Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, January twenty first, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight hundred and seventy four.
Speaker 2: I am your host, Jen Ochoa.
Speaker 1: I also have zero fear up in this house, joining
Speaker 1: me co captain of the Ship.
Speaker 2: He's strutting into the podcast actively. He's got a fantastic
Speaker 2: mask on and he's yelling at the top of his
Speaker 2: longs jeegrun.
Speaker 3: I am just saying that logically, every person who knows
Speaker 3: about Persona does know about Metal g but not everyone
Speaker 3: that knows about metal Gear knows about Persona. So if
Speaker 3: you just think about it.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. And he uh, joining us as
Speaker 2: always bad boy of games media playboy pog slammer my Minati.
Speaker 4: Who it's me. It's Mike Minaughty. I'm doing great. Nobody
Speaker 4: was mean to me on the internet lately.
Speaker 5: How about you, Jeff?
Speaker 3: Shoot, no, dang it. No, they definitely are.
Speaker 2: Man in the podcast world. He is not in Ray
Speaker 2: Mysterio Shadow. We have turn Riker. Yeah, he get people
Speaker 2: mad at you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I'd be myself usually.
Speaker 5: Really Yeah, all right, you seem worse for wear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, li'sten I'm all right, yeah, it's pretty easy to
Speaker 3: toune now, Like I wasn't even think about it, and
Speaker 3: then my brought it up. Really, I'm mad at Mike.
Speaker 4: Possibly because I don't mind people do it to me.
Speaker 4: I get very upset when these fucking shots. Sorry, but
Speaker 4: I really don't like them do their thing with Jeff.
Speaker 4: So sorry.
Speaker 3: Mike's very protective of his boy and I, but he
Speaker 3: touches my gravy train.
Speaker 5: I mean, my best friend.
Speaker 2: I have a question. What is a gravy train?
Speaker 4: Is that like when people you're in the money, but
Speaker 4: what is it? Okay, yes, but excellent point. What was
Speaker 4: it before we started using it as like you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's like a sushi boat thing right, like where
Speaker 3: it's like, now here comes the gravy train to grab
Speaker 3: the gravy white while it's here.
Speaker 4: It's gravy from the gravy capital of the world wherever
Speaker 4: that is via train literally, and when it comes in
Speaker 4: it's a big deal because it's like, oh, we're going
Speaker 4: to sell the gravy.
Speaker 3: It would be.
Speaker 5: No, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be well in the way that we're
Speaker 3: using it today. Dan, it's a metaphor. That's the way correct.
Speaker 3: I understand that, right, but the etymology of it.
Speaker 6: The last time I heard that term was I had
Speaker 6: just started the WAE and I had to call Scott
Speaker 6: Hall to get him ready for a we're gonna have
Speaker 6: him and Nash on the podcast because they're gonna put
Speaker 6: the nWo in the Hall of Fame. And I called
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm gonna tell you right away. I fucking
Speaker 6: hate podcasts. I don't want to do this fucking podcast.
Speaker 6: Only reason I'm doing it is because they're gonna put
Speaker 6: me in the Hall of Fame the second time. And
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna do anything to fuck up that gravy train,
Speaker 6: so I'm not gonna say shit, alright, this is gonna
Speaker 6: be a great episode. No show did, and Nash had
Speaker 6: to text him like thirty minutes and show yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, funny enough. That's what we all say to
Speaker 2: each other before starting any podcast, right, it's the gravy train.
Speaker 2: I now want to start an American food chain like
Speaker 2: Greb said, where it's sushi boats, but it's just a
Speaker 2: gravy train.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just a little toy trains going around with
Speaker 3: like you know, overflowing gravy.
Speaker 6: Like do you have like bread and as the boats
Speaker 6: you can dip and then you don't even have to
Speaker 6: worry about the gravy as it goes right.
Speaker 3: And then it's like you can't you physically could not
Speaker 3: double dip. I suppose you could double dip into the
Speaker 3: next solve double dipping.
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't care about double dipping. I'm fine by now.
Speaker 3: And you know what, I don't really care that much either,
Speaker 3: but I care enough when I'm around other people. I
Speaker 3: am impressed that you don't care. At your house when
Speaker 3: people are around, You're like, no, I'm double dipping. This
Speaker 3: is my stuff.
Speaker 5: But I've never thought about double dipping.
Speaker 2: I think as long as you say, hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: double dip, then that's fine. Yeah, like the unsolicited double
Speaker 2: dip to the universe. Yeah, hey, is this.
Speaker 4: An actual Phoenix down moment? Or does everybody else never
Speaker 4: realize this? Because uh so, I was thinking about Tony
Speaker 4: Hawk a lot, specifically Tony Hawk's Underground and the bad
Speaker 4: guy in that game is named Eric Sparrow, And only
Speaker 4: like yesterday I realized those are two birds deemed last names.
Speaker 5: I did not get that either.
Speaker 3: It is one of those things where it's like, I
Speaker 3: definitely you have realized it multiple times in my life
Speaker 3: because I keep forgetting it's like, oh yeah you do,
Speaker 3: Eric Sparrow, So this last time, no, I was aware.
Speaker 6: I mean I didn't get miles per hour until I
Speaker 6: was working a game Informer and Tim Terurry made a
Speaker 6: reference to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, thirty, See I got that one
Speaker 4: because the cartoon brought it up. Specifically, you need.
Speaker 5: To bring things up otherwise it's hard to understand that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, that's that's what we do on podcasts.
Speaker 2: We do nothing but bring things up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's a bring things up mechanism. It's
Speaker 3: the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not yes ending here, we're bring things up
Speaker 4: in yeah yeah, yes and then pivoting. By the way,
Speaker 4: what's that final Fantasy seven rebirth concert?
Speaker 2: Did I ask for what you guys were doing yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not there yet.
Speaker 4: That No, I just I didn't realize that was unstructure
Speaker 4: of this show.
Speaker 5: Do you know that I always saw people just started
Speaker 5: bringing ship up.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that. Like a first, I was, yes,
Speaker 4: what do we do this type he does?
Speaker 2: If he doesn't he doesn't want to yes, and us.
Speaker 2: But he's gonna bring things up all the time. I
Speaker 2: was always talk about it.
Speaker 5: Why are you gonna change this? Talk about it? Just talking? Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was great and.
Speaker 2: That's actually the jingle premiering. Uh, Mike, I'm sorry for
Speaker 2: cutting you off. I now apologize you do you? I
Speaker 2: never feel free to bring stuff up.
Speaker 3: Didn't Chris Bnadi get in a fight? What?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Something?
Speaker 5: It was fun. Chris was on something. But it's it's
Speaker 5: so funny on something. No, not like medically.
Speaker 4: Creationally. Yeah, it being my two brothers tripp to Cleveland.
Speaker 4: It's so funny with them because you know, like to that.
Speaker 4: To me, it's like, yes, it's fun. To them, it's like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm getting away from the kids. Like
Speaker 4: you know, they love their kids, but it's very exciting
Speaker 4: to have them come up and ask, you know, for
Speaker 4: a glass of water or for fifteen other things every
Speaker 4: two minutes, so they get very excited. We went to
Speaker 4: a teeki bar first in Cleveland called Porko, which by incredible,
Speaker 4: big shout outs to Porko. Amazing drinks. There's some nice
Speaker 4: small plates. They are very good. Charisa sliders at Porko.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Chris was just Chris was having a good
Speaker 4: time I own. To be clear, Chris normally the closest
Speaker 4: thing I know to an angel, honor of just a
Speaker 4: very sweet boy. Chris Bennati, super nice, not at all
Speaker 4: like me, right, not a devilish little not the Chris
Speaker 4: is a good boy. But yeah, we were at most
Speaker 4: We're at a certain German they restaurant, sitting at the bar,
Speaker 4: and Chris disappears for a bit. He had already he's
Speaker 4: already just being very goofy. Right. In fact, you saw
Speaker 4: on the menu the word like like wiener Art, right,
Speaker 4: because it was like the name of food.
Speaker 5: He thought that was very.
Speaker 4: Funny, very excited about wiener Art. They disappeared for a
Speaker 4: bit and he came back and he was wearing like
Speaker 4: a Gandolf the gray hat with the restaurant's logo on it.
Speaker 5: And we're like, hey, Chris, that's interesting. He's like hah yeah.
Speaker 4: Then everyone's like especially because it's free ha, Like like Chris,
Speaker 4: why is it? That's a joking. Later we're walking to
Speaker 4: the concert, he doesn't get like, Chris, did you steal
Speaker 4: this hat? He was like, yes I did, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: But he's like, look I tried to buy it and
Speaker 4: there's nobody there.
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean you, I know, court in the land, Jan
Speaker 3: would convict this man.
Speaker 2: All right. I mean, Chris Manati is an angel as
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 5: I wonder if he wants me to share the story.
Speaker 5: Jeff asked, how was it going?
Speaker 3: Did you see the headlines? Just says the Manati brothers
Speaker 3: got into a fight. So now that's all it's gonna
Speaker 3: be about.
Speaker 5: Man, that is not.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: We we just laughed at him a lot. He was
Speaker 4: getting having a good time. It's fine, have you I
Speaker 4: know you haven't. No, I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 4: think so. Chris was the one who was like athletic,
Speaker 4: but he has even less of a killer instinct than
Speaker 4: the rest of us, so he didn't get too far.
Speaker 2: Sporting killer, I think is one way to put it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, So, yeah.
Speaker 2: Mike, out of your three brothers, who is the muscle.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess Chris, which is the problem because it's,
Speaker 4: you know, a sweet boy. He would have heard a fly,
Speaker 4: but he's definitely has the most muscle.
Speaker 7: Are you the brains or are you the heart? I'm
Speaker 7: the goober, Yeah, the one most important? Yeah, goo guys somewhere.
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to start the podcast on a damper bike.
Speaker 2: Kind of need a Googer transplant.
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, buddy, I got extra.
Speaker 3: Turkey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what is AJ? Then Mike.
Speaker 5: The order brother, he's the he's the driver. He loves
Speaker 5: the dry.
Speaker 2: All right, another important organ.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's mostly he's the most responsible one, kind of annoyingly.
Speaker 4: He loves following the rules, and Jeff knows that I
Speaker 4: love following the rules, right, Yeah, yeah, I think Dan
Speaker 4: learned this too recently. A j loves the rules so much,
Speaker 4: gets gets very anxious if we start breaking them up.
Speaker 2: Bit.
Speaker 4: Luckily, he had also been drinking, so he mostly found
Speaker 4: Chris's theft funny. But yeah, shout out to my brothers.
Speaker 4: We had a good time at the foul Fancy Civic.
Speaker 3: Culture where so music was good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would be clear at this Fall Fantasy
Speaker 4: seven concert, we stole nothing.
Speaker 3: Okay, you would never steal from the Square Inex Corporation.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, the restaurant that you know charges you
Speaker 4: twenty bucks for a beer or whatever.
Speaker 3: That's fine, but yeah, go live? Yeah, uh are you
Speaker 3: fucking me off?
Speaker 4: Jeff? Are you really mad about the theft.
Speaker 3: Oh is that what? Oh?
Speaker 4: No, no, Yeah, the concert was fantastic.
Speaker 5: It was just specifically songs from Seven Rebirth.
Speaker 4: They played my favorite, that's that fight's song with the
Speaker 4: Valkyrie in it, just like you know, flowed really well.
Speaker 4: They do the thing where they play all these montage
Speaker 4: from the game, which the you know, it's like you
Speaker 4: know that means cutscenes, but a lot of times it
Speaker 4: just means the battle stuff without the UI. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: this fight system looks so good. I would have played
Speaker 4: more fancy seven Rebirth or Remaker, hopefully that third one
Speaker 4: at some point. It's Stanley long E merch line, which
Speaker 4: you know, like mel Gibson said, where the real money
Speaker 4: from the movie is made, right, That's right.
Speaker 2: God constantly thinking of mel Gibson.
Speaker 4: I'm constantly thinking of me. The Schwartz be with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, concert was fantastic. We just had a great trip
Speaker 4: in Cleveland in general. I know, Jeff, you're doing some
Speaker 4: some some some family stuff. Oh you had a good
Speaker 4: time though. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was the kid's birthdays. We did some stuff like that.
Speaker 3: It was a good time. Yeah. Yeah. We just got
Speaker 3: a bunch of presents and got Dan's weather became our weather.
Speaker 3: So it was getting cold, and it's gotten colder.
Speaker 5: Is it negative thirty three, because that's what it was
Speaker 5: last night?
Speaker 3: Is that the real feel?
Speaker 6: Or actually the shoot was negative eighteen? The fields like negative.
Speaker 3: We are getting there. We're getting pretty close. We're like
Speaker 3: negative nine right now. And uh and it's supposed to
Speaker 3: get colder, like they canceled school today and tomorrow because
Speaker 3: of the of the cold.
Speaker 5: But what did I actually say instead of mel Brooks?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry mel Gibson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was wondering you always, and then were.
Speaker 6: Bringing up base balls, and I was like, I had
Speaker 6: spent a long time since the host baseballs, But I
Speaker 6: don't remember mel Gibson in that.
Speaker 5: That's funny. Sorry, Jeff continued, No, it's all right.
Speaker 3: It was fun. We had We had cake and pie
Speaker 3: and other various frivolities.
Speaker 2: It was a good time, lovely, lovely.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: I guess this is kind of related to playing. But yo,
Speaker 2: I went to a top golf over the weekend to
Speaker 2: celebrate a friend's birthday. We should go, Oh, yes, we
Speaker 2: should go.
Speaker 3: It's just a good time, right, I would do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea that they had games, and yeah,
Speaker 2: they have sonic, they have angry birds. I'm terrible at it,
Speaker 2: but I eventually got the hand of it. Good time,
Speaker 2: Good time. Also, it's a fun little mini game to
Speaker 2: try and hit the person driving the little cart around
Speaker 2: collecting all the ball.
Speaker 3: That is an incredibly like It's just like when they
Speaker 3: put one of those flies on the inside of a
Speaker 3: yarnal to try to get guys to aim better. It's
Speaker 3: that for golf.
Speaker 6: Are they protected, like do they have helmets and stuff
Speaker 6: they get there's like a cage.
Speaker 5: Oh okay, okay, I wouldn't want to, Like, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Trying to murder something.
Speaker 5: I don't do that.
Speaker 3: No, of course not. I j.
Speaker 4: Bod I yes, I just like got so spiffy in there.
Speaker 4: And you have like, you know, a waiter, and it's
Speaker 4: just like you're playing these these fun games and you're
Speaker 4: you know, drinking. Every once a while a nice person
Speaker 4: comes up and asks you want more food or to drink.
Speaker 4: It's just very pleasant.
Speaker 2: It is very pleasant.
Speaker 3: It's the ideal form of golf. I think, yes, oh absolutely.
Speaker 2: Also, you know, I kind of this is just me
Speaker 2: being foofye doofy, But like I take an issue with
Speaker 2: golf courses taking up so much land, but like a
Speaker 2: driving range that's perfectly for exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you put that like they're just gonna put
Speaker 3: it in the parking lot that's already there, which is
Speaker 3: something that's happening not too far from me. So I'm
Speaker 3: pretty excited.
Speaker 2: To tell you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's already one in Cleveland on the other side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the other side of the city. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been there. It's very nice. We get time there.
Speaker 4: I definitely want to go back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think we'd have a ball of a time.
Speaker 2: Is that the phrase balls? But the thing that they
Speaker 2: bring out of my mouth the mood down is the
Speaker 2: people that go to top golf and take everything too seriously.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny people take even that seriously. That's incredible
Speaker 4: pop golf. Yeah, there are a lot of there. You
Speaker 4: know the floor we were at, because it's I guess
Speaker 4: most top golfs are like at least three floors. The
Speaker 4: floor we were on several other birthdays celebrating, but then
Speaker 4: like two groups next to us on either flanking our party,
Speaker 4: they all brought their own clubs, and like it's eleven
Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning, people are already getting a little
Speaker 4: a little bit buzzed, and I'm like, y'all, y'all are
Speaker 4: taking this too seriously. Y'all don't need to be wearing
Speaker 4: your gloves and have cleats too. Fucking top literally don't
Speaker 4: need cleats, that's the point, Like.
Speaker 3: They would be destructive to the top golf. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've never been. Can you walk me through? Like, so
Speaker 3: you go there and they'll like just give you a
Speaker 3: set of clubs? Do you have to rent them? Like
Speaker 3: how do they work?
Speaker 2: There's like a set of clubs, like just like how
Speaker 2: bowling balls are to the side at a bowling alley,
Speaker 2: and like they have the whole range that they got
Speaker 2: drivers woods, nine irons to like whatever is the lowest
Speaker 2: number of irons. And then they have two specific clubs
Speaker 2: for for top golf itself, which are just like bigger
Speaker 2: driver clubs. And then yeah, you just take turns, can you.
Speaker 5: If it's a driving range, why would you go with
Speaker 5: like a lower club, Well.
Speaker 3: The driving range, you could practice any shot you want
Speaker 3: for a closer one, ok.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah exactly, because you know they'll have targets
Speaker 2: across the field for like you know, distance and stuff,
Speaker 2: but they also have some closer targets in case you're
Speaker 2: trying to work on your different swings now. But the
Speaker 2: I don't understand the tech of it, and I'm assuming
Speaker 2: each individual golf ball has some type of tracker on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they all have some kind of yeah exactly hire
Speaker 4: thing or whatever, because.
Speaker 2: It's insane how like I will miss the ball and
Speaker 2: I don't know where it went, and then like I'll
Speaker 2: look at the screen below me of like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: tracking it, and like, oh, it went over there.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 2: But the Angry Birds implementation, it's like kind of goofy,
Speaker 2: but it is very fun.
Speaker 6: I was gonna ask, is there a thing like when
Speaker 6: you get a strike or a spare and bowling and
Speaker 6: there's like a fun like you know, anthropomorphic pins being
Speaker 6: you know, acting out of skit.
Speaker 5: Is there anything like that?
Speaker 3: There should be?
Speaker 5: I really love that noise.
Speaker 3: I watch animations like that for fun in my free time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my anime.
Speaker 4: The top Golf is all the other sports too, right,
Speaker 4: Like I want like baseball dry like like batty cage
Speaker 4: version of golf, giant dart boards, like like human sized
Speaker 4: dart boards.
Speaker 5: Basketball thing. We're all just trying to make three point shots.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Gun, Oh my god, I would let y'all,
Speaker 2: uh yeah, gun human dart me like via catapult like mysterio. No.
Speaker 2: I would wear like a velcrow suit and let y'all
Speaker 2: like jump on a catapult to launch me onto like
Speaker 2: a dartboard. I was.
Speaker 3: We went to a a thing like it was the
Speaker 3: last fourth of July. I can't remember, but they had
Speaker 3: like a kid's play area and one of the things
Speaker 3: was put on a velcrow suit and get launched up
Speaker 3: at a wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I waited a line for a long time. I
Speaker 3: actually met a giant bomb fan in that in that line,
Speaker 3: and uh, and just got the kid in there and
Speaker 3: just basically just tossed her at a wall. She had
Speaker 3: a great time, loved to.
Speaker 2: Did the GB fan bring their own velcro suit?
Speaker 3: No? No, they weren't taking it quite as seriously as sum.
Speaker 3: There was definitely some people getting very competitive. Yeah.
Speaker 2: How's everything else going, gents? How we had a long weekend? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel rested.
Speaker 3: It was necessary. Yeah, I don't know if I feel rustic.
Speaker 3: So it's like one of those things where I'm like
Speaker 3: I let things pile up over the holidays so bad
Speaker 3: that I'm like still kind of unburying myself from that,
Speaker 3: and it's causing like stress, so I feel like, oh,
Speaker 3: if I try to relax, I feel bad. So trying
Speaker 3: to get over that hump. But the three day we
Speaker 3: can helped with that. A lot of that stuff is
Speaker 3: mostly taken care of. So yeah, feeling good.
Speaker 6: I had a day that was very I guess busy technically,
Speaker 6: but very relaxing, and that they readed the tow up
Speaker 6: the carpet and put some new floors in here, so
Speaker 6: I had to come in here and like take everything
Speaker 6: out and like it. It just turned into one of
Speaker 6: those days where I sent the entire day going through everything,
Speaker 6: like all of my boxes reor It's like, if I
Speaker 6: got to take all this shit out of the room anyway,
Speaker 6: I'm going to put everything together in the middle of
Speaker 6: the floor, and I'm going to reorganize cables and game
Speaker 6: collections stuff and make sure everything has a logic and
Speaker 6: a rhyme and a reason to it. It's been all
Speaker 6: fucking day doing that. At the end, it's like, Oh,
Speaker 6: I just kind of know where everything is now and
Speaker 6: it's not crazy spot.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's great. I like everybody gets rid of carpet
Speaker 5: for hardwood floor.
Speaker 4: I have a room in my house that has like
Speaker 4: a hard floor that I desperately want carpet in, and
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm some kind of weirdo.
Speaker 6: Carpet's an old thing now. I feel like people don't
Speaker 6: like carpet anymore. I mean, like, but when you're looking
Speaker 6: for houses and stuff, it's always like, yeah, like real
Speaker 6: estate people are always like, oh, this is all hardwood,
Speaker 6: this is allems. Like you can tear up the carpet,
Speaker 6: you know, Like I think, like generally, why I.
Speaker 5: Feel like a freak, Like why if I like, still
Speaker 5: you are, yeah, you are, You're a pervert. Carpet's gross. Yeah.
Speaker 3: People always put a rug on the hardwood floor, which
Speaker 3: I have, and but this one back here I just
Speaker 3: put down recently and it's so cozy and company the
Speaker 3: kids came and like play on it. So yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 3: you still get the benefit of like a nice.
Speaker 5: So I don't want to talk about that anymore.
Speaker 4: I wish that I like college football more because gosh,
Speaker 4: Ohio State, he is winning things just right, Like gosh,
Speaker 4: I love all these other sports, but all the it's
Speaker 4: always teams that lose all the time. Why don't I
Speaker 4: just become an L s U fan, then I could
Speaker 4: be happy when they do things like when yeah.
Speaker 3: Is it is it like because you know Youngstown or
Speaker 3: where'd you go to school?
Speaker 4: You sound y s U?
Speaker 3: Yeah team, but.
Speaker 5: It was a different division.
Speaker 3: No, no, of course, right. But it's like you guys
Speaker 3: were just like just out of the orbit of Central
Speaker 3: Ohio enough that you guys maybe weren't in.
Speaker 5: It of people here, who are you fans? I'm always surprised.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think I just kind of like don't respect college football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they are they are getting paid, so they
Speaker 3: aren't people. In Mike's opinion, there's always a little bit
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, yeah, taking this really serious, right, It's
Speaker 4: like I'm not going to the high school football game too,
Speaker 4: but whatever, right, Like it's fine.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I just rather get invested in the pro stuff,
Speaker 4: even though the Browns are freaking terrible, but whatever, go Bucks.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 6: I lived right by the football stadium. It was where
Speaker 6: my apartment was, and so Saturday, I think was game day,
Speaker 6: and every Saturday I would fucking wake up hung over
Speaker 6: because Friday night I'm out all night and I sleep,
Speaker 6: don't set an alarm, and then I wake up. I'll
Speaker 6: know it's football season because I wake up to a
Speaker 6: formation of fucking jets flying over my apartment. I'm thinking
Speaker 6: I'm getting bombed every Saturday morning.
Speaker 4: Terrible, Yes, Jesus, yeah, yeah. How many times in your
Speaker 4: lives you have? Have you, guys thought I think we
Speaker 4: might be getting bombed a.
Speaker 2: Lot because I live Because I live in California, I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, I'm closer than everyone else.
Speaker 4: That's the thing that saves me is that I'm like, wait, oh, buddy,
Speaker 4: what's to bomb this place?
Speaker 3: When I was in Colorado, I wasn't far from Colorado
Speaker 3: Colorado Springs, which is like strategically super important for a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff. It's like where the Air Force is based.
Speaker 3: And so there's definitely times where I would like hear
Speaker 3: something like that is not a normal jet, and I
Speaker 3: would look up and it's like, oh, that is a
Speaker 3: stealth bomber. But I wouldn't think we were getting bombed,
Speaker 3: like they're going to bomb somebody. All right, cool, we're.
Speaker 5: Good zero for me. I've never thought that you have
Speaker 5: thought it?
Speaker 4: No, just about it. I thought you said you just
Speaker 4: don't getting bombed. It just woke you just said in
Speaker 4: the story.
Speaker 6: Oh, because basically, shoot jetter flying over my house and
Speaker 6: I was hungover. I didn't know I was discobopulated, So
Speaker 6: you thought you were getting bombed, I was saying for
Speaker 6: comedic effect, I didn't shoot think I was getting bombed.
Speaker 4: Mike, you lied to me anyway.
Speaker 2: I Uh. I was at a at an album release
Speaker 2: party on Friday, and I was feeling socially awkward. So
Speaker 2: I went into the kitchen of the place and my
Speaker 2: friend was there because he was working the kitchen, and
Speaker 2: then he just offers like, hey, jan you want some
Speaker 2: jungle juice?
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: Then I'm like, where where do you have this jungle
Speaker 2: juice stored? Friend? And he opens up the fridge and
Speaker 2: it's a walking fridge, pulls out a giant vat, he
Speaker 2: gets a comically large whisk to whisk it and then, oh, boy.
Speaker 5: I don't know it's been a while speaking about hangover.
Speaker 1: You don't you don't want to ever clear and that
Speaker 1: he said that there was too much tequila in it.
Speaker 2: Uh, and it was masked by all of the fruit juices. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds rough.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 8: Anyway, whatever, happened to tilaquilas in the cabinet, I think, Okay,
Speaker 8: I wouldn't put it past.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, hey, speaking about descending back into madness.
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to play too many things
Speaker 2: over the break, but you know what I did see.
Speaker 2: You know what I did play the game of witnessing people.
Speaker 2: Go google Gaga for Pokemon cards.
Speaker 5: Oh, we were at a shoot store.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the venue?
Speaker 2: A Costco?
Speaker 3: Okay, so there's two kinds of sickos, Pokemon sicicos and
Speaker 3: Costco sicicos.
Speaker 2: Right, people have graduated from being like Target store stands
Speaker 2: to Costco stands. It's very weird to see the production.
Speaker 2: Do you think it's the Costco guys. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's related to the Costco guys. Yeah yeah, they're
Speaker 2: definitely like patient zero of like the Costco craze. Maybe anyway,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just I'm just rolling up trying to
Speaker 2: get my rotisserie chicken, and then the clock strikes eleven,
Speaker 2: and then out of nowhere, I see a swarm of
Speaker 2: what I can only politely describe as fucking nerds rolling
Speaker 2: to this old man pushing a palette over, unwrapping it
Speaker 2: in unwrapping the plastic. I'm like, what are these guys
Speaker 2: like fawning over? And he has to like tell them
Speaker 2: to back up, and he's just saying limit to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, I am curious, like when you realized what
Speaker 3: was happening, So keep keep going with that in mind.
Speaker 2: I was looking at like because they were long boxes,
Speaker 2: and then I was thinking like, Okay, this isn't food,
Speaker 2: this isn't clothing because why would people go to Costco
Speaker 2: and like line up for clothing? And there were no
Speaker 2: samples of course, so I'm like, all right, what are they?
Speaker 2: And then I started looking at the fucking nerds and
Speaker 2: I'm like, this can only be for one thing. This
Speaker 2: can only be for one thing.
Speaker 4: And then like.
Speaker 5: They was.
Speaker 2: It was a stink line like.
Speaker 5: A Golden Idol scene.
Speaker 3: Barber Jan talking about the new hat that Pokemon or
Speaker 3: Pikachu has or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they form a line, they queue up, and then
Speaker 2: the first person in line there's a giant stack like
Speaker 2: a palette of Pokemon cards, right, and I noticed that
Speaker 2: what it is and he is I this whole stack
Speaker 2: from top to bottom, trying to like jenga Jenga piece
Speaker 2: which one which two boxes he's gonna fucking take, and
Speaker 2: then everyone behind him is groaning and yelling at him.
Speaker 2: It's like, fucking get your cards. And the guy gets
Speaker 2: his two cards, and then more people get their two
Speaker 2: cards or two boxes of cards, and like I check
Speaker 2: out and then I'm hanging out on the food court
Speaker 2: eating my hot dog, and there were so many people
Speaker 2: at self checkout at regular checkout with Pokemon cards and
Speaker 2: I and it is the uh og one fifty one set,
Speaker 2: which people are going wild for because it has like,
Speaker 2: uh I think a very popular it's either it's probably
Speaker 2: a Chargezard card, but I think it. There's also a
Speaker 2: Blastois card. And I was just very thankful that I
Speaker 2: was in one of these people. I think I've kicked
Speaker 2: the habit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I've been many fun though. But he
Speaker 4: said it was a one fifty one set. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that sounds pretty nice actually, but he was.
Speaker 2: He was insane because so many people had camped out
Speaker 2: afterwards and gone to the food court, taken up all
Speaker 2: the tables, not eating anything, taking up so much space
Speaker 2: for the people that are like trying to like have
Speaker 2: a quick snack or meal with their family, and they're
Speaker 2: like ripping open these cards.
Speaker 4: And just trying to wait to go home.
Speaker 2: Huh, couldn't even wait to go home. And then and
Speaker 2: then I saw a guy that I recognized that was
Speaker 2: early in the queue come back around to uh to
Speaker 2: check out, and then they told him like, no, man,
Speaker 2: you can't, you can't buy them. You were a hit
Speaker 2: your two two boxes per limit, and he was freaking out.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he was causing a scene.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, the average around.
Speaker 2: My age mid thirties, right, yeah, mid thirties.
Speaker 5: So is this a nostalgia play?
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, yeah. I think I think of the
Speaker 3: people that you're describing as they sound healthy and normal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I will say I did see a couple
Speaker 2: vapes afterwards, of people carrying their Pokemon cards and vaping afterwards.
Speaker 3: I'm just not smoking cigarettes, so yeah, help, Hey, things
Speaker 3: are going great across the board. What the hell?
Speaker 2: Anyways, I felt like I should get a part time
Speaker 2: job at Costco so I can pill for these cards,
Speaker 2: just because I think it'd be hilarious. Also, like a
Speaker 2: lot of them were.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: One guy pulled out a scale for his cards to
Speaker 2: weigh them.
Speaker 3: Yes, like some packs weigh more if they have the
Speaker 3: right card.
Speaker 2: Incredible, right because like I guess, the rarer cards are
Speaker 2: a little thicker, right, the foil the foil, yes, so
Speaker 2: that they were weighing cards. And then I swear to god,
Speaker 2: I saw so many eBay apps open just waiting to
Speaker 2: also sell, like the whole boxes and everything, And there
Speaker 2: were plenty of like parents that also just bought into
Speaker 2: the hype. And you know, when you see a line,
Speaker 2: you just go after it. Also, sure right, you don't
Speaker 2: want to miss out?
Speaker 5: Yeah, ah gosh.
Speaker 2: I Pokemon cards are a problem. Just play the And
Speaker 2: the thing is that that bugs me the most. I
Speaker 2: bet you ninety percent of these people buying all these
Speaker 2: boxes have no idea how to play the game.
Speaker 4: Oh there was sure scalpers, right, which you know I do.
Speaker 4: I like scalpers at least because they helped me feel
Speaker 4: like I have a real job, which is something.
Speaker 6: I remember that week that the PS three and the
Speaker 6: we were coming out, they're like a week apart, and
Speaker 6: I was writing for the paper, and both nights that
Speaker 6: they were coming out, like the night before I went
Speaker 6: to Walmart, went to best Buy, I went to Target,
Speaker 6: to all the lines and went down and was like,
Speaker 6: I think I shot a video like interview and everyone asking,
Speaker 6: and it was something like ninety eight percent of people
Speaker 6: were there just to sell them on eBay, you know,
Speaker 6: like they'd be like one guy at the front that's
Speaker 6: like I'm just really excited about resistance, Like the rest
Speaker 6: were just all selling them.
Speaker 2: Well, talking about paper cards to paper Mario, Jeff Grubb,
Speaker 2: you've been playing Paper Mario thee thousand Year Door, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about my good friend Mike. You wanted
Speaker 3: me to finish this game, and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 3: I do enjoy it, why don't I go back there?
Speaker 3: And as soon as I picked it back up, it
Speaker 3: was to get onto the train, which turns out to
Speaker 3: be like kind of a mystery, a bunch of mysteries.
Speaker 3: There's a detective, and I'm like, well, had I known this,
Speaker 3: I would have been back here immediately. It just continues
Speaker 3: to be very fun, very good. It's I definitely like
Speaker 3: just lost my momentum with it and so just be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll force myself to go back and that was the
Speaker 3: right choice. I'm gonna see it through now. I you know,
Speaker 3: I think I'm still at a point with that game
Speaker 3: where the structure of each of these adventures like going
Speaker 3: from one to the other maybe did get a bit samey.
Speaker 3: So having this break helped with that. I think had
Speaker 3: I gone right back into this after cleaning the thing
Speaker 3: before it, I probably would have been feeling a little
Speaker 3: bit worn out by the formula. But in this moment,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh no, it's just a pleasant game with
Speaker 3: really fun characters, really sharp writing. I like, I like
Speaker 3: the combat still and now we're getting long breaks between
Speaker 3: next it's it's playing around doing a bunch of other
Speaker 3: things on this train. We're just investigating things. There's a
Speaker 3: couple of people asking me to look for some stuff.
Speaker 3: It's not like big and sprawling. It's a train, so
Speaker 3: I kind of know where everything is so it's easy
Speaker 3: to manage. Uh yeah, just continues to be a very
Speaker 3: very solid game that I'm I'm happy I'm going to
Speaker 3: finish here.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's definitely one of go ahead chance.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I think I got to pick this up. Now,
Speaker 2: I think I got I've never played Paper in Your Door.
Speaker 5: Oh you never played Janet.
Speaker 4: It's so good and you know that chapter structure like
Speaker 4: so yeah, sometimes it can be a little bit like, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of like up and down, up and down.
Speaker 4: But each chapter does a pretty good job of switching
Speaker 4: things up, and some of them really switch things up,
Speaker 4: like this train murder mystery parody moment here right, which
Speaker 4: again is just sort of really well done and it
Speaker 4: is a lot of fun. Relatively laterish in the game,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think, Jeff, well, what else do you have?
Speaker 4: You have you done? That's what island one?
Speaker 3: I don't know there's I think there's just this and
Speaker 3: then and then one kind of thing after this, one
Speaker 3: chapter after this.
Speaker 4: And then lead ish.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sure, there's like the pro wrestling section, which is incredible.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, where you get your own little baby Yoshi.
Speaker 4: It randomizes the color of it, so it's very exciting
Speaker 4: to see what color you get.
Speaker 3: What what's Mario's wrestling name?
Speaker 5: Oh the Great, the Great Gonzales.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, it's great.
Speaker 4: It as gray as the baby Yoshi like only knows
Speaker 4: him as that because he's born he's the Great Gonsolate,
Speaker 4: so he after the entire game, we'll call him Gonzale.
Speaker 6: To play this remake because I played with that. I
Speaker 6: only went through the one time, and it was like
Speaker 6: five years ago. I feel like I kind of want
Speaker 6: to play it again.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so really good.
Speaker 5: It's so freaking good.
Speaker 4: Like playing through, I'm like, oh this, you know, it
Speaker 4: was always either this or Mario RPG is my favorite,
Speaker 4: and playing both of the remakes and I enjoyed both
Speaker 4: of them, I am like, no, it's thousand year Door.
Speaker 4: This game is too freaking good.
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, question for you boys, what is the
Speaker 2: best fake wrestler name.
Speaker 6: Fake wrestler as in in a movie or TV show?
Speaker 6: It's Thunderlips, right, Thunderlips is good. Captain Insana, Captain Insanos.
Speaker 6: The Kevin Sana was a wrestler in The Water Boy, right, Like.
Speaker 2: Yes, Boom is.
Speaker 3: Good and really the way he sells sells show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it might be Bones. What's the name of the
Speaker 4: guy in uh gosh, the freaking weird comedy with David
Speaker 4: Arquette and.
Speaker 5: Ready to Rumble.
Speaker 6: Oh, he's just like the King, right he's it's Oliver Platt,
Speaker 6: which was the weirdest.
Speaker 5: Yeah, God, that movie sucks.
Speaker 3: I love Oliver Platt.
Speaker 4: Jimmy King, Jimmy King.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's that's the Have you seen the.
Speaker 6: Clip of David Arquette on Nitro eating ship through the
Speaker 6: gimmick stage.
Speaker 4: No, it's incredible.
Speaker 5: I probably saw it at the time and GDP.
Speaker 6: Are climbing the like tron to do a spot and
Speaker 6: the stage was gimmicked because they were going to do
Speaker 6: a spot where they fell off and fell through the stage.
Speaker 6: When David Arquette was supposed to be in that spot,
Speaker 6: they just told him, like, hey, go out through the
Speaker 6: tron and just take a rite and go over there
Speaker 6: and then do whatever. They didn't tell him the stage
Speaker 6: was gimmicked, so he just ate ship through this like
Speaker 6: wooden stage that was gimmick to like shatter and everything.
Speaker 6: You can see You see David Arquette leave the frame
Speaker 6: and then the camera pans over and he's just in
Speaker 6: a hole.
Speaker 4: Cat hole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4: There could be there could be a at least caught
Speaker 4: again hole.
Speaker 5: King of the Ring, Ring of the King. I don't
Speaker 5: know read forget the name of it. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 5: very generic name.
Speaker 2: Rumble Bone Saw is very good and that's.
Speaker 6: The best casting, like weird past his prime macho. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's great. That's like rap album era macho man.
Speaker 3: It's a good line.
Speaker 2: Read oo he's ready. Yeah, I feel like there was
Speaker 2: no direction, No, Raimy just let him.
Speaker 4: Cook and he was the good guy in that scene
Speaker 4: because Spider Man got homophobic or something, right.
Speaker 2: Ye, right, yeah, and then his uncle died.
Speaker 5: He let it happen.
Speaker 4: He let it happen.
Speaker 5: Spider Man hel.
Speaker 2: He has heal moments.
Speaker 3: Okay, definitely.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Speaking about going back to games, Jeff Grubb,
Speaker 2: You've also gone back to Star Wars Outlaws.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, so, I think I've been mentioning
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks here on the BombCast that
Speaker 3: was having a hard time focusing on stuff and starting
Speaker 3: up new games, and I'm like, I think, really big
Speaker 3: part of it is there's so a handful of things
Speaker 3: I want to clear up from last year and keep playing.
Speaker 3: And when I was like super honest with myself, it's
Speaker 3: like the one I want to be playing the most
Speaker 3: of Star Wars Outlaws, So I've gone back to that.
Speaker 3: They've updated a bunch so it runs better. The gameplay improvements,
Speaker 3: I feel like they just added some extra juice on
Speaker 3: top of everything. There's definitely the aspects of people being like, oh,
Speaker 3: the automatic failure in stealth scenes is they did that?
Speaker 3: So it's like it's no longer going to be an
Speaker 3: automatic failure. You can continue to play through that and
Speaker 3: just shoot your way out if you want, Like, great,
Speaker 3: that's awesome. I didn't notice that too much because I
Speaker 3: would just sneak through and usually get through and it
Speaker 3: would be fine. Skill issue is what you're saying, skill
Speaker 3: issue exactly, I think. I think the other part of
Speaker 3: this A lot of those things happened earlier in the game,
Speaker 3: and it's one of the reasons I think the game
Speaker 3: had such a rough patch early on. It's like people
Speaker 3: would just play these parts and hate it and not
Speaker 3: get to a lot of the good stuff. Later, I'm
Speaker 3: into a lot of the good stuff, and I think
Speaker 3: the extra juice is like the blaster fire just seems
Speaker 3: a lot more like vibrant and alive, Like getting shot
Speaker 3: at now feels dangerous and cool, and your weapon Like
Speaker 3: part of it is I've upgraded my weapons so that
Speaker 3: it feels cooler, but just like getting shot at by
Speaker 3: enemies feels so cool now. So these action sequences are
Speaker 3: even more effective than they were before. And then you
Speaker 3: still have all of the awesome connective tissue that made
Speaker 3: this game so neat in the first place, which is
Speaker 3: going to these cool planets like Jimmy and it being
Speaker 3: this you know, snow planet that's kind of like Tibet
Speaker 3: a little bit, and going through there and finding all
Speaker 3: the food vendors all that stuff is still awesome. And
Speaker 3: now because the performance, it looks better than ever and
Speaker 3: runs really well, and you know, I'm getting like one
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty frames per second with the lyss and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, so it just looks really smooth, and
Speaker 3: I'm just enjoying being in that place. I think I've
Speaker 3: come to accept that I like being on the planets.
Speaker 3: And then anytime I do like a little side quest
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, now getting the ship and go
Speaker 3: fly out to a random point in space and do
Speaker 3: something out there and then come back to the plan
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't want to do that, Like, let
Speaker 3: me just stay on this planet. So there's some aspects
Speaker 3: of like the structure that I'm still not in love with.
Speaker 3: I think this is still mostly an okay to good game.
Speaker 3: I think it's landing more towards good these days, but
Speaker 3: you know it's not one. I'm like, hey, this was
Speaker 3: a nine out of ten, and you should have spent
Speaker 3: seventy dollars on it the day it came out. This
Speaker 3: is definitely Hey, if you can get it for forty
Speaker 3: to fifty dollars and you understand some of its flaws
Speaker 3: and shortcomings and you're okay with still liking a game
Speaker 3: despite those things, it's still that. But for me, it's
Speaker 3: like that, I throw that stuff out immediately and I'm
Speaker 3: just now just having a really good time with it still, Greb.
Speaker 2: Do you think this game would have performed differently if
Speaker 2: it wasn't tied to Ubisoft?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I do think there's a Yeah, ubi
Speaker 3: Seft's just having a thing right at a moment right now where, Yeah,
Speaker 3: people hear that name and they have a certain idea
Speaker 3: of what those games are going to be a lot
Speaker 3: of times a correct estimation of what those games are
Speaker 3: going to be, and they're burnt out by that, and
Speaker 3: they don't trust that company, and they you know, think
Speaker 3: that you know, I could just wait a little bit
Speaker 3: and get it on sale and then that's what that
Speaker 3: game's actually worth. So the idea that you're even trying
Speaker 3: to charge seventy dollars out of the gate in the
Speaker 3: first place is an insult to me. Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: Ubisoft has just got some bad juju right now, and
Speaker 3: that's hurting all the stuff it puts out. Well, see
Speaker 3: how that works out for Shadows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine. Everyone's just going to start charging one
Speaker 2: hundred dollars for games and that's going to save everything.
Speaker 3: Man, we'll talk about that in the news.
Speaker 2: Yeah, motherfuckers. If you missed it. Last Friday, we did
Speaker 2: a charity stream for La Wildfire Relief and Mikey you
Speaker 2: put on the rundown Bowser's Fury.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny because you know we did
Speaker 4: that race, but the race was just to beat the game,
Speaker 4: so we all did that also, me, Jeff, Dan and Sean.
Speaker 4: That was just such a fantastic time. That was one
Speaker 4: of my favorite dreams we ever did here. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 4: doing it for a good cause getting to hang out,
Speaker 4: but also Bowser's Fury. Gosh, that is a fun game
Speaker 4: that like you know open world structure there where there's
Speaker 4: there's basically just all these mini levels floating amongst this
Speaker 4: open world and you use plessy to kind of swim
Speaker 4: your way between them. And I'm like this and this
Speaker 4: was kind of like the somewhat test Slash Drone together
Speaker 4: version of that idea that was made to kind of
Speaker 4: give a little bit of a bonus to the three
Speaker 4: D world port on switch Boy. I'm excited to see
Speaker 4: what the new three D Mario is. I'm like kind
Speaker 4: of like preparing myself now that it might not be
Speaker 4: a long schame for the switch too, if it's Mario
Speaker 4: Kart instead of that. But a guy, I used to
Speaker 4: hope that it's this year because Bowser's Fury was still
Speaker 4: just so much fun, very easy game to play through
Speaker 4: in one sitting.
Speaker 6: I feel like it was easy to forget how good
Speaker 6: it was too, because I don't know if you were
Speaker 6: like me where it's like it came out. I heard
Speaker 6: it was like a five hour thing. I played through
Speaker 6: it all in like one or two sittings, loved it,
Speaker 6: remember loving it, and then I didn't touch it since then.
Speaker 6: So it's been like since it came out that I
Speaker 6: last touched it, and it's like immediately been like, oh, right,
Speaker 6: this is I want this to be the blueprint for
Speaker 6: every Mario going forward, and.
Speaker 4: For me personally, like my association was with Bowser's Fury
Speaker 4: became more, oh this is the game I got in
Speaker 4: trouble in the tend with because I said how many
Speaker 4: catch shines were in it and it wasn't supposed to write,
Speaker 4: so like you know, the meme became reality there a
Speaker 4: little bit. So it was nice to remember, no, no,
Speaker 4: this is actually a very very good game. It was
Speaker 4: worth going to Nintendo G four.
Speaker 3: It'll wait for me.
Speaker 2: It's a game you did your time, Mike, It's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right, Yeah, you've been rehabilitated. I think for
Speaker 3: me it's always a reminder of assessing games in the
Speaker 3: time and then assessing games years later, especially once you
Speaker 3: start getting out of the generation that it's in. It's
Speaker 3: a very different thing. It just is. And what I
Speaker 3: want from a game when I am like reviewing it
Speaker 3: and recommending it to people and I know they have
Speaker 3: to pay a lot of money for it is very different.
Speaker 3: Then it's like, what are some good games on this
Speaker 3: system that is no longer you know, a going concern
Speaker 3: and the switch is not there, but it's getting there,
Speaker 3: And so I'm having that retrospective vision now and looking
Speaker 3: at it's like, well, clearly, yes, Bowser's Fury is a
Speaker 3: standout game on the Switch because you don't have to
Speaker 3: be like worrying about oh, and it's only three to
Speaker 3: four hours at this point. That is a positive for
Speaker 3: that game, where it maybe was not when it first
Speaker 3: came out. So yeah, I think at the time it
Speaker 3: was it was easier to forget. And now as we
Speaker 3: get out of the switch, it's gonna be one of
Speaker 3: those where it's like, oh, yeah, that system had Bowser's Fury,
Speaker 3: one of the you know, one of the best three
Speaker 3: D platformers ever. Who cares how long it.
Speaker 6: Is, so grab you're doing these reappraisals, now is it
Speaker 6: time for Red Dead two?
Speaker 3: For you? I will always be willing to reappraise something.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I did do that one stream where
Speaker 3: it's I went in there and immediately had a bad
Speaker 3: time again.
Speaker 6: But I would say don't stream it because I've considered
Speaker 6: that several times as I started playing it again, like oh,
Speaker 6: maybe I'll just stream some like Bounty Hunts or something here.
Speaker 6: But then the second no, this is gonna be my
Speaker 6: playoff line.
Speaker 3: So there is what's his name, the guy that sits
Speaker 3: on the exercise ball on YouTube. He did Abe Newle, Yes,
Speaker 3: Gabe newele I can't I can't remember his name. He
Speaker 3: started ball media someone in chat will help me remember.
Speaker 3: But he did a Red Dead Redemption two video not
Speaker 3: long after I did my story on Gamespeed explained why
Speaker 3: I thought it was a disappointment, and his video was like,
Speaker 3: point by point, like all the stuff I was feeling.
Speaker 3: He did a great job, Naked Jaki, Thank you everybody.
Speaker 3: He did a great job of extrapolating on those ideas
Speaker 3: and saying all the things that I was feeling. He
Speaker 3: then did another video recently, I think last year, where
Speaker 3: he's like he went back to Red Dead Redemption two
Speaker 3: and he said I found ways to appreciate it. He
Speaker 3: mostly found ways to appreciate it by installing mods. And
Speaker 3: I think that is probably my way to get to
Speaker 3: a game that I will really love from Red Dead
Speaker 3: Redemption two is make it my own sure, and so
Speaker 3: I will probably go that route, and I'm sure I
Speaker 3: would have a good time with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big Naturals, I got it.
Speaker 3: Grub, thank you, thank you for understanding.
Speaker 2: I think it speaks to how good of a game
Speaker 2: Bowser's fury is because when you three and Sean get
Speaker 2: into the competitive mode, I noticed a little bit of
Speaker 2: tension and salt building up. But I don't think there
Speaker 2: was any real tension or any real fury or hurry
Speaker 2: amongst y'all. You all were just enjoying the game. It
Speaker 2: was a race a bit, that's it.
Speaker 6: I would have played it probably a bit differently, Like
Speaker 6: if we weren't racing at every one of those islands,
Speaker 6: I would have gotten all five of those yeah coctibles
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. But like it was a fun
Speaker 6: addition to it where it's like, am I gonna waste
Speaker 6: the time to find these last two cat things?
Speaker 5: Or do I need to fucking move here?
Speaker 6: Like I would do this exact race again with this
Speaker 6: exact same Yeah, Like I feel like that's it feels
Speaker 6: ever going to me.
Speaker 2: It was so much fun and it was a good
Speaker 2: time because of that, Dan Reikert, you had to play
Speaker 2: Crimson Skies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I won Bowser's Hurry, and so we got
Speaker 6: to pick a classic retro.
Speaker 5: Game to play that we hadn't played before. So I played.
Speaker 6: No, I lost, and Mike gave his punishment homework Assignment,
Speaker 6: which for those who didn't see it, the punishment was
Speaker 6: the winner got to pick a game that the three
Speaker 6: losers had to play that they had not played before,
Speaker 6: and the idea was, it's a good game. It's not
Speaker 6: like a Blake Club type thing. And so Mike picked
Speaker 6: Crimson Skies for me for the original Xbox and it's
Speaker 6: very backwards compatible, and it is really good. It is
Speaker 6: something that like if I'm enjoying it a lot right now,
Speaker 6: but it is so in that almost like twisted metal
Speaker 6: rogue Squadron style of just like here's a big empty
Speaker 6: here's here's a big map. There's collectibles, there's power ups,
Speaker 6: there's heel spots, there's a bunch of enemies, there's boss fights.
Speaker 6: But like there's a lot of variety in it that
Speaker 6: I don't think I expected. There's you know, a lot
Speaker 6: of like, okay, escort the zeppelin. Go there's a gyrocopter,
Speaker 6: Go collect this fragile delivery and try.
Speaker 5: To bring it through a canyon.
Speaker 6: Lure this enemy ship into a canyon where we've got
Speaker 6: a bunch of anti air stuff going off. And you
Speaker 6: can also get out of your plane and take like
Speaker 6: you can go to a friendly zeppelin and take over
Speaker 6: the turret on top, you can switch to the turret
Speaker 6: on the bottom. Like there's there's robbing a train, there's
Speaker 6: like kind of trials of you know, flight and combat.
Speaker 5: And stuff like that. There's just a lot of a
Speaker 5: lot of variety that I.
Speaker 6: Don't think I would have expected in this, like Xbox
Speaker 6: era you know plane game. You know, I grew up
Speaker 6: on a combat on PlayStation, which are great games, but
Speaker 6: this has a lot more variety than that, I think.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, they're making an adventure game. Yeah yeah, not
Speaker 3: like but like adventurous game, not adventure the genre.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like it's like Sky Captain type.
Speaker 3: Of Indiana Jones.
Speaker 5: And yeah, that's one things I always liked about.
Speaker 4: You know, there's so many, you know, games where the
Speaker 4: setting or theme is sci fi fantasy, modern warfare, and
Speaker 4: this one has that very pulpy nineteen forties adventure film
Speaker 4: kind of thing, and you know, like the music does
Speaker 4: that so well too, just the way the radio chatter
Speaker 4: is all the late you know people, toxic catchers that
Speaker 4: specific feel very well. And also lots of turret sections.
Speaker 5: I thought Dan.
Speaker 4: Would like that.
Speaker 6: I love a good turret section, even like it's just
Speaker 6: got those dumb little missions that I'm sure we drive
Speaker 6: some people nuts, but I love where it's like, all right,
Speaker 6: follow this plane that's dropping weather balloons and you need
Speaker 6: to shoot all the ones that don't have a blue
Speaker 6: cross on them, and so it's like you have a
Speaker 6: time limit and it's like you have to kill nineteen
Speaker 6: of these things and you can't hit a single blue
Speaker 6: ones like shooting gallery stuff. But it all controls well.
Speaker 6: I'm surprised there's not like a cockpit view for the planes.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think I'm over halfway through it now
Speaker 6: and I really really enjoyed it. So good, good choice, Mike.
Speaker 4: Good glad for having fun with it. Now you can
Speaker 4: join me on my yelling crusade to get them to
Speaker 4: make a new one, because the game like this, you know,
Speaker 4: this keeps all right surprisingly open like you talked about,
Speaker 4: but one like a really big, continuous open world and
Speaker 4: with monographics, got that would be incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see you two have also banded together to
Speaker 2: also play Donkey Kong Country Returns HD.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I stand by it's one of the best platformers
Speaker 6: of all time.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean two D You know, maybe I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 5: I never I didn't play before.
Speaker 4: This is my first time going through it, and I
Speaker 4: am having a lot of fun with it, especially you know,
Speaker 4: in like original Donky gunt Country, you get to a
Speaker 4: mine cart level and you're like a little weird, like,
Speaker 4: oh god, it's gonna maybe be a little annoying. Mine
Speaker 4: cart levels here are really fun. I like the angry
Speaker 4: Bird style rocket barrel levels even more.
Speaker 6: Yeahs like flatty Bird where it's just a lot of
Speaker 6: like tapping.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, sorry, yeah exactly. The flappy bird style thing
Speaker 4: there is really good. Yeah, it's just kind of really
Speaker 4: all together. Saw it Sometime I'm I hate myself for this.
Speaker 4: I have this problem with.
Speaker 5: It's a big problem.
Speaker 4: But like, I have more fun if I don't care
Speaker 4: about things like getting the Kong lists a lot of times.
Speaker 5: But I also can't help I pass up on the
Speaker 5: puzzle pieces.
Speaker 6: I mean, I when it originally came out one hundred
Speaker 6: per the game got all the puzzle pieces and stuff.
Speaker 6: This one, I'm just doing Kong letters, but I can
Speaker 6: pass up the puzzle pieces.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So like again, it's because you know, you can
Speaker 4: get to a pretty good flow state here, right, especially
Speaker 4: with the rolling and I always love that Donkey Knng
Speaker 4: Country move where you can roll off a ledge roll
Speaker 4: in the coyote time.
Speaker 5: Right, So that's fantastic.
Speaker 4: But you know, so I kind of hate that I'm
Speaker 4: on a roll and then like I see a letter
Speaker 4: and I like stop and kind of like looking around.
Speaker 5: I only get the letter and I kind of want
Speaker 5: to just keep going.
Speaker 6: I think I know what you will say to this,
Speaker 6: but I think I'm going to say this. I don't
Speaker 6: know if I've ever thought this before. I think it's
Speaker 6: the best Donkey Kong game. I know you're gonna say
Speaker 6: ninty four, You're gonna say ninety four.
Speaker 5: I'm okay.
Speaker 4: Anything with Donkey Kong in the name.
Speaker 5: I think this is a Donkey Kong. I think even
Speaker 5: amongst the country games to two the two two is
Speaker 5: my second favorite.
Speaker 4: Sure, I don't think it's a ridiculous thing to say that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I could see this being a person's favorite
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah.
Speaker 6: I think it was also came out at a time
Speaker 6: where it's like now, it's an embarrassment of riches in
Speaker 6: terms of great two D platformers, like especially like the
Speaker 6: NDCE and stuff that's'm playing like Celeste. Again, there were
Speaker 6: so many but I remember when I reviewed this a
Speaker 6: Game Informer, was it twenty ten something like that. We're
Speaker 6: still only like a few years into that, Like XBLA
Speaker 6: renaissance of all these like oh n plus Explosion Man
Speaker 6: and like two D specifically two D platformers I think
Speaker 6: had just recently been kind of coming around, and so
Speaker 6: for me to see this like really good looking new
Speaker 6: Donkey Kong Country game was still like a novelty at
Speaker 6: the time, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, because for a while it was you know,
Speaker 4: it was almost like tabbooed to make a home console
Speaker 4: two D platformer games from one of these big companies,
Speaker 4: and Antito was doing it a bit with like new
Speaker 4: Super Mario Brothers. Even then a lot of that stuff
Speaker 4: was more for the portables, So yeah, we had a
Speaker 4: new Super Mario Brothers. We but yeah, something about Donkey
Speaker 4: Cutchry returns. It was like, no, we're just gonna make
Speaker 4: a lot of these, and in fact, for some franchises,
Speaker 4: this is maybe the better option. We tried Donkey Kong
Speaker 4: in three D and well whatever that was, that was
Speaker 4: something maybe the two D thing is better here, And
Speaker 4: for a while I resented it a bit because it
Speaker 4: kind of took a while for them to get a
Speaker 4: little bit adventurous with three D stuff. Again, like Kirby
Speaker 4: was stuck a two D forever. We haven't had a
Speaker 4: new three D Donkey Kong, we haven't had a solo
Speaker 4: three D Yoshi game. They just keep those series to
Speaker 4: two D. I think with like Warrio, right, we had
Speaker 4: like the fun GameCube three D Wyrio game, then.
Speaker 5: That series just went back to two D or micro games.
Speaker 4: But I am glad that they did eventually get over
Speaker 4: that kind of you know, being afraid to make two
Speaker 4: D games thing for a while there.
Speaker 6: We and especially this one, like coming out on the
Speaker 6: Switch makes sense to me because like as great as
Speaker 6: it was on the Wei, having to waggle to do
Speaker 6: the role and that's a very frequent thing you have
Speaker 6: to do suck. And then three DS was better because
Speaker 6: you don't have to worry about that. But it's also
Speaker 6: tied to the three DS. So it's like, this is
Speaker 6: one that I want on my switch. I wanted to
Speaker 6: be backwards compatible and my switch to I want to
Speaker 6: just be able to play this game without doing waggle bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's the work that I kind of want
Speaker 3: them to do with a lot of their games that
Speaker 3: are stuck on these sword consoles, is just get them
Speaker 3: set up for the long term on the switch and
Speaker 3: that'll be good. And yeah, seeing that for Donkey Kong
Speaker 3: is is fantastic. And they made a big point about, hey,
Speaker 3: now all the Donkey Kong Country games are on the switch.
Speaker 3: I you know, I think they're going to do that
Speaker 3: with a lot of franchises.
Speaker 6: I still haven't beat Donkey Kong Country three. That's the
Speaker 6: only one I e beat. It's I've tried it so many times.
Speaker 6: And some of the level design and a big dumb
Speaker 6: baby Kong. I hate that stupid Kong.
Speaker 4: I hate people.
Speaker 3: I don't like looking at it, look at that in
Speaker 3: Wow Wow.
Speaker 5: Dixie is great.
Speaker 4: Love Dixie. Fucking dum Baby.
Speaker 5: Fuck that guy. Big people hating Kongs.
Speaker 4: You see, like some people are really upset about the
Speaker 4: new Donkey Kong.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 3: It's awesome.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 6: It's been this since like the Super Nintendo, you know,
Speaker 6: like let's let's get Donkey Kong in there.
Speaker 4: It makes up a little bit. It's okay.
Speaker 3: Well, I like the Donkey Kong Country designs, but like
Speaker 3: Rares like talents have never been character design like kind
Speaker 3: of going back to a different design is fine. I
Speaker 3: love it.
Speaker 5: I love Rare's dumbass characters.
Speaker 4: Just everything just has big eyes, a lot of cash
Speaker 4: with eyes.
Speaker 5: Yea flower with boobs.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: Giant thing of poop, the giant thing of poop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's no way to transition to Dark Souls three,
Speaker 2: so Mikey tell me all about it.
Speaker 4: Actually, I've been picking up a lot of dung piles
Speaker 4: in that game. Yeah, I've been kind of working through
Speaker 4: the Dark Soul series. Started three up a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago. I was always looking forward to this one
Speaker 4: because I knew it was gonna be, you know, a
Speaker 4: little bit faster paced, a bit a bit more out
Speaker 4: and ring like and always I like the slower pace
Speaker 4: of Dark Souls one is fine, but I was excited
Speaker 4: to do something that was gonna feel more like Elden
Speaker 4: Ring doing my deck Bill. So I'm doing a lot
Speaker 4: more rolling and whatnot. But yeah, having a great time.
Speaker 4: Very very pretty game. A lot of really interesting looking areas,
Speaker 4: like the one place that basically looks like a winter
Speaker 4: Thomas Kincaide painting fun bosses. I will say that I
Speaker 4: like did the first DALC the other day. I think
Speaker 4: my streaming my chat tricked me to doing it earlier
Speaker 4: than I should have, and I did not enjoy that
Speaker 4: I was in like some snowy place inside of a painting.
Speaker 4: It suddenly kind of felt a bit like Dark Souls
Speaker 4: two again, where there's like all these areas where eight
Speaker 4: enemies are attacking me at once and there's nothing I
Speaker 4: can really do about that, so I'm just trying to
Speaker 4: run past them. Then they kill me anyways, and it's
Speaker 4: just kind of really annoying levels with bad platforming sections
Speaker 4: here or there, and I'm wandering around four hours before
Speaker 4: I even find a boss that I want to fight.
Speaker 4: Then I got to the boss and it was very difficult.
Speaker 4: Then surprised they had a phase two. Then I you know,
Speaker 4: had to try harder it beat the face two and
Speaker 4: that was very difficult. I was real proud of myself.
Speaker 4: Then the fucker out of Phase three, and then I
Speaker 4: was like, all right, well, I'm gonna go do something
Speaker 4: else for a while, come back to this part later.
Speaker 4: Then I'm not banging my head against this wall forever.
Speaker 4: So big. Not a super infant of that DLC, but
Speaker 4: Dark Soul's three in general, very good, might be my
Speaker 4: favorite of those games so far.
Speaker 2: Lovely, Lovely, Jeff Grubb, I have no idea what this
Speaker 2: is that you put on the doc here, this looks
Speaker 2: like an acid trip sound self a technodelic de.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an acid trip. Oh, so it's okay. So
Speaker 3: I was at my first E three. No, couldn't be
Speaker 3: in the firs. It was an early three. Early VR
Speaker 3: stuff is getting shut up now, I'm saying that this
Speaker 3: might have been a GDC, and it was like there's
Speaker 3: a weird person who had a VR headset say hey, come, come,
Speaker 3: like uh meditate with my VR our game. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: let's go see what this is about. And they put
Speaker 3: me in like the development kit one Oculus rift headset
Speaker 3: thing with the like really bad screen all that stuff.
Speaker 3: But I just like laid down on a pillow in
Speaker 3: the middle of GDC, and I there was the microphone
Speaker 3: could pick up your humming and you're supposed to go,
Speaker 3: and then the speakers of the VR headset feeds that
Speaker 3: back to you and then sometimes like messes around with
Speaker 3: that sound a little bit and you get in this loop.
Speaker 3: And then they just placed like win app visualizer stuff
Speaker 3: in front of you. So the way it works now
Speaker 3: is this was on Steam. They took it off Steam
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Actually, I think they shifted
Speaker 3: it over to be actually a medical app or something
Speaker 3: like that, or actually to use it in real therapy.
Speaker 3: But since I bought it, I still have it on steam.
Speaker 3: And the way it works now is you are laying
Speaker 3: in a field and you start to making like your
Speaker 3: you know, transcendental meditation sound whatever it is, and the
Speaker 3: leaves on the tree again to like sway, and like
Speaker 3: you can kind of see this little twirl of branches
Speaker 3: up at the top of the tree, and every time
Speaker 3: like you take a breath and do a new sound,
Speaker 3: it like shifts you up towards that little part of
Speaker 3: the branch until you begin to like enter into it.
Speaker 3: And then that's when like the universe opens up in
Speaker 3: front of you and basically turns into the win APT
Speaker 3: visualizer again. It is a very cool trick. It's a
Speaker 3: very neat thing to experience, to the point where it's
Speaker 3: like you just kind of get into this flow state
Speaker 3: and you kind of you do feel like the self
Speaker 3: begin to like fade away and you're just in this
Speaker 3: moment and then all of a sudden it's over and
Speaker 3: they they put you right back into the field underneath
Speaker 3: the tree, and I just take off the headset. I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm ready for my day. It's a very weird,
Speaker 3: neat thing that I'm super into, and I like, I
Speaker 3: always forget about it. And then I was just in
Speaker 3: my VR headset the other day. I was gonna play
Speaker 3: some stuff on the bean bag and I saw that
Speaker 3: in my VR thing on Steam and I just streamed
Speaker 3: it to that and it's like, oh, yeah, that thing.
Speaker 3: So I've only done it times in my life, but
Speaker 3: each time, I'm like, this is a really cool neat
Speaker 3: thing that I wish more people had known about.
Speaker 5: Sure you didn't just do d MT.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not sure. Okay, what's definitely possible.
Speaker 5: It's a drug. Things happened like what he described.
Speaker 6: All Right, I'm looking at images on the Oculus web
Speaker 6: page and yeah, it looks like a one visualizer.
Speaker 5: I would try this.
Speaker 4: You should.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if there's a way for anyone to try. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's very neat. I think you would like it.
Speaker 5: Should I have marijuana first?
Speaker 3: It helped me.
Speaker 5: Okay, the cops got disappointed. Your dare camp counselor would
Speaker 5: be dandy if you tell.
Speaker 3: Us, Mike, we're gonna have your brother sent to prison
Speaker 3: for stealing hacks yep, all right, the mini family.
Speaker 2: In front of us speak about getting into a flow state.
Speaker 2: Dan reichert, have you edited a flow state while playing
Speaker 2: Clone Hero?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: This has been interesting.
Speaker 6: I saw, I think, I said, Steve Saylor posted like
Speaker 6: an Instagram story and I saw them playing like on
Speaker 6: a modern TV and console with like these sharp looking
Speaker 6: guitars and like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 5: And I messaged him, was like what guitar is that?
Speaker 4: What are you playing?
Speaker 6: And he told me was the the PDP riff Master,
Speaker 6: And so I got one of those. I got the
Speaker 6: Xbox and PC one, and god damn, I I well,
Speaker 6: my first thought was like, okay, back in the day
Speaker 6: all my rock band and Guitar Hero stuff was on Xbox,
Speaker 6: So I'll get the Xbox one. I looked it up,
Speaker 6: and she'll be able to pull in all the old
Speaker 6: sound you know, the song packs and everything I got,
Speaker 6: And so I loaded that rock band for at first
Speaker 6: about the like Rivals bundle, and sure enough there's it's
Speaker 6: like all the rock band four tracks, which I didn't love,
Speaker 6: and I thought I had more tracks. Maybe I'm thinking
Speaker 6: of Guitar Hero or something, but it was just like ah,
Speaker 6: here's a Queen of the Stone Age pack.
Speaker 5: Here's a David Bowie pack.
Speaker 6: But I didn't I had like one hundred songs or something,
Speaker 6: and then shout out to NICKI telling me about Clone Hero,
Speaker 6: and Nikki also sent some links that were very helpful
Speaker 6: at making that work easily, and so I immediately there's
Speaker 6: you know, led Zeppelin, all the stuff that like you
Speaker 6: wouldn't normally find a guitar here or I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't know how legally all is or whatever, but there's
Speaker 6: stuff like guns and roses, like I don't know why
Speaker 6: they never put appetitpe for destruction in uh in rock
Speaker 6: band or anything. No way to know for sure to know,
Speaker 6: but yeah, it's like, wow, you can play Sweet Child
Speaker 6: of Mine and all this stuff on rock band. My
Speaker 6: brother in law's band had like Thank You, SID has
Speaker 6: had like eighty tracks on there, and it's like, what
Speaker 6: a Bat's awesome that I nailoaded Cody Roads theme song.
Speaker 6: I got Stone Cold theme song. They didn't have Batista.
Speaker 6: I got John Cena. It's just like, yeah, playing John
Speaker 6: Cena's theme on a guitar. Yeah, Colony ro seems awesome.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like the fancies layout. I've seen
Speaker 6: you can you can do your own backgrounds and stuff
Speaker 6: like that, but you just want to play the songs,
Speaker 6: play the songs, and it's just like, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 6: the search their software and stuff out there where you
Speaker 6: can find a whole lot of songs and stuff that download.
Speaker 6: And yeah it works for and also that guitar is awesome.
Speaker 6: The guitar is great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my question. Do you think it'd be worth
Speaker 3: the price?
Speaker 2: How much is it?
Speaker 6: And I think it's like one hundred. Do you want
Speaker 6: to hear something? I mean, if you want to play
Speaker 6: it is really solid.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 6: I like it better than the old It's wireless, got
Speaker 6: a dongle, and the cool thing is it has this
Speaker 6: like flip down thing where like the whole like kind
Speaker 6: of fret bar or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 6: I'm not a musician, Uh, flips down and so you
Speaker 6: just fit it back into the box or I've got
Speaker 6: a thing here. Yeah, it's it's nice, Like it's a
Speaker 6: really solid guitar.
Speaker 3: I've done this same exec setup but for DDR with
Speaker 3: step Mania, which is an app you can download that's
Speaker 3: basically just clone Hero for DDR. I basically have that
Speaker 3: set up on this computer all the time. That's that's
Speaker 3: the way to do it these days. Yeah, because the
Speaker 3: community sport is off the chart for all these things.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so really really enjoyed that. So it's great
Speaker 5: to have that grub.
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple people streaming that washing Machine looking
Speaker 2: rhythm game.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah one. I just played that at Yeah
Speaker 3: well and games done quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I need to figure out a way we
Speaker 2: need to get sh that washing Machine setup at home,
Speaker 2: because you would be I'd love to, like you have
Speaker 2: the camera set in front of the or behind the
Speaker 2: screen so you're like you're staring at the people as
Speaker 2: you're doing the rhythm game. It'd be great, it'd be
Speaker 2: that'd be my whole job was really fun.
Speaker 3: It was great. I was like really getting into it,
Speaker 3: dancing like there again, I have some video, Chris, so
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. A J got some video of us, so
Speaker 3: I'll see if I can share that.
Speaker 4: Anymore.
Speaker 2: No, that's right, myma is what the washing Machine game
Speaker 2: is called apparently, Okay, okay, yeah, it'd be a nice
Speaker 2: top down view for a stream, just like it is
Speaker 2: a top down isometric game that I've been playing called
Speaker 2: super Vive. I saw someone chatting about this on the
Speaker 2: twitch chat last week while I was talking about Marvel Rivals.
Speaker 2: Supervive is a isometric squad based battle royale. If you
Speaker 2: look at it just from screenshots or the trailer, it'll
Speaker 2: remind you of like a DoD To two, perhaps a
Speaker 2: League of Legends. And it's out in early access right now,
Speaker 2: and I really wish I liked it more because I
Speaker 2: do have a little bit of like the League bug
Speaker 2: or the League virus still within me that I've been
Speaker 2: keeping at bay. It's just I don't know if I
Speaker 2: like controlling an isometric character through wasdy. I'd rather do
Speaker 2: just mouse to flick them around and trigger off abilities.
Speaker 2: It's okay. I think the problem is because it's an
Speaker 2: early access and I've been spoiled by games like Marvel Rivals.
Speaker 2: There's only there's a very small character pool from the jump,
Speaker 2: and they do the thing where you take turns with
Speaker 2: your teammates to walk off and select characters. So I
Speaker 2: got stuck with a character that I wasn't super familiar with.
Speaker 2: Like the tutorial didn't do a good job at show
Speaker 2: all the characters that you can mess around with at
Speaker 2: early access and it is it is bedlam because you
Speaker 2: launch onto a map just like you would in Fortnite
Speaker 2: or pubg and then from there you are kind of
Speaker 2: learning the lay of the land and looking for other teams.
Speaker 2: The thing is much like a Fortnite. If you get
Speaker 2: eliminated or you get killed, your party has the ability
Speaker 2: to revive you, and it seems like it is near
Speaker 2: unlimited revives and you don't need to go to a
Speaker 2: specific location like you would for like a revived van
Speaker 2: in Fortnite. The part that I am not meshing well
Speaker 2: with is it is a little too chaotic for me,
Speaker 2: and on top of the controls and just everything kills you.
Speaker 2: We wound up on a train and there wasn't an
Speaker 2: easy way to communicate with my party members of where
Speaker 2: we were going or what the danger was. And then
Speaker 2: the train killed me, not because it ran me over,
Speaker 2: but it had a bunch of weird turrets that I
Speaker 2: didn't realize were enemies or like a stage hazard. The
Speaker 2: neat thing though, is there is a glider in the
Speaker 2: game that is a big component of the game because
Speaker 2: there's some light platforming and if you shoot someone while
Speaker 2: they are gliding, they instantly drop, So I did get
Speaker 2: a couple of fun kills that way because they just
Speaker 2: fell to their doom. But overall I wasn't really clicking
Speaker 2: well with super Vive. But a game with a gigantic
Speaker 2: gun or a gigantic sword in it, that I do
Speaker 2: want to check out. Dan you taken a look at
Speaker 2: Blade Kimera.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is the one I wanted to get.
Speaker 3: I'm getting it right now.
Speaker 5: It has guns and swords.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It is a Metroidvania, which, boy, I've just been lousy
Speaker 6: with metroidvanias lately, between the dominant collection and this, and.
Speaker 3: It's an embarrassment of riches out there right now.
Speaker 6: It is, and it's one of my favorite genres I
Speaker 6: never get tired of. So whenever I hear there's a
Speaker 6: good one, I jump in and uh, probably a couple
Speaker 6: hours into this one. Very good so far, so square
Speaker 6: and circle. You can map to whatever weapons, so guns, swords,
Speaker 6: things like that. So like right now I've got like
Speaker 6: an assault rifle thing and I just have like the
Speaker 6: sword on x or sorry, I'm playing on Xbox, so
Speaker 6: X is my sword, b is my guns? And then
Speaker 6: why is this like spirit sword? It's almost like the
Speaker 6: skyword sword like it turns it. Sometimes it's the ladies,
Speaker 6: sometimes it's the sword. It talks to you all that stuff,
Speaker 6: and it's called me Lux.
Speaker 5: And so the sword is going.
Speaker 6: So there's like two different bars. There's your health and
Speaker 6: then there's your Lux bar, which is like your spirit
Speaker 6: sword thing. And if you get kills with your standard weapons,
Speaker 6: your guns and swords, you recharge your lux energy, which
Speaker 6: is like your MP. If you get kills with your
Speaker 6: lux abilities and sword and all that stuff, you get health.
Speaker 6: So it's kind of like a miniature version of that
Speaker 6: Doom Eternal kind of like health and Ammo economy thing,
Speaker 6: and it's cool like they like when you get skill
Speaker 6: points and things there are they usual like Okay, here's
Speaker 6: the kind of like dashed down jump, here's the slide,
Speaker 6: or you can do things where you're unlocking you know,
Speaker 6: things like oh your lexibility can now you set this
Speaker 6: thing like almost like a turret and sprays a bunch
Speaker 6: of bullets in a certain way so you can turn
Speaker 6: those on and off. So it's got kind of a
Speaker 6: good skill tree situation going on there, but great boss fights.
Speaker 6: It's a lot of the pain in the ass parts
Speaker 6: of metroidvanias, like the backtracking and things like that are
Speaker 6: really nullified here by you can just warp to most places.
Speaker 6: Like one of the first things I unlocked was the
Speaker 6: ability to just like look at a place on the
Speaker 6: map and just say, warp there. It doesn't have to
Speaker 6: be a warp room, doesn't have to be anything like that.
Speaker 6: There are certain areas where you can't do that, but
Speaker 6: for the most part, you can just kind of warp around,
Speaker 6: so it's not that constant like, oh, I got to
Speaker 6: get back to the saving room where I'm going to die.
Speaker 6: You can usually just warp back there and safe. But yeah,
Speaker 6: great boss fights, some weird enemies that I've enjoyed. It's
Speaker 6: it's really solid. Only a couple hours in, but I
Speaker 6: am going to keep going with it.
Speaker 4: But sexual twenty twenty five game, which yeah, it has
Speaker 4: been a lot of January releases here, which has been
Speaker 4: nice in a way because it has been letting me
Speaker 4: kind of play some odor things there. But yeah, we'd
Speaker 4: like to check out a twenty twenty five metro Vanya,
Speaker 4: especially before the deluge of big releases starts the next month.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, god, this just does look like
Speaker 3: Game Boy Advanced Castle Vanya is where they're like, here,
Speaker 3: we have an idea for an enemy, how can we
Speaker 3: do it in two D? Here's a big cat I
Speaker 3: don't know, just have its head beyond this plane and
Speaker 3: the rest of its body be in the background. And
Speaker 3: I love that shit. I love the way that stuff looks.
Speaker 2: I think you'd like it.
Speaker 6: And there's like some little puzzle elements that like, I
Speaker 6: haven't really seen as much in Metroid Veniens, where it's
Speaker 6: like there's.
Speaker 5: A UV light will kill your spirit sword, So you
Speaker 5: have to.
Speaker 6: Find ways to like, Okay, I'm gonna stick the sword,
Speaker 6: because you can stick the sword and walls in the
Speaker 6: ground and stuff like that. So if you throw in
Speaker 6: the ground, it creates like a bubble shield around you
Speaker 6: that'll guard you against projectiles. If you throw it against
Speaker 6: a wall, like let's say you're jumping up towards a wall.
Speaker 6: If you hold why, it'll throw the sword in and
Speaker 6: you'll like get to use it as a platform. So
Speaker 6: the sword is pretty versatile. Like let's say you're about
Speaker 6: to go into this UV thing. Oh shit, I can't
Speaker 6: walk through it. It can cut my sword. You can
Speaker 6: stick the sword in the wall or the ground then
Speaker 6: you as your person go through the thing and tell
Speaker 6: the direct line of you to the sword doesn't go
Speaker 6: through in the UV, and then you can kind of
Speaker 6: like gott to war axe it back to your hands.
Speaker 6: So just some fun stuff like that. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 6: a pretty unique one.
Speaker 3: It sounds big. I think I must have played this
Speaker 3: in like a steam neex fest last year or something
Speaker 3: like that, because it looks familiar and sounds familiar. I
Speaker 3: bet that's what happens. So yeah, I'm I'm ready to
Speaker 3: play this. I think I heard or saw Patrick Kleppik
Speaker 3: talking about it as well. Uh and so like this
Speaker 3: morning' like oh yeah, I should ad that to the list,
Speaker 3: and then forgot. So I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 3: I have now added to my account. I'm gonna download
Speaker 3: on Downloat on the steam Deck tonight.
Speaker 5: It's fantastic. I've only played it on the steam Deck.
Speaker 2: It's greatly more games should have spirit swords. Spirit swords, yeah,
Speaker 2: like a gigantic one following me at all times that
Speaker 2: I'd feel safe.
Speaker 5: What about my soul caliber like swords that have like
Speaker 5: goopy eyeballs and stuff. Yes, I like that.
Speaker 3: I mean if if you have the souls of human
Speaker 3: beings in there. That's that's good. I can handle that.
Speaker 2: Will I get corrupted? Or am I already corrupted?
Speaker 3: I think the fact that you want you want one
Speaker 3: of these swords means you're already corrupt.
Speaker 5: But so Jan is sigfreed right now. I do want
Speaker 5: to see what Nightmare Jan looks like. Oh guys, we
Speaker 5: aren't ready for that jungle juice.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, oh boy, to give me a
Speaker 2: couple of months, I'll show you all Nightmare Jen.
Speaker 3: Yeah go back. Yeah, we'lcome back to working at the
Speaker 3: coffee shop. And that was Nightmare Jan glowing us.
Speaker 4: Let's give me one of the people you know, pushing
Speaker 4: the kids aside to get a box of Polkemon cards
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 2: See, I'm reformed. I could have just jumped the line
Speaker 2: and stolen those Pokemon cards or jump some of those nerds.
Speaker 6: Let's make a Scared Street a miniseries with Jan talk
Speaker 6: like performing Pokemon nerds.
Speaker 2: I'll do it. I'll do it because they finally need it.
Speaker 2: Go outside, stop trying to make money selling cards, and
Speaker 2: go get a blue collar job. Goddamn it.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, I'm watching.
Speaker 2: All right, friends, We're gonna take a quick bricky break
Speaker 2: because that about does it for games. I like how
Speaker 2: quiet it is right now. It's about to get so
Speaker 2: fucking loud with video games soon. Yeah, February is right
Speaker 2: around the corner, boys. Uh, and the news is right
Speaker 2: around the corner as well, and we'll hear about it
Speaker 2: right after this break a break, Jeff Grubb, I actually
Speaker 2: have the first news story today. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 2: Due to social obligations, I helped chaperone a high school dance. Okay,
Speaker 2: and yes, no, the DJ was taking requests.
Speaker 3: Oh and I ask Googly Moogly, that thing is juicy.
Speaker 2: I asked him, Hey, I think it'd be hilarious if
Speaker 2: you put on the macarena. Oh yeah, And then he said, no,
Speaker 2: I am not going to play the makarena.
Speaker 4: What a funny tuddy exactly, like.
Speaker 3: God, love the power that they wheeled over us.
Speaker 4: Yes they do.
Speaker 5: They love it is that is their throat, right, that
Speaker 5: is their court, and they love to tell us no. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like I think we were at some bar in l A.
Speaker 3: And I think I went up to the DJ and
Speaker 3: requested a song, and I got the vibe that I
Speaker 3: had violated him by requesting a song.
Speaker 5: So I don't think I trust DJs.
Speaker 3: I don't. Yeah, I think I'm I'm coming to your
Speaker 3: side on.
Speaker 6: This, and in general, if somebody says they're a DJ,
Speaker 6: I'm instantly like, all right, that's right, putting yourself down here,
Speaker 6: and you gotta climb out of a hole there.
Speaker 4: You know, I want to be careful because I you know, gosh,
Speaker 4: I used to go out so much. I like, get
Speaker 4: friends of a couple of DJs, and they happen to
Speaker 4: be listening.
Speaker 3: Listening to you.
Speaker 4: They're better than jugglers, but they're but not much DJ
Speaker 4: asked tits just perfect. No, that's very different kind of
Speaker 4: DJ we're talking about. Yeah, j is art, Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: uh yeah. Anyway, I was very offended, and then I
Speaker 4: high school dances are terrible, even witnessing them as an adult.
Speaker 4: I guess I should I guess I shouldn't ask, But
Speaker 4: are just so curious how you ended up chaperone high
Speaker 4: school dance social obligations.
Speaker 2: Mikey Uh, all right, that's the odd life I live anyway,
Speaker 2: Jeff grab the actual news.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my first news story is, uh, my kids
Speaker 3: now say the word clipbard instead of clipboard. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: they they love it. Actually, they love saying clipbird. They're
Speaker 3: out there all the time. They got a little favorite,
Speaker 3: big red dog, Yes, Clipberd, the big red dog. They
Speaker 3: love many things, tiny little things. They have a mini
Speaker 3: locker now for their toys, and they have many school
Speaker 3: supplies and they take all their kids their toys to
Speaker 3: school and they use all the many objects and stuff
Speaker 3: and one of them is a mini clipboard. And I
Speaker 3: mentioned my friend calls that a clipboard and they're like, well.
Speaker 2: Now we do too, and so wonder all of it?
Speaker 5: What about mini mouse?
Speaker 3: No, they've never heard of her. That clip show someone
Speaker 3: put together of the voicemail dump truck came out and
Speaker 3: I think that was one of the conversations they slept.
Speaker 2: So where that's going from.
Speaker 3: Yes, I said someone should make a clip show. And
Speaker 3: then someone just edited a clip show and it's out there.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good show.
Speaker 2: To you someone that did a good job.
Speaker 3: It's ct lens with a Z at the end on YouTube.
Speaker 3: So yeah, shout out to them, all right, news I Hey,
Speaker 3: the switch to was announced. You know, we'll go over
Speaker 3: the basics again. Real Quick showed off the form Factor
Speaker 3: and new Mario Kart. Mario Kart had twenty four places
Speaker 3: at its starting grid, so people are thinking maybe there
Speaker 3: could be twenty four racers instead of the twelve that
Speaker 3: were Mario Kart eight. The system itself is bigger, The
Speaker 3: screen is bigger, it has a smaller bezel, It is
Speaker 3: backward compatible. There are some exceptions they noted, but they
Speaker 3: did not say what kind of exceptions. People are speculating
Speaker 3: that it's because of the larger form factor. The joy
Speaker 3: Con won't work with stuff like Labo so things long
Speaker 3: that sort of problem, and not with like oh there's
Speaker 3: a software issue in some games just won't run. Although
Speaker 3: we don't know for sure yet, there was no price
Speaker 3: or release date. A bigger reveal is happening on April second.
Speaker 3: I think they called it a Nintendo direct a dedicated
Speaker 3: to those switch to at that point. More leaks have
Speaker 3: come out since then, and one seems to confirm that
Speaker 3: the switch to will have halt effect joy Con analog
Speaker 3: sensors inside them, basically the thing the Dreamcast had that
Speaker 3: solved drift twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, Jesus,
Speaker 3: and now Nintendo is going to be doing that as
Speaker 3: well so that they can avoid drift. Because they never
Speaker 3: really solved drift with the Switch one. It was a
Speaker 3: problem up to the end.
Speaker 5: Can you do a layperson's explanation of hal effect? Is
Speaker 5: it's something I hear a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, basically, it just uses a magnetic
Speaker 3: field to tell where another magnet inside that field is,
Speaker 3: and it just it's one to one every time. It's
Speaker 3: more complicated than that, but that's the layman's explanation. It
Speaker 3: uses magnets.
Speaker 2: We'll never know. Another explanation of Hall effect is when
Speaker 2: you just keep a toothpick in your mouth and you
Speaker 2: throw it dramatically for cool effect, to be the bad.
Speaker 5: Guy and you get up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if you were going to go with
Speaker 3: Scott Hall or Hall of Oates, but okay, similar to
Speaker 3: I always go to Scott Hall Skall Hall. The Switch
Speaker 3: To trailer has seventeen million views already, which it reached
Speaker 3: faster than the PS five reveal video. If you want
Speaker 3: to take anything from that. I think it has fewer
Speaker 3: views than the Switch one trailer did at this point,
Speaker 3: so who the hell knows views are free? It's not
Speaker 3: like you can tell much by that. And now Nacon
Speaker 3: a third party publisher. I think they might have published
Speaker 3: that RoboCop game last year or the year before that.
Speaker 3: As told investors, did expect switch To to launch between
Speaker 3: April and September. Again, we do not have a release
Speaker 3: date yet. So it's been about a little bit less
Speaker 3: than a week for us since we saw this switch
Speaker 3: to stuff. We've talked about it a lot and a
Speaker 3: lot of different venues. What are your guys thoughts on
Speaker 3: the switch to at this point?
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I think people are getting all up in
Speaker 2: arms about the lack of a fun gimmick. I think
Speaker 2: we will have.
Speaker 3: We will have whatever happened to fun Nintendo guys.
Speaker 5: Oh my, I am I am actually starting to get
Speaker 5: a little tilted from because.
Speaker 4: It's a crazy thing. It's a crazy thing to say,
Speaker 4: like right, I mean, of course it was going to
Speaker 4: just be the switch to, and they already are putting
Speaker 4: in probably more weird, little gimmicky things. I thought, I
Speaker 4: don't know what people wanted, but also like what was
Speaker 4: the real innovation with you know, yeah, the switch the
Speaker 4: home console of the Porpo thing. Things that really mattered
Speaker 4: were like innovations and software like Breath of the Wild
Speaker 4: doing what you know, crazy things you can still innovate
Speaker 4: on that level. Yeah, gameplay, and that matters so much
Speaker 4: more that we added a second screen to the thing again, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, would it be an innovation. It's just
Speaker 4: I'm doing an old.
Speaker 5: Thing before that you liked.
Speaker 6: I I agree with the you know, Alex Perry, I
Speaker 6: saw him post something like prior to the Switch, the
Speaker 6: hardware gimmicks that Nintendo put into their systems were like
Speaker 6: an obstacle. It's something that you just had to deal
Speaker 6: with to play the great games, you know, the game pad,
Speaker 6: the we waggle, all that stuff. It's like, it's not
Speaker 6: what made them great. It was just like all right,
Speaker 6: Like I saw my Donkey con Country Returns. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: great fucking game. I just had to deal with the
Speaker 6: waggle to do it. It's not like the waggle made
Speaker 6: that a great game. So like, I don't give a shit, Like, look,
Speaker 6: the Switch is one of the best consoles of all time,
Speaker 6: and the gimmick is a thing that actually matters and works,
Speaker 6: and like, yeah, just make the next one like that.
Speaker 3: It's also just like a failure and pattern recognition that
Speaker 3: because this was never going to be the system that
Speaker 3: was going to be weird again, because Nintendo does one
Speaker 3: thing over and over again. They released the NES, then
Speaker 3: there's this Super Nintendo. They they go, you know, had
Speaker 3: the game Boy, then they had the game Boy.
Speaker 5: Advance sequel systems when it hit, there's a sequel.
Speaker 3: They always do a sequel system. To their heads, there
Speaker 3: was the Wei, there was the we, U was the ES,
Speaker 3: there was the three DSIX, there's sixty four d D
Speaker 3: like the children won't stop talking about. Yeah, the Big
Speaker 3: Natural is the system.
Speaker 4: Uh and uh Tetrosphere with big Cat.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite mod. I don't know that the first Tetrosphere,
Speaker 3: Big Naturals mod Jesus.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was always going to be the switch to
Speaker 3: fallow up. It was always going to be the game
Speaker 3: Boy advance to the game Boy. So uh, people like
Speaker 3: taking this and extrapolating as creative Nintendo is dead are
Speaker 3: weird and wrong and odd and I don't know what's
Speaker 3: wrong with them, Like, like, let's wait a little bit
Speaker 3: before we declare that to be the situation.
Speaker 2: I mean, a couple of seconds of that reveal trailer
Speaker 2: showed the new joy Cons being used as mice, not
Speaker 2: directly uses mice. Well, like alluded to Yes, suggestion.
Speaker 3: Just just wait, y'all.
Speaker 2: We we got a trailer that barely showed anything. Just
Speaker 2: wait till they actually show stuff off. I'm still a
Speaker 2: proponent that those joy cons will be used in a
Speaker 2: dumb optional way to control your Mario karts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna got You're gonna be annoyed
Speaker 3: by something about this system without a doubt for sure.
Speaker 3: And then uh, and then they'll have fun little side
Speaker 3: gimmicks similar to street Pass that we don't know about yet.
Speaker 3: That stuff will still happen to I'm.
Speaker 2: Assuming that the joy cons, since they are magnetic now,
Speaker 2: they will only latch onto the like switch itself.
Speaker 3: Right, what do you mean, like I suppose to go?
Speaker 6: I mean, if they want to do like a lavo
Speaker 6: gimmick type thing, they could conceivably do weird accessories and
Speaker 6: stuff like that, the wee golf clubs.
Speaker 5: And stuff like that. You just had to have the
Speaker 5: base things also have the other end of that magnet.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of have that. I think we I
Speaker 4: forget we saw it's gonna have another one of those
Speaker 4: like mid connector shells that you can use as a controller.
Speaker 2: I just want to be able to slap on weird
Speaker 2: stuff magnetically to my switch to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there will be a lot of
Speaker 3: that for sure, some of the other like you know,
Speaker 3: we're in the puddle news area where people are only
Speaker 3: fixate on the stuff that really scares them. And right now,
Speaker 3: one of the main things for that is the sort
Speaker 3: of tongue that sticks out of where the joy con
Speaker 3: connects to that little connector slot, the extending slot that
Speaker 3: is inside that little the hole where the joy Con
Speaker 3: goes into. People are looking at that and saying, that's
Speaker 3: going to break, and that is a point of failure
Speaker 3: and we should all be freaking out. Do you guys?
Speaker 3: Do you guys get that sense when you first looked
Speaker 3: at that thing.
Speaker 5: It would suck if it broke. H let's you know,
Speaker 5: see if it breaks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I'm at. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I feel like every time I disconnected the when you
Speaker 6: would attach the little like side gimmicks of the joy
Speaker 6: con to play like you know, Snipper Clips or Mario Party,
Speaker 6: you know, it always feels weird pressing that little button,
Speaker 6: like like there's like a crass like I don't like
Speaker 6: that sound at all, but like it's never actually broke anything, yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I my assumption here is they've tested this
Speaker 3: and they it probably will not break. It's not gonna
Speaker 3: be that thing.
Speaker 4: I understand people being like skeptical and work because we
Speaker 4: did have the joy kon drift issue, right yeah, Hey,
Speaker 4: an issue like shows up that would suck and we
Speaker 4: should do something about that. But I'm not like, you know,
Speaker 4: watching a video and trying to pinpoint what I think
Speaker 4: the next red ring of death is going to be, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean Nintendo knows that part of their
Speaker 2: core audience will be children that maybe may rough house
Speaker 2: with their switch.
Speaker 3: So yes, yeah, that's why I fad too. It's an
Speaker 3: outward facing little thing like that. It will be a
Speaker 3: great focus for them, being like what about kids? They
Speaker 3: will do that will if there is a point of failure,
Speaker 3: it will be something like drift inside the system, overlooked,
Speaker 3: cheap component, takes time to fail. It'll be something along
Speaker 3: those lines.
Speaker 2: It'll be the kickstand.
Speaker 3: It'll be the back of our kickstand, the back of
Speaker 3: our stand.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Nacon between April and September, I've like thought
Speaker 3: about this a little bit more because I'm like, they'll
Speaker 3: just they'll skip summer if it's not coming the summer,
Speaker 3: so it's either April, May or in the fall. I
Speaker 3: guess why wouldn't they release it in summer, Like, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to think of the reason I felt that way,
Speaker 3: and it was just a gut feeling of it's a
Speaker 3: bad time to launch a console. It doesn't make a
Speaker 3: ton of sense. But why did I feel that way?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Summer vacation people aren't home.
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, I think so, But I think before the
Speaker 3: switch doesn't matter, Maybe the switch two doesn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's maybe it's even the kind of system where like
Speaker 3: a family buys it on vacation and takes it to
Speaker 3: their you know, the their bungalow, their Airbnb, their room
Speaker 3: things out that there. Yeah, the rooftop parties that they're attending.
Speaker 3: So yeah, April to September does still sound plausible. I
Speaker 3: think I would probably lean closer to September though, if
Speaker 3: it doesn't come out like in May. But it's not May,
Speaker 3: it's going to be later in the summer some.
Speaker 5: May June hopes personally, but you know, I hope anywhere
Speaker 5: in that window.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like September just because that next direct
Speaker 2: where they're going to talk about the switch more will
Speaker 2: be in April, and you want to give people enough
Speaker 2: time to get their pre orders in and everything. You
Speaker 2: think June would be too short of a turnaround time
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm ex again. I think I think May is possible.
Speaker 3: Like I honestly like if I had, like, you know,
Speaker 3: do the chart it out and be like the bell curve.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, the fat part of the bell
Speaker 3: curve is May. That's like the most likely it's going
Speaker 3: to be May time. It's going to be May. And
Speaker 3: then June I think is is quite a bit less likely,
Speaker 3: but still likely. And then I think, you know, July,
Speaker 3: I just I just can't see it launching in July.
Speaker 3: I guess that's the thing. Late August September, that all
Speaker 3: makes sense, all right. Sony has canceled two more live
Speaker 3: service games, reportedly including a God of War live service
Speaker 3: game that was being made at Blue Point. Well's some
Speaker 3: details here. The other game was at Bend Studio. We
Speaker 3: don't know what Bend was making. This was part of
Speaker 3: a reassessment. That is, there was multiple reasons why they
Speaker 3: were doing these reviews. Some of it is that's just
Speaker 3: the normal course of business. They also were doing these
Speaker 3: reviews because there are new co CEOs and they want
Speaker 3: to get their hands on everything, make sure they understand everything.
Speaker 3: But let's be real, also, Concord happened, and there's still
Speaker 3: sense of what didn't we see and why didn't we
Speaker 3: see it? That they are going to go back and
Speaker 3: try to apply to every single one of these games
Speaker 3: that they're making, and you know, all those factors weighed
Speaker 3: on these things. And this process started in December, and
Speaker 3: so they were like going through December, kind of leaked
Speaker 3: a little bit into January, and then everyone found out
Speaker 3: that these games are getting shut down and it's a
Speaker 3: relatively recent thing. So these studios are not necessarily like
Speaker 3: being able to figure out what they're going to do next.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they have some ideas. Again, the process started
Speaker 3: in December, so at that time, if they're like looking
Speaker 3: around reading the writing on the wall at Bend and
Speaker 3: at Blue Point, they probably did start thinking, what are
Speaker 3: some other projects we could be working on? But yeah,
Speaker 3: this is definitely the continued fallout from what happened with Concord,
Speaker 3: and not too surprised that they don't want to go
Speaker 3: through with these things. But boy, that is a lot
Speaker 3: of time and effort and money thrown down the drain
Speaker 3: for games that will never come out, and a lot
Speaker 3: of human hours spent working on these games that will
Speaker 3: just be wasted. Greb.
Speaker 2: I think there's also a third game that has been canceled,
Speaker 2: the Horizon MMO or that's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the latest roomor I can't confirm that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, that's that's definitely just popped
Speaker 3: off today And apparently.
Speaker 4: That was like, that's different from the Gorilla made her
Speaker 4: online Horizon Survival games somehow.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, nc Soft Horizon m m O RPG. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: that wouldn't surprise me. You definitely don't need that. And
Speaker 3: whatever Gorilla is working on that is a crazy thing
Speaker 3: that they were that they were doing over there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, the live service stuff has fully fallen out
Speaker 3: over at Sony. They're not in love with that concept anymore.
Speaker 3: What I did here is if these studios were to
Speaker 3: try to pitch new games, they definitely would not get
Speaker 3: the green light for live service games. If that's what
Speaker 3: they tried to pitch, I don't think they would want
Speaker 3: to pay. That's so this time right.
Speaker 4: That's so frustrated because, like I mean, two years ago,
Speaker 4: they were so loud, but that was the strategy, that
Speaker 4: was it, That was the gravy train, and to pivot
Speaker 4: so hard from that is got to be incredible whiplash
Speaker 4: for these studios. It's still just so shocking that, in
Speaker 4: this desperate pursuit of line going up, you just hit
Speaker 4: your wagons whatever the trend is right now without any
Speaker 4: thought of, well, trends are trends that they're called that
Speaker 4: for a reason. They don't last forever. How long is
Speaker 4: it gonna take us to make these games? How confident
Speaker 4: are we in all of this to just take ideas
Speaker 4: that only sound good in a boardroom meeting pitch like
Speaker 4: God of War MMO or whatever it was, right, and
Speaker 4: he's like, well, okay, there we go.
Speaker 5: There's an ip and a buzzword. We got it right there.
Speaker 4: Especially when a studio like Blue Point that was specifically
Speaker 4: so good at doing the thing that they were doing
Speaker 4: these amazing remakes, you know, oh, does a studio have
Speaker 4: to do that same thing forever and ever? Yeah, hey,
Speaker 4: maybe not, Maybe they could try something new original live service.
Speaker 4: That was the pivot for them again in this time
Speaker 4: and age. Yeah, where the game takes five, six, seven
Speaker 4: years to make and you cancel that all down the drain.
Speaker 4: And the problem with the Polication five already is that
Speaker 4: there just aren't that many PlayStation exclusives compared to the
Speaker 4: PS four and especially compared to the PS three. Now,
Speaker 4: oh that time is wasted, and you know we've already
Speaker 4: had that happen with things like factions that Naughty Dog got.
Speaker 4: Even Ben Ben would have been better off baking freaking
Speaker 4: day Shan the two instead of this. It's God, It's
Speaker 4: just it's frustrating for me. I can't imagine how frustrating
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, like this, especially Blue Point, who has
Speaker 2: done like really great work helping remaster stuff to like
Speaker 2: make them make an original or I guess it's something
Speaker 2: based off of God of War, which they've worked on,
Speaker 2: but like to ham fits them into like all right,
Speaker 2: kind of make an original game that has to make
Speaker 2: us boku bucks. It seems like a waste of that
Speaker 2: studios talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and its like I might just mentioned it the frustration,
Speaker 3: I mean, because it's the way this stuff works is
Speaker 3: you know, people's one chat's like how much blame does
Speaker 3: Jim Ryan get and the way it works is like
Speaker 3: Jim Ryan's not sitting around being like, here are my
Speaker 3: creative ideas for this studio and what they're gonna make.
Speaker 3: I have the right ideas, and I'm going to go
Speaker 3: tell that studio what to do. I want a God
Speaker 3: of War online live service game and you're gonna make it.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't work that way. Like they hold the
Speaker 3: money bags, they hold the purse strings, and these studios
Speaker 3: get an idea of what the leadership is looking for.
Speaker 3: And for years, the leadership was looking for a pitch
Speaker 3: that would have said God of War and live service.
Speaker 3: Can you get those two things in there? And if
Speaker 3: you do, you have a better chance of getting the
Speaker 3: green light. You have a better chance of getting a
Speaker 3: lot of funding, so you can higher up and you know,
Speaker 3: pay the people that you are already paying, pay them more,
Speaker 3: give them some security long So this is what they
Speaker 3: want to hear. This is what we're gonna pitch them.
Speaker 3: Can we like feel good about this this pitch? It
Speaker 3: kind of like it's reverse engineered in that way, and
Speaker 3: they they take that to them, they get the green light,
Speaker 3: they think it's all good, and then one game goes
Speaker 3: bad and suddenly all that stuff gets thrown out through
Speaker 3: no like no fault of your own. The game you
Speaker 3: were working on probably was pretty decent, but it is
Speaker 3: it decent enough to overcome the headwinds against live service
Speaker 3: games that are trying to interermarket that's oversaturated. Probably not.
Speaker 3: And so some new calculus comes out and all of
Speaker 3: the math that made it make sense before it doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense now. And what are you left with going
Speaker 3: back to ground? And it is Sony going to want
Speaker 3: to hear like, here's another remake from Bluepoint. It's like, well,
Speaker 3: we were trying to grow you. We were trying to
Speaker 3: like make sure your next game made even more money
Speaker 3: than the last game did, and we're kind of going
Speaker 3: in ad opposite direction. We're like, now, let's remake of
Speaker 3: this game and this like maybe slightly lesser known game,
Speaker 3: and this slightly lesser known game. After that, it's like, no,
Speaker 3: we want to start building up with something new going forward.
Speaker 3: And so it's like, who's fault is all this? I mean,
Speaker 3: clearly the leadership. It's it's mismanagement. It is it is
Speaker 3: the mismanagement we've been talking about in this industry for
Speaker 3: a long time. But even they can't get a grasp
Speaker 3: on how to handle that, to fix the problem, because
Speaker 3: it just sort of happens naturally when you give these
Speaker 3: these leaders and these executives at these companies a certain
Speaker 3: set of environmental realities. Of these are the kinds of
Speaker 3: games to make a lot of money. People aren't spending
Speaker 3: a lot of time playing a bunch of different games.
Speaker 3: They are looking for their one hobby game. Uh it
Speaker 3: turns out they've already selected that, but we don't know that.
Speaker 3: We've got to try to break in and get our
Speaker 3: lottery ticket going. And when when that that's the environment,
Speaker 3: they just default to these bad decisions over and over again.
Speaker 2: So yeah, now those are some real days gone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they sure are.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, Microsoft gets so much of the attention right
Speaker 4: with like, oh, Xbox is in big trouble. The failures
Speaker 4: there are you know, pretty pretty loud, uh, And we
Speaker 4: see the consequences of that, maybe more immediately. But PlayStation
Speaker 4: just has so many of the same exact challenges and
Speaker 4: again it's pretty loud too now with what happened with Concord.
Speaker 4: It is just it's it's hard over state kind of
Speaker 4: the impact that one games failure is going to have
Speaker 4: on you know, PlayStation and even the industry.
Speaker 2: M hm. What does this mean overall for Marathon though,
Speaker 2: because that is still being pitched as like a games
Speaker 2: or a live service game, right.
Speaker 4: Better hit. There's also rivers that bungees making a mobile too, right,
Speaker 4: So I don't know, but I feel like there's so
Speaker 4: many of these boy that game better hit moments in
Speaker 4: the industry right now, right, I mean absolutely if it
Speaker 4: would be soft and Assassin's Creed Shadows, yes, you know,
Speaker 4: it's like that with Grand Theft thought six, which you
Speaker 4: know it'd be weird if it didn't hit, but boy,
Speaker 4: it better hit.
Speaker 3: Mm hm oh man, imagine what what world we're gonna be?
Speaker 3: And if somehow Grand Theft out of six had like
Speaker 3: a cyberpunk style launch and it was just everything was
Speaker 3: on fire and international news stories be a rough place, yeah,
Speaker 3: it would be bad. Yeah. I mean, I just think
Speaker 3: that going forward, it's gonna have to be like these
Speaker 3: companies are just gonna do more cost cutting. They're probably
Speaker 3: going to cut more jobs while they try to figure
Speaker 3: out what's next. And that's so it's like that Survive
Speaker 3: twenty five is rough.
Speaker 4: We could we continue to spot this spiral of fewer
Speaker 4: and fewer games coming out, which specifically for PlayStation and
Speaker 4: Xbox is gonna be a big problems. That's that's the
Speaker 4: only differentiating thing now is these exclusives in a lot
Speaker 4: of wayspecs. You know, in a world win a switch
Speaker 4: to it's gonna be able to play a lot more
Speaker 4: of these third party games that you wouldn't necessarily have
Speaker 4: gone on the switch before. I don't know, it's it
Speaker 4: seems kind of like a scary time in the future
Speaker 4: for these companies, and something's got to get figured out
Speaker 4: with PlayStation. Maybe it's this move to revive some older franchises.
Speaker 4: Then maybe then hey, now we can figure out what
Speaker 4: Bend and Bluepoint do. They can you know, help revive
Speaker 4: this this old franchise and they can make that real
Speaker 4: specificity in some way. Maybe you can make them do
Speaker 4: something new, of course, but it seems like a slightly
Speaker 4: safer bet to do the old ip thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, I think they're just against the wall,
Speaker 3: right because they need to find new people to buy
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars consoles and they've sort of run out. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, we we buy a lot of those, but
Speaker 3: that is not a growing market, and so spending a
Speaker 3: lot of excuse me, a lot of extra money making
Speaker 3: new games to entice people to buy that console. What
Speaker 3: we just said, well, new people aren't buying the consoles,
Speaker 3: so what are we doing this for. It's it's tough
Speaker 3: get that. That is why they continue to look outside
Speaker 3: of the console. Real quick about this, I did mention
Speaker 3: somewhere now I don't remember where, that people at the
Speaker 3: studios found out at the same time as the story
Speaker 3: went live, And while that is definitely true for some people,
Speaker 3: it definitely is true for because and really it was
Speaker 3: there was an email that went out about half an
Speaker 3: hour before the story went live over on Bloomberg, and
Speaker 3: many people did find out then, but of course some
Speaker 3: leadership new like I said that that the conversations about
Speaker 3: the review for these games was happening since December, so
Speaker 3: definitely some people had known for a while. And how
Speaker 3: that stuff is disseminated internally at these studios is always
Speaker 3: going to be different from studio to studio, so maybe
Speaker 3: a lot of people knew it one or the other.
Speaker 3: But really, what I was just trying to say is
Speaker 3: this stuff is happening now ish recently in the last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, and their future is still very much
Speaker 3: uncertain about what they're going to be working on next.
Speaker 3: All right, let's see here, let me get back on
Speaker 3: the the right doc here, Okay. Dragon Age director leaves
Speaker 3: BioWare for an offer she couldn't turn down. Koran Bush,
Speaker 3: the game director of Dragon Age the Veil Guard, is
Speaker 3: leaving BioWare after eighteen years at Electronic Arts. Bush stated
Speaker 3: that her decision was based on a personal fulfillment and
Speaker 3: a desire for a new challenge. She expressed a pride
Speaker 3: in her work on Dragon Age the Veil Guard, saying
Speaker 3: that she helped bring the game back to a proper
Speaker 3: quality single player RPG. People don't remember that game was
Speaker 3: going to be a multiplayer online and Korn Bush came
Speaker 3: in and kind of rescued it and turned it into
Speaker 3: the game it is that is noticeable and respectable as
Speaker 3: a single player art even if not everyone loved it.
Speaker 3: It was clearly a rescue project that she is largely
Speaker 3: responsible for. Bush now acknowledged the challenges of the game's
Speaker 3: development cycle and the toll it took on her. While
Speaker 3: she believes Bywear is on the right track, culturally. She
Speaker 3: also noted that there is still work to be done.
Speaker 3: But yeah, basically she is going to a new job
Speaker 3: to make a new RPG at a different company after
Speaker 3: eighteen years moving up the chain at EA. And really,
Speaker 3: I think that's what these stories always are. We hear
Speaker 3: about a lot of directors leaving studios after making a project.
Speaker 3: There's only so far you can go up inside of
Speaker 3: a publisher like EA, and eventually then you just run
Speaker 3: out of a runway to continue improving your career. So
Speaker 3: at a certain point, if you want to move on,
Speaker 3: you got to move on to a place where it's like, well,
Speaker 3: maybe I could see myself becoming a chief executive or
Speaker 3: a chief creative officer or something like that, And that's
Speaker 3: just not going to happen at EA for someone working
Speaker 3: on the Dragon Age game, at least now, not immediately.
Speaker 3: It would take decades to get to posis yourself in
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. So really this is just, Hey,
Speaker 3: I want to continue growing in my career. This is
Speaker 3: the best way to do that. So yeah, she's moving on,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people at these studios are working
Speaker 3: on mass Efect go ahead.
Speaker 4: And well what the studio I thought that I heard
Speaker 4: that one she was fired and that two they're closing
Speaker 4: Bio Where Edmonton because the game was woke and sold bed.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So this reporting initially came out of some online weirdos
Speaker 3: who immediately used it to lie that say that the
Speaker 3: studio was closing down, And everyone I've tried to like
Speaker 3: talk to about that says, I, No, there's nothing to that.
Speaker 3: Bio where Edmonton was a reportably going to close down
Speaker 3: in February. According to online liars, people who are their
Speaker 3: whole job is to grift and make people mad about
Speaker 3: wo can get paid money by doing that. Why would
Speaker 3: they have a reason to lie about such a thing.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine, but they did. And so when I
Speaker 3: was originally told about the story, I didn't even know
Speaker 3: about that, but I was told about the story, it
Speaker 3: was just that she's moving on and that's true, and
Speaker 3: the letter is real and here it is, and the
Speaker 3: studio is probably not going to close down. They are
Speaker 3: all working on mass effect. Yeah uh yeah, so thanks.
Speaker 3: I'll continue to still my stories from those guys absolutely,
Speaker 3: Sally guy. Yeah, plagiarism, that's what plagiarism is.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get sued.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get super plagiarism.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because of your big story, except that you said
Speaker 4: was it'sae. I've been deleting a lot of comments on YouTube, Lily,
Speaker 4: and I'll tell you what. Keep making them chuts originally
Speaker 4: so much joy to delete each of every one of them.
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, that's right, all right, some more stories here.
Speaker 3: Analysts hope GTA six will cost as much as one
Speaker 3: hundred dollars. Uh, basically an analyst put out some two
Speaker 3: hundred page report. Doesn't seem very good. One of the
Speaker 3: suggestions is that people are hoping that Grand Theft Auto
Speaker 3: six will be one hundred dollars because then that would
Speaker 3: give permission and leeway and sort of the cultural space
Speaker 3: for other publishers to charge eighty or ninety dollars for
Speaker 3: their games that are not GTA six, and then that
Speaker 3: money will help make this whole business makes sense again, Hey, guys,
Speaker 3: if this is where we're at, we're done.
Speaker 2: We're cooked.
Speaker 3: This is like, this is not not ay charging more
Speaker 3: for your product. I get it, But that is the
Speaker 3: fundamental issue is all these games we continue excuse me
Speaker 3: talking about every week are very expensive and they're competing
Speaker 3: with TikTok, which is free and online and mobile games
Speaker 3: which are free, and that's what's really taking all the
Speaker 3: space out of their rem So what I mean.
Speaker 4: There's so many games where clearly the problem is like
Speaker 4: if people don't really want to spend so many bucks
Speaker 4: on a Star Wars Outbaws right, or even like you know,
Speaker 4: like a foul Fantasy sixteen, it's got These prices are
Speaker 4: kind of tough, right now. I get why these posters
Speaker 4: and developers can feel like that, like, let's be generous
Speaker 4: to say the eighty dollar thing at least, because these
Speaker 4: games are just getting so ridiculously expensive to make, but
Speaker 4: to expect to just raise the price and there not
Speaker 4: be some further massive drop off. I mean, honestly, the
Speaker 4: seventy dollars thing went worse than I expected, right, I
Speaker 4: thought the people would be kind of I think consumers
Speaker 4: can maybe handle that. There's a lot of other economic
Speaker 4: pressures going on there where that didn't fly so well.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we're not. People aren't really on board with
Speaker 4: that yet. Let's not talk about one hundred dollars what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, jam please, Well yeah, when you
Speaker 2: just look at the field and look at uh, the people,
Speaker 2: that kind of lapsed from regularly buying games, and you
Speaker 2: look at the one or two games they play a year.
Speaker 2: Most of the time that one or two games they
Speaker 2: play is on their phone, and it is a free gotcha.
Speaker 2: And sure they are spent. They may spend spend money
Speaker 2: on it, but I know a couple folks that will
Speaker 2: get hours and hours of entertainment for free from playing
Speaker 2: that free to play game. And we're moving towards the
Speaker 2: future where people are just playing one to two games
Speaker 2: a year and just kind of like passively viewing or
Speaker 2: watching people stream other games, having this be the cost
Speaker 2: of entry. I don't think people are going to pony
Speaker 2: up guys.
Speaker 4: You say future kind of just sounds like now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but again, like you, hey me, I hope people understand
Speaker 4: just because if Grand Theft Aisle six gets away with that,
Speaker 4: that does not mean you are going to get away
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Assassin's creen shadows one hundred dollars because GTA six
Speaker 3: did it. What No, that would never that would never
Speaker 3: be seen in the same way ever. But I mean,
Speaker 3: I think it just overlooks the reality of selling things
Speaker 3: to people, like the GTA six will be one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: There will be a one hundred dollars version of that game,
Speaker 3: and all Rockstar has to do is give you a
Speaker 3: few things to make you feel special and make you
Speaker 3: feel included. I mean, honestly, if it's a three day
Speaker 3: early access thing and you have to pay one hundred dollars,
Speaker 3: that cop that version of that game sells what a million?
Speaker 3: Two million copies in the first three days easy, probably
Speaker 3: more than that, honestly, but at least a million copies
Speaker 3: in it because like forts Horizon five did that, it
Speaker 3: had the early version for one hundred dollars and it
Speaker 3: had a million copies sold or to those people, So
Speaker 3: you can charge one hundred dollars. You just have to
Speaker 3: make people feel like they're getting away with something and
Speaker 3: that damn it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, all right, okay, Mike, I will give you one.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I don't have a cat, but it'd be nice.
Speaker 3: Man. Fortune is really three million, okay, jesus. Yeah. So
Speaker 3: GTA six will do a ton just out of the
Speaker 3: gate at one hundred dollars. So yeah, they will do that.
Speaker 3: But it's like this idea then that that should just
Speaker 3: be the default price. It's like, no, no one is
Speaker 3: actually having that conversation, it's too flexible the way that
Speaker 3: we viewed the cost of spending on video games, because
Speaker 3: we are so used to sales that we are always
Speaker 3: doing that calculus in our heads. So every single game
Speaker 3: is its own consideration, and GTA six will be a
Speaker 3: special case that you just cannot apply across the entire industry.
Speaker 3: It would never work that way.
Speaker 2: Is there a game you would pay one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: to maybe play? A week early?
Speaker 3: I remember the conversation that I'm blessing and Tim had
Speaker 3: over a kind of funny when Tiers of the Kingdom
Speaker 3: was coming out, and it was like this was like
Speaker 3: weeks early, maybe months early, and they were talking like
Speaker 3: what price they would pay just to be able to
Speaker 3: make sure that they could play Tiers of the Kingdom,
Speaker 3: And and the price for that got up to like
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars, Like like like if you had if
Speaker 3: you had to pay a thousand dollars the only way
Speaker 3: you could play Tiers of the Kingdom, would you do it?
Speaker 3: And I was in there thinking like, yeah, probably I
Speaker 3: probably would. Yeah, probably I probably would have paid one
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Now what I pay a thousand dollars to play it
Speaker 4: a week early. No, No, not a week or a
Speaker 4: hundred dollars to play it a week early.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I think there's occasional times where I might have considered
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars to play something a week early, but
Speaker 3: in these days probably No.
Speaker 4: There's definitely time my life where like I was just like, WHOA,
Speaker 4: I could do this early. Wow, that's a crowd you know,
Speaker 4: I'll pay for that privilege. That's that'sfinitely a thing. I
Speaker 4: think most people get a bit over when they're older,
Speaker 4: and time just starts going by in the bleak of
Speaker 4: an eye. Anyways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in like Colonel Sanders mentions that this is something
Speaker 3: worth considering as well. You charged one hundred dollars for
Speaker 3: a game in the United States, that game is going
Speaker 3: to be one hundred and fifty dollars in Canada. And
Speaker 3: how do you present that to people? What does that
Speaker 3: look like? Really? It looks kind of insane and like
Speaker 3: this industry has completely gone off the rails, and it
Speaker 3: already does look that way in many cases, but there's
Speaker 3: sort of no hiding it at that point. So I
Speaker 3: think this is just something like it's not like a
Speaker 3: third rail, it's just way more complicated than if GTA
Speaker 3: six does it, everyone else should feel good about raising
Speaker 3: the price. Honestly, if you're one of these companies, you
Speaker 3: should be finding ways to get more creative so you
Speaker 3: can keep the initial price down and find some ways
Speaker 3: to mix more money on the back end. Make people
Speaker 3: feel good about my kirtran actions. I don't know how
Speaker 3: to do that, but that that's a better bet than
Speaker 3: charging more of back to horse armor and cat helmets.
Speaker 5: Had it right the three sixty era.
Speaker 2: I'm fine with Michael Transactions.
Speaker 3: Is all right? Yeah, yeah, let's see here, Jamie h Christmas.
Speaker 3: You just dropped this one. Okay. Reflect Or Entertainment had
Speaker 3: some layoffs. Yeah, I don't think layoffs are going to
Speaker 3: slow down. We had that. We did. Just talk about
Speaker 3: that Dragon Age story. Why well, I don't think buy
Speaker 3: where Edmonton is closing. Pretty sure it's not. That doesn't
Speaker 3: mean there will not be any more layoffs at e A.
Speaker 3: E A probably will have more ways. So all right,
Speaker 3: let's see here I am on this one. Marvel Snap
Speaker 3: temporarily went offline as part of the TikTok band in
Speaker 3: the United States, So what am I supposed to do
Speaker 3: all driving now? Guys. This Byte Dance is the company
Speaker 3: that publishes a Marvel Snap and the responsible for TikTok.
Speaker 3: TikTok was banned and then they like came back even
Speaker 3: though it wasn't unbanned because Trump was going to be pressed.
Speaker 3: And it fucking sucks out here, everybody. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've been paying attention, but it sucks. It's the worst.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And as part of that, Marvel Snap got caught up
Speaker 3: in it because Byte Dance couldn't publish stuff in the
Speaker 3: United States or something. Again, none of it really made sense,
Speaker 3: but Marvel Snap going offline surprise the people making Marvel
Speaker 3: Snap to the point where now they are looking for
Speaker 3: a different publisher. So they're like, this will never happen again.
Speaker 3: We don't want this to happen again, so we are
Speaker 3: going to try to leave Byte Dance and find someone else.
Speaker 4: Something pretty stressful few days for him one at second
Speaker 4: dinner there. Geez.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like, you know, going twelve hours without
Speaker 3: revenue is like an easy thing to go through for
Speaker 3: any company. But this is the free to play mobile
Speaker 3: game where you're always trying to keep your momentum. Any
Speaker 3: sort of speed bump like that is going to throw
Speaker 3: off everything for you. And now it's like their revenues
Speaker 3: might come up short for the quarter because of this.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's a tough situation. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: TikTok's back, Marvel Snap is back. Nothing matters, So I
Speaker 3: don't know. Keep playing.
Speaker 2: TikTok's not completely bad.
Speaker 3: I don't really, I stop checking. I don't care anymore,
Speaker 3: all right. A new ESRB ratings suggests a classic Well,
Speaker 3: Resident Evil is getting an Xbox Series and PS five
Speaker 3: re release. This is rising in Evil six. It got
Speaker 3: an M rating from Yeah that's the face, there you go,
Speaker 3: that's the sound. Yeah, they called it a classic in
Speaker 3: this headline over at VGC.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This game came out for the Xbox through sixteen PS
Speaker 3: three in October twenty twelve. It was then ported to
Speaker 3: Xbox One and PS four in March of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: So this game already works in a pretty good state
Speaker 3: on Xbox Series X and S and the PS five.
Speaker 3: What this suggest is this will now get a native
Speaker 3: version on Xbox Series X and S. And although a
Speaker 3: PS five version has not been given the s SRB rating,
Speaker 3: the assumption would be that would happen as well. What
Speaker 3: do you guys think this is like a full remaster?
Speaker 3: Clearly not a remax.
Speaker 5: They don't want four level Like, no, it's I played
Speaker 5: through this.
Speaker 6: I played one of the four campaigns, like maybe in
Speaker 6: the last two years with Kayla, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: You streamed it with Kayla. I remember watching that and
Speaker 3: being like that, this is the way for me to
Speaker 3: engage with this game is watch Dan and Kayla play it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like, I think she's beating every Resident Evil,
Speaker 6: but that like the Cores series, and I think it's
Speaker 6: the only number Resident Evil I haven't beat, just because
Speaker 6: it's like it is way longer than it needs to be.
Speaker 6: And as much as I love big stupid action, it's
Speaker 6: not really what I want from my Resident Evil. And
Speaker 6: it just felt cheap, like I don't know, just something
Speaker 6: about controlling it, Like those games are always so tight
Speaker 6: and this one just felt like a B game.
Speaker 5: Basically, we don't need any one of these.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been getting so into Resident Evil lately though, and
Speaker 4: this is like one of the once I ever played
Speaker 4: much because that demo for.
Speaker 5: It was so bad. I'll played with you were bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, I'm kind of happy I'm like, I
Speaker 4: want to play this shit. I want to see what's
Speaker 4: going on with Resident Evil six. I definitely don't think
Speaker 4: that this like bes anything in terms of like the
Speaker 4: full blown remake or the number of entries coming out.
Speaker 4: I think this is just, hey, we can do like
Speaker 4: a little bit of something something here to release a
Speaker 4: PS five and Xbox series and probably a switch to
Speaker 4: the version of this very likely.
Speaker 3: So I did six come to switch one? I think
Speaker 3: it might have.
Speaker 5: No, I don't don't know if it ever did. Five,
Speaker 5: did it five? And four did?
Speaker 4: That's the thing, like, asides from you know, just the
Speaker 4: backwards compatibility with the PS four version, I don't think
Speaker 4: this has ever really been Oh there's a cloud version
Speaker 4: of shit?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow.
Speaker 5: Honestly, if you're illegal.
Speaker 3: Maybe the timing does make more sense for what you said,
Speaker 3: there's like a native version getting updated for switch to,
Speaker 3: so they're like, well, why don't we just do it
Speaker 3: for everything at the same time? That might be of
Speaker 3: what is happening here.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I'm still so curious to see what the
Speaker 4: next remake is. We're probably gonna hear about it RESUL
Speaker 4: nine f ust but you know, cause it could be five.
Speaker 4: It could be Code Raka, could be zero, could be one.
Speaker 3: Again, the rumors leave off. Did I think the last
Speaker 3: round of Remembers was Code Veronica? My last rumor sived.
Speaker 4: Code Veronica Positive, which is I think the most exciting
Speaker 4: one personally. But we'll see. Well, it was so confusing
Speaker 4: because Reside Will six so really well for some reason,
Speaker 4: even though everyone said it was bad and I never
Speaker 4: knew anybody who played it, I always every on's while
Speaker 4: I'm like, I think they're just lying. I don't think
Speaker 4: that's true. I don't think resid six is the best
Speaker 4: receival game. I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 3: It's a tough, tough one. But yeah that I think
Speaker 3: Resident Evil for Remake is now on its way to
Speaker 3: beat the.
Speaker 4: Fastest selling one. Yes, it should be so good.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Okay, so there's some mix up. I think
Speaker 3: Sean's saying that the Reduvil six on switch is native,
Speaker 3: which you know it was a three sixty game. Why
Speaker 3: wouldn't it.
Speaker 5: Be Yeah, gosh, okay, man, I didn't even know it
Speaker 5: was on the switch.
Speaker 3: It came out in twenty nineteen, according to the AAH
Speaker 3: Sound under the Radar.
Speaker 4: Okay, yep, all right, Resievil seven is the club version,
Speaker 4: think you show Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, I guess last. I think you're right
Speaker 3: like that. It's like this is not part of what
Speaker 3: they're doing with the numbered remix, but I think this
Speaker 3: is like this is what sex is going to get
Speaker 3: as part of that process, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they ever think it gets a remake because like
Speaker 4: maybe it's a we make good thing.
Speaker 5: It could be a pretty extensive remake. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, you know, not never in the history of
Speaker 3: the world. But I don't think it's like in their
Speaker 3: cards at the moment. I think you.
Speaker 4: Exhaust all the other options stres Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: Maybe you do it like a fourth or fifth Resident
Speaker 3: Evil one remake before you get that again?
Speaker 5: Why remake only the DS version?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, we go game the Game Boy Color one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, remake Residentval Guidance, Yeah, perfect, all right.
Speaker 3: PS five Dinosaur Horror game is skipping a PC release
Speaker 3: to avoid sexualized mods.
Speaker 2: What Yeah?
Speaker 4: Since there?
Speaker 3: Dinosaur Horror Game Code Violet will be released exclusively exclusively
Speaker 3: for PS five this July, and the developer stated it
Speaker 3: doesn't want to go to PC due to concerns about
Speaker 3: players creating sexualized mods of the game's characters. Someone on
Speaker 3: Blue Sky pointed out that this sounds like a Tim
Speaker 3: Robinson sketch where he's like in the room trying to explain, No,
Speaker 3: you can't put it on PC. They're gonna fuck the dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: We just can't do it. You see a dinosaur, how
Speaker 3: do you not fuck it? You definitely have to fuck it.
Speaker 6: So question if people are wanting to fuck the dinosaurs, why,
Speaker 6: why does that hurt the game makers?
Speaker 3: I don't know. In fact, and if history has anything
Speaker 3: to say about this, it is it only helps the
Speaker 3: people make Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, problem really you know? Yeah, I mean maybe they're puritans.
Speaker 4: I don't know, they're lying. Maybe they just don't want
Speaker 4: to it sounds hard to make a PC part. They'll
Speaker 4: just say this. It sounds nice, right. I think we
Speaker 4: respect our actors or whatever. That's what it's about.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Dan, just like cap Cover six, it one's lying.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that. I don't think we need to
Speaker 2: respect dinosaurs. Yeah, what are they gonna do?
Speaker 3: Go fuck the dinosaurs? I don't care. I'm not judging.
Speaker 6: If you said that on Blue Sky, you'd have at
Speaker 6: least five replies, being like naturally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've definitely noticed more of that since you said
Speaker 3: that last time. Destroy the discover tab please. Yeah. It
Speaker 3: is like you just can't find the balance of social media.
Speaker 3: It's either all people trying to destroy everything all the
Speaker 3: time or yeah, yeah, they.
Speaker 5: I'm afraid we might have sailed past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely pasted the honeymoon period there.
Speaker 2: They said, I will punch a Nazi in the fucking mouth.
Speaker 2: Don't come after me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there a new feature we've got cooking you stupid bitch.
Speaker 3: Yep eat ship all right, no nightmare, Nightmare jan after
Speaker 3: all the Nazis. Hell Yeah, Team Jerry Brake, Team Jerry,
Speaker 3: Team Cherry Jerry.
Speaker 9: Team Jerry way ahead of Team Tom right now thinks
Speaker 9: everybody Team Team Jerry breaks Hollow Night's silk song Radio Silence.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's real progressing and will release Mike. You're right,
Speaker 3: everybody's lying. They're just out there lying.
Speaker 4: This thing's going great, everybody. Yeah, I'm still I'm pointed
Speaker 4: out a little bit of hope for like, this thing's
Speaker 4: gonna show up, but that switch to direct as maybe
Speaker 4: a switchhoe launch game.
Speaker 5: Then if it's not there, I'm gonna be like something's wrong.
Speaker 4: Wrong.
Speaker 3: I mean just to like give the timeline again. The
Speaker 3: game appeared in the twenty twenty three Xbox Summer Game
Speaker 3: Fest thing and and if you if people remember a
Speaker 3: whole bit with that, the gimmick was everything in this
Speaker 3: showcase will be out within the next twelve months. And
Speaker 3: I think since then every game that was in there,
Speaker 3: a lot, most of them got delayed, most of them
Speaker 3: did not come out in the twelve months. But thinks
Speaker 3: since then every single game has come out, including like
Speaker 3: Stalker two if that was in there, just not Spoon
Speaker 3: Heaven upon Heaven. Spoon Heaven's your one game.
Speaker 2: That is not hate you grub because anytime I see
Speaker 2: Silk Song, I don't know what it is. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what are we gonna hear about Spoon Heaven?
Speaker 3: Well, how do you think I feel? I didn't know
Speaker 3: in the first place. I'm like, I think it's called
Speaker 3: spoon Heaven.
Speaker 4: There's no spoons, there's no heaven.
Speaker 2: What they can come from.
Speaker 3: Place?
Speaker 4: He has a need all. I think that somebot needle
Speaker 4: turned to fork fork. There was between there. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: was a spork period. That was the gradient, and then
Speaker 4: we just got the spoon of it. I mean, look,
Speaker 4: this game has a lot of hand drawn art, so
Speaker 4: maybe the scope of it is just difficult, and it's
Speaker 4: just difficult waiting on all those assets being made right.
Speaker 4: Skill maybe got a little out of control. I don't
Speaker 4: actually think there's this game never comes out. That would
Speaker 4: be pretty wild. But like, of course, you know, you know,
Speaker 4: we saw like with Sports Story, right all, like that
Speaker 4: drama that can kind of happen sometimes with these more teams.
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to say that that's what's happening here,
Speaker 4: but it's hard to not speculate like what's going on
Speaker 4: or things, you know, smoothing smoothing, sailing smoothly over there,
Speaker 4: aka smoothing at the moment. Ah, I just want to
Speaker 4: see more of this game. I like first of all,
Speaker 4: night a lots. I would love to play Spoon Heaven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the uh, this just happens with
Speaker 3: indie games. Like you said, they have they put out
Speaker 3: a game, they want to do the follow up, and
Speaker 3: they just put so much pressure and perfectionism on themselves
Speaker 3: to get everything right. And really these days, when you
Speaker 3: have a successful indie game, that thing just keeps selling
Speaker 3: and it keeps funding all that development, So you can
Speaker 3: take your time. There is no reason to rush it out.
Speaker 3: You can make Delta Rune parts over the course of years.
Speaker 5: You remember Haunted Chocolate.
Speaker 3: Ear take a break, Haunted Chocolateer Exactly, let's go. I
Speaker 3: want to go. I just want to keep working on
Speaker 3: Starty Value, and I can because the money keeps rolling
Speaker 3: in from that first game. My needs are met and
Speaker 3: I'm not some crazy person that has to always be growing.
Speaker 3: I could just fund my life, work on the projects
Speaker 3: I want to work on, and at my own pace.
Speaker 3: I just think that's always what happens with these indie games,
Speaker 3: and this one just happens to be maybe a little
Speaker 3: bit more ambitious, so they're taking even more time.
Speaker 2: Maybe they got to redraw all the assets because people
Speaker 2: keep calling it Spoon Heaven.
Speaker 3: Maybe we should probably rework this whole thing.
Speaker 5: Think anybody at that studio is aware of Jeff calling
Speaker 5: the game?
Speaker 4: Yes, there is no way, Yeah, tem Cherry, if there's
Speaker 4: a team Jerry, if if there's like at least one
Speaker 4: Spoon Heaven reference in that game, Like I can't.
Speaker 3: Even cause the game to take another six months.
Speaker 5: It's worth It's.
Speaker 3: Worth it because just because every time we bring it up,
Speaker 3: someone like on Twitter or Blue Sky or someone will
Speaker 3: mention spoon Heaven. It's it's over brothers, So yeah, I
Speaker 3: think they probably know about it. Let's go spook all right,
Speaker 3: last story here, Mexico tariffs could lead to fewer physical
Speaker 3: game releases and increased software prices. US President Donald Trump
Speaker 3: proposed twenty five percent tariff on imports from Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 3: He says he wants to pass that on February first,
Speaker 3: and that could lead to fewer physical game releases and
Speaker 3: higher software prices in the US because, as Matt Piscatella,
Speaker 3: executive director of video games at market research firm Circana,
Speaker 3: points out, a lot of the discs that we play
Speaker 3: and buy are manufactured in Mexico. A lot of the
Speaker 3: infrastructure for bringing those discs into the United States is
Speaker 3: in Mexico. So if there's a tariff across the board,
Speaker 3: twenty five percent tariff on everything that comes from Mexico,
Speaker 3: that's an immediate twenty five percent cost increase to bring
Speaker 3: physical games to the United States. If you want to
Speaker 3: destroy the physical game market, this is a good way
Speaker 3: to do it.
Speaker 2: Now, my eggs, yeah, right, And this is a just.
Speaker 3: A crazy, stupid thing. It won't benefit anybody. It's just
Speaker 3: it's just a tax.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: But they do this because then it's they can have
Speaker 3: these flat taxes that everyone has to pay. And they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: well that will make it up when we cut the
Speaker 3: taxes for billionaires going forward, and or so won't. But
Speaker 3: that's the plan, and we all have to pay for
Speaker 3: it by spending more on games. And really they will
Speaker 3: just release fewer physical games. They will they will pick
Speaker 3: and choose like which games get They are already doing this,
Speaker 3: but they will be even more like specific with what
Speaker 3: the kinds of games that actually get approved to get
Speaker 3: physical versions going forward if this does go through. Now,
Speaker 3: of course there could be exceptions. There are always exceptions
Speaker 3: to these tariffs, but there's just no reason to assume
Speaker 3: video games would be able to get in there, other than,
Speaker 3: of course, number one gamer in the world is in
Speaker 3: the administration, so maybe maybe he can help out there.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I want to throttle them, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: want to hurt him. I could say that one right
Speaker 3: he's not president.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't even care if he is. I'll
Speaker 2: fucking punch him in the face.
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's bad it's just a rate of shit. Sorry,
Speaker 3: everyone who's feeling especially targeted. Trans writes to all y'all
Speaker 3: out there. You know, we got some emails later, but
Speaker 3: I don't know if we'll get to all of them.
Speaker 3: But someone mentioned like, you know the parasocial relationships. I
Speaker 3: know that you know these sorts of relationships. When you
Speaker 3: listen to a podcast like this and you are, you
Speaker 3: feel like you have a home like Sometimes they could
Speaker 3: be unfulfilling because it's not a personal relationship. There are
Speaker 3: sides to this where you can still take advantage of that.
Speaker 3: Get in the discord, come hang out with the people
Speaker 3: that have like minded interest as you will, try to
Speaker 3: keep creating a safe space so you could feel like
Speaker 3: you have some ground to go to. It's kind of
Speaker 3: the best we have to offer right now while we're
Speaker 3: all reeling. So yeah, we'll try to have your back
Speaker 3: as best we can. Jan that does it for the headlines.
Speaker 3: This shows back over you.
Speaker 2: I need to go take a quick bricky break to
Speaker 2: go punch some people in the face. I strongly suggest
Speaker 2: y'all go do that as well, and we'll be back
Speaker 2: with some emails. Emails. Bombcastagiant bomb dot com is the
Speaker 2: email address to send your emails to. You can send
Speaker 2: an email about virtually any and everything. And I got
Speaker 2: to give a special shouts out to y'all. We have
Speaker 2: actually had a flood of emails come in. Uh people
Speaker 2: listen to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey, I appreciate you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: For sending a shoot email in and having a question
Speaker 2: and sometimes we may not be able to get to it,
Speaker 2: but I appreciate it none the less. First email is
Speaker 2: about Mega Man. Emailer rights in and asks, hey, dudeers,
Speaker 2: I just got into the Chinese handheld game over Christmas
Speaker 2: and got my AP and ver Nick up and running.
Speaker 2: One series I've always wanted to play but never touched
Speaker 2: is Mega Man. I was wondering if Mike or Jan
Speaker 2: or anyone else had recommendations for where to start, whether
Speaker 2: it's X Battle Network or the Core series. Thanks guys,
Speaker 2: thanks for writing the experts. I'm here to help you.
Speaker 2: Mighty number nine is a video.
Speaker 5: Game never mind, just just a liar and he loves
Speaker 5: the Steel exclusives.
Speaker 3: Everyone yelling one line, damn.
Speaker 2: Give me them sclusies.
Speaker 4: So you don't know what that exclusive means?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh not us?
Speaker 3: I yeah you j.
Speaker 5: I am a big core Mega Man guy first and foremost.
Speaker 4: I know, you know, it depends how good your ANYS
Speaker 4: games you want to play it an nes Mega Man
Speaker 4: game five doesn't get talked about a lot. It's a
Speaker 4: bit easier than some.
Speaker 6: Of the other ones, though, I think if you want to, like,
Speaker 6: if you're dipping your toe in to Mega Man, I'd
Speaker 6: say two, But.
Speaker 4: Guy, I would to I like three more than two.
Speaker 4: I think that five is a little bit more first
Speaker 4: time friendlier. Let mean, you have the chart shot, you
Speaker 4: have the slide I love too. I think you better ultimately,
Speaker 4: but five is also very good and just a little
Speaker 4: bit easier. But hey, look, you could also just go
Speaker 4: and play Mega Man two. Understand when you play these games,
Speaker 4: they're like, look up the bus order.
Speaker 3: We all do that.
Speaker 4: It's fine. You don't have to go stumble in the
Speaker 4: dark through that stuff. Mega Man X one also still
Speaker 4: just very very very good. Megan x four is the
Speaker 4: other X game that you should maybe check out, but
Speaker 4: don't sleep on.
Speaker 5: Legends.
Speaker 4: Mega Man Legends is still just very pretty and unique
Speaker 4: in a lot of ways, a ton of fun to
Speaker 4: have with Legends. The Bound Network games are very good.
Speaker 4: It's very very different different thing though. Yeah, if you
Speaker 4: are into turn based or RPG games, maybe that's more
Speaker 4: of your flavor than Definitely try the Battle Network series.
Speaker 4: Like Mike said, it's very different. There's not a lot,
Speaker 4: there's no platforming in it. But actually, if you wind
Speaker 4: up kind of clicking with any of the Mega Man
Speaker 4: X games, I would suggest trying out the Mega Man
Speaker 4: zero games that came out on the GBA. Some solid
Speaker 4: titles there, tons, especially Zero, but like those games are
Speaker 4: more story important than some of the other ones. I thought,
Speaker 4: there's a ton of it. Don't worry. There are big
Speaker 4: talkie games. Hey, you should just play those.
Speaker 2: In order, all right. Next email, Grubbery talked about this
Speaker 2: briefly before the break comes from Josh in London. Hey BombCast.
Speaker 2: Back during the holiday season, while wrapping presents with my partner,
Speaker 2: I put on the Giant Bomb at nights stream segment
Speaker 2: when the whole GB crew was on the couch. My
Speaker 2: partner was curious about each GB cast member, so I
Speaker 2: gave her the rundown on each person, their role and
Speaker 2: a little about their character. Her response was simply, do
Speaker 2: you think you have a bit of a parasocial relationship
Speaker 2: with these people? I mean, she's not wrong, but it
Speaker 2: just can't be helped. Podcasts are so weird you spend
Speaker 2: hours upon hours listening to random people speak, end of
Speaker 2: absorbing a lot of weird, detailed information about those people
Speaker 2: if they don't even.
Speaker 3: Know you exist.
Speaker 2: I am a real human being. I exist. Anyway, Do
Speaker 2: you guys have any one sided Pronthesi's polite parasocial relationships
Speaker 2: with any of the authors, filmmakers, podcast hosts, or general
Speaker 2: online slash media personalities.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: The irony of this email, Deepening Deepening said paranormal relationship
Speaker 2: is not lost on me. From Josh in London, I'm.
Speaker 6: I would be very curious to hear the rundowns like
Speaker 6: the back of the box, like here's the deal with my.
Speaker 2: Level?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the best of what he does?
Speaker 4: Like who is telling you for us?
Speaker 2: Who is the Mario of the team.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be like the X Men trading cards
Speaker 3: that had like like fighting ability and power level and
Speaker 3: things like that, And then a little.
Speaker 4: Blurb Yeah, yeah, I still have a ton of these
Speaker 4: kind of you know, parasocial relationships.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just it happens. There's something inherently wrong with that.
Speaker 4: It only gets wrong when the people start being like
Speaker 4: weird about it, right, and we all know the many
Speaker 4: ways you can be weird about it, especially like the
Speaker 4: food YouTubers. I watch so many of those guys, right,
Speaker 4: and they put out multiple videos a week, and I'm
Speaker 4: just constantly watching them, and I know the way they
Speaker 4: I know they're little quirks and all this stuff. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: you kind of develop that one way relationship, and I still,
Speaker 4: you know, there's there's some people like, oh, I don't
Speaker 4: know if I should go up and say hi to them,
Speaker 4: Like Spike Vegeta in Halved with Games done quick right,
Speaker 4: second year in a row, I didn't have the courage
Speaker 4: to say hi to Spike Vegeta. Right, I don't mind
Speaker 4: you having a parasocial relationship with me. You can also
Speaker 4: come say hi whenever you want to. It's completely fine,
Speaker 4: it's normal in some ways. It's you know, like everything
Speaker 4: in moderation, there's a moment where it becomes weird or
Speaker 4: a problem. I think ninety nine point nine nine percent
Speaker 4: of people I've ever interacted with have not crossed that line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you, Mikey. You know,
Speaker 2: I've talked openly about how my life is kind of
Speaker 2: a mess actively right now. And I do appreciate there
Speaker 2: being people out there that are concerned over my well being.
Speaker 2: And yeah, if if you see me, say hi, I
Speaker 2: don't fucking mind. Let's let's let's stop and share.
Speaker 3: And I think you know, we definitely don't mind. I
Speaker 3: think you know a loss concern usually for parasocial relationships
Speaker 3: is they just can't be your only relationship. You know,
Speaker 3: a positive relationship in your life is positive, it's stable,
Speaker 3: and it's meaningful, and we could be positive and stable
Speaker 3: in your life. It's like, do we provide meeting I
Speaker 3: think only to a certain extent, Like it's only going
Speaker 3: to be so much meaning What you really need is
Speaker 3: someone in your life that you could talk to and
Speaker 3: have a meaningful direct relationship with. And if you have
Speaker 3: those covered having some parasocial relationships where it's like I
Speaker 3: don't know, I like the way these people talk about
Speaker 3: things and I kind of can't get this anywhere else.
Speaker 3: That is completely okay, that's completely healthy, but you definitely
Speaker 3: make sure you're minding those those personal relationships as well.
Speaker 3: And went over like I think, like what would I
Speaker 3: recommend people? The thing I keep going back to is
Speaker 3: I don't find someone playing a Dungeons and Dragons game
Speaker 3: in your community and go join that, hang out with them,
Speaker 3: and then you kind of got that stuff covered. That'll
Speaker 3: kind of cover all your basis for having a good
Speaker 3: personal relationships as long as they don't suck. I suppose
Speaker 3: that's always a risk you run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take a cooking class. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, cooking class.
Speaker 4: There you go go do things, Go out and go
Speaker 4: do things.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, that's that's a key takeaway. Go out and
Speaker 2: do things. Also, if you're looking for a community. Enjoyed
Speaker 2: the Giant Bomb discord, Yeah, it's exactly.
Speaker 3: You can get those meaningful relationships still as part of
Speaker 3: this and yeah the discord. Uh, you know, hit me
Speaker 3: up on Blue Sky. I'll respond every once in a while.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jeff, you would just be some weird do I
Speaker 5: knew from the internet?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: To me, Now he's your gravy train.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gravy train.
Speaker 3: M So they call me.
Speaker 2: Have you know how they have chocolate fountains? Do they
Speaker 2: have gravy fountains?
Speaker 5: They have cheese? Some places will have cheese. Golden Kral
Speaker 5: is a chocolate and cheese in the past.
Speaker 4: A gravy volcano so much more interested in a cheese
Speaker 4: fountain choco.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I interact with most people that interact with me
Speaker 2: on Instagram also, so if you like a thing that
Speaker 2: has Scout in it or whatever, or my dumb memes,
Speaker 2: then well yeah, well let's hang h Next email is
Speaker 2: about the Bowser's Hurry stream. This comes from Jerry and Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: Hey Bombers. The Bowser's Hurry stream on Friday was fantastic.
Speaker 2: Congrats on raising all that money in such a short
Speaker 2: amount of time. I did think of a question at
Speaker 2: the end of the stream. With Mike proving that he
Speaker 2: is canonically the best Mario player, that makes him the
Speaker 2: most qualified to determine what a mainline Mario game like this? Okay,
Speaker 2: so is Mario three D World mainline? Is Bowser's Fury
Speaker 2: Now mainline? If Mike thinks it belongs there. Since he
Speaker 2: is the de facto Mario expert, all his rulings on
Speaker 2: the matter should be final. Love the show.
Speaker 10: Dan is weirder and worse at Mario than Mitch. Jerry Wisconson,
Speaker 10: very good, very good. Wow, Dan, come on, you you
Speaker 10: got last in the race. You can speak last.
Speaker 4: Don't worry well, three D World is, of course a
Speaker 4: Maine Mario gave. You would have to be associopath to
Speaker 4: not understand that.
Speaker 3: I can't speak loser. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Bowser's theory is the more interesting conversation. I
Speaker 4: should not already rope down into it. You have no
Speaker 4: hesitation saying that Bowser's Fury is amazing, but three D
Speaker 4: World is.
Speaker 5: It's correct game.
Speaker 3: I think they're both main but Dan really.
Speaker 6: I would consider I mean, look, if I was, it's
Speaker 6: weird because it wasn't a standalone thing. But in spirit,
Speaker 6: to me, the main line, the three line is moving
Speaker 6: the series forward. It's that line of like not spin
Speaker 6: offs and stuff. And I feel like Bowser's theory is
Speaker 6: the natural evolution of the series post odyssey.
Speaker 4: Why is three D World not a good evolution?
Speaker 5: That was a sad thing? It's for four players. Look,
Speaker 5: we've been over this. It's it's not it's part of the.
Speaker 6: Three D part of the same thing, four player multiplayer focus. U,
Speaker 6: you're kind of isometric.
Speaker 5: Multiplayer in three D land? What's why is isometric weird? Well,
Speaker 5: it's just like, it's not the stated it's not the evolution,
Speaker 5: it's not the next step past out. So things standard
Speaker 5: but also pushed forward by being different. That's correct.
Speaker 6: Well, don galay, Galaxy too. Galaxy Too is main line
Speaker 6: and that didn't push forward.
Speaker 4: That was just an eclus it. So so you can't
Speaker 4: be an evolution, but it's the line, the main line.
Speaker 6: It just goes like this, So here, okay if I
Speaker 6: so it's kind of down here Mara one two through Superintendent.
Speaker 6: We got a little bump in the line. Oh yo,
Speaker 6: she's ying, Okay, gonna keep Oh sixty four, Wow, we're
Speaker 6: three D Now we're really going up. Oh so he's
Speaker 6: got a jet pack. Oh no, he's in space and
Speaker 6: we got gravity. Now he's got a hat.
Speaker 4: And now.
Speaker 3: I didn't know you're here to speak so eloquently about it.
Speaker 3: Make a bunch of sounds.
Speaker 4: The man he's like, yeah, watch a master. People aren't
Speaker 4: coming to you for these Yeah. Oh yeah, they're both
Speaker 4: mainline games about the Fury. I maybe used to be like,
Speaker 4: I don't know because like the pack in playing it.
Speaker 4: Now I'm like, no, this is one of them.
Speaker 2: Got that hat.
Speaker 5: This is just what he's gonna hat.
Speaker 4: Now if you say it like well, now he's got
Speaker 4: a hat, then it sounds like it's important.
Speaker 5: It was important. Now he's got a cat suit.
Speaker 2: It's so funny, how jovial and chummy these two are
Speaker 2: in person.
Speaker 3: Yes, they're right.
Speaker 2: Knives out right now.
Speaker 6: I love it because I keep bringing up this thing
Speaker 6: that I've been proven correct about, and it keeps coming out.
Speaker 4: And I were just at the museum where you're proven incorrect.
Speaker 4: Mode did that twenty years ago, and it was it
Speaker 4: was mistranslated.
Speaker 5: It was twelve years ago. I'm about thirteen year old.
Speaker 4: All you asked him about was the Yoshi's Island thing,
Speaker 4: which we're not even talking about now.
Speaker 5: Let's ask Hi about three D World next time I
Speaker 5: see me about ask about three D World.
Speaker 4: You definitely, Dan, Do you really think there is a
Speaker 4: chance in hell that sha hear me most I say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's not a mainline Mario game. Whatever he thinks that means.
Speaker 4: He's gonna say that's not a real Mario. We've been
Speaker 4: with everything in the past.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, ex what are you.
Speaker 6: And every reasons? Weren't his kids anymore? And I do
Speaker 6: disagree with him about.
Speaker 2: That all right. Speaking about Chakerama Mooto next week.
Speaker 3: These Mario races, if he still gets away with all this,
Speaker 3: damn it.
Speaker 4: Somebody's got to do something.
Speaker 2: Mike, I get shoot worried about you. When you get
Speaker 2: worked up, sometimes I feel great. Oh wow, definitely are
Speaker 2: the George of the team. Uh from Seattle. Uh writes
Speaker 2: in about favorite game directors, Hey duders, first time, long time.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking a lot about leadership recently and how
Speaker 2: important it is for games, for any project to have
Speaker 2: a clear and strong vision and have some someone at
Speaker 2: the helm who can see it through while also having
Speaker 2: a keen understanding of limitations. Who is messing with the
Speaker 2: doc right now? I'm not making it bigger. I'm not
Speaker 2: doing that like budgets, timelines, and technology, et cetera. It's
Speaker 2: my view that a great director with a good team
Speaker 2: results in a better product than a good director with
Speaker 2: a great team. Do you find that to be the case.
Speaker 2: Are there any directors you trust to always steer a
Speaker 2: game in a good direction, even if you might not
Speaker 2: always like or agree with the choices. Love y'all, Dan
Speaker 2: from Seattle.
Speaker 5: Kajimamoto, I really like Sam Lake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody's infallible. I think everybody making
Speaker 4: games is so complicated and so dependent a more than
Speaker 4: one person that everybody could have a disaster in them
Speaker 4: or a misstep in them, right, I just I do
Speaker 4: think that there are just personalities that are well suited
Speaker 4: to it. Like I chatted with Corey baurog Barlow excuse
Speaker 4: me like an E three way back before that God
Speaker 4: of Worry boot came in, just like from talking to him, like, Oh,
Speaker 4: this guy really knows what he's doing. He seems really
Speaker 4: nice and interesting. I bet he just makes good video
Speaker 4: games and that just absolutely was the case, right Yep?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Josh Sawyer recently, you guy that did
Speaker 3: the New Vegas impentiment and stuff like that. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: after playing Pentiment and kind of like paying attention to
Speaker 3: much like I allow him on social media. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It just seems like he has a pretty good idea
Speaker 3: of like what he wants to make when he starts
Speaker 3: making it. And yeah, I think I think that's the
Speaker 3: kind of person I would want and charge someone who
Speaker 3: has that strong vision and then also has a good
Speaker 3: grasp on the reality of actually making a vision vision
Speaker 3: come to life, because that's where a lot of that
Speaker 3: stuff gets lost.
Speaker 2: Fantastic next email comes from Matt k and this may
Speaker 2: tickle Mike's fancy here Matt writes in about Star Trek.
Speaker 2: First off, I fucking love you all. Going through an
Speaker 2: extraordinary rough patch right now, and every one of you
Speaker 2: is feeding my heart. Now, why the fuck aren't we
Speaker 2: drowning in Star Trek game? How has Telltale never taking
Speaker 2: up the ip. It's just sitting there in RBG, a
Speaker 2: grid retyle for jan Base tactics game, a city builder,
Speaker 2: a third person adventure game. Anything, we have nothing. So
Speaker 2: it's the deal. There's so much potential. Your concert listener, Matt, Kay.
Speaker 4: You know what's funny is I forget if it was
Speaker 4: actually tell Tale or of one of those, like many
Speaker 4: Telltale spinoffs or successors. They made a Start Trek game
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. It did not get very
Speaker 4: much pressed. Oh but that happened, and I heard some
Speaker 4: people say it's actually good. So look that up if
Speaker 4: you're interested in that. There's also like a Star Trek
Speaker 4: four X that happened a little bit ago that also
Speaker 4: went super under the radar, if it might even be
Speaker 4: by the stillaries people, right.
Speaker 5: So maybe try that.
Speaker 4: Star Trek's always been weird because it's such an omnipresent
Speaker 4: IP and it's a popularp that was a very passionate
Speaker 4: fan base, but it's never quite popular enough where people
Speaker 4: want to put like Star Wars Jedi Phone order.
Speaker 5: Money into one of those games something like that.
Speaker 4: Right, there's like a world where you make a mass
Speaker 4: effect style game, but it's just a Star Trek EP
Speaker 4: and it would be incredible, and instead we get, you know,
Speaker 4: Star Trek as a co op shooter, kind of like
Speaker 4: Gears of War, which I liked that game no one else,
Speaker 4: No one else did, though, I.
Speaker 3: Want to play that game about the one that you
Speaker 3: play through with your brother.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fun and stupid. It's stupid for sure, but
Speaker 4: it's kind of Yeah, it's kind of fun. I kind
Speaker 4: of want to go back because there's like say a
Speaker 4: Genesis and Super Nintendo Star Trek the next generation in
Speaker 4: the Space nine games play.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 6: Okay, so I had never seen Star Trek as a kid,
Speaker 6: but I'd seen all the Star Wars movies, and so
Speaker 6: I remember I went to my step grandparents house and
Speaker 6: they had a Super Nintendo and all they had was
Speaker 6: tiny tuons bust or Bust Loose, which I loved, and
Speaker 6: these two Star Trek games for Super Nintendo.
Speaker 5: One of them was like.
Speaker 6: Starfleet Academy or something, and like, not knowing anything about
Speaker 6: Star Trek, I was like, okay, cool, I've seen space action.
Speaker 6: This is gonna have laser swords and guns and cool shit.
Speaker 6: And you play it and like you literally are in
Speaker 6: like an academy learning how to be a Star Trek guy.
Speaker 6: And then when you go down on the planet or whatever,
Speaker 6: you're like walking around to computer terminals and it like
Speaker 6: dissuades you from attacking things. And it's like all I
Speaker 6: knew about video games is like you just kill your enemies,
Speaker 6: and like this was having me read and not be violent,
Speaker 6: and I was.
Speaker 5: Very confused as a child. And that's the thing with
Speaker 5: Star Trek.
Speaker 4: It's the best when there can't be action in Star Trek,
Speaker 4: and the movies always beer into that more, but it
Speaker 4: is usually it's the best when it's not about that.
Speaker 3: But that's why a Telltale game actually makes sense for that,
Speaker 3: because it's like you want to make faced with like
Speaker 3: challenging choices.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you want to be doing like difficult diplomacy
Speaker 4: and philosophy and explorations and science stuff, right, Like there's
Speaker 4: so much too, Star Trek. That's always been difficult to
Speaker 4: make one kind of game, and they succeeded, right, Like
Speaker 4: they did make a Star Trek first person shooter, a
Speaker 4: Star Trek Voyager Elite Force, and it was Raven Software
Speaker 4: back when they were very good that kind of stuff, right,
Speaker 4: Like they did Jedi Outcasts and that game rules.
Speaker 5: The Leaf Force is fantastic.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a shooter, but it's a very fun
Speaker 4: one with all the Star Trek flavors that it has.
Speaker 5: There's good Star Trek games out there.
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're ever going to get that
Speaker 4: kind of ideal, perfect Star Trek game that we've always.
Speaker 5: Wont especially right now.
Speaker 4: Star Trek's weird because it's both thriving because there's a
Speaker 4: lot of shows, but also kind of in a weird place.
Speaker 4: I think that section thirty one movie is going to
Speaker 4: do poorly. That direct the video one that seems very
Speaker 4: dark and strange. So I don't know, I used to
Speaker 4: be such a Star Trek guy.
Speaker 5: Friends. Yeah, I kind of maybe need to catch up
Speaker 5: and get back into it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we Surgeon came out. The Surgeons came out last year.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just came out last year and I thought
Speaker 4: I should play it because it is very next generation code.
Speaker 4: That's definitely what I'm the next generation in Deep Base nine.
Speaker 4: Those are my big Star Trek highlights.
Speaker 2: One day I'll get into track Mike one day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to do a D based nine podcast.
Speaker 2: Some day.
Speaker 4: We can do next generation podcasts that be next generation,
Speaker 4: next generation.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, see Deef's space.
Speaker 2: Mitch jan.
Speaker 5: Works on that one.
Speaker 2: Next email comes from Phil and Calgary. Hey guys, it's
Speaker 2: a Mount Rushmore dips.
Speaker 3: Oh rook, before you do that? Can we do a
Speaker 3: Star Trek Bridge Creuse stream?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the VR one.
Speaker 4: That game is actually really good. That actually is a
Speaker 4: very good startup game and one of the best VR games.
Speaker 2: Still.
Speaker 3: I think we have to like always make Dan the
Speaker 3: captain and just see what happens. Yeah, it'll go great,
Speaker 3: it'll go great.
Speaker 5: Uh, Barbecue Ranch or one and.
Speaker 2: Two barbecue I don't like, but I feel like ketchup
Speaker 2: has to be there.
Speaker 5: No, I barbecue ranch Buffalo.
Speaker 2: See, I think of buffalo as like a glaze than
Speaker 2: a dip.
Speaker 4: It can be a glaze, you know, like like what
Speaker 4: about like a buffalo chicken dip? Right, I don't have
Speaker 4: that that's a put the chicken.
Speaker 3: In the choke dip.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, French on Cao ranch caso, Buffalo said buffalo,
Speaker 4: So I mean no, no a buffalo ranch. No sorry,
Speaker 4: barbecue ranch, Buffalo Caso.
Speaker 3: Okay, Queso is a dip. That's a dip.
Speaker 4: That's a dip.
Speaker 3: I think the rest are sauces. Well you dip you
Speaker 3: dipping sauces though, yeah sure, but but but but if
Speaker 3: you're staying the mountain rushmore of dips and you put
Speaker 3: up a bunch of saucers, like.
Speaker 5: When you get nuggets, they ask you, like what dips
Speaker 5: you want, and you get the sauce I want.
Speaker 3: I think Okay, hummus is a dip. Yes, okay, I
Speaker 3: think Lolcamole is up there for sure. Okay, salsa.
Speaker 5: No chunks, no, I mean no chunks, of course it
Speaker 5: didn't no no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: With with salsa.
Speaker 6: I just put my chip in there. And if you
Speaker 6: don't get a curved chips, like, fuck it up. Just
Speaker 6: get a straight chip. You dip it in and you
Speaker 6: just want red wet, you don't want chunks.
Speaker 3: I hate everything. He just said. French onion dip is
Speaker 3: can we get that one on the never try to.
Speaker 2: Should we just try and like bring everyone together? Seven
Speaker 2: layer dip?
Speaker 5: Never try to? Never tried. There's too many. There's some
Speaker 5: weird stuff.
Speaker 4: And I like lasagna, but Lasia repeats layers, right, I
Speaker 4: think those are seven unique layers.
Speaker 5: In that I'm not trying seven.
Speaker 3: If you throw like a little bit of herbs and ranch,
Speaker 3: you can call it a ranch dip. So I'm willing
Speaker 3: to like getran ranch dip.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but rich always has herbs and were talking about.
Speaker 3: Right, I know, but there's like for the ranch dip.
Speaker 3: There's just they put more herbs in there. Mike, I
Speaker 3: don't know what you want from it. But I don't
Speaker 3: know what you want from it. It's just that they
Speaker 3: should be disqualified to this conversation. And everyone loved keso,
Speaker 3: so there are a lot of stuff out of this
Speaker 3: ebo and.
Speaker 5: I have been unimpressed.
Speaker 4: Pass fail brother, that's.
Speaker 5: That and everything.
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess the different schools in Kansas.
Speaker 2: Dan, you can definitely help out with his next email. Okay,
Speaker 2: this comes from Daniel from Long Beach. Hey, dudeers, it's
Speaker 2: my fortieth birthday next month, and I want to go
Speaker 2: to Disneyland and eat the foods I'm local, so I
Speaker 2: know my way around. We're good on that. My girlfriend
Speaker 2: and I want to Disney bound. So my question is
Speaker 2: what characters should we dress as if you.
Speaker 6: Have time functioning an adult, functioning adult in society.
Speaker 11: Just the guy who has to dip his chip into
Speaker 11: the salsa, right, doesn't get the chunks and weird, that's
Speaker 11: what adult.
Speaker 3: I literally get extra chunky salsa.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: Does that have extra red wet, isn't it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Where is your red wet isle? Can you show
Speaker 3: me where the.
Speaker 6: Chunks to get to the red wet? You don't get
Speaker 6: red wet without the chunks. You just don't eat the chunks.
Speaker 6: It's like the skin on the.
Speaker 3: Bree Oh my god, what wait the wax? I don't really.
Speaker 5: Oh, here's delicious cheese in the middle surrounding poison. No,
Speaker 5: that's not you could eat that ride It's fine.
Speaker 2: Red Wedding is my favorite Game of Thrones episode, by
Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, if you have the time, here's some
Speaker 2: characters we've already dressed up as. Captain Bucky Kyle Ren
Speaker 2: and Captain FAsMA, a hitchhiking ghost and hat box ghosts
Speaker 2: Mollficent and Dragon Mollificent. Love you guys and Dan definitely
Speaker 2: had the neurovirus at the end of last year, and
Speaker 2: not just some bad poops.
Speaker 3: No one around.
Speaker 6: We got sick and I ate a vat of weird
Speaker 6: meat and cheese. Thanks doctor, Doctor Disney bounding.
Speaker 2: Uh, Mike, you got any suggestions?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Uh Daniel Hay, mister Lee from Long Beach. Uh,
Speaker 4: God me gosh, there's so many possibilities. I think all
Speaker 4: the record ralph ones are always kind of cute, right, Uh,
Speaker 4: Venolope and Record Ralph even when they get fixed. Felix
Speaker 4: in there, you do Felix.
Speaker 2: No, you should do Record Ralph and Captain Felix because
Speaker 2: they are actually in a relationship not very healthy, and
Speaker 2: record Ralph there? I like it.
Speaker 4: Get weird? Do some Uh what would be a good?
Speaker 4: Like more obscure one? I mean at which the most.
Speaker 3: Racist Didney character goes that, Yeah, is there a song
Speaker 3: of the South one?
Speaker 5: Yeahs over great?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, a big hit?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would, I would. I would advise against it. Actually,
Speaker 4: Sonny Eclipse and Instruments as always go.
Speaker 2: As the rescuers. The two mice that's solved.
Speaker 4: Their names are Bernard and miss Bianca.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sorry. Says Ja Ja gavor yeh uh Eva
Speaker 2: Gabor is John.
Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's Josh, and I.
Speaker 4: Think no, we got it now with Bernard and miss Bianca.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's the correct answer.
Speaker 2: Good job, Jen, All right, there we go. Uh. Nextxt
Speaker 2: email comes from Pat in Quebec uh and Pat writes
Speaker 2: in about GDC, which is coming up. Pat writes, Dearest
Speaker 2: members of the Large Explosive Clan, I'll be going to
Speaker 2: GDC in San Francisco for the first time, and I'm
Speaker 2: looking for tips from local for some locals. What does
Speaker 2: he quit? Essentially San Francisco thing to experience for someone
Speaker 2: who will be there for a couple of days, Sea lions,
Speaker 2: floating prisons, quaint neighborhoods. I'm also a coffee weirdo. I
Speaker 2: sprits my beans and weigh my water. Pat, my guy, Uh,
Speaker 2: what coffee places would you recommend to such a weirdo?
Speaker 2: Pat from Quebec uh ps. I've also decided to engage
Speaker 2: in some virtual tourism research and then playing watchdogs too casually,
Speaker 2: which is set SF. It's been fun comparing and its
Speaker 2: representation of what the city is to my understanding of
Speaker 2: it based on snooping around on Google Maps. Also, this
Speaker 2: game depresses me as a lot of its subject matter
Speaker 2: is increasingly becoming reality these days.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about that. Was that the game where
Speaker 3: when they announced it, the guy was like I crying because.
Speaker 6: Of Like, no, you're thinking if you're thinking of Nate
Speaker 6: Fox during the infamous Second Sun reveal, okay from Sucker Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think this guy just came out. It
Speaker 3: was very intense about private security and stuff like that
Speaker 3: and your public yeah, your public presence online. So okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right. Yeah, I don't know. Hey, playing Watch Ducks
Speaker 3: too though, playing a game before you're going to the city,
Speaker 3: that is a good move.
Speaker 5: That was the That was one of the only times.
Speaker 6: It was the first time I was playing a game
Speaker 6: in the city I was living in, because I remember
Speaker 6: watching Talking Out while I lived there, and the same
Speaker 6: thing with Spider Man, Marvel Spider Man when I lived
Speaker 6: in New York, and like that one.
Speaker 3: You can imagine that happens to me every day with Cleveland.
Speaker 5: Oh, it was like World War two in the mid
Speaker 5: the World War everywhere games.
Speaker 2: Yes, I may regret offering this, but if you are
Speaker 2: going to GDC I don't know if I can just
Speaker 2: blindly throw in Tam and Lucy into this, but I
Speaker 2: will guide a tour group around, Oh my god, Jan
Speaker 2: and we will go around and have a fun time.
Speaker 2: We'll just consider it like a Giant Bomb community meet up.
Speaker 2: If you're going to GDC, all right, if you already
Speaker 2: live in the Bay Area, get fucked, okay, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take you to my favorite places, which are not
Speaker 2: any fantastic fun super duper places. If you're looking for
Speaker 2: the quintessential San Francisco experience, You're gonna have to buy
Speaker 2: a joint. You're gonna have to buy a burrito. I
Speaker 2: have to a dirty knife. No, accidentally get poked by
Speaker 2: needle on bart That's what it is. Please please and
Speaker 2: get into some Shenana jans. All right, Oh guys, y'all
Speaker 2: show you a good time.
Speaker 5: Baby, Tommy's joint, Tommy Tommy's joint.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, right, Yes, get some Tommy's rum punch Jeffortaria
Speaker 2: style meat.
Speaker 5: Just yeah. Are you gonna go to the Walt Disney
Speaker 5: Family Museum?
Speaker 2: Yeah you go, okay?
Speaker 4: Well, Contraz is cool.
Speaker 2: Alcatraz is cool. Makes you think of the rock Yeah, Honestly,
Speaker 2: the faery building is very pretty. You should go there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, the cheesecake factory that Jeff and I like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you can go there. You know you
Speaker 2: have to. Yeah, Okay, I'll show you a good time.
Speaker 2: I'll show you good time.
Speaker 3: I'll come up.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to join the jam tour group
Speaker 2: at GDC this year, I'll make an excel sheet have
Speaker 2: some fun places for you to go to, and I'll
Speaker 2: include if you don't drink or smoke or want to
Speaker 2: have a fun time. All right. Last email of the
Speaker 2: show comes from Jordan Jay from Chicago.
Speaker 3: Folks, you're gonna skip this email where so once they
Speaker 3: fuck with you? To me, that's the most that's nicest,
Speaker 3: same thing that ever said. You don't have to read it.
Speaker 3: I'm just joking. Please keep going, all right.
Speaker 2: Well, Alison from Alabama had said in their email, PS,
Speaker 2: Jeff Grubb, I fuck with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go Allison?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 5: Uh, Like you read the PPS on that one real
Speaker 5: quick too.
Speaker 3: PPS.
Speaker 2: I can never remember how to pronounce ahago, so I
Speaker 2: just pronounce call it asciago instead.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I read that.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is important, It's really good.
Speaker 2: Uh. First off, Jan, Nikki and Tam y'all good after
Speaker 2: hearing you explain yadada mean to the rest of the crew,
Speaker 2: I was concerned for the level of whiteness and your surroundings.
Speaker 2: These words I am not allowed to say parentheses. Fellas
Speaker 2: are so translucent you can see the mayo they ate
Speaker 2: for lunch.
Speaker 3: All right, Lauram, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nikki is the only one that can say that word.
Speaker 2: They're saying it in chat.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: They got you playing frisbee golf. Yet I'm trying to
Speaker 2: see some brown activities in this bush, and I mean,
Speaker 2: what call that hockey shit?
Speaker 5: Agreed?
Speaker 2: Anyways, I rank them based on whiteness, Oh sweet. Number
Speaker 2: four Jeff Grubb is so white. He is down nothing
Speaker 2: better than his self aware white. He's a neighbor that
Speaker 2: winds up at cookouts and birthday parties. We need Jeff Grubbs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's happened for sure.
Speaker 2: Number three Mike Manatti is so white it's cute. He
Speaker 2: can't help it and he can't deny it. Real talk.
Speaker 2: Do he like chocolate? Because I see my man laid
Speaker 2: up with a beautiful black queen passa to each other
Speaker 2: a top of a lotta bed sheets.
Speaker 4: Hell, yeah, black folks, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Black folks love Italian food and they'll eat that
Speaker 2: Disney bullshit up too. I'm trying to get my boy.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see my boy get Hella Nasty and
Speaker 2: add Mike Methadi to the aliases.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, I just read the next one.
Speaker 2: I have to die Number two Jeff Baklar coworker number one.
Speaker 2: They bespelt your name Dan Dan Riiker. Shit, I don't know, man.
Speaker 2: There's so many dance stories he tells, and not even
Speaker 2: halfway through I think I would have been shot. He
Speaker 2: is the type of guy to go to the South
Speaker 2: Side and either get his pockets ran or escorted out
Speaker 2: of the hood by a top hitter. Dude is white
Speaker 2: Jesus with severe ADHD. You'll either bring forth doom incarnate
Speaker 2: or trip into the solution to the world's many issues.
Speaker 2: I love the show. You all bring something unique to
Speaker 2: the show. It keeps me engaged in knowledgeable, Stay safe,
Speaker 2: Stay up, Stay safe. Jordan J from.
Speaker 3: Chicago, Jordan Jay, you have just crushed it.
Speaker 4: You take Look.
Speaker 6: Mike can't say his favorite rapper is Lynn Manuel Miranda
Speaker 6: and not definitely.
Speaker 9: Jo said that not that, buts and cracks.
Speaker 4: Uh labar what Lamar?
Speaker 3: Lamar Lamar?
Speaker 5: Who almost said Kyle Lamar?
Speaker 2: Kendrick lamarck.
Speaker 3: This I regret trying to defend him. Sorry, everybody you like.
Speaker 2: Oh man, oh my god, I'm it's cute. It is
Speaker 2: now my dream to make Mike Manati's description happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want this to be real.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. God, remind us to when we do our our
Speaker 3: catch up with the with the Jeff backlaw on voicemail
Speaker 3: dump truck. We got to remind him of what is
Speaker 3: the co worker. I don't get the coworkers, like if
Speaker 3: you have a black friend and they think of their
Speaker 3: the white co worker as just coworker.
Speaker 5: I was wondering if there's more to it than that. Okay,
Speaker 5: it's just that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, No, he is coworker and I've gone
Speaker 3: on with my life now.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh boy, thank you Jordan for for a
Speaker 2: fantastic email. Oh god, thank god I wasn't lumped in
Speaker 2: with the whites. I want to know where Lucy ranks
Speaker 2: on this list. Frankly, Oh yeah, bumps it up right right? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a different kind though, right, different kind.
Speaker 3: Different more white than white. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 5: I haven't been shot more.
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Uhanta white, Yes, thank you, signed Guy Bovesy.
Speaker 3: That's what she waits.
Speaker 2: Is there no white?
Speaker 3: No, it's not no, it's like instead of vanta black,
Speaker 3: which is like that black, the blackest black color that
Speaker 3: they've ever created. Yeah, Fanta white.
Speaker 2: Oh man. I like, I don't know if y'all ever
Speaker 2: came across this on TikTok, but there was a hot
Speaker 2: minute where uh, there were these before and after photos
Speaker 2: of like before my black girlfriend or before my black wife,
Speaker 2: and it was generally a glow up because a white
Speaker 2: dude would just go from schlubby to having style and
Speaker 2: god damn do I need to see there with Mike
Speaker 2: naughty anyway? That wraps it up for emails, gents. When
Speaker 2: we learned this week, I learned that one the mic,
Speaker 2: one of the Minati brothers, stole from an establishment and
Speaker 2: we are now harboring a criminal. We've learned to not
Speaker 2: mess with or derail the gravy train. We're gonna We're
Speaker 2: gonna be okay from now on double dipping. We've also
Speaker 2: learned to not fall into the arquette hole. The floor
Speaker 2: is worked, Ntenda can still be weird and that's okay.
Speaker 2: We also learned that Mike is the best Mario player,
Speaker 2: and we also learned about red wet and folks take
Speaker 2: away from that which you will red wet, red wet everything,
Speaker 2: red wet your chips, red wet your other dipping foods
Speaker 2: of choice, folks, Folks. This week we got a game
Speaker 2: Miss Morning's popping off for the rest of the week Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 2: Check out Bowser's Hurry from last week. It was a
Speaker 2: very fun time. We were raising money for the LA
Speaker 2: wildfire relief. I don't know if that donation week is
Speaker 2: still active, but hey shots, ats to y'all for watching
Speaker 2: and hanging out with us. We were able to raise
Speaker 2: sixty five hundred dollars and blast past our goal several times. Folks.
Speaker 2: If you're looking for the conclusion of term dan Nator
Speaker 2: record of the Machines, I got to edit some parts
Speaker 2: out or else YouTube will continue clapping us. I uploaded
Speaker 2: a version and YouTube still said it was not enough
Speaker 2: because I left the audio in.
Speaker 3: So someone did mentioned having Mike recreate those scenes, so
Speaker 3: we can just have them do that for you and
Speaker 3: you can splice those in, oh boy, and.
Speaker 2: Then speaking about Blake Club tomorrow, Dan, you got a
Speaker 2: new blight.
Speaker 6: I'm holding Drake of the ninety nine Dragons game. I've
Speaker 6: never played. I have never seen an action. I've heard
Speaker 6: it's great, So I don't know why we picked it
Speaker 6: for this or why Alex Navarro picked it, grub.
Speaker 4: I got a wig in the mail, Is that all
Speaker 4: I need?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: There should be like a leather duster coming as well.
Speaker 3: Then you need to wear oh and a let's call
Speaker 3: it a shirt. Yeah, I guess that's what it is,
Speaker 3: a shirt, and then there should wear the leather pants
Speaker 3: that you had for termin it term donator.
Speaker 6: Okay, if they do not arrive today or tomorrow, should
Speaker 6: I just do leather pants.
Speaker 5: In the wig and get moving?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well keep what's holding up the mail?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 3: It should be like I ordered it right away all
Speaker 3: the same time there today.
Speaker 6: No matter what, we will start this tomorrow. I could
Speaker 6: wear the terminator jacket needed. Uh so yeah, that is
Speaker 6: starting tomorrow. And then once I'm done with this game,
Speaker 6: I'm off Blake Club playing duties for a full go round.
Speaker 6: I think we're doing the biking round right after that.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Also, stay tuned this week beat for BCR. We will
Speaker 2: be doing twenty twenty five Fantasy Critic Draft with the
Speaker 2: whole gang who won.
Speaker 5: Twenty four.
Speaker 3: Records were lost. There was a fire.
Speaker 2: How did I know? Wait?
Speaker 6: How was it that Mike won a one off stream
Speaker 6: and got to give us all punishments? And I want
Speaker 6: a year long battle and I got nothing?
Speaker 3: Okay, you're not wrong. We definitely need to find something
Speaker 3: that the winner should get.
Speaker 2: It's just not.
Speaker 5: Retroactively like a get out of jail free cart, no club.
Speaker 3: It's just a dumb thing you said.
Speaker 5: No, I mean for last year, like a retroactive like
Speaker 5: I need. I need just Benmomi, are you gonna.
Speaker 3: Gave up? But just money?
Speaker 2: Uh? Also, Dan, I think you were the one that
Speaker 2: decided we should give out punishments.
Speaker 5: So yeah, and I stand by that, But I should
Speaker 5: have won something. Oh Jeff, what are you playing Griffin Dango?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I got it downloaded. I want to stream it.
Speaker 3: I do, so I will have to find time to
Speaker 3: do that. I'll probab. I'll probably try to start.
Speaker 2: This week though.
Speaker 3: That would be excellent.
Speaker 5: Cool Okay, Well, yet, love folks should have lost it sounds.
Speaker 2: Fun, folks. That does it for this week's BombCast. Despite
Speaker 2: the state of the world being on fire, know that
Speaker 2: we are here for you, trans writes, God damn it,
Speaker 2: We'll see a week four another episode of the Giant bombcas.
Speaker 2: I've been Jan, he's been Jeff, he's been Dad, he's
Speaker 2: been biking. You at home, I've been doing Okay, go
Speaker 2: drink some water, but go outside, Go learn a trade, perhaps, go.
Speaker 1: Contribute to the world in a positive way. Punch someone
Speaker 1: in the face that should be punched, not just cuz
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Also, don't don't.
Speaker 3: Report Chris Manatti.
Speaker 2: He's a father. Goddamn it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, leave him alive, leave him alone.
Speaker 5: Fine, I was joking that did it happen?
Speaker 3: Oh, there you go. He was joking.
Speaker 5: Counselor, coworker, coworker,