom. This isn't the clean quantum recoil. This is

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<v Speaker 2>just messy random energy. Call this classical heating.

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<v Speaker 3>And why is that a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Because a hot, jiggling atom blurs the fringes too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I see the problem. You could look at

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<v Speaker 3>your blurry fringes and say, ah, quantum mechanics bore was right.

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<v Speaker 3>But actually it's just oops, our atom got hot and

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<v Speaker 3>is vibrating all over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, the classical heating was mimicking the quantum effect. They

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<v Speaker 2>had to distinguish between quantum blurring, which is the bore

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<v Speaker 2>effect and classical blurring, which is the heating effect. If

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't separate them, the experiment proves nothing. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>a broken thermometer.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds like an absolute nightmare. How do you take

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<v Speaker 3>the temperature of a single atom while you're in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of a delicate quantum experiment. You can't exactly stick

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<v Speaker 3>a thermometer under its tongue.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you do something much cooler. You use scanning ram

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<v Speaker 2>in spectroscopy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that sounds like something from Star Trek. Captain, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>picking up reedings on the scanning raman spectroscopy. Break that

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<v Speaker 3>down for US non starfleet officers.

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<v Speaker 2>So, rim spectroscopy is a technique used to probe vibrations.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually it's used for complex molecules, but here it works

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<v Speaker 2>for the single atom vibrating in the trap. It all

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<v Speaker 2>relies on how light.

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<v Speaker 3>Scatters, scattering like light bouncing off.

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<v Speaker 2>A wall sort of Imagine you shine a laser of

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<v Speaker 2>a very specific color a single wavelength onto the atom.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of the light will bounce off elastically.

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<v Speaker 3>Meaning it stays the same color, no energy change.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it goes in green, it comes out green, but

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<v Speaker 2>a tiny, tiny fraction of the light, maybe one photon

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<v Speaker 2>in a million, will scatter inelastically.

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<v Speaker 3>It changes color.

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<v Speaker 2>It changes color, Yeah, because it has exchanged a quantum

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<v Speaker 2>of energy with the atoms vibration. Think of it like

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a tennis ball at a moving train.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I like trains.

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<v Speaker 2>If you throw the ball at the front of the train,

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<v Speaker 2>which is moving towards you, the ball bounces back faster, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it gained energy from the train.

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<v Speaker 3>And if I throw it at the back of the train,

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<v Speaker 3>which is moving away.

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<v Speaker 2>Ounces back slower. It lost energy to the train. The

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<v Speaker 2>change in the speed of the ball tells you what

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<v Speaker 2>the train is doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. So, if the laser light gives some

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<v Speaker 3>energy to the atom to make it vibrate more, the

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<v Speaker 3>light comes out with less energy. It shifts toward the

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<v Speaker 3>red end of the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>And if the light steals some vibration energy from an

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<v Speaker 2>already jiggling atom, the light comes out with more energy.

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<v Speaker 2>It shifts toward the blue.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. By looking at the ratio of the higher

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<v Speaker 3>frequency blue shifted lights the lower frequency red shifted light,

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<v Speaker 3>they can calculate exactly how much the atom is vibrating and.

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<v Speaker 2>The vibration level is the temperature correct.

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<v Speaker 3>The population of the vibrational modes follows a known rule,

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<v Speaker 3>the Bose Einstein distribution. By measuring this ratio of scattered light,

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<v Speaker 3>they could calculate the atom's effective temperature in real time

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<v Speaker 3>during the experiment.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just incredibly clever. So they could look at

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<v Speaker 2>their data and say, Okay, the total blur is this much.

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<v Speaker 2>We know from our ramand scan that ten percent of

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<v Speaker 2>this blur is due to heat. Subtract that mathematically and

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<v Speaker 2>see what's left exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They calibrated for the heating effect, and once they stripped

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<v Speaker 3>away the noise of the classical heating, the pure quantum

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<v Speaker 3>effect was still there, matching Bor's prediction the pure signal,

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<v Speaker 3>the pure quantum signal. Bore was still right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing the lengths they had to go to. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not just building the trap, it's building the system to

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<v Speaker 2>check the trap. It's like building a car and then

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<v Speaker 2>building a separate robot to drive alongside the car just

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure the speedometer is working correctly. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why this paper is in Physical Review letters. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>tour de force of experimental control. They also mentioned something

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating about this, allowing them to see the quantum to

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<v Speaker 2>classical transition. Lock's that well. Because they can track both

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<v Speaker 2>the heating, which is a classical effect, and the entanglement

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<v Speaker 2>the quantum effect. They can actually observe the boundary. They

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<v Speaker 2>can see exactly where the quantum behavior gets swamped and

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<v Speaker 2>washed out by the classical noise.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like watching the fog roll in. You can see

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<v Speaker 3>the edge of it, the moment clarity turns into obscurity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and this leads us to the big picture implications.

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<v Speaker 2>Why does this matter? I mean, we all kind of

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<v Speaker 2>knew Bore was probably right. Textbooks haven't changed in eighty

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<v Speaker 2>years on this. Why go to all this trouble?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a few thoughts, but tell me yours first.

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you think this is so significant?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first, there's just the historical satisfaction. Realizing a famous

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<v Speaker 2>thought experiment is a milestone in itself. It's like finally

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<v Speaker 2>filming the ending of a script that was written in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty seven. It closes the loop, It honors the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree completely. It's a capstone on one of the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest arguments in science. It's respect for the giants.

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<v Speaker 2>But scientifically, it's more than that. It proves that interference

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<v Speaker 2>visibility is directly and quantitatively linked to entanglement. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>just some vague magic blur. It's a specific mathematical relationship

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<v Speaker 2>between the probe and the particle.

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<v Speaker 3>So it puts a number on the spookiness exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And what about the future. The authors made it clear

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<v Speaker 2>they aren't done yet. This was a one off experiment

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<v Speaker 2>just to prove a point.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they have big plans. They want to use something

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<v Speaker 3>called quantum state tomography.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomography, Yeah, like a CT scan for a quantum state.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great way to think about it. Instead of

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<v Speaker 3>just seeing the blurry result, they want to perform a

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<v Speaker 3>series of measurements that lets them reconstruct the full quantum

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<v Speaker 3>state of the slit, the atom. They want to directly

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<v Speaker 3>map out the entanglement, not just infer it from the blur.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to see the ghost in the machine.

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<v Speaker 3>They do, And I saw a note about scaling up,

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<v Speaker 3>which is maybe the most exciting part.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is the really sci fi part. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to gradually increase the mass of the slit. Right now

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<v Speaker 2>it's one atom, what if it's ten atoms? One hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand little nanoparticle.

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<v Speaker 3>A visible mirror eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they want to probe the interplay between decoherence, which

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<v Speaker 2>is when quantum weirdness fades away in the big, messy world,

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<v Speaker 2>and entanglement. At what point does a slip stop acting

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<v Speaker 2>like a quantum object subject to the uncertainty principle and

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<v Speaker 2>start acting like a classical wall that just sits there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the holy grail, isn't it Finding the line between

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<v Speaker 3>the quantum world and the everyday world we live in.

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<v Speaker 3>We know an electronics quantum, we know a bowling ball isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>But where is the line? Is there even a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sharp line exactly? And this experiment gives us a new

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<v Speaker 2>way to push that boundary, to see how big something

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<v Speaker 2>can be and still be spooky. It's essentially a new

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<v Speaker 2>tool to test ideas like Shrodinger's cat.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny we started this whole journey talking about Einstein

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<v Speaker 3>trying to break quantum mechanics. He designed this recoil slit

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<v Speaker 3>experiment to prove it was incomplete.

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<v Speaker 2>And in doing so he gave future generations the very

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<v Speaker 2>roadmap to prove how robust and strange it really is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the ultimate irony, the spooky action. He hated entanglement

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<v Speaker 3>is exactly what makes the universe work, and it's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what this experiment detected and measured.

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<v Speaker 2>Einstein might have lost the debate, but his skepticism forced

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<v Speaker 2>physics to be more precise, more rigorous. We wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>this deep understanding of the measurement problem and entanglement if

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<v Speaker 2>he hadn't challenged Bore so hard for so many years.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is a clash of the titans, where the

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<v Speaker 3>audience asks, a century later is the real winner?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So, as we wrap up this exploration, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to leave you the listener with a thought. We just

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how a single atom, a tiny speck of matter,

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<v Speaker 2>can act as a slit and blur reality just by

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<v Speaker 2>being involved in.

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<v Speaker 3>A measurement because its position became uncertain to preserve the

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<v Speaker 3>law of conservation of momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, if a single atom can have its position

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<v Speaker 2>smeared out across space because of the uncertainty principle, and

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<v Speaker 2>you and I are made of atoms, trillions upon trillions of.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, m M, I see where you're going with us?

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<v Speaker 2>Where exactly is the line? If every single atom in

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<v Speaker 2>your body is subject to these rules, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>blur when you walk through a doorway. Why doesn't the

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<v Speaker 2>chair you're sitting in turn into a probability wave when

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<v Speaker 2>you're not looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the mystery of decoherence and the measurement problem,

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<v Speaker 3>and experiments like this, the ones that are scaling up

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<v Speaker 3>from one atom to many, are the only way we're

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<v Speaker 3>ever going to find out if that line between our

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<v Speaker 3>world and the quantum world even exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we are all just giant walking interference patterns that

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<v Speaker 2>have decohered so completely. We just haven't built a big

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<v Speaker 2>enough screen to see the fringes yet.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a thought that will keep me up tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, thank you for joining us on this

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<v Speaker 2>analysis of the Ultimate Physics Showdown. It's been a pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>to unravel the universe with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Always a pleasure. Keep questioning the nature of reality.

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<v Speaker 2>See you next time.
