WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:31.039 Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, January twenty first, twenty twenty five. 2 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:35.359 Welcome to the Giant BombCast, Episode eight hundred and seventy four. 3 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:38.679 I am your host, Jen Ochoa. 4 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:42.920 I also have zero fear up in this house, joining 5 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:44.280 me co captain of the Ship. 6 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:49.320 He's strutting into the podcast actively. He's got a fantastic 7 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:51.560 mask on and he's yelling at the top of his 8 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:54.000 longs jeegrun. 9 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.000 I am just saying that logically, every person who knows 10 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:01.039 about Persona does know about Metal g but not everyone 11 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:03.759 that knows about metal Gear knows about Persona. So if 12 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:05.200 you just think about it. 13 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:09.959 That's right, that's right. And he uh, joining us as 14 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:17.680 always bad boy of games media playboy pog slammer my Minati. 15 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:22.120 Who it's me. It's Mike Minaughty. I'm doing great. Nobody 16 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:23.799 was mean to me on the internet lately. 17 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:24.640 How about you, Jeff? 18 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:30.239 Shoot, no, dang it. No, they definitely are. 19 00:01:33.200 --> 00:01:36.359 Man in the podcast world. He is not in Ray 20 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:45.319 Mysterio Shadow. We have turn Riker. Yeah, he get people 21 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:45.719 mad at you. 22 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:52.319 Yeah, I'm just I'd be myself usually. 23 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.400 Really Yeah, all right, you seem worse for wear. 24 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:58.040 Yeah, li'sten I'm all right, yeah, it's pretty easy to 25 00:01:58.079 --> 00:01:59.719 toune now, Like I wasn't even think about it, and 26 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:01.560 then my brought it up. Really, I'm mad at Mike. 27 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.480 Possibly because I don't mind people do it to me. 28 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:08.159 I get very upset when these fucking shots. Sorry, but 29 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:10.479 I really don't like them do their thing with Jeff. 30 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:11.319 So sorry. 31 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:13.680 Mike's very protective of his boy and I, but he 32 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:14.719 touches my gravy train. 33 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:15.800 I mean, my best friend. 34 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.280 I have a question. What is a gravy train? 35 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.560 Is that like when people you're in the money, but 36 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:27.919 what is it? Okay, yes, but excellent point. What was 37 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.599 it before we started using it as like you know. 38 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:35.960 Okay, it's like a sushi boat thing right, like where 39 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:38.039 it's like, now here comes the gravy train to grab 40 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:39.479 the gravy white while it's here. 41 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:42.919 It's gravy from the gravy capital of the world wherever 42 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.360 that is via train literally, and when it comes in 43 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:48.479 it's a big deal because it's like, oh, we're going 44 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:50.240 to sell the gravy. 45 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:52.000 It would be. 46 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:55.039 No, no, I don't think so. 47 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.400 I wanted to be well in the way that we're 48 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.599 using it today. Dan, it's a metaphor. That's the way correct. 49 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.199 I understand that, right, but the etymology of it. 50 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.199 The last time I heard that term was I had 51 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.719 just started the WAE and I had to call Scott 52 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.479 Hall to get him ready for a we're gonna have 53 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:14.879 him and Nash on the podcast because they're gonna put 54 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.120 the nWo in the Hall of Fame. And I called 55 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:19.439 He's like, I'm gonna tell you right away. I fucking 56 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.280 hate podcasts. I don't want to do this fucking podcast. 57 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.680 Only reason I'm doing it is because they're gonna put 58 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:26.400 me in the Hall of Fame the second time. And 59 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:28.680 I'm not gonna do anything to fuck up that gravy train, 60 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:32.680 so I'm not gonna say shit, alright, this is gonna 61 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:35.439 be a great episode. No show did, and Nash had 62 00:03:35.439 --> 00:03:37.840 to text him like thirty minutes and show yeah. 63 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.719 Oh yeah, funny enough. That's what we all say to 64 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.360 each other before starting any podcast, right, it's the gravy train. 65 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.439 I now want to start an American food chain like 66 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:51.879 Greb said, where it's sushi boats, but it's just a 67 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:52.520 gravy train. 68 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.639 Yeah yeah, just a little toy trains going around with 69 00:03:55.680 --> 00:03:58.759 like you know, overflowing gravy. 70 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.319 Like do you have like bread and as the boats 71 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:03.680 you can dip and then you don't even have to 72 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:05.919 worry about the gravy as it goes right. 73 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.960 And then it's like you can't you physically could not 74 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.240 double dip. I suppose you could double dip into the 75 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.000 next solve double dipping. 76 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:16.399 Yes, I don't care about double dipping. I'm fine by now. 77 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:18.480 And you know what, I don't really care that much either, 78 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.759 but I care enough when I'm around other people. I 79 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:23.279 am impressed that you don't care. At your house when 80 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:25.120 people are around, You're like, no, I'm double dipping. This 81 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:25.600 is my stuff. 82 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:27.079 But I've never thought about double dipping. 83 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:29.759 I think as long as you say, hey, I'm gonna 84 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:33.439 double dip, then that's fine. Yeah, like the unsolicited double 85 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.240 dip to the universe. Yeah, hey, is this. 86 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:39.519 An actual Phoenix down moment? Or does everybody else never 87 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.759 realize this? Because uh so, I was thinking about Tony 88 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:48.240 Hawk a lot, specifically Tony Hawk's Underground and the bad 89 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:52.040 guy in that game is named Eric Sparrow, And only 90 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:55.959 like yesterday I realized those are two birds deemed last names. 91 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.439 I did not get that either. 92 00:04:58.199 --> 00:04:59.639 It is one of those things where it's like, I 93 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:02.879 definitely you have realized it multiple times in my life 94 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:04.920 because I keep forgetting it's like, oh yeah you do, 95 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.720 Eric Sparrow, So this last time, no, I was aware. 96 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:10.959 I mean I didn't get miles per hour until I 97 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:12.759 was working a game Informer and Tim Terurry made a 98 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:13.279 reference to it. 99 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.079 Yeah, I was like, thirty, See I got that one 100 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:19.720 because the cartoon brought it up. Specifically, you need. 101 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.399 To bring things up otherwise it's hard to understand that. 102 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:25.600 Yeah, sure, yeah, that's that's what we do on podcasts. 103 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:26.920 We do nothing but bring things up. 104 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:29.920 Yeah, it's just it's a bring things up mechanism. It's 105 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:30.480 the whole thing. 106 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.040 Yeah, we're not yes ending here, we're bring things up 107 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.240 in yeah yeah, yes and then pivoting. By the way, 108 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.680 what's that final Fantasy seven rebirth concert? 109 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:40.720 Did I ask for what you guys were doing yet? 110 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:42.040 Yeah, we're not there yet. 111 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.120 That No, I just I didn't realize that was unstructure 112 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:46.680 of this show. 113 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.319 Do you know that I always saw people just started 114 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:50.240 bringing ship up. 115 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.560 I didn't realize that. Like a first, I was, yes, 116 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:56.839 what do we do this type he does? 117 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:01.519 If he doesn't he doesn't want to yes, and us. 118 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:04.079 But he's gonna bring things up all the time. I 119 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.279 was always talk about it. 120 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:10.279 Why are you gonna change this? Talk about it? Just talking? Yeah, 121 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:11.639 it was great and. 122 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:24.519 That's actually the jingle premiering. Uh, Mike, I'm sorry for 123 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:27.920 cutting you off. I now apologize you do you? I 124 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.759 never feel free to bring stuff up. 125 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:33.879 Didn't Chris Bnadi get in a fight? What? 126 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:34.199 No? 127 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:35.800 Something? 128 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:41.279 It was fun. Chris was on something. But it's it's 129 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.879 so funny on something. No, not like medically. 130 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.000 Creationally. Yeah, it being my two brothers tripp to Cleveland. 131 00:06:50.040 --> 00:06:51.800 It's so funny with them because you know, like to that. 132 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:53.639 To me, it's like, yes, it's fun. To them, it's like, 133 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:57.079 oh my god, I'm getting away from the kids. Like 134 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:59.519 you know, they love their kids, but it's very exciting 135 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.279 to have them come up and ask, you know, for 136 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.480 a glass of water or for fifteen other things every 137 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.439 two minutes, so they get very excited. We went to 138 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:13.879 a teeki bar first in Cleveland called Porko, which by incredible, 139 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:17.680 big shout outs to Porko. Amazing drinks. There's some nice 140 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.399 small plates. They are very good. Charisa sliders at Porko. 141 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.480 But yeah, Chris was just Chris was having a good 142 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.639 time I own. To be clear, Chris normally the closest 143 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.040 thing I know to an angel, honor of just a 144 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:34.240 very sweet boy. Chris Bennati, super nice, not at all 145 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:39.759 like me, right, not a devilish little not the Chris 146 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:43.959 is a good boy. But yeah, we were at most 147 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:48.759 We're at a certain German they restaurant, sitting at the bar, 148 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.279 and Chris disappears for a bit. He had already he's 149 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:54.199 already just being very goofy. Right. In fact, you saw 150 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.560 on the menu the word like like wiener Art, right, 151 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:58.879 because it was like the name of food. 152 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:00.879 He thought that was very. 153 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:07.439 Funny, very excited about wiener Art. They disappeared for a 154 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.439 bit and he came back and he was wearing like 155 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:13.680 a Gandolf the gray hat with the restaurant's logo on it. 156 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:18.600 And we're like, hey, Chris, that's interesting. He's like hah yeah. 157 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:23.800 Then everyone's like especially because it's free ha, Like like Chris, 158 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:27.000 why is it? That's a joking. Later we're walking to 159 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.519 the concert, he doesn't get like, Chris, did you steal 160 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:39.519 this hat? He was like, yes I did, oh yeah, 161 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.960 But he's like, look I tried to buy it and 162 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:42.879 there's nobody there. 163 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:47.919 Doesn't mean you, I know, court in the land, Jan 164 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:49.279 would convict this man. 165 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:51.159 All right. I mean, Chris Manati is an angel as 166 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:52.519 far as I'm concerned. 167 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.360 I wonder if he wants me to share the story. 168 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.639 Jeff asked, how was it going? 169 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.600 Did you see the headlines? Just says the Manati brothers 170 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:03.799 got into a fight. So now that's all it's gonna 171 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:04.240 be about. 172 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:05.279 Man, that is not. 173 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:07.759 No. 174 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:10.039 We we just laughed at him a lot. He was 175 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:14.720 getting having a good time. It's fine, have you I 176 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:19.399 know you haven't. No, I don't think so. I don't 177 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.720 think so. Chris was the one who was like athletic, 178 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:23.960 but he has even less of a killer instinct than 179 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:25.960 the rest of us, so he didn't get too far. 180 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.440 Sporting killer, I think is one way to put it. 181 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.879 Yeah, yeah, right, So, yeah. 182 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.919 Mike, out of your three brothers, who is the muscle. 183 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:39.120 I mean, I guess Chris, which is the problem because it's, 184 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:41.480 you know, a sweet boy. He would have heard a fly, 185 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:44.159 but he's definitely has the most muscle. 186 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.600 Are you the brains or are you the heart? I'm 187 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:55.519 the goober, Yeah, the one most important? Yeah, goo guys somewhere. 188 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.240 I didn't mean to start the podcast on a damper bike. 189 00:09:58.320 --> 00:09:59.840 Kind of need a Googer transplant. 190 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.639 Oh sorry, buddy, I got extra. 191 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:07.320 Turkey. 192 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:09.559 Yeah, what what is AJ? Then Mike. 193 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:16.360 The order brother, he's the he's the driver. He loves 194 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:17.919 the dry. 195 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:19.759 All right, another important organ. 196 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:23.320 Yeah, he's mostly he's the most responsible one, kind of annoyingly. 197 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:25.759 He loves following the rules, and Jeff knows that I 198 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.600 love following the rules, right, Yeah, yeah, I think Dan 199 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.960 learned this too recently. A j loves the rules so much, 200 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:35.879 gets gets very anxious if we start breaking them up. 201 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:36.080 Bit. 202 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:38.600 Luckily, he had also been drinking, so he mostly found 203 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:42.720 Chris's theft funny. But yeah, shout out to my brothers. 204 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.120 We had a good time at the foul Fancy Civic. 205 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:47.440 Culture where so music was good. 206 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:49.159 Yeah, so I would be clear at this Fall Fantasy 207 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:50.639 seven concert, we stole nothing. 208 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:54.279 Okay, you would never steal from the Square Inex Corporation. 209 00:10:54.360 --> 00:10:57.080 No, no, no, the restaurant that you know charges you 210 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:58.159 twenty bucks for a beer or whatever. 211 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:01.600 That's fine, but yeah, go live? Yeah, uh are you 212 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:02.159 fucking me off? 213 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:03.879 Jeff? Are you really mad about the theft. 214 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:04.960 Oh is that what? Oh? 215 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:10.480 No, no, Yeah, the concert was fantastic. 216 00:11:10.759 --> 00:11:13.000 It was just specifically songs from Seven Rebirth. 217 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.200 They played my favorite, that's that fight's song with the 218 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:19.639 Valkyrie in it, just like you know, flowed really well. 219 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:21.480 They do the thing where they play all these montage 220 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:23.759 from the game, which the you know, it's like you 221 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:25.679 know that means cutscenes, but a lot of times it 222 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.639 just means the battle stuff without the UI. I'm like, man, 223 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.080 this fight system looks so good. I would have played 224 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:34.720 more fancy seven Rebirth or Remaker, hopefully that third one 225 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:37.399 at some point. It's Stanley long E merch line, which 226 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.320 you know, like mel Gibson said, where the real money 227 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:44.159 from the movie is made, right, That's right. 228 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.000 God constantly thinking of mel Gibson. 229 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.159 I'm constantly thinking of me. The Schwartz be with you. 230 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:49.759 Yeah. 231 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.960 Yeah, concert was fantastic. We just had a great trip 232 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.759 in Cleveland in general. I know, Jeff, you're doing some 233 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:57.879 some some some family stuff. Oh you had a good 234 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:58.960 time though. Yeah. 235 00:11:59.000 --> 00:11:59.200 Yeah. 236 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.279 It was the kid's birthdays. We did some stuff like that. 237 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.000 It was a good time. Yeah. Yeah. We just got 238 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:07.240 a bunch of presents and got Dan's weather became our weather. 239 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.519 So it was getting cold, and it's gotten colder. 240 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:11.440 Is it negative thirty three, because that's what it was 241 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:12.000 last night? 242 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:13.120 Is that the real feel? 243 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:17.799 Or actually the shoot was negative eighteen? The fields like negative. 244 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:19.600 We are getting there. We're getting pretty close. We're like 245 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.960 negative nine right now. And uh and it's supposed to 246 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:25.919 get colder, like they canceled school today and tomorrow because 247 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:26.720 of the of the cold. 248 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:28.720 But what did I actually say instead of mel Brooks? 249 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:30.360 I'm sorry mel Gibson. 250 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.879 Yeah, I was wondering you always, and then were. 251 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:35.679 Bringing up base balls, and I was like, I had 252 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.440 spent a long time since the host baseballs, But I 253 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.679 don't remember mel Gibson in that. 254 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.759 That's funny. Sorry, Jeff continued, No, it's all right. 255 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:45.559 It was fun. We had We had cake and pie 256 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.200 and other various frivolities. 257 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.480 It was a good time, lovely, lovely. 258 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:51.159 Uh. 259 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:54.440 I guess this is kind of related to playing. But yo, 260 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.679 I went to a top golf over the weekend to 261 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:01.000 celebrate a friend's birthday. We should go, Oh, yes, we 262 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:01.440 should go. 263 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:02.879 It's just a good time, right, I would do that. 264 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:08.919 Yeah, I had no idea that they had games, and yeah, 265 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.440 they have sonic, they have angry birds. I'm terrible at it, 266 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:16.080 but I eventually got the hand of it. Good time, 267 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.399 Good time. Also, it's a fun little mini game to 268 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:22.720 try and hit the person driving the little cart around 269 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:23.639 collecting all the ball. 270 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:26.679 That is an incredibly like It's just like when they 271 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:28.679 put one of those flies on the inside of a 272 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:31.279 yarnal to try to get guys to aim better. It's 273 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:32.039 that for golf. 274 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.320 Are they protected, like do they have helmets and stuff 275 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:35.480 they get there's like a cage. 276 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:38.840 Oh okay, okay, I wouldn't want to, Like, I'm not. 277 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:40.039 Trying to murder something. 278 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:40.840 I don't do that. 279 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.679 No, of course not. I j. 280 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:50.759 Bod I yes, I just like got so spiffy in there. 281 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:52.639 And you have like, you know, a waiter, and it's 282 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:54.919 just like you're playing these these fun games and you're 283 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:56.879 you know, drinking. Every once a while a nice person 284 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.159 comes up and asks you want more food or to drink. 285 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:00.000 It's just very pleasant. 286 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.559 It is very pleasant. 287 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.320 It's the ideal form of golf. I think, yes, oh absolutely. 288 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:07.440 Also, you know, I kind of this is just me 289 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.320 being foofye doofy, But like I take an issue with 290 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:12.759 golf courses taking up so much land, but like a 291 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:15.080 driving range that's perfectly for exactly. 292 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.279 Yeah, yeah, you put that like they're just gonna put 293 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:19.159 it in the parking lot that's already there, which is 294 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:21.679 something that's happening not too far from me. So I'm 295 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:22.600 pretty excited. 296 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:22.679 To tell you. 297 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.840 Yeah, there's already one in Cleveland on the other side. 298 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:27.080 Yeah, the other side of the city. Yeah. 299 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:29.159 Yeah, it's been there. It's very nice. We get time there. 300 00:14:29.159 --> 00:14:30.120 I definitely want to go back. 301 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.960 Yeah, but I think we'd have a ball of a time. 302 00:14:34.120 --> 00:14:39.480 Is that the phrase balls? But the thing that they 303 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:42.799 bring out of my mouth the mood down is the 304 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:47.159 people that go to top golf and take everything too seriously. 305 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:50.639 Yeah, it's funny people take even that seriously. That's incredible 306 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.759 pop golf. Yeah, there are a lot of there. You 307 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.320 know the floor we were at, because it's I guess 308 00:14:57.320 --> 00:15:01.600 most top golfs are like at least three floors. The 309 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:05.799 floor we were on several other birthdays celebrating, but then 310 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.039 like two groups next to us on either flanking our party, 311 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:14.559 they all brought their own clubs, and like it's eleven 312 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:16.759 o'clock in the morning, people are already getting a little 313 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.080 a little bit buzzed, and I'm like, y'all, y'all are 314 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:21.879 taking this too seriously. Y'all don't need to be wearing 315 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:26.960 your gloves and have cleats too. Fucking top literally don't 316 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:30.840 need cleats, that's the point, Like. 317 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:34.799 They would be destructive to the top golf. Actually, yeah, 318 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:37.879 I've never been. Can you walk me through? Like, so 319 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.759 you go there and they'll like just give you a 320 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:41.240 set of clubs? Do you have to rent them? Like 321 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:42.000 how do they work? 322 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:44.320 There's like a set of clubs, like just like how 323 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:47.039 bowling balls are to the side at a bowling alley, 324 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:49.120 and like they have the whole range that they got 325 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.759 drivers woods, nine irons to like whatever is the lowest 326 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.600 number of irons. And then they have two specific clubs 327 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:59.840 for for top golf itself, which are just like bigger 328 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:05.120 driver clubs. And then yeah, you just take turns, can you. 329 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:07.080 If it's a driving range, why would you go with 330 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.080 like a lower club, Well. 331 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:11.159 The driving range, you could practice any shot you want 332 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:12.720 for a closer one, ok. 333 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.840 Yeah yeah, yeah exactly, because you know they'll have targets 334 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:19.120 across the field for like you know, distance and stuff, 335 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:21.759 but they also have some closer targets in case you're 336 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:24.720 trying to work on your different swings now. But the 337 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.200 I don't understand the tech of it, and I'm assuming 338 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.759 each individual golf ball has some type of tracker on it. 339 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.600 Yeah, they all have some kind of yeah exactly hire 340 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:35.320 thing or whatever, because. 341 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.000 It's insane how like I will miss the ball and 342 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:39.799 I don't know where it went, and then like I'll 343 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:41.879 look at the screen below me of like, oh, it's 344 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:43.519 tracking it, and like, oh, it went over there. 345 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:44.120 That's cool. 346 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.679 But the Angry Birds implementation, it's like kind of goofy, 347 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:48.759 but it is very fun. 348 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:50.200 I was gonna ask, is there a thing like when 349 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:51.960 you get a strike or a spare and bowling and 350 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:54.440 there's like a fun like you know, anthropomorphic pins being 351 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:55.559 you know, acting out of skit. 352 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:56.519 Is there anything like that? 353 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:57.399 There should be? 354 00:16:58.320 --> 00:16:59.759 I really love that noise. 355 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.480 I watch animations like that for fun in my free time. 356 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:04.920 Yeah, that's my anime. 357 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:08.119 The top Golf is all the other sports too, right, 358 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.160 Like I want like baseball dry like like batty cage 359 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.839 version of golf, giant dart boards, like like human sized 360 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:16.680 dart boards. 361 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.359 Basketball thing. We're all just trying to make three point shots. 362 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:24.359 Right, yeah. Gun, Oh my god, I would let y'all, 363 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:32.920 uh yeah, gun human dart me like via catapult like mysterio. No. 364 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:35.720 I would wear like a velcrow suit and let y'all 365 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.240 like jump on a catapult to launch me onto like 366 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:40.359 a dartboard. I was. 367 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.160 We went to a a thing like it was the 368 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.240 last fourth of July. I can't remember, but they had 369 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:47.559 like a kid's play area and one of the things 370 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:50.200 was put on a velcrow suit and get launched up 371 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:50.720 at a wall. 372 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:51.039 Yeah. 373 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:52.440 And I waited a line for a long time. I 374 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:54.839 actually met a giant bomb fan in that in that line, 375 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:56.920 and uh, and just got the kid in there and 376 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.000 just basically just tossed her at a wall. She had 377 00:17:59.000 --> 00:17:59.920 a great time, loved to. 378 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:02.200 Did the GB fan bring their own velcro suit? 379 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.319 No? No, they weren't taking it quite as seriously as sum. 380 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:09.839 There was definitely some people getting very competitive. Yeah. 381 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:13.799 How's everything else going, gents? How we had a long weekend? Yeah? Yeah, 382 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:14.519 I feel rested. 383 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:17.200 It was necessary. Yeah, I don't know if I feel rustic. 384 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:18.640 So it's like one of those things where I'm like 385 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:21.279 I let things pile up over the holidays so bad 386 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.759 that I'm like still kind of unburying myself from that, 387 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:27.200 and it's causing like stress, so I feel like, oh, 388 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.440 if I try to relax, I feel bad. So trying 389 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:32.079 to get over that hump. But the three day we 390 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:33.799 can helped with that. A lot of that stuff is 391 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:36.240 mostly taken care of. So yeah, feeling good. 392 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:39.720 I had a day that was very I guess busy technically, 393 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.440 but very relaxing, and that they readed the tow up 394 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:44.279 the carpet and put some new floors in here, so 395 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:46.319 I had to come in here and like take everything 396 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:47.839 out and like it. It just turned into one of 397 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.200 those days where I sent the entire day going through everything, 398 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:53.559 like all of my boxes reor It's like, if I 399 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:55.039 got to take all this shit out of the room anyway, 400 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:56.880 I'm going to put everything together in the middle of 401 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:59.480 the floor, and I'm going to reorganize cables and game 402 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:01.799 collections stuff and make sure everything has a logic and 403 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:03.440 a rhyme and a reason to it. It's been all 404 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:05.359 fucking day doing that. At the end, it's like, Oh, 405 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:06.880 I just kind of know where everything is now and 406 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:08.160 it's not crazy spot. 407 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.480 Yeah that's great. I like everybody gets rid of carpet 408 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:12.240 for hardwood floor. 409 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:13.880 I have a room in my house that has like 410 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:17.079 a hard floor that I desperately want carpet in, and 411 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:18.920 I feel like I'm some kind of weirdo. 412 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:21.759 Carpet's an old thing now. I feel like people don't 413 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:23.680 like carpet anymore. I mean, like, but when you're looking 414 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:26.079 for houses and stuff, it's always like, yeah, like real 415 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:28.119 estate people are always like, oh, this is all hardwood, 416 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:30.240 this is allems. Like you can tear up the carpet, 417 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:31.960 you know, Like I think, like generally, why I. 418 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:33.880 Feel like a freak, Like why if I like, still 419 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:36.839 you are, yeah, you are, You're a pervert. Carpet's gross. Yeah. 420 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:39.720 People always put a rug on the hardwood floor, which 421 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:41.200 I have, and but this one back here I just 422 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.079 put down recently and it's so cozy and company the 423 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:45.440 kids came and like play on it. So yeah, I'm like, 424 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:47.960 you still get the benefit of like a nice. 425 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:49.279 So I don't want to talk about that anymore. 426 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:53.319 I wish that I like college football more because gosh, 427 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:57.799 Ohio State, he is winning things just right, Like gosh, 428 00:19:57.799 --> 00:19:59.359 I love all these other sports, but all the it's 429 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.240 always teams that lose all the time. Why don't I 430 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:03.079 just become an L s U fan, then I could 431 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:05.799 be happy when they do things like when yeah. 432 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:09.279 Is it is it like because you know Youngstown or 433 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:10.119 where'd you go to school? 434 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:11.319 You sound y s U? 435 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:13.319 Yeah team, but. 436 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:14.519 It was a different division. 437 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:16.680 No, no, of course, right. But it's like you guys 438 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:19.039 were just like just out of the orbit of Central 439 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:20.920 Ohio enough that you guys maybe weren't in. 440 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:24.039 It of people here, who are you fans? I'm always surprised. 441 00:20:24.079 --> 00:20:24.480 I don't know. 442 00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:29.359 I think I just kind of like don't respect college football. 443 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:32.559 Yeah, because they are they are getting paid, so they 444 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:34.880 aren't people. In Mike's opinion, there's always a little bit 445 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:35.119 of it. 446 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:38.680 It's like, oh, yeah, taking this really serious, right, It's 447 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:41.559 like I'm not going to the high school football game too, 448 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.200 but whatever, right, Like it's fine. 449 00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:47.160 Uh yeah, I don't know. 450 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:50.519 I guess I just rather get invested in the pro stuff, 451 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:55.119 even though the Browns are freaking terrible, but whatever, go Bucks. 452 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:55.559 I guess. 453 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:59.039 I lived right by the football stadium. It was where 454 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:02.160 my apartment was, and so Saturday, I think was game day, 455 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:05.839 and every Saturday I would fucking wake up hung over 456 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:07.759 because Friday night I'm out all night and I sleep, 457 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:09.720 don't set an alarm, and then I wake up. I'll 458 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:12.039 know it's football season because I wake up to a 459 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:15.880 formation of fucking jets flying over my apartment. I'm thinking 460 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:17.720 I'm getting bombed every Saturday morning. 461 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:22.319 Terrible, Yes, Jesus, yeah, yeah. How many times in your 462 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:24.559 lives you have? Have you, guys thought I think we 463 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:26.279 might be getting bombed a. 464 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:31.039 Lot because I live Because I live in California, I 465 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:34.079 feel like, you know, I'm closer than everyone else. 466 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:38.319 That's the thing that saves me is that I'm like, wait, oh, buddy, 467 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:39.559 what's to bomb this place? 468 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.279 When I was in Colorado, I wasn't far from Colorado 469 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.200 Colorado Springs, which is like strategically super important for a 470 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:47.000 lot of stuff. It's like where the Air Force is based. 471 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:51.000 And so there's definitely times where I would like hear 472 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:52.799 something like that is not a normal jet, and I 473 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:54.400 would look up and it's like, oh, that is a 474 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:56.880 stealth bomber. But I wouldn't think we were getting bombed, 475 00:21:56.880 --> 00:21:59.559 like they're going to bomb somebody. All right, cool, we're. 476 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.640 Good zero for me. I've never thought that you have 477 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:03.440 thought it? 478 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:06.400 No, just about it. I thought you said you just 479 00:22:06.759 --> 00:22:09.640 don't getting bombed. It just woke you just said in 480 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:10.160 the story. 481 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:12.759 Oh, because basically, shoot jetter flying over my house and 482 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:14.799 I was hungover. I didn't know I was discobopulated, So 483 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:17.240 you thought you were getting bombed, I was saying for 484 00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:19.920 comedic effect, I didn't shoot think I was getting bombed. 485 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.400 Mike, you lied to me anyway. 486 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:28.359 I Uh. I was at a at an album release 487 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:32.960 party on Friday, and I was feeling socially awkward. So 488 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:35.759 I went into the kitchen of the place and my 489 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:38.000 friend was there because he was working the kitchen, and 490 00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:40.400 then he just offers like, hey, jan you want some 491 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:41.240 jungle juice? 492 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:44.079 No. 493 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:46.599 Then I'm like, where where do you have this jungle 494 00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:49.519 juice stored? Friend? And he opens up the fridge and 495 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.079 it's a walking fridge, pulls out a giant vat, he 496 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.559 gets a comically large whisk to whisk it and then, oh, boy. 497 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:00.880 I don't know it's been a while speaking about hangover. 498 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.799 You don't you don't want to ever clear and that 499 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.720 he said that there was too much tequila in it. 500 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:13.200 Uh, and it was masked by all of the fruit juices. Yeah, yeah, 501 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:13.920 that sounds rough. 502 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:14.799 It's great. 503 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:35.440 Anyway, whatever, happened to tilaquilas in the cabinet, I think, Okay, 504 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:37.400 I wouldn't put it past. 505 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:45.079 Oh yeah, yeah, hey, speaking about descending back into madness. 506 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.319 I didn't get a chance to play too many things 507 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.119 over the break, but you know what I did see. 508 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:52.400 You know what I did play the game of witnessing people. 509 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.279 Go google Gaga for Pokemon cards. 510 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.200 Oh, we were at a shoot store. 511 00:23:57.359 --> 00:23:58.279 Yeah, what was the venue? 512 00:23:59.039 --> 00:23:59.839 A Costco? 513 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:04.680 Okay, so there's two kinds of sickos, Pokemon sicicos and 514 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:05.559 Costco sicicos. 515 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:10.680 Right, people have graduated from being like Target store stands 516 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:15.240 to Costco stands. It's very weird to see the production. 517 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.559 Do you think it's the Costco guys. I don't know 518 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:23.359 if it's related to the Costco guys. Yeah yeah, they're 519 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:27.720 definitely like patient zero of like the Costco craze. Maybe anyway, 520 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:29.759 you know, I'm just I'm just rolling up trying to 521 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:35.519 get my rotisserie chicken, and then the clock strikes eleven, 522 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.920 and then out of nowhere, I see a swarm of 523 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:45.119 what I can only politely describe as fucking nerds rolling 524 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:49.640 to this old man pushing a palette over, unwrapping it 525 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.599 in unwrapping the plastic. I'm like, what are these guys 526 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.319 like fawning over? And he has to like tell them 527 00:24:56.319 --> 00:25:01.839 to back up, and he's just saying limit to do. 528 00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.359 I mean, I am curious, like when you realized what 529 00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:06.200 was happening, So keep keep going with that in mind. 530 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:09.559 I was looking at like because they were long boxes, 531 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:11.960 and then I was thinking like, Okay, this isn't food, 532 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.480 this isn't clothing because why would people go to Costco 533 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:20.400 and like line up for clothing? And there were no 534 00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:23.440 samples of course, so I'm like, all right, what are they? 535 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.079 And then I started looking at the fucking nerds and 536 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:29.000 I'm like, this can only be for one thing. This 537 00:25:29.039 --> 00:25:30.039 can only be for one thing. 538 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:31.799 And then like. 539 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:36.359 They was. 540 00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:38.319 It was a stink line like. 541 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.400 A Golden Idol scene. 542 00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:45.720 Barber Jan talking about the new hat that Pokemon or 543 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:46.759 Pikachu has or whatever. 544 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:51.319 Yeah, they form a line, they queue up, and then 545 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.519 the first person in line there's a giant stack like 546 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:56.880 a palette of Pokemon cards, right, and I noticed that 547 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:01.079 what it is and he is I this whole stack 548 00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:05.480 from top to bottom, trying to like jenga Jenga piece 549 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:09.480 which one which two boxes he's gonna fucking take, and 550 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.960 then everyone behind him is groaning and yelling at him. 551 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:18.000 It's like, fucking get your cards. And the guy gets 552 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.920 his two cards, and then more people get their two 553 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.200 cards or two boxes of cards, and like I check 554 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.440 out and then I'm hanging out on the food court 555 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:30.759 eating my hot dog, and there were so many people 556 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.079 at self checkout at regular checkout with Pokemon cards and 557 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:39.119 I and it is the uh og one fifty one set, 558 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:42.119 which people are going wild for because it has like, 559 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:46.279 uh I think a very popular it's either it's probably 560 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.319 a Chargezard card, but I think it. There's also a 561 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.680 Blastois card. And I was just very thankful that I 562 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:54.119 was in one of these people. I think I've kicked 563 00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:54.559 the habit. 564 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:56.559 Yeah, I know, I've been many fun though. But he 565 00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:58.359 said it was a one fifty one set. I'm like, oh, 566 00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.519 that sounds pretty nice actually, but he was. 567 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.880 He was insane because so many people had camped out 568 00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:08.200 afterwards and gone to the food court, taken up all 569 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:13.519 the tables, not eating anything, taking up so much space 570 00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:15.440 for the people that are like trying to like have 571 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.000 a quick snack or meal with their family, and they're 572 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.319 like ripping open these cards. 573 00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:22.720 And just trying to wait to go home. 574 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.960 Huh, couldn't even wait to go home. And then and 575 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:28.599 then I saw a guy that I recognized that was 576 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:33.319 early in the queue come back around to uh to 577 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.160 check out, and then they told him like, no, man, 578 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.079 you can't, you can't buy them. You were a hit 579 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.680 your two two boxes per limit, and he was freaking out. 580 00:27:42.039 --> 00:27:44.480 Oh no, he was causing a scene. 581 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:52.480 Hell yeah, the average around. 582 00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.240 My age mid thirties, right, yeah, mid thirties. 583 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:54.559 So is this a nostalgia play? 584 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.160 Yeah, definitely, Yeah, yeah. I think I think of the 585 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:01.720 people that you're describing as they sound healthy and normal. 586 00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:05.480 Yeah, yeah, I will say I did see a couple 587 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:10.440 vapes afterwards, of people carrying their Pokemon cards and vaping afterwards. 588 00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.799 I'm just not smoking cigarettes, so yeah, help, Hey, things 589 00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.319 are going great across the board. What the hell? 590 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.640 Anyways, I felt like I should get a part time 591 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.279 job at Costco so I can pill for these cards, 592 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.720 just because I think it'd be hilarious. Also, like a 593 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:29.680 lot of them were. 594 00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:30.079 Uh. 595 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:37.079 One guy pulled out a scale for his cards to 596 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:37.519 weigh them. 597 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.200 Yes, like some packs weigh more if they have the 598 00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:41.799 right card. 599 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:46.920 Incredible, right because like I guess, the rarer cards are 600 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.240 a little thicker, right, the foil the foil, yes, so 601 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.519 that they were weighing cards. And then I swear to god, 602 00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:59.960 I saw so many eBay apps open just waiting to 603 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.519 also sell, like the whole boxes and everything, And there 604 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.920 were plenty of like parents that also just bought into 605 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:07.480 the hype. And you know, when you see a line, 606 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:10.000 you just go after it. Also, sure right, you don't 607 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.119 want to miss out? 608 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.279 Yeah, ah gosh. 609 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.279 I Pokemon cards are a problem. Just play the And 610 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.640 the thing is that that bugs me the most. I 611 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.880 bet you ninety percent of these people buying all these 612 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.240 boxes have no idea how to play the game. 613 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.599 Oh there was sure scalpers, right, which you know I do. 614 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:31.200 I like scalpers at least because they helped me feel 615 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:33.119 like I have a real job, which is something. 616 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.839 I remember that week that the PS three and the 617 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:39.680 we were coming out, they're like a week apart, and 618 00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.960 I was writing for the paper, and both nights that 619 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.680 they were coming out, like the night before I went 620 00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:46.359 to Walmart, went to best Buy, I went to Target, 621 00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.640 to all the lines and went down and was like, 622 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:50.680 I think I shot a video like interview and everyone asking, 623 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.440 and it was something like ninety eight percent of people 624 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.319 were there just to sell them on eBay, you know, 625 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.680 like they'd be like one guy at the front that's 626 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.799 like I'm just really excited about resistance, Like the rest 627 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:02.000 were just all selling them. 628 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.279 Well, talking about paper cards to paper Mario, Jeff Grubb, 629 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:09.519 you've been playing Paper Mario thee thousand Year Door, Yeah, 630 00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:09.920 I was. 631 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.599 I was thinking about my good friend Mike. You wanted 632 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:14.440 me to finish this game, and I'm like, you know what, 633 00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:16.519 I do enjoy it, why don't I go back there? 634 00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:18.680 And as soon as I picked it back up, it 635 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.039 was to get onto the train, which turns out to 636 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.440 be like kind of a mystery, a bunch of mysteries. 637 00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:26.680 There's a detective, and I'm like, well, had I known this, 638 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:31.400 I would have been back here immediately. It just continues 639 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.599 to be very fun, very good. It's I definitely like 640 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.640 just lost my momentum with it and so just be like, oh, 641 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.880 I'll force myself to go back and that was the 642 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.359 right choice. I'm gonna see it through now. I you know, 643 00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.000 I think I'm still at a point with that game 644 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.640 where the structure of each of these adventures like going 645 00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.880 from one to the other maybe did get a bit samey. 646 00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:53.200 So having this break helped with that. I think had 647 00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:55.440 I gone right back into this after cleaning the thing 648 00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.559 before it, I probably would have been feeling a little 649 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.680 bit worn out by the formula. But in this moment, 650 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:02.960 it's like, oh no, it's just a pleasant game with 651 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.920 really fun characters, really sharp writing. I like, I like 652 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.920 the combat still and now we're getting long breaks between 653 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:11.880 next it's it's playing around doing a bunch of other 654 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.440 things on this train. We're just investigating things. There's a 655 00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.119 couple of people asking me to look for some stuff. 656 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.480 It's not like big and sprawling. It's a train, so 657 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:20.240 I kind of know where everything is so it's easy 658 00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.480 to manage. Uh yeah, just continues to be a very 659 00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.720 very solid game that I'm I'm happy I'm going to 660 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:26.279 finish here. 661 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.079 So yeah, that's definitely one of go ahead chance. 662 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:30.680 Sorry, I think I got to pick this up. Now, 663 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.119 I think I got I've never played Paper in Your Door. 664 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:34.480 Oh you never played Janet. 665 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.880 It's so good and you know that chapter structure like 666 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.160 so yeah, sometimes it can be a little bit like, uh, 667 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.759 you know, kind of like up and down, up and down. 668 00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:44.799 But each chapter does a pretty good job of switching 669 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.000 things up, and some of them really switch things up, 670 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:51.279 like this train murder mystery parody moment here right, which 671 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.640 again is just sort of really well done and it 672 00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:57.039 is a lot of fun. Relatively laterish in the game, 673 00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:59.519 I'm trying to think, Jeff, well, what else do you have? 674 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.880 You have you done? That's what island one? 675 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:05.000 I don't know there's I think there's just this and 676 00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.559 then and then one kind of thing after this, one 677 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:08.440 chapter after this. 678 00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.000 And then lead ish. 679 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:10.759 Yeah. 680 00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:14.400 Sure, there's like the pro wrestling section, which is incredible. 681 00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:15.319 Oh yeah, I love that. 682 00:32:15.400 --> 00:32:17.799 Yes, yeah, where you get your own little baby Yoshi. 683 00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:20.240 It randomizes the color of it, so it's very exciting 684 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:21.279 to see what color you get. 685 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:23.160 What what's Mario's wrestling name? 686 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:25.960 Oh the Great, the Great Gonzales. 687 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.599 Yeah, yes, it's great. 688 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:30.960 It as gray as the baby Yoshi like only knows 689 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.480 him as that because he's born he's the Great Gonsolate, 690 00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.960 so he after the entire game, we'll call him Gonzale. 691 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:38.839 To play this remake because I played with that. I 692 00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:40.279 only went through the one time, and it was like 693 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:41.839 five years ago. I feel like I kind of want 694 00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:42.440 to play it again. 695 00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:43.640 Oh, it's so really good. 696 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:44.960 It's so freaking good. 697 00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.920 Like playing through, I'm like, oh this, you know, it 698 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:52.480 was always either this or Mario RPG is my favorite, 699 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.680 and playing both of the remakes and I enjoyed both 700 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:56.839 of them, I am like, no, it's thousand year Door. 701 00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:58.400 This game is too freaking good. 702 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:01.720 All right, Hey, question for you boys, what is the 703 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:03.279 best fake wrestler name. 704 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:08.480 Fake wrestler as in in a movie or TV show? 705 00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:13.799 It's Thunderlips, right, Thunderlips is good. Captain Insana, Captain Insanos. 706 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.759 The Kevin Sana was a wrestler in The Water Boy, right, Like. 707 00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:19.480 Yes, Boom is. 708 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.680 Good and really the way he sells sells show. 709 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.720 Yeah, it might be Bones. What's the name of the 710 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.079 guy in uh gosh, the freaking weird comedy with David 711 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:33.000 Arquette and. 712 00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:33.799 Ready to Rumble. 713 00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.720 Oh, he's just like the King, right he's it's Oliver Platt, 714 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.039 which was the weirdest. 715 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:41.720 Yeah, God, that movie sucks. 716 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:42.720 I love Oliver Platt. 717 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:44.680 Jimmy King, Jimmy King. 718 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.559 Okay, that's that's the Have you seen the. 719 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.440 Clip of David Arquette on Nitro eating ship through the 720 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:51.160 gimmick stage. 721 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.119 No, it's incredible. 722 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.400 I probably saw it at the time and GDP. 723 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.720 Are climbing the like tron to do a spot and 724 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:02.799 the stage was gimmicked because they were going to do 725 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:04.839 a spot where they fell off and fell through the stage. 726 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.240 When David Arquette was supposed to be in that spot, 727 00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.320 they just told him, like, hey, go out through the 728 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:11.280 tron and just take a rite and go over there 729 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.440 and then do whatever. They didn't tell him the stage 730 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.360 was gimmicked, so he just ate ship through this like 731 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:18.840 wooden stage that was gimmick to like shatter and everything. 732 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:21.639 You can see You see David Arquette leave the frame 733 00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:23.760 and then the camera pans over and he's just in 734 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:24.400 a hole. 735 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:27.719 Cat hole. 736 00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:31.159 Yeah, that's a yeah, that's great. 737 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.880 There could be there could be a at least caught 738 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:34.440 again hole. 739 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.360 King of the Ring, Ring of the King. I don't 740 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:40.159 know read forget the name of it. Yeah, it's a 741 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:41.159 very generic name. 742 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:46.320 Rumble Bone Saw is very good and that's. 743 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:51.119 The best casting, like weird past his prime macho. Yeah, 744 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.199 that's great. That's like rap album era macho man. 745 00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:57.239 It's a good line. 746 00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.440 Read oo he's ready. Yeah, I feel like there was 747 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.119 no direction, No, Raimy just let him. 748 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:06.079 Cook and he was the good guy in that scene 749 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.239 because Spider Man got homophobic or something, right. 750 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.000 Ye, right, yeah, and then his uncle died. 751 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:12.920 He let it happen. 752 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:14.079 He let it happen. 753 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:15.320 Spider Man hel. 754 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:18.320 He has heal moments. 755 00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:19.400 Okay, definitely. 756 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.960 Yeah. Yeah. Speaking about going back to games, Jeff Grubb, 757 00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:26.880 You've also gone back to Star Wars Outlaws. 758 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.239 Yeah, yeah, I'm like, so, I think I've been mentioning 759 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.320 the last couple of weeks here on the BombCast that 760 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.960 was having a hard time focusing on stuff and starting 761 00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.679 up new games, and I'm like, I think, really big 762 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.039 part of it is there's so a handful of things 763 00:35:39.079 --> 00:35:41.119 I want to clear up from last year and keep playing. 764 00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.440 And when I was like super honest with myself, it's 765 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:45.639 like the one I want to be playing the most 766 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:47.559 of Star Wars Outlaws, So I've gone back to that. 767 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:52.519 They've updated a bunch so it runs better. The gameplay improvements, 768 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.039 I feel like they just added some extra juice on 769 00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.280 top of everything. There's definitely the aspects of people being like, oh, 770 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:03.679 the automatic failure in stealth scenes is they did that? 771 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.280 So it's like it's no longer going to be an 772 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.880 automatic failure. You can continue to play through that and 773 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.719 just shoot your way out if you want, Like, great, 774 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.880 that's awesome. I didn't notice that too much because I 775 00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.039 would just sneak through and usually get through and it 776 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:16.800 would be fine. Skill issue is what you're saying, skill 777 00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.159 issue exactly, I think. I think the other part of 778 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.760 this A lot of those things happened earlier in the game, 779 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.280 and it's one of the reasons I think the game 780 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:25.639 had such a rough patch early on. It's like people 781 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:27.719 would just play these parts and hate it and not 782 00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.079 get to a lot of the good stuff. Later, I'm 783 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:32.599 into a lot of the good stuff, and I think 784 00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.800 the extra juice is like the blaster fire just seems 785 00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.000 a lot more like vibrant and alive, Like getting shot 786 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.880 at now feels dangerous and cool, and your weapon Like 787 00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.239 part of it is I've upgraded my weapons so that 788 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.320 it feels cooler, but just like getting shot at by 789 00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:50.800 enemies feels so cool now. So these action sequences are 790 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.519 even more effective than they were before. And then you 791 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.320 still have all of the awesome connective tissue that made 792 00:36:56.360 --> 00:36:58.119 this game so neat in the first place, which is 793 00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.760 going to these cool planets like Jimmy and it being 794 00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:03.920 this you know, snow planet that's kind of like Tibet 795 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.639 a little bit, and going through there and finding all 796 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.000 the food vendors all that stuff is still awesome. And 797 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.320 now because the performance, it looks better than ever and 798 00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:13.039 runs really well, and you know, I'm getting like one 799 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.159 hundred and twenty frames per second with the lyss and 800 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:18.079 stuff like that, so it just looks really smooth, and 801 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:20.320 I'm just enjoying being in that place. I think I've 802 00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.480 come to accept that I like being on the planets. 803 00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.639 And then anytime I do like a little side quest 804 00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.440 and it's like, okay, now getting the ship and go 805 00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.000 fly out to a random point in space and do 806 00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:31.639 something out there and then come back to the plan 807 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.880 I'm like, I don't want to do that, Like, let 808 00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:36.559 me just stay on this planet. So there's some aspects 809 00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.639 of like the structure that I'm still not in love with. 810 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:41.800 I think this is still mostly an okay to good game. 811 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.320 I think it's landing more towards good these days, but 812 00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:47.760 you know it's not one. I'm like, hey, this was 813 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:49.280 a nine out of ten, and you should have spent 814 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.280 seventy dollars on it the day it came out. This 815 00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.119 is definitely Hey, if you can get it for forty 816 00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:56.559 to fifty dollars and you understand some of its flaws 817 00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.360 and shortcomings and you're okay with still liking a game 818 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.639 despite those things, it's still that. But for me, it's 819 00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.440 like that, I throw that stuff out immediately and I'm 820 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:07.840 just now just having a really good time with it still, Greb. 821 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.159 Do you think this game would have performed differently if 822 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:11.599 it wasn't tied to Ubisoft? 823 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:14.719 Yeah, I mean I do think there's a Yeah, ubi 824 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.239 Seft's just having a thing right at a moment right now where, Yeah, 825 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.039 people hear that name and they have a certain idea 826 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:21.239 of what those games are going to be a lot 827 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.760 of times a correct estimation of what those games are 828 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.719 going to be, and they're burnt out by that, and 829 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.239 they don't trust that company, and they you know, think 830 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:29.920 that you know, I could just wait a little bit 831 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:31.800 and get it on sale and then that's what that 832 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:34.079 game's actually worth. So the idea that you're even trying 833 00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:35.639 to charge seventy dollars out of the gate in the 834 00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.400 first place is an insult to me. Yeah, I think 835 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:41.159 Ubisoft has just got some bad juju right now, and 836 00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:43.559 that's hurting all the stuff it puts out. Well, see 837 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:44.920 how that works out for Shadows. 838 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.880 Yeah, it's fine. Everyone's just going to start charging one 839 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:49.960 hundred dollars for games and that's going to save everything. 840 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:51.480 Man, we'll talk about that in the news. 841 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:56.000 Yeah, motherfuckers. If you missed it. Last Friday, we did 842 00:38:56.039 --> 00:39:00.559 a charity stream for La Wildfire Relief and Mikey you 843 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.360 put on the rundown Bowser's Fury. 844 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:04.000 Yeah. 845 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:05.800 Yeah, you know, it's funny because you know we did 846 00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.639 that race, but the race was just to beat the game, 847 00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:14.440 so we all did that also, me, Jeff, Dan and Sean. 848 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.159 That was just such a fantastic time. That was one 849 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.880 of my favorite dreams we ever did here. Obviously, you know, 850 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.639 doing it for a good cause getting to hang out, 851 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:27.840 but also Bowser's Fury. Gosh, that is a fun game 852 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.239 that like you know open world structure there where there's 853 00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:34.079 there's basically just all these mini levels floating amongst this 854 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:36.960 open world and you use plessy to kind of swim 855 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.679 your way between them. And I'm like this and this 856 00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.000 was kind of like the somewhat test Slash Drone together 857 00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.079 version of that idea that was made to kind of 858 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:47.800 give a little bit of a bonus to the three 859 00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:51.559 D world port on switch Boy. I'm excited to see 860 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.159 what the new three D Mario is. I'm like kind 861 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.280 of like preparing myself now that it might not be 862 00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.079 a long schame for the switch too, if it's Mario 863 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.280 Kart instead of that. But a guy, I used to 864 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.599 hope that it's this year because Bowser's Fury was still 865 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.039 just so much fun, very easy game to play through 866 00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:06.679 in one sitting. 867 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:08.639 I feel like it was easy to forget how good 868 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.000 it was too, because I don't know if you were 869 00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:11.559 like me where it's like it came out. I heard 870 00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:13.480 it was like a five hour thing. I played through 871 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.840 it all in like one or two sittings, loved it, 872 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.320 remember loving it, and then I didn't touch it since then. 873 00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:20.199 So it's been like since it came out that I 874 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.199 last touched it, and it's like immediately been like, oh, right, 875 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.239 this is I want this to be the blueprint for 876 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.000 every Mario going forward, and. 877 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.880 For me personally, like my association was with Bowser's Fury 878 00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:32.920 became more, oh this is the game I got in 879 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:34.960 trouble in the tend with because I said how many 880 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.480 catch shines were in it and it wasn't supposed to write, 881 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.599 so like you know, the meme became reality there a 882 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:42.880 little bit. So it was nice to remember, no, no, 883 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.039 this is actually a very very good game. It was 884 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.119 worth going to Nintendo G four. 885 00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:48.199 It'll wait for me. 886 00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:51.199 It's a game you did your time, Mike, It's good. 887 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:56.039 Yeah, exactly right, Yeah, you've been rehabilitated. I think for 888 00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.800 me it's always a reminder of assessing games in the 889 00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:03.039 time and then assessing games years later, especially once you 890 00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.159 start getting out of the generation that it's in. It's 891 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.199 a very different thing. It just is. And what I 892 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.719 want from a game when I am like reviewing it 893 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:12.760 and recommending it to people and I know they have 894 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.199 to pay a lot of money for it is very different. 895 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:16.760 Then it's like, what are some good games on this 896 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:19.880 system that is no longer you know, a going concern 897 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:21.320 and the switch is not there, but it's getting there, 898 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.920 And so I'm having that retrospective vision now and looking 899 00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.760 at it's like, well, clearly, yes, Bowser's Fury is a 900 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.559 standout game on the Switch because you don't have to 901 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.920 be like worrying about oh, and it's only three to 902 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.599 four hours at this point. That is a positive for 903 00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.719 that game, where it maybe was not when it first 904 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.559 came out. So yeah, I think at the time it 905 00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:43.840 was it was easier to forget. And now as we 906 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:45.199 get out of the switch, it's gonna be one of 907 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.760 those where it's like, oh, yeah, that system had Bowser's Fury, 908 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:49.400 one of the you know, one of the best three 909 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:51.400 D platformers ever. Who cares how long it. 910 00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.480 Is, so grab you're doing these reappraisals, now is it 911 00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:54.440 time for Red Dead two? 912 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.599 For you? I will always be willing to reappraise something. 913 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:00.239 Like I said, I did do that one stream where 914 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.079 it's I went in there and immediately had a bad 915 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:02.639 time again. 916 00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:05.000 But I would say don't stream it because I've considered 917 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:06.960 that several times as I started playing it again, like oh, 918 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.159 maybe I'll just stream some like Bounty Hunts or something here. 919 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.039 But then the second no, this is gonna be my 920 00:42:11.199 --> 00:42:13.360 playoff line. 921 00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.800 So there is what's his name, the guy that sits 922 00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:21.159 on the exercise ball on YouTube. He did Abe Newle, Yes, 923 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.920 Gabe newele I can't I can't remember his name. He 924 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.440 started ball media someone in chat will help me remember. 925 00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:29.159 But he did a Red Dead Redemption two video not 926 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.840 long after I did my story on Gamespeed explained why 927 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:34.159 I thought it was a disappointment, and his video was like, 928 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.519 point by point, like all the stuff I was feeling. 929 00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.360 He did a great job, Naked Jaki, Thank you everybody. 930 00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.880 He did a great job of extrapolating on those ideas 931 00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.960 and saying all the things that I was feeling. He 932 00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:48.960 then did another video recently, I think last year, where 933 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:50.679 he's like he went back to Red Dead Redemption two 934 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:52.880 and he said I found ways to appreciate it. He 935 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.199 mostly found ways to appreciate it by installing mods. And 936 00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:57.840 I think that is probably my way to get to 937 00:42:57.960 --> 00:42:59.599 a game that I will really love from Red Dead 938 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.400 Redemption two is make it my own sure, and so 939 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.320 I will probably go that route, and I'm sure I 940 00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:06.320 would have a good time with that. 941 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:07.679 Yeah, big Naturals, I got it. 942 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:09.960 Grub, thank you, thank you for understanding. 943 00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.280 I think it speaks to how good of a game 944 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.960 Bowser's fury is because when you three and Sean get 945 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.880 into the competitive mode, I noticed a little bit of 946 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.599 tension and salt building up. But I don't think there 947 00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:28.559 was any real tension or any real fury or hurry 948 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.079 amongst y'all. You all were just enjoying the game. It 949 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:34.159 was a race a bit, that's it. 950 00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:36.519 I would have played it probably a bit differently, Like 951 00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.159 if we weren't racing at every one of those islands, 952 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:41.800 I would have gotten all five of those yeah coctibles 953 00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:43.880 and stuff like that. But like it was a fun 954 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.760 addition to it where it's like, am I gonna waste 955 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.519 the time to find these last two cat things? 956 00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:48.840 Or do I need to fucking move here? 957 00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.559 Like I would do this exact race again with this 958 00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.480 exact same Yeah, Like I feel like that's it feels 959 00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:55.079 ever going to me. 960 00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:57.119 It was so much fun and it was a good 961 00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:02.960 time because of that, Dan Reikert, you had to play 962 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:03.800 Crimson Skies. 963 00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.360 Yeah, So I won Bowser's Hurry, and so we got 964 00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.119 to pick a classic retro. 965 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:11.880 Game to play that we hadn't played before. So I played. 966 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:17.360 No, I lost, and Mike gave his punishment homework Assignment, 967 00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:20.199 which for those who didn't see it, the punishment was 968 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:22.639 the winner got to pick a game that the three 969 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.880 losers had to play that they had not played before, 970 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:27.199 and the idea was, it's a good game. It's not 971 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:29.960 like a Blake Club type thing. And so Mike picked 972 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.920 Crimson Skies for me for the original Xbox and it's 973 00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:36.719 very backwards compatible, and it is really good. It is 974 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:39.280 something that like if I'm enjoying it a lot right now, 975 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:42.480 but it is so in that almost like twisted metal 976 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.559 rogue Squadron style of just like here's a big empty 977 00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:49.519 here's here's a big map. There's collectibles, there's power ups, 978 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:52.360 there's heel spots, there's a bunch of enemies, there's boss fights. 979 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.440 But like there's a lot of variety in it that 980 00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.320 I don't think I expected. There's you know, a lot 981 00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.880 of like, okay, escort the zeppelin. Go there's a gyrocopter, 982 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.239 Go collect this fragile delivery and try. 983 00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:04.039 To bring it through a canyon. 984 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.000 Lure this enemy ship into a canyon where we've got 985 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.920 a bunch of anti air stuff going off. And you 986 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:12.159 can also get out of your plane and take like 987 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.559 you can go to a friendly zeppelin and take over 988 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.440 the turret on top, you can switch to the turret 989 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:19.920 on the bottom. Like there's there's robbing a train, there's 990 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:24.960 like kind of trials of you know, flight and combat. 991 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:26.760 And stuff like that. There's just a lot of a 992 00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:27.480 lot of variety that I. 993 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:29.960 Don't think I would have expected in this, like Xbox 994 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:34.280 era you know plane game. You know, I grew up 995 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.679 on a combat on PlayStation, which are great games, but 996 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:40.320 this has a lot more variety than that, I think. 997 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.440 So, yeah, they're making an adventure game. Yeah yeah, not 998 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.559 like but like adventurous game, not adventure the genre. 999 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.519 Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like it's like Sky Captain type. 1000 00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.119 Of Indiana Jones. 1001 00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.559 And yeah, that's one things I always liked about. 1002 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:57.440 You know, there's so many, you know, games where the 1003 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:01.480 setting or theme is sci fi fantasy, modern warfare, and 1004 00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:06.400 this one has that very pulpy nineteen forties adventure film 1005 00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.960 kind of thing, and you know, like the music does 1006 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.639 that so well too, just the way the radio chatter 1007 00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:14.519 is all the late you know people, toxic catchers that 1008 00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:18.440 specific feel very well. And also lots of turret sections. 1009 00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:19.039 I thought Dan. 1010 00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:19.480 Would like that. 1011 00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.480 I love a good turret section, even like it's just 1012 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.280 got those dumb little missions that I'm sure we drive 1013 00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:26.639 some people nuts, but I love where it's like, all right, 1014 00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:31.119 follow this plane that's dropping weather balloons and you need 1015 00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:32.840 to shoot all the ones that don't have a blue 1016 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:35.039 cross on them, and so it's like you have a 1017 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.320 time limit and it's like you have to kill nineteen 1018 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.079 of these things and you can't hit a single blue 1019 00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.320 ones like shooting gallery stuff. But it all controls well. 1020 00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.400 I'm surprised there's not like a cockpit view for the planes. 1021 00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.840 But yeah, I think I'm over halfway through it now 1022 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.719 and I really really enjoyed it. So good, good choice, Mike. 1023 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.440 Good glad for having fun with it. Now you can 1024 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.840 join me on my yelling crusade to get them to 1025 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:59.320 make a new one, because the game like this, you know, 1026 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.679 this keeps all right surprisingly open like you talked about, 1027 00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:05.480 but one like a really big, continuous open world and 1028 00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.800 with monographics, got that would be incredible. 1029 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:11.400 Yeah, I see you two have also banded together to 1030 00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.920 also play Donkey Kong Country Returns HD. 1031 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.559 Yeah, I stand by it's one of the best platformers 1032 00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:20.039 of all time. 1033 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:25.119 Oh, I mean two D You know, maybe I'm enjoying it. 1034 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:26.559 I never I didn't play before. 1035 00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:28.159 This is my first time going through it, and I 1036 00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:33.599 am having a lot of fun with it, especially you know, 1037 00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:35.519 in like original Donky gunt Country, you get to a 1038 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.199 mine cart level and you're like a little weird, like, 1039 00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:39.559 oh god, it's gonna maybe be a little annoying. Mine 1040 00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.360 cart levels here are really fun. I like the angry 1041 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.800 Bird style rocket barrel levels even more. 1042 00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.079 Yeahs like flatty Bird where it's just a lot of 1043 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:49.559 like tapping. 1044 00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.159 Yeah yeah, sorry, yeah exactly. The flappy bird style thing 1045 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:58.280 there is really good. Yeah, it's just kind of really 1046 00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:02.239 all together. Saw it Sometime I'm I hate myself for this. 1047 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:02.960 I have this problem with. 1048 00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:06.000 It's a big problem. 1049 00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:10.159 But like, I have more fun if I don't care 1050 00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.079 about things like getting the Kong lists a lot of times. 1051 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.679 But I also can't help I pass up on the 1052 00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:17.400 puzzle pieces. 1053 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.559 I mean, I when it originally came out one hundred 1054 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.440 per the game got all the puzzle pieces and stuff. 1055 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.159 This one, I'm just doing Kong letters, but I can 1056 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:25.519 pass up the puzzle pieces. 1057 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:27.760 Yeah. So like again, it's because you know, you can 1058 00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.000 get to a pretty good flow state here, right, especially 1059 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.719 with the rolling and I always love that Donkey Knng 1060 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:34.880 Country move where you can roll off a ledge roll 1061 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:36.719 in the coyote time. 1062 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:38.519 Right, So that's fantastic. 1063 00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:39.719 But you know, so I kind of hate that I'm 1064 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.599 on a roll and then like I see a letter 1065 00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.920 and I like stop and kind of like looking around. 1066 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:45.800 I only get the letter and I kind of want 1067 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:46.599 to just keep going. 1068 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.280 I think I know what you will say to this, 1069 00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:50.880 but I think I'm going to say this. I don't 1070 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.840 know if I've ever thought this before. I think it's 1071 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.719 the best Donkey Kong game. I know you're gonna say 1072 00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:56.920 ninty four, You're gonna say ninety four. 1073 00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:57.800 I'm okay. 1074 00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.079 Anything with Donkey Kong in the name. 1075 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.079 I think this is a Donkey Kong. I think even 1076 00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.960 amongst the country games to two the two two is 1077 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:08.159 my second favorite. 1078 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.440 Sure, I don't think it's a ridiculous thing to say that. 1079 00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.400 Oh yeah, I could see this being a person's favorite 1080 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:13.760 for sure. 1081 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:14.920 Okay, yeah. 1082 00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.239 I think it was also came out at a time 1083 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.159 where it's like now, it's an embarrassment of riches in 1084 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.440 terms of great two D platformers, like especially like the 1085 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:24.719 NDCE and stuff that's'm playing like Celeste. Again, there were 1086 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:26.320 so many but I remember when I reviewed this a 1087 00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:29.679 Game Informer, was it twenty ten something like that. We're 1088 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:33.000 still only like a few years into that, Like XBLA 1089 00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:36.719 renaissance of all these like oh n plus Explosion Man 1090 00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.719 and like two D specifically two D platformers I think 1091 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.079 had just recently been kind of coming around, and so 1092 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:46.239 for me to see this like really good looking new 1093 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:48.760 Donkey Kong Country game was still like a novelty at 1094 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:49.400 the time, you know. 1095 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.440 Yeah, you're right, because for a while it was you know, 1096 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.679 it was almost like tabbooed to make a home console 1097 00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:58.159 two D platformer games from one of these big companies, 1098 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.280 and Antito was doing it a bit with like new 1099 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.440 Super Mario Brothers. Even then a lot of that stuff 1100 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:05.199 was more for the portables, So yeah, we had a 1101 00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.639 new Super Mario Brothers. We but yeah, something about Donkey 1102 00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:11.679 Cutchry returns. It was like, no, we're just gonna make 1103 00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:13.840 a lot of these, and in fact, for some franchises, 1104 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.800 this is maybe the better option. We tried Donkey Kong 1105 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.400 in three D and well whatever that was, that was 1106 00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.559 something maybe the two D thing is better here, And 1107 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.599 for a while I resented it a bit because it 1108 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:26.320 kind of took a while for them to get a 1109 00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:29.079 little bit adventurous with three D stuff. Again, like Kirby 1110 00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.119 was stuck a two D forever. We haven't had a 1111 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.639 new three D Donkey Kong, we haven't had a solo 1112 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.559 three D Yoshi game. They just keep those series to 1113 00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.800 two D. I think with like Warrio, right, we had 1114 00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:41.679 like the fun GameCube three D Wyrio game, then. 1115 00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.440 That series just went back to two D or micro games. 1116 00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:47.480 But I am glad that they did eventually get over 1117 00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:50.360 that kind of you know, being afraid to make two 1118 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:51.800 D games thing for a while there. 1119 00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.360 We and especially this one, like coming out on the 1120 00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:57.000 Switch makes sense to me because like as great as 1121 00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.280 it was on the Wei, having to waggle to do 1122 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.559 the role and that's a very frequent thing you have 1123 00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.480 to do suck. And then three DS was better because 1124 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:06.000 you don't have to worry about that. But it's also 1125 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:07.559 tied to the three DS. So it's like, this is 1126 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:09.519 one that I want on my switch. I wanted to 1127 00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:11.559 be backwards compatible and my switch to I want to 1128 00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:14.000 just be able to play this game without doing waggle bullshit. 1129 00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.199 Yeah. Yeah, that's the work that I kind of want 1130 00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:18.360 them to do with a lot of their games that 1131 00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:20.719 are stuck on these sword consoles, is just get them 1132 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:22.440 set up for the long term on the switch and 1133 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.920 that'll be good. And yeah, seeing that for Donkey Kong 1134 00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:26.920 is is fantastic. And they made a big point about, hey, 1135 00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:29.079 now all the Donkey Kong Country games are on the switch. 1136 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:30.360 I you know, I think they're going to do that 1137 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:31.360 with a lot of franchises. 1138 00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:33.400 I still haven't beat Donkey Kong Country three. That's the 1139 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:37.199 only one I e beat. It's I've tried it so many times. 1140 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:38.840 And some of the level design and a big dumb 1141 00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:43.199 baby Kong. I hate that stupid Kong. 1142 00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:44.880 I hate people. 1143 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:46.599 I don't like looking at it, look at that in 1144 00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:48.360 Wow Wow. 1145 00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:49.800 Dixie is great. 1146 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:51.960 Love Dixie. Fucking dum Baby. 1147 00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.239 Fuck that guy. Big people hating Kongs. 1148 00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:56.800 You see, like some people are really upset about the 1149 00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:57.679 new Donkey Kong. 1150 00:51:58.519 --> 00:51:59.239 I love that. 1151 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:00.760 It's awesome. 1152 00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:03.760 I love it. 1153 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.840 It's been this since like the Super Nintendo, you know, 1154 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:08.519 like let's let's get Donkey Kong in there. 1155 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:10.480 It makes up a little bit. It's okay. 1156 00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:12.840 Well, I like the Donkey Kong Country designs, but like 1157 00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:16.840 Rares like talents have never been character design like kind 1158 00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.039 of going back to a different design is fine. I 1159 00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:19.320 love it. 1160 00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:21.800 I love Rare's dumbass characters. 1161 00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.280 Just everything just has big eyes, a lot of cash 1162 00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:24.920 with eyes. 1163 00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:27.840 Yea flower with boobs. 1164 00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:28.079 Uh huh. 1165 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:31.039 Giant thing of poop, the giant thing of poop. 1166 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:33.960 Yeah, well there's no way to transition to Dark Souls three, 1167 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:35.400 so Mikey tell me all about it. 1168 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:38.400 Actually, I've been picking up a lot of dung piles 1169 00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:43.159 in that game. Yeah, I've been kind of working through 1170 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:46.719 the Dark Soul series. Started three up a couple of 1171 00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:48.679 weeks ago. I was always looking forward to this one 1172 00:52:48.679 --> 00:52:50.639 because I knew it was gonna be, you know, a 1173 00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:54.840 little bit faster paced, a bit a bit more out 1174 00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:56.840 and ring like and always I like the slower pace 1175 00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:59.719 of Dark Souls one is fine, but I was excited 1176 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.280 to do something that was gonna feel more like Elden 1177 00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:04.960 Ring doing my deck Bill. So I'm doing a lot 1178 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.719 more rolling and whatnot. But yeah, having a great time. 1179 00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:11.679 Very very pretty game. A lot of really interesting looking areas, 1180 00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:13.719 like the one place that basically looks like a winter 1181 00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:19.639 Thomas Kincaide painting fun bosses. I will say that I 1182 00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:23.239 like did the first DALC the other day. I think 1183 00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.000 my streaming my chat tricked me to doing it earlier 1184 00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:28.559 than I should have, and I did not enjoy that 1185 00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:31.079 I was in like some snowy place inside of a painting. 1186 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:33.719 It suddenly kind of felt a bit like Dark Souls 1187 00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:36.920 two again, where there's like all these areas where eight 1188 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.199 enemies are attacking me at once and there's nothing I 1189 00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:41.239 can really do about that, so I'm just trying to 1190 00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:45.000 run past them. Then they kill me anyways, and it's 1191 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:48.719 just kind of really annoying levels with bad platforming sections 1192 00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:51.159 here or there, and I'm wandering around four hours before 1193 00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:53.000 I even find a boss that I want to fight. 1194 00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:56.320 Then I got to the boss and it was very difficult. 1195 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.320 Then surprised they had a phase two. Then I you know, 1196 00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:02.079 had to try harder it beat the face two and 1197 00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:03.920 that was very difficult. I was real proud of myself. 1198 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.880 Then the fucker out of Phase three, and then I 1199 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:08.480 was like, all right, well, I'm gonna go do something 1200 00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:10.599 else for a while, come back to this part later. 1201 00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:13.400 Then I'm not banging my head against this wall forever. 1202 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.440 So big. Not a super infant of that DLC, but 1203 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.519 Dark Soul's three in general, very good, might be my 1204 00:54:20.519 --> 00:54:21.719 favorite of those games so far. 1205 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:25.280 Lovely, Lovely, Jeff Grubb, I have no idea what this 1206 00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:28.719 is that you put on the doc here, this looks 1207 00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:34.400 like an acid trip sound self a technodelic de. 1208 00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:39.079 Yeah, that's an acid trip. Oh, so it's okay. So 1209 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.599 I was at my first E three. No, couldn't be 1210 00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.679 in the firs. It was an early three. Early VR 1211 00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.519 stuff is getting shut up now, I'm saying that this 1212 00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:51.440 might have been a GDC, and it was like there's 1213 00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:56.960 a weird person who had a VR headset say hey, come, come, 1214 00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.639 like uh meditate with my VR our game. I'm like, okay, 1215 00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:02.480 let's go see what this is about. And they put 1216 00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:06.440 me in like the development kit one Oculus rift headset 1217 00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:09.920 thing with the like really bad screen all that stuff. 1218 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.360 But I just like laid down on a pillow in 1219 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.880 the middle of GDC, and I there was the microphone 1220 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:17.639 could pick up your humming and you're supposed to go, 1221 00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:21.760 and then the speakers of the VR headset feeds that 1222 00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.039 back to you and then sometimes like messes around with 1223 00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.119 that sound a little bit and you get in this loop. 1224 00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:30.800 And then they just placed like win app visualizer stuff 1225 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.360 in front of you. So the way it works now 1226 00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:35.840 is this was on Steam. They took it off Steam 1227 00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:39.079 a couple of years ago. Actually, I think they shifted 1228 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.280 it over to be actually a medical app or something 1229 00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:44.360 like that, or actually to use it in real therapy. 1230 00:55:44.840 --> 00:55:47.159 But since I bought it, I still have it on steam. 1231 00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:50.039 And the way it works now is you are laying 1232 00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:53.119 in a field and you start to making like your 1233 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:59.559 you know, transcendental meditation sound whatever it is, and the 1234 00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.480 leaves on the tree again to like sway, and like 1235 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:04.920 you can kind of see this little twirl of branches 1236 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.000 up at the top of the tree, and every time 1237 00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:09.400 like you take a breath and do a new sound, 1238 00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.440 it like shifts you up towards that little part of 1239 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.159 the branch until you begin to like enter into it. 1240 00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:18.760 And then that's when like the universe opens up in 1241 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:22.639 front of you and basically turns into the win APT 1242 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.400 visualizer again. It is a very cool trick. It's a 1243 00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:29.440 very neat thing to experience, to the point where it's 1244 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.199 like you just kind of get into this flow state 1245 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:32.920 and you kind of you do feel like the self 1246 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.079 begin to like fade away and you're just in this 1247 00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:38.320 moment and then all of a sudden it's over and 1248 00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.559 they they put you right back into the field underneath 1249 00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:42.440 the tree, and I just take off the headset. I'm like, 1250 00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.480 all right, I'm ready for my day. It's a very weird, 1251 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.639 neat thing that I'm super into, and I like, I 1252 00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:50.400 always forget about it. And then I was just in 1253 00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:52.519 my VR headset the other day. I was gonna play 1254 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.840 some stuff on the bean bag and I saw that 1255 00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:57.239 in my VR thing on Steam and I just streamed 1256 00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:58.920 it to that and it's like, oh, yeah, that thing. 1257 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:00.840 So I've only done it times in my life, but 1258 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:03.159 each time, I'm like, this is a really cool neat 1259 00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.239 thing that I wish more people had known about. 1260 00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:07.079 Sure you didn't just do d MT. 1261 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:11.039 No, I'm not sure. Okay, what's definitely possible. 1262 00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:15.199 It's a drug. Things happened like what he described. 1263 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.119 All Right, I'm looking at images on the Oculus web 1264 00:57:18.159 --> 00:57:20.039 page and yeah, it looks like a one visualizer. 1265 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:20.719 I would try this. 1266 00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:21.480 You should. 1267 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:23.599 Yeah, if there's a way for anyone to try. Yeah, 1268 00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:25.000 it's very neat. I think you would like it. 1269 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:26.280 Should I have marijuana first? 1270 00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:27.760 It helped me. 1271 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:34.199 Okay, the cops got disappointed. Your dare camp counselor would 1272 00:57:34.199 --> 00:57:35.360 be dandy if you tell. 1273 00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:37.880 Us, Mike, we're gonna have your brother sent to prison 1274 00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:41.199 for stealing hacks yep, all right, the mini family. 1275 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:48.519 In front of us speak about getting into a flow state. 1276 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.440 Dan reichert, have you edited a flow state while playing 1277 00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:52.480 Clone Hero? 1278 00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:53.239 Oh? 1279 00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:54.760 This has been interesting. 1280 00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:58.039 I saw, I think, I said, Steve Saylor posted like 1281 00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.840 an Instagram story and I saw them playing like on 1282 00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.320 a modern TV and console with like these sharp looking 1283 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:06.280 guitars and like, what the hell is that? 1284 00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:08.079 And I messaged him, was like what guitar is that? 1285 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:08.679 What are you playing? 1286 00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:10.880 And he told me was the the PDP riff Master, 1287 00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:12.880 And so I got one of those. I got the 1288 00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:17.159 Xbox and PC one, and god damn, I I well, 1289 00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:19.840 my first thought was like, okay, back in the day 1290 00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:22.440 all my rock band and Guitar Hero stuff was on Xbox, 1291 00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:24.800 So I'll get the Xbox one. I looked it up, 1292 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:26.199 and she'll be able to pull in all the old 1293 00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:28.440 sound you know, the song packs and everything I got, 1294 00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:30.480 And so I loaded that rock band for at first 1295 00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:33.480 about the like Rivals bundle, and sure enough there's it's 1296 00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:35.280 like all the rock band four tracks, which I didn't love, 1297 00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.840 and I thought I had more tracks. Maybe I'm thinking 1298 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:39.920 of Guitar Hero or something, but it was just like ah, 1299 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:41.360 here's a Queen of the Stone Age pack. 1300 00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:42.880 Here's a David Bowie pack. 1301 00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:44.840 But I didn't I had like one hundred songs or something, 1302 00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:48.599 and then shout out to NICKI telling me about Clone Hero, 1303 00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.360 and Nikki also sent some links that were very helpful 1304 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:56.760 at making that work easily, and so I immediately there's 1305 00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:58.599 you know, led Zeppelin, all the stuff that like you 1306 00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.400 wouldn't normally find a guitar here or I mean, I 1307 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:07.639 don't know how legally all is or whatever, but there's 1308 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:09.440 stuff like guns and roses, like I don't know why 1309 00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:12.199 they never put appetitpe for destruction in uh in rock 1310 00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:15.639 band or anything. No way to know for sure to know, 1311 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:17.519 but yeah, it's like, wow, you can play Sweet Child 1312 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.639 of Mine and all this stuff on rock band. My 1313 00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:21.719 brother in law's band had like Thank You, SID has 1314 00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:23.320 had like eighty tracks on there, and it's like, what 1315 00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.480 a Bat's awesome that I nailoaded Cody Roads theme song. 1316 00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:29.679 I got Stone Cold theme song. They didn't have Batista. 1317 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:32.000 I got John Cena. It's just like, yeah, playing John 1318 00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:36.559 Cena's theme on a guitar. Yeah, Colony ro seems awesome. 1319 00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:38.639 I mean, it's not like the fancies layout. I've seen 1320 00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:41.360 you can you can do your own backgrounds and stuff 1321 00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:42.559 like that, but you just want to play the songs, 1322 00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.079 play the songs, and it's just like, yeah, it's it's 1323 00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:48.360 the search their software and stuff out there where you 1324 00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:50.880 can find a whole lot of songs and stuff that download. 1325 00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:54.320 And yeah it works for and also that guitar is awesome. 1326 00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:55.039 The guitar is great. 1327 00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:57.360 Yeah, that's my question. Do you think it'd be worth 1328 00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:57.719 the price? 1329 00:59:59.000 --> 00:59:59.599 How much is it? 1330 01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:03.559 And I think it's like one hundred. Do you want 1331 01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.119 to hear something? I mean, if you want to play 1332 01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:06.800 it is really solid. 1333 01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:07.039 It is. 1334 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:09.440 I like it better than the old It's wireless, got 1335 01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:11.760 a dongle, and the cool thing is it has this 1336 01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.239 like flip down thing where like the whole like kind 1337 01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:15.800 of fret bar or whatever you want to call it. 1338 01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.719 I'm not a musician, Uh, flips down and so you 1339 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:20.480 just fit it back into the box or I've got 1340 01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:23.440 a thing here. Yeah, it's it's nice, Like it's a 1341 01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:24.280 really solid guitar. 1342 01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:28.800 I've done this same exec setup but for DDR with 1343 01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.920 step Mania, which is an app you can download that's 1344 01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:35.760 basically just clone Hero for DDR. I basically have that 1345 01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:37.519 set up on this computer all the time. That's that's 1346 01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:39.440 the way to do it these days. Yeah, because the 1347 01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:42.159 community sport is off the chart for all these things. 1348 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.440 Yeah yeah, so really really enjoyed that. So it's great 1349 01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:45.559 to have that grub. 1350 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.559 I've seen a couple people streaming that washing Machine looking 1351 01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:50.519 rhythm game. 1352 01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:52.960 Yeah yeah, yeah one. I just played that at Yeah 1353 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:55.039 well and games done quick. 1354 01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:59.400 Yeah yeah, I need to figure out a way we 1355 01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.480 need to get sh that washing Machine setup at home, 1356 01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.760 because you would be I'd love to, like you have 1357 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.559 the camera set in front of the or behind the 1358 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:12.320 screen so you're like you're staring at the people as 1359 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.559 you're doing the rhythm game. It'd be great, it'd be 1360 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.280 that'd be my whole job was really fun. 1361 01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:20.639 It was great. I was like really getting into it, 1362 01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:22.679 dancing like there again, I have some video, Chris, so 1363 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:24.360 I'm sorry. A J got some video of us, so 1364 01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:25.719 I'll see if I can share that. 1365 01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:27.639 Anymore. 1366 01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:32.840 No, that's right, myma is what the washing Machine game 1367 01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:36.079 is called apparently, Okay, okay, yeah, it'd be a nice 1368 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:39.000 top down view for a stream, just like it is 1369 01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:43.559 a top down isometric game that I've been playing called 1370 01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:48.039 super Vive. I saw someone chatting about this on the 1371 01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:50.599 twitch chat last week while I was talking about Marvel Rivals. 1372 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:58.440 Supervive is a isometric squad based battle royale. If you 1373 01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.800 look at it just from screenshots or the trailer, it'll 1374 01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:04.519 remind you of like a DoD To two, perhaps a 1375 01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:09.159 League of Legends. And it's out in early access right now, 1376 01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:12.599 and I really wish I liked it more because I 1377 01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:15.800 do have a little bit of like the League bug 1378 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:18.480 or the League virus still within me that I've been 1379 01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:24.000 keeping at bay. It's just I don't know if I 1380 01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:28.199 like controlling an isometric character through wasdy. I'd rather do 1381 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:33.480 just mouse to flick them around and trigger off abilities. 1382 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.119 It's okay. I think the problem is because it's an 1383 01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:42.280 early access and I've been spoiled by games like Marvel Rivals. 1384 01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.599 There's only there's a very small character pool from the jump, 1385 01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.800 and they do the thing where you take turns with 1386 01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:54.280 your teammates to walk off and select characters. So I 1387 01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:57.360 got stuck with a character that I wasn't super familiar with. 1388 01:02:57.679 --> 01:02:59.920 Like the tutorial didn't do a good job at show 1389 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:03.800 all the characters that you can mess around with at 1390 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:09.360 early access and it is it is bedlam because you 1391 01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.559 launch onto a map just like you would in Fortnite 1392 01:03:11.639 --> 01:03:14.840 or pubg and then from there you are kind of 1393 01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:17.960 learning the lay of the land and looking for other teams. 1394 01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:21.519 The thing is much like a Fortnite. If you get 1395 01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:25.920 eliminated or you get killed, your party has the ability 1396 01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:28.800 to revive you, and it seems like it is near 1397 01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:30.760 unlimited revives and you don't need to go to a 1398 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:34.719 specific location like you would for like a revived van 1399 01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:40.000 in Fortnite. The part that I am not meshing well 1400 01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:42.800 with is it is a little too chaotic for me, 1401 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:47.119 and on top of the controls and just everything kills you. 1402 01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.159 We wound up on a train and there wasn't an 1403 01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:53.079 easy way to communicate with my party members of where 1404 01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:57.239 we were going or what the danger was. And then 1405 01:03:57.320 --> 01:03:59.639 the train killed me, not because it ran me over, 1406 01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:03.000 but it had a bunch of weird turrets that I 1407 01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:09.039 didn't realize were enemies or like a stage hazard. The 1408 01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:12.079 neat thing though, is there is a glider in the 1409 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:14.559 game that is a big component of the game because 1410 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:18.400 there's some light platforming and if you shoot someone while 1411 01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:22.400 they are gliding, they instantly drop, So I did get 1412 01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:24.559 a couple of fun kills that way because they just 1413 01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:28.239 fell to their doom. But overall I wasn't really clicking 1414 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.760 well with super Vive. But a game with a gigantic 1415 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:34.519 gun or a gigantic sword in it, that I do 1416 01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:37.639 want to check out. Dan you taken a look at 1417 01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:39.480 Blade Kimera. 1418 01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:41.480 Oh yeah, this is the one I wanted to get. 1419 01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:42.199 I'm getting it right now. 1420 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:43.559 It has guns and swords. 1421 01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:44.559 Yeah. 1422 01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.639 It is a Metroidvania, which, boy, I've just been lousy 1423 01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:51.840 with metroidvanias lately, between the dominant collection and this, and. 1424 01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:53.920 It's an embarrassment of riches out there right now. 1425 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:55.679 It is, and it's one of my favorite genres I 1426 01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:57.440 never get tired of. So whenever I hear there's a 1427 01:04:57.480 --> 01:04:59.760 good one, I jump in and uh, probably a couple 1428 01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:02.920 hours into this one. Very good so far, so square 1429 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:07.079 and circle. You can map to whatever weapons, so guns, swords, 1430 01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:08.480 things like that. So like right now I've got like 1431 01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:11.880 an assault rifle thing and I just have like the 1432 01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:15.239 sword on x or sorry, I'm playing on Xbox, so 1433 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.079 X is my sword, b is my guns? And then 1434 01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.119 why is this like spirit sword? It's almost like the 1435 01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:23.280 skyword sword like it turns it. Sometimes it's the ladies, 1436 01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:25.280 sometimes it's the sword. It talks to you all that stuff, 1437 01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:26.760 and it's called me Lux. 1438 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:29.840 And so the sword is going. 1439 01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:31.800 So there's like two different bars. There's your health and 1440 01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.039 then there's your Lux bar, which is like your spirit 1441 01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:37.840 sword thing. And if you get kills with your standard weapons, 1442 01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:40.679 your guns and swords, you recharge your lux energy, which 1443 01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:43.119 is like your MP. If you get kills with your 1444 01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:46.639 lux abilities and sword and all that stuff, you get health. 1445 01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:48.519 So it's kind of like a miniature version of that 1446 01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:52.000 Doom Eternal kind of like health and Ammo economy thing, 1447 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:54.719 and it's cool like they like when you get skill 1448 01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.400 points and things there are they usual like Okay, here's 1449 01:05:57.480 --> 01:05:59.960 the kind of like dashed down jump, here's the slide, 1450 01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:02.920 or you can do things where you're unlocking you know, 1451 01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.679 things like oh your lexibility can now you set this 1452 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:07.719 thing like almost like a turret and sprays a bunch 1453 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:11.119 of bullets in a certain way so you can turn 1454 01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:12.480 those on and off. So it's got kind of a 1455 01:06:12.599 --> 01:06:16.440 good skill tree situation going on there, but great boss fights. 1456 01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:19.199 It's a lot of the pain in the ass parts 1457 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:21.760 of metroidvanias, like the backtracking and things like that are 1458 01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:25.239 really nullified here by you can just warp to most places. 1459 01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:26.800 Like one of the first things I unlocked was the 1460 01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:28.880 ability to just like look at a place on the 1461 01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:30.639 map and just say, warp there. It doesn't have to 1462 01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:32.679 be a warp room, doesn't have to be anything like that. 1463 01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:34.599 There are certain areas where you can't do that, but 1464 01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:36.440 for the most part, you can just kind of warp around, 1465 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:38.320 so it's not that constant like, oh, I got to 1466 01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:40.039 get back to the saving room where I'm going to die. 1467 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:43.039 You can usually just warp back there and safe. But yeah, 1468 01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:46.440 great boss fights, some weird enemies that I've enjoyed. It's 1469 01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:48.639 it's really solid. Only a couple hours in, but I 1470 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:49.679 am going to keep going with it. 1471 01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:54.159 But sexual twenty twenty five game, which yeah, it has 1472 01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.559 been a lot of January releases here, which has been 1473 01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:58.559 nice in a way because it has been letting me 1474 01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:02.039 kind of play some odor things there. But yeah, we'd 1475 01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:05.000 like to check out a twenty twenty five metro Vanya, 1476 01:07:05.079 --> 01:07:08.360 especially before the deluge of big releases starts the next month. 1477 01:07:08.599 --> 01:07:11.440 Yeah, yeah, I mean, god, this just does look like 1478 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.800 Game Boy Advanced Castle Vanya is where they're like, here, 1479 01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:16.760 we have an idea for an enemy, how can we 1480 01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:19.039 do it in two D? Here's a big cat I 1481 01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:21.159 don't know, just have its head beyond this plane and 1482 01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:23.119 the rest of its body be in the background. And 1483 01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:25.360 I love that shit. I love the way that stuff looks. 1484 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:26.119 I think you'd like it. 1485 01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:28.559 And there's like some little puzzle elements that like, I 1486 01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:31.000 haven't really seen as much in Metroid Veniens, where it's 1487 01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:31.760 like there's. 1488 01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.760 A UV light will kill your spirit sword, So you 1489 01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:35.079 have to. 1490 01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:37.440 Find ways to like, Okay, I'm gonna stick the sword, 1491 01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:39.119 because you can stick the sword and walls in the 1492 01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:40.559 ground and stuff like that. So if you throw in 1493 01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:42.760 the ground, it creates like a bubble shield around you 1494 01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.440 that'll guard you against projectiles. If you throw it against 1495 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:47.880 a wall, like let's say you're jumping up towards a wall. 1496 01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:50.400 If you hold why, it'll throw the sword in and 1497 01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:52.480 you'll like get to use it as a platform. So 1498 01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:54.599 the sword is pretty versatile. Like let's say you're about 1499 01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:56.360 to go into this UV thing. Oh shit, I can't 1500 01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:58.039 walk through it. It can cut my sword. You can 1501 01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:00.199 stick the sword in the wall or the ground then 1502 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.159 you as your person go through the thing and tell 1503 01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.440 the direct line of you to the sword doesn't go 1504 01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:08.480 through in the UV, and then you can kind of 1505 01:08:08.519 --> 01:08:10.239 like gott to war axe it back to your hands. 1506 01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:12.960 So just some fun stuff like that. Yeah, it's it's 1507 01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:13.920 a pretty unique one. 1508 01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:16.600 It sounds big. I think I must have played this 1509 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:18.479 in like a steam neex fest last year or something 1510 01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:20.760 like that, because it looks familiar and sounds familiar. I 1511 01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.920 bet that's what happens. So yeah, I'm I'm ready to 1512 01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:26.520 play this. I think I heard or saw Patrick Kleppik 1513 01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:29.159 talking about it as well. Uh and so like this 1514 01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:30.560 morning' like oh yeah, I should ad that to the list, 1515 01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:32.159 and then forgot. So I'm glad you brought it up. 1516 01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:33.960 I have now added to my account. I'm gonna download 1517 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:35.359 on Downloat on the steam Deck tonight. 1518 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:37.199 It's fantastic. I've only played it on the steam Deck. 1519 01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:42.640 It's greatly more games should have spirit swords. Spirit swords, yeah, 1520 01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.239 like a gigantic one following me at all times that 1521 01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:46.119 I'd feel safe. 1522 01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:48.880 What about my soul caliber like swords that have like 1523 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.159 goopy eyeballs and stuff. Yes, I like that. 1524 01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:52.880 I mean if if you have the souls of human 1525 01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:54.960 beings in there. That's that's good. I can handle that. 1526 01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:57.560 Will I get corrupted? Or am I already corrupted? 1527 01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:00.760 I think the fact that you want you want one 1528 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:02.520 of these swords means you're already corrupt. 1529 01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:04.680 But so Jan is sigfreed right now. I do want 1530 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:07.560 to see what Nightmare Jan looks like. Oh guys, we 1531 01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:10.159 aren't ready for that jungle juice. 1532 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.119 Let me tell you, oh boy, to give me a 1533 01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.239 couple of months, I'll show you all Nightmare Jen. 1534 01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:17.199 Yeah go back. Yeah, we'lcome back to working at the 1535 01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:20.079 coffee shop. And that was Nightmare Jan glowing us. 1536 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:23.079 Let's give me one of the people you know, pushing 1537 01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:24.920 the kids aside to get a box of Polkemon cards 1538 01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:25.319 or whatever. 1539 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:29.560 See, I'm reformed. I could have just jumped the line 1540 01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:32.880 and stolen those Pokemon cards or jump some of those nerds. 1541 01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:36.840 Let's make a Scared Street a miniseries with Jan talk 1542 01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:38.800 like performing Pokemon nerds. 1543 01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:43.159 I'll do it. I'll do it because they finally need it. 1544 01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:47.119 Go outside, stop trying to make money selling cards, and 1545 01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:49.279 go get a blue collar job. Goddamn it. 1546 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:51.439 Hell yeah, I'm watching. 1547 01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:55.640 All right, friends, We're gonna take a quick bricky break 1548 01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:58.960 because that about does it for games. I like how 1549 01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:01.680 quiet it is right now. It's about to get so 1550 01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:05.359 fucking loud with video games soon. Yeah, February is right 1551 01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:08.680 around the corner, boys. Uh, and the news is right 1552 01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:10.479 around the corner as well, and we'll hear about it 1553 01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:18.479 right after this break a break, Jeff Grubb, I actually 1554 01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:20.159 have the first news story today. Yeah. 1555 01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:20.479 Please. 1556 01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:32.760 Due to social obligations, I helped chaperone a high school dance. Okay, 1557 01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:37.439 and yes, no, the DJ was taking requests. 1558 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:41.920 Oh and I ask Googly Moogly, that thing is juicy. 1559 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:46.159 I asked him, Hey, I think it'd be hilarious if 1560 01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:53.640 you put on the macarena. Oh yeah, And then he said, no, 1561 01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:56.000 I am not going to play the makarena. 1562 01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:59.279 What a funny tuddy exactly, like. 1563 01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:02.000 God, love the power that they wheeled over us. 1564 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:03.399 Yes they do. 1565 01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:07.439 They love it is that is their throat, right, that 1566 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:11.159 is their court, and they love to tell us no. Yeah. 1567 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:13.960 Like I think we were at some bar in l A. 1568 01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:15.680 And I think I went up to the DJ and 1569 01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:17.560 requested a song, and I got the vibe that I 1570 01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:20.479 had violated him by requesting a song. 1571 01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:23.439 So I don't think I trust DJs. 1572 01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:25.960 I don't. Yeah, I think I'm I'm coming to your 1573 01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:26.399 side on. 1574 01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:28.399 This, and in general, if somebody says they're a DJ, 1575 01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:32.800 I'm instantly like, all right, that's right, putting yourself down here, 1576 01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:34.359 and you gotta climb out of a hole there. 1577 01:11:34.399 --> 01:11:36.359 You know, I want to be careful because I you know, gosh, 1578 01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:37.640 I used to go out so much. I like, get 1579 01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:39.600 friends of a couple of DJs, and they happen to 1580 01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.439 be listening. 1581 01:11:40.199 --> 01:11:40.680 Listening to you. 1582 01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:46.399 They're better than jugglers, but they're but not much DJ 1583 01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:52.319 asked tits just perfect. No, that's very different kind of 1584 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:58.680 DJ we're talking about. Yeah, j is art, Yes, yes, yes, yes, 1585 01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:03.159 uh yeah. Anyway, I was very offended, and then I 1586 01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:08.520 high school dances are terrible, even witnessing them as an adult. 1587 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:11.880 I guess I should I guess I shouldn't ask, But 1588 01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:15.399 are just so curious how you ended up chaperone high 1589 01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:17.439 school dance social obligations. 1590 01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:22.079 Mikey Uh, all right, that's the odd life I live anyway, 1591 01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:23.680 Jeff grab the actual news. 1592 01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:27.640 Yeah, yeah, my first news story is, uh, my kids 1593 01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:31.319 now say the word clipbard instead of clipboard. Yeah, so 1594 01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:35.760 they they love it. Actually, they love saying clipbird. They're 1595 01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:37.600 out there all the time. They got a little favorite, 1596 01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:40.680 big red dog, Yes, Clipberd, the big red dog. They 1597 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:44.600 love many things, tiny little things. They have a mini 1598 01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:47.319 locker now for their toys, and they have many school 1599 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.479 supplies and they take all their kids their toys to 1600 01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:51.840 school and they use all the many objects and stuff 1601 01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:54.720 and one of them is a mini clipboard. And I 1602 01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:57.159 mentioned my friend calls that a clipboard and they're like, well. 1603 01:12:57.119 --> 01:12:59.880 Now we do too, and so wonder all of it? 1604 01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:01.119 What about mini mouse? 1605 01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:05.760 No, they've never heard of her. That clip show someone 1606 01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:07.760 put together of the voicemail dump truck came out and 1607 01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:09.880 I think that was one of the conversations they slept. 1608 01:13:10.319 --> 01:13:11.600 So where that's going from. 1609 01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:15.039 Yes, I said someone should make a clip show. And 1610 01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:17.119 then someone just edited a clip show and it's out there. 1611 01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:17.920 It's pretty good show. 1612 01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:19.720 To you someone that did a good job. 1613 01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:24.039 It's ct lens with a Z at the end on YouTube. 1614 01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:27.560 So yeah, shout out to them, all right, news I Hey, 1615 01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:30.000 the switch to was announced. You know, we'll go over 1616 01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:32.239 the basics again. Real Quick showed off the form Factor 1617 01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:35.800 and new Mario Kart. Mario Kart had twenty four places 1618 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:38.119 at its starting grid, so people are thinking maybe there 1619 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:40.600 could be twenty four racers instead of the twelve that 1620 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:44.039 were Mario Kart eight. The system itself is bigger, The 1621 01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:47.960 screen is bigger, it has a smaller bezel, It is 1622 01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:51.640 backward compatible. There are some exceptions they noted, but they 1623 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.399 did not say what kind of exceptions. People are speculating 1624 01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:56.880 that it's because of the larger form factor. The joy 1625 01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:00.319 Con won't work with stuff like Labo so things long 1626 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.479 that sort of problem, and not with like oh there's 1627 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.760 a software issue in some games just won't run. Although 1628 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:08.079 we don't know for sure yet, there was no price 1629 01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:11.399 or release date. A bigger reveal is happening on April second. 1630 01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:13.840 I think they called it a Nintendo direct a dedicated 1631 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:17.399 to those switch to at that point. More leaks have 1632 01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:20.199 come out since then, and one seems to confirm that 1633 01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:23.399 the switch to will have halt effect joy Con analog 1634 01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:26.760 sensors inside them, basically the thing the Dreamcast had that 1635 01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:30.159 solved drift twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, Jesus, 1636 01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:33.079 and now Nintendo is going to be doing that as 1637 01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:35.159 well so that they can avoid drift. Because they never 1638 01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:39.800 really solved drift with the Switch one. It was a 1639 01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:40.640 problem up to the end. 1640 01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.520 Can you do a layperson's explanation of hal effect? Is 1641 01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:44.319 it's something I hear a lot. 1642 01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:47.039 Yeah, so, I mean, basically, it just uses a magnetic 1643 01:14:47.119 --> 01:14:50.079 field to tell where another magnet inside that field is, 1644 01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:53.399 and it just it's one to one every time. It's 1645 01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:56.760 more complicated than that, but that's the layman's explanation. It 1646 01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:57.920 uses magnets. 1647 01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:03.880 We'll never know. Another explanation of Hall effect is when 1648 01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:06.359 you just keep a toothpick in your mouth and you 1649 01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:09.640 throw it dramatically for cool effect, to be the bad. 1650 01:15:09.560 --> 01:15:10.199 Guy and you get up. 1651 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:12.119 Yeah. 1652 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:14.199 I wasn't sure if you were going to go with 1653 01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:16.920 Scott Hall or Hall of Oates, but okay, similar to 1654 01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:22.079 I always go to Scott Hall Skall Hall. The Switch 1655 01:15:22.119 --> 01:15:25.520 To trailer has seventeen million views already, which it reached 1656 01:15:25.560 --> 01:15:27.800 faster than the PS five reveal video. If you want 1657 01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.840 to take anything from that. I think it has fewer 1658 01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.119 views than the Switch one trailer did at this point, 1659 01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:35.800 so who the hell knows views are free? It's not 1660 01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:39.239 like you can tell much by that. And now Nacon 1661 01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:41.760 a third party publisher. I think they might have published 1662 01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:44.479 that RoboCop game last year or the year before that. 1663 01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:47.600 As told investors, did expect switch To to launch between 1664 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:51.760 April and September. Again, we do not have a release 1665 01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:54.359 date yet. So it's been about a little bit less 1666 01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:56.720 than a week for us since we saw this switch 1667 01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:58.479 to stuff. We've talked about it a lot and a 1668 01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:01.239 lot of different venues. What are your guys thoughts on 1669 01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:02.760 the switch to at this point? 1670 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:07.159 I'm excited. I think people are getting all up in 1671 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:10.039 arms about the lack of a fun gimmick. I think 1672 01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:10.600 we will have. 1673 01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:15.560 We will have whatever happened to fun Nintendo guys. 1674 01:16:16.199 --> 01:16:18.920 Oh my, I am I am actually starting to get 1675 01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:20.640 a little tilted from because. 1676 01:16:20.399 --> 01:16:23.079 It's a crazy thing. It's a crazy thing to say, 1677 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.479 like right, I mean, of course it was going to 1678 01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:29.880 just be the switch to, and they already are putting 1679 01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:32.199 in probably more weird, little gimmicky things. I thought, I 1680 01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:35.359 don't know what people wanted, but also like what was 1681 01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:37.640 the real innovation with you know, yeah, the switch the 1682 01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:40.439 home console of the Porpo thing. Things that really mattered 1683 01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:44.399 were like innovations and software like Breath of the Wild 1684 01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:47.720 doing what you know, crazy things you can still innovate 1685 01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:51.079 on that level. Yeah, gameplay, and that matters so much 1686 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:54.199 more that we added a second screen to the thing again, which, 1687 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:55.920 by the way, would it be an innovation. It's just 1688 01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:56.920 I'm doing an old. 1689 01:16:56.840 --> 01:16:58.119 Thing before that you liked. 1690 01:16:58.319 --> 01:17:01.039 I I agree with the you know, Alex Perry, I 1691 01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:04.079 saw him post something like prior to the Switch, the 1692 01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:08.800 hardware gimmicks that Nintendo put into their systems were like 1693 01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:11.239 an obstacle. It's something that you just had to deal 1694 01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:14.239 with to play the great games, you know, the game pad, 1695 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.920 the we waggle, all that stuff. It's like, it's not 1696 01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:19.119 what made them great. It was just like all right, 1697 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:21.680 Like I saw my Donkey con Country Returns. Yeah, yeah, 1698 01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:23.720 great fucking game. I just had to deal with the 1699 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:25.760 waggle to do it. It's not like the waggle made 1700 01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:28.680 that a great game. So like, I don't give a shit, Like, look, 1701 01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:31.119 the Switch is one of the best consoles of all time, 1702 01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:34.119 and the gimmick is a thing that actually matters and works, 1703 01:17:34.159 --> 01:17:36.000 and like, yeah, just make the next one like that. 1704 01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:39.560 It's also just like a failure and pattern recognition that 1705 01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:42.720 because this was never going to be the system that 1706 01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:46.039 was going to be weird again, because Nintendo does one 1707 01:17:46.119 --> 01:17:48.199 thing over and over again. They released the NES, then 1708 01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:51.079 there's this Super Nintendo. They they go, you know, had 1709 01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:52.479 the game Boy, then they had the game Boy. 1710 01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:56.560 Advance sequel systems when it hit, there's a sequel. 1711 01:17:56.640 --> 01:17:58.680 They always do a sequel system. To their heads, there 1712 01:17:58.800 --> 01:18:00.520 was the Wei, there was the we, U was the ES, 1713 01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:04.000 there was the three DSIX, there's sixty four d D 1714 01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:07.279 like the children won't stop talking about. Yeah, the Big 1715 01:18:07.560 --> 01:18:08.520 Natural is the system. 1716 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:11.640 Uh and uh Tetrosphere with big Cat. 1717 01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:17.199 That's my favorite mod. I don't know that the first Tetrosphere, 1718 01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:20.159 Big Naturals mod Jesus. 1719 01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:20.840 Uh. 1720 01:18:21.079 --> 01:18:23.359 Yeah, this was always going to be the switch to 1721 01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:24.760 fallow up. It was always going to be the game 1722 01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:27.680 Boy advance to the game Boy. So uh, people like 1723 01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:32.000 taking this and extrapolating as creative Nintendo is dead are 1724 01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.279 weird and wrong and odd and I don't know what's 1725 01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:37.359 wrong with them, Like, like, let's wait a little bit 1726 01:18:37.359 --> 01:18:39.279 before we declare that to be the situation. 1727 01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:42.000 I mean, a couple of seconds of that reveal trailer 1728 01:18:42.199 --> 01:18:46.640 showed the new joy Cons being used as mice, not 1729 01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:49.760 directly uses mice. Well, like alluded to Yes, suggestion. 1730 01:18:50.680 --> 01:18:52.119 Just just wait, y'all. 1731 01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:56.279 We we got a trailer that barely showed anything. Just 1732 01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:58.520 wait till they actually show stuff off. I'm still a 1733 01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:02.399 proponent that those joy cons will be used in a 1734 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:06.319 dumb optional way to control your Mario karts. 1735 01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:09.439 Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna got You're gonna be annoyed 1736 01:19:09.680 --> 01:19:12.720 by something about this system without a doubt for sure. 1737 01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:15.000 And then uh, and then they'll have fun little side 1738 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:17.600 gimmicks similar to street Pass that we don't know about yet. 1739 01:19:17.640 --> 01:19:19.279 That stuff will still happen to I'm. 1740 01:19:19.159 --> 01:19:22.520 Assuming that the joy cons, since they are magnetic now, 1741 01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:26.479 they will only latch onto the like switch itself. 1742 01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:29.279 Right, what do you mean, like I suppose to go? 1743 01:19:29.960 --> 01:19:31.279 I mean, if they want to do like a lavo 1744 01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:34.720 gimmick type thing, they could conceivably do weird accessories and 1745 01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:36.880 stuff like that, the wee golf clubs. 1746 01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:38.039 And stuff like that. You just had to have the 1747 01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:40.039 base things also have the other end of that magnet. 1748 01:19:40.079 --> 01:19:40.279 Again. 1749 01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:42.560 Yeah, it's kind of have that. I think we I 1750 01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:44.239 forget we saw it's gonna have another one of those 1751 01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:47.079 like mid connector shells that you can use as a controller. 1752 01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:51.399 I just want to be able to slap on weird 1753 01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:54.760 stuff magnetically to my switch to. 1754 01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:59.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there will be a lot of 1755 01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.359 that for sure, some of the other like you know, 1756 01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:05.279 we're in the puddle news area where people are only 1757 01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:07.920 fixate on the stuff that really scares them. And right now, 1758 01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:10.479 one of the main things for that is the sort 1759 01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.159 of tongue that sticks out of where the joy con 1760 01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:17.199 connects to that little connector slot, the extending slot that 1761 01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:19.399 is inside that little the hole where the joy Con 1762 01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:22.039 goes into. People are looking at that and saying, that's 1763 01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:24.079 going to break, and that is a point of failure 1764 01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:26.319 and we should all be freaking out. Do you guys? 1765 01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:27.960 Do you guys get that sense when you first looked 1766 01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:28.520 at that thing. 1767 01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:30.920 It would suck if it broke. H let's you know, 1768 01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:32.239 see if it breaks. 1769 01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:34.319 Yeah, that's where I'm at. Yeah. 1770 01:20:34.359 --> 01:20:36.439 I feel like every time I disconnected the when you 1771 01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:38.520 would attach the little like side gimmicks of the joy 1772 01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:41.920 con to play like you know, Snipper Clips or Mario Party, 1773 01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:44.239 you know, it always feels weird pressing that little button, 1774 01:20:44.399 --> 01:20:47.159 like like there's like a crass like I don't like 1775 01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:50.399 that sound at all, but like it's never actually broke anything, yep. 1776 01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:53.840 Yeah, And I my assumption here is they've tested this 1777 01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:56.359 and they it probably will not break. It's not gonna 1778 01:20:56.359 --> 01:20:56.800 be that thing. 1779 01:20:57.399 --> 01:20:59.399 I understand people being like skeptical and work because we 1780 01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.720 did have the joy kon drift issue, right yeah, Hey, 1781 01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:04.159 an issue like shows up that would suck and we 1782 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:06.840 should do something about that. But I'm not like, you know, 1783 01:21:07.399 --> 01:21:09.840 watching a video and trying to pinpoint what I think 1784 01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:12.159 the next red ring of death is going to be, right. 1785 01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:15.000 Yeah, And I mean Nintendo knows that part of their 1786 01:21:15.079 --> 01:21:18.239 core audience will be children that maybe may rough house 1787 01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:19.159 with their switch. 1788 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:23.520 So yes, yeah, that's why I fad too. It's an 1789 01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:26.680 outward facing little thing like that. It will be a 1790 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.439 great focus for them, being like what about kids? They 1791 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:31.520 will do that will if there is a point of failure, 1792 01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:34.840 it will be something like drift inside the system, overlooked, 1793 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:38.359 cheap component, takes time to fail. It'll be something along 1794 01:21:38.399 --> 01:21:38.760 those lines. 1795 01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:39.720 It'll be the kickstand. 1796 01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:42.159 It'll be the back of our kickstand, the back of 1797 01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:42.680 our stand. 1798 01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:43.199 Yeah. 1799 01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:49.119 Okay, so Nacon between April and September, I've like thought 1800 01:21:49.119 --> 01:21:50.560 about this a little bit more because I'm like, they'll 1801 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:52.640 just they'll skip summer if it's not coming the summer, 1802 01:21:52.720 --> 01:21:55.279 so it's either April, May or in the fall. I 1803 01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.560 guess why wouldn't they release it in summer, Like, I'm 1804 01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:00.279 trying to think of the reason I felt that way, 1805 01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:02.399 and it was just a gut feeling of it's a 1806 01:22:02.479 --> 01:22:04.399 bad time to launch a console. It doesn't make a 1807 01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:07.840 ton of sense. But why did I feel that way? 1808 01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:08.800 I don't know. 1809 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:11.359 Summer vacation people aren't home. 1810 01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:14.560 Maybe, yeah, I think so, But I think before the 1811 01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:17.479 switch doesn't matter, Maybe the switch two doesn't matter. Yeah, 1812 01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:19.680 it's maybe it's even the kind of system where like 1813 01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:22.159 a family buys it on vacation and takes it to 1814 01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:25.399 their you know, the their bungalow, their Airbnb, their room 1815 01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:28.039 things out that there. Yeah, the rooftop parties that they're attending. 1816 01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:32.039 So yeah, April to September does still sound plausible. I 1817 01:22:32.079 --> 01:22:35.119 think I would probably lean closer to September though, if 1818 01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:37.880 it doesn't come out like in May. But it's not May, 1819 01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:39.960 it's going to be later in the summer some. 1820 01:22:40.039 --> 01:22:43.079 May June hopes personally, but you know, I hope anywhere 1821 01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:43.560 in that window. 1822 01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:49.239 Yeah, I feel like September just because that next direct 1823 01:22:49.359 --> 01:22:51.119 where they're going to talk about the switch more will 1824 01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:53.439 be in April, and you want to give people enough 1825 01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:57.119 time to get their pre orders in and everything. You 1826 01:22:57.199 --> 01:22:59.359 think June would be too short of a turnaround time 1827 01:22:59.399 --> 01:22:59.600 for that. 1828 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:02.359 No, I'm ex again. I think I think May is possible. 1829 01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:04.359 Like I honestly like if I had, like, you know, 1830 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:07.560 do the chart it out and be like the bell curve. 1831 01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:09.199 I think, you know, the fat part of the bell 1832 01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:11.600 curve is May. That's like the most likely it's going 1833 01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:13.720 to be May time. It's going to be May. And 1834 01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.319 then June I think is is quite a bit less likely, 1835 01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:19.279 but still likely. And then I think, you know, July, 1836 01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:21.359 I just I just can't see it launching in July. 1837 01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:24.319 I guess that's the thing. Late August September, that all 1838 01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:29.159 makes sense, all right. Sony has canceled two more live 1839 01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:32.319 service games, reportedly including a God of War live service 1840 01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:36.399 game that was being made at Blue Point. Well's some 1841 01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:39.319 details here. The other game was at Bend Studio. We 1842 01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:42.159 don't know what Bend was making. This was part of 1843 01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:46.039 a reassessment. That is, there was multiple reasons why they 1844 01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:48.279 were doing these reviews. Some of it is that's just 1845 01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:51.039 the normal course of business. They also were doing these 1846 01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:53.359 reviews because there are new co CEOs and they want 1847 01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:56.600 to get their hands on everything, make sure they understand everything. 1848 01:23:56.720 --> 01:23:59.800 But let's be real, also, Concord happened, and there's still 1849 01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:03.399 sense of what didn't we see and why didn't we 1850 01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:05.239 see it? That they are going to go back and 1851 01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:07.239 try to apply to every single one of these games 1852 01:24:07.239 --> 01:24:10.199 that they're making, and you know, all those factors weighed 1853 01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:13.840 on these things. And this process started in December, and 1854 01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:16.359 so they were like going through December, kind of leaked 1855 01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:19.960 a little bit into January, and then everyone found out 1856 01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:23.560 that these games are getting shut down and it's a 1857 01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:28.520 relatively recent thing. So these studios are not necessarily like 1858 01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:31.000 being able to figure out what they're going to do next. 1859 01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:34.239 I'm sure they have some ideas. Again, the process started 1860 01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:36.920 in December, so at that time, if they're like looking 1861 01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:39.000 around reading the writing on the wall at Bend and 1862 01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:41.359 at Blue Point, they probably did start thinking, what are 1863 01:24:41.359 --> 01:24:44.359 some other projects we could be working on? But yeah, 1864 01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:48.119 this is definitely the continued fallout from what happened with Concord, 1865 01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:52.119 and not too surprised that they don't want to go 1866 01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:53.880 through with these things. But boy, that is a lot 1867 01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:57.359 of time and effort and money thrown down the drain 1868 01:24:57.479 --> 01:24:59.159 for games that will never come out, and a lot 1869 01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:01.680 of human hours spent working on these games that will 1870 01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:02.920 just be wasted. Greb. 1871 01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:06.319 I think there's also a third game that has been canceled, 1872 01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:09.479 the Horizon MMO or that's. 1873 01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:15.119 Yeah, that is the latest roomor I can't confirm that. 1874 01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:17.079 I don't know, but yeah, that's that's definitely just popped 1875 01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:18.439 off today And apparently. 1876 01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:21.279 That was like, that's different from the Gorilla made her 1877 01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:24.000 online Horizon Survival games somehow. 1878 01:25:24.359 --> 01:25:29.439 Okay, yeah, nc Soft Horizon m m O RPG. Okay, yeah, 1879 01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:32.319 that wouldn't surprise me. You definitely don't need that. And 1880 01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:35.800 whatever Gorilla is working on that is a crazy thing 1881 01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:38.000 that they were that they were doing over there. But yeah, 1882 01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:41.960 I mean, the live service stuff has fully fallen out 1883 01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:45.800 over at Sony. They're not in love with that concept anymore. 1884 01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:48.000 What I did here is if these studios were to 1885 01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:50.800 try to pitch new games, they definitely would not get 1886 01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:52.920 the green light for live service games. If that's what 1887 01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:55.720 they tried to pitch, I don't think they would want 1888 01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:57.039 to pay. That's so this time right. 1889 01:25:57.239 --> 01:25:59.159 That's so frustrated because, like I mean, two years ago, 1890 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:04.279 they were so loud, but that was the strategy, that 1891 01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:08.680 was it, That was the gravy train, and to pivot 1892 01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.119 so hard from that is got to be incredible whiplash 1893 01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:17.640 for these studios. It's still just so shocking that, in 1894 01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:21.119 this desperate pursuit of line going up, you just hit 1895 01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:25.159 your wagons whatever the trend is right now without any 1896 01:26:25.279 --> 01:26:27.520 thought of, well, trends are trends that they're called that 1897 01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:29.840 for a reason. They don't last forever. How long is 1898 01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:32.239 it gonna take us to make these games? How confident 1899 01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:35.199 are we in all of this to just take ideas 1900 01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:38.720 that only sound good in a boardroom meeting pitch like 1901 01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:44.399 God of War MMO or whatever it was, right, and 1902 01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:45.800 he's like, well, okay, there we go. 1903 01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:49.960 There's an ip and a buzzword. We got it right there. 1904 01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:53.720 Especially when a studio like Blue Point that was specifically 1905 01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:57.640 so good at doing the thing that they were doing 1906 01:26:57.720 --> 01:27:00.840 these amazing remakes, you know, oh, does a studio have 1907 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.319 to do that same thing forever and ever? Yeah, hey, 1908 01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:06.760 maybe not, Maybe they could try something new original live service. 1909 01:27:07.319 --> 01:27:10.319 That was the pivot for them again in this time 1910 01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:13.800 and age. Yeah, where the game takes five, six, seven 1911 01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:16.640 years to make and you cancel that all down the drain. 1912 01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:20.079 And the problem with the Polication five already is that 1913 01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:23.640 there just aren't that many PlayStation exclusives compared to the 1914 01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:26.680 PS four and especially compared to the PS three. Now, 1915 01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:28.840 oh that time is wasted, and you know we've already 1916 01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:32.359 had that happen with things like factions that Naughty Dog got. 1917 01:27:32.399 --> 01:27:34.640 Even Ben Ben would have been better off baking freaking 1918 01:27:34.760 --> 01:27:38.600 day Shan the two instead of this. It's God, It's 1919 01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:40.840 just it's frustrating for me. I can't imagine how frustrating 1920 01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:41.039 it is. 1921 01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:44.000 Oh, for sure, like this, especially Blue Point, who has 1922 01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:47.680 done like really great work helping remaster stuff to like 1923 01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:51.279 make them make an original or I guess it's something 1924 01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:53.399 based off of God of War, which they've worked on, 1925 01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:57.000 but like to ham fits them into like all right, 1926 01:27:57.199 --> 01:27:59.560 kind of make an original game that has to make 1927 01:27:59.680 --> 01:28:04.520 us boku bucks. It seems like a waste of that 1928 01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:05.640 studios talent. 1929 01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:09.079 Yeah, and its like I might just mentioned it the frustration, 1930 01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:11.760 I mean, because it's the way this stuff works is 1931 01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:14.880 you know, people's one chat's like how much blame does 1932 01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:16.840 Jim Ryan get and the way it works is like 1933 01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:19.239 Jim Ryan's not sitting around being like, here are my 1934 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:22.239 creative ideas for this studio and what they're gonna make. 1935 01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:24.479 I have the right ideas, and I'm going to go 1936 01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:26.520 tell that studio what to do. I want a God 1937 01:28:26.600 --> 01:28:30.359 of War online live service game and you're gonna make it. 1938 01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:33.600 It just doesn't work that way. Like they hold the 1939 01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:37.880 money bags, they hold the purse strings, and these studios 1940 01:28:38.319 --> 01:28:41.079 get an idea of what the leadership is looking for. 1941 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.439 And for years, the leadership was looking for a pitch 1942 01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:47.960 that would have said God of War and live service. 1943 01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:50.039 Can you get those two things in there? And if 1944 01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:51.520 you do, you have a better chance of getting the 1945 01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:53.159 green light. You have a better chance of getting a 1946 01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:55.479 lot of funding, so you can higher up and you know, 1947 01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:57.960 pay the people that you are already paying, pay them more, 1948 01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:01.399 give them some security long So this is what they 1949 01:29:01.439 --> 01:29:02.920 want to hear. This is what we're gonna pitch them. 1950 01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:04.840 Can we like feel good about this this pitch? It 1951 01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:07.760 kind of like it's reverse engineered in that way, and 1952 01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:09.960 they they take that to them, they get the green light, 1953 01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.079 they think it's all good, and then one game goes 1954 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:14.520 bad and suddenly all that stuff gets thrown out through 1955 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:17.239 no like no fault of your own. The game you 1956 01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:20.439 were working on probably was pretty decent, but it is 1957 01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:23.039 it decent enough to overcome the headwinds against live service 1958 01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:26.159 games that are trying to interermarket that's oversaturated. Probably not. 1959 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:29.239 And so some new calculus comes out and all of 1960 01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:31.079 the math that made it make sense before it doesn't 1961 01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:35.000 make sense now. And what are you left with going 1962 01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:37.840 back to ground? And it is Sony going to want 1963 01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:40.520 to hear like, here's another remake from Bluepoint. It's like, well, 1964 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:42.319 we were trying to grow you. We were trying to 1965 01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:44.239 like make sure your next game made even more money 1966 01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:47.640 than the last game did, and we're kind of going 1967 01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:49.600 in ad opposite direction. We're like, now, let's remake of 1968 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:52.159 this game and this like maybe slightly lesser known game, 1969 01:29:52.199 --> 01:29:54.640 and this slightly lesser known game. After that, it's like, no, 1970 01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:57.199 we want to start building up with something new going forward. 1971 01:29:57.680 --> 01:30:00.760 And so it's like, who's fault is all this? I mean, 1972 01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:03.840 clearly the leadership. It's it's mismanagement. It is it is 1973 01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:06.039 the mismanagement we've been talking about in this industry for 1974 01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:08.920 a long time. But even they can't get a grasp 1975 01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.439 on how to handle that, to fix the problem, because 1976 01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:14.600 it just sort of happens naturally when you give these 1977 01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:17.359 these leaders and these executives at these companies a certain 1978 01:30:17.439 --> 01:30:20.640 set of environmental realities. Of these are the kinds of 1979 01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:23.000 games to make a lot of money. People aren't spending 1980 01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:24.520 a lot of time playing a bunch of different games. 1981 01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:27.279 They are looking for their one hobby game. Uh it 1982 01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:29.600 turns out they've already selected that, but we don't know that. 1983 01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:31.359 We've got to try to break in and get our 1984 01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:35.000 lottery ticket going. And when when that that's the environment, 1985 01:30:35.199 --> 01:30:38.159 they just default to these bad decisions over and over again. 1986 01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:41.439 So yeah, now those are some real days gone. 1987 01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:43.439 Yeah, yeah, they sure are. 1988 01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:44.319 Uh. 1989 01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.479 You know, Microsoft gets so much of the attention right 1990 01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:51.079 with like, oh, Xbox is in big trouble. The failures 1991 01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:54.720 there are you know, pretty pretty loud, uh, And we 1992 01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.920 see the consequences of that, maybe more immediately. But PlayStation 1993 01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:01.399 just has so many of the same exact challenges and 1994 01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.079 again it's pretty loud too now with what happened with Concord. 1995 01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.760 It is just it's it's hard over state kind of 1996 01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:11.600 the impact that one games failure is going to have 1997 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:14.119 on you know, PlayStation and even the industry. 1998 01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:17.079 M hm. What does this mean overall for Marathon though, 1999 01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:19.680 because that is still being pitched as like a games 2000 01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:21.319 or a live service game, right. 2001 01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:27.079 Better hit. There's also rivers that bungees making a mobile too, right, 2002 01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:31.319 So I don't know, but I feel like there's so 2003 01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:33.680 many of these boy that game better hit moments in 2004 01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:36.760 the industry right now, right, I mean absolutely if it 2005 01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:40.079 would be soft and Assassin's Creed Shadows, yes, you know, 2006 01:31:40.199 --> 01:31:42.079 it's like that with Grand Theft thought six, which you 2007 01:31:42.119 --> 01:31:44.039 know it'd be weird if it didn't hit, but boy, 2008 01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:45.359 it better hit. 2009 01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:48.319 Mm hm oh man, imagine what what world we're gonna be? 2010 01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:50.199 And if somehow Grand Theft out of six had like 2011 01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:53.479 a cyberpunk style launch and it was just everything was 2012 01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:58.039 on fire and international news stories be a rough place, yeah, 2013 01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:01.399 it would be bad. Yeah. I mean, I just think 2014 01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:05.760 that going forward, it's gonna have to be like these 2015 01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:07.640 companies are just gonna do more cost cutting. They're probably 2016 01:32:07.680 --> 01:32:09.760 going to cut more jobs while they try to figure 2017 01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:11.960 out what's next. And that's so it's like that Survive 2018 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:13.039 twenty five is rough. 2019 01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:15.960 We could we continue to spot this spiral of fewer 2020 01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:21.119 and fewer games coming out, which specifically for PlayStation and 2021 01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:23.520 Xbox is gonna be a big problems. That's that's the 2022 01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:27.880 only differentiating thing now is these exclusives in a lot 2023 01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:30.600 of wayspecs. You know, in a world win a switch 2024 01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:32.560 to it's gonna be able to play a lot more 2025 01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:35.199 of these third party games that you wouldn't necessarily have 2026 01:32:35.239 --> 01:32:37.640 gone on the switch before. I don't know, it's it 2027 01:32:37.720 --> 01:32:40.600 seems kind of like a scary time in the future 2028 01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:42.720 for these companies, and something's got to get figured out 2029 01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:47.600 with PlayStation. Maybe it's this move to revive some older franchises. 2030 01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:50.000 Then maybe then hey, now we can figure out what 2031 01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:52.359 Bend and Bluepoint do. They can you know, help revive 2032 01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:54.479 this this old franchise and they can make that real 2033 01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.920 specificity in some way. Maybe you can make them do 2034 01:32:57.039 --> 01:32:59.520 something new, of course, but it seems like a slightly 2035 01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:01.319 safer bet to do the old ip thing. 2036 01:33:01.800 --> 01:33:06.399 Yeah, it's uh, I think they're just against the wall, 2037 01:33:06.600 --> 01:33:08.720 right because they need to find new people to buy 2038 01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:11.880 five hundred dollars consoles and they've sort of run out. Uh, 2039 01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:13.560 you know, we we buy a lot of those, but 2040 01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:17.279 that is not a growing market, and so spending a 2041 01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:19.479 lot of excuse me, a lot of extra money making 2042 01:33:19.800 --> 01:33:22.800 new games to entice people to buy that console. What 2043 01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:25.359 we just said, well, new people aren't buying the consoles, 2044 01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:27.600 so what are we doing this for. It's it's tough 2045 01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:30.600 get that. That is why they continue to look outside 2046 01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:33.920 of the console. Real quick about this, I did mention 2047 01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:37.079 somewhere now I don't remember where, that people at the 2048 01:33:37.079 --> 01:33:39.560 studios found out at the same time as the story 2049 01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:43.000 went live, And while that is definitely true for some people, 2050 01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:45.720 it definitely is true for because and really it was 2051 01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:47.680 there was an email that went out about half an 2052 01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:49.960 hour before the story went live over on Bloomberg, and 2053 01:33:50.319 --> 01:33:52.119 many people did find out then, but of course some 2054 01:33:52.279 --> 01:33:56.000 leadership new like I said that that the conversations about 2055 01:33:56.039 --> 01:33:58.600 the review for these games was happening since December, so 2056 01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:03.279 definitely some people had known for a while. And how 2057 01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:06.880 that stuff is disseminated internally at these studios is always 2058 01:34:06.880 --> 01:34:09.359 going to be different from studio to studio, so maybe 2059 01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:10.680 a lot of people knew it one or the other. 2060 01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:12.199 But really, what I was just trying to say is 2061 01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:15.720 this stuff is happening now ish recently in the last 2062 01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:18.479 couple of weeks, and their future is still very much 2063 01:34:18.680 --> 01:34:20.560 uncertain about what they're going to be working on next. 2064 01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:23.960 All right, let's see here, let me get back on 2065 01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:27.359 the the right doc here, Okay. Dragon Age director leaves 2066 01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.920 BioWare for an offer she couldn't turn down. Koran Bush, 2067 01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:32.880 the game director of Dragon Age the Veil Guard, is 2068 01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:36.960 leaving BioWare after eighteen years at Electronic Arts. Bush stated 2069 01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:39.520 that her decision was based on a personal fulfillment and 2070 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.840 a desire for a new challenge. She expressed a pride 2071 01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:45.079 in her work on Dragon Age the Veil Guard, saying 2072 01:34:45.119 --> 01:34:47.359 that she helped bring the game back to a proper 2073 01:34:47.479 --> 01:34:50.840 quality single player RPG. People don't remember that game was 2074 01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:54.279 going to be a multiplayer online and Korn Bush came 2075 01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:56.239 in and kind of rescued it and turned it into 2076 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.319 the game it is that is noticeable and respectable as 2077 01:34:59.319 --> 01:35:01.680 a single player art even if not everyone loved it. 2078 01:35:02.319 --> 01:35:05.680 It was clearly a rescue project that she is largely 2079 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:09.439 responsible for. Bush now acknowledged the challenges of the game's 2080 01:35:09.439 --> 01:35:11.520 development cycle and the toll it took on her. While 2081 01:35:11.560 --> 01:35:14.159 she believes Bywear is on the right track, culturally. She 2082 01:35:14.239 --> 01:35:16.159 also noted that there is still work to be done. 2083 01:35:17.039 --> 01:35:19.239 But yeah, basically she is going to a new job 2084 01:35:19.319 --> 01:35:21.560 to make a new RPG at a different company after 2085 01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:25.079 eighteen years moving up the chain at EA. And really, 2086 01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:27.319 I think that's what these stories always are. We hear 2087 01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:30.760 about a lot of directors leaving studios after making a project. 2088 01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:34.039 There's only so far you can go up inside of 2089 01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:37.439 a publisher like EA, and eventually then you just run 2090 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:41.359 out of a runway to continue improving your career. So 2091 01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:42.960 at a certain point, if you want to move on, 2092 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:44.560 you got to move on to a place where it's like, well, 2093 01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:48.760 maybe I could see myself becoming a chief executive or 2094 01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.520 a chief creative officer or something like that, And that's 2095 01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:54.199 just not going to happen at EA for someone working 2096 01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:58.520 on the Dragon Age game, at least now, not immediately. 2097 01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:00.920 It would take decades to get to posis yourself in 2098 01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:03.199 that sort of thing. So really this is just, Hey, 2099 01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:05.359 I want to continue growing in my career. This is 2100 01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:08.359 the best way to do that. So yeah, she's moving on, 2101 01:36:08.880 --> 01:36:10.479 and a lot of people at these studios are working 2102 01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:11.560 on mass Efect go ahead. 2103 01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:14.199 And well what the studio I thought that I heard 2104 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:18.520 that one she was fired and that two they're closing 2105 01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:21.479 Bio Where Edmonton because the game was woke and sold bed. 2106 01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:22.000 Yeah. 2107 01:36:22.119 --> 01:36:29.359 So this reporting initially came out of some online weirdos 2108 01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:32.600 who immediately used it to lie that say that the 2109 01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:36.119 studio was closing down, And everyone I've tried to like 2110 01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:39.800 talk to about that says, I, No, there's nothing to that. 2111 01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:45.039 Bio where Edmonton was a reportably going to close down 2112 01:36:45.079 --> 01:36:48.720 in February. According to online liars, people who are their 2113 01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:50.920 whole job is to grift and make people mad about 2114 01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:54.520 wo can get paid money by doing that. Why would 2115 01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:56.039 they have a reason to lie about such a thing. 2116 01:36:56.079 --> 01:36:58.600 I can't imagine, but they did. And so when I 2117 01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:01.199 was originally told about the story, I didn't even know 2118 01:37:01.279 --> 01:37:03.680 about that, but I was told about the story, it 2119 01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:05.720 was just that she's moving on and that's true, and 2120 01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:08.439 the letter is real and here it is, and the 2121 01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:11.159 studio is probably not going to close down. They are 2122 01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:15.880 all working on mass effect. Yeah uh yeah, so thanks. 2123 01:37:16.439 --> 01:37:18.479 I'll continue to still my stories from those guys absolutely, 2124 01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:21.920 Sally guy. Yeah, plagiarism, that's what plagiarism is. 2125 01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:23.199 You're gonna get sued. 2126 01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:24.760 I'm gonna get super plagiarism. 2127 01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:28.840 Yeah, because of your big story, except that you said 2128 01:37:29.039 --> 01:37:33.560 was it'sae. I've been deleting a lot of comments on YouTube, Lily, 2129 01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:36.159 and I'll tell you what. Keep making them chuts originally 2130 01:37:36.239 --> 01:37:38.399 so much joy to delete each of every one of them. 2131 01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:44.359 Man, Yeah, that's right, all right, some more stories here. 2132 01:37:44.439 --> 01:37:47.760 Analysts hope GTA six will cost as much as one 2133 01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:50.800 hundred dollars. Uh, basically an analyst put out some two 2134 01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:53.479 hundred page report. Doesn't seem very good. One of the 2135 01:37:53.520 --> 01:37:57.560 suggestions is that people are hoping that Grand Theft Auto 2136 01:37:57.600 --> 01:37:59.720 six will be one hundred dollars because then that would 2137 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:03.279 give permission and leeway and sort of the cultural space 2138 01:38:03.760 --> 01:38:06.640 for other publishers to charge eighty or ninety dollars for 2139 01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:09.359 their games that are not GTA six, and then that 2140 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:14.079 money will help make this whole business makes sense again, Hey, guys, 2141 01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:15.319 if this is where we're at, we're done. 2142 01:38:15.640 --> 01:38:16.199 We're cooked. 2143 01:38:16.520 --> 01:38:19.479 This is like, this is not not ay charging more 2144 01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:22.720 for your product. I get it, But that is the 2145 01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:26.960 fundamental issue is all these games we continue excuse me 2146 01:38:27.039 --> 01:38:29.960 talking about every week are very expensive and they're competing 2147 01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:34.000 with TikTok, which is free and online and mobile games 2148 01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:36.239 which are free, and that's what's really taking all the 2149 01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:37.920 space out of their rem So what I mean. 2150 01:38:38.199 --> 01:38:40.159 There's so many games where clearly the problem is like 2151 01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:42.079 if people don't really want to spend so many bucks 2152 01:38:42.119 --> 01:38:46.199 on a Star Wars Outbaws right, or even like you know, 2153 01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:49.399 like a foul Fantasy sixteen, it's got These prices are 2154 01:38:49.479 --> 01:38:52.119 kind of tough, right now. I get why these posters 2155 01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:54.239 and developers can feel like that, like, let's be generous 2156 01:38:54.279 --> 01:38:56.439 to say the eighty dollar thing at least, because these 2157 01:38:56.520 --> 01:39:00.640 games are just getting so ridiculously expensive to make, but 2158 01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:04.560 to expect to just raise the price and there not 2159 01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:07.439 be some further massive drop off. I mean, honestly, the 2160 01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:10.199 seventy dollars thing went worse than I expected, right, I 2161 01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:12.359 thought the people would be kind of I think consumers 2162 01:39:12.399 --> 01:39:14.960 can maybe handle that. There's a lot of other economic 2163 01:39:15.439 --> 01:39:18.199 pressures going on there where that didn't fly so well. 2164 01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:20.279 But yeah, we're not. People aren't really on board with 2165 01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:23.640 that yet. Let's not talk about one hundred dollars what. 2166 01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:27.319 Yeah, yeah, go ahead, jam please, Well yeah, when you 2167 01:39:27.479 --> 01:39:32.359 just look at the field and look at uh, the people, 2168 01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:35.960 that kind of lapsed from regularly buying games, and you 2169 01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:38.039 look at the one or two games they play a year. 2170 01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:41.199 Most of the time that one or two games they 2171 01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:43.800 play is on their phone, and it is a free gotcha. 2172 01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:47.039 And sure they are spent. They may spend spend money 2173 01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:50.640 on it, but I know a couple folks that will 2174 01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:55.600 get hours and hours of entertainment for free from playing 2175 01:39:55.640 --> 01:40:00.840 that free to play game. And we're moving towards the 2176 01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:03.520 future where people are just playing one to two games 2177 01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:06.680 a year and just kind of like passively viewing or 2178 01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:11.760 watching people stream other games, having this be the cost 2179 01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:14.279 of entry. I don't think people are going to pony 2180 01:40:14.399 --> 01:40:14.720 up guys. 2181 01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:17.520 You say future kind of just sounds like now. Yeah, 2182 01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:21.039 but again, like you, hey me, I hope people understand 2183 01:40:21.359 --> 01:40:23.960 just because if Grand Theft Aisle six gets away with that, 2184 01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:27.199 that does not mean you are going to get away 2185 01:40:27.279 --> 01:40:27.600 with that. 2186 01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:28.119 Yeah. 2187 01:40:28.239 --> 01:40:31.960 Yeah, Assassin's creen shadows one hundred dollars because GTA six 2188 01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.239 did it. What No, that would never that would never 2189 01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:37.439 be seen in the same way ever. But I mean, 2190 01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:42.039 I think it just overlooks the reality of selling things 2191 01:40:42.079 --> 01:40:44.960 to people, like the GTA six will be one hundred dollars. 2192 01:40:45.079 --> 01:40:47.319 There will be a one hundred dollars version of that game, 2193 01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:49.920 and all Rockstar has to do is give you a 2194 01:40:49.960 --> 01:40:52.520 few things to make you feel special and make you 2195 01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:56.279 feel included. I mean, honestly, if it's a three day 2196 01:40:56.520 --> 01:40:58.720 early access thing and you have to pay one hundred dollars, 2197 01:40:59.119 --> 01:41:03.000 that cop that version of that game sells what a million? 2198 01:41:03.279 --> 01:41:07.279 Two million copies in the first three days easy, probably 2199 01:41:07.399 --> 01:41:10.319 more than that, honestly, but at least a million copies 2200 01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:14.159 in it because like forts Horizon five did that, it 2201 01:41:14.279 --> 01:41:17.520 had the early version for one hundred dollars and it 2202 01:41:17.720 --> 01:41:21.279 had a million copies sold or to those people, So 2203 01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:24.800 you can charge one hundred dollars. You just have to 2204 01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:27.439 make people feel like they're getting away with something and 2205 01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:29.520 that damn it. 2206 01:41:29.720 --> 01:41:32.800 Yes, yeah, all right, okay, Mike, I will give you one. 2207 01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:33.800 Thank you. 2208 01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:35.640 I don't have a cat, but it'd be nice. 2209 01:41:35.720 --> 01:41:38.119 Man. Fortune is really three million, okay, jesus. Yeah. So 2210 01:41:38.319 --> 01:41:41.000 GTA six will do a ton just out of the 2211 01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:43.359 gate at one hundred dollars. So yeah, they will do that. 2212 01:41:43.399 --> 01:41:44.960 But it's like this idea then that that should just 2213 01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.680 be the default price. It's like, no, no one is 2214 01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:51.800 actually having that conversation, it's too flexible the way that 2215 01:41:51.840 --> 01:41:55.319 we viewed the cost of spending on video games, because 2216 01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:57.680 we are so used to sales that we are always 2217 01:41:57.720 --> 01:42:01.319 doing that calculus in our heads. So every single game 2218 01:42:01.439 --> 01:42:05.079 is its own consideration, and GTA six will be a 2219 01:42:05.119 --> 01:42:08.239 special case that you just cannot apply across the entire industry. 2220 01:42:08.800 --> 01:42:09.920 It would never work that way. 2221 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:13.319 Is there a game you would pay one hundred dollars 2222 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:14.800 to maybe play? A week early? 2223 01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:18.880 I remember the conversation that I'm blessing and Tim had 2224 01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:20.720 over a kind of funny when Tiers of the Kingdom 2225 01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:22.560 was coming out, and it was like this was like 2226 01:42:22.760 --> 01:42:25.680 weeks early, maybe months early, and they were talking like 2227 01:42:25.760 --> 01:42:28.399 what price they would pay just to be able to 2228 01:42:28.439 --> 01:42:30.800 make sure that they could play Tiers of the Kingdom, 2229 01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:33.439 And and the price for that got up to like 2230 01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:37.279 one thousand dollars, Like like like if you had if 2231 01:42:37.319 --> 01:42:39.520 you had to pay a thousand dollars the only way 2232 01:42:39.520 --> 01:42:41.520 you could play Tiers of the Kingdom, would you do it? 2233 01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:43.800 And I was in there thinking like, yeah, probably I 2234 01:42:43.880 --> 01:42:46.239 probably would. Yeah, probably I probably would have paid one 2235 01:42:46.239 --> 01:42:46.920 thousand dollars. 2236 01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:48.520 Now what I pay a thousand dollars to play it 2237 01:42:48.560 --> 01:42:50.640 a week early. No, No, not a week or a 2238 01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:51.960 hundred dollars to play it a week early. 2239 01:42:52.159 --> 01:42:52.199 No. 2240 01:42:53.039 --> 01:42:56.279 I think there's occasional times where I might have considered 2241 01:42:56.279 --> 01:42:58.119 one hundred dollars to play something a week early, but 2242 01:42:58.560 --> 01:42:59.479 in these days probably No. 2243 01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:01.920 There's definitely time my life where like I was just like, WHOA, 2244 01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:04.880 I could do this early. Wow, that's a crowd you know, 2245 01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:07.680 I'll pay for that privilege. That's that'sfinitely a thing. I 2246 01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:10.239 think most people get a bit over when they're older, 2247 01:43:10.319 --> 01:43:12.680 and time just starts going by in the bleak of 2248 01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:13.479 an eye. Anyways. 2249 01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:17.920 Yeah, in like Colonel Sanders mentions that this is something 2250 01:43:17.960 --> 01:43:20.279 worth considering as well. You charged one hundred dollars for 2251 01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:23.079 a game in the United States, that game is going 2252 01:43:23.159 --> 01:43:26.159 to be one hundred and fifty dollars in Canada. And 2253 01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:29.119 how do you present that to people? What does that 2254 01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:32.279 look like? Really? It looks kind of insane and like 2255 01:43:32.399 --> 01:43:35.039 this industry has completely gone off the rails, and it 2256 01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:38.119 already does look that way in many cases, but there's 2257 01:43:38.159 --> 01:43:41.079 sort of no hiding it at that point. So I 2258 01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:42.720 think this is just something like it's not like a 2259 01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:46.199 third rail, it's just way more complicated than if GTA 2260 01:43:46.279 --> 01:43:48.439 six does it, everyone else should feel good about raising 2261 01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:51.199 the price. Honestly, if you're one of these companies, you 2262 01:43:51.199 --> 01:43:53.319 should be finding ways to get more creative so you 2263 01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:56.399 can keep the initial price down and find some ways 2264 01:43:56.439 --> 01:43:58.840 to mix more money on the back end. Make people 2265 01:43:58.840 --> 01:44:00.760 feel good about my kirtran actions. I don't know how 2266 01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:03.119 to do that, but that that's a better bet than 2267 01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:05.960 charging more of back to horse armor and cat helmets. 2268 01:44:06.119 --> 01:44:07.439 Had it right the three sixty era. 2269 01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:09.920 I'm fine with Michael Transactions. 2270 01:44:10.920 --> 01:44:15.680 Is all right? Yeah, yeah, let's see here, Jamie h Christmas. 2271 01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:17.720 You just dropped this one. Okay. Reflect Or Entertainment had 2272 01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:19.560 some layoffs. Yeah, I don't think layoffs are going to 2273 01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:21.439 slow down. We had that. We did. Just talk about 2274 01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:24.960 that Dragon Age story. Why well, I don't think buy 2275 01:44:24.960 --> 01:44:27.439 where Edmonton is closing. Pretty sure it's not. That doesn't 2276 01:44:27.439 --> 01:44:29.119 mean there will not be any more layoffs at e A. 2277 01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:33.000 E A probably will have more ways. So all right, 2278 01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:36.600 let's see here I am on this one. Marvel Snap 2279 01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:39.520 temporarily went offline as part of the TikTok band in 2280 01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:41.439 the United States, So what am I supposed to do 2281 01:44:41.520 --> 01:44:47.399 all driving now? Guys. This Byte Dance is the company 2282 01:44:47.439 --> 01:44:51.800 that publishes a Marvel Snap and the responsible for TikTok. 2283 01:44:52.920 --> 01:44:57.680 TikTok was banned and then they like came back even 2284 01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:00.000 though it wasn't unbanned because Trump was going to be pressed. 2285 01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:02.479 And it fucking sucks out here, everybody. I don't know 2286 01:45:02.520 --> 01:45:04.880 if you've been paying attention, but it sucks. It's the worst. 2287 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:05.479 Uh. 2288 01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:08.680 And as part of that, Marvel Snap got caught up 2289 01:45:08.720 --> 01:45:11.079 in it because Byte Dance couldn't publish stuff in the 2290 01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:14.640 United States or something. Again, none of it really made sense, 2291 01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:18.479 but Marvel Snap going offline surprise the people making Marvel 2292 01:45:18.520 --> 01:45:21.079 Snap to the point where now they are looking for 2293 01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:23.640 a different publisher. So they're like, this will never happen again. 2294 01:45:23.720 --> 01:45:25.359 We don't want this to happen again, so we are 2295 01:45:25.399 --> 01:45:27.359 going to try to leave Byte Dance and find someone else. 2296 01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:30.319 Something pretty stressful few days for him one at second 2297 01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:31.359 dinner there. Geez. 2298 01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:35.800 Yeah, it's not like, you know, going twelve hours without 2299 01:45:35.920 --> 01:45:38.439 revenue is like an easy thing to go through for 2300 01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:40.439 any company. But this is the free to play mobile 2301 01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:42.800 game where you're always trying to keep your momentum. Any 2302 01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:45.079 sort of speed bump like that is going to throw 2303 01:45:45.159 --> 01:45:47.840 off everything for you. And now it's like their revenues 2304 01:45:47.880 --> 01:45:49.880 might come up short for the quarter because of this. 2305 01:45:50.039 --> 01:45:54.239 It's yeah, it's a tough situation. But yeah, I don't know. 2306 01:45:54.319 --> 01:45:58.000 TikTok's back, Marvel Snap is back. Nothing matters, So I 2307 01:45:58.000 --> 01:45:58.760 don't know. Keep playing. 2308 01:45:58.800 --> 01:45:59.960 TikTok's not completely bad. 2309 01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:03.640 I don't really, I stop checking. I don't care anymore, 2310 01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:08.199 all right. A new ESRB ratings suggests a classic Well, 2311 01:46:08.680 --> 01:46:11.520 Resident Evil is getting an Xbox Series and PS five 2312 01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:14.960 re release. This is rising in Evil six. It got 2313 01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:17.600 an M rating from Yeah that's the face, there you go, 2314 01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:20.000 that's the sound. Yeah, they called it a classic in 2315 01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:21.199 this headline over at VGC. 2316 01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:21.720 Yeah. 2317 01:46:22.680 --> 01:46:24.640 This game came out for the Xbox through sixteen PS 2318 01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:27.239 three in October twenty twelve. It was then ported to 2319 01:46:27.359 --> 01:46:29.960 Xbox One and PS four in March of twenty sixteen. 2320 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:32.720 So this game already works in a pretty good state 2321 01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:36.760 on Xbox Series X and S and the PS five. 2322 01:46:37.399 --> 01:46:39.760 What this suggest is this will now get a native 2323 01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:43.600 version on Xbox Series X and S. And although a 2324 01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:46.880 PS five version has not been given the s SRB rating, 2325 01:46:47.039 --> 01:46:51.039 the assumption would be that would happen as well. What 2326 01:46:51.399 --> 01:46:53.960 do you guys think this is like a full remaster? 2327 01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:55.119 Clearly not a remax. 2328 01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:59.000 They don't want four level Like, no, it's I played 2329 01:46:59.039 --> 01:46:59.319 through this. 2330 01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:02.800 I played one of the four campaigns, like maybe in 2331 01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:05.399 the last two years with Kayla, right, yeah. 2332 01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:06.840 You streamed it with Kayla. I remember watching that and 2333 01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:08.680 being like that, this is the way for me to 2334 01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:11.000 engage with this game is watch Dan and Kayla play it. 2335 01:47:11.239 --> 01:47:13.880 Yeah, and like, I think she's beating every Resident Evil, 2336 01:47:13.960 --> 01:47:16.119 but that like the Cores series, and I think it's 2337 01:47:16.159 --> 01:47:19.399 the only number Resident Evil I haven't beat, just because 2338 01:47:19.399 --> 01:47:22.119 it's like it is way longer than it needs to be. 2339 01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:25.279 And as much as I love big stupid action, it's 2340 01:47:25.359 --> 01:47:27.600 not really what I want from my Resident Evil. And 2341 01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:31.359 it just felt cheap, like I don't know, just something 2342 01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:33.800 about controlling it, Like those games are always so tight 2343 01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:36.000 and this one just felt like a B game. 2344 01:47:36.199 --> 01:47:39.159 Basically, we don't need any one of these. 2345 01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:40.000 Yeah. 2346 01:47:41.359 --> 01:47:43.439 I've been getting so into Resident Evil lately though, and 2347 01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:45.359 this is like one of the once I ever played 2348 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:46.520 much because that demo for. 2349 01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:48.439 It was so bad. I'll played with you were bad. 2350 01:47:48.720 --> 01:47:50.920 Yeah, I'm like, I'm kind of happy I'm like, I 2351 01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:53.039 want to play this shit. I want to see what's 2352 01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:55.960 going on with Resident Evil six. I definitely don't think 2353 01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:59.039 that this like bes anything in terms of like the 2354 01:47:59.119 --> 01:48:01.840 full blown remake or the number of entries coming out. 2355 01:48:01.880 --> 01:48:03.760 I think this is just, hey, we can do like 2356 01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:06.560 a little bit of something something here to release a 2357 01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:09.680 PS five and Xbox series and probably a switch to 2358 01:48:10.199 --> 01:48:11.439 the version of this very likely. 2359 01:48:11.640 --> 01:48:14.920 So I did six come to switch one? I think 2360 01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:15.439 it might have. 2361 01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:18.880 No, I don't don't know if it ever did. Five, 2362 01:48:19.079 --> 01:48:20.760 did it five? And four did? 2363 01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:23.119 That's the thing, like, asides from you know, just the 2364 01:48:23.199 --> 01:48:26.279 backwards compatibility with the PS four version, I don't think 2365 01:48:26.359 --> 01:48:29.520 this has ever really been Oh there's a cloud version 2366 01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:31.960 of shit? 2367 01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:33.920 Yeah? Wow. 2368 01:48:34.479 --> 01:48:36.439 Honestly, if you're illegal. 2369 01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:38.239 Maybe the timing does make more sense for what you said, 2370 01:48:38.239 --> 01:48:40.960 there's like a native version getting updated for switch to, 2371 01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:42.359 so they're like, well, why don't we just do it 2372 01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:44.520 for everything at the same time? That might be of 2373 01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:45.600 what is happening here. 2374 01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:48.600 Right, Yeah, I'm still so curious to see what the 2375 01:48:48.760 --> 01:48:51.159 next remake is. We're probably gonna hear about it RESUL 2376 01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:53.520 nine f ust but you know, cause it could be five. 2377 01:48:53.640 --> 01:48:56.279 It could be Code Raka, could be zero, could be one. 2378 01:48:56.359 --> 01:48:59.439 Again, the rumors leave off. Did I think the last 2379 01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:02.640 round of Remembers was Code Veronica? My last rumor sived. 2380 01:49:02.479 --> 01:49:05.840 Code Veronica Positive, which is I think the most exciting 2381 01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:11.439 one personally. But we'll see. Well, it was so confusing 2382 01:49:11.439 --> 01:49:13.960 because Reside Will six so really well for some reason, 2383 01:49:14.079 --> 01:49:17.600 even though everyone said it was bad and I never 2384 01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:20.359 knew anybody who played it, I always every on's while 2385 01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:23.600 I'm like, I think they're just lying. I don't think 2386 01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:26.239 that's true. I don't think resid six is the best 2387 01:49:26.520 --> 01:49:28.239 receival game. I refuse to believe that. 2388 01:49:28.479 --> 01:49:32.119 It's a tough, tough one. But yeah that I think 2389 01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:35.399 Resident Evil for Remake is now on its way to 2390 01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:36.000 beat the. 2391 01:49:36.119 --> 01:49:39.840 Fastest selling one. Yes, it should be so good. 2392 01:49:40.760 --> 01:49:42.800 Uh yeah, Okay, so there's some mix up. I think 2393 01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:45.640 Sean's saying that the Reduvil six on switch is native, 2394 01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:47.720 which you know it was a three sixty game. Why 2395 01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:48.199 wouldn't it. 2396 01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:50.359 Be Yeah, gosh, okay, man, I didn't even know it 2397 01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:50.960 was on the switch. 2398 01:49:51.039 --> 01:49:53.399 It came out in twenty nineteen, according to the AAH 2399 01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:54.479 Sound under the Radar. 2400 01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:58.960 Okay, yep, all right, Resievil seven is the club version, 2401 01:49:59.000 --> 01:49:59.760 think you show Yeah. 2402 01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:01.680 That's right. Yeah, I guess last. I think you're right 2403 01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:03.439 like that. It's like this is not part of what 2404 01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:05.680 they're doing with the numbered remix, but I think this 2405 01:50:05.840 --> 01:50:07.800 is like this is what sex is going to get 2406 01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:09.720 as part of that process, right. 2407 01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:14.079 Yeah, they ever think it gets a remake because like 2408 01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:15.960 maybe it's a we make good thing. 2409 01:50:16.039 --> 01:50:17.960 It could be a pretty extensive remake. I don't know. 2410 01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:20.199 Okay, well, you know, not never in the history of 2411 01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:22.800 the world. But I don't think it's like in their 2412 01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:24.600 cards at the moment. I think you. 2413 01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:27.680 Exhaust all the other options stres Yes, exactly. 2414 01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:30.680 Maybe you do it like a fourth or fifth Resident 2415 01:50:30.680 --> 01:50:32.640 Evil one remake before you get that again? 2416 01:50:32.760 --> 01:50:35.399 Why remake only the DS version? 2417 01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:36.119 Yeah? 2418 01:50:36.359 --> 01:50:38.720 Okay, we go game the Game Boy Color one. 2419 01:50:38.880 --> 01:50:43.039 Yeah, remake Residentval Guidance, Yeah, perfect, all right. 2420 01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:46.479 PS five Dinosaur Horror game is skipping a PC release 2421 01:50:46.560 --> 01:50:48.239 to avoid sexualized mods. 2422 01:50:48.279 --> 01:50:50.720 What Yeah? 2423 01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:51.680 Since there? 2424 01:50:51.920 --> 01:50:55.279 Dinosaur Horror Game Code Violet will be released exclusively exclusively 2425 01:50:55.319 --> 01:50:57.439 for PS five this July, and the developer stated it 2426 01:50:57.479 --> 01:50:59.319 doesn't want to go to PC due to concerns about 2427 01:50:59.319 --> 01:51:03.319 players creating sexualized mods of the game's characters. Someone on 2428 01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:05.600 Blue Sky pointed out that this sounds like a Tim 2429 01:51:05.720 --> 01:51:09.119 Robinson sketch where he's like in the room trying to explain, No, 2430 01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:12.920 you can't put it on PC. They're gonna fuck the dinosaurs. 2431 01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:15.199 We just can't do it. You see a dinosaur, how 2432 01:51:15.239 --> 01:51:17.199 do you not fuck it? You definitely have to fuck it. 2433 01:51:17.359 --> 01:51:23.760 So question if people are wanting to fuck the dinosaurs, why, 2434 01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:28.119 why does that hurt the game makers? 2435 01:51:28.720 --> 01:51:32.199 I don't know. In fact, and if history has anything 2436 01:51:32.359 --> 01:51:34.840 to say about this, it is it only helps the 2437 01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:36.000 people make Yeah. 2438 01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:41.920 Yeah, problem really you know? Yeah, I mean maybe they're puritans. 2439 01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:44.840 I don't know, they're lying. Maybe they just don't want 2440 01:51:44.880 --> 01:51:47.159 to it sounds hard to make a PC part. They'll 2441 01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:50.600 just say this. It sounds nice, right. I think we 2442 01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:53.319 respect our actors or whatever. That's what it's about. 2443 01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:54.800 I don't know. 2444 01:51:54.960 --> 01:51:57.960 Dan, just like cap Cover six, it one's lying. 2445 01:51:59.239 --> 01:52:00.880 I'm gonna say that. I don't think we need to 2446 01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:04.479 respect dinosaurs. Yeah, what are they gonna do? 2447 01:52:04.840 --> 01:52:06.880 Go fuck the dinosaurs? I don't care. I'm not judging. 2448 01:52:06.920 --> 01:52:08.359 If you said that on Blue Sky, you'd have at 2449 01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.119 least five replies, being like naturally. 2450 01:52:14.760 --> 01:52:17.279 Yeah, I've definitely noticed more of that since you said 2451 01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:21.760 that last time. Destroy the discover tab please. Yeah. It 2452 01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:24.520 is like you just can't find the balance of social media. 2453 01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:27.279 It's either all people trying to destroy everything all the 2454 01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:30.520 time or yeah, yeah, they. 2455 01:52:32.279 --> 01:52:33.800 I'm afraid we might have sailed past. 2456 01:52:34.079 --> 01:52:36.359 Yeah, we definitely pasted the honeymoon period there. 2457 01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:39.399 They said, I will punch a Nazi in the fucking mouth. 2458 01:52:39.680 --> 01:52:40.960 Don't come after me. 2459 01:52:41.399 --> 01:52:47.239 Yeah, there a new feature we've got cooking you stupid bitch. 2460 01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:54.079 Yep eat ship all right, no nightmare, Nightmare jan after 2461 01:52:54.119 --> 01:52:58.800 all the Nazis. Hell Yeah, Team Jerry Brake, Team Jerry, 2462 01:52:58.920 --> 01:53:00.600 Team Cherry Jerry. 2463 01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:05.079 Team Jerry way ahead of Team Tom right now thinks 2464 01:53:05.119 --> 01:53:10.359 everybody Team Team Jerry breaks Hollow Night's silk song Radio Silence. 2465 01:53:10.560 --> 01:53:14.439 Yes, it's real progressing and will release Mike. You're right, 2466 01:53:14.560 --> 01:53:16.920 everybody's lying. They're just out there lying. 2467 01:53:17.039 --> 01:53:24.239 This thing's going great, everybody. Yeah, I'm still I'm pointed 2468 01:53:24.239 --> 01:53:26.399 out a little bit of hope for like, this thing's 2469 01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:29.119 gonna show up, but that switch to direct as maybe 2470 01:53:29.159 --> 01:53:30.199 a switchhoe launch game. 2471 01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:33.760 Then if it's not there, I'm gonna be like something's wrong. 2472 01:53:35.560 --> 01:53:35.880 Wrong. 2473 01:53:37.600 --> 01:53:39.760 I mean just to like give the timeline again. The 2474 01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:44.720 game appeared in the twenty twenty three Xbox Summer Game 2475 01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:48.159 Fest thing and and if you if people remember a 2476 01:53:48.239 --> 01:53:51.119 whole bit with that, the gimmick was everything in this 2477 01:53:51.199 --> 01:53:53.720 showcase will be out within the next twelve months. And 2478 01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:57.119 I think since then every game that was in there, 2479 01:53:57.199 --> 01:53:59.439 a lot, most of them got delayed, most of them 2480 01:53:59.479 --> 01:54:01.359 did not come out in the twelve months. But thinks 2481 01:54:01.399 --> 01:54:04.840 since then every single game has come out, including like 2482 01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:08.239 Stalker two if that was in there, just not Spoon 2483 01:54:08.359 --> 01:54:11.439 Heaven upon Heaven. Spoon Heaven's your one game. 2484 01:54:11.960 --> 01:54:16.239 That is not hate you grub because anytime I see 2485 01:54:16.319 --> 01:54:18.680 Silk Song, I don't know what it is. I'm like, 2486 01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:20.520 what are we gonna hear about Spoon Heaven? 2487 01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:22.159 Well, how do you think I feel? I didn't know 2488 01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:23.640 in the first place. I'm like, I think it's called 2489 01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:24.239 spoon Heaven. 2490 01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:28.399 There's no spoons, there's no heaven. 2491 01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:29.760 What they can come from. 2492 01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:31.800 Place? 2493 01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:35.239 He has a need all. I think that somebot needle 2494 01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:40.279 turned to fork fork. There was between there. Yeah, it 2495 01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:43.640 was a spork period. That was the gradient, and then 2496 01:54:43.680 --> 01:54:45.399 we just got the spoon of it. I mean, look, 2497 01:54:46.239 --> 01:54:48.159 this game has a lot of hand drawn art, so 2498 01:54:48.319 --> 01:54:50.279 maybe the scope of it is just difficult, and it's 2499 01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:53.159 just difficult waiting on all those assets being made right. 2500 01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:56.079 Skill maybe got a little out of control. I don't 2501 01:54:56.119 --> 01:54:58.800 actually think there's this game never comes out. That would 2502 01:54:58.840 --> 01:55:01.319 be pretty wild. But like, of course, you know, you know, 2503 01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:06.600 we saw like with Sports Story, right all, like that 2504 01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:09.079 drama that can kind of happen sometimes with these more teams. 2505 01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:11.840 And I'm not trying to say that that's what's happening here, 2506 01:55:12.359 --> 01:55:14.760 but it's hard to not speculate like what's going on 2507 01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:19.359 or things, you know, smoothing smoothing, sailing smoothly over there, 2508 01:55:19.479 --> 01:55:24.039 aka smoothing at the moment. Ah, I just want to 2509 01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:26.079 see more of this game. I like first of all, 2510 01:55:26.239 --> 01:55:28.279 night a lots. I would love to play Spoon Heaven. 2511 01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:32.479 Yeah, I think that the uh, this just happens with 2512 01:55:32.560 --> 01:55:34.680 indie games. Like you said, they have they put out 2513 01:55:34.680 --> 01:55:36.159 a game, they want to do the follow up, and 2514 01:55:36.199 --> 01:55:39.079 they just put so much pressure and perfectionism on themselves 2515 01:55:39.199 --> 01:55:42.680 to get everything right. And really these days, when you 2516 01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:45.000 have a successful indie game, that thing just keeps selling 2517 01:55:45.159 --> 01:55:47.880 and it keeps funding all that development, So you can 2518 01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:49.960 take your time. There is no reason to rush it out. 2519 01:55:49.960 --> 01:55:52.800 You can make Delta Rune parts over the course of years. 2520 01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:54.600 You remember Haunted Chocolate. 2521 01:55:54.399 --> 01:55:57.159 Ear take a break, Haunted Chocolateer Exactly, let's go. I 2522 01:55:57.239 --> 01:55:58.359 want to go. I just want to keep working on 2523 01:55:58.439 --> 01:56:01.079 Starty Value, and I can because the money keeps rolling 2524 01:56:01.079 --> 01:56:03.439 in from that first game. My needs are met and 2525 01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:06.079 I'm not some crazy person that has to always be growing. 2526 01:56:06.439 --> 01:56:08.920 I could just fund my life, work on the projects 2527 01:56:08.920 --> 01:56:11.119 I want to work on, and at my own pace. 2528 01:56:11.239 --> 01:56:13.399 I just think that's always what happens with these indie games, 2529 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:15.319 and this one just happens to be maybe a little 2530 01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:17.239 bit more ambitious, so they're taking even more time. 2531 01:56:17.359 --> 01:56:20.680 Maybe they got to redraw all the assets because people 2532 01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:22.000 keep calling it Spoon Heaven. 2533 01:56:23.319 --> 01:56:26.479 Maybe we should probably rework this whole thing. 2534 01:56:26.720 --> 01:56:29.600 Think anybody at that studio is aware of Jeff calling 2535 01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:29.920 the game? 2536 01:56:30.800 --> 01:56:35.000 Yes, there is no way, Yeah, tem Cherry, if there's 2537 01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:37.479 a team Jerry, if if there's like at least one 2538 01:56:37.680 --> 01:56:41.359 Spoon Heaven reference in that game, Like I can't. 2539 01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:43.239 Even cause the game to take another six months. 2540 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:47.239 It's worth It's. 2541 01:56:46.199 --> 01:56:50.119 Worth it because just because every time we bring it up, 2542 01:56:50.239 --> 01:56:53.920 someone like on Twitter or Blue Sky or someone will 2543 01:56:54.279 --> 01:56:57.079 mention spoon Heaven. It's it's over brothers, So yeah, I 2544 01:56:57.079 --> 01:57:01.159 think they probably know about it. Let's go spook all right, 2545 01:57:01.239 --> 01:57:05.119 last story here, Mexico tariffs could lead to fewer physical 2546 01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:09.600 game releases and increased software prices. US President Donald Trump 2547 01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:13.319 proposed twenty five percent tariff on imports from Mexico and Canada. 2548 01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:15.960 He says he wants to pass that on February first, 2549 01:57:16.399 --> 01:57:18.800 and that could lead to fewer physical game releases and 2550 01:57:18.840 --> 01:57:22.279 higher software prices in the US because, as Matt Piscatella, 2551 01:57:22.439 --> 01:57:25.399 executive director of video games at market research firm Circana, 2552 01:57:25.479 --> 01:57:29.359 points out, a lot of the discs that we play 2553 01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:33.319 and buy are manufactured in Mexico. A lot of the 2554 01:57:33.399 --> 01:57:36.600 infrastructure for bringing those discs into the United States is 2555 01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:39.560 in Mexico. So if there's a tariff across the board, 2556 01:57:39.600 --> 01:57:41.920 twenty five percent tariff on everything that comes from Mexico, 2557 01:57:42.359 --> 01:57:45.760 that's an immediate twenty five percent cost increase to bring 2558 01:57:46.199 --> 01:57:48.479 physical games to the United States. If you want to 2559 01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:51.000 destroy the physical game market, this is a good way 2560 01:57:51.039 --> 01:57:51.319 to do it. 2561 01:57:52.119 --> 01:57:57.079 Now, my eggs, yeah, right, And this is a just. 2562 01:57:57.560 --> 01:57:59.920 A crazy, stupid thing. It won't benefit anybody. It's just 2563 01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:00.920 it's just a tax. 2564 01:58:01.359 --> 01:58:01.479 Uh. 2565 01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:03.720 But they do this because then it's they can have 2566 01:58:03.840 --> 01:58:06.319 these flat taxes that everyone has to pay. And they're like, oh, 2567 01:58:06.399 --> 01:58:07.760 well that will make it up when we cut the 2568 01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:10.840 taxes for billionaires going forward, and or so won't. But 2569 01:58:11.159 --> 01:58:13.039 that's the plan, and we all have to pay for 2570 01:58:13.119 --> 01:58:15.520 it by spending more on games. And really they will 2571 01:58:15.640 --> 01:58:18.720 just release fewer physical games. They will they will pick 2572 01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:22.079 and choose like which games get They are already doing this, 2573 01:58:22.520 --> 01:58:25.720 but they will be even more like specific with what 2574 01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:27.640 the kinds of games that actually get approved to get 2575 01:58:27.680 --> 01:58:30.159 physical versions going forward if this does go through. Now, 2576 01:58:30.760 --> 01:58:33.199 of course there could be exceptions. There are always exceptions 2577 01:58:33.199 --> 01:58:35.439 to these tariffs, but there's just no reason to assume 2578 01:58:35.520 --> 01:58:37.199 video games would be able to get in there, other than, 2579 01:58:37.560 --> 01:58:40.079 of course, number one gamer in the world is in 2580 01:58:40.159 --> 01:58:42.880 the administration, so maybe maybe he can help out there. 2581 01:58:43.039 --> 01:58:47.399 I don't know. I want to throttle them, Yeah, I 2582 01:58:47.520 --> 01:58:49.439 want to hurt him. I could say that one right 2583 01:58:49.560 --> 01:58:50.239 he's not president. 2584 01:58:50.399 --> 01:58:53.199 Yeah, no, I don't even care if he is. I'll 2585 01:58:53.279 --> 01:58:54.520 fucking punch him in the face. 2586 01:58:56.439 --> 01:59:01.079 It's it's a it's bad it's just a rate of shit. Sorry, 2587 01:59:01.079 --> 01:59:05.199 everyone who's feeling especially targeted. Trans writes to all y'all 2588 01:59:05.199 --> 01:59:09.000 out there. You know, we got some emails later, but 2589 01:59:09.079 --> 01:59:10.319 I don't know if we'll get to all of them. 2590 01:59:10.359 --> 01:59:14.039 But someone mentioned like, you know the parasocial relationships. I 2591 01:59:14.199 --> 01:59:16.399 know that you know these sorts of relationships. When you 2592 01:59:16.439 --> 01:59:19.359 listen to a podcast like this and you are, you 2593 01:59:19.399 --> 01:59:20.880 feel like you have a home like Sometimes they could 2594 01:59:20.880 --> 01:59:23.760 be unfulfilling because it's not a personal relationship. There are 2595 01:59:23.920 --> 01:59:25.720 sides to this where you can still take advantage of that. 2596 01:59:25.800 --> 01:59:28.000 Get in the discord, come hang out with the people 2597 01:59:28.039 --> 01:59:30.119 that have like minded interest as you will, try to 2598 01:59:30.199 --> 01:59:32.319 keep creating a safe space so you could feel like 2599 01:59:32.399 --> 01:59:34.880 you have some ground to go to. It's kind of 2600 01:59:34.920 --> 01:59:36.680 the best we have to offer right now while we're 2601 01:59:36.680 --> 01:59:39.720 all reeling. So yeah, we'll try to have your back 2602 01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:42.920 as best we can. Jan that does it for the headlines. 2603 01:59:43.039 --> 01:59:43.960 This shows back over you. 2604 01:59:44.800 --> 01:59:47.119 I need to go take a quick bricky break to 2605 01:59:47.199 --> 01:59:50.159 go punch some people in the face. I strongly suggest 2606 01:59:50.319 --> 01:59:52.960 y'all go do that as well, and we'll be back 2607 01:59:53.039 --> 02:00:07.560 with some emails. Emails. Bombcastagiant bomb dot com is the 2608 02:00:07.600 --> 02:00:10.319 email address to send your emails to. You can send 2609 02:00:10.319 --> 02:00:12.960 an email about virtually any and everything. And I got 2610 02:00:13.079 --> 02:00:15.680 to give a special shouts out to y'all. We have 2611 02:00:15.800 --> 02:00:19.840 actually had a flood of emails come in. Uh people 2612 02:00:19.920 --> 02:00:20.520 listen to the show. 2613 02:00:20.600 --> 02:00:23.159 Hey, I appreciate you. I appreciate you. 2614 02:00:23.239 --> 02:00:25.479 For sending a shoot email in and having a question 2615 02:00:26.039 --> 02:00:28.239 and sometimes we may not be able to get to it, 2616 02:00:28.359 --> 02:00:33.479 but I appreciate it none the less. First email is 2617 02:00:33.520 --> 02:00:40.399 about Mega Man. Emailer rights in and asks, hey, dudeers, 2618 02:00:40.760 --> 02:00:44.399 I just got into the Chinese handheld game over Christmas 2619 02:00:44.479 --> 02:00:47.560 and got my AP and ver Nick up and running. 2620 02:00:47.840 --> 02:00:50.359 One series I've always wanted to play but never touched 2621 02:00:50.600 --> 02:00:53.319 is Mega Man. I was wondering if Mike or Jan 2622 02:00:53.680 --> 02:00:56.720 or anyone else had recommendations for where to start, whether 2623 02:00:56.800 --> 02:01:00.920 it's X Battle Network or the Core series. Thanks guys, 2624 02:01:01.199 --> 02:01:02.920 thanks for writing the experts. I'm here to help you. 2625 02:01:03.039 --> 02:01:04.720 Mighty number nine is a video. 2626 02:01:04.600 --> 02:01:10.560 Game never mind, just just a liar and he loves 2627 02:01:10.560 --> 02:01:11.439 the Steel exclusives. 2628 02:01:11.439 --> 02:01:13.680 Everyone yelling one line, damn. 2629 02:01:13.920 --> 02:01:14.960 Give me them sclusies. 2630 02:01:15.640 --> 02:01:17.359 So you don't know what that exclusive means? 2631 02:01:17.960 --> 02:01:19.960 Oh? Oh not us? 2632 02:01:20.079 --> 02:01:23.720 I yeah you j. 2633 02:01:26.079 --> 02:01:29.159 I am a big core Mega Man guy first and foremost. 2634 02:01:29.319 --> 02:01:31.439 I know, you know, it depends how good your ANYS 2635 02:01:31.479 --> 02:01:33.399 games you want to play it an nes Mega Man 2636 02:01:33.520 --> 02:01:36.000 game five doesn't get talked about a lot. It's a 2637 02:01:36.039 --> 02:01:36.840 bit easier than some. 2638 02:01:36.920 --> 02:01:40.439 Of the other ones, though, I think if you want to, like, 2639 02:01:40.479 --> 02:01:42.239 if you're dipping your toe in to Mega Man, I'd 2640 02:01:42.279 --> 02:01:44.039 say two, But. 2641 02:01:46.119 --> 02:01:48.279 Guy, I would to I like three more than two. 2642 02:01:48.439 --> 02:01:50.600 I think that five is a little bit more first 2643 02:01:50.680 --> 02:01:53.239 time friendlier. Let mean, you have the chart shot, you 2644 02:01:53.359 --> 02:01:57.199 have the slide I love too. I think you better ultimately, 2645 02:01:57.640 --> 02:01:59.960 but five is also very good and just a little 2646 02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:02.319 bit easier. But hey, look, you could also just go 2647 02:02:02.880 --> 02:02:05.960 and play Mega Man two. Understand when you play these games, 2648 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:07.880 they're like, look up the bus order. 2649 02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:08.720 We all do that. 2650 02:02:09.039 --> 02:02:11.079 It's fine. You don't have to go stumble in the 2651 02:02:11.199 --> 02:02:15.600 dark through that stuff. Mega Man X one also still 2652 02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:18.520 just very very very good. Megan x four is the 2653 02:02:18.600 --> 02:02:21.680 other X game that you should maybe check out, but 2654 02:02:22.039 --> 02:02:22.600 don't sleep on. 2655 02:02:22.760 --> 02:02:23.159 Legends. 2656 02:02:23.359 --> 02:02:26.640 Mega Man Legends is still just very pretty and unique 2657 02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:28.720 in a lot of ways, a ton of fun to 2658 02:02:28.840 --> 02:02:31.640 have with Legends. The Bound Network games are very good. 2659 02:02:31.680 --> 02:02:35.560 It's very very different different thing though. Yeah, if you 2660 02:02:35.920 --> 02:02:39.119 are into turn based or RPG games, maybe that's more 2661 02:02:39.159 --> 02:02:42.239 of your flavor than Definitely try the Battle Network series. 2662 02:02:42.399 --> 02:02:44.880 Like Mike said, it's very different. There's not a lot, 2663 02:02:45.079 --> 02:02:48.479 there's no platforming in it. But actually, if you wind 2664 02:02:48.560 --> 02:02:50.319 up kind of clicking with any of the Mega Man 2665 02:02:50.560 --> 02:02:53.720 X games, I would suggest trying out the Mega Man 2666 02:02:54.159 --> 02:02:57.039 zero games that came out on the GBA. Some solid 2667 02:02:57.079 --> 02:03:01.119 titles there, tons, especially Zero, but like those games are 2668 02:03:01.920 --> 02:03:04.800 more story important than some of the other ones. I thought, 2669 02:03:04.800 --> 02:03:06.319 there's a ton of it. Don't worry. There are big 2670 02:03:06.399 --> 02:03:08.560 talkie games. Hey, you should just play those. 2671 02:03:08.520 --> 02:03:14.920 In order, all right. Next email, Grubbery talked about this 2672 02:03:15.159 --> 02:03:19.000 briefly before the break comes from Josh in London. Hey BombCast. 2673 02:03:19.439 --> 02:03:22.239 Back during the holiday season, while wrapping presents with my partner, 2674 02:03:22.319 --> 02:03:24.680 I put on the Giant Bomb at nights stream segment 2675 02:03:24.720 --> 02:03:27.039 when the whole GB crew was on the couch. My 2676 02:03:27.119 --> 02:03:29.760 partner was curious about each GB cast member, so I 2677 02:03:29.760 --> 02:03:31.960 gave her the rundown on each person, their role and 2678 02:03:32.039 --> 02:03:35.279 a little about their character. Her response was simply, do 2679 02:03:35.399 --> 02:03:38.119 you think you have a bit of a parasocial relationship 2680 02:03:38.159 --> 02:03:40.880 with these people? I mean, she's not wrong, but it 2681 02:03:41.000 --> 02:03:43.600 just can't be helped. Podcasts are so weird you spend 2682 02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:46.159 hours upon hours listening to random people speak, end of 2683 02:03:46.279 --> 02:03:50.159 absorbing a lot of weird, detailed information about those people 2684 02:03:50.399 --> 02:03:51.560 if they don't even. 2685 02:03:51.439 --> 02:03:52.039 Know you exist. 2686 02:03:52.520 --> 02:03:56.520 I am a real human being. I exist. Anyway, Do 2687 02:03:56.680 --> 02:04:00.720 you guys have any one sided Pronthesi's polite parasocial relationships 2688 02:04:00.760 --> 02:04:04.199 with any of the authors, filmmakers, podcast hosts, or general 2689 02:04:04.239 --> 02:04:05.880 online slash media personalities. 2690 02:04:06.319 --> 02:04:06.520 Yes. 2691 02:04:06.920 --> 02:04:11.560 The irony of this email, Deepening Deepening said paranormal relationship 2692 02:04:11.720 --> 02:04:14.640 is not lost on me. From Josh in London, I'm. 2693 02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:17.920 I would be very curious to hear the rundowns like 2694 02:04:19.119 --> 02:04:21.319 the back of the box, like here's the deal with my. 2695 02:04:22.840 --> 02:04:23.039 Level? 2696 02:04:23.359 --> 02:04:25.000 Yeah, the best of what he does? 2697 02:04:25.399 --> 02:04:26.920 Like who is telling you for us? 2698 02:04:26.920 --> 02:04:28.640 Who is the Mario of the team. 2699 02:04:29.079 --> 02:04:31.119 I wanted to be like the X Men trading cards 2700 02:04:31.199 --> 02:04:35.199 that had like like fighting ability and power level and 2701 02:04:35.239 --> 02:04:36.399 things like that, And then a little. 2702 02:04:36.159 --> 02:04:39.920 Blurb Yeah, yeah, I still have a ton of these 2703 02:04:40.039 --> 02:04:42.079 kind of you know, parasocial relationships. 2704 02:04:42.279 --> 02:04:45.359 Yeah, it just it happens. There's something inherently wrong with that. 2705 02:04:45.479 --> 02:04:47.560 It only gets wrong when the people start being like 2706 02:04:47.680 --> 02:04:49.800 weird about it, right, and we all know the many 2707 02:04:49.800 --> 02:04:51.800 ways you can be weird about it, especially like the 2708 02:04:51.840 --> 02:04:54.760 food YouTubers. I watch so many of those guys, right, 2709 02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:57.359 and they put out multiple videos a week, and I'm 2710 02:04:57.399 --> 02:04:59.800 just constantly watching them, and I know the way they 2711 02:05:00.319 --> 02:05:03.760 I know they're little quirks and all this stuff. So, yeah, 2712 02:05:03.800 --> 02:05:07.239 you kind of develop that one way relationship, and I still, 2713 02:05:07.800 --> 02:05:09.520 you know, there's there's some people like, oh, I don't 2714 02:05:09.520 --> 02:05:10.840 know if I should go up and say hi to them, 2715 02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:14.000 Like Spike Vegeta in Halved with Games done quick right, 2716 02:05:14.239 --> 02:05:16.079 second year in a row, I didn't have the courage 2717 02:05:16.319 --> 02:05:19.600 to say hi to Spike Vegeta. Right, I don't mind 2718 02:05:19.600 --> 02:05:22.479 you having a parasocial relationship with me. You can also 2719 02:05:22.560 --> 02:05:25.920 come say hi whenever you want to. It's completely fine, 2720 02:05:26.000 --> 02:05:29.640 it's normal in some ways. It's you know, like everything 2721 02:05:29.760 --> 02:05:33.359 in moderation, there's a moment where it becomes weird or 2722 02:05:33.479 --> 02:05:37.439 a problem. I think ninety nine point nine nine percent 2723 02:05:37.520 --> 02:05:39.880 of people I've ever interacted with have not crossed that line. 2724 02:05:40.920 --> 02:05:44.760 Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you, Mikey. You know, 2725 02:05:44.840 --> 02:05:47.600 I've talked openly about how my life is kind of 2726 02:05:47.640 --> 02:05:51.239 a mess actively right now. And I do appreciate there 2727 02:05:51.319 --> 02:05:54.239 being people out there that are concerned over my well being. 2728 02:05:55.279 --> 02:05:57.760 And yeah, if if you see me, say hi, I 2729 02:05:57.800 --> 02:06:00.000 don't fucking mind. Let's let's let's stop and share. 2730 02:06:01.199 --> 02:06:04.479 And I think you know, we definitely don't mind. I 2731 02:06:04.520 --> 02:06:07.479 think you know a loss concern usually for parasocial relationships 2732 02:06:07.560 --> 02:06:10.199 is they just can't be your only relationship. You know, 2733 02:06:10.640 --> 02:06:13.520 a positive relationship in your life is positive, it's stable, 2734 02:06:13.760 --> 02:06:16.720 and it's meaningful, and we could be positive and stable 2735 02:06:16.720 --> 02:06:19.359 in your life. It's like, do we provide meeting I 2736 02:06:19.399 --> 02:06:21.600 think only to a certain extent, Like it's only going 2737 02:06:21.680 --> 02:06:23.560 to be so much meaning What you really need is 2738 02:06:23.640 --> 02:06:25.880 someone in your life that you could talk to and 2739 02:06:25.960 --> 02:06:28.760 have a meaningful direct relationship with. And if you have 2740 02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:32.640 those covered having some parasocial relationships where it's like I 2741 02:06:32.680 --> 02:06:34.399 don't know, I like the way these people talk about 2742 02:06:34.439 --> 02:06:36.640 things and I kind of can't get this anywhere else. 2743 02:06:37.199 --> 02:06:40.479 That is completely okay, that's completely healthy, but you definitely 2744 02:06:40.760 --> 02:06:43.279 make sure you're minding those those personal relationships as well. 2745 02:06:43.319 --> 02:06:45.840 And went over like I think, like what would I 2746 02:06:45.880 --> 02:06:48.279 recommend people? The thing I keep going back to is 2747 02:06:48.279 --> 02:06:50.520 I don't find someone playing a Dungeons and Dragons game 2748 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:52.640 in your community and go join that, hang out with them, 2749 02:06:52.680 --> 02:06:54.399 and then you kind of got that stuff covered. That'll 2750 02:06:54.479 --> 02:06:56.840 kind of cover all your basis for having a good 2751 02:06:56.880 --> 02:06:59.239 personal relationships as long as they don't suck. I suppose 2752 02:06:59.279 --> 02:07:00.359 that's always a risk you run. 2753 02:07:00.680 --> 02:07:02.399 Yeah, take a cooking class. I don't know. 2754 02:07:02.560 --> 02:07:03.560 Yeah, yeah, cooking class. 2755 02:07:03.600 --> 02:07:05.199 There you go go do things, Go out and go 2756 02:07:05.319 --> 02:07:05.720 do things. 2757 02:07:06.000 --> 02:07:08.720 Yep. Yeah, that's that's a key takeaway. Go out and 2758 02:07:08.800 --> 02:07:12.520 do things. Also, if you're looking for a community. Enjoyed 2759 02:07:12.560 --> 02:07:15.520 the Giant Bomb discord, Yeah, it's exactly. 2760 02:07:15.640 --> 02:07:18.520 You can get those meaningful relationships still as part of 2761 02:07:18.600 --> 02:07:21.800 this and yeah the discord. Uh, you know, hit me 2762 02:07:21.880 --> 02:07:24.000 up on Blue Sky. I'll respond every once in a while. 2763 02:07:24.079 --> 02:07:26.039 Yeah, Jeff, you would just be some weird do I 2764 02:07:26.119 --> 02:07:27.000 knew from the internet? 2765 02:07:27.399 --> 02:07:27.479 Ye? 2766 02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:29.800 To me, Now he's your gravy train. 2767 02:07:31.680 --> 02:07:32.920 Yeah, it's gravy train. 2768 02:07:33.039 --> 02:07:34.920 M So they call me. 2769 02:07:35.720 --> 02:07:37.800 Have you know how they have chocolate fountains? Do they 2770 02:07:37.840 --> 02:07:38.680 have gravy fountains? 2771 02:07:39.119 --> 02:07:42.520 They have cheese? Some places will have cheese. Golden Kral 2772 02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:44.479 is a chocolate and cheese in the past. 2773 02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:47.640 A gravy volcano so much more interested in a cheese 2774 02:07:47.640 --> 02:07:48.359 fountain choco. 2775 02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:52.319 Yeah. I interact with most people that interact with me 2776 02:07:52.439 --> 02:07:55.239 on Instagram also, so if you like a thing that 2777 02:07:55.399 --> 02:07:58.039 has Scout in it or whatever, or my dumb memes, 2778 02:07:58.239 --> 02:08:01.840 then well yeah, well let's hang h Next email is 2779 02:08:01.840 --> 02:08:05.079 about the Bowser's Hurry stream. This comes from Jerry and Wisconsin. 2780 02:08:05.760 --> 02:08:09.439 Hey Bombers. The Bowser's Hurry stream on Friday was fantastic. 2781 02:08:09.600 --> 02:08:11.560 Congrats on raising all that money in such a short 2782 02:08:11.600 --> 02:08:14.239 amount of time. I did think of a question at 2783 02:08:14.279 --> 02:08:16.960 the end of the stream. With Mike proving that he 2784 02:08:17.079 --> 02:08:20.199 is canonically the best Mario player, that makes him the 2785 02:08:20.199 --> 02:08:24.479 most qualified to determine what a mainline Mario game like this? Okay, 2786 02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:28.680 so is Mario three D World mainline? Is Bowser's Fury 2787 02:08:28.800 --> 02:08:32.479 Now mainline? If Mike thinks it belongs there. Since he 2788 02:08:32.920 --> 02:08:37.079 is the de facto Mario expert, all his rulings on 2789 02:08:37.199 --> 02:08:39.119 the matter should be final. Love the show. 2790 02:08:39.399 --> 02:08:42.760 Dan is weirder and worse at Mario than Mitch. Jerry Wisconson, 2791 02:08:43.800 --> 02:08:49.439 very good, very good. Wow, Dan, come on, you you 2792 02:08:49.560 --> 02:08:51.600 got last in the race. You can speak last. 2793 02:08:51.640 --> 02:08:56.319 Don't worry well, three D World is, of course a 2794 02:08:56.399 --> 02:08:59.239 Maine Mario gave. You would have to be associopath to 2795 02:08:59.359 --> 02:09:00.239 not understand that. 2796 02:09:03.560 --> 02:09:05.960 I can't speak loser. I'm sorry. 2797 02:09:06.680 --> 02:09:10.920 Okay, So Bowser's theory is the more interesting conversation. I 2798 02:09:12.159 --> 02:09:14.560 should not already rope down into it. You have no 2799 02:09:14.680 --> 02:09:19.279 hesitation saying that Bowser's Fury is amazing, but three D 2800 02:09:19.399 --> 02:09:19.840 World is. 2801 02:09:19.880 --> 02:09:21.600 It's correct game. 2802 02:09:22.319 --> 02:09:24.199 I think they're both main but Dan really. 2803 02:09:25.560 --> 02:09:29.000 I would consider I mean, look, if I was, it's 2804 02:09:29.039 --> 02:09:31.720 weird because it wasn't a standalone thing. But in spirit, 2805 02:09:32.000 --> 02:09:34.880 to me, the main line, the three line is moving 2806 02:09:35.239 --> 02:09:38.039 the series forward. It's that line of like not spin 2807 02:09:38.119 --> 02:09:40.680 offs and stuff. And I feel like Bowser's theory is 2808 02:09:40.760 --> 02:09:44.439 the natural evolution of the series post odyssey. 2809 02:09:45.319 --> 02:09:47.319 Why is three D World not a good evolution? 2810 02:09:47.479 --> 02:09:49.880 That was a sad thing? It's for four players. Look, 2811 02:09:49.880 --> 02:09:52.520 we've been over this. It's it's not it's part of the. 2812 02:09:54.479 --> 02:09:59.720 Three D part of the same thing, four player multiplayer focus. U, 2813 02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:01.840 you're kind of isometric. 2814 02:10:01.439 --> 02:10:04.680 Multiplayer in three D land? What's why is isometric weird? Well, 2815 02:10:04.720 --> 02:10:06.439 it's just like, it's not the stated it's not the evolution, 2816 02:10:06.560 --> 02:10:09.680 it's not the next step past out. So things standard 2817 02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:12.640 but also pushed forward by being different. That's correct. 2818 02:10:13.399 --> 02:10:20.119 Well, don galay, Galaxy too. Galaxy Too is main line 2819 02:10:20.600 --> 02:10:21.840 and that didn't push forward. 2820 02:10:22.239 --> 02:10:26.520 That was just an eclus it. So so you can't 2821 02:10:26.520 --> 02:10:31.680 be an evolution, but it's the line, the main line. 2822 02:10:32.079 --> 02:10:34.159 It just goes like this, So here, okay if I 2823 02:10:34.520 --> 02:10:37.399 so it's kind of down here Mara one two through Superintendent. 2824 02:10:37.399 --> 02:10:39.079 We got a little bump in the line. Oh yo, 2825 02:10:39.159 --> 02:10:42.600 she's ying, Okay, gonna keep Oh sixty four, Wow, we're 2826 02:10:42.720 --> 02:10:45.039 three D Now we're really going up. Oh so he's 2827 02:10:45.039 --> 02:10:47.000 got a jet pack. Oh no, he's in space and 2828 02:10:47.079 --> 02:10:48.920 we got gravity. Now he's got a hat. 2829 02:10:49.279 --> 02:10:49.800 And now. 2830 02:10:52.239 --> 02:10:54.560 I didn't know you're here to speak so eloquently about it. 2831 02:10:54.680 --> 02:10:55.640 Make a bunch of sounds. 2832 02:10:55.800 --> 02:10:59.239 The man he's like, yeah, watch a master. People aren't 2833 02:10:59.239 --> 02:11:01.239 coming to you for these Yeah. Oh yeah, they're both 2834 02:11:01.279 --> 02:11:04.239 mainline games about the Fury. I maybe used to be like, 2835 02:11:04.359 --> 02:11:06.359 I don't know because like the pack in playing it. 2836 02:11:06.439 --> 02:11:07.880 Now I'm like, no, this is one of them. 2837 02:11:07.960 --> 02:11:08.520 Got that hat. 2838 02:11:08.840 --> 02:11:10.319 This is just what he's gonna hat. 2839 02:11:10.399 --> 02:11:11.920 Now if you say it like well, now he's got 2840 02:11:11.960 --> 02:11:13.800 a hat, then it sounds like it's important. 2841 02:11:14.279 --> 02:11:16.760 It was important. Now he's got a cat suit. 2842 02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:19.880 It's so funny, how jovial and chummy these two are 2843 02:11:20.039 --> 02:11:20.640 in person. 2844 02:11:21.520 --> 02:11:22.359 Yes, they're right. 2845 02:11:22.520 --> 02:11:23.600 Knives out right now. 2846 02:11:23.680 --> 02:11:26.079 I love it because I keep bringing up this thing 2847 02:11:26.119 --> 02:11:28.640 that I've been proven correct about, and it keeps coming out. 2848 02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:31.600 And I were just at the museum where you're proven incorrect. 2849 02:11:32.840 --> 02:11:37.039 Mode did that twenty years ago, and it was it 2850 02:11:37.159 --> 02:11:38.119 was mistranslated. 2851 02:11:38.239 --> 02:11:40.840 It was twelve years ago. I'm about thirteen year old. 2852 02:11:41.199 --> 02:11:43.600 All you asked him about was the Yoshi's Island thing, 2853 02:11:43.640 --> 02:11:45.399 which we're not even talking about now. 2854 02:11:45.560 --> 02:11:47.199 Let's ask Hi about three D World next time I 2855 02:11:47.239 --> 02:11:48.880 see me about ask about three D World. 2856 02:11:49.159 --> 02:11:52.239 You definitely, Dan, Do you really think there is a 2857 02:11:52.520 --> 02:11:56.680 chance in hell that sha hear me most I say, oh, yeah, 2858 02:11:57.199 --> 02:11:59.880 that's not a mainline Mario game. Whatever he thinks that means. 2859 02:11:59.920 --> 02:12:02.119 He's gonna say that's not a real Mario. We've been 2860 02:12:03.159 --> 02:12:04.039 with everything in the past. 2861 02:12:04.720 --> 02:12:06.960 Yeah, yeah, ex what are you. 2862 02:12:08.680 --> 02:12:11.560 And every reasons? Weren't his kids anymore? And I do 2863 02:12:11.720 --> 02:12:12.800 disagree with him about. 2864 02:12:12.640 --> 02:12:17.760 That all right. Speaking about Chakerama Mooto next week. 2865 02:12:18.399 --> 02:12:20.520 These Mario races, if he still gets away with all this, 2866 02:12:24.000 --> 02:12:24.359 damn it. 2867 02:12:24.560 --> 02:12:26.880 Somebody's got to do something. 2868 02:12:28.479 --> 02:12:30.159 Mike, I get shoot worried about you. When you get 2869 02:12:30.199 --> 02:12:37.520 worked up, sometimes I feel great. Oh wow, definitely are 2870 02:12:37.560 --> 02:12:44.560 the George of the team. Uh from Seattle. Uh writes 2871 02:12:44.560 --> 02:12:47.600 in about favorite game directors, Hey duders, first time, long time. 2872 02:12:47.840 --> 02:12:50.439 I've been thinking a lot about leadership recently and how 2873 02:12:50.520 --> 02:12:52.840 important it is for games, for any project to have 2874 02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:55.800 a clear and strong vision and have some someone at 2875 02:12:55.840 --> 02:12:58.239 the helm who can see it through while also having 2876 02:12:58.279 --> 02:13:01.279 a keen understanding of limitations. Who is messing with the 2877 02:13:01.399 --> 02:13:04.000 doc right now? I'm not making it bigger. I'm not 2878 02:13:04.079 --> 02:13:08.479 doing that like budgets, timelines, and technology, et cetera. It's 2879 02:13:08.560 --> 02:13:10.399 my view that a great director with a good team 2880 02:13:10.439 --> 02:13:13.760 results in a better product than a good director with 2881 02:13:13.880 --> 02:13:16.079 a great team. Do you find that to be the case. 2882 02:13:16.119 --> 02:13:18.439 Are there any directors you trust to always steer a 2883 02:13:18.479 --> 02:13:20.279 game in a good direction, even if you might not 2884 02:13:20.680 --> 02:13:23.000 always like or agree with the choices. Love y'all, Dan 2885 02:13:23.039 --> 02:13:24.000 from Seattle. 2886 02:13:24.239 --> 02:13:28.000 Kajimamoto, I really like Sam Lake. 2887 02:13:29.479 --> 02:13:31.239 Yeah, I don't think. 2888 02:13:31.279 --> 02:13:34.560 I don't know if anybody's infallible. I think everybody making 2889 02:13:34.600 --> 02:13:37.359 games is so complicated and so dependent a more than 2890 02:13:37.399 --> 02:13:40.600 one person that everybody could have a disaster in them 2891 02:13:41.239 --> 02:13:44.159 or a misstep in them, right, I just I do 2892 02:13:44.279 --> 02:13:46.840 think that there are just personalities that are well suited 2893 02:13:46.880 --> 02:13:50.720 to it. Like I chatted with Corey baurog Barlow excuse 2894 02:13:50.800 --> 02:13:52.840 me like an E three way back before that God 2895 02:13:52.880 --> 02:13:55.520 of Worry boot came in, just like from talking to him, like, Oh, 2896 02:13:55.560 --> 02:13:59.039 this guy really knows what he's doing. He seems really 2897 02:13:59.159 --> 02:14:03.039 nice and interesting. I bet he just makes good video 2898 02:14:03.199 --> 02:14:05.960 games and that just absolutely was the case, right Yep? 2899 02:14:06.119 --> 02:14:09.319 Yeah, I think Josh Sawyer recently, you guy that did 2900 02:14:09.479 --> 02:14:12.640 the New Vegas impentiment and stuff like that. Yeah, sure, 2901 02:14:13.199 --> 02:14:15.199 after playing Pentiment and kind of like paying attention to 2902 02:14:15.359 --> 02:14:18.199 much like I allow him on social media. I don't know. 2903 02:14:18.239 --> 02:14:19.840 It just seems like he has a pretty good idea 2904 02:14:19.960 --> 02:14:21.840 of like what he wants to make when he starts 2905 02:14:21.880 --> 02:14:24.439 making it. And yeah, I think I think that's the 2906 02:14:24.560 --> 02:14:26.359 kind of person I would want and charge someone who 2907 02:14:26.399 --> 02:14:29.399 has that strong vision and then also has a good 2908 02:14:29.479 --> 02:14:32.079 grasp on the reality of actually making a vision vision 2909 02:14:32.119 --> 02:14:33.760 come to life, because that's where a lot of that 2910 02:14:33.800 --> 02:14:34.560 stuff gets lost. 2911 02:14:36.760 --> 02:14:42.800 Fantastic next email comes from Matt k and this may 2912 02:14:43.000 --> 02:14:48.680 tickle Mike's fancy here Matt writes in about Star Trek. 2913 02:14:49.119 --> 02:14:51.720 First off, I fucking love you all. Going through an 2914 02:14:51.760 --> 02:14:54.119 extraordinary rough patch right now, and every one of you 2915 02:14:54.399 --> 02:14:57.880 is feeding my heart. Now, why the fuck aren't we 2916 02:14:58.119 --> 02:15:02.199 drowning in Star Trek game? How has Telltale never taking 2917 02:15:02.279 --> 02:15:05.039 up the ip. It's just sitting there in RBG, a 2918 02:15:05.159 --> 02:15:08.479 grid retyle for jan Base tactics game, a city builder, 2919 02:15:08.520 --> 02:15:11.399 a third person adventure game. Anything, we have nothing. So 2920 02:15:11.520 --> 02:15:15.279 it's the deal. There's so much potential. Your concert listener, Matt, Kay. 2921 02:15:16.119 --> 02:15:18.239 You know what's funny is I forget if it was 2922 02:15:18.319 --> 02:15:20.560 actually tell Tale or of one of those, like many 2923 02:15:20.680 --> 02:15:23.840 Telltale spinoffs or successors. They made a Start Trek game 2924 02:15:23.840 --> 02:15:25.760 a couple of years ago. It did not get very 2925 02:15:25.880 --> 02:15:28.720 much pressed. Oh but that happened, and I heard some 2926 02:15:28.800 --> 02:15:32.039 people say it's actually good. So look that up if 2927 02:15:32.039 --> 02:15:34.760 you're interested in that. There's also like a Star Trek 2928 02:15:34.840 --> 02:15:37.079 four X that happened a little bit ago that also 2929 02:15:37.159 --> 02:15:39.960 went super under the radar, if it might even be 2930 02:15:40.199 --> 02:15:41.960 by the stillaries people, right. 2931 02:15:42.479 --> 02:15:44.319 So maybe try that. 2932 02:15:44.680 --> 02:15:47.119 Star Trek's always been weird because it's such an omnipresent 2933 02:15:47.239 --> 02:15:50.600 IP and it's a popularp that was a very passionate 2934 02:15:50.720 --> 02:15:54.000 fan base, but it's never quite popular enough where people 2935 02:15:54.079 --> 02:15:57.960 want to put like Star Wars Jedi Phone order. 2936 02:15:57.960 --> 02:16:00.520 Money into one of those games something like that. 2937 02:16:00.680 --> 02:16:03.680 Right, there's like a world where you make a mass 2938 02:16:03.720 --> 02:16:05.960 effect style game, but it's just a Star Trek EP 2939 02:16:06.800 --> 02:16:09.680 and it would be incredible, and instead we get, you know, 2940 02:16:10.720 --> 02:16:12.840 Star Trek as a co op shooter, kind of like 2941 02:16:12.920 --> 02:16:15.560 Gears of War, which I liked that game no one else, 2942 02:16:15.840 --> 02:16:18.079 No one else did, though, I. 2943 02:16:18.119 --> 02:16:19.880 Want to play that game about the one that you 2944 02:16:19.920 --> 02:16:20.720 play through with your brother. 2945 02:16:21.319 --> 02:16:24.319 Yeah, it's fun and stupid. It's stupid for sure, but 2946 02:16:24.640 --> 02:16:27.319 it's kind of Yeah, it's kind of fun. I kind 2947 02:16:27.319 --> 02:16:30.119 of want to go back because there's like say a 2948 02:16:30.199 --> 02:16:32.959 Genesis and Super Nintendo Star Trek the next generation in 2949 02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:34.840 the Space nine games play. 2950 02:16:36.360 --> 02:16:36.559 Well. 2951 02:16:36.639 --> 02:16:39.479 Okay, so I had never seen Star Trek as a kid, 2952 02:16:39.559 --> 02:16:41.479 but I'd seen all the Star Wars movies, and so 2953 02:16:41.559 --> 02:16:43.920 I remember I went to my step grandparents house and 2954 02:16:43.959 --> 02:16:45.879 they had a Super Nintendo and all they had was 2955 02:16:45.959 --> 02:16:48.799 tiny tuons bust or Bust Loose, which I loved, and 2956 02:16:49.600 --> 02:16:52.440 these two Star Trek games for Super Nintendo. 2957 02:16:52.520 --> 02:16:53.120 One of them was like. 2958 02:16:53.719 --> 02:16:57.319 Starfleet Academy or something, and like, not knowing anything about 2959 02:16:57.319 --> 02:16:59.879 Star Trek, I was like, okay, cool, I've seen space action. 2960 02:17:00.200 --> 02:17:02.479 This is gonna have laser swords and guns and cool shit. 2961 02:17:02.879 --> 02:17:04.760 And you play it and like you literally are in 2962 02:17:04.879 --> 02:17:09.840 like an academy learning how to be a Star Trek guy. 2963 02:17:10.159 --> 02:17:11.719 And then when you go down on the planet or whatever, 2964 02:17:11.760 --> 02:17:13.959 you're like walking around to computer terminals and it like 2965 02:17:14.280 --> 02:17:17.120 dissuades you from attacking things. And it's like all I 2966 02:17:17.159 --> 02:17:19.319 knew about video games is like you just kill your enemies, 2967 02:17:19.479 --> 02:17:22.079 and like this was having me read and not be violent, 2968 02:17:22.200 --> 02:17:22.639 and I was. 2969 02:17:22.959 --> 02:17:26.399 Very confused as a child. And that's the thing with 2970 02:17:26.600 --> 02:17:27.120 Star Trek. 2971 02:17:27.200 --> 02:17:30.000 It's the best when there can't be action in Star Trek, 2972 02:17:30.079 --> 02:17:32.600 and the movies always beer into that more, but it 2973 02:17:32.760 --> 02:17:34.719 is usually it's the best when it's not about that. 2974 02:17:34.879 --> 02:17:36.959 But that's why a Telltale game actually makes sense for that, 2975 02:17:37.000 --> 02:17:38.360 because it's like you want to make faced with like 2976 02:17:38.520 --> 02:17:39.559 challenging choices. 2977 02:17:39.719 --> 02:17:42.600 Yeah, yeah, you want to be doing like difficult diplomacy 2978 02:17:42.840 --> 02:17:47.319 and philosophy and explorations and science stuff, right, Like there's 2979 02:17:47.360 --> 02:17:49.479 so much too, Star Trek. That's always been difficult to 2980 02:17:49.520 --> 02:17:52.200 make one kind of game, and they succeeded, right, Like 2981 02:17:52.879 --> 02:17:55.280 they did make a Star Trek first person shooter, a 2982 02:17:55.399 --> 02:17:57.879 Star Trek Voyager Elite Force, and it was Raven Software 2983 02:17:58.239 --> 02:18:00.319 back when they were very good that kind of stuff, right, 2984 02:18:00.399 --> 02:18:03.920 Like they did Jedi Outcasts and that game rules. 2985 02:18:03.959 --> 02:18:05.200 The Leaf Force is fantastic. 2986 02:18:05.479 --> 02:18:07.639 You know, it's a shooter, but it's a very fun 2987 02:18:07.719 --> 02:18:09.840 one with all the Star Trek flavors that it has. 2988 02:18:10.440 --> 02:18:11.639 There's good Star Trek games out there. 2989 02:18:11.639 --> 02:18:12.760 I don't know if we're ever going to get that 2990 02:18:12.879 --> 02:18:16.200 kind of ideal, perfect Star Trek game that we've always. 2991 02:18:15.920 --> 02:18:16.760 Wont especially right now. 2992 02:18:17.319 --> 02:18:19.920 Star Trek's weird because it's both thriving because there's a 2993 02:18:19.959 --> 02:18:22.360 lot of shows, but also kind of in a weird place. 2994 02:18:22.639 --> 02:18:24.799 I think that section thirty one movie is going to 2995 02:18:24.879 --> 02:18:28.079 do poorly. That direct the video one that seems very 2996 02:18:28.520 --> 02:18:32.120 dark and strange. So I don't know, I used to 2997 02:18:32.200 --> 02:18:33.440 be such a Star Trek guy. 2998 02:18:33.840 --> 02:18:36.879 Friends. Yeah, I kind of maybe need to catch up 2999 02:18:36.920 --> 02:18:37.760 and get back into it. 3000 02:18:38.000 --> 02:18:40.639 Yeah, we Surgeon came out. The Surgeons came out last year. 3001 02:18:40.840 --> 02:18:42.840 Oh yeah, just came out last year and I thought 3002 02:18:43.280 --> 02:18:45.799 I should play it because it is very next generation code. 3003 02:18:45.840 --> 02:18:48.799 That's definitely what I'm the next generation in Deep Base nine. 3004 02:18:48.840 --> 02:18:51.680 Those are my big Star Trek highlights. 3005 02:18:51.760 --> 02:18:53.600 One day I'll get into track Mike one day. 3006 02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:56.120 Yeah, I want to do a D based nine podcast. 3007 02:18:56.159 --> 02:18:56.399 Some day. 3008 02:18:56.399 --> 02:18:59.559 We can do next generation podcasts that be next generation, 3009 02:19:00.799 --> 02:19:01.639 next generation. 3010 02:19:01.959 --> 02:19:05.079 Oh my god, see Deef's space. 3011 02:19:05.719 --> 02:19:06.680 Mitch jan. 3012 02:19:08.079 --> 02:19:08.799 Works on that one. 3013 02:19:10.280 --> 02:19:14.319 Next email comes from Phil and Calgary. Hey guys, it's 3014 02:19:14.319 --> 02:19:15.680 a Mount Rushmore dips. 3015 02:19:16.440 --> 02:19:19.079 Oh rook, before you do that? Can we do a 3016 02:19:19.159 --> 02:19:20.559 Star Trek Bridge Creuse stream? 3017 02:19:21.319 --> 02:19:21.440 Oh? 3018 02:19:21.559 --> 02:19:22.840 Yeah, the VR one. 3019 02:19:23.399 --> 02:19:25.280 That game is actually really good. That actually is a 3020 02:19:25.360 --> 02:19:27.479 very good startup game and one of the best VR games. 3021 02:19:27.520 --> 02:19:27.760 Still. 3022 02:19:27.840 --> 02:19:29.639 I think we have to like always make Dan the 3023 02:19:29.680 --> 02:19:33.559 captain and just see what happens. Yeah, it'll go great, 3024 02:19:33.719 --> 02:19:34.360 it'll go great. 3025 02:19:35.159 --> 02:19:37.639 Uh, Barbecue Ranch or one and. 3026 02:19:37.680 --> 02:19:41.879 Two barbecue I don't like, but I feel like ketchup 3027 02:19:41.920 --> 02:19:42.520 has to be there. 3028 02:19:42.559 --> 02:19:46.239 No, I barbecue ranch Buffalo. 3029 02:19:48.079 --> 02:19:50.440 See, I think of buffalo as like a glaze than 3030 02:19:50.479 --> 02:19:50.719 a dip. 3031 02:19:50.879 --> 02:19:55.680 It can be a glaze, you know, like like what 3032 02:19:55.799 --> 02:19:58.719 about like a buffalo chicken dip? Right, I don't have 3033 02:19:58.840 --> 02:20:00.680 that that's a put the chicken. 3034 02:20:00.520 --> 02:20:01.840 In the choke dip. 3035 02:20:01.959 --> 02:20:10.040 Yeah yeah, French on Cao ranch caso, Buffalo said buffalo, 3036 02:20:10.360 --> 02:20:12.639 So I mean no, no a buffalo ranch. No sorry, 3037 02:20:12.920 --> 02:20:15.079 barbecue ranch, Buffalo Caso. 3038 02:20:16.879 --> 02:20:18.760 Okay, Queso is a dip. That's a dip. 3039 02:20:19.239 --> 02:20:19.680 That's a dip. 3040 02:20:19.799 --> 02:20:22.760 I think the rest are sauces. Well you dip you 3041 02:20:23.000 --> 02:20:26.360 dipping sauces though, yeah sure, but but but but if 3042 02:20:26.360 --> 02:20:29.120 you're staying the mountain rushmore of dips and you put 3043 02:20:29.200 --> 02:20:30.280 up a bunch of saucers, like. 3044 02:20:31.159 --> 02:20:33.040 When you get nuggets, they ask you, like what dips 3045 02:20:33.120 --> 02:20:37.319 you want, and you get the sauce I want. 3046 02:20:37.360 --> 02:20:44.639 I think Okay, hummus is a dip. Yes, okay, I 3047 02:20:44.680 --> 02:20:49.879 think Lolcamole is up there for sure. Okay, salsa. 3048 02:20:51.120 --> 02:20:54.200 No chunks, no, I mean no chunks, of course it 3049 02:20:54.239 --> 02:20:55.000 didn't no no, no, no no. 3050 02:20:55.280 --> 02:20:56.159 With with salsa. 3051 02:20:56.239 --> 02:20:58.079 I just put my chip in there. And if you 3052 02:20:58.159 --> 02:21:00.719 don't get a curved chips, like, fuck it up. Just 3053 02:21:00.760 --> 02:21:02.639 get a straight chip. You dip it in and you 3054 02:21:02.760 --> 02:21:04.799 just want red wet, you don't want chunks. 3055 02:21:06.920 --> 02:21:10.280 I hate everything. He just said. French onion dip is 3056 02:21:10.559 --> 02:21:12.280 can we get that one on the never try to. 3057 02:21:13.239 --> 02:21:15.399 Should we just try and like bring everyone together? Seven 3058 02:21:15.520 --> 02:21:16.000 layer dip? 3059 02:21:16.399 --> 02:21:19.440 Never try to? Never tried. There's too many. There's some 3060 02:21:19.520 --> 02:21:19.959 weird stuff. 3061 02:21:19.959 --> 02:21:24.879 And I like lasagna, but Lasia repeats layers, right, I 3062 02:21:24.959 --> 02:21:26.719 think those are seven unique layers. 3063 02:21:26.479 --> 02:21:27.600 In that I'm not trying seven. 3064 02:21:28.079 --> 02:21:29.799 If you throw like a little bit of herbs and ranch, 3065 02:21:29.879 --> 02:21:31.479 you can call it a ranch dip. So I'm willing 3066 02:21:31.520 --> 02:21:33.520 to like getran ranch dip. 3067 02:21:33.719 --> 02:21:36.719 Yeah, but rich always has herbs and were talking about. 3068 02:21:37.920 --> 02:21:40.639 Right, I know, but there's like for the ranch dip. 3069 02:21:40.920 --> 02:21:42.799 There's just they put more herbs in there. Mike, I 3070 02:21:42.840 --> 02:21:45.239 don't know what you want from it. But I don't 3071 02:21:45.280 --> 02:21:46.719 know what you want from it. It's just that they 3072 02:21:46.959 --> 02:21:51.760 should be disqualified to this conversation. And everyone loved keso, 3073 02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:53.559 so there are a lot of stuff out of this 3074 02:21:53.680 --> 02:21:54.120 ebo and. 3075 02:21:54.120 --> 02:21:55.239 I have been unimpressed. 3076 02:21:58.680 --> 02:22:00.120 Pass fail brother, that's. 3077 02:22:01.440 --> 02:22:05.479 That and everything. 3078 02:22:05.879 --> 02:22:08.719 Okay, I guess the different schools in Kansas. 3079 02:22:09.879 --> 02:22:12.719 Dan, you can definitely help out with his next email. Okay, 3080 02:22:13.319 --> 02:22:17.879 this comes from Daniel from Long Beach. Hey, dudeers, it's 3081 02:22:17.959 --> 02:22:19.879 my fortieth birthday next month, and I want to go 3082 02:22:19.920 --> 02:22:22.360 to Disneyland and eat the foods I'm local, so I 3083 02:22:22.440 --> 02:22:24.799 know my way around. We're good on that. My girlfriend 3084 02:22:24.799 --> 02:22:27.399 and I want to Disney bound. So my question is 3085 02:22:27.600 --> 02:22:29.680 what characters should we dress as if you. 3086 02:22:29.680 --> 02:22:32.719 Have time functioning an adult, functioning adult in society. 3087 02:22:38.079 --> 02:22:40.719 Just the guy who has to dip his chip into 3088 02:22:40.840 --> 02:22:46.360 the salsa, right, doesn't get the chunks and weird, that's 3089 02:22:46.520 --> 02:22:48.079 what adult. 3090 02:22:48.520 --> 02:22:50.639 I literally get extra chunky salsa. 3091 02:22:51.600 --> 02:22:51.840 Wow. 3092 02:22:52.000 --> 02:22:53.479 Does that have extra red wet, isn't it? 3093 02:22:53.959 --> 02:23:01.840 Yeah? Where is your red wet isle? Can you show 3094 02:23:01.879 --> 02:23:02.239 me where the. 3095 02:23:03.879 --> 02:23:05.360 Chunks to get to the red wet? You don't get 3096 02:23:05.360 --> 02:23:07.200 red wet without the chunks. You just don't eat the chunks. 3097 02:23:07.239 --> 02:23:08.399 It's like the skin on the. 3098 02:23:08.440 --> 02:23:15.559 Bree Oh my god, what wait the wax? I don't really. 3099 02:23:17.600 --> 02:23:22.000 Oh, here's delicious cheese in the middle surrounding poison. No, 3100 02:23:22.280 --> 02:23:24.239 that's not you could eat that ride It's fine. 3101 02:23:24.879 --> 02:23:27.360 Red Wedding is my favorite Game of Thrones episode, by 3102 02:23:27.360 --> 02:23:31.079 the way. Yeah, if you have the time, here's some 3103 02:23:31.239 --> 02:23:35.520 characters we've already dressed up as. Captain Bucky Kyle Ren 3104 02:23:35.879 --> 02:23:39.399 and Captain FAsMA, a hitchhiking ghost and hat box ghosts 3105 02:23:39.440 --> 02:23:42.879 Mollficent and Dragon Mollificent. Love you guys and Dan definitely 3106 02:23:42.959 --> 02:23:45.639 had the neurovirus at the end of last year, and 3107 02:23:45.799 --> 02:23:46.879 not just some bad poops. 3108 02:23:47.200 --> 02:23:47.719 No one around. 3109 02:23:47.799 --> 02:23:50.719 We got sick and I ate a vat of weird 3110 02:23:50.840 --> 02:23:56.239 meat and cheese. Thanks doctor, Doctor Disney bounding. 3111 02:23:59.239 --> 02:24:02.079 Uh, Mike, you got any suggestions? 3112 02:24:02.920 --> 02:24:05.879 Yeah? Uh Daniel Hay, mister Lee from Long Beach. Uh, 3113 02:24:06.600 --> 02:24:08.879 God me gosh, there's so many possibilities. I think all 3114 02:24:08.879 --> 02:24:11.959 the record ralph ones are always kind of cute, right, Uh, 3115 02:24:12.280 --> 02:24:15.319 Venolope and Record Ralph even when they get fixed. Felix 3116 02:24:15.479 --> 02:24:16.840 in there, you do Felix. 3117 02:24:17.079 --> 02:24:19.360 No, you should do Record Ralph and Captain Felix because 3118 02:24:19.399 --> 02:24:23.680 they are actually in a relationship not very healthy, and 3119 02:24:24.000 --> 02:24:26.319 record Ralph there? I like it. 3120 02:24:27.920 --> 02:24:31.959 Get weird? Do some Uh what would be a good? 3121 02:24:32.000 --> 02:24:34.600 Like more obscure one? I mean at which the most. 3122 02:24:34.520 --> 02:24:37.600 Racist Didney character goes that, Yeah, is there a song 3123 02:24:37.639 --> 02:24:38.280 of the South one? 3124 02:24:38.680 --> 02:24:41.159 Yeahs over great? 3125 02:24:41.360 --> 02:24:42.719 Yeah, okay, a big hit? 3126 02:24:43.000 --> 02:24:45.799 Yeah, I would, I would. I would advise against it. Actually, 3127 02:24:47.319 --> 02:24:50.719 Sonny Eclipse and Instruments as always go. 3128 02:24:51.200 --> 02:24:54.319 As the rescuers. The two mice that's solved. 3129 02:24:54.319 --> 02:24:57.319 Their names are Bernard and miss Bianca. 3130 02:24:57.559 --> 02:25:01.479 Okay, I'm sorry. Says Ja Ja gavor yeh uh Eva 3131 02:25:01.559 --> 02:25:03.040 Gabor is John. 3132 02:25:03.159 --> 02:25:05.840 I think that's I think that's Josh, and I. 3133 02:25:05.840 --> 02:25:08.200 Think no, we got it now with Bernard and miss Bianca. 3134 02:25:08.280 --> 02:25:09.559 That's that's that's the correct answer. 3135 02:25:09.559 --> 02:25:13.479 Good job, Jen, All right, there we go. Uh. Nextxt 3136 02:25:13.680 --> 02:25:18.680 email comes from Pat in Quebec uh and Pat writes 3137 02:25:18.879 --> 02:25:24.280 in about GDC, which is coming up. Pat writes, Dearest 3138 02:25:24.440 --> 02:25:28.079 members of the Large Explosive Clan, I'll be going to 3139 02:25:28.159 --> 02:25:30.360 GDC in San Francisco for the first time, and I'm 3140 02:25:30.399 --> 02:25:33.680 looking for tips from local for some locals. What does 3141 02:25:33.719 --> 02:25:36.559 he quit? Essentially San Francisco thing to experience for someone 3142 02:25:36.840 --> 02:25:39.239 who will be there for a couple of days, Sea lions, 3143 02:25:39.399 --> 02:25:43.159 floating prisons, quaint neighborhoods. I'm also a coffee weirdo. I 3144 02:25:43.200 --> 02:25:46.799 sprits my beans and weigh my water. Pat, my guy, Uh, 3145 02:25:47.040 --> 02:25:49.319 what coffee places would you recommend to such a weirdo? 3146 02:25:49.479 --> 02:25:55.239 Pat from Quebec uh ps. I've also decided to engage 3147 02:25:55.239 --> 02:25:59.079 in some virtual tourism research and then playing watchdogs too casually, 3148 02:25:59.399 --> 02:26:02.280 which is set SF. It's been fun comparing and its 3149 02:26:02.360 --> 02:26:04.920 representation of what the city is to my understanding of 3150 02:26:05.000 --> 02:26:07.879 it based on snooping around on Google Maps. Also, this 3151 02:26:07.959 --> 02:26:10.000 game depresses me as a lot of its subject matter 3152 02:26:10.079 --> 02:26:12.159 is increasingly becoming reality these days. 3153 02:26:12.319 --> 02:26:14.200 I was thinking about that. Was that the game where 3154 02:26:14.280 --> 02:26:17.200 when they announced it, the guy was like I crying because. 3155 02:26:16.959 --> 02:26:19.200 Of Like, no, you're thinking if you're thinking of Nate 3156 02:26:19.280 --> 02:26:23.479 Fox during the infamous Second Sun reveal, okay from Sucker Right. 3157 02:26:23.559 --> 02:26:25.280 Yeah, yeah, I think this guy just came out. It 3158 02:26:25.399 --> 02:26:28.120 was very intense about private security and stuff like that 3159 02:26:28.280 --> 02:26:32.159 and your public yeah, your public presence online. So okay, yeah, 3160 02:26:32.200 --> 02:26:35.799 that's right. Yeah, I don't know. Hey, playing Watch Ducks 3161 02:26:35.840 --> 02:26:37.840 too though, playing a game before you're going to the city, 3162 02:26:37.959 --> 02:26:38.760 that is a good move. 3163 02:26:39.040 --> 02:26:40.840 That was the That was one of the only times. 3164 02:26:41.040 --> 02:26:42.959 It was the first time I was playing a game 3165 02:26:43.319 --> 02:26:45.239 in the city I was living in, because I remember 3166 02:26:45.239 --> 02:26:47.040 watching Talking Out while I lived there, and the same 3167 02:26:47.120 --> 02:26:49.520 thing with Spider Man, Marvel Spider Man when I lived 3168 02:26:49.520 --> 02:26:50.360 in New York, and like that one. 3169 02:26:50.479 --> 02:26:52.360 You can imagine that happens to me every day with Cleveland. 3170 02:26:52.440 --> 02:26:54.920 Oh, it was like World War two in the mid 3171 02:26:55.399 --> 02:26:56.719 the World War everywhere games. 3172 02:26:56.879 --> 02:27:02.120 Yes, I may regret offering this, but if you are 3173 02:27:02.239 --> 02:27:06.760 going to GDC I don't know if I can just 3174 02:27:07.000 --> 02:27:11.280 blindly throw in Tam and Lucy into this, but I 3175 02:27:11.520 --> 02:27:15.280 will guide a tour group around, Oh my god, Jan 3176 02:27:16.879 --> 02:27:18.799 and we will go around and have a fun time. 3177 02:27:18.879 --> 02:27:23.000 We'll just consider it like a Giant Bomb community meet up. 3178 02:27:23.079 --> 02:27:25.920 If you're going to GDC, all right, if you already 3179 02:27:25.959 --> 02:27:29.280 live in the Bay Area, get fucked, okay, and I'm 3180 02:27:29.360 --> 02:27:32.200 gonna take you to my favorite places, which are not 3181 02:27:32.479 --> 02:27:36.040 any fantastic fun super duper places. If you're looking for 3182 02:27:36.079 --> 02:27:39.200 the quintessential San Francisco experience, You're gonna have to buy 3183 02:27:39.239 --> 02:27:42.399 a joint. You're gonna have to buy a burrito. I 3184 02:27:42.559 --> 02:27:46.440 have to a dirty knife. No, accidentally get poked by 3185 02:27:46.559 --> 02:27:50.440 needle on bart That's what it is. Please please and 3186 02:27:50.719 --> 02:27:53.840 get into some Shenana jans. All right, Oh guys, y'all 3187 02:27:53.840 --> 02:27:54.639 show you a good time. 3188 02:27:54.719 --> 02:27:57.639 Baby, Tommy's joint, Tommy Tommy's joint. 3189 02:27:57.840 --> 02:28:01.959 That's awesome, right, Yes, get some Tommy's rum punch Jeffortaria 3190 02:28:02.040 --> 02:28:02.639 style meat. 3191 02:28:02.760 --> 02:28:05.520 Just yeah. Are you gonna go to the Walt Disney 3192 02:28:05.559 --> 02:28:06.280 Family Museum? 3193 02:28:06.520 --> 02:28:07.159 Yeah you go, okay? 3194 02:28:07.200 --> 02:28:08.280 Well, Contraz is cool. 3195 02:28:08.920 --> 02:28:12.319 Alcatraz is cool. Makes you think of the rock Yeah, Honestly, 3196 02:28:12.399 --> 02:28:14.680 the faery building is very pretty. You should go there. 3197 02:28:16.680 --> 02:28:19.600 Yeah, exactly, the cheesecake factory that Jeff and I like. 3198 02:28:20.879 --> 02:28:23.840 Yeah, I guess you can go there. You know you 3199 02:28:24.000 --> 02:28:29.719 have to. Yeah, Okay, I'll show you a good time. 3200 02:28:29.760 --> 02:28:30.559 I'll show you good time. 3201 02:28:30.799 --> 02:28:31.360 I'll come up. 3202 02:28:31.559 --> 02:28:33.920 If you don't want to join the jam tour group 3203 02:28:34.239 --> 02:28:37.280 at GDC this year, I'll make an excel sheet have 3204 02:28:37.440 --> 02:28:39.840 some fun places for you to go to, and I'll 3205 02:28:39.879 --> 02:28:42.239 include if you don't drink or smoke or want to 3206 02:28:42.280 --> 02:28:47.079 have a fun time. All right. Last email of the 3207 02:28:47.239 --> 02:28:52.079 show comes from Jordan Jay from Chicago. 3208 02:28:53.360 --> 02:28:56.840 Folks, you're gonna skip this email where so once they 3209 02:28:56.879 --> 02:28:59.360 fuck with you? To me, that's the most that's nicest, 3210 02:28:59.360 --> 02:29:00.840 same thing that ever said. You don't have to read it. 3211 02:29:00.840 --> 02:29:02.319 I'm just joking. Please keep going, all right. 3212 02:29:02.360 --> 02:29:06.600 Well, Alison from Alabama had said in their email, PS, 3213 02:29:06.840 --> 02:29:08.079 Jeff Grubb, I fuck with you. 3214 02:29:08.559 --> 02:29:10.120 Yeah, let's go Allison? 3215 02:29:10.920 --> 02:29:11.280 All right? 3216 02:29:11.680 --> 02:29:14.639 Uh, Like you read the PPS on that one real 3217 02:29:14.719 --> 02:29:15.079 quick too. 3218 02:29:15.239 --> 02:29:15.680 PPS. 3219 02:29:15.799 --> 02:29:18.520 I can never remember how to pronounce ahago, so I 3220 02:29:18.639 --> 02:29:20.559 just pronounce call it asciago instead. 3221 02:29:22.040 --> 02:29:22.280 Thank you. 3222 02:29:23.920 --> 02:29:24.280 I read that. 3223 02:29:24.360 --> 02:29:26.600 I was like, this is important, It's really good. 3224 02:29:27.840 --> 02:29:33.239 Uh. First off, Jan, Nikki and Tam y'all good after 3225 02:29:33.280 --> 02:29:35.479 hearing you explain yadada mean to the rest of the crew, 3226 02:29:35.840 --> 02:29:38.680 I was concerned for the level of whiteness and your surroundings. 3227 02:29:40.319 --> 02:29:43.719 These words I am not allowed to say parentheses. Fellas 3228 02:29:44.000 --> 02:29:46.559 are so translucent you can see the mayo they ate 3229 02:29:46.639 --> 02:29:47.040 for lunch. 3230 02:29:47.479 --> 02:29:54.200 All right, Lauram, Yeah. 3231 02:29:54.239 --> 02:29:55.719 Nikki is the only one that can say that word. 3232 02:29:55.879 --> 02:29:56.680 They're saying it in chat. 3233 02:29:57.040 --> 02:29:57.159 Uh. 3234 02:29:58.399 --> 02:30:01.000 They got you playing frisbee golf. Yet I'm trying to 3235 02:30:01.000 --> 02:30:03.280 see some brown activities in this bush, and I mean, 3236 02:30:03.879 --> 02:30:04.959 what call that hockey shit? 3237 02:30:05.200 --> 02:30:05.559 Agreed? 3238 02:30:06.479 --> 02:30:10.559 Anyways, I rank them based on whiteness, Oh sweet. Number 3239 02:30:10.600 --> 02:30:13.920 four Jeff Grubb is so white. He is down nothing 3240 02:30:13.959 --> 02:30:17.239 better than his self aware white. He's a neighbor that 3241 02:30:17.319 --> 02:30:20.600 winds up at cookouts and birthday parties. We need Jeff Grubbs. 3242 02:30:21.079 --> 02:30:22.760 Yeah, that's happened for sure. 3243 02:30:23.120 --> 02:30:27.920 Number three Mike Manatti is so white it's cute. He 3244 02:30:28.040 --> 02:30:30.520 can't help it and he can't deny it. Real talk. 3245 02:30:30.879 --> 02:30:34.000 Do he like chocolate? Because I see my man laid 3246 02:30:34.079 --> 02:30:40.040 up with a beautiful black queen passa to each other 3247 02:30:40.360 --> 02:30:42.079 a top of a lotta bed sheets. 3248 02:30:43.799 --> 02:30:46.399 Hell, yeah, black folks, that's pretty good. 3249 02:30:48.959 --> 02:30:54.159 Yeah. Black folks love Italian food and they'll eat that 3250 02:30:54.280 --> 02:31:00.440 Disney bullshit up too. I'm trying to get my boy. 3251 02:31:01.079 --> 02:31:03.920 I'm trying to see my boy get Hella Nasty and 3252 02:31:04.079 --> 02:31:06.879 add Mike Methadi to the aliases. 3253 02:31:13.680 --> 02:31:15.280 Oh fuck, I just read the next one. 3254 02:31:15.319 --> 02:31:35.159 I have to die Number two Jeff Baklar coworker number one. 3255 02:31:36.120 --> 02:31:41.000 They bespelt your name Dan Dan Riiker. Shit, I don't know, man. 3256 02:31:41.760 --> 02:31:44.520 There's so many dance stories he tells, and not even 3257 02:31:44.639 --> 02:31:50.959 halfway through I think I would have been shot. He 3258 02:31:51.200 --> 02:31:52.959 is the type of guy to go to the South 3259 02:31:53.040 --> 02:31:57.920 Side and either get his pockets ran or escorted out 3260 02:31:57.959 --> 02:32:00.680 of the hood by a top hitter. Dude is white 3261 02:32:00.760 --> 02:32:04.520 Jesus with severe ADHD. You'll either bring forth doom incarnate 3262 02:32:04.799 --> 02:32:07.040 or trip into the solution to the world's many issues. 3263 02:32:08.440 --> 02:32:10.959 I love the show. You all bring something unique to 3264 02:32:11.000 --> 02:32:14.200 the show. It keeps me engaged in knowledgeable, Stay safe, 3265 02:32:14.280 --> 02:32:16.079 Stay up, Stay safe. Jordan J from. 3266 02:32:16.040 --> 02:32:19.879 Chicago, Jordan Jay, you have just crushed it. 3267 02:32:21.399 --> 02:32:22.840 You take Look. 3268 02:32:23.120 --> 02:32:26.719 Mike can't say his favorite rapper is Lynn Manuel Miranda 3269 02:32:26.840 --> 02:32:27.959 and not definitely. 3270 02:32:28.079 --> 02:32:32.239 Jo said that not that, buts and cracks. 3271 02:32:33.639 --> 02:32:37.120 Uh labar what Lamar? 3272 02:32:37.799 --> 02:32:39.079 Lamar Lamar? 3273 02:32:39.159 --> 02:32:43.200 Who almost said Kyle Lamar? 3274 02:32:45.399 --> 02:32:50.159 Kendrick lamarck. 3275 02:32:50.680 --> 02:32:55.719 This I regret trying to defend him. Sorry, everybody you like. 3276 02:33:00.479 --> 02:33:09.840 Oh man, oh my god, I'm it's cute. It is 3277 02:33:09.959 --> 02:33:13.159 now my dream to make Mike Manati's description happen. 3278 02:33:13.840 --> 02:33:15.840 Yeah, I want this to be real. 3279 02:33:15.959 --> 02:33:16.319 It's good. 3280 02:33:16.799 --> 02:33:21.399 Yeah. God, remind us to when we do our our 3281 02:33:21.520 --> 02:33:24.719 catch up with the with the Jeff backlaw on voicemail 3282 02:33:24.760 --> 02:33:26.879 dump truck. We got to remind him of what is 3283 02:33:26.959 --> 02:33:30.920 the co worker. I don't get the coworkers, like if 3284 02:33:30.959 --> 02:33:33.040 you have a black friend and they think of their 3285 02:33:33.200 --> 02:33:35.040 the white co worker as just coworker. 3286 02:33:35.319 --> 02:33:37.079 I was wondering if there's more to it than that. Okay, 3287 02:33:37.120 --> 02:33:37.760 it's just that. 3288 02:33:38.040 --> 02:33:41.159 Yeah, okay, okay, No, he is coworker and I've gone 3289 02:33:41.200 --> 02:33:41.959 on with my life now. 3290 02:33:42.399 --> 02:33:42.520 Man. 3291 02:33:42.799 --> 02:33:47.479 Yeah, yeah, oh boy, thank you Jordan for for a 3292 02:33:47.559 --> 02:33:50.760 fantastic email. Oh god, thank god I wasn't lumped in 3293 02:33:50.799 --> 02:33:54.840 with the whites. I want to know where Lucy ranks 3294 02:33:54.879 --> 02:34:01.040 on this list. Frankly, Oh yeah, bumps it up right right? Yeah, 3295 02:34:01.399 --> 02:34:04.079 it's a different kind though, right, different kind. 3296 02:34:04.000 --> 02:34:07.879 Different more white than white. Yeah, it's weird. 3297 02:34:07.920 --> 02:34:08.879 I haven't been shot more. 3298 02:34:12.879 --> 02:34:20.280 Yeah all right, Uhanta white, Yes, thank you, signed Guy Bovesy. 3299 02:34:20.360 --> 02:34:21.079 That's what she waits. 3300 02:34:21.280 --> 02:34:22.159 Is there no white? 3301 02:34:22.639 --> 02:34:25.719 No, it's not no, it's like instead of vanta black, 3302 02:34:25.719 --> 02:34:27.959 which is like that black, the blackest black color that 3303 02:34:28.000 --> 02:34:30.000 they've ever created. Yeah, Fanta white. 3304 02:34:30.280 --> 02:34:32.399 Oh man. I like, I don't know if y'all ever 3305 02:34:32.479 --> 02:34:36.639 came across this on TikTok, but there was a hot 3306 02:34:36.760 --> 02:34:40.799 minute where uh, there were these before and after photos 3307 02:34:40.840 --> 02:34:43.319 of like before my black girlfriend or before my black wife, 3308 02:34:43.360 --> 02:34:45.559 and it was generally a glow up because a white 3309 02:34:45.600 --> 02:34:48.079 dude would just go from schlubby to having style and 3310 02:34:48.280 --> 02:34:50.319 god damn do I need to see there with Mike 3311 02:34:50.559 --> 02:34:57.479 naughty anyway? That wraps it up for emails, gents. When 3312 02:34:57.559 --> 02:35:00.440 we learned this week, I learned that one the mic, 3313 02:35:01.280 --> 02:35:04.239 one of the Minati brothers, stole from an establishment and 3314 02:35:04.360 --> 02:35:07.920 we are now harboring a criminal. We've learned to not 3315 02:35:08.440 --> 02:35:11.680 mess with or derail the gravy train. We're gonna We're 3316 02:35:11.760 --> 02:35:14.600 gonna be okay from now on double dipping. We've also 3317 02:35:14.719 --> 02:35:18.000 learned to not fall into the arquette hole. The floor 3318 02:35:18.360 --> 02:35:21.280 is worked, Ntenda can still be weird and that's okay. 3319 02:35:21.639 --> 02:35:23.920 We also learned that Mike is the best Mario player, 3320 02:35:24.200 --> 02:35:28.120 and we also learned about red wet and folks take 3321 02:35:28.120 --> 02:35:31.040 away from that which you will red wet, red wet everything, 3322 02:35:31.120 --> 02:35:35.319 red wet your chips, red wet your other dipping foods 3323 02:35:35.440 --> 02:35:39.079 of choice, folks, Folks. This week we got a game 3324 02:35:39.120 --> 02:35:42.079 Miss Morning's popping off for the rest of the week Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. 3325 02:35:44.200 --> 02:35:48.120 Check out Bowser's Hurry from last week. It was a 3326 02:35:48.239 --> 02:35:50.479 very fun time. We were raising money for the LA 3327 02:35:50.559 --> 02:35:53.200 wildfire relief. I don't know if that donation week is 3328 02:35:53.200 --> 02:35:56.040 still active, but hey shots, ats to y'all for watching 3329 02:35:56.079 --> 02:35:57.799 and hanging out with us. We were able to raise 3330 02:35:58.360 --> 02:36:04.239 sixty five hundred dollars and blast past our goal several times. Folks. 3331 02:36:04.280 --> 02:36:07.920 If you're looking for the conclusion of term dan Nator 3332 02:36:08.280 --> 02:36:11.639 record of the Machines, I got to edit some parts 3333 02:36:11.680 --> 02:36:14.760 out or else YouTube will continue clapping us. I uploaded 3334 02:36:14.760 --> 02:36:17.520 a version and YouTube still said it was not enough 3335 02:36:18.520 --> 02:36:19.639 because I left the audio in. 3336 02:36:20.280 --> 02:36:23.200 So someone did mentioned having Mike recreate those scenes, so 3337 02:36:23.360 --> 02:36:24.680 we can just have them do that for you and 3338 02:36:24.719 --> 02:36:28.120 you can splice those in, oh boy, and. 3339 02:36:28.200 --> 02:36:32.760 Then speaking about Blake Club tomorrow, Dan, you got a 3340 02:36:32.879 --> 02:36:33.360 new blight. 3341 02:36:33.920 --> 02:36:39.520 I'm holding Drake of the ninety nine Dragons game. I've 3342 02:36:39.559 --> 02:36:42.559 never played. I have never seen an action. I've heard 3343 02:36:42.600 --> 02:36:44.600 it's great, So I don't know why we picked it 3344 02:36:44.680 --> 02:36:47.680 for this or why Alex Navarro picked it, grub. 3345 02:36:48.040 --> 02:36:50.719 I got a wig in the mail, Is that all 3346 02:36:50.760 --> 02:36:51.040 I need? 3347 02:36:51.680 --> 02:36:51.719 No? 3348 02:36:51.959 --> 02:36:54.600 There should be like a leather duster coming as well. 3349 02:36:54.680 --> 02:36:57.719 Then you need to wear oh and a let's call 3350 02:36:57.760 --> 02:37:00.840 it a shirt. Yeah, I guess that's what it is, 3351 02:37:00.920 --> 02:37:03.120 a shirt, and then there should wear the leather pants 3352 02:37:03.159 --> 02:37:05.760 that you had for termin it term donator. 3353 02:37:05.920 --> 02:37:08.760 Okay, if they do not arrive today or tomorrow, should 3354 02:37:08.760 --> 02:37:10.040 I just do leather pants. 3355 02:37:09.799 --> 02:37:11.120 In the wig and get moving? 3356 02:37:11.200 --> 02:37:11.360 Yeah? 3357 02:37:11.479 --> 02:37:13.520 Okay, yeah, well keep what's holding up the mail? 3358 02:37:13.559 --> 02:37:13.680 There? 3359 02:37:13.719 --> 02:37:14.319 What's going on? 3360 02:37:14.559 --> 02:37:16.479 It should be like I ordered it right away all 3361 02:37:16.559 --> 02:37:18.680 the same time there today. 3362 02:37:19.920 --> 02:37:22.559 No matter what, we will start this tomorrow. I could 3363 02:37:22.559 --> 02:37:26.079 wear the terminator jacket needed. Uh so yeah, that is 3364 02:37:26.200 --> 02:37:29.239 starting tomorrow. And then once I'm done with this game, 3365 02:37:29.879 --> 02:37:33.879 I'm off Blake Club playing duties for a full go round. 3366 02:37:34.159 --> 02:37:35.760 I think we're doing the biking round right after that. 3367 02:37:35.840 --> 02:37:35.920 Right. 3368 02:37:39.479 --> 02:37:43.079 Also, stay tuned this week beat for BCR. We will 3369 02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:46.840 be doing twenty twenty five Fantasy Critic Draft with the 3370 02:37:46.920 --> 02:37:48.159 whole gang who won. 3371 02:37:48.280 --> 02:37:49.159 Twenty four. 3372 02:37:51.200 --> 02:37:52.399 Records were lost. There was a fire. 3373 02:37:52.520 --> 02:37:53.799 How did I know? Wait? 3374 02:37:54.040 --> 02:37:56.879 How was it that Mike won a one off stream 3375 02:37:57.239 --> 02:37:59.159 and got to give us all punishments? And I want 3376 02:37:59.239 --> 02:38:01.319 a year long battle and I got nothing? 3377 02:38:02.040 --> 02:38:04.879 Okay, you're not wrong. We definitely need to find something 3378 02:38:04.959 --> 02:38:06.159 that the winner should get. 3379 02:38:06.680 --> 02:38:07.159 It's just not. 3380 02:38:07.280 --> 02:38:11.000 Retroactively like a get out of jail free cart, no club. 3381 02:38:11.280 --> 02:38:12.479 It's just a dumb thing you said. 3382 02:38:13.120 --> 02:38:15.040 No, I mean for last year, like a retroactive like 3383 02:38:15.079 --> 02:38:18.280 I need. I need just Benmomi, are you gonna. 3384 02:38:20.159 --> 02:38:21.120 Gave up? But just money? 3385 02:38:22.559 --> 02:38:25.000 Uh? Also, Dan, I think you were the one that 3386 02:38:25.079 --> 02:38:26.760 decided we should give out punishments. 3387 02:38:26.959 --> 02:38:30.120 So yeah, and I stand by that, But I should 3388 02:38:30.120 --> 02:38:32.719 have won something. Oh Jeff, what are you playing Griffin Dango? 3389 02:38:33.360 --> 02:38:36.079 Yeah? I got it downloaded. I want to stream it. 3390 02:38:36.319 --> 02:38:38.559 I do, so I will have to find time to 3391 02:38:38.639 --> 02:38:40.600 do that. I'll probab. I'll probably try to start. 3392 02:38:40.440 --> 02:38:40.959 This week though. 3393 02:38:41.000 --> 02:38:41.680 That would be excellent. 3394 02:38:41.719 --> 02:38:48.440 Cool Okay, Well, yet, love folks should have lost it sounds. 3395 02:38:48.200 --> 02:38:52.840 Fun, folks. That does it for this week's BombCast. Despite 3396 02:38:52.840 --> 02:38:54.920 the state of the world being on fire, know that 3397 02:38:55.120 --> 02:38:58.639 we are here for you, trans writes, God damn it, 3398 02:38:59.399 --> 02:39:02.360 We'll see a week four another episode of the Giant bombcas. 3399 02:39:02.479 --> 02:39:04.639 I've been Jan, he's been Jeff, he's been Dad, he's 3400 02:39:04.680 --> 02:39:08.000 been biking. You at home, I've been doing Okay, go 3401 02:39:08.120 --> 02:39:12.159 drink some water, but go outside, Go learn a trade, perhaps, go. 3402 02:39:12.360 --> 02:39:17.760 Contribute to the world in a positive way. Punch someone 3403 02:39:17.840 --> 02:39:20.159 in the face that should be punched, not just cuz 3404 02:39:20.520 --> 02:39:20.840 all right. 3405 02:39:22.319 --> 02:39:23.399 Also, don't don't. 3406 02:39:23.239 --> 02:39:24.360 Report Chris Manatti. 3407 02:39:24.399 --> 02:39:25.520 He's a father. Goddamn it. 3408 02:39:25.760 --> 02:39:27.680 Yeah, leave him alive, leave him alone. 3409 02:39:27.719 --> 02:39:29.760 Fine, I was joking that did it happen? 3410 02:39:30.079 --> 02:39:31.440 Oh, there you go. He was joking. 3411 02:39:32.600 --> 02:39:36.559 Counselor, coworker, coworker,