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Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised. Hi, this is Tanya.
Speaker 2: Hi this is Shannon, and we are Crimes.
Speaker 1: And Consequences, a hardcore true crime podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya, how you doing?
Speaker 1: I am good. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2: I am doing pretty good? How about you?
Speaker 1: Life is a sweet fruit?
Speaker 2: Yes, it is in family. Oh bring the flavor, don't
Speaker 2: they yell?
Speaker 1: It's that time of year, right, You're subjected to your
Speaker 1: family and yeah.
Speaker 2: And surround and enjoy and love and other things too.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, you know, but I do. I have
Speaker 2: a funny story I want to tell you. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: hear it, all right. So Brooke and I Brooke is
Speaker 2: my twenty two year old daughter for those of you
Speaker 2: who don't know, and she is eighteen and a half
Speaker 2: weeks pregnant. So yes, I'm going to be a grandma. Randy,
Speaker 2: you know, it's going to create. And we know he's
Speaker 2: a boy. We call him beans. So anyway, Brook and
Speaker 2: I so Brooke, we were talking about how like herreditary,
Speaker 2: our rage seems to be her hereditary. Just your common
Speaker 2: conversation over breakfast, and she goes, it was just so
Speaker 2: funny because you know, there's that formality of oh hey mom,
Speaker 2: oh hey honey, blah blah blah. And once she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I remember this one time when you got mad, and
Speaker 2: just her inflection, I was like, Oh my gosh, she's
Speaker 2: gonna be this sounds like I might have left something
Speaker 2: that needs therapy or that's this sounds like cor bevery.
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh exactly. She goes, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember you were looking for your ATM card. She goes,
Speaker 2: I don't remember the bank. It was Huntington. She goes,
Speaker 2: we pulled over. You had been digging her out out
Speaker 2: of the side frantically, and you were getting mad and mad,
Speaker 2: and she goes, and then we pulled over and you
Speaker 2: got out. You started looking all over the car. It
Speaker 2: was went under the seat and you grabbed it and
Speaker 2: you put it right in your face and you yelled
Speaker 2: cut except that I really laid on the oud like
Speaker 2: and I said, Brooklyn, you know that's me mad at
Speaker 2: the universe. Yeah, yelling at the universe, not the card.
Speaker 1: You know, just Sat eighty eight.
Speaker 2: She can't put anything away. It's not normal, it's not
Speaker 2: natural to do so, so just for her to share
Speaker 2: it as a I remember this rage story. I can
Speaker 2: you know? What? Is she ten? And I'm all like, motherfucker,
Speaker 2: where is this card?
Speaker 1: Yes, my daughter has a core memory of me screaming
Speaker 1: at her. She was probably five or six, and she
Speaker 1: was either at Brownies or what is it when they're
Speaker 1: like before Brownies?
Speaker 2: I forget, Yes, I know what you mean, at the
Speaker 2: Little Blue.
Speaker 1: Best right, and she was running around and running around.
Speaker 1: I had told her to stop it, and she's running,
Speaker 1: running running. When we got in the car, I fucking unleashed.
Speaker 1: I like screamed at her and everything. So she says,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a core memory of mine, and I said,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was before I was medicated.
Speaker 2: I'd like to point out the importance of mental health, yea,
Speaker 2: all of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before I rested my health. And I do apologize
Speaker 1: for that, and I'm sorry that I've scarred you for
Speaker 1: life with that.
Speaker 2: But I love it that He's like, yeah, mom, and
Speaker 2: it's a core memory.
Speaker 1: So now you know, I'm like, oh great, Oh we
Speaker 1: do our best. I know. So, yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was fabulous, you know. So we've started our children. But anyway, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, well I'll get into the episode now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, Yes, before I started, just remind everyone to
Speaker 1: hit subscriber or follow. And our story takes place on
Speaker 1: July eighteenth, twenty fourteen, and it's around eleven am. A
Speaker 1: man named Dan Markle was driving home. He had dropped
Speaker 1: his kids off at preschool and then he went to
Speaker 1: the gym for a workout before driving to his house,
Speaker 1: which was in Benton Hills, which is a suburb of Tallahassee, Florida.
Speaker 2: Okay, Dan had i'd been in.
Speaker 1: The midst of a bitter divorce and custody battle with
Speaker 1: his wife, whose name was Wendy Adelson. Both Dan and
Speaker 1: Wendy were law professors at Florida State University. Dan's family
Speaker 1: lived in Canada, and so he had an agreement with
Speaker 1: his mom that when he was driving he would call
Speaker 1: her to decompress. So on this date, he also had
Speaker 1: an arranged phone call with a teacher at a potential
Speaker 1: school for one of his sons. His soon to be
Speaker 1: ex wife wanted to change the school their children would
Speaker 1: be going to the following year because like she had
Speaker 1: enrolled them without discussing it.
Speaker 2: With Dan.
Speaker 1: Oh, and so the phone call with the teacher was
Speaker 1: meant to discuss what had happened and why the school
Speaker 1: would be a good fit. So after hanging up with
Speaker 1: his mom, he called the teacher. As he continued his drive.
Speaker 1: With so much going on, Dan didn't notice that there
Speaker 1: was a silver green Prius that was following him. But
Speaker 1: when Dan pulled into his driveway in front of his house,
Speaker 1: he told the teacher that he was talking to you know,
Speaker 1: hold on, he said, there's someone in my driveway that
Speaker 1: is unfamiliar to me. Then Peter heard a loud grunt,
Speaker 1: muffled voices, and labored breathing. He asked if Dan was okay,
Speaker 1: but Dan never returned to the call. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm guessing the teacher hung up. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you know, something's happening, and one of Dan's neighbors heard
Speaker 1: a gunshot. He looks in the direction of Dan's house
Speaker 1: and he sees the garage door was up and thought
Speaker 1: Dan was backing out, but instead he sees this silvery
Speaker 1: green Prius leaving the driveway. So after a while he's
Speaker 1: noticed that Dan's car hasn't moved, and so he went
Speaker 1: to go check on Dan. Looking in the driver's side window,
Speaker 1: he saw his neighbor. Dan had been shot in the
Speaker 1: head through the glass. Window was shattered and there was blood,
Speaker 1: but Dan was still alive and moving.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: He called the police and unfortunately, though the dispatcher made
Speaker 1: an error in the prioritization of the call and categorized
Speaker 1: it as a traffic accident. So the first mobitter arrived
Speaker 1: at the house expecting to see like a fender bender,
Speaker 1: but you know no, and ambulance arrived nineteen minutes after
Speaker 1: the initial phone call. Dan was transported to Tallahassee Memorial Healthcare.
Speaker 1: After the shooting, the police set up crime scene tape
Speaker 1: to keep drivers and pedestrians from going down the road.
Speaker 1: When this had been done, one of the officers noticed
Speaker 1: a maroon Honda Odyssey that had tried to make a
Speaker 1: turn onto the street soon after the shooting, and this
Speaker 1: fan ended up belonging to Wendy Adelson, Dan's ex wife
Speaker 1: or soon to be ex wife, who lived a short
Speaker 1: distance away from Dan. Wendy Adelson was found the afternoon
Speaker 1: of the shooting at a local restaurant where she was
Speaker 1: having lunch with friends. The police drove her to the
Speaker 1: station about two point thirty. They didn't hear any details
Speaker 1: about why she was being brought in during the drive there.
Speaker 1: When she sat down with an officer after they arrived
Speaker 1: at the station, she was told that Dan had been
Speaker 1: shot and he wasn't likely to survive. As soon as
Speaker 1: she heard this news, she burst into tears, and she
Speaker 1: began to sob uncontrollably. They inquired about her plans for
Speaker 1: the day, you know, They were like, where what are
Speaker 1: you been?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, She said she'd been home earlier in the day
Speaker 1: waiting for a TV repairman. One of her sons had
Speaker 1: thrown a toy into their new flat screen TV, and
Speaker 1: the TV was a divorce gift from Wendy's older brother, Charlie,
Speaker 1: and they were trying to see if it was worth fixing.
Speaker 1: After the repairman left, she got ready for lunch with
Speaker 1: her friends, and then she ran to the liquor store
Speaker 1: to buy a bottle of bourbon for a stock the
Speaker 1: bar wedding party that evening. During the highly emotional interview,
Speaker 1: Wendy was asked if there was anyone she knew who
Speaker 1: would want to get killed Dan. She said no. However,
Speaker 1: later in the interview, she spoke of a bad joke
Speaker 1: that her brother Charlie had made about the television he'd
Speaker 1: given her. He said, I looked into hiring a hit
Speaker 1: man and it was cheaper to get you the teeth.
Speaker 2: Hah yeah yeah, real nee slapper right.
Speaker 1: Even after disclosing this to police, Wendy doubled down that
Speaker 1: her brother would never have actually hired anyone to kill
Speaker 1: her husband. Going on to further explain, Wendy detailed that
Speaker 1: she was involved in ongoing litigation regarding the split of
Speaker 1: financial assets and connection with her divorce. Said that her
Speaker 1: parents were extremely angry with Dan, but they would never
Speaker 1: say a bad word about her children's father in front
Speaker 1: of the kids. When the police asked about Charlie, they
Speaker 1: inquired into what type of car he drove. Describing her
Speaker 1: brother as a bit of a character, Wendy told him
Speaker 1: that Charlie is a periodontist who owns several cars, including
Speaker 1: an unmarked police car. I told them that he's a
Speaker 1: workaholic who starts early in the morning and goes until
Speaker 1: late at night, so if they wanted to find him,
Speaker 1: they could look at one of the many offices he
Speaker 1: worked in throughout South Florida. The interview with Wendy lasted
Speaker 1: five hours.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wendy expressed concern that whoever had been after her husband
Speaker 1: would probably be coming for the kids next which I
Speaker 1: don't know why to sleep but right, you know. And
Speaker 1: the police hadn't found any evidence of a break in
Speaker 1: and determined that the shooting wasn't random and somebody wanted
Speaker 1: Dan dead. Wendy had been asked about being seen trying
Speaker 1: to turn onto the road that Dan lived on with
Speaker 1: her kids, and she said she drove by regularly to
Speaker 1: help her like herself, process like her feelings about the divorce.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: However, it was mentioned later that it was strange she
Speaker 1: didn't call or reach out to anyone with concern about
Speaker 1: the crime scene tape surrounding live in. Right right after
Speaker 1: they were done questioning her, she asked the police if
Speaker 1: she should get a sitter for her children while she
Speaker 1: was going out that night at the stock the bar party.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, And this seems kind of weird because it
Speaker 1: was her week to have the kids. She was supposed
Speaker 1: to pick them up from preschool that afternoon, and she
Speaker 1: had these plans for this party. So if she was
Speaker 1: going to get a sitter. You think she would have
Speaker 1: had one by then, right right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And unless the party was family friendly, but a stock
Speaker 1: the bar party really does.
Speaker 2: Dream doesn't sound bring your kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't say all age is fun, right.
Speaker 2: Kids welcome? That means get a sitter, No kids please,
Speaker 2: That's just desire.
Speaker 1: So let me tell you a little bit about Dan.
Speaker 1: He was born October ninth, nineteen seventy two, making him
Speaker 1: a Libra libra, libra mail, libra mail. He achieved a
Speaker 1: mastery in political theory from Cambridge, and he went on
Speaker 1: to earn a law degree from Harvard in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2: I know la la.
Speaker 1: He was active in the Jewish faith, and after he graduated,
Speaker 1: he won a prestigious fellowship that allowed him to spend
Speaker 1: a year's studying philosophy at Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how what an opportunity, What a great
Speaker 2: life experience, right exactly.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and five, Dan began teaching at Florida
Speaker 1: State University's College of Law, where he grew into a
Speaker 1: respected expert in criminal law and generously gave of his
Speaker 1: time and energy to be well connected in that field. Dan,
Speaker 1: who was thirty three years old at the time. He
Speaker 1: and Wendy met on jay Date, which is a niche
Speaker 1: dating website for people of the Jewish faith. If you
Speaker 1: didn't know, Wendy was an attractive twenty six year old
Speaker 1: law student at the University of Miami who had earned
Speaker 1: a master's degree in international relations at Cambridge. Her family
Speaker 1: ran a successful dental practice in Tamarack, and the two
Speaker 1: got married in two thousand and six. Wendy was offered
Speaker 1: a job as a clinical professor at Florida State University
Speaker 1: as a spousal hire. I had no idea that that
Speaker 1: was a thing me either, but my nice and her
Speaker 1: focus was on human trafficking issues between Dan and the Addlsons.
Speaker 1: Wendy's family began right away. While both the Markles and
Speaker 1: the Addlsons were Jewish and both families were each paying
Speaker 1: for half of the wedding, the Adelsons purchased catering that
Speaker 1: didn't follow Kosher guidelines. Yeah, that seems weird.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: After guests had already begun eating, Dan was put in
Speaker 1: the unfortunate position to announce to his guests that the
Speaker 1: food was not kosher, which upset several people. I got,
Speaker 1: I know Additionally, Dan was told by the Adelsons to
Speaker 1: downplay his accomplishments so as not to overshadow Wendy during
Speaker 1: the wedding.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so you don't provide culture food at
Speaker 2: your Jewish wedding, and then you got a downplay so
Speaker 2: someone else can feel good. Are you kidding me? Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, yeah, Dan, yeah, I just I don't get it,
Speaker 2: so I don't either.
Speaker 1: During their marriage, they welcomed two boys, Benjamin and Lincoln.
Speaker 1: Dan was an exceptional father. He was tremendously proud, and
Speaker 1: he was heavily involved in his son's lives. As time passed,
Speaker 1: he decided he would like to immerse his boys in
Speaker 1: their faith, and he made an effort to begin observing
Speaker 1: some of the more orthodox beliefs in the Jewish faith.
Speaker 1: While he had wanted to begin observing Kosher meals, Wendy
Speaker 1: didn't desire to make this change. This led to her
Speaker 1: having to prepare meals in her home separately. Dan began
Speaker 1: traveling for work, leaving Wendy at home to care for
Speaker 1: the kids alone. She would often make trips to southern
Speaker 1: Florida to spend time with her her parents and brothers.
Speaker 1: When Dan was gone, and it was clear she was
Speaker 1: unhappy living in Tallahassee and she wanted to move back
Speaker 1: to Miami where that had more of like an urban feel.
Speaker 1: In twenty eleven, This is Our Story, which was a
Speaker 1: novel that was self published by Wendy Adelson. It came
Speaker 1: out and side note It received a three point three
Speaker 1: out of five on Goodreads Okay. The novel told the
Speaker 1: story of a human trafficking attorney, Lily. Lily's character was
Speaker 1: in a very unhappy situation after moving to a rural
Speaker 1: town in Florida with her husband, Josh. Josh professor. Yes,
Speaker 1: sound familiar.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, they always say write what you know?
Speaker 1: What you know? His character was made out to be
Speaker 1: disrespectful to his wife and dismissive of her accomplishments. In
Speaker 1: the novel, Lily's character ended up leaving suddenly. She left
Speaker 1: behind worse papers for Josh to sign and moved away
Speaker 1: with a child she secretly adopted from a client who
Speaker 1: wasn't able to take care of the infant. Wendy admitted
Speaker 1: that Lily was somewhat quote unquote autobiographical character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, loosely based my life, yeah.
Speaker 1: Saying in the afterward of the novel. Quote, I selfishly
Speaker 1: wanted you to know a bit about my story, which
Speaker 1: has much, but not all, in common with Attorney Lily
Speaker 1: end quote. Apparently Dan never read his wife's novel, because
Speaker 1: if he had, he maybe wouldn't have been so surprised
Speaker 1: when on September tenth, twenty twelve, just over a year
Speaker 1: after the novel was released, Wendy left. Dan returned home
Speaker 1: from a business trip and discovered that his wife had
Speaker 1: taken the two kids, most of the household possessions, and
Speaker 1: she left with no clue as to where they'd gone.
Speaker 1: Divorce papers were lying on the bed in the master bedroom.
Speaker 2: Wow, no right, So the.
Speaker 1: Divorce between the law professors to be very messy. For weeks,
Speaker 1: Wendy refused to tell him where she and their sons
Speaker 1: had gone. Dan made efforts to reconcile with his wife,
Speaker 1: even telling her that he would move to Miami immediately
Speaker 1: to keep their family together. My poor Wendy, it was
Speaker 1: too little, too late. Wendy had taken her children from Tallahassee,
Speaker 1: seven hours south to her parents' home in Coral Springs,
Speaker 1: which is one of the suburbs between Miami and Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just wise. I do know where Coral
Speaker 2: Spriggs is because on my Zillow list of homes I'll
Speaker 2: buy when I hit the lottery, Coral Sprigs looked like
Speaker 2: a lovely suburb of Miami, just well located. I've got
Speaker 2: a couple condos.
Speaker 1: Well there you go.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, well you said carl I was like, I
Speaker 2: know where that it is place. Thank you Zillow. Yes.
Speaker 1: She was relieved to have been able to return to
Speaker 1: her parents and brother, Charlie, with whom she had a
Speaker 1: close relationship with. Her older brother, Robert, lived in New
Speaker 1: York and didn't communicate with any of the members of
Speaker 1: the family in Florida. Robert Adelson was the oldest child
Speaker 1: of the family. After leaving home, Robert began college, eventually
Speaker 1: becoming a successful sinus surgeon. He had met and fallen
Speaker 1: in love with an Indian woman and made plans to marry.
Speaker 1: His parents didn't approve of her because she was Hindu,
Speaker 1: and they had wanted their children to meet and marry
Speaker 1: someone of the Jewish faith, which is ironic considering they
Speaker 1: didn't serve Kosher meals.
Speaker 2: A right's wedding.
Speaker 1: Buried the pressure of this you know between his family
Speaker 1: that led Robert to break up with his girlfriend. He
Speaker 1: quickly met and married a Jewish woman after that, but
Speaker 1: realized he had made a mistake, so within the marriage
Speaker 1: it was annulled and he went back to his former
Speaker 1: girlfriend and they got married. The ceremony was a mix
Speaker 1: of both Hindu in Jewish traditions. Robert's parents saved face
Speaker 1: during the ceremony, but seemed to have cut him off
Speaker 1: after the marriage. So back to Dan and Wendy. Dan
Speaker 1: had established a life in Tallahassee. Wendy was making efforts
Speaker 1: to develop a home in Miami. The main issue of
Speaker 1: contention in their divorce was where the boys were going
Speaker 1: to live. On June twentieth, twenty thirteen, the judge denied
Speaker 1: Wendy's motion for relocation with her children. The following month,
Speaker 1: a divorce settlement was agreed upon. Dan would make a
Speaker 1: lump sum payment of one hundred and twenty thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and pay eight hundred and forty one dollars a month
Speaker 1: in support. On top of it, custody the children would
Speaker 1: be fifty to fifty and Dan would keep the family
Speaker 1: home in Benton Hills, Wow. Although the settlement was made,
Speaker 1: the legal battles continued. Constant disputes were filed regarding everything
Speaker 1: from school plans to skyping with the kids. This sounds
Speaker 1: like my.
Speaker 2: Worst client magic, Yes it does.
Speaker 1: During the separation, Dan had been told by his sons
Speaker 1: that Donna, Wendy's mother, was making disparaging remarks about him
Speaker 1: to his children, calling him stupid and saying that Dan
Speaker 1: was trying to keep her from her sunshines, which I
Speaker 1: guess is what she called the grandkids. After hearing one
Speaker 1: of the comments himself during one of the skyping calls
Speaker 1: between Dan and the boys, Dan asked the judge to
Speaker 1: no longer allow unsupervised visitation between Donna and her grandchildren.
Speaker 1: Fearing parental alienation. Dan informed the judge that Wendy's parents
Speaker 1: were aggressive in controlling the hearing for the motion to
Speaker 1: prohibit Wendy's mother from unsupervised visitation with her grandchildren was scheduled,
Speaker 1: but would never be heard because Dan Markle would have
Speaker 1: passed away before it reached the courtroom. In the early
Speaker 1: hours of the morning on Saturday, July nineteenth, twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: Dan succumbed to his injuries. Investigators immediately began looking into
Speaker 1: every possible ability of who could have wanted Dan dad
Speaker 1: and why. During Wendy's interview, she told the officers not
Speaker 1: just about her brother Charlie, but also about her former boyfriend,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Laus. Jeffrey was also a professor at FSU working
Speaker 1: in the College of Social Work. Wendy claimed that Jeffrey
Speaker 1: didn't like Dan because Dan Hurtney. So Jeffrey was brought
Speaker 1: in for questioning on July twenty first, twenty fourteen. Police
Speaker 1: were able to verify that Jeffrey wasn't a suspect, as
Speaker 1: he'd been hundreds of miles away at the time of
Speaker 1: the murder. During the course of three long interviews with police,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey gave the officers several theories he had about the murder,
Speaker 1: stemming from his nine month long relationship with Wendy. This
Speaker 1: is getting juicy right. During his first police interview on
Speaker 1: July twenty first, Jeffrey informed them that Wendy had disclosed
Speaker 1: to him that the Addisons were desperate to get Wendy
Speaker 1: back to Miami. He felt like Wendy's family infant tialized
Speaker 1: her and she wasn't treated like an adult. He claimed
Speaker 1: that he'd heard during a discussion the previous summer between
Speaker 1: Wendy and her mom, Donna, that they've been thinking about
Speaker 1: converting the children to Catholicism. Kind Dan's back, just to
Speaker 1: hurt him. After the petition to relocate the boys was denied,
Speaker 1: Wendy told Jeff, Charlie hates Danny. That's her brother, Charlie, okay,
Speaker 1: and it seriously looked into all the options possible to
Speaker 1: take care of this.
Speaker 2: Problem in my little right.
Speaker 1: In one chilling statement, Wendy made clear Charlie had looked
Speaker 1: into how much it would cost to have someone killed.
Speaker 2: Another you know. So they just cracked me up, Like,
Speaker 2: are you gonna look on the public library? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because you're gonna leave a trail, uh
Speaker 2: whether unless you get a burner phone you're gonna afford
Speaker 2: people will look you know, You're they're gonna look at
Speaker 2: your history. This is you know, how do you make poison?
Speaker 2: How do you do this? It's all right there of
Speaker 2: your history.
Speaker 1: Right Like okay, yeah, your history is going to be
Speaker 1: looked at. If you fucking talk to one person that
Speaker 1: one person's going to tell another person's day.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, people are just so stupid. I looked at
Speaker 2: the hiring a hit man. What's the first step in that?
Speaker 1: Google, That's what the first step is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Facebook, marketplace, Yeah, Craig Let's Yeah.
Speaker 1: What do you do you ask around?
Speaker 2: What do you do you yourself?
Speaker 1: Hit men in my area?
Speaker 2: Exactly crazy? Oh, people are stupid, and he's a periodontist.
Speaker 2: I expect more from a white collar. That's sloppy. That's
Speaker 2: just sloppy.
Speaker 1: Jeff also referenced a conversation he'd had with Charlie when
Speaker 1: they'd been first introduced around mid March of that year.
Speaker 1: Charlie shared that there were some financial irregularity, and Jeff
Speaker 1: told the police they should be looking into the Addison's
Speaker 1: dental practice. There might be tax fraud happening, and they
Speaker 1: should look at the movement of assets between members of
Speaker 1: the family. This is a fact that was grasped onto
Speaker 1: as a part of the motive. So if Wendy was
Speaker 1: to be found out having participated in illegal acts in
Speaker 1: order to evade taxes, she could lose her job and
Speaker 1: possibly hard Additionally, in that same conversation between Jeff and Charlie,
Speaker 1: Charlie had been discussing in front of Wendy and Jeff
Speaker 1: sex acts he'd performed on his girlfriend to quote punish
Speaker 1: her for her behavior. End quote.
Speaker 2: Jeff said, whoa, whoa, whoa whoap did you read say
Speaker 2: that Charlie is telling me stories? Yes, okay, he's telling
Speaker 2: his sister, okay about punishing her. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So Jeff said, Charlie reeks of anti so social behavior,
Speaker 1: and that quote his social radar is way off.
Speaker 2: To say the least. Yeah, read the room. Yeah, read
Speaker 2: the room, Charlie.
Speaker 1: And you know Jeff's opinion. You got to remember he
Speaker 1: was a professor in social work with a focus in
Speaker 1: mental health and psychiatric medications. Oh, probably kind of knew
Speaker 1: what he was talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a little very good. Yeah, very He wasn't
Speaker 2: just armchairing it like I would, right.
Speaker 1: That I read or.
Speaker 2: Whatever the articles from years gone by.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be like, he's very antisocial.
Speaker 2: He was like, no clue, what right, that's typical antisocial
Speaker 2: behavior right there. Yeah, because my years of doctor still
Speaker 2: and for Google.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Jeff told the police quote Charlie popped into
Speaker 1: my head within thirty seconds of hearing about Dan being shot.
Speaker 1: He didn't think Charlie would have done it himself, but
Speaker 1: he had friends on both sides of the track, and
Speaker 1: there's a possibility that he would hire someone from the
Speaker 1: quote Cuban neighborhood end quote.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: He said too that the Adelsons hated Dan in a way.
Speaker 1: He said he'd never seen this kind of obsession and
Speaker 1: like basically their hobby was hating Dan.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's also heard on the police video during his
Speaker 1: interview saying, quote, I would just say I would be
Speaker 1: investigating Charlie Adelson. I don't know if he did this,
Speaker 1: but if you're looking at someone, don't miss him.
Speaker 2: Nice right.
Speaker 1: Just two days later, on July twenty third, grainy surveillance
Speaker 1: footage of the silvery green priess that had been seen
Speaker 1: in Dan's driveway was released and called a vehicle of interest.
Speaker 1: There was clear evidence of Dan being stalked by two
Speaker 1: men in the priests before the murder. A resident of
Speaker 1: an apartment complex called police to inform them that they'd
Speaker 1: seen a priest in the parking lot and two men
Speaker 1: got out of it and started walking down by a
Speaker 1: nature trail by Dan's house. On August twelfth, twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: Jeff went in to the police department. He had been
Speaker 1: going through old text messages and had put together that
Speaker 1: he and Wendy had made plans to go to California
Speaker 1: on July eleventh through seventeenth, and Dan was shot on
Speaker 1: the eighteenth. He said that they had made the reservation
Speaker 1: four months prior, and Wendy later canceled them a month
Speaker 1: before they were supposed to leave. He also said that
Speaker 1: he'd heard from Wendy and some mutual friends that Wendy's
Speaker 1: brother Charlie, had texted her in the beginning of August,
Speaker 1: asking if she'd like to go celebrate. Jeff was later
Speaker 1: told that during the dinner that Wendy was at that
Speaker 1: she'd pamited at the dinner table. Jeff said he believed
Speaker 1: that Wendy may have been indirectly responsible for Dan's murder,
Speaker 1: and the police informed him that Wendy wasn't a sign aspect,
Speaker 1: to which he replied, quote, well she should be, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand with them going through a divorce,
Speaker 2: and as soon as you hear spouse or recent acts,
Speaker 2: a number one suspect, you know can't be weird.
Speaker 1: He's like a college professor, like, who's going to fucking
Speaker 1: just shoot him, right, Yeah, this not Robin. I mean
Speaker 1: he didn't get robbed, they didn't steal his car, they
Speaker 1: didn't take no, none of that happens. And he was
Speaker 1: shot in his driveway. So like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like it's a random.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. In the Prius number one when
Speaker 2: you first said the model was like, oh, Priuses have
Speaker 2: been around that long twenty fourteen PRIs, Oh my goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In mid September twenty fourteen, as the investigation continued, Florida
Speaker 1: State University had a memorial service. Hundreds packed the hall
Speaker 1: while people stood up one by one to honor their colleague, friend, teacher,
Speaker 1: and family member. In January twenty fifteen, investigators caught up
Speaker 1: to a key witness, a self confessed drug dealer, who
Speaker 1: told police he sold cocaine to one of their suspects.
Speaker 1: This was a man named Sigfrido Garcia. This suspect also
Speaker 1: claimed to have runted a hotel room in his own
Speaker 1: name and another suspect, Louis Riviera. The witness gave the
Speaker 1: police an hour long interview in which he claimed that
Speaker 1: Sigfriedo had flagged him down just after midnight. On July sixteenth,
Speaker 1: outside of a cheap motel to ask where he could
Speaker 1: get some drugs. Cecredo bought some cocaine from the man
Speaker 1: and the two hung out for several hours before he left.
Speaker 1: The witness told the police that while he and Sigfrido
Speaker 1: snorted the coke, Lewis sat on a bed with a handgun.
Speaker 1: He saw Sigfrido and Louis the next day standing next
Speaker 1: to the rented Prius, which had broken down. The witness
Speaker 1: gave the a ride to buy parts to fix the car,
Speaker 1: and then rented them a hotel room in his name.
Speaker 1: They paid them back in cash.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In July twenty fifteen, police, so this is like a
Speaker 1: year later. Police came across a video from a city
Speaker 1: bus showing that same Prius. From the angle the video
Speaker 1: was taken out, they were able to see a toll
Speaker 1: transponder in the window. This made investigators believe that the
Speaker 1: killers weren't from Tallahassee due to the few toll roads
Speaker 1: in the area. Police then went and pulled the toll
Speaker 1: records for all priuses hiding into Tallahassee around the time
Speaker 1: of the murder. The records led them to a car
Speaker 1: runtal agency in Miami. It turned out that there were
Speaker 1: fewer than ten Priuses rented during the span of time
Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. It could have been the
Speaker 1: same car. Looking at the runnal agreement, the vehicle had
Speaker 1: been rented to Louis Riviera, who was a leader in
Speaker 1: the Latin Kings Gang.
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah.
Speaker 1: The second phone number on the rental contract was traced
Speaker 1: to Sigfriedo Garcia, who was Lewis's childhood friend and he
Speaker 1: had a colorful felony record. Please were able to ping
Speaker 1: both cell phones within the vicinity of Dan's home at
Speaker 1: the time of the murder. When Dan was shot, Charlie
Speaker 1: Adelson was dating a woman named Katherine Magnanua. She had
Speaker 1: been working off and on at the dental practice and
Speaker 1: was also the mother of children of Sigfriedo Garcia. She's
Speaker 1: Sigfredo's baby mama.
Speaker 2: That's right. She can help you out right.
Speaker 1: When police looked into the phone records of Catherine and Charlie,
Speaker 1: they noticed a pattern of contact that took place in
Speaker 1: the weeks leading up to the murder. When a phone
Speaker 1: call would take place between Catherine and Charlie, there would
Speaker 1: be another phone call right after between Catherine and Secriedo,
Speaker 1: and another between Charlie and Donna his mom.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Immediately after the murder, Donna Adelson talked to Charlie on
Speaker 1: the phone for seven minutes, and then Charlie made two
Speaker 1: calls to Catherine, with one of those calls lasting five minutes.
Speaker 1: An hour later, Secreto called Catherine. This was the first
Speaker 1: phone call he made after the shooting. After the murder,
Speaker 1: Lewis and Secreto purchased several cars and motorcycles. Around that
Speaker 1: same time, Catherine began receiving paychecks from the Adelson's dental office.
Speaker 1: The found that Catherine had deposited more than forty one
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in cash and more than seventeen thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in checks from the Addelson Institute into her bank account
Speaker 1: between July twenty fourteen and November twenty fifteen. The checks
Speaker 1: were signed by Donna Adelson. Dude, this is such a
Speaker 1: fucking paper trail.
Speaker 2: Like it is. It's so good. I mean, once you
Speaker 2: hit the vein, man, you really hit it. I am not.
Speaker 2: I love how they've been like tracking the phone calls. Okay,
Speaker 2: once Catherine speaks to what chuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Charlie yeah.
Speaker 2: Charlie yeah. And then Charlie mother and she calls Sigtredo.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like that they could pick up those patterns. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the trail, right, yeah, the trail for sure.
Speaker 1: The Addison family claimed Catherine was employed by the clinic. However,
Speaker 1: the police Affidavid states that Catherine was only found to
Speaker 1: be working at the dental practice one time during the
Speaker 1: length of the investigation. The police believe Charlie was financially
Speaker 1: supporting Catherine in payment for Dan's murder after she and
Speaker 1: Charlie had broken up. He had even paid for her
Speaker 1: post breakup glow up in the form of a boob job.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So then she leaves Scredo, what does
Speaker 2: she leave Sigfredo and glows up or makes herself new?
Speaker 1: Yeah, makes herself new?
Speaker 2: Right. I can't let you know what. I can't say.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do the same. I mean, I do have
Speaker 2: some Pinterest pictures in my own special file of work
Speaker 2: I'd like done. But so, yeah, she does the glow
Speaker 2: and I'm imagining, you know, if he's a dentist, you're
Speaker 2: going to get the pills involved. So the's payments of
Speaker 2: pills prime making that up. Yeah, that's not in the story.
Speaker 2: That's just my life observation. Adding to the story.
Speaker 1: In early twenty sixteen, the FBI arranged to have an
Speaker 1: undercover officer bump into Donna Adelson posing as Lewis's brother.
Speaker 1: The officer handed Donna a news article referencing Dan's murder
Speaker 1: with five thousand dollars and a phone number written on it.
Speaker 1: In the conversation, the officer told Donna that he knows
Speaker 1: that the Adelsons are taking care of Catherine and Sigfriedo.
Speaker 1: He said that Lewis is in prison now and that
Speaker 1: he'd also helped with their quote problem up North End
Speaker 1: quote and they needed to take care of him too.
Speaker 1: The purpose of this operation was to get the suspects
Speaker 1: talking to each other, and it worked. In April twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: Charlie met his ex girlfriend Catherine at Hilchi Vita restaurant
Speaker 1: in Miami. The FBI got a forty minute long recording
Speaker 1: at this restaurant about how to deal with someone they
Speaker 1: believed to be either a blackmailer or police. Charlie suggested
Speaker 1: making a one time charity payment to the blackmailer or
Speaker 1: else killing him end quote. And so help me God,
Speaker 1: if they fuck with my family, it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: fucking the Nazi shit, because this will be done. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, Katie, I don't care
Speaker 1: what I spend. Okay, I swear to God, Katie, Katie,
Speaker 1: the person doesn't know end quote.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In May twenty sixteen, police announced first degree murder charges
Speaker 1: for Dan's murder against Siegfrido and Lewis the rest Fi.
Speaker 1: David alleges that Charlie Adelson quote reportedly did not like
Speaker 1: Dan and did not get along with him end quote.
Speaker 1: A probable cause Affidavid alleges that the two men were
Speaker 1: enlisted to commit this egregious act, and police believe the
Speaker 1: motive for the killing stemmed from the desperate desire of
Speaker 1: the Addison family to relocate Wendy and the children to
Speaker 1: South Florida, along with the pending court hearing that might
Speaker 1: have impacted their access to the grandchildren because remember Dan
Speaker 1: had filed that motion to supervised grandparent time.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In June, both men were indicted. Court documents made public
Speaker 1: that month link Secrito to Charlie Adelson, Charlie's former girlfriend,
Speaker 1: Catherine was also the mother I told you of Sircrito's children,
Speaker 1: and Sigrido pleaded not guilty, and the state informed him
Speaker 1: they planned to seek the death penalty. His trial was
Speaker 1: set for November fourteenth, twenty sixteen. Louis Rivera was extradited
Speaker 1: to a federal prison to remain incarcerated on unrelated charges.
Speaker 1: Because he was incarcerated that the undercover officer had told
Speaker 1: Donna remember right ye on September eighth, Lewis chose to
Speaker 1: demand a speedy trial, which was set for October twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, so before Cifrito's setded up, leading guilty to
Speaker 1: second degree murder on October fourth, twenty sixteen, and ultimately
Speaker 1: was sentenced to nineteen years in prison. The sentence would
Speaker 1: run concurrently with a federal sentence in an unrelated case
Speaker 1: for his statements and cooperation with prosecutors so he is
Speaker 1: going to snitch. Evidence from the recording the FBI had
Speaker 1: gotten of Catherine's meeting with Charlie at the dolci Vita
Speaker 1: restaurant was used to arrest Catherine on charge of the
Speaker 1: first degree murder on October first, twenty sixteen. She was
Speaker 1: offered immunity in exchange for cooperation, but she refused.
Speaker 2: I know that is ballsy, right, that is balzy.
Speaker 1: Catherine in Cifriedo would be tried together in October twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: In trial, Sigfriedo was found guilty of first degree murder,
Speaker 1: in which sentenced to life in prison. Catherine's first trial
Speaker 1: was ruled a mistrial. She was scheduled to be tried
Speaker 1: again in April twenty twenty, which was eventually delayed due
Speaker 1: to the pande and then come up again until the
Speaker 1: spring of twenty twenty two. During the long break between trials,
Speaker 1: the prosecution found an audio forensic expert to enhance the
Speaker 1: recording of the Dulce Vita meeting between Catherine and Charlie.
Speaker 1: Because of the audio enhancement, Charlie Addison was arrested on
Speaker 1: April twenty first, twenty twenty two, and charged with first
Speaker 1: degree murder, conspiracy, and solicitation of murder in connection with
Speaker 1: the shooting of Dan Markle.
Speaker 2: Finally get to the I know, I mean you have
Speaker 2: the two trigger guys or you know, the trigger guy,
Speaker 2: and then the domino effect to the fiery you know,
Speaker 2: the hired money, great money behind the operation yes.
Speaker 1: Catherine's retrial began March sixteenth, twenty twenty two. On May
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, the jury returned after eight hours of deliberation
Speaker 1: and with a guilty verdict of first degree murder, conspiracy,
Speaker 1: and solicitation of murder. She was sentenced to life in prison.
Speaker 1: Charlie Andelson's trial was to begin in the spring of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, but was delayed. On September twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Catherine turned state's witness oh he expected
Speaker 1: to testify against her ex boyfriend. Charlie's trial began on
Speaker 1: October twenty third, twenty twenty three. Jeffrey La case Lacas
Speaker 1: took this early in the trial and detailed everything that
Speaker 1: he told the police throughout their investigation. Louis Rivera took
Speaker 1: the stand the following day. He detailed for the jurors
Speaker 1: how he was enlisted to go to Tallahassee to murder Dan.
Speaker 1: He described tailgating Dan with Sigfrido Garcia. They followed him
Speaker 1: when he dropped off his kids at their preschool and
Speaker 1: watched as he drove to the gym then back to
Speaker 1: his house. Lewis told the court room how when they
Speaker 1: pulled into the driveway, Sigfrido had jumped out, gone behind
Speaker 1: Dan's car to the driver's side window and shot him twice.
Speaker 1: Wow Lewis admitted that he and Secrito had driven from
Speaker 1: Miami to Tallahassee on two separate occasions in the summer
Speaker 1: of twenty fourteen. He stated how he didn't know that
Speaker 1: he was going to participate in murder until he was
Speaker 1: in the car on the way to Tallahassee. He took
Speaker 1: him Initially, he thought he was going up north to
Speaker 1: up North Florida to commit a rock. Sigfriedo told him
Speaker 1: during the car ride that he'd been hired to kill Dan.
Speaker 1: He included the fact that Catherine was involved. Lewis stated, quote,
Speaker 1: he said, we were going to kill the man for
Speaker 1: some kids, for a lady, because the lady wanted her
Speaker 1: kids back.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 1: He told jurors he knew Wendy Adelson was paying for
Speaker 1: the hit job.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. No, right, that's a big finger pointer
Speaker 2: right there, I know.
Speaker 1: In opening statements, the prosecution stated that Lewis and Sopriedo
Speaker 1: were hired by the Andilson family and a murder for
Speaker 1: hire plot posed and paid for by Charlie, Wendy and
Speaker 1: Donna Adelson. Lewis stated that Catherine was the first person
Speaker 1: Secreto called on the ride back to Miami after the shooting.
Speaker 1: When they returned, Sigcredo, Lewis and Catherine split one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars between them for the hit. Lewis said he
Speaker 1: got thirty five, Cicrido got forty, and Catherine took the rest.
Speaker 2: Which wow, like twenty five yeah, thirty wait, thirty five yeah,
Speaker 2: thirty five, seventy five yeah yeah wow.
Speaker 1: On November sixth, twenty twenty three, Charlie Addilson was found
Speaker 1: guilty a first degree murder, conspiracy to commit murder, and
Speaker 1: solicitation of murder. On December twelfth, he was sentence to
Speaker 1: life in prison plus sixty years.
Speaker 2: Wow. He really he won't be a free man.
Speaker 1: Oh he's not going new way noe.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: A week after Charlie was sound guilty, his parents, Donna
Speaker 1: and Harvey Addelson, were stopped in Miami in a national
Speaker 1: airport trying to board a flight with one way tickets
Speaker 1: to Vietnam. Non is a country with no extradition treaty
Speaker 1: with the US.
Speaker 2: Wow. That speaks volumes come on, don't hopeful, Jesus, I
Speaker 2: know now you're gonna don't even deny you know, you
Speaker 2: know right.
Speaker 1: Donna Addison was arrested two days later. She was indicted
Speaker 1: for Dan Marko's murder. In the beginning of December. She
Speaker 1: was placed in solitary confinement. I'm not sure why. When
Speaker 1: her attorneys brought up that she was facing cruel and
Speaker 1: unusual punishment. Her jaw dropped when a jail official explained
Speaker 1: that she had allegedly made comments that she wanted to die,
Speaker 1: and she'd made suicidal statements on jail house calls, which
Speaker 1: had been recorded and monitored. Pleeted not guilty in December.
Speaker 1: The trial was scheduled for the spring of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: but has been delayed and seventeenth, twenty twenty four, her
Speaker 1: trial was ended before it even began when, on the
Speaker 1: first day of jury selection, her defense attorney withdrew due
Speaker 1: to conflict of interest concerns. He had also been Charlie's
Speaker 1: defense attorney, and the plan was for Donna was that
Speaker 1: Charlie was going to take the stand, which would force
Speaker 1: his own defense attorney to cross examine him, so he
Speaker 1: couldn't be Donna's attorney because he would have xamine Charlie,
Speaker 1: which is a huge conflict of interest. Right, Wendy who,
Speaker 1: So the trial.
Speaker 2: Hasn't began yet, Right, Donna's.
Speaker 1: Still in prison. Wendy, who has denied involvement with the
Speaker 1: murder and testified under immunity at several trials, has not
Speaker 1: been charged. Neither has her father, Harvey Adelson. Wendy Edison
Speaker 1: had her son's last name changed to Addison, and she
Speaker 1: totally cut off the Marco family visitation with the kids.
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, after Lewis Garcia's arrest, Affi David named
Speaker 1: her family members as cocon spiras in the Yeah. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Ruth and Phil Markle began pushing for legislation
Speaker 1: to give grandparents in Florida more rights to visit their
Speaker 1: grandchildren after the death of a parent. Markel Act was
Speaker 1: passed in twenty twenty two and signed into law by
Speaker 1: Governor DeSantis.
Speaker 2: Wow, and that's the end.
Speaker 1: Of what I have. Michigan has grandparent rights.
Speaker 2: Doing good.
Speaker 1: You have to meet like certain criteria, but one of
Speaker 1: them is if like your child is deceased. One of
Speaker 1: the reasons why you can petition for grandparents visiting.
Speaker 2: Well, for sure, grandparents are very important. Healthy grandparents are
Speaker 2: very important, and you know the childhood development, absolutely, you're specialthy.
Speaker 2: Healthy grandparents are very much And you know, I was
Speaker 2: thinking about, you know, their Jewish faith in their life,
Speaker 2: and now I know. On Facebook, I follow this woman.
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Speaker 2: and I'm going to show you a little bit what
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Speaker 2: A shiksa oh yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I will check that out Netflix, youseud Netflix.
Speaker 1: And they're only half hour episodes. I mean you will
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