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<v Speaker 1>This episode maintained content of a graphic nature, including descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised. Hi, this is Tanya.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi this is Shannon, and we are Crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And Consequences, a hardcore true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I am good. How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing pretty good? How about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Life is a sweet fruit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is in family. Oh bring the flavor, don't

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<v Speaker 2>they yell?

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<v Speaker 1>It's that time of year, right, You're subjected to your

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<v Speaker 1>family and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And surround and enjoy and love and other things too.

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<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, you know, but I do. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a funny story I want to tell you. Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>hear it, all right. So Brooke and I Brooke is

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<v Speaker 2>my twenty two year old daughter for those of you

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<v Speaker 2>who don't know, and she is eighteen and a half

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<v Speaker 2>weeks pregnant. So yes, I'm going to be a grandma. Randy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's going to create. And we know he's

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<v Speaker 2>a boy. We call him beans. So anyway, Brook and

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<v Speaker 2>I so Brooke, we were talking about how like herreditary,

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<v Speaker 2>our rage seems to be her hereditary. Just your common

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<v Speaker 2>conversation over breakfast, and she goes, it was just so

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<v Speaker 2>funny because you know, there's that formality of oh hey mom,

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<v Speaker 2>oh hey honey, blah blah blah. And once she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this one time when you got mad, and

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<v Speaker 2>just her inflection, I was like, Oh my gosh, she's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be this sounds like I might have left something

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<v Speaker 2>that needs therapy or that's this sounds like cor bevery.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, oh exactly. She goes, Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you were looking for your ATM card. She goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the bank. It was Huntington. She goes,

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<v Speaker 2>we pulled over. You had been digging her out out

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<v Speaker 2>of the side frantically, and you were getting mad and mad,

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<v Speaker 2>and she goes, and then we pulled over and you

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<v Speaker 2>got out. You started looking all over the car. It

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<v Speaker 2>was went under the seat and you grabbed it and

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<v Speaker 2>you put it right in your face and you yelled

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<v Speaker 2>cut except that I really laid on the oud like

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, Brooklyn, you know that's me mad at

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<v Speaker 2>the universe. Yeah, yelling at the universe, not the card.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just Sat eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>She can't put anything away. It's not normal, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>natural to do so, so just for her to share

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<v Speaker 2>it as a I remember this rage story. I can

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<v Speaker 2>you know? What? Is she ten? And I'm all like, motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 2>where is this card?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, my daughter has a core memory of me screaming

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<v Speaker 1>at her. She was probably five or six, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was either at Brownies or what is it when they're

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<v Speaker 1>like before Brownies?

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<v Speaker 2>I forget, Yes, I know what you mean, at the

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<v Speaker 2>Little Blue.

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<v Speaker 1>Best right, and she was running around and running around.

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<v Speaker 1>I had told her to stop it, and she's running,

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<v Speaker 1>running running. When we got in the car, I fucking unleashed.

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<v Speaker 1>I like screamed at her and everything. So she says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a core memory of mine, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. It was before I was medicated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to point out the importance of mental health, yea,

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<v Speaker 2>all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, before I rested my health. And I do apologize

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and I'm sorry that I've scarred you for

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<v Speaker 1>life with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love it that He's like, yeah, mom, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a core memory.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you know, I'm like, oh great, Oh we

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<v Speaker 1>do our best. I know. So, yeah, it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was fabulous, you know. So we've started our children. But anyway, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well I'll get into the episode now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, Yes, before I started, just remind everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>hit subscriber or follow. And our story takes place on

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<v Speaker 1>July eighteenth, twenty fourteen, and it's around eleven am. A

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<v Speaker 1>man named Dan Markle was driving home. He had dropped

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<v Speaker 1>his kids off at preschool and then he went to

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<v Speaker 1>the gym for a workout before driving to his house,

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<v Speaker 1>which was in Benton Hills, which is a suburb of Tallahassee, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Dan had i'd been in.

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<v Speaker 1>The midst of a bitter divorce and custody battle with

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, whose name was Wendy Adelson. Both Dan and

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy were law professors at Florida State University. Dan's family

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Canada, and so he had an agreement with

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<v Speaker 1>his mom that when he was driving he would call

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<v Speaker 1>her to decompress. So on this date, he also had

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<v Speaker 1>an arranged phone call with a teacher at a potential

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<v Speaker 1>school for one of his sons. His soon to be

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<v Speaker 1>ex wife wanted to change the school their children would

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<v Speaker 1>be going to the following year because like she had

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<v Speaker 1>enrolled them without discussing it.

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<v Speaker 2>With Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, and so the phone call with the teacher was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to discuss what had happened and why the school

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<v Speaker 1>would be a good fit. So after hanging up with

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<v Speaker 1>his mom, he called the teacher. As he continued his drive.

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<v Speaker 1>With so much going on, Dan didn't notice that there

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<v Speaker 1>was a silver green Prius that was following him. But

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<v Speaker 1>when Dan pulled into his driveway in front of his house,

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<v Speaker 1>he told the teacher that he was talking to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, he said, there's someone in my driveway that

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<v Speaker 1>is unfamiliar to me. Then Peter heard a loud grunt,

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<v Speaker 1>muffled voices, and labored breathing. He asked if Dan was okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but Dan never returned to the call. Okay, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm guessing the teacher hung up. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something's happening, and one of Dan's neighbors heard

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<v Speaker 1>a gunshot. He looks in the direction of Dan's house

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<v Speaker 1>and he sees the garage door was up and thought

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<v Speaker 1>Dan was backing out, but instead he sees this silvery

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<v Speaker 1>green Prius leaving the driveway. So after a while he's

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that Dan's car hasn't moved, and so he went

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<v Speaker 1>to go check on Dan. Looking in the driver's side window,

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<v Speaker 1>he saw his neighbor. Dan had been shot in the

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<v Speaker 1>head through the glass. Window was shattered and there was blood,

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<v Speaker 1>but Dan was still alive and moving.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>He called the police and unfortunately, though the dispatcher made

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<v Speaker 1>an error in the prioritization of the call and categorized

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<v Speaker 1>it as a traffic accident. So the first mobitter arrived

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<v Speaker 1>at the house expecting to see like a fender bender,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know no, and ambulance arrived nineteen minutes after

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<v Speaker 1>the initial phone call. Dan was transported to Tallahassee Memorial Healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>After the shooting, the police set up crime scene tape

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<v Speaker 1>to keep drivers and pedestrians from going down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>When this had been done, one of the officers noticed

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<v Speaker 1>a maroon Honda Odyssey that had tried to make a

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<v Speaker 1>turn onto the street soon after the shooting, and this

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<v Speaker 1>fan ended up belonging to Wendy Adelson, Dan's ex wife

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<v Speaker 1>or soon to be ex wife, who lived a short

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<v Speaker 1>distance away from Dan. Wendy Adelson was found the afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>of the shooting at a local restaurant where she was

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<v Speaker 1>having lunch with friends. The police drove her to the

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<v Speaker 1>station about two point thirty. They didn't hear any details

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<v Speaker 1>about why she was being brought in during the drive there.

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<v Speaker 1>When she sat down with an officer after they arrived

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<v Speaker 1>at the station, she was told that Dan had been

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<v Speaker 1>shot and he wasn't likely to survive. As soon as

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<v Speaker 1>she heard this news, she burst into tears, and she

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<v Speaker 1>began to sob uncontrollably. They inquired about her plans for

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<v Speaker 1>the day, you know, They were like, where what are

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<v Speaker 1>you been?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, She said she'd been home earlier in the day

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for a TV repairman. One of her sons had

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<v Speaker 1>thrown a toy into their new flat screen TV, and

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<v Speaker 1>the TV was a divorce gift from Wendy's older brother, Charlie,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were trying to see if it was worth fixing.

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<v Speaker 1>After the repairman left, she got ready for lunch with

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<v Speaker 1>her friends, and then she ran to the liquor store

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a bottle of bourbon for a stock the

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<v Speaker 1>bar wedding party that evening. During the highly emotional interview,

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy was asked if there was anyone she knew who

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<v Speaker 1>would want to get killed Dan. She said no. However,

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<v Speaker 1>later in the interview, she spoke of a bad joke

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<v Speaker 1>that her brother Charlie had made about the television he'd

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<v Speaker 1>given her. He said, I looked into hiring a hit

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<v Speaker 1>man and it was cheaper to get you the teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Hah yeah yeah, real nee slapper right.

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<v Speaker 1>Even after disclosing this to police, Wendy doubled down that

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<v Speaker 1>her brother would never have actually hired anyone to kill

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<v Speaker 1>her husband. Going on to further explain, Wendy detailed that

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<v Speaker 1>she was involved in ongoing litigation regarding the split of

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<v Speaker 1>financial assets and connection with her divorce. Said that her

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<v Speaker 1>parents were extremely angry with Dan, but they would never

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<v Speaker 1>say a bad word about her children's father in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the kids. When the police asked about Charlie, they

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<v Speaker 1>inquired into what type of car he drove. Describing her

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<v Speaker 1>brother as a bit of a character, Wendy told him

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<v Speaker 1>that Charlie is a periodontist who owns several cars, including

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<v Speaker 1>an unmarked police car. I told them that he's a

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<v Speaker 1>workaholic who starts early in the morning and goes until

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<v Speaker 1>late at night, so if they wanted to find him,

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<v Speaker 1>they could look at one of the many offices he

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<v Speaker 1>worked in throughout South Florida. The interview with Wendy lasted

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<v Speaker 1>five hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy expressed concern that whoever had been after her husband

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be coming for the kids next which I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why to sleep but right, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>the police hadn't found any evidence of a break in

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<v Speaker 1>and determined that the shooting wasn't random and somebody wanted

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<v Speaker 1>Dan dead. Wendy had been asked about being seen trying

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<v Speaker 1>to turn onto the road that Dan lived on with

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<v Speaker 1>her kids, and she said she drove by regularly to

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<v Speaker 1>help her like herself, process like her feelings about the divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>However, it was mentioned later that it was strange she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't call or reach out to anyone with concern about

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<v Speaker 1>the crime scene tape surrounding live in. Right right after

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<v Speaker 1>they were done questioning her, she asked the police if

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<v Speaker 1>she should get a sitter for her children while she

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<v Speaker 1>was going out that night at the stock the bar party.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, And this seems kind of weird because it

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<v Speaker 1>was her week to have the kids. She was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to pick them up from preschool that afternoon, and she

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<v Speaker 1>had these plans for this party. So if she was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a sitter. You think she would have

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<v Speaker 1>had one by then, right right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And unless the party was family friendly, but a stock

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<v Speaker 1>the bar party really does.

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<v Speaker 2>Dream doesn't sound bring your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it doesn't say all age is fun, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids welcome? That means get a sitter, No kids please,

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<v Speaker 2>That's just desire.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me tell you a little bit about Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>He was born October ninth, nineteen seventy two, making him

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<v Speaker 1>a Libra libra, libra mail, libra mail. He achieved a

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<v Speaker 1>mastery in political theory from Cambridge, and he went on

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<v Speaker 1>to earn a law degree from Harvard in nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>I know la la.

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<v Speaker 1>He was active in the Jewish faith, and after he graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and five, Dan began teaching at Florida

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy's family began right away. While both the Markles and

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<v Speaker 1>After guests had already begun eating, Dan was put in

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<v Speaker 1>I know Additionally, Dan was told by the Adelsons to

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, so you don't provide culture food at

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<v Speaker 2>your Jewish wedding, and then you got a downplay so

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<v Speaker 2>someone else can feel good. Are you kidding me? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, yeah, Dan, yeah, I just I don't get it,

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<v Speaker 1>During their marriage, they welcomed two boys, Benjamin and Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 1>While he had wanted to begin observing Kosher meals, Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>When Dan was gone, and it was clear she was

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty eleven, This is Our Story, which was a

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<v Speaker 1>out and side note It received a three point three

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<v Speaker 1>out of five on Goodreads Okay. The novel told the

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<v Speaker 1>story of a human trafficking attorney, Lily. Lily's character was

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, they always say write what you know?

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<v Speaker 1>What you know? His character was made out to be

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<v Speaker 1>disrespectful to his wife and dismissive of her accomplishments. In

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<v Speaker 1>the novel, Lily's character ended up leaving suddenly. She left

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<v Speaker 1>with a child she secretly adopted from a client who

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to take care of the infant. Wendy admitted

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<v Speaker 1>Saying in the afterward of the novel. Quote, I selfishly

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<v Speaker 1>has much, but not all, in common with Attorney Lily

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. Apparently Dan never read his wife's novel, because

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<v Speaker 1>if he had, he maybe wouldn't have been so surprised

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<v Speaker 1>when on September tenth, twenty twelve, just over a year

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<v Speaker 1>after the novel was released, Wendy left. Dan returned home

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<v Speaker 1>she left with no clue as to where they'd gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Divorce papers were lying on the bed in the master bedroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, no right, So the.

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<v Speaker 1>Divorce between the law professors to be very messy. For weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy refused to tell him where she and their sons

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<v Speaker 1>had gone. Dan made efforts to reconcile with his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>even telling her that he would move to Miami immediately

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<v Speaker 1>to keep their family together. My poor Wendy, it was

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<v Speaker 1>too little, too late. Wendy had taken her children from Tallahassee,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hours south to her parents' home in Coral Springs,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I just wise. I do know where Coral

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<v Speaker 2>Spriggs is because on my Zillow list of homes I'll

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<v Speaker 2>buy when I hit the lottery, Coral Sprigs looked like

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<v Speaker 2>a lovely suburb of Miami, just well located. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple condos.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, well you said carl I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>know where that it is place. Thank you Zillow. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>She was relieved to have been able to return to

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<v Speaker 1>her parents and brother, Charlie, with whom she had a

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<v Speaker 1>close relationship with. Her older brother, Robert, lived in New

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<v Speaker 1>York and didn't communicate with any of the members of

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<v Speaker 1>the family in Florida. Robert Adelson was the oldest child

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<v Speaker 1>of the family. After leaving home, Robert began college, eventually

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a successful sinus surgeon. He had met and fallen

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<v Speaker 1>in love with an Indian woman and made plans to marry.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents didn't approve of her because she was Hindu,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had wanted their children to meet and marry

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<v Speaker 1>someone of the Jewish faith, which is ironic considering they

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<v Speaker 2>A right's wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Buried the pressure of this you know between his family

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<v Speaker 1>that led Robert to break up with his girlfriend. He

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<v Speaker 1>quickly met and married a Jewish woman after that, but

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<v Speaker 1>realized he had made a mistake, so within the marriage

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<v Speaker 1>it was annulled and he went back to his former

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend and they got married. The ceremony was a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of both Hindu in Jewish traditions. Robert's parents saved face

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<v Speaker 1>during the ceremony, but seemed to have cut him off

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<v Speaker 1>after the marriage. So back to Dan and Wendy. Dan

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<v Speaker 1>had established a life in Tallahassee. Wendy was making efforts

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<v Speaker 1>to develop a home in Miami. The main issue of

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<v Speaker 1>contention in their divorce was where the boys were going

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<v Speaker 1>to live. On June twentieth, twenty thirteen, the judge denied

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy's motion for relocation with her children. The following month,

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce settlement was agreed upon. Dan would make a

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<v Speaker 1>lump sum payment of one hundred and twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and pay eight hundred and forty one dollars a month

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<v Speaker 1>in support. On top of it, custody the children would

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<v Speaker 1>be fifty to fifty and Dan would keep the family

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<v Speaker 1>home in Benton Hills, Wow. Although the settlement was made,

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<v Speaker 1>the legal battles continued. Constant disputes were filed regarding everything

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<v Speaker 1>from school plans to skyping with the kids. This sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like my.

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<v Speaker 2>Worst client magic, Yes it does.

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<v Speaker 1>During the separation, Dan had been told by his sons

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<v Speaker 1>that Donna, Wendy's mother, was making disparaging remarks about him

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<v Speaker 1>to his children, calling him stupid and saying that Dan

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to keep her from her sunshines, which I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is what she called the grandkids. After hearing one

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<v Speaker 1>of the comments himself during one of the skyping calls

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<v Speaker 1>between Dan and the boys, Dan asked the judge to

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<v Speaker 1>no longer allow unsupervised visitation between Donna and her grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 1>Fearing parental alienation. Dan informed the judge that Wendy's parents

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<v Speaker 1>were aggressive in controlling the hearing for the motion to

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<v Speaker 1>prohibit Wendy's mother from unsupervised visitation with her grandchildren was scheduled,

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<v Speaker 1>but would never be heard because Dan Markle would have

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<v Speaker 1>passed away before it reached the courtroom. In the early

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<v Speaker 1>hours of the morning on Saturday, July nineteenth, twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan succumbed to his injuries. Investigators immediately began looking into

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<v Speaker 1>every possible ability of who could have wanted Dan dad

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<v Speaker 1>and why. During Wendy's interview, she told the officers not

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<v Speaker 1>just about her brother Charlie, but also about her former boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Laus. Jeffrey was also a professor at FSU working

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<v Speaker 1>in the College of Social Work. Wendy claimed that Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like Dan because Dan Hurtney. So Jeffrey was brought

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<v Speaker 1>in for questioning on July twenty first, twenty fourteen. Police

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<v Speaker 1>were able to verify that Jeffrey wasn't a suspect, as

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<v Speaker 1>he'd been hundreds of miles away at the time of

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<v Speaker 1>the murder. During the course of three long interviews with police,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey gave the officers several theories he had about the murder,

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<v Speaker 1>stemming from his nine month long relationship with Wendy. This

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<v Speaker 1>is getting juicy right. During his first police interview on

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty first, Jeffrey informed them that Wendy had disclosed

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<v Speaker 1>to him that the Addisons were desperate to get Wendy

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<v Speaker 1>back to Miami. He felt like Wendy's family infant tialized

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<v Speaker 1>her and she wasn't treated like an adult. He claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that he'd heard during a discussion the previous summer between

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<v Speaker 1>converting the children to Catholicism. Kind Dan's back, just to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt him. After the petition to relocate the boys was denied,

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<v Speaker 1>Wendy told Jeff, Charlie hates Danny. That's her brother, Charlie, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seriously looked into all the options possible to

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<v Speaker 2>Problem in my little right.

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<v Speaker 1>In one chilling statement, Wendy made clear Charlie had looked

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<v Speaker 2>Another you know. So they just cracked me up, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you gonna look on the public library? You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, because you're gonna leave a trail, uh

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<v Speaker 2>whether unless you get a burner phone you're gonna afford

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<v Speaker 2>people will look you know, You're they're gonna look at

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<v Speaker 2>your history. This is you know, how do you make poison?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you do this? It's all right there of

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<v Speaker 2>your history.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Like okay, yeah, your history is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>looked at. If you fucking talk to one person that

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<v Speaker 1>one person's going to tell another person's day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, dude, people are just so stupid. I looked at

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<v Speaker 2>the hiring a hit man. What's the first step in that?

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<v Speaker 1>Google, That's what the first step is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Facebook, marketplace, Yeah, Craig Let's Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do you ask around?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do you yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Hit men in my area?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly crazy? Oh, people are stupid, and he's a periodontist.

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<v Speaker 2>I expect more from a white collar. That's sloppy. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just sloppy.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff also referenced a conversation he'd had with Charlie when

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<v Speaker 1>they'd been first introduced around mid March of that year.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie shared that there were some financial irregularity, and Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>told the police they should be looking into the Addison's

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<v Speaker 1>dental practice. There might be tax fraud happening, and they

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<v Speaker 1>the family. This is a fact that was grasped onto

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<v Speaker 1>as a part of the motive. So if Wendy was

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<v Speaker 1>possibly hard Additionally, in that same conversation between Jeff and Charlie,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie had been discussing in front of Wendy and Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>sex acts he'd performed on his girlfriend to quote punish

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff said, whoa, whoa, whoa whoap did you read say

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<v Speaker 2>that Charlie is telling me stories? Yes, okay, he's telling

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<v Speaker 2>his sister, okay about punishing her. Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jeff said, Charlie reeks of anti so social behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>and that quote his social radar is way off.

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<v Speaker 2>To say the least. Yeah, read the room. Yeah, read

429
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<v Speaker 2>the room, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know Jeff's opinion. You got to remember he

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<v Speaker 1>was a professor in social work with a focus in

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<v Speaker 1>mental health and psychiatric medications. Oh, probably kind of knew

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<v Speaker 1>what he was talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, a little very good. Yeah, very He wasn't

435
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>just armchairing it like I would, right.

436
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<v Speaker 1>That I read or.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever the articles from years gone by.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd be like, he's very antisocial.

439
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<v Speaker 2>He was like, no clue, what right, that's typical antisocial

440
00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 2>behavior right there. Yeah, because my years of doctor still

441
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>and for Google.

442
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Jeff told the police quote Charlie popped into

443
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.599
<v Speaker 1>my head within thirty seconds of hearing about Dan being shot.

444
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<v Speaker 1>He didn't think Charlie would have done it himself, but

445
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:05.759
<v Speaker 1>he had friends on both sides of the track, and

446
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a possibility that he would hire someone from the

447
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:11.519
<v Speaker 1>quote Cuban neighborhood end quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

449
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>He said too that the Adelsons hated Dan in a way.

450
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<v Speaker 1>He said he'd never seen this kind of obsession and

451
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<v Speaker 1>like basically their hobby was hating Dan.

452
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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's also heard on the police video during his

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<v Speaker 1>interview saying, quote, I would just say I would be

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<v Speaker 1>investigating Charlie Adelson. I don't know if he did this,

456
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but if you're looking at someone, don't miss him.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice right.

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<v Speaker 1>Just two days later, on July twenty third, grainy surveillance

459
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<v Speaker 1>footage of the silvery green priess that had been seen

460
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 1>in Dan's driveway was released and called a vehicle of interest.

461
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>There was clear evidence of Dan being stalked by two

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<v Speaker 1>men in the priests before the murder. A resident of

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<v Speaker 1>an apartment complex called police to inform them that they'd

464
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<v Speaker 1>seen a priest in the parking lot and two men

465
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>got out of it and started walking down by a

466
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>nature trail by Dan's house. On August twelfth, twenty fourteen,

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00:27:13.079 --> 00:27:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Jeff went in to the police department. He had been

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00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 1>going through old text messages and had put together that

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00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.119
<v Speaker 1>he and Wendy had made plans to go to California

470
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.079
<v Speaker 1>on July eleventh through seventeenth, and Dan was shot on

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteenth. He said that they had made the reservation

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00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:33.279
<v Speaker 1>four months prior, and Wendy later canceled them a month

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00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:36.279
<v Speaker 1>before they were supposed to leave. He also said that

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00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>he'd heard from Wendy and some mutual friends that Wendy's

475
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 1>brother Charlie, had texted her in the beginning of August,

476
00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>asking if she'd like to go celebrate. Jeff was later

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00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>told that during the dinner that Wendy was at that

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00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.319
<v Speaker 1>she'd pamited at the dinner table. Jeff said he believed

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<v Speaker 1>that Wendy may have been indirectly responsible for Dan's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>and the police informed him that Wendy wasn't a sign aspect,

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00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>to which he replied, quote, well she should be, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't understand with them going through a divorce,

483
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 2>and as soon as you hear spouse or recent acts,

484
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>a number one suspect, you know can't be weird.

485
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<v Speaker 1>He's like a college professor, like, who's going to fucking

486
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>just shoot him, right, Yeah, this not Robin. I mean

487
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>he didn't get robbed, they didn't steal his car, they

488
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't take no, none of that happens. And he was

489
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>shot in his driveway. So like, I don't know, it

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00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't seem like it's a random.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. In the Prius number one when

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00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>you first said the model was like, oh, Priuses have

493
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>been around that long twenty fourteen PRIs, Oh my goodness. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In mid September twenty fourteen, as the investigation continued, Florida

495
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 1>State University had a memorial service. Hundreds packed the hall

496
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<v Speaker 1>while people stood up one by one to honor their colleague, friend, teacher,

497
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and family member. In January twenty fifteen, investigators caught up

498
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to a key witness, a self confessed drug dealer, who

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00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:15.839
<v Speaker 1>told police he sold cocaine to one of their suspects.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a man named Sigfrido Garcia. This suspect also

501
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 1>claimed to have runted a hotel room in his own

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00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:27.319
<v Speaker 1>name and another suspect, Louis Riviera. The witness gave the

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<v Speaker 1>police an hour long interview in which he claimed that

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00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 1>Sigfriedo had flagged him down just after midnight. On July sixteenth,

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00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>outside of a cheap motel to ask where he could

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00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 1>get some drugs. Cecredo bought some cocaine from the man

507
00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and the two hung out for several hours before he left.

508
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 1>The witness told the police that while he and Sigfrido

509
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>snorted the coke, Lewis sat on a bed with a handgun.

510
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 1>He saw Sigfrido and Louis the next day standing next

511
00:29:55.799 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to the rented Prius, which had broken down. The witness

512
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 1>gave the a ride to buy parts to fix the car,

513
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and then rented them a hotel room in his name.

514
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>They paid them back in cash.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In July twenty fifteen, police, so this is like a

517
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>year later. Police came across a video from a city

518
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>bus showing that same Prius. From the angle the video

519
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>was taken out, they were able to see a toll

520
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>transponder in the window. This made investigators believe that the

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00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 1>killers weren't from Tallahassee due to the few toll roads

522
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 1>in the area. Police then went and pulled the toll

523
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 1>records for all priuses hiding into Tallahassee around the time

524
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>of the murder. The records led them to a car

525
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>runtal agency in Miami. It turned out that there were

526
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>fewer than ten Priuses rented during the span of time

527
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 1>in the state of Florida. It could have been the

528
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.599
<v Speaker 1>same car. Looking at the runnal agreement, the vehicle had

529
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.559
<v Speaker 1>been rented to Louis Riviera, who was a leader in

530
00:30:57.640 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the Latin Kings Gang.

531
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Ooh yeah.

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00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>The second phone number on the rental contract was traced

533
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:11.079
<v Speaker 1>to Sigfriedo Garcia, who was Lewis's childhood friend and he

534
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>had a colorful felony record. Please were able to ping

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00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>both cell phones within the vicinity of Dan's home at

536
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the time of the murder. When Dan was shot, Charlie

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00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Adelson was dating a woman named Katherine Magnanua. She had

538
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 1>been working off and on at the dental practice and

539
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>was also the mother of children of Sigfriedo Garcia. She's

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00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Sigfredo's baby mama.

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00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 2>That's right. She can help you out right.

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00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>When police looked into the phone records of Catherine and Charlie,

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00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 1>they noticed a pattern of contact that took place in

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00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the weeks leading up to the murder. When a phone

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00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>call would take place between Catherine and Charlie, there would

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00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>be another phone call right after between Catherine and Secriedo,

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00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 1>and another between Charlie and Donna his mom.

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00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Immediately after the murder, Donna Adelson talked to Charlie on

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00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the phone for seven minutes, and then Charlie made two

551
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>calls to Catherine, with one of those calls lasting five minutes.

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00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>An hour later, Secreto called Catherine. This was the first

553
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>phone call he made after the shooting. After the murder,

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00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Lewis and Secreto purchased several cars and motorcycles. Around that

555
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 1>same time, Catherine began receiving paychecks from the Adelson's dental office.

556
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:27.119
<v Speaker 1>The found that Catherine had deposited more than forty one

557
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars in cash and more than seventeen thousand dollars

558
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>in checks from the Addelson Institute into her bank account

559
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>between July twenty fourteen and November twenty fifteen. The checks

560
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 1>were signed by Donna Adelson. Dude, this is such a

561
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:44.039
<v Speaker 1>fucking paper trail.

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00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Like it is. It's so good. I mean, once you

563
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>hit the vein, man, you really hit it. I am not.

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00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I love how they've been like tracking the phone calls. Okay,

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00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.759
<v Speaker 2>once Catherine speaks to what chuck.

566
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Charlie yeah.

567
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Charlie yeah. And then Charlie mother and she calls Sigtredo.

568
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I like that they could pick up those patterns. Yeah,

570
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 2>the trail, right, yeah, the trail for sure.

571
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.519
<v Speaker 1>The Addison family claimed Catherine was employed by the clinic. However,

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00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the police Affidavid states that Catherine was only found to

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00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>be working at the dental practice one time during the

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00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>length of the investigation. The police believe Charlie was financially

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00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:28.119
<v Speaker 1>supporting Catherine in payment for Dan's murder after she and

576
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Charlie had broken up. He had even paid for her

577
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>post breakup glow up in the form of a boob job.

578
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. So then she leaves Scredo, what does

579
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>she leave Sigfredo and glows up or makes herself new?

580
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, makes herself new?

581
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Right. I can't let you know what. I can't say.

582
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't do the same. I mean, I do have

583
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>some Pinterest pictures in my own special file of work

584
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 2>I'd like done. But so, yeah, she does the glow

585
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm imagining, you know, if he's a dentist, you're

586
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 2>going to get the pills involved. So the's payments of

587
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.599
<v Speaker 2>pills prime making that up. Yeah, that's not in the story.

588
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 2>That's just my life observation. Adding to the story.

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00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.199
<v Speaker 1>In early twenty sixteen, the FBI arranged to have an

590
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>undercover officer bump into Donna Adelson posing as Lewis's brother.

591
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>The officer handed Donna a news article referencing Dan's murder

592
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.719
<v Speaker 1>with five thousand dollars and a phone number written on it.

593
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>In the conversation, the officer told Donna that he knows

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00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 1>that the Adelsons are taking care of Catherine and Sigfriedo.

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00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>He said that Lewis is in prison now and that

596
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>he'd also helped with their quote problem up North End

597
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 1>quote and they needed to take care of him too.

598
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>The purpose of this operation was to get the suspects

599
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>talking to each other, and it worked. In April twenty sixteen,

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00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Charlie met his ex girlfriend Catherine at Hilchi Vita restaurant

601
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.599
<v Speaker 1>in Miami. The FBI got a forty minute long recording

602
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.320
<v Speaker 1>at this restaurant about how to deal with someone they

603
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 1>believed to be either a blackmailer or police. Charlie suggested

604
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>making a one time charity payment to the blackmailer or

605
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 1>else killing him end quote. And so help me God,

606
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>if they fuck with my family, it's gonna be like

607
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>fucking the Nazi shit, because this will be done. You

608
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I mean, Katie, I don't care

609
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>what I spend. Okay, I swear to God, Katie, Katie,

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00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the person doesn't know end quote.

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00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah.

612
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 1>In May twenty sixteen, police announced first degree murder charges

613
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 1>for Dan's murder against Siegfrido and Lewis the rest Fi.

614
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 1>David alleges that Charlie Adelson quote reportedly did not like

615
00:35:56.760 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 1>Dan and did not get along with him end quote.

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00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 1>A probable cause Affidavid alleges that the two men were

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00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 1>enlisted to commit this egregious act, and police believe the

618
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 1>motive for the killing stemmed from the desperate desire of

619
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the Addison family to relocate Wendy and the children to

620
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 1>South Florida, along with the pending court hearing that might

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00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 1>have impacted their access to the grandchildren because remember Dan

622
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 1>had filed that motion to supervised grandparent time.

623
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah.

624
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 1>In June, both men were indicted. Court documents made public

625
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that month link Secrito to Charlie Adelson, Charlie's former girlfriend,

626
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Catherine was also the mother I told you of Sircrito's children,

627
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.599
<v Speaker 1>and Sigrido pleaded not guilty, and the state informed him

628
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>they planned to seek the death penalty. His trial was

629
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>set for November fourteenth, twenty sixteen. Louis Rivera was extradited

630
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 1>to a federal prison to remain incarcerated on unrelated charges.

631
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Because he was incarcerated that the undercover officer had told

632
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Donna remember right ye on September eighth, Lewis chose to

633
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 1>demand a speedy trial, which was set for October twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, so before Cifrito's setded up, leading guilty to

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<v Speaker 1>second degree murder on October fourth, twenty sixteen, and ultimately

636
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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to nineteen years in prison. The sentence would

637
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<v Speaker 1>run concurrently with a federal sentence in an unrelated case

638
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 1>for his statements and cooperation with prosecutors so he is

639
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<v Speaker 1>going to snitch. Evidence from the recording the FBI had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten of Catherine's meeting with Charlie at the dolci Vita

641
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<v Speaker 1>restaurant was used to arrest Catherine on charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>first degree murder on October first, twenty sixteen. She was

643
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<v Speaker 1>offered immunity in exchange for cooperation, but she refused.

644
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<v Speaker 2>I know that is ballsy, right, that is balzy.

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine in Cifriedo would be tried together in October twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>In trial, Sigfriedo was found guilty of first degree murder,

647
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<v Speaker 1>in which sentenced to life in prison. Catherine's first trial

648
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<v Speaker 1>was ruled a mistrial. She was scheduled to be tried

649
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<v Speaker 1>again in April twenty twenty, which was eventually delayed due

650
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<v Speaker 1>to the pande and then come up again until the

651
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<v Speaker 1>spring of twenty twenty two. During the long break between trials,

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecution found an audio forensic expert to enhance the

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<v Speaker 1>recording of the Dulce Vita meeting between Catherine and Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of the audio enhancement, Charlie Addison was arrested on

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty first, twenty twenty two, and charged with first

656
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<v Speaker 1>degree murder, conspiracy, and solicitation of murder in connection with

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting of Dan Markle.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally get to the I know, I mean you have

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<v Speaker 2>the two trigger guys or you know, the trigger guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the domino effect to the fiery you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the hired money, great money behind the operation yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine's retrial began March sixteenth, twenty twenty two. On May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventh, the jury returned after eight hours of deliberation

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<v Speaker 1>and with a guilty verdict of first degree murder, conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 1>and solicitation of murder. She was sentenced to life in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Andelson's trial was to begin in the spring of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, but was delayed. On September twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, Catherine turned state's witness oh he expected

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<v Speaker 1>to testify against her ex boyfriend. Charlie's trial began on

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty third, twenty twenty three. Jeffrey La case Lacas

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<v Speaker 1>took this early in the trial and detailed everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he told the police throughout their investigation. Louis Rivera took

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<v Speaker 1>the stand the following day. He detailed for the jurors

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<v Speaker 1>how he was enlisted to go to Tallahassee to murder Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>He described tailgating Dan with Sigfrido Garcia. They followed him

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<v Speaker 1>when he dropped off his kids at their preschool and

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<v Speaker 1>watched as he drove to the gym then back to

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<v Speaker 1>his house. Lewis told the court room how when they

679
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<v Speaker 1>pulled into the driveway, Sigfrido had jumped out, gone behind

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<v Speaker 1>Dan's car to the driver's side window and shot him twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow Lewis admitted that he and Secrito had driven from

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<v Speaker 1>Miami to Tallahassee on two separate occasions in the summer

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty fourteen. He stated how he didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to participate in murder until he was

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<v Speaker 1>in the car on the way to Tallahassee. He took

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<v Speaker 1>him Initially, he thought he was going up north to

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<v Speaker 1>up North Florida to commit a rock. Sigfriedo told him

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<v Speaker 1>during the car ride that he'd been hired to kill Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>He included the fact that Catherine was involved. Lewis stated, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, we were going to kill the man for

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<v Speaker 1>some kids, for a lady, because the lady wanted her

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<v Speaker 1>kids back.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>He told jurors he knew Wendy Adelson was paying for

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<v Speaker 1>the hit job.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. No, right, that's a big finger pointer

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<v Speaker 2>right there, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>In opening statements, the prosecution stated that Lewis and Sopriedo

699
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<v Speaker 1>were hired by the Andilson family and a murder for

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<v Speaker 1>hire plot posed and paid for by Charlie, Wendy and

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<v Speaker 1>Donna Adelson. Lewis stated that Catherine was the first person

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<v Speaker 1>Secreto called on the ride back to Miami after the shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>When they returned, Sigcredo, Lewis and Catherine split one hundred

704
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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars between them for the hit. Lewis said he

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<v Speaker 1>got thirty five, Cicrido got forty, and Catherine took the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Which wow, like twenty five yeah, thirty wait, thirty five yeah,

707
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<v Speaker 2>thirty five, seventy five yeah yeah wow.

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<v Speaker 1>On November sixth, twenty twenty three, Charlie Addilson was found

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<v Speaker 1>guilty a first degree murder, conspiracy to commit murder, and

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<v Speaker 1>solicitation of murder. On December twelfth, he was sentence to

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<v Speaker 1>life in prison plus sixty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. He really he won't be a free man.

713
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's not going new way noe.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>A week after Charlie was sound guilty, his parents, Donna

716
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and Harvey Addelson, were stopped in Miami in a national

717
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:03.000
<v Speaker 1>airport trying to board a flight with one way tickets

718
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<v Speaker 1>to Vietnam. Non is a country with no extradition treaty

719
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<v Speaker 1>with the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. That speaks volumes come on, don't hopeful, Jesus, I

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00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:17.320
<v Speaker 2>know now you're gonna don't even deny you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know right.

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<v Speaker 1>Donna Addison was arrested two days later. She was indicted

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<v Speaker 1>for Dan Marko's murder. In the beginning of December. She

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00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 1>was placed in solitary confinement. I'm not sure why. When

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<v Speaker 1>her attorneys brought up that she was facing cruel and

727
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<v Speaker 1>unusual punishment. Her jaw dropped when a jail official explained

728
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<v Speaker 1>that she had allegedly made comments that she wanted to die,

729
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and she'd made suicidal statements on jail house calls, which

730
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<v Speaker 1>had been recorded and monitored. Pleeted not guilty in December.

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<v Speaker 1>The trial was scheduled for the spring of twenty twenty four,

732
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<v Speaker 1>but has been delayed and seventeenth, twenty twenty four, her

733
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<v Speaker 1>trial was ended before it even began when, on the

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<v Speaker 1>first day of jury selection, her defense attorney withdrew due

735
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<v Speaker 1>to conflict of interest concerns. He had also been Charlie's

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<v Speaker 1>defense attorney, and the plan was for Donna was that

737
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<v Speaker 1>Charlie was going to take the stand, which would force

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<v Speaker 1>his own defense attorney to cross examine him, so he

739
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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be Donna's attorney because he would have xamine Charlie,

740
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:28.639
<v Speaker 1>which is a huge conflict of interest. Right, Wendy who,

741
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:30.159
<v Speaker 1>So the trial.

742
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<v Speaker 2>Hasn't began yet, Right, Donna's.

743
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Still in prison. Wendy, who has denied involvement with the

744
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>murder and testified under immunity at several trials, has not

745
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:45.519
<v Speaker 1>been charged. Neither has her father, Harvey Adelson. Wendy Edison

746
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 1>had her son's last name changed to Addison, and she

747
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>totally cut off the Marco family visitation with the kids.

748
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<v Speaker 1>In twenty sixteen, after Lewis Garcia's arrest, Affi David named

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<v Speaker 1>her family members as cocon spiras in the Yeah. In

750
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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, Ruth and Phil Markle began pushing for legislation

751
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<v Speaker 1>to give grandparents in Florida more rights to visit their

752
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:13.639
<v Speaker 1>grandchildren after the death of a parent. Markel Act was

753
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>passed in twenty twenty two and signed into law by

754
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Governor DeSantis.

755
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Wow, and that's the end.

756
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Of what I have. Michigan has grandparent rights.

757
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<v Speaker 2>Doing good.

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00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>You have to meet like certain criteria, but one of

759
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<v Speaker 1>them is if like your child is deceased. One of

760
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why you can petition for grandparents visiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for sure, grandparents are very important. Healthy grandparents are

762
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 2>very important, and you know the childhood development, absolutely, you're specialthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Healthy grandparents are very much And you know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about, you know, their Jewish faith in their life,

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<v Speaker 2>and now I know. On Facebook, I follow this woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name's Miriam, and she always and I love her

767
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<v Speaker 2>because she started, Hi, I'm Mariam, I'm an Orthodox Jew,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to show you a little bit what

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<v Speaker 2>it's like in my day. So like she goes over

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<v Speaker 2>what makes food kosher and not. You know, it's very

771
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<v Speaker 2>and within a minute of a real I love her.

772
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<v Speaker 2>You know about just everything you want to know about

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<v Speaker 2>being Orthodox to you and I want to say I remember,

774
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<v Speaker 2>I want to say that she said that her family

775
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 2>growing up didn't turn Orthodox until she was older, so

776
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:35.079
<v Speaker 2>they were always you're always Jewish, but Orthodox is that's

777
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<v Speaker 2>when you're really aware of the Jewish laws regarding all things,

778
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<v Speaker 2>but especially food. So I think maybe the Orthodox has

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<v Speaker 2>something a great deal to do with the kosher, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>observing just from my little I know she's she's just

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<v Speaker 2>a bundle of wonderful information.

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<v Speaker 1>I know nothing about Judaism. I mean the closest I've

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<v Speaker 1>learned is Netflix has a show called Nobody Wants This's

784
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 1>watched it. No, it's adorable. You should watch it. It's

785
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 1>good and it is about a Jewish rabbi who falls

786
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<v Speaker 1>in love with.

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<v Speaker 2>A shiksa oh yeah.

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00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Like a non Jewish woman. The rabbi is played by

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00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Adam Brody and he's adorable. Yeah. The woman is Kristen Bell.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I will check that out Netflix, youseud Netflix.

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00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>And they're only half hour episodes. I mean you will

792
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 1>fly through them because the story is so fucking cute.

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00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:35.039
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I really I can't wait.

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00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, there's problems because he's a rabbi and

796
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, blah blah blah.

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00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, now yeah, Netflix, love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you Shannon for listening, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you core one for listening to this week's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Because she wants looking.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris, I think that's everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's.

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<v Speaker 1>All the business. So until our next.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode, Yes, until next time you guys, take care. We

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<v Speaker 2>love you, Tanya, I love you, I love you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big love fest, so it always ends. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll see you bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't pop, don't people