WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:12.919 Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado. 2 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:18.000 Thirty years in Lorraine, fighting for truth, justice. 3 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:24.440 And the American Way. Dan chap Glass Hollow. 4 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:27.839 Everyone, it's Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan Kaplis today 5 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.920 and tomorrow tomorrow. We will have Congresswoman Lauren Bobert on 6 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:35.759 at the four thirty five break, So join us. We're 7 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:38.320 going to talk a lot about predictions for twenty twenty 8 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:40.880 five tomorrow. Just to give you a little taste, I 9 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:43.840 did a little Twitter poll, an ex poll, and Mark 10 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:47.159 Kaiser says his top predictions for next year. Polis and 11 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:50.359 Johnston are going to do well. I won't say the 12 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:53.280 word a criminal walk for not obeying federal law because 13 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.880 they've said they would do that. I guess pr bonds eliminated, 14 00:00:57.039 --> 00:01:02.079 catalytic converters stolen off all legislators, vehicles Denver and Boulders 15 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:05.120 secede from Colorado, and wolves are populated in Boulder, Jesse. 16 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:08.879 How realistic do you think? That? Is not very That 17 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:12.000 sounds good in theory, especially the wolves. I do think 18 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.040 they're coming closer to the Never Metro area. It's kind 19 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:18.400 of crazy, but I want to wrap up the conversation 20 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:21.079 with Bob, we talked a little bit about how you 21 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:25.280 can get involved in helping restore trust in our elections. 22 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:28.040 And one of the things that I didn't understand when 23 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:31.000 I first after the election of twenty two, when I 24 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.280 first got engaged in kind of doing this review and 25 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.719 analysis of what happened in that election, I didn't realize 26 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.480 how much power the county commissioners have. And sixty percent 27 00:01:40.599 --> 00:01:42.959 or so, I'm not sure if that number's like I 28 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.799 think it's in the ballpark, but a good majority of 29 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:50.599 county commissioners in Colorado are conservative, They're Republicans, and they 30 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:54.079 have a lot of power over what happens with the 31 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:57.680 county clerk, with the county attorney. They hire and fire 32 00:01:57.719 --> 00:01:59.959 the attorney, and the attorney gives a lot of advice 33 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:03.200 to the county clerk. And so I would hope that 34 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:06.000 we would have some commissioners that you all you all 35 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.039 know your commissioners, likely because this audience is pretty on 36 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:10.680 the ball as far as staying in touch with their 37 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.080 elected officials. Talk to your commissioners, ask them if they 38 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.199 can do a couple of things. One is to make 39 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.400 sure that their drop boxes, your drop boxes in the 40 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:21.879 county are high quality, they're pointed in the right direction, 41 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:25.199 and that someone's reviewing the footage even live stream them. 42 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:27.639 I kudos to Douglas County after we brought this up, 43 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:31.159 they decided to live stream their drop boxes and that 44 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:35.479 provides confidence and trust in our systems. The other thing 45 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:37.879 is ask them if there is remote Wi Fi access 46 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:41.479 in their voting systems, and not just capabilities, but does 47 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:43.759 it connect, Why does it connect? When does it connect? 48 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.639 And if there are capabilities, why can't they just remove them? 49 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:48.800 They can. Don't let them tell you they can't. They 50 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.879 can remove them. They can remove the little cards, the 51 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:54.879 things that make the Wi Fi go. I'm not a techie, 52 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:56.800 but it's going to take some pressure from all of you, 53 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.280 especially in those twelve counties where they've admit it that 54 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.919 they have that. The last thing is ask the county 55 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:05.280 commissioners to ask the county clerk and work with the 56 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:07.800 county attorney to make sure that the local post office, 57 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:11.120 the US Post Office in that county is providing very 58 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:16.000 detailed invoices and tracking of the undeliverable ballots that are 59 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.039 being returned to them, that they are returning to the 60 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:21.199 clerk's office there's no reason that shouldn't be detailed out. 61 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.719 We should know exactly how many ballots are returned undeliverable 62 00:03:25.159 --> 00:03:30.240 and are not lost in the Netherlands. And then finally 63 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.800 ask them if they would be willing to bring in 64 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:37.840 an outside auditorist specialist to look at the signature verification process, 65 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:40.560 the voter roles in the county, make sure that there 66 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:45.400 aren't illegal or non citizens on the voter rolls, or 67 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:47.960 that folks that should have been taken off the voter 68 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:51.080 rolls are off. That's been a problem in the past, 69 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.960 and obviously the Secretary of State said that's not okay. 70 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.199 You can't do that. You can't audit anything. Basically, I'm 71 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:03.080 exaggerating a little bit hopeful, but I would suggest somebody 72 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.000 needs to take her on on that front and bring 73 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.680 in an outside auditor, try and do some looks at 74 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:11.759 the process, make sure everything's okay, and then be willing 75 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:14.560 to go to court with her if you need to. So, 76 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.120 I think you've got a lot of citizens across Colorado 77 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:18.800 that would back you up if you're a county clerk 78 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:20.720 or a county commissioner who wants to take that on. 79 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.399 I've tried talking to our Douglas County commissioners about these 80 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.839 issues and the clerk and haven't been able to since 81 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:29.879 we did this audit, they haven't been willing to sit 82 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:31.720 down and talk about it. And that's where I live. 83 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:35.639 It's really really unfortunate, especially since I was a candidate 84 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.240 for a statewide office and that was the election I 85 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:41.600 wanted to talk about. But you, as a citizen have 86 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.360 a lot of power, and you have a lot of 87 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:47.600 influence over your county commissioners, who have influence over the 88 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:50.480 County attorney and the County of Clerk. They're all elected, 89 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:52.759 and you've got to speak up, and you've got to 90 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:56.839 ask them to hold Secretary of State accountable, Like why 91 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.040 aren't they more upset? Why aren't a county clerks and 92 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:02.399 county commissioners more upset about the bios password lak. She's 93 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:06.560 basically getting off with no consequences when Tina Peters is 94 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:10.439 sitting in jail for pretty much the same thing. That's 95 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:13.319 not okay. But it takes all of us to speak 96 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:16.399 up about it. We've got to speak up. We've got 97 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:19.040 to use our bully pulpits when we have them. If 98 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:20.959 you have a Twitter account, if you have a Facebook 99 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:24.279 group speak up about this. We've got some time now 100 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.879 before the next election this fall. There's some very very 101 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.120 critical school board elections coming up, and so I want 102 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.519 to talk a little bit about how you engage engage 103 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:34.680 on that front too. But to wrap this part up, 104 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:37.120 it's going to take all of you. You can't sit 105 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:38.920 around and wait for someone to come in and fix 106 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:41.199 everything on the election front. It's going to take for 107 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:45.839 each of you to get involved. And Colorado Elections at 108 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.319 Colorado Institute for Fair Elections is doing a really good 109 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:50.920 job and they're activating volunteers if you want to get involved. 110 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.759 They actually helped put up a dropbox citizen observer program 111 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:59.160 in this last election. I helped with it too, and 112 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:03.399 we got volunteers all across Colorado to actually observe dropboxes 113 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:06.720 because the government wasn't doing its job and making sure 114 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:08.839 that they were secure. So we did it for them. 115 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.720 And it was quite a battle to get that through 116 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.959 and kind of okayed by the Secretary of State's office. 117 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.120 They weren't happy about it, but that's our First Amendment 118 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:20.560 right as citizens. And so there's lots of things you 119 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:22.800 can do to get engaged. You can also be an 120 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:27.000 election judge a pole watcher. You've got time to train 121 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.519 and to learn and to get involved on that front. 122 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:33.160 And this election coming up on the school boards and 123 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.560 city council races is going to be really important in Colorado. 124 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:37.879 But it'll tee you up. Hopefully, we have a big 125 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.959 army of educated volunteers who are going to be activated 126 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:43.040 in the midterms in twenty six because that's going to 127 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.480 be all at war. The Democrats are not going to 128 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:51.560 take this last, you know, without fighting back. So that's 129 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.759 going to happen in twenty six. So what can you do. 130 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:58.079 You can get involved with Colorado Institute for Fair Elections 131 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.839 CEO fair Elections dot org. You can also become a 132 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:03.519 leader in your own neighborhood. You know a lot of 133 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.519 people on x are saying to me, like, who's going 134 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:09.199 to take the lead of the GOP in Colorado. Who's gonna, 135 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:14.439 you know, basically manage the comeback? And it's actually you. 136 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:16.720 You've got to do that in your own neighborhood. All 137 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:21.040 politics are local and there's nothing stopping you from creating 138 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:23.560 a list of your like minded neighbors, hosting an event, 139 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.600 getting things started. You can work with your precinct chair 140 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.600 even if you're not a Republican, a registered Republican, reach 141 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:31.879 out to your county GOP, tell them you want to 142 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:34.920 help out, you want to get involved, and there's lists 143 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:36.720 that you can get of people and how they vote 144 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.839 in your Neighborhood's kind of creepy, but they're available, and 145 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:42.319 you can invite people to a barbecue, invite people to 146 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:47.199 the local classroom, invite people to the library to meet up. 147 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.279 And then also you need to attend all your local meetings. 148 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.040 You need to go to your school board meetings, your 149 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:57.639 city council meetings, your county commissioner meetings. They're put online. 150 00:07:57.680 --> 00:07:59.319 Also you can watch online, but I really want you 151 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.959 to go live so you can experience it. You can testify. 152 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.839 My older daughter actually testified for the first time at 153 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.040 a Douglas County school board meeting a few weeks ago, 154 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:09.680 and it was very empowering. And she's heard a lot 155 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.040 of things on the campaign and helping me in politics, 156 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.639 but actually doing it and engaging and being a voice 157 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:18.120 for what you believe in makes a difference. It makes 158 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.439 a difference in how you pay attention to things. And 159 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:24.000 then finally, we've got a great community on X. If 160 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.480 you go to my profile. Right below it, it says 161 00:08:26.680 --> 00:08:29.759 Colorado's Road Back to Red. We've got about sixteen hundred 162 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.720 people in that ex community and every day we're talking 163 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:35.440 about what you can do to turn Colorado around. We 164 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.840 call it our fight Back in five fight back in 165 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.399 five minutes, something that takes five minutes every day that 166 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:42.799 you can do to turn Colorado around as a citizen. 167 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:45.120 And you don't have to be a Republican, you don't 168 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:47.840 have to be even conservative. You can just be a 169 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:50.000 citizen who cares about Colorado and wants to make a 170 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.480 difference and have a voice. You have to join the group, 171 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.000 so you have to request and then we'll add you 172 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:58.240 in and we'll get you off on your way and 173 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:02.200 doing your fight backs in five every day. So in 174 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.399 a little bit we're going to have Heather booth On, 175 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.559 who's a school board member in Albert County. There's some 176 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.639 really interesting developments going on there with some books in 177 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:16.799 the district and a lawsuit that's been filed by the ACLU. 178 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:21.039 We'll talk more about that, but I'm calling twenty twenty 179 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:24.000 five the year of the school Board for Colorado. There 180 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.919 are some critical races around the state. We're going to 181 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.440 teach you how to get engaged, how to make a difference. 182 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:32.799 We're going to practice for the midterms, and we're going 183 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:35.440 to take back our state, one neighborhood at a time, 184 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.120 and you are the leader of your neighborhood. You're going 185 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.000 to make a list of all your like minded friends. 186 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.279 You're going to host events. You're going to do this 187 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.559 with some friends so you're not alone. You're going to 188 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:49.000 attend city council meetings, county commissioner meetings, school board meetings. 189 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:52.399 Get to know who your elected officials are, your state representatives, 190 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:55.360 your state senators, and you're going to get in touch 191 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:57.480 with the precinct chair, which is the neighborhood kind of 192 00:09:57.559 --> 00:10:01.559 captain for the Republican Party. If you're a registered Republican, 193 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.840 if you're unaffiliated, you should still do that. And also 194 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:09.279 if you're a libertarian. The Libertarians and the conservative movement 195 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.840 and the Republicans are working very well together right now, 196 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:17.720 and we'd love to have more opportunities to join forces 197 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:21.480 and defeat the progressive agenda of Colorado that's destroying our state. 198 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:24.960 So if you're not already on X, take the leap. 199 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.519 It's the new way to get news it's the only 200 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:29.840 way to get news now. The legacy media is dying. 201 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.279 And join our community Colorado's road back to Red. You 202 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:36.080 just go to my my profile and you sign up 203 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:39.759 and we'll let you in and then we'll be on 204 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:41.559 our way and we're going to build our army of 205 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.919 freedom loving Colorado's to take back our state. I think 206 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:47.720 it's about time to take a break. Jesse. This is 207 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:52.000 Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caples. We'll be right back. Hello, 208 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:55.000 this is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis on 209 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:56.120 this New Year's Eve. 210 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:56.679 Eve. 211 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.240 I'll be in tomorrow as well with my special guess, 212 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:03.639 Congresswoman Lauren Bobert at four thirty five, but join us 213 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.200 for the whole time four to six tomorrow. We've got 214 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.720 a special guest coming up in just a few minutes, 215 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:12.399 Heather Booth, who's on the Elbert County School Board. But 216 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:14.519 before that, I wanted to kind of wrap up the 217 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.600 conversation about how you can get engaged and involved in 218 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.559 what you can do as a citizen. And in Colorado, 219 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:24.360 we have a process that allows citizens to put forward 220 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.360 ballot initiatives and you need a certain percentage of the 221 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:30.639 vote depending on if it's a change to the Constitution 222 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.480 or not. But there's been a lot of talk about 223 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:38.080 ballot initiatives for twenty twenty five, twenty six and beyond 224 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:41.840 about election integrity, and earlier we talked to Bob Cooper 225 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.679 about some of the problems we're facing. And obviously Donald Trump, 226 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.399 President Trump is looking to do some things on a 227 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:51.240 federal level. I believe he's talked about making election Day 228 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:57.759 a holiday and requiring photo ID and paper ballots. But 229 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.879 what does that mean for Colorado? What else do we 230 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.960 need to have happened in Colorado for voters to trust 231 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:08.000 our process and trust that their vote matters. Well, We've 232 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:12.080 been collecting some information Colorado Institute for Election Integrity and 233 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.039 I've been working together to kind of put together a 234 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:17.360 list of potential things we could run a ballot initiative on. 235 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:19.759 And here's some of the things that people think are 236 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:22.799 really important. Number one is require a photo ID to 237 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.840 register to vote and with the mail in ballots. I mean, 238 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:28.440 I'm not sure what that would look like if you 239 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:31.000 need to send in a copy of your picture, or 240 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.320 if when you go into register you've got to you've 241 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:35.960 got to bring your ID and making sure, it's a 242 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:39.559 government issued ID, not like a student ID or a 243 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:43.960 workout club ID whatever, But that's really important to voters. 244 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.639 Another one is requiring proof of citizenship, not a self 245 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.799 affirmation to register to vote. So like the DMV right now, 246 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:55.000 when folks who aren't citizens go in, they have to 247 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:57.840 kind of say to on the form, I am not 248 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.600 a citizen, like they have to actually claim that instead 249 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:02.440 of the other way around, like are you a citizen? 250 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.159 So we need folks to require we need our elected 251 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:12.360 officials to require proof of citizenship. And that's really that 252 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:16.279 goes towards the DMV. It goes to the election offices. 253 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.840 The clerks kind of say it's the Secretary of State. 254 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.559 The Secretary of State says it's other folks. They blame 255 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:24.399 it on the FEDS. It's like this circular firing squad 256 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:27.120 around that issue. So we've got to figure that out. 257 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:31.480 The other thing is banning automatic voter registration at the DMV. 258 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.000 So instead of everybody getting registered, is an unaffiliated that 259 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:39.799 registered or gets a driver's license or an ID, require 260 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:43.399 the voter to request a ballot for a legitimate reason. 261 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:47.799 So if if you want a mail in ballot, if 262 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.600 you want to get your ballot that way, request it 263 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.279 like we used to with absentee ballots. A lot of 264 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:57.080 folks enjoy going to vote in person, My husband does, 265 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.440 and going on election Day, and I think that's why 266 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:02.600 make election Day a holiday would actually be really popular. 267 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:06.159 In fact, a twenty twenty PU Research Center survey found 268 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:10.279 that seventy one percent of Americans favor making election Day 269 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:12.559 a national holiday. Now, they just may want a day off, 270 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:17.679 but I believe that that would actually really go far 271 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:20.080 in helping people trust their vote again if they could 272 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:22.399 do in person voting and you had to request a 273 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:24.840 mail in ballot. If we were going to stick with those, 274 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:30.600 some other things, maybe some ballot security measures, serializing ballots 275 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:34.759 or using anti counterfeit tracking methods like RFID chips or 276 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.919 embedded technology that would allow the ballot to be tracked 277 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:41.000 the entire time. That would deal with the US post 278 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:44.200 Office issue that Bob was talking about early, where the 279 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:47.639 post Office is supposed to invoice the county clerk for 280 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.879 all the undeliverable ballots they get back, so after the 281 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:52.840 ballots are sent out, they get a bunch back that 282 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.279 are either going to the wrong address or something was 283 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:58.840 wrong and right now they're supposed to invoice the county 284 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:02.240 clerks for those ballots, and it seems like a lot 285 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:04.919 are getting lost in the shuffle. In fact, in Bob's 286 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:08.559 analysis of nine counties, there were over thirty thousand that 287 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:12.200 were just not accounted for. That's not okay. That doesn't 288 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:15.519 go very far to ensuring trust in our system, in 289 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:20.879 our gold standard system. Also, I think voters would look 290 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.960 favorably and our kind of informal survey says this unlimiting 291 00:15:25.120 --> 00:15:30.000 dropbox ballot returns to just election locations, not everywhere known 292 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.279 to mankind. We have our four hundred drop boxes across 293 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:36.440 Colorado right now, and only during staffed hours, so not overnight, 294 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:39.919 because it seems like if someone was going to try 295 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:42.159 and pul shenanigans, which it is the law, you can 296 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:46.399 only turn in, only only turn in ten ballots the 297 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.840 whole election, you know, that would be a deterrent. So 298 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:54.879 the drop boxes would be only at election offices and 299 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:58.919 only be only open during staffed hours. That would still 300 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:01.399 give people a lot of flexibility and ease and turning 301 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.559 in their ballot. Now, I don't think this one would fly. 302 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:06.279 I don't think Coloradins are going to go here, but 303 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.960 you could ban mail in balloting and just limit it 304 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:13.480 to absentee balloting with strict guidelines for getting absentee status. 305 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.720 I don't think that one would get put through, but 306 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:18.080 let me know what you think. If you want to 307 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.679 call in or text call in is three ozho three 308 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.240 seven one three eight two five five seven one three 309 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.200 eight two five five, or you can text dan to 310 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:30.480 five seven seven three nine. Some other ideas banning all 311 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:34.879 electronic elections equipment and sophomore software and returning to in person, 312 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.759 hand voted and hand counted paper ballots at the precinct level. 313 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:41.039 A lot of folks are like, that can happen, it 314 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:44.679 takes too long. Well, it can happen. It does happen 315 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:48.120 in other places, it used to happen here, and I 316 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.360 would suggest that that might go far in restoring trust, 317 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:56.000 whether we like it or not, a lot of people 318 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:59.679 don't trust the technology around our elections. And then finally 319 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.039 banning ranked choice voting in any form at any level 320 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:05.480 in Colorado. That is going to come back. That was 321 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:08.240 just a little dip in the toe in the sand 322 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:11.440 with this. Try to get ranked choice voting in Colorado. 323 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:14.200 I absolutely think they're going to bring that ballot measure back, 324 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:17.599 and they've got a lot of financial resources behind them. 325 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:22.000 They're trying to do this across the country, and I 326 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:25.400 think it's wrong for the people of Colorado. It's very confusing. 327 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:28.000 We've talked a lot about that on this show and 328 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:32.079 on Rocky Mountain Voice. But I truly believe we've got 329 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.440 to do everything we can to restore trust in our 330 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:38.599 election processes again, and I think President Trump's on board 331 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:42.480 with that. I think we in Colorado, my goodness, we 332 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:46.799 have a lot to deal with with Jenna Griswold's mishandling 333 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:51.640 of the BIOS passwords and lack of kind of discipline 334 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:54.720 around the signature verification process, and what happened in Mason 335 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:57.720 County and the drop box issues. We've seen the US 336 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:01.240 Post Office audits that Bob talked about, the voter role issues. 337 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:06.680 The Public Legal Interest Foundation sued Jenni Griswold to get 338 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.240 the list of dead voters that are on the voter rolls, 339 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:12.160 and that was due on November first, right before the election. 340 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:14.799 I called the Secretary of State's office right after that 341 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:16.440 and said, can I get that list too? It should 342 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:19.279 be public information. They said no, so I'm working with 343 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:22.359 PILF Public Legal Interest Foundation. Hopefully I got that at 344 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.480 Public Interest Legal Foundation to try and get that list, 345 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:28.200 but that should be available to the public. Why is 346 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:32.559 she hiding it? Typical Jennick Griswold just doesn't do anything 347 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.240 to restore the trust of voters. And then we're also 348 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.640 trying to work with the DMV to find out more 349 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:41.920 about their process for preventing non citizens from being able 350 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.599 to vote, and whether that's a d MV issue or 351 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:47.480 a Secretary of State issue, or a county clerk issue. 352 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.559 We're not really clear on that yet. So there's some 353 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:55.000 ideas for ballot initiatives. I'm not quite sure I have 354 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:57.839 the time or energy to put together something like that, 355 00:18:57.880 --> 00:19:00.480 but there's some great people across Colorado that can and 356 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:02.359 we can do some poll testing and see what people 357 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:05.960 are really interested in doing out of those choices. And 358 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.200 we can also talk to our county commissioners and our 359 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:13.119 county clerk about making sure that some of these problems 360 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:15.519 don't exist, and if they do, fixing them and have 361 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:17.440 their back, like if they're willing to go out on 362 00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:21.000 a limb and push against the Secretary of State, then 363 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.160 have their back and speak highly of them in the 364 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:25.559 public and talk about how proud you are that they're 365 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:29.640 standing up against Johnny Griswold and her lack of transparency 366 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.319 and her lack of accountability on the bios passwords, while 367 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.400 Tina Peters, the previous Mesa County clerk, sits in prison 368 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:41.319 for doing something similar for a long long time. All right, 369 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.759 Next up, we're going to talk about predictions in the 370 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:47.200 last little part of the show. But first we're going 371 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:50.759 to talk to Heather Booth on the Elbert County School 372 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:54.160 Board and she has some interesting things to say about 373 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:57.039 a new lawsuit by the ACLU about some books that 374 00:19:57.079 --> 00:19:59.759 were taken out of the library there. But what are 375 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:02.400 your I want you to think about it before tomorrow's 376 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:04.640 show and then you can text in, you can pop 377 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.759 me a message on Twitter, you can call in. Tomorrow 378 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:10.079 we'll have Congresswoman Bobert. We're going to ask her what 379 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.880 her twenty twenty five predictions are. You know, I think 380 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:14.559 it's going to be a great year. I think a 381 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:16.279 lot of good things are going to happen. Things are 382 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:19.359 going to turn around. I like the idea of Doge 383 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:22.880 going in and cleaning house on the bureaucracies and making 384 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:25.880 sure that every penny is accounted for, our precious tax 385 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.640 dollars are accounted for and spent well. And also that 386 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:33.480 we put together a strong border and we remove violent 387 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:37.960 criminals from Colorado from America and hopefully make America safe again, 388 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:41.720 because that's a huge issue and one that all Americans, 389 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.279 most Americans, majority of Americans agree on. This is Heidi 390 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:47.839 Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis. We'll be right back 391 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:51.920 after the break. Hello. Everyone, it's Heidi Ganal filling in 392 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:56.799 for Dan Caplis. This afternoon, I'm honored to have Heather Booth, 393 00:20:56.920 --> 00:20:59.559 my friend who's also on the Albert County school Board, 394 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:04.240 live with us to talk about an interesting issue about 395 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:08.680 books and the ACLU is not happy with you guys. Heather, 396 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:09.640 how you doing today? 397 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.039 Good, Hidie, Thanks for having me on. 398 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.599 Of course, you know, I got I got several emails 399 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:19.720 about this actually yesterday, and then you and I texted 400 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:21.920 back and forth a little bit about it. But this 401 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:24.039