Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2: Nine day, Holy crap, I don't know who the hell
Speaker 2: we think when we.
Speaker 1: Are get off our show, idiot. The kids are crying
Speaker 1: or tray at. The coaches are screwing it up.
Speaker 3: Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, Goldplay Inner Murals.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 3: Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Here's nick coffee?
Speaker 4: All right? I'm here. I hope that that makes you happy.
Speaker 5: I hope that you were able to focus and do
Speaker 5: what you need to do today, take care of you
Speaker 5: know what, what you gotta take care of. I hope
Speaker 5: the worry of me not being here because of Jerry
Speaker 5: duty didn't impact your day. Because I'm here and I
Speaker 5: still don't know if I'm going to be needed to
Speaker 5: serve as a jury. But I did not get dismissed.
Speaker 5: In fact, John, I uh, I I was. I mean,
Speaker 5: I walked in, couldn't find a place to park, by
Speaker 5: the way. A ton of people there, humongous pool of
Speaker 5: jurors that you know, potentially will be asked to be
Speaker 5: on a jury or maybe not being needed at all.
Speaker 5: But once they kind of talked us through called role,
Speaker 5: I did feel like I was in school again because
Speaker 5: they quite literally have everybody sitting around and they meant
Speaker 5: they say your juror number juror number four seventy two
Speaker 5: by the way, uh, and then they say your name
Speaker 5: and you have to say, here, I haven't done that,
Speaker 5: and I can't tell you how long, you know, probably
Speaker 5: since I mean, I don't even know they really even
Speaker 5: they didn't call role in high school, did they?
Speaker 1: Like, there were certain teachers that did.
Speaker 3: But I think the further we've gotten into, you know,
Speaker 3: with newer technology and stuff like that, the less necessary
Speaker 3: it is to do role like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think even like the technically, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I guess when you like, was role call something that
Speaker 5: was only done like when you start school, like the
Speaker 5: first of the year kind of stuff, because I guess,
Speaker 5: I don't know. When you're in elementary school you have
Speaker 5: like assigned seats, like where you sit at your desk,
Speaker 5: and then they just noticed that you're not there.
Speaker 4: But anyways, you know.
Speaker 5: They explained what the process was, and I needed to
Speaker 5: hear every word because I had no clue how any
Speaker 5: of this works now I know. And then they had
Speaker 5: they had you come up if you were not someone
Speaker 5: that was going to be disqualified because of like you
Speaker 5: slipped through the cracks, right they they called you, but
Speaker 5: you got a felony or that you you don't live
Speaker 5: actually in Bullet County and you like your address was
Speaker 5: still there. So like that was one of the things
Speaker 5: that was kind of weird, Like if you've moved but
Speaker 5: haven't changed your address legally, which a lot of people
Speaker 5: don't do that immediately.
Speaker 4: Some people wait to do it.
Speaker 5: Like there were people that actually no longer lived in
Speaker 5: Bullet County but knew that if if they didn't, you know,
Speaker 5: if they didn't show up, then there would be a
Speaker 5: summons for them. So they said, if you feel like
Speaker 5: you might need to be excused or you have like
Speaker 5: some people brought like letters from their employer that they're
Speaker 5: the sole provider and like, and they that's why they
Speaker 5: call so many people, because you know, eventually they'll, you know,
Speaker 5: they'll they'll they'll get out who can't do it or
Speaker 5: who doesn't qualify, and then they'll have you know, they'll
Speaker 5: still have enough people. So I've gotten that line. And
Speaker 5: I kind of felt like, man, I don't know what
Speaker 5: they're gonna say. I'm waiting to go see the judge.
Speaker 5: I've never seen a judge in my life before. But
Speaker 5: I'm waiting in line to walk up, and it's like
Speaker 5: the courtroom. It's not you know, it's not like it's
Speaker 5: in some office. It's you know, he's sitting there in
Speaker 5: whatever you call that thing, the approach, the stand or
Speaker 5: is it the bench, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I almost call it the sanctuary.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's not so so anyways, I walk up there
Speaker 5: and I was like, I'm not sure if I if
Speaker 5: I'm disqualified or if this matters at all.
Speaker 4: But and man, there's no like I don't know why.
Speaker 5: But like it's always weird, like telling people what I
Speaker 5: do because maybe there's like a sliver of hope that
Speaker 5: they would think that's cool.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I used to like anytime I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm a radio.
Speaker 5: Host, like I feel like I'm coming off as if like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm a big deal, and I never want that to be.
Speaker 5: I mean, hex before too long, people might say, you know,
Speaker 5: what's the radio? I mean you never know, Like technologylogy
Speaker 5: changes over time that kind of stuff. But anyways, I
Speaker 5: just said, I'm not sure if my position on my
Speaker 5: platform that I have you know, if if if if
Speaker 5: that's something that would that would make me not you know,
Speaker 5: make you make you not want to have me a
Speaker 5: part of this. But I just wanted to make that clear.
Speaker 5: And because my worry was that I would go through
Speaker 5: all of this, I would have like arrangements made, I
Speaker 5: would meaning like to where I couldn't be here or something,
Speaker 5: and then when I actually I would have to serve
Speaker 5: on the jury, they would find out and tell me, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: you can't do this because so I just didn't know.
Speaker 5: But you know, the judge was pretty clear like yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean as long as as long as you know,
Speaker 5: as long as it's not going to like put you out,
Speaker 5: then you know, I don't And I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: well go sit down and I'll wait. So, uh, it's
Speaker 5: such a process and there's still a chance that like
Speaker 5: I may never actually go back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Just you just don't know. But I learned a lot
Speaker 5: I can. I can certainly tell you that. And of
Speaker 5: the hundreds of us there, I think there were over
Speaker 5: two hundred people there. There were twelve that were called
Speaker 5: to be on the grand jury, and that is and
Speaker 5: again I'm I thought I knew what that was, and
Speaker 5: I was I think I was right, But like, these
Speaker 5: are people who are essentially deciding if someone is going
Speaker 5: to have like charges brought on them, right like they're
Speaker 5: gonna be indicted or whatever. And they did mention that's
Speaker 5: a little bit of a different process, and he said
Speaker 5: that you know this, there'll be you know, you will
Speaker 5: have a little bit more. We're gonna basically in some
Speaker 5: form of fashion, he kind of indicated they're gonna need
Speaker 5: you a little more than they're gonna needybody else. So
Speaker 5: I didn't want to be called for that, and I
Speaker 5: was not. And then as soon as those twelve people
Speaker 5: that were called for the grand jury left the courtroom
Speaker 5: to go with somebody who was employed at the courthouse
Speaker 5: to kind of, I guess, you know, explain a little
Speaker 5: further as far as what they're going to have to do,
Speaker 5: that he did say, yeah, now I can say it,
Speaker 5: that's probably what you don't want to do because that
Speaker 5: apparently that's like that's going to be an all day
Speaker 5: thing for everybody, like whenever, whenever that that happens. And
Speaker 5: there's a lot of criminal cases obviously that like don't
Speaker 5: go to trial because people you know, they take a
Speaker 5: plea and and you know there's no trial needed, no jury.
Speaker 5: So with the with with being on the grand jury,
Speaker 5: like that's that's that's like an everyday thing, right, Like
Speaker 5: the grand jury is going to decide are they gonna
Speaker 5: is somebody gonna be you know, held account of is
Speaker 5: somebody gonna be in trouble or not. So I was
Speaker 5: happy for for to not be a part of that.
Speaker 5: And now I just have to wait. I got to
Speaker 5: call a number and figure out if if I if
Speaker 5: my number is on the you know, I guess the
Speaker 5: list of.
Speaker 4: Those that are going to be needed.
Speaker 5: So I still really don't know how it's gonna impact
Speaker 5: me over the next h and by the way, it's
Speaker 5: for the next three months October, November, December. I am
Speaker 5: in this pool of people that could potentially be needed.
Speaker 5: Uh and uh, A lot of things don't end up
Speaker 5: going to trial, it sounds like. And the judge was
Speaker 5: pretty direct, and I'm glad he did say this that
Speaker 5: like there's there's often times where you think you're gonna
Speaker 5: have a jury trial and then sure enough, day of
Speaker 5: the plea is entered and there's not one needed. So
Speaker 5: I still don't know, uh, but I guess we guess
Speaker 5: you shall see.
Speaker 1: So how does is the grand jury thing completely random?
Speaker 1: Like could you could you have gone into that or
Speaker 1: do you have to have a certain qualification?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: No, it's of all the people that you know, of
Speaker 5: the two hundred, it's just a they literally, like, I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know how they're going about it. They weren't
Speaker 5: like picking ping pong balls out of a bucket with
Speaker 5: numbers on them. But there was a there was some
Speaker 5: level of process where they were pulling numbers and if
Speaker 5: your number was called, then you then you went up there.
Speaker 1: Gosh, imagine if you were on the grand jury or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 5: And I don't know, if you know. I think he's
Speaker 5: being honest. He's a judge, he should be, but he
Speaker 5: did because they ask. And by the way, there was
Speaker 5: like eight dates that like, hey, these are dates that
Speaker 5: like you have to be these are dates that.
Speaker 4: Like we need to know are you going to be
Speaker 4: available or not?
Speaker 5: And every single one of them that he called said
Speaker 5: they're available and they're willing to serve. And he was
Speaker 5: very thankful because again, like you know, he was that
Speaker 5: was really cool experience to just see the process. But
Speaker 5: also I was very impressed with the judge, but he
Speaker 5: was thankful anybody who said yes. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess it's nice that you're thinking them also,
Speaker 5: you know, like it's kind of their duty, right.
Speaker 4: But he did say after all.
Speaker 5: Of them ended up, it seated in where you would
Speaker 5: see sit as a jerry in a courtroom. He said
Speaker 5: he thinks that's the first time they've ever gone through
Speaker 5: twelve people and not a one of them said yeah,
Speaker 5: there's this date that date that I know that I
Speaker 5: can't do it. So then I kept worrying that like
Speaker 5: they're going to have half of them say no, they
Speaker 5: can't do it, and then it'll get to me. And
Speaker 5: I'm just going to tell you I would be scared
Speaker 5: to say no because like I kind of feel like
Speaker 5: eventually it would be impacting me, you know, professionally, to
Speaker 5: where like I would have a legitimate reason if I
Speaker 5: told them like, yeah, hey, if I can't do this,
Speaker 5: then like it's going to it's going to impact my
Speaker 5: job or whatever, not because my employer would be like
Speaker 5: holding it out against me and retaliating because I've left
Speaker 5: to go do Jerry duty.
Speaker 4: But like what we do is different, like it's weird.
Speaker 5: Like, for example, you know, a big part of how
Speaker 5: I make money to do this is clients and endorsements,
Speaker 5: and like, if I'm not here to do exactly that
Speaker 5: on this platform, that's a big part of my money
Speaker 5: that I wouldn't get. So you know, not to say
Speaker 5: that like that would actually end up happening. But if
Speaker 5: you know, you just never know. So we'll see. I
Speaker 5: will say this. I really felt like Bullet County was
Speaker 5: small town America because of the two hundred people I
Speaker 5: saw four people I went to school with that I
Speaker 5: have not seen probably since we were in school. Two
Speaker 5: of them I forgot existed, And I'm like, wait a second,
Speaker 5: I know that guy. I was in school with him
Speaker 5: for I think every every year we were in school
Speaker 5: my cousin's name was called, he wasn't there.
Speaker 4: He didn't show up.
Speaker 5: I think he was able to provide some type of
Speaker 5: proof that he could be excused, But like, what are
Speaker 5: the chances my cousin, who, by the way, didn't grow
Speaker 5: up in Bullet County but happened to move there later
Speaker 5: in life, and then I saw somebody who listen to
Speaker 5: the show. It was like, I thought I'd see you here,
Speaker 5: So it felt like such a small world. But then again,
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, you know, Bullet County like it's po dunk.
Speaker 5: I'm sure the way Jefferson County residents maybe maybe not
Speaker 5: all of them, and it is smaller than Jefferson County substantially.
Speaker 5: But I looked this up because I was just curious, John,
Speaker 5: and you're a Bullet County native yourself. Bullet County is
Speaker 5: a top ten county in the state as far as population.
Speaker 3: That does that surprise you? That would have surprised me
Speaker 3: maybe five or ten years ago. But with the amount
Speaker 3: of people who were moving out this way from Jefferson County,
Speaker 3: especially out where I live in Mount Washington, that's not
Speaker 3: as surprising.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why traffic sucks out there.
Speaker 5: So I got to take my daughter to gymnastics in
Speaker 5: Mount Washington this evening, and I just I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: prepared to sit in awful traffic and then ask myself, like,
Speaker 5: I get it, Mount Washington's a beautiful place, but like
Speaker 5: I quite I would absolutely factor in Mount Washington traffic
Speaker 5: when it comes to visiting there unless I had to
Speaker 5: moving there. Like it's I mean, you actually live in
Speaker 5: a spot where you don't really like you could avoid
Speaker 5: it because you could.
Speaker 3: Get like I'm like right on the edge of the
Speaker 3: Shepherdsville Mount Washington line.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you can go forty four at certain times
Speaker 5: in not be impacted. But like we went from Shepherdsville
Speaker 5: to you know the other side of forty four, meaning
Speaker 5: where it's you know, past Barchtown Road. We left my
Speaker 5: son's football game last week it like I don't know,
Speaker 5: maybe twelve thirty and we were taking my daughter to
Speaker 5: her grandmother's house, which is just straight down forty four
Speaker 5: past Bullet East, and no accident, like nothing, no big event,
Speaker 5: but just like traffic that sucked. And you wouldn't usually
Speaker 5: think that you'd get traffic like that in rural a
Speaker 5: rural area. I mean, it's not like we're in the
Speaker 5: middle of nowhere. I mean, clearly there's a ton of
Speaker 5: stuff going on out there now, but like it, traffic's crazy.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, I guess more than anything, it's
Speaker 5: just because i've I mean i've been I've i haven't
Speaker 5: lived there my whole life, but I've been you know,
Speaker 5: I was born and raised in Bullet County. When I
Speaker 5: did leave the county to move elsewhere, it was just,
Speaker 5: you know, probably a couple of miles away from the
Speaker 5: county line. I was away at school for a little while.
Speaker 5: I lived with my parents who live out in out
Speaker 5: in Jaytown. So I don't know, I just felt it
Speaker 5: was like very very random, and you know, small world.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm thinking, well, hey, I guess it makes sense.
Speaker 5: I've been here my whole life. But like, there's eighty
Speaker 5: five thousand residents in Bullet County that surprised you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like a pretty big number.
Speaker 5: So Jeffersy County is the biggest, and it's not even close.
Speaker 5: Seven hundred and seventy one thousand is the population as
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty four, according to World Population review dot com.
Speaker 5: Lexington the second biggest, but it's three hundred and twenty thousand,
Speaker 5: So think about the difference there, And then I would say, again,
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about these counties, but other counties
Speaker 5: in the top ten that surprised me. But again it's
Speaker 5: not because I mean, I was just surprised because I
Speaker 5: guess I didn't realize. Oh yeah, Campbell County, that's a
Speaker 5: big part of northern Kentucky. Boone County. So northern Kentucky's
Speaker 5: a big area as far as population, but the counties
Speaker 5: are kind of split.
Speaker 4: So like you've got Kenton, Boone, and Campbell.
Speaker 5: I think that those three represent that big area of
Speaker 5: northern Kentucky. But Warren County, Bowling Green that's it for
Speaker 5: Hardin County is really big. That's it's big geographically, Yes,
Speaker 5: that's right. In fact, I think it might be one
Speaker 5: of the biggest geographically. But it's also up there in
Speaker 5: population Davis County that's that's Owensboro area. And then Madison
Speaker 5: County is that like is that Hopkinsville Maybe, Like I
Speaker 5: don't know, Like, well said Madisonville, but yeah, Madison County.
Speaker 5: I've heard of it, but I don't know, like what
Speaker 5: big city that Richmond, So yeah, I guess yeah, Richmond, Yeah,
Speaker 5: right outside of Lexton there. So anyways, yeah, I don't Again,
Speaker 5: I wish I thought today would be the day, like, hey,
Speaker 5: here here's what you know. You're gonna either not be
Speaker 5: needed at all or you're gonna be needed, and this
Speaker 5: is the day. But I got to call a number
Speaker 5: on September the thirtieth, to see if I am if
Speaker 5: I'm needed. So there you go, and thank you to
Speaker 5: those that have reached out to kind of share their
Speaker 5: stories of you know, the Jerry Do Dooo process, and
Speaker 5: in most of the people who have like chimed in
Speaker 5: since I've mentioning this the last couple of days have
Speaker 5: said that, yeah, they went through this process only to
Speaker 5: never actually be needed. They weren't called to do anything.
Speaker 5: So we'll see. All right, well, let's get the show started.
Speaker 5: Show we fifteen minutes in and I've just been yapping
Speaker 5: about this Jerry duty situation. It is Coffee and Company.
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Speaker 5: take you up till six o'clock. We're going to talk
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Speaker 5: some Louisville football talk cards.
Speaker 4: And Notre Dame.
Speaker 5: We'll do that coming up at a three point thirty,
Speaker 5: and we'll also talk to doctor Larry Ben's in the
Speaker 5: four o'clock hours. So a couple of guys are going
Speaker 5: to join us, and there's certainly a lot to get into.
Speaker 5: We're getting closer and closer to the big game, and
Speaker 5: it is a big game. I mean, we were It's
Speaker 5: not like we play Notre Dame all the time. But
Speaker 5: this will be the third matchup between these schools. In fact,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, this will be the fourth time these teams
Speaker 5: have played in the last five years, so you know,
Speaker 5: and then you won't play them again until twenty thirty two,
Speaker 5: think or it might be twenty thirty six.
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't. I mean I it's one of those dates.
Speaker 5: So anyways, a couple of joint us to talk about
Speaker 5: that A quick update for those that are interested. And
Speaker 5: I only, like, I know a lot of people don't
Speaker 5: care about betting on sports and I get it, and
Speaker 5: I'm not really doing this to like tell you what
Speaker 5: you should do when it comes to wagering, but I
Speaker 5: just think it's interesting to see those that are betting
Speaker 5: on this game what they're doing. And Sports Line does
Speaker 5: a good job of giving us, you know, an indication
Speaker 5: of how much you know, the percentage of those that
Speaker 5: are betting on Louisville or Notre Dame when it comes
Speaker 5: to the spread and the percentage and the money, the
Speaker 5: percentage in and you know what's going on in the
Speaker 5: money line as well. So you know, I'm not trying
Speaker 5: to position Louisville as some you know team that's being
Speaker 5: disrespected and doubted in a major way. But you know,
Speaker 5: Notre Dame lost in Northern Illinois. That loss has not
Speaker 5: aged well in any way. And Louisville, you know, they
Speaker 5: they haven't played anybody that is great. I think Georgia
Speaker 5: Tech's a solid team that will end up being you
Speaker 5: know that the rest of the way, and all of
Speaker 5: it did look great in that game. And you know,
Speaker 5: some and I was listening to some of these sports
Speaker 5: betting shows I listened to, and you know a lot
Speaker 5: of people are claiming Louisville, you know, their score little misleading,
Speaker 5: and I'm not sure if I'm sensitive to that, because
Speaker 5: maybe they're right. You don't usually see a team collect
Speaker 5: a special team's touchdown and a defensive touchdown in a game.
Speaker 5: And without those two big plays that Louisville made, you know,
Speaker 5: it could have been a different game. But it's also
Speaker 5: not as if, like, well, that was just pure luck.
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech deserved to win the game. Like if you
Speaker 5: have a pun or you have a you have a
Speaker 5: field goal blocked, Like that's not I mean like that
Speaker 5: that doesn't happen that often. But that's not like bad
Speaker 5: luck for for for for Georgia Tech. Same thing with
Speaker 5: that defensive touchdown. So anyways, I just don't know. I
Speaker 5: thought there'd be a little more picking Louisville to win
Speaker 5: the game. So only eight percent of the wagers that
Speaker 5: have been made on moneyline bets are on Louisville to win.
Speaker 5: So you know, despite Notre Dame having that bad loss
Speaker 5: at home and again, Notre Dame does have a win
Speaker 5: against Texas A and M that quite literally is better
Speaker 5: than any Louisville win up to this point, Like we
Speaker 5: know that.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just I'm confident in this Louisville team. I think
Speaker 5: they can go there and win. It's if we'd end
Speaker 5: up doing our postgame show on Saturday, and you know,
Speaker 5: it's it's it's not. It's not a victory, like I'm
Speaker 5: not going to be floored. It's not as if like
Speaker 5: it's going to be a stunner. But I think they've
Speaker 5: got the tools the personnel to go up there and win.
Speaker 5: I think they've got the edge when it comes to
Speaker 5: the coaching matchup, and you know, we shall see. I
Speaker 5: just felt like Notre Dame losing to Northern Illinois and
Speaker 5: then not really being impressive, not covering against Miami Ohio team,
Speaker 5: Like I just I kind of felt liked be a
Speaker 5: little more love for Louisville to go up there and
Speaker 5: win the damn game. But you know, we haven't got
Speaker 5: there yet. Maybe we hear that as we get closer
Speaker 5: to the matchup. Like the biggest story in college football
Speaker 5: today is, without a doubt, the quarterback at UNLV quitting
Speaker 5: on his team. Matthew Sluca has decided to quit, and
Speaker 5: we look, I'm saying quit because that's what he did,
Speaker 5: but I'm not at all saying he did something wrong.
Speaker 5: But this is the first player that has decided, Hey, yeah,
Speaker 5: the money is not here. I was told i'd be
Speaker 5: paid this and they've not done that. So I'm leaving.
Speaker 5: I'm going to bail and take a red shirt, which
Speaker 5: means I will obtain the final year of eligibility. I've
Speaker 5: been able to play three games, put some good film
Speaker 5: out there. He started his career at Holy Cross and
Speaker 5: he ended up transferring to NLV. Pick them because they
Speaker 5: were throwing some big money his way, at least he thought,
Speaker 5: and you know, that money never came, and he had
Speaker 5: he's been told that the money that he was I guess,
Speaker 5: assuming he'd get through conversations in the recruiting process, will
Speaker 5: not be there. So once he found out that, hey, yeah,
Speaker 5: the money you were told you were going to make,
Speaker 5: that's not happening, he decided, well, okay, then I'm going
Speaker 5: to leave, so I don't fault him. This is actually,
Speaker 5: in my opinion, the biggest piece of evidence if we
Speaker 5: needed it, and I'm not sure we needed it, by
Speaker 5: the way, but it is absolutely going to make it
Speaker 5: quite clear to anybody who was in doubt that this
Speaker 5: is not pro sports. This is pro sports. This guy
Speaker 5: took a job. He was said to be paid one
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars to take the job. He's not being
Speaker 5: paid for the job. Would you go to work if
Speaker 5: your money wasn't what you were told to be? I mean, no,
Speaker 5: you wouldn't. I mean, and if you did, be foolish.
Speaker 5: So you know, it's really it, he said, she said,
Speaker 5: And we'll get in We'll get into the specifics a
Speaker 5: little bit later on as far as everything that this
Speaker 5: guy is claiming this quarterback, Matthew Sluka everything he's claiming
Speaker 5: on his end, and then also the response from the
Speaker 5: collective at UNLV, the UNLV Athletic department, because it's a
Speaker 5: he said, she said situation right now, And here here's
Speaker 5: another reminder. Not not only does this that this is
Speaker 5: professional sports, but like this is all just make like
Speaker 5: make it up as you go and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's almost like dealing being like dealing drugs
Speaker 5: because there's no real rules in place. There's nobody to
Speaker 5: enforce it, like, you know, even like he didn't have
Speaker 5: a contract, by the way, and that's that's an issue.
Speaker 5: That's his agent's fault, I suppose. But even if he
Speaker 5: did at a contract, have a contract, I don't think
Speaker 5: this thing's gonna be ironclad. Like I feel like they
Speaker 5: could not pay you, and like just assume you would
Speaker 5: hire a lawyer and sue him.
Speaker 4: And you probably would.
Speaker 5: Like it's just such a you know, I hate using
Speaker 5: the cliche of the wild, wild West. I mean that
Speaker 5: is kind of what it is. But to me, it's
Speaker 5: like a drug dealer getting robbed or not getting the
Speaker 5: amount of or a drug perch, you know, somebody buying
Speaker 5: drugs and they paid a certain amount of money, but
Speaker 5: they didn't get the right, the right take right the
Speaker 5: actual drugs. It wasn't the amount that they paid for.
Speaker 5: What you can do, call the cops. No, you think
Speaker 5: they're gonna help you, Absolutely not. That's what happens. Like
Speaker 5: this is there's no there's no real rules and regulation
Speaker 5: and there's nobody actually enforcing it. So like you're sol
Speaker 5: if you're if you're this young man, and I'm sure
Speaker 5: he wanted to stick around. UNLV's good. They're three and zero,
Speaker 5: like they're just outside the top twenty five. They're viewed
Speaker 5: right now as a team that could potentially be in
Speaker 5: line for that G five spot in the playoff. But
Speaker 5: they don't have money to pay this guy and he
Speaker 5: he's leaving. So you know, I don't really know who's
Speaker 5: fully at faultier in fact, just from what I know
Speaker 5: right now. And we'll see, you know, we'll see if if,
Speaker 5: if we get more proof as far as what really happened.
Speaker 5: But there's a coach for UNLV, the OC. It sounds
Speaker 5: like who told this kid he'd make one hundred thousand
Speaker 5: dollars and that isn't happening. And also because nobody really
Speaker 5: knows what you are and aren't allowed to do as
Speaker 5: a coach. UNLV's going to come out and say that,
Speaker 5: you know, that's not true. No coach told him what
Speaker 5: money he'd make, because that's not we know, that's against
Speaker 5: the rules. So that's where it gets down to it,
Speaker 5: he said, she said thing, And I mean if anybody
Speaker 5: out there believes that no coach has any like knowledge
Speaker 5: or involvement in the actual money. Now again, they're not
Speaker 5: paying them themselves because why would they. It's money coming
Speaker 5: from a big booster within an IL deal or a
Speaker 5: big company that's willing to help, or the collective. But
Speaker 5: like coaches have to be like I don't it would
Speaker 5: be you know, as far as like how everybody's being
Speaker 5: taken care of. That's where you have kind of like
Speaker 5: a GM that works directly with your collective.
Speaker 4: But like, this is just a mess.
Speaker 5: And today was the first big reminder of that, I
Speaker 5: think since the season started and coaches that were doing
Speaker 5: teleconferences today for their conference or press conferences potentially. I
Speaker 5: don't know how many coaches do pressers on Wednesdays, but
Speaker 5: you know, I know Lane Kiffen in some former fashion
Speaker 5: talked about it. I'm sorry, not Lane Kiffin. It was
Speaker 5: Kirby Smart and Brian Kelly, who I believe were on
Speaker 5: the SEC Coaches teleconference. I think that's what they were doing,
Speaker 5: and they, you know, they essentially said what we all know, Yeah,
Speaker 5: this won't be the last, like I'm sure this is
Speaker 5: going to happen again. So it's a mess, and I
Speaker 5: really don't know the fix for it, to be honest
Speaker 5: with that. I think this is just the world we're in,
Speaker 5: and I think the NCAA does not have the resources
Speaker 5: to truly regulate this and police this. But it still
Speaker 5: falls on them for not in any way wanting to
Speaker 5: get out in front and trying their best to regulate
Speaker 5: and have a process, because what they've always done is
Speaker 5: to just tell people know you can't like they've they've
Speaker 5: been resistant to players getting money in any way forever,
Speaker 5: and they've been consistent with that for decades. And that's
Speaker 5: why they're now trying to get in, you know, get
Speaker 5: out in front and tell you what you can and
Speaker 5: can't do, only to then find out that actually, no
Speaker 5: Congress said you're not allowed to tell this school they
Speaker 5: can't do that, or keep them from doing this and that.
Speaker 5: So it's a mess, it really is, and that's not good.
Speaker 4: For the sport.
Speaker 5: But I don't really know for sure who it falls on.
Speaker 5: I'd say, though, if there's one person to point a
Speaker 5: finger at right now, it's the NAA for not realizing
Speaker 5: what they've been doing forever is just not sustainable. And
Speaker 5: sure enough it blew up in their face to where
Speaker 5: they were told you can't legally tell these student athletes
Speaker 5: they can't make money. All right, quick break, Alex Cupper's
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Speaker 5: the one, the only mister Alex Kupper who joins us
Speaker 5: here on Sports Talk seven ninety cup. I'll start with
Speaker 5: this just straight up, do you ever get jealous about
Speaker 5: some of the big opponents that you see on the
Speaker 5: schedule for the cards that you didn't get a chance
Speaker 5: to play against. I know you played against a lot
Speaker 5: of really good teams and good players. NFL guys, Pittsburgh
Speaker 5: had some great teams. West Virginia, the Big East of course,
Speaker 5: was a solid league, but you know Florida State, Clemson,
Speaker 5: Notre Dame. Like, I mean, it's out of your control.
Speaker 5: You had a great career, but do you ever feel like, man,
Speaker 5: I wish I could have gone to South Bend and.
Speaker 6: Played absolutely So that's why that's why I'm going up
Speaker 6: to watch them this weekend to take it all in.
Speaker 6: Before I've been when I was a miss God, probably
Speaker 6: ten or so, I remember going up to catching a game,
Speaker 6: so it's yeah, I have been been a while, but
Speaker 6: you know, it is it is something like you put.
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously one of the most famous movies is
Speaker 6: based out of it, so it's like it is like
Speaker 6: a movie. When you go up there, you feel like
Speaker 6: you're just in literally football town. So it's pretty sweet.
Speaker 6: That's what I remember.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like there's gonna be a good chunk
Speaker 5: of Louisville fans that make their way up there and
Speaker 5: it there.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many.
Speaker 5: I'm sure there are plenty of stadiums where people say, well,
Speaker 5: you know, it was a great experience, you know, if
Speaker 5: you get a chance to go. But I feel like
Speaker 5: Notre Dame's rare to where, like you you probably see
Speaker 5: people making a trip at some point if they're big
Speaker 5: college football fans, that may not even be a game
Speaker 5: that features their team.
Speaker 4: Like I just think Notre Dame.
Speaker 5: And again, I don't want to gas them up too
Speaker 5: much and make them feel, you know, even more air
Speaker 5: because they're ergant for sure. But like it's it's it's
Speaker 5: a really really cool place. I've actually not been there
Speaker 5: for a football game. I went for a basketball game,
Speaker 5: and just the campus and the vibe, it's it's certainly
Speaker 5: an awesome experience. So I'm uh, I'm a little envious.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be able to make the trip, but
Speaker 5: I know you're gonna You're gonna represent Cardination well up there,
Speaker 5: and uh hopefully they bring back a victory before we
Speaker 5: get to the Irish though. Uh, Georgia Tech game, what
Speaker 5: stood out to you? Obviously, you know, not a clean
Speaker 5: game for the Cards. I think Georgia Tech does a
Speaker 5: pretty good job of making it clear that making making
Speaker 5: it to where teams can't play clean football. But just
Speaker 5: some takeaways from from Louisville's first win against ACC competition.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think it was nice to see uh,
Speaker 6: you know, up and up the level of competition, the
Speaker 6: size and the speed that Georgia Tech had. I mean,
Speaker 6: Haines King is actually a really good precursor to what
Speaker 6: they're going to see this weekend with Kylie Leonard and
Speaker 6: and the ability we had to make the make those
Speaker 6: run fit adjustments and how we played how we played
Speaker 6: them defensively in the second half. I think I thought
Speaker 6: it was excellent, you know, seeing whenever you see your
Speaker 6: defense and special teams score two touchdowns for you, that
Speaker 6: is that is a really Banner Day. So I mean
Speaker 6: you and I say all that, and I don't really
Speaker 6: feel like the offense played that bad. I mean I can't.
Speaker 6: I can't think of multiple three and outs or or
Speaker 6: multiple times where we weren't able to at least get
Speaker 6: something going offensively. There's a lot of penalties that kind
Speaker 6: of stymied us, but yeah, there was there's big plays
Speaker 6: to be had out there, and we made a ton
Speaker 6: of them. So I think overall, you know, you know,
Speaker 6: performance wise, all three phases, uh all, they didn't play great.
Speaker 6: They're still still better football to play, but they played solid,
Speaker 6: and that's what you do when you get a twelve
Speaker 6: point win against a conference opponent.
Speaker 5: So the run game never really never really got going.
Speaker 5: And I know they're missing Maurice Turner, and I don't
Speaker 5: even think that that that the the running backs. I
Speaker 5: can't think of the guy's name of transfer from Miami goodness, gracious,
Speaker 5: Donald Cheney. I mean, I don't even think he's fully healthy.
Speaker 5: I know he dealt with something in one of the
Speaker 5: first couple of games, but you know, was that something
Speaker 5: was that? Do you think that was just you know,
Speaker 5: a good a good job by Georgia Tech from limiting
Speaker 5: it was it. I mean, I'm just curious as to
Speaker 5: why you thought maybe. I mean, neither team honestly got
Speaker 5: running much at all. In fact, Haines King was the
Speaker 5: one guy who was able to break free for a
Speaker 5: for a couple of big plays. But offensive line. Again,
Speaker 5: there's new pieces here on the trend from the transfer portal.
Speaker 5: I know, when we talked before the season started, you know,
Speaker 5: you mentioned losing some guys that they they really really
Speaker 5: leaned on last year. Just you know, I'm not asking
Speaker 5: you to tell me if you're worried about the old
Speaker 5: line or not, but just you know, I'm because the
Speaker 5: run game is going to need to get going at
Speaker 5: some point.
Speaker 6: No agreed. And I mean it's again that step up
Speaker 6: in physicality. That's probably the first the first group that
Speaker 6: really felt it just because of the you know, the
Speaker 6: differences between a D one, a D one front seven
Speaker 6: versus or you know, a power five front seven versus
Speaker 6: you know, maybe a group of five or a one
Speaker 6: double a school. So those you know, you really feel
Speaker 6: that physicality and that size and that speed. So again
Speaker 6: another good precursor to what they're going to face this week,
Speaker 6: which is in a very stout front seven probably one
Speaker 6: of the better ones in the country if we're being
Speaker 6: honest in Notre Dame. So yeah, I think you know,
Speaker 6: you got options along the front, but you definitely need
Speaker 6: to figure out, you know, a solid right side of
Speaker 6: the line. You know, not not going to put anybody,
Speaker 6: you know, throw anybody out there. But it's just there
Speaker 6: was there was some leakage and some times where it's like, man,
Speaker 6: you got we gotta gotta buckle it down. And you know, again,
Speaker 6: I think that group didn't play it's best ball, But
Speaker 6: there's there's good enough football in there to to piece
Speaker 6: together a really good front that can battle battle the
Speaker 6: the Irish this weekend and then everybody else left on
Speaker 6: our schedule.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if it's I don't know if
Speaker 5: it's fair to say that Notre Dame is a team
Speaker 5: that's that's tough to figure out. But they won on
Speaker 5: the road at Texas A and M, which at this
Speaker 5: point still looks like a pretty good win for them,
Speaker 5: and then they lost to Northern Illinois, a loss that
Speaker 5: has aged poorly for them. They beat the hell out
Speaker 5: of Purdue and then kind of a whole hume effort
Speaker 5: against Miami of Ohio only scored twenty eight points in
Speaker 5: that game. Riley Leonard, their quarterback who transferred in, just
Speaker 5: has one touchdown pass on the season. What do you
Speaker 5: what do you make of this Notre Dame team? We
Speaker 5: never we never expect them to not have the pieces.
Speaker 5: They're always going to recruit at a high level and
Speaker 5: they're going to do well in the portal, just like
Speaker 5: all the other big time programs. But just what we're
Speaker 5: what what worries you most about this Notre Dame team
Speaker 5: in this matchup?
Speaker 6: I think just how I mean really what we what
Speaker 6: we spoke about the physicality that they can bring and
Speaker 6: and really inflict they're there. They do not as you mentioned,
Speaker 6: they do not want to see this thing go up
Speaker 6: and down. They don't want to see big plays where
Speaker 6: they're where they're you know, even on their on their
Speaker 6: own offense, you know, quick quick drives where their defense
Speaker 6: is having to grind out series and and really wear
Speaker 6: itself down, because I don't think they're they have the
Speaker 6: firepower to do that, so they they definitely want to
Speaker 6: make it ugly, ugly or I would say they want
Speaker 6: to try and turn you over so that they can
Speaker 6: gain some possessions because they need every single one they
Speaker 6: can get clearly offensively. So yeah, they're they're going to
Speaker 6: try and uh not make it as you know, a
Speaker 6: show stopping affair, but you know it. I think from
Speaker 6: a from a going on the road perspective, that's that's
Speaker 6: kind of plays into you know, you don't have to
Speaker 6: be too you don't have to gamble too much, as
Speaker 6: they say, and you can kind of let the game
Speaker 6: progress as long as long as you start fast and
Speaker 6: you can get ahead of them. That's that's going to
Speaker 6: be the ticket, honestly, is if you're if you're making
Speaker 6: them play from behind. Uh, Northern Illinois kind of put
Speaker 6: them in that predicament where they were like, man, we're
Speaker 6: not you know, we're not out of this game, but
Speaker 6: we're not winning it. So we got to you know,
Speaker 6: step up and try and uh make plays that we're
Speaker 6: not comfortable enough making. So that's that's where you want
Speaker 6: to get to when you're playing a team on the road.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think in that in that Northern Illinois game,
Speaker 5: it was it was was right there for.
Speaker 4: Them the whole time.
Speaker 5: But because of the pace and just the style, Notre
Speaker 5: Dame was never really able to make a big play
Speaker 5: and swing the momentum and uh and Iu was able
Speaker 5: to hold on and win it. I mean, Twitter and
Speaker 5: thirty eight rushing yards per game for Notre Dame on
Speaker 5: the ground and numbers can be a little misleading when
Speaker 5: you only have four games to go off of, but
Speaker 5: it's still something. I mean, I would you say that's
Speaker 5: probably one of the top keys for coach brom and
Speaker 5: his staff is to just try to not let them
Speaker 5: run the clock and just get that run game going.
Speaker 5: Easier said than done. They've been They've done a good
Speaker 5: job at it so far this year.
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely. If you're if you're gonna have somebody beat,
Speaker 6: it's got to be Riley Leonard. I mean period. If
Speaker 6: if he if you walk out of that stadium on
Speaker 6: Saturday and Riley Leonard, you know, makes an unbelievable performance
Speaker 6: where he's throwing the ball and you know, like he's
Speaker 6: the guy that did it, then it's like, Okay, tip
Speaker 6: your hat, good player. They went and got him for
Speaker 6: a reason. But I mean, I've put my odds on
Speaker 6: on if that's the case, and they're he's having to
Speaker 6: make majority of the plays. You know, we've we've had
Speaker 6: a lot of success playing against them, so we should
Speaker 6: we should have a little familiarity on what he likes,
Speaker 6: what he likes in the in the past game, and
Speaker 6: then you know what kind of tendencies he has when
Speaker 6: things break down and how he likes to scramble. So hopefully,
Speaker 6: hopefully we got a good book on him.
Speaker 5: It felt like last year it was Sam Hartman against
Speaker 5: Notre Dame. That that Jeff I mean, and obviously his
Speaker 5: entire staff, not just him alone. But they were going
Speaker 5: to try to make Sam Hartman make all the big plays,
Speaker 5: and he had some big numbers and it looked good.
Speaker 5: But man, they saw something they could throw out there
Speaker 5: that that rattled him. That was a I mean, he
Speaker 5: came back in a different jersey, but the same result
Speaker 5: for Sam Hartman where he probably never wants to come
Speaker 5: back to Louisville again. But speaking of quarterbacks, Tyler Shuck,
Speaker 5: obviously he's been pretty good all year. First game we
Speaker 5: saw him against you know, legitimate competition. You still feel
Speaker 5: pretty good about who we have under center?
Speaker 6: I do, yes, I mean, if if anything stock rising, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, just I mean, it's the poise. I'm sure
Speaker 6: you've heard. Yeah, I'm sure You've heard everyone say it
Speaker 6: just gotta stay healthy kind of thing, which is a
Speaker 6: no brainer obviously. But yeah, I think the poise apparently
Speaker 6: you know, I talked you know, a couple of staffers
Speaker 6: and that Chris Bell touchdown was not that was not
Speaker 6: a call from the sideline. That was a call from
Speaker 6: number nine. He made it.
Speaker 4: I like hearing that.
Speaker 6: Made route adjustment keyed in. It was something that they
Speaker 6: I mean, they didn't really rep He just understood what
Speaker 6: they were trying to do to him, and he he
Speaker 6: knew you know what receiver had to run away from
Speaker 6: run away from the uh from the pressure, and get
Speaker 6: in space. And that was Chris Bell. So that was, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I was learning that because I don't think I didn't
Speaker 6: know that. I mean obviously you wouldn't know that, but uh,
Speaker 6: knowing that, and then some of the throws he made,
Speaker 6: that one where Jacorey was able to do a three
Speaker 6: sixty inst I mean that ball it can't be under
Speaker 6: you know, underspoken how well and how much air you
Speaker 6: have to put under the ball that's exactly where to
Speaker 6: be held up, held up. Knows he's getting the flag
Speaker 6: because everybody sees the but and he's still able to
Speaker 6: spin around and oh my gosh, there's a ball here,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna catch it. Like that's that is That is
Speaker 6: a very very well from football. That's yeah.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, it's a guy who played on
Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball and he played for
Speaker 5: a really really good played with a really really good quarterback.
Speaker 5: Can the rest of the offense feed off of a
Speaker 5: guy it really is out there, I mean not necessarily
Speaker 5: just making plays, but you know, having the confidence and
Speaker 5: the belief in himself to make the switch there and
Speaker 5: find Chris Bell. I just feel like, is a guy
Speaker 5: who's out there with the offense that's got to energize you.
Speaker 5: And if you're feeling good about the guy who's under
Speaker 5: center calling the shots, leading the offense, I mean, that's
Speaker 5: that's best case scenario.
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely. And if you and if you do, and
Speaker 6: they will get into tight spots where they're they're you know,
Speaker 6: they're up against it. They got there going up against
Speaker 6: the defense. Might be this weekend where you know they
Speaker 6: just got our number, can't get anything going. I mean
Speaker 6: you can find one on one coverage. There's one on
Speaker 6: one coverage every single weekend, every series, and we have
Speaker 6: guys like Brooks and like Bell and then hopefully calling
Speaker 6: they say where you. You know, all you got to
Speaker 6: do is get them in that one on one matchup
Speaker 6: and your guy can make a throw like that, you
Speaker 6: know it's in there yet. That should give you all
Speaker 6: the comfidences in the world that you're only one play
Speaker 6: away from getting back on schedule. Getting big drives started
Speaker 6: putting points on the board and flipping the entire you know,
Speaker 6: game on its head. So yes, that does. That does
Speaker 6: wonders when you have a guy in your center like that.
Speaker 5: All right, last one for you when you hate you
Speaker 5: when you make your way up to to South Bend.
Speaker 5: Are you going with the boys? You going with your
Speaker 5: your little ones in the family. Is it a family
Speaker 5: trip or just you know, I'm trying to live through
Speaker 5: you on this trip.
Speaker 6: Cup there. I'll send you lots of pictures and videos. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Actually it's a little bit of both. Mark, my good
Speaker 6: buddy has kids around the same age, so we're we're
Speaker 6: doing family and friends.
Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 6: I have a big and I know a lot of
Speaker 6: other folks that go in as well. So hopefully we
Speaker 6: can bring the energy, you know, turn the place read
Speaker 6: and U take home with victory.
Speaker 5: Good stuff, safe travels, have a good time, and I'm
Speaker 5: confident the Cards are going to be bringing the victory back.
Speaker 4: So enjoy yourself. Cup, appreciate you, brother.
Speaker 5: I see man, all right, that's Alex Cupper, former little
Speaker 5: of Card and I'll always appreciate his insight. Good stuff there. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm jealous. I had well, I don't have a car,
Speaker 5: I couldn't go. I wanted to, to be honest with you,
Speaker 5: so I was gonna. It just did make sense to
Speaker 5: go up there with the postgame show and whatnot and
Speaker 5: pregame show and just you know, I've been in Notre
Speaker 5: Dame and you know it's a cool experience, and I
Speaker 5: am jealous of people going. It just didn't make a
Speaker 5: whole lot of sense for me. But I'm I know
Speaker 5: the Notre Dame mentioned that they were sending tickets back
Speaker 5: to be sold, because I'm sorry UFL had sent tickets
Speaker 5: back for Notre Dame to sell. But I mean, I
Speaker 5: still think you're going to see a lot of fans there.
Speaker 5: I mean I feel like like one in every three
Speaker 5: Louisville fan I talked to is like, yeah, we're going,
Speaker 5: and we've been planning on going for you know, months now,
Speaker 5: So all right, quick break, we'll come back on the
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Speaker 5: All right, so we are wrapping up the three o'clock hour,
Speaker 5: and we got a lot more to get into. But
Speaker 5: I found out today that I was not excused from
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Speaker 5: gonna have to actually do anything, like I got to
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Speaker 2: And I heard this yesterday because I was catching up
Speaker 2: listening to podcast. It's it's been a hectic week trying
Speaker 2: to get ready for this festival again.
Speaker 5: You do you literally you have like eight jobs within
Speaker 5: this company, So I get it.
Speaker 2: Yes, So it wasn't even and I'm just confused about
Speaker 2: how the whole, the whole Kentucky thing goes because you
Speaker 2: said he had an orientation, right, yeah, right, So like
Speaker 2: they weren't choosing you in this orientation.
Speaker 5: So I showed up one of two hundred people and
Speaker 5: they called roll and it was everybody there, and after
Speaker 5: that they explained the process to where really today was
Speaker 5: the day where you could go in front of the
Speaker 5: judge and either give a note saying that you clearly
Speaker 5: are excused you can't do it, or you could say
Speaker 5: why you might not be able to do it, or
Speaker 5: maybe why they wouldn't want you to do it, and
Speaker 5: then they just explained, you know, and they selected a
Speaker 5: grand jury among all of us, and I was not
Speaker 5: one of those that was selected for the grand jury,
Speaker 5: which I was happy about because that actually does take
Speaker 5: a lot of time. So, you know, from now until
Speaker 5: the end of December, so the next three months, I'm
Speaker 5: part of a jury pool and I will have to
Speaker 5: on certain dates call and check to see if I'm
Speaker 5: somebody that's been selected. So and what you know, again,
Speaker 5: this is all new to me. But there's a lot
Speaker 5: of times that like they have cases that they think
Speaker 5: is going to end up needing a jury trial, but
Speaker 5: at the last minute, sometimes day of it doesn't need
Speaker 5: that's not needed because somebody has a play or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's when I did it. And this was
Speaker 2: back in Arizona. I wasn't even eighteen for like three
Speaker 2: weeks before I get the jury summons and back then,
Speaker 2: or maybe it was just then. Maybe it varies from
Speaker 2: different states, but I was just told, you're going to
Speaker 2: go in and sit in this room and basically you
Speaker 2: just have to do it one day and if you
Speaker 2: don't get called, then you're excluded until whenever the hell
Speaker 2: that they need you again. I wasn't there for five
Speaker 2: minutes and I got called. Immediately, I brought out my laptop.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to try to kill some time. And
Speaker 2: then I got called in me and like forty other
Speaker 2: people and then we went into this room and then
Speaker 2: they like started breaking down. The judge asked, you do
Speaker 2: you know any of these people part of the case.
Speaker 6: Do you know.
Speaker 2: About like this store that's a part of or whatnot?
Speaker 2: And then where do you work? And I guess I
Speaker 2: was working at Chuck E Cheese at the time, So
Speaker 2: I was just your average ordinary eighteen year old kid,
Speaker 2: and I played a pivotal part in this guy being
Speaker 2: basically let off the hook because it was it was
Speaker 2: like a week of doing it and everyone was just deliberating.
Speaker 2: It got to that Friday and then then judge said,
Speaker 2: if you guys don't find anything, we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: come back Monday. And in these when you're deliberating, it
Speaker 2: has to be incomprehension and inconclusive, one hundred percent, like
Speaker 2: there was no one wavering. And then we were all
Speaker 2: just kind of halfway there, and I just stood up
Speaker 2: and I'm ready to get out of there. I said, guys,
Speaker 2: you heard the judge, right, he said, if we don't
Speaker 2: come up with something today, we're gonna have to come
Speaker 2: in Monday.
Speaker 4: And you're the eight. You're the kid.
Speaker 1: You're the kid.
Speaker 2: And they wanted to try to make me the foreman
Speaker 2: of the group, and I'm like, no, I can't do that.
Speaker 2: So we go up there and then we just found
Speaker 2: this guy basically not guilty, where he read off all
Speaker 2: his charges.
Speaker 1: It's pretty a.
Speaker 2: Harrowing experience, just a weekend start, right, yeah, just to
Speaker 2: get the weekend story. I'm trying to get back to
Speaker 2: the chuck, you know. And then like it's pretty harrowing,
Speaker 2: you like kind of when you're reading the guy that's sentencing,
Speaker 2: if he's free or not, like he was kind of
Speaker 2: mouthing us thank you, and then his his his family's crying,
Speaker 2: he's crying, this guy's just basically let free, right, and.
Speaker 5: You're eighteen years old, probably not even really able to
Speaker 5: comprehend what's actually going on, right, Like it probably years
Speaker 5: like hearing me talk about it probably took you back
Speaker 5: to that right where we're like, yeah, this is kind
Speaker 5: of crazy for an eighteen year old kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was absolutely wild, andy, And you got like
Speaker 2: throughout the whole witnesses coming up. You got people crying
Speaker 2: and there this is an armed robbery case where you
Speaker 2: know people are using firearms, so you have people that
Speaker 2: are like sitting there like crying and pointing out that's
Speaker 2: the man I know that had a gun at me
Speaker 2: and blah blahlah, and then he had other things that
Speaker 2: just kind of didn't add up.
Speaker 4: So I just said heavy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty heavy.
Speaker 2: And so we found this guy, long and short of it,
Speaker 2: found him not guilty, and then we're just all sitting there.
Speaker 2: At the end of the whole thing, he gets a
Speaker 2: walk free and I was like one of the last
Speaker 2: ones to leave on the elevator, and that's when the prosecutor,
Speaker 2: the state prosecutor, came out and he said, well, it's
Speaker 2: good that we got the same guy on the same
Speaker 2: charge at a different one across town because you guys
Speaker 2: didn't do your damn job. And he just went down
Speaker 2: the elevator. He said that as the doors were closing,
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, it's pretty fun.
Speaker 5: I'm quite sure you're gonna have You're gonna have a
Speaker 5: better jury story than I ever will.
Speaker 1: Pretty fun.
Speaker 4: It's fun stuff.
Speaker 2: If you've never done it, h'its your civic duty.
Speaker 4: Well appreciate you sharing that. Again.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm not gonna have anything that cool.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a lot.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 4: We got to run four o'clock hours next.
Speaker 5: Right here, it's four stock seven ninety